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$TGN MEGA SPACE - Giveaway 🌱💸
Recorded: Aug. 4, 2025 Duration: 4:26:58Space Recording
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Let's go.
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But we had one more important sound. But we had one more important sound we wanted you to hear. Let's grow. Good evening, citizens of Earth, or any other planet in the solar system.
Your mission, if you decide to accept it.
Are we ready to blast off? Thank you. I feel like I wanna get down, get down Here we go. Once upon a time, there were beings who wanted to create something.
These beings carefully guarded an aspect of consciousness called light.
At different times, these guardians of light met and worked together in the different realms of reality.
And they designed a time when their plan would go into effect.
These beings are you, and that time is now.
And each of you knows in the deepest portions of your being
that you have come here for a purpose.
You are beginning to feel what may be coming.
Hello and welcome everybody to the Maxim Pax Show of the TGN Megaspace.
This is the live spaces show that is all about empowering you, the change makers, to maximize your positive impact in the world by leveraging the latest and greatest technologies.
With me today is an absolute legend of Web3.
All right, Griff is not only one of the people who led Token Engineering Commons and co-founded
the quadratic acceleration that is changing the game for QF and their token launches,
but also Giveth, which helped raise millions of dollars for good causes. Pairwise, it's helping with democracy and voting on chain and Dapnode
and Unicorn.E for safe wallets and General Magic for nice user interfaces,
White Hat Group.
I mean, the legend literally helped save the first ever DAO once it got hacked.
And I'm super grateful to have him as an advisor and person
that is able to help us in a variety of different
ways over at TreeGen. So I'm super grateful, Griff. Thank you so much for coming through.
I really appreciate your time. Let's grow, let's grow, let's grow. How are you doing?
What an intro. My God. Wow. Thank you. I'm doing great. I'm doing pretty well. Just,
you know, another day online, just fighting the Twitter wars and, you know, playing with crypto.
But it's always nice to be in crypto during a little bit of a bull market.
So life is good.
Absolutely.
Well, you know the tradition we have here, Griff, and that's to always, always start with why.
I mean, you've done so many different things in Web3.
What motivates you?
What gets you out of bed in the morning if you try to pinpoint it to one thing?
Yeah, I mean, I want to build something better than governments. I know we can do better
than governments. And we need to figure out how to coordinate around public goods and coordinate
around resources that matter to society in a way that doesn't only benefit people who create
scarcity. You know, we need to figure out how do we find,
how do we reward people for creating abundance?
And that's why I do this for sure every day.
Reward people for creating abundance, yes.
That is one of the great use cases of Web3.
It does allow us to growordinate, as we say over here,
growordinate a lot of things,
and DAOs are definitely a component of that.
I want you to take us back to those early days of the DAO, the first ever DAO.
I think Ethereum Foundation launched this and raised over $100 million, $150 million or something like that.
And then, of course, that was an attack vector.
People tried to come through and steal it.
And you're one of the people, the white hackers who helped save the day.
So what happened exactly?
And what was that like?
I mean, first of all, as a community manager for that, and then seeing, oh, shit, there's
people who are trying to hack this to then go in.
And how do people even go in and try to salvage the situation?
Like, take us back to tell that story so that people can kind of understand what the first
ever DAO was like and some of the challenges that you helped push through and solve ultimately.
Man, there's so much there.
I mean, Ethereum's white paper mentioned DAOs, Vitalik, one of the main uses cases of the
Ethereum blockchain was always stated to be DAOs.
And so the DAO kind of came up with some major players in the,
in the DAOs,
in the Ethereum space supporting it.
And we,
we started in 2015 and we were working on it for probably about a year before we
launched. And during that year, we were growing and growing in popularity and it kind of became
the shelling point for Ethereum. Everybody in Ethereum was hanging out in the DAO Slack,
everything in Ethereum. And really most of crypto those days were on Reddit and Slack.
And the DAO was the biggest thing in crypto at the time.
And so when we launched, we launched it in this way where you could split the DAO.
So if you put money into the DAO token creation event,
you could then, you would get DAO tokens,
which then you could actually go through the DAO
and basically burn those tokens for new DAO tokens
and move all of the ETH that your DAO tokens represent
into a new mini DAO.
And so the idea of the DAO was,
hey, we can gro- groordinate as you say uh
groordinate how do you say that row ordinate yeah just replace grow ordinate thank you
that one was the new one yeah so you can grow ordinate uh with the people in the dao but you
have the right to exit you can take all all of the ETH and all of the shares
of like previous investments that the DAO made
and move it into your own mini DAO.
We call them child DAOs.
And this made like, it felt like,
first off, it was the coolest thing in crypto in 2016
and everyone wanted to be a part of it and then with that functionality
it was basically like well i can't lose you know we put our ether in and then if i don't like it i
can take the ether out so we ended up raising 14 of all ether in existence this is uh this at the
time that was only 150 million dollars now it would be some ridiculous
billions of dollars but we raised 14 of all ether in existence and then right away once the
fundraise was over um there was a whole group of people that said hey the dow is too big to fail
like we need a we need a moratorium.
We need to stop this.
This is like crazy.
And they're right.
Like it was crazy.
Solidity was only eight months old.
The programming language we were writing these contracts in are eight months old.
There was no such thing as a smart contract audit at that time.
There were software audits and we had the same people that audited like the geth node
right to audit our smart contracts for the dow but that industry didn't even exist and and so
there was actually a um like documentation on how to do a certain thing on ethereum how to make a external call it's a little
complicated but how to do this thing called an external call where you like say hey this contract
talks to this contract and then it does this right well in that documentation it was actually written
wrong and so the people who made that documentation reached out to us when they realized that it could be an issue
and we looked at it and we're like and and even even vitalik looked at it like everyone looked
at it you know 14 of all ether in existence were in this contract and no one could figure out a
way to exploit it so we felt like it was okay but we were all wrong because it's all open source and anyone in
the world can can be testing these things this this uh we call them the dark hat uh the dark
hat hacker or i guess we call him dark dow and he because he launched the, but the dark hat hacker, uh, he ended up, um, finding an exploit and
maybe it's them.
But, uh, although Laura Shin does say that it's this one specific guy, uh, Toby.ai is
the person who is most likely to be the person.
I really don't know who did it, but they were able to, um, write a contract that was even more complicated than the DAO contract itself to hack the DAO.
And what they did is basically they put DAO tokens in that contract, then called the split DAO function and took the Ether out into a DAO, into a child DAO,
but then tricked the contract to not burn the DAO tokens.
So then they were able to continue using the same DAO tokens over and over again
to pull ether out of the DAO into a child DAO,
but without burning their DAO tokens. So they're just siphoning money out of the dow into a child dow but without burning their dow tokens so they're just
siphoning money out of the dow and there were lots of bugs in the dow and actually some of the bugs
even interacted with each other and they broke the original dow hackers um contract and he was only able to steal about a third of the DAO. And so at that time, I actually
woke up and was the first person on Slocket to find out that this happened. I was in,
Slocket was me, Leftheris, Simon and Christoph Jens, and Stephan Twal. There were just five of us who built the DAO.
And when I was talking to the community
and they were saying,
hey, something's wrong with Etherscan.
It's not showing the right amount of DAO,
Ether in the DAO.
Etherscan wasn't the problem.
It was the DAO hacker. That was the
problem. So we, you know, I was looking at ether scan and be like, Oh no, this is bad. And so
I was actually in Christoph and Simon's mom's house, uh, in Germany, Mitweida, Germany. And,
uh, you know, it was calling left terrace, calling Stefan, calling Simon, calling Christoph. I
finally got ahold of Simon and left terrace and, you know, Simon actually, I think, went over to, I can't remember
exactly how it went, but he somehow got a hold of his brother. We all went to their mom's house
and turned that into the war room. And we tried to figure out what to do. And once, you know, Stefan and Kristoff
were more connected to the Ethereum community,
so they were kind of on the political side.
Instantly, we got a meeting with Vitalik
to kind of figure out what to do.
The hard fork came up and we're like,
yes, that's the best way to do it.
If we can, because unlike most hacks where hackers steal the money, it's in their wallet and they
can just take it to an exchange. In this hack, all of the money that was stolen from the DAO
was siphoned into another DAO and that money couldn't be moved for 35 days. For 35 days,
it was going to be in that address. So a hard fork to actually take the money, it's not,
a lot of people say the hard fork actually did a, what do they call it, like a reverse the hack,
but it didn't really reverse the hack or roll back ethereum what it did was it made an irregular
state transition where we said hey it's money that's supposed to be locked in the dow let's
update our nodes to say that it's not so we'll update the actual programs the computer programs
that are running the ethereum and we'll say, if any ether that is at this address,
let's put it in that address. And then, um, and yeah. And so the effort on one side was let's get the hard fork going on the other
side was me and left terrace.
And we recruited my friend, Jordy, who was actually, uh, um,
at the time I never met him,
but he was working on liquid democracy
for the DAO and was very familiar with the DAO code. And I had, in fact, been talking with him
the day before to write a blog post about how he's making liquid democracy for the DAO, like
liquid delegation. Very cool. And so I called him up. called up everyone i mean i told everyone hey we
need help you know and there was a lot of coordinate uh grow grow ordination going on
and uh you know between like thousands of people all over the world were actually helping us
uh hack the hacker and figure out how to get the money back. And so within about probably 12 hours of the initial hack,
both Left Terrace and Jordy recreated the contracts that we would need to hack the DAO.
And so we started a war room and we brought in Alex Van der Sand and Fabian Volschweiger,
who they were the wallet creators of
mist, the main wallet at the time.
This was before MetaMask existed.
Uh, it was like basically mist and my ether wallet.
Those are the only wallets anyone ever used.
And then, uh, we, we formed what we called the Robin hood group.
And our goal was to take money,
rescue all the money in the DAO.
But we were really scared.
Like, okay, we recreated the hack.
But how do we make it work faster?
We needed more DAO tokens.
So even though we could have hacked the DAO right away
and tried to take the rest of the money,
we wanted more time.
We wanted to practice.
No one else
had started hacking the DAO yet. So we were like, let's just wait a little bit. And so we played
war games on test nets with the DAO and started like practice hacking the DAO. Jordy and Left
Terrace especially were just hacking the DAO over and over again, trying to get their contracts better. And me and Alex Van de San kind of went out and tried to get more money
because the more DAO tokens you have, the faster you can hack the DAO.
Because if you have 10 tokens or if you have 100 tokens and you attack the DAO,
then every block you can take one Ether.
But if you have 100,000 tokens, then every block you can take 1,000 Ether, right?
So we went on the hunt to collect DAO tokens and also lots of other things,
just like keys for curator addresses.
There's lots of details here.
And if you really want to know this story,
you can go to Laura Shin's book.
She has the best recounting of the story.
It's called The Cryptopians.
Very well cited.
Really great book.
And so then we went to attack the DAO
and we actually had like a gas error. We actually pushed the button to
attack the DAO and rescue all the funds. We had a gas error and then we thought about it and we're
like, maybe we shouldn't do this yet. And there were a couple of reasons for that. Number one,
if we did hack all the DAO token, DAO money out, and we like rescue all the
funds, then maybe the hard fork isn't needed. Maybe all the DAO token holders just get 70%
of their money back. The DAO hacker runs off with all the money and that's the end of the story.
But we didn't want that. I actually really wanted the hard fork. We were basically plan B.
So we waited to kind of make it a little messier, basically,
in some ways, at least that was my personal opinion that we wanted to, if we let someone
else hack the DAO first, number one, that makes us like, now we're reacting to someone else doing
something bad to help, not just hacking the DAO and stealing all the money which in many places
would just be illegal in itself even if we give it back uh and then also it's just being reactive
in that way um makes things a little messier a little less clean and the cleanest thing is then
we can keep all the motivation towards doing the hard fork. And so then, yeah, then someone started hacking the DAO.
So then we started hacking the DAO.
And actually, eight other hackers also hacked the DAO.
So there were like at least 10 DAO hackers or 11 DAO hackers all hacking the DAO at the same time.
We called it DAO Wars.
But we were, yeah, we were uh by far the best resourced
and had the best contracts so we took nearly all of the funds in our contracts and then we were
yeah and so then we had about 10 of all ether in existence in our contracts and uh we were like
what's going to happen with this hard fork and luckily we kept
pushing we ended up getting the hard fork it happened and then to our surprise though even
though the hard fork went off without without a hitch and all the ether was taken from us
and the other DAO token holders or the other like DAOs that held ether, they all, all the ether from any
DAO that came out of the DAO was actually taken up and put into a withdrawal contract
where people with DAO tokens could then send their DAO tokens to contract and get ether
back.
There's, that is still happening to this day.
I help people sadly all the time, still 10 years later i'm still helping people get dow
tokens out of the dow um but then something really interesting happened because this by the way is
2016 this is before bitcoin cash this is before any other serious hard forks in the crypto space uh the the fact is that it most people in ethereum upgraded their clients
to basically agree that the dow hacker that when you updated your node for the dow hard fork you're
basically saying hey it in my version of ethereum i the DAO hacker to have their money stolen and all the money from the DAO to go into this withdrawal contract so DAO token holders can get their money back.
But the old software that was out there still exists, of course, where the DAO hacker has money.
And so that version of there still exists of course where the dow hacker has money and so that version of ethereum still existed and a bunch of bitcoiners and i i i promise you this is true uh a bunch of
bitcoiners coordinated grow ordinated or maybe this isn't really grow ordination so i'll just
say coordinated to get the old version of ethereum back up where the hacker still had their funds
and it was really interesting because there's nothing like this had ever happened but we all
we knew it was theoretically possible that the old version of the ethereum software could still be
used and they dubbed it ether classic and there there was an exchange
this exchange i guess still exists it's called poloniex it was one of the major exchanges at the
time it was owned by uh this bitcoin maxi guy named barry silbert who um he's less of a bitcoin
maxi these days but he runs dcg and has he's had a few other sketchy things happen in his
name. Well, ETC all of a sudden one day was just listed as a token. And so what that meant was that
anyone who had Ether before the hard fork also had Ether Classic.
And the only difference between Ethereum and Ether Classic
was affected as far as state,
as far as like who owned Ether and who owned Ether Classic,
was that the DAO hacker had a bunch of Ether Classic.
And also we had 10% of all Ether Classic in existence
in our contracts as well.
And so now, all of a sudden,
what we thought was over, wasn't over.
And we had to go back to work
because now we had to hack all the hackers
and try to figure out how to stop the big hacker
from getting his ETC.
And so we started attacking, but it was too late.
It was too late to stop the biggest hacker, the dark DAO.
They had, we missed the timelines, basically.
They were able to start a new DAO and move on.
But we were able to hack all the other smaller DAO
hackers and uh we basically took over all of their DAOs and and uh got all the ether classics so
to the point where it was just the main the original DAO hacker had his funds and then the
white hat group because after after a certain point, Alex Van
De Sand and Fabian and a few other people that were with us, they decided that once the money
came out of the Dow, they didn't want to have to deal with giving it back. Because honestly,
hacking money and stealing money is so much easier than giving it back. Always. Every time.
Whenever, when we've, and we've done this, the White Hat Group was doing this many times.
And it's always so complicated to just give money back to people.
And the DAO was no, was, was no, was, was no exemption of that rule.
So once we had all the etc then we created a withdraw
contract i mean long story short we created a withdraw contract so that anyone who had dow
tokens at the time of the hard fork was also able to get etc on the ether classic chain
ethereum classic chain and it was really weird to me that Ethereum Classic had any value at all.
Because why?
Why would Ethereum Classic?
Everyone was following the Ethereum Foundation and all the exchanges.
Everyone was supporting Ethereum.
Everyone wanted to develop on Ethereum.
People were ideologically supportive in some circumstances to Ethereum Classic, but who's going to buy Ether Classic? There's all these people to sell. There's very few people to buy, in my opinion, organically.
There were people who wanted to buy it.
And I'm pretty confident it was Bitcoiners who kind of wanted to sabotage Ethereum or cause chaos in Ethereum.
And so Ether Classic survived.
And it was really interesting because I think the Ethereum Foundation was able to sell Ether Classic for about a year and a half without having to sell any Ether.
And it really helped the Ethereum Foundation because they had, like we're talking Ether got
down to about $6 and they would have been having to sell lots of Ether. But instead, they're able
to just keep selling their Ether Classic until Ether got back well above $20 and was all-time highs compared to during the DAO days.
So that really helped the Ethereum Foundation and really helped everyone in Ethereum in a way because it was just free money to everybody who held Ether.
In fact, the DAO hack is the only hack I've ever heard of
where everybody won.
Everyone made money.
The hacker made money.
They had all this ETC, which they cashed out over the years.
Everyone in Ethereum won.
All the DAO token holders, they got all of their ether back
plus 70% of the ETC that their ether would have represented.
I mean, just like it was a, it's a really crazy thing that happened.
I'll be honest.
It's definitely the craziest thing that ever happened to me.
Wow.
This is like straight out of a movie, man.
You got the dark down and the good hackers saving saving the day and that's so cool that there are
silver linings of that and that everyone was able to win uh we got will.tgn up here what's
going on will you got a question i do i do because i've actually met griff we actually
vibed a little bit at showing point east denver 2025 he was so excited to show me the rainbow wallet
um so my question for you grip is a lot of people categorize you as a serial entrepreneur in this
space do you identify as such entrepreneur i mean if i'm an entrepreneur i suck um i I would say I identify more as a serial nonprofit crypto founder.
I could be a, if I were an entrepreneur, the metrics aren't good.
Okay.
But I build nonprofits.
Impact metrics off the chart, though.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Off the chart.
Okay, fair enough. My follow-up question is, how has that benefited you, let's say, in the last two years of being the founder of so many entities or organizations?
I mean, I think the biggest thing is, and I don't know that the number of organizations or anything helps me, but just being, I'd say just like trust over time has been huge for me and i
think it's i think it really derives from the dow hack and just how he handled that as well as you
know we rescued so much money in 20 2016 to 2020 to 28 sorry 2016 to 2018 the white hat group ended
up being like the, currently they call it
seal 911. There's this other organization, but we were kind of the group that everyone called when
there were problems or hacks because everyone knew they could trust us. So we rescued hundreds
of millions of dollars over that two year span. And so, uh, uh, I think really a lot of the things that I wouldn't say I've gotten so much out of the last like four years of being a nonprofit crypto founder as much as just still riding the trust that I have earned basically from those previous years.
those previous years. Love that. Yeah. You know, I want to quickly express some gratitude too,
Love that.
because when I was at ECC, I saw Vitalik get up on stage and he was saying something to the tune
of, you know, it's all well and good to have a whole bunch of audits on your smart contracts.
But, you know, if you're not giving proper attention to the server, for example, or the UI,
you know, that's like having a steel door with a hay hut, you know.
And right around this time, we were setting up the server for our two-tiered referral
system on the launchpad that we built.
And I was like literally setting it up that day.
And I was like, and thank goodness, I was like, Griff, like, could I get another pair
of eyeballs here just to make sure like things are all good? And then you connected us with Mo, and, like, could I get another pair of eyeballs here just to make sure, like, things are all good?
And then you connected us with Mo, and then Mo really helped set up our kind of security for the server in a really thoughtful way.
And I'm just super grateful that you were able to give that support, Griff.
So thank you so much.
You know, that's super crucial.
Like, if anything happened to our pre-sale funds, that could be, you know, it was great that you were able to, you know, still make the most of it
and everyone won in the case of the DAO. But, you know, if a DAO launches today and loses their
pre-sale funds, you know, that very well could be game over. I, of course, would never give up,
but that would really, really suck. And so just to make sure that we had that really secure and
dialed in was a big thing for us. So thank you again for that, Griff.
So I would love to pick your brain a little bit,
you know, as we're about to launch the TreeGens DAO.
So there are so many different kind of DAO management platforms and some of the DAOs become a bit more centralized
or aren't really to the initial intention of how they started.
What are some tips of how you would recommend setting up a DAO for success? You know, just if you go to the initial intention of how they started. What are some tips of how you would recommend
setting up a DAO for success?
You know, just if you go to the basic stuff,
do you think like Tally's good?
Do you think like Conviction Voting Gardens
is the way to grow for tree gens?
Or how should we be really setting this up
so that it can have a lot of participation
and ultimately thrive long-term?
Yeah, you know, it's really tough.
Oh, sorry.
Because I think the best practices have been found
that it's like grow or donation
is really difficult in practice.
And that especially as a small startup,
you just don't have that much resources
from energy from people, critical people. And so you need to stay nimble and have like really
quick decisions over a lot of things. And then, you know, over some things that are really critical
and should never change, you you know those decisions should happen slowly
and there's this other really great article uh there's other so there's like decisions that should be able to happen fast and decisions that should be able to happen slowly or like really
should happen slowly and then there's also this idea of like concave versus convex decisions so
you can check one of my favorite blog posts from vitalik where he
really dives into that concept and there it's kind of like there's certain decisions that
it makes sense for a lot of people to um participate where the wisdom of the crowds
will make sense and there's certain decisions where like for instance you know the the color
of a website like what what what colors do we want
to make this this uh you know this logo on the website right those those things are often better
made by people with deep context that know everything else that's going on and um are in
the right place to make that decision and And so there's kind of these two dimensions
that you have to consider when you're starting up a DAO.
What decisions should be made by individual people
who have the context and can make fast decisions?
And what decisions should be made slowly
and can benefit from the wisdom of the crowds.
And I think that's really what you want to set up.
You know, for the most part, starting small, unless you have, you know, like dozens of millions of dollars or even at least at least five million dollars sitting around
uh like in multi-sigs and stuff then maybe you should really you could consider doing like
tally or agora or some of the on-chain governance but if you have less than that i i generally just
recommend snapshot and a multi-sig that is trusted because it's just too too hard to do all the on-chain
stuff and if you're that small you're still hungry you need to grow and grow and grow and so you
should be able to do nimble be nimble and maybe you maybe new tools will come out soon that are
even better for governance. Maybe, yeah.
So when you start out with multi-sigs and snapshot,
then you kind of leave your options open.
So as much as I love gardens and I, you know,
it was really a huge proponent of conviction voting early on.
And I really, I love all these complex DAO governance systems.
For the most part, just like make sure that your category, you know, doing a good job at stating clearly what decisions are best will benefit from the wisdom of the crowds.
And it's okay if they happen slowly.
Then you can put that in the context of a DAO and for decisions that need to happen fast and can benefit from deep understanding and context,
then you put that in the hands of usually
what they call labs team or something like that.
And I think snapshot and a multi-sig ends up working great.
Got you.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense to be nimble and then also benefit from
wisdom of a crowd it's kind of like a dual voting system hey kind of like how
optimism does it yeah pretty much and and like optimism does on chain
governance because man they're governing a lot of value you know so it makes sense to do everything to the t
and to be locked into you know in a specific on-chain governance because you have enough
to protect that it's worth it um for for five million dollars or less though i think it's just
like it's multi-sigs are safe enough you know you're not gonna if there is a for instance a problem
with tally or agora you know they're not gonna care about you you know they're just not like
don't get me wrong they're great uh i love those teams uh aragon is another great option really
love what they've been building lately lately really great dial software but you know
it's just good to stay nimble when you're small
makes sense
makes sense
you had your hand up first
did you want to still chime in here
or you put it down for a reason
I put it down because Griff answered my question already
oh we did okay amazing
alright song of home high five. How you doing?
Good morning, everybody. I'm doing well.
Griff, I have heard about you for a long time now.
This is the first time I'm in a space with you,
with you and just want to say thank you for all the good work that you're doing.
and I just want to say thank you for all the good work that you're doing.
It's extremely inspiring what we can do with our energy when it's in the right direction and space
in mind. I think it's miraculous also that you were able to retrieve and help that DAO. That was, that's just an epic story.
And I just wanted to give my gratitude and grateful to see that you've been
helping Jimmy and the tree gens.
It means a lot.
Beautiful.
No, wow.
Thanks.
I'm so sorry.
I always thought you would
throw a question out there
no just some appreciation
and gratitude I wanted to share
I didn't really have a question
because everything that you were sharing
just made a lot of sense
and if I do have a question in the future
I'll ask but not right now
I just wanted to say thanks
thanks a lot love question in the future I'll ask, but not right now. I just wanted to say thanks.
Thanks a lot.
Love is in the air.
All right.
Chill was trying to write down the name of that book.
Could you remind it?
And this is straight out of a movie.
I want to read it too.
What was it called again?
The Cryptopians by Laura Shin. And there's a few books that go through the dow but the cryptopians from laura shin she was
like she only put something in the book if she was able to get the exact same thing from two different
sources from two people you know or it was on chain and i actually spent like maybe eight hours
with her going through all the ether scan transactions from the
Dow and telling her what each one did and how she really did some insane due diligence. And
there are other really great books that are very entertaining, but they took a little bit more
liberties with the truth. Like the Cryptopians was, I mean, the truth is dramatic enough is what I got to say.
And it's not just about the Dow. It's about Ethereum. A lot of it's about the Dow, but
it was about Ethereum early days and how it developed into, you know, what it is today.
Yeah, it really laid the foundation for pretty much everything in crypto, right?
I mean, created the framework for other token economies to be launched and other DAOs to
be launched.
And so without those early beginnings, no one in crypto would be here today other than
Bitcoin.
So yeah, no, it's really interesting how much ethereum influenced you know like
i remember looking at the tron has their own token standard and they call it the trc20 token
standard you know and like erc20 is it was just the 20th issue in in in that you know github repo
that's why it was called erc20 but tron trc20 you know they're just
like saying oh we're just going to copy ethereum you know i even saw this on uh man what was it was
it sui i can't remember which other newer blockchain they have they have 721 nfts you know
and it's like they're just using our standards uh because ethereum's really been
influential for all the cool stuff you want to do in crypto like anything cool you want to do in
crypto it's it's been battled it's it is being battle tested in the ethereum ecosystem there's
i have to say there's very few uh innovations coming out of other ecosystems
at least battle-tested innovations there's lots of cool things happening in other places for sure but
the the standards and and really the open source like the the the vibes in in ethereum kind of
in Ethereum kind of create this space
where really amazing things can grow out of it.
And professional, well understood
and well thought through processes and techniques
like technology basically.
Flash loans for instance,
or lending through Aave. These very core primitives,
they're all coming from Ethereum. Yeah. Very, very cool. And just being around an ETH conference,
too, you really get to see all the passion and the spark in people's eyes as they're building
on top of all these things.
It's really cool.
I think there's so many, so many incredible builders in the ETH space.
So I remember last interview that we did, and I'm so grateful you've come through here a couple times and dropped all this wisdom on us. One of the things that in the early days of the Give Token that led to the billion dollar market cap was the high staking rewards in those early days.
And, you know, you're saying as well, though, to caveat that like for long term, maybe having not such a high staking reward is ideal.
Could you give some advice around staking rewards for tree gens knowing that hey okay we're going
to be giving more of tgn when people stake they're also going to be able to earn mgros so ecological
credits by being a verifier in the proof of tree protocol when tgn is staked right so they're
actually going to be earning multiple tokens but what do you think is a sustainable tgn reward
percentage what would you recommend for that and any platforms that you think we should go to for those staking functionalities man i almost want to like go to the drawing go to the
research but like start talking to chat gpt and get some ideas because honestly i feel like
there's a lot of people doing really cool stuff around staking rewards and a lot of interesting innovations and
i i feel like if i recommended something i would i would want to do a little bit of research first
because there you know um yeah there's just been like i what i can say from the social side for
designing this and and maybe for some context like when giveth when the giveth
token launched it was the end of 2021 uh and we were we were uh coming off defy summer and yield
farming and crazy like yams and and you know all the food farms and that was kind of the dominant
you know, all the food farms. And that was kind of the dominant, like way to launch a token at the
time. And so we had this system that would actually give insane APRs because 90% of the
tokens that we were even giving as the APR were locked. And so we did this five year stream,
and so we did this five-year stream which we are now almost like I think we're three and a half
years through it it'll be four years in December and yeah I didn't it it wasn't the right design
it was uh you know we're all experimenting and I can say that we made a mistake in that design
uh because we didn't we airdropped a bunch of tokens but
people weren't really selling them but people were buying them and the price went ridiculous it was
also just the top of the market so everything was so frothy and the give token went to a dollar
and which gave it a billion dollar market cap which was kind of just too high um and so
so yeah um but there was no way to short it there was like only only you know we only gave the
airdrop to people who were like really positive influences in the space and they didn't want to
sell it so it yeah it just got to that way because there wasn't that. And then there was all this incentive because, hey, you can buy, give, stake it and earn 1,000 or 1,500 APR.
And so it's like, how can you not, right?
Especially we were trying to get liquidity.
And so people would buy, give, pair it with XI, and then put it out as a liquidity pool.
So that was the mistake, though, because now, you know, you look at the chart and you're like, oh, my God, give tokens price has just been plummeting.
Well, I never really should have been that high in the first place.
So, but these days, there are lots of really interesting solutions for staking.
These days, there are lots of really interesting solutions for staking.
And, you know, I'm really excited about, especially with bonding curves.
And I don't think the Tregion token's on a bonding curve, right?
Right.
We want to explore that for EmGrow potentially quack in the future.
But yeah, we're gonna we're gonna launch it
as a pair yeah makes perfect sense i mean that's probably the right thing to do it's um but there
is some interesting things that you can do when there is collateral backing the token natively
and like being able to effectively loan out like you stake some tokens and then you get access to
the collateral under
the curve or like like there's just so many cool things you can do with these with new d5 primitives
so yeah long story short i would just keep from the social side i would try to keep aprs
you know at a reasonable level you know 50 or 50% or lower just because, um, higher than that feels like,
I mean, it's not like the problem is it's not super exciting, you know, uh, if it's lower than
that, but it's also like, um, it doesn't feel scammy, you know, and, uh, but then higher than like 10% because, you know, it's, it is a volatile token.
And if, are people staking just TGN tokens or are they staking a liquidity pool token?
Just TGN tokens.
What do you mean by a liquidity pool token?
Like the pair?
Like yield farming.
Yeah.
Like, you know, yeah like uh you know you
stake you know for instance balancer has this thing where they do a ve curve style of governance
like the vote escrow tokens but instead of using bal tokens they actually use a balancer pool that
is 80 bal and 20 eth and so if you want to participate in governance,
you have to create a BAL pool token against ETH,
which makes BAL have the balancer token have great liquidity.
And yet it's still used for governance.
Makes sense.
You have to put both up in the liquidity pool for staking yeah right yeah
no that makes a lot of sense i'll look into that yeah i mean and that's that and ve curve is a
really interesting thing like what do people get when they stake besides an apr do they get anything
else so in order to be a verifier in the proof of tree protocol, you need to stake TGN, a minimum amount.
I think we're going to go with $200 minimum.
And so then you can go to the proof of tree DAP.
And just by taking a few boxes, make sure that the plant is followed the right planting methodology.
Then the verifiers also get 5% of all the ecological credits that get minted.
So starting with the tree token of MGRO, and then anyone can plant any tree as well, and
that'll turn to NFT by verifying that.
People buy the NFTs with TGN, so there's a use case for it.
These video NFTs that represent the trees planted other than mangrove trees, and then
5% of those tokens that go into buying those
will also go to verifiers for those different types of trees. So basically, you get to be a
verifier and you get to earn 5% of all the ecological assets that get minted as well.
Interesting. Interesting. You know, things I i get excited about and maybe it's too
hard to innovate so hard but like you know in a dream world it seems like it's a verifier
it's just a person who wants to stake tree gen tokens right and they want to verify or they
don't even want to stick tree gen. They want to verify that trees were planted and then get 5% of the ecological value, basically, that's generated from the verification.
So if they're staking a volatile token, what really sucks for them is that if they pay $200 for it now,
maybe it ends up going down to 100, you know?
And so, you know,
what would be really interesting is like kind of an option.
Almost how market makers do it in crypto,
where they kind of get a loan from the team and then they get an option on
that loan where they can either, you know, keep the tokens from the loan and pay in fiat or give the tokens back when the market making contract is over.
And that gives them this ability to kind of be like, well, OK, I'm not going to lose money.
kind of be like, well, okay, I'm not going to lose money. If I take out a loan and if I give them
some cash for tokens, if I give them 200K for tokens and they give me 200K worth of tokens,
if the token's price goes up, hey, that's great. I give them back the 200K. I did a good job for
market making and I made a profit more than 200K.
If the token price goes down, well, I just give them back the tokens, right?
So that's okay.
And I think that's kind of the similar behavior you'd want to, a Tregen user would want.
They would want like, okay, I'm going to put down $200.
they would want like okay i'm going to put down 200 i don't really i mean people probably
i think the treason token and having upside in the token is really exciting but then the downside of
the token is really scary and so if there was a way i know this is kind of stupid but if there
was a way where you know people get five percent of anR for the token if as long as the price is going up.
But if the price goes down, they get even more to try to keep the value that they put in at $200.
You know, that would be that would be an amazing design.
So that way you could say, hey, there's no downside risk in working with me on this
verifying thing. We will give you more tokens if you want to cash out and the value is not worth
$200. Ooh la la, that sounds really cool. Yes, you're protecting the downside for those who do
want to stake and become verifiers. Exactly. Is there a protocol that we can use that already exists to do that
or we have to develop it?
I would have to look into it.
I think that there is the software,
which is like you could basically,
I don't want to say it wouldn't have to be completely manual,
but it doesn't have to necessarily be fully smart contracts. It could be like, manual, but it doesn't, doesn't have to necessarily be smart,
fully smart contracts. It could be like, Hey, maybe there's like, Hey, if you want your, your value is less than this. Like if you'd like to not get your tokens now, but you get them next
week, you know, but it'll be $200 worth click this button, you know, and then you just do with
multi-sigs and basic spreadsheets and accounting. I know that sounds super lame, but for, uh, you know, for an impact project,
and trust me, I've run a few, you know, you just can't do everything to the same level
that optimism can do, you know? So there are some like, you know, with a little bit of time delay and some operational investment, you could say, do it without any kind of smart contracts.
You just expose that button, you know, and then effectively they, that button go in and you look at all the people and you say oh yep
okay these guys put in you know 200 worth and now they all are going to get instead of the tokens
this the token the 5% apr they're going to get the extra bonus
tgn so that you know they, also, we have to consider like,
you know, does the guarantee, does that guarantee then put some downward pressure,
more downward pressure when things aren't going well, you know, so that there is like
a con to that design, and it needs to be thought through a little bit deeper. And,
you know, this is the real
challenge with uh back of the envelope token engineering you know it just man even even token
design with lots of thought and and forethought and and research and thinking about the users
and thinking about the economics and running simulations often that goes wrong you know so
like just throwing on
a Twitter space and kind of talk about it, you got to really think about the repercussions of
design decisions. And, you know, I would love to see, and I think for $200, maybe it makes a lot
of sense because it's not the biggest thing, but, you know, you have to think through it and make
sure that it would be, it wouldn't have some kind of negative repercussions that we don't, that we wouldn't expect.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, they'd have to, I guess, be an active verifier and not just like park the 200 for the guarantee, I guess.
Yeah.
Ah, see, that's a good idea.
Yeah, that's great yeah well i mean so they
would be getting an apy so you're saying like less than 50 more than 10 somewhere in there
maybe 42 or something i don't know for tgm yeah but unless you add some kind of downward protection
then like five percent would probably be more than enough. People would be stoked. Like, okay, you promised that I'll get 200 back and in the worst case scenario,
but I'll earn 5% otherwise like, or, or 10%.
Sure.
Yeah.
Okay.
Great.
Cause one, one of the things that I found is I really don't like the like, okay, we're
going to have this many rewards per month and then
let the market decide like what that APR becomes, even though it seems like that would
be the free market solution.
It's really hard to in advance say these are the right amount of rewards we're going to give for the next six months uh from uh from like a um
supply and demand side for especially for an impact project but instead like if there was
really like okay we have this much budget we're going to cap the apr at this we're going to make
the minimum this and you can kind of put some more dynamics around it
and i really want to see if there's an application out there but i would love that for
give power it's just like a cap and a min for aprs and then just um
let it go and as opposed to because you can't really control with most staking programs you have like we're giving away
this many tokens this month and then the aprs are kind of determined by how many people stake so
yeah i don't know this is why i was like man i want to do some research to answer that question
research to answer that question and do a deep search uh prompt for that one exactly
because there's probably because there's so many crypto projects now i mean you really do want to
use deep search ai there's so much going on like i know what i've seen in my little circles but
man so many people are building so much cool stuff. Yeah, there's so much going on.
You got to have a finger on the pulse.
So it makes sense.
So maybe having two options.
So one is where you get a certain APY, it's fixed,
and then you can stake and da-da-da-da,
and then you also get 5% of ecological credits that get minted.
And then the other option is you have this downside
protection for people um maintaining the value of their tgn and then like a smaller upside so you
have two options i could yeah yeah something worth exploring but then keep it but you know that's the
thing you want to keep it simple like that's the know, two options is two is one too many, um, in general.
So like, unless it's really two different audiences completely, and then you could kind
of like, you know, they might even be almost different webpages or different UX, UX experiences,
you know, but, uh, yeah, it's, it's really tough. Like, I think one of the biggest problems, especially that I do,
is we make it way too complex.
We just make things too complex.
And no one is going to – very few people are going to spend more than five minutes
trying to figure out what you're doing.
And if they can't figure it out in five minutes, the likelihood that they do it –
the only reason they would do it is if they're gambling, you know?
Yeah, exactly.
Well, look, we're a minute of the hour.
If you have to dip out, I totally understand.
Just any final things you wanted to share, any words of wisdom before TGN grows live?
before TGN grows live?
Man, I am so excited.
Man, I am so excited.
I really love what TGN is trying to do.
And this is exactly why I'm in crypto.
I want to see impact.
I want to see real changes happen through economics.
And I feel like we can try to do so much uh with with generosity
with donations with with you know values and ideals but in the end it all just gets cast aside
when the apr is a little higher over here you know and it's so sad or like the, the economic return, uh, has, is, is more powerful
than any kind of ideals, you know, and it's a sad state of affairs, but we just have to,
we just have to understand that and design around it. And that is what it is. And yeah. And I, if we, we have to get over this idea that we need to rely on altruism to,
you know, help the environment. We should be able, like,
one of the things that I,
that always gives me hope is that I know that if we, there,
there are landowners around a river and that river is polluted.
But if the landowners grow, grow ordinated to clean that river, their land
value would go up more than the cost of cleaning that river.
What we're missing is grow ordination.
And I believe tree gins is a huge step in that direction.
That's why I want to support this cause
and I want to be here for you guys as much as I can.
And yeah, and I know that there is value in the world
that is just not being coordinated around
that will actually benefit society
and individuals at the same time.
And I think you guys are really, really doing it. So thank you for having me and thank you
for working so hard to make this reality, Jimmy, and everyone here involved.
Let's grow, man. Thank you so much. appreciate you brother thank you thank you thank you
thank you guys are you are you doing this space for a while i do have to
pop but how long is this thing going uh i don't know i don't know uh we're just gonna keep going
uh yeah we got some other special guests coming through and i'm sure there's gonna be a lot to
discuss so yeah if you get some time later on, just check back. We might still be here.
Okay, cool, man. I'll see
you guys. Thanks for listening to my stories.
Cool, guys. Thank you. Thank you.
Bye, guys.
We got
the real world impact
founder up here.
If you're
able to come up,
welcome, friend. I see we also got troll king up
here on the stage welcome troll king really grateful for your support and i know you got
some cool merch going on we got a space hey when is the spaces that you've got planned
it's this week right hello jimmy hello everyone lovely to be here first of of all. Love TGN, excited about TGN.
And yeah, you did a good job the other day with the planting, right?
It was awesome to see. And yeah, the space is next Monday, in one week exactly.
Next Monday, okay, perfect, perfect. Thank you, fam.
Yeah, so for those of you who didn't get the updates, we, as a movement, largely the Green Legacy Initiative,
TreeGen's had a role to play with the first ever Growlympic Games.
We got a really cool video coming out on that soon.
It was freaking epic.
People got so into it.
And I love to see it.
Like, that was the goal.
But more trees were planted last Thursday than any other day in history.
It was 714 million trees plus.
That was in Ethiopia alone, and we had a bunch of people planting in different countries.
That's never been done before.
You know, our big, hairy, audacious goal was a billion.
But that's something to keep striving for, you know?
We will hit it.
We will hit it.
So long as Jimmy is still breathing, we will keep striving for that.
And it is going to happen.
And but yeah, more trees than any other day in history is still a pretty freaking epic
accomplishment.
There are more than 29 million planters officially and even more that are unofficially a part
of it.
And we got to do the beta launch of the proof of tree protocol.
And and yeah, the, the,
the MVP we're hoping to get live this,
this Thursday as well.
So stay tuned for that.
It's a,
it's,
it's pretty epic and awesome.
And yeah,
I'm super grateful that we were able to have all these amazing grow
laborations.
We're going to release a roadmap.
It's pretty epic.
Just to zoom out of all the epic stuff that we've got cooking.
So we've already built an instant payout referral, multi-tiered referral program for our own launchpad, basically.
We've built an entire freaking launchpad.
Just that is a company right there, but we've built it internally.
We've got the TGN governance token, which has all these different custom functionality with the proof of tree protocol that's coming out.
We've developed a dynamic NFT agent.
So every single NFT that we're going to launch, the cute little tree gen characters, like you see Jimmy Sangavoma up here and Carol in the audience, they're going to be coming alive, you know, as AI agents.
And as we move towards this AGI, ASI future, they're going to become quite interesting
to interact with.
You know, they're going to have their own personalities.
They're going to be able to mimic KOLs to grow our movement while you sleep.
You're going to be able to get paid every single second through streamed social fi rewards so it was massive
utility of these nfts you know and uh originally i'll give you an update on this too it's looking
like a four to five week timeline right now before our social fi platform is fully fully operational
um there's been a little bit of a hiccup there but it has a silver lining you know
typically that's the way it works. There are silver linings.
And I'm going to give you a few examples of that.
You just heard one with the DAO hack and everything.
It ended up being a silver lining.
But originally, a person reached out to me.
I'm not going to name names, but he's a part of a dev shop.
And he said, hey, have you got any cool business ideas?
We're looking for entrepreneurs to partner with.
And we'll do an equity thing where we're each going to get an
equity. We'll build it. You grow it and that's how it can work. And I pitched this idea of streamed
social fi with, you know, based on real engagement. So we're rewarding humans, not bots and loved it.
And then time went by and we had a write up agreement kind of thing. And unfortunately,
I didn't push for a signature, but it was approved in writing, et cetera,
with deadlines and da-da-da-da.
And then time went by,
and then he just went back on the word
and said, actually, we're just going to focus
on paid projects right now,
which sucks when people tell me
they're going to do something,
and then I announce it to everyone,
and then they're like, ah, actually.
And then I'm like, well, what the?
But fortunately, this amazing guy
who I want to do his spaces with
called CyberDeals, Andre,
he actually came all the way to Ethiopia to join the Growlympics, an absolute G.
And he ended up also helping fund some of the prizes for the Growlympics.
And he said, you know, once this client deal comes, he's going to chip in more.
And I was like, well, what kind of clients?
You know, what's your business?
And he's like, well, actually, I'm running a dev shop.
And I'm like, well, do you ever do partnerships on projects, equity deals kind of thing?
And he's like, yeah.
And then I told him this concept and what had happened to me with this other dev shop.
And he's like, yeah, I'll build it for you 100%.
So I just had a great meeting with him again yesterday.
And we're moving that ball forward.
He gave me a four to five week time horizon.
And he's way more values aligned, you know, super conscious and impact driven individual.
He saw my t-shirt in Dubai that had like billion trees in the back and he came up to me.
That's how we met.
He's like, are you serious about this?
You know what I mean?
And dude, he loves it.
And he's an absolute amazing guy.
So that's a silver lining.
So that's going to be four to five weeks.
That said, though, we are able to web scrape X and add to the points on the leaderboard.
So once this does go live, you know, we should be able to retroactively give you points.
So if you're using the TGN ticker, if you're tagging at tree gens in the timeline, based on the real engagement that you get, you will get points, which will adjust your flow rate.
Right. So every single second you're going to be able to be earning TGN. Personally, plus your mini-me, your little TGN character, is also going to be able to do that.
And I think this is just going to grow and grow and grow over time. So that's next on the roadmap
towards the Regenissance. And then, of course, we have the Proof of Tree DAP. You can already right
now go to app.treegens.org, and you can see a little proof of concept there.
But it's going to be fully, fully operational later this week is the goal.
And then MGRO, M-G-R-O, tokenized mangroves.
Our goal is to launch this with Quack because literally the only way to create the MGRO token is by planting mangrove trees.
And so we can't do a pre-sale.
You know, bootstrapping liquidity is a totally different ballgame
than TGN for this tree token.
So we wanted to use quadratic acceleration,
use grant funds for that.
But even if that doesn't come through,
we have other plans.
We did get a soft commit from Cello
to bootstrap some liquidity on the refi decks.
And so that's another thing we could do there.
Also, potentially other DAOs like Public
Announce may be able to fund that. But we got a soft commit from Cello for that. So that's a tree
token that's launching around the time of the Proof of Tree Protocol. We got the Grow-O-Lition.
So we're going to the Africa Climate Summit in September. And then in November, the COP30 event
that's in Brazil, we're going to get a bunch of different
countries involved.
The African Climate Summit is actually in Ethiopia.
And they're going to be sharing what we did with the Growlympics, like playing a video.
We got an opportunity to display that.
And we want to really encourage other countries to participate in the next year's Billiontree
Initiative.
And so, you know like
even though we didn't hit a billion this year like i will like i said continuously strive to do this
until we make it happen and then the next goal is going to be eight billion one for every human in
the world and we're just going to keep on striving for these big big accomplishments and more and
more countries will be getting involved it was a bit hard of a grow ordination challenge this year
because you know uh the date changed like three times from Ethiopia.
But we can add as much value as humanly possible, whether that be on the carbon credit side, on the tracking side, all these different stuff.
And we can hopefully, like, pick a date and, you know, stick to our date, June 5th, World Environment Day, 2026.
Let's freaking grow.
We're going to be partnering with different brands, different merchandise companies, apps,
dApps, this kind of thing so that for every single sale, they can fund trees.
And that's like a sustainable and scalable way of creating buy pressure on our tree tokens.
I'm also going to be launching like a fundraiser door to door team that is going to sign people
up for monthly contributions.
And that's going to very easily onboard people and create a buy pressure on the tree tokens as well.
The AI tree counting is going to expand for 40 different trees as we go to tokenize
different ecological assets leading up to the next year. Billion tree initiative. Carbon forward. So
for those of you who don't know, we're an RWA,
DAO. The carbon markets, voluntary and compliant together is $900 billion per year. And it's forecast to reach $1.6 trillion with a T by 2028. We're going to be one of the biggest
carbon credit developers. And we have an exponential growth model. So if you plant a
mangrove tree today, right, it takes 25
years to sequester about 308 kilograms of carbon per tree. And it happens according to a bell curve.
So the first five years, there's not a lot of sequestration. So there's not a lot of funds
that you can leverage to do more of the good thing. And so what we are doing in our model
of tree gens is something called carbon forwards.
So we're able to sell the future value of these carbon credits to either carbon project
developers, impact investors, or companies like Shopify, for example, they're currently
buying carbon forwards.
They know they need the credits in the future.
They know the price of carbon is likely to go up in the future.
So they want to buy it today.
Even though it's at a discounted rate, even the
commitment to buy can also be financed with banks. That's another model. Even though it's at a
discount though, it's still about between five to nine times what it costs to plant the trees in the
first place. And this means that we can multiply the trees and then we can sell a carbon forward
on that multiplication. And then we multiply again and then we sell a carbon forward again.
And then we multiply again. We sell a carbon forward again. We repeat this process so that we can scale
exponentially. One million mangroves with a 9x multiple is only six carbon forward deals away
from 530 billion trees with a B, you guys. This is how we become a multi-billion dollar Dow,
is by scaling through carbon forwards.
And then subject to a DAO vote with TGN, we can also vote to take those funds and we can
back the liquidity of our tokens, right?
And this is how we can have long-term value.
So bull market, bear market, we can be continuously growing.
And thanks to Impact Launchpad, we've been connected and Coco is another. So one of the
biggest carbon credit deals in history is in the process of being transferred and processed right
now. It's already closed. Due diligence already done. Agreements already signed. They're doing
the exchange within the next two weeks on the London exchange, right? Because you need a third party to facilitate the transfer of
credits to funds. That's happening. And TreeGens has already been parked as one of the groups
that's going to be getting an impact investment, not on the token side necessarily, but just from
the carbon project side, right? Equity of what we're going to be doing on the carbon credit side. And so by taking those funds, we're going to be able to launch our first ever carbon project side, right? Equity of what we're going to be doing
on the carbon credit side.
And so by taking those funds,
we're going to be able to launch
our first ever carbon project
and then sell forwards
and get this beautiful flywheel growing.
And that is what's going to allow us
to really, really have long-term value.
So that's the next thing that we got on our roadmap.
And then eventually, you know,
once everything is rocking and rolling
and we got a really epic, you know, once everything is rocking and rolling and we
got a really epic, you know, flywheel growing, we're going to get into organizing one of the
most transformational and movement building festivals called Regenissance. Because it is
not just about tree gens to usher in this beautiful future that we all want to live in.
It's really about everyone taking massive action. You need all of you, if you have a beautiful
idea to regenerate the world to succeed, for us to live in a future that we want to live in. I mean,
think about it. Every single product around you has some form of a negative impact, whether if
it's the mining from the metals or it's the oil from the plastic. There has been a detriment to
our environment
because of pretty much every single product and every sale. And with the onset of AI, you know,
some people are saying that a renaissance has already started, right? Already now people can
create in ways that they never thought were possible just a couple of years ago.
And pretty soon you'll be able to speak technologies into existence, even speak innovations
into existence. And when that day
comes, you know, creativity is like a muscle. The more that you work that muscle, the more that you
become capable of it, the more creative that you become. And therefore, the more businesses are
going to be creating like every single second, right? Like sure, jobs will be displaced, but
businesses are also going to be erupting. And so it's very important that once we reach that next renaissance, that it is regenerative, that it is
a regenissance. And so to a huge extent, all we are is an accumulation of experiences, right?
You know, that's shaped us to a huge extent. And so by providing a transformative experience for
people at a regenissance festival, we can shift their mindset towards regeneration
and towards building this future that we actually need to live in.
It's pretty urgent.
Like I'm talking like five to 10 years, we're going to live in this insane future.
It'll be unrecognizable with ASI.
And so that's why Regennaissance exists.
That's why we've already done a pilot, a Regennaissance party.
We also did something called Funding the Regennaissance over at ETC in France.
And this is where, you know,
one of the most successful TV shows in history is Shark Tank. It's inspired a whole generation
to be entrepreneurs. Well, you know, this is why we need to do like a regenerative version of this,
basically like an impact, social impact, impact investor version of Shark Tank. And at COP29 in November in Brazil, Impact Launchpad is partnered
up with us to do a really high-end production of an impact investment version of Shark Tank.
So if you have a business idea that you want to get funded and scale and take to the next level,
and you want to work with investors that are actually really aligned for positive impact,
try to make it to Brazil in November because we can get you in front of those judges and hopefully
close a deal for you to take it to the next level.
So that's a full roadmap to the regenerations of what we've got cooking at Tregen.
We got bowls on you over here, the founder of this real world impact initiative and narrative.
And I'm super grateful to have you here.
Thank you for your patience while I rambled on about our roadmap and things. So without further ado,
Bo's on you. How you doing, my friend? What's going on, man? Thanks for inviting me up.
Sounds like you guys are doing some amazing things, man. I really love what you guys are
out here doing. A lot of folks try to find a way to have impact, achieve impact, but you guys are
out there doing it, man. So it's amazing you guys found a corner in the market and you guys are
killing it. Thank you so much, brother. Thank you, thank you, thank you. And yeah, so man, I was
really grateful to be a part of your real world impact spaces. You've also brought together some
really cool projects that are making an impact in the world and definitely resonates from real-world assets to real-world impact.
Unfortunately, a lot of the real-world assets world is like real estate, which is a little bit less exciting for me personally.
But I do think that a lot of these real-world impacts are also real-world assets, right?
Like carbon credit is an asset.
It is a commodity. It is a pretty big market. And so is biodiversity is becoming a similar
type of thing. And there are many different types of ecological assets and real world assets that
can be brought on chain that are very impactful. So why did you decide to put this collective
together around real world impact? Yeah, great, great question.
So, you know, many people know my background is military, so 20 years retired. When you invest a
lifetime, you know, around focusing on trying to make society better, leading soldiers, you know,
being a thought leader for problems that need to be fixed. You know, you just don't sit idly and observe the world of problems and say,
okay, I'm not going to do anything about it.
So I kind of, you know, live the life of service where, you know,
if I'm participating in an activity, whether it's at work or my environment,
or in this case in the Web3 space, you know,
the first thought that always comes to my mind is how can I contribute,
you know, something impactful to the space? How do I create a legacy? How do I become a thought leader to carve out
something that needs to exist in this space? So the idea of real world impact was just the
obvious approach because I'm passionate about mentorship and servant leadership.
I have a podcast that focuses on self-help. And I was thinking, well,
how do we bring this to the blockchain space? And being in the space since 2016, I've noticed that
a lot of meme projects pop up. They get a whole lot of attention, a whole lot of money, but they
don't do anything about it. And I don't come from a wealthy background. I come from the have-nots
where people say, it's a shame that celebrities make so much money and they
can do so much to impact society, but they just choose not to. So now since we're in
the blockchain era where people can launch a project and become multimillionaires overnight,
you know, I find that average citizens are now sitting in the same boat. You know, they
have the stage to achieve impact, whether with their audience or
whether with their financial success. But again, they choose to not do that. And as I kind of comb
through the crypto space, starting on the Avalanche chain where we originally started,
I found that there were those projects in the corners, deep, deep, dark corners of the crypto
landscape that were focused on achieving real real world impact but
they didn't have a stage they didn't have the attention nobody's talking about them no influencers
are promoting them and i kind of found something wrong with that picture so i said you know what
i think what needs to happen is that the the collective is more powerful than the individual
and i felt like you know the collective needs to push the RWI narrative
to make sure that's a narrative that is acknowledged and can survive in the crypto space.
So that way we can carve out a new space. We can be the pioneers and carve out a space in crypto
where all these projects have a place to exist and have a platform to be heard and be seen.
And they deserve to be monetized and realize their ambitions
to achieve the impact objectives
that's important to them.
So, you know, it's not my movement.
It's everybody's movement.
Everybody's just been moving alone.
And now I'm just kind of collecting them
like Pokemon and putting everybody into a group.
So that way we can launch, you know,
a collective initiative,
not trying to highlight one project over the other because
everybody's impact initiative contributes positively to society. So we should promote
all equally. And that's what the RWI coalition is about. It's about moving together, creating
this narrative, make sure it sticks and stays, and that we're the thought leaders for kind of
bringing this into Web3. Right on, man. on man i love that yeah you see a problem
and you don't sit idle about it you do take massive action and try to usher it into the world
and uh and i love the humor that you're bringing along with it too man like you've got you got to
do that you know and especially in the in the meme space um and uh you know some people miss
that right like if they if they're setting out to do the impact
all always super serious but you you're really helping kind of bridge this gap between
kind of the humorous meme world and and that impact so yeah absolutely people get passionate
about the impact and i have to constantly remind my compute my community that you know while we're
out here kind of preaching you know the real world impact and we're preaching about all these these objectives that we want to achieve.
We always got to come back to humor.
We got to have fun because the world is a serious place.
There's a lot of serious problems.
And, you know, humor helps us to digest, you know, the difficult things.
It helps us to connect in unique ways.
So I'm doing a meme contest right now. And you wouldn't believe, you know, I posted, I made a post and I explicitly
said, hey, let's make the memes funny. You know, we're focused on social impact, but let's have a
space for, you know, BALLS is an acronym, right? So it's bravery, awareness, well-being, laughter,
and social good. So I said, let's focus on the L, let's focus on the laughter. And still people
are so compelled behind the social impact that everybody's making memes and focused on the L, let's focus on laughter. And still people are so compelled behind the social impact
that everybody's making memes and focused on the social good, which is great. But, you know,
just try to drive people and remind them that we should have fun while we do this is, you know,
it's a good, it's a good problem to have. I love that. Yeah. I didn't know it was an acronym.
That's cool, man.
That's cool, man. I like that. Bravier, wellness, wellbeing, laughter, and social good.
I like that.
Bravier, wellness, well-being, laughter, and social good.
It's a great combo.
Go ahead, Sangavon.
Laughter is also a sign that the nervous system is relaxing,
so it's one of the best ways to regulate, co-regulate,
or self-regulate your nervous system.
So I'm all about laughter.
As some of you already know, I got a natural laugh.
It likes to come out. But, yeah, I'm going to have to As some of you already know, I got a natural laugh. It likes to come out.
But yeah, I'm going to have to give you a follow balls and check out your meme contest for some laughs.
I appreciate that.
Yeah, we're trying to push the we're trying to pull the humor out of the people.
Like in real life, I'm a clown.
You know, I'm big on leadership.
I've led hundreds of hundreds of soldiers.
You know, I'm currently a leader in my cybersecurity space.
I lead, you know, regular civilians and cybersecurity stuff.
But I love to have fun.
I love a good laugh.
And I have a very difficult funny bone.
Like, you got to be humorous to really tickle it out of me.
And I'm just looking for that post that's interesting and funny.
But it's just, where's the funny people at?
That's the hard part.
Yeah.
We did a meme battle, meme coin.
It was not a meme coin,
but like meme competition of people making memes
with their three-gen characters.
And the creativity was off the charts.
We had one around engagement as well.
Some did really well. Like laughter. It took a while to decide
which one's actually funny. There were some that were kind of funny. It's a good thing to focus on.
I want to hear more about your story. So you said you came from a military background.
You led a ton of different soldiers and the leadership lessons there.
And then you went on into the Web3 space.
What are some of the leadership lessons that you're able to take from those experiences in the military that you think would apply to anyone that's starting a business and looking to lead?
Oh, I mean, yeah, that's an easy one.
I mean, I think the first thing that pops in my mind is servant leadership, right?
And that scales to everything we do as people business, right?
When you create a business, you have to meet a market demand and you have to be in touch
with the needs of the people in order to create a product that actually resonates with them.
So in the military, whenever I had a person, I was transitioning from the rank of specialist,
which is an E4.
It's a junior enlisted rank into sergeant.
That's the first time that they get to tell people what to do.
And they come to me and they say, hey, I was a warrant officer.
I was a senior officer in the military.
So they say, hey, chief, you know, what's the first thing
you could tell me? I'm becoming a leader. You know, how do I actually get people to follow me?
And I told him, I said, you know, you got to find out what's important to the people that you lead
and work to serve their needs first before you expect them to serve your needs. And then once
you're able to do that and, you know, tap into what's important to those people, they will work
tirelessly to make sure that you're successful, to make sure that whatever you tell them to do gets done.
And it's the same exact principles in business is if you're focused on, you know, for example, in crypto, if you're focused on the charts, if you're focused on selling tokens, if you're focused on selling art, you're going to have a hard time doing it all the time.
Right. But if you focus on what's important to your community and you try to deliver that first right then eventually you'll gain loyalty and then the
the charts just reflect the belief the conviction that people have in what you're doing and and and
what you're selling and it's the same thing whether it's crypto or there's a c corporation
corporation, whatever it is, you know, you have to serve the needs of the people first.
whatever it is you know you have to serve the needs of the people first
Serve the needs of the people. Yeah. So, so firstly, taking the time to really thoroughly
understand that sounds like the foundation. Song of Om? I didn't realize that my hand was up.
Oh, you just unmuted. I did not mean to. I was making a post, and I don't know how I did that.
Okay, okay.
By the way, for those who do want to join TreeGen's DAO before we launch at the stable levels of 0.1,
make sure that – so, okay, here's the update here.
We were launching phase three on our own launchpad.
There's a couple more tweaks that need to get done when our dev is up in a few hours.
But in the meantime, if anyone wants to join, we made this process insanely easy.
You can literally send practically any cryptocurrency that's on a major EVM chain.
I'm talking Zello, Base, Arbitrum, Optimism, ETH Mainnet, a bunch of the main ones, Matic. You can simply
send to TGN.ETH and then we'll send you your TGN tokens.
Now, EntryGE is August 9th, which is
Indigenous Peoples Day, so that's coming up in just a few short days.
Now, one thing I wanted to say is
make sure that you're sending from a self-custodial wallet.
If you're sending from, like, a Binance, like, exchange wallet, then that could become problematic.
As long as it's the right network, though, then, yeah.
But then we should be able to sort it out with the exchange and whatever.
But, yeah, just make sure you send from send from like a Metamask, a Phantom.
Like it's got to be your wallet and it's got to be EVM compatible so that we can send your tokens on base.
So we're going to bridge it for you and then get you your tokens on base.
So you've got to be able to accept base tokens.
And if it's an exchange, like, you know, we're not going to be on Binance on day one.
We do plan to be on coinbase
because every base token is going to get listed on base through their dex integrations um but uh
but yeah just to make sure if you are doing that method then uh then that's the way but and then
we're also going to be launching another launch pad um as well so we're actually gonna have like
three different ways that people can buy in for phase three and that's coming up uh later today
so just stay tuned turn the noties
on but if you want to make sure you're one of the first um 500 to get the most dynamic nft ever we're
giving away these these tree gen characters which are going to come alive as agents uh visually
level up in three different ways through a dynamic semi-soulbound token to anyone who puts in 200
bucks in so i think the nft alone is going to be worth more than that. Plus you're getting a .tgn wallet address.
So that's another NFT.
And since we have tgn.eth, you can actually have yourname.tgn.eth.
That actually works like an ENS domain.
Plus we have yourname.tgn, which works as it's within a specific platform.
But the AI agents are going to be able to interact with that and send funds to songofhome.tgn, for example,
or will.tgn.
So yeah, two free NFTs when you put in 200 bucks to join the DAO.
It's a pretty insane deal, which is still currently on offer.
There's not a massive amount of those left,
but yeah, just wanted to throw that out there as ways.
Balls, you're unmuted go ahead yeah um i just want to say uh i just want to give a shout out to a few
people that i noticed in the room um a guy will provide just popped out before i was getting ready
to give him a shout out but i see uh god will provide was just in the room our coin lover uh
those are two ambassadors for for Balls Project. They're
doing great things, spreading the narrative in Nigeria. The guy will provide, Isaac Ben
is his name, has attended three in real life events over in Nigeria. One of them just recently
was one of the largest Web3 events in Abuja, Nigeria at a university had over 1000 people there.
And he talked about the real world impact narrative and also the balls project.
And he's out there just doing great things.
Coin lovers, another one, another one of our ambassadors, you know, they're spreading the word and promoting the project, just trying to get the narrative spread into Nigeria.
the project, just trying to get the narrative spread into Nigeria. And then also I see Pali
Riders and Will on here, two members of our RWI coalition. Thank you for being a part of the
movement. We're building, we're trying to get where we got to go. Recently, we've been focused
on building value inside the Balls ecosystem and then kind of shifting back over to trying to get the overall coalition working.
So, you know, if you're going to be the leader of a narrative, then you got to make sure that you're kind of tapping all the different objectives of building internal value and also building value for the partners.
So thank you for, you know, being present and staying connected as we move forward.
Let's grow. Love it, man. So thank you for being present and staying connected as we move forward.
Let's grow.
Love it, man.
I see we got Zala's also joining us up on stage.
We got a musical performance soon.
But Sanga Bomi, you had your hand up.
Go ahead, friend.
I just wanted to share that I'm going to give away two tales of Tazer and NFTs in this space because we ran out of time the last space that we had.
So I want to make sure I follow through with that.
Right on. Yeah, we got several NFTs given away. Keep in mind, we're also going to be giving away
one of those dynamic semi-soulbound tokens, the AI agent NFTs as well well so make sure that you're max engaging if you want to answer that uh wait
hold on let me just put up here because i want it you're gonna give one to uh that's super sweet
okay i'm putting one up there boom all right so you gotta just max engage with that up in the
pinned uh tag three friends and retweets uh if you want to enter that one but yeah go ahead
songabomb let's do your giveaway let's grow uh well there how do you want to do it huh
how did you want to do it like based on comments just a random person in a room
oh i think that it should definitely go to somebody. Well, there's two. Should go to somebody or someone's.
My grammar, wow.
It's like, I should be sleeping right now.
But anywho.
Yeah, what time is it for you?
5.35 and I had to set my alarm to be here.
Oh, man.
Yikes.
Yeah, I'm a similar time zone to you now.
I'm in Japan, 6.35. So I started at 5am. I'm officially in the 5am club because of jet lag. So great. Yeah, but for you, it, okay. So we got two to give away.
Okay.
Why don't we do one random person in here and then another one to someone who comments?
Like, let's get to 100 comments and then give the second one.
Or what do you think?
However you want to do. Yeah.
I think giving away one to a random person, but they have to not have a Tales of Tazern already.
Okay.
And I should have a good idea who does.
So, mind you,
let me
double check
what... I'm going to give away
the white
tree frog.
I already posted it in the
comments. Hold on, let me put it up in the
garden. Beautiful. For those of you who don't know,
Tales of Tazern, it's by James McGee.
He started the Tales of Taster, which is like gamifying all this different stuff.
He's got a bunch of decentralized liquidity.
He's basically like uplifting the entire refi space by creating decentralized liquidity with all their tokens.
Yes.
Decentralized liquidity with all their tokens.
And yeah, he pairs these impact tokens, which generates an NFT on Uniswap to represent the pair.
And then in perpetuity, as those tokens are traded, there's a yield, right?
There's a return for creating the liquidity.
And that is being permanently locked in the NFT.
So you're basically sequestering and retiring carbon in a
lot of cases or different ecological assets in perpetuity like forever
you're as long as these assets are traded you're going to be earning that
token and it's going to be locked into the NFT and they're all one of ones and
these are some beautiful frogs all right right. You got a white frog and an orange frog.
Giveaway.
Let's go.
Okay.
So NFTs for social good.
You got a tree in your PFP.
And I don't think I've ever given you a Tales of Taz or an NFT anyway. So I would say that you're going to get the white tree frog.
Hey, you just picked one, huh?
There you go.
All right, love it.
Just eeny, meeny, miny, you.
Okay, all right, cool.
I was going through the PFPs,
and I was going for the one that called me
that I hadn't seen before that seemed like it was aligned.
Love it.
It's a frog.
It's a tree, tree frog. There you aligned. It's a frog.
It helps to put a tree in your name.
Put .tgn too. Shout out to
alien.tgn. Shout out to carol.tgn.
Shout out to denaro.tgn.
If you haven't
put .tgn in your name,
we're going to be basically
helping park this for you. Shout out to
will.tgn, sangvon.tgnsangvon.tgnsangvon.
This is basically, you know, you're parking this TGN domain,
which is going to become a wallet address.
And if you're doing cool things in the community,
we can very easily send crypto to your wallet and TGN to your wallet
just by saying, just by talking to agents.
Like that's going to be a possibility pretty soon.
So you might want to put .tgn in your username.
Oh, found.tgn as well.
Love to see it.
Love to see it.
So yeah, let's grow, let's grow.
Okay, so we're 19 comments away from 100.
So spam the comments.
Let's do unlimited entries in the comment section.
Ideally tag a friend, onboard them to the comments. Let's do unlimited entries in the comment section. Ideally, tag a friend, onboard them to the space.
It's up to all of us to grow the movement, to let people know.
So tag friends, bottom right.
And once we get to 100, let's do a random number generator and give one away.
Does that sound good, song of them, or how did you want to roll it?
Yeah, that's exactly, that was the next step.
Exactly. That was the next step. And I wanted to share that these frogs, they are set up to perpetually fund public goods on the blockchain.
And I'm going to talk to James. And if he hasn't already attached DDD regen to it, that will also
you'll get a little bit of bonus
to that as well.
That's awesome.
Wait, so what are the impact tokens
that are paired?
For this one, let me
I'll have to check the Zapparap.
But these are
specifically funding
public goods on the blockchain i can't remember
i'm afraid to go check the zapper app because every time i go into other apps
i keep getting rugs out of the space okay no worries you can just come back
yeah i'm always a bit afraid of that when i'm hosting but uh you're all good you can always
pop back bullsls on you.
High five.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was just going to say, you know, when she called out NFT for social good, I said, you
know, let me go through and start looking at the type of people that are in this room.
And there's a lot of amazing individuals in here.
So I encourage everybody to go and follow everybody because the crypto space is crowded
with a lot of DGNs and folks that are not focused on the right things.
And everybody in here seems to be great and decent people.
So definitely go and connect with everybody.
That's what it's all about.
Human capital development, investing in people.
That's the best return you'll get.
So build those relationships, build those connections.
A lot of great folks in here to connect with today.
100%.
I'm following literally everyone in here.
I love all you guys.
We are 33 followers away from 9,500, which is a pretty cool milestone.
We're trying to get to 10K before Tree GE.
And by the way, we dedicate a tree to every single follower.
Yes.
Originally, it was from a Guinness World Record, but we're just going to maintain and plant
a tree and you're going to see the tree dedicated to you for every single follower.
So if you haven't followed tree gens, that's a tree.
If you haven't followed jimmy.gcn, that is a tree that you will see getting dedicated
to you.
So much love.
Much love.
Let's freaking grow. Love all yay i've seen the
followbacks come in um love you guys okay yeah 100 i mean it's like when you do these kind of
spaces it does it's an attractor for all the values along people to come through so so bravery
um what was the a again these are are the values, the balls, right?
The acronym?
Yeah.
That's how we operate.
Yeah.
Bravery, awareness, after social good.
After social good.
That's such a smart way to remember the values is to make it into an acronym.
We have it in the description of our telegram.
So ours are scalable positive impact,
giving without expectation,
and then radical transparency.
So everything we do, we try to make it scalable.
You know, planting a couple trees is great,
but there are 2 trillion that have been wiped off the face of the earth. And so we have to think big.
We have to think scale.
And that's like a core, core part of what we're doing. Giving without expectation, I'm a huge believer in, you know,
like karma is practical, but you should never have that, you know, in the top of mind. Like
if you just give, give, give in the space and you really try to think, as Bowles was saying, like,
how do you think about how you can support the people that you're leading or your community first?
And always just do that from a great place.
That is one of the best things you can do in Web3.
It does tend to come full 360, but by doing that in a genuine way without any expectation is what's going to ultimately make the most impact.
And it's going to ultimately make the most impact and it's going to build vast relationships. And that's something that I think everyone can try to do in this space.
And then radical transparency. I mean, our mission is to build the most rewarding and
transparent tree planting technologies. And in the proof of tree protocol, you have to film
within the application. You can't find something online
and upload it, which is pretty important. And then in the days of AI, right, you generate this stuff
super realistically. You have to film before and after planting within the application. And we
built a feature. So even if you don't have internet, you can save video and upload later.
But you have to film before and after within. The GPS is automatically captured.
So we have GPS of every single video.
And then we always have multiple verifiers,
making sure that the trees are planted correctly.
And then we're heavily weighing and rewarding the growth of the trees,
not just the planting itself.
Five out of six are for the growth. So these are our core values.
But that's super cool that you made it into an acronym.
And it's funny too.
It's funny to say.
Man, you're crushing it.
Because, yeah, most people have no idea what the values of an organization are, right?
Even if you put it up on a sign in your office or whatever.
Most people don't know.
Oh, Zao.
We dropped Zao. If you have to leave zao and you want to do
a musical performance i'd love to hear it so come through whenever you can uh we want to hear from
you but yeah go ahead balls yeah i was gonna say you know values is really the foundation that that
any organization is built on and i've seen you know i've seen some communities that that got
built around the same time that we launched the salon in March. And some projects
launched, you know, like that same month or the month after. And they went from like $0 market
cap up to like $8, $9 million market caps. But because the community didn't have shared values,
and the only thing that they were focused on is returns, and they weren't connected based off of
shared values, those communities tanked within
like three weeks. So going from $9 million back down to zero is a reality. And that's just not
in investments, that's in anything in businesses and communities, anything that's not built on
shared values. That's how communities and societies are structured, people who have shared values.
So that's what I love to kind of start there,
establish our values.
And if people don't want to join the baller community,
then we're not forcing anybody to.
But if you resonate with our values and beliefs,
we do spaces.
We talk about mental health awareness.
The past few Sundays, we've been doing training on technical analysis and investing. You know,
we're constantly finding ways to give back to people and add more value to folks. But yeah,
it's based on values. Hey, what's going on song? Song of...
Song of...
What is that?
What comes up?
Because I'm trying to draw with that letter.
Because I'll do Aum together.
Go ahead.
Song of Aum.
I teach ancient Vedic Sanskrit mantra.
Oh my goodness.
Let me say that again.
I teach ancient Vedic Sanskrit mantra.
And Aum is the sound of creation.
And it's a really like true mantra practice is one of the most well probably is the most powerful way to change your reality um and I've been working with mantras for like over
it's been a long time many many many many. I've been a student and always will be.
And I started teaching a few years ago.
So I've only seen positive change from it,
but,
that's what the OM is.
That's the Sanskrit form.
And there's other languages that OM is written in,
but that is the most commonly recognized form of OM.
Just a little edumacation going on there.
I have a Tibetan singing bowl in my office here.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, the Tibetan om is actually a little different.
It looks a bit different than the Sanskrit om.
Sanskrit. I guess it's two different forms of Sanskrit, but I can't say Hindu because
Like, I guess it's two different forms of Sanskrit,
this specific Sanskrit I teach is pre-Hinduism. It's pre-any religion. So it's non-dogmative.
Yeah. I'm a student of spirituality, so any education you've got, I'm ready to receive.
Yeah. We'll connect.
I did pick a winner.
Well, the random generator number thing on Google picked the number.
And the number was
So I counted back to
And our winner is
AKWeb3.
Nice.
AKWeb3.
Let's freaking grow.
I'll send them to the PM.
Yep, yep, yep.
Cool.
I love that we did this combo.
Oh, AKWeb3 is right here.
Okay, well, feel free to come up if you want to come up. Yeah, they might have to follow me back so I can DM them.
I'm not sure how their settings are because I realized we weren't following one another.
So I just gave them a follow.
For all of you that own Tales of Taz and NFTs already or will be future owners,
just to let you know, I'm consistently
doing giveaways through my profile because I'm collaborating with James while he's super
busy in real life right now.
So I'm helping just grow the project out of the kindness of my heart.
And so, yeah, look out for future giveaways.
Make sure that you're following James McGee meme for trees because you can win free power ups just by engaging with his posts.
And some of his posts are specifically for Tales of Tazern power ups.
post are specifically for Tales of Tazern power-ups. And what I mean by a power-up is you
will get more liquidity attached to it. So your power-up increases the value of your NFT. And I
can say that some of the ones that I bought early on last year, they have like quadrupled in their value just by engaging. I recommend putting a little
notification bell on as well for his posts, not just following them. And follow the directions
because the directions are really important if you want that power-up, because a lot of people just comment, but they don't follow the directions,
and you're missing out.
So for all of those of you who already own and those of you who want to own,
I recommend to go give James McGee a follow and put those notifications on.
Right on. Great alpha
right there. Impact alpha
at its finest.
Oh, and
all engagement on
all of his posts
support
30% of tree planting.
He gives 30% from
his engagement to tree planting.
Some of it goes back into his wallet, like for himself, which he needs.
He's got a lot on his plate right now, so please support him.
And then also he gives a lot back into the public goods that we are all a part of currently,
and tree gens being one of them.
And he, I believe, has helped Jimmy a lot out in the past,
especially when I first came across both Jimmy and James.
I got this praying mantis NFT on the Tezos blockchain,
and it was part of the tokenized trees that Jimmy was planting,
if I remember properly.
So both these people, both these men
are very trusted assets in the Regennaissance, and I'm just grateful to collaborate with all of you.
So I just wanted to share that. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, Mr. McGee, James, has been the most
consistent supporter of Max Impact,
attending more than any other human, always coming through to support.
He tokenized my Guinness World Record for tree planting,
and that really came in clutch to support in a time of need as well.
And so, yeah, always going to have that man's back however humanly possible,
and he's always doing his best with what he's got.
And yeah, really embodying those values, able to literally innovate with NFTs with this perpetual impact locking on a cracked Android phone back in the day.
really just inspiring to know what is really possible with limited resources and the impact
it's able to do for the entire refi space is pretty phenomenal. Balls on you. Go ahead, buddy.
Yeah. So it wouldn't be appropriate if I didn't drop balls on some people in the audience. So
I am obligated to drop balls on you so whoever makes because i told you i need
a laugh right so you make a comment do the the the you know dollar sign balls but it has to be
humorous has to be funny and i'm gonna drop 69 000 balls on three people that post something
that's hilarious i'm gonna drop some balls on you. I can't even. I'm over here. All I'm thinking about is
teabagging and that's fucking terrible.
You're a twisted human being.
See, it has nothing to do with that.
Nothing to do with that.
These are values.
These are values we're dropping on people.
I didn't say it.
Get your mind out of the gutter.
We're dropping values right now.
I'm talking about values.
I'm raising my children on this.
I'm raising my children on these balls.
And you're over here talking about teabagging.
I'm not supposed to talk to my mother about this.
Sorry, I have to say it.
I couldn't control myself.
Jimmy, she's out of control.
She's out of control.
There's something in those trees.
I'm not sure what type of tree she's planting.
There's only no trees of that kind over here where I live.
It's very illegal.
So it's not worth it.
So get them comments in there if you want some balls.
What we have to do is, can you give me the directions again?
Because now that my head's back.
Just make a funny post and make sure you put the dollar sign balls in there.
You know, just something funny about, you know, balls and however you want to look at our page,
figure out how you want to spin it, you know, but I need a laugh.
I need some humor.
So I'm going to look at the comments and then whatever I think is humorous,
I'm going to say, hey, give me your soul address so I can drop some balls on you there you grow drop what a great what a great airdrop uh will t go
ahead buddy speaking about impact alpha if i could share a little bit with you real quick Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So I planted in the garden. Jose Cabrera and Easy Encrypto are hosting a Impact Concert this Thursday,
learning about fractal governance.
So tapping if you're not doing nothing.
It's at 1700 UTC or 1 p.m. Eastern.
It'll be in the Token Smart Discord.
1 p.m. EST in the Token Smart Discord. 1pm EST,
the Token Smart Discord.
And you can get there via this Luma, right?
Correctamundo.
Vittinas,
Vittinas.
Okay, amazing.
Man, I'm trying to find this meme with the
dogs. And you know,
you never know, you may want to consider this meme with the dogs. And, you know, you never know.
You may want to consider this as a potential governance model for tree gen style,
since that was the topic of earlier conversation.
Say that one more time.
A governance model for tree gen style, like fractal, huh?
Yeah, fractal governance, basically awarding people based on the work they produce and in an equitable peer-to-peer review manner.
I know you have your own mechanisms already, but it just could be an added layer to the TrueGen staff.
Yes, indeed. I will look further into that. I was a part of the fractal one time.
I attended one of their meetings.
And yeah, it's a pretty cool model, a nice way of recognition.
Another model that we've discussed, World Tree, is this concept of having expertise for certain voting decisions.
I really feel like this has a lot of potential
and maybe could be like a Kingfisher's Media roadmap item
where people get NFT skill sets,
just like how on LinkedIn you can go through a little course
and just get these little verifications that, hey, I know about this thing, you know, and then that could give you
the rights to vote on certain decisions. I think that could be pretty cool.
Yeah, we should explore that more. But what I will tell you from that perspective is every course that's completed in the KF Media Learning Center has an EAS attachment to it that says that this person completed this course and they have this particular knowledge within our ecosystem already.
And then on the other side, on our dual certification model, we back up that EAS with an unlock certification of the same
thing so if their amount of stations are low difficult to find in your wallet or even find
on the block explorer if you don't know what you're looking for but the unlock certification
gives them that visual representation that they can see in wallet so okay but we should explore how those are transferable to other
communities as well yeah totally totally should should explore that very very cool
all right balls on you i made a contribution to the to the contest i don't know if i'm able
to enter but i found that's a tea bagging dog. That was a bee.
Oh, see, this is perfect.
See, this is perfect.
I didn't put a gif with mine.
I just made a, I made a, I don't know.
He's definitely qualifying with you.
Maybe I shouldn't put a gif.
Oh, man, this is great.
This is great.
Oh man.
Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.
Love it, love it, love it.
So, fantabulous.
So how many members are in the coalition right now for real world impact?
How can people get involved
if they want to join the coalition?
And yeah, give us a rundown of that.
Yeah, absolutely.
So we have 23 projects that are currently aligned.
And all it takes really is just to express an interest.
So you send me a DM and I'll take a look at your project.
And, you know, it's kind of like Walking Dead where they ask those common questions, like how many people have you killed? Why did you kill them? You know, it's kind of like
one of those type of things. I just kind of say, well, what's your social impact? You know, how are
you actually, you know, working to achieve that? And once, you know, we kind of see that somebody's
actually focused on our RWI narrative, then we bring you into the collective and you connect
with all these other cool social impact projects. And then the next phase you know i've been working with uh you know the guys from
nations first you know it's kind of like an indigenous uh focused project for the for the
native american communities over in canada and and he's uh he's behind the scenes with solana
canada and he teaches daO structure and stuff like that.
So he's going to be helping us to structure the DAO for the RWI coalition.
So, yeah, just as long as folks express interest and we can connect.
Our goal is to get to 100 RWI partners so that they'll form the governance model.
partners so that they'll form the governance model. It'll be projects and it will have like
It'll be projects.
kind of like you mentioned earlier, like a shark tank style structure where, you know, a new social
impact project pops up. They're RWI. They can come to the DAO and say, hey, I need some development.
I need UX UI. I need blockchain development. I need whatever. And, you know, collectively,
the folks that are in the coalition that's forming the governance will
vote to see where do we allocate resources to help people realize their RWI narrative
and then we'll surge on those projects for 30 days, help them get off the ground. And then
the same thing with funding, right? Whether it's to donations to social impact projects
or to help with development, we'll have a governance model where we can create a large
treasury where collectively all the projects have some mechanisms that fuel this treasury.
For example, for our staking protocol, whenever somebody's on stakes before a 90-day period,
Before a 90 day period, there's a 5% tax, 3% goes to the holders and 2% goes to what we call our baller community bank, right?
That's where we start to build our little war chest where people can passively contribute to that without having to pull out money from their wallets.
But we'll have a large war chest for the coalition so we can get after those initiatives that take millions of dollars or hundreds of thousands of dollars we can get after a significant impact so hopefully this grows into
kind of like an ethereum foundation type uh structure but just a large web3 based um you
know uh non-profit that just fuels development for projects and uh social impact objectives so
yeah if you're interested you you have a RWI narrative,
just send me a message.
We would love to have you as a part of the coalition.
Let's grow.
So you said you guys started on the AVAX chain
and then you went to Solana.
Is that hard to do to like migrate to another blockchain
or how did you approach that?
Great question.
So here's the story.
Here's a story about how Balls grew into what it was today.
Once upon a time, there was a guy who had a vision that Balls would be funny.
So he launched the project and it was literally a pink pair of testicles with hair growing out of it and a lipstick kiss on the side.
pink pair of testicles with hair growing out of it and a lipstick kiss on the side. And, you know,
I came into the project, you know, because Cox Inu was the big thing on the AVAX chain and Balls
On You launched right after that. And Cox Inu, they were really smart. So they had like a DGEN
name, but the mascot was a chicken. So it was like, it really stuck well. And AVAX realized that,
you know, that meme coins brought, you know, transactions to the chain.
So they started to coin the idea of culture coins. And that's how I kind of came across
Balls On You. I told the team at the time, I said, hey, you guys have a great narrative. It's funny,
but it's not marketable. It's not going to stick around. So we discussed and we rebranded,
we created a new look for it. So now discussed and we rebranded, we created a
new look for it. So now you see these nice cartoonish characters that you have before you
hear. But the original folks that I was working with didn't have the social impact in their mind.
They were focused on de-gen narrative. So we pushed for about a year. We went from like
zero dollars up to a little over two million dollars almost almost a three million
dollar market cap and and the project uh started to kind of shudder as they've started to try to
diversify too much into additional degen narratives and not focused on uh on the social impact
narrative because at this point in time i had built uh partnerships with the testicular awareness
cancer foundation and a bunch of other foundations.
So once I saw they weren't focused on social impact where I was trying to drive it, I stepped
out and the project kind of went downhill on AVAX. So 2025, the CEO of the Testicular Cancer
Awareness Foundation reached out to me and she said, hey, we had a great thing going, you know,
what's going on with this initiative. And I kind of told her the story and I decided that, you know, I wanted to relaunch the project with a sharp focus on social impact.
And that's what we did. We relaunched a project on Solana.
And I spoke with the original folks that were a part of the team and I said, hey, this is what I'm doing.
And they all had their lives going on. So they said, hey, blessings be to you.
Go forth and conquer.
And yeah, we took this thing on a whole new direction.
So new website, new narrative, new focus, just razor sharp on what we want to achieve
in the social impact space.
So that's the Ascension story of Balls on Solana.
That's great. Okay, so it was a different token that launched in the rebrand yeah exactly yeah so so yeah if you go on a back you'll see
testicles unfortunately oh man balls everywhere all right uh god willide came up and I believe raised a hand, so go ahead.
Alright, thank you very much, GMGM, to the host GMGM2.
I just saw you followed me.
I quickly had to follow you back.
Alright, now a quick one.
To the co-host GMGM2, each and every one of you. To the co-host, Jim Jim, to each and every one of you.
To my big brother, Boze Mike.
Thank you very much for tapping in.
I think I actually saw him here.
I saw Luliana, my mentor.
She's actually one of such that I respect so very well.
So that's why I actually had to tap in here, regardless of these two individuals.
Alright, I'm going to quick one.
I just want to add up to what Boze have our clear set now the truth about it is this I feel for any project to strive in a blockchain space I think you actually have a stronger community for every project you actually
strive in the blockchain space actually come up with a narrative that is going to benefit the
community now how do I mean we have have a lot of projects that are shouting,
pump your back, let's fucking go.
But then again, there is none of them
that I've actually tell you,
okay, this is the structure,
this is the contribution,
this is the solution,
the problem at which I'm actually coming
to solve the blockchain space, you know?
So now I feel the narrative of the real world
or impact has never been before. You know know I believe that someone must have actually start
start up stuff for others to you know to strive in here and the idea of the real
world or impact it's a very high ideal one to me I feel this is actually a
project you know under that narrative giving back to the community this is
actually a project under that narrative you giving back to the community. This is actually a project under that narrative, you know,
impacting into the life of the community.
And of course, I can tell you for a fact that the Bows community is leading the chat,
you know, in giving back to the community.
Now, I can tell you that most times people coming up in the blockchain space,
I don't know, from some folks feels that uh
it's just for them to come and shout let's fucking go let's pump your bag uh let's go to the moon
yeah but then again it tends to rock the community and uh and uh you know uh go away you know how i
know how it works yeah that's probably that's why they're gonna probably tell you you should
definitely do your research but then again i feel if everybody actually come together you know with the initiative of the real world impact maybe the idea uh to you
know give back to the community to give back to the people you know to impact in the level of the
social good i feel this space will actually be a very good place now i feel we actually have a
whole lot of bad actors there in the blockchain ecosystem we also have a whole lot of bad actors in the blockchain ecosystem.
We also have a whole lot of good actors as well.
But the bad actors will not actually allow us to see the good ones.
So it's actually high time for us to actually join together, join hands together,
foster hands together to ensure we can actually give back to the community because I believe that the idea and the narrative of which the blockchain is actually striving,
the world impact is actually going to be a very important aspect, you know, in this blockchain space.
So this is me telling that the Boris ecosystem has a very strong community, an African community,
going to IRL events, you know, educating people on blockchain,
telling people on the future and the prospect of blockchain ecosystem you know
trying to unlock the hidden potentials of people i believe that all humanities all people in the
blockchain in the web 3 ecosystem aside from your normal web 3 stuff there's actually potential in
you that god has actually blessed you with i feel to me god has actually blessed us with something
but god has not blessed us with everything now it is all that for you to discover what God has actually blessed you with.
So this is one aspect of which the BOS ecosystem is leading.
Going to real IRL events.
I think we've actually gone to like three or four IRL events.
If we check my TL, check the BOS TL,
we've actually been updating it.
Aside from that, we're also doing classes,
giving back to the people, we're also doing classes, yeah, giving back to the people,
teaching you technical analysis
classes, you know, trading on how for you
when to take profit and know when to take
profit on stock exchange and what have you,
you know, across both,
crypto-wise and
otherwise, yeah. So, I
feel we, to
join us together, to collaborate,
to see how we can also join it bring bring bring
back that social impact bring back that social good give back to the community give back to
humanity you know i feel if there is no humanity if there is no community this project or our
project will not actually strive so it is actually high time for us to center on the impact of the
community and see how we can also make this space a better place.
So this is me, I think I've actually turned
and posted notifications on your account.
Probably gonna be jumping up on your spaces
so we can actually discuss how, what we do and what,
and how we can actually change ecosystem.
The both ecosystem are actually host spaces
every blessed day.
I think we actually have a schedule of spaces
from Monday to Friday,
or Monday to Sunday, if I'm gonna be second. So probably I would like to have you on our spaces from Monday to Friday, Monday to Sunday, even when we second.
So probably I would like to have you on our spaces,
like to join, join our community, tap into our ecosystem,
contribute your 1%, you know, to the Bose ecosystem,
become a baller.
And I can tell you for a fact,
you are definitely going to enjoy the gospel of the real world impact.
Thank you very much, my brother and friend.
Thank you for giving me the opportunity for me to, you know,
to contribute to what my big brother just said
regarding to the real world impact and the world ecosystem.
Thank you very much.
I really appreciate you.
All in.
Right on.
What a great show.
Go ahead, boss.
Are you unmuted for a sec there?
I don't know if you wanted to chime in currently on mute oh hello
i like to play uh you know tag with my unmute button hey uh you know isaac i appreciate you
always uh representing the project so well he's always so articulate with his words and every
time that he gets up on stage usually i have to say like amen hallelujah because he's always so articulate with his words and every time that he gets up on stage usually i
have to say like amen hallelujah because he's like you know he's so passionate you know when
he talks about the project and he's so good at delivering the messaging so you know that's what
we try to develop within our community is just a deep understanding i told folks you know when
you first get started in the crypto space if you haven't launched a project before you usually get
approached by a bunch of folks that say, hey, we got a raid team.
We got this and we're going to push your project out there and we're going to post you on this X page and everybody wants to offer you a service.
And a few folks that came into the project early on, Isaac wasn't one of them, but a few folks that came in a project early on that was trying to provide raid services.
folks that came on a project early on that was trying to provide raid services, you know, my
goal was to help them to become convicted about what we're doing and actually truly understand
the mission because I didn't just want superficial promotions. I want them to promote from a place
of passion and really understand what we're trying to do. So some folks came in as raiders
initially, and then they stayed, they became convicted and they said, you know what? I don't
want any pay. I just want to, I believe in the mission.
I believe what we've got going on.
And, you know, for me, you know, if you impact one life, if you can change one life, you
could change one mind, then the project was worth it.
Even if the charts go to zero, you know, if you can change one person's mind and you can
impact one life, then it's all worth it.
one life, then it's all worth it. You know, so I don't do this for the money. I don't do it for
You know, so I don't do this for the, for the money.
I don't do it for the charts.
the charts. And that's a byproduct of conviction. But it's just, you know, it's enjoyment for me to
see that people are aligning behind visions that are worth something. Right. So thank you for
representing well, Isaac. And that's all I got. Thanks. Appreciate it.
and that's all I got.
Thanks, appreciate it.
That's awesome, man.
That's super cool to, yeah,
do things from a place of authenticity
and not just, yeah, to raid for the sake of raiding
and the paycheck, you know.
You take the time to onboard people
so they fully understand.
Like, shout out to Arewa Queen in the audience.
She's been organizing a bunch of spaces around tree gens and onboarding people
and has really gotten to know us and has written some really deep threads about us
and an incredible community member.
I had the pleasure of speaking with her the other day as well on a one-on-one.
Spending that time is one of the best things to do.
is one of the best things to do.
So big shout out to you,
Big shout out to you.
big shout out to everyone who is, you know,
bullish and taking the time to thoroughly understand things.
Because in Web3, a token is only as strong
as the community that's behind it.
And the community needs to take the time
to learn about really what's growing on
and really just back and support and show the projects that you're
passionate about, that you resonate with, that really means something to you. Because
at the end of the day, the truth resonates the fastest. That's what people are going to
connect with is when you're speaking from the heart and when you're, you know, speaking from a place of passion
and something that you genuinely care about, you know, you should never just shill for the sake of shilling.
You know, it's, in the world of social fights, it's easy to like join a campaign, post about something,
get something, and I get that some people do that, but, you know, if you, if you, but there's so many projects out there too, right? Like there are tens of millions of tokens now.
And so pick them, pick them, pick the right ones that are, that are really, uh, really
doing something out here.
You know, no one that's going to be one and done and, you know, pump and dump and rug
and whatever.
Like if people are, you know, just doing this for the money,
they're not going to last.
They will burn out.
They will give up.
They will move on to the next thing.
And if you're the person who posted on your timeline
and your friends or your family or your community bought into something
that you promoted that was one of those kind of rugs,
then it's not good for your
brand either, right? Like you're going to end up losing trust. You're going to end up losing
also your relationships. If you're basically promoting something that steals from people
at the end of the day, it's not a good thing, but it's the real ones who are going to be here
through thick and thin, you know, who have been here for a while, who aren't going anywhere,
who are not going to give up and are going to keep building that are going to
ultimately succeed. And, and, you know,
that's what DYOR is about, like research, the people, the, you know,
the background behind the people who've done this stuff as well as like the
project itself and their roadmap, Get to know them well.
Suss them out before promoting something because at the end of the day,
it's the people that make the difference.
It's the founder and the core team that's going to push this thing
and make sure that it continues long-term to make the impact
that they set out to do, ultimately.
So let's grow.
Love it, love it, love it.
So friends, if you haven't joined the grow-elition yet, there's a link in bio.
We are going to be launching our own launchpad later today,
where you can instantly get 10% within three seconds, practically
instant when you refer friends.
But stay tuned for that.
We're going to announce when that goes live.
But if you just fill out those four questions in our bio, you will be getting your own referral
link to the launchpad and you share that around and then you'll get 10%.
But wait for the announcement.
Wait for the announcement because Dev's got to sort something out on the server first.
But, yeah, that's another thing.
Go ahead, both.
Yeah, Jimmy.
Yes, I just want to say thanks for inviting me up.
It is past midnight over here, and I get up early for work.
But I just want to say thank you for allowing me the opportunity to come up here and speak to the audience.
And thanks for Isaac Ben and all of our coalition partners that attended the space.
I did make some posts for you folks out there,
you ballers that posted funny comments.
You know, I did make a post for you guys to send me a DM.
And we do have an NFT collection dropping pretty soon.
So I'm excited about that.
So you guys can get the balls in your wallet
and rock them in your PFPs.
And we're going to bake some utility into there. So, you know, looking forward to getting that out there.
We have a nice little Bored Apes Club style celebrity parody collection, one of one hand drawn by one of our female artists.
Because, you know, balls come from females. They're the founders of all civilizations. So I have a female artist creating those big baller collection.
And our Baller Army collection that's coming out is a collection of 111 pieces.
Because I believe in the frequencies of the universe.
So everything we do is rooted in meaning.
So 1,111 pieces in that collection.
So excited to drop that pretty soon here so i
appreciate you inviting me up brother and allow me to speak with your community let's grow thank
you for staying past midnight man i appreciate you and yeah bullish on everything you got doing
uh i saw the comment the the doctor wants to do a ball transplant uh that's amazing uh so yeah looking forward to your to your nfg collection and yeah
if anyone has any questions queries or comments before we conclude this space now is the time
come up tap the mic on the bottom left or if you're you know not native english speaking and
you want some you want me to break things down or want a translation from anyone, also feel free to come up and we can break that down for you and support however
humanly possible. Okay. God will provide us first and then we'll get to AK Web 3. All right. I just
want to say one last thing, please. If you're actually here on this space and you haven't
taken something back home, I just want you to take this thing back home i believe that you being on this page is a great opportunity a great privilege for you to learn
on learn and relend now when you learn you stand a chance to immortalize your footprint in the
sense of time when you learn i can tell you that you stand a chance to contribute your own quarter
in the in the pages of blockchain when you learn
history will know you will never fail to recognize that social person was actually here to impact
into the life of the people around him community and also to blockchain as well so now i just want
you that is actually on this space for you not just to connect with people connect with people
that are ready to give you a helping hand not just just to come up on spaces and shout, let's fucking go. Not just
to come up on spaces and say, oh, I am listening. But you should actually
come up on spaces and connect with people. Connect with like minds of people.
Connect with people who are doing everything humanly possible to transform
the blockchain space. Connect with people who are sacrificing their time,
sacrificing their integrity, their prestige
to ensure that they are building something sustainable.
Now, connect with people that believe
in the potentials of humanity.
Now, you that is actually here on this space,
ask yourself a question.
What exactly am I coming to do on this blockchain space?
Ask yourself a question.
This project I am actually tapping to,
what is actually the potential?
So now, for you to what exactly the potential so now for you to
strive in the blockchain space this is the
area and this is actually the era
of you connecting I'm pretty very sure
if you are not following the
host and the co-host the speakers
on the listener section you are missing
something you are missing something that
you should actually be paying a hundred bucks to let
you are missing something that you are probably
going to be paying $200 to lend.
So you now being on this space, take it as a privilege.
Take it as an opportunity.
Take it as if God wants to bless you.
Take it as if God is actually using these light minds of people,
these great people to impact into your life.
So this is one thing you should never take for granted.
Now, I want to tell you one thing.
I want to just give you one last talk, yeah?
For you on this space, ask yourself, what exactly am I doing?
Are you coming here to shout, let's fucking go?
Or you're coming here to contribute your own quarter to the chapters of blockchain?
Are you coming here to shout, let's fucking go?
Or you're coming here to support people that are building something very sustainable?
It is all about the money.
It is all about the hype. It is all about the hype.
It is about the potential.
So for you to tap into any project, my dear brothers and sisters,
go and look into the problem.
Ask yourself, what is that problem is this project solving?
It is not just shouting, let's fucking go, let's pump your back.
It is the problem at which exactly coming to solve in
the blockchain space it is a contribution the impact felt on this project you know you could
actually tell me that there are projects that are coming up on the blockchain space but yet still
they do not have any tangible thing you know to show for they do they cannot actually identify
that this is the problem this is what they want to come out and contribute. Now, for you to do these things, you need to connect with like minds of people.
If you have not been connecting, start now.
Start right from this moment.
Follow the people that are actually here.
Connect with them.
Support them.
Join their communities, whatever they are building.
Be a part and parcel of this history.
Be a part and parcel of people who are backly belt
something sustainable for the greater future for the generations yet unborn
because I will tell you one thing that history will not fail to recognize your
name that yes both came both with a funny acronym scheme both did something
outstanding something marvelous something amazing now both actually
succeed not because both actually had the idea both succeeded because you
contributed your own quarter to the success and the good of this project
now this would exactly came a lot of lot of amazing project was a very
come not as if they came on their own because you contributed your own quarter
now this is to be a testament
to the fact that you could actually beat your chest and say, yes, I contributed my own quarter
to the success of this project. So you that is actually there, you that is actually listening
to me, join the communities of this project. Educate yourself. Tell yourself you want to be
a part of a moving trend. You want to be a part of a success story. I can tell you that God in heaven did not come
down from heaven. He will never come down from heaven
to bless man. God will always
pass through man to bless man. And that
is why he created
man in his own image and likeness.
In this case of blockchain, don't
be deceived. God will not
fall down from heaven to bless you. He will
pass through the amazing of this
host, the co-host you know
balls and a lot of amazing projects to impact into your level into the level of the community
so now are you ready for this blessing are you positioned for what exactly coming you could
probably be hearing that take exactly the future but the question is how position are you you know
i like to tell people you can never lie to You know, no matter how you could deceive anyone, no matter how you can actually deceive people
around you, but the inner self, your inner self, you can never lie to them. So ask yourself,
how positioned are you? How ready are you? I like to tell you that the tech is actually
revolutionary. Tech is actually transforming. Yes, when it transformed from web 3 to web 4,
are you ready for what is actually coming? It transformed from web 1 to web 4 are you ready for what is actually coming
he transformed from web 1 to web 2 from web 2 now to web 3 now we are going to the era of web 4
how positioned are you it is high time for you to position yourself join the community see how you
can also contribute your own quarter i think this is actually one thing i like to tell people when
you want to jump up into a particular project make sure that this project is actually giving back to the people is contributing your own water so now what
is actually holding you for you to join the community join this project and be a part of
those who are exactly immortalized their footprint in the sounds of blockchain thank you very much
the host thank you very much the co-host you very much, my big brother and friend, the Balls Ecosystem, Mr. Mike,
for bringing this amazing initiative,
the real world impact.
Thank you very much, and God bless you.
Yo, gotta love that passion, man.
Bro, speaking from the heart and from the balls.
Dude, I appreciate, you know, and it's so true like um you gotta come you know learning coming here it it can be valuable
we had someone who was literally there the first ever dow on here before dropping dropping some
major alpha balls is uh you know the founder a boss on you is you know dropping some amazing leadership experience and like all this stuff is
insanely valuable and also the alpha that can be shared in these types of
streams can make a big difference so so yeah thanks for coming through and
sharing your passion bro like really appreciate you straight up like it's a
it's really really cool okay a case been patient with a hand, and we'll get back to Song of Om swiftly thereafter.
Go ahead.
Okay.
Jem, Jem, my boss.
Jem, Jem, the three things, the co-host.
Jem to the speakers, to the listeners, Jem, everyone.
Firstly, I will congratulate myself and our community
for this achievement.
It is a great achievement to us all.
Congratulations.
I really appreciate this.
May God bless you.
I'm really appreciative to be part of this community.
Indeed, I land on this community
so that we can achieve more from the community.
Due to our population, to our community, also community, we just try to educate our community
on what you are building because many people don't understand what you are even building yet
so that's why we just try to translate whatever you are building to our local Hausa language
so as many people will be on boarded and then many people will know that this is what you are
building since when our since when i start seeing what you are building, I started researching on it, trying to get
some niche on it.
So unfortunately I just get something so that our community will benefit from it.
As I know that the hosts have already known about what you are building and the community.
So we are building something very important to the community.
Our community is a great community whereby we have a large population of people,
but many of them didn't have the knowledge that they would impact it
and then get what you are building from the project.
So we need your support by giving us the maximum support to accept our request
so that we can build our nation, our communities, our household communities,
so that they will know what the project is building.
And then understand, learn from what you are building.
As I've said, many of them didn't know what you are building as i've said many of them didn't
know what you are building yet so we need to improve and then and then teach them what you
are building assign them show them the way so that them today can have a good effort from it
so thank you for giving me the mic thank you for making
me as the a person that's be the winner I'm really appreciate I'm really
appreciate thank you sir and then we give a maximum contribution to the
project thank you much love AK let's grow let's grow. All right, Song of Om, you're up next, and then we'll get over to Mike Udy.
I just have a clarifying question.
Earlier, you said before we conclude the space,
how long do you think we're going to go for?
Because I think I need to go back to bed.
I'm exhausted.
Yeah, feel free to pass out.
No worries at all.
I don't know.
I didn't set a deadline.
We can always keep it going
if people have questions and stuff.
I want to make sure all questions are answered.
But yeah, also got some things I want to get done
and get this final phase of the presale operational
on a new launch pad as well as our
launch pad with the two tier referrals
and the .tgm. We're going to have three
different pre-sale mechanisms
live at the same time for phase three.
It's going to be wild in the final
countdown before TreeGE.
And I think that works out really
well to be on Indigenous Peoples Day.
I think that's a great
way because we always want to make sure that we are a grassroots approach to everything that we do, right?
To make sure that we are working with Indigenous groups and empowering them and also onboarding them into our TAO as much as possible and having that Indigenous knowledge built into what we're doing.
And so, yeah, I'm excited for that to happen on the 9th.
The Tree GE is upon us, guys.
It is upon us.
And that's when the real work begins.
We got so many really exciting things in the roadmap.
We're launching Proof of Tree Protocol.
We're launching our first ecological asset, MGRO, so that people can be earning multiple tokens when you
stake TGN and become a verifier.
And then we're launching our Socialfy platform in a few weeks after that.
And yeah, just a lot cooking.
Our NFTs are launching this week too. They reveal.
And yeah, we got a lot happening.
.tgn wallet addresses really soon as well, so yeah, they're all ready, I just got to
get all the green listed people to Timo, and yep, so stay tuned.
If you're not in our Telegram yet, we're close to 5 000 people t.me slash tree gen fam
we have tons of impact alpha in there and what i mean impact alpha i mean like we literally have
like tens of thousands of investor contacts whether it be impact investors or angel investors
or web3 investors like databases on databases grant opportunity trees in there and of course
we share all the latest
updates around tree gens in the updates channel. So you can see a detailed breakdown of our
tokenomics. You can see a detailed breakdown of our white paper, our green paper rather.
You can ask any question that you got. We've got a bunch of competitions that are happening. We
just finalized the invite contest, but there's a bunch of others
that are coming live on there.
So latest alpha,
you want to be in the TG.
I just planted it up in the garden
over at the tippy top,
far left,
jump on there.
Song of them,
you want to go back to bed,
no worries.
I totally get it.
Thank you for coming.
Yeah, I can say it as a co-host.
Okay, to keep it live,
yeah, just pass out and leave it open.
All right, sweet.
Yeah, exactly.
And if I happen to win the giveaway for the dynamic,
I'll just telegraph.
Right.
Okay, I'll hit you up.
I'll hit you up.
We should do that soon.
We should do that soon.
Yeah, we'll do that toward the end.
No one let me end the space before we do that.
Sometimes I forget to do the giveaway and then end the space. So we're doing end the space before we do that. Sometimes I, like, forget to do the giveaway and then, like, end the space.
So we're doing that.
We're giving one away.
And I hope I win because I'm going to give it to my uncle.
Nice.
Who's indigenous and is aligned.
Onboarding.
I love it.
I love it.
Yes.
Fantastic.
We want your uncle involved.
If you want your uncle involved, please do on board.
Please do onboard.
Okay, so you do have to tag three friends on this post to enter.
Tag three friends.
So I'm going to count up the number of people who did that.
Wow, some people just went ham and tagged 50,000 people.
I would say each comment where you tag
three friends can be an entry, but
if you tag 50 people in one comment, it is
one entry, just so y'all know.
Cool, cool, cool. Alright, we
got a bunch of hands. I think Musa was
next. Then it was MyKudi.
Then we'll get to Abu Bakr.
Asad is joining us up here as well.
Griffpock back in the audience.
Love to see it, let's freaking grow
Go ahead Musa
Musa
Mr. Ahmad
There you go
Okay GM, GM, GM
Everyone, speakers
And the host and the co-host
And the rest listening us, my people
who this.
Yes, you know my people here, especially African, my people, Nigerian, all of you GMGM everyone
and the three GEN HIMSELF GMGM.
Peace of all, and I want to express my gratitude and my appreciation that 3GIN himself dedicated to me which is number 29740 so this is
a big achievement especially we here in nigeria and northern people thank you so much thank you
so much we are really supporting your project so so so this is not a small achievement so and i give
you advice that whenever
you are going to achieve something that will develop
your project, you're supposed to be included,
especially we Nigerian.
We have a more, you have a big, big communities
so that we can express the, we can show your project
and express it to our communities that the project is not smart so that we can
create it to our local language. So thank you, thank you so much for giving the
opportunity and giving the mic. Thank you so much.
Yo, I'm so glad you liked the tree, brother. It really makes me happy when
people, you know, are appreciating this tree dedication from the Guinness World Records.
And 100%, man.
Nigeria has more mangrove trees than any other African nation.
One of the biggest mangrove forests in the world.
But it has been degraded pretty significantly.
We need tree gens like you and other tree gens in the audience to restore these forests.
and other tree gens in the audience to restore these forests.
And what's beautiful about the mangrove tree is in vast majority of cases of the different varieties,
you can literally just take a propagule off the tree and stick it in the ground.
You don't even need to do a nursery or invest in the nursery process.
You take it off the tree when it's ready, of course, and put it in the ground.
And this can sequester up to 10 times the carbon compared with terrestrial forests like
it's it's it's a wonder tree it it desalinates ocean water and can water itself in a lot of cases
and uh and it's it's uh helps with biodiversity so there's so many animals that really thrive
around them and they support local economies through whether that's fishing or crab farming or
you know ecotourism, all these different
things that can really thrive around the mangrove tree. So that's why we've decided first and
foremost to tokenize the mangrove tree for instant and liquid rewards with our tree token.
But if you plant any tree wherever you are in the world, you can turn that into an NFT
and then people will be able to buy that NFT using the TGN token. And 95% of that TGN will then go to the person who planted the tree and 5% to the verifiers.
So this is our vision.
It's a world where anyone can plant trees and earn a living.
I'm a bit of a mangrove maxi.
And that's where we're starting with that.
You know, if we tokenize everything on day one, like we have a massive sell pressure.
And we got to balance that with the buy pressure.
And I've got 101 different plans to do that.
But yeah, mangroves all the way.
Let's freaking grow.
Stay tuned.
This week, I think the amazing General Magic team will have our MVP live for the proof
of tree protocol, where you can start planting trees and getting that all set up.
Griff, man, great to have you back here on the stage.
No pressure, but I'm just curious,
is there any alpha on the next QAC round,
quadratic acceleration?
I think this is the best way to launch a token, honestly.
When people say fair launch with PumpFun,
that's not fair, snipers and all that.
This is an actual fair launch,
so very, very bullish on QAC.
We're working behind the scenes to get a partnership with a really interesting player in the space.
Not actually a chain, but someone who works with a lot of chains.
So we're kind of heads down, pushing that direction.
Been in conversations for about a month.
So we'll see. It's looking good, but we'll see if we, pushing that direction. Been in conversations for about a month. So we'll see.
It's looking good, but we'll see if we can pull that off.
So no alpha on the date, but we might be looking for like,
I mean, if this deal goes through, it's major expansion.
So that's what we're pushing for.
Kind of a home run swing.
Wow, love it.
Super cool.
That sounds really exciting.
Yeah, every time I see Sophia from Celo or people on the Celo team, like, yo, check out QAC. What about QAC? Go further into this. Because like, yeah, it's like such a great way to align and have people, you know, building and pairing with native tokens like Celo, for example. But that's super cool. Very, very excited for it.
Who had their hand up next? I think it was MyKoodie. Gura had MyKoodie.
Hello, JLJL.
Oh, you cut out
and it was sounding a little muffled. I don't know if you were able to join maybe from a different
device, but it was hard to hear you and I now can't hear you at all, so try to find some better bars if you're able to join maybe from a different device, but it was hard to hear you, and I now can't hear you at all.
So try to find some better bars if you can.
Rumi, what's growing on?
Oh, there's no GM here. Let's grow, let's grow, let's grow, everyone.
Crazy. Do you know how to say GM in Hausa language? Oh snap, I don't know, is it
gro morning? How do you do that? No, no, no, no, you need to let this because the Hausa community
are ready to go with Krijin, so how to say good morning in Haana? Good morning. And how's the language is Inaokwana?
Repeat it.
Let me hear.
Inaokwana.
Inaokwana.
Inaokwana.
Is it fana with an F or a P?
Yeah.
Let's say I-N-A, Ina, then K-W-A-N-A.
Inaokwana.
Inaokwana.
Inaokwana. Inaokwana. Let's growN-A. Kwana. Ah, Kwana. E-naw Kwana. E-naw Kwana.
Let's grow.
E-naw Kwana.
Let's grow.
Okay.
E-naw Kwana.
I'm going to write that down.
I'm going to write that down.
E-naw Kwana.
Okay.
Sweet.
Yes.
Love it.
So you have learned one thing from me here.
You need to put it down.
Yeah.
I'm one of your community.
I'm a very big supporter of you guys.
And I want you to know that I have kept my dragger for me to start, let's say, growing trees in Nigeria.
So, yeah, thank you for all this.
Let's grow.
I'm so glad.
I'm so, so excited to get this Proof of Tree Protocol live.
You guys have no idea.
We've been building this for over two years.
It's been a long time coming.
And we've had all kinds of challenges, everything.
I'm not saying hi to my beautiful sister.
Song of Om, right?
Yeah.
Yes.
Dear Mr.
You dear?
Oh, you have slipped.
From another Mr.
She said she was going to pass out.
I saw some emoji reaction a little while ago.
I'm here.
I haven't gone to bed yet.
I want to teach you guys how to speak Hausa language. Love it. How do you say
mangrove in Hausa? Is there a word for that? What do you say? Do you know how to say mangrove?
Like the tree mangrove? Is there a word for that in Hausa? It's called manguaru. Mangguaru.
house it's it's called manguaro manguaro manguaro yeah okay manguaro all right amazing love it
why is ak thumbsing down you got another way to say it oh no um i want to congrats ak2 for
his winning he got here he's my brother actually actually. So, like, congratulations, AKWeb3. We are happy for that.
Thank you very much.
I love that. I love it when people are just happy for each other, you know?
That shows us real love there, you know?
There's no jealousy or you've got to lose for me to win.
It's like everyone just kind of, like, supporting one another.
Like, this is the vibe. This is the vibe. We love to see it.
We love to see it we love to see it
and congrats ak all right we're gonna do uh the tree gen uh dynamic nft agent giveaway very soon
so if you haven't entered three comments on that post at the tippy top or one to the right from
the tippy top um oh i know a queen is joining us up here. Amazing, amazing. You were talking about mangroves, and I was like, oh, let me post an article that shares a lot of information about mangroves that I wrote.
Yes.
No, I love it.
Wow, this thing got 2.5K views.
Well deserved.
You wrote an amazing article about mangroves.
For those of you who don't know, you'll be mind-blown.
The deeper you go into mangroves, the more you're going to be mind-blown about it.
It really is an incredible tree.
So if you can plant them, you will get rewarded with a liquid token straight out of the gate.
Hopefully later this week it's coming up.
And make sure you're in our Telegram to get the latest, latest deets.
But already we do have an MVP beta out of app.treegens.org.
Y'all can check it out.
I see we got ISAG.
We got Data.
Data Sage just followed you back.
Arewa Queen, welcome up to the stage.
How you doing, Arewa?
Ms. Queen.
She's busy touching tree right now.
Oh, there she is.
Hello.
Let me see GM.
Sir, Jimmy.
How was...
Let me see.
This is PM here in Nigeria.
So, how was your night? Thank you so very much for the opportunity. I have been seeing my community up here, so I don't have any option than to for the support and everything.
So I just want to tell them that they should not worry.
Hustle community is already here,
so they'll get what they want soon.
So they should just sit for our own launching.
So that is what I just want to tell them.
So thank you so very much, Sajimi.
And my shout-out goes to Song.
Please, can you open your mic and please...
Because she's my BFF.
So she has to tell me her name.
She should not pass out.
Hey, best friend forever.
I'm still up.
It's the vibe. it's keeping me alive
no one's learning
Song of Boom
sleep today
well Song of Boom
goes by Emerald
on Telegram
I don't know if I just
doxxed you
but Song of Boom
right now I don't know if I just doxed you, but some...
Right now.
I don't know either.
Pushing through.
Yeah, it means a lot that you woke up at like 4.30 to come here.
That's true dedication right there.
I feel a little crazy because I didn't go to bed until 2.30 and I tried to go to bed. I literally tried.
My energy was just like through the roof.
I was like, I don't know if I'm going to wake up to the alarm.
And then the alarm goes off and I'm like, oh, well, I'm wide awake.
Let's grow.
Oh, my gosh.
Wow.
So you slept like two hours.'s wow i've definitely been there
like you try to you have the best intentions you try to go to sleep at a good time and then your
mind's just racing and so many different things happening um so yeah i think like what's under
valued or underappreciated is an evening routine everyone talks about morning routine but like
actually being able to wind down
and disconnect from work and technology
before trying to get to bed
actually makes a big difference.
But yeah, if you go straight from social media
to okay, now straight to bed,
good luck.
It's not easy.
I have a nighttime routine.
It just didn't work last night at all.
I have an hour- long routine to go to bed and it includes
taking care of my cat. And usually she comes to bed with me, but she didn't want to come to bed
with me. And it like, my mind went into a tailspin because I was like, it was just so odd. Like, she's never, like, she's only done that, like, once.
And it was, like, over a year ago, almost.
So I was like, what is up with her?
Why is she, what is going on?
Why is she being the way she is?
Did I do something wrong?
What did I do?
Like, overthinking.
What did I do to offend this poor cat uh yeah she's like she's like my security blanket because she always like sleeps by my feet or in my legs and it's
just like i conk out and i do mantras before i go to bed too. And I was like, okay, I'll just try to let go of attachment
to my cat. I'll do my mantras because I've done everything else and nothing was working.
Nothing. It was just, I blame it on the moon.
Blame it on the moon. There you go. Yeah. Maybe that's it. Cats will just do whatever they want.
That's the thing about cats.
They're not like dogs where they're just going to take orders.
They're like, nah, I'm doing me today.
Oh, yeah.
No, she was not having it.
So I was like, well, maybe if I pick her up and I put her under the blanket with me.
Because she'll sleep under the blanket with me sometimes.
And she was just fighting.
And then she was mad at me.
And then I was like, fuck, I fucked it up even more. Like, what do I do? She's mad at me. I don't want was mad at me and then I was like fuck I fucked it up even more like what do I do she's mad at me I don't want her mad at me it was like literally a downward spiral
yeah toss is on point with those sound effects uh Griff just while we got you here Griff um
I know this is fancy and you're saying like you start simple, you know, with governance and all, but do you think it would make sense? And is there any solution out there for this for like, qualified decision making, meaning like, if you have some form of like qualification in marketing, for example, you could get some kind of like, you know, verification of that. And that gives you decision making power for all marketing related decisions. Or if there's like, you know, an operational or a finance decision,
or like all these different things, like on LinkedIn, you can have like little badges,
like, oh, I went through this quick little like course thing, I know about this, and then like
proof of knowledge for that. And that gives maybe on a web three context, like voting power in that
I think for like more sophisticated DAOs as they grow,
this could make sense, right?
Like why should everyone be voting on every type of decision,
you know, if things are fully on chain?
Yeah, there's two different things that kind of go in that direction.
I mean, one is more along the lines of what you're saying, where Eigenlayer had a really nice design.
I don't think they're going to execute on it because basically Trump was elected president,
so they're not going to take governance as seriously as they were intended.
But they're just like, ah, we don't need to do governance, screw it.
at least that's the vibe I'm getting
At least that's the vibe I'm getting.
but they
if you find some
I think Trak gave a talk in
I want to say
it was DevCon yeah it must have been DevCon
in Bangkok
that goes through his
the curator system they were going to
develop where
people delegate
their tokens to curators
then curators elect councils so curators are effectively
delegates like in arbitram or optimism but instead of them voting on things they would
elect a council of five and that council of five would make decisions and so the in within a certain context so there'd be like
okay the council for token economics or the council for whatever you know and then you would
have that kind of uh group you could also just have that be an election basically by the delegates
for a person which arbitrum does often and and a lot of DAOs do, like kind of elections for people in certain roles.
So that's like the more organized way.
And then the other way is liquid democracy, like what Pairwise does,
where it's a little more chaotic but you basically
pick delegates and then those delegates can delegate but all those delegates
are within a context so you would have as a voter you'd have your delegate for
you know tokenomics or your delegate for whatever specific dimension of governance
that you want people to be talking about.
Because the person who distributes grants
should probably be a different person
that does technical security stuff
and should be a different person who does tokenomics.
All those people, like the right experts for those different things
should be different people.
And the nice thing about some kind of categorical delegation,
instead of having one delegate who decides for you everything,
you have a delegate for those different dimensions.
And yeah, I'm really excited about that direction myself. sides for you everything you have a delegate for those different dimensions and yeah that's i'm
really excited about that direction myself um but again i think it's for large systems you know and
uh starting small like definitely yeah like you were saying keep it simple
starting small once you get up to the five million kind of mark that's when you have to
get really fancy with your governance and um level up from there yeah or that's where you might want to and you
still might not not want to you know it's like but for less than five million of assets under
management i definitely wouldn't so and so it's the decisions where wisdom of the crowd is particularly valuable and they don't need to be made quickly that small DAOs should still be doing the on-chain voting as opposed to a multi-stake vote.
Yeah, I would even say should be doing any voting.
So those are the types of decisions that should be voted on. They can't be rushed,
for instance, security upgrades. There's no time for a vote for that, whether it's on-chain or
off-chain. And then decisions where context is very specific. Should we make a business deal with this group? I honestly think
that it's usually better to have a clear delegation. Maybe the people might elect
who makes that decision because that's something that could have wisdom of the crowd,
that could be, you know, have wisdom of the crowd,
is it urgent, you know, and yeah, it might be interesting.
But then that elected person makes that decision,
not the multisig or on-chain governance.
I think on-chain governance is probably just, in general,
I think it's a little overrated.
I think it's a little overrated.
It makes a lot of sense for these L2s.
It makes a lot of sense for these L2s.
But I think that the flexibility of a multisig is really worth it most of the time,
even if you have more than 5 mil.
I mean, even L2s, even these giant L2s, you know, they're basically all, I'm on a multisig
in Arbitrum that's like a 9 of 12 multisig that can turn off the Arbitrum network if
there's an emergency.
And, you know, it's like the multisig thing is very real in crypto and should, you know,
we have to accept that and that it makes sense.
There's a reason.
Yeah, definitely.
Go ahead.
You were going to say something?
Or is it a feedback maybe from the open mic?
It must be feedback.
Yeah, thanks for letting me know.
Yeah, that's true.
It's kind of like a startup has to be nimble.
You don't want to get so bureaucratic with all of these committees and did-a-do
when you're still at kind of startup level.
And the same should be true for a DAO.
You have to move quickly.
You have to make decisions fast.
You have to be able to do stuff and then grow your governance mechanisms
with the size
of the dow and the treasury and all that different stuff so yeah that makes a lot of sense makes a
lot of sense and i want to welcome we got ste up here on stage too welcome ste welcome welcome
welcome gm gm how's it going good to see you ste or at least hear your voice
yeah it's good to be here i'm in new zealand now
the uk idea was a terrible idea yeah well now you're on the edge of the world over there
yeah yeah at the end of the world you know go give myself some rings um so um yeah i'm glad
that you got this extended because man, I had a really long flight
last, last week.
My, uh, I think it was like 12 hour journey ended up almost 24 hours.
So yeah, I kind of missed the, missed the, uh, the, the deadline for getting in.
So yeah, I'll pick up some TG this week and eh? And it'll be good to put this on my timeline.
I think I'm gaining traction with the virtuals a lot.
So it'll be cool to see if anyone who likes AI agents is also interested in a project that plants trees.
Well, so every single NFT, our dynamic NFT agents, every NFT is an AI agent as well.
So it's not just like a lot of these AI agent tokens where it's like you have one agent and that's like the kind of KOL page for the project.
It's like we're going to have a thousand AI agents posting and we're going to connect that to SocialFi as well.
So anyone who puts in 200 bucks or more during the pre-sale phase is going to connect that to social fi as well so anyone who puts in 200 bucks
or more during the pre-sale phase is going to get this nft it's limited edition um you know it's it's
the most dynamic visual levels up in three different ways trees funded trees planted tgn
stakes and um and it's and it's going to come alive as an agent so like yeah i think that's a really
good community actually to to connect with virtuals if they're into AI agents.
You can literally have your own that pays you while you sleep.
So let's grow.
Yeah, so I appreciate you being a part of it.
And you're so locked into the social file world.
own social five platform i i brought up that idea that you mentioned of having like oh
maybe like uh staking some to to participate is like a good a good way to grow about it and
um you know and and then also during these spaces we've had people come up with like oh like well
if you have the nft maybe that could be like a multiplier like as you're as your nft levels up
like if you're if you're planting trees and you're promoting the DAO, you know, maybe you could get a multiplier through the NFT as well.
And so boom, like that's,
these are some things probably in like the roadmap of the social five platform.
But, but yeah, but at the same time,
we do want everyone to be able to participate.
So it's like, you know, it's a balance.
Maybe, maybe if you stake some, you could get a multiplier or something.
But, but yeah, just a great time.
Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's a fine line, right? Because you want people to participate.
But at the same time, what I've seen from, from the social fight stuff is people like,
for example, virtuals, they could get yapping points without staking and then they would you know a bunch of people
would get a bunch of yapping points and then now you don't see them the ones that never staked
they're not like posting anything about virtuals so it's like it's kind of like a loyalty thing
you know um but yeah i you know if you want everyone to participate, maybe you make it a small amount or something.
I'm not entirely sure, but it's a fine line
because you'll definitely get people come in
and just try and exploit if there's no kind of staking requirement.
But maybe there's another way of doing it, right?
Because you've got region score and stuff.
So I think that could be a way, a non-monetary way right the region way proof of identity like proof that you've been in the
region space and then that that gets you in uh the cheat way maybe they either do both right
let people with money come in and stake and then let people who maybe don't have the money but have the social capital to also,
you know,
use that.
Yeah.
So region score,
is that like a region dot tips or something else?
I don't know if it's still active,
but, Oh,
you mean region dot tips,
right?
let me have a look.
Okay.
If it's something else,
I don't know,
but,
but if it's region dot tips,
they are actually still active.
I had a call with aanav yesterday about this.
So, yeah, they're still bidding.
It's like volunteering, so it's not super quick.
But they are still moving forward.
Yeah, that doesn't look like region score is still active.
But, I mean, you've got Gitcoin Passport, right? So there's one way. look like region score is still active but um i mean you got bitcoin passport right so
there's one way so yeah okay so region score is a different thing as well okay um
noodle noodle dean has been very patient with the hand so go ahead nududine
Go ahead, Notre Dean.
Can you guys hear Notre Dean?
I can't hear at all.
Thumbs up if yes, thumbs down if no.
Can you hear Notre Dean?
Maybe do the old off and on again.
Yeah, I see you're unmuted, but I don't hear you.
So I'm gonna drop you and then bring you back up.
You've been re-invited.
The Don, what's up, The Don?
Grow ahead, buddy.
The Don, you're still muted.
There you go.
All right, Jim.
Okay, let's see.
What's the right word to use?
Let's grow.
Let's grow.
Grow morning.
I was
calling through X
so I came across this space.
I was excited already because
being a part of the conversation is cool
and having to know that there's
a project like this that
is giving back to the
ecosystem, a project
that tends to protect our biodiversity
and all of those things.
It's cool.
It's so cool.
And personally, I would like to know
a little more about the project.
And I know from the conversations
we've been having so far,
I can get a glimpse of,
I've gotten a glimpse of what it's about.
But I feel like it's going to be fun because I'm a fan of planting,
of having to grow and protect the ecosystem.
I love protecting the environment.
It's a cool thing to identify with.
I feel so comfortable already.
So I would like to know about TGN, if I can get a glimpse of the white paper and go through it.
I wouldn't mind also pushing away my own level of social capital.
Hell yeah, the Don.
I appreciate you, brother.
Great to have you here. Yeah, so if you want to grow through the green paper, I believe you can navigate there from treegens.org.
But if you just swipe to the right, you'll see a link to our Telegram, t.me slash treegenfem.
And then in there, you'll see the updates channel, which not only has the green paper, but also our tokenomics and a bunch of really cool stuff in there to keep the finger on the pulse.
But yeah, let me give you guys the rundown. So first of all, I'm Jimmy Cohen. I personally planted
more trees in 24 hours than any other human in history. It's a Guinness World Record now. The
reason I did that is because I knew it was a stepping stone towards breaking the next record,
which is most trees planted by any number of people in a day. The grow-lition movement that
TreeGen started, which is largely consists of the Ethiopian government, but there's a bunch of other
groups coming together for it. We planted more trees collectively than any other group in history,
714 million in a single day. And our goal is to keep striving for the next goal of a billion
in 24 hours. Let's freaking grow. And yeah, we did the first ever Growlympic Games as a tree planting
competition, and we also launched the Proof of Tree Protocol. So the way the Proof of Tree works,
and this is our core kind of technology that will get us towards the future vision of a world where
anyone can plant trees and earn a living is it's proof of tree so
the way that the proof of tree dap works is planters they film before and after planting
okay within the application you can't find something online and upload it you gotta film
within the app the ai that we train counts how many trees are planted and then our dow which
has a stake governance token called tgn can then do some verification. So by ticking some boxes,
make sure that the planters followed the right methodology. Then 95% of the tree tokens that
get minted go directly to the planters on the ground, and then 5% go to the verifiers.
So when you stake TGN or governance token, you're not just earning more of the same token,
you're also earning these ecological credits, right? These tree tokens, which we're going to be backing with blue carbon forwards.
So we are leveraging carbon credits as both RWAs, real world assets, and RWIs, real world
impact.
I don't know how much you guys know about the carbon markets, but it's currently a 900
billion a year industry.
It's basically one ton
of carbon that's been scientifically proven to be sequestered out of the atmosphere, taken out of
the atmosphere, can be bought by companies either voluntarily, like Google has been carbon negative
since 2007. That means for every ton of carbon they emit into the atmosphere, to maintain that
commitment, they have to buy a ton of carbon right to be carbon neutral and
actually negative and as a lot of ai companies grow and grow and grow like microsoft pledged this
as well as amazon and shopify a lot of different companies um they need to buy these carbon credits
to be carbon neutral voluntarily and there's also the compliant market where you legally have to
um you know beyond a certain point and so that's markets forecast to reach 1.6 trillion by 2028.
That's in three years.
We're going to be a big player in this space because we have an exponential growth model.
Within the next couple of weeks, it's looking like, we're going to be closing our first
ever kind of impact investment for our carbon project specifically.
And this is going to allow us to sell something called carbon fords.
So if you plant a tree today, it takes 25 years to sequester about 300 kilograms of carbon. If
it's a mangrove, it happens according to a bell curve. So the first five years, not a lot of
sequestration. So we're selling the future value of those carbon credits in the short term
through what's called the carbon ford, and this allows us to multiply the trees repeatedly,
which can scale it exponentially,
take a portion of those funds subject to a Dow vote, and then back the liquidity of our tokens.
This is how we can have long-term value of our tokens. It's not an overnight thing. It's a steady
grind, but it does have these exponential growth mechanisms built in. And then we're going to be
backing the liquidity through those. So that's the core thing we built.
It's proof of tree.
Our mission is to create the most rewarding and transparent tree planting technologies.
So already, if you go to app.treegens.org, you can start planting trees and verifying
them.
But later this week, it's going to be, you know, the MVP is launching where you can be
able to earn our MGRO token, hopefully. We're speaking
with Settle about bootstrapping some liquidity for that, but specifically for mangrove trees.
All right. So that's the core thing that we built. Now, another thing that you got to know is we've
developed, I'm quite sure about this, the most innovative NFT ever made. And we have a $100
bounty. If anyone can find a more
innovative nft i will literally give you a hundred dollars okay so it's it's it's a dynamic semi
soulbound token and it's an nft agent so first of all it's the most dynamic dynamic in the sense
that it visually levels up in three different ways so as as you fund trees, as you plant trees, and as you stake TGN,
your NFT character will visually level up.
And the coolest part is that every single NFT is coming alive as an AI agent.
So we partnered with XAID.
So you can type in any KOL's handle.
It'll scan every post that they've ever made
that's publicly available.
It'll train the AI.
And then with one prompt, you can further customize it to your style.
And then it's literally going to be posting in that style, becoming an influencer, shilling the DAO while you sleep.
And since we're connecting this with our own social fight platform, we're launching between four to five weeks from now.
You're going to be able to get paid while you sleep.
Just for, you know, just as you promote.
So you can promote the DAO yourself, but then your AI agent is also promoting the DAO,
earning you the tokens, et cetera, right?
And so that's another core thing that we've built.
And by the way, anyone who puts in $200 for a pre-sale gets that.
Plus you get a .tgn wallet address, similar to .eth wallet addresses.
You can have your name .tgn.eth.
So like that one works in MetaMask.
Plus you can just have your name .tgn.
And this works within a specific application, but AI agents can also transact through it.
So that's like another thing that we're building out with Teemo.
So you get two free NFTs if you put 200 bucks into the pre-sale, or if you don't
have that, you could either team up with friends, buy it together, or if you refer. So if you wanted
the first 200 to refer people into the pre-sale, you also get these NFTs for free. So how do you
refer? Well, you join the Growlition. I have a link in our bio um you you sign up there you put four pieces of info
contact info your base wallet address you get an email um don't uh stay tuned for the update later
uh within 24 hours uh we're going to be launching this part of the pre-sale right now people can
just send to tgn.eth and they can buy in that way but um but this is going to be our own kind of uh
launch pad as well as a different launchpad
that we're watching with later today. So a lot of updates there. So that's the second thing we've
developed. And you can get that by growing the movement. So, you know, we're trying to
regenerate the world. There has been two trillion trees wiped off the face of this earth.
And because of that, you know, people are already feeling the effects of climate change.
And we're taking massive action.
We're leveraging technology in order to solve that problem.
And yeah, so it's really focused on the RWA side of things and a lot of partnerships to make all of this work.
I hope that makes sense. By the way, we were also voted first place three times on Gitcoin grants. If you're not familiar with
Gitcoin grants, it's the most democratic kind of grant program Giveth is also using this
quadratic funding formula. Basically, every quarter, everyone in Web3 gets to vote how these funds are allocated.
They've given out more than $69 million, which has turned into over $20 billion in market cap.
And the way that they do it is everyone gets to vote by donating at least a dollar. They simply
match those contributions using this QF formula. And the formula that was co-authored by Vitalik
Buterin, it heavily weighs the number of contributors over the amount they contribute.
So a thousand people giving one dollar is going to have way more matching than one person
giving a thousand dollars, for example, right?
And then, yeah, so Uniswap came up through Gitcoin.
Optimism came up through Gitcoin.
TreeGens, like I said, was voted first place three times on the Gitcoin grant platform.
And so it's extremely bullish.
And I have a massive debt of gratitude to everyone that has supported us, this passionate community that got us to where we are now. We would not be in the position that we are right now, where we can partner with administrative environment, where we can break Guinness World Records, where we can build all this innovative technology, if it weren't for all of our incredible community supporters that got us to where we are now.
So we are very intentionally designing everything from the tokenomics to our investment strategies
through the carbon projects as opposed to through traditional VCs to make sure that everyone wins in this. You know, a lot of big Web3 startups is they'll give massive allocations to VCs
who get big allocations and end up dumping that on the community.
They make out with a lot of the money and then the community is left holding the bag.
That's typically how it goes.
We don't want to do it that way.
And so that's why we have built this referral system to growth hack it on our own launch pad.
That's why we're building up a social fi.
So we don't have to spend crazy amounts on marketing.
Our goal is to make it to the top 100 tokens.
But we don't have to sell our soul to VCs to do that and have massive marketing expenditure. We can
growth hack this thing and we can reward you based on the effort that you put in to grow the movement.
So if you look in the tokenomics, you'll see not only are we doing the airdrops and stuff like that,
but also we're going to be running our own QF round, our own Gitcoin grant round.
Or maybe probably this is going to be on Giveth. I don't know. It seems like that's not
they're writing down. And Giveth is really
pioneering with so many different tokens
people can get. But basically, we're going to be
matching with TGN
and running our own
TGN citizen rounds.
So it's not just promotion, right?
If you want to help us build
something out...
So Valentine is
building our
web application into a mobile application
um you know you know we didn't have the budget to pay him for that but he's just doing it
um what's uh so centropic regen is uh it has done all kinds of design work for us you know
really gone above and above and beyond um our our blockchain developers even gone above and beyond and
built different things like this. And so if you want to be a tree gen citizen, if you contribute
in any way, right, and as these tokens become quite valuable, you know, 5% of a whole token
supply is going to tree gen citizens over the years. And so, you know, we have ways of rewarding
the community based on what they're doing. I know there's a very long way to answer your question.
That is the entire kind of ecosystem of things that we're building up.
So if anyone's got questions about that, please feel free to chime in.
People who have been very patient with their hands, go ahead, Steve.
You said a word that I've never heard anyone say before.
Real world impact yeah man we had we had the pioneer
of that up here before balls on you sounds kind of crazy but so balls b-a-w-l-s is actually an
acronym that's that's such a perfect all right so it's an acronym it's the values it's
bravery awareness um what is it uh well i mean it fits because the problem when you say region
no one knows what the hell region is but everyone knows what real world assets mean so real world impact that's the term man like holy crap it's rwi exactly
because when you say rwa people just think about like a real estate like for the most part that's
like the main rwa right so i'm like yeah we're rwa but like people gotta know and and refi refi is also like real estate.
Refinancing.
Right.
Refinancing.
That's so true.
That's definitely confusing people.
So I think RWI is.
That is the term.
RWI.
From now on, anyone listening?
RWI.
Screw refi.
RWI.
Moving on.
We need a rebrand. Yeah. R-W-A-X-R-W-5. Moving on. We need a rebrand.
Yeah, R-W-A-X-R-W-I.
Let me tweet that out.
Oh, actually, you know what?
We'll make that a meme.
We'll make that a meme.
We'll save that one.
Okay, so, yeah, R-W-I, let's freaking grow.
I-M-M, what's up?
I just followed you.
How you doing? Jam, jam, jam, everyone. Jam, jam just followed you. How are you doing?
Jim, Jim, Jim, everyone.
Jim, Jim.
Good evening.
How are you doing today?
Good morning.
We're doing well.
We're great and grateful.
Great to have you here.
I just joined the space, not quite long, actually. But I tried going to the Telegram to check the projects out.
But all I see is just group links and likes.
Is it only pre-sale the project is all about?
Wait, you said you only see group links in our Telegram?
Yeah, nothing else.
What's the project about?
Is it only for the pre-sale or something?
Nothing else.
Bruh.
I just spent, like like 15 minutes giving a
rundown of everything you're building it's like bro like how could we do i was i was hold on oh
wait hold on um i don't think you're in the right telegram bro um project only links like
what telegram are you in what's it called three let me check it out here.
Tregens actually.
The name of the thing is TregensDAO?
There's no DAO in front of you actually.
Maybe you're in the wrong one.
So just swipe two to the right and click that link.
TregensDAO.
T.me slash TreeGensFam with a capital T, capital F.
That is the link.
I just reposted it to the top, so it's the first thing.
Yeah.
Oh, thank you so much.
Yeah.
So there are no links in our main chat. We have a link for showyourimpact slash links.
We have a channel for that.
Yeah, it's an incredible community.
Here's the elevator pitch, because I've got to get better at giving the quick one, too.
Tree Gens is tokenizing tree planting through a proof of tree protocol,
and we're backing that with carbon forwards.
Carbon forwards is the future value
of carbon credits. We're also gamifying tree planting with leaderboards and the first ever
dynamic semi-soulbound token, which is an AI agent coming alive to grow the movement.
We're also launching a social file platform that pays you every single second through super fluid.
And your AI agent is going to be growing the movement
and paying you while you sleep
because it can mimic KOLs.
So that's another core part of what we built.
Boom, there we go.
I didn't even spend 15 minutes.
It's like one minute.
That was well done.
Thanks.
Yeah, so that's what we are.
So the pre-sale, man, is like so that you can have a liquidity pool upon launch.
Like if we were to do this the old pump fun way, there would be snipers,
and big allocations would go to people who buy at the sniper price,
and we want to avoid that.
That's the reason we're not doing this kind of like bonding curve
launchpad model. We're doing a pre-sale at a fixed price but we're making it incredibly juicy for
people. Anyone who puts in 200 bucks or more you will be getting two NFTs for free, which I think are
going to be way more valuable than the 200 alone, let alone the fact that you're getting
the TGN token as well.
And those NFTs, one of them is that AI agent that I told you about.
There's only 1,000 of these going to be created.
And 500 go to the first buyers,
and then 200 go to the first referrers.
Plus you get a .tgn wallet address,
which is kind of like a .ens.
So if you're doing cool things in the GrowMuna tree
and you got that name on your username, just put .tgn at the end then we
will be able to use AI agents to send you TGN very easily we can like tag them on here on X
or you'll also have like name.tgn.eth and we can send that in like metamask or whatever so yeah two free nfts plus you're getting this
this token which is backed by real world impact and real world assets um plus we've already broken
a guinness world record last thursday we played a a key role in getting more trees planted in 24 hours than any other day in history. 714 million is the new record that was set.
And yeah, we're on track to get a billion trees planted in a day.
We've already had eight countries wanting to participate in this grow-elition.
And so by next year, World Environment Day, we're going to make that happen.
And that's going to set a lot of things in motion to regenerate the world.
We're going to get a bunch of media attention centers put out something on the wire.
And we've had interest from BBC and Forbes.
So we're going to be making a lot of noise around the launch.
And this proof of tree protocol is the foundation.
And the way that we set things up where anyone could plant any tree
mince that as an NFT
so that people can buy it
using the TGN token
that's going to actually create
a buy pressure on the token
and yeah
but then there's also
tokenized mangrove trees
okay
Nududin
has been very patient
with the hand
grow ahead
Nududin
let's see if we can hear you this time.
Jam Jam everyone. Hey what's up buddy.
I hope I'm audible for now. You are indeed.
Well actually you are about to murder my name Nuruddin. Well you've tried or not.
to mother my name, Nuruddin. Well, you have tried or not. Actually, this is my first time here.
It's actually zero hours here in Nigeria. I'm even preparing to go to my bed. Unfortunately,
I've seen a lot of my Nigerian community here, Data Sage, Ari, War Queen and more of them.
data sage area queen and more of them um actually they are the ones attract me
uh you know into this space and i actually wanted to ask about the project and fortunate enough uh
the second to that the second to third speaker that to this i don't even know how to put it well
second to the last speaker already asked and you've explained very
very well about the uh you know project for over 10 to 15 minutes i'm quite interested in this
project um actually i'm a crypto trader and also um i i do shield project i'm a content creator as
well um i want to know like um are you you hosting this space like serially or just randomly?
And you're talking about the TG. So actually, I am highly interested in the space and I
take my time to go and try my possible best to see that I do a lot of research about the
project. Thank you, Anova.
Right on. Yeah, no, we do pretty regular spaces. So I've done
505 episodes of something called Max Impact as of today. It used to be five to six days a week,
super regularly. And then I started doing 24-7 live streams seven different times for two-week sprints at a time.
And I was live like 18 hours a day.
And I just burnt out a little bit.
And then my regular cadence of like the five days a week like didn't quite maintain.
And so, yeah, you know, we'll do this at least once a week probably more than that um
i think it's pretty important i think a lot of people come through here and learn about what we
got cooking and so i'm gonna yeah i'm gonna be i'm gonna be consistent i think consistency is
more important than like duration i'm just doing these crazy broadcasts you know we did like uh
shout out to i see see Daniel in the audience.
I'm gonna send you an invite.
Daniel and I were live for like 10 hours together
in Vancouver recently.
Just keep it going.
And you know, it's fun, don't get me wrong.
Like I enjoy it, but yeah,
I think consistency is good too.
I mean, the benefit of doing a really long space is you get to work with different time zones, right?
Like it's always going to be not a good time for someone.
And so by doing really long spaces, like you provide that kind of like container for anyone to come through and participate.
So yeah, I don't know.
Maybe we'll do every Monday or wait, it's Tuesday here.
Tuesday.
You know, let's do a touch tree tuesday how about that
touch tree tuesday every tuesday tree gens does a spaces and it'll go for however long as necessary
until all questions are answered and until all interviews are completed
there's no there's no start and end time uh we've been going for three and a half hours so far
and uh who knows when we're going for three and a half hours so far.
And who knows when we're going to conclude this.
Once Daniel comes up here, it'll be at least another five hours.
I don't know.
But honestly, I do have to get other stuff done. So we're not going to go crazy long.
It's not going to be another 10-hour one.
Benzo's coming up.
Just followed you back.
Okay.
So, oh, and I noticed we got Maciek up on stage
with the TGN ticker in the name, my man.
So, Maciek, are you in a place where you can play some music by chance?
GM, GM, 3GEM, 3GEM.
Yeah, I mean, I don't have an instrument, but I would love to sing for you a cappella, you know, if you are for it.
And I, by the way, I would like to, you know, like congratulate all of the triggens who achieved that beautiful, beautiful goal of 700 million trees is like insane you know
so congratulations it's uh it's um you know 2000 of polish people you put into the ground, you know. So for me, I planted a lot of trees in my life.
I cut it as well, a lot of trees.
So when I'm working with trees, it's like a meditation.
It's like almost a prayer.
So for me to plant 700 million good, positive, compassionate, loving wishes.
It's a miracle.
It's a revolution.
So, guys, congratulations.
And Jimmy, you are amazing.
You know that I love you with all my heart,
that I'm sending you constantly,
you know,
power,
power treats through space.
And,
yeah,
yeah,
I can sing.
I would,
I would love that.
Love you,
brother.
Absolutely.
What a treat.
Please take it away.
Oh, give me a second.
Okay, don't worry.
Take your time.
You can just unmute or raise your hand whenever you're ready.
M. Soder, Jimin, just followed you back.
What's up, buddy?
GM, GM, buddy.
So it's so nice to actually join this space. You know. One of my mutuals were on this space, so I just said, let me, let me hop in. But, um, from what I'm seeing,
this is, um, a very, very, very nice, this is a very, very nice narrative. We're trying
to bring back the, the trees, and that's amazing because of of course why because of civilization
many trees has been cut off which has led to deforestation and global warming so
the narrative and the brain man is projected so amazing so that's why I
actually like joined this piece and I'm very intrigued about this and about what
you're trying to do and what you're trying to do, and what you're trying to achieve. And then as a three gen, I hope I'm correct, three gen,
believe we can be able to achieve our goals
by planting a billion trees.
Well, that's a lot, but I mean, we can be able to do it.
So I am Jimine Nsuteh,
I'm a Web 2 and Web 3ute. I'm a Web 2 and Web
3 developer. I'm a
Web 3 hype man. I'm a growth
strategist.
I'm also a community manager
at Profit Oracle.
So it's so nice to connect with you all on
this space. I hope you all keep
pushing and you get your big
big soon. Thank you very much.
Thank you so much, brother.
I appreciate the kind of words.
Great to hear from you.
Great to have you here.
Let's freaking grow.
Tree GE is this week, guys.
I can't freaking wait.
Can't freaking wait.
Daniel's up here as well.
How are you doing, brother?
Welcome, welcome, welcome. Mr. Madelon
bottom left if you're looking for the mute button
he still needs to send me his wallet
oh yeah send Wally
he won an NFT huh
yeah he won the blue
and yellow spotted frog
sheesh what a beauty I i don't have more frogs
okay that that reminds me let's just go ahead and do this giveaway before jimmy forgets and we end
the spaces so okay so you had to tag three friends i'm gonna count the number of people that did that
in the comments and then i'll do a random number generator of that number and then count down from there okay so one two three four five
six seven eight nine ten eleven song of home going ham 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 wow match tag tagged 50 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18.
Wow.
Match tag tagged 50 people.
19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39,
4, okay, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39,
four, okay, 39. Okay, so between one and 39,
number generator, okay.
Let's see, between one and 39.
Drum roll, please.
It is,
it is 12.
So, okay, wait.
I lost the thing.
Hold on.
Okay, okay.
So, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. Ladies and gentlemen, the winner of the Dynamic NFT Agent is Song of Boom.
Yes.
I'm so excited.
It's going to my uncle.
I love it.
I love it. I love it. So Song of Om is doing impact onboarding with the Unc and is an indigenous human being.
Yes.
He's amazing.
These are the humans we need in the DAO.
And that's so cool that you wanted to gift that out and that you put in the effort to win it.
I did.
And we do these competitions
unlimited entries y'all y'all need to grow ham with the comments and some of them uh made it
happen and is now uh supporting in a big way so love it uh just dm us the wallet addy and uh
very soon i will i have to still set him up i'm waiting for his daughter because his daughter
is going to be running the account.
So I have to onboard her onto X, onto Telegram, onto...
I think we're going to set up a Uniswap wallet.
I noticed...
Okay, fair enough.
I noticed that MetaMask just launched social login and sign up.
Oh, yeah, they did.
That's right.
You can just use an email, I think.
Email, Gmail. Yeah. So that makes, they did. That's right. You can just use an email, I think. Email, Gmail.
Yeah.
So that makes it pretty easy for the normies.
Yeah, I will set them up with MetaMask.
I want them on Uniswap, too, because I want to onboard them in Tails and Tazern.
But we got a Uniswap wallet as well.
Did you know that?
Uniswap wallet.
Yes.
That makes it really easy to just swap a lot around.
Yep.
Yeah.
Pretty handy.
Uniswap wallet. Not bad at all okay thank you I'm so
grateful and thank you
to all of you who didn't spam
the comments like I did
there were a couple but yeah no one
spammed it like Sangamon so
you are welcome
hey Macek I'm excited to be with you No one's standing like Song of Homes, so there you go. You are welcome. Hey, Maciek.
Maciek.
Hi, hi, hi.
We will talk in private message.
I'm still behind on some things.
I have not gotten very much sleep, so.
Yeah, I understand.
But I'm doing the research, so, let's keep this you know in the air
sure sure sure
excited
thank you guys
congratulations
congratulations so guys
guys let's
grow
oh lord won't you
buy me a Mercedes
Benz?
So I can sell the fucker to get for us big piece of land.
On this land we will grow huge trees to celebrate life and human change.
Oh Lord, won't you buy me a color tv so i can destroy the fucker use its box
to plant some wheat i wait for wheat to grow strong to bake for treason some power up treats
to bake for treas and some power-up treats
oh lord won't you buy me a color tv
oh lord won't you buy me a night in the town
so i can meet my regent friends who i love so very much
to law to talk about our plans to make our world a better place
focus to make all the children smile please Lord help us fly please Lord help
us fly let's go let's grow let's grow let's grow let's grow let's grow, let's grow, let's grow. Let's grow, let's grow, let's grow.
Let's grow, let's grow, let's grow.
Let's grow, let's grow, let's grow.
Czujemy się dobrze.
Jesteśmy szczęśliwi.
Wzrastamy.
That was awesome.
I didn't know that you could sing.
This is the first time I've been able to witness it.
I can't wait to hear more in the future.
Really?
Yeah.
Macek was the first one to ever make a Let's Grow song.
Live on Let's Grow Live.
We've since had a few people Wow okay we got a couple people requesting and we are a full stage so if you're up here you don't plan on talking anytime soon
just jump on down if you are stay but if not jump on down and we'll let those people up thank you
for your patience if you're waiting let's get get to the hands. Abubakar, grow ahead, my friend.
Hello, everyone. GM, GM, everyone. So excited to be here with the Fusions.
And by the way, congratulations for winning your Guinness World Record for tree planting
their kind of like credibility is really and it shows that they mean business when it comes to environmental impact this is a huge thing and i'm so honored and i'm very much
excited to to have the mic today it's clear that um religions trust us to share our thoughts and i'm excited that i discovered this space today um so man i'm excited
that i discovered this piece excited to be part of this movement this is i think this is not just
a project it is a community effort to change the world i think we need a lot of this kind of
projects that is combining technology and real world assets i think we need much projects like this that will blend both the two ecosystems so I
I am seeing myself as a contributor in the future for this project and I'm
very much excited to be an advocate of this idea because i like it um it touches my heart that this time that i i
search about the project currently i'm even going through a lot of uh through your x page
to see what the project is all about i've been seeing you your posting I've been going through a lot of
the content so I think this project is we need to support this project we as
community we need to come in one place show our show our support, our real support to this, to see that this project achieved something great.
And I will contribute a lot.
Thank you once again.
Thank you all, everyone, for giving me the mic.
Thank you, everyone.
ABU BAKKAR, yo, great to have you here, man.
Thank you so much for the kind words. I appreciate you a lot.. Yo, great to have you here, man. Thank you so much for the kind words.
I appreciate you a lot.
And it's great to have you here.
Great to have you a part of our GroMuna tree.
Make sure y'all are in the telegram to get the latest alpha on all the different ways
that you can get rewarded while adding value to our DAO.
I mean, there's the promotional ways with Socialfy.
Even though our platform is still going to be a few more weeks before it's live, while adding value to our DAO. I mean, there's the promotional ways with SocialFi.
Even though our platform is still going to be a few more weeks before it's live,
we do plan on retroactively rewarding people.
If you're using the ticker, if you're educating, if you're writing threads,
if you're using, you know, tagging our page,
we should be able to web scrape that and give you points for the token streams in future.
We're going to be doing our own citizen rounds using the quadratic funding mechanism. So whatever value you're adding and whatever shape or form that is,
you can have your own little grant page. People donate to you and we match with TGM.
That's another thing. We have our own launch uh where you can refer friends and uh get 10
within three seconds of referring them to the to buy in during the pre-sale um if you do buy in
at least 200 worth you can get two nfts for free they're incredibly innovative they're dynamic nft
agents dot tgm wallet addresses if you don't have 200 bucks right now,
you could team up with a bunch of friends,
you know, get 10 friends to put in 20 each or,
you know, or however much.
Also, if you refer friends,
you not only get the 10% as a referral bonus,
but you also can get,
you can also earn the NFT by referring friends.
So if you refer 200 bucks to the pre-sale as well,
you can also get one of those NF trees. So if you refer 200 bucks to the pre-sale as well, you can also get one of those
NF trees. So let's freaking grow. But if you want to learn all the different stuff, make sure you're
in the Telegram. We're going to be posting, you know, some updates. We're going to be posting
all the latest alpha of how you can get involved, how you can be a part of this, and how we can all
grow together. This is not an overnight thing. It's not a pump and dump.
It's not a quick old banger to do. You know, we have tokens vested over the course of six years.
And over that course of six years, we're going to be doing carbon projects. We're going to be doing
real world assets. We're going to be infusing the value of those into our token economies. We're
going to be connecting our tree tokens and our ecological assets into the fabric of the economy, essentially making for-profit companies social enterprises such that with every sale, they can plant trees.
With every mile traveled on a plane, they can plant trees.
With every app download, they can plant trees.
You know, all these kind of partnerships are coming together.
We've already had many, many different groups funding our trees to be planted.
And that's about to come to a whole new level.
As we do the launch of the Proof of Tree DAP later this week,
as we tokenize mangrove trees and allow anyone anywhere to plant trees
and get NFT rewards and earn TGN.
Because TGN is the currency for the tree economy, right?
The tree economy is where you can buy NFTs that are minted when people plant trees,
get them verified in proof of tree, and then the currency to buy it is TGN.
So we're actually creating a buy pressure on TGN when people go to
fund trees as opposed to the burn pressure as we give out the EMGRA token. So a lot of different
things involved in the tree economy and RWAs is a part of it, but so is philanthropy, right? It's
both business and impact, nonprofit, charity, different people have different reasons for
making a difference right you know some companies are making a business decision when they decide
to plant trees with every sale because it is good for business to do good at the end of the day
that is a beautiful part of human nature is if we see two different products on the shelf they're
pretty much the same quality and pretty much the same
price, but one of them is actually making the world a better place. The vast majority of the
time, we are going to choose that better product. And that means that it's good for business to do
good. And so this is the future. It's already the present. There's already a lot of different
social enterprise companies coming out of the woodwork and evolving into this kind of impact-driven
type of company. But we are going to be accelerating that as tree gens through partnerships at scale
such that with every sale, they can be making a difference with us. And then through Impact
Launchpad, shout out to Daniel, we're going to be supporting change makers
in a variety of different ways
we're going to be doing our own TV show
probably
Dolphin Den maybe
we're still brainstorming names for it
but it's basically like Shark Tank but for positive impact
social
entrepreneurs and impact investors
live
and we're pioneering that in November
without further ado Daniel Madelon,
are you able to unmute?
Good, sir.
Bottom left.
Maybe he's having an issue with the...
Sometimes there was an issue with his previous phone,
he was saying, but we'll get there.
We're going to do this every Tuesday,
Touch Tree Tuesday.
It's Tuesday where I am.
We'll adjust the time.
We'll vary that.
Enities for Social Good, shout out to you.
That's every Thursday.
I'm going to try to pop by on Thursday.
All right, Musa, much love.
I don't know if he's waving because he got to grow, but great to have you here.
I think we got Benzo up on the stage.
You haven't spoken yet.
Defy, Amir, you're up on stage.
You haven't spoken yet.
If you guys have questions, now is the time to air them.
Otherwise, Jimmy is going to conclude the space and get back to the grind.
Burning the midnight oil.
GroK, well, this has been a really amazing space. If you had Griff come up here twice, Burning the midnight oil. Okay.
Well, this has been a really amazing space.
We had Griff come up here twice.
He did a full hour long interview,
told an incredible story,
and then came back like an absolute G and a champion.
Daniel.
I'm back, my friend.
We're here.
How you doing, brother?
Fantastic. It's been great to good. How you doing, brother? Fantastic.
It's been great to spend time with you in person, following everything you're doing.
And I just wanted to give you a little update on how Impact Launchpad has been talking about
our good friend, Jimmy Cohen.
And I was introducing you to a few people this past week.
And I said, would you like to know what failure looks like in our world?
One of our buddies tried to, with a group of people, get a billion trees planted and they only got 787 million.
That's what failure looks like.
Wait till you see what success looks like.
But the bigger thing about it, and I do want to have us all take a thought about this, isn't the trees, but the mines
that were planted. Because let's just take this in as amateur anthropologists for a moment,
right? Nearly 30 million people were involved in that volunteer effort, right?
30 million people. I don't know effort, right? 30 million people.
I don't know if you had to choose which is a bigger demonstration,
is the trees or the people planting the trees.
That's a pretty tough choice, right?
Is there any army on earth in history that's ever been that large?
Performing one activity for 24 hours?
That's what failure looks like. let's see what success looks like oh man i love it i love it dude yeah it's ah it's uh it is an
incredible accomplishment you know like more trees were planted in 24 hours than ever before
you know when i went out went to get out and plant the Guinness World Record for most trees planted by an individual,
and this was my third attempt, and I would have done it 100 times if I had to,
because I knew how important that would be for what we have going in.
And I set out, you know, my goal was that that would someday lead to 560 million trees to be planted in a single day.
If you watch the video that's on the Jimmy page, still pinned, you'll see that that was my intention.
And why did I pick 560 million?
Well, it was because at the time, that was the most that had ever been planted in a day.
That was Ethiopia's world record.
But then later that year, they planted 616 million.
And instead of trying to say, hey, let's beat 616,
I was like, let's just go for a billion.
Let's just see what happens if we try for a billion
because we ended up getting Ethiopia officially involved in this initiative,
plus a bunch of other countries committing to plants on the day.
And it's like, well, what is actually possible, you know?
But it's through what we accomplished this year, you know,
I believe it was 7-14 in a single day, which is still freaking phenomenal.
And the Growlympic Games games the first ever competitive tree
planting guys i'm so excited to release this video because people got more into this than like
a soccer game like like people got so into it it was insane, you know? Um, and that was with a prize pool of like a
hundred thousand beers. It's like about $700, you know, tree gens, you know, bootstrapped that.
We didn't have sponsors at the time. So it was like, let's just make it happen.
Imagine when the prize pool is like a million dollars, you know, Mr. Beast has done lots to
take your hand off the million dollar pile of cash keeps it like and 20 million trees when he passed 20 million subscribers.
Well, now he's beyond 400 million subscribers, you know, and I have the ear of the advisor of Beast Philanthropy.
I'm pretty sure they are going to see the video that we release about the Growlympic Games.
They're going to see it.
They're going to see it. They're going to see it.
And, you know,
and with enough timing between now and next
June 5th, World Environment Day,
we can do a proper
pitch about this and
we need to make this a game.
We need to make this an Olympic sport
eventually. And we also
have the attention of
Head of Sustainability for Olympic Games and eventually and we also have the attention of uh head of sustainability for olympic games
and um and we're gonna be pitching this as an official olympic sport for the next olympics
the growlympics is always a pilot it's a proof of concept and we did accomplish that
in ethiopia last week and i'm super grateful for that and what's to come go ahead daniel
Super grateful for that and what's to come.
Go ahead, Daniel.
I think that anybody that's listening to this,
is anybody willing to raise their hand or whatever to say if this is the first
time a thumbs up is the first time ever hearing about tree gens?
Is there anybody in that position or is everybody experiencing this?
Did you hear about tree gens today for the first time?
Thumbs up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're just hearing about Tree Gens for two years
from today.
Yeah, I'm hearing
the word.
Okay, very good.
So the next time, first of all,
that you hear people saying that the world
is going to hell, you can tell them about
this organization. That's
number one. Number two,
Jimmy, we're all part of this. Everything you just did, right? We're all part of this. And
anybody that is examining you for the first time, if you share this with anybody else, like
if you put a couple hundred bucks into this or whatever you can afford or whatever, or you put
your time into it or money, both, whatever it is, you're building something like, isn't just the words regenerative,
it's actually regenerative, you know?
So like, I just want to say like,
you're bringing everybody in the community around the world,
not just the people who are planting the trees on the ground,
involved in the effort, Jimmy.
That's why this works.
That's freaking grow. Yeah, none of this would be possible without the grow munitry.
So there's a person called Nelly who completely made my personal Guinness World Record possible.
Like literally, if it wasn't for her, we would not have accomplished it on earth day at least when we set out to do it and that was because okay this
is my third attempt the second attempt was in kenya first attempt was in tanzania
we all we needed for the second attempt in terms of approvals to get to do this big planting for 24 hours was Kenya Forest Service on the local level.
So they approved it. We went ahead. Great. We're working with a community-based organization.
Happy days. But the camera overheated. We lost several gigabytes of footage. Had to do it again.
So time three, I thought this was the approvals that we needed. But for attempt three, we also
had a bunch of media confirmed for this, national coverage of media.
And so because of that, Kenya Forest Service said, actually, you're going to need national approval from the head office over in Nairobi.
And they told us this two days before the big day on Earth Day.
Two days.
And I was on the coast.
And so by the time I got there we wouldn't have had time
to get everything approved and it was so important that we did this on Earth Day I thought that was
a very very symbolic thing and I'd people would travel from around the world to be there
and uh but this person Nelly who is helping disenfranchised children and orphans and
completely different government department to Kenya Forest Service.
But she's in Nairobi and she went in there that day, you know, and she didn't leave the office until they stamped it.
She was so convincing, so passionate, so determined to make this thing happen that they agreed and they stamped the letter that day and got the approvals. And not only that, she then came all the way to the coast and she was like
the manager of the entire thing. Like we needed people to be on time for their shifts because we
needed multiple verifiers to keep tally. They had to rotate shifts every four hours.
So we needed a bunch of people.
A bunch of people didn't show up,
but we had backup people from Kenya Forest Service
taking these shifts, keeping tally.
One of them had to be a tree specialist.
So she was managing all those people.
She was managing the food.
She was managing the coffee.
She was managing all this different stuff,
making sure I didn't get skin cancer,
putting the sunblock on me,
making sure I had little snacks at the top of each hour, because if I had a big meal,
I'd like have a slump in energy and to making sure that we were on target. Because my goal was 30,000
trees in 24 hours, more than any other human had planted in a 24-hour period. And it's really
thanks to her that I was able to plant 30,469 mangrove trees in a single day and have all the
approvals and permissions to make it happen. And then there are so many stories like that of people
who, like, she's not a salaried person. She's not a part of our core team. She just loves what we do
so much that she decided that this must happen and she took the necessary action
to ensure that it did. And I know that there's a lot of people like that in this room who are
hearing about this and are behind us. And like, you know, like Matthew, we were having an issue
with our email list because we had more than 2,200 people sign up to refer others to this
pre-sale, by the way. Because we have a two-tiered referral program, we have KOL managers signing up KOLs, we have
2,200 people sign up.
But all the email services that I was trying, and I tried several, they weren't allowing
us to send crypto promotions via email.
Like, they have some weird regulation against that, and so we weren't able to do it.
So he came in and spent, like, several hours with us, hours with us making sure that we got this done.
And he ended up donating or buying $700 worth of TGN.
He ended up referring other people himself.
He ended up giving a ledger as a prize to a person in our community and paying the shipping
fees to get it to them in South Africa.
Absolute legend. Fre freaking love Matthew, man.
When I was doing the Regenestance Party over in Brussels, like, he came all the way from
Ireland with chalk so that we could, like, chalk the ground right outside of the conference
and, like, promote the event.
And, like, he ended up insisting that he would buy me pizza that day.
And I was like, come on, I can get the pizza.
And he's like, there's nothing I wouldn't do for my region family. Like he's just like
living and breathing it and freaking love that guy. And Daniel, your support is incredible too,
man. Like you've helped in so many different ways already. And I know it's just the beginning of
this partnership. And there are so many incredible things that we're going to do together, Daniel.
And I'm so pumped. I'm so grateful that we were able to meet up IRL and I could see really how your mind works and how your vision of the future
is coming together with all these different things from the Bank of Humanity to the Impact
Launchpad to the agreement economy and what you've got cooking there. There really could not be a
better, you know, Launchpad or accelerator, whatever you're doing with
Impact Launchpad and everything that you're doing just as a person, right? Because what are we trying
to do? We're trying to get the agreement of tens of millions, hopefully more than 100 in the future,
right? Agreeing to plant trees to take coordinated action so that we can make history together, right? Our goal is to leverage what Ethiopia has accomplished as a tree day to inspire and
encourage other countries to do that.
And that takes a lot of agreement.
And you know about the agreement economy and how to form agreement better than any other
person I've ever met.
And with a lot of other people, thank you for the recognition of helping me
try to figure out as best as we can what that is.
And I did want to say, you know, before we move into,
you like to sometimes co-create right on air.
So I've got an idea I'm going to throw your way
that I teased you with on WhatsApp earlier today.
But I do want to say first that it's the culture
and community and team that you build around you that makes you and i fit
so well that we place some premium on that i don't know if you put in those terms or not
but i do and that's you know what i observe and experience and it's funny that you mentioned
matthew first right because matthew is a glue and a connection between a whole bunch of pieces that
two other people are disparate about in my mind just fit the whole so nicely.
So I'm really glad that you brought him up.
So I said Matthew there.
I'm actually meant to say Daniel, the other Daniel.
The other Daniel too, actually, was about to say him next because we have also spent a good time together. And Daniel actually has brought to my attention something.
We're very certain that we want to help produce here
within the agreement economy, maybe not immediately,
but very soon in early 2026 is a world game
that one of his incredible geniuses has invented
that I think could like have a serious way to replace
monopoly as a board game like it's it's that good um and so we're super excited basically about the
community that you brought around you but what i wanted to say is this just in terms of the
co-creation thing right as you know people have heard me say uh that we're launching something that we call a
treaty of humanity even the full picture the full name of it is the fuller treaty of humanity it's
somewhat in deference to buckminster fuller but fuller also meaning that it's signed by individuals
not by nations that's its purpose is to declare the end of war on planet earth by human beings not by
nation states it's another way to approach the problem it's not the way just a nice social
experiment we'll have some fun with the game just like trying to make tree planting um a fun game
to make the idea of you know building our connections uh rather than dividing ourselves
is like an individual responsibility so that's what the treaty of humanity game is about
and for us it's more about the conversation that leads to it anyway
but when we go to ghana in september which you'll be joining us at um we will be uh of an annual conference of four or 5,000.
It'll be like 5,000 young Ghanaian entrepreneurs this year.
And we will be doing a bunch of things with them over 10 days.
But just to skip to it is last year, they signed a treaty,
which is somewhat like our treaty for themselves
amongst themselves within their community and they verbally sorry for
this long intro but I hope this is interesting but they verbally signed
this treaty you know it's recited it like the way you recite a pledge of
allegiance or whatever but this year we want them to sign their treaty on our treaty stack.
So the stack for our treaty, which doesn't even release till 2026 purposefully,
they are going to sign their treaty in September.
They're going to be the first use of our application, not us.
Number one, number two, what I'm thinking
is that the commitment stack that is the treaty that they can use for theirs, which is different
than ours, or somebody else can use for like women's empowerment or any sort of commitment
of commitment that somebody wanted to make a list of commitments to save the planet whatever
that somebody wanted to make a list of commitments to save the planet, whatever.
you could get people to sign a commitment to plant trees next year on that day wherever the
hell they are in the world they're just making that commitment and just how many trees they're
going to plant and you can do that commitment right on our platform and it all becomes part
of a human rights wallet which people will go go, what do you mean? Trees, human rights, how are those connected? Oh yeah.
How about a commitment?
Has a right and a commitment go hand in hand?
That's part of the language we're trying to breed with that.
So I just think like,
this is fantastic because now you go into next year with X amount of
commitments before you even start planning a tree.
That's what I wanted to bring to your attention.
I love that.
That's the thing, right?
We need those commitments solidified and 100% public and locked in by everyone involved.
I'm really good at getting the interest and soft commits but like getting it really cemented in and locked in
and everyone, you know, like we're all going to plan on this date. Like that's where I really see
the agreement economy and everything that you're doing to add a massive amount of value in this
movement that we're building globally is, um, is really, yeah. And also, yeah, scaling it and
growing it, of course. But, um, but that's, of course. But that's really good.
Get everyone fully, fully committed.
And I'm already starting between now and World Environment Day 2020.
You have it.
You could have a commitment for a couple of billion trees in a matter of a couple of months.
I really believe it.
You could.
Just what you already have going.
There is this well of support.
See, what you have, Jimmy, is you have a bank of trust that you've invested in building.
You really do you have an enormous amount of trust.
It's I love, you know, the opportunities with Mr. Beast, of course, any any kind of connection, but you're bigger than mr beast in my view right you have a very
off fit you has how i put this you have the ability to be yourself in front of the camera
which can take years or never for people to somehow figure out how to be themselves in front
of the camera and you have that ability that's why
people can relate to you thank you brother thank you thank you thank you super grateful to be in
this position to make a difference and uh yeah wag me has been very patient wag me soon with the hand. Go ahead, buddy. You want to chime in here?
Okay, GM guys.
Can you guys hear me?
Yes, sir.
Okay.
So, first off, thank you to the amazing gentleman that sang that beautiful song.
I just talked on the space. I was looking for some next, just, you know,
listen to some people talk while I walk on my system and I heard that person sing them and yes, the thing was awesome. So I don't know who it was because I was not really with
my phone. So whoever has that amazing voice, continue doing what you're doing you don't know how much
you like what people do
like you know God giving
talents I don't know if I'm
making sense or anything but yeah
nice one bro
another thing I wanted to say is
I've heard about 3GN
since like last year
yeah I haven't checked our DMs.
Our DMs go way back to like 24 July or so.
But I must confess I've already been active in this space
because I've had to build something in real life
and also put it in one time.
So I understand from the perspective of you guys trying to build.
And yes, it's an amazing something.
It's an amazing thing you're trying to do because I understand how it is in, like, the world right now, you know, with global warming and all that stuff.
And people already taking care of the environment.
And to see a project.
Sorry, can you still help me?
I feel like I'm building. I can. It's a little bit muffled, but I can hear the gist. Sorry, can you stay home? I feel like I'm moving.
I can. It's a little bit muffled, but I can hear the gist.
Yeah, go ahead.
Okay.
So to see a project like this,
trying to do something that truly impacts the environment
is pretty awesome.
So yes, kudos to you guys.
I know I'm picking it serious,
but I promise I'll stay around.
Somebody just sent me the telegram thing.
I didn't get to, you know, talk to the person.
But yeah, I just sent the telegram.
Trust me, I'm still new to this 3G and stuff.
Me trying to come back into the space and trying a lot of things.
I don't have something that I am pushing
wholeheartedly with my heart.
So that's it.
This might be it.
I'm in your telegram and thanks guys for
the effort. And I heard
when you were talking about planting
like 30,000 trees
in Nairobi. That's like fucking awesome, man.
How did you do that?
30,000 or is it like 300?
Are you sure it's 30,000?
30,469 mangrove trees.
Y'all can go to Google right now.
Type in J-I-M-I space Guinness, G-U-I-N-N-E-W-S, and you will see the Guinness World Record.
So I was planting mangrove propagules.
So mangrove propagules are pretty efficient to plant.
You can stick them in the ground.
That's one of the reasons why we're tokenizing mangrove trees.
But, of course, they come with their own challenges, mud, mosquitoes, different things like that.
We had to navigate with the tides.
But that's one way.
Another way, dude, I trained more than any other time of my life.
Like, I was doing hundreds and hundreds of jumping squats every single day.
If I had to go somewhere, I would literally lunge there.
I would lunge practically everywhere I was going.
Just, like, build that lower body strength
you know and then and then it's passion dude the end of the day man i slept three hours before this
24 hour challenge three hours of sleep i had this was your third try third try three hours of sleep. Right. Yep. Double three. Hey. 30,000.
So, yeah, I had, like, stress-induced tinnitus the night before.
I didn't even know what that was, but I heard this, like, ringing sound in my ear.
Like, I called in the poor, like, hotel manager at, like, 2 a.m., and I called him into my room.
Like, man, like, you got to stop this sound in my room.
And he's, like, so confused. He confused he's like what are you talking about like um and it was just like
tinnitus in the ear and that's why I couldn't sleep the night before um so I only got like
three hours of sleep but I was so locked in knowing that this would be a stepping stone
towards breaking more world records knowing that this would allow us to regenerate the world in a much bigger and more meaningful way. It's not about how many trees can one person
plant, but it led to the team goal. And that's what allowed us to very quickly, very easily,
at COP29, partner with the Ethiopian government, partner with the South African government,
partner with Palau, partner with all these different groups, right? Different countries, nonprofits, institutions,
companies, individuals, all wanting to join this grow-alition because I was able to prove what one
person is capable of, you know? And yeah, the average number of trees planted per person
increased this year in Ethiopia. And and yeah we played a role in
that and gamifying it and and also doing this growlampics competition but um but again that's
the success what i think that growlampics is right like because i think what you want to do is like
have it be a sport a real sport like an olympic sport right yeah that's right so we we came up
we came up with 10 different games that are based around tree planting.
We only got to do around five of them.
You know, we learned a lot this round.
Definitely, like, the next Olympics will be substantially better,
but it was a really, really great proof of concept.
And so, yeah, things like they they formed teams and then whoever can plant
X number of trees first and then whoever, how many trees can be planted in the next period of time.
And then, and then we did like a one hand plant and then we did like one person was blindfolded
while the other person, uh, you know, is, uh, is trying to plant the tree and you have like guiding
them, you know, as a team of two and we're like eliminating different teams and the other ones carry forward. And, uh, and yeah, we had all kinds of different,
stay tuned for the, for the main video. Um, we had, you know, different groups, like planting
to the center. Another one we really wanted to do, which we couldn't this time, cause we're on like a
uneven, like Rocky Hill. And we, we, so we wanted to go to this massive area that would have been a little bit more ideal in terms of the land, most likely.
But the day before, and there's another spanner in the mix, right?
The day before this Grolympics massive tree planting day, I got a notification from Dr. Adafiris, who's the head of this Green Legacy Initiative in Ethiopia.
And he said that actually foreigners are not allowed to travel outside of Addis Ababa, the capital of Ethiopia,
unless you have a written letter and you have to go to these three different offices and it takes a while to do so. Like you can't do it between now and tomorrow. And so we're like, shh. So I woke up
to that. So all of our plans out the window. We had to completely go back to the drawing board to
make it happen in Addis Ababa, but we just spent that whole day making it happen. Unfortunately,
a lot of other people helped us to make it happen still, right? But one thing we want to do is like
red light, green light. So like, yeah, but you have to like plant a tree like every meter and like do red light green light you know you can't move when someone's
looking at it anyway we had like so yeah you know what i mean like all these games like really fun
and engaging you know even though we couldn't do all of them people got so into it and they were
cheering like we expected because you know but some people like skipped breakfast and like you, it was around lunchtime when we were concluding some of these games.
We were expecting people to leave.
We're like, hey, like, you know, we had water for people, but like, you know, we're like, hey, you know, if you're eliminated, like, please feel free to go home.
Like you can all go home.
And, but they just stayed.
Like everyone just stayed and they cheered on the people.
How many? How many? So. How many people? just stayed like everyone just stayed and they cheered on the people how many how many so how
many people so yeah again with like the spanner in the mix this was what we had okay the the final
number who were participating in this particular game ended up being 62 um we had like 20 000
people in this one massive field um but then we went to like this other location where we had to plant
and then a lot of them didn't go there in the end. And then, but you know, actually it was better
because we had to eliminate. Go ahead. I can hear you. I can hear your overachiever self-criticizing
that it isn't several thousand and only 62. But first of all, let me just say the following,
like in terms of expert market research, even political research, social research, anything over 50 people for a sustained period of time, actually, even in just a survey is already something significant.
But now you have a sustained period of time.
Like that's a very significant thing, right?
It might be better for you in terms of building it that it's only that at that first time there to then figure out how to scale it.
That might have been the best thing.
Yeah, it was a proof of concept.
And by the way, we had two different competitions, right?
Like one is centralized, the physical Grolympics competition for competitive tree planting, making that a sport in one specific location.
making that a sport in one specific location and the other is decentralized right proof of the
And the other is decentralized, right?
proof of tree dap launched a beta that day as well so people could plant around the world
yeah both of those things yeah both of those things so that's that's like that's to me that's
a bat out of the park for where you are right now if you and i were talking about somebody else's
project you'd be very impressed by that you'd yeah, that's exactly where it needs to be.
That's gross.
See, we got D up on stage.
Yeah.
Go ahead, Wai-Wai-Wai.
OK, so first of all, I can hear the passion in your voice.
So yes, I understand you're building something you love.
And yes, nice one.
And like he said, you're having over 50 people like sustained
like in something as different as planting trees,
something that has not happened before.
And for you to like keep your attention,
that means you must be doing something right.
And yeah, you were talking about
tanzania kenyan and i have one question i am in nigerian i like everything that happens other
places it should also come to nigeria and you also know if you've been in this space you would
understand that one of the biggest communities are here in in the Kik'a state.
So have you thought about moving to Nigeria?
Maybe having a black matchup, being one of the things,
creating dreams, all this stuff.
What do you think?
Yeah, it's a little muffled at the end there to hear you.
But yeah, 100% we're coming to Nigeria.
I've shared this before and I'll share it again. One of my great friends and brothers unfortunately passed away. His name is Izzy. And we actually co-founded a nonprofit organization in Nigeria, which is called Tree Gens of Naija. and basically we had already raised,
I've shared this before and I'll share it again.
we had a multi-sig.
There's about $2,000 in a multi-sig.
I don't know if we're able to access it
because there are only two signers
and he was one of them,
but I've just recently reached out to the family
to see if it's possible.
But regardless of what happens to that multi-sig,
we will be doing something in Nigeria.
You know, this man had an incredible legacy
and incredible vision for the world.
He really wanted to empower a lot of people
and regenerate a lot of nature.
And I now feel that weight on my shoulders
to carry that forward and to help, you know,
physically we're doing stuff.
But of course, like a big part of our community
is Nigeria.
Actually, it's now, it's recently become the number one follower group of tree gens is actually in Nigeria.
And Nigeria has more mangrove trees than any other African nation.
And this is the type of tree that we're tokenizing.
And so, yeah yeah 100% man
stuff's happening already
I do plan to go there myself and make stuff happen
and do a Growlympics there
hopefully sooner rather than later
but yeah I'll keep you posted bro
I'll keep you posted
so Dee is up here on stage
I don't know if you have any questions, queries, comments
we've been going for like
4 hours and 20 minutes almost in the next few minutes.
And I got a lot of other stuff I got to get done today.
So unless we have questions, queries, or comments, final ones, if you're in the audience and
you're coming up and you want to share something or throw up here on stage or something you
really want to share or ask, please speak now or forever hold your tree.
Go ahead, D.
Oh, okay.
Tree Jen, how you doing?
Doing well, bro.
Doing well.
How you doing?
Yeah.
I'm all right.
I'm all right.
Yeah, so this is the first time I'm coming on your space here.
You know, we one time had a conversation about planting a tree for me.
You tagged me to one of your posts.
I'm not always active on Twitter like that, but I just wanted to show my appreciation.
It was so thoughtful of you to actually plant a tree.
It means a lot.
I won't even lie.
But yeah, I just wanted to come through to the space,
say hello and show my appreciation. And like the other speaker said, I'm a Nigerian too.
And in the world of cryptocurrency, can actually pivot to Nigeria,
you won't actually regret it.
So yeah, that's just the little contribution I have to make.
Let's grow.
Yeah, 100% Nigeria is leading the way.
I think there's more crypto adoption in Nigeria as a percentage than,
if not any other nation is definitely top five.
Like it's it's massive.
So 100 percent, man.
And I'm so glad you like your tree.
You know, when when this resonates with people, it says a lot about who you are.
If you appreciated that, you are a tree gen as far as I'm concerned.
It doesn't matter how much TGN you have.
It doesn't matter which NFT you have.
You are a tree gen if that resonates with you.
We want you a part of our community.
Our grow muni tree.
So I'm glad, you know, we put this out there and we see who the real ones are.
We see who really cares.
really cares. And I'm glad that you're one of those people, man. Go ahead, Sybil.
And I'm glad that you're one of those people, man.
Go ahead, Sybil.
GMGM, thank you for hosting the space as always and for the third phase. One quick question.
You mentioned there are going to be different launchpads for the third phase and people can
send tokens to TGN.eth, but presale.treegens.org also seems to be live. Is that correct?
Is that one of the ways to participate in phase three?
It will be, but not yet.
Please wait for the grow ahead.
People can buy in, but the referral system,
there's an issue with the server that our dev is looking into,
and he's got to sort that out as soon as he wakes up. Okay, so that means when there will be an announcement in the next few hours.
And then the same website.
Okay, cool.
Yes, sir.
Very, very cool.
Thank you so much.
And also, thank you so much for joining our NFTs for Social Good Space a few weeks ago.
And yes, we are live there every Thursday.
Nice.
What time was that again?
Let me put that in the calendar.
12 p.m. Eastern.
It's not the most Asian-friendly time.
But yeah, 12 p.m. Eastern.
9 a.m. PST, right?
Yes.
Okay.
Well, I should avoid doing Max Impact on that day then.
I'm glad we're doing Tuesdays now.
Okay, so... Ooh, okay, so... It is a busy time. 1 a.m. avoid doing max impacts on that day then i'm glad we're doing tuesdays now um okay so okay so
it is a busy time 1 a.m you know i'll figure it out i'm currently super like early bird i'm waking
up at like 4 a.m every day which is good for you it's been great i mean it's just jet lag but i'm
just rolling with it uh but yeah to go from that to like 1 a.m., I don't know.
It'll be tough.
It's all good.
It's all good.
You did join a few weeks ago, and that was great.
And yeah, we're there.
We're there.
Depending on time zones, it makes more sense in certain times than others.
But yeah, we've been May and Kjartje and Zoll started that space.
and and kate and and zol started that space and then um and a few others 2022 in the early 22
um to just start about talk about nfts that are had a aspect of giving back and then i found the
space sometime in 22 and enjoyed it ever since and so um yeah it's been one of the one of the
constants one of the consistent points and yeah it's just an open space usually.
Sometimes we feature people and stuff.
But, yeah.
So, yeah, super cool that Song of Omer picked our profile earlier.
But, yeah, like props to you for keeping it going.
And also, dude, like congratulations for last week.
Like that's massive. i know you've been
like working towards that for a long long time and 700 million trees in a collaboration with
with tree gens and overall that's like a huge achievement from ethiopia so yeah big congrats
on that thank you man thank you thank you thank you yeah it's an honor to support that and to carry that forward.
Now it's time to use that as leverage to get strong, strong agreements from all of the other countries that we're in touch with.
And as we go to the Africa Climate Summit and COP30 this year, I think those agreements are going to become even stronger and more solidified and then ultimately lead to what we need it to lead to, which is global massive action. You can't
stroll to your goal. You got to take massive, massive action. So, all right, four out of 20
minutes. Anyone else got final questions, queries, comments, things you want to say before we conclude?
Growing once, Growing twice.
Growing three times.
Daniel, you and I got to catch up and do more broadcasts together.
Really looking forward for what's to come.
Thank you for coming through, brother.
Thank you, everyone.
Much love to Crypto Shake.
I just sent you a follow.
Much love to ABK.
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Much love to Mote.
I just sent you a follow. Much love to ABK. I just sent you a follow. Much love to Mote. Just sent you a follow.
Much love to Lightning Forge Games.
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And if he's for social good, much love.
Much love to Alien.
Much love to Ed.
Much love to Songabon. Much love to Leo. Much love to Machak. Much love to C. Much love to D. Much love to Civil. Much love to Kyle Gloomba. And if he's for social good, much love. Much love to Alien. Much love to Ed. Much love to Song of O.
Much love to Leo.
Much love to Machak.
Much love to C.
Much love to D.
Much love to Civil.
Much love to Wag Me Soon.
And much love to Daniel.
Thank you all for coming through.
This is the Tree Gen song.
You can see a bunch of Tree Gen songs in the Telegram.
Get in there.
In the Jumbo.
Let me blow my feet. Let me smoke so weak. Get in there, in the jumbo We gotta make sure we bring the bass for this one, okay wait
There we go.
You got to plant what you eat.
There we go.
You got to water your seed.
Water then.
You got to plant all your seed.
Coronation, plantation.
You can use it for your meditation.
You don't need doctor for your medication.
Just plant a seed.
Don't be patient.
Coronation, plantation.
You can use it for your meditation. You don't need doctor for your medication
Just plant a seed and be patient
Don't you really feel when your body clears down
Don't you feel guilty when you cut down Beauty where you got the dead I know won't make you end up me
Broke the records for planting trees
Keep me trees, keep me melodies
Love the nature and forestry
I know I'll make you slow me down
I know I'll make you dull me now
Follow me to our fruitful ground
Everybody let us grow
Keep my church, keep me nature
Till next time, friends.
Keep doing what you love.
Keep spreading love and making impact.
