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THE BIG TOP 🎪 @CLOWNITX & @TRAX.SO talk $ICP and DE-music streaming
Recorded: Aug. 27, 2025 Duration: 2:07:01Space Recording
Full Transcription
Thank you. what's up everybody let's get the room started thank you for pulling up i'm really excited to
have tracks on today uh so let's do the cool thing and, you know, like the
room, reshare all the good stuff and, you know, let's get some audience in here. I think this is
a really cool project that we're getting the opportunity to speak to today and I think it
could be of great value to a lot of people, especially if you have friends in the music industry
we're definitely going to delve in and find some hidden gems for them so please do go ahead and like comment reshare send it some people that you you think could benefit from this and we'll begin
in just a few minutes well we're still waiting for tracks, actually.
So once they arrive, we will get started.
Good afternoon, guys.
Good afternoon.
Thank you for coming.
Yes, tracks will be here shortly,
and I'm really excited to see as well the music platform
they've established on ICP.
They've been around for about a year and a half now, I assume.
And they're really killing the game.
Let me tell you, they're really doing a lot more behind the scenes than anything.
But we're going to give you guys a scoop on all the updates and what they're up to these days.
they're up to these days and uh i wouldn't sleep on them if i were you
And I wouldn't sleep on them if I were you.
yeah i'm finding so many really awesome projects in um really i'm finding them off of clown to be
honest with you and that's the cool part is like uh that i'm really liking about that is
being able to find new tech and seeing new platforms and, you know, just watching the growth and ICP
seems to have quite a few really awesome projects that are doing this type of stuff.
Teaming up with the S&S's recently has really given us, in Clown more access to what they're doing.
And I don't even think the SNS platforms themselves had a way to update the community besides checking the proposals, really.
In ICP, we look at proposals if you have a neuron with the set S&S.
But really, most people get that neuron
in the very beginning when the S&S launches.
And then those people that are really interested
in the project are the ones that are really up to date
with all the things that are going on in that S&S.
And then unless somebody else takes it upon themselves
to buy the coin, make a neuron,
and then be a part of the governance and vote, also they are the only ones that have that information.
And I don't really see anybody else really announcing things besides the projects themselves.
So that's what we're here for.
Clown is here to give you guys more updates on the projects, help them market.
And then these spaces are giving you even more alpha straight from the horse's mouth.
And then these spaces are giving you even more alpha straight from the horse's mouth.
And Trax will be here soon to give us all the skinny on that.
But this is making me consider starting Trax Neuron so that I could see more and more what they're doing on the governance end of things.
Yeah, I love it. I love it.
And also, guys, feel free to grab a mic if you'd like to
um we're going to really focus today on tracks uh we are still going to hold our regular clown
space tomorrow um as well as sunday but also while we're waiting uh on fr. We do have
we have Icy Spicy
that we are going to show off
and I just see that tracks just popped up
here tracks.
I'm going to send you a
speaker.
Yeah, here we go.
Let me do that.
And I'll throw you also a co-host
here.
Yeah, so we are going to hold our regular spaces as well as Sunday.
We just wanted to highlight some of the projects that we've been working with and make it a little easier, too, for you guys not only to just get eyes on these projects, but also, so for those of you who are posting with Clown, you actually have a clear understanding of what these projects are.
So please do feel free to pop up on stage.
Sharks declined my co-host.
Oh, there we go.
They're having a little glitch here, I think.
How's that? Oh, they want speaker for me.
There we go. We got you there, Chax?
Hey, how's everyone? We're fantastic.
Thanks for coming up.
I just sent you a co-host there.
Since you are the highlighted speaker today.
Great to meet you.
Thank you for coming up.
We're just sharing the room and talking about some of the stuff.
I think one of the reasons I really wanted to bring you is to really delve in. I know I've played around a little bit on the site, but I wanted to be able to delve in and ask some questions and just to get to really
know your project. And also I know some of the people in here are interested in music. I know
we're probably going to have a few more people popping up throughout the space. But that is
kind of what I was hoping these guys
who are posting about your project
could come and ask questions as well,
just so that we all have a way better understanding
and if we are marketing your project
that we know what we're marketing in and out.
But yeah, thank you for coming to the speech.
We've got myself, I'm Barbie.
We've got Snowd behind the clown profile there.
So, yeah, how's your afternoon going?
Thank you for calling up.
Yeah, absolutely.
Thanks so much for having us today.
My name's Hadi.
I've been part of the Trex team for around three years now.
I'm particularly responsible for marketing, bringing on artists onto the platform and social media management.
So yeah, I already see quite a few faces. I recognize a few Trax OGs here. Hey, Technologic Rob. Hey, Cryptolo. And yeah, thanks so much for having us.
And yeah, thanks so much for having us.
Yeah, no, thank you so much.
And I hear a little hint of accent there,
so I'm guessing you're across the pond from us,
so it's probably a little bit later, am I right?
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
We're actually based in London, in the UK.
It's a great scene here for music,
so what better place to build a music platform
yeah no seriously you're right there's a lot of um and i've been on the i've been on the platform
like i said and i noticed there's a lot of like uh what i don't know the right word for it i'm
totally gonna box this right now um but like just like the like british rap the uk rap scene is crazy
um and i saw a lot of really cool artists i've listened to a couple songs off of tracks and like
okay this is cool um but yeah you're right there's a really interesting music scene uh there um you
also mentioned that there were some artists that are in the speaker panel.
They're very welcome to come up and talk.
We would love to hear your experiences using the platform if you are already using it.
But with that said, I want to get in the nitty gritty.
You said that you have been a company that's been around for about three years now.
And why don't you walk us through kind of the idea,
what you guys were hoping to achieve with this platform?
Yeah, absolutely.
As you mentioned, we've been building on ICP for around three years now.
That makes us actually one of the oldest projects, I think, still around.
And kind of we were early, I think, still around.
And kind of we were early in the space, especially within the IC.
We were one of maybe a couple music projects building within the Internet computer.
So, yeah, a bit about tracks.
So we're a direct-to-fan platform.
So we're not trying to build the next kind of Spotify on the internet computer.
We're actually looking at a different business model. OnTracks users interact and purchase exclusive content from their favourite artists directly. So it's similar to a platform such as
Patreon, but specifically designed for music artists to connect directly with their closest fans.
With ICP, we handle transactions, data upload, authentication, as well as kind of using Web3 to solve paypoints within the industry.
using web 3 to solve paypoints within the industry so for example with spotify it's really good for
kind of reaching a mass audience and um but the problem is that um artists don't know who their
fans really are and if they don't know who their fans are, they can't actually reward their closest fans directly.
So with a platform like Trax, we really lean into the artist-fan relationship, trying to get the fan and artist closer together through kind of exclusive content, experiences, being able to listen to a song before it goes out on Spotify.
And yeah, we're looking to reward fans directly with that.
When you say you want to reward the fans,
is that just through the ability to get first access or exclusive access?
Or is there some sort of economy or token that
goes along with that? Specifically at the moment it would be through the kind of exclusive content
and experiences however we're looking to build a kind of engage the earn feature where you know fans if they share or comment or like content on artists tracks profile they'll also
get tracks awards in return and actually funnily enough I guess that's something clown actually
is building in that you know it's a it's a social mining feature, trying to get engagement through user sharing, kind of messaging from companies like us.
So, yeah, it's so good to be involved with the whole ClownDap project.
And, you know, the amount of interactions we've been seeing has been incredible.
I'm so glad. I'm so glad that you're, you know, utilizing our platform tracks.
And, yeah, nice to meet you.
This is our first time doing a space together, but not the last.
I plan on, you know, really diving into you guys and utilizing your platform
because you've kind of stuck it out, man.
You've waded through the really turbulent waters of ICP being here for three
years. I remember when you guys launched. And I remember, if I'm not mistaken, your look has a
lot of like, almost like you remember Vice Magazine? The Vice Magazine has a very visual,
appealing look, very crisp photographs of people really giving you an up close feel for the artists.
And that's what the artist needs more than anything. They're not getting their fair share
of the profits through these record companies and through these old ancient style deals.
And I think that this is a better way, like you're saying, to connect the artists
and their fans. And I personally am a huge music fan. Like I have, you know, so many moments in my life
where I feel like music really helped me.
And I also love going to concerts and I love all kinds of music, you know.
But, yeah, I really want to keep working with you guys
and utilize your platform to promote your artists, you know.
We would love to, like, have the song get more traction
and get more eyes through our platform.
Yeah, absolutely.
And just while we're kind of on the topic of clown, I'd love for you to kind of explain to some of the members coming from our community a bit about how they can get involved with the DAP and the allocation that we provided.
Oh, yeah, I think that's a great idea.
You know, so with Clown, just for the people who are not involved in Clown that came through the Trax community,
like you said, we essentially are an influencer agency.
So anyone, even yourself here with a Twitter account, you're able to
actually use the DAP by going in, you verify your account or plug in your X account. And what happens
is Trax, for example, has what's called an allocation with us, which is really just a
marketing campaign. And so if you post what's written in that marketing campaign, you can tweak it to your style.
Some information is necessary to have in your post, but you can, you know, you can word it how you want to as long as, you know, you have that the core items in there.
And based on the engagement that you get, you actually get a kickback.
And this one is specifically in Traxcoin.
And this one is specifically in Traxcoin.
So if you are already using this platform, if you are already, you know, promoting it, you know, double dip, come and get a little bit of the marketing budget that's there.
And, you know, utilize it to your advantage, not just for yourself.
If you are not an artist on here.
And again, if there are any artists on the in the listener side of of things here feel free to pull up on the speaker
panel we don't mind talking it'd be awesome you know it's good exposure for yourself as well here
while we're talking today about music and web three um but yeah so you know this this clown
app allows you basically to tap into some of the marketing budget that is given out by tracks so
you know not only are you promoting yourself and
promoting the platform, but you're getting paid for it on both ends. So yeah, definitely,
definitely check that out. Yeah, I'm, I think this is just a really cool opportunity for everyone
across the board. And I love doing these spaces for this purpose, because you never know who's
going to pop in, you never know what who you're going to meet or how you can excel yourself. Um, and I wanted to second what Snoj
said or clown said, um, earlier about, you know, the, the website's just really clean,
which is why I actually made a video for the campaign myself. I really enjoyed what I saw.
Um, and I'm curious, you know, cause I,
I have done some scrolling, like I said, and I've seen some of the music that is there. I've listened
to a couple of the tracks I've played around. I did make an account trying to see how everything
really functioned, um, from the artist side. And, uh, I'm curious though, you know, how many users do you guys have there and in your community?
Yeah, absolutely.
So we literally maybe a week ago passed 1000 artists on our platform, which is a massive milestone for us, you know, to get so many artists on board with the vision, the mission that we have is really exciting.
And among those thousand artists, we also have around 20,000 users on our platform.
And I guess the beauty of it is that we're really a global platform with Web3 technology.
We can handle payments across the globe relatively efficiently.
And, you know, we've been working with Grammy-nominated artists,
people like Goldlink, Blanco, who you may have heard of,
as well as kind of supporting independent rising voices on our platform.
So really on track, so something for everyone, I think.
And, you know know as you mentioned
i'd love for for the people in this space if they're listening just head over to our website
tracks.so have a poke around try and try you might be able to discover your next favorite artist on
our platform yeah i love that like i said, there's some really cool stuff.
And I noticed you have such an array of genre on there.
It wasn't just directed to, let's say, the UK rock or whatever.
There is a lot of highlighted artists in that section,
but I did notice a lot of house music, jungle music,
I saw athletes in some country. So yeah, that's
super cool. I'm just going to repost your website here in the
Cambo channel. But yeah, so
1,000 users is fantastic.
So you said that's 1,000 artists. 1,000 artists, correct.
Interesting. Is there a way that you guys calculate what your traffic or so you said that's a thousand artists a thousand artists correct interesting is there
a way that you guys calculate what your traffic is from users or from just there to be i guess
fans or followers yeah so on tracks um you create two different accounts so there's a fan account and an artist account. So that makes it really
simple to kind of track numbers.
I have a question actually about, you know, is this something also similar to i i think you probably remember when
soundcloud was really big and there was a huge uh rap artists that came from that soundcloud
platform and uh you know little little peep you know uh juice world and lose you've heard and
stuff like that so is this something similar to where any artist can upload their music
and then they can either have a payment plan
where the users can pay per song or per album,
or it's just something free to give to their users
and it's just a direct line to the fans?
Yeah, precisely.
It's a direct line to fans.
It's similar to YouTube in that anyone can create an account, upload content.
But I guess the beauty of it is that there's so many different ways to actually monetize your content on our platform.
So, for example, you can do a pay-per-view model where fans would unlock pieces of content for a fixed dollar amount, for example, $1, $2, etc.
But there's also a subscription model similar to Twitch, where it's a monthly recurring payment
and you get access to subscriber-only content.
So we've had a lot of artists kind of experiment with these different models,
whether that's a kind of fan club model, where every month there's something for their fans,
or these kind of one-off releases through our platform, which go out prior to hitting Spotify,
which fans can simply unlock through a kind of fixed dollar amount.
That's really huge, man. That's a big deal for the artists.
You know, the artists are going to get an appropriate amount of money, you know, based on what they're going to charge.
You know, it's up to them now. You know, it's not really predetermined by some record company what amounts they're going to sell their art for.
And so I'm really proud of you guys to give that to artists because artists really don't get their say.
When it comes to making it big, a lot of that money ends up getting taken to the record company.
Yeah, absolutely. And on your second point, you're completely right. I feel like an artist should be able to charge exactly what they think their music is worth rather than a massive tech company making that decision for them. against algorithms, multi-billion dollar labels, the entire industry and it's so hard nowadays for
kind of independent voices to break through and you know if they can use a platform like Tracks
where you know they might start with 10 fans giving them $10 a month and then scale that to
100 fans, scale that to a thousand fans fans, and suddenly you're making a living just off music.
And that's so difficult to say nowadays.
Well, I think it's really an interesting concept.
I mean, yes, I think, like, obviously there could be some –
there definitely are independent artists and people who are coming up and probably creating it like SoundCloud but do you find that there are some
um in our type people on there have you have you heard any stories where people are being
discovered from Trax yet um so I guess the way Trax works is um the artists actually bring their fans within the
into the community so um kind of the bigger the artist already is the more fans they'll bring in
but i guess some really kind of exciting stories are artists meeting other artists through our platform
and then working together to produce a single together. For example, I know Rob's in here.
He's teamed up with another artist on our platform and now they're collaborating together.
And that's really exciting for us, you know, to be able to create this network of like-minded individuals
who all believe in independence, controlling their data,
fighting back against kind of big tech, big industry,
and using Trax as a home for that is super exciting for us.
Yeah, definitely.
I mean, this is like, again, this is a real platform
and I love that you're building the community.
So, and I'm absolutely certain that some of the community
members who are coming on there are finding other artists
that they appreciate and like.
And we kind of brought up like the like a monetary
um reward system but you there is a trax token what is the trax token used for
yeah absolutely um so the trax token is a governance token. So through ICP, we've gone through the SMS process, which essentially establishes the token. And how it works is fans, artists, they can purchase the token, stake that, and then suddenly they have voting power to decide the future of the platform.
So that really makes us the first music platform owned directly by fans and artists.
And, you know, they can make decisions on funding, collaborations, marketing, putting their own proposals entirely.
putting their own proposals entirely and with that you know imagine if artists could invest
in spotify at a kind of startup stage and the benefits of that um so yeah the token is really
a piece in the company a share in the company um and that's how it's been used to kind of shape the future of our platform.
Have you ever had an artist that may have taken upon themselves to create their own token maybe
through Trax and then maybe use that as a promotion as well?
We haven't yet. I think that would be a really interesting case study to follow. I know obviously, you know, there's meme creator tokens and, you know, Kanye just launched one, not with us, but yeah, that would be really exciting, I think.
Clown, our meme, before it was a utility coin, we were a meme coin.
And the inspiration came from Insane Clown Posse.
And our name is Insane Clown Protocol.
And so we actually were inspired by a music group that was very popular in the 90s.
And still to this day, people talk about that rap group.
And in a way, we sort of shifted over to utility.
But our roots are really in that expression that that like really in your face, kind of like, you know, get your name out there through music and through and through sound.
sort of come up with our own insane clown posse derived style and maybe have something on tracks
because it would be a cool thing to sort of like utilize the platform, not just on our end,
like you guys using our DAF for your coin, but we have our coin in a way promoting our, you know,
maybe customized music. And I always like that, you know, idea of artists making a coin. And then
that's another outlet of advertisement and income.
Yeah, I mean, working in the music industry,
having every day to explain the ICP doesn't stand for
Insane Clown Posse is really funny, actually.
Insane Clown Posse is really funny, actually.
Oh, yeah.
It's really funny because I'm fairly new to the ICP space.
And that was like, I mean, I heard of Insane Clown Posse.
I wasn't really into it.
Everyone in our community kind of knows.
My brother was into it.
But, you know, I, like, joined this.
And then a whole bunch of people have been asking me, me, does it stand for Insane Clown Posse?
And I'm like, well, yeah,
but no, but like, yeah, but no, but like
Clown is kind of from
that, but anyways,
it is really funny, but
the recognition is there. I think that's
a lot of the older people.
I noticed
that we have some people that came
from the audience after the speaker panel i
want to say hello to rizzo and to techno i see rizzo has his hand up so i'm going to let him
ask and then now we'll say hi to techno right after hey what's up what's up uh thank you for
the end what's up what's up what's the word yeah uh barbie invited me um yesterday yeah uh for tracks man shout out
to clown uh clown protocol man icp um but uh tracks yo back in the days man uh like uh me and
me and a day me and a day could feel right we make a lot of music i make a lot of music in web 3 like
put it out there even on platforms whatever any blockchain right i also
have my own token which is boss token right so now somebody like me right right somebody like
me that already has something and and i'm on these platforms right um a day was telling me to to come
on your platform but back then it really didn't have anything that I wanted to jump on because I already was on stuff like that
right but uh but while right now as I hear you speaking on on what you uh you know improved on
right then it might be something that that maybe I might be able to transition to right uh I don't
know what blockchain you you work off of and and also is, is it possible for somebody like me that has my own token
to still be able to create or transfer my token to yours despite the blockchain?
That's a great question. So on the first point, I would say, you know, welcome,
you're welcome to check out the site. I mean, you know, sign up is three point, I would say, you know, welcome. You're welcome to check out the site.
I mean, you know, sign up is three clicks.
I definitely say it's worth poking around, checking out some of the features we have that other platforms don't.
We're built on ICP, Internet Computer.
And so that means kind of data, transactions, storage, all of that is built on chain, which is different to other platforms.
And again, on the token question, I think that's one for our development team to see how we could integrate creator tokens within our platform.
It's not something we've done, but, you know,
we're open to listening to the community.
And if there's, if there's appetite for that,
we're definitely kind of all is on that.
Awesome.
If, if they ever come around to where you want to build out something like
that, or maybe like talk further, you know,
I'm not going to take up the show because I know there's a lot more people that want to speak to you but uh you know we could
talk in the dms or whatever and shit like that and i could show you what you know my ideas and
work like that if you want to yeah that sounds great man um head over to the site
tracks.so and um yeah let's take it from there definitely definitely love it thanks for coming up rizzo by the way i'm super happy to have you
here and cool that you've actually heard of this platform before i'm again i'm really new to the
icp blockchain um so like a lot of this stuff is pretty new to me that I'm finding out. Like some of these
people have like really held strong, which is, you know, I'm coming from the Solana community
where, you know, projects pop up and down every day. And I'm just not, I'm sure there's a section
of ICP I haven't really gotten into yet, but it's way less PVP, way less pump and dump in ICP, I noticed.
So excited that I'm getting to see all these projects.
But yeah, let's run it over to Techno.
What's up?
How are you doing?
Thanks for coming to the stage.
Technologic, how are you, brother?
Hey, guys.
Good.
How are you guys?
Thanks for having me up here.
I'm stoked to see this combination of really cool people up here hosting this.
Thank you for using Cloud. I see you here. Thank you.
You're right on, man. Yeah, it's, dude, like everything that's been coming out recently on the IC is, it's been mind-blowing, man.
Like so many things are coming together, and I see so many possibilities.
And I want to circle around to you at some point.
I've been cooking up something in the shadows for a little bit, doing some shadow work.
I did take a little bit of a step back from the music.
You guys do see me, you know, release some stuff here and there.
you know, release some stuff here and there. But I don't typically advertise it, but I've been a
full stack developer, kind of hobbyist since the 90s. So I've been kind of building some things
out on the IC to help out the community and also working on some stuff to help out the lady I
walked through life with, Candice. Some of you
guys probably know who she is. She painted the murals at DFINITY. So we've been cooking on some
things in the backgrounds. I've been on tracks, I can't necessarily say it's like day one,
but it might have been like day three. I was humbled and honored when Trax reached
out to me to do a little bit of a video expose on, you know, they chose me to be an artist of the
week a couple years ago. And man, like, to be honest, I teared up a bit. I was like, what?
Somebody noticed me? You know, I just do this for fun. I've been a musician my whole life,
ever since I was six years old. I play a whole slew of instruments, and I, you know, I'm a
producer now, so I just do a lot, but the most beneficial thing that I've seen come out of tracks,
and you mentioned it, were the collaborations that have come out of it
um i do have a couple of collaborative tracks up on tracks with uh dj lethal skills and grip beat
there's some some pretty well-known producers and a world-renowned turntablist with DJ Lethal Skills.
We did meet via tracks, and then we probably spent a year collaborating on a couple of remixes of an OG track that I had dedicated to the IC community
that landed in a game that was built on the IC years ago.
It's probably almost unfortunately forgotten about. It on the IC years ago.
It's probably almost unfortunately forgotten about.
It's called IC Pinball.
So it's just this little pinball game, but it is pretty cool.
But not to go down that path too much,
but back to the collaborative side of it,
like meeting the people that I've met led to some tracks going on,
like semi-viral on Spotify, right?
So and that was life-changing for me, but not in a monetary sense, right? I still made more money off of my Web3 releases via tracks or, you know, a couple of the other platforms than I ever have in my life.
And there was a point in my life, you know, where I was in multiple bands and, you know, we toured and we released albums and stuff.
And maybe one day I'll come out and say what bands they are. Right.
But the IC itself gave me an outlet as an artist and a creator. I had just started releasing stuff wherever I could on the IC, and I didn I'll keep up with it. And here I am a few years later, and I'm up here talking to some cool cats.
And it's really been an honor.
And I don't want to take up the space.
I want to hear a whole lot more from what's coming from Trax and Clown.
You guys are making waves, man.
And I appreciate you.
I love it.
And before we go back to tracks and yeah,
look at the future and see what these updates are and where we're going and
talk about maybe a little more of the interaction between clown and tracks.
I want to get you guys, please, to go and share the room.
Make sure you drop a comment, repost it.
Let's do all that good stuff because there's
some alpha being dropped here. This is a super awesome opportunity for artists and musicians.
So make sure if you are, you know, either a musician yourself, reach out to some of your
friends who might be on the line, share this out. And even if they're not online, you know,
like they might listen to the replay on it and how all that works and they'll get some of the alpha secondary.
But, yeah, again, let's let's go back to tracks.
If you guys are not following them already, make sure to shoot them a follow.
Same with clown and myself and also the the speakers on the panel.
Make sure you get everyone up here and connect with them.
you get everyone up here and connect with them and yeah so tracks yeah let's let's talk about
you know where where do you see this going I know I mentioned before people being discovered
how how do you think that artists or yourself can bring this platform to another level and benefit each other? Yeah, that's a great question.
I think the mission that we're on is something that is shared
by a lot of artists in that they find it so difficult
to break through traditional means.
That something like Web3 offers a great opportunity for them
to reach a new audience
as well as kind of experimenting with a different business model um through a platform like tracks
um so yeah i would say if there are any artists creatives listening make sure you know to to see what's out there you know you don't have
to play the record label game and sign an awful deal when you're young you get promised you know
a big upfront payment um but then kind of building a long-term sustainable income through the music industry alone is so difficult right now.
But there are options out there to build something yourself, which you own.
No one else has their hands over it.
And yeah, I would say definitely kind of spread the message if you can.
The game is changing, brother.
It's definitely changing in the artist's favor, finally.
It's taken a long time, but the media is not at all centralized like it used to be.
You know, you don't have to get recognized by a big record artist
or a big channel on TV anymore.
MTV is kind of passe now.
It's sort of just a bunch of random shows.
And also, artists are getting popular on their own.
And then the music industry has to go to them.
They have to find them and they have to say, hey, wait a minute.
How are you getting so much attention without us?
We want a piece of that.
We want you to come to us.
And then really the artist has more say with their course of their careers.
And the music itself is changing.
It's not really a full ensemble band anymore.
It's usually one or two people that do all of it.
And they sort of produce everything.
And they got all the tools.
And everything is really ready to go.
And they don't even have to pay for a studio half the time they don't even have to go and get you know any
sort of recognition from anybody they just go out in the street and start playing everybody starts
saying yo you're good what are we going to see you up on stage and then they jump on stage and
then it just grows from there so like you know we're seeing a way more uh accessible medium
whereas like when i was growing up and i'm sure most of you guys growing up, you had to go and buy the album and like listen to the whole album and really hope and pray that they were going to come to your town.
And now it's sort of like, no, it's a whole different ballgame.
So I'm glad that Trax is really utilizing not just this new way of engaging with music, but you're on the perfect blockchain.
You're on the blockchain that's going to be able to give you the security uh and give you all the uh the the access with the
wallets and the web3 wallets and and you already have a coin a governance coin and it's a DAO
you guys are already a DAO so you guys are like already uh doing the right thing as far as the
infrastructure and so I just see it accumulative. I see it accelerating much more from here.
Right.
We're on the perfect network, and there's a brilliant marketing agency called Clown
and influencers at Barbie who will help get your word out on your music.
I love it.
And like I said, you know, even if you're on that network,
you're able to go and
make money off of promoting yourself. Like, how cool is that? Right? Like, you're actually,
you know, I mean, let's be honest, posting once or twice, it's not going to pay your bills. But
not only are you with clown, like, you know, you're sitting there and you're, you're promoting
yourself, but you are, you are actually creating yourself into another ecosystem.
So even if you're not just on ICP or in this space, you know,
it's just a really great way for you to cross-pollinate all of your opportunities here.
I see that Techno has his hand up as well as Cupcake, who came to the stage.
I'm going to go to Techno first and then we'll catch up with you in a second, Cupcake.
Yeah, I'll be quick, Cupcake.
There was something that I just remembered I wanted to,
honestly, it was probably the biggest thing I wanted to offer some input to that nobody's really mentioned yet.
really mentioned yet. Onboarding users, like fans, is easy. Like to put it into perspective,
I was able to, actually, she did it herself. My mom, who's pushing 70, got on tracks to support
her son, right? My brother did, right? My uncle did, my sister did, her significant other
did. He's going to onboard as an artist. He's an amazing jazz guitarist. His son is also an amazing
musician. My son is a musician. We're all looking at tracks. So it has all of the possibilities for somebody to use it without even realizing that they're using a Web3 platform, right?
And a couple of those people I just rattle off don't even really know what Web3 is.
You know, my brother has a neuron and my son and my daughter have their own neurons that I created in the NNS and stuff.
And my son and my daughter have their own neurons that I created in the NNS and stuff.
But back to tracks, like my mom and my uncle don't even know what crypto really is, right?
They've heard of it, but they're part of a generation that, you know, it's kind of off their radar.
But they wound up on tracks not even realizing, you know, what the back end was.
Yep.
You know what?
It's really interesting to me because we've been having this conversation in some of the
other spaces that I've been in.
When you start saying like Web3, immediately people like start panicking, like it's this
like big unattainable thing to get involved with, or you have to be some sort of like,
but it's really not. It's,
you know, Web3 is really just putting, I guess, ownership and power back in the hands of the people who are creating, right? And so, I mean, like, that's, there's, it's not that complicated.
So you're right, I'm glad that you brought that up. And I think that sometimes we need to remind
people that, you know, Web3 is not any different than something that you've been doing,
except for, you know, your, your logins, your passwords, what you know, that's, that's,
no one can take that from you. And, you know, for myself, as someone who lost their Instagram
account, I had 38,000 followers and Instagram wiped my entire meta, not just my, my Instagram,
all the way down to my Facebook that I've had since i was 16. you know web 3 solves that so um anyways i i i know we said we're gonna go to cupcake and
right after we'll hit you rezo hey cupcake good good barbie and Snoj, great space. Thank you for hosting it.
I'd ask you for that as well, but we had a late late spaces
last night.
Yeah, we did.
Just listening to everyone, I just
want to just share my feedback ideas
and just connect some of the dots.
So you've already covered Trax leveraging Clown
for an allocation to promote tracks the platform.
You also talked about artists signing with tracks, you know, you don't get locked down
in those contracts, like you do with the labels. However, what the labels do provide is marketing.
So tracks doesn't provoke, doesn't really provide that angle to a artist
when they're on the tracks platform.
However, what you could do is leverage the Clown API
within your tracks application
and artists could leverage
without leaving the tracks platform
within the platform using the API
and pay for with the tracks token,
make an allocation in clown to promote,
you know, if they have a new song coming out,
if they have an event.
So it's seamless for the artists.
They don't even have to leave the tracks platform and they can promote and
market their album.
Oh, that would be really cool to have like an opportunity where, you know,
you just plugged right into clown back to your tracks. And that's one thing that we were talking
about too. And we've been talking about in some of our other spaces is that, you know, traditionally
it seems like a lot of the campaigns or the allocations that have come in have been for companies, but this can really expand out to your personal profiles, to your websites, to your, you know, to your tracks profile.
You know, all those pieces of criteria that go into the marketing campaign for the people who are posting can be varied.
And really, honestly, again, like I think that we were very limited with Clown at the beginning thinking like like, okay, coins, coins, coins, or exchanges, projects, stuff like that.
But I mean, again, this can really be used for anything that you want to drag attention to.
Where else is an artist going to get easy access like the Clown app to almost a thousand micro influencers across the world.
And it's another piece of the puzzle of advertising.
We've been covering things with posts as far as texts are concerned.
We're trying to help our miners get the best kind of content out there for you guys in text form
and in visual form using the AI or using your own GIFs of an artist
to actually give you guys great visuals and
pictures and, you know, demonstrations of things. But this is the next step, having a song that
spreads. And I tell you, songs change lives. Okay. Like my life is dictated by all kinds of music
that really sort of guided me through, you know, really tough times or really great times.
And, you know, I almost look at my music catalog as like a documentary of my life.
If I hear this song, I know exactly what I was doing at that time.
I know exactly who I was talking to. I knew exactly what I was feeling.
And so like this is even more of a powerful tool in-house, you know, where you're using a platform on Web3 in the Web2 space. You know, we're
utilizing something that we can expand on. And yeah, I wasn't kidding when I said in the very
beginning, Trax and I are going to definitely keep on working together because the potential is so
high and the artists out there, you guys are putting in the good work and you deserve more
recognition. You know, for the longest time, I was kind of wondering what Trax was doing. And so in this way, I feel like I'm sort of reconnecting to what
you guys are all about. And when you guys first came on, I was very interested in the platform,
but you know how ICP is, like things just got kind of awash with all kinds of projects.
And so this tool, yeah, Cupcake, you're right. This is sort of like our way of filling in that need that the marketing labels try to do for you.
But we're not taking a massive cut from you guys.
You know, if anything, you guys are making more money.
And also, like, if an artist makes a coin and then promotes their coin on top of that, even better.
You know, maybe you can make two, three, five different allocations, all types of coins, all kinds of artists.
You know, and you have Technologic out there that's already utilizing the platform.
So we have miners that are already recognizing how to spread their word.
And yeah, no, I think this is a great thing, Trax.
What do you think?
We also got Rizzy Nader, by the way.
He's on our team.
He's in the UK.
And that's a great thing to have.
We have somebody that's in the same time zone
and somebody that basically helped bring in Trax to us.
And Barbie, too.
Barbie made this connection.
So shout out to RizzyNator out there.
You really helped with getting this partnership going.
And also, yeah, Barbie was setting up the space.
So the next step is to keep using the platform.
But, yeah, Trax, what do you think?
Yeah, I mean, it might just be the kind of missing piece in the puzzle.
As I mentioned, we have over a thousand artists now.
So, you know, being able to market them each effectively is quite a big task.
But if they could do that themselves within the platform, I think that's a brilliant idea.
Yeah, we had Omniti on not too long ago.
We had a space this last weekend where Omniti basically gave us a skinny about Solana and how we're going to have the opportunity to work with them and have Solana allocations towards the end of this year.
And I know that there's a lot of artists also on the Solana blockchain as well.
So this isn't just going to be limited to ICP.
This is going to be open to all kinds of artists that are in other blockchains.
And then that's going to bring them in to ICP.
And when they see this structure and they're like, oh, wait a minute,
I don't have to give all my money to YouTube.
I don't have to wait to get enough views to get paid.
I can get paid right away with my posts.
Get out of here.
You know, that's what Barbie was talking about.
We're really excited to really sort of like spread the word.
And yeah, what better way in a song?
And what better way to really like, you know, get people to be involved in a fun, engaging way.
Right. And, you know, music is a kind of universal language that transcends kind of borders, religion, everything that kind of divides us.
So, you know, we've seen music be an incredible tool to bringing users into the IC.
into the IC and you know if we can continue that that would be amazing
And, you know, if we can continue that, that would be amazing.
absolutely Rizzo you had your hand up brother
yeah man I like this kind of circle you know so what I did was I signed up for
tracks and and as a creator.
And I actually just finished creating a song.
I actually just finished mixing it down before I came here because I was trying to play here.
But anyway, right?
So that's good news, right?
So then nobody heard that song.
So maybe that could be the song that I maybe debut on Trax, right? out shout out to trap d5 down there mr 430 man they've been talking about icu um i mean icp for
a minute and shit like that man but i just didn't know what it was and shit i mean they telegram
but those those the family right there um but uh but yeah yo i just signed up i dm'd you um i don't
know what the next step is i tried to make a, but it said I had to put up music.
So it's like, you know, I was saying, you know, I'm here, but it's like I got to put music up.
So, you know, I don't know what kind, you know, what's the next step?
Should I just keep putting music up?
Like what happens after I put music up?
Are they NFTs?
Do people listen to it?
Do they tip it?
I don't know.
Can you fill me in
what's the next step uh techno or maybe tracks which one yeah absolutely i mean happy to kind
of walk you through it via dm um but yeah you should be able to upload a track through the
track studio and then it'll be live on our platform and you know we can we can add it
to the home page for example or share retweet anything you put out and yeah introduce your
music to our community all right so so is there like a discord or or like just just so matter of
fact in the dms you could hit me with all of that stuff.
I'll join up and then we can just start the process from there if that's okay.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
I guess now we have 1,001 artists.
Brilliant.
Let's go.
I'm 1,001.
Does anyone have the soundboard?
We need the soundboard.
I got it right here, right here.
Congratulations. Well done. I got it right here. Congratulations.
Well done.
Let's go.
Brilliant.
Let's go.
What's up, Cupcake?
I have a couple of asks after listening to that conversation.
Because I bought the Trex SNS and I have Clown.
I'm investing in Clown.
The first thing is Trax,
please listen to all this feedback coming from Resonator
and consider your user experience that he's asking these questions.
So there's room for improvement there.
It should be intuitive. Your art, you know, artists and users coming to your platform
shouldn't be confused like he just was. And the second thing is when Search works with the
tracks team, Snodge, I'm going to be looking for that post where, you know, it says clown partners
with tracks to embed marketing in their application.
For sure, man. Every suggestion you give, I take seriously. And I'm glad that you're here to give
us even more of a, you know, outside user opinion. And really, you speak loudly for
everybody else, too. These are ideas that we come up with, but you also hold us to the fire.
So I'm sure to keep working with Trax, and we can totally get that partnership going
and keep on with this exposure through their artists and through their platform.
And I'm definitely excited for the future, man. I'm definitely excited for this partnership. And I think there's something to be said as well,
like for the artists on Trax, if they're not aware that Trax is putting these types of
marketing into what they're doing, because it is a big deal, right? When you are an independent
artist, I mean, that's massive that you don't even realize and it's not just a marketing company you're getting a handful of micro influencers along the way who are also promoting
something that's that's bringing viewership to what you're doing so yeah definitely massive
massive for everyone um who's involved in both clown and tracks for for the users for the artists
and i'm really stoked to see an artist that becomes super famous from tracks too.
Like all it really takes is just one.
It could be Rizzo.
It could be Technologic.
It could be any one of your songs.
Really, it's really interesting how the viral environment is these days.
And Barbie, you had actually a taste of this recently where it wasn't even you making the video.
It was you in the video,
somebody else mentioning it, and it was millions and millions of views. And also this recent trend
with, you know, the young, black and rich, that song with that whole like the Indonesian
boat team and like the kid is just sort of like, you know, doing this
thing and doing this dance. And then all of a sudden somebody puts an overlay of that song on
it and it just takes off. And now that artist that sings that song did a whole, you know,
music tour in that country and performed for like the president of that country in front of all
these people. And then the kid was there and it was like this whole viral sensation.
And it was literally from a TikTok or literally from a five second meme.
And you never know.
You have no idea. You don't need the record companies anymore, in a sense, to go viral and to really make a hit.
And the hit doesn't even have to be that long anymore.
I remember when songs were like 10, 12 minutes long.
Sometimes you listen to a progressive album and you just had, you know, soaked it all in, but the kids, you know, these days just want a
minute, two minutes max and something catchy really hits there, you know, and now we got the formula
down. So I have no doubts that all these tools being utilized, uh, being on a web three platform,
uh, having the marketing be a web three platform, superimposed on a Web2 platform to even get more audience.
It's just a matter of time. It's just a matter of time. And we're getting to the you guys are
actually seeing the beginning stages of the partnerships. And there's really no telling
what's going to come when we get more liquidity in the space and ICP's price goes up. And then
also after the all coin season, we were talking about this last night, Cupcake, how there's going to be a lot of projects that are going to be gone.
There's going to be a huge turnover rate. And when we walk into the bear market, we need another strategy to bring people in besides the price.
The price isn't going to do it for us anymore for the next two, three years.
We need more tools. ICP actually built the tools for us and we're taking the reins here now.
We can't really depend on DFINITY.
DFINITY is doing everything on the institutional end, the back end with them.
We're now having to sort of expose the technology to retail.
So I'm excited, you know, for Trax and I'm excited for you, Rizzo, and Technologic and keep building, you know, keep putting yourself out there.
That's what the clown, you know, DAP is all about, too.
It's a performance.
It's putting yourself in the eyes of everyone,
having the courage to really make something happen.
And you can't succeed without any risk.
You have to take risks to succeed.
You have to put yourself out there.
And people figure that out sooner or later,
sooner or later and their increase of success just goes up.
and their increase of success just goes up.
You know, I was thinking about raids and the music industry may be a great use case
for the raids functionality. Yes, absolutely. Raids is a function that's going to come out very soon,
guys. We have another test coming up. We're testing out the raids feature. And yes, it's a very viral, sort of very concentrated form of getting attention.
And I wouldn't be surprised if, yeah, something as far as a song gets a lot of views very quickly.
And then if that song is a hit, or if that song really kind of taps into somebody that knows how
to spread it out even further, then everybody tries to make money on that post by submitting a comment. They submit the comment to the dApp and then they like, repost,
save, or if they put, you know, in their comment, they have the cash tag clown. They can earn a lot
from that allocation. And I wouldn't be surprised if an artist just says, you know what? I'm dropping
a grand. I'm dropping two grand and you guys comment and you guys are going to make a hundred bucks each or something like that. Some crazy amount
of money. I don't even know how high the money can go. Whereas in a raid, I don't know how many,
I mean, people would go crazy trying to spread that out. And maybe the song isn't even that good,
but it doesn't matter. We just get even more exposure. And then it opens up the other parts
of the song list for the artist.
So it's like, you know, you never know.
There's a lot of ways to use that.
And I'm glad you brought that up, Cupcake.
That raid feature is coming out soon, and we're working on it.
Yeah, that could potentially be a really cool idea.
Sorry, go ahead, Trax.
Yeah, I mean, while we're talking about kind of upcoming features,
I'd love to give you guys some exclusive news
about what's coming up next for us.
We love Alpha.
Yeah, absolutely.
So we've actually just launched our mobile app on Android and iOS.
This has been a kind of year in development,
going back and forth with the app store.
It's not quite as easy as ICP in that it is so centralised and
you know they don't make it easy for Web3 projects to get listed on the app store but
you know we're glad to finally be there. So yeah you can check out Trax. If you type in tracks music within ios in the app store um i'm sure you can find us
and you know we'd love feedback on the app improvements any kind of bug reporting as well
as that we're working on a ai visualizer which i can't say too much about just because um is is still in the works but what i can say is we're bringing
sound to life through video um which is which is very exciting believe me and also we're beginning
to kind of work with industry en masse to create onboarding so within labels distribution companies within the UK
so that's still really exciting to you know bring legitimacy to the app and
kind of bring these big partners on board who are seeing the vision that we've been building towards
and yeah great time to get involved with tracks.
Tracks.so is our website for anyone listening and Barbie clown.
It's been a pleasure.
Thanks so much for having us on this space.
And I hope it's the first of many that we can do together.
Absolutely,
man.
We're definitely doing this again very,
very soon.
And shout out to you for telling everybody about that app. i found it uh when you go on the app store put tracks music web 3 and
then you'll find it right away if you put tracks music go up to the jumbotron i just posted the
link directly to the google store uh to the google store link for that app i downloaded it it's in the process
of installing so i'll definitely be playing around um yeah and and guys if you again if you are uh
someone who's interested in music if you're you know even if you're someone who promotes music
right like go on there go check out these new. Go check out what's new in the game. Stay on with a lot of these independent guys, right?
The other thing I wanted to say, I know we're kind of at an hour here.
Do you have a few more minutes?
Are we good to go for, like, another 15 or so?
I'd really appreciate if we can continue the conversation maybe in our next space.
You know, it's getting late over here.
No problem. But, yeah, thanks so much for sharing that barbie and shout out to you shout out to clown
um a lot of kind of exciting announcements on the way so definitely watch this space and
um pardon the pun um watch this space and you know we look forward to our next space together as well
yeah thank you so much for coming up and taking your time and i can't wait to have you back on
another episode thank you tracks thank you so much we'll definitely keep in touch
thanks so much guys i'll leave you to it now bye bye
yeah for sure so um again that that was Trax, guys.
I did post that link up to the top to download their new app.
It is their first version out on the store.
So if you find any bugs, definitely send them a message.
They're looking for people to test it out and make sure everything's going smoothly.
So there's that.
And then also, like I said, you said, we've partnered on Clown Now.
Shout out to Rizinator for bringing them along here
because this is a great space, super alpha.
I love that he dropped a little alpha bomb before he left.
That was fantastic.
Yeah, Rizinator's got the Riz, man.
I'm telling you guys, he's the guy that gave us the partnership with Taco Dow.
Also, you know, we've been partnering with all kinds of people because, you know, Rizinator, shout out to you.
He's a part of the team.
And I'm excited because it seems like everybody that wants to discover about Clown and the capabilities of the DAP,
it's almost like they want to become a team member right away.
And in a way, we're like, okay, great. What other role can we fill in order to expand on this idea?
And that's what it's all about, really.
We're trying to build community.
We're building culture.
Trax is building culture.
And this is what we need.
I think the last person I remember that used Trax that was a big-time KOL
was Jerry Banfield.
Jerry Banfield had his own music and he was actually producing on tracks
and he was making money on tracks.
And he's not with us anymore.
He doesn't hang out in the ICP community anymore.
But I remember him saying something like, you know,
I don't know why more music artists ain't using tracks.
You can make money right away and you can start expanding on your craft
and get right to the fan base.
And really all it takes, in my opinion, is a certain amount of a fan base in order to get really big. You know,
after a while, uh, some artists out there really struggled to get their first hundred or thousand,
uh, you know, people, but then it sort of becomes really big after you get past that hurdle.
And after about a thousand, you know, 5,000 people that really like your music,
people that really like your music, it just sort of spreads on its own and you sort of done the
it just sort of spreads on its own and you sort of done the groundwork.
groundwork. So let Clown assist you with that. And Trax and I, and Clown, we're all going to
work together to make things more user-friendly and much more streamlined. And yeah, check out
the app. I'm actually on the app right now. This is actually a really nice looking app. We might
have to use Trax to help us make an app like this for Clown. Yeah. I like that kind of shit right
there. I'm more of an app kind of like, like i like that kind of shit right there i'm more of
an app kind of like like right now i'm i'm in the background speaking to a day right the one that
put me on the tracks right and it's crazy how he said something about let's do a space to push our
nfts and i'm telling him right now yo i'm on the stage with tracks right now i just signed up and
they got an app look at that see in the back the back, it's just natural that somebody, when they're excited about something, that's actually got results to just push it, right?
Word of mouth is the best kind of advertisement, right?
Because people like to speak to real people, people that actually went on there and actually looked around or whatever and shit, right?
on there and actually, you know, looked around or whatever and shit, right? So, so shit like that,
to me, is more valuable than me just going, you know, I'm, I'm on tons of blockchains. I'm on
all of that shit. We done boosted up this, that, whatever. It doesn't even matter, right? But like
you said, right, I need to get it out more because, because to me, I already did the foot movement to
me, right? So, so, so so so you know sometimes it get tedious it gets
like man I keep on keep on grinding keep on grinding right but now if I'm on this and then
I got people it's like uh it trickles down to where to where the fans and the other people
are grinding just as much as me because this is just it's just the culture right it's just like
yo this is what we do we are we gonna promote it right and then that right there you're 100 right that's way better for
artists than just busting your brain trying to figure out and and Nebraska you know who likes
my music right sitting in Nebraska rapping outside and shit is who you rapping to the
scarecrow the cornfield you know i'm saying so so this
is this this is perfect right here bro i fuck with it well what i was gonna add is that um you know
something that maybe tracks me it could do with us and i i know he took off so i was gonna say this
but there could be a potential where they actually offer you know their partnership with clowns, so to speak, to the artists who want to use it and
just put in, you know, hey, I'm using a Trax recommended, you know, marketing service.
And now, you know, it streamlines back into like, hey, this is an entire Web3 experience.
And because, you know, listen, the Web3 thing, and I said it before, it throws a lot of people off when you say Web3, right?
So I guess it's more there's got to be a better way to market it in terms of wording.
That would just be my thing.
But, yeah, anyways, I'm kind of going on a tangent here.
I think you're right.
I think it's sort of like we have already, I guess you could say web 2.5 in a sense,
where people are using an extension wallet in order to transact through that wallet on their
browsers. The next phase is what we're using. And we're already kind of in the future. Web 3
is cryptographically sound. It's backed up by the security that we need because we're using payment systems.
Right now, I wouldn't trust to have too much crypto on your phantom wallet because there are ways that people can drain your phantom wallet.
And people have figured out how to do it because it's not true Web3.
You know, they might tout it as Web3.
They might say this is Web3.
It's kind of Web 2.5.
There's some security, but it's not fully secure.
And on ICP, you're guaranteed full security using the ICP blockchain, and those payment systems are guaranteed not to get hacked.
And that's really the appeal that I think an artist would want to have, whereas they're guaranteeing that their users are not going to get know, they're guaranteeing that their users are not going to get hacked.
They're guaranteeing that their music is not going to get hacked.
They're guaranteeing that their payment system is not going to get hacked.
And so that's really critical when your whole career is based on, you know,
directing your attention directly to the fans instead of having an intermediary
that's taking care of that.
So yeah, that's really what Web3 means is ultra security,
and ICP is the only blockchain that provides it.
Yeah, I love that.
I love that.
I think like, you know, this is just one thing
that I'm really starting, again, you know,
I've started to really love about ICP is just the amount
of security and the thought process that is put into things. i'm just slowly learning but every time i turn around and like someone
mentioned something i'm like oh i didn't think about that and then it's like but again you know
from someone who's really not like a super tech tech person i say this i mean i'm in web 3 i'm
in crypto but i'm kind of like tech tartarded when it comes to the dev side of things.
Like, I don't really understand.
But once it's kind of explained, I'm like, oh, yeah, okay, that makes sense.
So quite often, I, you know, haven't trained my brain yet to, like, spot things.
But I'll sit in spaces and someone will be like, what about this?
And then the other person will come and they'll be like, oh, it's fixed like this, like this, like this.
Like, it's actually interesting, like, to hear.
I don't have an example just this second, but you are right.
ICP seems like the most secure situation.
You know, it's like, it's a lot of really smart people in this space,
and I'm really loving it.
And the fact that, you know, outside of just, like, the dev of it,
you know, things are really being built.
Something like Trax, right, is being built.
You know, even our guest that's coming on Friday is is an RWA project
and agriculture like these things are real use case.
These are operating systems already.
And I love that about this space.
What's up, Tech? Now go ahead. Yeah.
Sorry, sorry, guys. My hand kept going up and down. My computer's kind of glitched now because I have a couple of virtual things that I've been building. some computers lag it but um uh resonator i just wanted to to point out man tracks is super
responsive in the dms man they've over the last couple years they always get back to me in a
timely manner they're across the pond so sometimes it takes a little bit but they always do you could
always reach out to me too man i'm always always available um and i wanted to just kind of show off like how easy the, basically the
uploading of your music is to the platform. Literally like within just like the last like
five, 10 minutes, I uploaded a remix. I had realized that I hadn't put out on tracks yet with another artist that
that's on tracks.
I did post the link below pardon the senseless show,
but sometimes we got to do that for ourselves a little bit, but yeah, man,
I'm, I'm always here.
No doubt, bro. We definitely going to link up, you know what I'm saying?
But, but yo, the but yo the resonator is down
there he just followed me my name is rizzo i know i know the mix up because it's the riz riz and
shit my bad but nah and i still it's all good you know i'm saying you know as long as you call me
riz that's that's actually my name um well my nickname since 12 and shit was was always rizzy
and shit but right but you know yeah yo but uh but yo
yo thank you for that thank you for that and that feedback um you know you see down there i brought
um a day could feel down there and um and and yeah bro yo that is like mad easy to put up stuff
that's why i kind of like you know kind of like scared me right because it's like i already got
a song right so it's like yo hold on am already got a sock, right? So it was like, yo, hold on, am I doing it right?
Am I skipping process?
You know, because it was just like this.
It was like-
It's that easy, man.
It's upload and go.
You name your price, you name if you want it to be a subscription service,
free or, you know, price it for, you know, a dollar amount.
Or, you know, when people can pay Trax token,
or even for a while
they could pay ICP to purchase it too.
That it's really revolutionary stuff.
It's cool to see another OG Web3 music head, you know, taking an interest in it.
And it's just the possibilities are endless.
And Barbie was talking about the security aspects of it.
I know you know a little bit about the security aspects of it.
I know you know a little bit about the IC, but when you put, you know, secure data in a backend canister, man, it's impenetrable.
I'm not going to say too much, but maybe or maybe not.
I've tried on some of my own stuff, and it's there. You know, it's been safe for me to store some api information and
stuff like that for some stuff i'm building out and that's what tracks is built on top of man
so your your stuff is safe yeah man i i i feel i feel secure man i i'm not gonna lie to you bro
you know um you know everybody that's speaking and in the community and all of
that stuff and you know i know barbie and you know clown is cool you know a day i obviously put me on
to this shit since i'm like last year i think more than that so so you know um to me uh you know
finding somebody like you that is like already there since like six you said right doing this
and then you you know i'm saying you you got success on there. It makes me feel comfortable, you know, more comfortable doing
it. Right. Cause we, we create music every day and we, and we pound this pavement called web three
or whatever you want to call it every single day, pushing it out for other artists ourselves.
We just trying to make it better, you know, for us, right. Because it was kind of fucked up in
the industry. So, you know, right now with us coming together and certain things like this come around opportunities
this is great for all of us bro and and yo man i would love to collab with you too man because i
know you got experience and that's what i'm looking for man i'm always looking to make better music
you know i'm saying no matter what you feel right and every day i get better and better and i'm starting to surprise myself at times but being around better people like like you a day and shit like that
that's the reason why i became better right it wasn't just me sitting by myself and doing it
maybe i would have you know i would have been influenced but i actually had the people there
right there doing it with me and like you know working together so
that's that's valuable to me so sure man if you don't mind connect yeah by all means man yeah i'm
on heck yeah um but uh shoot man i forgot what i was gonna say to be to be honest with you just
kind of blew my mind with that um but uh uh forgive me, but yeah, man, we're going to definitely link up.
Um, I heard you shout out trap and 430 down there.
I've been, been, uh, been connected with those guys for, for a while too.
They're always supportive and I like the vibe that those guys have.
So we definitely have a few, a few links, man. So it's,
dude, I'm, I'm, I'm stoked. Let's do this.
Yeah, man. Technologic. Thanks so much. And Rizzo too. Thank you so much for,
uh, giving us that, um, you know, great breakdown. Uh,
I just posted actually Technologic one of your, uh, songs you posted a while ago
on August 16th. It's, uh, I guess it's sort of like a little homage to the Insane Clown Protocol.
And I see here a really cool album cover, and also the sound is really dope.
It's got this really catchy track.
And yeah, shout out to Trap Defi, man.
Trap Defi is a rapper out there.
He's really always in the spaces, always representing Knack.
Knack is a really big meme coin here in the space.
They've really done a whole lot with liquidity, adding their tokens to many, many different liquidity pools.
And also they were one of the first users of our DAP.
They were actually one of the first people to add allocations when we were in alpha, alpha, like earlier on in Clown.
So shout out to TrapDefi.
Thanks for coming again, like always.
And thanks, guys, for shouting out to him.
And yeah, check out these guys.
Check out these artists.
They're here for you.
And for sure, we're going to have Trax expand our reach with their platform.
And also, they're going to use our platform to do the same.
Yeah, I actually, when the guys were talking about how easy it was to use the Trax platform,
I, like I said, I kind of played around when I first went to go make that, that original video
for Clown. And because when I, you know, Clown has a lot of opportunity, guys, you know, you can
make up to, I think today's up to $160 worth of, of the campaign allocation. But, you know, you can make up to, I think today's up to $160 worth of, of the, um, campaign, uh,
allocation, but, um, you know, I, I, I don't go for every single project. I like to go through
the projects and see what I'm getting into and see what they are really about so that I can not
only, you know, know that what I'm talking about, I support, but also that I know what I'm talking about and that I have a greater insight
into it and um you know that I that I can also produce quality content or have you know a little
bit better of a grasp on what I'm talking about so besides that I wanted to agree though because
I did I played around with kind of both sides just to check it out and see and uh Rizzo I was
laughing when you were saying oh shit did I just like release a song by accident like I did that I was like just uploading it I uploaded some like random
videos from my phone like onto the that I had like stored on my computer and I just like uploaded
them and I was like oh here's just like a video of me and my friends like at the beach by accident
I didn't mean to post it but yeah no it no, it is, that's literally, again, I just finished telling you guys I'm like pretty much tech started.
So that's an homage to how easy it is to actually use tracks and get it really
set up. And, you know, the cool thing is like they were mentioning,
there is, there's a lot of control in how you, how you upload it.
It's very quick, but also, you know,
you have that ability to go into the track and change how you want it to be released or who you want it to be released to. You can make it so
that there's, you know, a phone code. So someone has to, you know, text a certain number and,
you know, or pay before they get the code sent to them to unlock that track. So there's like
really interesting little, speaking of like the security features, right?
There's some really interesting little things
that make it again, very much so in the control
of the creator, which is, I think, you know,
that's what Web3 is.
That's what crypto is all really about
is taking control of your creation and of your assets.
So yeah, I just think that's super awesome.
I see we have two speakers on the stage
that we haven't gotten to yet.
I see Pixel up here and I see XFusion.
I would love to say hi to you guys.
I'll go to Pixel first
and then we'll say what's up to Fusion.
How are you doing, Pixel?
How you doing Pixel?
All right, I'm in a noisy place, so I can't speak right now.
Okay, cool. No worries. No worries. What's up, Fusion? How are you doing?
Hey, it's Leowen from XFusion. We are building some interesting thing on ICP, actually the token bundler,
or index tokens. And first of all, very interesting space. Thanks for letting me speak a bit.
What I would like to offer to both clone and tracks communities is to collaborate on some community drops
and create some kind of marketing campaign together.
Because right now we're running a competition
with up to $2,000 in prices.
And I would love to get your communities involved and rewarded.
And also we are open to future collaborations
and let's do some interesting stuff together.
That's what I wanted to say.
And thank you for letting me speak.
So you have a platform where you're basically providing a competition platform for people to win prizes, and that's useful marketing.
No, no, no. Our platform is basically a financial product, which is allowing users to bundle different tokens together.
Let's say Bitcoin, Ethereum, ICP, Clown, etc.
And buy them as index tokens, like imagine as a CF or crypto.
Interesting.
Definitely hit up me or Clown in the DMs
and let's discuss and see what a partnership or collaboration would
look like.
Will do.
Feel free to
send me a message or send Cloud a message
either or. You guys are on ICP, which is
great. I didn't even know
what you guys were coming up.
Will do.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
We're definitely getting in early with all these projects that you know this is what it's all about we're giving you guys the
straight alpha i mean this is like every every space i feel like if you guys are coming into
the space this often you guys are literally getting the cutting edge of partnerships here
yeah this is definitely like i said like this is one of the things i really love about the icp space and that i was
really excited to start hosting these and highlighting some of the projects that are
um using clown as as a platform um to highlight their projects and i you know because there's just
so much really this is like some real alpha is coming out of this community
um but yeah what's up what's up is listen guys i'm we're more in the chill hour of things now
so if the conversation just flow and just hop right in don't worry about a hand oh okay yeah
man um i just wanted to go um x x fusion that that was an amazing idea right and and i'm i'm
an anthem maker right for multiple projects and different things, right?
And as soon as you started to speak, right, and you said what you said, boom, my head said, shit, I just asked techno to collab, right?
Techno was part of this community, right?
I want to be a part of this community, right?
We're both on tracks, right?
Why don't we create an anthem for ICP, right?
Right?
Add maybe like, you know, 430 and my guy track on the track, right?
Put that on tracks, right?
Representing ICP, right?
And then boom, we got something for the community.
And then X-Fusion could put up that bread,
like you said, bada bing, bada boom.
How do you feel about that?
Can be interesting
way to do
that as well, obviously.
Again, we can discuss that
and some other
maybe even further deeper collaborative ideas.
And yeah, I'm definitely open to any kind of collaboration.
Because again, it's a beginning stage for us as a project.
the project and i i believe all all of us want to kind of help each other in in any way we can
to grow this community first of all and expand beyond this community uh because that's that's
how we succeed uh as a whole as a as an ecosystem right so i'm definitely open to and literally any idea that
that can be discussed uh and yeah sure let's let's discuss it and uh let's let's see what we
we can make make out make out of it so yeah they're definitely open to uh discussions on that
uh front as well all right awesome uh i you. If you could give me a follow back,
then maybe you could DM and stuff on that
and then just like figure it out on the back end
and stuff like that, right,
for the community kind of thing.
Because I like the vibe in here, man,
for real, for real.
You know what I'm saying, right?
And yo, a lot of people told me about this community, right,
that we got bonds with
right i got a bond with mr 430 i got a bond with with the fucking trap i got a bond with with a
day right like me and me and barbie is is making a bond right we in multiple spaces right just that
i understand where she's come from different things like that right clown is cool as fuck
right come up on here different things right techno was cool right you cool right fucking
tracks but i knew about them for a while right so so i'm i'm not brand new to to like you know
to this right but but i know what's going on so i just take my time with things so right now this
is a perfect time right so yo man i'm ready and and able and willing
to collab right now so uh yeah man whenever y'all ready well where are you based rizzo i forgot to
ask that earlier where where are you located oh i'm in um i'm in the east coast i'm on uh i'm
when i'm in pennsylvania oh that's what's up i'm here in miami okay that's what's up. I'm here in Miami. Okay. That's what's up. Yeah, man. I
might be going to Art Basel, man, but I want to perform on the stage, man. I don't want to go
down and they like, yo, man, I got to be in a crowd or somebody throw me a mic. The event season
is coming. There's a huge event season in Miami and it's coming up. And it usually starts with
Art Basel and then all the music
events come after that. So this is the perfect time for us to sort of get the word out there
about all these projects and use your platform and tracks and, you know, try to like, and
Technologic and sort of like, you know, put Clown out there too, where, you know, those
concerts and those like in real life events is really where you get the attention of people outside of Web3
because they trust you right away.
And if they see the technology and they're like,
oh, okay, I don't have to change anything.
You just kind of use this in the back end
and it upgrades my Web2 platform already?
Sure. What do I sign up?
So I'm looking forward to this season coming up
and it coincides with the altcoin season.
It coincides with liquidity coming finally into the altcoin space, retail finally being involved.
That's supposedly what's supposed to be happening.
And in a way, we could also advertise our market cap and our growing platforms to them and say, oh, yeah, we're not small time anymore.
We're getting there. And if you get on now now you're definitely going to ride the wave of all the
users that are there paying attention to us so yeah uh yeah link up with us and let us know
because um you know i'm probably gonna give you guys some alpha i'm probably gonna be you know
looking into uh barbie uh and i look into sort of a this uh uh what was it called barbie it's it's basically called
blockchain futurist conference and it's happening here yeah conference yeah and so you were talking
about it and we were looking at it and all the big players are there all the big players ethereum
cardano you know it's all kinds of the the the big big time uh coins are going to be there and
affinity is going to be there and you know internet is going to be there and, you know, Internet Computer.
And so Coinbase is there, all that stuff.
So we're looking into, like, getting a ticket, going over there,
trying to apply to be a speaker.
That's happening November.
That's happening the first weekend of November.
I've already put in the application.
I haven't gotten a word back yet.
gotten a word back yet. I've already put the application
I've already put the application from a night ago.
for a night ago.
We're basically going to be
also showing all the progress
that we've made so far. I'm sure that
we're going to be riding on that wave
and then continuing on to the new year
where there's even more events happening here in Miami.
Miami and New York
are really the best places to be
if you want to get exposure in real life
through those events.
So look into that, Rizzo.
That'd be great.
I'm glad that you're in the same time zone because, as you can see, Trax was it, and
we have to sort of always kind of like adjust our times to them.
And I don't mind staying up late for stuff like that.
But still, I feel bad sometimes.
They have to stay up late for us.
Yeah, no, seriously.
I think it's definitely a hand in hand trying to get across the pond
there. But that's what I love about Web3. Yeah, actually, you did touch on some things.
I did put an application in for Futurist for Clown to go speak at Futurist. I did that
yesterday, so I haven't gotten a response back just yet. Knowing me, I will send a follow-up email like this afternoon uh to mayer who is one of the
organizers of futurists to see you know what's going on with that um but either way i'm i'm
certain that we have uh media passes as well so um yeah i i i'm almost absolutely certain on that. The link. But yeah, so you guys can. Yeah, we'll be there, I think, either way.
One way or another, Clown is definitely going to pop up
and be representing at the Futurist Conference
and all the little side events.
It's at the Hard Rock as well.
Oh, did you pop it up in the Jumbotron?
I put it up in the Jumbotron, the link to the event,
so you guys can see what it's all about.
Yeah, check it out.
It's a really cool website.
I think I got it. Yeah, check it out. It's a really cool website.
Yeah, it's actually that event is out of Toronto, which is where I'm from.
They started that event a handful of years ago, and it has been a massive event.
Again, coming from Toronto, we've had Vitalik Buterin speaking at that conference.
We've had some major players in the game pulling up there.
So I'm really excited.
I went to the Futurist in Toronto this year.
They did it a little bit smaller in Toronto this year because they were focused on the Miami as their main event.
So I'm just really excited to go and see what happens there.
But, you know, that should be bullish for you guys on what Clown is doing. We are showing up. We're showing face. We're pulling up. And that's what, at the end of
the day, that's what this entire platform is about, is showing up, showing face, being there,
promoting, and marketing. And so, you know. It's a huge difference, Barbie. I went to Zurich
for the Caffeine AI launch. I went to the San Fran for the hackathon. And that's where I made partnerships with many players, like big time, you know,
you know, Victor, I met Victor Goldau. I met Mega Synergy. I met the Quokka guy, you know,
Marlon. I met all kinds of players, you know, in the space. And also just, you know, seeing
somebody in the flesh is nice too, because in the digital space, we're so used to our voices.
And I know you guys really like my voice, but my face ain't too bad either. I think, I think we can all, you know, agree that if you guys have seen my interviews,
I, you know, I, I guess you could also get a kick out of that. But at the end of the day,
I think that like the speaker platform is good for me to sort of like show that clown is a serious
project. I know that, you know, some people might be put off by the name, but the name is fun. And I think that just having a proper
person in there fills in that doubt, you know, kind of like does away with that. As soon as you
have somebody proper presenting the thing, it's like, okay, no problem. You know, we'll go with
this because they got good representation. So thank you guys for supporting us on that always.
they got good representation. So thank you guys for, for supporting us on that always.
Yeah, no. And yeah, I appreciate it. And also like, I, I've definitely fallen absolutely in
love with what clowns doing. Like I said, like the last few weeks, I've focused a lot of my energy,
taking it from, you know, the PVP trenches and really focused it into something of value. And,
and like, you know, it was a second, I'll admit,
you know, it was a second for me to like, take it seriously too, because it was like,
oh, it's clown. It sounds silly, like another meme, but then, you know, it does, it stems,
it has a very memeable name as a very memeable narrative, to be honest with you. But then you
realize that there's a functioning app. It's not an idea. This is functioning. This is working.
There's functions that are being added. There's things that are being, you know what I mean?
Every day the team is in the background, like updating things, running, you know, beta testing on certain things.
Okay, this didn't work. Like the team is working overtime.
And, you know, it's just something that was really missing from the Solana space. It's a lot of great ideas and, you know, no real plan or execution.
No shade to Solana community.
But, like, you know what I'm talking about.
I don't need to, like, I don't need to say it twice.
You know what I'm talking about.
There's really good ideas, right?
But the innovation and the action, the execution is happening over here in ICP.
And, yeah, and Clown,own more specifically is just a great opportunity.
Again, kind of going back with tracks, if you're an artist, if you're a project, if you have an
NFT project, if you have a business, you know, that's online, it doesn't even have to be crypto.
You know, if it's crypto, like say, you know, you're making crypto branded, whatever, you know, you can
utilize the clown platform to highlight your project, come in, hey, I just want to make sure
I get a traffic directed to my website, or I want to get traffic directed to my Twitter page.
This is a way to just create a promotion and have a bunch of influencers, micro to medium to bigger influencers, you know,
and we're building very quickly over here. We've got some more people coming in that, you know,
I've been noticing lately and, you know, they're getting bigger accounts over here. So things are
really about to start snowball. And, you know, if you're using this platform, just know that
this is it. This is next next if you're trying to influence if
you're trying to get your um yourself you know a position in web 3 and haven't been an influencer
before or don't know how to get a contract this is a perfect way for you to get your feet wet to
show that you can do that type of stuff um but yeah so anyways i could go on and on about it, but I'm not going to.
I know. I love it. Just go on.
I'll throw the shade at Solana.
I'll be the guy that, I'll be the bad cop today.
I'm not really good at it, really, but at the end of the day,
Solana don't have it.
They got it to a certain degree, and yes, they got the liquidity,
and yes, they got the cloud, and yes, they got the whole meme coin craze,
and they got the cool and yes, they got the whole meme coin craze and they got the cool looking stuff on their platforms because it's hosted on the web two thing and
they have all these really cool graphics and stuff.
That's all coming to us, by the way.
We're actually almost there when it comes to matching their style.
And I think in a way, we're just going to improve their platform as well.
And we're going to bring them over by using our technology that they can't do. You know, this is an example of Clown. It's a Web3 application superimposed on the Web2 space. And any, you know, like you said, any artist and any business can come in, put an allocation, you know, a bounty of sorts of coins.
put an allocation, a bounty of sorts of coins. And then we have miners. We have dedicated people
that are advertising based on the fact that they want to earn that particular coin. And then they
just post and post and post and post. And in a way, Barbie, we have an advantage, whereas the
team is working 24-7 on trying to make this a better user experience and to make partnerships
and stuff like that. The DAP is taking care of all the marketing. The DAP is doing it automatically. The people
are getting paid out automatically. Everything is getting done automatically. So it's almost like,
you know, I don't think people really realize that like, you know, the infrastructure is there.
It's only going to get better and it's working 24 seven. And that's how, you know, crypto is. Crypto is a 24-7 space. And so that mind share, that like constant advertising, it's insidious. It sort of seeps in. And then over time, people just start, you know, subconsciously sort of giving in, in a sense, to that marketing. And it's not really offensive marketing either. We took the steps to sort of prevent spam and prevent bots and to make it organic.
You know, and that's something also that I can say Solana has too much of. They have too much
spam. They have too much bots, too much, you know, inorganic activity. Whereas like we have pure
organic activity and we try and make it, you know, as good as possible because we're out there too,
making sure that our miners doing the best work and they're earning what they can. And even when
they have issues, they come to us and we try and fix it on the match because we've got a great depth.
You know, Serge is just he doesn't sleep. Sometimes I think that he's a vampire or something.
But, yeah, technologic. Yeah. What do you think, man?
So, I mean, a lot of you guys know me. I've been around for a minute.
So I agree with you for sure with like
the whole solana statement right like um there there are some there are there are a couple of
really good pods of of people that are that are building out some some really cool stuff i think They just, they haven't really done the deep dive into the IC.
I am involved in a Solana project as well.
You guys may have seen me post about it sometimes.
There's a project called Antivirus.
It's created and developed by John McAfee's old team.
His wife is actually the head of it.
And I always looked up to John growing up,
you know, being ahead in the 90s and in the thousands
and everything and everything he stood for
and brought to, you know, the tech world
and his vision and everything.
And it all just kind of started with me supporting
and then like Rizzo has done with some
projects like I created an anthem for him you know I just kind of started delving into the realm of
of vocals like over the past year like I released my my first vocal album back in April on my
birthday and so then I was just kind of tinkering around with some
lyrics and I was, you know, the project itself is really cool. I don't want to shill it, especially
because it's a Solana project. I'm in an icy space and we all have similar views on it. But
back to the music sense, just me being a creator and an artist, being able to put myself out there, like landed me in direct contact with like somebody of that caliber.
Right. I have gone back and forth with Janice and Josh, like the, you know, the dev team behind Antivirus.
the dev team behind antivirus.
And this is all based off of somebody I looked up to as a kid
and even now post-mortem after John was Epstein'd.
I'm working actively with them.
And without Web3 in general, whether it be Solana or not,
it has enabled myself as a musician to be able to speak my mind and then
also also get support from it i've i've spoken directly to josh their main developer about
the ic and just kind of asked him to look into it but he's always traditionally been a solana
developer and then previously Ethereum and stuff.
But they do have a lot of cool security products that are coming out.
And I just kind of wanted to, like, I want to trash talk him to his face a little bit. Just kind of prod him to go look into the IC because of the security implementations, right?
If you're implementing a set of security tools, Solana might not be the
place for it. So there is the, I don't know, the possibility that some of these other teams out
there to move on over. Are you possibly clown looking into the future of being more like cross-chain?
Well, cross-chain is here in the sense that we do offer allocations in Bitcoin.
We have CKBTC.
It's the ICP version of Bitcoin.
We have Ethereum, CK Ethereum.
We have also USDC. You could actually put a CKUSDC allocation, which is sort of like a stable coin that anybody can use on any platform.
And so we have it, right?
We have those coins, which are the big, big coins.
But we want to get Solana.
And we just had spaces with Omniti on Sunday.
And they're basically working on that technology of bringing Solana in on ICP.
technology of bringing Solana in on ICP. And when they finish with their back end of that,
we're going to be the first people to utilize that so we can have a Solana allocation
possible on the ClownDap. And that's coming probably Q4 of this year. Now that's another
big coin, but there's other CK coins out there too. We just added CK OCT, which is the Omnities coin on the ClownDap. So if there's any CK, which is a chain fusion
ICP version of these other coins that you guys want to add, request it to the ClownDap. And then
we'll add it right away because it's already an ICP. So in a way, ICP already solved the chain
fusion problem for certain coins. And all the other coins are going to start coming very soon, hopefully.
But Solana is the big one, obviously.
That's the biggest altcoin that we want also because we know that will be a perfect fit for people coming in.
And in our DAP, we already have a way of using Phantom Wallet and SoulFlare Wallet into the DAP.
using Phantom Wallet and SoulFlare Wallet into the DAP. But I would recommend more using OISI
and Internet Identity for the DAP to sign in because the Phantom Wallet and stuff is still
being worked on. We're still trying to work on the capabilities of that. And that's probably
going to get much better by the time we have the Solana allocation available for you guys.
So yeah, crosschain is here when it comes to Bitcoin,
Ethereum, and CK OCT, and any other CK coins that you want to add, just tell us and we'll add it.
I think there's CK Pepe already out there. There's CK SHIB. There's other coins that haven't been requested yet, and maybe we'll just add it ourselves, but usually we're so busy
that we wait till somebody asks for it and then we do it.
But at the end of the day, yeah, cross chain is here, certain aspects of it and the rest is
coming very soon. So yeah, still be involved and still think of new ideas to make an allocation.
And then the raids feature, the raids feature is going to be something more attractive to the
DGens in those spaces too. So we're going to have all these uh available for them it's it's interesting features coming for the dap
and uh and we're working all the time so and our team is expanding all the time too where we're
definitely adding new team members over time and we're definitely looking for uh people to help us
get to that next level yeah that being said by, guys, I want to break up the conversation just real quick.
Make sure that you are following this clown account here. As you know, the other account
we were locked out of. So make sure that we give that new account to follow.
We got to get that following back up and make sure we're promoting that. By the way, if you are
in the allocations on the DAP, you'll see that promotion of the new
account is one of the allocations. It is one of the campaigns, which should actually really show
you that if you just have someone who's looking to get their account out there and get their account
noticed and attention, they can do that. And, you know, they're not
breaking the bank. It's almost like a giveaway. But with a giveaway, if you're doing giveaways
on your profile to grow your profile, remember that it's just the people who are seeing your
giveaway. So you could actually put that giveaway as an allocation. And now you have
multiple people actually reposting and sharing and posting about your account. So just another
way to attack that user growth organically. I mean, you are technically paying for exposure,
but you're not paying for botted followers, which is a massive difference, by the way.
And also, I kind of wanted to bring that up
briefly while I'm kind of on that little bit of conversation, guys. And I'm going to drop some
massive gems tomorrow in the Thursday space. I have a whole list of little tips and tricks of how to
get attention to your posts and, you know, how to make your posts more meaningful.
and, you know, how to make your posts more meaningful.
And so that just being said, though,
a massive thing is that if you don't have real followers,
I mean, your conversions are not going to be there.
And, you know, it might be a temporary win,
but it won't be a win long term,
especially when you're trying to promote
and have traction in things.
Bots don't, they don't give you traction. They,
they just give you like a false sense of, of movement. Um, but eventually reality will hit.
So, you know, the botted movements, botted activities is short-term gain, uh, and long-term
disastrous, especially, uh, when you have to try and get your algorithm back on track.
Anyways, I'm, i'm going into tomorrow's
space right now right now so uh let's i'm gonna hold up um i see banana down there um but yeah
i think i think uh you know if there's any more questions or anything we can touch on
um maybe we'll we'll start getting to the end of this and uh yeah i see rizzo come on come on i got a quick one um like uh i know that he was
mentioning the tokens and and he said as soon as you mention it then they might be able to uh
open up that that box but uh what about um avax you know i'm saying are you guys can like can you do something on that blockchain?
Or is that like... So far, I don't think there is a chain fusion version of AVAX on ICP.
Maybe that might happen in the future.
But that's something that we would have to talk to Omniti about as well.
Because Omniti is definitely on the cutting edge of bridging these coins over to ICP without Dfinity's help.
They're sort of taking it upon themselves to be the bridge that brings these coins over.
And I would imagine AVAX would be something very lucrative because AVAX is still around.
I think they're getting a nice attention this run.
They actually had a really nice run last year and uh let me look
up avax too because i haven't really been keeping track of them uh avalanche and yeah
yeah i'm an avax yeah i'm yeah i'm an avax because i'm because i'm over there on on that platform
called arena oh yeah so i stack up my AVAX.
And I know a lot of AVAX maxis and shit like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, it's funny.
They had a huge pump from November till December last year.
Huge pump from like $22 to all the way to $55.
Yeah, $55, yeah.
Yeah.
I remember that pump because it coincided right along the same time as ICP.
So, I remember that pump because it coincided right along the same time as ICP.
And it seemed like this year they had the same kind of situation with ICP where an altcoin didn't really get the attention as much as Bitcoin and Ethereum.
So AVAX is actually something that we could work together with, with bringing up their market cap alongside of us, because altcoins are going to get their day, man.
I mean, finally, I think that we're the pain. We have more pain behind us than in front of us because altcoins are going to get their day, man. I mean, finally,
I think that we're the pain. We have more pain behind us than in front of us. We probably have another couple of months of downtrend, but as soon as the alts hit the bottom when it comes to the
BTC pair, then we're going to finally see some rotation over to the altcoins. And I'm thinking
that's going to happen around November time too. So from November all the way up until probably December or January, that's a good opportunity
for us to maybe partner up with AVAX and take advantage of their swing of price as well,
because they might surpass $55. I think they might even go up to like a hundred dollars,
I would say, because last run, they went all the way up to 125 i mean that that's that was their piece
that's saying that's that's the um you know and i always say that right because you know i've been
in there long enough to see it drop and bounce right and then uh what's going on now with what
they're building right um i'm in the game and i'm seeing it right so So I know that this is just the bottom. We didn't hit the alt yet. So
it's going to go to those numbers, but I just don't want to be a predictor because I don't
want nobody to fall on a sword because they listen to me saying it's 108 and they bet their
whole bag on it. But me, I have, you could say I'm a maxi in it, right? Because I invested my time, my music, my energy, plus I earned and I get passive on that blockchain, right?
So, you know, I feel like the technology over there with what you guys are speaking on the projects and everything that you guys are doing on what I'm hearing now, I feel like, you know, why not add it?
And I feel like both of y'all
could benefit off each other because you got some good stuff going on over here. And I know
they're building out some good stuff over there. So why not? You know what I'm saying? I'm all
about collaborations if you didn't notice that by now. That's how ICP is going to survive,
brother. I mean, ICP is going to be working on the backend to upgrade all these other blockchains
that don't have the resources or the energy or like, you know, the drive to update their platforms because,
you know, it's going to take a lot of time. And you know how it is in the crypto space.
Things are sort of accelerating very quickly. And, you know, the technology here is way more
advanced. And that's what ICP's bag is all about, is to upgrade their
platforms to the true web three, bringing them over. And in the backend, right now, we have a
lot of BTC DeFi in the space where their platforms are advertising their projects, and they don't
even mention that they're on ICP. It's just working, as long as it works, right? They don't
care. No one cares as long as it works.
And right now, getting everything on-chain is what it's all about.
Caffeine AI just came out.
This is going to give developers even more of a chance to make applications on-chain
and bring over that content from Web 2 to Web 3.
And that's probably going to help a lot with AVAX.
AVAX is definitely a leader in making big leaps and they like to move fast.
And I would imagine that Avalanche has a lot of liquidity too that we would like to have
as well. I remember AVAX being the talk of the town, the last bull run for sure. That was their
first major bull run. ICP started the coin right in the middle of the bull run. So it's almost like
it didn't really count. I think this is technically the first real bull run for ICP. And we're yet to see how far the price can go.
And after that, hopefully the reputation of ICP will get more known. And then during the bear
market, that's when those other blockchains are going to come to us and say, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,
we got to get ready for the next wave because everyone's figuring out that we don't got,
we have some of the technology, but you guys got the technology we need. And, oh, we don't have to mention you?
Great, great.
Here, take our money, take our money, take our money.
I see that coming very quickly, that wave to ICP.
And last night on our spaces, we had a really nice late-night space.
We had it for like a few hours.
And a lot of the debates was, where is ICP going to go after the all-coin season?
What are we going to do during the bear market?
Because the price is going to go so low.
Oh, my gosh.
But like I was saying, no, man, I mean, you know, just diversify your portfolio.
Make sure you don't dedicate your whole portfolio into alts.
Redirect your money back into Bitcoin during the bear market.
Start accumulating and then start preparing for the fact that ICP is going to start being utilized by other alts regardless because the technology is here for them.
And I think the institutional partnerships that Affinity is making is going to come to fruition
even more during the bear market because the price isn't going to be the focal point.
It's going to be more what can you do for us.
And ITP already has it in spades.
So Barbie's figuring it out.
She's here.
You guys are figuring it out now firsthand.
And all these partnerships are going to definitely spread out really quickly.
So I thank you guys for coming. Really, you guys are the best. Shout out to you guys.
Shout out to everybody out there. The team, Y10L, he's on the team with us. Billy on Bitcoin too.
These guys are on the team. These guys are working every day for free. They got their clown bag and
they haven't sent it through it to go up, but they're not getting paid in a sense. They're
doing this for free guys and they're really helping out. Billy on Bitcoin is one of our
best miners. Shout out to Mega Synergy, always a big
supporter, always here helping us. Check out his coin, MGSN. Party Hats, huge, huge Party Hats fan.
Shout out to them. They got the best NFTs out there. They're really killing it in their game.
They got the best memes. They're really going to go far, I think. Shout out to Crypto Pirates and
Thea. You guys are out there mining. You're like crazy.
We really depend on you miners to really step up your games.
And you guys have really been showing a great community.
Shout out to MoICP, always here all the time.
Shout out to Aubrey, 80s, Banana.
Newcomers here.
I see a lot of new faces, you know.
And shout out to Bitwalker, too.
Bitwalker, you've been one of our biggest miners.
I really appreciate you guys.
And Rizzo and Technologic, thank you for coming. And Xfusion, you guys are
brand new to the space. I really appreciate you guys coming. Welcome to the ICP community.
And we're going to go far, guys. We're going to take this to the next level.
And thank you, Barbie, again for hosting. I really appreciate you. You always say it's
going to be an hour. It's never an hour every time you say you're going to be
i feel like i'm like just cutting everyone off i'm like hold on guys
i try and talk as fast as i can during spaces to get as much content to you guys but regularly on
my own time i try and speak a little slower but i have coffee before the space i get all amped up
because of barbie so yeah but thank you barbie again for giving your time sure i appreciate it and i love i love it i
love being part of this situation and now look omnity dropped a little alpha to us on sunday
we got tracks dropping that they just launched it i don't even think that they launched that as a
you guys i don't i didn't see it on their x profile they didn't see it on their X profile. They didn't even say on their X profile yet that they've launched the app.
So we literally just firsthand got that alpha.
I had to answer a big question, which I was answering now about Solana and the cross-chain.
That was something that we were waiting on them for, really.
And now they give us the alpha, so now I can answer these questions.
And so slowly but surely, slowly and then suddenly.
Yeah, absolutely. And that's exactly I didn't expect that from these spaces guys i am planning on doing uh
these these regular you know crossover spaces with projects and highlighting them and you know get
into grilling them get into asking them the hard questions get into making sure you know you're
doing your due diligence um these are the spaces for that.
Learn the projects, learn what they're about, learn who's behind them, you know, just get all of the information because that's really at the end of the day, you know, if you're making
investments, there's no financial advice coming from this, but we are just giving everyone the
opportunity from the founder to, you know, potential investor or user as to what these
projects are. And, you know, show spaces are cool,
you know, but they, I feel like these highlighting spaces really give people the opportunity to get
into the nitty gritty of what they're doing and, and, you know, address the audience one-on-one.
So excited to do these. We do have our clown space tomorrow, 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
It is going to be more about creators and using the app.
And there's a handful of new users.
Shout out to Aubrey down there.
I know she's a new user to the platform.
I think there's a few other people that will pull up and we'll go through.
I want to go through and, you know, almost do a tutorial for you guys.
I know there's been talk of doing like a clown college thing.
We're going to help you guys, okay? Because I know that there's a lot of confusion with the DAP and I know there's some things that we've got to clean up and you guys are actually helping us
clean up all the bugs. And we're also going to try and come up with a manual for you guys. So
it's going to be a combination of updating you guys on all the tips and tricks and the best way
to mine and also how to make your posts very, very attractive
to the algorithm. The algorithm on X now is way more AI driven than ever. And right now,
hashtags are not a thing anymore. Making your post very concise and very to the point is very good.
Having cash tags more than hashtags is a big deal. And also like our AI, it looks at your post and don't
really worry so much about the rating. It's very minimal, the amount of extra mining you're going
to get from the AI, but the AI is there for you to sort of guide you a little bit on like giving
you a score and a rating of how you're doing with the length of your post and how deep it is and
the sentiment and stuff. But don't really worry too much about getting a full 10 out of 10. Just a 5 out of 10 is going to give you what you need to mine the AI.
And also the AI itself is going to be probably more sophisticated over time where it's not going
to be too much of a factor with your mining. It'll give you a little bit of an edge, but really what's
more important is the level of your miner, the joker's blessing, and also the frequency of your
posts and the engagement. Reposts are Joker's blessing, and also the frequency of your posts
and the engagement. Reposts are more important than likes and comments and reposts and saves
are always really great. And you guys are going to see over time, you'll get the hang of it.
And Billy on Bitcoin, he's one of our best guys, Crypto2, Crypto Pirates, and Thea,
you guys are our best miners. So you guys are going to be the professors of this clown college,
which is going to be like almost like a chat that's going to help new miners come in and learn right away how to get the most engaging posts and make them organic
and make them so that the X algorithm spreads them out even quicker because it's more attractive
and because it's easier to come up with that. Once you get the hang of it, really, you'll see
it's not that hard, but I know it has a big learning curve at first.
I know it has a big learning curve at first.
But yeah, we'll definitely get into all of that tomorrow afternoon, again, 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
I'm going to quickly throw the post up there in the Jumbotron.
While I'm doing that, please make sure to give everybody on the panel a follow.
If you haven't already downloaded that Trax app, it's pretty decent.
It's pretty cool. Um, you know, play around,
let them know if you are in the music industry,
if you are someone who uses streaming services for music,
which I think we all do. Uh, definitely. Uh,
give me one second here, guys. I'm just getting you tomorrow's link. Um,
yeah, this has been a super, I'm, I'm really excited about these spaces.
Oh, and also on Friday, we are highlighting Icy Spicy, which is a RWA aggro play going on.
That's, that's something else that we're doing here.
Give me a second.
Go ahead, Snatch, for a second, if you don't mind.
No, like, you know, just, just to reiterate, this is a full week for us.
We got a lot more spaces than we usually do. We usually do just two, but we're giving you guys four. Okay, we're giving you guys, you know, especially with big players like Trax and also IC Spicy. And we're going to keep on getting more and more of the people that are sticking around in ICP.
around in ICP, there's been a dry run. There's been a lot of projects that have sort of been
working in the back end. And just because the price is low and just because there's not much
liquidity doesn't mean that people aren't working. It doesn't mean that the devs aren't putting in
the time to make their platform as best as it can be. They're just not getting the attention
because Dfinity is marketing more to institutions. They're marketing Bitcoin DeFi. So that's where
we step in. That's where Clown has filled in that need to represent all these other projects that
are not getting the attention they deserve. So a shout out to you guys for coming on the space
and giving us your time as well, and also utilizing the platform to promote their projects and our
project. That's how we're all going to get to the top. It's totally taking a village and it's
totally partnerships upon partnerships to help each other. We're not stepping on each other's
necks. We're not actually trying to dump on each other. We're actually trying to spread the wealth.
And really people in the space deserve that because in ICP, we've been really patient.
We've been extremely patient when it comes to the price. We've been extremely patient when it comes to the price we've been extremely patient when it comes to the development and uh i've only been here for about a few years and it feels like 20. okay it feels long
but at the end of the day i i know that like it's worth it and uh and just because your money's in
the line uh doesn't mean that you can't have fun right doesn't mean that you can't like engage the
community and and see this through and like i said in the all coin season uh take it take your
profits get your gains start rotating into other uh long-term coins but icp is also going to look
at too maybe when it goes back down to these levels after the bull bear run start dc-ing back
in if you want and also look into other projects that are going to stick around there's going to be
a huge turnover rate and the ones that are going to be left are going to be the ones that we're
talking to in my opinion the ones that are the real developers of the space,
the OGs of the space.
I also just want to throw in, because I'm not sure,
but if there are a few companies that aren't necessarily on ICP,
we can still work with you through the process and use the platform.
Definitely shoot me or Clown a DM here,
and we'll see how we can work with you guys uh and we'll show
you our some of the you know again because we're on icp we don't want that to be a barrier and we
do have some solutions for that so definitely hit us up in the back channels um yeah i just want to
say thank you for everyone for pulling up and supporting i see people that have come in from
different communities i see a lot of the the ICP guys have popped in here.
So shout out to you guys for continually popping up and supporting and, you know, welcoming me into
the community. And I'm just like actually so happy I'm learning like a ridiculous amount of
information. That is that's massive alpha. So thanks again. And hopefully we'll see you tomorrow
afternoon. I did post that up in the Jumbotron.
So feel free to set your reminders.
And actually, sorry, that's for the other one.
But you know what?
It's on my...
I got a dinosaur here, guys.
We'll post a reminder too on our page too.
And we'll have you guys just like and follow and repost it. And yeah, tomorrow at 3 p.m.
Eastern Standard Time, the regular Crown Space where Barbie says, yeah, we're just going to go
over more about how to utilize it that better, all our updates. And I promise I'm not going to
repeat the same information to you all the time. I try and come up with new things for you guys
all the time. But yeah.
All right, guys.
Have a great afternoon.
Thanks for pulling up
and see you tomorrow.
Ciao.
Arrivederci.
Thank you guys for coming.
