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Tezos Community Call | APAC Edition #43 | @TzApac
Recorded: Sept. 20, 2023 Duration: 1:05:18Space Recording
Full Transcription
Hello, hello, welcome, welcome.
Just give us one minute.
We're sending out invites, trying to get Ajit in here.
Space usually takes a minute to get going.
All right.
Welcome, welcome.
All right. Well, we'll get started with some small talk while we wait for everybody to come in.
Welcome, welcome.
Who am I? So I'm talking with Jasmine today.
Yeah, I'm Jasmine. Jasmine is here with Corinne. So both of us are speaking from the same account.
Oh, okay. Okay. All right. Awesome. Awesome. I'll try to keep track with the voices.
So that was Corinne, who was just talking?
Me. So this is Jasmine. Jasmine is the one with the high-pitched voice and the giggles.
And this is Corinne. I'm not sure if you can tell us apart. Maybe my voice is a bit lower.
I think I'll be able to tell you guys apart. I think I'll be able to tell you guys apart.
Great. And we're speaking with Wayne, right?
Yeah, this is Theo Wayne. Yeah, welcome. Welcome. And we should have Ajit here, too, in a minute.
I just DMed him as well. And yeah, we have a few people who usually come and listen every week.
For some reason, this happens with every Twitter call. It always takes a couple minutes, about 10, you know, 15 minutes or so
before the space actually really hits everybody else's Twitter.
Yeah, which is what I've noticed. So how are you guys doing today?
We're doing good. It's like, it's 1 p.m. over here. So we just had our lunch.
Yeah. And we just had one super busy week last week for Token. So this week is just about, you know, unwinding and just cleaning up everything.
Yeah. How about yourself?
I'm doing pretty good. It's 1 a.m. here, but I took a nap, so I got some sleep.
So I'm doing pretty good. I'm doing pretty good.
I love these calls. These calls are always great because I'm always stuck in the, you know, Western Hemisphere dealing with all the craziness that is the United States.
So I don't get to ever really hear what's going on on the other side of the world unless I do these spaces.
So I'm always excited to be here.
Right. Where are you from, actually?
So I'm in New Hampshire, New Hampshire in the United States.
Oh, I see. We're both from Singapore.
Yeah, we're both based in Singapore right now.
Oh, awesome. Well, Singapore is like the opposite of the United States, right?
There's like a lot of development, a lot of just not even crypto, but startups in general are really popping off in Singapore.
I've noticed.
Yeah, we're really a startup hub.
Yeah, the government is really supportive of startups as well.
So that's probably why we have the reputation going on.
Yeah. And the entire last week was token week.
So token 2049 is like, I guess, the biggest crypto event in Asia.
Yeah.
Yeah. So everyone was here in Singapore and there were like side events and parties everywhere.
That's awesome. That's amazing.
So I have Ajik here. Ajik, feel free to come up.
We're setting out invites, invite everybody.
And yeah, we're just talking with, we have Jasmine and Corinne under one account here.
So, and then I'm told Jasmine has the higher pitch voice.
I think I'm doing it.
So we'll start with, we'll start with Jasmine.
So tell us about yourself, who you are and yeah, how you got here to Web3.
So I was actually not in Web3 prior to TZAPEC.
So I'm the creative lead here at TZAPEC.
So I'm with the marketing team and I do everything visual.
So everything that you see that is published by TZAPEC has my touch in it.
And so before TZAPEC, I mainly know Web3 as like, you know, just less any mainstream person knows it.
Like NFT, PFPs, I hear like bought apes and stuff.
But since like joining TZAPEC, I am more privy to like all the startups that are happening.
They are building on Web3.
Yeah, especially in Asia.
And also like, I'm more, I'm interested in the arts side of things as well.
So we have a lot of partnerships and like arts events going on.
And that just really opened my eyes to what Web3 is all about.
Like I see all the projects from different Asian countries building on Tezos.
And like, yeah, just I've learned a lot in my time in TZAPEC here.
So I am not as much of a Web3 noob anymore.
True blue heads of space.
That's awesome.
That's awesome.
And what about you, Karin?
So for me, I actually came from Web2 background events actually before I even, you know, got exposed to the Web3 world.
I actually got exposed to Web3 world through a very mainstream game, XA Infinity.
So I first lived in the Web3 via XA Infinity and I got interested in, you know, Web3 gaming in general.
So that's when I went into a Web3 game project before I came into TZAPEC.
And then at the project side, we were really restricted because it's a startup and everything.
Very, very tight budgets, very tight timelines.
And ultimately, because we're all in the bear market at the moment, it was really hard to get our project going.
I think we're building our game for a year plus.
But in the end, we didn't have a choice but to pull the plug.
So I thought when I got, you know, when I joined TZAPEC eventually, it's just like, wow, I can use this knowledge that I have as a project.
And then now coming into a layer one blockchain, I feel like this is the knowledge that I can use to help our startups in the blockchain,
especially for our incubator program as well, which I'm sure later on we will touch more about it.
So, yeah, excited to be in TZAPEC.
So, that's amazing.
Those are some really cool backgrounds, actually.
All the people I've interviewed for plenty and Tezos Commons, you know, we all typically have boring backgrounds.
Like, oh, I worked in an office.
You guys, we're actually ready.
I feel like you guys, you know, we're building up to Web3 this whole time.
So that's really cool.
That's awesome.
And you mentioned Axie Infinity.
I don't know how, I got so many questions, Corinne.
I mean.
You're a huge fan.
I'm a huge fan.
But no, yeah.
Yes.
So, that's crazy.
So, what made you, like, really join Tezos and move away from that whole Axie Infinity kind of community?
Because I know that was huge a couple years ago.
That was, like, the number one thing.
Exactly.
I think for TZAPAC in general, I just love the whole vibe and our ethos here at TZAPAC, which is mostly about empowering our Asian champions.
And I feel that that resonated a lot with me because I'm all about, you know, supporting the different people in our ecosystem.
So, whether it's their artists, whether they're entrepreneurs, whether they are gamers or game developers in a building on the Tezos blockchain, I feel like that is something that I really find myself enjoy doing.
Because I've been marketing for about three years now, actually, and I never really had the opportunity to market or, you know, celebrate wins like how TZAPAC does.
And I find that that is really very enriching for me.
So, you know, from, I mean, games are fun.
The community is great.
But nothing, for me personally, at least, nothing beats celebrating wins within our community.
So, I think that's the beauty about TZAPAC.
I want to jump in here as well.
So, I came from an agency background where I work with, like, MNCs and work on their campaigns and stuff.
And why I left that environment to join TZAPAC was also because I wanted to be closer to the projects that I market.
So, it's amazing how, like, when I'm here in TZAPAC and we're marketing, like, the projects from our incubator or just the Asian champions that Corinne mentioned,
we have, like, a closer connection with them.
And we actually speak to the person that we have, like, our marketing that has an impact on them.
Like, we know when we're pushing a campaign and all, it has a direct impact on all the projects that we are working with.
And it's just amazing to meet all of them, especially when, you know, we go to events or they come down to Singapore.
And because our office is TZAPAC's developer hub based in Singapore, when the projects come down to Singapore, they are free to work in our office.
And it's amazing to just work with them and see them in person and, you know, just have mentor and conversations that you will never, ever have if you don't work with, like, smaller projects and stuff like that.
Exactly.
You get to know their stories and who they are behind their projects.
Exactly.
Yeah.
That's really beautiful.
That is beautiful.
I mean, I feel the exact same way, right?
You just get to meet people that I would have never have met before.
You know, people like you guys who have these awesome backgrounds, people like Bernd and Ajit who have all these skills and have started businesses and stuff.
People I would never get to meet in my normal everyday life.
And I cannot wait to the day that I get to fly out and visit Singapore for an incubator or, you know, India just to visit Ajit.
Like, I cannot wait to do one of those things.
I'm afraid of flying, but I'm going to do it.
You got to do it someday, man.
We are open arms welcoming you to the office, man.
Yeah, I would love to.
Singapore would be a dream.
Another place I would really want to visit in the APAC region would be Taiwan because they have, they're always in here.
I have had an amazing community that is coming out of Taiwan with NFTs and art and stuff.
So I'd like to go visit them too.
That'd be awesome.
But yeah, I definitely have plans.
I definitely have plans.
Definitely.
I think we have a lot of talented Taiwan artists in the Tezos ecosystem as well.
Every week when we do Test Bytes, which is our weekly roundup of the Tezos ecosystem.
A lot of the artists in our art marketplaces like OBJECT and Akaswap are all mostly from Taiwan and their art is really, you know, something else.
The Akaswap team is based in Taiwan.
So if you're ever in Taiwan, you can definitely sync up with them and can meet them.
And I don't know, just have a more insider scoop from the people down in the community themselves.
Yes, I would love to.
Xin Yao Lin, I just did an interview with him at TZ Commons.
He was an awesome person.
And I love Akaswap.
I think to this day, we're still kind of, all of our contracts are built off the back of those first Akaswap contracts from years ago.
So I definitely shout out to them for sure.
Yeah.
We love them.
We just met them last week.
Yeah, yeah.
They were in town for our token.
So we met them.
That's right.
He was telling me that he was in an event.
That's awesome.
So that's awesome.
So tell us real quickly about the event then.
Tell us about, you said it was a token week.
Is that what it was called?
Yeah.
So token 2049 is an event and we were hosting plenty of side events.
So the one where we met Akaswap was actually at an FXHash event.
So we did an exhibition with FXHash that was held at Mandala Club.
So it was a generative art night where we had panels speaking about generative art, which is FXHash's specialty.
And we had, we displayed artwork by random combo.
Yeah, random combo.
And we had a curator.
So we had Clara Pay on our panel, who was the curator of the exhibition at Art Science Museum,
which is the partnership that we had with Akaswap.
So plenty of connections here and there.
So Akaswap is currently showing at Art Science Museum.
So the founder of Akaswap, Elun Wang, yeah, his chaos AI research is currently being showcased at Art Science Museum,
which is a huge accomplishment, I feel, to be displayed in Art Science Museum, one of the largest museums in Singapore.
Yeah, just to add on to Jasmine's point, I think traditional art exhibitions doesn't really, you know,
give you a chance to really interact with the artworks.
But for Elun Wang's chaos AI research, you get to actually, you know, collaborate,
in a way collaborate with the artists themselves by creating artworks.
And then you can mint it straight from the Tezos blockchain and bring home something to remember your experience by from the museum.
So you see, this has to be the event that I go to next year then, I guess.
So you'll have to keep me updated.
And, yeah, definitely keep us updated on any live events that are happening over in the APAC area.
Definitely let everybody know because they're awesome.
Another, you know, one that happened earlier in the year was the Indian Art Festival.
Majid, I don't know if you got to, I don't think you went to that, right?
But that was amazing.
We were there.
But the team was there, right, with Nan, and they crushed it there.
So that's another one I really want to visit next year.
I would really love to go to that fair as well.
Ajit.
So welcome.
Welcome.
Good segue.
Welcome to the space, my name.
Welcome, Theo.
Welcome.
Hi, Jasmine and Fran, if I'm calling your name correctly.
Sorry, excuse me if I'm spelling it wrong.
No worries.
Nice.
One more thing I wanted to ask is the gaming group, right?
Like I saw a tweet on TV at APAC about the gaming.
So it looks like a lot has been happening on gaming.
So how was, what are the takeaways from the gaming side from the event?
Actually, let's pause that for a second.
Actually, real quick.
Before we dive into gaming and everything, we should quickly explain.
And in your, in you guys' own words, what is TZAPAC?
So TZAPAC is basically the APAC arm of Tezos.
And what we do here is basically empower our Asian champions.
You hear me and Jasmine talk a lot about our Asian champions.
It's basically we're referring, referring Asian champions to, you know, our founders, artists, basically everybody in our TZOS ecosystem in Asia.
So, yeah, basically we are a Web3 ecosystem builder, empowering founders, creators, developers, and institution leaders to thrive.
So we celebrate their wins.
We talk about them.
We market about all the different events and activations that's happening in Asia itself.
So, yeah, that's basically what TZAPAC does.
Awesome.
And then, and then, yeah, sorry, Ajit, go ahead.
You can answer the gaming question.
I am, I am 100% a gamer too.
Very interested.
Currently crushing Final Fantasy.
Waiting for Rebirth to come out.
Super excited.
Definitely a gamer.
So tell us what you guys get going on in regards to the gamer, in gaming.
Sorry.
Right.
Right.
So for gaming side, for TZAPAC itself, you would, if you, you know, keep up to date with whatever that we are doing, TZAPAC doesn't really talk a lot about gaming.
And we are aiming to change that narrative from, you know, second half of this year and into next year.
So we're really going to expand and expand our gaming community, whether they are game developers, publishers, guilds, or gamers itself.
So for now, we have two BDs on board our team that basically are out there to kind of source games into, for them to build on the Tezos blockchain.
And we do have a few games in line.
I don't think that we can talk about them yet, but they are really, really fun.
I mean, a hint for one of them is that one of them is actually a rhythm game.
And rhythm games are like super big, even in Web 2, right?
Like we have, also we have O2 Jam.
We have a lot of games like that.
And one of them is, one of the bigger ones is actually coming onto the Tezos blockchain.
So that's really exciting.
So during the token 2049 week, we actually have a booth at an event called Web3 Fiesta, where basically we connect with all the different game, the different game community in Web3.
So we managed to talk to them and we managed to network, find out what they're doing.
We even did a survey there to find out, you know, what are the contents they consume so that we can better understand them and better push content out to them.
So I think you'll see a lot of exciting games, game-related content that's coming out of TZA back soon.
So, yeah, you can stay tuned to that.
That's awesome.
Go ahead, Ajit.
Sorry.
Well, there was one game which was launched, right?
It's not launched yet, I guess, but they're asking for early testers.
KO, I guess.
Is that also from APEC or it's something different?
Like some street fighter game?
Oh, Kyo, is it?
Is it the one that Tano's with Kyo are?
That is currently not built in Asia.
That is currently not built in Asia.
But in terms of marketing, Kyo, definitely for TZA back, our aim is to, you know, help all the games in the Texas ecosystem have an audience in Asia.
So that will be our room for that.
Great.
And so we mentioned, so we talked about incubators a little bit and we, you know, mentioned empowering, you know, Asian developers and artists.
So tell us about what you guys have going on with incubators and hackathons.
So tell us about that stuff.
Yeah, so we recently had our demo day for our second batch of the incubator back in July.
So that was when all our projects from our second batch of our incubator flew down and they presented to, I think, VCs and investors from about 35 to 36 different companies.
So that was like a, it was like a, I would say, the great bang to the end of the second incubator.
So it was great to finally meet these projects face to face because throughout the entire three months of that incubator, it was all like masterclasses, online workshops, and they got one-to-one mentorship with Julian on how to pitch.
And also like our different various mentors from like Draper Startup House and other partners.
So, oh, yeah.
And I think we have also followed up with all these projects.
So we also have our community rewards program.
And, I mean, we still keep in touch with all these projects.
So recently in the token week, we had Kelana from Hyperglade.
He came down and visited us at all our events, came down to work in our office.
We also displayed art from one of our projects from China.
So his project is G-Art.
And he actually gave us an artwork that we displayed at Generative Art Night.
So that was like an amazing collaboration.
Yeah.
So we strive to like, you know, always keep in touch with our projects.
And whatever they're doing, we'll always share on our social channels and market it to all our audience just to, you know, to show that we are not just supporting them during the incubator process,
but also throughout like after the after process as well.
Like we're always here for them.
Adding on to Jasmine's point about them always staying connected beyond the incubator program, we even had Accin and Coop from our cohort one of our incubator program come and say hi, visit our office and then connect with us during the token 2049 week as well.
So that, that was really nice.
Pastopia.
Pastopia.
Yeah, we're all super excited about Pastopia.
Our colleagues were playing the game during office hours and everyone was like, oh my God, we want to play too.
La la la.
So what, so what would be, is there a main focus that TZAPAC has when it comes to helping projects grow like gaming or, or is it just general, whatever is a, you know, good idea?
I think it's more of, it's pretty general, but definitely with the new like gaming BDs coming on board, we will see more gaming stuff coming up, but we definitely support any project that comes our way that has like, you know, if they are putting in the work, we will put in the work together with them to market them to our entire like APEC audience.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Basically our incubator program, we try to, you know, take different projects from different, different categories.
In Web3, we have DeFi, we have wallets, we have games, we have platforms.
So we try to have a mix and match of this kind of projects in our incubator program.
So, you know, it's, it's really for everybody that, that is looking to build on the Tesla blockchain.
That's awesome.
And I had a question and I forgot it and I was trying to remember it last second, but then you guys stopped talking and now I am rambling to myself.
Oh, I remember now.
So how can people get involved if they're interested and if they're like building a project and, and they want to get involved?
Definitely follow us on our social media because that's where we'll announce like when the next incubator is and stuff.
But I mean, definitely if they're already building on the Tesla's blockchain, feel free to just connect, connect with us on like our Twitter account, our LinkedIn account.
Like we are, we are really open there.
So once they connect with us on these social channels, we'll direct them to, you know, like the appropriate team that's doing what, like that's providing the support that they need.
Yeah.
Cause it's dependent on what support the projects need, right?
Like if they're looking to build on Tesla's and they need some, I don't know, developer help or, or maybe looking to get some funding and we'll source them, we'll channel them to the people who are in charge with that and to get them the right support that they need.
Yeah.
Okay, cool.
And, um, so I was, uh, wondering, we have a couple of cool people in listening down below.
Would you be opposed to, uh, people coming up and asking questions themselves?
For sure.
Yeah.
We will try our best to answer.
Cool.
Well, I'll, I'll put the invite out there.
Um, I see Kevin.
Um, I see Sarisa.
Hi, Sarisa.
It's been a while since we talked to her.
So yeah.
Anybody who wants to come up and, um, yeah, hang out, talk to TZAPAC, ask questions, feel free to send a request and come up.
One fact, Sarisa's art is displayed in our office, right here in the TZAPAC office.
Oh, that's awesome.
That's amazing.
That's amazing.
I need to, I should buy something myself.
You know, I need to, I need a piece by Sarisa.
That's a good reminder.
I'm going to write a note right now.
All right.
And, uh, so Ajit, Ajit, tell us what's going on.
How are you doing?
It's good morning.
It's 9 a.m. for you.
Uh, you have any questions for Karina and Jaz?
Good morning.
Yeah.
Like, I mean, first, when you asked what's going on, we are mostly, especially with plenty, we are launching V3, right?
So we are like sort of, it's the end today, we're doing the last minute testing, all that stuff.
So, you know, pretty much.
I forgot about that.
Yeah, I forgot about that.
I forgot about that.
Oh, yeah.
So, of course, you're sorry, it didn't work right now.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
So, currently pretty much occupied with that.
Otherwise, yeah, otherwise, everything going good.
All right.
Well, I did want to ask, um, TZAPAC, they had this amazing tweet that I saw, uh, in relations to CoinGecko.
So, what was that all about?
Please tell us.
Oh, our Learn and Earn program.
Is that right?
The tweet on the Learn and Earn program?
Yeah, Learn and Earn.
That's right.
Yep.
So, uh, I actually, I love that because that is like a series of, it's basically like a series of video, like how-to videos teaching people who are not familiar with V3.
How you can, you know, get on V3.
So, there's like topics on like how to, how to mint your first NFT, how to buy your first NFT, how to create your first, like, wallet on Tezos using, like, your social media accounts with KuKai.
So, that is like really accessible for people who are unfamiliar with V3.
And I think it's a, it's like, it's an amazing resource.
So, did you guys rug?
Are you there?
Did I rug?
Yeah.
Like, I was not able to hear anything for like a minute.
Now it's back.
Now I'm able to hear your voice.
Am I open?
Oh, yeah.
Uh, yeah.
Okay, good.
I thought the space rugged.
Uh, no, Corinne and Jasmine rugged.
Oh, no.
I hope dad also did.
I'm going to, I'm going to send him a message.
I'll send him a message real quick.
Sorry, everybody.
Give us one minute.
Oh, I see a speaker.
Oh, I see.
Are you guys back?
Are you guys back?
Oh, there they go.
Okay.
All righty.
Let's get him back up here.
Oh, there you guys are.
See you guys.
Oh, man.
I was talking on and on about CoinGecko.
I know.
It was like the best part of the space, too.
Yeah, so, um, yeah, so with CoinGecko, I, I love it because it's like resources for
people who are unfamiliar with Web3.
So it's, it's basically like step by step on maybe how to create your first, uh, wallet
on Tezos with Kukai, with just your social media handles or your Gmail account.
So it's really accessible for people who are unfamiliar with Web3 because to me, I feel
if you're unfamiliar with Web3 and with like, oh, you know, all the buzzwords popping around
like blockchain, smart contract, decentralized, people will be like, it will be very
daunting to take your first step in the Web3.
But with like a series of content with CoinGecko, it breaks it down into very accessible step
by step, um, tutorials where, you know, people can learn how to buy their first NFT, how to
create their first wallet and just basically baby steps in the Web3 for people who are
unfamiliar.
So I think it's a really great resource.
You guys can check it out and, you know, let us know.
Yeah.
And you're incentivized to learn more about it because, uh, we are giving out some, uh,
tests as rewards as well.
So it, it really, you know, helps to make the learning process all the more rewarding.
Yeah, I think it's really amazing.
Uh, we need so much more of this stuff.
Um, when you, when we talked about it the first time in one of my spaces, I had made
sure to mention that one of the reasons I joined Tezos in the first place, uh, it was
because I learned about it on Coinbase.
Uh, they have, yeah, they had a, uh, you know, one of their similar, um, they, they call
it like a rewards program or something, you know, you learn about the blockchain and you
get like a dollar or so, and that's exactly what made me look into Tezos in the first
place.
And, uh, I have, I've been here ever since.
So these learn and earn initiatives, uh, I, I can't, I can't, uh, stress articulate, articulately
well enough how important, uh, they are.
So definitely thank you.
Uh, is there, is there going to be more things like this coming in the future?
Um, you just gotta follow us to know.
And hearing, hearing your story about how, how you were exposed to the Tezos through,
through another learning program, uh, program, it was, was really nice to hear that.
That's exactly why we do things like this, right?
Is to really, you know, help people to, to, you know, smoothen their onboarding process
into Web3 and, you know, choose Tezos as their, their blockchain of choice and people
like you, that's, that's how we, you know, keep the community rich and engaging.
Um, yeah, like I said, I can't, I don't even know what the words are to, um, describe how
important and cool that is that you guys did that.
So thank you.
And, um, I also, I'm going through your, uh, Twitter now and I saw that TZAPAC was at
World Champ Partners Day.
What was that like?
Were you guys there?
Woohoo!
Yeah, we were.
We were both there.
Tell us about that.
Yeah.
So basically, um, we were there at World Champs Partner Day.
So basically, um, Champ Medici, which is, um, fun fact, Snoop Dogg Sun.
So, um, it's actually partnered with Tezos Foundation.
So for the Champ Medici Arts Fund.
So basically what they do is they, they support emerging artists across the globe, looking
to build and create art on Tezos, whether it's, you know, I think, uh, it, it, it launched
with the idea of, um, empowering artists, like, uh, music, music artists.
But now I think they are, you know, you know, progressing into art itself as well.
Yeah.
And I believe we have a Singaporean artist up there.
Yeah, Laurie.
Yeah.
Did we?
Oh, but we didn't get to meet her.
She, yeah.
Yeah.
We, we barely crossed paths.
It was, we should have crossed paths with her, but I think we barely missed her.
And I think that, that whole event was fun.
Like we were listening to panels about how people are building games.
I mean, Bite, Bite City was building, talking about building games and their metaverse and how
Champ supports, um, these initiatives.
So it was fun to like, you know, interact with people and see how they see the other
projects they are building on Tezos.
Yeah.
They're really focused on how they can use Web3 for good.
Even their games are all, um, you know, built with the idea of, uh, I think one of them,
their main goal of, uh, their game is to actually help, uh, charity work for, to save gorillas,
if I'm not wrong.
Yeah.
It's just how they can give back to the community with what they can do in Web3.
Yeah.
So I think that's a brilliant project that, uh, Champ Medici has.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
I, and I'm jealous, obviously, uh, you know, that, that sounds really cool.
And, um, I want to ask, what are you guys most excited for, um, uh, going forward in the future
of Tezos?
There's so much going on right now.
You know, we have, uh, upgrades, we, the new upgrade happening.
We have, uh, you know, rollups coming.
Um, there's all kinds of sort of, you know, big things happening.
I was wondering, what are you guys' opinions on all of it?
And what are you guys most excited for in the future of Tezos?
I think for me personally, it's definitely our first steps or few steps into, um, expanding
the gaming community, because I feel like, um, gaming is such a big thing, especially
in Web3 and especially in Asia itself.
So I feel like there's so much potential there and gaming, gamers, you know, form such a great
community, whether it's theorycrafting, whether it's really gaming together on, on, um, with
streamers or within themselves.
I think gaming is just such a beautiful space and I mean, maybe I'm biased because
I'm a gamer myself.
So, um, you know, expanding into gaming is really something that I'm really excited to
do and I'm really looking forward to.
So that's for me personally.
Yeah.
For me, I know.
So, uh, Tezos, TZA pack is actually spearheading the blockchain curriculum at NUS.
So they are, we are partners with them, uh, at their new center for nurturing computing
excellence.
So that'll be a great platform to like, you know, reach out to students.
And, you know, that's how we get more people building on the blockchain, right?
Especially Tezos.
So we're hitting them, like, you know, as they're starting, we have student developers
interested in blockchain and they're wondering, you know, where should I build?
What should I do?
And the series of, uh, curriculum that TZA pack has that is, uh, that we are building
with NUS is going to address that, especially like, you know, like what are smart contracts?
What can, what can student developers do?
How can they start building on a Tezos blockchain?
So I think that's going to be amazing because that is like, you know, we are, we are reaching
them as they are new and upcoming.
So it's gonna, we don't even know what to expect because we don't know what these student
developers will be doing.
So that'll be an exciting thing to look forward to.
Yeah.
Especially Web3 is becoming such a, you know, popular and trending thing and it will be in
the future as well.
So basically, um, all these programs will definitely, you know, help them to future-proof themselves.
Yeah, that makes sense.
And I think you might, uh, Jasmine might've answered my next question, which was going
to be without saying the people, what, what, uh, you know, as coming from a non, you know,
crypto background, uh, before joining TZA pack, what, what is the, uh, coolest thing about
crypto to you guys, um, without saying the, the people or the community, which is, you
know, you know, an obvious one, right?
I think the coolest thing about here is also how we help existing Web2 companies step into
like Web3.
Like, I think we do have a few projects that we see, like, it may be their first foray
into Web3.
They could be like established Web2 companies and we see them trying new things and, you
know, probably stepping out of their comfort zone and trying out some, a campaign that
is Web3 based.
And I think that, that for me is cool because you see people are not stuck in the past.
Like people are like Web2 industries are also looking to progress into Web3.
And that is, that is amazing.
It shows the potential that Web3 hosts, that it's not just for, you know, like the youngsters
or the new, the people who are chasing the next new thing.
It's also for people who are solid, like they are, they have a solid foundation in their
Web2 space in whatever industry that they're, that they're in.
And they're also still looking to step into Web3.
And I think that's exciting for me.
Yeah.
I think for me, it will be actually the art scene because, um, I mean, for me personally,
I have a lot of friends that do a commission art and I always see them, you know, talking
about how they don't feel rewarded.
They don't feel like they, people value their art and I feel like with Web3, they get to,
they get to be rewarded, feel like, feel recognized, you know, with their art.
And I feel that, um, as they, as they sell more NFTs, uh, they create more art, they get,
um, rewarded by it.
Um, I think it's very, it enriches them a lot compared to Web2 where you need to find
customers to, you know, actually get them to commission art and all that.
But in Web3, you don't, you just really need to put your art in the marketplace.
And, you know, if somebody, if one of their art catches their eyes, they get it and they
have a commission and it continues on, right?
And it's also a global audience as well.
It expands their reach.
Correct.
Correct.
And especially in Indonesia with, um, we actually have a lot of campaigns and activations that
help these Web2 artists step into Web3, whether it's, uh, creating their first,
uh, NFT art on Tezos, whether it's, uh, you know, displaying those art pieces in, uh,
traditional art museums.
And, you know, I think that's, that's for me, the most, most enriching experience for Web3.
Those are both amazing answers.
And, um, yeah, the art and the global reach is definitely really cool.
And, but, uh, Jasmine, what you said, I think is very underappreciated, uh, in the community,
actually, the, um, bringing Web2 businesses into Web3.
I think if I, if I was going to describe my like dream job that I would want, it would
be exactly what you described, helping, uh, you know, small Web2 businesses improve, uh,
their business by implementing Web3 technology, that would be like my, my dream job.
So definitely need more of that in my opinion.
Yeah.
I think usually people see Web3 as a standalone thing, but they don't understand.
Well, I mean, maybe they, they are just not into it, but I believe Web3 can help enrich
their existing Web2 model.
Like it's not a complete separate entity.
Like it's, I believe Web3 is something that, uh, Web2 companies can successfully integrate
into their strategies without, you know, it being like, it's, it's not a silo thing.
Like Web3 is not just, uh, something by itself.
It's definitely something that can and should be integrated seamlessly into their Web2 strategies.
And it just, you know, it's an additional boost that I hope that more Web2 companies can
see that as well.
Um, yeah, I totally agree.
And I think more and more, uh, will as the bigger companies, um, you know, that are into
it now, like Unity and, and other companies like that, um, get more comfortable in the
space.
Um, so too, will smaller businesses feel more comfortable joining, um, at least I believe
Yeah, that's the goal over here at TZ, but.
Indonesia was another place, you know, that's another one I need to visit, um, crazy emerging
art scene in Indonesia.
Yeah.
And it's actually amazing.
Yeah.
Well, we have, uh, Atalia is our Indonesia community lead based in Indonesia, and she's
doing amazing work over there.
And, uh, I think earlier this year, we, we, we were part of at moments Jakarta was it earlier
this year or last year?
Yeah.
Last year.
So we had a competition where, uh, we featured artists and they, I think it was like the top
10 artists were part of our exhibition at Art Moments Jakarta.
And it was a whole like physical exhibition where, you know, people can claim a random
NFT that is commissioned by us from Indonesian artists.
Yeah.
We had, yeah.
NFTs, you know, were immortalized and yeah, that was, that was, you know, you know, I just
love the Indonesia community.
Like they love Tezos over there and, you know, we love them too.
And we had, I think last year we had our Indonesia Independence Day campaign where we highlighted
different artists from different regions in Indonesia.
Yeah.
And we showed 17 artists across 17 cities.
And that was like, we saw artists from all over Indonesia, not just in like Jakarta.
And that was an amazing campaign.
And we had so much, like we learned so much from there.
Yeah.
We had so much engagement, you know, people showing up who their favorite artists are.
And yeah, I just love giving like all these artists, like a global, a global stage, you
know, to shine.
I totally agree.
And, you know, I, I humbly agree with you, which is why I've, you know, we, I started this
call in the first place.
Right.
Um, it's just something I've always wanted to do, be able to talk to, uh, just different
artists from all around the world.
And yeah, I've gotten to meet a bunch of great artists from Indonesia and I'm really
impressed with everything coming out of there.
Yeah.
If, yeah.
So at TZAPAC, we also do like a series of artist commission limited edition t-shirts.
So if you're ever, you know, down in our office, you can, you can snatch one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, definitely.
Yeah.
I love that campaign.
So we reached out to, I think so far we are in our third series now.
And our third series is from a Malaysian artist, Mumu The Stand.
I'm not sure if you know her.
She's, she specializes in pixel art.
Yeah.
So we have a three in the series now.
So if you're ever down, you know, we have one reserved for you while stocks last.
Oh, that's awesome.
Thank you guys.
Yeah.
That's really cool.
Oh, it's, you know, speaking of, is merch something you guys are thinking about getting
into or is it just something you help out with, with other projects?
I think for merch, for TZAPAC, we're always about, you know, empowering the artists in
the Tesla ecosystem, right?
So we always, you know, try to collaborate with them to, you know, give them as Jasmine
said, give them a global platform.
So, so funny you mentioned that because in Web3 Fiesta, we actually had a gacha machine
where visitors can actually, you know, fill up a survey and then they can, they can have
a chance at the gacha, gacha machine where they can win merch like our backpacks with McLaren.
As Jasmine said, the Moomer to Stand, our latest artist collaboration t-shirt, other pants,
or even just, you know, in general, some edition stickers and stuff.
Yeah.
And those are really popular.
Yeah.
Everybody loves merch.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's awesome.
Oh, sorry.
And with regards to like whether we're going into merch, I think most of our merch that
we do, it's not for profit.
It's mostly just, you know, for the engagement, for the, for the outreach.
We do it to, to partner with our artists and our, you know, companies that we do instead
of like selling them for profit.
It's more of just limited edition gifts that we give to like, you know, friends of the ecosystem
where just to show appreciation for their support.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
I think merch is something, um, a lot of artists could, could do a lot more with, right?
Um, it's easier than ever with all the drop shipping companies that are online nowadays.
And, um, yeah, I think it would just add a whole nother level to, to the art scene.
And it's funny, we were talking about bringing, um, web three to web two businesses, but I, you
know, it's, I, maybe web three could benefit by bringing a little bit of web two into it as
well.
Right.
Um, yeah, it's always a two way street, man.
Well, that's the thing, right?
I think we forget, um, that it's all the same web.
It's a, it's an evolution, you know, it's not a, it's a separate thing.
It's an, it's an evolution of the first thing.
So, uh, we, we forget that sometimes, I think.
That's very quote wordy.
It's all the same web.
That's right.
And, um, you know, we, we get sidetracked by words a lot, uh, especially in the blockchain
world.
Um, for instance, you know, there seems to be the divide between NFTs and, uh, DeFi.
And, um, there really shouldn't be because all NFTs are inherently, uh, DeFi.
You know, it's a non-fungible token.
So, um, yeah, you know, we, we get confused by these words and we, I think we put too much
power behind them sometimes.
Yeah.
Agree.
Agree.
I think the web tree should be seamlessly integrated into whatever that we're doing in web two already.
I don't think it's meant to take over web two's position.
It's just meant to enhance whatever that we're doing.
Yeah.
And amplify.
Yeah.
So I completely, I completely resonate with what you said.
Oh, that's awesome.
I'm so glad I get to meet you guys tonight and talk to you and get to know you guys a little
more.
Um, it sounds like we'll be good friends coming forward.
Yeah, for sure.
Both of you.
Um, and then I wanted to give, uh, you know, a last minute, um, uh, request, uh, shout out.
Uh, yeah.
If you guys want to come up, everybody listening down below, um, and say hi, we'll probably run
for another 10 minutes or so.
So, uh, now would be your last chance to come up, say hi, ask some questions and, uh, and
yeah.
Agree, I see you unmuted.
Go right ahead.
Yeah.
One of the tweet and so on from Tezos India handle is, uh, Tezos grant program, community
grant program.
Is it something that, uh, that is related to APAC as well?
Or, uh, how is that?
Yeah.
Uh, or it's only something Tezos India is rolling out.
Yeah.
So, uh, for TZAPAC, we do have our own, uh, small grants program as well to help, uh, you
know, help these startups get a springboard to, you know, grow and scale to how they
envision it to be.
So we definitely have that.
Even our incubator program, um, that Jasmine earlier mentioned, eventually when they go
through demo day and we find that their project is.
We prep them.
Yeah.
Basically we prep them over here to prepare, you know, to get them ready for the grant.
So we have Imran who runs like, you know, who's part of the incubator program and he helps
the projects to, you know, make sure that they are ready for their grant submission.
Yeah.
So it's definitely a global thing.
Yeah.
That we, you know, that we can push projects to, and we do help the projects, uh, meet
like the grant criteria.
So, uh, projects who come to us saying that, you know, guys, we, you know, we're looking
for some grants and stuff.
We help them to our best abilities, um, to meet the grant criteria and to make sure that,
you know, they are ready for submission for the grants.
So it's definitely not just a Tezos India thing, but a Tezos blockchain, Tezos ecosystem
thing.
Yeah.
So, uh, just to add on to Jasmine's point, especially for gaming, since we are really
expanding into that, um, we are actually offering some really good, um, grants for games that,
that wants to build on Tezos.
I mean, whether it's, they are, they are converting from another chain into Tezos or whether they
are starting to build on Tezos.
So, uh, yeah, so grants on the gaming side is really, it's, yeah.
We hope that.
Nice.
Yeah.
And like one fundamental question I have is, uh, uh, there are a lot of entities, right?
Like Tezos India is there, Tezos, uh, uh, let's say, Tezos Philippines is there, Tezos
Indonesia is there.
And now there is, uh, TZAPAC as well.
So is it something like, um, yeah.
So what's the relationship between these individual entities, which is there for each country?
And, um, how is TZAPAC, uh, different from it or like, you know, how, how do you segregate
your work between the different entities and TZAPAC?
Right.
So, um, actually for Asia, um, the people here, um, are more receptive towards very localized
content.
So, um, TZAPAC is basically the main, um, channel or the main arm for everything Asia
Pacific, but, uh, we have, you will notice all these accounts, uh, Tezos Indonesia, whether
it's, uh, Tezos China, which is, yeah.
Which is, uh, listening in right now, all these, if you go through their, their Twitter
account, they are very localized content, whether it's to the language, whether it's
Indonesia, whether it's Filipino, whether it's Chinese, all these are very localized
content for catered to the people they are in the community for, or in the country they
are in.
So basically we are just, you know, the news bulletin board of Asia Pacific, but, uh, all
these other accounts, all these other entities in Asia are more, you know, catered to, to
localized content.
And we do work closely with them.
Like we all know, like Tezos India has a huge, like, developer audience and we work
closely with them, you know, when our projects need, like, developer help and stuff, we reach
out to Tezos India.
And for example, if we have a campaign going on in Tezos Indonesia, we'll reach out to
them.
Uh, like if we have a campaign running in Indonesia, we'll reach out to Tezos Indonesia and it
goes both ways.
Like if, uh, they are doing something in Indonesia, they will reach out to us and we'll amplify
it for them.
Or like if we're doing something and we believe that, you know, each community will benefit
from it as well.
That's when they localize the content and they publish it through each community's own
accounts.
So we're all part of the ecosystem.
Um, yeah, sometimes it's like, yeah, sometimes it's like, okay, TZAPAC is there and all these
entities are there.
So yeah.
How does this work?
It's like, this is a common question.
I actually got from few people who, who, uh, who are new to this ecosystem and they're like,
Oh, what are all these things?
Like I've heard some multiple people asking, I think this clarifies.
We're all friends.
Yeah.
We're all friends.
And I think the content of these entities are more or less the same.
It's just that we are the one, we are the one that is like collating, yeah, exactly.
Collating all this content from across all these different communities into one.
Hmm.
Got it.
It's actually, it's not that different in, um, in the States either.
I, it's, they're just not, the entities aren't as big as, um, as like Philippines and Tezos
India.
I mean, but there is like, uh, like, so we have Tezos commons, which is, you know, like
TZA pack.
Right.
But there is little subgroups, you know, there is like a Tezos New York, like a Tezos LA.
I bet that's Kevin.
Oh, right there.
You know, like, you know, there is like a, uh, you know, I was trying to get a Tezos New
Hampshire going.
Um, so there is smaller subgroups and I think it's more beneficial that way to have the more
localized, um, yeah, little community.
And we do have like community managers in all these different channels and stuff.
So, you know, like we're in all their telegram groups.
So we know what's going on and it's just, you know, how, how best we can amplify whatever
content that we push out.
Yep.
Agreed.
All right.
With that being said, we have four minutes, uh, any last minute, um, thoughts Ajit, um,
any questions before we run out?
Oh, I think pretty much you pretty much covered like an exhaustive phase of questions starting
from the background.
What's the future is going to look like.
So it's good.
I mean, I had more questions.
I mean, I have more questions.
I didn't even get into what their like personal friendship is like.
Like, how did we, you know, we'll ask that real quickly.
How did you guys like meet each other?
Cause you're behind the same account right now.
Uh, I assume you guys have the TZAPAC office right now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We are, you know, we are seated like right next, next to each other and Karin annoys
me every single day.
Wow.
I'm kidding.
We are like, yeah.
So we actually met just, you know, via TZAPAC, like through TZAPAC from work and stuff.
And, and I mean, it's fun, you know, we're all in the marketing team.
We go to events, you know, we brave every single like, uh, campaign together.
So, you know, that's how you build friendship is when you're in like, you're going through
stuff together.
Yeah.
And, uh, especially so for our committee managers, um, in Philippines, Indonesia, whether they
are in China and all that, um, now and again, we actually fly all of them down to have a
get together in Singapore, in the TZAPAC office.
So, you know, it sometimes gets lonely when you're the only one there.
So now all these gatherings down again, you know, helps to let them connect with us personally,
face to face.
And I think, yeah, that's what forms the friendship.
Yeah.
So, I mean, we're all in our, you know, great big Slack channel, but, oh, we're all going
to have a, I mean, we got together in token just last week and we're also going to be
bringing down our team members and we're all going to be together in November again for
our offsite.
So I love like seeing my colleagues face to face, you know, cause we usually do just like
Google meets, zoom calls, uh, online connections.
We know we stay connected.
I mean, it's 2023, right?
You don't have to be in the same place to be connected, but it's always good to hang out real
life in person.
So I love that about us.
Yep.
Oh, that's, that's, uh, that's really sweet.
That's actually adorable.
Ajit, uh, were you going to, uh, would you got to say something?
No, I was, I know that's good.
I was actually thinking of, uh, like the big picture with respect to crypto, not like Tezos,
right?
For example, how was, uh, how are the regulations and how was the adoption of crypto in general?
Um, yeah, like are, are people using crypto, um, um, in, in, any other ways other than buying
and holding?
Is there any, uh, specific scene that we see in Asia?
Yeah.
So that's something Asia as in, uh, yeah, in general in other, other Asian countries,
I mean, I pretty much know this rule in India, how it's working, but yeah, especially Singapore
and all are, yeah, they're a bit, bit more advanced with a lot of VCs, crypto VCs and,
uh, all these people.
Um, yeah, any more real, real world adoption that, that you guys see in those regions?
Real world adoption.
Real world, in terms of real world adoption, um, I think it's mostly definitely VCs like
located in Singapore based on the turn up in our demo day.
There are a lot of VCs looking to invest in like web tree projects.
And I think with our experience, I think hosting our incubator and hosting our demo day, it
definitely gives the investors like a, like more confidence cause they know that these projects
have been vetted by TJPAC and they know that these projects are real and not just a front.
And they see the, they see the project members behind the project.
They get to speak to the founders, they get to speak to the team.
So that gives, um, the VCs the confidence to know, uh, you know, solving real world, real
world problems and creating solutions that will help, uh, real world problems.
Yeah.
So regarding that, I know we work closely with, you know, hypergrade is a huge one where they
go into like marketing in the web tree space.
Yeah.
So, I mean, there are plenty of them like defined or we, you know, you can, you can search them
We, we have like in depth, um, articles on each of our projects that you can find on our content
hub.
So that really shows you the real world solutions that these projects are building.
Yeah.
There's too many to like talk about.
Yeah.
That's good.
All right.
Well, it's been great talking to you both.
Uh, Corinne, Jasmine.
Uh, I think you guys are really awesome.
Um, and it sounds like TZA pack has a lot of, a lot of fun and, and does a lot of cool things.
And yeah, I have no doubt in my mind that the, uh, that we won't get together.
The plenty team, the TZA pack team.
Um, there's gonna be really cool when it happens too.
So thank you guys for coming.
Thank you for having us.
Yeah.
Thank you for having us.
We'll be more than happy to, you know, hop onto another space.
We can talk about different aspects, different games.
Come visit us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Of course visit us.
Absolutely.
You know, absolutely.
It's definitely on my things.
Uh, my, my top priorities, uh, for sure.
And, um, yeah, you know, the space we do it, uh, although you guys know you're here, uh,
usually every week, one of you is, um, you know, every Wednesday at 5am UTC, uh, next week,
we'll probably have a little more of a community call.
Just let everybody come up, talk, say hi.
Uh, we'll be, uh, knee deep right in the middle of the V3 launch, I believe.
Um, Ajit, you want to touch on that real quick before we close the space?
Let everybody know, um, when that's coming.
Yeah, I think it's, uh, if anyone hasn't watched the promotional, uh, highlights video,
uh, I would recommend, uh, to just go through it because it's, it like sort of highlights
all the, uh, features that going to, that are going to come up in V3 with, uh, concentrated
liquidity, uh, you know, users will have more efficient swaps.
It will bring more capital efficiency and the analytics is also going to be faster and plenty.
And the main important thing is SDK.
So today SDK is also going to be launched, uh, right out of the box.
You know, people can use this SDK and, um, yeah, programmatically build whatever they want
to, uh, using the, using the plenty decks.
They could build bots, uh, they could build any financial dApps.
Uh, they, it could help in market making.
So a lot of things.
So, so yeah, so, so bunch of all these highlights are there and, uh, um, yeah, we'll be launching tonight.
Cool.
We'll look forward to that.
Cool.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Everybody check that out.
It's going to be a lot of fun and, um, we'll probably be doing some live demonstrations
as well.
Me and burned and probably on shoe.
Uh, so definitely look forward to that.
So definitely check, uh, we'll follow and keep following plenty underscore network.
Uh, so not only you get updates in the V3 launch, but that, so you don't miss these spaces.
And as a general reminder to everybody, um, none did not go anywhere.
Uh, none wallet is just changed its name to at plenty wallet.
It is not a plenty wallet.
The, uh, application is exactly the same.
Um, it's just a name change.
And it just to more go in line with the, the flow of the overall business.
And, um, and that we, these spaces are held by the plenty network account now.
So apologies if everybody, uh, it was confused about that.
Uh, you know, where did non go?
Where'd the spaces go?
We're still right here.
Uh, under follow plenty underscore network.
And, uh, yeah, every Wednesday at 5 AM UTC, we'll be here for the Tezos community call.
And with that being said, please follow TZAPAC cause they got some really cool things going on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Any last thoughts guys before we close up?
No, I just, I, I love this initiative and it's great to see like the Tezos community coming together.
And of course for plenty for hosting this.
So I love this initiative.
Oh, thank you guys.
All right.
Well, hopefully we'll see you guys next week and, uh, look forward to the timestamps and yeah, we'll keep in touch.
You guys have a great day.
Thanks everybody.
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