Telos x Boid: Powering the Change with Boid 🎙️

Recorded: Jan. 25, 2024 Duration: 0:42:15

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Hey, everyone. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you're from.
We'll be starting the AMA soon, but quickly, can we just do a quick mic check from Seth and John?
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Hello, this is John.
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Perfect, perfect, guys. All right, we'll give us a couple minutes, wait for folks to filter in, then we can start.
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All right, so I believe we can kick it off.
Thank you, everyone, for tuning in to another edition of TELOS AMA today.
Just a quick recap, guys.
We recently dropped our town hall number three as of yesterday.
This covers the marketing strategy for the year for the TELOS Foundation and really the TELOS Core developers as well.
Within that town hall, we highlighted a number of different updates regarding our four products swim lanes for the year,
those being zero-knowledge proofs via our scalable proof protocol.
The white paper is currently under review and will be dropping very shortly.
We highlighted our TELOS zero and TELOS EVM, where there are continual updates being added.
The team is working hard diligently to improve the network every single day.
One of those includes the upcoming upgrades for OFT standards on TELOS.
We also released a quick update around K2-18, our ZK EVM gaming sidechain,
through which also the white paper will be releasing very shortly and is currently under review.
And finally, TIKIKA, which will be going through its go-to-market strategy.
Really, in the next couple of weeks, things are really ramping up at TELOS.
We're moving in the right direction, and there's new developments every single day, so thank you guys for joining.
And today, we have actually a very special guest, two very special guests joining us today.
And I think it's important for people to realize and to understand that
Seth and John from the Boyd team have actually been involved with the TELOS ecosystem for quite some time.
They've been a block producer since 2020 and have been really heavily involved in the development of the Antelope IO ecosystem for a number of different years.
So with that being said, I would love to introduce officially to the TELOS AMA, John and Seth from Boyd.
Guys, welcome. Could you guys please give an introduction to yourselves, you know, where you come from, your past, and what's brought you here today?
Thanks, Peter. Yeah, it's great to join. Yeah, so my background, I used to work in the video games industry.
That was my career for a while, for about seven years. And then around 2016, I made the switch to the blockchain and never really looked back.
And I've been, I've had a few companies and I've done a lot of work for other projects in the blockchain space.
And in 2017 or 2018, when EOS launched, I was one of the first adopters of that platform and building on that and learning that technology, which we now call Antelope.
And TELOS was always the, you know, really interesting, innovative kind of community fork of EOS that I really liked.
And we participate on TELOS as a block producer, but maybe a lot of people don't know is that in the early days of the Boyd platform running on EOS, the TELOS team on Boyd was actually the most popular team and the most active team.
And that really showed that the TELOS community always liked the idea of Boyd and the TELOS community was always open to supporting projects that might weren't necessarily built on their on their chain, you know.
So yeah, we always, so we always noticed that the TELOS team was a big part of Boyd and we always wanted to expand Boyd out to a better ecosystem.
And I think that we made the right decision. So what we have today is for the past two years, we've been working on a complete rebuild of the Boyd platform.
And we have just been testing it on the TELOS testnet and now we're launching, we have launched on the TELOS mainnet. We call it kind of a soft launch.
But yeah, I'll let Seth give his intro.
Hi guys, I didn't really have anything prepared.
So last four and a half years on Antelope chains, last 20 years in IT.
Most of my IT work was actually connected to taxi dispatch systems in UK.
And yeah, so I've been, I've been working on Antelope for a while now and I love the ecosystem and I love TELOS, what it represents.
And I always thought it was the, the chain to be on. So, so yeah, that's my short introduction.
Perfect. Amazing guys. And you guys are really kind of OGs within the Antelope IO ecosystem, within the TELOS ecosystem.
Pretty much we talked to any of the, you know, kind of original community members. They will know you guys. You guys have just been, you know, around and supporting the entire ecosystem.
And it's great to, great to see. It's great to see you guys finally coming over to TELOS via mainnet.
So with that being said, you guys released an article, I believe about a couple of days ago.
And within this article, you guys kind of highlighted your goals, your plans on deploying boy 2.0 on TELOS, TELOS zero, TELOS mainnet, essentially.
And part of this, part of this move included, you know, kind of moving away from EOS.
So you guys kind of mentioned the community support that you have received on TELOS and it's true. At TELOS, we love our devs.
We love, you know, unique projects that are built in and we're always trying to support that.
So in your, in your perspective, beyond the community aspects of deploying a project on TELOS, what are some other benefits that you have seen?
And this could be technical, it could be, you know, the actual network itself, but what benefits have you guys seen beyond the community aspect of deploying on TELOS?
For me, it's always been that a few things, I would say that the governance is a bit more explicit, whereas on EOS, it's very laissez-faire, just kind of like, it's basically a peer free market, whereas TELOS, it's much more reasonable, much more realistic.
Talk of governance that people actually expect, you know, people actually expect there to be, you know, a proper framework in place and like the BPs have to actually run infrastructure and things like that.
So that's something that I really appreciate is that a lot of the, in a lot of the governance improvements that TELOS has made, EOS has also adopted years later and it's, so I've always seen them as kind of the innovators in that regard.
And from a technical perspective, we really like that, you know, you have fast block times, you have inexpensive resource costs.
The staking model makes things a lot easier for developers and for users than the, it's easier than the power-up model on EOS, to be honest.
And so yeah, it's fast, it's cheap, it's got good governance, it's very powerful for us to build on the smart contracts and everything.
I mean, we actually write our smart contracts in TypeScript now, which is, I prefer that over Solidity or C++, so that's nice.
What do you think, Seth?
Yeah, so for me with the governance, like it was very important to see that exchanges cannot vote for themselves, which is a huge problem with BP voting on EOS.
And also it was very interesting to see that TELOS was the one to release EDM first from all the Antelope chains.
So he always, like, I always felt that TELOS was the one who would like to experiment and take risks and I think it's paying off more and more now, so yeah.
Yeah, you mentioned a really interesting thing, right, kind of the benefits of governance on TELOS.
And I would say you don't have to witness a few worker proposals and a few network update requests that have had to gone through a governance vote that people at TELOS, particularly the community, really care.
We're kind of, what day is it, 25th? We're going through another round of Guardian elections where the community essentially votes who is going to be the next TELOS Guardian, as this is a rotating role that gets renewed, I believe, 12 or 18 months.
But the community shows up, right? The community shows up, the community loves seeing those that are involved.
And you mentioned the implicit, you know, impact of governance on certain projects and why it's a leading USP and just another date, actually.
So right now governance mainly exists on TELOS Zero, our mainnet, right, consensus layer.
But however, this year, I believe around Q3, we will be adding support on EVM for governance voting as well.
And not just for governance voting, but for validator voting as well.
So we're expanding these voting permissions on EVM, which is something that a lot of people have actually requested in the past.
So it's really exciting to see that, you know, the governance mechanism, the governance control on TELOS mainnet is being widely used.
And now we're expanding that as well into EVM to make sure that it's fully inclusive of all TELOS holders, whether you're at mainnet or EVM.
So with that being said, I would actually love to get into the actual Boyd platform itself.
So for those that are just kind of tuning in, can you guys explain what Boyd is and how we can kind of utilize it now that it's on mainnet?
Sure, to summarize Boyd, I would say it is a way for individuals to contribute their unused or excess computing resources towards important projects like scientific research, disease and weather, climate science,
and to do so in a fun and rewarding way.
So we do that through a few different methods.
The platform makes it easy for you to contribute your resources.
We have a Boyd application that you can install.
The application is being rebuilt right now, but we have instructions for how to do it yourself.
And you run the application on any computer.
It contributes computing power to this distributed network for scientific research.
And you earn Boyd Power.
Boyd Power then enables you to mint Boyd tokens and participate in our future projects called the Boydverse, which is like a gaming ecosystem where your Boyd Power can be used as a resource.
And we use kind of like social mechanics and gamification to make it engaging for people.
So like you're on a team, you're on a leaderboard, you're competing against other users, you're competing against other teams.
We would have these seasons where we would have like 10 different teams and we would have the teams competing over the course of the season.
And then at the end of the season, the top few teams would earn prizes.
But also inside each team, the team leaders would hand out prizes to the top contributors in that individual team.
So we're always thinking about how to make things like fun and engaging on that regard.
And a lot of most of our users, I did a survey, it was like 70% of our users had never participated in distributed computing prior to Boyd.
So that showed that Boyd was able to kind of crack a new market, kind of open up kind of like a nerdy niche concept into a new market potentially.
So that's what makes Boyd interesting, I think.
Perfect. Anything to add on your side there, Seth?
Yeah, so there's going to be a new game that we're going to be testing, which will use the Boyd power.
So to be able to actually play the game, you will have to be one of the active users.
So if you're not going to be giving your spare computing power for the scientific research, you won't be able to play the game in a way.
And then inside the game, it's actually going to be a turn-based game where you will be able to find rewards and play against other Boyd teams.
And yeah, we'll see how it goes, but we will need many people to actually test the game, find bugs, and get us some new ideas, things like that.
Got it. Yeah, that sounds really cool.
I think the delegation of resources, particularly on DPOS networks, is something that we're going to be seeing a lot more as these networks start competing for block space and things like that.
So it's really cool that you guys have kind of streamlined this particular delegation of resources within your platform.
Sounds really cool. I do have a question.
So you guys highlighted this Boyd's 2.0 rewards program, right?
And I think, you know, Seth, when you and I were talking, one of the really cool features that you mentioned is that everything is on chain, right?
Everything is on chain with other reliance of a central server.
However, users can also log in and perform all actions without needing a crypto wallet.
So can you guys explain how those two different operations interact with each other and allow that type of experience?
Yeah, this is actually kind of the core innovation that I'm most proud about with the new setup.
The way that it works, think about like when you log into your exchange.
Most exchanges, you can log in with your email password and do many tasks.
But then when you need to do some kind of a financial transaction, like you need to withdraw funds, they require a two-factor authentication.
So it's like some additional security, some additional friction for those financial transactions.
So this is exactly how we've structured the new Boyd system.
We have the concept of an account key that's attached to your Boyd account.
So your Boyd account exists in the smart contract on chain, and it has a key associated with it.
Using that key, you can log in on a webpage.
You don't need a browser or you don't need a wallet or anything like that.
You just log in with your email and password.
The key is generated dynamically in the browser from your email and password.
And then that key is used to sign all your transactions that you need to do in the web browser.
And like 90% of what you need to do, you can do it casually, and you wouldn't even know that everything is running on the blockchain
because the transactions are being relayed by a worker node, essentially, that's taking that signed message that you signed in the web browser
and it's putting it inside a proper blockchain transaction and posting that transaction to the chain.
So this is how we make it super simple for anyone to log in and use the platform without understanding crypto.
Now, we also have the ability for you to link a chain account.
So this is a traditional Telos zero, Telos native chain account.
And when you link that, that becomes your two factor.
So when you need to withdraw funds out of your void account, you need to log in with your wallet and sign the transaction yourself
using your owner account, essentially, on chain.
So this is kind of the user experience security trade-off that I'm pretty happy with.
And I think especially for applications that are not like swaps, that are games or social applications,
I think it's important to have the different tiers of authentication and security.
Yeah, that sounds great.
That sounds like a great use case where you kind of just bypass all these long strings of character that you need for addresses
and authentication and things like that.
So that sounds great.
So moving on, you guys mentioned Boydverse as one of the products really within the Boyd ecosystem
and you kind of mentioned kind of this gamified experience.
Could you guys talk a little bit more about that?
I'll let Seth handle that one.
Yeah, so with the Boydverse, we kind of like doing baby steps.
We introduced the initial concept like two years ago and we created some stories,
made a draft of the Boydverse lore.
So we have like first characters and first NFTs also actually minted on Telos mainnet native
that users can go to the portal and mint those NFTs themselves by purchasing them with Boyd tokens
which they're actually burned afterwards.
Like we did, we're introducing many more burning mechanisms to the token because of the Boydverse.
So like the thing with NFTs, there's going to be more to come.
But in general, now regarding the Boydverse, we'll be introducing more things like minigames.
So the Boydvoid game, the one strategic game on hex fields will be the first one.
But we're also thinking about another minigame that will be using our BoydAvatars.
So the BoydAvatars are actually available now on EOS blockchain,
but we will be porting that to the Telos mainnet.
So yeah, so like in general, my idea, like my dream would be to have Boydverse expanded with community help,
like writing stories and like giving us more ideas for the art and making it like bigger and bigger
and also like getting more ideas for potential like minigames to create connected to it.
And also like in the future, we do have a concept of Boyd colonies which will be connected to the original Boyd teams
where each team will have its own colony.
And we have quite a few ideas about that, but that part is not like finalized.
So like whoever joins Boyd can be part of the whole like creation process in a way. So yeah.
Got it. It's quite an inclusive ecosystem that you guys are building.
So Boydverse is kind of the gamified, we can even call it a metaverse experience within the Boyd platform.
Within Boydverse, you have a couple of different minigames such as BoydVoid and the upcoming Boyd colony.
And on top of that, you have NFTs that are on Telos mainnet, Telos zero.
And you have this really amazing avatar builder dashboard, which Seth were going through the other day.
And it's quite unique. I don't think I've actually have seen something like this before.
If you guys go to avatar.boyd.com, you can see exactly what I'm talking about.
So could you talk a little bit about this avatar dashboard through which you can kind of customize your own unique avatar, Seth?
Yeah. So there's actually when you go to the site, there is like an explainer video that everyone can watch.
And like you go through the process there. So normally you would buy one of the packs or more than one pack and open the packs.
So everything is happening on chain. All of the NFTs are actually deployed on atomic assets, smart contracts.
And you can trade them on Atomic Hub.
When you go to the designer, like you can choose between the top of the avatar, the eyes, head, mouth, torso, big wings, small wings and legs.
And you have a list of all of the available parts.
You can see the ones which you have in your wallet and you can also see if there's one which you really, really like.
You can try to see if you can actually buy it on the open market.
And then when you're happy with your design, you can mint a template for which you have to pay some boy tokens.
You name the template and then you can mint your first NFT from that template or you don't have to.
And then like whoever mints an NFT from the portal, like from your template, you will get a cut of the profits.
And each time, so also all the templates, all the stuff on the point of order portal, everything is purchased by the boy token.
So that's another thing, which is that every time someone gets a template, mints an NFT and so on, that is the burning mechanism for the boy token.
So that's that's quite important.
And also all the the idea is that each user in the boy ecosystem would be using that avatar as like their avatar on the on the platform.
So, yeah.
Got it. So these avatars can actually be utilized in game.
Yes. So the so so that's like an avatar on the platform in a way like like a cosmetic thing.
But also, as I was saying earlier, we are like thinking about building a mini game that will use avatars, especially to give them more utility.
We just had like so many ideas on how this game would look like.
We can't like really decide yet.
So we're definitely open to like some ideas on like like the perfect situation would be if we actually build it just like a smart contract on chain.
So everything is totally secure and so on.
So yeah, got it.
That makes sense. I have a few ideas. I have a few ideas. I'll hit you guys up after.
OK, so, guys, it's all clear.
You guys have built a really fantastic product.
Actually, a question. So you guys kind of made the decision to go on Telos zero, Telos mainnet.
Do you guys have any future plans to maybe expand to EVM?
I think the reason we we prefer to build on native or zero is just because that's where our technical expertise lies.
And also, as a developer, it just gives you more flexibility and more power than EVM, in my opinion.
But I'm sure that advanced EVM developers, you know, would might disagree.
But it's a very good application for our use case where we are building a social application where we need to have a lot of low cost transactions in order for the platform to be on chain the way it operates.
Probably we are working. Well, we have already.
We're actually already talking about setting up a bridge so that you can bridge your boy tokens to the EVM and use them like in Swapsipple, for example.
So we'll have like liquidity pools on the EVM.
That's kind of the extent of what we were thinking.
Also, the ability to perhaps you could I talked previously about how you in order to withdraw funds, you need to log in with a Telos zero account.
I think in the future, we're going to add the ability where you could log in with the Telos EVM accounts to withdraw funds from your boy account to your EVM account without touching the native layer.
So that I think that would be a useful feature. It's kind of depends on what the community is asking for.
Got it. That makes a lot of sense. It makes a lot of sense, especially when you're highlighting the different unique aspects of Telos zero versus Telos EVM.
And I guess it's a give or take rate.
I mean, the majority of applications that we're seeing, especially these days are the ones that we're onboarding are on EVM.
But of course, I always love to see some love being shown to Telos zero.
So with that being said, guys, what's kind of next for boys?
We know that, you know, you guys are kind of live on mainnet.
Can you guys give us a rundown on the timeline that we can kind of expect from you?
Well, what is it that you guys are kind of looking for within this early stage of the mainnet launch?
Sure. Yeah. I mean, this is kind of a soft launch.
So if if you're listening to this now and you're learning about Boyd, like now's a good time to to get involved as an early adopter.
And we the plan is to we already have a design completed for a completely new Web site.
So if you go to the current site now, it's a hub boy dot com.
This is kind of our alpha interface, but we're building a completely new interface, which is going to be more kind of Web two friendly.
It's going to it's going to be much easier for kind of a common person to to wrap their head around.
And so that's that's definitely our goal.
Maybe by the summer, I think we could have that live.
And also, we have NFTs that people we have Boyd NFTs on iOS and on wax.
And we would like for those people to be able to use their entities on telos.
So we're working on an NFT IBC bridge to allow them to move those NFTs to telos native.
That's that's going to be a big milestone for us.
And then users will be able to stake those NFTs in their Boyd account to unlock boosters that gives them advantages, gives them upgrades to their account, essentially.
And we also have an AI project that we're working on.
And the idea is that when you're participating on the Boyd platform, you'll be able to contribute towards your GPU power towards the AI art projects that we're working on.
And those will probably be announcing more information about those in the coming months as well.
Perfect, guys. Lots of things coming soon, lots of things under development, lots of things that people can experience right now and a whole bunch of features that will be added in the near future.
Perfect. Thank you, guys. With that being said, I think we're just about rounded out.
Would you guys like to share any last words around Boyd, any, you know, any alpha, any sneak peeks, anything last words you guys like to share?
Yeah, I would just say that Boyd is kind of it's kind of special in that you can't just log in and make an account, you actually need an invite from someone or you have to buy the account yourself.
But if you get an invite, then you can basically don't have to pay anything. It's a free account.
So if you're interested in trying the platform, just join our telegram and ask for an invite and someone will make an invite for you.
And you can give the platform a shot. Like we said, we're doing a rewards program.
So active accounts that are generating Boyd power and participating and, you know, updating their profile and things like that are eligible to receive NFT and token rewards over time.
So now's the time to hop in if you're curious.
Awesome. Thank you for that, John. Any last words, Seth?
Yeah, so I think one thing to say is that we need help, right?
We are a small team. And if anyone wants to help us and start creating, you know, like content and some art and stories, you know, always open for new people to join.
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah, we we actually have a whole lore website where stories that people have submitted as part of the Boydverse.
We have a whole we have like thousands of years of lore in our in the Boydverse universe. Right.
So and that's contributed. That's like some of it's written by me. Some of it's written by Seth. Some of it's written by other people in the community.
And we also have a lot of art based on that lore.
And you can buy that. Those are NFTs on Telos zero.
Those are actually NFTs that you can buy at NFT dot Boyd dot com.
And yeah, if you're if if any of that sounds interesting, you know, we're we're always looking to expand that aspect of the way as well.
There you have it, guys. A truly community led project with some of the original community contributors of the OSIO, AntelopeIO and now Telos.
So we're very excited to have you guys on Telos for people that would love to get in contact with John and Seth.
They are very active. Feel free to engage with them on our Telegram.
We have a dedicated gaming sub channel within our Telegram where you can ask them all sorts of questions.
You want to get involved and you want to contribute to Boydverse.
If you want to contribute to Boyd lore, if you have questions on mint and NFTs or how to create an account or how to get started.
They are there. They're responsive. They are part of the community.
So with that being said, John and Seth and Veronica, I see you in the audience.
Thank you so much for attending. We really appreciate you guys.
And we hope to make your launch a success on Telos.
They really appreciate it, Peter. It's great. Great to talk with you.
Hope we'll have some more updates for you in the future.
Yeah, thank you very much for you.
Absolutely. Much love, guys. And for everybody else, we'll be doing much more updates.
So please stay tuned. We are doing big things this year. All right, guys. Have a great day.