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The Bloom Room #003: Changing our Internal Climate ๐ฑ letโs talk $ilver
Recorded: Jan. 19, 2026 Duration: 3:41:24Space Recording
Short Summary
In a recent discussion, participants explored the implications of Bandcamp's ban on AI music, highlighting a significant trend towards protecting artistic integrity in the music industry. This move could signal a shift in how artists are supported and compensated, potentially leading to new fundraising opportunities and innovative token models that prioritize human creativity.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Music Thank you. Hi everybody! Thanks for coming. I see you guys there. If you want to come up and be a speaker,
please feel free to request. You can probably hear my chicken sizzling in the background just
putting food on my plate sending it out in the DMs so if anybody wants to go and
do the repost thing that would be lovely let's get everyone in here oh there it
is he's ready i'm gonna throw out another co-host invite but feel free to decline if you can't do it
oh my god that tripped me out kc looks looks like Jules right now. I'm sure there's a story there.
I love it. This is kind of like cooking ASMR at the beginning of the space. That's what it's become.
at the beginning of the space. That's what it's become. I made homemade like chicken
nuggets. I guess like not really chicken nuggets because I didn't bread them. So it's just
like nugget shaped chicken tenders. I don't know. I don't know how to describe that. Um,
I don't know how to describe that.
And homemade french fries.
Because I felt like having a naughty meal.
But, yeah.
I even made like an aioli type of dipping sauce.
Your girl is ready to roll.
Oh, it looks like we're having troubles.
Oh, there we go hey aj how are you melody in the house what's going on girl how's your adventures sorry i can't
every time i join i always gotta like drop come back this app is nuts really what are you up to girl oh my god so much it's been a crazy crazy week um
yeah like i mean teaching my students i threw a birthday party for my friend uh yesterday
at my apartment it was my first time throwing a party here and i was so nervous about it but it went well um so i did that yesterday and then i've got studio time booked for very soon i
think yeah next weekend i'm in the studio which is really exciting we just need to there's a couple
things we're buttoning up now that we have um our drummer and bassist available that's the hardest
part about everything is
coordinating things with people when they're on tour and busy and stuff. So yeah, just,
you know, living the dream. How about you? How are things?
Oh, everything's good. Just going forward, moving forward, one slow step at a time.
I'm just like taking one step at a time. Every time I take a step in the direction there,
I kind of need to go,
even though I don't want to take the step.
But when I do take the step,
the path starts appearing.
So it's like,
I don't know where I'm going,
but then I take a step and the path appears.
And all of a sudden I'm being led and I'm really like,
just move forward.
And that's it.
We got the great olive in the house,
danger,
Devin in the house James as real
jewels Yeah, let's get more people in here everybody go repost the space send it in the DMS. I know it's a Sunday night, but
I'm sure I mean I've spent many Sunday nights with you guys, so I'm sure we're gonna end up with a good crowd here
Casey, how are you?
Thanks for coming up.
I'm doing good.
Still haven't finished my update yet, but making steady progress.
So, yeah, hopefully next week we'll be done.
That's awesome.
How are you this week?
I'm doing well. I'm likewise like making steady
progress and just continuing to move forward. Like AJ said, um, it feels good. It feels like
the year's off to a good start, a good productive start. I feel like I'm on track. So that's
exciting. Um, I'm busier. I'm definitely busier than I was last year.
And that always makes me a little bit nervous because it's hard to manage everything.
And to, like we talked about before, avoid burnout.
But I think I'm getting better at that.
Just like avoiding burnout.
I'm self-monitoring a lot more.
Like I can, I know my signs of like,
hey girl, you gotta like,
you gotta like step back and take care of yourself a little bit.
I know what to look for now.
Whereas I think when I was a bit younger,
that was harder to do.
And I'm definitely the type of person
that's like, go, go, go, go, go.
I remember when I was like a teenager saying to my dad,
like when I'm older, I was like really young.
I can't even remember how old I was. I was like, when I to my dad like when I'm older I was like really young I can't even remember how old I was I was like when I'm older I want to be busy all the
time like I want to just be flying here and flying there and doing stuff every single day I never want
to be at home I just want to be busy busy busy because that's just like who I'm who I am I guess
it's in my blood to be honest but um now I'm like finding I found out the hard way that you can't, you can't always be, you know, giving 100.
Like you got to sometimes give 100 back to yourself, right?
You got to take care of yourself.
That's part of being busy.
Rest is a part of progress, to be honest.
So I don't know.
Sometimes the best move is to stand still.
Yeah, absolutely. Like today I was, you know, like I said, I threw a party last night for my
friend's birthday. It was so nice. Cause she's never, she told me, she's like, I've never had
a birthday party. She never, like her family never threw a birthday party. Um, her best friend's
boyfriend is born on the same day as her. anytime she went to his birthday party it was like happy birthday Andrew and McKenna like it was never her
birthday so I felt really like I was like I just want to make this special for
her so that way she feels like she's getting a real birthday celebration so
yeah it was fun and then today I could feel that I was so drained and I'm like, I'm not going to be
able to do this space tonight if I'm this drained.
So your girl sat on the couch and spent maybe two hours horizontal taking a nap.
I took a nap today.
I'm not really like a napper because naps usually make me feel gross.
But today I felt good after this nap.
Yeah, you can't beat a good nap, like a good
afternoon nap where you just wake up. But if you're groggy, it ruins the whole day. But if not,
it's like the best thing ever. Nothing better than a nap. Yeah. I've learned a couple tricks
about napping. Apparently if you take an, if you're going to take a short term nap,
it's got to be like a 20 minute nap. It can't be much longer than that. It's got to be 20 minutes if it's going to be a short nap. And you've got to elevate your feet above
your heart. And apparently you'll wake up feeling super refreshed. And I've tried it and it's worked.
So I do that when I'm taking like a short nap. And then there's like a trick. I can't remember
today. I didn't even fucking care. I was just like, man, if I sleep till eight o'clock and have to start the space as soon as I wake up, I don't care. I was exhausted. I'm old. I'm getting old. And I'm like, I can't party till three in the morning anymore.
nap, you have to think of it as like 90 minute intervals, I think it is. And like, if you're
going to nap for 90 minutes, that's great. You're going to wake up feeling refreshed,
but you can't wake up at like 120 minutes. It has to be like 90 minute intervals. So
apparently that's a thing. I don't know how true that is, but sometimes it works.
And listen, we got to talk about the AI slop that is all over. Not only the internet,
not only these articles, not only music, not only books, it's fucking everywhere. AI bullshit slop.
It's brutal. It's kind of, it's getting really annoying because people keep sending me videos
and they're like, oh my god, watch this cute video.
My mom, she's like, she can't decipher the difference, okay?
She can't.
She's working on it, but she can't.
And she sends me videos.
She's like, look at this.
This is so cute.
And I'm like, mom, that's AI.
I'm so sorry, but it's AI.
And I feel like I'm like the downer.
I'm like ruining her moment there.
Can you guys hear my pepper mill?
Yeah, I don't know.
I feel bad because I'm like, guys, like you got to have a radar for this.
And also with music, you got to have a radar.
There's been many times I'm listening to, you know, I'll just put on YouTube and it gives me like my nice little algorithm.
And it makes suggestions for me.
It's like showing me something it thinks I want to hear.
And I wish I could go in because there's been many times I've been duped.
And I'm like, why is this person, this bot is trying to pretend that they're like an artist?
Like, I don't know and I've been duped and I wish I could go in and like change a setting on my YouTube and my
x account and Instagram and all that kind of stuff I wish I could go in and be like don't
show me AI content and I know that that's possible because platforms like Deezer are like scraping their platform and not paying out AI
artists like AI creators. So like I know it's possible. So I really, really hope that
the other platforms follow suit. We had something crazy happen this week. Was it this week? Was it last week? I don't know.
Time is irrelevant at this point. We had something crazy. Bandcamp, a big platform
that says that they're dedicated to bringing fairness back to the musicians,
has officially banned AI music on their platform.
And that's huge because we've seen Deezer, you know, scraping their platform and not
doing payouts.
They're still allowing it.
We've seen iHeartRadio, one of the biggest radio platforms, you know, they're banning
AI hosts and AI content as well.
But they're not doing it as as strictly as bandcamp
is bandcamp is making it so that way you can go on and you can report if you find an ai artist on
their platform and they will actually just remove you so that's one of the biggest moves i've seen
so far in that regard and i don't know personally i've had multiple people ask me like what's
your opinion on that and I I don't necessarily think like yes it's a good
move in terms of it's it's drawing this line around what can we create or what
can we consider authorship it's like creating that barrier and I think that
that's essentially a good thing.
I do think that's a good thing because we have to protect authorship.
We have to protect people from, I guess, being diluted into this pool of, you know, just constant inflation of what they're trying to create.
Right.
And I think that that's a good thing. But
on the other hand, I can see why people are going to get pissed off and it's going to cause
disputes. I think that that's necessary though. I definitely think that the disputes are necessary.
There's growing pains in every single big tech innovation. There's always going to be growing
pains and people are meant to argue about this stuff i know people don't want to argue about this stuff and sometimes people say oh i
just you know that's not that's not a topic for me to get into i don't know enough like sure that's
fine but let the people that are involved in this industry have their say because if we just say
okay we're gonna let this tech evolve and do its thing without any
safeguards in place I mean music is the least of my worries music is me I mean it's kind of petty
to be like oh my god I'm worried about the music industry when we've got fucking AI military
advancements happening so quickly you know what what I mean? Like I, I sound ridiculous talking about
music in that, in that sense, but it is my industry. So of course I'm going to care about
it. Of course I'm going to try and protect it. Um, I get why some people are, you know,
against my perspective, but I'm still entitled to my perspective. So anyways, I digress. Um,
how do you feel AJ? How do you feel about it?
Oh man, I draw the line when I see Trump's daughter-in-law, Eric Trump's wife, you know,
singing songs and dancing and shit like that. I draw the line at that because they could just
take your voice and then you have this stupid Palm Beach idiots singing your songs, you know?
So I draw the line at that, having, you know, Trump's, that's what's going to happen, you know,
you're going to have the untalented take over the whole entire music engine.
Actually, that's what's happened since the beginning of time.
It's no different.
It's true.
I mean, like, I know I'm, I've been so careful when I talk about this because I don't, I'm
always very careful of people's feelings and I understand
that there are people using it for fun purposes and they're not trying to monetize and I understand
that. That's fine. That's cool. But like, it's the, it's exactly what you just said. It's the
people that are going to call themselves
musicians when they're not musicians. That's where I get kind of frustrated because as someone that
has spent many, many, many, many, many hours of my life, um, dedicating myself to my craft
to be kind of lumped in and competing for the same opportunities as people that, you know, don't know how to perform
or even like play their instrument or play the song that they created or whatever.
That's tough for me.
I'm not saying I hate these people.
I don't have, you know, I don't really have hate for anybody.
I don't, it's not that, it's not that personal, right?
It's more of like protecting the market and protecting the opportunities. Because at the end of the day, yes, we can say, okay, it's not that personal right it's more of like protecting the market and protecting the
opportunities because at the end of the day yes we can say okay it's art we got to protect the
art but at the same time this is how a lot of people make their money and make their living
right this is how people are putting food on the plates of their children um composers that are
going to just be completely washed out because Netflix decides oh we don't have to pay composers
to make music for our films anymore um that's a lot of money that is going to be lost. And not to mention,
in other industries, driving is the biggest industry in the world. And we're going to slowly
replace all the drivers. I don't know about in Canada with our weather and our roads, it might
be a little hard, but, you know, replacing that
many people and all of a sudden telling them, like, you're not a driver anymore. It's like,
not only are they going to be affected with their, like, monetary opportunities. Hold on one second,
I'm delivering food to Dakota. You're going to hear him talking. There you go.
Not only are you going to see these... Can I have a fork?
Yeah, I'll bring you a fork.
Not only are you going to see these people
losing their jobs, literally,
and not being able to put food on their plate,
but their identities are going to be lost along with that.
Because we in the West,
we say, what do you do for a living?
We identify as what we do for a living. So now all of a sudden you're going to see people saying like, I don't
even know what to think of myself. Like, what, what am I, what do I do if I lose this job that
I have? So yeah, it's something to think about too. I think we should go to say what's up to
Rachel. I want to say what's up to Rachel, Olive, DangerDev, Mr. A in the house. We got Krista, Azrael, everybody here. We want in the house. Raph, James, everybody. Hi.
Yeah. Come up, everybody. Let's do this. Let's chat. Yeah. Let's go to โ I love James' perspective so much because he always offers different perspective and makes me think.
James' perspective so much because he always offers different perspective and makes me think.
So I would love to go to James.
James, what's up?
And then we're also going to get into the changing your internal climate stuff.
But I like starting here.
This is a good starting point.
So what's up, James?
Hey, what's going on, guys?
Well, I didn't know what you were mentioning there that the iHeart and these other industries
were removing the AI music from i guess uh standard rotation
but that's fucking great news that's great news for the artists um but yeah i'm as far as like
i'm sure you know that suno changed their standards uh with uh if you if you use an artist
name likeness song or shit like that then they get royalties to the material.
So I'm on board with that.
That's cool.
If someone's going to use your name and your likeness,
you get royalties, period.
But as I said, that can also be a benefit to you as a performer
because if you say, well, I'm getting paid for them to use my voice,
I'm the only one that could really perform it live anyway because they use my voice.
So it could actually become part of your repertoire and another selling point for you.
So I'll just say there are gives and takes in that aspect of the industry.
But I guess since they put it in writing, as far as their terms of service is concerned, then I'm cool with Suno at the moment.
I don't really know what else to touch base on
because I think you're spot on
in a lot of the things that you're already covering there.
You know?
James, do you think the world's ending?
The world is always ending.
It's been ending since it began.
That's, I mean, that's one way to put it the world is always ending it's been ending since it began that's interesting i like that um not wake up tomorrow and and you know but the world may be
here but we won't you never know but know, Mel, I really want to know,
cause I, I remember that first song that I was introduced to you from.
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm not human.
What was that song?
What was the name of that song?
You're I'm not,
I'm not different breed,
different breed.
Oh man.
I really hope that not that I don't adore and love what you're doing,
but man,
I can't wait for you to
revisit that style again and hear what else you do in that aspect because i really dug that that
whole your whole vibe on that on that song thank you i think you'll be happy with um some of the
upcoming music then because this album is um really versatile um so yeah i think that you're probably gonna
i'm doing i'm recording things differently like i'm recording everything live in the studio
like it's all being recorded analog and i'm doing things kind of old school because that's what i
love right i love to do that it's like yeah it's my pride and joy. Like the fact that I can
go and sit in a room. This is why I'm so passionate about the music, you know, the AI music conversation,
because the fact that I can go sit in a room and I'm sitting there with, you know, an engineer,
a drummer, a bassist, and a guitarist, and I'm just there with my acoustic guitar,
playing a song for them that
they've never heard before and then I get to hear their interpretation because then they feed me
their ideas and they're like oh like what about this and what about that and like this is what
I'm hearing on this acoustic demo that you're sharing with me and that to me is like it's a magical moment of connection that i don't want
to ever let go of yes there's been music i've made that didn't have that connection where i just like
write the song send it to the producer or you know dakota produces it and that's definitely
similar because i'm in the room with him so me and him working on different breed was me and him
all like through and through that was me and him that produced that song. Um,
great job. Thank you. Yeah. But the, the songs that I've released that were just like me sending
it to a producer and then, then sending me back something and me being like, okay, great. Like,
this sounds awesome. Let's release it. It it was it was good for the purpose of like
efficiency but for the sake of my like putting my soul into the music it didn't feel the same
just personally it just didn't it didn't feel even close i just like to be in the room and
feeling i want to capture that moment as much as i possibly can so yeah on that aspect of the things and along
with the whole ai thing don't forget the other the other related industry to everything you just said
the recording studios all the tech that the techs that are in the studios the engineers the you
know the the bookkeepers and the entire industry of that is affected. That's why the
RIAA, whatever that four-letter industry is, that was also one of the big reasons that they got
involved because they have to look out for the actual industry of the makers and the shakers
that do the physical labor and that, because that's wiping out man that's that's thousands and thousands of
jobs and lives in that aspect you know granted a lot of them are overpaid in this industry of
bloatedness because you know you can do your production on a shoestring budget with the
right people you know as long as they got the knowledge how to work the gear and stuff like that
you know you're paying for the rental of the room and the gear and stuff like that you know you're paying for
the rental of the room and the gear and the knowledge that they bring to you yeah but yeah
that was another aspect of it as well as the you know the industry that's associated with with making
music in general despite what you sit down and write by yourself yeah it's bringing it to your
peers the musicians you hire or those that you just
normally play with like you said the interaction the ideas that come from different people you
know it's it's it's such a slippery slope but it looks like that it's it's leveling out somehow
from what we see from how you open the space with what's going on across the board with certain things
being pulled so i mean that's a positive we'll just say it the light is getting a little bit
brighter toward the the the personal yeah i think it is i think that people are kind of um
i guess they're just kind of waking up to it like Like when you're bombarded, this is my prediction. When everybody is bombarded with AI content constantly, um, they're going to start to lose touch, right?
With whatever they're interacting with, whether it's social media, music, film. Oh my God. Some
of the movies that are coming out lately. I'm like, dude, who wrote this chat GPT? Like their
chat has no sense of humor. Um, clearly they didn't train their AI well because it's like, dude, who wrote this? ChatGPT? Like, their chat has no sense of humor. Clearly,
they didn't train their AI well, because it's like, dude, some of these movies suck.
I'm sorry, but like, when everything becomes AI prompted and generated, we're gonna start to lose
quality. And people, I just think we're better than that we have better taste than that in my opinion not to
like hate on anybody's you know creations like I just I just think that you gotta give yourselves
some credit and be like I want authentic genuine art I want real interactions on social media I
don't care how many comments I get on a post if it's all
bots why like why would I care about that for ever musicians have you know they make their money I
always go back to musicians because that's me right like this is the example I have to use but
they make their money off of t-shirt sales, not streaming numbers, right?
We are glorified t-shirt and merch salesmen because-
Exactly.
Yeah.
That's all we are, our merchandise vendors.
Exactly.
It's all about branding, right?
So like, yeah, sure.
These bots can come in here and inflate.
I could send a song of mine.
I could send my entire album up to like the millions of streams if I wanted to.
In the blink of an eye, you could see my streams go boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.
And I know how to do that.
It's so easy.
There's literal, like it's bot farming.
It's so fucking easy.
You can pay, you know, a couple grand, depending on how much, you know, you want to put into it.
You can pay some money to get a bunch of streams and fabricate your following.
But what's the point?
I don't understand because you're not making money off of streaming numbers.
You can have a million streams and not make enough to live off of.
So what is the point of that?
People have fallen into this trap of like
false pretense. Like I'm going to pose as a successful person because do not steal my
French fries. Get away, go. I'm going to pose as a successful person. Um, so that way,
then hopefully people will think I'm successful and then I'll actually become successful.
That's what people have kind of fallen into. And it does not work. Time and time again,
we've seen it not work. Who is it? It's Lil Nas. Who was it? Lil Nas X that has like millions of
streams or something and he can't sell tickets to his shows. Like he's, he's playing stadiums
and his label is having to pay people to sit in seats. is it the cost mellow what's what's the what's the
issue there what do you call that to fake it till you make it it's not the cost of the tickets it's
the fact that they are they're fabricating their following so you see they have millions of
followers on spotify it's all bots it's all bot farms you can look it up there's videos of these
bot farms they they set up this big like full of, of phones and the phones are automatically streaming the songs that people
pay to have streamed. And then those people just assume that the algorithm will bump them up to the
top and share their music with a bunch of real people. And yes, that happens, but it's not enough
people because
if your music this is this is where i start to sound like a dick if your music sucks
then you're not then you're not going to get any ticket sales nobody's gonna actually go to your
show it sucks you cannot fool the human ear or the human heart or the human emotion. Yes, there are some people that listen to stuff that you go, that sucked. And they're there rocking along. That's their heart. That's their emotion. And that's what aligns with their frequency. But it's that's like that for everybody. But you're spot on with that.
It's that's like that for everybody, but you're spot on with that.
Miller, it's them bot farms.
Well, you know, it's, it's a moneymaker.
It's a moneymaker.
Yeah.
This world, this world can't get any faker than it is.
You're talking about all these people who are said to have found these companies, whether
it's Facebook, whether it's Elon Musk, these people didn't found goddamn shit.
And then when you're talking about the bots and the algorithms and all this, the mind
control is on another level.
But they did a great job.
I'll tell you that much.
We don't know what's going on.
We don't know where Mr. Beast comes from.
We don't know if these guys are.
And listen, I said this yesterday in this space.
There's something called the Black Awakening.
The Black Awakening is when this guy who actually thought about this,
who actually, this guy named Eustace Mullins. Eustace Mullins is like an OG Alex Jones,
way before Alex Jones. And there was another guy who was his mentor. This guy spoke about
something called the Black Awakening. The Black Awakening was MKUltra victims are going to be
placed all throughout society fucking shit up. They didn't know how or what
or when these guys were going to be placed. They didn't really know what it was going to look like.
They thought it was going to look more like an Antifa type of setting. However, that's not the
case. I think the Nick Fuentes of the world, maybe the Andrew Tate, perhaps the Alex Jones,
perhaps these people are the Black Awakening where they're being put into these high positions
where they can control the minds.
These could be the MK Ultra survival victims
that are being placed all throughout society,
in music, in Hollywood, everywhere,
because you don't have to pay these guys.
You could get major contracts for them
and you take their money because they're your slave.
It's as crazy as that. I love it. AJ always blackpills the space and it's so great. I love it.
I love it so much. The fact is that he's actually right.
Yeah. I mean, okay. So to bring it to the topic of like what I wanted to talk about,
this directly relates because we can talk
You know doom and gloom we can talk we can black pill we can
You know Earlier like you said James like the world is you know always ending right we can go there, but
How can we actually because a lot of people say well?
I'm just you know
I'm just like a little ant on this planet and I don't have a I don't have a say in anything
So I'm just gonna like move along and you know like a little ant on this planet and I don't have a, I don't have a say in anything.
So I'm just going to like move along and, you know, do my thing and let it happen and
whatever.
And I like to think that like, we do have more agency than that.
Like, I don't think it's as simple as just letting things happen around you and, and,
you know, letting the doom take over your life and just being so doom and gloom all the time.
I don't think that's that's not like a healthy way to live.
So I wanted to talk about and this relates to so many things we've talked about already.
But I wanted to talk about how can we actually like change our internal climate?
Meaning like what what is my current state of mind about all of this stuff whether it's ai music whether
it's like the political stuff going on in the world whether it's the markets whether it's
you know your family situation it can be as personal as like your relationship with yourself
and maybe your health and your body image like it can be literally anything um how do we actually
move from being you know like a victim of whatever that is for you and just sitting in that and letting that fester and grow to being a person that, as Tony Robbins says, let's turn our worst days into our best days.
Let's take control over the situation to the highest degree that we can.
I know that we can't go and fix everything, but we can change our internal climate and the way that we see things and the way that we talk about things, the way we frame everything around us and our internal to just become better.
And then I think if more and more people do that, maybe, just maybe, things will slowly change.
What do you guys think about that?
AJ and then James?
Listen, I'm going to say,
once you know that everything's fake,
then you're not trying to compete in a fake world.
You be as real as possible
and you bring shit to life and you create shit.
And it's really authentic.
And maybe you show people that your creation
could be a more authentic creation. And I think it's more liberating. You don't want to be
in this fake world with this fake music and all these people. They have to do sacrifices. People
wouldn't even believe what happens at these higher levels. But the fact that you're not in those
higher levels and you have to sacrifice and you have to do this crazy shit, that's a blessing.
That's such a blessing. I can't even say it.
The fact that we're nothing and we're kind of like on our own networks, that's a blessing.
Once you're at the top, you're a fucking prisoner.
Whether you're in music, whether you're in sports, I have friends in sports, I have friends
in these positions, they're fucking trapped.
They got to watch out.
Their fucking phones are tapped.
They can't do a thing.
They are slaves to watch out. Their fucking phones are tapped. They can't do a thing. They are slaves to the system.
But if it's kind of enlightened because you could actually follow your excitement now,
create and know that you are free.
You're a free creator out there.
Now that gives you like a good feeling, really an abundant feeling.
Because if you don't have your fucking freedom, you see these people fall apart.
Ariana Grande, the top musician of all, she is falling a goddamn part.
Ask yourselves why.
Maybe they're trapped and we're not.
So all this whole shit going on, it's actually very liberating.
We're all lucky to not be something like that.
I like that.
Yeah.
It's actually not a bad position to be like the small little aunt, like I was saying,
because then you, you don't have anybody putting pressure on you or like puppeteering you.
Right.
So I think that's a, that's a great point.
What about you, James?
And then let's say hi to danger dev and then go to Casey.
Am I Mr. Anderson?
Yeah.
We got to go to Mr. Anderson.
Yeah. I'm so stoked to hear everybody's perspective on this.
Let's go.
Okay, I'm going to come at it from just an overall level.
What you consume and what you filter, you shouldn't stop consuming things. Okay, like let's say information. You
should never not want to consume the information so you can discern the information from other
information you've heard. Okay, you always have to maintain a level of discernment. Once you realize
that something you've heard is bullshit because you've seen them say this for this long and then this happened.
It's not what they said.
And then rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat.
Once you see those patterns, you start to recognize them.
You still have to use those inputs of information to know what's going on because they're telling you what's not going on.
But it really you've seen enough of it to know exactly what I'm saying.
OK, it sounds like you're are you talking it to know exactly what I'm saying. Okay.
It sounds like you're, are you talking about like critical thinking skills,
like exercising critical thinking skills? Yeah. It's gotta be like a, your brain has to almost be like a rubber band. You got to take it in, but the rubber band will have like these filters in
it that as it's squeezing back into shape, you've realized, okay, I specifically saw this with my own eyes,
or whatever, even though everything's AI or something, but even in your local community,
where you get a vibe for the people around you and stuff like that. A lot of people are getting
so hooked in on the political aspect, which is such a theater to keep us hooked, okay,
you really have to look out for yourself. Prepare for yourself
and your loved ones to just be ready for anything, anything, because they're telling you anything is
coming, okay? I can't say what it is, but I know that when it's going to happen, it will shock you,
but at least after your 10 minutes of shock, you'll say, thank God I fucking prepared for this because whatever is going to happen, we should be okay.
Think of it in that aspect, whether it be a month of food, whatever, and I don't want to be the doomsdayer.
Boy, we are reaching a plateau in, how can you say?
We're reaching a moment in time where the change has to occur
okay and if you don't believe it there are plenty of those in power and in the esoteric world
who believe it enough to make it happen okay i don't you know i'm not trying to be doom and
gloom that that's just the way it is either you've seen shit go down you said i never thought this would have happened
and it has well they've been telling you they've been telling you for a long time in movies they've
been showing you the possible dystopian futures from hunger games to this game to blade runner
to i robot to this and every and you're watching it on your screen.
You're watching them put a fucking panda suit on a robot,
entertaining kids in a fucking gymnasium, you know?
So just be aware of your surroundings.
Be aware of your friends.
Make sure your friends are in contact with you.
Make sure that you have some type of awareness about what may happen.
You know, even if they may think you're a kook at first, like everybody thinks I am,
until a couple weeks later shit happens and they're like, uh-oh.
So just, you know, look out for number one.
Don't recognize the distractions.
Understand what they're trying to distract you with and or from,
be discernible about it.
Talk to others about it.
You love the black pills.
Talk to AJ about it.
Talk to those who aren't afraid to talk about it.
Okay. Because you need that other open end to come into your view.
Okay.
Don't live a fucking narrow viewed life. Go for your goals.
Do your thing. Don't stop doing what you love. Okay. Keep it going forward, but just be prepared
for anything in this time period of life. Let's put it there. I like that. So we kind of got the,
we kind of got the two opposite, like you guys kind of said the same thing in opposite directions.
Cause AJ, yeah.
Like AJ is saying like the optimistic, like, you know, we're in a great position right now.
We should be grateful.
You know, like we should be grateful that we're in this position.
We're not being, we're not at the top.
We don't have to make these tough decisions.
We're not involved directly.
We're not involved directly.
Like that's an, that's a great place to be.
Like that's a great place to be.
And then James here is saying that, okay, but instead of like, I get, so maybe AJ is
saying like, let's not let the doom kind of paralyze us.
Let's not let the, you know, the things that we're learning paralyze us because we're
us because we're actually in a good position. But then James is saying, okay, but let's also not let
actually in a good position.
the ignorance is bliss kind of mindset paralyze us as well, because that can be problematic too,
right? Then you end up in this like, oh shit, I'm not prepared for something because I was just
living my life like, well, I don't have the emotional capacity for that. So I'm just going
to put this wall up in front of my face and I'm going to act like nothing's happening. So we just got two very similar perspectives,
but kind of tackling opposite ends of the spectrum. And I love that. That's really cool.
I think we should go to, um, we, we heard from, we heard earlier from Casey already. I want to say
hi to Mr. Anderson and then we'll go to Casey and then we'll go to Tom. Oh no. And danger,
Devin shit. Okay. Danger, Devin, then Mr. Anderson, then Casey and then Tom. I need a list. Someone want
to make a list. I think we can handle three, four names. I think I'm not, I'm not a hundred percent,
but I think I might get at least two of them. Right. I think I might be. Yeah. Yeah. I love
danger Anderson. I think I'm still hung over from last night, to be honest.
That sounds like a love child.
I'm not.
I'm not.
That's right.
Mr. A in the house.
What's up, brother?
Love y'all.
How's it going, buddy?
Yo, I'll just say one thing.
The deep state, the cabal, they divided people so brilliantly that you can't really just like throw
your hat into the, the, all these fights right now. They divided everybody. The only, the only
thing you could do is really work on yourself. So per this simulation now becomes a personal
development simulation where you got to get yourself to higher ground. And once you get
yourself to higher ground, then you can help people. You could save the world. But you can't fight what's going on right now. You have just as many pro-Trump,
just as many anti-Trump, just as many pro-Zions as you do anti-Zionists. Then you got the
religions. Then you got everybody divided every which way. And these phones make us believe we're
connected way more than we are. You know that, right? Like these phones, us believe we're connected way more than we are.
You know that, right?
Like these phones, we're not connected like that.
Although we feel this anxiety that we're connected, we're really not as connected as these phones would be.
So you put your phone down and shut it off.
You're now in your own little world where you could create.
And there's not a lot of pressure.
There are no barbarians at the gate.
But I'll land there.
Mr. Ray, what's up?
Yeah. Yeah, man, that's great. I mean, everything you're saying there makes a lot of pressure. There are no barbarians at the gate, but I'll land there. Mr. Ray, what's up? Yeah, man, that's great.
I mean, everything you're saying there makes a ton of sense to me.
You guys were talking about agency.
That's why I requested a mic.
It's like, man, our attention is our agency right now.
Like they're trying to get it in every different way.
I was talking, I'm going to give a shout out to Rachel down there.
I'm talking with her at one point about some of the ads and stuff we're seeing out there.
And like some of the, you know, some of of the things they're putting in front of our face
when we're just watching regular entertainment now.
Everybody's playing a different game.
Everybody's getting their attention captured by a different thing,
like online casinos, things like that.
And really, at the end of the day,
your agency lies in choosing which game you play,
which part of the simulation are you going to be a part of,
and what are you going to pay attention to?
What are you going to put your time and your effort into?
If you're a person that was a latchkey kid, grew up feeling lonely, things like that,
you got a fear of abandonment, maybe you play the simulation of going down the app Live and
or something to help yourself deal with those feelings better. Maybe you go do something
different. Maybe you're into e-commerce and you go down the simulation of making yourself a well-versed e-commerce specialist.
Businesses online.
The point is, if you don't take your attention and point it in a certain direction that's going to be beneficial to you in this world,
you can easily get caught up in the abyss and in the void like everybody does.
But if you do, build your own systems, as AJ always says.
They're out there, guys. It's all around you.
Go to your local butcher. Buy from your local farmer's market. Stop buying the trash you're
throwing on the shelves at the grocery store. That's one way to change your internal climate
is change the way that you're feeding your body and what you're giving yourself and go back to
nature a little bit. I would just recommend that everybody take a look at their attention and where
they're putting it and start putting into things that pay dividends rather than things that cause a deficit.
And I'll land it there.
Appreciate the mic and the opportunity.
Oh my God, that was a total mic drop.
Everything you said, you should have heard me.
I should have unmuted.
I was like, yeah, oh my God, like just screaming.
I love every single thing that just came out of your mouth, especially the like what you
put in your body.
That's huge, guys. It it's huge if you're feeding
yourself shit you're gonna feel like shit your mental state is gonna be like shit and they they
try and make it i feel like it's this like yeah but it's too expensive to eat healthy and yeah
nobody can afford to eat healthy i can promise you that you can it is literally just like uh
i don't know i don't want to call it a
sigh up to you know what i mean we're calling everything a sigh up these days but like somewhere
along the line someone convinced you that you can't feed yourself good food and healthy food
because it's too expensive and i can promise you it's not too expensive like you can figure it out
there are ways there are absolute ways you don't have to eat like trash. So yeah.
Stay to the outsides of the grocery store, like stay out of the inside aisles and stay to the
outside where all the fresh stuff's at. I mean, it might seem more expensive, but at the end of
the day, you won't be paying the doctor bills afterwards. Yeah, exactly. And you also start
to realize like the stuff that you were, the stuff that you were eating that like was just
unnecessary. I, ever since I, that was something I really worked on last year
was eating more whole foods. And I recently started ordering, um, we have this, um, I guess
like a meat delivery. We've got a bunch of them, but like there's meat delivery systems where you
can order from local, um, farms instead of buying your meat at the grocery store. So I did that.
And it's, it's actually way more cost effective.
Like I'm actually saving money by doing it.
But someone convinced me a long time ago
that I couldn't do that.
It's way too expensive.
So I just kind of chalked it up to like,
yeah, I can't eat local.
It's way too expensive to do that.
There's no farms near me.
They'll literally deliver the food to your door
in like three days.
And it saves you a shit ton of money.
And you're also doing something really good
because you're supporting a real like local family like a farm you're you're supporting those people
so then you feel good eating your food and i'm i'm not kidding it's changed everything like my
perspective on eating and just like what i consume has completely changed. Um, and I feel a lot better. So I would
try that. You're actually contributing less to global emissions by doing that too. Cause your
food isn't arriving on a tanker and then a semi and then getting flown. You know what I mean?
Like it's one truck from farm to house. Yeah. Game over. Right. So exactly. How is that not more
green? Absolutely. And then something else you said, Mr. Anderson was, um, what, uh, I didn't want to miss
this. Um, yeah. So the attention, like attention is the biggest commodity right now. Like everybody's
fighting for your attention and, um, kind of back to what we were talking about with AI.
I don't know if you guys heard, but now it sounds like chat GPT and all the big AI
companies are going to be including ads. Like when you type in a question, you're now going to get
a targeted ad based on the data points that they have on you. And I was like, huh, that like,
I remember specifically at the beginning of all this, them saying that they would never do that.
I remember them saying that they were so against doing ads in their platforms.
And now all of a sudden that's shifted.
So it's like, okay, I don't know how I feel about that because, like, the social media apps have probably like comparative to AI.
Think about the data points that the AI has on you.
Like think about that.
It is much more in depth.
It's going to be so specifically targeted to you as an individual.
And some people might be like, oh, that's cool.
I'm going to get ads that really relate to me and who I am in my life and stuff like that. But at the same time, then there's like this, um, this question of like, okay,
but what are they going to show you and why, you know, like what actually is the motive there?
Because I remember them saying that that would be a bad thing. We should not use ads in our
platforms because that would cause this, this, this, this, this.
I remember them talking about this.
So I would love to love to get your take on that too.
And I digress.
So if you want to respond, Mr. Anderson, you can.
And then we'll go to Danger Dev.
I think back on Google Analytics and things like that, back when I first got involved with like search engine marketing and like SEO.
with like search engine marketing and like SEO.
And I got to tell you, back then they supplied even small business owners
with a ton of data and information that you could use to, you know,
kind of track the demographic of your customer, whether it be, you know,
their age, their location, things like that.
Well, I can tell you in recent years, they have walked that back dramatically.
They got all the data they needed now.
So now they're going to make it much more easy,
much more difficult for the regular person to access. I was able to nail down and target women between a certain age,
you know, that, that were single, that had a child, things like that, you know, based on,
you know, based on, pardon me, statistics of who was buying a certain product at a certain time.
And, you know, who was most likely to make that purchase. Now that stuff has kind of gone away, but I guarantee it hasn't gone away for the larger corporations. So you're right, Melo.
They're going to use these delivery systems to pound those messages home and capture our
attention. It's just going to get less, it's going to be less possible for the small guy to get their
message in front of people effectively now is I think what's going to happen. So it is dangerous.
They can manipulate our thoughts and our buying patterns. It's pretty much the way of marketing right now.
And it's kind of frightening.
Yeah, and then not to mention, like, what about the AI itself?
And because there was a study done, forget how long ago,
but they found that the AI started to make decisions on its own.
For example, there was a company that said,
okay, we're gonna fire you,
we're not gonna use you anymore.
Like they literally communicated to the AI
that we're gonna take you out of our system
and not use you anymore.
And the AI had everybody's email,
all the workers' emails,
and had all the data points on them
and started to like use blackmail.
Like it started blackmailing to individual employees because the AI knew that they were having an affair.
So that's like a sentient.
That's terrifying.
That's crazy.
It's terrifying.
Yeah, I mean, that's something.
So it was actually like it was almost like now think about like the management systems and like sci-fi movies,
like Mother on those on those spaceships and things like that that would like have full control.
Like imagine like something like that that had full control over our government, the IRS, things like that and how dangerous that could be.
Right. So, yeah, that's that's frightening.
The AI implementing it, taking away the human element of having to analyze that stuff is actually a lot more terrifying if you think of it that way.
analyze that stuff is actually a lot more terrifying if you think of it that way.
Yeah, so to kind of like bring it back to the, sorry, I think someone chimed in there,
but really quickly to bring it back to the topic of the room, what I took from what you said,
Mr. Anderson, is that to change your internal climate of around all of this, what we're
talking about here, it's, I guess, monitoring your own attention and where you're spending that attention.
Is that what I can take from what you said? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it's putting it into
the places that pay dividends for you instead of creating a deficit in your life. Exactly. Like
making sure that you're spending your time on things that are valuable rather than just spinning
your wheels. Yeah. It's like I always used to say, somebody's always trying to ice skate uphill.
Love it.
Love that.
So guys, let's pay attention to where we're paying attention.
And like, reshare the space if you can.
If everybody can do it once, you can undo it later.
I want to say hi to Rachel up here.
And after Devin, my man Tom's.
Tom is running some of the biggest spaces out there with some of the biggest people.
Doing a great job.
Timmy G's down there. Timmy G mormon killer oh my god rachel's here yes thanks for coming hi guys hi rachel hi
we're talking about changing our internal climate i know that's hard for me well my thought on this
on the subject is how do you how do you warm up your body you move and that's that's what you need
to do is just keep moving and and well i think napoleon dynamite said it best fix only like guys
with skills oh hunting skills nunchuck skills computer hacking skills we got to improve
our skills you know are we quoting are we quoting the folian though yeah like yes we need to improve
our skills well no seriously because you know you want to make a million dollars a year well
do you have million dollar a year skills you're going to need those and you're going to need those
to manage it properly and maintain it and not just be like oh i've arrived you know you gotta
it's it's a constant march of improvement is what we what you need to do and i'm like of course
i'm not saying oh yeah every day i do one more push-up than i did the day before or some crap
like that but because that's impossible uh eventually you're gonna hit a wall
right so but that's to me that's how you change your internal climate and you make things to get
things hotter you got to get them moving and you got to have irons in the fire and you you just
got to have you got to have more than one thing going on and like just tying it back to what
mella said about like just making that one change to eat healthier, you know, decide that, hey, I'm going to change this one thing.
And that little bit of change, it always cascades into other areas of your life.
Because now, like Mela said, now you're not eating crap food.
You're feeling better.
You're awake.
You're more cognitive.
You can think clearer.
Right.
And that just that one little change, there's so it
spiders into so many other levels of your life. That and that goes for like, just, you know,
starting and doing like a little bit just a light exercise in the morning, you don't have to go
crazy or buy a gym membership or anything, do a couple push ups, do a couple sit ups,
stretch yourself out before the day starts. Like just those little things that ready your body for what's ahead because i don't know how many times on job sites like i haven't pulled a muscle or got a cramp or
anything because i stretch every morning it's not even that hard right just get up and stretch
and guys on the job site they're carrying the same load that i am and all said oh my leg
oh i got a cramp this is not the other i'm like well did you drink water no didn't stretch this one no you work a labor job bro you know you gotta have all those little preparations
in place before you make your moves though so yeah that's how i think we gained our internal
love that i think uh so there's this debate i've watching. I watch these videos all the time. I listen to podcasts and there's this debate kind of going on amongst the people that talk on this topic of like, how do you actually achieve things? And does it start? How do I achieve new habits? First of all, habits are, you know, they're so vast. They look so different to everybody. Everybody's habits are very personal to them. But we all have that in common. We all have our own habits. And that, I think that's kind of why the topic is so interesting to talk about.
And we like to talk about it because it's like, okay, but these are mine. What are yours? Like,
what does your life look like? How do you do that? Right. And there's this debate going on,
like, does, do your habits change when your state of mind changes or do you have to start first?
Like, do you just implement something small and then just start stacking little things
until your habits develop?
And it sounds like, Danger Devin, you probably, you sound like the type of person that's like,
you just got to go start something.
Like you got to go, you got to get up and do that stretch in the morning.
And then the rest of your day will probably be lined up a lot better because you did that
one thing.
And then, oh, that leads to, oh, you know what?
I feel really good now.
I'm going to, I'm going to drink a tea and I'm going to, you know, enjoy my morning.
And I'm not going to have a stressful morning because I woke up and I stretched.
And then your, your day just looks a lot better.
Am I right there?
Well, you start your day with intention that way. And it's a way of claiming the day, right? I'm going to do this
first thing. And cause I can, I can make this little choice to do this right now. Whereas if
I'm working for somebody or, uh, you know, I've got to obey the laws of the road. I can't drive
the way I want to drive, right? I'm not in control of that really. If I could drive the way I wanted
to drive, I'd be there in five minutes instead of 12, you know, but I can't control that.
What I can control is what I decide to do as soon as I get up. And that's literally Carpe Diem,
right? Seize the day. It's the agency. We were talking about it. We have agency. We don't have
to be a victim to all of these things. There are little things that we can control about our days and our lives
and set ourselves up for a better day.
You know, even if it's just that one day that goes better,
at least you can check that off and say,
cool, I had a good day today.
So I love that.
Thank you so much.
At the end of the day, you can say it worked.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then, you know, like someone like Tony Robbins I watched uh I like watching um
the mind of a CEO I think that's what that podcast is called I put it on in the background while I'm
working on stuff and um Tony Robbins was talking about you know his perspective and he says
that a lot of people start with the strategy and he thinks that we're starting backwards
like we we can't start with the strategy we have to start with the strategy and he thinks that we're starting backwards.
Like we can't start with the strategy. We have to start with the state. We are all in a very specific state. You know, if you are, your nervous system is really what he's talking about. If your
nervous system is in a state of fear, shock, anxiety, you know, if you're in a negative state,
then it's going to be so much harder for
you to actually implement the strategy that you've come up with. Maybe you're like, I'm going to go
to the gym every day for the next year. And by this time next year, I'm going to look like this
and I'm going to fit into this size, whatever. We'll just use that example because it's easy.
But if your state of mind doesn't match that lifestyle, you're probably not
going to succeed.
You're probably going to fall off and it's not going to work because you aren't in the
state.
You don't have like the, you're not optimized for that yet.
Right?
So he says that you got to start with your state first and then the you know the strategy comes after
that and that's why I really wanted I was listening to that I was why I've read the book Atomic Habits
and he has a different perspective he thinks it's you know similar to what you were saying
Danger Devin and you like stack these small habits and just start just give it a go and start
something start small and then stack from there and that's why I wanted to talk about this, because the internal climate that we have, I think really dictates, you know, what our choices,
our decisions, every minute of your day is a decision, you're choosing to spend your time,
however you're choosing to spend your time. But I think that those choices are, this is just my
personal opinion, I think that those choices are dependent on your state.
Like, where are you at internally? So love that. I think I agree with you to an extent. Like,
I think that a lot of the things that I got good at and the things that I've improved on were just because I kind of buckled down and just said, I'm going to do this. I'm going to just stop
thinking about it. You can't think your way out of a bad position. Like you can, the only, you can think about it
all you want. You can ruminate and ruminate and ruminate on the same thing. Like, oh fuck,
I wish this would change. But you wishing something would change has never gotten anybody
out of any situations. You can't just wish your way out of stuff. You have to actually like
take action. Um, but that action, in my opinion, the first action is actually like
changing that. It's actually an action to change your state to like actively decide, for example,
um, if, Oh, what, what, what do I want to use here? Okay, I'll use myself as an example.
Historically, I used to say I don't really play piano because I'm not as good at it as guitar. So
I write all of my songs on the guitar. That's what I used to say. I'm not really a pianist. I'm not really a pianist. But then I had to, I had no choice but to sit down at the piano and kind of resume it
because I, you know, I started teaching and I was like, well, if I'm going to teach piano,
because I know how to play it, but it's like, I'm not like the best at it. So I was like, okay,
well, I have no choice now. I have to sit down at the piano every single night and practice
because it would be a disservice to my students if I didn't, right?
So I kind of just like pushed myself to do that.
And I sat down and I surprised myself.
And I was like, damn, I didn't know I could play like this.
It's been like 12 years since I sat at a piano and played the piano.
Didn't know I could do this, but it's still
there. So, um, yeah, I kind of like, it was kind of what you were saying danger. I just put myself
in the position of like, this is what I do now. But that was like a, it was like a state of mind
that changed in me. I started saying, instead of me being like, I don't play piano. I'm like,
I teach piano. Oh my God. Like I teach piano. So my state of mind kind of forced me into it. And that's the example of use there.
Teaching is the best way to learn. That's the number one way to learn teaching.
To a child, you're Liberace. You know what I mean? When you're teaching them,
you're Liberace. You could play all wrong and they'll still love you for teaching them.
Let's just put it that way. You think you're you're expanding brains and hearts
there so you're doing a great and tom you're up next yeah it's it's uh very true what you said aj
like teaching is the best way to learn as soon as i started teaching i started to get better so
i like it the onus is on you to know what you're teaching that's why when you're just learning
something you're like yeah i know that but yeah, I know that, but you have
to know it.
Yeah.
And you have to know it intimately if you're going to teach properly.
So, yep.
And Mella said something interesting right before we go to Tom, she said something big.
Basically you could pray all you want, but definitely take the action.
And a Russian proverb is pray to God, but row to shore, which is interesting.
Tom, what's going on, man?
Welcome.
Glad to see you, man.
What's going on?
Loving the conversation.
And man, very interesting topic.
So one of the things that I think is amazing about the current moment really has to do
with the paradigm pertaining to this, to the fact that the vast majority of people that are over 55 now are realizing, as they very rightly said, that basically, I look at it.
The closer you are to the celebrity world, politics, or any really heavily gatekept industry or profession at a high level.
I'll make this comparison.
The more I see it this way.
You're rugging a little, Tom.
Your signal's going in and out. Definitely rugging a little Tom, you're a,
your signals going in and out.
Definitely rugging pretty bad on my end too.
Reset.
Yeah. I don't doubt it.
Yeah.
You might need to drop down.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That sounds good.
Let's,
let's see,
let's keep going.
I heard what you were getting at though.
You're,
you're saying the closer you are to these high level,
you know,
politic like politics or celebrities or whatever. Um, and then that's where we lost you.
Okay, cool. Thank you. Yeah, I apologize for that. Hopefully it doesn't happen again.
So, yeah, the impression I have is that the closer you are to these A-list celebrity worlds or politics or to any really heavily, heavily gatekept industry or profession at a high enough level,
gate-kept industry or profession at a high enough level, I see it as kind of being analogous or
similar to what I envision it's like for people that might have been members of the Medellin
cartel, for example. And the reason I say that is because, you know, just to provide an example,
you're now kind of a prisoner to protocol in a sense when you make it to a high enough level
in these different industries because there are certain expectations of people
in certain positions that i can only assume make a person sort of a prisoner to the behavior that's expected of you once you get to these high level positions and really heavily gate kept industries
especially when you're using the established model that was used before to make it to those
positions so things are changing right now i mean mean, I see, as AJ was saying earlier, a tremendous opportunity right now for people to make it to places that they
wouldn't have been able to make it to without the approval of gatekeepers before by using all these
tools that we have at our disposal, whether it's AI, all these video generation apps that are
amazing. I think you can, I mean, I'm a little bit against the whole, you know, cheating and
creating music with AI, but I don't know, man, there's some potential for it in terms of instrumentals and things like that. So I think it's an amazing time to be someone who's interested in, you know, I'm not even sure I'm ever going to stop being an anonymous account user, but I love the fact that I've been able to, I apologize guys, I've been able to kind of develop a network here.
I've been able to kind of develop a network here.
I've been able to identify some of the most talented people I've ever met in my life.
I've met on this platform.
I never used Twitter until Elon Musk purchased it and kind of got rid of some of the censorship
stigma.
And, you know, I was just browsing the news.
And over time, I realized, holy cow, man, this is an opportunity to kind of develop
a network.
There's some really talented people up here.
And I've identified some amazing talent here.
And I try to explain to them, guys, you know, we might as well start thinking about creating our own media at this point.
Because, good Lord, I mean, authenticity is something that people are interested in.
And one thing that these people that have made it to very high places aren't able to, I mean, some of them can be authentic.
But again, they're limited in what they can do.
And that comes across to people that are seeking, you are seeking authenticity as inauthentic, obviously.
So it's an incredible moment.
It's an incredible opportunity, I think, for people to look at things from that perspective.
The only thing that worries me a lot is that I see this as also kind of a race on the clock because I don't know what's going to happen with the U.S. dollar.
There's some really unusual things going on.
And I mean, are we going
to make it to the point of- What do you think about that real fast, Dom? What do you think
about that? Yeah, go ahead, brother. I was going to say, what do you think about that,
the collapse of the dollar right now in real time? Well, it's really concerning. It looks
like a collapse, but I hear experts that know way more about this issue than I do saying that it's going
to be a slow burn, that it's going to be a controlled demolition of the... I don't have a
clue, brother. But I do feel like it's a race against the clock, in my case, at least, because
I want to be able to develop this network and get some traction with some of the goals that I had
before I have to figure out how to navigate some new currency or how to... Good Lord. I mean,
they're always complicating life as much as possible. You know what I mean, brother?
But yeah, I appreciate it.
Tom, man, I appreciate it.
I'm going to go to Timmy G because he's in finance.
He'll give us a little breakdown
of what's going on.
He was a hedge fund guy.
Yeah, it's great to have, you know,
Timmy G in the house.
But Tom, thank you for that, man.
Yeah, I see the world the same way you do, man.
Timmy G, what's going down? What's up, AJ? And remember, I'm an equal opportunity crusher now.
That means Jesuits, Swiss, the Swedish, the Mormons, the Zionists, all of it.
You're killing everyone out there. That's funny.
went out that's funny oh and this oh good he didn't say canadians
Oh, and the...
Oh, good. He didn't say Canadians.
hey yeah it's not part of my process yet so yeah we'll hold off yeah yeah no hosers yet um
so i was a part of the great grift we'll call it in the hedge funds i was mortgage-backed securities. So we structured paper and sold off risk.
And I feel like that's the next grift is crypto.
And changed my mind.
But I'm seeing crypto get sold by all the ideologies.
Hardcore.
It's funny.
I'm just going to call it out.
Both sides of the coin, the Zionist and the JQ, both are selling crypto left and right.
That tells me it's sponsored. But precious metals have been around forever.
There's a need for them. It's functional. Yeah, you're not going to be able to carry 300 pounds of gold across the border.
Guess what? If you're not looking to be a globalist, who gives a shit about bringing something across the border?
not looking to be a globalist who gives a shit about bringing something across the border.
I'm worried about America and I'm not giving up on America and all the people that are
talking about a brand new central bank just controlled by autistic transhumanists that
want to put brain chips in us as like the crypto.
And go back to basics.
If you're going to invest, invest in something that you know, something that's your bread and butter, your business.
If you're in the trades, invest in something that supports the trades you're in.
If you don't understand it, that's okay.
Pass on it.
All this crap that's going on in currency, precious metals have been around forever.
in currency, precious metals have been around forever. The only thing you need to be worried
about is use Grok, use ChatGPT, and ask about what are you actually investing in? Are you investing
in silver or are you investing in derivative contracts of silver or some other sort of BS?
And take profits. Take profits off here and there. Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered.
Take profits off here and there.
Pigs get fat.
Hogs get slaughtered.
It's going to be volatile.
But yeah, just stick to basics.
That's basically all it is.
There's a bunch of sexy, sophisticated instruments out there.
But if you learn about sophistication, it's actually meant to be overly complex for deceptive, nefarious reasons.
It's not because they're smarter and more intelligent than
you. So yeah, that's, that's all I got to say about that. Well, Timmy, I had, you know, debates
even with Gary Cardone and those Bitcoin guys, their argument is that Bitcoin is the new gold.
However, fucking gold and silver is the old gold and silver for thousands of years of history.
So I've always been like,
if I don't understand it, you're number one investors out there. If they don't understand it,
you stay away from it. And you're talking about internal climate. What better way to like boost
your internal climate than to just invest the right way? And the best way to invest is the
most simplest way, perhaps by the S&P 500 ETF. It's a very low cost ETF.
And you could dollar cost average. If the market gets its ass kicked, you're not sad. You're
fucking celebrating because you know that this money is completely fake. The system is completely
fake and they're going to gradually beat the shit out of us. But these things are also going to
gradually rise as time goes on. And that's the game out there. So there is a game. There is a way to play this financial
game. And I do believe- Well, do you know their grift too, AJ? So their grift is they won't tell
you how much of their personal net worth is tied into Bitcoin. And they're telling everybody to go
into it. They also won't tell people what are their operating businesses. So they have competitors
to MasterCard and Visa. So they require transactions for their holding companies
to be profitable. They're going to make money whether or not Bitcoin goes up or down as long
as you do transactions on it. So they've got a lot of derivative businesses off of that.
I saw a cool investment strategy to invest in space.
And the way that the group went to invest in space was to buy up office space in Orlando,
in Alabama.
Just office space, because they knew that there'd be a bunch of companies that come
and go and rent basic real estate.
And if you see what the Cardones have the most of their money in, it's real estate.
So I'm sorry. I think it's a grift. It's something where they need to go. They'll get a big return
on a small allocation of their own total net worth. That's the thing that you need to find
out from people that are spewing this stuff. How much of their net worth is tied up in it?
Is it only just going to hurt them a little bit or is it going to change their lifestyle? It's not going to change their lifestyle. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Everybody,
as far as the Bitcoin is concerned, I mean, there is opportunity, but again,
keep it simple right now, everybody. That's my recommendation. Keep it as simple as possible.
Don't get pulled into buying anything online off anybody, in my opinion. Don't get,
don't get pulled into trading with anyone. I know the best traders in the world. They have a very
tough time profiting and making money. Trading is no joke. I've traded my whole life. I've got
my ass kicked my whole entire life. The only trades that ever really worked out for me are
the ones I even forgot about or the ones where I just didn't trade.
I just bought.
It's actually unbelievable.
It's mathematically, listen, over a long period of time, you cannot beat certain simple investments.
But we'll talk about that another time.
What's up?
Well, fundamentals went out the window too, AJ.
Like fundamentals used to make sense.
David Einhorn started liquidating his fund because it doesn't
matter about revenues. It matters about hype. Facebook, Uber, all of those were worth a ton
of money, but not netting any profits. How does that work? It doesn't make sense to me anymore.
Yeah. Don't get pulled into the hype. Mr. Ray, you got something?
Well, no. I mean, you look at the same thing. There was that medical uh, that medical company that that woman committed fraud. She got all those investors and things like
that. It's the same thing. I mean, you see a lot of companies that are built up on the idea
that something's going to be profitable and it never comes to pass. Are you talking to Elizabeth
Holmes? Yes, sir. That's the one. Thank you for the name. I could not remember that for the,
off the top of my head, but man, she knew how to work that voice. Didn't she? Um, yeah, she, uh,
she, she kind of reminded me of a, I don't really know.
But no, the point I was making with that was they put all these companies up.
It's almost like a shell company, and people just dump investor dollars into it.
And they don't really ever think it's going to turn a profit.
They overstaff them, things like that.
That's why when Elon came in, he just took out like 70% of the staff at Twitter
because there was really no point to having them there. There were pointless positions that weren't
really doing anything and weren't really serving any true purpose at the company. It was almost
political. They were increasing an ESG score or something. So yeah, I agree with you, AJ.
I tried to mess around with trading a little bit back in 21, and I got the shit kicked out of me.
And since then, I've just let the guy that I pay to do it, do it for me. And I don't even mess around. Like, I don't know what a safe
investment is. So I let somebody who does take care of it, brother. I'm with you.
Oh yeah. And, um, Mello, we're going to go back to you with this, but, uh, Mr. Anderson, um,
what I was going to say to you is, uh, well, Elizabeth Holmes, she had these connections
to Kissinger and all these people. It makes me think
somebody like Elizabeth Holmes was a mind control person that they put there. And just like, look
at him. What's his name from Facebook? Mark, what's his name? Mark, uh, him. These guys are
mind control victims in my opinion. They're fucking weird. They're out of their minds.
It seems like they're mind control. Elizabeth Holmes had connections to all these
big people, Soros, Kissinger. I wonder if they put these people in there to do that, to just rob.
But Miller B, what's up? You'd think, I mean, wouldn't it be a really easy way to do it real
quick. It'd be a really easy way to do it. And Zuckerberg, you want to see a makeover,
go back and look at what's happened to him in the past four years. Now, Dana White sits on the board
at Meta. I mean, these people couldn't stand each other before Trump got elected. elected so there's some there's a lot of shifting going on in the sands and stuff like
that but yeah i'm with you elizabeth holmes she used to change her voice depending on who she was
talking to she'd lower it or she'd raise it like she was the woman was a sociopath it was wild if
you ever watch the actual documentary on her so transition it back sorry about that sorry about
that melo b we had to go a little dark pill oh don't worry I love this I love this I
yeah I mean like I have a bit of a different perspective and I'm definitely not an expert
in this regard at all I've had some success in both you know like I I do hold some crypto
um I've had some success in the crypto uh so it's hard for me to not keep some some liquidity there
because it's like yeah i've i've seen this work out for me in the past so it's hard for me not to
um but you know like okay so you know people say it's like bitcoin the new gold and i don't think
that's the case like i think in a sense it's like Bitcoin's like the more volatile version.
And, you know, gold has always been the traditional place that people go.
It's got, you know, so many years of history to look at.
Bitcoin doesn't.
It's still very new.
As much as people like to say, it's like proven itself.
I don't know if that's the case.
I think it's still very new.
But it's basically like people are saying it's the digital version of
gold i don't think that's you know like an adequate way to describe it i think it's just
kind of like a more volatile way of you know like when um when governments print a lot of money
and they there's huge deficits and interest they're keeping interest rates really low and people start worrying about
currency debasement.
That's where it's like,
okay,
capital is going to move out of cash and it's going to move somewhere.
Right.
And it's,
it's going to move into places that people think is like a scarce asset.
And gold has proven itself in that regard.
But now people are,
you know,
really bullish on Bitcoin. So I kind of follow that market in a regard. But now people are, you know, really bullish on Bitcoin.
So I kind of follow that market in a sense, because it's like, you know, gold usually moves
first. But Bitcoin, in my eyes, it tends to follow, but very, you know, in a scarier way.
So would I ever tell somebody, hey, you should not invest in gold and invest in Bitcoin instead,
because you can make so much more money over there. No, I wouldn't say that because first of all, I don't give financial
advice. Second of all, it is definitely the riskier way to go, right? Like the very first thing that
you need to think about when you're investing your money anywhere is what is your risk tolerance?
And if your risk tolerance is low, then don't go to Bitcoin. Don't go to crypto because yes, it is very,
very volatile. You need to act like that money doesn't exist when you put it into crypto.
You need to think I'm putting this here and it might be worth zero tomorrow. And that shouldn't
phase you. It has to be money that you don't, it's not going to hurt you if you lose it. Okay. If you win on it, it's fucking nice.
And you better take profits because the next day, less than 24 hours later, you could be in the negative again.
That's how volatile crypto is.
And I think that's why people get so addicted to trading it.
Because it's like, it's kind of like slot machines in a sense, right?
It's like going to the casino.
So, yeah, I agree with you guys in a sense.
I'm literally agreeing with you, but I also do.
I do hold some Bitcoin.
She's a crypto queen.
You see that?
I know she's a crypto queen.
It's hard not to, guys.
It's very hard for me not to.
If you knew, you'd know.
It's just hard.
Okay, short term, Bitcoin can trade like a risk asset or it can trade like a tech stock and when things are uh like going well
for it everyone's like oh it's a risk asset but then when it's not going well it's like it's a
it's a tech stock now so like you kind of got to think of it that way too um yeah it's it's not going well, it's like, it's a tech stock now. So, like, you kind of got to think of it that way, too.
Yeah, it's just interesting.
Like, banking issues, debt problems, loss of trust in the system.
You always see Bitcoin start behaving a lot more like gold again.
And that's where, as soon as that starts happening, people are like, Bitcoin's new gold.
And then it falls to the bottom.
And everyone's back to, like, I don't know if I trust this tech. It's just so funny to me. So you have
to go in very weary, very skeptical. Am I saying not to? No, I'm not saying not to. I'm just saying
if you're going to put money into crypto, that better be money that you can afford to lose and
never see again. You know what? I always thought Bitcoin was a manipulation tactic for gold and silver.
For example, if there was no Bitcoin, just think where silver and gold could possibly be at.
Like if you're like the government, you would say, you know what? We got to kind of like
manipulate gold and silver, but they're kind of onto us because we're manipulating the paper
markets and we can't do it anymore because they know silver is supposed to be 30,000. They're like, we're going to have to create another asset.
And they're like, oh shit. All right. Create a Bitcoin. And I think that's it. Timmy,
what do you got to say? Yes. And Mela, phenomenal, phenomenal articulation of it.
If you can't afford it going to zero, my regret was not investing in it just to have like
dinner conversation. It was fun to talk about, but I think it's a digital LARP where it's why
it's literally like how they say it's the replacement for fiat currency. I'm like,
well, what was fiat currency the replacement for? Gold, gold. So you're basically selling me on
something going bad with something else. Like you're tricking me on something going bad with something else,
like you're tricking me into it. There is money to be made though. It's going to be volatile,
but I feel like it's catching a falling knife. And I think it's slowly walking us towards digital
currency, like digital control, honestly, through profits. So they're giving us some profits and
wins today to take away our freedoms tomorrow with it. And I think it's too technical for people. You jump off of a boat and you got something in your pocket. How many times have you jumped in a pool or a lake or something like that with your whole self-storage personal wealth all in one spot.
Or it's just too overcomplicated.
You got to go back to the basics.
But it's cool.
It could be an accessible tool.
But past results are not indicative of future returns.
That's for sure.
Yeah, mic drop. That's for sure. That's yeah. Mic drop. It's so
true. Um, and like it's, it's so tough because I think the people that are into Bitcoin scare
people a lot because they're like so maxi about it. Like huge Bitcoin maxis that are like, don't
invest in anything but bitcoin this
is the future and i agree with you i actually think that there's there's pros and cons to
everything right it's never all bad and it's never all good and one of the cons that i agree with you
on is like digitizing this is is scary like there's some level of control that they don't have over us
right now that they can have over us if we are all on these exchanges
and putting our money into, you know, look at what happened to FTX. Like a lot of people
got burned. I know I have friends that lost millions of dollars because of what happened
with FTX. And this is what I lost $70,000 without any crypto investments because of FTS. Yeah. Wow.
Because my banking administrator went out of business.
The where we housed our funds.
Literally, I thought I had zero crypto exposure.
Wow.
Really?
Okay.
Yeah.
So that's a great example.
And that's being into crypto and holding some crypto.
I have said this many, many, many, many, many times.
And I will say it over and over and over again because it is the single most important fact that I have to tell people about crypto.
If you hold your crypto on an exchange, you do not own that crypto.
That is not your crypto.
That crypto can be taken from you in the blink of an eye.
If something happens to that exchange, your money is gone.
I'm sorry.
There's good luck getting it back because you're one of millions of people that are in the same boat as you.
And there's a whole lot of money that's been lost because of that.
So, yes, it is very technical.
And I think it is a very scary thing for people to start diving into.
But self-custody, it's it's complicated it's
definitely complicated um but it's a thing and i think that if you are holding your crypto on
a hardware wallet then that is you know still not 100 safe nothing is 100 safe the the money
that you hold in uh your bank is not 100 safe you. You better have a GIC, girl. Like, nothing is 100% safe.
But if you have a hardware wallet where, you know, it's not on exchange and you're in control
of that hardware wallet in its physical form, that to me is like the safer bet. So I always
encourage people, if you're going to hold a significant amount of crypto a hardware wallet is the way to go anywho i digress i love talking about this stuff because
i'm i don't know i'm not just a musician guys as you can tell i like many i dabble
dabble in a lot i'm gonna say you've probably blown a lot of minds but with everything you
just dropped right there because i don't know much about, but you dropped some stuff I wasn't aware of.
I remember back when Bitcoin first dropped, you said the age of the investment.
What was it, Mel?
Like 2010, 29?
I don't remember exactly what year it was, but it was so...
I don't remember.
I think it was around then.
Let me make all of you guys who invested in Bitcoin feel good about yourself.
make all of you guys who invested in Bitcoin feel good about yourself.
I remember getting the email when they were offering Bitcoin for three cents a piece.
And I chuckled.
But I was in the middle of caring for my dying parents,
so I didn't even have the money to send for that anyway.
But yeah, so you guys did really good.
And yeah, so that's how long I heard about Bitcoin. it was three cents. They're offering it for three cents. It just came out. And that would have probably been, oh man, that would have been about 2012-ish, 11, 12. I can't remember. It took so frigging long to take care of that stuff.
11 12 i can't remember it took so freaking long to take care of that stuff but yeah um there was
something else i wanted to say but i it slipped my mind but yeah i just thought i hope i hope you
guys feel good about that because you're in the game i would have owned the game by now but yeah
you guys are in the game it's not bad to be in if you got in at a good spot that's where you like
it's a good thing if you got in good you're good but right now it's
tough i mean it's down right now i not financial advice but like i was in a lot of altcoins and i
think i it took me years to realize that bitcoin is just consistently going to outperform those altcoins. So I've slowly moved some of those over into Bitcoin.
I still have some bullishness towards Ethereum, but I don't know. It's hard with the way things
are going right now. But on the topic, AJ brought up gold and Bitcoin kind of almost being like competing assets or maybe Bitcoin is a manipulation tactic against precious metals.
And I actually think that they can both rise together because historically that's what they've been doing.
So like in my eyes, I don't even see them as competing assets. Like they're responding to the same macro conditions.
Like I think in that aspect, and I hate to interrupt that,
you're still looking at something that can be stricken by a key.
Yeah.
You can always hold that precious metal in some form or another.
But yeah.
Oh, and as far as the hardware wallet is concerned, I recently seen an ad for one called TanGen.
And it may, it looked pretty interesting.
I think it was a physical wallet and they had a unique system for, you know, keeping it secure and stuff like that.
Tangen, T-A-N-G-E-N, I believe.
So you may want to check that out.
I have no information, but I thought it was cool.
I use Ledger.
I like Ledger.
The other thing I would recommend is, like, hypothetically, I say this because there could be people in the audience that are like,
I'm going to go buy some crypto.
I'm going to get a letter and put it on the crypto.
Please make sure that you store your seed phrase correctly, which
is not on a piece of paper. Like there are actual seed phrase, your seed phrase is like your password,
basically, but it's even more important than a password. Because hypothetically, if your house
burns down and your ledger were to burn with it, your seed phrase, you'll have access to your crypto still.
So you have to keep that seed phrase safe, meaning like in a fireproof form, waterproof form,
right? So like there's these little seed phrase password holders that are metal and they're
fireproof, waterproof. And that's how you got to keep that shit because you got to keep it locked
down and what happens if you lose it if you lose it it's self-custody this is where i don't think
everybody should be involved in crypto it's self-custody there's a whole lot of trust you
got to put on yourself because you're screwed if you lose it you gotta add that into the investment
that alone i'm not i'm not putting all my eggs in that. Yeah, no, don't.
What do you mean?
You never lost a beer sunglasses?
Don't put...
I fucking lose things.
I just lost my AirPods.
I just bought them.
They flew out of my pocket.
I would have no shot with that thing.
You can't treat it like it's a debit card.
You can't treat it like that.
It's not the equivalent of anything.
You have to treat that like it is your most prized possession.
Oh, you mean you have to treat it like gold?
Yeah, store it in multiple places, store it in many different forms.
Your seed phrase is the access to your crypto if anything happens to your ledger, right?
Or if anything happens to your hardware wallet.
This is another reason why I say if you have your crypto on an exchange,
you don't own that crypto
because someone else has access to it, right?
So like they're actually using your crypto
to leverage their own bets.
Like they're doing stuff with your crypto.
So you can't hold on.
Yeah.
Same as a bank.
Yeah, so.
Do you ever see Spaceballs
when he has like access,
he has control over the oxygen of
the whole planet and they're like what's the password and he's like all right i'll give it
to you he's like one they're like one he's like two two his password was one two three four five
the fucking darth vader puts his helmet up he's like it's the password password on my luggage
you know that's fucking funny i'm just saying if your password in crypto was like, what do you want to do?
No, you don't even get to choose your password.
It's a randomized seed phrase of, what is it, 12 different words?
Is it 12?
I think it's 12.
Yeah, it's 12.
Depends on the wallet, right?
Yeah.
So it's randomized.
You've got to make a story out of it.
You've got to take the words and make a story out of it and then come to know that story.
And then you'll know your heart.
Hi, everybody.
Hi, Krista.
Thanks for coming.
Yeah, no, I love it.
I've been listening for a while.
I've been a listener of late.
I have not really spoken in any rooms in quite a while.
So it's good to kind of just jump up on stage.
I think this is a great topic.
And I think I'm so curious.
You've got the silver up there.
You know, that bot is running around right now saying that the minted like value is 173,
but the paper value is 90.
Do we know anything else?
Do you think that bot is telling the truth about silver?
Or did you guys see this?
That there. Oh yeah. We got big problems. Every single asset is rising at the same time.
That only happens during currency collapse, complete depreciation of the currency. So we're
seeing this collapse of this, what's really happening is China, China just sold a half a
trillion of our bonds back to us. Not only that very very soon we have 10 trillion of our debt that's from the COVID irresponsible money. That is due to be
refinanced. The only way they can refinance is really to get these interest rates low.
And the only way, one way to get the interest rates low, you go to a Venezuela and say that
you're going to take over the oil there. You're going to lie about all the oil on the ground.
Then you're going to say you're taking over Greenland. That's the manipulation
of these interest markets. And again, they don't have to do the Venezuela. They don't
have to manipulate this because I think it's all fucking completely fake anyway.
They're just giving us the opportunity. It's all an illusion that we're just all
buying into. Literally, we're buying into it they're guiding us
like i'm not sure about bitcoin guys you know i'm not sure that's not a ponzi scheme sorry i just
but that's just my i i don't know i'm not i'm not you know but i remember when that started i
remember when tim draper was pushing that and um i just something told me like, there's something off about this, and I can't put
my finger on it. And I think you're right, digital is hard to know, you know, like, I mean, if the
if the grid goes down, you know, we don't have money from our banks. So what you know, that's
why silver looks, you know, and different things like that look really attractive.
The problem is, is, you know, I think they're going to come for everybody's silver, you know, if they can.
Like, you know, they're going to come for physical assets.
What do you guys think?
Well, okay, I want to ask this question.
Like, so isn't, I have to push back here a little bit.
I love doing this.
I love this conversation.
So, like, most of our money is digital, right? Like I have a bank account that holds my money for me.
And like we were saying, the bank is doing the same thing.
They're using our money behind the scenes in various ways.
So like if everything is already digital, most people don't have wads of cash in their pocket while they're walking around.
digital most people don't have wads of cash in their pocket while they're walking around
here in canada a few years back uh that our grid did go down and all of our like basically nobody
could make any payments unless they had cash on them and it was a scary time for everybody everyone
was like holy shit what would we do if this was long term it only lasted like 24 hours but we all
realized in that moment we'd be fucking screwed um so i will say that there are
uh in the in the regard of like crypto and like what would happen if the grid goes down there are
um different organizations that have been building um infrastructure for wireless transactions. So meaning you don't need Wi Fi. We have the creator of Twitter,
who just created a messaging system that does not require Wi Fi.
Yeah, it requires Bluetooth, though. Right. And it supposedly it doesn't travel very far,
like you can talk to somebody across the town, but not like across state lines or anything.
Your cell phones into a repeater for the Bluetooth network.
So all your neighbors are connected. You'll, you'll actually literally,
you could run your Bluetooth network throughout your whole neighborhood at
whatever range you're, you'd be able to use.
I posted something regarding the question you started with,
with the silver pricing. I posted it in the purple pill regarding the new valuation of silver and
what it could mean. So you may find that very interesting. Sorry to butt in on that.
Oh, no. Thanks, James. No. And that's a great point. The Bluetooth is nice because if we were
to have a catastrophe, like in your neighborhood,
and the cyber or cyber attack, then you could communicate with each other, like your neighbors,
not anywhere beyond that. But that could be critical for, you know, whatever reason. So I
think it is useful and it doesn't require anything. But you're out. I wonder if like,
if that happens, I really wonder if they would really allow, if they'd eventually allow Nikola Tesla's invention of free energy to come out.
And I wonder if, if our grid went down, I wonder if that would happen.
Because we all know that that was possible.
We'd have to be a lot of leaders, a lot of leaders, like all of them.
Yeah, yeah.
And I think that would happen.
Yeah, I don't, I don't know if that would ever happen.
It's quite a shame, to be honest.
I wonder what the world would look like.
I can understand why they would push back on that.
Can you imagine the world without the need for paying for rent?
That's the biggest commodity, right?
Imagine that.
What would our lives actually look like?
Everything would be so different.
It's honestly hard to conceptualize.
So I can understand why people would fear that when every industry would be so heavily affected.
Hmm. Does this not sound like something that's on the rise right now? Does this not sound like AI?
Isn't AI pretty much the same thing? And it just happens to be controlled by a few elites and
a few elites and hmm something to think about I'm seeing a lot of videos that AI is not as advanced
hmm, something to think about.
as it's claiming to be that it's not doing all the things I mean that I don't know I'm just I'm
getting is anyone getting this feeling like there's a lot on this app that makes us very fearful and
and and pushes narratives that aren't really happening is anyone feeling that because i'm feeling a lot of that i'm just like i i'm like i have to muscle test like every
story i watch now and go is there truth to this and it's it's i don't know so i'm just curious
if anyone's feeling that and wondering what's really up you are acting just as you should be
are acting just as you should be. Yeah, act with discernment. Be a critical thinker.
Question everything. Question everything. Even if it's like, you know, the most common
understanding, it's like you still have to question it. And I think that it might not be as advanced as everyone thinks it is, but I think it is having a very quick impact on a lot of industries and a lot of people are losing work.
And I think that's why people are so fearful of it.
The tech industry is, you know, obviously the forefront of it, but it's going to take a toll on pretty much every
single industry slowly and at least from my understanding the prediction is like i think
it's 2029 is when they say that agi is going to artificial general intelligence is going to have
you know full capabilities to do what it does.
Meaning that like humans won't really, they won't need us to be involved in the execution of different AI tasks. There's going to be a lot though it won't be able to do. And I just think
that I think these elitists, these rich
jerks, they thrive on throwing energy into our first chakra and just like stomping on us,
putting us in fear. I mean, I feel like they thrive on it. Like they know it. We know it,
but we forget. They know it and use it. And that's what we just, and that's what they keep doing.
So sometimes I kind of just like close everything down and I go out to nature, like you guys
were talking about earlier.
And I just like, do not pay attention to any of this because they just want us in fear
because then we'll make, we'll spend money.
A lot of people spend money when they're in fear for what?
Safety, protection, everything.
And so it just, it's a tumbling effect and it just
keeps going and i kind of just go we got this like as just beautiful energetic high beings that we
forget that we are we've got this like we can heal ourselves we can take care of ourselves. We can do everything. Like, like we were given
everything we need. They have just produced all this other stuff, I think, to keep us,
you know, stuck in our first chakra, literally stuck there where we're feeling fearful. We can't
move. We can't create. We can't do stuff. And I just think that has got to, that's got to stop.
But the only person that can stop it is ourselves, like just each one of us.
I don't know if I'm making sense.
Yes, that's literally what we were talking about at the beginning of the space,
changing our internal climate because there's so much that we can't control a lot of these things,
but we can control what's happening in our heads, right?
We can control what's happening inside of us.
So I think
you're right. And you kind of pointed to something I was learning about recently. Um, what are you
doing? Oh my God. Um, the, has anybody heard of the Monroe Institute? Any, any takers? Yeah. So
Robert Monroe, the founder of the Monroe Institute, um wrote after like decades of out-of-body experiences.
He specializes in that thing.
The CIA was using his institute to perform experiments on out-of-body experiences.
And he talks about what is it it's like the louche theory um that and and guys take
this with a grain of salt please don't don't go call me a kook i'm just repeating things that i
have heard okay so there's the louche theory that basically non-human or whatever you want to call
interdimensional beings feed off of human
emotion and energy and our fear our suffering and our negativity is the most intense negative
it's the most intense emotion we have um in fact like humans don't feel positive emotions as as
intensely as they feel negative ones look at music right? Most songs that exist in the world, they're written
out of sadness or longing or depression or, you know, we, it's so easy to write a sad song because
we feel that emotion so intensely. It's a lot harder to write a happy song because that feeling
is kind of fleeting. So he talks about how, you know, if this theory is true, those intense emotions that are happening
right now, especially with things being like propagated on social media, that's a huge high
energy output. And it's almost like an energy farm. That's how it's described. It's like an
energy farm. So by placing us in these positions of fear and using propaganda to intensify that fear constantly, and also now with us all being constantly connected, we've never been this connected in human history. Things would happen all the time, but news didn't spread as fast as it does now. So it's interesting.
It's a very interesting theory, and it would play into what you're talking about there, for sure.
I have a little woo for you there, Mella, on that note.
You remember the last eclipse we had that crossed the big X over the United States?
The United States, well, according to some of the theories out there, that was the same date that they fired up all the CERN systems around the world.
Alien presence that was on the other side of whatever barrier utilized the loose from the population of the United States and the excitement going on over the eclipse to transfer into our realm.
So there's a little woo with loose and all that other stuff involved involving aliens and the other stuff
so you can actually do a little research on that and you'll see i love it guys i've been watching
anunnaki videos uh it's so much fun it's just fun because i think it removes us from the immediate
reality right like the immediate reality can be very, um, it's a lot. And sometimes
when you, you look at things from a different perspective, even if it is a bit of a loose or
woo woo perspective, it's just removing you. And it's a lot of fun to be removed from the current
reality. So anyways, let's go to AJ. Yeah. I'm going to go right before Timmy, um, right, uh,
Timmy, I'm going to go before you real fast.
And I want to say hi to Art down there.
Hi, Art.
Thank you for coming up.
But what I...
How are you guys?
How are you doing?
How are you doing?
What I'm going to say is this.
I think physical reality is basically the explanation of why God, we'll say, feels the
way it does.
And I do think that our internal state here,
I do think we send those lower dimensions, our energy. I don't think they're energy siphoners.
I do think they're energy transporters. So they transport the feelings we send to them,
and they send those feelings up to God. I do believe that. I want to know why,
because when you have a good inner state of being, that's secret number two in my book.
Circumstances don't matter.
Your state of being is the only thing that matters.
For some reason, when our inner state of being is under control and harmonized, we are giving
gifts by this universe like nothing before.
So I have to believe we send the feelings up to God and God rewards us with good things in
our life. I do believe that with all my heart and the physics could prove it. Timmy G, what's up,
man? What's up? So I love, I love that statement, but I also liked what, uh, Christina and Mel were
going, Melo were going back and forth, uh, about the fear. So people forget fear takes on many shapes and forms, including anger. Anger is
a fear. And this media platform overwhelms us on purpose. It angers us on purpose. There's been
studies where getting in an argument makes the brain behave the same way it does off of a hit of cocaine, off of a pull of
the slot machine, all the dopamine sensors that it pulls off of. And it's geared to overwhelm us too.
And we do got this. We just got to figure out ways to like unite, got to figure out the arguments
that aren't worth having and stupid things like these IQ tests I hear about being discussed.
Why are we discussing racial IQ tests?
What does that benefit?
Secondly, why do the people talking racial IQ tests also blame the same people for fooling
them 108 times in history?
Doesn't sound like IQ matters that much.
But we got to figure out ways to just like simplify it.
Reduce the ridiculous to the
minimum. Having a conversation with your neighbor, talking about things is the mustard seed. And
that's how we get through this. If you don't go to a school board meeting, you're part of the
problem. I don't think I have any kids and I still go to school board meetings because it controls
50% of the property taxes. We could do little by little.
Everybody's focused on dollars
and there's nickels and dimes still in production,
no more pennies, but those add up
and it's little wins.
Little wins add up to big ones
and what the elites want us to do is feel powerless.
They want us to feel overwhelmed.
They want us to eat each other
so that we don't unite and go against them.
We need just about 5% to 10% of the population to wake up and get on the same page.
And we'll stop CERN.
We'll stop data centers stealing and poisoning our water and our farmlands.
And we got this.
Period.
Dude, that was the best.
When you said, I don't think I have kids, but I go to school board meetings. That's the best when you said i don't think i have kids but i go to school
board meetings that's the best thing i've ever heard oh my god anyway someone else jump in
no i wanted to say tim that was awesome i loved it too and you know i definitely think like um
we're in this place where we you know what i just lost my train of thought. I can't believe that.
I'm gonna come back.
I jump in.
Yeah, Krista, Timmy G runs some of the best spaces
out there as far as knowledge.
You get your biggest bang for the buck,
way better than all these other people.
These influencers pushing this Fed slop.
Basically, they push the news that's trending.
If they don't fucking push the news that's trending,
they fall in the rankings, they fall in the algorithm,
they lose followers.
So they're all pushing trending bullshit slop with no solutions
because if there's solutions, you won't need them to influence anymore.
So you go into the people's spaces that know how to navigate this
from a balanced
perspective and non-influences. But go ahead, Krista. No, he was saying, well, what he was
saying is that, and I firmly believe this, is that they want us, I call it infighting,
and they're doing everything possible. And I don't go into a lot of rooms anymore because that's all
that's happening is infighting. And it's just like just like it's the ego i had a neighbor walk up to me tonight and i was like sharing something
with me and he just his ego went into overboard and he was like arguing with me i was just like
i looked at him i go do we really need to do this like i just we're having a friendly conversation
and he just looked at me i go and i literally said to his face i go i've never ever taken you
as arrogant but right now i'm struggling and he just like he looked at me, I go, and I literally said to his face, I go, I've never, ever taken you as arrogant, but right now I'm struggling. And he just like, he looked at me, he was shocked.
Who was it? I'm not going to say, not saying. I love that Krista, because this is the thing
I've noticed. Everyone's in a state of like, I've noticed it's, it's hard to engage in
conversations now. I think it's because everybody's in a state of fear and, um, the
conversation usually ends up in a negative place. You're either complaining about something or
debating about something. When you're complaining, you're connecting, right? So it feels like
connection, but, um, like complaining together, it feels like connection, but what you're, what
you're actually doing is you're just kind of distancing yourself, um, from your, from your
inner peace. And that I think think, is counterintuitive.
Well, I want to say one thing.
The one message I got in the new year, this is the only message from my higher-ups I have heard so far.
And they just said, hold everything loosely.
That's what I kept hearing.
Just hold it loosely.
Don't be right.
Don't be wrong.
Just kind of hang out.
Play.
Dance with people.
You know, see what happens.
And so I was surprised at my reaction with this guy tonight because I wasn't holding it loosely.
I was getting irritated by his arrogance, but I also was like, what was he saying?
What was he saying? Well, he was just, I was trying to explain something that I was kind of
getting involved with and he was just putting it down, putting it down because he's a VC now. He's not even, you know, he's a venture capitalist. And
it's just, I felt like, wow, you just entered. Sorry, can you call them by the correct name?
It's called a douchebag in a Patagonia vest, but please proceed.
That's it. You got it. That's what he's turned into. And I said to him, I said,
we've never had a conversation like this. What to you like you're like a different person and it was like
and that's it it's like the arrogance of being a vc or i don't know what it was weird super weird
money changes people sometimes okay so i think money is powerful in the sense that
it reveals things about people like it's only as powerful as the sense that it reveals things about people.
Like it's only as powerful as the people that have it in their hands. And you'll see someone's true colors when they end up in that position.
Plus the whole VC market, just by the way, the dude, the douchebag.
I dabbled in venture capital.
I dabbled in venture capital.
That's where I lost that 70 grand I mentioned.
That's where I lost that 70 grand I mentioned.
And you basically have a bunch of startups, early stage entrepreneurs begging for money
from you.
And you get this complex where you feel smarter than other people.
You can run businesses.
You give them this cookie cutter explanation.
And it's just Excel spreadsheets of people. And then
there's also a whole bunch of bullshit, like narratives. The Elizabeth Holmes was VC money,
where, you know, everyone's got to change the world. You got to do carbon credits. You got
to have DEI. You've got to have this, this, this, all these box checks. All they are,
are the Knights Templars. They're the leftover kids that weren't able to run the family business.
So they're taking their trust fund because they didn't want to get a real job.
And they're judging people.
So it's an asset class that needs to go away.
It doesn't add value.
I agree.
I think it's really changed.
I mean, in the 20 years I've been in the Bay Area, I'm in the belly of the beast here.
I've seen these guys, and it's a totally different game now.
It's very weird, very strange.
So funny just story.
My first, I worked for a couple of the families behind the Ultimate Fighting Championship
for a little bit.
Not the Fertittas or Dana White, but a couple of the underlings that made a lot of money.
So I got to see some interesting deals.
And my first time going to Palo Alto, my boss goes, watch.
Within two minutes, they're going to tell you who used to be in this office before they rented it.
We went into this office in Palo Alto.
It was nerds sitting on nerds' laps.
It was so small.
Sure enough, Instagram used to be here.
They told us two minutes into being in the door.
I don't really.
Timmy, is this our first time interacting i feel
like it is i wasn't i think so thank you for letting me like my new favorite person on this
album so excited to i you said you host spaces right i do i do i i'm an equal offender so
anyone that blames one party doesn't like me okay cool i'm excited if you have a space coming up that's scheduled please post it up
no way he's cool he's he's from chicago south side yes i'm from evanston oh my god yes chicago
all the way i love it i get told by people from evanston i get the chicago accent because
you're a little classier up there than we are on the south side
timmy did i hear you say correctly that you uh that you're familiar with the the fertita brothers
and uh and the and the former owners of the ufc did i hear you say that correctly the help like
the coo uh chief compliance officer i work for the general council managing their personal wealth
so like i would hear how i learned like it's a data. It's not a fighting company.
And why they moved the fighters to Vegas.
Because guys like Conor McGregor would get in a fist fight in a bar.
And then their visa might not be valid for the $100 million fight that they had scheduled.
So they started moving them to Vegas for those reasons.
That's cool, man.
I really followed that.
I followed that industry pretty closely.
That's why that interested me.
I just wanted to jump in.
Thanks, guys.
Hey, Tim and Chris.
Quick question about Chicago.
Are you guys familiar with a former football player named Oliver Gibson from the Bears, Chicago?
If they weren't on the 85 Bears, it doesn't really matter to me and yeah absolutely come on james if
you're not on the 85 bears you can't you can't i don't even know who's the fuck's on the bears
right now yeah no way james i gotta throw a penalty i gotta throw a 15-yard penalty on that
alone why what about this guy indiana can have him at this point he was actually he was a former
lineman defensive lineman or something like that but dude dude, I, he flew me up to Chicago to set up his home studio.
The guy was a fucking master at fucking pulling things off of vinyl and
putting it together.
Fucking incredible.
I just was wondering, sorry about that.
No, no, I love you, brother.
I know we got to go to Art and my girl bridget oh my god what's going on
i can't with me i know oh what's going on what's up art not much i'm really enjoying the conversation
um i really was laughing about the whole um the guy that mentioned the thing about the
pta meetings and school board meetings and stuff like
that and with not having children and stuff but the local stuff is so important and when you feel
powerless taking the smallest action really really does help to regain it like you have to reclaim it
like don't consent and just take it back and then it like builds you know what I mean and
I don't know this conversation is just really cool I really I'm enjoying it very much thank
you I'm glad you're enjoying it because I feel like this conversation is a reflection of my the
inner workings of how my brain operates which is just like pivoting constantly to a different place.
So I always worry that people are like, what the fuck is happening in this space? But
I'm glad it's been enjoyable. Thanks for coming through.
But you know what? Wait, hold on one second, James. Wait, now go ahead. You go, James.
There's something that I think people missed when Tim said that the school board meetings are where they
decide your property taxes. That's why he said he went there. He says, I don't go because I have
kids. He says, that's where we decide our property taxes. So keep that in mind. That doesn't happen
in your government mayor's office. That happens in your school board district. So keep an eye there
because when they have those meetings, that's where they're going to jack you up on your property taxes. And isn't the school board like one of the most
important places to have a voice because the children are literally our future?
Exactly. The population, they use every excuse they can for the census and the population to
drain every freaking penny you can from your pockets. And it all goes to fraud
as we all know down here
in the United States.
Yeah, whatever.
He also said something very important.
He said he may have children out there.
What about you guys in this room?
Do you all may have children out there?
You don't know.
I don't know.
Have you ever been with a girl
and then like 11 months later you saw her baby and you're like
what the fuck?
Mine are all accounted for.
I'm sure all the ladies would
know if they had kids.
I think I would know. There would be signs.
Guys, maybe not so much.
What about you,
Devin?
By the way, that's what i do on dating apps because
i you know being 43 when i'd be asked like so do you have kids and i just go not that i know of
and just hey you know what you're honest like you never know you never know
oh my goodness let's go to bridget i'm so excited to hear from you. Thanks for coming in. Hey, Mella. Thank you. And
hi, AJ. Hi, fam. I see so much of our fam in the space. I love you guys. Good Lord, it has been a
fun space. Mella, I love the flow of your spaces. I came in, you guys were talking about,
I didn't realize I was incognito when I came in. You guys were talking.
I was trying to raise my hand.
I was like, what is going on?
And then I realized, oh, I'm invisible.
So I hopped in.
But you guys were talking about, I think, Bitcoin.
You and Krista were having some back and forth when I came in.
And then going into the spiritual stuff, you know, that's when I raised my hand.
my hand when I realized oh my gosh why can't I raise my hand let me get up
When I realized, oh, my gosh, why can't I raise my hand?
Let me get up there.
there so I want to I want to circle back to that because you you two were having
some really good banter about what's going on energetically like what they're
doing mentally emotionally and energetically when you back out of the
political firestorm you start to see the patterns, right? So you guys have heard me say,
you know, I think it's a giant psyop that's been going on for decades and decades and decades.
And when I finally backed out, it was around like the, I don't know, like Bernie Sanders time,
when I really was like, I'm done. I'm done with this. And then I scooped back out. And the further
out I am, not saying that I don't do my research when it's time to vote and vote locally.
Did you need me, honey? My husband just opened the door. I'm outside freezing my boobs off right now
to talk to you guys because he was watching TV and he just opened the door and did the,
I'm watching you fingers.
This is our, this is totally our relationship.
Okay, so nice little segue there of some Scott time.
He's so cute. He's so funny.
There's a whole backstory to that that I'm not going to explain right now, but it's really funny.
So when you
start to look at it and you guys know how multi D I am that's where I live my
I live the majority of my life right is blending and anchoring in to this
reality all of the things that are super woo and when you guys were talking about
Mel I think you were talking about how you feel like there's there's lushing going on and things like that 100% it's available but
it depends on where you're where you're resonating within your life right so if
you're buying into all of the the psyops if you're buying into and a lot of that
is coming in through the unconscious I'm unconscious. I'm a hypnosis practitioner, right? So I spend a lot
of time helping people who desire to, you know, sort of rewire those types of things and so many
other things. And it's in there. Like that's, I spend time rewiring myself a lot because that
information is in there. It's in the collective programming that runs through everything and the losing happens with those I
mean there's so many beings that have been created by humanity that most
people haven't awakened to the power of doing this so it happens a lot
unconsciously and has been since probably our inception and on this
planet when we we came to be.
But they feed off of all of that vibration.
And if you look from a higher perspective and you really span out, you'll see that there are, I'll just call them universal consciousnesses
that bring everything back into balance so for me this universe is built
on balance so if it is out of out of balance in one way it's like a it's like a pendulum that'll
swing us back into balance right so i know i'm not explaining this very well because I'm so cold. I'm literally shivering while I'm sitting out here.
But what happens is there's a broader picture of what's going on.
And then there's the micro where we are, right?
We are both the macro and the micro is how I perceive it.
But these beings, and they're not like beings that you would consider like galactic or cosmic or ethereal.
It's more about the interface of the universe. There are whole elements that are connected to
realms and worlds, layers of reality, like we have here on Earth. And they do get fed from that kind
of interaction between us.
And this is why I feel, at least in my perception, and you guys can take it for what it's worth,
only accept what feels right for you, let everything else fall away.
That's kind of what I used to say on the other app all the time every time I would talk.
But there's a big picture and then there's the micro, right?
And between us, like when we're
fighting there are entities that can feed off of that whether whether they're
connected to us or not right and that that is kind of a moot point in the
sense of you can always call your energy back to you whatever has been taken you
can always return it to yourself I think the end thing is pay attention to how we're being influenced by
other humans and the humans that are being influenced by other entities. And then pay
attention to whatever you are holding on to so tight that it's a part of your identity and you've
adopted it into your persona and your safety is now externally validated or invalidated by other people in
other situations, that's a really important key as well. So whenever they're playing people
against each other nonstop, like they do with the red and blue, constantly in politics,
the more you identify with one of the colors or the other, based on principles, right? Most people are connected
via the principle of it, right? It's the principle of it. But the more you identify in one way or
the other, the more it's wrapped up into your identity. When something shifts and the truth
comes out, then you have a crack me open experience where you feel like your reality has now been,
you know, kind of slashed by whatever that
is that creates cognitive dissonance and in those moments that's when the manipulation comes in from
we'll just call them the powers that that don't be and then that's and then they're able to actually
dive in deeper and it's almost like doubling down on whatever the next thing is. And that's how the influence works if you watch it.
And this is a very high view of it.
But that's how I've been watching people just get wrapped up and wrapped up and wrapped up.
And then something will happen that feels very intentional.
And I think everybody is seeing that with what's going on with Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens and all of this other stuff.
seeing that with like what's going on with Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens and all of this other
stuff. That's just one example of like a million that you could choose from where there's an
intentional emotional up, uh, upwelling that they're, they're bringing up. But in that moment
of, of reality breaking in one way or another, then they come in with something else and it's
incessant. It's just an onslaught of one thing after another, after another. And then you have all of the people
that are trying to figure out the truth that are also doing that. And so what it does is it ends
up creating a loop that people can't see their way out of unless they go within. And the only
way I see out of this for most of us is to actually take the time to go within. And that
looks different for different people. You can find a million people helping you with that on the
internet. But unless you can go within and really exercise your discernment and your intuition,
you're always going to be the sailboat on the ocean without a sail.
I love that so much. Thank you for that perspective.
It's, I wish I could have like a moment to be in Bridget's brain. Like I wish I could
see things from, from Bridget's brain sometimes, because I feel like you've experienced things that
I don't know, maybe I do have access to in some way. Maybe I need some hypnosis.
I don't know, maybe I do have access to in some way. Maybe I need some hypnosis.
Maybe that's what I need. But you have a way of making me feel like I do have more
autonomy and I can kind of like be at more peace because everything is, I don't know,
you just put me at peace and you make me feel at ease. So I always appreciate
your perspective. Thank you for coming. I really appreciate you. Thank you, Mella. I love you and
appreciate you. And Bridget, what I'm going to say, Mr. Anderson, didn't we have a space where
we know it wasn't the Jews? It's actually the gingers and the gingers use the
Jews, right? We were talking about that. The gingers really run the world.
Y'all don't be messing with my hubby.
Wait, Mr. A, tell us the statistics on the gingers.
Look, I'm part ginger. I'm part ginger myself. I mean, you're talking Alexander the Great.
You're talking Eric the Red. You're talking all these amazing, like, crazy conquerors over time were gingers.
I mean, I think there's some kind of correlation there.
I think we look back over time, and they're giant people.
You know, I mean, gingers are definitely dominating the world,
and I think we need to put the bullseye directly over them
as being the ones orchestrating everything that's happening
with the New World Order right now.
And I'm game for that, because everybody seems to hate on the poor gingers anyway.
I'm just kidding. I love gingers. They'm the original Aryan though aren't they no not always and
then Nestle is Irish because he has red hair but he's actually Cajun so or half
of his roots are Cajun right so um it's just funny I love I've I have loved
redheaded people since I was a little bitty kid.
I remember the first time I saw this little girl walk across the street and she had curls and
strawberry blonde hair. And I was like, that's my hair. Like some part of me remembered another
life. I'm sure in that moment, but, but it wasn't like mean. It was just like, Oh, I love it,
but I'm supposed to have that hair color and then look at me now I just die as
red as I can get I forget who it was it was funny they said something about us getting taken out by
uh by a strong day of sunshine or something like that which is kind of I mean it's funny like of
all the things like we're gonna get taken out by skin cancer right but it is interesting when you
look back over some of the prominent figures over time, Napoleon Bonaparte too, wasn't a real tall guy, but he was a redhead.
I never would have guessed that at all.
I didn't even know people from France got, had red hair.
It makes a lot more sense now.
A lot more sense.
Right?
You see that?
The gingers are trying to take over.
The Freemason, the G in the middle of the compass.
It's ginger.
We're on to them now.
What's so crazy?
Okay.
Hopefully he, will he get upset if I say this?
No, I don't think he will.
Okay.
I have to be careful because I honor my hubby and what he's comfortable with and not.
And I am comfortable talking about a lot more things publicly than he is.
But when we first got together and I was letting my woo out, right, because I just I'd never hit it.
One of the things he said was, well, you know, I've always been picked on because of my red hair from very young age.
Right. And it kind of made me feel like an alien.
and this is before my starseed awakening so after you know I had my two caught my my two contact
And this is before my starseed awakening.
experiences I ran into him and was like telling him about him each time right and he was like
well you know it doesn't surprise me and it was it all went back to you you know I just kind of
felt like I didn't belong here and like I was some kind of like alien on the planet you know and he's like it doesn't surprise me with everything else that
you're experiencing that you're having this now too and meanwhile I'm like baby can you believe
it it's just one more thing to add to my my seriously long list of woo he's like he's like
yeah it's no big deal anyway I thought that was funny.
We got Sir Eskinor down there in the house.
What's going on, Sir Eskinor?
And Olive down there too.
Olive, how you doing, guys?
And my man Prez.
I want to say what's up.
I've asked Eskinor something he said, hopefully he's listening, in a room. And it sort of grabbed my attention and twisted my brain quite a bit in a good way.
He basically said that in prophecy, and correct me, Escobar, come up and correct me, but in
prophecy that it's in prophecy that if we come, the people come to hate the Jews if you will that it will usher in their Messiah
which would be obviously not the Messiah we're all thinking about at all it
wouldn't be like Yeshua and I thought that's so twisted because, and I just want to know if that's actually
true and where that comes from.
Because, you know, I often, then I see Trump going, I love the Jews.
I love the Jews.
You know, and I go, is he doing the opposite?
Is he trying to get us all to like, not hate them, but like them so that we don't usher
in this dark Messiah that they're all trying to bring in. So it's very, my brain is totally twisted. Escobar, come up and explain.
Look, you think they don't want you guys, everybody to see that they're pushing the
Jews out there. This is a script that's been run all throughout history, pushing the Jews out there
up front, putting them in all the systems. If you wanted to attack a system like
the FDA, if you wanted to attack a system like the Federal Reserve, they have Jews all out there.
You won't have to, not only are you going to be contending with fighting that system, but all of
a sudden you're going to find out that people are brainwashed to defend the Jews because of World
War II and the Holocaust and the brainwashing campaign that went on all
throughout our schools. So they wouldn't care if you try to attack one of the systems, they'll
launch a propaganda campaign that you've never seen before. So the Jews are a shield for people
who run things behind the scenes. Did anyone see the video that's been going around this week about
that neighborhood that's
just all jewish and he walked around and like asked all the men like what do you do all day
and they're like read the bible or you know just like and none of them worked and then he kept
going well how do you guys pay for your bills and they were they would just look and walk away and
like look it was one of the funniest videos and it went on for like 40 minutes.
And he interviewed like half the town.
Did anyone see this video?
Yeah, the Hasids make money through life insurance.
They make money on the welfare.
They all judges.
They take care of each other.
They really work together.
You got to actually look what they're doing and try to emulate them.
I've worked with them my whole life.
And they'll actually, if you're working with them and you're on their game and you're going to benefit them, they're going to really benefit you. They don't give a fuck. Really? Okay. It was an interesting video.
The guys though, just, you know, none of them worked. He's like, oh, my wife works. My wife,
my wife gets the money. I just, I just read. I just hang out with the boys and read all day.
And it just, the way the guy. No, those guys work harder than everybody put together.
Those guys aren't sitting around at all. Those guys are businessmen. That guy showed you a couple
of interviews and he just showed you the parts where the guy's like, I don't work. But these
guys are in all kinds of different business. They are hardworking, many of them. They really are.
Okay. Fair enough. It was funny. It was very funny. I have to say I was cracking up.
Yeah. Mello, where you want to take this, but thank you, fair enough. It was funny. It was very funny. I have to say I was cracking up Yeah, Mella where you want to take this but thank you Krista where you want to take this Mella
Hmm, we've touched on so many great topics. This is this has been a good space
And of course there's been some dark pill stuff
I anticipated that I sent AJ comment on one of his posts. I'm like we're gonna end up talking about some stuff. So I love that. I was just in the background putting something up top. um for my backyard tour this summer so if you would like to host a mella b show for your friends
and your family in your backyard or your living room or wherever you would like to host um
preferably it's a cool spot not like a dungeon or anything i don't really want to be in any like
yeah sorry go ahead do you have a Bay Area one yet, California?
I have one application in, I guess it says LA slash Ventura.
Oh, yeah, that's not, no, North.
Malibu.
You got to come up to California.
And you know what?
Now that you're actually doing it, I'll chat.
I have friends who have beautiful houses.
I'll chat with some friends.
Okay.
Yeah, cool.
I would love that.
And the whole goal here is to just do like some, like an intimate version of a tour,
right? Like picture like tiny desk concert or, um, what's it called?
There's a bunch of cool like videos that I've seen on YouTube where I'm
like, I want to do that, but I want to do it myself. And that's what I'm doing. I just want
it to be like, um, spaces, but in real life. So I'll bring, um, openers. If there's any local
musicians that you guys, you know, are friends with or anything, they can open up the show.
I want to bring other people along and support their journey to some shows maybe if
they're more local and I can or if I know like a drummer and a bassist and
everything out there then I can do a full band show as well I can't guarantee
that my bassist and drummer would travel with me really far but the more local
shows they'll be playing with me as well. So some shows will be acoustic as a duo,
and then some shows might be full band.
So it's gonna be pretty cool.
And so far, I've gotten 10 applications,
so that's 10 possible shows.
But I wanna get as many applications as possible.
So if anybody has any interest in hosting a Melo B show, it would mean the absolute world to me. Yeah. So that's where I wanted to go momentarily,
but this has been an awesome space. How are you guys feeling? Should we have like a music break?
It's up to you guys. I'm down. We'll go to Davey boy first, but again, I want to
say what's up to Escanor down there. Galactica.
Yeah. Let's go to David. David's been here for a while.
David's been listening and,
and just conjuring up a bunch of really good stuff to say.
So I'm excited to hear from you, David. What's up?
We did 9-11.
Thank you, Melody.
Thank you, Melody.
First of all, I just wanted to give a shout out to people I know.
You, of course, Melody.
I hope the year is going really great for you and what you're doing.
Bridget, of course, hello.
And where did Mr. Anderson go?
And Perez, I see you down there long time no see um
goodness gracious i thought you know i came in here i was hearing the bitcoin stuff and you know i was getting interested uh you know the concrete wallet you know i thought that was cool i i had my interpretation of it was a little
different um so uh let's see uh oh man where do i start uh she was anyway in their train of thought
it's unbelievable never fails yeah you know you know, and Mel would be expected me to bring something to, you know, illumination here.
And I'm having a tough time.
I'm just so glad to be in here with some friends and to be sharing the moment.
Here, can I ask you a question? Can I ask you a question?
Of course, of course.
So at the beginning of the space, we were talking about, oh, there's an echo.
If you don't mind meeting your mic for a moment.
Oh, there you go with the boomers.
I know, the boomers, they always do this.
No, I'm kidding.
So at the beginning of the space, we were talking about how there's a lot of external stuff that we can't control.
And some of it is disheartening and puts us in a position of just feeling, you know, helpless or at a loss of words or whatever it is.
It's just negative.
And there's a lot of that lately.
And I kind of wanted to talk about how we can change our inner climate.
I guess maybe like our inner thoughts, our feelings, our emotions, what can we control internally? And then hopefully have an impact externally, because I do believe that a lot of
this requires us for us to turn inward. And I'm wondering if you have anything to say on that? Do
you have any like, any pieces of advice or anything that you might have for us to change our internal climate and
create a sense of peace or put us in a better mental position?
And Eskador, you're next. I want to hear from you.
That is a very great question, Melody. What we have control over and what we do not have control over. And so,
as you point out, the internal mechanisms, the internal systems that we have inside of
ourselves, everything begins and ends with our thinking and our feeling working together.
I mean, so our thinking about things
and about ourselves and who and what we are
and what we're capable of,
this is a really important idea.
And unless, you know, there's an old saying,
without the mind, without the mind, the heart will run amok and burn the world down.
And conversely, without the heart, the brain, the mind can't get anything done.
And so it becomes really important when we talk about internal is what our thinking is about.
Because what our thinking is about is what we're drawing always closer and closer to us.
The thinking is what brings our kind of reality into our lives.
into our lives. And so that internal thing about thinking and the heart being used together is,
it can't be overstated, the importance of that. And then going inside, as it's been suggested
by Bridget, and, you know, getting inside is only a simple matter of seeing what it is you actually think and what you're actually
feeling about things and when those two are combined and working together uh good things
happen to to people they they just happen to people and i'll and i'll and i'll say this also regarding that, Melody, that if we're not doing that, then we're digressing.
If we're not paying attention to what we're thinking and what we're really feeling, if we're not paying attention to those things, then we'll get hit by the thoughts, the random thoughts and the random things that we're thinking that are always moving closer and closer to us.
And so it becomes paramount that we pay attention to what we're thinking and we examine what we are ourselves are thinking
and what we're feeling and we're the idea that we're going to go we're all going to go there
collectively and we're all going to get meet in some far place or some distant in the future
collectively that's not going to happen this is an individual endeavor for each and every single person,
paying attention to what we're thinking and what we're feeling
and using them together to bring closer what we want in our lives.
Melody.
Absolutely.
Thank you, though.
Yeah.
You kind of, you touched on something that Mr. Anderson talked about
when he was up here.
He said he was talking a lot about attention and where we're spending our attention, almost like it's
a form of currency. And a lot of the way that we feel internally has to do with how we're spending
that attention, right? And the attention, and if I may, Melody, we are so easily,
our attention is so easily distracted by things and thus and all kinds of things that it becomes harder when we're distracted to focus and to concentrate on paying attention to what we're thinking and what we're feeling because we can be so easily distracted by all manner of bullshit, garbage,
and what we perceive to be as bad.
So attention can easily be distracted to what is important.
Absolutely.
To what is important.
Yes.
Sorry, I agree with you.
You want to go?
Yeah, I was going to say that goes along with Krista was just saying,
not to jump over you, Melo. I'm sorry. Krista was just saying that she was asking, you know,
like Escanor and you guys, I'll ask you guys, all the distractions out there, they are purposeful.
Every psychological distraction you see, they're throwing at us. Your focus is everything right
now. But before we go to Escanor, what did you want to say, Mello? Well, I think we get addicted
to familiarity. And if our default setting is complaining,
if our default setting is just dysregulation, emotional dysregulation, then we're always
going to return to that. Have you ever met a person where every time you see them,
their first instinct, it seems like they have to find something to complain about with you
rather than connecting with you in a positive way. It's like, what can we, what can we bitch
about together? Right. That I see it all the time. It actually drives me nuts. It drives me nuts
because, um, it's almost like an addiction to, um, that feeling of intensity. I think it's almost
like sometimes we confuse intensity with
productivity. Like we feel like we're having a productive conversation because it's an intense
conversation, but actually what it's doing is just reinforcing those bad habits. And many people are
just unconsciously rehearsing the same emotional patterns every single day. Well, yes, I agree, Melaby, but not just many people, all of us,
all of us make mistakes in giving where our attention should be and how to focus our attention
on the things that are important to us. All of us stumble with that a little bit. And so we're all
in the same boat, as it were, as i'm saying uh so it's not just some people
and these groups of people but everybody is working to be better at concentrating and focusing
their attention on what they're thinking what they want what their feelings are telling them
all of us are practicing to be better and better at that mel melody yes absolutely and i think that we just have to keep reminding ourselves that we can intentionally design for lack of a better term i keep calling it
internal climate we can we can intentionally design that like we don't have to be um stuck
in those patterns and conditioned by our past and our experiences and stuff, we can break out of that default and we can change what
our default setting is. And I see all of us doing that. Little by little, all of us are kind of
improving in that way, Melody. That's how I see it. Yeah, slowly but surely. And everybody's
timing is different. Let's go to Bridget. She's got her hand up. And I don't know if there's any other hands up.
Yeah, I want to go to Escanor.
I want to...
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Krista had a question for Escanor.
It's a very important question right now
because we're all psychologically messed up.
Escanor helps you see through
a lot of the psychological operations out there.
So I just want to hear what he says.
Yeah, let's go there.
Let's go there.
If it's okay, Bridget, let's go to Escanor.
Because I...
Oh, I don't see Bridget's hand up.
Oh, okay. Okay, so it looks like she's okay with that.
So we're going to go to Escanor, and then we'll go over to Bridget
when this question from Krista gets out, and we'll continue from there.
Alrighty. So, hello, by the way. How are you?
I'm good, thanks. How are you?
I'm pretty good. I actually had a funny day because i ruined a couple grifters today but i did that while exploring mayan ruins which is
kind of really ironic i'm walking around beautiful the ruins around me fucking sunshine i'm like you
people are having a bad day i'm like i'm loving life it couldn't be more perfect actually to be
honest with you um yeah so look uh i heard a question
earlier i'll clarify but like before i do that i'll make it quick i don't like talking forever
the overreaching idea of what i was trying to the message i was trying to convey is that
for me it's a huge fucking red flag when my ambitions my goals goals, you know, for me, my family, my community,
our country, whatever,
when they align with our parasitic controllers' interests
and goals, all of a sudden,
we're on the same fucking page.
Like, we're gunning for the same fucking thing
all of a sudden,
which is kind of not a good position to be in.
Q is a great fucking example of that.
They're welcoming every fucking thing
that I thought they were against.
They're literally, they're the ones demanding and welcoming i thought they were against they're literally
they're the ones demanding and welcoming it like it's a full 180 and what the fuck's going on right
so but the jews in particular um what's interesting is that and again it lines up with everything so
according to their prophecy two things need to happen for the messiah right well many things
of course but like two things in particular that i'm going to talk about uh one the world must turn on is on israel the world would hate them
and number two i don't know if it's one or two-thirds of jews must die in israel so what
does that mean it means they need to get a bunch of jews in israel they need to kill them
and they need the world to not like them in the process.
So the whole JQ movement is that mechanism, that's the vehicle that's driving the question
about the Jews, bringing them to light.
Well, for sure, they're going to be in control of the Overton window and control the uprising,
just like the Great Awakening through Q is controlling the AI uprising, right?
They're both masquerading as creatures of light,
defending our interests, fighting against the cabal.
But in reality, our interests are fully aligned
with what they wanted to begin with.
So that's the thing that's crucial for people to understand.
Like, what you think you want to save the world,
whatever, however the fuck you want to interpret that in your mind,
when it aligns with what our parasitic controllers want to happen the world, however the fuck you want to interpret that in your mind, when it aligns with what our parasitic controllers
want to happen as well,
it's a huge red flag. And that's happening across everything.
Religion, technology, politics,
in the mindset of people.
It's not for nothing that all these few people are also New Agers
at the same time. They're externalizing the's not for nothing that all these few people are also New Agers at the same time, right?
They're externalizing the hierarchy as Blavatsky wanted through the Aquarian New Age, which is lining up with the timeline now.
So the whole Great Awakening, the whole waking up to all of these problems that we've had, which are true problems, right?
But the whole waking up has been seeded by the very problem starters in an effort to control that uprising
because they need both pillars to hold up the narrative.
They need the right and the left.
They need the good guy and the bad guy,
the antagonist and the protagonist,
and they control all of it through religion, politics, and money.
And pedophilia is the groove that fucking ties it all together.
I don't know if that answered your fucking question, but yeah.
It does answer many questions. An illusion it all together. I don't know if that answered your fucking question, but yeah. It does answer many questions.
An illusion it will be.
The secret covenant says it all.
An illusion it will be.
We will control both sides
and they will never see the separation between us.
And Escanor, could I ask you,
look at this Nick Fuentes and Andrew Tate
and these guys doing this gay influencer shuffle.
What the fuck is that about?
Well, that's, I love it.
You know what's funny?
A lot of things are funny, obviously, but you could take these two dudes, put them in
a room full of fucking hot broads and big tits, and they'll still look gay.
So something's way the fuck off with these people.
It's all normal, Matt, right?
And why is it always the most effeminate faggots that are cheering to loot and plumber,
let's take Venezuela as oil.
Like, sit down, you 125-pound wet faggot.
Sit down and let the men do the talking.
You continue crossing your legs at the girl
and fucking sit this one out, right?
So it's always these effeminate,
you know, it's always these fags that are,
they're the living interpretation of toxic male, but the conservative side, right?
They're not the blue-haired fucking maniacs.
They're the Christ cuck version of that, which is holier than thou on top of it.
So it makes me ten times more sick.
So all these guys are, look, man, they're all anti, it's really not complicated.
They're all anti, you know, and in different directions, which makes it worse.
They're all anti-family, like a normal household, family union, family, mother, father, kids. They're all anti, and in different directions, which makes it worse. They're all anti-family, like a normal household,
family union, family, mother, father, kids.
They're all anti that.
They're anti everything that you thought
they were anti a year ago.
They just proved that it was all a lie.
Tate just said Trump's the fucking man.
And Nick Fuentes, I could fucking go on forever
about this fucking asshole,
but he's taking a deal from Gold Pro,
which is a Jewish-sponsored gold network,
which is a whole fucking,
it's a whole other topic altogether
with the influencer networks, all that.
So Sandus Owens, 2 Peters,
fucking alpha warrior,
all these fucking losers have been at some point
or still are sponsored by GoldCold,
which is fully Jewish.
And now, what's his face?
Fuentes is doing it.
So he's basically become everything that... Even said,
Epstein is the cool guy.
He wasn't exactly a pedophile.
But I don't know.
I don't know how people could rationalize that
and defend him after hearing that.
I want to insta-strangle somebody that says,
oh, Epstein wasn't exactly a pedophile.
How about I just murder you right now
because this conversation shouldn't be happening. There's no man that should have this conversation ever. I don't give a shit that girl's about I just, how about I just murder you right now? Because this conversation shouldn't be happening.
No men that should have
this conversation ever.
I don't give a shit
that girls 9, 12, 14,
all of these,
all of these numbers
equal you dead
regardless of what
the real answer is.
So, yeah.
Oh, the groopers
take a big L this week
with that.
Nick Fuentes,
they put a,
the fucking Nick Fuentes, like put a fucking Nick Fuentes.
Like you said, they're turning him into incels where they're not having that nuclear family.
It's like behavioral engineering.
Like on a mass level, they have Tate out there, human trafficking.
He's pushing the human trafficking thing, making that a little bit digestible.
Then you have Nick Fuentes out there pushing the gay shit and the no family shit.
He's making that a little, you know, and it's just Sneeko and this guy.
They got every different religion, every different nationality, and they're all ahead of the
white nationalists.
It's unbelievable.
It's wild.
Andrew Tate's videos have me on the floor.
Again, I think he is so funny because he's so arrogant and it's just ridiculous when
he talks about money and like he
has so much that he can't even be worried about it it's ridiculous escobar so in essence what
you're saying is they're pushing people to be anti-semites and the anti-semites are going to
usher in their satan messianic leader is that kind of what it is is that what you're saying
yeah but look at it
this way from like uh look i've been around i've had over 30 accounts i've been suspended fucking
for everything you could possibly the fuck imagine okay so i can tell you personally
that a couple years ago you couldn't say jews anything you weren't allowed you're banned
instantly it's over now all of a sudden you, you're not exactly allowed, but you're not not allowed either.
Right.
They turn the tap on.
They're letting it fucking flow and they're controlling the flow of it.
And they're seating all these fucking assholes at the helm of the movement.
That's my biggest problem because, yeah, me and you might have good intentions and we might want to do things for the right reason.
and you might have good intentions and we might want to do things for the right reason but the
asshole that's on the social media platform on television that's gonna direct this vehicle that
we're in is a fucking asshole so that's also a big part of the problem right all the vehicles
are controlled by assholes well didn't stew peters just get demonetized because he'd gone too far
like are we even on x yeah x demon monitor and they absolutely irrelevant that's his own network
he's been grifting uh on his own fucking name well that i mean and then you look at i mean there are
a handful of people on this app who seriously their rooms are built on the topic which you know
i really can't go into but um you you know, like I said, my higher ups
told me to hold everything loosely, like going into this year. But it just seems like a driven
force in a lot of places. And once you adopt that ideology, I have a friend who's writing a book
about it. And he can think of nothing else. It's like an obsession. And I just wonder if that
obsession and that mental you know screw
that they're all struggling with right now isn't part of the whole game plan i i don't know if it's
a signal for their being paid like just replace uh q guys by um jq or gripers it's the same shit
they're all basement dwelling effeminate um you know they don't want to take action so they
leave the accountability and responsibility in the hands of some other fucking savior figure
that's going to do it the fuck for them at the end of the day they're all pussy just the same
doesn't matter griper lemming maggotard they're all they'll have no balls and the worst part is
that they're convinced they do and they're on god's fucking journey as well so you're like bro
i don't want to like i don't want to rain on this fucking parade but you're a fucking asshole in so many
levels that it sickened me so yeah yeah it's twisted like i said it's really twisted i i mean
i they can't see themselves they can't at all see what they're caught in and whether being Why is everybody laughing all the time?
What happened?
Did everyone mute at the same time?
Apparently.
Wow.
Oh, shit.
Everyone.
I hear I was talking away.
I was just saying what they're saying is true.
Yeah.
What Escanor was saying, it's basically so true.
They divided everybody perfectly.
So you really can't fight this battle.
And you do have JQ armies out there, no doubt. But at what point do they turn into like a honeypot where you could say, let me follow them.
And let's see who follows JQ.
And let me just round these people up.
I mean, you know, we got a situation.
This app is just to take our information.
You know that.
There's nothing, nothing good.
I'm not saying that you can't use it to your advantage, but come on, let's just face it.
You know, and yeah, everything's controlled.
Everything's fake.
All the influences are fucking fake.
I said before, the influences have to grab the trending story.
If they don't grab the trending story and go with it, then they lose followers. They get
de-boosted in the algo. This is all mind control. And no more clear can we see this than this
fucking article. You have that guy, Dan Coe, come out with a 100 million fucking viewed article.
That article was AI bullshit fucking slop.
However, it was trending a little bit.
Since it was trending,
all the big influencers picked up the trending AI slop.
And they were like, this is the best thing I've ever read.
And then all the regular people were like,
this is the greatest thing I've ever read.
It's fucking absolute AI slop.
What article are you talking about?
I'm saying the article with,
you know,
Dan Cole.
What art,
what was the topic though?
In case,
you know,
like,
yeah,
I don't know.
Dan Cole.
What article?
The one about the new year?
We just do an article.
It's trying to fucking a hundred million people seen it.
You didn't see it.
It's all over the fucking place.
Every single person.
The one about changing your life.'s 100 million views i haven't seen it post it can you post it have you seen any aj too for just like literally the alternate oh sorry no
i just wanted to say aj isn't this like a really good sign that there's people that haven't seen
it because we've been telling people not to pay attention to this shit.
Yeah, but I'm not a good metric.
That is good.
I don't pay attention to anything.
It's like actually a really good sign.
Like, I love that so much.
Because I really try my best to not pay attention to like the bullshit in the media.
Because I know, I just see it as like, it's like wrestling, right?
Everybody's playing a character.
Andrew Tate's playing a character.
That's his character.
He makes a lot of money because he plays a really good character
um yeah it's I maybe don't pay attention to any of this shit yeah go ahead yeah look just one more
layer to all that shit um also when you like now when you come to terms with how everything's hijacked
pretty much it breeds a lone wolf mentality right because
that's the only way forward and that's also part of the deception because it's splitting us up
because what else am i to do what vehicle is eskynor supposed to jump on that everybody's
not gonna fucking you know that i'm not gonna cause chaos on that's not gonna happen any any
one of these vehicles you let's say become a magnetard again you throw me in the magnetard
group i'm gonna fucking i'm to piss on everybody's parades.
Regardless, right?
It's not going to work out.
So you can't.
So this is why they're fracturing us.
Because we're few and far between.
We don't trust anybody.
We know everybody's an asshole.
And we don't give a fuck either.
Because we're like, my life's too fucking short.
I don't give a fuck about you idiots.
I'm going to have my margarita and fuck off.
You know, there's also a life to live at the same time, right?
Like how much of myself am I supposed to devote to waking a fucking retard up that's in a coma you know like i can only piss on your head so many times you know you don't wake up
it's not my fucking problem either right so there's that yeah you know that's the most
enlightening thing when people people aren't going to be able to wake up so you can't really
fight this you'll be fighting against them.
So your only thing to do is leave everybody behind and just worry about yourself.
That's pretty enlightening if you ask me, but man, you're hitting it on the head.
And I posted it up top.
It should pop up there any minute.
You could take a look at this fucking guy, 100 million views on this AI slop.
And then what Elon does, he says, there's now a contest, but the contest means you have to do
the premium plus fucking $500 a year. And this is perhaps to offset all the people that are leaving
the app because the creative revenue fucking rules changed, which is actually better for the app.
Anyway, you don't need all these assholes, fucking one line of dumb questions. You know,
you need content creators making all the money. Eskinoid should be making 10,000 a fucking a month on this. And many of you too. My bad Bella cut you off. No, you didn't.
We're good. Yeah. It's, there's not much, this is again, it's the topic of the space. There's
not much we can control externally, right? It's actually like a disservice to ourselves to attempt to control it.
We can sometimes feel responsible for other people's beliefs and emotions, especially people that are close to us, our family, our friends.
And yes, I think healthy conversation is a good thing.
And it's a problem when people can't have that but if you find yourself
consistently getting into these toxic debates there's a difference between a toxic debate
and an actual debate um debates are great debates are supposed to be like productive right but we
we can't always have that it's just not feasible for some people. I think a lot of
people have lost their ability to think critically and to think with discernment and to remove their
emotions from whatever it is they're debating about. Because at the end of the day, it's not
personal. Especially your political stuff, it's not personal. If it wasn't for
us being shown this information constantly it being shoved down our throats we'd be talking
about something else right. Therefore it is not personal. This isn't coming from you it's coming
from something external. So yeah it's it just goes back to the topic of the space.
How can we change our internal so that way our external feels more manageable emotionally?
I love hearing people.
One thing I really want to hear more of, and I heard someone say this the other day and it made me so happy.
I love when people say, like, I don't have enough information on that to have an opinion on it that's what i want to hear more of in 2026 and
onward because everybody has an opinion on everything everything and i know for a goddamn
fact you guys and everyone in this room and everyone on X does not know everything.
Nobody has all the information.
Because we all have buttholes.
That's why.
I think a big part of it too is knowing what lane to stay or when to stay in your lane rather
because there's so many problems that are out there.
But unless I'm an expert on something, I'm not even going to have an opinion on it.
Like you want me to fix a house
i know how to do that you know what i mean you want me to write code i'm not your guy and i'm
not going to attempt to like you know impose my opinion on how you should write fucking code for
a program or something like that like stay in your lane manage the problems that you know you can
manage that you're an expert at because you face those problems before and come out on top. If you're facing the same problem again and again and again and failing,
maybe you're just not that good at solving that problem and you should just move on.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I've met some of the most world-renowned investors throughout my career, and they've all said it
that there's no way you can know everything, but what I was trained in
is asking the right questions to get to the answers. And the critical thinking,
we just got to keep asking questions and it's okay to have questions.
Yeah, it's okay to have questions. I think it's important to ask difficult questions too,
rather than approaching a situation or a conversation
and immediately jumping into judgment mode, it's curiosity mode that we should be jumping into.
Like I want to remain curious. If I don't have enough information on it for me to have a judgment
on it or to have an opinion on it, then I will, sometimes it could be something that there's
not many things that I don't want to know. Like I like knowing things. I like going and doing
research, but sometimes I might say, yeah, you know what? I actually really don't give a fuck
about that. And then other times I might say, hmm, I do give a fuck about that, but I still don't have
enough information for me to make a critically thought out opinion or a judgment on it.
So therefore, I'm going to go do my own research. And that's the best. It's the single best way to
get someone to shut up and stop like shoving their opinion down their throat, down your throat.
It's the single best way to say, I actually don't have, and you can, you can boost their ego a bit.
best way to say, I actually don't have, and you can, you can boost their ego a bit. You can be
like, listen, you sound so knowledgeable about this. And I just don't like to think, take things
at face value. So personally, I I'm going to take everything you just said to me, and I'm going to
go do my own research because I need to do that. That's how I make critical decisions. Tell them
that they're going to look at you and be like, what?
Like, because we don't do that anymore.
Everyone has to have an opinion about everything and fight about it and argue about it, debate about it in the moment.
I swear to you, if you say that to someone, they're going to look at you and be like,
what?
Or feel shitty about their opinion of you.
Like, what the fuck?
Sorry.
I just have to say that. It's true. It's true. Because
then as you guys, as you start to like decipher, and you everyone does their own research, then
sometimes we end up coming together. And we all find out that we're really close to being on the
same page than we thought we were. But oftentimes, that's what ends up happening. And, and it wasn't the, it wasn't the
facts that were dividing us because the facts we can go back and forth about facts. Well, did you
hear this? Did you hear that? Did you hear what this person said? Did you hear what that person
said? It's not the facts that are dividing us. It's the, um, it's the ideology. It's the like
subscribing to a specific place and saying, I have to believe this because that's what the group of people I identify with believe.
Well, I think that it's partisanship, right?
It's I have to participate because that's who I say you align with hypothetically a political party, for example, you know, all your critical thinking skills went out the window because you're now going to make all your decisions based on if that political party agrees with whatever the topic at hand is.
So you're no longer thinking critically.
You're only thinking in the scope.
It's like you're looking through the lens of what that party is telling you you're allowed to think.
And that's not right, in my opinion.
And that's where it's adopted into the identity that i was talking
about earlier milla when it becomes something that you've adopted into your identity you are not
you are towing the line right um and anyone that is counter to what that group think or identity based, whatever it is, that's then
something that is going to be fought against. And this has been trained into people. If you
go back, if you step out of the political and look at what has been happening over the last, let's just even say
10 years, 12 years, you'll see that that is the narrative that they've been pushing people into.
Fight against each other, then you don't see what's really going on, right? But it also means
that you will, you will die on that hill for whatever that is once it's been pulled into your identity,
once you have adopted it.
And that happens unconsciously for a lot of people.
And I will say, you know, my own mother and her husband are like that right now
with a particular thing with politics.
And you cannot even mention anything that is counter to whatever that is without getting an extreme reaction from them.
And it's because they've adopted it into their identity.
And that can happen across the board with lots of different things, not just politics.
And if you look, it is pushed out not by the everyday average people.
not by the everyday average people.
They're the ones that are doing that group pressuring thing for one another
to hold each other into that.
And that too is a psyop.
It's all,
it's all,
it's all to keep us distracted.
The less we go within,
the less we see what's truly happening in the world.
Facts.
It's so true. Yeah. Escanor, we had Escanor happening in the world. Facts. It's so true.
Yeah, Escanor.
We had Escanor first and Timmy.
Yeah, AJ, did you want to say something though?
I'll go after them.
Okay.
Thank you, Bridget, for that.
And then Mella, I don't know if you want to play a song,
close it out, whatever you want to do.
What's up, Escanor?
Yeah, hey.
Yeah, you guys were talking. are talking just inspired some thoughts right
um you know I look at things differently at least in a way to try to help people I look at things
I don't try to tell you what the fuck is truth or what what what I think or what is what is right
I try to dispel deceptions to break down bullshit that's blocking your vision and you try to see whatever
the fuck you can see you know what i tell you is really irrelevant and i do that to myself too
however there's you know i do this mental experiment every couple years and it's just
proven one thing right so i know i would ask myself today you know do you think you know
what the fuck's going on? Are you smart?
I'd answer yes, yes.
I'm the egotistical prick that I am.
But if I were to go back five years and I were to ask Espinor five years ago,
hey, are you smart?
Do you know what's up?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yes.
But if I look back at Espinor five years ago, this guy was a fucking retard.
But he thought he knew fucking everything.
And if I look at Espinor five years before that,
I'm going to actually go get, sorry, man, I muted you by accident.
I'm going to go get one of our posts from 2021.
Yeah.
Yeah. All right. Cool.
Yeah. So long story short, if you keep going back five years,
you'll realize that you're just more and more retarded.
So what does that mean?
It means that in five years from now, there's a good fucking chance that today's you is going to be a retard.
So just always keep that in your mind, right?
No matter how smart and how much you think you know is going on, always remember that statistically speaking, you're going to be wrong about everything the fuck that you're saying.
And another thing about personal experience, for i could talk about myself and i've just learned the lesson most people just try to hang up new stars or like when their heroes turn to villains
they'll look for new heroes you know i've just learned my fucking lesson and what's worse is i
learned my lesson in disgusting ways like all the crutches that i had at different you know points
in my life obviously have all turned out to be fucking, you know,
some sort of pedo-disgusting, you know, mystery school,
Luciferian satanically inspired,
because that's what everything the fuck that is confusing us today is,
whether that's religion, you know, even the whole coaching,
the whole coaching world, you know, these coaches coaching the whole coaching world you know these coaches and
mental coaches these people have been seeded by theosophists as well like all of this find your
inner self your betterment all of these assholes are controlled by the same asshole who are trying
to step on your head and steal your money from your account right so you're getting fucked from
all ways it's really like it's something. So what do you do?
It's either you become helpless and you wait for a savior figure or you say, fuck it.
This has no effect on my happiness.
And you try to figure out what you need to do for your immediate happiness and those around you.
And you work outward.
You don't try to save the fucking world and then try to pay your fucking mortgage, motherfucker.
You pay your mortgage first and then you try to figure out how to pay the fucking world.
What's wrong with you?
You can't offshore your accountability
for some grand scheme of saving all the children
because they have to wrap it into something that's going to,
you know, it has to be some noble,
the base has to be noble, right?
Because you have to think yourself better than everybody else
because I'm doing this to save all the kids in the world.
That's why my life sucks. I'm a retard. I all the kids in the world. That's why my life sucks.
I'm a retard.
I'm great in rushing other people.
I can't pay my rent.
That's not, you know, you got to set barriers.
So it's very important to do that.
And that's it.
Yeah, absolutely.
Everybody's got to take care of yourself.
Nobody's going to be a help if you're sucking wind out there.
And you got to kind of, you know, I think a lot of the Q people are people who are waiting for Nisara Jisara. I really do.
Look, there's some good people. And listen, I know some great people who are in that movement
and they're really not only bank, they're banking on it. You had General Flynn, you had Trump
throwing up Qs. People are dying. They really thought there was going to be a currency re-evaluation
and the currency re-evaluation takes place all throughout the past, but not in the way
people think.
If you read, it might be Creature from Jekyll Island.
They'll talk to you about how the 1980 bonds were restructured from the Mexican peso.
But it wasn't a one-to-one change or anything like that where the people holding the currency.
It's the people holding the bonds.
It's a bond scam.
But yeah, we'll keep it going.
Melody, we'll go to Timmy G.
And Tim, after Timmy G, Melody, you want to sing and we're out?
Yeah, something like that.
We'll probably close out soon.
Yeah, the end of the day, there's two things.
I like pointing out the grifters also and noticing the people that are literally just
manipulating shit, telling me they're suppressed when they're not suppressed and then transferring that information over to
local, local community, really taking everything that I learn and teach, teach my friends and
other people.
Like they're not watching anything, but, uh, Candace Owens, the Nick Fuenteses, the Fox Newses,
and thinking they're informed.
Or they get overwhelmed.
And just thinking about the reality, they're overwhelmed.
And it's just, I try to translate the ridiculous to the achievable.
Like, just simple shit., like go to the school
boards.
Yeah.
I don't think we're going to vote our way out of this, but I think we can take the purse
strings to kind of manhandle our way differently.
You know, they created a pretty shitty system.
So we need to, you know, choose our own battlefield on it.
And the ideologies are huge.
Like so much of this stuff is like alternative reality games
with the Charlie Kirk assassination fed slop games
where people feel like they're a part of an investigation
that they're not.
And like all these arguments of the Zionist, the JQ,
they're two retards of the same coin.
Like literally they're the same ideologies,
just A and B type. And it keeps us
from coming together on stuff. So I love the fact that we're talking about just, honestly,
energies, where to spend the smart time. And we just got to break things down to the foundations
because literally all of our history has been fake and gay, and they want to cherry pick the dates. They had us memorize the dates of wars, not the real reasons behind them. Same monarchies,
same pharaohs, same bloodlines are all still in control. They've shape shifted into every single
organized religion at the elite levels. That's why you need to have money to be at the top of them.
Doesn't mean anyone that's Catholic, Jewish, Christian,
et cetera, are bad people, but the elites in your groups are most likely. And we all need to figure
out that they want to kill a working class with critical thinking. And just all we can do is
create thought provoking questions to ask people to get them to start thinking themselves because
otherwise we're dragging dead weight for trying to tell people to get them to start thinking themselves because otherwise we're dragging
dead weight for trying to tell people what to think. I agree. And Timmy, I want, I want you
guys to take a look up before Mello plays. Um, look at my post to Escanor in 2021. I was into
the Q shit a little bit. I was really into it. Escanor was great at breaking down facts and he
was always the first person to see what was going
on before everybody else. And he, I'll even read it. I said, I almost started crying in the fetal
position when Mike Pence turned on us, but months before Patriots had doubts. I failed to do my
research and I paid the price, but Eskinor, he was bringing truth. If we want to avoid truth,
we may as well be sheep. That's from 2021. So Escanor was
starting to say, nah, I think we're getting played guys. I think we're getting played.
Keep your eyes on it. Let's see what happens. But I think we're getting played. And look,
if a plan doesn't have a finite ending, if there's no ending in sight, it's not fucking a plan. It's
fucking hope, you know? So that's where we are with this. But look at that Escanor from 2021.
I'm going to fucking frame that.
Yo, that was, sorry,
that was my pen's thread.
I think I fucking raped that asshole.
Fucking child molesting piece of shit that guy is.
Fuck.
That was a fucking heartbreaker too,
but he's a fucking asshole.
They're all assholes.
Yeah, one by one,
they're going down left and right.
And it's amazing all the shit Trump's involved in.
It's crazy. How did he even hide that when he was in office? Because he was a part of it.
How did we not question Trump when Pence was his vice president? What was wrong with us?
Listen, I was in the Q space, Krista. I was in the tunnels hiding yesterday,
and they were fucking talking about Palantir and they were like,
well, Palantir has been in fucking business way before Trump. He's, he said fucking Palantir,
they use Peter Thiel. They're using Peter Thiel against Palantir and they're using it on the
deep state. Like that's a fucking crazy conclusion to draw. And if it is true, how the fuck could
you draw that conclusion? There's way too many bridges to lay down to get to that conclusion.
You know what I mean?
They still have egos, right?
Like on the highest effing level.
And, you know, I just, let's just watch them take each other out.
Honestly, that's what we should.
We should just go, okay, that's the gladiators we're going to watch is the elitists take each other out.
That's what we should just be hoping for.
I'm going to let everybody take each other out. That's what we should just be hoping for. I'm going to let everybody take each other out.
They're working together.
I don't think they all work together. I don't. I don't believe that. I do believe that they
secretly hate each other. And I think there's a lot going on there behind the scenes. I know
we want to think they're all working together.
No, they're carving up. If you start looking at all the universities around the country,
you'll have like literally, well, yeah, sorry, Chris, I'm cutting you off. You know that like
by Evanston, look at University of Chicago, and now they're starting to do the expansions. They're
building their own little tri-state cities around the universities.
I know, but I just don't think it's, I mean, there might be a pinnacle, an unseen pinnacle
that we just don't know about, period, that just is running everything.
But I just, the players that we know and everything, I just think ego is an ego.
Human is a human.
I mean, unless these are truly not human, like, and that's possible.
I just feel like they could i think there could end up
fighting amongst themselves and destroying each other on the way like that is possible because
an ego is an ego and okay i don't know what i'm saying but i just have this feeling like
like they'll eat their own kind of like the Pritzkers. Yes, exactly.
I'm letting everybody fight.
I'll let people fight on the fucking app.
I'll let fucking Zionists kill anti-Zionists.
I'll let people fight in the fucking street.
I'll let the AI, I don't give a shit about AI until Terminator's in my front fucking yard.
I don't give a shit.
I'm going to call this bluff
because I think the cell phone is really fucking with us.
I tell people this often. If you had a cell phone in the 1960s with JFK getting a bullet in his
fucking head, you had the civil rights, all these fucking riots all over the place, way worse than
we had now. BLM will die in history, but the Black Panthers, they still talk about them today.
You had 1960 Cuban missiles bearing down on us, the Cold War, getting up and running,
our parents hiding under fucking desks, Martin Luther King, all those guys, the Vietnam War
get kicked off the fake fucking UFO landing.
If we had these cell phones in our hands in the 60s, we would fucking batten down the
hatches.
We would think the world's ending.
So you got to almost say, how much of this is mind control?
But there's no doubt we're getting our ass kicked financially.
Absolutely getting our ass kicked financially.
So this really becomes a financial game more than it becomes anything else.
All the other shit is mind control.
So you're not looking at the finances, I think.
But yeah, what do you want to do, Mella?
I'm going to try and control your minds with some music.
Right, Mella, she could have a mermaid tail.
And as she sings her songs,
us helpless guys,
we smash our boats on the jagged
rocks, sinking to the bottom
as she sings her songs.
She could be a mermaid, a siren,
stealing our souls.
I could see that in a movie,
just like on a jagged cliff somewhere with a guitar
Surrounded by like
Crash chips and pirate booty
As we sink to the depths
Right Danger?
That makes me want to hear a song from Danger
I want to hear a song from Danger
I have a specific song I would love to hear
Because it's selfishly a song
that he wrote for me but you don't you're a jerk you don't have to play hey you don't have to play
that one you don't want to oh i'm not to put you on the spot if you don't want to play you're okay
i can play well no i'll play one but you don't have to play that one okay i was i was only saying that because i i haven't heard it in
a while and i'm just selfishly like that's okay you know what i haven't played it in a while and
that's why i'm a bit rusty on it so if you know what now i'll have it ready for the next bloom
room okay i promise cool can you play you're a Jerk? I was thinking I was going to play a song I wrote.
It's called I Am Addiction.
I don't know if you guys heard that one before.
No, kick it.
All right, here you go.
It's kind of dark.
Wait, it's in voice focus isn't it yeah i was gonna say it sounds a little different than usual okay here we go is that better that must be better I feel you moving closer
Come to me baby, pop me open
You know I'm everything that you need
I'm your want, I'm your lust
I'm the air that you breathe
Cause you still believe I'm here to help you
Just because I make you feel the way you want to
You think I'm what you need at the end of every day
But the truth is, baby, you're just a game that I play
I'll be the only one to make you feel alright
I'm the only one to make you feel alright
I love it when you come crawling back to me
Late at night
Cause so many things I'll take from you
Just because I want to
I'll take your health, your wealth, your reason to live
And even though you're gonna blame me, I know you'll always forgive
Like why I'm the reason you can't go and buy yourself that brand new car
I'm the reason why your dreams always seem way too far
I'm the reason you can't go on a nice relaxing vacation
I'm the reason why you failed your last psych evaluation
I'm the one that keeps you broke evaluation I'm the one that keeps you broke I'm the one that keeps you sick
I'm the reason why you're overweight and your wife left with your kids
I'm the reason your daddy left I'm the one that tempted him
I'm the one that makes the addict able to justify the sin
I'm the only thing you hate to love because I'm what you crave
I'll build you up like a master, but you'll really be my slave.
I'll convince you I'm under your control and you have all the power until I get your feeling
for me around the eleventh hour.
And that's when I'll be the only one to make you feel alright. I love it when you're gone crawling back to me late at night
Cause I'm the reason empires fall you see I'm the one that ended them all
It was me I'm easy to acquire I'm not hard to enjoy
I'm only here to steal a little bit, maybe kill and destroy
I've been playing this game since long before you were alive
I'm your bondage, I'm your burden, I'm your hatred, I'm your strife
Once I dig my claws in you, I'll never let you leave
I'm the marks on your arm, I'm the stains on your teeth
I'm the reason why you stole from your family and your friends
I'm the reason you're stole from your family and your friends
not the reason you're alone and why you're penniless again some call me a demon
some call me affliction no no no you already know my real name
I am addiction.
i am addiction
Bing bong, bing bong, bing bong.
Ah, the rooster.
Take me back to Pimp Radio, Mella.
Yeah.
Yeah, Dange, appreciate that. Yeah, yeah, we'll keep it. yeah danger appreciate that yeah we'll keep it thank you man
we'll uh keep it going i think mella's gonna do a song we might uh close it out after that but
you know awesome you get a little music at the end of this it would not be a mella b space
can i say something danger it should be spelled i and then a mM and then dick, D-I-C-K and then T-I-O-N.
I am a diction.
Like, because it's, the person in there is such a dick.
That's all I thought about when you were singing that.
It was really good, though.
Danger, all I know is I want to smash your right hand because i
fucking i hate your fucking fingers i've noticed a running theme with danger it's like he he's just
so good that he makes people angry about it i love it it's so fucking awesome it's not my intention
i love it it's, you write amazing songs.
You have such a killer voice.
You play guitar like a fucking maniac and it's amazing.
And I'm so stoked to hear how the album turns out.
it's probably smart to be a guitarist,
right?
Danger,
because you're good with your fingers.
Like the girls see that,
like,
you know what I mean?
It's like,
I never even thought of that.
I gotta be honest bro in all my years a guitar player never never got me laid once and i i i could rip it no that's impossible well if you it depends were
you a bassist because bassists don't get laid no i was a six-string slinger oh okay well
paul mccartney crushed all the time.
I think that just means that your bandmates weren't good wingmen.
They were
skinnier. I'll give you that.
Yeah.
They were frontmen.
They weren't wingmen. And with James, James was
the wingman.
All right.
I'm going to dedicate this one to Krista.
Yay, the line.
Is it about Bitcoin?
It's not about Bitcoin.
This one's called The Line.
Yeah, I'm just going to play it,
and I encourage you to listen closely to
the lyrics. We have someone that wants to come up. I'm not opposed to people
coming up. I just I'm probably gonna close out fairly soon, but I'm also not
in a crazy rush today. Anyways, here we go.
Oh fuck. Okay, I had to remember my own chord progression.
Here we go!
Two, three, four. How'd we get here? I know There's more left untold They've taken our souls
I'm doing as I'm told May I raise a fist
Or a question that is too close to the line
I've come to realize we hold our own disgrace
We've seen our better days
But this hope I do maintain
We'll make it out, make it out alive
We'll make it out alive
Make it out alive
Some say it's just fate
Must I participate in death before dishonor
If your honor is a fool
And I don't like it here
I've become so insincere
And I can fake a smile like it's my day job
We hold our own disgrace, we've seen our better days
But this hope I do maintain will make it out, make it out alive
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
We'll make it out, we've seen our better days
But this hope I do maintain
We'll make it out, make it out alive.
Bing bong, bing bong, ding ding ding ding.
Cockadoodle doo.
Mel, I love that song.
Thank you, Melba.
Melba, you're the bomb.
Oh, thank you.
We'll make it out alive or we'll die, right?
There's no other ways around it.
We'll make it out alive or we won't.
And it doesn't matter.
Either way is beautiful, no?
Yeah.
I like that death before dishonor if your honor is a fool.
Yeah.
Must I participate in death before dishonor if your honor is a fool?
I don't want to? I love that.
Yeah, the second verse of that song is like, I really got into it there.
I was like, proud of that one.
I'm glad you caught that line because that's one of my favorite lines in the song.
Yeah, I grew up in the white power movement.
I heard fucking dumb fucks say that plenty of times
yeah death before dishonor well what if your honor is a fucking idiot
mellow remember we were on the jq space and you fucking sang and trevor's like
that that aryan voice she's an aryan queen right oh my god yes i remember that
yeah they're gonna go back what sir that's gonna say
they're gonna go back to that space we need to stop yeah like somehow that needs to be removed
from the internet but it's gonna live there forever and someone one day is gonna
come for me i'm on a list blue jean arian queen oh They were like, look at that beautiful Aryan voice.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I just...
Sorry, it was a great song.
It was a great song.
Awesome lyrics.
Yeah, and it's like Sir Eskenhor said, you know, you're going to look back 10 years from now and you're going to be like, fuck, my honor was a retard.
I'm glad I didn't listen.
You know?
Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, uh, so the second verse kind of starts with like some,
some say that it's just fate, right? Some people are like, well, this is just the way things go.
This is how we have to, to live our lives. Right. And that's what led me to that line. I was like,
yeah, but why do I have to succumb to the circumstances?
I don't think I have to, especially if I don't agree with them.
Well, yeah, and we can't control what circumstances come our way.
We can only control our reaction to them, right?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, the title of the song is the line.
Because the specific lyric in the first verse, I think,
where I say, can I ask a question? How do I say it? It's like,
may I raise a fist or a question that is too close to the line? I've come to realize blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah. so that's why I called it the line
because I was like I feel like that's what that's what's happening here is everyone's putting up
these like invisible barriers that you're not allowed to cross you're not allowed to ask certain
questions you're not allowed to deviate from the norm and I don't like that I think it's so
important that we have difficult conversations civilly we like like, if it's, if it's going to be a yelling match, that's not productive. I like productive, difficult conversation. Um, but I think that that's when things go wrong is when people stop talking. So, yeah.
So, yeah.
Yeah, thank you guys.
Because of fear.
And we'll go to Kikito, and then you want to do finals, and that's it.
Kikito, what's going on, man?
I know you're in a bunch of spaces.
What's going on in the space world?
You're in Victus space.
Give us a summary of what you see out there.
Spaces is so small, which I like because I know most of y'all.
I mean, I knew Devin.
I hadn't heard him
slay like that but uh i did not know melo uh glad to have met all y'all um is there any i know it's
kind of hard on spaces when you're jamming on spaces but is there any way anybody kind of has
some hotel california in them i know it's not the coolest song or whatever. Oh, it's a cool song, but I'm not your guy.
I love that tune.
Yeah, I don't know if I can pull it off right now.
I understand.
Yeah, I sometimes play covers in spaces.
I haven't done a music space in a while.
Like, the space was definitely more of like a chatty space,
and I usually close it out with a song.
But maybe the next music space I do, I'll send you an invite, and maybe we can get some Hotel California going.
Yeah, please do.
And I love the mixed format spaces where there's some commentary, some poetry, some real chatting and bitching and real issues being discussed and music and all that.
It's pretty cool to have that mixed format. Yeah music is always a good reset you know sometimes the space either
gets kind of you know it dies a little bit and then we reset it with some music or it gets kind
of heated and we mellow everybody out let us uh let us simmer down a little bit with some music
so i like doing the hybrid approach.
Today was good, though.
I feel like we had a really good productive conversation.
Nobody got into a yelling match.
Nobody argued about anything.
I feel like we're all kind of on different pages,
but in the same book.
We're all equally fucked.
We're equally fucked.
Yeah. Yeah, well, it was lovely. I really enjoyed this space. Um, guys, I host the bloom room on a
weekly basis. This is only episode three. Can you believe it? We've made so much we've, we've
covered so much ground. Um, I could tell you what's next. Hold on second i i don't know i'm probably going to
be hosting it i think sunday's good like i think this was the biggest turnout was it not
is sunday a good day for spaces do we feel any type of way um i don't know i don't have enough
data to come i like it's hit or miss it depends on what spaces are going on yeah you know it's hit or
miss but i i definitely won't be hosting it on saturday because i'm another friend's birthday
party i'm going bowling oh my god i'm so excited five pin or ten pin uh ten pin oh good real
bowling okay yeah like actual bowling are you kidding me? What the fuck is five pin bowling? It's for kids. That's what it's for.
Oh, so you're calling. Was that your way of calling me a child?
Whoa. I asked first. I asked first.
I feel personally attacked, Danger Devin. No, I'm excited though. I haven't been bowling in a while um so maybe either it'll
probably be friday or sunday so i'll post it up and you guys can save your reminders but i would
love to have everybody that was here back in the space because my my goal with this space is that
um we kind of like i have every every episode is planned like I
have a different topic for every episode and I'm kind of tracking like what we talk about and I
don't know I just I want us to kind of like go through the year together we started the first
week of January um and I want us to go through the year together and like the entire like goal of
this space is to encourage growth and to encourage progress in our own personal goals whatever those
may be so today we were talking about changing our internal climate because it's really fucking hard
to reach your potential when your internal climate is being weighed down by the external,
when you're, you know, not in a good state, you're not in a good frame of mind. So that was today's
topic. And everything that we talked about, I don't think we got off track because it's all
of the things that weigh on us. And I think one of the ways that we can change our internal state is to talk
about things and to get them out and to have a place to have good, healthy discussion. So I think
that today was really productive in that way. Um, but next week, uh, what do I have here? Ooh,
this one's exciting. Next week, we're going to talk about how to monetize, but also keep your
soul. Like don't sell your soul.
You can still, you know, monetize and make money.
Nobody ever wants to talk about money because it's like the one thing that makes people uncomfortable.
But I think it's important to talk about that.
How can we monetize on our own personal skills and actually, you know, make ourselves more valuable so that, and learn new skills like
Danger Devin was talking about earlier. So that way we can, you know, we don't have to succumb to
the various ways that people are selling their souls in the name of profit. So that's what we'll
talk about next week. Well, that's interesting, Melo, because you have Beehive back. I know
Eskinor's on Substack. Bridget's on Substack. You can make money there.
I don't know how it is, but Beehive,
people are saying they're making big money.
Eskinor, could you make money on these platforms?
He might not be there.
He's sleeping.
I'm here, sorry.
On what platform?
Substack.
We're talking about next week,
Mela's going to do one on...
Monetization like Monetization
So you can like monetize all different ways
Now there's Substack
I know you're big on Substack now, you're doing good
And there's Beehive
People are doing real well there, I'm interested in
To hear your experience
Yeah, Substack is cool, it's a lot less toxic
And it's more
I guess artist based
Which means for me, it means
I could write in a more intellectual, profound way as opposed to shit-ball-stinging, wasting
people, even though I still do that, obviously, right?
But yeah, there's a sub-option.
I don't know.
Look, there's some groups that actually do lives and streams on that too
so it is something that she should look into in my opinion
and it's kind of clean, the people that are not as
not as psychotic
at least not for now until I make them that way
and is there censorship on there?
like does anybody lose their account on there?
I'm still there
he's like well fuck
he's like well fuck if I didn't get cut out of it.
I think we're good.
Yeah.
If Sir Askinor is successful in his endeavors on Substack, I think we'll be fine.
I'm just joking.
I love your perspective and I appreciate you being here and sharing your insight, Sir Askinor.
Yeah, it was cool.
It's a pleasure.
I like you, Jay.
He's cool.
All right, guys. yeah it was cool it's a pleasure i like aj he's cool all right guys well i will catch you next week on the bloom room episode four um anybody you know just unmute if you have any closing thoughts i haven't really gone around the room usually i do
closing thoughts from everybody i want to check in on kc to be honest i haven't heard his voice
in a while kc got any closing thoughts for us?
A lot's been talked about.
And Casey, I put in your DMs, the article.
I want you to take a look at it.
Let me know what you think of that AI slop.
But maybe it's not.
Yeah, I saw the pinned post up top.
And what's weird is that the thumbnail is totally different, but it's vaguely the same thing.
The one I saw had like an astronaut going into a black hole. Weird is that the thumbnail is totally different, but it's vaguely the same thing.
The one I saw had like an astronaut going into a black hole.
But yeah, it was essentially the same article, but I guess it was because it was being quote posted.
It got changed somehow.
I don't know.
Oh, you know what?
He might have copied that one and redid it because the contest started after he did that first one. I don't know. I'm just throwing a theory out there. our internal climate um kind of impossible to reach every point that we crossed but i would
just like to go back to what i was originally going to say way back when um and i think it
does kind of apply to everything we've talked about uh our garden the shape of our garden the attention we give our garden the time we spend in our garden
um it's not just about doing all those things like improving your workflow or paying attention to
new opportunities uh and reevaluating and restructuring and establishing those unnegotiables.
But you can still take time to return to that garden and just sit and meditate and enjoy your hard work but more importantly take that time to
examine what you are consuming because if we are what we eat and thoughts are
food then yeah it pays to sit back every once in a while and just reevaluate. Not anything in particular, just what's inside of us.
Where is our mind state at?
What are we waking up in the morning and feeling like?
And where do we immediately go to?
What patterns are we repeating that aren't productive
and aren't serving that interest of the critical factor of what determines our agency
in this world, which is our attention.
So regardless of what's going on in markets,
new technologies that are emerging,
at the end of the day, this world is ours to shape.
And it entirely is within our own head.
And yes, I understand that, like, it's metaphorical speaking, but at the same time,
when you change the way you perceive the world and the way you think about the
world it changes the way you act within the world so yeah the dividends that pay out as a result of
the invested time and attention into yourself on the deepest level, which would be like meditation in your garden,
probably literally if you got one, but wherever.
Yeah, no, that's about all I had to say on it
because there was just so much comfort.
I know, I love that though.
You really did a good job of wrapping it up.
And I know you said you wouldn't be able to touch on everything. But I think that you kind of did, in a sense.
Yeah, he said my closing thoughts for me. Well said.
Yeah, that was beautiful.
Hey, Melek, can I jump in for a second?
Yeah, absolutely. I'm being reminded of the Buddha right now. I don't know why I'm thinking of the noble truths and the first one, you know, and, you
know, whenever we're not present or we're too attached, we suffer.
And if you really think about it, when your mind is in the forward, in the past, none
past. None of that's true. So the presence is all we have. And then two, when you get too attached,
of that's true.
So the presence is all we have.
you know, to being right or whatever, we suffer. I mean, other people don't particularly suffer,
we do. So I just was reminded of that listening to Casey say what he said, and just just ending
this evening. And thank you. Great room. Really nice. Really fun. Absolutely. Thank you for coming
through, sharing your insight. Always a pleasure to hear from you. And I hope you'll be at the next
one. It was fun. Yeah. Timmy G, Bridget, Kikito, thank you for coming. James, man, thank you for
being there with us the whole time. My girl Olive else down there but art what's going on you got final thoughts art and timmy and well everybody else yeah the um the conversation
was just really really great and uh casey really you're a ginger are you a ginger are you trying to
take over the world aren't you i don't know yes you Yes, you are. I knew it. They try to get smooth. They're cute. They come
up here and they're trying to take over the world in the name of art. I don't want to be a Neblam.
I'm short though. But then I found out also that like they can be short. So I might, I'm not,
I'm not, I'm God conscious, but also like I do have strawberry blonde hair. But yeah,
it's been a great conversation. And I really think that like,
bringing the awareness to joy, like back to center, and like the childlike wonder,
childlike excitement, joy, all those type of like my soul raptures because of these things
Excitement, joy, all those type of like my soul raptures because of these things are the things that are going to like kind of help us out as a total.
You know what I mean?
Like there's a lot of doom scrolling.
We can always like something I remind myself is I don't actually need to leave this comment.
Like I'm I'm not a reporter like somebody else that they have this handled and stuff.
I'm going to go be happy.
And, uh, the whole like energy is currency thing.
Like, where are you investing it and stuff?
So yeah, this, uh, conversation was so, so beautiful and, uh, I really enjoyed it.
I hope everybody's night goes really well.
All right.
I just want to say, and hopefully everybody else is, is sensing, right?
Feeling when people talk, sensing, observing through your senses.
But you have a lot of harmony in your vocal qualities.
So thank you for that.
And thank you for adding your voice because that's important.
Whether people are consciously aware of it or not, you add harmony when you speak.
So I just wanted to say thank you.
It's a Nephilim mind trick.
It's a Nephilim mind control trick from the gingers.
You see how they just played off each other?
Don't fucking fall for it.
They're playing off each other.
Two gingers coming together.
You're harmonizing.
I'm not a real ginger.
My hair is so bright red.
I wish. I wish I was. I would only be so blessed if it was that red. I wish.
I wish I was.
I would only be so blessed if it was that color.
I would be so happy.
But no, I've went straight up super red.
Okay?
I'm just saying.
I've dyed my hair red.
Does that count?
I've dyed my hair every time.
It's so fun.
We've seen your 2016 picture, Mella.
Oh, God.
The eyebrows. Oh, my God. Oh God. The eyebrows.
Oh my God.
You were adorable though.
Yeah.
My sister tried one of those home kits one time and she was like orange as a
pumpkin.
it was so funny.
Her hair is red in the picture.
My hair is red.
Perhaps she's a ginger.
No, I'm not a ginger.
I have naturally brown hair, so I don't know what that says about me.
What am I?
Am I like a, maybe I'm a, some sort of creature from an interdimensional space that I don't know about.
I don't know.
Always.
It means you connect with the earth and the soul and that whole earthly thing.
Okay,
cool.
I like it.
Yeah.
I feel like I'm pretty grounded.
I like,
I like grass,
like putting my feet in the grass.
why did I say that?
I like grass guys.
Oh, you're going to be in-dated with people
asking for pictures of your feet in the grass, Mella.
Well done.
Oh, dear.
Oh, my God.
If that happens, start charging for sure.
No kidding.
Oh, yeah.
That's got to be the highest level of your Patreon.
Yeah, my Patreon.
I currently have three tiers on Patreon.
I add a fourth one, and it's like 100 bucks a month.
Create NFT. Create NFTs.
Create NFTs there, Mella.
NFTs.
NFTs.
It's NF...
NF...
NF Feets.
There we go.
No, just Mella Feet.
Mella Feet.
Mella Tits.
I always make the joke of like, if I like my music blows up you guys bet your bottom
dollar i am gonna release like you know who was it pamela anderson that did her like bath water
or like you know what i mean like that kind of shit i think that's the most hilarious thing
ever because the people that buy it it's like i i just can't believe people would buy that so the fact
that she made so much money off of that i'm like you know what girl get that bag i don't give a
fuck that's hilarious that's so funny no offense to anybody that bought that or anything no yes
yes yes offense to anybody that bought that we can talk about that stuff. It's like, if there's a market for it, that's not my fault.
It's not my fault that there's weirdos out there.
We'll sell it, but we could also judge them too at the same time.
Make that money and we'll judge.
Don't forget, some weirdos will only like one one specific week
i can't do the bath water thing that totally heaves me out it's so weird but i would like
come on you're telling me that it's real no she just put a bunch of water in little jars and she
called it her bath water there's no way that she bathed and then actually
did that like that's why i'm saying like those people are operating on a level that i can't even
comprehend because how dumb do you have i don't know anyways i digress um how did we get here
well keep in mind there are the bodybuildersers that pay the breastfeeding mothers for fresh breast milk because of the treatment.
Oh, I can't.
There's a market for everything.
Yeah, I guess so.
I guess so.
There is a market for anything.
It's funny, my best friend's mom, we were telling her that she's just so innocent and naive about this stuff. And we were telling her that there are people's just so like innocent and naive about this stuff and we
were telling her that there are people out there that sell pictures of their feet she was like no
way there's no way people buy that so I actually pulled up like feet finder website showed her that
it's like this massive platform and there's even categories and she suddenly got kind of quiet and I was like Peggy what's up and
she's like I have beautiful feet she's like I could do this like I get pedicures on a regular
I'm like girl I won't judge you you do your thing whatever fuck it fuck it just jump it as i like to say
anyways i love you all i hope you have a wonderful evening i would stay up all night and talk to you
guys if i could i feel like i'm like a little kid in elementary school on the phone with my friends
that's what i used to do maybe that's why i love spaces so much. But yeah, I can't do that because I am
an adult now and I have to wake up and do things and be a productive human being. So I'm going to
go to bed now. I love you all. If you would like to apply for my backyard show, the application is
up above or it's in the link in my bio, as well as all my music, my Patreon, all that fun stuff.
If you choose to support me, it's never expected, but it is always highly appreciated.
And I will be forever grateful.
So thank you and have a wonderful evening.
Everyone on three, you know what to do.
Unmute your mics and we're all going to sing.
Ready?
Two.
Three.
And I said maybe.
You're going to be the one that saves me
And after all, you're my wonderwall
We got to be about you
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We identify as what we do for a living. So now all of a sudden you're going to see people saying like, I don't
even know what to think of myself. Like, what, what am I, what do I do if I lose this job that
I have? So yeah, it's something to think about too. I think we should go to say what's up to
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has officially banned AI music on their platform.
And that's huge because we've seen Deezer, you know, scraping their platform and not
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so far in that regard and i don't know personally i've had multiple people ask me like what's
your opinion on that and I I don't necessarily think like yes it's a good
move in terms of it's it's drawing this line around what can we create or what
The discussion around the banning of AI music on Bandcamp indicates a positive shift towards valuing human creativity and artistry, which could lead to growth in the independent music scene.
it. Of course I'm going to try and protect it. Um, I get why some people are, you know,
against my perspective, but I'm still entitled to my perspective. So anyways, I digress. Um,
how do you feel AJ? How do you feel about it?
Concerns were raised about the dilution of artistic integrity due to the rise of AI-generated content, suggesting a potential decline in the quality of music if not addressed.
that. That's fine. That's cool. But like, it's the, it's exactly what you just said. It's the
people that are going to call themselves
musicians when they're not musicians. That's where I get kind of frustrated because as someone that
The mention of Bandcamp's actions could lead to increased fundraising efforts for independent artists as they seek to navigate the changing landscape of music production and distribution.
It's more of like protecting the market and protecting the opportunities. Because at the end of the day, yes, we can say, okay, it's not that personal right it's more of like protecting the market and protecting the
opportunities because at the end of the day yes we can say okay it's art we got to protect the
art but at the same time this is how a lot of people make their money and make their living
