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The 3rDimension: Ep.25 Mars Cats Voyage Palm Cats are coming Take 2 🎬
Recorded: April 27, 2025 Duration: 1:36:22Space Recording
Short Summary
In a dynamic discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the upcoming launch of the PalmCats NFT collection, emphasizing community engagement and strategic partnerships with Nifty Island. The conversation highlighted trends in NFT integration within gaming, the importance of rebuilding trust, and the innovative approach of offering a free mint to attract a broader audience.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Let's run it back.
Let's run it back.
Fucking Elon.
My boo.
Oh, it's been so annoying lately, Steri.
But is it for a lot of hosts or is it just you, Queen?
Well, I don't know.
I've seen a couple of spaces that have had to be restarted like we've just done there.
But also, every time I go on a space and I'm a speaker, I drop down every couple of minutes.
It just must be so irritating for whoever's hosting that they've got to keep accepting my request.
But yeah, I don't know what's going on with it.
God, we were on a roll.
I know.
But anyway, how far did we get into anything I said?
No, we just ended up vibing.
Oh, okay, cool.
We saw some reacts from you, so I thought you came back.
No, I was there. I was there, but you said you couldn't hear me.
Yeah, yeah yeah kind of
okay so what I was saying to Jay there was he was talking about having to you know you've got
to prove yourself as a founder and that you're there for the right reasons and all that kind of
stuff and back then it was really hard because the whole space was full of rugs and people were
getting wrecked and all that kind of stuff and and so you did have to prove yourself which was
made slightly easier because you know i know that jay was heavily ingrained in his community we were
the team that now exists for moon apes the same with rick we were all like really integrated into
the project and knew it inside out and knew the people
that were still hanging around. So that made it a bit easier. But now we don't really have to sell
that story so much because we've got three years proof of work of why we're here and why we took
over and that we did what we said we were going to do. So that does make it a little bit easier.
And now is the time that, you know, it's okay for us to say, right, now we're going to launch a collection.
Or here's what we worked on for two years because we've earned that credit.
So that's all I was trying to say.
Yeah, 100 percent.
And you know my feeling around people that do CTOs.
I take my hat off.
I mean, you have to rebuild all the hype.
It's not like a mint, right?
Because with minting and whitelist, people grind.
People dive into the Discord.
People are engaging.
They're building relationships.
And you kind of form this community organically.
And then, yes, the flippers end up leaving.
But you have this base community that
you can kind of work with and start guerrilla marketing but a cto oh my gosh you know you
gotta you gotta first build up the hype again give away money do rumbles for this give away nfts so
that people can actually hear you shouting out on the timeline.
So I always take my hat off to all CTO teams and new founders of projects,
especially when the previous founders ran off with all the Mint funds,
because then you've got to start eating baked beans for a month
so that you can start initiating on the things that you want in the project and and
whatnot so so big big big props to the three up here you know rickstar jb and mad queen uh it it
takes a lot of shoes to fill and it's also very easy to just kind of a month in say oh fuck it
it doesn't work you know and and kind of walk away and have no kind of affiliation and
and shift the the whole project off to the main founders that rugged in the first place so
so big love to you guys for sure yeah i think i think there's another there's another element to
it as well um from personal experiences and i'm only imagining because i haven't had a project
From personal experiences, and I'm only imagining because I haven't had a project from the start.
I do with Yetis, but that's separate.
Is that when you're there and you are the one that shows up every day.
I mean, I went Web3 full time when I took over Moon Apes.
So, you know, you are there showing up every day and your community sees that and they get behind you.
And then the market
does this slow roll on you so in our in our case that was actually a bit of a blessing because it
gave us the time to to create and build our 3d assets but what it does is people get jaded um
no matter not just in your project but in the whole of the space with the bear and the vibes
you know they all drop off things become quiet people go off back off to do their real life, like Jay did
in the beginning when he started mining and just left stuff in a wallet, they forget about it,
they get on with life. And then they come back and it's like, Oh, you guys are still here.
But I think the thing that I take the most personally is that you know those people who stood behind you and kind of championed
you for so long when those people kind of drift off that and that kind of feels personal because
they're the ones that have been there and they've seen how hard you've worked they've seen you put
the you know the time in and then they they go and list and they they list on the floor
or they don't pay royalties and and you're like hold on a minute guys you know what we've been
doing here without any compensation for for three years and and i feel i take that quite personally
whereas if we had a a mint fund to start with um you'd had the financial attention you've got the the rock you know those people came with you you
weren't introduced later when you've got that I think it's a lot easier than having to constantly
prove yourself with minimal budget because you do have to be creative you do have to be frugal
you do have to keep giving before anything and then it's like you know it it does it it's
impossible for it not to get to you when you see this like real lull in the market or this lack of
people around because you can't stop i can't stop anyway i can't stop um but you're kind of working
into this void of silence and you feel for the people who are showing up,
you know, those 30 or 50 or 60 people
that do show up regularly
and you want it so much for them more than anything
and it's just out of your control.
I think that's the bit that it's that
out of your control element
that it doesn't matter what you do,
the decision will be made by many,
not by a few. So, yeah. i think there's also the thing of like when when you when you're an old holder and they've been
holding for like a long time and then you put in the work and then you start to like get some
movement some support uh on the floor and everything and they come in not being active not understanding
what you've been grinding through like you know last few months or last years and in some cases
and they just go ahead and they just list and you know or when when people expect something
like from the project that was never promised by you obviously being a cto that's also very
difficult you know for like expectations
that have been set like since mint and all of that it is difficult um i must say with with
with my project luckily i am going to have some sort of uh mint funds still available so i'm very
grateful to like the founders for not dragging that and just taking all the money and leaving.
Although that's obviously still in progress.
That's what I'm busy working at at the moment, getting all of those legalities sorted.
But I think CTO, like Siri was saying, to get the hype back, I think is probably one of the hardest things.
We were saying to get the heart back, I think is probably one of the hardest things because
how do you, it's kind of like when you, when, when you cheat on someone or when you have
like a, a, a rift in a relationship, it's active.
The trust is broken and then they associate the project with a broken trust, no matter
what you doing as, as a, as a new, new, a new new founder new leader of the projects i don't
want to say founder but leader of the projects um yeah it is tough it is very tough but i will say
there's there's good things about this you you have these diehard members that have been riding
for so long you know that these guys are like the the cream of the crop when it comes to community members so
my thing is just like cater to those people cater to the ones that are still there and give them
exactly what they want and they'll be the ones like shouting from the rooftops that you know
your project is the best ever so yeah that's just two ways i'm looking at it at the moment but it's
definitely a crazy journey uh because obviously i've launched
the project and then i've ctoed a project so i've seen both sides of it and definitely like
launching it is the easiest part you know getting it out it's maintaining the utility the value of
the asset and keeping people happy in the project, like to keep 100% of people happy is almost impossible.
But I think of you keeping like at least 70 to 80% of the people happy in your community.
I think you're doing a great job.
And it's a shame that sometimes the loudest voices are the ones that are not happy, you know, because they often come from a place of you know
it's it's not really founded on anything you've done maybe they've got uh problems at home you
can just sense it sometimes because they come in at like early hours of the morning like fuming
and so it just feels like it's IRL stuff being taken out on the like project sometimes I don't
know how else to put it but it's the way it feels um
we've been very lucky rick in that we haven't had any of that at all we've not had any real
fud um we've had people drift off and people but what what about from the original founders
no they they disappeared so we kind of i think we in a way we saved them because the way that
we negotiated was that all of the assets needed to be handed over for us to you know we presented
a whole plan of what our roadmap was going to be and what we intended to do and then at the it was
like we got all the lawyers and everything sorted out and we doxxed, the team doxxed ourselves and all that kind of stuff.
And then at the 11th hour,
we saw some funds being slid in a way quietly
that they thought we hadn't spotted
because they weren't listed in all the assets.
And Endra, our current dev, spotted it.
And I just said, look, that goes back in overnight,
all the deals off and you can face the music because there
was some music to be faced like when when it went down there was a huge like people were fuming yeah
but but that that's what i'm talking about yeah so you did have that fight at that time but that
obviously wore off when you guys took over yes yes so in in the three years that we've been there
there's been virtually none which is great and and we haven't there's been no reason for anybody to fudge like if you
if you can't give a reason for fudding then there shouldn't be any um so yeah we've got it's a
really nice culture i would say in the lab um definitely um and and that's probably what's
kept me going is is for the people i I really appreciate the people. And Jay, like you, my comfort zone is not actually here.
It's not in public speaking. It's not on socials.
And I always say that my best self is in written form.
But, yeah, it's part of the job and it's part of what we have to do because nobody else is going to come up and stand up for us and share what we're doing. So, yeah.
Jay, I do want to come back to you, because you've got something cooking in 3D.
So do you want to tell us a little bit about that?
Why you decided to do 3D?
What the plan is for them?
And how long can people expect to be waiting until they can get their hands on them?
Yeah, definitely.
And I also echo a lot of the, you know, what you guys were saying on, you know, community
building and how, you know, sometimes people lose interest and stuff.
And it is tough sometimes to not take it personally.
And it's, I think that's kind of like probably the, you know,
the work, the personal work that we all have to, you know, that we all do on a daily basis,
right. It's like trying to kind of get above the noise, if you will. But yeah, it is, it is
definitely, you know, one of the challenges, right. Especially when you put so much.
Sorry, Jay, I think you can also take consolation in the fact that when you look around you that
everybody's in the same boat like you know exactly yeah and it's the same no matter how successful
or new or old they are everybody's just feeling this quiet period
and it's yeah it's it's tough to stay positive about the world, about like NFTs and stuff.
And like we try to, I think what's also helped a little bit for us is that just having community chats and having a bit of a touch point with the community and re-explaining kind of like where we see the market maybe going, where we see, you know, the, you know, things like, you know, even political stuff that's going on,
like, you know, just giving people that, that, that, I think, that touch, I guess, with us,
I think is going, is helpful for them to know that, you know, we are on the same page, and that,
you know, if they are feeling a bit like that they, that they're doubting
things, like they're like, you know, worried about stuff, you know, we're not, right? Like they have
to be able to look at us and to know that, you know, we're not doubting, you know, where things
are. And, you know, it's just about kind of continuing to let people know and to test the
signal out with them and making sure that,
you know, they understand the vision as well, right? Because it's not always clear, right? Like,
you're confident about the project for a bunch of reasons, right? Like, you maybe have a mental
list of like three or four that you've communicated. But then like, every month or two,
people will forget one of those items, right? Or, you know, three months down the line, they've already forgotten two of those items, right?
Five, six months down, they've forgotten the three, right?
And it's like, then it's like, you've got to kind of continue to, okay, we got this, that, this is why we're still, you know, why our of the vision, even though it was like an art-based project, initially, like a lot of stuff was back then.
When, you know, stuff like the metaverse was popping up, Sandbox, Decentraland, you know, we got, the whole community got ridiculously excited. And I think a lot of us, myself and like a lot of people I know, that's when I think a lot
of our bullish sentiment really got, you know, lit on fire, which is when metaverse narrative
was kind of popping up. And it made a lot of sense to us that played video games, that played in
these like MMORPGs and stuff like that. People that were like big into like runescape and things like that made complete 100 sense to them and it's crazy too like and just kind of bring it back to nifty and we've
talked about this before it was considered like really bad etiquette or even like it was considered
like it was massively irresponsible as a project to not have $20,000 in land, metaverse land.
Communities were yelling at people for it. If you didn't have a piece of land in Sandbox that was
at least around 5E, you were considered a horrible leader. You're going to leave your community
behind. This is horrible shit. People were screaming across the mountains yet to get it
and now it's worth like you know the piece of land we got is like worth i think 150 bucks or
something like that now or whatever um and now nifty you know you can do it for free right you
just get like a to be integrated it's as easy as getting one avatar to represent your communion you
can you know you can scale up from there right um. But yeah, we've always had that, that vision of like wanting to be in the metaverse. It made the most sense to us. And a pathway of
making that happen. Like we had looked into Sandbox, Decentraland initially. And when we
took over, we spent some time looking over the different, the different metaverses. We had,
we had a lot of work to do to fix kind of some of the mistakes we had like on chain, like we had this like on
chain token we had to completely get rid of, because it was with gas prices and stuff was
just murdering people. And we couldn't, we couldn't have that continue. So we had to fix
a lot of that stuff, a lot of the discord stuff, a lot of um um the way that even the website worked like like a lot
of that stuff had to kind of so that set us back a few months like when we initially took over uh
but then after that you know looked into sandbox to central and looked into doing some stuff in
ordinals as well um and pixels was going live as well which is kind of like a think of like
a pixelized version of like metaverse,
I guess, right?
It's like a indie game farming sim type, type, type a game.
So we're also fully integrated into that and Biggin did all the art for those, like all
the sprite sheets.
And he's probably pulling his hair out when you can see AI doing it now in like, in like
two seconds.
He had to do all that by hand and uh you know took him a whole a
ton amount of time he like locked in for a few months and just like i barely even heard of him
and then he'd show me what he's working on i'm like damn that looks like insane uh all the
different like all the work and gifts he had to prepare um and nifty you know when we got into like the early the closed alpha um because biggin was like
a big uh um community member of nifty even in like the early days when it was like still uh closed
and he said like you know i think that they've got like a really good chance to to do something
interesting here and it looks like their beta is going live it took them a while to get to the
point where they would go out into a beta.
And so we'd gotten involved early in alpha.
And then when things looked like it was gonna be opening up,
we got some avatars ready, we got some,
we talked to the team and we wanted to make sure
that we had some assets claimable, like to, you know,
the bloom rewards and stuff like that through gameplay
and continue to add to that
as well which was sort of our our way of um of kind of re uh you know falling in love again with
what we wanted you know this collection to to look like in a in a metaverse environment right which
is like you being able to kind of walk up to the spaceship and check out the lore, being able to, you know, interact with like the landscape, like whether it's like before launch on Mars, you know, all the different other pieces that are going on.
And, you know, so it only made sense. And what we're trying to do with Palmcats is a bit, it's a bit different.
with palm cats is a bit it's a bit different um there's it's something that's that hasn't really
been done before it's been sort of attempted in in previous um in previous it's it's previously
been tried to attempt in decentraland but i think based on the way decentraland worked
that was kind of a bit of a limiting factor um but um yeah we're trying to just
factor. But yeah, we're trying to just how can we unravel a story in a, you know, an easy,
free, open world, right? And so PalmCats is going to be people's ticket to access that.
And so we've got our we've got our mint on on Wednesday, and we've got six different types
of avatars you you
you could be getting so it's like ultra it's very much kind of like it's it's tied to a bit of that
nifty nifty lore and we're also taking the opportunity to to look at to build out some of
the lore that's connected to the kind of the origins of Mars cats. So Mars cats are genetically modified cats that are sent to space, right?
Dogs messed up, apes messed up. So then they're like, okay, well, let's get some,
you know, let's get some, let's get some cats. They,
they seem to be cunning and you know, that the perfect animal to try it out.
And it seemed to work, right. And it's a secret project too.
So probably there's other apes that are on other secret missions right but that's just kind of like the
um the fun story um and probably other dogs and other animals too but it's a secret project and
and so only the best cats that pass all the training and stuff are allowed to go up the
into the ship to go to mars and then the the even and the best of those get a spacesuit so they
can fit up spacesuit and that was kind of one of the cool things when we first launched too
which was like funny enough that was considered like you know groundbreaking back then which was
like an on-chain um being able to um dynamically change your nft to like uh you know suited up with
like a different spacesuits and it was like an on-chain transaction and stuff. And people really, really love that. But we get to go back now and say,
okay, so cats are off to Mars, but there's still cats that are being trained on Earth while Mars
cats, you know, have departed to, you know, to Mars and stuff. So what's the story of the cats
that are back on Earth that have to continue training
but also with that feeling that you know oh we didn't quite make it you know like we're kind of
the rejects or we're kind of like the you know we didn't make it but you know we're you know we're
now kind of uh you know we're we still want to make a name for ourselves we want to you know
you know work hard to to to you know to explore know, work hard to, to, to, to, you know, to, to explore something else, right? Like we want our journey, like we want our voyage as well, right? So that's kind of the origin story of, of, of Palmcats. Something happens is going to be lore that's dropped on Monday. So something happens that, that transforms them, that they, you know, they interact and transform. And they, they then have this ability to, to go into different realities, right. And
so it's connection to nifty different islands, different,
you know, different ecosystems, stuff like that. And so people
are going to be able to through palm cats, you know, explore,
explore that story more. So it's kind of like an exciting, it's
not so fun having to,
like, I think I was joking to, to people on the team. I'm like, it's not so fun having to run
this thing. Cause like, I much rather be like the player and like being able to, you know, to
enjoy it and, and you know, interact with it, but it's, it's it's going to be because of how
exciting it is. I think it's, it's worth, because of how exciting it is i think it's it's worth you know
going through the kind of the puzzle of of of making it all happen but uh but yeah so that's
that's kind of what what palm cats is is uh is about it's kind of like our doubling down on on
that sounds good uh definitely ahead of most people because we always speak very often about the fact that 3D is the future and projects are starting to catch on now.
So let's get into the details, Jay, because we like details here.
So you're minting on Wednesday. Do you have a mint price that you can share?
Yeah, so it's free. It's a free mint.
Okay, great. That's a tick for most people, I guess.
They're on Ethereum, are they?
They're going to be on Ethereum, yeah.
We're going to do base, but I think because of the Zora stuff,
we didn't really think it would be a good idea to maybe distract, right?
I can see how Layer 2 has made sense.
So it's something that we considered when we took over the project.
Like you say, in 2021-2022, gas was extortionate and on-chain staking was just unaffordable for most people.
It was a nightmare.
So, yeah, changing to soft staking or layer twos made sense.
your layer twos made sense.
What will people who mint PalmCats get in terms of files?
So for the files, they'll be able to download their avatar.
So we've also added a couple of days ago.
So all our original avatars that we added to,
that people get access to when they just have the, like a MarsCAD NFT in Nifty Island.
We also uploaded them separately onto Nifty Island, but without the VR tune shader, which
is what our avatars have that are integrated into Nifty.
But we wanted to give people the option of not having the vr
tune so they can interact with light bit better um and we made them a bit smaller and and polish
them up a little bit more um and so people can also go on nifty and download um through the
metadata file like just go to the link download the um the avatar and uh do whatever they want
with it really so same thing is going to happen with the PomCat avatars.
Yeah.
So what file format will the holders have access to?
VRM.
VRM, okay.
Yeah, if people want more,
we're happy to make other formats available too.
Okay, so content creators want to create content,
they can have access to the
blender file if they wanted it yeah sure yeah sure great that's good that's that's important it's
something that we we like to reference Terry we've come across a number of 3d projects over
the last couple of years that are pretenders and you get a 3D render when you mint one of their 3D projects
and then that's it.
So for us, 3D means you get the files.
Okay, nice.
Yeah, we were gonna do putting everything up on Vipe.
Like Vipe used to have this, I i'm not sure if you guys do you remember
vipe the they were kind of like big and nifty early on or no you don't you don't remember them
yeah yeah um but yeah so all you do okay okay and yeah so we're gonna be integrated into their
platform and and um uh like and i think like a week before,
then like a week after something like that,
they then closed up shop and stuff
and just kind of like left the space entirely,
which is a bit sad.
And, but yeah, we were gonna do, have our stuff on there.
And so we'd worked to get our files ready
and all the metadata in shape so that, you know,
it's like if people wanted to kind of reuse it, like, you know, it's got all the info in there on like, you
know, what, you know, do they have to, all the basic kind of copyright stuff or whatever.
And so we were kind of looking for another place to do it.
And now since Nifty has that open source ability, it was like a great idea to kind of just like, hey, let's just, let's just
add it there and not have to kind of work on a new piece of our website to make it available.
Let's just like put it onto Nifty and let people know what to do with it. And anybody that reached
out that wanted like the blender files and stuff like that, we just like gave it to them like,
like no, no, no worries, right?
And we just didn't think, you know what I mean?
Discord is a bit messy, right?
To like, if you post like a file somewhere and even if you pin it, it just, it doesn't really like,
it's not very good for findability and stuff.
So yeah, having something like Nifty
where you could just go and like download it
like directly off the platform itself
that's hosting it, that's ideal, right?
So yeah, we're going to do that
with like the avatars too and yeah.
Yeah, I've got to always add,
Nifty added such a game changer to Web3 3D.
They made a great platform for content creators, gamers
and now this whole marketplace minting experience.
I actually see your Palm Cats Mint Pass is up on the Nifty Island marketplace.
I see in the video as well, you've got, you had said six palm cats from common to ultra,
and those will be the skins.
So how is it broken down in terms of rarity, or is it just split between the 700 and 77?
No, yeah, that's a good question.
So yeah, today is the last day for people to get a Mint Pass.
And for the, like, you know, Monday, Tuesday, we'll have a few airdrops going out for specific
groups. And people want to check out, you know, go check out the Marscats pinned tweet. And we do
have only a few left that people can buy in Island only, um,
on the Nifty Island marketplace. And people can only get three max that way.
Um, and in total, they can only have six per account, right?
So they can have three that may be earned through playing games or going on
quests and then three that they got on with Island or three that they maybe
have gotten, you know, with cream from our ecosystem.
So if you are interested, there's a few left in base,
and we're gonna be using all the Island
to run the events that happen after PalmCats.
There's gonna be utility drop after PalmCats,
and then people are gonna understand
like how that all fits in.
And so for Ultras, there's only gonna be nine of them.
And then for the irons, there's gonna be 437.
And then in between it's gonna be,
it's gonna get less and less rare.
And like the, you know, the rarest,
I mean, the more and more rare,
and then, you know, the rarest is like, is ultra.
And as an example, like the neon is only can be 21 of them,
right. And so there's going to be, so there's gonna be perks to holding each of them. So we're
gonna have, we're gonna reveal more after reveal, the way that they're going to work with our
questing system that's coming up, but also how people will be earning, let's say, or like, you know, earning rewards each period, right?
So there's going to be a, I'm already saying a little bit too much, but I mean, it's, there's, there's, there's going to be different perks for sure.
And they're also going to interact with, with different items that are already in, in Nifty too.
That's another piece of alpha
we haven't shared yet so that's uh so yeah so we're trying to do some some fun um some fun
um interactions like that make it that make it and you know um a cool experience yeah yeah sounds
great jay um i've got one more question and then we're going to go to EAC and Moonbeam so they can ask their questions.
Why did you decide to do a free mint?
Because we here know that it takes a lot of time and money to create 3D avatars.
What made you decide to go free?
Yeah, that's a very good question.
Yeah, that's a very good question.
So one thing that we wanted to do is that when we did the marketing for it and we drew
people to what we were doing with Palmcats is we wanted to sort of do it not as quiet
as possible, but we wanted to make sure that we're that we're attracting all the right people so um
at least for what the you know especially the the purpose of this um afterwards we're trying to go
after um people that are active in nifty island we're also going for people that are active in in
in mars cats of course someone that's been hasn't been in the discord for four months might be a bit
disappointed but you know that's um unfortunate but if you're just you're the Discord for four months, might be a bit disappointed, but that's unfortunate.
But if you're just gone for four months and expect to have some reward for that,
I mean, we can't obviously run a project that way. So Palmcats is really a way for us to
to attract the right people into what's coming afterwards.
So we've got something coming afterwards that's that's going to it's going to be revealed after reveal.
So also the reveal mechanic that we're going for is something also that hasn't been done before.
So there's going to be a bit of testing.
We're hoping it's going to go smooth, but there's going to be a bit of a, you know,
testing process because it's, it just hasn't been, been done that way. And we're also in,
you know, integrating all this, not just with questing and nifty, which is pretty cool. It's
decentralized and all that stuff. You can load prizes and the game kind of just does all the
calculations and assigns the, the rewards, but we're also timing it with, you know, big events like live streams, live music as well. And, um, um, working
some of this stuff too, with some of the beta stuff that, that Nifty is working on, uh, behind
the scenes and, and having, you know, having, um, some knowledge into like, you know, what,
what's coming down the, um, what's coming down the, what's coming down
the road and being sort of having some stuff ready, ready for that. So yeah, it's really,
that's kind of why we're going free is like, we also wanted to kind of bring people in,
have that shock factor that, oh, damn, you thought it was going to be, you know, we were going to
have a, a priced mint and there's nothing wrong with doing those prices but then having that shock factor making people feel special that they um um that they got something early and that they
found something and that they you know they know that they're special in a sense um that's something
you want to really make sure that people got and and and and understood um and saw it as like a, as a present. And they're also going to be part of something that's very new.
So it's, it's going to be our way of testing out that,
that mechanic and how those things kind of work together for what's coming,
you know, shortly after that.
I've got to say JB that normally I'm like, ah, just a nifty avatar.
You know, many people are doing that, but it's super dope that you're doing things that support it with the law, with the events,
and whatever is in the pipeline in the back end of nifty and whatever you guys are cooking with, right?
Because I picked it up somewhere that you guys are doing something different.
So I'm keen to see it. um yeah i dig it you you're going to build out a whole ecosystem and
it's not just going to be an avatar that someone plays with but they're going to
get some benefit from holding it as well
yeah absolutely and and of course oh go ahead go ahead queen sorry
yeah and i was gonna say and like probably another piece of alpha too that i could i could say is that
um you know the magic of like you know when you're minting an nft right there's kind of that like you
know that that anticipation you've got something that's unrevealed you're waiting a couple days
it's a bit of alpha and then there's like that reveal event.
And then everybody kind of gathers in the discord and it's like, oh shit, the reveal. Wow.
Look at, look at what I got. You know, it's awesome. You know, like that, that kind of magic you, you feel like some of those, you know, those special times where you kind of mint an NFT. It's
like, imagine what that could be like, but in kind of a nifty, right. I think that's already
some alpha works. I think you can kind of feel
what we're trying to go for there it's like it's it's getting replicating that you know you know
and then um doing and then continuing to to do that through um you know what we're trying to do
with like our lore events quests um and you know working with n with Nifty to try to see how we can, you know,
do something fun. You know, of course, they could be a, it could be a massive, you know,
waste of time and not go anywhere, you know, type of thing. But I really think it's like
Nifty is ready for it. I think they've got the stuff that we would need to kind of make
it, make it special enough to kind of make to keep doing it.
And so it's one of those things where it's like, it's something that why not try to do it, right?
And see if people enjoy it. And if we think it's super fun, then we're going to continue doing it.
And if people don't think it's fun, then it's like, yeah, well, that's an easy choice.
We'll just, you know, move on to something else.
But, but yeah, and it's, yeah, so it's free.
So, so come on and, you know, you got nothing to, to really lose.
And yeah, we'll see if it's, we'll see if it's fun together.
Sounds good.
I think I've guessed what you're going to do, but I'm not going to spill the beans.
So before EAC's hand falls off, do you have a question for Jay?
He's been waiting so long.
This was the moment he decided to go grab a drink.
Went to the bathroom.
I mean, he doesn't want to echo.
He's going to moonbeam and then we'll come back to you.
Hey, this is catartastic.
I love this.
I've seen cats and Mars together on the same line.
I was like, I've got to come in here. I can barely hear the mad. I don't know if it's my ears.
I love your art. This is freaking awesome. But where is, and I'm a caboose, where is the free mint?
Do you have to go on Nifty island to do it or because i want
quite a few of these these i can't break
oh that's awesome um yeah like we're gonna have a few there's like a raffle that's on right now
in the discord all we're gonna give one out um at the spaces i'm not sure how we would do it if you pull through the likes or replies,
but I'm happy to have a mint pass sent out. And it's going to be on Wednesday. So at noon on
Wednesday, Eastern time, and it's going to be on OpenSea. And that's another thing too, is that
Nifty right now, they don't have the contract.
They don't have the infrastructure to do what we're trying to do.
So it would have to be minted through OpenSea
or some other launch pad,
and then have metadata that works with Nifty.
So that's the way we're gonna do it.
Because if you do it any other way, the issue with nifty so that's that's the way we're gonna do it because if you
do it any other way the issue with nifty so people know it's like you can't mint a collection and then
have items in that collection right you can only really mint individual items that are just part
of this like one giant nifty island collection um and they did that because it's like they're just
trying to get more items in more more assets in, like even their palms and stuff like that, right? Or even like the, the bloom rewards, which are like their premium assets and Nifty, they're not on the Nifty Island marketplace, like they weren't natively minted on that they were minted on like OpenSea, right? Or like a custom contract. So that's, that's what we're gonna do but eventually
um you know we're hoping that that nifty does kind of upgrade their infrastructure to have
stuff because that'd be ideal right mint directly on on that's a cool idea it's gonna be on open sea
yeah i can't wait i want one definitely yeah i want a couple i love these and that's a good
idea for nifty island i love that i'm in the process of making my own island.
And there's a lot of things that I want, ideas I have for it.
Because you could put your NFTs on your island, too, and sell them through there.
That's what I like about Nifty Island.
Gosh, I can't wait to get a cat.
And you said it's Wednesday?
Yep, Wednesday at noon, yep.
Okay, definitely follow me.
I want to get one.
That would be so cool.
So, JB, I just want to run it back for the whole process, right?
So, we go into Nifty, get a pass, and by having that pass, we whitelisted for the OpenSea Mint.
Am I catching this correctly?
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
And so there's only about, yeah, so for Island,
so if you did have Island or you can convert it pretty easily
using like Relay.link if people aren't familiar.
using like Relay.link, if people aren't familiar.
So you could just get it on base.
So you could just get it on base.
And I think like a mint pass right now
is like around $4 equivalent in Island token.
It was a bit less, not too long ago,
but there's also, we have a few giveaways today.
If you're playing Nifty,
there's like a quest that's on for the day.
We've got three mint passes up there.
So if you want to wait to see that first, try some of the quests, try some of the giveaways.
Like today at the space, we'll do a giveaway.
And then we'll leave the sale for the mint passes on Nifty Island Marketplace up until the mint.
But like around Tuesday, like, you know, midday, we're going to pull them down and then just get the, you know, the mint but like around tuesday like you know midday we're going to pull them down
and then just get the um you know the mint lists ready um so yeah so there shouldn't be a public
sale it should be just everybody that has their their their mint pass um um mints and you know
uh we'll leave it open for like two days enough to remind people that might have a min pass and then reveal is going to be the following week.
And there's going to be a nice event on that. And that's where I think you'll be part of like that, the experiment, the, you've seen in the video too it took a while for our um our designer to make it so that if people are are you know playing nifty often it's metals don't always
look good sometimes it takes a while to kind of get make metals or that shine that you see in a
metal um uh look the right you know as good as you'd want it in like a clip or an animation or like a video um so he spent a long time making it so that you know it's looks great in blender or whatever
suite you're looking at and also in nifty island right it looks really freaking good and so and
we'll also have so lore is going to drop on monday and then on uh wednesday so the morning of the mint we're
going to have the um the extended trailer for for palm cats um so you'll get a little bit of a closer
view and and stuff so it's it's cool yeah you you definitely right about that nifty islands dynamic Lighting hurts. Really, really hurts avatars.
Sometimes you got this fresh avatar and blender.
You can render it out so sweet.
And you put it into Nifty.
And you're like, what the hell is going on with this texture, man?
It's an absolute mess.
And then they have all the different themes of each island.
You know, people can choose their lighting sources and the colors.
And on one island, your dude's looking super dark. The next island, your dude's glistening.
So someone's going to pop you in the head quite easily. So big ups to your 3D artists that
managed to balance that through all the dynamic lightings and sunsets and sunrises and mid days
and all of that. It is someone that's put in a few avatars into Nifty. It's one of the biggest
headaches of Nifty. Sometimes you just blank out the metals and go in with the plane because it
just makes life so much easier, right? And then...
Vitech, R.
Oh, go ahead.
No, no, sorry, carry on.
I was just saying, Vitech, yeah, R.A.R.D.
is like the amount of times he sent me DMs
and he's had to do all the testing on like half the,
what's it called?
Half of the, not refractions, reflections and stuff,
just to try to make sure that it would look good
in most settings.
Obviously, if you crank up the reflections, reflections and stuff, just to try to make sure that it would look good in most settings. Obviously, if you crank up the reflections, it looks, you know, wild and like,
you know, really, really shiny and lustry, but it still looks very good. And like, you know,
if you crank it down, but yeah, just so many times I can being like, man, it's taking me forever. Like, why doesn't this look good? and different metals didn't look that good so yeah
lots of lots of work on that is there a certain place on like when i go on nifty island is there
a certain island i have to look for because i'm not really savvy with it uh like what i could do
is like if you um if you check the pinned post um or even better yet, what I'll do is I'll just send you a DM with the post, and it'll show you all the info.
Cool.
This is so cool.
I love the art.
Your artist is awesome.
Appreciate it.
Thanks.
Thanks a lot.
Hope you like the video.
The trailer is going to be dope.
Or even just look at the Marscats Voyage post, like the last trailer on that.
Just to, it'll give you a bit of a taste to see what.
It's so cool.
I mean, they're like right there on the couch.
I mean, I'm an artist too, and you got me.
That is, I mean, that is awesome.
I very rarely see art that I'm just like, you know what I mean?
I like a lot of the art and a lot of the things,
but he went in a completely different direction that nobody's gone in,
and that's freaking cool.
I like that.
Unique.
Oh, thanks. Yeah, I'll make sure Lemno. Appreciate that. No, it's very nice of you.
Oh, thanks.
Yeah, I'll make sure Lemno.
Appreciate that.
No, it's very nice of you.
And JB, I believe you doing a giveaway in the space for a mint pass, if I'm correct.
That's right.
All right. So we don't forget, I'm going to run it in about five. We're going to jump to EAC after this.
But retweet, drop a comment, a like, you know know the story if you've been in web3 enter
let's win yourself a sweet ass mint pass to get some cool palm cats maybe you get an ultra don't
fucking fade right but let's get it eac you're back from the bathroom gang what's happening
oh no like i was here i just didn't know I was getting introduced, but yeah, thanks for having me up.
And I think like Nifty Islands is great,
but I think that the mass adoption event
is the first game that comes from the console,
but not only that,
the first one, the Web3 game that makes it to MOBA.
So I wanted to turn you on to like Unreal Kingdoms.
I don't know if you heard of it,
but it's dropping on console just in a a couple days here on multi consoles is a multi-media metaverse and yeah i can
hook you up with the the owner um if you want to talk to him but it's like um why not diversify
right like that's to everyone who's got like 3d assets like yeah play nifty but um but um i'm
definitely encouraging unreal kingdoms because i'm
super bullish on on this one being the game that changes like the mass adoption event like maybe
it is maybe it isn't but uh yeah like uh definitely check it out bro like i'm not just like up here
it's not my project i'm just i'm just super like hyped about it. No, gang, you're good. You're good. Look, this space is a friendly space.
We don't gatekeep. We don't hush people and all of that.
I've hit you a follow. Definitely follow me back and we can chat
in messages and
just give some information. We're always keen to get people that are pushing the
boundaries of 3d
allowing people to take their 3d assets that they own and and jump into a game so super cool there's
there's new avenues that are coming out you know people people want something fresh and try new
things so definitely we'll we'll we'll hit each other up and yeah, maybe we can have the founder on the space.
We're always looking for guests.
You know, it's a very niche niche that me and Queen do on the space every Sunday to get new 3D projects, get people up to speak and just vibe.
Otherwise, all you're going to hear is a Stere and a Mad Queen and my boyickstar because he's he's gonna pull up as well
and we're just gonna chat web 3 right so yeah no for sure it's always cool code will definitely
um yeah like it's launching it's a free game on console and like steam and all of them um xbox
and uh yeah i definitely encourage anyone here like why not download This free game and run around in it
And try to collect some like stuff
That's gonna be worth money
That's super cool it's crazy
So it's web 3 but they're gonna be on Steam
That's yeah it's the first ever one
If not only Steam bro
Like it's coming on it's launching
On May 1st on Xbox
PlayStation you can go to the store and
like pre-order it and then it's coming to like mobile and switch next and uh yeah this guy code
compiler took like 30 million of his own money to make this happen and he's his lawyers have the
patents to it and stuff so if anyone else wants to do web 3 like they gotta like license through him like it's it's for real bro like this guy like made an offer on an island like he's he's for real and uh yeah
like he's happy to like jump into any of your guys spaces because uh yeah i've never been so
bullish on something to be real well that's cool because i was about to get to that if it wasn't
on an official launcher i I ain't touching it.
You know what I'm saying?
Because you get that nasty, nasty malware, bro.
That will eat your wallet alive.
For me, I work from home, so I got my work computer,
so I'm not gaming on my computer.
And that's good, because honestly, every scam that I hear
is someone connecting to some fucking game getting drained
So like yeah, I'm not like a I'm I'm pro so like it. Yeah, I'm a console like gamer like I'm a
Before I got into web 3. I was a gamer and that's the reason
I'm here because I see the future of like owning digital assets like what everyone here probably
knows what is it who's
a builder like that's like digital stuff matters when you grind for it you want to take it out of
the game with you and like sell it and you should be able to and as soon as like web2 gamers get
that like that's when mass adoption happens so i think that we're we're getting there
that's it that's it what's it. That's it.
What's up, Rickstar, Brian?
Well, I would say we are already there, guys.
We had probably one of the biggest announcements of mass onboarding
over the last 48 hours.
Sui has announced a partnership with,
well, they haven't officially announced it,
but it might as well have been announced,
that they are um doing a
partnership with Pokemon uh and that is the biggest well one of the biggest gaming franchises
if not the biggest in the world um adopting Sui now so yeah this is this is our time like I feel
like this could bring NFTs back um and I'm just so so so bullish on this news because
if they make this successful and people are trading their pokemons that they're catching
whether it's on pokemon go or tcg this is going to make everyone like understand what the utility is
behind having uh nfts you know being able to trade swap and actually own these pokemon
rather than being then them being an in-game asset uh sorry other team ad queen no i just wanted to
ask you about that rick i know everyone's saying that i'm really quiet i don't know why which means
i can't fix it and someone was saying that the pokemon thing was just a badge system initially is that right
uh yeah initially it's just going to be a bad bad system but you got to wonder um why you know
they they starting off with a bad system i just think i can see it being um you know with with
pokemon being collectibles i can just see them integrating this with a lot
more than just badges uh and i mean the the sui tokens up 70 on the week so people some people
know something that's that's all i want to say is like some people know what's going on yeah and
that's it's insider trading obviously because nothing has um has
been like put out I think officially as far as I know maybe in the last like 24 hours um
but apparently a new name called Parasol Technologies uh appeared in um the Pokemon
home privacy policy so you have to actually need to go uh and a look at that. And if you go have a look at what they are, they are crypto.
They are a team of Japanese and American gaming experts.
But this all ties back to they're owned by Mistin Labs.
And Mistin Labs is the team behind Sui.
So people have obviously found this out um and it's in their terms and
conditions already so i can just see that this could be something massive or it could just be
like mad queen saying something like just the badges but then you have to wonder like
so say that again i think that's exactly what i think they're doing this is like a test they're
going to see how this goes and if this goes well they'll probably roll it out to like more assets
so maybe you know in pokemon go you can actually sell and trade your pokemon that you catch so you
go catch like a really rare pikachu or whatever like a seasonal pikachu or articuno whatever you whatever
your flavor is you go catch one you can then go put that on a marketplace and sell that
because what people have been doing is for a long time is they sell their pokemon go accounts on
ebay and i'm like well wouldn't niantic or whoever's running this kind of want a piece of uh the pie you know of
that resale that that's going on there people are selling their whole account just for like one
Pokemon um so yeah that I think that it could go that could go there and I just if it does go there
I think that that's what we've been waiting for it's like a use case where the masses can see oh okay this
is what nfts are actually about not a monkey jpeg that's worth half a million they actually can see
the use case of it and then i think it'll be a case of like oh i'm in call of duty why don't i
actually own my stuff that i'm that i'm buying in in call of duty i go buy a skin i don't own
that when i buy another call of duty i have go buy a skin. I don't own that shit.
When I buy another Call of Duty, I have to buy the skin again or buy a different skin.
Why can I not take that with me into other games even?
You know, so that's where I think that people will be like,
oh shit, so I can actually move these assets around with me.
We want that.
And then you'll get a demand from the consumer.
And then that's probably where that
mass adoption really starts to happen.
I'm so excited about this.
Honestly, I just wish I'd bought more Sui before last week because I even think it's
going to run a lot more because, you know, the announcement hasn't even come out officially
on what exactly it's going to be used for.
So let's see.
Bit bullish.
Yeah, I had the same thought when I saw that SUI run up.
At least now I know why.
I was like, what's going on?
You know what I'm saying?
But it's cool.
That use case that you say will hopefully onboard a lot more gamers because I speak
to a lot of gamers about not owning
their shit I mean I'm the type of guy that
buys skins
we're NFTs right we like to
look good everywhere we go
when I speak to my gamer friends they
either don't give a fuck
that they don't own it,
or they stop buying these skins,
and hopefully it will turn them one day.
Right? That's
the key. That's the key.
One of the things that need to be unlocked.
And super dope
that it's Pokemon. I mean,
it's a huge collector
base.
I mean, I think a lot of people are card collectors in the space.
And like you say, I think that a lot of the problems with gaming and stuff,
if you kind of talk to people and you dig down a little bit,
is that a lot of the top streamers,
and there are some streamers that had a chance to talk to some bigger streamers
that are getting into
these like platforms for streaming where you know you can get rewards for tipping for watching you
know decentralize the whole kind of streaming and content content um participation loop and all that
stuff and but streamers right now get so much engagement by just nailing NFTs and nailing crypto as
being a scam.
Like they get so much viewership when they do that, that it's so difficult for them to
not want to do that.
Right.
Even if they do believe in the technology.
And a lot of them have said that, like, you know, they do think the NFTs are, you know,
they're, they're, it makes sense is that it's, it's just, they do rely the nfts are you know they're they're it makes sense is that it's it's just they
do rely to some degree like to actual to a major degree on you know viewers right so sometimes
they'll lean into negative content because they know it's going to get them viewers in the same
way that you know if they just rip on nfts it'll get them that every gamer if you explain how nfts
fixes gaming they completely 100 agree with it like they
they every single all the people look at all the people that are you know big founders today that
grew up playing runescape look at all the different blockchain uh designers and builders that
grew up playing world of warcraft runescape and wanted to create this technology to avoid
the that was
happening in their in their favorite games right and pokemon is probably seeing the exact same
thing a lot of people are seeing that for something like a a um getting like a um your
reputation like a reputation system you you kind of want that to be decentralized right like do you
really want it to be in this like
software that you have to keep updating that you have to keep like, that there could be like
problems with you're going to have tickets open because somebody's data got like, got like,
modified or, or there's an error, all that, but like you, you want, and especially with AI,
right? Like you want things to be in, a blockchain so that you don't so you have tracking
of data, quality of data is hard is good. And it's also going to save you on the admin side,
right? So a lot of these brands, like they already know it. And it's going to be one of those things
where it's like, slowly, slowly at first, then all at once, like there's even people talking about
like GTA six, and these leaks talking about there's actually a deeper Web three integrations that they're that they have actually worked on, but they
just have like they won't even tell a soul until it's the right time to kind of come
out with it.
But really streamers once they their incentives change as well to talk better about NFTs because
it gets them views and versus the opposite, then I think that's when
we're also going to get, we're going to catch more steam. Right.
I think there'll be like, um, a rebrand, like, um, you won't even be like talk about NFTs or
meme coins anymore. It'll just be the block changes is integrated into it's integrated
into games. And that's just like, people don't even know that they're using blockchains.
And as for like all the different blockchains,
I think we're like super close,
like with what Polygon is doing the aggregate layer.
And that it's just, it doesn't matter like what chain you are.
We're not going to be here repping chains.
It's just going to be one like easy system
that it's all just integrated
and it's not even going to have anything to do with like knowing like connecting a wallet and
getting a seed phrase and doing all that and and and getting like connecting to this chain or that
chain it's just going to be super simple load your game collect stuff that you can get money for. It's going to have to be. I think if we're going to want mass adoption, it has to be that simple
and it has to be safe because that's the reputation that crypto has
is that one click and you lose everything.
So once those big companies figure out the way to seamlessly make it happen
so that you do have a blockchain asset in an everyday real life game
when they figure that out that's when we all eat
yeah that's for sure sometimes it's so risky when people hear how people get wrecked
on the blockchain and and it's one of the the things we need to overcome right but in anything we in 2025
web 2 still getting wrecked right so it's a it's something really really difficult to
to stop and people and i was gonna say too and i think it comes with that narrative piece not
to not interrupt it's like by you i think you're kind of maybe leaning into this like web 2 rugs
the most people if you look at the banks look how many, like look at all the banks and all the fines
that they've received, because either in North America, they aided the drug cartels.
They're being caught in these billion dollar frauds financing the cartels.
Look at what's going on in terrorism in the Middle East, where people are constantly going
up to Congress and testifying, saying that
the biggest concern is that they're using traditional banking system to funnel all
these funds. It's not using blockchain. So the problem is that there's lots of people out there
lying because it gets them engagement. So the news is lying because it gets them the clicks,
the views from the baby boomers and the grandpapas and the grandmamas that want they're watching TV 24 hour seven looking for the next thing to be scared about.
Right. That's they've sucked these people in.
So and they're feeding them garbage information that is just not really true.
Like most people that I know so many people that get, you know, their identity stolen through phishing websites, through things that they click
on an email than people that have gotten that have gotten rugged. And many times, too, some of the
people that have gotten rugged in crypto are people that would have gotten rugged in web, too, because
like they're just clicking on the most random stuff, right? Some stuff is much more complicated
when people send you Zoom links and it's a lot more complex and stuff.
And definitely, I think it would have got most people.
But really, it's like, you know, we just got to change the narrative.
Like, it's really not as dangerous as some people think, right?
100%, bro.
You hit the nail on the head.
I was getting to that exactly.
I mean, my business email address gets probably
10 phishing attacks a day. You know, if you have an info at, they just send it, they mass spam that
and some poor dude's going to unzip a RAR file, you know, thinking it's a quote that he's got to do.
But I just want to add, you got a legend, an absolute legend that won your mint pass.
Cinepanda, huge congrats.
Great, great, great holder in Moonape Lab.
Queen can testify to that.
So I'm sure he's going to be so appreciative of that mint.
And then we've got hands up from William and then Tricky.
What's happening?
William.
Hey, Sterry.
Hey, Matt.
I appreciate you allowing me to talk.
I'm just a simple guy.
I'm just a boy from South Louisiana.
Now, I'd rather cook than do all this.
But, you know, I've unfortunately connected with the Dark Horse, the blockchain, and a very huge crypto.
And I got a couple hundred thousand that is going to be RVed.
And that's fine.
That's fine.
Okay.
When it is RVed.
But, you know, and like the young man who said about Pokemon Go, you know, or Pokemon cards, or anything that you could do as an NTF.
It's amazing. Now, I don't have any of that. Now, I, okay, I'm an old cat. I'm a very old cat.
at. Okay, so my kids,
I got all of the first edition, second edition, third edition,
and they have binders full of it.
Now it's probably worth hundreds of millions of dollars. I don't care.
It's not my problem. It's my kids.
However, however, with
what I've done through dark horse and the ntf that and well crypto that
i've done right and i'm an old school guy i and sisters, is allow you to be who you are and do what you need to do.
The market is always going to be volatile unless there's an RV, a re-evaluation.
there's an RV, a re-evaluation.
Okay, so I have close to a million, okay, that's sitting at 30% or 30 cents.
Now, it may go up to 45 cents, may go up to $1.50.
Okay, my ROI, because I was a retail manager for 40 years my roi on that
will allow me to do certain nefarious things that i want to do
and you guys have to do the exact same thing that's why we're in the space fam that's why
we're in the space we all want to get for all the nefarious things yeah
and and tell your kids to buy some nfts since they like collecting we need new holders
but william that's what we're all doing here man man. We're buying. We're hodling. We're hodling through speculation.
If you were one of the early OGs, you bought Bitcoin, well, your speculation's over, right?
And you're making fat bags, and you're generationally wealthy for you, your kids, your future kids.
You don't have to worry about some pension fund.
You're just styling.
So I really do hope that the coins that you have invested into
can make you a fat bag.
And you're never too old to learn.
And you're far ahead of many people your age.
So big props to that.
And one day your kids can sell those Pokemon cards
for millions and millions, let's hope,
and add to that wealth
But we appreciate you fam for coming up here and and sharing that and then
Tricky you had your hand up as well fam. What's good. What's good?
It's tricky Buddha from
DeFi space donkeys
What's up, fam?
I am having trouble hearing some of you guys.
The Mad Queen is mad quiet.
I was having trouble hearing Will, too.
I don't know if you guys can move closer or turn the volume up on that,
but it would be good for the recording for sure.
Yeah, Mad Queen is like, it sounds like she's in like way far away is so cute
though I know I try to turn if I turn her up and then someone else talks it
like deafens me Twitter's been having some issues I think yeah yeah if my baby
wakes up I'll blame Mad Queen because I've been doing the same thing.
Now she's like, come on, guys.
I know what it is.
Mad Queen's got too much Keith in her microphone hole.
You know, you've got to clean that out, Mad Queen. It's been a wild Easter.
I was going to say something, but someone said something and yelled at me and I forgot what I was gonna say caught
me off guard you're talking about kind of hear it and not hearing and we were
talking about Nifty Island I'm walking backwards trying to figure have you ever
done that like forgot something and then walked backwards? Oh, this is not. Moon, that's okay.
You don't need to figure it out.
Good idea.
Listen, that happened to me the other day.
I walked into the room.
I looked at something.
My wife said to me, what are you doing?
I'm like, shit, I forgot.
She's like, well, go back to where you were.
So I went back to where I was.
And guess what?
I figured out what I forgot.
So it works works it actually works
it really does my son don't ask me he's like mom why are you walking backwards I was like I forgot
something he said look but you can't see I said I know but I know where I'm going
the other the other day I pull out my driveway and I went to the end of the street and my wife's
like I didn't bring the thing and I'm like, I just
I don't want to turn around so I just threw it in reverse
and went back like 200 feet.
Living life on the edge, homie.
Oh, damn.
Tricky, I don't know if I threw you off. I apologize,
bro. I apologize. But Queen's
sounding better. Maybe she took a pin
and cleaned out the microphone hole. No, I'm licking it. I'm licking bro. I apologize. But Queen's sounding better. Maybe she took a pin and cleaned out the microphone hole.
No, I'm licking it.
I'm licking it as I talk.
I'm bent over the desk with my face right in the phone.
I don't know why, so I can't fix it.
It was when I started the second space something went wrong.
Twitter, Twitter, Twitter.
There's also an echo.
I don't know if anyone else can hear that echo.
Yeah, the echo.
Yeah, I do too.
It's like we're in...
Twitter's been weird.
Yeah, like a huge soundproof basement.
Yeah, like the other day,
so I've got my sound system set up
so that I can play music through my mic.
And Twitter recently did an update
where they've got new noise camp new noise canceling
technology or whatever so then music comes out all scrambled and and all messed up at the start
of the spaces it was good mad queen when i did it it was like all messed up so i don't know how
it's voice if you have voice isolation on it'll it'll do that because it's trying to isolate your vocal frequencies and tune out the background sounds.
So it thinks music is noise.
So you can't play instrumentals and have voice isolation on at the same time.
You have to turn on wide spectrum or just turn on standard or off.
I've been trying to figure out where that setting is forever.
It's like at the very, I know Tricky told me that.
I had to change.
It's like when you close your screen out,
and if you have a lock screen and then you unlock it,
you just scroll down and it'll have like the brightness,
the lock screen, the internet, and the Bluetooth,
and it'll have microphone.
And if you click on it, it'll say wide spectrum or something else,
like regular standard mode.
But I've always said it's like Elon has like...
They keep changing the fridge phone and everything too.
It doesn't help.
I've always said that Elon has this like office full of AI robots
and they're Joker or Saturday Night Live robots.
And they're sitting in there and they're doing that,
like making people sound funny. And so they can sit there and get their laughs or whatever. Noonbeam you saved me
you saved me I've been looking for that setting and I just found it thanks because I've been too
reluctant to play beats on a space because I do a test space with like a burner account and it
sounds absolutely trash and I've been I knew there was this setting somewhere and you just dropped the alpha yeah you sound
awesome now it sounds really cool now I'm gonna check mine I don't know if
mine's on the right thing and get this full full spectrum essay accent up in
here yeah now you sound like a broadcaster now a word from our sponsor
iPhone 16 paying off I just thought it was shit
you really didn't know where that setting was still yeah you guys google it man just google
your microphone settings it's different for everyone's phone but for most people it's right
on that front screen will you got your hand up go for it man, man. He's telling angry GTS. Just Google that shit. Jesus.
No. Go for it, Will.
Chris, tell people the answer. They don't
make them work hard. You have to talk
or Moon will just literally go on tangents
forever. No.
All right, chicky.
All right, tricky. I'm sorry, Emily.
I don't mean to talk over it. No, honey.
You talk over me all day. I'm going to mute you.
Because I love the female aspect, okay?
So for 40 years, I've always done hard assets.
I've always done a Roth IRA, okay?
You're super quiet too, dude.
Can you hear me?
Yeah.
Is that weird yet? Yeah, it's a bit low though.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
So for 40 years, I did a Roth IRA.
So I have gold, I have silver, I have platinum, I have therium.
Okay.
And I have only gotten into crypto the last two and a half years.
And I have a dark horse.
I have a dark horse.
Now, is that XRP, XLM?
I don't know.
All I know is that when I started to do, you know, because I got robbed.
I got robbed on my first supposedly secure wallet on XRP and XOM.
They sold everything from me.
And I had almost $200,000 in there.
Anyway, that's not the point. The point of the fact is that when and
if the grid would go down, I have
solid assets.
An ounce of silver, an ounce of gold.
We can make things happen.
Maybe I'm just a little bit old school.
And maybe I should change, exchange all that into what I need to do.
I'm just scared.
Can you all help me?
Can you help me have the confidence to be able to exchange?
I can help you out with that.
So, like, is that gold and that silver and all those stones you own, is that in your house?
Because if it's not, you own a digital asset that says that you own that thing.
So owning crypto is no different other than it's not controlled by the centralized, greedy, capitalist government.
Yeah, and I just want to add, be careful of asking people in Web3 to help you, William.
Like, you really need to just find some trustworthy people because you share a lot on spaces.
You tell people about your ROIs and how much bags you have and whatnot,
and then it will put, like a a target on your back and
then when you say can someone help me you're going to get a bunch of dms and i'd hate for you to get
scammed you know what i'm saying so so just move move move in silence um straight up like it's it's
it's the best way and and find a community buy an nft um buy moon apes buy silicons buy mutant shiba buy
um a mars cats um find people that you can trust in these ecosystems to ask these types of questions
and kind of like help you navigate in the space because if you're gonna come into public spaces and ask these types of
things there's a lot of nasty people in this space that will for sure um take advantage of
your naiveness and uh your vulnerability so for sure please like understand that the space has probably more scamsters than authentic people in it.
And always just buy into a community and kind of like build trust with certain people there.
And then you can ask these questions and many great holders of great NFT projects will help you.
Sorry, I don't want to cut you off, but I just wanted to give you a little bit of a um like web 3 security 101 yeah because there's a lot of sharks out there sweetheart
and if they hear that that that's the first thing they'll do is they'll dm you and ask you to drop a
wallet or you know click on a link yeah follow like keep coming around us, like Tricky and me and these people. You can find people to trust and just give it a little bit.
Take your time, you know.
Don't jump on the first surfboard and go down the way because a lot of us have been scammed that way.
Because, yeah, I was gullible that way, too, and we've all had to learn that lesson.
And we always try to save a baby so they don't have to do, know they don't have to get scammed yeah learn from our mistakes rickstar you
got your hand up what's up homie do you have some words of advice for william here of course i do um
we actually have a group of uh projects uh obviously uh munay plab uh mutant shiba there's
a bunch of us there's almost 20 projects and also crypto stoner who does
web3 security i would say maybe join william join our discord it's it's free it's by invite only
uh if you want an invite let me know i'll send you an invite and it's just founders and uh og
members of these communities that have basically been invited and because
they they most i'd say 99 of the people they are trustworthy no one's ever proven that they aren't
trustworthy and if they do they'll be kicked out immediately so we kind of monitor and it's a just
a it's a collaborative it's a collective of a bunch of projects we don't ask for money we don't ask for for there's no there's no entry free fee for this this is just
to try and help people in the space and i think that you are a perfect person to to benefit from
uh the green pill collective and the spaces that we have you know on on web3 security and
uh even ai stuff like how to use ai and all of that type of thing so please
if you do want an invite you can message me you can message the mad queen you could message eac
uh i don't know who else is in there tricky of course tricky yes tricky uh i think moonbeam's
in there as well.
And if you guys aren't, please just let me know
because it's just slipped my mind to send you an invite.
But we really want to get the community to be trustworthy people
that new people coming into the space can rely on
for things like you're asking.
You know, they can go into the discord and ask and not
be worried that some scam is going to answer them not to say you don't have to then still be careful
you still have to be careful but you you know the the people that are in that discord are way more
likely to help you than uh people on x to be honest and not only that if somebody in that group does decide to do something
unsavory there are 40 other people who will call them out and protect you before it gets too far
so um it is it is we are trying to create a really safe place which is why it's invite only at the
moment yeah you guys are doing some great things i've been following along only at the moment.
Yeah, you guys are doing some great things.
I've been following along.
I know CryptoStoner reached out to me about Silicon's joining, so definitely
want to cook that up with
Queen, Rickstar,
CryptoStoner. I was just waiting
for the craziness of all the long holidays
on this side. I was traveling.
You guys cooking spaces bro
yeah I love it I love to see it I love to see it I sometimes envies I'm so envious because I'm not
full-time web 3 right I run a in real life business plus do web 3 so I can't always just
jump into spaces but you guys keep cooking um bunch of authentic people. And this is what it's about.
So, yeah, William, definitely reach out to Rickstar.
And they're always looking to grow the Green Pill Collective.
If you smoke a bit of sticky icky at your age, then you're even more of the family there.
You know what I'm saying?
It's good for you, man.
You need to relax now.
You've had a busy life you know what
i'm saying um but definitely it's been it's been such a awesome space and um jb thanks for sharing
everything homie like you've been building out big big respect once again to people that pick
up the slack of horrible founders that just run away. They get that bag and they don't have the energy.
I've always said it's easy to mint something out
because you create the hype with the whitelist.
But the true test in Web3 is if you can really just push after mint
because there's shiny objects everywhere.
People are in other discords always grinding another whitelist.
You get to your discord and you're like, where are my peeps at?
Where are my peeps at?
And you're adding gamers, you're adding engagers,
you're adding everybody just to run a rumble, you know what I'm saying?
So big props to the steps you've taken.
And I definitely think you're going to go further with your plan.
We were all there back in the day where Sandbox was the alpha and NFT Worlds was the alpha omega.
And then they absolutely, well, Minecraft drugged that, right?
And many projects spiraled to nothing.
But it's great to hear that you've kept that vision.
You're doing something different on Nifty because as I'd said previously well earlier in the space
kind of when it's just an avatar
cool you're giving me an avatar
but what are we doing right
so you're adding to that
which is super super dope
Queen I know you're starving
you always cook so late on a Sunday
Berlin is screaming at you right now.
Okay, okay. Tell him to get a winner chicken dinner there.
But we have another request, so we have to be polite.
It's a Mad Cat.
So, what's happening?
The sportist, sorry.
Screen resolution is trash on this iPhone apparently.
Can't even fit in a name.
Yo, the sportist.
What's cooking?
I love that.
Catish vibes right here.
I love that.
What up, gang?
I mean, pocket smash.
He's like, what am I doing up here?
I was just trying to turn on my mic.
What's good, fam? What's good?
You want to say something to your homie JB?
Yeah, in general, guys, just I wanted to say that I quite agree with the whole gaming thing you've been talking about.
I've also been gaming since pretty much Sega, PlayStation 1, 2, and so on. And yeah, it was quite a crazy experience
for me. It started with Pixels and Nifty Island. And turned out that WebTree Gaming earned
me more money in the end than I've been doing hotel entertainment as well as customer service receptions stuff like
that and I've never earned as much as I did with the nifty or pixels living my dream of gaming so
yeah it's two years since I've been uh only doing web3 from home and stuff like that and it's pretty mad uh yeah just wanted to say it's inspiring to
hear you guys and that uh yeah continue doing what you're doing and i'll do the same yeah it's
always amazing to hear that um like a game made people a fat bag that's what that's what brought me into web 3 right is that whole revenue side of gaming um mmo rpg get
get rare items resell it on a marketplace and actually make something out of it apart from
being a one percent twitch streamer you get me because those are hard hard things to come by you
either have to be funny you have to be very entertaining, and a massive, massive following to make it in gaming any other way.
But power to you, bro.
Yeah, dude, thank you so much.
It's been an amazing experience.
Meeting all these people, it's just been amazing.
Hopefully, we can continue building on that, all these communities and yeah, end up with something nice.
Hopefully more Web 2 people will join us and see what we see.
But yeah, as you talked, it's not a one day job, but yeah,
slowly but surely, right?
It'll take some time.
Yeah, it'll take some time.
And yeah, I agree with you.
And yeah, it's really
a lot of times it's like the people you you meet and this late in the cycle or i mean this late i
guess in like the the boring part of like the cycle where it's like people don't know whether
it's over if it started or if it's over again or it started and people have kind of lost interest
a lot of people that are still here you can tell it's people that are they care like you guys are talking a lot about security keeping people safe uh making sure that people
have a good surrounding um to to you know to not fall prey to kind of some of the bad stuff that
can happen in the space so it's like all the people like that are still messing around it's
it's people that actually here because they found something that's valuable long term or they've just kind of doubled down on the stuff that they fell in love with back in 2021 or earlier, right?
So it's lovely.
And thanks again for having me up on the show.
I knew I had to reach out to get on because I do respect Mad Queen a lot and everything that she's done.
Mad Queen a lot and like everything that she's done. I've been watching her on socials and
pushing also the, you know, the projects and stuff. Like I just really am always inspired by how
active you guys are. And I say guys in the very kind of, I know it's, I speak to women sometimes
it's like, I feel bad. I have to say, I mean it almost like the royal, you know, the royal we, the royal guys.
But, yeah, you've done an awesome job.
So kudos to you.
Thank you very much.
I never take offense at being called one of the guys, I have to be honest.
I've grown up playing pool, playing poker, growing weed, all very much male-led industry.
So, yeah, I'm happy to be one of the shots.
What a South African.
Yeah, so thank you very much.
Really appreciate you coming and spending your Sunday with us.
Sunday afternoon, I guess it is for you.
It's been great to learn more about what you're building.
We're always really excited to hear about other 3d
projects that have got the right idea about what they should be doing so thank
you for coming and sharing with us we look forward to your mint on Wednesday
no doubt that will go very smoothly I'm a I've always been a bit of a OpenSea
fan not a fan a loyalist so it's great to see what they're doing now and changing changing some of
their previous processes to include us so yeah that's all great sterry i just wanted to add
that we are about 60 people away on the yetis nft 500 ogs that we're targeting and then we're going
to be launching our free mint coin flip.
So if you are in the audience and you haven't heard about Yetis, it's a Solana meme coin NFT.
We will be launching probably a little while away because we've got some targets that we want to hit before we go.
But the first step is going to be 500 OGS.
So the sooner we get to that number the better and by
joining the discord the link is in the yetis uh bio i see it's dropped off but it's yetis nft
um joining the discord claiming your og role that will lock you in and will forever
reap you benefits that's all i can say at the moment so that's the next thing for us on the
agenda uh stereo it's a bit of a secret of who we got next week so i'm going to keep a lid on that
um but it's been a great space thank you everybody for coming and connect with the gpc
the green pill collective there are a load of really good people in there all wanting to do the right thing
and we want to collectively have a noise and a voice over all of the influencers, the pump and
dumpers, the jeeters, the fudders, the bearish. We want to be the positive space in Web3. So that's
what we're trying to build now. And on that note, St that note story do you have anything for silicons that
you want to add before i hit us with our closing tune yeah well um obviously we wanted to plan the
silly launch um launch probably last month but milani messed a few things up so we we've held off but we probably have our first nft launch on the silly launch pad coming
may so we're super excited big team that's launching with us crazy dynamic that we're
going to be rolling out with them we've got new merch being designed by stefano wolf uh he's cooking up some some limited drop stuff um yeah i'm gonna i'll i'll
add more as i'm allowed to add more but some good things cooking team is is locked in and and doing
some amazing things um i see rickstar's hand is up if he just wants to say something before we close
off yeah just one second uh guys tomorrow 10 a.m est i do a free ai workshop
100 free you don't have to pay anything it's on x it's on abstract it's on youtube as well
so you can even earn xp by watching it on abstract so tomorrow 10 a.m est if you want to learn some
of the latest ai tools that are making waves and people are talking about
tune in we're going to do some 2d to 3d modeling so that should be fun with keeping in line with
what we're speaking about tonight and the 3d modeling stuff so that's going to be a lot of
fun if you guys want to come and have a jam and just see yeah what what the latest tools are i do
also kind of tie it back to making money in ai as a
semi-passive income so just bear that in mind if that is something that you want to uh look into
obviously but it's you know if you just want to come and jam and and find make good content for
your ex uh you're more than welcome to again 100 free and you don't need to use your wallet sign into anything
nothing it's just turn up enjoy uh yeah see you guys tomorrow thank you
always a good one with rick thanks everybody have a great week and we'll see you next time
bye everybody thanks again thanks jb you're legend bro you guys are awesome appreciate you guys Thank you.
