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$TGN 🤝 Is There Enough❓ SHILL, CHILL & GIVEAWAYS
Recorded: Dec. 4, 2025 Duration: 1:02:31Space Recording
Short Summary
In a vibrant discussion, participants explored the intersection of crypto and sustainability, highlighting token launches, strategic partnerships, and community-driven growth initiatives aimed at fostering environmental impact and social responsibility.
Full Transcription
Thank you. you you got to plant what you eat you got to plant all your seeds you got to water your seeds
trees you got to plant what you eat you got to water your seeds
you got to plant all your seeds The planta you see, you can't use it for your meditation.
You don't need doctor for your medication.
Just plant a seed on depression.
The foundation, plantation.
You can't use it for your meditation.
You don't need doctor for your medication.
Just plant a seed on depression.
Don't you really think when your body trees down? just
Thank you. No one make you slow me down, and no one make you dumb me down Follow me to a food full ground, everybody let us grow Thank you. I'm going to speak on stage. Three posts of stage.
Grow morning, tree joe.
Hope you're having a fantabulous Thursday. Let's grow let's grow let's grow much love much love welcome everybody if you're not let's grow let's grow oh well he's
got some energy this morning i love to hear it i got what i got what? I got what? You feeling the vibe?
Oh, I'm feeling the vibe, brother.
I'm buried under about three inches
of snow. It's cold AF.
It's below zero on the
Celsius dial, so yeah.
Damn, son.
I'm a little amped up today.
You gotta get amped to stay warm, huh?
That's the way it works here in these parts that works in these parts
all right all right so i want to get a mob job ready for you guys there was a slight issue but
i think we're gonna crack that code okay we got daniel in the building welcome i've invited
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welcome daniel how are you doing brother good grow morning to the Tree Jams community. How is everybody doing today?
Pretty good.
Pretty great.
Pretty, pretty, pretty good.
Yeah, we are vibing.
We're doing some mangrove planting this weekend in Mexigro.
We're connecting with some government peeps over here.
You might get that 12th country over the line for the 24-7 tree planting.
We'll see.
Sandra of Reefite Saloon has been doing some amazing connections or connections no that doesn't work that doesn't work connections
over here and uh and yeah it's uh it's a good start to the day so daniel is there enough
what a great question is there enough you know if we knew the answer to that
question we would settle a lot of conflict that otherwise never gets addressed is my is my answer
to that question today we would settle the conflict because we would realize that there is
though right yeah we would you know take almost any political or
social conversation out there that conversation sitting underneath it it's not always of course
expressed in those three words right like if you really think that there's not enough to go around
it totally makes sense to close in on your own tribe in your own country in your own whatever
makes sense to close in on your own tribe and your own country and your own
whatever, and everybody else is outside of it.
If there is enough to go around,
it actually makes more sense to have as much integration as possible.
And that's very uncomfortable for people to face that question.
And it also, you know, within ourselves, I mean,
I didn't even realize this when I first uttered the question of, is there enough?
But the most common response people were really having once they really grappled with this question you put to me is, am I enough?
Because once I get the idea that, yeah, in totality, there's definitely enough.
enough. We get more energy from the sun in a single day, Buckminster Fuller called that
our energy income, than we spend in 370 years, including fossil fuels and everything else.
So there's enough, but we don't really have it translated into what's enough for
all of us and each of us. And each and all are actually two very distinct words that also have to integrate
in world game playing I've come to find so it really settles a lot of stuff in a relationship
you know where two people are competing even though they try not to and they love each other
and so on and so forth there's a question sitting underneath it. Is there enough for all of us? Right. Jimmy and me were out on stages in various places.
And like, because I've confronted this question so deeply through so many other people's eyes,
like my whole system is around, man, I want that guy to eclipse me in every way possible
because there's enough, right?
If Jimmy does hugely successful, way faster than me, you know, he's younger than me, prettier than me, you know, all of that stuff that I can put my ego into.
And I can go, you know what?
He is me and I am him and everything he does is all part of us.
And I do think that's the kind of culture you have here.
So we're very much preaching to the choir when we have this conversation i'm sure but i think in general when the question is provoked even people who are in the deepest
darkest place start to have a little what i'd say neuroplastic neuroplasticity start to come
into their conversation even in the earliest conversations I ever had
with people starting in 2017 about this conversation, I would at least have people
who thought there was not enough feel that we at least ought to make it work for as many as possible,
which is a start. So that's how I would address that. Making the world work for as many as possible.
So there is abundance out there, but it is not distributed.
It is not attained by those that do in fact need it is kind of what I'm hearing.
Yeah.
And I think as you search for the appropriate word, as you said, distributed, and then you went to attained and we're not distributing anything. We're making the world work for 100% of humanity. And we're doing that whether we know that or not. That is what history shows.
Buckminster Fuller put a term of art on it, of the world game, of making the world work.
And, you know, 400% of you, Amanda, you asked me the other day about what the word work means.
And I think, you know, distribution sounds to me like there's a fixed pot of something, and we've just distributed it unevenly.
The truth of the matter is, is that we're growing and growing and growing and growing.
is that we're growing and growing and growing and growing.
And can we do it effectively, efficiently,
and without, as Buckminster Fuller said in the words of the world game,
without ecological offense.
What an elegant term.
Without ecological offense.
Can we do more without ecological offense can we can we do more without ecological offense or
disadvantage to any individual he said to anyone i put in the word individual that's the condition
right can we do more with less without ecological offense or disadvantage to anyone
advantage anyway. Cool. Cool. Yeah. That is an important caveat, right? It's because a lot of
folks get out there to get after it and then disadvantage others. So what are we going to do
about it, Daniel? What are we going to do about it? I think we're going to, by having this
conversation and the ones that roll off it, I've had sometimes
people go, that's not the appropriate question. The appropriate question is this, the appropriate
question is that. And I go, great, let's keep those going. If you're going to change the world,
it's only going to be done by agreement. Usually we have conflict before agreement,
but eventually we get to agreement. And in order to have agreement, we have to have
conversation. If we're going to have conversation, it's certain kinds of conversation, and it
includes more people at the table, which means each of us individually has a responsibility to
participate. That's what we're going to do about it is we're going to first start engaging in
conversation that ordinary individuals, which all of us are, each of us are,
ordinary individuals get together and have conversation about what to do about it.
To the point, by the way, that our space-like or clubhouse or social audio-like rooms that
we're working on building for the second half of next year are going to be, well, we're calling them internally.
We'll do some branding testing on this, but internally we're calling them the,
what are we going to do about it rooms?
So like this room really focuses on solutions, but I would say is a rarity
in X spaces, most of them are bitch sessions and who's wrong and who screwed
us and who needs to be taken down and who needs
to be put in jail or killed or, you know, all that stuff. And then they pretend those people that
they're not warriors. Everybody else is a warrior, not me, right? But if we get into
conversational spaces that are about finding solutions, I mean, man, you put out an impossible goal that took you three tries to do, and then
you did it and you would do it as many times as it takes.
That's what needs to happen both at the individual and the community level.
We're going to make this work no matter what it takes.
Again, without ecological offense or disadvantage to anyone, when I say whatever it takes, those two conditions for me are in there. But that's the
whole point about agreement. Agreement, not just alignment. Agreement, not just loving each other.
Agreement is about sufficient terms and conditions for all sides. That's why it's so difficult.
Because if my terms and your
terms are in clash, what are we going to do about that? Are we going to go to war about it? In which
one of us wins and enforces the other guy? That's history. Are we going to figure out maybe it's not
your way or my way, but some third way that comes out of the creative conflict. Can we tolerate that? Can we tolerate each other's differences
to find the sameness?
Beautiful.
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Welcome up to the stage.
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anyway go ahead uh daniel good to see you great to hear your voice i've been absent a little bit
but uh you probably know why uh how was brazil my friend how was brazil
you know we talked about this a couple. Nice to hear your voice again as well.
I think that the big story that's going to be unfolding is what non-state actors were doing at that event.
Because there's this 30-year frustration that we've been gathering as humanity around these cops.
And our hashtag for years over at impact launchpad was basically about implementation we know we need to get to it that's what agreement culture is about of course and you
know as I look at you know just right here Jimmy is an example here's a non-state actor with a
community behind him and support and whatever it is,
but a leader who's leading nations. The nations are not doing the leading. The leading is coming
from outside the house, so to speak. And I think that's the big story. And I think
the other part for me personally, as like a trip around the sun, so to speak, I started with a
question that's not, is there enough? But actually,
how do we invest 30 trillion in the future of humanity that we know we should be spending in
or not, even when this planet has easily more than a thousand trillion in economic wealth we
can measure? And ultimately, of course, that became how do we make enough agreement through the conversation of is there enough?
And that was very highly received.
It was very congruent for the moment.
So for us as an organization, it really felt like we're completely on time.
And it's taken us seven years to get here in which we've had to, you know, deal with, you know, people loving what we're doing, but losing patience about whether it would happen.
And it's certainly happening for us in a very big way now.
So that felt very gratifying.
I hope that answers your question.
A thousand percent.
Thank you for taking it.
Yeah, Brazil was hot.
It was hot, but it was beautiful.
I think it was meant to be like that you know first day ac was working great second day there was a epic protest with a
bunch of indigenous groups i was there at the front we barged in even though i had a blue pass
i'm still barging in with them and uh there was a lot of pushing and yelling and shoving and
passionate speeches and it was it was really moving.
Like I, I didn't understand what the guy was saying most of the time because he was speaking
Portuguese, but Amazonia, but but but and there was so much pain and passion in his voice
that tears started streaming down my face.
It was it was wild.
It was a wild experience, even though I didn't fully understand what he was saying.
I felt the passion, the pain in his voice, so deeply it was really really moving and uh and then the next day they all the air conditioning
pretty much had an issue we're just all sweating bullets I have a theory this is an unproven theory
but I feel like someone from that protest snipped the AC line and uh and just made the politicians
feel the heat you know they're like oh you ain't
gonna do you're gonna start drilling by the amazon oh okay feel the heat and we were in a
massive tent that he's referring to like the biggest tent i think in freaking history which
ended up on fire yeah later on it was on fire jimmy was in the hall. I had left early that day.
But you remember that character, Sustainaclaws? Jimmy?
Oh, yeah.
So this guy, Sustainaclaws, has, you know, this wonderful message he takes to kids, which is his deliberate way to get to parents about sustainability.
You know, it's their future and all that. And he's gone to the last 10 cops, actually, maybe 11. I think he was in Paris. And he listed four
things about this cop that made it different than everything else. And one of them was about how
difficult it was to get there, difficult to take the heat and the conditions. There was like an impact
he saw on decision makers
by bringing the,
you know,
the future potential horrors
that we'll deal with
with heat and climate
and bring it right here
to where they were living,
which I thought was very insightful.
We got that on an interview as well.
So we'll be using that on Hubcast.
Nice. Yeah yeah lots of great
interviews coming soon and uh i thought that was very appropriate to feel the heat and then the
fire because like you know these are these are consequences from some of the decisions being
made at that event uh you know for better or worse and so or or decisions not being made is also a question right
exactly
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oh you cut out a little bit there hello can you hear me yeah yeah i can okay okay all right so
the cost so we decided to go by mk's pricing suggestion of 520 CGM for these.
But the process is pretty straightforward.
You just got to comment with a tag in the bottom right.
Typically, those that do a bunch of comments with a tag will get it.
You know, so far we're at 53. But not all of those have a tag.
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Tag a new person per comment.
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There are five people that we announced
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yesterday but just go ham today and you can always have multiple you know having a couple dot tzn names could be pretty cool like you can get your name and then you can get just like a
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quick little shout out to people who are going heavy on the comments. Shout out to MK, Legend, Sammy's been tagging.
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Monthly Earth Day tagged us.
We got to chat ASAP.
Well, come up then, bro.
Okay, I'm inviting you up, Monthly Earth Day.
Come on up.
This is where we chat.
We're building in public.
Song of Om.
I don't know. But Salma, thank you for tagging her we love song of ohm ade shout out to ade shout out
to man i love these artworks mk loving it um who else we got oh la la yeah dyko let's grind yeah
make sure you're tagging if you want that to count as an
entry oh nice immanuel also tagged 32 dream and then she came through much love today all right
so yeah monthly earth day if you can come up now great if not you got my calendar i'm pretty sure
so let's book a time all right so the foundation of of the economy is agreement.
The agreement economy is accentuating this.
How can we accentuate agreement?
How can we ensure that this prosperity really shines across the world, that people are able
to find more agreement, as that is the opposite of
conflict and also the foundation for prosperity right for everyone to to to grow what needs to
grow well you know you could go into my or our community's great ideas over the last seven years of, in the real world,
working with the conversation of, is there enough?
Which is like speaking for 5,000 hours
in more than 30 countries at this point.
And with anecdotal stories,
like somebody heard about this conversation once
and spent a whole year interviewing people
throughout Wales, where they live and making like
artwork and murals like it was like a whole you know devotion to this thing um and then came back
and told us about it a year later and there's there's multiple stories like in ghana and in
sweden and in united states and canada of anecdotes like this. And I think rather than me just going, okay, here's how to build an agreement economy,
which we believe we know some of, I wonder if we could just put the question, everybody
in the room, you know, what would an agreement economy look like?
What would be an agreement app look like?
What would be an app that never mind
crypto for a moment just the human activity where people might figure out how to make more general
agreement than they do and by the way when I ask this it sounds to my ears for the first year or
first year or so that I'm playing with this. And when I'm talking about agreement, it's agreement
so that I'm playing with this and when I'm talking about agreement it's agreement with other people
with other people. And that's definitely when we talk about cooperation and collaboration,
what we are talking about to make the world work, right? But at the same time, I don't think if I
have agreement with myself or sufficient agreement with myself, I'm going to be able to do any of
that. So when I ask about how do we make more agreement, it's more of a general field
than a specific. It's more of an intention and attitude and commitment to that than it is a
transaction. You know, where Ethereum is a grand leap, grand leap in human collaboration to put
even into the mindset that we are dealing with contracts agreement.
I can make a very good case that Bitcoin itself is a contract agreement and everybody else here can.
The whole thing works on this.
Even gold standard, the word gold standard, the word gold is not as important as the word standard.
Everything runs on agreement, which means everything changes.
And we all linger for change.
Some of us want to change to go back.
Some of us want to change to go forward.
But we're always thinking about change in one way or another.
Until we go, what's sufficiency?
What's a sufficiency economy?
Is there enough?
It's the word enough that really comes down to the first time I ever uttered the question, I actually said, isn't there enough in indignation and outrage that we weren't already doing what my great idea is? You all have your great idea. We all have our great ideas, right? We wouldn't be in this room unless we did. So that's my long-winded question, Jimmy, is what do we all think would constitute providing an environment in which people are more capable to make agreement than they were before?
Ooh la la, what a question.
Welcoming up to the stage some legends.
We got Sal.TGN. we got Drea in the house, we got Cryptomania and Daiquo up here as well. Welcome friends.
questions, some queries, some comments for our special guest, Daniel, feel free to raise
your hand. And we want to hear your POV as well. So it's interesting you talk about agreement
in a more general case, right? Like it's not just like doing deals. It's also about intention.
It's about agreement with oneself to commit or to follow through or to be something.
Is that how you would define agreement?
All of the above. And I think you've once said to me before that the things that really help us
move forward are the ands of the world more than the oars. You think about an oar, it's like this
way or this way. It's this line or that line. Those are more into the war side, right? And by
the way, I'm not a pacifist. If you attack me, I am going to defend myself to
the point of death if I have to. That's an agreement with myself, right? This is why it's
not war and peace for me. It's war and agreement, okay? So my thing about it is it's all of the
above. Even when somebody once challenged me and said, this shouldn't be called, is there enough? It should be called how to make enough. To which I went, start doing that and I'll put money behind that.
When we're talking, we're not fighting.
Even when we fight, when we talk, we're still talking.
And I definitely think there's violence in language and all of that.
I think there's time to take a break and all that, right?
But as again, a generality because change is made in the predominance in generality,
not in the specific in the exception, right?
Yeah, right.
This whole, Jimmy and I have had a lot of talks about due diligence.
Professionally, I consider myself a pretty significant student of due diligence.
You know, and in our society, we we revere that the realist in the room, because it's check and balance thing, is the devil's advocate.
balance thing is the devil's advocate. Somebody here in this room yesterday said, you know,
we love looking at the particular language, but think about what we do to glorify the devil's
advocate in our culture. Why do you think it's so hard for idea people to be able to flourish?
It's not just money. Money is a big part of it, but it's also that. Anyway anyway so it's all of the above jimmy all of the above
let's freaking grow well i think the identity plays a role here you know like when we are
putting a dot tgn in our name when we're committing to being tree gens then being a part of something
where you can you know for example get rewarded for
planting trees and prefer tree is you know fully coming to fruition as an ios and android
staff in december valentine is uh very kindly working on that in a very big way then i feel
like we're gonna create more agreements around that i mean that's maybe one way like once you're
identified once you're connected to a way to
to do that um that's an agreement you know we can also make agreement around
how can we dock the reward mechanisms around this such that ultimately trees can be more valuable
when they're alive right when they're standing than when they are cut when they are destroyed
they're standing than when they are cut, when they are destroyed, because, you know, we've lost
two trillion trees so far, trillion with a T, wiped off the face of the earth. And I think
that's largely an economical thing, right? Like if you can cut a tree and sell the charcoal or the
wood and then put food on the table, you're going to do that if you really need to and your family
starving and that's an option for you. But if it's more economical to plant trees,, you're going to do that if you really need to and your family's starving and that's an option for you.
But if it's more economical to plant trees, then you're probably going to do that, regardless
of what your perspective is around climate change.
And so the carbon markets are $950 billion per year, billion with a B, and they're growing
rapidly, right?
Growing, growing, and growing.
Yeah, they're growing rapidly, right? Growing, growing, and growing. Yeah, they're growing.
And so, but a lot of that is not really experienced
by the people on the ground for the most part.
It's, it's, we have a lot to do there.
We have a lot to do there.
And by the way, this is actually a regulation
that's happening in Brazil where 50%,
5, 0% of all of the carbon credit perose rate should go to the community based organizations if you're on community land, et cetera.
And that's our goal with the carbon credit cooperative in Brazil.
Can we can we stop and put a little highlight on what you've just brought up here when people are generally thinking of the degradation of the human race and think of a hundred years ago and the consciousness now that a state taking in revenue off of land that the people are on
like it's not even a question that there would have to be something if it wasn't 50 probably
you and i might think even more other people think less or whatever but that the people are at the
table and have to be included exactly like you just
described. I think that's a huge leap in human consciousness.
On a percent, that is a big step forward, right? Because there's been a lot of extraction. Carbon
markets have been great in a lot of ways, but then not always equitable or definitely
typically not. And then also, yeah, there's been some shenan ways, but then not always equitable or definitely typically not.
And then also, yeah, there's been some shenanigans.
But that's room for improvement.
That is changing over time.
And yeah, great to see that.
We do have a rule up here.
You got to retweet the room here.
So my bad.
We let you go up.
So you brought up, I want to to before you pass to the next uh
question please we want to hear from people from the question that i put up but i i want to say
that you said the first thing is about identity and i fully agree with that you know when i talk
about you know first agreement is with myself, right, is, you know, however you choose
to answer the question philosophers have asked since the beginning of time in religion about
who am I and why am I here? Like there's this quote attributed to Mark Twain, which turns out
he didn't write. Nobody knows who wrote it, but it's a great quote. And it goes, the two most
important days of your life are the day you're born and the day you know and the day you know why so it is about identity as an individual as an organization as a nation is whatever
and for me i am a very deliberately simplistic guy because i'm interested like i said in the
predominance more than the exception because i'm a change agent and as i see myself that's an
identity right so i either live up to that identity or not it's totally arbitrary as I see myself, that's an identity, right? So I either live up to that
identity or not. It's totally arbitrary that I see myself that way or you see yourself your way.
And the fact that it's totally arbitrary is your authority when you feel you lack authority. You
have complete authority over your life. And you are your history, which you have no authority over and you are your choices which you
have total authority over that's agreement that's really agreement as a general field is sort of a
very vague term which is frustrating and useful at the same time because it creates some
neuroplasticity for you to think for yourself with these things why isn't daniel being clear somebody might think of the
audience who would be very normal or natural like to say that there's some questions to put in front
of you for you to answer yourself so who for me who am i i am my history i can't i can't just be my choices. That's ridiculous, right?
In fact, all of us are inheritors of 70,000 years of war.
There's no way we could deny that.
We've also had 70,000 years of trying not to, like tribal councils go that far back.
But it's always this dance between both.
And the only justification that's ever been made for war is scarcity.
I'd like anybody to come up with any example where that's not true.
Like Genghis Khan to now.
It's always about scarcity.
And we are conscious enough now to know that in general, we don't have that.
The problem's coming from inside the house house it's us with each other this is what we were saying i guess i didn't say this enough when you asked me will
um this is what we were saying a cop on the jimmy can you throw that up uh the the cop 30 page of
impact launchpad in the chat there for just a quick sec. What we were saying at COP30
is what we think you and I, everybody in this room, need to begin taking some personal
responsibility for, that it's not going to happen in nature unless it happens in human nature.
Please, if it becomes who of us love nature enough to be against ourselves and for nature instead just to pledge our love for Mother Earth, we're not going to bring everybody else together who don't have that sense.
It's like, would you take somebody who you love who's autistic and doesn't have a certain sensibility for certain things that you do because of their neurodiversity and expect them to feel that?
No, you wouldn't.
You'd have compassion for them for where they are.
This is what's going on in humanity. We are neurodiverse. Some of us see love and community in the whole world, like a lot of us in this room. But it's the people who only can see
the lens through themselves. And Bucky himself said, no human being has ever seen anything outside themselves.
So we have to figure that part out.
I have no idea how I'm making a feeble attempt on my part or anybody else. But if we all got into that game of figuring that out of how do we see
our sameness before our difference, it would happen very quickly.
Buckminster Fuller, I dismissed his statement.
Like, I love everything about him, and I'm total ripoff of him
in every way that I can be in language and action
and social impact investment to affect, you know, sort of what he thought was possible.
But I actually sort of, Jimmy, I don't know if I've told you,
put him down in my head when I read, he said,
you could make the world game in 10 years if you had everything lined up.
I actually now believe that's true.
If we could get ourselves lined up,
we could make the world work in 10 years.
I don't know if we can, but it's worth asking.
Daniel, since we've been in this perpetual state
of conflict and scarcity, as long as humans have had consciousness, meaning we've been aware that we're aware, how do we shift the mindset towards a state of abundance and agreement?
Pardon me for inserting a story to make a point and answer your question very specifically.
I had a chance to ask a negotiator between IDS and Hamas just two months after November 7th,
or October 7th.
How many ways to peace do we need? Through a translator without missing a bead, he said, as many as it takes.
That's the first answer to your question.
Since we don't know how to do that, but we know we need to do that, MacGyver has to do that.
Okay, the guys in Apollo 13, they had 90 minutes. It's a great movie. If anybody hasn't seen it,
you can see the two-minute clip on isthereenough.org we consider it a source to this campaign as important as buckminster fuller um which is that they have 90
minutes on the ground to put square peg in a round hole to have the astronauts be able to do the same
thing or they're dead can you imagine i don't care how brilliant you are you have a group of the most
brilliant engineers of nasa in room for 90 minutes jimmy you talk about the four minute mile as a breakthrough
think about what this was too right in 90 minutes they figured out how to put a square peg into a
round hole and save their lives that's where humanity is right now you know john uh fuglesang
wrote a fantastic book called the Separation of Church and Hate.
I recommend everybody go out and get it for the whole world, but especially if you're American or religious or hate religion or whatever.
It's just fantastic.
He's funny as shit.
this issue of the end of the world
has been a fascination for humanity so big
that you had to create a branch of theology called eschatology.
We're in love with destruction in some way,
just like we like horror movies, really.
We got to admit the truth, folks.
This is cultural evidence.
Like, what is life but genetics and culture?
It's cultural evidence.
Just like we want to have one people fear another people so we can harm those people that we made them fear.
All these things, they're all going on and on and on in history.
So we get to the question you're asking, what do we do about it? I believe the complete solution
begins with people, not nations. That's rule number one. Can we agree on that? Any change
we make, Will, is going to have to be by people, not nations, if it's going to stick.
Okay?
Number one.
Number two, we are going to have to start building a language that searches for the language of agreement.
And whatever else we want to call it,
or anything else that we consider the opposite of conflict,
if you don't like the framing I'm throwing out or the language,
and that's why I say how many ways to peace does it take, as many as it takes.
Because we are talking about about on an individual level, changing human nature
purposely and hoping that enough other people do too, and not making it conditional on what
everybody else does. As long as it's conditional on whether everybody else does is whether I'm going to act, it will never happen for sure. So the only thing
I can do, or Jimmy is doing without calling it this, is demonstrate. Now you know, Jimmy,
I was in love with you so much from the start. It's the action of demonstration, I believe,
is the biggest answer to your question. Right. Think about it. We all
talk about economics here with such savvy in this room to understand, as Jimmy just also framed,
that if it's not going to work on the business level, it's not going to work. How many times do
we need to be proven that? You're going to go out and change people's entire hearts and intentions
and the way they frame the world and what they worry about for the next generation and all that stuff and tell them to love each other more.
That might happen in 200 or 300 years, but not in 10 or 20.
And Buckminster Fuller had an objective for the game, like Monopoly is an objective of the game to wipe everybody out.
The objective of the world game is how to make the world work for 100% of humanity.
We've said that before.
The first condition, remember, agreement is terms and conditions.
Always.
Like 100% of the time.
When a change happens, there's always terms and conditions so the condition of
the world game first is in the shortest time possible let me let me tell you how material
this is in my hands
out of nowhere i suddenly have agency over let's say, advising and influencing a very strong and probably helpful way of several billion dollars of climate finance that I wouldn't have said that three, four months ago.
I might have trouble paying a bill back then.
And suddenly I'm in that situation looking over what's possible to do.
In that situation, looking over, you know, what's possible to do.
I'm sad to report to you that things that I know about that are fantastic in the world, that would absolutely progress, like taking trash out of landfills, not just stopping them going into landfills, actually remediating them all through Europe.
And a competitor over here with a similar technology, definitely not as good,
but will knock your socks off of what we can do to clean up this planet in a short period of time.
And the one that's far better with far more capability and all of that stuff,
their talent and everything else, I can't get them funded because of their
attitude. What does this tell us, right? It isn't innovation that we have a problem with,
it's implementation, which is about cooperation, which we don't know how to do well enough,
or we wouldn't be in this problem. Why can't we just admit the truth of that and stop blaming
it on everybody else, including whether it's a nation or that party or this one
or that? It's from inside the house. So this identity thing is the first agreement ourselves.
Like, are we just an identity of individual? Now we get to that part. What are we as a team? What
are we here as a TGN? What are we here as a nation? What are we here as a humanity? And it is about you, Will, asking that question
every goddamn day until you have the answer you need. Honestly. And everybody else here in this
room, begin asking the question. Because the question you ask is your identity. It's your quest. Jimmy is like right now, it's like how many countries and can
I get to, okay, I'll just let it out here for the first possibility. Jimmy, pardon me if I step on
any toes. What have we got to 8 billion one for every person on the planet?
Let me say from understanding only recently within the last year of how powerful I mean this, that your question is your quest.
Like if you wake up in the room in the day, I've had these days where I wake up and I
go, why was I born such a sack of shit?
Those days, right? If you ask that question, guess what? Why was I born such a sack of shit those days?
Right?
If you ask that question, guess what?
Your brilliant system is going to give you an answer.
So if you want to shift, for me, if I want to shift, I would just say, I'm going to look for, am I asking the best question right now?
Particularly when I'm in a place of stuckness.
Would we agree humanity will is in a stuckness place right now all right yes that's what we need to ask we need to ask better questions i think that's on history
my longest answer to your question i'm sorry jimmy but it's really oh it's great i love it i love this
uh i love having you here on spaces man, man, because you're dropping some mad knowledge bombs from a lot of wisdom that I think everyone here can benefit from.
I do have a hard stop on the space in 13 minutes, unless y'all just want to carry it forward while I'm in another call.
But we got a lot of legends up here on stage. to hear and if you guys have some contribution to the conversation or if you have something that you want to uh speak about questions you want to ask something you want to shill or or whatever
just uh just raise your hand i see we got gleam up here we got dreya we got a lot of legends
salda tgn let's grow let's grow um so so yeah raise your hands and i will uh i will get to you
right we want to make sure that people who do that,
and I see some people requesting too.
If you just joined, make sure, first of all,
that if you want to come up, just give it a retweet, bottom right.
That is the prerequisite to coming up to this stage.
We want to welcome everyone up, but these are the rules.
And also, we're giving away five .TGNNFTs.
In my humble opinion, these are even cooler than .East.
And they last forever, and they can trade, and they get multiple airdrops.
And if you want one of those, it's one comment, one entry.
Bottom right, unlimited entry!
Which means if you really want it, you can very likely get it, right?
So you get out what you put in, baby.
you get out what you put in baby let's grow let's grow so let her rip uh drea would you please do
Let's grow, let's grow.
So let her rip.
the honors of uh shouting out some of the people who are going ham in the comment section with
these tags at first yeah i could do that oh i wrote that in the beginning because my twin sister
happened to call me and then she started just rambling on with like random stuff she's like
let me tell you about my mom.
And I'm like, that's my mom too.
And she's like, well, I know.
But right now I live with her.
So let me tell you about my mom.
I'm like, Jesus Christ.
I was like, girlfriend, I need to go.
So I'm all right.
I'm all right.
But anyways, with that being said, let me do some shout outs. Let me tell you about these shout outs.
All right.
Let me get to it.
All right. So we have Bonefly, Dekwo, oh my gosh, Arcadian.
I think I said that right.
Don't judge me.
Jakara.base.eth.
Jakara.base.eth.
Three times.
We have Chubby Chikon.
Action. Jakara.base.eth three times we have chubby chicken action
ajakara.base.eth
multiple times he's going damn hum
we have action
and you know what
I'm just going to go to
the repost everybody
in the space must be reposting
lock in my people that's the
key every single time you join the space
you must repost you can always undo it after the space closes but for you to grow you must repost to get your friends in
here so we have mike magnus the amk dot fortune arcadian um plavi dakar calive i believe or salive I believe, or Salif. Hey, it's 32, Drea Mini, and still moving 66.tgn.
Let's go, and let's grow, and make sure you like it and bookmark it.
That bookmark is basically equivalent of liking it five extra times,
which I didn't do, and I just did.
Oh, my God.
Let's go.
Yay.
Thank you so much, Drea.
Much love.
Thank you, thank you, thank you love thank you thank you thank you
thank you for supporting
our spaces thank you for shouting
out the amazing peeps that were helping us
grow
much love to you okay did I just hallucinate
or did Will T put his hand up
no I put my hand up then I opened up my mic
and it automatically went down but I was going to say
thank you Drea that was amazing
your energy is always infectious
love to have you here, as always.
And housekeeping item number two is we do have a full stage.
So if you are waiting to get up stage, please make sure you do what Drea says and repost the space at a bare minimum.
It's just common courtesy when you come into someone's space to share it out with your network because we all know that your network is your net worth and uh jimmy i'd love to keep space growing after the top of the
hour but i've got a meeting too and i feel that's why gleam was in here to remind me of the meeting
that i have with gleam immediately following this space so uh yeah let's grow oh you're meeting
gleam that is dope amazing uh for those of you who don't know, you can not only be earning about 7% APY when you stake Salami, Sal wallet if you have solana you click on it you click stake and the top one and then you type gleam bam and you're you're making impact
while you're getting an apy might as well right um tgn you can get 42 apy and we've been out
performing salami in the last while so yeah not financial advice but uh impact advice all right
tgn is the currency of the tree economy.
You can already use it to buy the most innovative NFT ever.
Our dynamic NFT agents through the link tree.
You'll also soon be able to use it to buy .TGN NFTs and video NFTs.
When anyone plants any different type of tree, that becomes a video NFT, which you can use TGN to buy.
And 95% of that sale goes directly to the planters and 5% to the verifiers.
All right.
So that means when you're staking TGN, you're not just going to be earning this 42% APY.
You're also going to be earning 5% of all the ecological credits that we bring on train.
earning 5% of all the ecological credits that we bring on train.
Whether that's the tokenization of mangrove trees, the fungible tokens, the liquid tokens,
or if it's for the NFTs, which we also have a budget to buy with 50% of our profile picture,
the dynamic NFT agents.
50% of those sales do go towards the tree planters as well.
So let's freaking grow.
Great to see some amazing people up here sauda tdn an amazing
spaces host the rea the the queen of spaces we got uh arcadian here as well much love much love
melanin ciao everybody let's grow i don't know if i start calling on people or if people have
already raised their hands sometimes spaces is buggy about that. But yeah, I'd love to hear from you guys.
So whoever wants to chime in, please do.
We got six minutes on the clock
till I got to end the spaces.
Oh, you know what?
I want to do this giveaway before the space ends
because I always have a bajillion things to do
and I get a little caught up
and I don't want to do that.
So I'm going to do a random number generator,
start announcing the winners.
While I do that
Uh, arcadian you're going home with the emojis. Why don't you chime in here? Uh, anything you want to
Promote or your questions or
Comments or you want to tell us your life story or you know, your your last romantic experience
What?
Yeah, just just bro. What you got? What you got what you got oh dude what my last romantic experience was
ah wow okay okay dude fast dude fast um but i tell you what okay so my choices
yeah you you know what you know where i'm at, right? It's one of those time of days. All right
I mean, it's it's lovely to be in the space. I'm i'm sorry. I'm a little bit late
Uh, I had a team meeting going on and then I was telling the team. I'm like guys. There's a space
We need to get into the space. Okay. Great to have you here, bro
Yeah, so uh
All right, let me let me let me let me do a shill okay but uh for those of anybody
listening and they don't not quite sure what's going on here um tree gens has a regenerative
uh platform that in the long term is not only going to well make money in a very genius way
but um also has some cool people around it, like Will T with KF Media.
He's got a learning platform he's been putting together,
which is mind-blowing to say the least.
And, you know, there's just so much going on in the room
that you don't know about.
You don't, you know, we don't know that 32 Dreams is an artist.
We don't know that KF Media has a learning platform.
We know that Shiny's got an NFT.
Who else is in the room?
God, there's a lot of new people here, Tregenz.
We know Mr. Remedy is a...
Yeah, we know Mr. Remedy runs an electrical company out in Nigeria.
He's a business strategist, and he's also qualified in physics,
which is kind of cool.
That's my shill, bro. Look, I wanted to come in and connect of cool um that's my shill bro look i just i wanted to come
in and connect with the value that's already here um we're building some value that can bolt on to
stuff like uh on onto stuff like this and we would like to make an allocation especially for the
eco society um within what we're doing so i think uh i don't know sent over a document over to dreams
not sure if she's uh she's read
that will t i'm gonna send it over to you yeah um and then you can uh and then you can see if you
want to get over to tree gens um but yeah like i think we're all in the same i think we're all in
the same boat and we're feeling like we know there's a storm coming we know this is like the
you know the last of of the crazy parts.
And what comes next is going to be, it's an era of peace.
And we need to get positioned like really, really well.
We need to get stuck in.
We need to, we're in the trenches, but right now we need to make those trenches solid,
solidified and a bit luxurious too.
And yeah, and chubby chickens also there.
Haven't forgot about you, bro.
Don't forget about anyone. It's just our networks are so
Vastly confusing right now
So I'm just trying to figure it out like anybody else
Um and shout out to everybody else You better figure that out. You can't be trying to you know run shit and be confused on who you're going to have around you.
You know what I mean?
Get a secretary.
Dude, you're saying the truth, right?
There's a reason that a bus has 30 seats and a Lambo's got two.
Dude, I love the way I asked, hey, what do you want to still?
And you just went into a show about three jams and all this.
Okay, we now have a lot of requests.
So here's what we're going to do.
Last one to raise their hand gets dropped.
All right.
Raise your hand.
I'll step down.
You know,
this is,
this is,
this is,
this is,
this is,
this is,
this is,
this is,
this is,
this is,
this is,
this is,
I just wanted to,
What's that?
Yeah,
go ahead.
Oh yeah.
I just wanted to,
I just wanted to throw in one thing,
all of us to, to demonstrate for ourselves, ourselves right how many ways is it going to take
we got to have people out there doing what we think are dumb stuff for the good stuff to exist
too right it's really about how do we get a lot more things out the gate how do we make it safer
to actually put experiments out there? Because
that's what's going to make that next stage come. This is all I'm saying. We got to tolerate each
other. Let's grow. Much love. Much love. Such a pleasure. What an honor it is to have Daniel up
here, to have Drea up here, to have Wilty up here, to have Pisa up here, to have Arcadian up here to have dreya up here to have will t up here to have peace up here to have arcady
arcadian up here to have cryptomania up here dyquo up here action up here melanin up hit liver
okay i want to let i want to let scorpion.tgn as well scorpio got his .tgn nft my bro manifested
that put it in before he even won it and then he won it okay i've announced two
winners so far up in the up in the jumbo garden shoot and i got one minute till i gotta rug the
spaces i really want oh man okay all right you know what i'm probably gonna have to announce
the rest after but don't worry i will announce all of today's winners and yesterday's winners. Okay, keep that in mind.
Okay, and this gives you a little extra time to one tag, one entry.
Keep in mind, this is not an airdrop, okay?
This is a free mint, okay?
I'm green listing you for a free mint.
You got to put whatever name, like you could put chubby.tgn.
Chubbychicken.tgn if you wanted, right?
Or you could put maybe just chicken.tgn.
You know what I mean? gotta customize this people like oh i'm looking i haven't seen my nft yet it's like bro you gotta
mint it it's a thing you you make this nft yourself all right i can't you can take the what
take the horse to the water you can't make it i don't know what the expression whatever
yeah all right make the horse drink the water okay all right i
love you guys very much thank you all for coming through it means a lot to y'all were here you
know you could have been anywhere in the world right now but you pulled up to the tgn is there
enough still chilling give away spaces i love you all so so so much from the bottom of my green
little heart uh thank you thank you thank you thank you tomorrow you know what we might even
be broadcasting uh this refight to loom event that is happening we're planting some manglades
we are doing some uh some your boy's giving a speech we're onboarding people live it's gonna
be great it's gonna be great so stay tuned for that cool cool we could do a lot to support you on that. I am not as native on X. If anybody
listening to me right now wants to explore anything that we talked about here today,
like a little after party or whatever, I am around for about an hour. And you guys could
just invite me to something and I'd show up. All right. My boy. My guy. What do I say? My man.
There we go.
That's better.
All right.
My man.
All right.
Everyone, hit up Daniel.
Follow everyone.
Follow every single person on the spaces, okay?
Everyone, leave no PST behind.
I'm doing it.
I'm doing it.
Even Peter at the end there.
Even Peter.
Okay.
Very good.
How about?
Sorry, bro.
You got, bro.
Okay.
Yeah. I got everyone. Mimi, got you everyone mimi got you laurent got you hey i'm senior got you all right
we got everyone we got everyone okay everyone do it follow everybody see last chance till next
time friends keep doing what you love keep spreading love and making impact. Peace.
