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The Bloom Room #004: Monetize + Keep Your Soul โจ
Recorded: Jan. 26, 2026 Duration: 3:16:03Space Recording
Short Summary
The Bloom Room is set to launch a new community on the school platform, fostering creativity and collaboration among members. This initiative, alongside strategic partnerships and a focus on authentic engagement, reflects a growing trend in the crypto space towards community-driven projects and fundraising efforts.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Wow, I've never let the music run that long.
I didn't know the song changed.
I thought it was just the same loop over and over and over again, but it changes.
It develops. That's wild.
Anyways, welcome to the Bloom Room episode four. It's still early. You're early.
We're all gathering once a week to go over various topics that I have pre-planned for the year.
So today we're going to talk about
monetizing and keeping your soul because I think it's possible even though a lot of times we feel
like we have to give up a whole lot of ourselves in order to achieve. It's the thing nobody wants
to talk about really. Like at the end of the day like we have to make money in order to do what we
love to do or else we have to turn to different things, right? Like we have to have other things
to support us. And then that, you know, we've talked about how it's important to set aside
time for creative moments, like creating things. it's important to set time aside for that.
And like having non-negotiable times for that.
Um, but if we are like pulled in so many different directions, it's so easy to like push that
to the very bottom of the list of things to do because we, we end up prioritizing those
of things to do because we, we end up prioritizing those things. Um, so I think it's important to
things.
talk about how, first of all, like how people can monetize their creativity, um, and like just do
what they're passionate about and achieve that, um, a hundred percent of the time. Like that's
the goal. I want to be able to do what I love all the time.
I don't think that's an unreasonable goal. I think that's actually like what we should,
I don't know. I don't like the word should. I'm not going to tell other people what they should
be doing. But if we could all do what we love to do 100% of the time, minus sleeping, eating.
I mean, I love, I love sleeping. I love eating.
Yeah, I don't know. I think that's like the goal, right? So it's important to talk about
monetization. And it's also really important to not sell your soul. Because that's what this is a system of gatekeeping. It's a system of like industry pressure because there's corporate
entities that own massive companies in all of our respective passions, obviously. So yeah,
that's kind of how I'm going to start things. It's like,
we're going to talk about monetization. We're going to talk about how to do it in a way that
you don't have to sell your soul to those institutions. And then hopefully we will leave here feeling inspired and um actionable like putting the money where the
mouth is i guess or walking the walk rather than just talking the talk so yeah casey what's up
welcome welcome how are you hey metal b um i'm good it's cold but i know it's freezing how are you i'm doing well thank you i
mean i had a long day of troubleshooting um with the help of dakota this was totally not
me he did a lot a lot more than I would be able to do by myself.
But yeah, we've just been troubleshooting new like audio equipment set up and like getting all the things to work.
So but it was a very it's been a productive week.
So I feel good.
Maybe I will get into like what I'm working on at some point. But for now, yeah, I'm doing good.
Thanks for being here.
Not a problem.
Sounds like, yeah, you've been busy.
I've kind of been doing some similar activity, but I was sick all week,
so not so much in the last four days, but I'm feeling better now.
So, yeah, we're good to go.
Hey, Rachel, what's going on, girl?
Why don't you go grab a mic and join the party? Hey, hey, Rachel's here. Yeah, everybody're good to go. Hey, Rachel. What's going on, girl? Why don't you go grab a mic?
Join the party.
Hey, hey, Rachel's here.
Yeah, everybody join up.
Like, let's... I feel like this topic can relate to a lot of people
because I feel like everybody wants to do what they love
and be able to live off of that.
So regardless of if it's music or if it's, like, games
or if it's videos or something completely, maybe you're really
fucking into puzzles.
You want to start making puzzles and selling puzzles.
I don't know.
It could be literally anything.
I just think it's like such a relevant topic, especially right now, because as we talk about
like the pressures of government and the pressures of like the current climate of
things, um, there's also this like added layer of financial uncertainty. Um, and also with the
technological advancement of AI, there's even more uncertainty what the future could look,
look like for individual creators and small businesses and
and just independent entrepreneurs in general so I'm like I don't know maybe we need to talk about
this how can we like build alongside that growth in a way that's going to protect our own agency
protect our autonomy and all that stuff So I think it's relevant.
I'm curious if you have anything to say on that particular topic, Casey.
Yeah, no, thanks for asking. So what I hear is like, yeah, it's basically the dream, isn't it,
to do what's in your heart, like what you were born to do if
you have something like that that's you know been always there but you kind of
had to like you know just do whatever else you were told to do and so there's
this thing that's been going on ever since like the internet became popular and it's where people
are able to earn a living without necessarily following the standards and this has also opened
up the opportunity now that you know artists and other people that might want to build puzzles or
whatever you know whatever it is you want to do I mean come on let's face it it's the internet people do whatever they can get paid to do and they're
going to do it you know if you got it flaunt it um but you know it's an interesting parallel there
because when you talk about like the intrinsic value of society and why things are done a certain way, why we have a standard.
Yeah.
I'd be interested to investigate more along that line,
but it's wherever you want to take it.
Cool.
Yeah.
I love that.
It's yeah.
With the internet,
there's this,
I like that you went straight to like the possibilities and like the
optimistic perspective because you could look at it both ways but um I do like to be optimistic
about it uh just like you when when you say that there's like opportunity that wasn't there before
um I think my dad was like the thing my dad's experience with music and the music industry and trying to make a living with music is like the thing that set up my mind initially to think that it's very, very hard to make money with music.
So therefore you should not pursue that passion because XYZ is going to make you more money and then you'll be able to retire.
and then you'll be able to retire. You can make music when you're well off. That's how I initially
You can make music when you're well off.
thought of it because I wasn't there to watch this, but I heard the second hand experience
of my dad that was in a band and touring with his band and trying to, they were on the road a lot,
trying to make money just playing music, right? And at the time, of course, they didn't have the online opportunities that we
have now. So I used to think of that as, I guess it's because I went to high school. You know,
when you're at that point in high school, and they're like, you have to pick what you want to
do for the rest of your life now. Like that's, that's, you're like like how old when you finish high school you're like what 16 17 or
something 18 i think i if you're born at the beginning of the year though i think you could be
or end of the year i don't know you can go as young as 12 in some cases it all depends on
how you test out of the requirements true that, that's true. But like, I start thinking, I start thinking about
that. I'm like, man, when I was that age, not only was I not really in the position to be able to
decide that for the rest of my life. That's crazy. Like, I remember my mom was saying they had grade
13. And I'm like, yeah, honestly, that would have made sense for me um because I think if I had
more time to think about it and like I mean there's also the fact that the internet wasn't really where
it's at today like there are so many more opportunities to monetize yourself and your
creativity and your music whatever it may be um you know people like Bridget Bridget's here
hi Bridget you should come up here. Hi, Bridget.
You should come up and talk about this with us.
I would love that so much because I actually really look up to you for what you're doing
because it looks like most of what you do is like an online business.
You can come up and correct me if I'm wrong.
But it's cool because it gave us, like I said earlier, it gave us like an agency to monetize what we love to do.
And that's crazy.
Like my dad didn't have that.
So he had to make a big hard decision at some point once he wanted to like settle down and have kids and whatever.
Hence my existence.
But like, oh, Bridget's coming up.
My dad didn't have that opportunity. So he didn't
end up following that particular passion of his because of that. So initially I was skeptical
and I, and I ended up going to school for something completely unrelated to music
because I just thought it wasn't really possible. And, um, I spent five or six years not playing an
instrument. I didn't touch my guitar. I didn't sing. Um, I sang in spent five or six years not playing an instrument.
I didn't touch my guitar.
I didn't sing.
Um, I sang in the shower or whatever, just like saying randomly, but like, I wasn't, um, like practicing my craft or, you know, learning, learning new skills with it.
Like I was just, I wasn't writing either.
Um, I was just kind of like hanging out and also spending 100% of my time dedicating myself to like what I was going to school for.
So I was so busy that I didn't touch music, which is the exact, that's what I want to talk about today too.
It's like, how can we, that's the question, because I want to make this actionable.
How can we, that's the question, because I want to make this actionable.
How can we create a, I guess, I don't know, a brand?
Or how can I create a just like economy of itself surrounding my music and what I love to do?
Like there's other things I love to do too.
So how can I create that and help other people? I would love to help other people do the same because I, that's what I've been doing for the past, um, five, six. Oh my God, I'm getting old, maybe seven years. Um, it hasn't been that long because I went to college, like I said, and took some time off, but, um, yeah, I would love to touch base with Bridget because she is somebody that lives this.
And it's just really inspiring.
So Bridget, how are you?
Thanks for coming.
Hi, Pam.
How's it going, Mella?
It's going well.
It's been a productive week.
I'm feeling good.
How about you?
Oh, my goodness.
I'm in what I call, I'm not calling
it snow apocalypse because I really hope that my electricity stays on. So I'm calling it snow
palooza. Um, I'm in that giant storm and we have snow and you, you can't see the top of the grass
anymore. It's pretty wild. Um, but I'm loving it at the same time. I am an ambivert, right?
So there's parts of me that are extremely extroverted.
And then there's the part of me that is just happy sitting at home in a warm house, reading,
meditating, playing, working, doing whatever, right?
So I love both.
And I really need that recharge time.
So I feel like that's what this has gifted me.
Online business has been interesting for me. There have been moments for me where it has been wildly,
wildly successful, and there have been moments where it has been hard, like straight up hard.
I'm actually in a hard moment right now just because I was,
this last year was really intense and I was really, really, really sick.
So I didn't spend as much time marketing. And that's the one thing I will say is I've learned
a lot. I have a public community on another app and I created, you know, it's only like 25K, so it's not an enormous one,
but it's pretty good sized and more than 25K people came to it, right? And when that was
going strong, my business was flourishing, right? And I wasn't very salesy on there. Like we did announce
what we had going on at the beginning and the end of the spaces, but we mainly were there.
My intention was to support and uplift and help people expand, right? Because I'm very woo in my
business, right? So, but that just because of that intention, um, and I've never been afraid to talk about
what I offer because I firmly believe you have to be comfortable with sales if you're
doing your own business.
And even in the woo, in the woo spaces, like how is anyone going to know what you do and
what you can help them with if you don't tell them?
Right.
So that's how I look at it.
Um, when it comes to sales, that's how I look at it.
When it comes to sales, that's how I look at it, right? But I also, you know, believe in service, and I believe in service without strings. So I feel like for me, those things are very important,
and that's why people respond well to me, because it's not sticky, right?
There's not a stickiness to it.
But I do say if you're ever sick or ill, if you don't have backups for your marketing planned well in advance, like I didn't this last year, then it creates a lull.
And that lull can financially affect us in a very
intense way. At least it did for me, right? So I'm on the upswing. And I have no doubt
that it won't last very long, right? Because I've already been through this a few times.
And I feel like what we do is we just learn. We learn from what
works and learn from what doesn't. And what works for someone else may not work for us.
And that's one thing I love about you, Mella, is that you're carving your own path.
What I will say is I learned not to put all my eggs in one basket because I had devoted so much
time and energy. I mean, I was holding spaces three days a week
for 50 weeks of the year for four years on that other app. And because they decided to change from
follow to friends for friends, we all came in one day and lost like almost all of our followers.
And the reason we weren't following every single person on that particular app is because if you
did, it affected the algo. Momo knows exactly. She was
there with me. So basically we lost everything in like a big thing. And then people were,
I wasn't so upset. Like we kept doing spaces until it was just like there wasn't enough people,
right? To really keep doing, putting that much effort into it.
And I still have a community there that's very strong that when I do any kind of space on there, they show up.
So I know everybody misses that place because it was magical and we created it together.
I founded it, but everybody that was a member of it created it together.
And I think that's another thing beautiful.
Another beautiful thing to think about is online is all about community when we're working online, at least in my, in my,
and I feel like Miller, you're doing a great job of that. Like, I'm so excited about your backyard,
your backyard venue kind of thing that you've got going on. I think that's going to be so fun. If I
had a beautiful location, I would totally do this with you. But yeah, I feel like there's just a lot we
have to like, we have to be able to manage the business aspects. We have to be able to, you know,
educate ourselves if we're not educated in that. And that's been something for me that I definitely
had to dive into because that's not my, that's not my strong focus in this, in this world. It is now,
but it wasn't initially, right?
So depending on where you are and what kind of industry, I think that that's going to
vary.
You know, we're all going to need business education, but everything else can vary.
I feel like in today's age, it's about authenticity and showing up.
Like the dedication is what brings results. And if I'm not dedicated,
it shows up, right? Because people don't see me. And there's this, I actually, there's elements
of social media I don't enjoy. One of them is the short attention span that it's creating with
everyone. I feel like that is actually a disservice for humanity. But, and I'm,
you can hear right now, I'm not a, I'm not always a very succinct person.
So I do have, what's funny though, is the people that do want to get my information always talk
about how they like the longer videos. So we'll see how that works. But yeah, I don't know. I just,
I think we always have to just stay on top of the algorithms, but also at the same time,
not let it own us and do the things that are aligned with who we are and what we're,
what we're bringing into our business to support and uplift people. And that authenticity, I feel
like is going to have reach no matter what, you know? That's just
how I perceive it. Is that what you wanted, Mella? I love it. Well, first of all, I'm really sorry to
hear that you've had, like, a tough time. Tough times are, they're tough, like, absolutely. I feel
like, especially as an independent right like you're
everything falls back on you when you're an independent that's the thing like usually um
there's there's someone to rely on in a sense like I again think of my dad my dad is a business owner
and therefore he has employees and his employees rely on him. But when you're an independent,
you rely on yourself. And when things get hard for you, everything feels like it's like falling
to pieces is that's at least my experience. So I feel for you. I'm so sorry that it's been hard.
But I also think that, and I'm sure I just have a feeling that
you thought this, but I feel like something that I is a recurring theme in my life, at least is
that tough times shape us to be even better at what we do. So like tough times made me a better
musician, for example. And I think tough times will always make someone better at what they do because, um, I guess like almost like necessity
can be, um, a reason for innovation in what you do, for example, you know, staying in a comfort
zone for too long, even though like, I wish everything could be peachy 100% all the time um but staying in a
comfort zone I don't think is um serving us either so I like to try and see the brighter side
of tough times um but also not like minimize them because I know they fucking suck so I feel for you
oh I thank you yeah I did the thing about it is like I don't you. Oh, I thank you. Yeah. I did. The thing about it is like, I don't,
you guys know, those of you that know me, I'm, I choose to be positive, right? Not,
not that I, that I don't feel my feelings because I also wholeheartedly believe in
allowing ourselves to feel how we're, how we are in that moment. Right. But then I also am like,
okay,
I'm not gonna hang out in the pity party
for more than a couple of days.
That's just my personality.
So I'm like, okay, I felt it, I've done it,
I've let it move through, I'm in the neutrality with it.
And now what, right?
Now where am I going?
And that's how I work. Not everyone works like that. And I get that. Right. So, um, oh, Momo says she's trying to come up.
Oh, I think I thought I brought her. I see her up on stage.
Oh, I think it's Rachel.
Oh, it's Rachel.
Rachel. Yeah.
Sorry. I thought it was you
oh that's okay i don't see a request from anybody um let's see i invited her to speaker
yes i think it worked yay we love rake um so yeah i just i feel like i like to use it in a way, like 2025 was a whipping.
Like coming to X was probably, probably, probably like one of the hardest things in my, it brought, oh my God.
I can't even talk about it.
It brought so much, so much intensity in my world that did not have it for so long.
And I'm just like, but I let it, I let it affect my affect my life, right? And my world. And when I finally had that moment of why I know who I am and I know why I'm here. And I've known that almost my whole life. Why am I giving my power away to these other people?
why am I giving my power away to these other people?
You know, so we're, or, and entities, because there was entities involved too.
Right.
And I'm like, what is going on?
So, and I had so many of my friends like reminding me, you know, I, there were eight people I
talked to a lot about this and, and they know two of them are in here.
Um, but I feel like that's another thing.
Like when it gets to be so intense, we can lose ourselves in here. But I feel like that's another thing. When it gets to be so intense, we can
lose ourselves in it. Even those of us that really feel like we know who we are and what we're here
to do and it's okay if that happens and we can use it. So for me, I'm all about empowerment
with everything. Mella, you know that. But how can we use this to be stronger?
How can we use this to double down on what we're here to do and be?
How can we use this to really stand taller and to serve in a broader way?
And that's where I am with it all right now.
And the next thing to come for me is rededicating, right, to all of it.
And I've used this time to really kind of look at what's working and what isn't.
And I'm still in that process.
And, you know, what's, I feel like when we have stuff like this happen, like I'm experiencing,
it's also an opportunity to look at everything and go, okay, it's not that I'm failing. It's that I've had a lot of
situations happen and now I'm where I am. But what about what I was doing before is no longer
resonant, is no longer aligned for who I am now and how I am now and how I want to be of service and how can I pivot? How can I let things
fall away that were time sex? My husband reminds me of that all the time. He's amazing at that.
He's like, you are wasting time on this. He's an Aquarius, but he's so efficient at everything.
He loves to have free time. So he gets everything done in the most efficient way
possible. I'm still learning that from him as a Sag, because I can be kind of all over the place.
But yeah, it's just how can I use it to really hone my business abilities, right? And to really,
business abilities, right? And to really, you know, show up even more authentically. And
what was the time suck? How can I either create more efficiency with whatever that is, if it has
to happen? Or how can I just pivot completely out of it and try something new? And that none of this
is comfortable, by the way. But but it is exciting because it's almost like
you know when you redo your website and you make it prettier and you know it feels more aligned and
you feel so good it's like doing that for your business and that's where I am right now so to me
it's actually a really exciting time and I feel like there's a lot of potential and possibilities
when we're in that place and if we look at it from this lens that I'm describing,
then it feels hopeful and it feels exciting. And there's not a bunch of sticky energy in what we're
about to produce and put out into the world. Because if we all know one thing, it's when
something that someone's producing feels sticky. And instead of being magnetic, it feels like it's like trying to capture you in a really
icky way.
We can all feel that.
Everybody, maybe not everybody, but all of us, we can feel that a mile away and it's
repelling, right?
So when we come at it from the place of like hope and possibility and potential and excitement
and joy and passion, then we feel that as well.
And we want to be a part of that with people, right?
At least if it aligns.
So yeah, Milo, that's where I am with it.
And thank you for your beautiful support and kind words.
And yeah, I'm just being authentic about where I am right now.
I used to not do this publicly because I do public speaking.
I used to not share any of these kinds of details publicly.
And the last five years have taught me, no, you share it because that's where you are in this
moment. And it's okay. It's okay to not be in the most amazing place in that moment. It doesn't mean
you won't be a day, a month, you know, from now. Right. So, yeah.
you know from now right so yeah I completely agree I completely agree and and I think
to your point um sometimes it's like expanding your horizons that you you kind of have to think
outside of the box and start thinking like okay how can I continue on this path because it feels like it's the right
path everything like you know it feels super aligned with my soul for a lack of a more
nonchalant way to say that but like music is what's aligned with my soul and it's like
at some point I had to start thinking outside of the box because I had this, you know, things were going a certain way.
And then when they started to shift and kind of feel more like troublesome and not secure, then I had to start like expanding my horizons and see what else could I do to make sure that this is what I'm doing, but just in a different way.
So I think it's important. I would love to check in with Rachel. Um, I'm so excited that you're here. How are you? We're having a momo. She disappeared. Oh no. She just got a call
from Japan. She'll be right back. Oh, okay. Okay. I mean, I did read the Japan part, but I didn't think she was going to get the call.
Talking about the spaces bridge, like hearing you talk, man, you have been through hell on this app.
I think a lot of us have, but this app has changed so much too.
Like since I, I feel like I was the Guinea pig of spaces.
Cause back when I started in 2020
it had just started and there was only like maybe two spaces going on and you had to have like a
specific amount of friends to be able to host the spaces or whatever I think that when the app went
to monetization it changed a lot of the algorithm for everyone and it just like
i don't know man it just changed and so i feel like the change was good for some great for some
and i think that for us that we're in it for something else i mean not that who's not going
to want monetization right who's not going to want monetization, right? Who's not going to want money. But the thing is, people are saying and doing things just to get the money. And I think that that's when you fall short of who you are, or what you stand for and things like that, then I think that that changes things. makes it a little bit more um i guess uh unrealistic uh not an actual um stand you know
what i mean and so i guess the only ones that have remained true would probably be the music
people or the people that just weren't in it for that you know but i think um this app
if you had a business when you first first started uh i think it was very different than it is now
now it's just you sit at home and you go to chat gbt and make up shit and you just go on you know
with whatever you know i mean or it's so Yeah, like the reply guy and things like that
That's not authentic, you know, that's not what you would really want to do
What I want to do is support my friends and you know talk to them on their post and things like that, but
Hey AJ, what's up danger devins here?
Yeah quickly. I'll say I completely agree with you.
And that's literally why I titled the space Monetize and Keep Your Soul,
because I truly believe that a lot of people are kind of sacrificing parts of themselves to appease the algorithm.
And something I've realized over time is, yes, the algorithm is important. Absolutely. Everybody, you know, gets their discovery there. Now, it seems it seems like that's where the discovery of new people happen.
like hairstylist or whatever was the first thing you do you go to their social media you check out
what they've done you you need to cross reference um because that's what we have to do to trust
people reviews are huge for me exactly we and so i think it started there right like it started with
like when google became google and businesses started to have the ability to run ads on Google, that's kind of what popped off the whole like social media thing to begin with,
was people trying to monetize and like people trying to, I mean,
or you could talk about like MSN Messenger.
We just kind of wanted to chat shit and like, you know, be degenerates on the internet
because it was this new thing.
But I do think a big part of the beginning
was the fact that people came here to like um i guess expand their network and monetize on that
at the end of the day so but then the social media thing it's like it's it's not a one-to-one
transaction anymore it's like a one to fucking-one transaction anymore. It's like a one-to-fucking-millions transaction.
Businesses used to be like, hey, buy this from me,
and then that person would buy that from you,
whether it was a service or a product.
But then social media changed the game,
and this new type of monetization came into play,
and people were like, wait a second.
I can make money by just like existing on the internet
and replying to people and being controversial, shocking people, sexual stuff. Like that's
where all of that stuff kind of popped off like way bigger than it was before. Oh, it's boiling.
Yeah, there was a change in culture.
Sorry? boiling and culture sorry there was a change in culture yeah yeah completely like and that's where businesses started to get really like some more scams
happening because like in person you can kind of someone knocks on your door and
they seem fucking sketchy you don't trust them like usually our gut helps us with that stuff but on the internet it's harder so that's what scans kind of, I don't know, someone knocks on your door and they seem fucking sketchy, you don't trust them. Like, usually our gut helps us with that stuff. But on the internet, it's harder, so that's
when scans kind of popped up. There's been a whole lot of cons, right? But there is the pro of, like,
now people that are authentic, because I truly believe the authentic people kind of win in the
end, because eventually the shocking stuff, the propaganda stuff, all of that, all of the
negative stuff, what I'm predicting for the future, if I had to say what I think the future
of the internet is going to be, is people are going to get so tired and like psychologically
exhausted from the bullshit that exists on the internet and they're going to actively seek
alternatives, like,
and whatever those may look like for your particular position here on the internet. I don't know. It depends. Right.
I kind of remember seeing that, um,
actually that whole evolution play out in the early days of YouTube.
Cause remember like everyone was making like stupid content at first and it was
just like
whatever people were like stealing stuff and flipping stuff it was just complete chaos because
no one knew what to do with the platform no one just was you know and then all of a sudden people
were like wait a minute what if i actually make something like useful and now all of a sudden we
have these libraries that you can just go to and learn just about anything you want in video format.
Also, Danger has his hand up.
So maybe we should.
Oh, shit.
Danger, what's up?
Yeah, no, jump in, jump in.
Like, this is, it's not a massive conversation, so I don't want it to feel like super, you know.
Yeah.
Well, actually, I was going to basically reiterate some of what you just said
and a lot of what casey just said like people these days are just inundated with bullshit
and it's only gonna get worse and like yeah i totally think you're right in that people are
just gonna get so sick and tired of the crap that they're gonna actually like search out the realness
of people and on the on different platforms and stuff like that and going back to actually like search out the realness of people and on the on different
platforms and stuff like that and going back to what casey just said me and my buddy when youtube
first came out we like we just like we had a youtube channel we made a bunch of silly videos
and whatever and we got a few views and whatever and you're like and they were like you know what
we do a lot of hunting and fishing let's like be real about what we do. And within like five years, we had
thousands of subscriptions, millions of views on our hunting and fishing show on our fishing,
like our YouTube channel. And like it was we and I wrote songs for the for the videos that we would
shoot and everything we had. We saw people that like they named their YouTube channels after like
lyrics that I had put in my songs
and like people tried to steal our videos we had a university in the united states reach out to us
and be like hey can we use one of your videos to teach a class about what happens to a deer and
like blah blah blah after you shoot it and all this other stuff and like so i've i've experienced
that firsthand where like i've created garbage content and it's gone nowhere.
And then I've created real authentic content that actually like people can learn from or people can actually enjoy watching.
And it took off like wildfire.
So I've seen it play out before and I think it's going to play out again.
It's just there's so many more platforms for that now.
There's so many more platforms for that now.
I mean, and like the main reason I stopped doing YouTube or whatever
is because I got kicked off of YouTube because like back in the,
when the trucker's convo was happening, I was making videos about like,
you know, freedom and all that other stuff.
And I got YouTube banned me, Facebook banned me.
And so I was just like, okay, screw it.
And then Elon bought Twitter and I was just like well apparently this is the only free speech
platform left I'm moving over here and then I met a whole bunch of authentic
real people like and that's that's what I love about the spaces on this platform
is like you can't be a bot in a space you have to be a real person otherwise
you're gonna get booted right like it's just the way it works and or the way I've
seen it anyways so I yeah I think you're totally right i think authenticity and realism
is going to win in the end because that's the truth and the truth never changes and if you
tell the truth you don't have to have a good memory because the truth never changes so yeah
that was yeah it's it's absolutely true i i know, like, and the people that claim to be doing really well on just like in social media, it's like, how well are you actually doing if all the things that you are doing are, if it's fake, how long can you actually keep that up for because trends are going to change right like people are going to get tired of whatever it is you you're faking about because people can tell the difference between like
authentic stuff and i think most people can i don't know i i have more hope for us than what's
happening right now i think that we're going to wake up guys this brisket i made brisket
i absolutely agree i mean you can't like you you know, when you shoot videos of your live shows and stuff,
you can't fake that content, right?
Like, that's actually Melody up on stage playing with Dakota in the background, ripping his
guitar.
Like, you know, sure, people can try and rip off the music itself, but they can't rip
off the performance, right?
Absolutely.
And I think that's a big, what i like with the with the youtube channel
that i used to have with my buddy like one you know we we would go season by season like first
the spring was turkey season in the summertime we'd fish in the fall we'd hunt ducks geese deer
you know all kinds of stuff and then winter came and it was like ice fishing all winter
and like you can't fake pulling a 32 inch walleye out of the ice
like you know what i mean so yeah i love that so that content um is it still out there
are you still are you still making this kind of content no no we we parted ways a little while
ago but like i'm saying we parted ways we just stopped making videos because life happened we
he went you know we went to college and start we started our families and everything like that we just didn't have time
for it because it was so much editing oh it was returning right i know yeah that's the wow
it was called wild wing outdoors there's i think it's still up i haven't looked at it in years so
are you still monetizing on it like do you get ad revenue? Well, I gave it to my buddy. If you still want to do something with it, go for it. But like,
I'm, I'm building houses now, so I don't really need a YouTube channel, you know? So that's cool.
That's cool. Yeah. I don't know those channels, like they can make a lot of money with ads. So
I was curious. I'm like, dude, are you secretly like YouTube famous? Are you just like out there
killing it? it no I've
got lots of irons in the fire but that's not one of them anymore nice well I
think that's it's such a cool experience though because he like you said you
experience what it's like for authentic stuff to like I don't know be successful
I think it's really it's about figuring out, sometimes I think it's actually about figuring
out who it is you are and like actually really accepting that because it's hard to put your
authentic self out there if you don't even really know what it is that you are. Like it takes time
to figure yourself out. At least it did for me. I remember like my early music, like chasing music as like, I want to do this every day and just be able to live off it.
Early years, I was definitely trying to appease the algorithm.
I was definitely trying to appease what I thought was going to be successful because I honestly needed time to find myself.
successful because I honestly needed time to find myself so it wasn't even about like trying to make
I don't know it was like I just didn't know who I was yet because I was young and I was
honestly kind of down not a great path so like I don't know looking back now I can say that
um yeah I just needed time to like figure myself out a bit.
And sometimes that's where people are at.
So I kind of want to like, you know, honor that.
Honor that phase.
Because it's not, and I think you're always figuring yourself out.
But like, it's hard to monetize on something or just present yourself authentically if you're
still uncertain oh for sure i didn't i didn't start putting any of my music out until i was
actually on this app because i was like well i've always played music but am i really a musician
you know i'm more of a i'm more of an outdoorsman and a conservationist than i am that but then
it's like well you know what i'm not really doing that anymore but I'm still playing guitar and making songs so you know that is me so here goes
and yeah people seem to like what they hear yeah I'm so excited how is it going how's like
um where are you at with your music right now uh well I have four songs that I've got recorded properly right now.
I'm not sure if I want to do one album or two,
because I've got 35 originals, 18 of which are songs that I like,
for lack of a better term, Rachel knows I use my screaming voice.
And then I've got 17 other ones that are like, you know,
my softer, more kind of sultry sounding voice.
So I'm like, do I do two albums?
Because that would be a hell of a lot more work.
So I might just do one this year.
Mix it up, Danger, mix it up.
Yeah, do a mix up.
Do screaming and singing sweet.
Absolutely.
Like you can have, I love a versatile album because then I never get tired.
I can just listen to it on repeat
Absolutely, that'd be sick or you could even do like a double
He's always cooking right she's like what he she's like Betty Crockett is always something going on in the boy
Guess what I made I made a fucking brisket in the oven cooked it slow all fucking day. woke up i was in my robe preparing guys i'm so excited
you have no idea it's finally ready so that's what you're hearing right now
brisket sweet potato mash and corn how southern of you i I know. I'm so excited.
Although the best brisket I've ever had was, in fact, in Texas.
It was so fucking good. Yes, because Texans do brisket and barbecue. So good.
Okay, so I went to this place called Terry Black's.
Do you guys know Terry Black's?
No, I went to Stardust Saloon.
Terry Black's is apparently i don't know we were told by people in in texas to go to terry blocks so we went to terry blocks and it was fucking delicious
you know it's a flex when you serve people meat like there were like steaks there was brisket
they could do the whole platter you know what i'm'm talking about. And it's such a flex when you can serve people meat and hand them like a little plastic spoon and fork.
It's like, here you go. You're not going to need to cut this. Don't worry.
Yeah, no knives required.
No knives required. This shit will melt in your mouth. That's what I love.
I love. So I'm excited
So I'm excited to try this.
to try this.
But I see
AJ, I see
a bunch of people that aren't on the stage
to chat and I would love to see you come up.
What's going on, guys?
What's the story?
Chister's here.
We're in the Bloom room.
Bloom is on.
Yeah, monetize
and keep your soul. No way. You just got to sell your soul. There's nothing you can do. What are you really going to do? You monetize and keep your soul. No way.
You just got to sell your soul.
There's nothing you could do.
What are you really going to do?
You just got to sell your soul.
Don't just do it now.
Look, you're really going to take the side.
People are running from one psychological operation to the next.
There's no one.
It's every man for himself right now.
There's no way around it.
Get yourselves to high ground.
Sell your soul
wouldn't that be the low ground i know he doesn't mean that
it's funny when he says it it's funny when he says it and to be honest guys sometimes it's hard
not to think like that because good people have to build much shit, especially on this damn app.
So it's like, God, does it pay off?
That's why a guy like AJ is good because he just sits there and pokes you with a pointy stick.
And you're like, no, I'm not going to do it.
Fuck off.
He's like that little devil on your shoulder that's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, do it, do it.
And that's what I love about him.
I say selling your soul is basically not following your passion, but like getting ahead financially, whether that means getting a fucking job and working hard, that's selling your soul.
It really is.
But if you could edge out a little bit of time for creativity, you could sell your soul, but create on the side.
And that creation could grow bigger and bigger until all of a sudden you could
get rid of that system and follow your passion. You know, that's how I see selling. Absolutely,
dude. One of my favorite phrases is if you want to get ahead, you got to go the extra mile. And
how do you go the extra mile? You do just what you said. You carve off that little section of
time for yourself where you're like, you know what? I'm going to sit down and I'm going to
write a song or I'm going to write a blog or I'm going to whatever, whatever, make us make a YouTube video, whatever, just that little bit of time for
yourself. And before you know it, you've got 300 videos out there with millions of views or
whatever, right? Like a cascades like that. So yep, totally. Totally. Yeah. You allow your
beliefs to catch up to that. You believe your talent could monetize for you. You know, you let
your beliefs slowly, slowly catch up. And as they do, you can exit that matrix. You know, that, that's that, um, that, that hell that, you know,
that get your soul back. And it feels good to get your soul back. If you could create something,
if you could live both lives, then you have the best of both worlds. You see what that life is
like, you know, and who knows, you may like that life a little bit and be able to keep both. It's true. It's true. I feel like that's kind of where I'm at right now is like, Oh,
that was a terrible, um, yeah, I'm so sorry. That was brutal. I was moving something. Um,
yeah, I feel like that's where I'm at right now. Like, but kind of, because I don't feel like I'm selling my soul in the sense of like not doing something that aligns with my truth because I kind of found a way to do both. Like, yes, I work for somebody like I'm teaching lessons at a music school. Yes, I have a boss that, you know, I report to you and I have to like follow the rules and kind of if that's what you consider selling
your soul I don't know because some people do these days you know I don't I don't want to do
anything anyone tells me to do but I actually really enjoy working for this business because
it aligns with my truth it like I get to do music every day. It's super fulfilling when like a little kid comes in and, um, you know, has made progress on something that I'm teaching them. Um, it's so fun. Like,
I love it. We have like a cool venue. We put on concerts. I would love to run a business
like this someday. So what I'm getting at is you can actually like, that's what my dad
did. For example, my dad, before he opened his business, he went and worked for a bunch of businesses that he would like to kind of like learn from.
So he, he was an employee for a certain amount of years, learned everything he possibly could.
So he was like an awesome employee. And then he ended up just opening up a business and competing
with his ex employers. So something to think about.
That's basically what I did with my renovation business.
I worked for a renovation company for like 10 years.
And I was like, you know what?
I've got this.
And now I'm doing my own thing and never look back.
Yeah, everybody like, reshare the space, get it out there.
We got my girl, Rachel, in the house.
Haven't seen you in a few days.
Hi, girl.
I know, you disappeared off the face of the earth.
We missed you.
I know, I know.
I got both kids sick.
It's nuts.
They're throwing up.
I'm running from one room to the next.
And every single kid they call has the same virus.
Hmm, interesting, no?
What is going on?
How are they getting it?
Food?
Sky?
Oh, yeah, everything. It's got to be the sky. That's the only thing I can think of.
That's the thing. That's the only thing. I don't mind the way the elite rule this world a little
bit. Again, if we get rid of the elite, we got to rule this world. I don't mind the way they rule
it as far as all the psychological operations and even the money systems, I don't care that much about, but I do care about the health. They are making us sick. So we got to
figure that out. However, there's a lot of opportunities for monetization in that, you know,
those types of systems, alternative medicines, all that shit. You know, there's a lot of different
technologies out there too. There's even like meditation, what Bridget does, balancing the chakras, certain meditations
that could help your body get stronger and healthier.
I know the more I meditate, the healthier I am.
There's no doubt in my mind.
That's rule number one.
That should be the rule number one in the Bible.
Shut the fuck up and meditate.
And that's all you need.
That's all you need.
Shut up and meditate.
That's it.
Israel in the house.
What up, Israel?
Look at that little doggy.
Oh my God. So cute. that's it Israel in the house what up Israel look at that little doggy oh my god so cute um yeah come on up Israel if you can I love talking to you about this kind of stuff because
I know I don't know you say things on this and I I agree there's a lot of things where I'm just
like yeah oh man he said it but better than I wanted to say it. You know, when someone just like says what's on your mind and you're like, oh, clicked.
Two puzzle pieces came together in that moment.
Pugs is here.
Pugsy.
Sweet.
Yeah, awesome.
Cool.
If anybody is enjoying the space, it would be awesome if you repost it, send it to your friends.
We post it, send it to your friends.
And that's my goal.
One of my goals this year is to just like build this community of people that all are uplifting each other and helping each other achieve their goals.
And like actually making that actionable.
Actually making that actionable sounds really weird because of act and act being back to back.
Anyways, actually actionable.
But yeah, like that's what one of my goals is this year i have many goals but one of them is to just like surround myself i've said this forever just surround myself
with people that uplift or make me want to be better kind of that that's what i mean like i
want to be around people that are also chasing their dreams, that are, you know, working to always better themselves,
to be the best possible version of themselves, and just up only.
That's what I want to be surrounded by.
I do think you become a product of your environment.
A lot of people do.
Some people are more susceptible to it as well.
Like, I know for a fact if the people around me in my home or, you know, wherever, if I can feel their energy of like that, that person's really negative or that person's in a bad mood or something, it affects me.
positivity to the space um and i mean there already is a lot i spend a lot of great spaces
with the people in this room and and other people too but i i just want to like make things happen
with people that i care about so it's kind of my goal one of them i'm with you there
melo i'm with you 100 that's the way it should be.
Yeah.
Adrian said it forever and I started thinking about it.
He says, we have to be, we have to help each other get to the top because we are all we have.
The elites, the people above us are not going to help us.
So it has to be us.
We have to build systems outside of that system.
And guess what that means? We have to be better
than them. We have to be more authentic. We have to be true to our hearts, true to our souls,
good people, like good people. We have to act with intention to help the people around us,
not to, to, you know, the, the, the grossest thing to me is the psychological warfare of, you know, whether it's propaganda in, like, the media regarding politics or if it's, like, even just marketing.
Marketing propaganda that's, like, harmful to people to me is, like, the worst thing you can do.
Hey, I'm going to set aside your well-being because I want a dollar from you.
I just don't like it.
It feels icky.
I don't like it at all.
That's why I'm picky about, like, for example, merch that I sell. I'm not going to sell something
that I don't know is good quality. I know that there's a lot of people out there that will
happily do that, but I can't do that. I can't do it. I feel bad about it. Like, it's, you know,
if it means that my profit margins are slightly lower than what they could be,
fuck it for now.
Like, I don't know.
Then maybe I'll, you know, there's people I know that have just started doing that themselves
because all of the merchandise is a big part of monetizing yourself, right?
Merch.
Glorified t-shirt salesman we are.
It's so true. Mer merch is a big deal and it's tough because you have to put up a bunch of money to get merch to bring to your show
so some artists absolutely cannot do that it's like typical for musicians to just not have the money to front that or you have to do drop
shipping and drop shipping fucking sucks like it's it's the profit margins are low
the quality is like you know what they say on the drop shipping websites with
it with t-shirt merch and all that stuff they say the the more you sell the higher quality we will make your products so pay for play
yeah and it's like how do you expect your people the people utilizing your platform
to get ahead and to actually get that community of people supporting them
if because it's it's tons of products dude like it's tons of products, dude. Like, it's tons of products. So, so many different people are using this for different reasons.
Dropshipping is a big industry.
But, yeah, they say, like, your quality will go up as your fan base goes up
or as your customers go up.
And that's, like, gross to me because it's, I don't know,
you're potentially taking money out of people's pockets because the quality,
if they get more complaints about the quality, that means it's going to be hard to sell.
So, it kind of drives me nuts anywho meli what do you guys meli what do you how do you feel about this app and this the commercial ability of like an app like this
hold on i'm chewing someone else want to go yeah the commercial sounds like it's delicious basically oh my god x is more
i brought i gotta say this first i brought a plate of the brisket dinner to dakota um and
he he's at his desk i'm at mine and um he came out and was like, holy shit.
Babe, you did it.
He said, I'm a wizard.
He was like, you are a wizard.
That's awesome.
So it's really fucking good.
So what you're trying to say is that you throw down in the kitchen.
Oh, I am. Because every girl throws that.
No girl's a bad cook on here at all.
That's never happened.
Oh, that's not true.
That is so not true.
Right?
I know people that don't like to cook, and I actually love cooking because this is the thing.
If I'm going to spend money on food, it better fucking taste good.
Like, food's expensive, okay?
I'm not wasting my time, like, making some half-assed meal.
No, I'm going in.
I'm like, yeah, I'm very particular i'm very guys you can like taste like when when i make
food and it's like a quickie like you know you you can taste the difference when you put like
something like care like all day you know where it's like falling off the bone like delicious
versus oh it just took me 15 minutes i'm good you could taste the difference yeah like for
for example all the difference anytime so first of all i only cook with a cast iron pan
that's non-negotiable that a girl no teflon no teflon fuck teflon that's disgusting i think it
causes a whole lot of issues um no offense if you use tefl, fucking switch to cast iron. I don't know.
She still loves to make it.
But anyways, so I fucking, when I make chicken, let's say I'm just making chicken breast or, I mean, steak's a whole other thing, but chicken breast, right?
I used to just, like, fry it up in a little Teflon pan, nonstick pan, and it was like, okay, I guess it's fine.
Like, yeah, it's chicken. I got bored of chicken real quick, threw me off.
And then I got this cast iron, and what I do now is I sear it on the cast iron, and I have the oven at like 400 degrees.
And so I sear it really quick, put it on the pan, two minutes each side side and then i throw it in the oven for however
long it takes to get to the internal temperature that i need it to get to it's fucking so different
the texture of chicken will forever be changed to me because i used to hate it i used to make
chicken and be like ew this is so gross but it yeah it changed my world air fryer i love the
air fryer yes oh my god if i'm making like homemade i make sometimes i'll make homemade
chicken nuggets fucking unreal you can make them in the oven all you want but it's not it is not
i'm telling you the air fryer does like this little thing where it toasted on the outside
and then the inside is like juicy and just...
Guys, try your steak.
Steaks in the air fryer aren't bad actually either.
I was going to say, try your steak in an air fryer, I swear.
It like, oh, it's so good.
Well, because it's...
I literally bought my oven specifically because it came with one of those air fryers that's like
um it's called like a confection oven or something like that but damn it tastes so good
yeah you it sounds like you have like a proper air fryer it's like
like a kitchen like industry level is that no yeah it's not one of those little tiny ones it's
like the actual like my stove comes with the little air fryer button that's what i want because
i honestly think those are better for you because when you look at the air fryers that sit on your
counter it is teflon like the whole thing yeah and i have a small kitchen that's like the smallest
part of my house and so i can't have like a lot of shit on the counter.
So yeah, I specifically bought it for that.
I can't live without my air fryer.
It's so good.
Israel, you up here, man?
We need some help from the guys.
Shut up, Israel.
I'm trying to find a pause in here.
What's up, Israel?
It's all about food and cooking.
Fucking Rachel Ray.
Fucking Betty. Actually, okay. Pulling back and cooking. Fucking Rachel Ray. Fucking Betty Roddy.
Okay.
Pulling back and forth.
You can monetize cooking too, bro.
Cooking videos.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Actually, fun fact.
No doubt.
That's what we're going to do.
That's what we really like.
How about nothing with an apron?
Like hot girls, like cooking.
None of this other shit.
What is happening right now, man?
Wearing bikinis in the wintertime.
I don't think it's based
and all I hear is, I love my air fryer.
I cannot live without my air fryer.
I know, it's my favorite.
Isn't it? It's the best.
I know, huh?
Ooh, hash browns.
Israel's a cook.
My man Israel's all cook.
Rachel, girl.
That's what I'm saying.
He's always posting things that look delicious.
Bridget, I didn't hear you.
It almost does like a bit of a sear to the thing too, right?
Yes.
Oh, my God.
Danger.
You see, you get it.
You get it.
I tell people this all the time, and they're like,
you can't cook that in no air fryer.
Oh, yes, you can.
And it tastes better than yours.
Just submitted his man card.
You know what's really good in the air fryer?
Corn.
Like corn on the cob.
Girl.
In the air fryer.
It's so good.
It changes.
I have a recipe for corn on the cob.
Are we going to talk recipe?
Could there be a recipe for corn on the cob?
Isn't it just butter and salt like what else no sir
absolutely not guys it's official fuck the title of the space we are now just talking about recipes
no i'm just joking no you should just put air fire air fryer monetization recipe
we're going to air fryer mode guys we. We're going to do the fans cooking podcast.
Everybody's going to get on camera
and cook your favorite meal while we all talk about it.
In a bikini.
I got to tell you guys this recipe.
I'll stop on a speedo.
Because if not, I'm going to die.
You guys need to know the recipe.
I can't help it.
Listen, you put a pot
on your stove and you fill it, right, with half.
Well, not really half.
A little bit less water and more milk, right?
I know it sounds gross, but just trust me on this, okay?
And then you put butter in there with salt and pepper.
Shut up, Israel.
You put, I'm not doing Mexican corn. I'm doing
American corn here. So, stop it.
What's the fucking difference?
Corn is corn. No, it's not. Because the
Mexican corn has my mayonnaise
and that
spicy shit. That's the good stuff.
No, but I'm doing the American style.
We're not doing Mexican corn right now. So, anyways.
you put that in the pot right with the milk and half
water right um you put butter salt and pepper that's really all you need you can add more if
you want you can make it your own but this is like the main thing right so you let it boil for
like a really you know until the corn gets soft and you take off the corn and then you put that
in the air fryer to get a little bit
of toastiness
alright, that's all you need to know
call me and thank me in the morning
what the fuck did I just listen
watch
I used to laugh
I used to laugh at my best friend
I left at too many recipes that turned out to be great
I don't know if I can laugh at this but what do you think
It melts in your freaking mouth
Trust me call me in the morning
Corn does it melt in your mouth
Shut up
Mexican corn boy
That also does it melt in your mouth
Mexican corn is really good too though
I love that shit
I just replaced that nasty tagine
I'm glad you guys are hoping
Because all I've been hearing is
Ice, ice baby
All fucking day bro
Why? Why have you been hearing that all day?
That's all that's running in all the spaces
It's either that or
You contribute to that shit too Self reflection Have you been hearing that all day? That's all that's running in all the spaces. It's either that or self-reflection.
Self-reflection.
Your girl literally thought you were talking about the song.
I thought you had it on repeat.
Have you done the Dark Night of the Soul tonight?
I thought you had your,
maybe your Spotify was on repeat of that song
and you just didn't know how to...
Oh, I can dance with that song too.
The way Vanilla Ice danced it.
Just saying.
Can you?
You can pull it off? Yeah, man. I was into that i was i look so stupid i bet i wrote a new song today called it's fucking
cold oh my god it is so fucking cold it is so fucking cold i'm it's a good thing i'm kind of
like bridget i can like stay home. I'm fine.
Like I like being at home.
I like being cozy.
I like comfy clothes.
You girl.
You little toy.
I love that.
And then I also like to, when that time is over, I haven't been able to do this since I'm here to the country.
But then I want to go be in a club and shake my booty or something, right?
And get all cute.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, let's go.
Back to where I am.
To the window.
The best of both worlds.
I am an ambivert.
So I love being out.
I love shaking my booty.
That's why Tim always laughs
because he knows whenever someone plays a good song,
he knows that I'm going to be dancing.
Like, I'll stand up at my desk
or wherever I am hanging out
and shake it a little bit to whatever's going on um yeah girl love being around people I'm done with
them yeah that's I'm I'm literally the exact same way like last night I went bowling I had the time
of my life they were playing all my favorite songs dancing around having fucking fun and then i got home and i'm like oh my god i'm so happy
that that's over like i it's i don't know best of both worlds yes it's like you have so much fun
and then there's this moment where you're like i'm craving my house and my comfort and i'm leaving
now yeah yeah and i have no problem like you know i don't know I'm the type of person I have no problem being
like no I'm going home now bye we all know I'm leaving goodbye girl so it's never like okay I'm
leaving bye that's not how I do goodbyes ever I have a long-winded goodbye but I'm not like like
I remember Christmas time came around and um some people were like begging us. Family was begging us to sleep over at their house on Christmas Eve.
Both of us were like, no, sorry.
Not happening.
But it would make them so much easier.
And I'm like, nope.
I want my bed.
I want to wake up in my place, my Christmas tree, my fireplace.
I wanted it to be my Christmas morning.
So I have no problem being like, nope.
Sorry.
See you later.
I'm with you on that too.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I used to be such a people pleaser in that way.
I'm working on it.
It's still a work in progress.
I have a couple of friends that I love their houses and their guest room is so luxurious.
So when they ask, I'm always like, yes.
And I also know I'm going gonna get like all the things that
I want in in the morning right like you know everything that I need um but yeah other than
that I'm like my I don't even like to go to the movie because my TV is amazing and our sound
system is so good it's like why go sit with like all those strangers when I can watch it on my own
TV when it comes out and it's so comfy.
So unless it's like one of those movies that I just have to see in the theaters, I don't, I don't do it.
Facts. Yep. I feel the same way. I like my bed and my couch, especially my couch.
Um, I wanted to ask, uh, Israel since we got them up him up here, do you think it's possible to monetize on your passions without having to sell your soul to, like, the algorithm, the industry?
What do you think?
If he's here.
Ruth to AJ.
Israel, put down the puppy.
Sorry, peepseps I'm sorry
that's okay
I totally put you on the spot so don't be sorry
no I'm sorry I'm trying to get
my pup out
he's pretty wild man
I knew it was the puppy
this guy is too wild
alright so
what was the question
thank you Bridget so the question? Thank you, Bridget.
So the question is, do you think it's possible or like,
how do you think is best to monetize, you know,
whatever it is you're passionate about? You could be a t-shirt salesman.
You could be a, maybe you want to invent something. I don't know.
Whatever it is you're passionate about.
In today's world with like the algorithms and just industry pressure and industry gatekeeping,
do you think it's possible to monetize independently without having to sell your soul?
So that's a caveat, huh?
Without having to sell your soul.
That's the caveat.
But you know, if I want to be a billionaire,
I don't mind selling it.
Screw it.
Let's go, AJ.
Yeah, a billion.
What are you kidding me?
These people aren't.
We have no chance against this machine.
These corporations are worth trillions of dollars.
You can't really fight these corporations like that.
And on these apps,
even the people that are,
the people,
how do we know who's getting pushed
in these algorithms?
They don't seem like the most talented.
They don't seem like the most intelligent.
They're basically shit trends.
How do we know how it trends?
And then all of a sudden the influencers are forced by algorithm to pick up those trends
because if they don't pick up those trends, they lose followers.
They get dropped in the algorithm and they're studying their metrics.
Their metrics are basically brainwashing the influencers.
The influencers now know what to do, who to reply to, when to reply, which slot to push.
And then all of a sudden what's happening to these influencers,
the bigger influencers above them are now creating these lines of communication.
And now you have this handler group going on.
So as far as this app is concerned,
it seems like influencer slop gets pushed in the algorithms
and monetizing on the app.
I don't know.
It's just brain rot and slop, but I don't know.
What do you guys think?
Let me expand on that because with the question that Melody asked
and with the question you asked earlier regarding
what do we
think about X? The moment was when X was presented, when it was Twitter, kind of like the dot-com boom,
right? The social media boom. And so doing an account right now for X to let's just say help monetize or help help grow your platform
your company good luck it's it's it's hard now um because of the algorithm itself the algorithm
itself is not favored for the small business owner um instagram might have some potential on that
um youtube and other platforms yes but not x um X. Earlier, I think you said, AJ, it's politically based and politically driven.
And it is.
It is.
It's a political digital battlefield here.
But as far as monetizing for your company, no.
I'm building a tech company right now that's somewhat of an industry disruptor.
And so I'm doing everything from the web to the app to the coding.
And soon I'm going to be in the phase where I'm going to be in the beta phase
to introduce us to certain partners, get certain investors going.
And so I'm going to reach a point where I need to generate money for marketing.
That's going to be the issue, right?
Marketing for me.
Because when it's a tech-based company, it's no different from, let's just say, let's use
the example of what happened in my space with Olive.
I think, I'm not sure you were there, but Rachel was there regarding aromatherapy.
And so Creditor kind of grokked it a bit and we got some ideas going.
So you could make an aromatherapy company.
Hey, hey, hey, stop it.
You guys hear him?
You guys hear him?
No, you're very close.
I don't hear him.
Okay.
I heard him.
He's only three months and he's trying to claim territory.
He's the boss. You got to just recognize that. He's the alpha, but he's trying to claim territory. He's the boss.
You got to just recognize that.
He's the alpha, but he's still the boss.
He's my little guardian, man.
But so AI can help you set up certain layers from the products you need,
the types of products, the variability to on the P&L, the overhead, injection money,
what it will look like to market.
So it's kind of like a 50-50 there, Melody,
because anyone right now can do any type of company
with the least effort compared to the dot-com
or prior to dot-com somewhere where, let's just say, Twitter premiered, 2009, 2008.
It was harder then to build a company than today.
So to build a company is really easy.
And it's a lot less overhead than before.
But the marketing part, because we moved away from flyers, from postcards, from mail outs, all that stuff is kind of, it has diminished big time.
In real estate, it has diminished big time.
It's still there, but a lot of it goes in the trash.
And so the question to me is, yeah, we can become entrepreneurs today, right now.
we can become entrepreneurs today right now.
I can spend 30 minutes with AI right now
and it'll lay out the schematics
for me to start putting things together Monday morning.
And so the question is,
what kind of business do you guys want to do?
It's in the tip of our fingers, right, AJ?
Oh, dude, man.
Yeah, I agree what you said wholeheartedly.
And I think when it's
like a foreign monetization, there's one thing I know what works for me and what really works.
And I think what works for some really big people is your return on investment with Facebook ads,
Instagram ads, X ads. For example, if I was to spend a thousand on X ads, I would make 1100
bucks. It doesn't sound like a lot, but actually I would probably make
$1,500. So if I spent $1,000 in ads on X, I would bring in maybe $1,400 or $1,500. It's that kind of
return. And people like Gary Vee, they'll tell you this is the return on investments, your ability
to know how to market effectively, which I don't know and I don't really care to learn. I'm learning little by little because I think that's the way to do it. You create something
and then you turn on the Facebook ads and you walk away and money prints in your sleep,
whether that's an album, whether that's a book, whether that's a cat, you know, a calendar with
you baking in your bikini, whatever it is, you just turn on the spigot and let it go.
Yeah. We can use those tools, right? Like, I don't think there's anything wrong or like,
I wouldn't consider using tools to support your creative path, like selling your soul, right? Like,
I think selling your soul is when you start to act in ways or do things that you would not do otherwise because like in in a in a like I don't know how to explain
this more effectively but what I'm saying is like there are people that truly come online and they
I guess that they're like propagating negativity. They're using shock value.
They're using like propaganda politically, whatever it is.
Like people that are purposely doing that just because they know that it gets clicks
and it gets some ad revenue here and there.
That's awesome.
Like cool.
But to me, that's more like along the lines of selling your soul because you're not acting
in like an altruistic way.
You're changing yourself to make money. Whereas I think that if you're using tools to help you monetize something
that you would be doing otherwise, regardless if the world was watching you, you would still be
doing that thing and chasing that thing, then I don't think those tools are inherently like a negative thing. So
yeah, I think knowing how to run ads is important. Um, I think also like we talk about, we talk about
how there's lots of people out there that are monetizing on bullshit, like absolute bullshit,
just toxic, terrible, you know, they're not good at what they did. There's nothing to be offered there,
but yet they're still monetizing. Right. Um, I don't think, so first of all, I think algorithms
in a nutshell, they're like feedback systems. So if you are, you know, you're going to get what you
feed. Sure. So sometimes if it's shock value or whatever, you're going to get something from that.
so sometimes if it's shock value or whatever you're gonna get something from that but if you
don't have like an ecosystem built around your brand I don't know how you're making money dude
because if that was the case then everybody would be rich right like we can all shitpost we can all
be reply guys we can all they're not making that much money um at one point some people were making
big money but like lit it's also about like having
longevity and knowing that that money is going to be consistent right and they don't have that so
unless you have that then part part of you is always like reaching for something it's not going
to feel comfortable um so like i think that if we if you can build an ecosystem around what it is you're passionate about,
then you can keep your soul. And like Bridget was saying earlier, don't put all your eggs into one
basket. Right. So I guess like, there's many examples from my experience with that, whoever
you are. And I think, yeah, I think it's so true and dedication into one app,
building a beautiful community on that app.
And the app devs killed the app with in like one swoop.
Yeah.
With a change that they made.
So I'm just saying like diversify.
Absolutely.
Like there are algorithmic free spaces to um to place yourself so that way like
email lists are like the most important fucking thing ever because if all this shit went to like
i saw an article the other day it was saying like canada i ended up realizing it was bullshit but
apparently someone wants to tell everybody that Canada is planning on banning X.
And I was like, oh shit.
When I first saw that, I was like, no, like that's where my people are.
Like, no, absolutely not.
But then I realized that's why it's so important to have email lists.
You know, like there's other examples of algorithmic free spaces, pretty much algorithmic free.
They will make slight recommendations. Like I've been looking into, I just started researching school because I've
been seeing that a lot. And I saw Billy Carson is doing really well on school. And he suggested
that I start a school community. And I also have Patreon and I do live shows. I, um, you know, I have like an ecosystem, like there's so many different things that
I can place my eggs into.
So that way I know, okay, if things slow down in the live shows, then I put more energy
over here in this direction and then it starts to, you know, balance itself out.
So that's what, that's what we're talking about.
I think when we say, um, don't put all your eggs in one basket as a creator, because like Bridget said,
the platform that you're on and like doing really well on, and that's where your community is
could, you know, fall off the face of the earth if they, you know what I mean? Like it could just
happen. Um, nobody predicts these things. So, I mean i mean some people do but like when shit happens
shit hits the fan then everyone's gonna be like oh shit i should have done this instead so try
and be proactive israel what's up i'm very just probably pissed because we're no longer talking
about air fryers but you know the millionaire mindset it requires for you to understand your numbers
it does not matter what field you're in what industry you're in knowing your numbers keeps
you away from the red knowing the numbers keeps you understanding how much you need
to sell how many units no matter what you're always selling in music you're selling yourself
your talent your music it doesn't matter you're selling yourself, your talent, your music. It doesn't matter.
You're always selling yourself. We are a walking business card. And the faster you learn that in
business or in the entrepreneurship journey, the more presentable and the more professional
you'll be with. I'm sorry, it's really cold here. So I'm having a hard time talking.
I'm sorry, it's really cold here.
So I'm having a hard time talking.
You'll know how to act around certain people
because there's always a business opportunity.
I've always told my sons,
dude, you never know who you're going to meet.
Treat everyone like an old friend
because you never know who you're going to meet.
And the millionaire mindset allows you to understand that
and to understand your numbers.
In real estate, you learn that really quick.
If I want to make $100,000 in one year, my first year, I got two choices. One, I go to a low-income
type of zip code and sell about 12 houses a year to get there, no biggie. Or you go to somewhere
like Newport Beach and you sell two to three houses, depending on the dollar amount.
But either way, you got to know your numbers.
And so once you learn the numbers, another thing that I like to teach people, especially when I used to go volunteer my time at youth centers, I would tell the young guys, what do you want to be?
One kid said, I want a mobile car wash. He wanted to do those mobile
car washes. At 17 years old, I'm not going to tell the guy, like, why? Why not be a doctor?
Because I'm not here to crush his dreams. I'm here to have him learn and scale and so I would tell them great you know
learn how to scale that so this way you have more than one business so this way
your friend can run one in a different zip code your other friend can run one
in a different zip code but why stop there get a warehouse put all the
equipment there so you can expand and scale oh okay okay but don't forget this
the main part that people don't get and even us as adults don't get,
is you will be broke for the first five, seven years.
And that's one thing that youth has lost today.
Everything is on demand.
You know, reward validation, all this shit needs to be on demand.
Why don't I have money tomorrow?
Bro, you haven't even started your business today.
Or, you know, in real estate, what I saw was a lot of young real estate agents,
they didn't want to go do the work.
What was the work?
Go door knocking, go cold call, go pass out flyers, go do an open house.
They don't want to do none of that.
They would have bitched and whined that they wanted leads.
Okay, so we handed them leads.
Meaning these were people that were warm leads.
They inquired about a purchase
of a property. Therefore, they're interested. All they had to do is keep contact and convert
them to a contract. And they couldn't do that. Why? Because they got fucking lazy and complacent
throughout the journey of being locked down in COVID was a good indicator. COVID taught us one
thing. COVID taught us that having an office is luxury.
COVID taught real estate agents
that having an office was complete luxury
because we learned how to work from our home.
We learned how to work from the iPad
and how to do things more digitally.
Of course, you always need to do things
sometimes old school for the old money
and that's perfectly fine.
But nowadays, back to your original question, entrepreneurship, to monetize, to make money.
You can do it from your garage.
And it's great.
Less overhead until you scale, right?
Absolutely.
The opportunity is so much greater now.
I don't think you were here earlier.
When I started the space, I was talking about my dad and how he was a musician on the road.
And he didn't have the opportunities I have to monetize music.
He was just living in a bus, a school bus, eating Kraft dinner every day.
Trying to make it by just touring.
Literally just making money on live shows whereas
when I do my my spreadsheet and I'm going over my spreadsheet at the end of the year
there's a lot more like they're all small pieces to a bigger ecosystem right like there's a lot more
diversification of where my support is coming from, the way I support myself. Like, it has to be.
And I don't see that as a burden. Some people see it as a burden to have to, like,
you know, be everywhere at once. I think that's the feeling that a lot of musicians, at least,
they get. They're like, man, I just want to be on the road making music and i'm like dude this is like an unspoken of or an unheard of time in history where musicians there are people that don't leave
their house to play music they literally go online i used to stream on twitch i used to stream on
youtube that's how i was making my money during covid it was crazy it was awesome you were an
e-girl melby was an e-girl?
Actually, listen to this. I just, so that's what I was doing all day was troubleshooting with Dakota, my audio system. I just set up my new stuff and I'm going to be streaming,
live streaming on Twitch again. I'm going to be live streaming on YouTube. And it's usually me
just playing music and also like chatting about
stuff, just hanging out, playing some games. Maybe I like to play like community games. So I used to
do that, um, which can be a lot of fun. Like we'd play like Among Us or Marbles or just like
something like fun and lighthearted. Um, so that was fun to do and I miss it. So, and like, now I have the freedom again for a while.
I didn't have the freedom to do that. And now I do. So I'm very excited. I'm going to be setting
it up soon. Um, and then I also did like, guys, I'm in my, I'm in my just do it era. That's what I'm doing. I am no longer gonna second guess and question my, my, you know,
I don't know, imposter syndrome is a thing, guys. Um, I'm no longer gonna second guess things. I'm
just gonna say, fuck it, just jump it. Like, let's, let's do this. So I am, I took Billy Carson's
advice. There was, this was a profound space for me. We did a space,
it was AJ, um, that hosted the space and brought Billy Carson on. And we were talking about
this very thing. Honestly, we got onto the topic of like, but how can people survive and not have
to like succumb to the system and, and the, um, I guess like corruption that exists within it.
I guess, like corruption that exists within it. And I remember asking him selfishly, like,
if you were me, put yourself in my position, because we were talking about the music industry,
what would you do? And I look up to Billy Carson. So when he said, you know what, this is he gave
me like a step by step, I felt like I had like access to something so profound in that moment,
because I don't think, I don't know, I just asked and he gave me such a crazy answer and he step by step broke it down. And one of the things he mentioned was school. And then I went on to school and I saw that he has a really successful community on school. Very successful.
I was like, honestly, I kept seeing ads for this platform and I just, I didn't know what to think of it. Like, is this just another, you know, like another place for me to just be another, just another like number on social media. You know what I mean? Like it's hard on social media to, to do that stuff. So I looked into it and I was really impressed with the way that they're running their platform. And, um, I ended up starting a community that I haven't even like publicly
posted yet. I wanted to tell everybody in the space because this community is called the bloom
room. I couldn't think of it. I was sitting there. I'm like, okay, well, I want to do this,
this, this, this, this. But when I think about all that stuff, it's all of the stuff that I have
planned to talk about in the bloom room. So I was like, that stuff, it's all of the stuff that I have planned to talk about
in the Bloom Room. So I was like, okay, I'm going to connect the two and put the Bloom Room community
on school. And it's kind of like, it's kind of like this, but on steroids, like I want it to be
a place where we can actually, again, be actionable in our pursuit to achieving success in whatever it is
that we like to do creatively. So I know a lot of creative people on the platform. I know people
that are building something independent. And I basically built it because I know that being a
creative can feel, honestly, it feels like lonesome a lot of the time because it's
um you're like constantly having to prove to yourself that you can do it and to have a
community around you where you can get feedback from um I'm doing like I'm gonna do recaps of
all of the things that I so I'm gonna do live streams I'm gonna do the spaces still I'm going to do recaps of all of the things that I, so I'm going to do live streams. I'm going to do the spaces still, I'm going to keep the spaces going.
And I, I'm like taking notes on everything.
So that way I can do recaps for people that could potentially learn from this conversation
and like the ideas of other people.
I think that's again, like just true to my, um, true to my soul.
Like that's what I like to do is just help people be better.
I say it and some people get offended. They're like, oh my God, be better. That's so harsh. I'm
like, I think it's true. Like we have to be better than this system. So yeah. And then also like,
it's a tiered thing. So I also am kind of combining it because I've been doing vocal lessons and piano lessons and guitar lessons and some songwriting and music production stuff.
So I was like, okay, why not combine it?
And the highest tier has a credit system.
So every month you get one credit towards a 30-minute voice.
It could be a voice lesson, guitar, whatever,
like I said. Um, cause now I feel after like the months that I've been teaching, I feel confident
to be able, I've had to do some like virtual lessons and stuff. Um, I feel confident to be
able to offer that as well. So I was like, sure, why not? Let's combine it. Cause I know a lot of
people in my community, um, are doing like, you know, music related stuff
or I mean, I'm also a person that has many, I've had to be an entrepreneur in other ways
other than music to help support myself.
So I've started a business.
It's been a successful business.
And I always told myself that I would do that business um until I didn't have to anymore
because it was not a glamorous uh I could tell you guys actually like I we started yeah we started
a cleaning company um so it's it's a service-based business that basically um it's it survived like kind of when we started the business when people were like losing,
getting laid off during COVID. That was our way of being like, okay, it was kind of towards the
end of it. People started like letting people into their homes to clean again. And it was a means to
an end. Like we needed to do that in order to get to a better place with our music and his creative passion.
So yeah, we started a cleaning business.
Definitely not glamorous.
I have cleaned a hoarder house.
Yes, it was absolutely treacherous.
It took us like two weeks.
But guess what?
We were able to charge a whole lot of money for that.
able to charge a whole lot of money for that we wore like full-on hazmat suits like actually
We wore like full on hazmat suits.
goggles um and like face masks and like a full-on hazmat suit because this house was
absolutely treacherous so i feel like i have you all seen the outbreak
it was brutal yeah like the white like we went we had to go to an industry in industrial cleaning
um supplies company and get hazmat suits because it wasn't safe for us to be in that house cleaning
what was there without that so like booties and of the voice of an angel imagine running the risks of like
emphysema doing this shit you gotta be kidding me i've i we have like a cinderella story aj
right it sounds like cinderella story it is right i know and yeah so it was like i'd clean dude
there was one day i'd clean like i had three houses to clean that day one of them was a really
big house with a whole lot of shit to go through.
Three houses.
We started super early.
And I got a call last minute for a gig.
And I was like, it's a three-hour gig.
I don't know if I can do that.
That's, like, that's an intense day.
But it was a later gig, so I knew I would be done by then.
And I took it.
And it was terrible. i did it you did you did cleaning
houses for for clients or for a company it was our business so we we started the company
and we promoted it ourselves we built a website we um we ran ads uh yellow pages is really good
for cleaning companies tip tip because a lot of the people
that are using cleaning services happen to be older people. A lot of our clients were seniors
and the first place they go when they go online is Yellow Pages.
You still have it?
Do I still have what?
The company.
So, okay. So like I said said I promised myself because I didn't
want to be cleaning houses obviously like it's not my pride and joy it's not my passion um and
honestly telling people like they'd look at you like oh cool you're a house cleaner that's gross
um so it wasn't really like exciting by any means but I did enjoy parts of it, like helping people. That's a big
thing for me. Um, but I always told myself like, I'll do this until I don't have to anymore. And
now I'm kind of at the point where I don't have to, especially because now that I'm teaching
music lessons, I don't really have to, but I've kept on, uh, three clients that are extremely
flexible. So it's like, if they're like hey i need a clean
well one of them i do like bi-weekly and she's super relaxed about when so if i have something
i can be like hey i'm gonna come at this time instead or whatever um yeah i just kept like
really relaxed flexible clients on because if i can then i will i'll make sure if that's gonna
pay my groceries for the month um then yeah i'm gonna'm going to do it. So yeah, that's kind of where I'm at. But I'm mostly
teaching and mostly doing music, like live performances and my own creative stuff. So
that's where I'm at with that. What's up, Israel? Real quick, then James has his hand up. I did
cleaning houses too. I used to do them.
Well, I didn't do them myself.
I had to do them because we ran out of staff to clean houses.
So we were doing what was called bank-owned properties.
And so we had to clean them and rehab them and do all we had to do to make them marketable, right?
And also livable.
And we ran out of staff at one point.
And so I said, fuck it.
Let's go.
And so I got on my hands and knees i did a total of maybe i don't know maybe eight or ten houses throughout my throughout
that month or whatever and you know what i'm the type of person that i chop down trees i do heavy
lifting with my workouts i do all kinds of stuff i don't mind getting dirty but freaking a dude my
fingers were always hurting cleaning houses.
Oh, yeah.
Like I was like, man, this shit hurts and it bothers me.
But it humbles you as a realtor too because you're not always flashy.
I learned to get down and dirty if I had to.
And so there's a lot of respect coming out of that.
My mother used to clean houses too.
My aunt used to clean houses too for big names.
I'll tell you one name, The Rock, Dwayne Johnson.
She cleaned houses.
And I was like, my cousin got to go with them one day and he met them.
And I was like, take me, what the fuck?
Let me hook up with him.
Maybe he'll let me sell a house or some shit.
I don't know.
The point is um it's a
humbling experience and and uh i i think there's nothing wrong with that i was just gonna say
it'd be cool if you still had it and you plugged in with with uh with banks or if you plugged in
with a lot of uh brokerage like real estate brokerage because these fuckers are lazy yeah
and it's good money it's true absolutely like we if i if i wanted to because i the website still
exists i'm technically still advertising but i don't pay for any advertisement now i actually
get it's crazy word of mouth must be big or just getting into the algorithm and then like i'm not
even paying for advertisements anymore and i still get lots of inquiries for cleans. So if I wanted to,
there's the opportunity to scale it. I know I could scale it. I could hire,
hire CEO and just have a staff. Yeah. Hiring's okay, but I'd rather subcontract it.
I would much rather do that. I feel like that's a smart way to go about that because
then they have their own insurance. I don't have to pay their insurance. I don like that's a smart way to go about that because then they have their
own insurance. I don't have to pay their insurance. I don't have to pay EI. I don't have to put,
you don't have to pay as much into the company when you subcontract it because then your monthly
expenses go down. And that's, that's, that's Melody on business. Thank you.
be on business thank you I don't know I just I also don't have the energy or the time like I
want to pour everything I have into music so like for me to pour more energy into the cleaning
business I don't know I yeah there is option to scale and I could I always could it's always there
for you.
That service is never going to go away.
People hate cleaning shit.
And there's a whole lot of rich people out there that are just like,
there's one house.
I go there and it is clean, dude.
I walk in and I'm like,
it's actually harder to clean a house that's this clean because I need to make it look like there's a difference.
And it's hard because it's so clean it's so clean and they will pay bi-weekly for
house cleans because they're like yeah that's just what people do they get their house cleaned
that's like their life right that's the reality they're living. So yeah, it's always there. And I encourage people,
honestly, that market is big enough that everybody in this room, plus all of your
friends, there's so much demand for cleaning services that it's hard to even feel competitive
in that industry because there's just so much demand for it. Melody, same with car wash. So I have a, my son's best friend is opening a car wash with his father
and they were thinking of ways and how to market. And one of the things they hadn't thought of,
who to market to? I said, bro, go ahead and market apartments. You know, why apartments?
Because they don't have a yard to pull up their vehicle and wash it.
And so what I'm saying that.
Yeah, that's so true.
But what I'm saying is if in every business, there's ways, there's always a client for everything.
There's always a client for everything.
It doesn't matter what it is.
Yeah, you just have to be hungry.
that's why I think it's like getting out of your comfort zone um maybe it's like you're like I said
That's why I think it's like getting out of your comfort zone.
earlier it's you're expanding your horizons because you want to continue doing whatever it is you do
but sometimes you have to do other things to facilitate that um until you don't have to anymore
because it's not nothing is permanent absolutely nothing is permanent and it's like you got to kind
of set your ego aside sometimes.
Cause for a while there I was like, no, like I'm just a musician. Like I'm not going to do anything else. I'm just a musician. I just want to make music, man. But then I was like, okay,
that can only last so long until it doesn't like you, you kind of have to go through the faces of
life. And. Oh, absolutely. A big thing, like just of have to go through the phases of life.
And Oh, absolutely. A big thing, like just going back to what you and Israel was talking about before too, is like putting your ego aside. Like when I was starting out, like, cause basically
what I would do is I would, you know, I was, I was working for a construction company and then I
would, people would ask me, oddly enough, people would, people like at different construction
sites, like plumbers would ask me, Hey, do you like at different construction sites like plumbers
would ask me hey do you do drywall you know you want to come to my house and do this and yeah
sure so you get i get side jobs like that and that's the way i started out it was just doing
side jobs like working fucking you know 130 hours a fucking week because you know 80 hours a week
at my regular job and then like everything else but i remember one job in particular i went this
this elderly lady she was a neighbor of this house that we were working at um she asked me hey can you
come over to my place and put in some stone planters and do this in the backyard and whatever
i'm like yeah sure i could totally do that so i went over there one weekend you know planned it
all out bought the materials threw everything in my truck, headed over there. And I go to the backyard and it's littered with dog shit.
This lady has like,
she's probably 75,
80 years old,
two huge fucking Roddy's and there's dog shit all over the backyard.
So I picked up as much as I needed to,
to just get the job done.
Cause I had to like move,
cut some,
you know,
wedge some fucking soil out of there and level everything and blah, blah comes out after everything's done she's like that's beautiful
would you mind picking up the rest of the dog shit and i'm like you know what if you're gonna
pay me what you what you're gonna pay me like if if that's what yeah the rate's not gonna change i
will sure i will pick up dog shit i don't give a shit you know why but if you're gonna pay me the
same amount like as you're gonna if you're gonna pay me construction wages to pick up dog shit i don't give a shit you know why because if you're gonna pay me the same amount like as you're gonna if you're gonna pay me construction wages to pick up dog shit
that's a lot easier than doing mason work all day so yeah no problem and i instead and instead of
having like a six hour day i had like a 10 hour day there because by the time i got everything
cleaned up you know and bagged and whatever because i went to the aranda home depot bought
a bag of gloves and a dust mask or whatever or you're like a n95 i'm like okay yeah no problem went to the store blah
blah blah i'll pick that up spent two hours cleaning dog shit up you know and and i made
bank on that job i'm like i don't fucking care if you're gonna pay me that to do an easy job
no problem and like that's yeah you gotta have no ego it's so true you gotta like that's that's a
that's a business you could do for like you know um especially in like the colder places like here
in canada um you you let your dog out all winter right and then spring comes and you have to do
like a crazy cleanup right like you can't in the winter, it's really hard to actually maintain that. So springtime comes, you can pop up a business for those two months of the
year and charge pretty good money. Cause people don't like to do that stuff. And you could just
do that for two months on the side. And then you made, Oh my God, look at me. I made bank
just cleaning up. It's yeah. It's, yeah, it's just about.
It's good work, but it pays well.
Yeah, it's not glamorous.
There's a small business here in LA County.
There's a couple of them that do that.
They go around, no different from landscaping business, but dog poop business.
Yeah, we have one where I live.
They call themselves the poo crew.
I see little cars driving around all the time in the spring yeah bro danger you know what if i wasn't in real estate i wouldn't mind
doing that shit i mean it's good money absolutely it's not bad cleaning guys cleaning is a big one
especially um uh so outdoor this one's quick you can literally go door to door
and um again you have to put your ego aside you got to be like i can do this go door to door and um again you have to put your ego aside you got to
be like i can do this go door to door you get one of those power washers at the end of the the fall
or no end of the spring usually like your driveway and like your front yard is just like a mess right
power washers leaf blower whatever and you advertise as just like seasonal cleanup because everybody a lot of
the houses i noticed this was a common um ask of us when we did the cleaning business a lot of
people would love to have to just have the same person do it all if it's not like super crazy
landscaping you know what i mean like it doesn't require like a lawnmower and like all that kind of shit. Um, big property stuff. Right. But they, they were asking us,
they were like, Oh, can you like when springtime comes and it's almost summer, can you help us
like clean off our gazebo and like spray the deck? And, um, you know, Christmas time comes
around. They're like, can you help me put up my Christmas decorations? That's another seasonal business. You can literally for all of November, just go on.
There's this cool app called Nextdoor. I don't know if it's in the, I think it is in the States.
There's this cool, cool app called Nextdoor that shows you your like, the, it's just built to show
you the people surrounding you in your community. And you can go on and say, hey, you can put up a little ad.
And you can be like, I'm offering Christmas decorating services. Because again, the industry
is like seniors, they can't do that stuff for themselves. And some of them don't have family
that live close. But they still want to like participate in the season. So they need some help.
And yeah, and then you also get the joy of helping people.
Like you're like, you're actually doing something
to help somebody in that scenario.
I actually really enjoyed working for the seniors
because-
They're very appreciative.
Absolutely.
This one lady, I love her.
Like she texts me all the time.
I still will go do occasional cleans for her,
but she's like in Spain right now.
So she's like, yeah, you can go whenever.
Just go.
Like go clean.
One of the things is when you're in the cleaning business like that and they know you can trust you in their house, they will, they will more, they're more than happy to trust you to do stuff outside of their house when they're gone.
Like my brother.
Yeah, absolutely.
And my brother-in-law, he owns a, like, it's a Christmas light hanging business, and the
guy makes fucking bank doing that.
But he has, he gets contracts for, like, concert halls and, you know, malls and stuff like
that too.
But the majority of his clients, he says they're senior citizens that can't do it themselves,
but they want pretty Christmas lights up.
So, yep.
Yeah.
Lots of stuff like that.
You go to, you can go door to door.
You can be like, hey, I just put up your neighbor's Christmas lights.
Do you want me to do yours today?
I'll do it right now.
Yeah, the truck's here.
I got the bucket.
Let's go.
Like you're already here.
And you can say, hey, I'll give you a 10% discount because I'm already in the area.
I'm not going to try.
I won't charge you for the travel.
And then they're like, oh, a discount.
And then, yeah.
But the thing is, like, a discount. And then, yeah. And, but the thing is like,
you're doing, and it's independent. You don't have someone to answer to at the end of the day,
you wake up, you can wake up when you want to, you got to wake up early if you want to make
money though. Um, you're like still working independently. So it's even more fulfilling
because at the end of the day, you know, that you're not giving like giving away most of the income that you could
have earned. Right. Like at the end of the day, that's what it's about. It's like, how can I
maintain as much autonomy in this, in whatever it is I'm choosing to do. So that way I'm the one,
you know, making the money. Oh, absolutely. And like when, when I first started, like I've got,
I had eight guys, one guy quoted me. So I got seven guys that work for me right now, but you know, I got all the business insurance and all that other stuff. When I first started, like I've got, I had eight guys, one guy quoted me, so I got seven guys that work for me right now, but you know, I got all the business
insurance and all that other stuff. When I
first started, like actually having to hire guys
on, a lot of months
my fucking
employees would make more money than I
would. You know what I mean? Because if I don't
pay them, they're not coming back. So yeah,
I subcontract out as much as I can
too, Mel. Believe you, me.
Yeah.
Danger Devin gets it.
That's true.
Guys, I'll be back in a minute.
Sorry, I'm eating chocolate.
What kind of chocolate?
From brisket to chocolate, eh?
I'm eating Hershey's Kisses. From dog shit to brisket to chocolate I'm eating
Hershey's Kisses
From dog shit to brisket to chocolate
What kind of Hershey's Kisses
They're actually
The candy cane ones
Oh I love those
They're so good
Delicious
They were in my stocking this year
I would have eaten those already
i forgot about them very excited um whenever i find like christmas chocolate or easter chocolate
whatever it is oh easter chocolate is the best man easter Easter eggs. Do you guys have Easter eggs?
Cadbury Easter eggs?
Heck yes, girl.
So good.
Oh my god, Prez is here.
What's up, Prez?
There he is. What's up, Prez?
Hey, Prez.
Hey, what's up, yo?
Danger, you can go ahead. I can go after you. No, he was saying hey, Prez Hey what's up y'all Danger you can go ahead I can go after you
No he was saying hey Prez
No no go ahead buddy I've been talking all night
Alright just give me 5-10 seconds
Let me put my headsets on
Okay 5 seconds
My favorite are the
I like the
Perera Rochers and the Lt chocolates. Those are my favorites.
I love those. I don't like those that much. No? No. No? It's too fancy. No. No.
Okay, seriously speaking though, if you guys have never tried max brennan
the hot chocolate um you're missing out just saying
what is it max brennan in new york oh we might not have oh i think i know
hold on let me let me see i gotta look this up
prez you got your hand up they You ready to say something, bud? They have this little park called Bryant Park,
and they were serving, like, hot chocolate.
I swear to you, it's, like, the most richest, like...
Oh, it just tastes so good.
It's the best...
Besides my recipe, it's the best hot chocolate I've ever had.
You have to go try...
Oh, my God.
New York, I had some of the best hot chocolate.
I gotta look it up yeah
new york is the best one new york has great food too man when when i went there we were walking
down the street and there was this like big jamaican lady selling lemonade it was the best
lemonade i ever had it was so good like it was the perfect mix of sweet and sour
It's a perfect mix of sweet and sour.
I loved it.
I love sweet food like that.
Oh, it's called Mary Bell.
Mary Bell Cocoa Bar in Soho.
So good.
It's a bar?
Like an actual bar?
Like, okay, so you can go in and at the front,
there's just all their chocolate and all their desserts and stuff.
And then you can go to the back and it's like a tea bar kind of like aesthetic like you know like those like you know
afternoon tea kind of places i love those even though i hate yeah don't hate me but i do no but
this is a hot chocolate right right oh i love that straight up rachel's alley yeah oh it was delicious i remember saying i think he has a video of me i took my first sip
and i was like put this in my veins like i want to live on this shit wanted to mainline that shit
mainline this like oh my god it was so rich and so delicious. So good.
I love hot chocolate.
That's my favorite.
God, you're such a toy.
I swear.
I swear, we really are like... We have a way.
We have a way about us.
It's because when we taste things, it's like we just taste it with like...
Okay, wait, let me ask you a question.
When you eat good food, because this is what i'm known for
this is like a trait of me um but i wonder if it's for you too when i eat good food if it's
really good like i'm loud about it like oh yeah oh this is so good i am i that's me Yes So our senses are like
Man we're ruled by Venus
So it's like for us it's all about the senses
What smells pretty
What tastes good you know
What feels good
That's why you like being comfy
And you're
Blinky
I love that shit
We're little homebodies I live i am i'm a homebody for sure
if i can stay home i'll stay home but i also love like i'm a social homebody because when i do go
out i like to socialize like i think it's also just being a musician is part of that like
going out and playing music being around people but yeah oh prez is ready
what's up prez
what's up everybody what's good danger i hope everyone's doing well first and foremost
uh black tea is good for the lungs you know what i'm saying so rachel you need to get on that grind
you can put a little bit of cocoa in there or a little bit of coffee.
I don't know.
But we'll get you to the tea side at some point.
I hope so.
My whole family has tried my whole life.
I used to throw it.
My poor mother, she fixes.
Well, she used to fix everything with, like, tea.
And so she would, like, you're sick.
Your stomach hurts.
Hold on. Let me get you some tea. And I would just pretend like I was drinking it and pour it down the toilet and I'm done
I know it sounds terrible but I can't do it I would gag I would love tea I'm kind of in a tea
phase right now like it used to be in a coffee phase that lasted forever uh and then i got sick and i was like similar to your mom i
would i make tea when i'm sick but um we got this new black tea well it's a golden tea i guess that's
what it's marketed as and i oh my god now i'm just on this tea kick and i've noticed that the
caffeine because it apparently tea has more caffeine yes it does it's good though because
but it doesn't feel as jittery you know what i mean like it's not like i don't get like that
like tenseness that i get with coffee is that just me it's good for you though tea is good for you
tea is very good for you and like you know you can always incorporate different things so like
what you said about the um the golden piece i think there's even like
golden milk whereby you can incorporate turmeric or ginger powder and stuff like that so i think
that goes well with the tea but i wanted to come up and say uh first and foremost to both mel and
bridget i appreciate y'all pulling through to that space it was much needed i saw y'all we all saw
y'all and uhella, whenever you want to
sing and you want to tap in, definitely do so because Simone Louise definitely appreciated
your presence as well in that space. And one thing I wanted to chime in on, I wanted to chime
in on what the homie Iz was speaking on in relation to relationships and networking, right?
Because I think it is important because you do, like,
you never know how someone can help you out in your future ventures. And so I think the call
to action here would be, don't take the relationships you have for granted because,
again, you just never know how they can impact your story and your future success moving forward.
In Swahili, there's a saying whereby they say,
In Swahili, there's a saying whereby they say,
which means looking at someone with like a laser fair or a casual attitude,
maybe because of where they're at in their here and now stage as it pertains to status.
When I was back in my undergrad days, I used to work facilities.
And so that had to do with a lot of cleaning.
So I had to clean multiple buildings, But usually there was just one designated building. And it was the building that I was primarily working in was the largest building in the university campus.
So I would take trash out from professors offices. Then we would have deep cleaning projects throughout the building as well, such as windows, toilets, staircases, you name it.
And I was working a night shift from like 3 to 11.30 p.m. By the way, night shifts are
not good for your lifespan. So keep that in mind, guys. But, you know, my point is, I sincerely hope
you and Israel can connect more in the future and you can gain further insights in his experiences
as a realtor. And who knows, maybe you can come up with a business plan or model in the future
whereby you can be a CEO and have staff working for you in the future.
You know, we talked about the Ikigai method in the last episode, I believe.
And so I think in doing so, you'd be simultaneously balancing what you want to do, which is the music stuff and going with the title of your space up here.
That would be a way of keeping and maintaining your soul, coupled with, you know, other lucrative opportunities that can help propel you as well as a form of keeping and maintaining your soul coupled with you know other lucrative opportunities that
can help propel you as well as a form of monetization so that's just what i want to do
offer and chime in on the space thank you is appreciate that hope everyone's well hope you're
doing well is in the family as well but yeah mel i just wanted to share that to you, if that makes sense. But yeah. Yeah, it does.
It does.
It's always good to connect with people that, you know, have some experience in what it
is you do or what you're aspiring to do, whatever you're working on, because they can have some
insight, especially because I'm definitely in a place where, as I'm sure you kind of
gathered, I'm in a place where I'm like, I don't know if I can handle that right now.
Like, I already have a bunch of other stuff going on.
But maybe it is possible.
Maybe it'll be in my future.
Who knows?
Gotta keep an open mind.
Absolutely.
But thanks for coming through.
And yeah, I'll definitely come up into your space and sing
at some point um I was happy to be there I was just working like I messaged you in the background
I was just working on troubleshooting audio all day literally like I think literally all day it
was insane um and we're still not done so we'll see what happens. But yeah, I was just in the background.
Troubleshooting, getting things together.
I don't know if you were in here when I was saying I'm going to start.
I used to be a Twitch streamer.
And now I'm going to start streaming on Twitch and YouTube again.
So I'll do live music.
Some other stuff too.
Just like hanging out, chatting. maybe stuff like this where it's just
like a community kind of stream and I used to play some games so I'm gonna do that again soon
just getting everything set up it could literally be as soon as like this coming week but we'll see
how the audio troubleshooting goes and And then on top of that,
like that's another reason why I'm not really cleaning
as much as I was before.
I'm also working on getting this album out.
So that is obviously still coming.
It's a process, but it's so close.
It's so close and I'm very excited about it I love how things are shaping up
but that's another thing that I just kind of had to decide on this this past couple years it's just
like what do I need to sacrifice in order to be able to achieve that goal because for the longest
time I was like just not in a position to be able to do that timing wise.
So yes, that has been a priority for me.
And I'm really excited about it.
Album coming soon.
But how are you, Prez?
What are you working on creatively right now?
Oh, man.
Right now, I'm just trying to stay alive. I'm gonna be honest um based on where i'm currently
based at but other than that uh just you know this is actually my last semester of courses
my ma program which is scary to think about and then i have to start thinking about my next steps
practicum wise right so like doing a year of pre-licensed therapy stuff
and again i don't even necessarily want to be a therapist but um and i'm also thinking about like
other things i've been working on maybe i might pursue again this is a huge maybe because i'm not
fully set on that but i've already like come up with my thesis my abstract my everything
it's just a question of if i can get scholarships but But if it isn't my future, then yeah, maybe I'll go the PhD route, you know. But as far as like
creative stuff, being in Karamea space the other day and having homegirl Rachel and everybody else
that was there, they heard my bars, you know what I'm saying? And just their reflections back to me
really, really motivated me, you know what I'm saying and just their reflections back to me really really motivated me you know what i'm saying so kind of like you mella like sometimes
i'm like do i have time for this i know i want to do this but i don't know if i have time but then
it goes back to that self-talk right so i hope this year i can intentionally work on a project
i want to work on a ep for sure i hope hope I can find a way to fit that in and
obviously get the right people who can mix and master. And I know we got some creative friends
in these spaces that can help out with that. And other than that, also just being anchored in the
now. I think it's important to think about the future, but future-oriented thinking can lead
to catastrophization, which is anxiety, and then it can lead to less action
So i'm trying to stay present with what I got going on right now as far as school
And then yeah, you know hosting spaces. Uh, I do have a couple of spaces coming up
You know, I have one on wednesday
On global unity part two, you know, the people wanted me to do that. So I was like, all right, cool
We'll do part two
And I have another space coming up, which I won't announce yet. Should I? No, I actually
already put it out there because he's had me put my links there. So now I do have another one
coming up very, very soon in February with the homie AJ and Mr. A on the ambition pivot. And it
kind of ties to this topic as well, talking about our goals and stuff like that. So I'm just going to, as far as creative or creative ventures, I think I'm just
limiting it to X spaces for now. But like, as far as like music and whatever, you know, we'll see
what comes around in the future, but I'm always down for collaboration, always down to work with
people who are willing to work with me as well. And I'm also not trying to
think too far ahead as well, because I know I need to be anchored in the very now moment. So
I hope I answered your question. Yeah, that's awesome. I mean, I get that. Like,
it's, I feel like part of your creative work too, is it sounds like you're just really passionate
about what you're studying. And like, a thesis is a piece of creative work as well so um like the fact that you're
advancing your knowledge and like just leveling up in your um area of expertise that's that's huge
so like dedicating yourself to that um totally makes sense and it's admirable.
But I obviously would love to hear more music.
I want to hear some, some Prez speaking so truthfully, authentically, and like eloquently in the way that you create. so i hope to hear more of that in the future
love prez's stuff thank you i appreciate that mella yeah definitely man everybody stay tuned
hopefully some things will come out in the future but you know like i said i'm just uh sticking to
the present but i've been working on some stuff, just some rough ideas, been writing a little bit.
It's kind of like riding a bike because the last FOMO project I dropped was back in 2024.
And it was like rough, right?
Like I had this cheap ass phone, did my own mixing and mastering, and I don't even know how to do that.
And I tried my best.
I even had some of my own beats that I made for that tape.
But I just wanted to have
content out there. And now that I was able to get that out of the way, I feel like now it's a
stepping stone for me to actually work on a formal project, even if it's just a five to seven track
EP. And yeah, man, you know, and I, you know, back to the education piece too, some of the best
education I gain is from you guys and what you guys share and the life
experiences that I get to hear from you. So much so that I think I've been able to apply that even
with how I relate to my peers in my classes as well. Not that I share you guys' business or
anything, but I feel like I don't go by the educational convergent way of thinking when it comes to things and I also don't
want to fulfill that stereotype that oh everybody that's in education is just institutionalized and
they only think one way you know and I think by me being in spaces such as this and being around
the likes of y'all it helps me to bridge that gap as well and maybe hopefully bridge that gap for
them for people who look down going back to what I had said, mentioned earlier in relation to status, right?
People who look down, people who don't have a quote unquote education as well.
So that's kind of like my MO, man.
Like, how can I create balance between the two?
How can I reconcile the two?
And then, you know, maybe music can also be another avenue in doing that as well.
So, yeah, I appreciate that, Mela.
Stay tuned. Yeah, I will. I'm excited. be another avenue in doing that as well so yeah i appreciate that mella stay tuned yeah i will
i'm excited i feel like you are um you're on your path it just sounds like you're so like
attuned you sound aligned bro that's the best hippie shit i've ever said bro you sound so aligned i love it i love it i could be totally wrong but you sound
aligned um let's check in with james james you've been up here for a while and i i swear if there's
hands up i apologize because i can't see anybody's hands there's no hands in my world unfortunately
so let's check in with james what's up james now i don't see any hands either
okay cool so we're just chilling it's all been a good conversation a couple things i just wanted
to jump in on was when aj was talking about um the ad spend uh and he said his return i wanted
to know if that included the return of the thousand investment, or if that was, you know,
was it just a $400 return from the thousand?
That question.
Another thing is I thought of like when you were telling about your story
with the house cleaning and that extreme hoarding case,
that would actually make an excellent music,
an excellent song, a theme for a song and a video
if that was like when you and your husband
were starting out trying to raise
money for, you know,
your passion and how
that may have affected. You know what I'm saying?
You could probably tie a theme
into that and use it for a fundraiser
to help something out for people
like that. I don't know. Just stupid
thoughts that went in my head.
That's about it.
And yeah.
Sorry.
I love that.
I love that.
Yeah.
Like if a song, if a song pops up with that,
I say pops up because it always feels like I'm just like,
oh my God, I have a song.
I just wrote a song. I can't believe it. If a song pops up because it always feels like I'm just like, oh, my God, I have a song. I just wrote a song.
I can't believe it.
If a song pops up with that theme or like something that aligns with that, that could totally be a cool little.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I see what you're saying.
You could look at it from the perspective of like what literally drives someone to do that.
Why are they so afraid to get rid of things?
So afraid to release, you know, whether it's because, you know,
it belonged to a loved one or they're just a damn hoarder.
And, you know, you could probably just cover a couple of bases with a few
verses and just nail a point across.
Yeah.
Honestly, there's been a lot of,
there's been a lot of really profound
moments um in my like cleaning houses journey um just like so for example one couple that we
cleaned for such like beautiful people just like the most caring and giving and just real authentic people. They were in their 80s.
And I remember like the second time we cleaned their house, maybe a third time,
they like invited us to sit down for dinner with them. Like we would chat. They'd always ask us
about our music because we told them we were like, yeah, we're just musicians that clean houses so we don't starve.
And, like, they just wanted nothing but success for us.
And they were so interested in our music that, you know, like, they asked us to sit down for dinner.
They talked to us. Turns out they knew, like, an entertainment attorney that was really, really good. And
they connected me with that entertainment attorney and they were able to help me for free
for some, like, they literally were like, here, you need help with this.
Here's our entertainment attorney. Cause the Bruce was his name. He was a, um,
what was he? He was basically like the guy that would get royalty deals for, for authors like
books. And, um, so he was already kind of like in the industry and he had connections and we were
talking about just something that was going on with me. Like, I think it was like someone offered
something to me, whether it was a label or a management company or like a booking agency,
I can't remember, but it was something that I was like, I don't know, is this too good to be true?
I feel like I need an entertainment attorney and they connected me with theirs. I can't remember, but it was something that I was like, I don't know, is this too good to be true? I feel like I need an entertainment attorney. And they connected me
with theirs. And to this day, I don't even know if they paid him. I have no idea. All I know is
this guy gave me free legal advice and, um, they were just like the most kind people. Um,
um, and then Bruce passed away. Like he got really, um, he had, he was having memory loss and we got, like, we saw him a
few times before they ended up saying like, Hey, this is getting so bad that we can't
have you in the house because he, he was panicking.
Like he was just, sometimes when people have that happening, whether it's dementia or Alzheimer's, they end up very afraid and nothing's making sense.
So it's kind of hard to have people in the house.
So that's what was happening with him. basically like you can come back when you know it was really sad she was just like he's he's not
going to be here much longer and we'll have you back when he's not around anymore and I was like
oh my god that's so sad because he was so invested he would he's like I'm gonna come to your show
I got to know Bruce on like a crazy level it felt I felt like kind of like a caretaker for him in
some ways because I was there for him
when, you know, she would go out and go grocery shopping and he'd start panicking because he
couldn't remember that she left. So I had to like, it's okay, Bruce, I'm going to go get you some
water. There was one point where he thought he OD'd on his meds and she wasn't home. She went,
she would use the opportunity that we were there to go run her errands.
So he thought he overdosed on his meds.
And he was panicking.
Like, he's like, I need you to call 911.
I remembered Christine telling me, like, don't worry about, like, he's going to say something about his meds.
Don't worry. Like, it is impossible for him to overdose on the meds that he's taking.
Like, he'd have to take a shit ton.
So she, she reassured me.
So I remember calling her and being like, Hey, I don't know what to do.
And she's just like, yeah, he's fine.
He ended up being fine.
It was a really weird position to be in.
Cause I'm like, do I call an ambulance?
But he ended up being fine.
But that whole day turned into, um, instead of cleaning their house, it was me
like taking care of him. And then Dakota was cleaning the house. So it was a very unique
experience. Um, and then, yeah, he, we didn't clean for them for a few months, to be honest.
And then I got a message from Christine a few months later and she said,
And then I got a message from Christine a few months later, and she said she wanted to let us know that Bruce had passed away.
Yeah, it was just, it's weird.
I didn't expect that kind of experience going into cleaning.
And, like, I cried over a client, you know?
Like, I really, it hurt me that he passed away.
Because I'd get to his
house and every single time he'd say the same thing. He's a, um, how would he say it? Oh, he
said, he'd say, Hey young lady, how are you doing? And I'd say, I'm great, Bruce. How are you?
And then he'd go, I'm on top of the world. Every time.
And there was one time Christine goes,
Bruce, you need to get a new saying.
I'm sick of that.
Stop it.
And I just thought it was so funny.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Anyways, I could definitely write a few songs about my cleaning journey,
cleaning houses.
It was just a lot more, um,
just a lot more like profound moments than I anticipated there to be for sure.
That's a beautiful story.
Yeah. I miss Bruce. He's, he was really, really a special man. He kept saying he wanted to come
to my Toronto shows. Anytime I played in Toronto, he goes, where are you playing again? And I'd be
like, I'm playing at the horseshoe tavern. He's goes, Oh, the horseshoe. I used to go there when
I was a young buck. Oh my God. He was so funny. And then I'd say okay I'm gonna be playing there on Friday
whatever day it was and he'd say I'm gonna be there I'm gonna make Christine drive me
but then she'd always text me and say hey I know Bruce wanted to come but he's not doing well it
was just so sad it was so sad but I really I enjoyed cleaning for them because we always had
wonderful conversations and um I learned a lot from them. We got into like political conversations and learning from people in their 80s.
and having those conversations and talking about the world with people older than me significantly
was so eye-opening because they offer a perspective that none of us like we can't
we can't get that perspective we have not seen as much as they have so that's when my mind it
opened my mind to a lot of things like I started to see the world differently. Like it's crazy what can happen when you just kind of expose yourself to new, um, avenues of supporting yourself, because even if
it's cleaning, even if it's like the, not, not the most fancy or glamorous job. Um, but you can
learn so much about just like the world and life and, um, lessons that you, you might not learn
otherwise or might take you longer.
Oh, yeah.
You can go to school and pay for it, but you can't buy experience like that.
Absolutely.
At least that's my experience.
I don't know.
It's an interesting world and got to have an open mind
because there's so many perspectives out there.
But yeah, so it's approaching 11 o'clock. I like to run the space for a couple hours and then call
it a night so that way we can, you know, get a good sleep before Monday morning comes. Usually
it ends up being blackpilled by AJ, particularly by AJ's and the listeners.
pilled by AJ particularly
AJ's and for listeners
so I don't know if anybody
has any like closing thoughts on
monetizing and keeping your soul
anything else we talked about tonight
we can go around and get those closing thoughts
and see what
people I feel like Bridget was one of the very
first people that I spoke to this evening
so maybe let's circle back to Bridget.
I love the conversation tonight.
I love how it ran into cooking and recipes.
And one of my favorite things that Rachel gets so excited about is cocoa.
I love how much you love cocoa.
and I trust you when you say it's good or not good.
And I trust you when you say it's good or not good.
And Mella, I just thank you for,
thank you for the space.
Really, honestly, you guys have made this space.
Danger, you too.
Everyone that's come up to talk, Israel,
Perez, of course, AJ,
and then I see Momo and Tim down there.
I love you guys.
It has been, it's been really good.
And I love getting
to learn how people are thinking and think of things in a different way. Like hearing Israel
and you go back and forth was really helpful. And then Casey also appreciate your input, but yeah.
And thank you for letting me be vulnerable because that's what I did. And I have to practice that because I have a tendency to want to just like hold all the private stuff in and not share.
So, yeah, but I'm grateful for this space.
It's been really supportive.
Why don't you and AJ combine forces
Bridget.
And channel together
What is it?
Three-Eye Atlas?
And have them pick us up
Let's go
Aren't they already gone?
I'm just kidding
I don't know, I lost track, I forgot
I don't know where it is either
I was talking, okay
I know you want to close my,
like,
can I tell us a story?
Cause it might be five minutes or do you want me to save it?
Oh no,
don't worry.
I was honestly saying like,
okay,
maybe we should make closing statements.
Cause I wasn't sure if people still wanted to,
you know,
continue.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
Like I'm,
I'm cool.
And it's only 10 56.
I don't need to go to bed anytime soon.
Let me give you a quick opinion
on the monetizing thing before she tells
her story.
Just make sure whatever you put
to pen, whatever you put to recording
or everything, the whole nine yards,
make sure, number one,
your publishing is together,
your copyrights are together,
et cetera, et cetera etc before you release it to an extent you can put a new release but even if you do a poor man's copyright whatever
it takes i think you could do a lot of the filing online now make sure you cover your ass on both
publishing and in uh copyrights which would, which would include, you know,
your ASCAP membership, stuff like that, where you have to have a writer and a publisher and you
own your own publishing company, all that shit. Just make sure everything is locked in on your
end legally because that's, that's my, like, I, I do that. My music is all, like, I'm on SoCan.
That's the Canadian PRO.
So I'm on SoCan.
And then I have a, I think it's ASCAP.
That's my American one.
And then I also, yeah, I make sure that I'm being compensated fairly for the, what's it called?
Distribution, publishing, all that fun stuff.
So yeah, I appreciate that though.
Like that, that could apply to so many people in the room.
So if you're out there and if you're putting stuff out, uh, and that you deserve royalty
money for, you should absolutely make sure.
Sorry.
I don't know if you guys can hear this.
I like, I have my keyboard muted. It's like my fidget toy I just practice silently
but yeah it's probably making weird noises but yeah no absolutely I go
through the written word as well of course if you write a book you write
poetry and stuff like that as well we're not specifically talking about music
it's anything artistic,
make sure you're legally covered with all the right, you know, everything you need to be so
you own it. Absolutely. Yeah, thanks for that. Bridget, I would love to hear your story.
It's just because it's a three-eye atlas. So what I do for a living, just for anyone that doesn't know me, one of the things that I do is quantum hypnotherapy.
And really, I get to help people with a lot of different things, right?
Help people dive into their subconscious and connect with their super consciousness.
And I work with a lot of people who, I guess, would identify as starseed or something like that, right? And
often I get to sit and have chats with beings from other dimensions, right? It's so fun to hear
all the different things that they express. But in one of them, I was working with someone that I love.
I love her so much. And two light beings came in. And there's a long story with all of it,
but I was sitting there just really cutting it up with them. And they're literally like
13th or 14th density, right? So they're very high frequency
beings. I call everybody people. And we were talking about things obviously for my client,
but also they were just expressing different things for her to listen back to and potentially
share with other people in the world. And you guys know how I am.
I'm kind of jovial, right?
Like I laugh a lot and make jokes.
And so I'm like making jokes with them.
They're making jokes back.
It was actually really, really fun conversation.
And all of a sudden, one of her questions was about 3i Atlas.
And these other beings come in.
The mood totally changes.
They're like super serious.
And they come in and they're just like, I mean, it was like night and day, right?
And they're like, the message that they had, I actually put it out on YouTube because they
asked me to share it, was, you guys just need to calm down.
The whole message.
And I tried to make a joke because, you know, I was just having fun in the previous conversation
and they were not having it. So it wasn't like they were mean or anything, but they
were very serious. Like they needed this message to come across right then. So yeah, it was pretty
funny, but the message was, you know, we're doing our work just like you are there. Everybody just
needs to calm down and know that there's a bigger picture.
And so that was my experience with Three-Eye Atlas from the beings. And they called themselves
when I asked if they had a name, because usually they don't have names, right? They will create a
name that is resonant for us or that is symbolic. And the name they came up with, I could have never guessed in a million years, but it was the emperors. And it wasn't like we are going to rule anything.
So I immediately, my thought was like, wait, like the tarot card? And I said that out loud
and they were like, yes. And so immediately I thought of Rachel and Steph. And I was like,
tell me what you know about the em after the session but um yeah so that's
my story about the three atlas beings I mean other than my connecting with them in different
with the consciousness that that is but really they were just doing their job like they're
supposed to be doing just like a lot of us here are doing that's crazy it's so fun I love what I do I love how like I feel like
it's like something that I would just assume is very like serious you know but you're like no
we're just joking just hanging out joking around I mean I get of course I do my job right um and I
get I know yeah I get to help my clients I get to get information for them they They come with a list of questions, that kind of a thing, right?
We get all the information for the healing.
Really, it's a lot about healing and expansion, right?
But at the same time, I have a good time doing it a lot of the times.
There are some beings that come through that are, including high selves, that are not very chatty.
Or they want to just get straight to the point which is
fine right um but when there's someone like them like iris um that was her name when there's someone
like iris i was like yes this is so much fun and she was actually bringing in a lot of the fun too
so i follow the lead love it a lot but yeah it was crazy it was so good but if you want to hear that message you
guys go to youtube they were so serious and then after they left i was talking to iris again
the light being and she's a solar connected being and i was talking to her and i was like
they were so serious and i was like they were exasperated. She was like, yes, people think that just because we're in a higher dimension, we don't have moments like that.
She was like, but we do.
And I was like, yes, I love that.
That's so much fun.
I love that.
It was so fun.
I always say this.
I wish I had a day.
I want like a week in Bridget's mind.
I want to be Bridget.
We can trade bodies.
Or wait, no, trade brains?
I don't know.
I guess it would be brains.
We can just connect telepathically.
There we go.
Yeah.
I just, yeah.
So interesting.
So intriguing.
I love it.
It's a wild ride up in here it is i bet it sounds like it
um i need to get back and you just remind me every time we talk i'm like
man i should get back into lucid dreaming i was like practically actively practicing
because i think that's like it's I don't know it feels like a
first step it opens doors for you within your own soul information right you can access you first
you really learn about your will and how to use it in lucid dreaming and how easy things are
to I want to I don't want to use the word manifest because it's not the same as like manifestation that
everybody thinks. But, and yeah, it'll start opening your abilities as well. Whenever you
start practicing anything like that, especially in today's energetics, it doesn't take much to to start to really expand.
Highly recommend, Mella.
So yeah, I need to incorporate this into my practice again.
The things I'm working on, I would love to. There's also, I've been so interested in further exploring,
what's it called? The hemis the hemisink hemisink yes um and the
there's like audio that you can get from the monroe institute i believe uh like by binaural
but binaural beats is that does that ring a bell to anybody?
Yeah, you can get that.
All the hemi-syncs are online as well.
You can find them in multiple places.
But yeah, I tried the, oh God,
I had a friend on the other audio only app
that gave me all of her hemi-sync stuff.
And I had a headache for like three days off the first one
that she sent me and then she realized that I was starting in in the middle or something and she was
like oh wait I didn't send you the right stuff oh my gosh but I was like what's going on I can
definitely feel both of my hemispheres like it's a very strange sensation. You can feel one being activated, then the other, and then it blends.
For those of you that are very tuned into your body, you'll feel it.
Oh, I need to.
They are.
They're just expensive.
I remember looking at the website.
Um, actually let me pull it up right now.
Actually, let me pull it up right now.
Chemisync Biobates Monroe Institute.
Um, I just remember looking it up and being like, whew, this better work.
Uh, I'm so curious.
Yeah.
Okay. yeah okay so it is like five it's over five hundred dollars five to seven
hundred dollars is what it looks like so it's like it's a commitment it's not
like you're just like downloading a few beats here it's like a whole system that they walk you through fully backed by science
and also there's like a CIA document about this because the CIA worked with
the Monroe Institute to conduct studies on astral projection and all a bunch of stuff like they were they were trying to
study consciousness through the Monroe Institute's I guess methods so yeah it's
interesting um if you want to check it out it's hemi-sync, I've, I mean the reviews I've seen on it, people are saying it's like
actually mind blowing. Like it's, it's just super peaceful. It's a great way to meditate,
but it also can facilitate like other experiences like astral projection,
or if you're working on lucid dreaming or something like that um yeah this is not a
sponsored ad i've known people to have contact uh not physical but um consciousness contact with
with the beings that their soul is connected with as well by using hemisync it's very cool
we used to have um different spaces on the other app,
and Hemisync came up a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot.
Yeah, very cool.
I'm interested.
Maybe that's something I'll start this year.
Could be worth it, you know?
Could be worth it.
I have a feeling I would feel it.
I'm very auditory.
So basically what it's doing
is playing two different frequencies at the same time.
One in your left ear, one in your right ear.
You say you have to do it with headphones on
and then they start to blend.
Like you can, it feels like you're on that wave, that frequency wave.
And it's like asking your brain to do something that it doesn't usually do.
So, very interesting.
By the way, I posted up top the link to the Bloom Room community on school.
So if you want to join it's free you can
join for free um there are obviously uh different levels to the membership but the the community
itself is free um and by being a part of it i'm basically going to take like these prompts
that i'm using for these spaces um and that's like one of the things that we're gonna do each week is I'm gonna
post the prompts and then people can discuss on there and then also there's
there's a lot more to it so you can go have a look if you want just click the
link but like I said it is free to join my goal is to just build up a community
of people that are going to be actionable in their dreams and their pursuits and they're bettering themselves to be more, you know, sovereign and independent and stay authentic.
So if anybody's interested in joining over there, I encourage you to go check it out.
It's free.
Yo, it's 11.11 in someone's time zone. I just wanted to say that. It's free. Yo, it's 1111 in someone's time zone.
I just wanted to say that.
It's 1111 in my time zone.
My dream.
My dream.
I love this kind of stuff.
I know you're not supposed to tell people your wish
when it's 11 11 but I think we all know um that's my one of my big goals for this year is to build
up this community because I've wanted to do it for so long and then I found school because
Billy Carson is a baller and told me about this platform and I just I don't know I look up to a lot so I took him seriously
and I checked it out and it looks really cool so I'm excited I encourage other people to go check
it out maybe you could build a community maybe we can help each other build a bunch of communities
on school that would be cool get away from the algorithm this is not algorithmic this is like
real real community building it is not likeic. This is like real, real community
building. It is not like shit. There's no shit posting. There's none of that stuff. It's all
just like dedicated space for, um, authenticity in my eyes. And it's cool because, um, it's such
a new platform that it's actually really,
like it feels really tight knit and connected,
like based on what I've experienced in it so far.
It feels tight knit and connected a lot like Spaces.
And there's a lot of cool stuff on there.
Like when I was going through,
there's probably going to be communities that I joined.
Like I'm going in the discovery thing and I'm like,
oh, that's a cool one and that's a cool one.
And there's just like a whole lot of knowledge that you can gain from
these these platforms so I encourage you to go check it out you never know there could be an
opportunity there for you and go check out Billy Carson's because I'm you girls tempted
I'm probably gonna end up joining Billy Carson's.
I'll plug that right now, what's it called?
It's on the front page, of course.
Oh, Forbidden Knowledge Academy.
That's what his community is called on X, or on X.
I mean, yes on X, but also on school. on X but also on school the forbidden like for
the number four Bidin knowledge Academy on school and it looks like a pretty
big community community there's like 1.7 thousand members in there so it could
be cool you might meet some cool people you never know I don't know what do we
what do we want to do Danger Devin you want to play a song
do you feel like jamming
uh yeah well actually
while the space was going on I just
finished editing on my computer
my newest song that I started
writing today at 11 o'clock called It's Fucking
Cool do you want to hear it
I absolutely
the fuck would it's absolutely
ridiculous okay here goes can you hear it okay Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I used to think the weather here wasn't so bad but this has gotta be the coldest winter I ever had
it's fucking cold!
I tried to book a plane flight to Dubai, but they said it's too cold for the planes to fly! It's fucking cold!
I thought I was prepared! I thought I had a plan, but I'm outside for 10 minutes and I look like a snowman.
It's fucking cold.
I called my friend in Chicago to see if my phone still worked.
I said, how's the weather, buddy?
He said, shut up, you jerk.
It's fucking cold.
I snuck my face out the front door and froze my nose.
I looked down at my feet and had ten black toes.
It's fucking cold!
It never was this bad before.
It's usually a nice place, so I blame the chemtrails and that fucker Bill Gates.
It's fucking cold.
It's 58 below.
That's not normal, man.
So I know that global warming is a fucking scam.
It's fucking cold.
It's colder than the Arctic. it's making me deranged.
I'm sitting here freezing saying, bring on climate change, it's fucking cold!
It's fucking cold and cold bro It is so fucking cold
I need that song
I would like a personal copy
That was so so so good
I didn't want it to stop
It's two minutes and
40 seconds long so yeah it's not a long one
But it gets the point across
It's so good it's so vibey i love it i wanted to make it grungy you know
yeah like that scream damn scream at us he yells at us all the time
it's like he slaps us with his voice
that's a good way to put it stop hitting me danger stop Collaps us with his voice. That's awesome.
That's a good way to put it.
Stop hitting me, Danger.
Stop.
It hurts.
But on a more serious note, if you wanted, I promised you I would play you Melody Save the World.
So if you want, I can play that one.
Oh, I would love that.
That would be amazing.
I would love that so would be amazing I would love that so much She'd sneak out of her house late at night, she'd grab her guitar and she'd take fights
To the treehouse her daddy had built her when she was mine
She'd sing and write songs all night long, but she'd practice until she couldn't get them wrong
She never knew one day that the whole world would sing along. Life was so simple in those days.
What she knew, my love of music, was no phase.
Oh, phase.
She knew who she was,
and what she had to do,
and she seemed to do.
Then one day she grew up and she moved out to a small apartment in her town
She thought this little room is just perfect for me
But the walls were thin, folks said keep it down
Stop that noise, girl girl you're way too loud
But she never let that hate interfere with her dream
So every night she'd sneak on down those stairs to the photo room
Where no one could hear you
She'd sing it right for hours like she used to do
And she'd sing
Then one morning everything went wrong Gunfire rang out bombs started to fall
People rang and screamed out this is the end of us all
But that sweet girl knew what she had to do She grabbed her guitar and a pipo too
Strapped it to her back and climbed up to that apartment room
She started to play the laughter of voice It rose above the smoke and the rose
She sang all day, she sang all night She sang until nobody wanted to fight it Nobody ever heard her voice so pure
And as she sang her song became a pure
And that's the day that Nicela, saved the world.
I can't talk right now. Woohoo!
Oh my gosh.
Danger Devin! Jeez, dude. I feel honored. Truly honored.
Well, such a beautiful song, too.
Well, like I said, Mella, I don't think it's, it might be the first song that's been written about you, but it won't be the last.
Especially, especially if you do what I'm about to do and join her school community.
Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah.
Woo.
That's awesome.
Yeah, I've gotten a few people join so far.
I appreciate it, guys.
It's free to join.
So if you want to kind of take your participation in the Bloom Room to the next level and like actually kind of be involved, um, in like an ongoing
conversation and an ongoing like pursuit to reach our biggest potential, our greatest potential.
Um, that's what I'm, I'm hoping to achieve with that. So thank you for joining to those that
have joined. Um, I'm excited. It's, it's only going to get... It's up only from here.
I just literally opened it up yesterday after debating it for a while.
So I remember saying to you guys at the beginning when I started this space,
I said I want to have a way of us continuing this outside of spaces
because a lot of us, we come here and talk about these things,
but we got to actually like act on them and it would be cool to have a way to
um like hold each other accountable learn from each other um and just like be on that path
together so this is the way that i'm choosing to do that i was grappling with a few different
options platform wise but i think school school cool. You're not too cool for school.
That was corny. I love it.
You're not too cool for school. Oh my gosh. Another request. Look at this. You guys actually are listening.
This is cool.
I'm in.
I think.
Woo!
If you approved me.
I did.
You're in.
I see you.
I saw something behind the egg screen that looked like confetti or something.
Yep.
It's happening.
It's happening.
Were you already on school, Brid Bridget I actually heard about it from
my husband we've been I've been on mighty so my private community has been on mighty network for
two years now and um I'm looking for another place because we don't use all the functionality there and it's really expensive. So, um, I, when I,
how do you mind me asking how expensive that, that platform is? Well, there's multiple tiers.
I'm on like the third one, I think. Um, so yeah, I mean, it's in the grand scheme of things. It's
not that expensive when you have a lot of people, my community is pretty small. It's like 30 people, right?
We've just been really deeply like diving deep with each other and expanding and everyone's stepping into their purpose and all of that, right?
So I feel like that's what that particular group was for.
And I want to expand.
So it's time. So I've been, I heard, I was in that, that space. And I heard Billy talk about school and my husband had already mentioned school. The cool thing about school is that it looks like there's already like, you know, a bit of marketing built in, in that first landing page where people can search you and find you, which the other communities don't have, right? So I like that. I don't know,
I'm still investigating. I also really like circles. So I don't know. I'm going to figure
it out. Yeah, it's cool, because apparently, and I've been watching, I was doing some research on
school. And apparently, the average, when it comes to new members to people's communities they're finding that on
average 30 percent of members are coming from internal so people actually discovering you
on school which is cool because that's a big number right like what usually when you're
promoting something online like the the traffic is coming from other sources like anytime I check
my analytics it's like always coming from Twitter, Instagram, my email campaign like all that stuff
right but on school they're saying that on average 30% of new members to like the average community
is coming from internal discovery so that that's amazing. That's amazing.
Yeah.
That's pretty exciting.
It's something to think about.
It's something to explore.
And I honestly think that this is,
it's going to blow up.
Like I'm,
I'm predicting that like people are kind of tired of the,
the algorithmic stuff.
Like it's kind of,
in my eyes,
it's almost like youtube
what youtube became over time because youtube became a place where people go to
upload informational stuff and to create communities and um but it became very um
not even just like oversaturated but kind of littered with like just regurgitation and like
not authentic content. So it became kind of like every other social media platform.
And now this is a new way because it's definitely more learning based. Like you're creating a
community, but you're also able to put courses up so you have a classroom and for example I can
go up and put like a vocal warm-up 10-minute vocal warm-up I can go and put that I can do
20 of those and then all of a sudden I have a bunch of people that are coming in like oh I
want access to this vocal warm-up and then you could put other things like you, you could diversify and you'd have multiple
different communities on school, but I kind of think of it as like a hub where I can kind of
just streamline everything to the bloom room because pretty much all that I have to offer
has to do with growth. Um, obviously you can sprinkle in my music. I feel like my Patreon
is more for my personal stuff, like new music drops, like stuff like that. But this is more for like giving back to people and giving
people something to, um, to grow with, right? Like my Patreon is the personal stuff, but this is a
little bit different. So I I'm going to put, I'm thinking I'll put up my, um, I've developed,
I have a whole list. I have probably over a hundred different
vocal exercises that I use with my students I have piano exercises I have
guitar exercises I have little like tutorial stuff that I can put up on
there and then I also have experiences like an entrepreneur someone starting a
business and that kind of stuff too so I don know, I feel like I can do a bunch of
stuff with it. I also like that you have a calendar on school. So there's kind of there's
tabs up at the top, you can go check the go to the link and just like take a look for yourself
because it's actually really cool. You probably will find this to be a cool feature of this
program. But there's a calendar so it
shows you the month and it shows you all the things that that creator that that
community leader has planned for the month so you can see like okay on
Tuesday they do coffee hour so maybe it's like 10 a.m. every morning we do an
hour where we like set the tone for the day or whatever it is maybe it's just Sundays
maybe Sunday morning we or early afternoon we like sit down have coffee and like we have like
a kind of like a group call um there's also Q&A you can do that you can do a co-working session
where uh let's say it's like a bunch of musicians are all working on like different music related
projects you could do like a music co-working session um where you kind of like get feedback
live feedback from from people in the community um and then there's also happy hour that's another
option for something you can schedule so I think that would be cool imagine like a maybe like a Friday night happy hour where we just I don't know partake
and and just like have fun because I think it's one of the things I mentioned in my community
like introduction I think that rest is a part of progress so you got to have time for that
that happy hour just have some drinks and oh God. My favorite thing about my job before I actually started my business is we were a web development company.
And every Friday, everyone unplugged at 4 p.m.
And we had beer stocked and wine and all kinds of stuff.
And we all just hung out together.
And a few of our people were musicians, well, four of stuff. And we all just hung out together. And a few of our people were musicians,
well, four of them. So we had live music constantly because they just wanted to sing
and we wanted to hear them sing. So it was one of the best things and it helps build the community
connection points. That's the thing about community. It's all about not just us connecting
with them, but it's all about everyone connecting with each other and supporting and uplifting each other.
In my experience of building communities, that is what everyone wants, right?
They want that deep connection, not only with you, Mellie, because you're amazing.
You're going to be the reason they come in, right?
But they want that connection with each other as well. And it builds such a strong bond between everyone.
So, yeah, I'm excited for you.
And I'm excited to be part of your community.
And I have to go now.
I know I'm the reason you stayed on later.
That's okay.
No, that's okay.
I'm happy that I did.
Thank you so much.
Thanks for joining my school community.
And I'm excited.
I think that we're going to do some cool, cool stuff this year.
So yeah, cool.
Thanks, Bridget.
Can you guys believe Mellabee just approved my request to join her school community?
Oh my God.
It's going to be fun.
I'm all in, Mellabee.
I downloaded the app too.
I know you have to go, Bridget.
But yeah, definitely look into school because I think it could be a really cool platform for you to explore and maybe you'll like it.
I'm excited.
I just wanted to let you know, I'm going to Steph's, so she's only open for an hour.
So if you want to come hang out over there and you want to drop the co, just go hang out over there as well.
But I love you and i'm so excited before you go don't go yet i want to tell you something okay okay
okay sorry hi everybody it's actually sugar this is my new account hawk i deleted um my business
account so you recognize my voice you know who i am am. And I came up because Bridget, remember Hoops from Clubhouse?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He got me into school.
And then, yeah, I got a big back injury this past six months.
So I haven't really activated stuff.
And I've been really having a hard time with my L4, L5 back.
I just keep going down.
So I'm unable to, like, move and everything.
But I'm excited.
And he,
he has, he knows everything about school. So definitely hit him up and let him know that you guys are interested because he's like an OG there. I think I even joined his community.
I can't remember which one it is in music. I can't remember right now. It was a while back,
but I got to learn how to like get my business up and running in there as well.
So I would love for all of us to kind of continue this discussion.
And yeah, love you guys.
And thanks for bringing me up.
And your song just was so amazing in Rachel's space yesterday.
I love you.
That was amazing.
And my daughter and I are picking up guitar lessons starting Thursday.
And she's already playing the ukulele and singing. And so I think it's all like coming together beautifully.
And I have so much to share about just the musical industry as well, because, of course, you know, I have kind of some of the high end clients who have been in that space who I'm very intentional now and not offering my services just because some have just been shown to be on the Epstein list.
So I'm like, no, thank you.
We're done.
And then I met the most incredible music couple who have been married here and where I live now, which is no longer California.
And I can't wait to share that with you guys
privately whenever later. And so yeah, follow me. And then, you know, I'll share my number with you
guys. And then we can just talk on the back end press has my number too. You can get it from him
if you have his number. Love you guys, Bridget. Sorry to keep you. Bye for now. No, love you,
sugar. Do you want me to open a source channel for you? Thank you.
Yeah, I've ended up in the ER like four times, babe.
It's just like I've just been getting energetically attacked a lot.
So, yeah.
And then I also want to tell you, I also want to send you.
So there's this technology I'm working with.
I want to send you the info on the back end.
That's pretty remarkable.
Not a lot of people know about it. Yeah, I'll send it to you. DM me. I'll just open you the info on the back end. That's pretty remarkable. Not a lot of people know
about it. Yeah, I'll send it to you. DM me. I'll just open one real quick for you. I'll do a broad
spectrum healing request. So whatever you need. And when you feel it, it'll stay with you as long
as you need it. And then it will dissipate. And it's not connected to me at all. It's just source.
So just let it know what you need if there's anything, especially if there's pain in any way.
Just be like, hey, I'm feeling this here.
Can you please take me to a zero?
That kind of a thing.
But yeah, I'll open one for you as soon as I leave here.
And I'm glad I got to hear you.
And I followed you on Hawk.
So yeah, let's connect for sure.
And love you, Mella.
Love you guys.
The fam, anyone that wants to receive the love.
I see Israel and Prez and Danger and AJ, of course, you're still here.
And, of course, Sugar and everyone else.
Casey, all of you guys.
Thank you so much.
Mella, I love you so much.
And I'll talk to you soon.
Love you, Bridget.
Yeah. Oh, my gosh. I'm excited. Is Hawk still here I'm here okay I mean we're gonna keep it as hot because I just
with everything that's going on I really kind of just deleted all of my social medias for your
info and then my big corporate partner was like the fuck did you do and then I had to reinstate the stupid Instagram and just load them up with it and
just call it a day. So, but yeah, I just did not like all this privacy stuff and just the check
marks and all of the things Whitney Webb said two years ago, I'm just over it. And I just took a
step back and I was like, we need to breathe and just, you know, be on a, be on an application
or just get back together. Like the way you're talking about what's school, because that platform,
I can see the community in there. It's like really high vibe. And when people are knowing
what you're doing and know what you're about and what you're doing for the betterment of humanity,
it's just like, they gravitate towards that energy and they
they will come you know because my my job is and um so no i don't know if you i shared with you and
i know you got to close but so i was in the food i was in the food business for 39 years in los
angeles i had three restaurants with my family started working started working at 14. And then fast forward seven years ago,
I opened up a healing center because I've always had some specialty gifts, so to speak,
that I finally tapped into. And it was very successful. And that's why I work with the
people I've worked with and still do, of course, but I'm quite selective now with the celebrity
clients. I say yes and no to moving forward. But so my job now is to really, you know, when I opened
up my healing center and brought the sound frequencies and really activated and got written
up in the LA Times and then it teleported fast forward after that. My job is to like when I see
Elon at my conference now twice and talk to people in his team, My job is to get sound healing and sound instruments at an
affordable price. Like I mean, super affordable and put them in every school in United States.
That's number one. And then I'm going to take a global from there. That's the big mission.
I'm here for it. And that's what I'm going to be working on very hard in May when I'm back at,
at the Milk and Institute Global Conference. So that is happening. I'm tired
of this monopoly of all these companies when I started coming and constantly monopolizing and
charging one bowl at $1,200. Like get the fuck all the way out of here. I'm done with this bullshit.
So yeah, I'm probably going to piss a lot of people off and I don't really give a fuck
anymore. So yeah, that's the plan. Yeah. We're going to get these kids. We're going to get these
kids some help in their classrooms stack because I'm a child development major, so they're my world.
And I opened up my healing center first for them to get them off technology. And then I ended up
being looted and losing all my businesses during COVID. And then I ended up being looted and losing all my businesses during COVID.
And then I ended up building out in Web3 in the last two years. My actual healing center is ready for VR and AR. And not that I'm pushing that. I'm just in that space to get the kids out
of that space to tell them that they are going to be born into it, that they need to exit and turn
it off. And somebody is going to be there.
And it's actually my activated space
because the developer came physically to Los Angeles
and did the whole thing.
Feels very real in there.
It wasn't all space VR until the piece of shit rugged us.
And then, you know,
because we were all doing so well
during the 2021 NFT craze
and all of that good stuff.
So I had a beautiful mural painted outside my space called Child of the Universe.
And it has a lot of meaning.
It's all about energy frequency and water being the most important element on our planet and that you are made of water.
And I highly recommend that everybody continue meditating in the shower and talk to your water.
Change the frequency of that water into being that the best healing from the Alps, literally living water coming and touching you from your head all the way down to your tippy toes and cleansing you.
And then tell it to remind you all the things you need to remember from all of the times that you've been here.
the things you need to remember from all of the times that you've been here. And it's pretty
magical what happens for people when they water and they do all this water meditation. So yeah,
it's I'm very excited, but I just keep getting attacked, sweetheart. And they just keep wanting
to take me down. But then I just keep getting back up. Tell them, fuck all the way up.
Yeah, that's what you got to do. You got to keep getting back up. Let your passion outweigh the bullshit. That's what it's all about. Yeah,
so I'm here. If you need anything, you let me know. If you have, please share me your Instagram,
social media, so I can follow you. Prez, if you can just tell her all of my stuff and anyone else
in the space who asks you personally, feel free to give them my
info. I appreciate you brother. And I look forward to speaking to you either tomorrow or this week
and help you however I can, what your plans are. So I'm always the connector and, um, and yeah,
like people meet good people meeting good people. And then together, um, you know, we've raised that
frequency and then we're here to like change
and shift it only takes a very small percentage of humanity to create this shift and then once
we do it it's done you know this all this fuckery is over with so stay positive i mean um i walked
today just for a little bit and i saw a heart rock I posted it down below for you just so you
see it later because I was just taking a stroll and then my eye I've been a rock collector since
my dad since my dad was a developer back in Iran before the revolution where I lived before going
through the war as a little kid and so rocks were always my thing. And so were crystals, but I just never knew
why. And this rock said, I love you. And it had a heart on top and two hearts on bottom. And it
almost looked like a cross. And it's so pretty. And I just sat with it. And, you know, everybody's
been through a lot this past, you know, yesterday, week, the month, the years. And it just, again,
yesterday, week, the month, the years. And it just, again, reminds me how wonderful humanity is.
And the people are so beautiful. And there's always someone out there who's going to show
you a sign to keep going. Don't give up. Have faith, have hope, no matter how dark things look.
You just keep shining the light because we are following. That's it. That's it.
And just be good and be kind and get to know all the people that you live around. And, you know,
if you haven't talked to your neighbors, it's really time to invite them over for a little
recap and a little connection, a little reconnect and making sure that, Hey, if you hear something, say something.
If I hear something, I'll say something. If you need something, let me know. If I need something,
I'll let you know. And just building those tight relationships within your block system and, and
kind of go out a few blocks out. So you can kind of have a nice grid for protection for just in case you know you need it
but it's important to have those eyeball to eyeball connections being in the restaurant
business for 39 years and having an open kitchen having people come and enjoy my food and just our
vibe and environment it always takes me back to. And I'm having to remind the newer generation
that they really need to connect more one-on-one eyeball to eyeball instead of on social media,
you know, and I'll reopen that healing center. I will reopen that restaurant. I will merge it.
I'll probably have a farm on the land. I will do all the things. And I know that I'm super, you know, in alignment.
Like I will be, all the doors will open when they're supposed to for that to happen.
And once that happens, I will open that globally everywhere and help as many people as possible.
And so it's all about getting back with me.
I don't know any other way.
I'm trying to learn to receive, still trying to learn.
Getting better at it, but I like it organic
and I never ask for anything.
Except for when I'm in prayer, I command it in.
And if you're in prayer, don't wish for things.
Command it in your field.
When you use the word command,
you're not being disrespectful or anything like that,
but it is important to use the word.
And so I just kind of remind everybody of that.
And well, thank you so much for bringing me up.
I love you guys.
And yeah, just address me as Hawk for now.
People who recognize my voice from Clubhouse,
well, they do, and I'm happy about it.
I do lock up my account. It do. And I'm, I'm happy about it. I do lock up my
account. Um, it's just that I'm just not really happy with the things, um, that are going on,
but I do also know that I'm an Aquarius. We are in the age of Aquarius. We're shifting that shit.
And, um, uh, we are going to create the world that we want to see. And that is the end of that and so love you all um keep your energy high no matter uh how much
they try to um dim your light you just shine as bright as possible do whatever makes you happy
thank you that's what it's all about thank you so much hawk thanks for coming through
um i love your insight and i hope to see you more in this space and hopefully also in the school community.
It sounds like you have a whole lot to give, like you just have a whole lot of knowledge and experience.
So I'm excited to connect with you more.
But yeah, thank you so much for coming through.
Thanks for being here and for sharing.
I think I see one hand. Finally, I i see a hand this whole time i haven't
seen hands um prez i see your hand is up what do you got for us now i just wanted to say it's
super great to hear from hawk um great to hear your voice frequency i'm glad that you were able
to share and we'll definitely connect soon and uh yeah
mella i'm in the bloom room man i just joined i didn't even realize i had school until i actually
joined because and then i didn't even remember my password but it had my email so it sent me my code
and i was like oh okay cool so yeah i'm in the bloom room it's official so i just wanted to say
that and thank you for what you're doing what what you're building, not just with that, but even with these spaces. And we'll keep supporting you
however you want to feel supported as well. So appreciate everybody in the room, man.
Thanks, Prez. Yeah, I see you're in the bloom room. I'm so excited. Yeah, it's just the beginning.
I've got a bunch of stuff planned, so I'm excited to roll stuff out and just keep going.
I am going to end the space now.
I would love to hop into Steph's space with you guys.
We should all just go raid the space over there and support Steph.
Yeah, let's go.
Cool.
Yes, we'll see you guys over there.
Thank you so much for hanging out with me on episode four of the Bloom Room.
I am always honored to share time and space with you guys.
So appreciate you all.
Again, join the school community.
The Bloom Room is also on school.
So if you want to keep the conversation going and just be a part of more of a tight-knit community version of this,
that is the place to be
um the link is up top and it's also in my bio so yeah i'll see you guys over in step space much
love take care and uh until next time bye later
oh wait we didn't do the We didn't do the thing.
We have to unmute.
All coming off the mic.
We got to do it.
Ready?
And a one.
And a two.
And a one, two, three.
And I said, hey, hey, hey, hey, you'll somehow realize what you're gonna do.
I believe that anybody else feels the way I knew about you now.
