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The builder behind the Buzz Feat. @Pons_Eth 🐝
Recorded: June 10, 2025 Duration: 0:52:01Space Recording
Short Summary
The discussion highlights the upcoming launch of the Grind coin, detailing its strategic development, community engagement through giveaways, and a focus on transparency to build trust. Pons shares insights on the positive community sentiment and the innovative approach to token allocation, setting the stage for a successful launch.
Full Transcription
Thank you. so Thank you. I so so
I'll tell you where you're moaning, baby, there's something in this model, so I can't
tell you're falling from me, touch me in the morning.
I'll tell you where you're moaning, baby, there's something in this model, so I can't so
so so
so so Thank you. What's up?
What's up?
We're about to start.
Give us like two, maybe 60 seconds.
And we're going to get this thing rocking and rolling.
Like, comment, repost the space if you haven't already.
We have four claw giveaways today in celebration of grind allocation.
And of course, the beast, Mr. Pons. Very excited to have him here today.
We're going to go and get this thing going
in about 55, 50 seconds.
Thank you for being here. Tag a friend.
Share this in your group chats. Let's get going. Thank you. Let's go.
Let's go.
We have some special guests pulling up to join the party.
We have Pons here.
I know this guy is the busiest motherfucker right now on the internet.
I keep pinging him all day, every day.
And I know he's not mad because he needs to be pinged. We got some things to talk about.
But no, I know he's been at it every single day. It's been really exciting to see this new,
fresh energy on the timeline. Dash, if you could please take the co-host, appreciate you.
But yeah, the space has officially started started thank you guys for being here if you haven't already like comment repost the
room if you want to be entered into the giveaway today there's four all you have to do is create
your bz account like comment repost and screenshot your win after you play the claw below.
That will qualify you.
We already got almost 10 comments.
Let's get this thing ran up to 50 comments so we can get thrown in the algorithm.
Everybody needs this information, especially those that are just getting rinsed on meme coins.
Let's help our friends out, guys.
LOL.
But no, moving forward, it's going to be fun.
I'm excited.
Thank you again, Pawns, for being here. We're going to jump right into everything. Before we do so, let me say
hello to my amazing co-host, Mr. Dash. What's going on? How's your day going?
I'm pretty good. Yeah, feeling good. It's kind of hot here here but i have the blinds closed we're just hanging out
with the dogs um yeah it's a good day i was gonna say it's hot as fuck over here too uh
yeah blast it's really hot but um yeah i'm i'm hyped to get into this you've been i think you
were grinding for grind forever even before all this uh So I'm excited to jump into it with Pons.
Pons, first of all, thank you for pulling up.
Welcome to the official BZ Spaces.
And I'm really eager to know, first and foremost, most people may already know your background.
So we'll get into that in just a second for those that don't.
But I'm going to just get right off, like just jump off the springboard and just ask, like what made you want to drop this grind coin, if you will?
Yeah, we've been working on it for a long time now since February of last year,
at least if not a little bit longer than that.
So it was, the Plague ecosystem originally launched a utility coin and it ended up being,
we launched it incorrectly.
It wasn't really, um, the right
time. And, uh, so I scrapped that. And, uh, during that timeframe, I'd spoken to lawyers,
multiple lawyers spent tens of thousands of dollars on lawyers to talk about the right way
to launch a token. And they all keep coming back to meme coins saying it from a security standpoint,
it was the safest way to launch.
You launch it with no expectation and those kind of things.
And so once that decision was made, and actually in January this year when Trump dropped his, I realized I wasted all my money on those lawyers.
But regardless, it opened up the pathway to do things.
And regardless, it opened up the pathway to do things.
And all these recent SEC rulings are definitely beneficial to what we're doing here.
And so the goal with Grind, the reason why we're bringing it into the ecosystem is to expand the leverage that a community can give or can gain.
And that's why we brought in 20-something-plus NFT projects into the fold.
These are all projects. Some of them are newer on abstract, but outside of those,
they're all proven communities that I know understand the way that these things work and
understand the value and strength of a community. And the it kind of combines the forces of all those
nft communities creates a attention token um in the abstract ecosystem that we can leverage to
to get what we want um and with different things and and there's some things because it's a meme
coin that uh you know people will just have to find out as it as they happen but there's a lot
of fun you can do with meme coins you just can can't, can't set any expectations that, you know, you,
you know, the rules are off to explain them to you, by the way,
is it pronounced dash this whole time in my head?
I've been pronouncing it ducks and or something like that. Is it dash?
No, it's correct. I just say dash. Cause I don't know how to spell.
Okay. Well that's not, no, you're, you're correct. It's dachshund. Yeah.
Yeah. That a better sense.
But people call me Dash or Dox.
Like, some friends I've met through the NFT space,
they call me Dox.
Like, even when I meet up with them.
Like, my real name's Quinton,
but I never tell anybody my real name
because they only know me by Dox.
So, yeah.
It's pretty funny. Yeah, I've never heard it also i just read it look how many frogs are down there every time i get into
a space with pawns they show up so hard it's crazy i don't see it with anybody else it's badass
real cult-like frogs are strong for sure we always have been since we launched
real cult-like things.
Frogs are strong, for sure.
We always have been since we launched.
Dude, good answer on that.
And I'm personally a big fan of the way you've been rolling out the, like,
go-to-market, you know, as far as, like, allocating it to certain communities.
Who thought of that?
Was that you?
Was that a team effect?
Who came up with that?
Yeah, I mean, that was that you was that a team effect who came up with that um yeah i mean that was my idea and it was um again the main reason is just to
to um i i've done a bunch of spaces now so some people that have attended have heard this multiple
times but for those that haven't so like i said i've been working on this a long time and we got
the the main you know i've talked to a lot of people about launching a token,
launching a meme coin specifically.
And they gave all the most common three pieces of advice I got were don't
launch on abstract launch in Solana.
Don't launch with NFT communities because all the NFT communities are down
bad and they're just going to sell it and dump it and then raise a ton of
money because you're going to need it from the runway.
And we're not doing any of those three things and doing things differently.
And I think based on the outcomes from all the other meme coins,
the people that gave me this advice that I've seen,
I think we're probably better off not doing it the way they did it.
Hold on. That's bold as fuck.
You're saying you're not taking any of the advice what's the other
route you're going instead well we're launching on abstract not on solana uh we gave uh the
the allocation to 24 something nft community so not just a nfc community and uh we raised
we're gonna raise about 170 000 and uh based on all of the inquiries I got, we could
have raised two or three times that easily. But we're not, the point of the token is not to raise
a bunch of funds. The point of token is to launch it correctly. And you need a certain amount of
funds to launch it correctly with liquidity. And, you know, so two thirds of it will go towards
liquidity or liquidity actions. And a third of it will go towards marketing. And then the token will, you know, there'll be fees and stuff that happen as
just like any other token. But we wanted to launch it correctly. The last thing I want to do is
launch a meme coin and be accused of launching a rug. So the way when we launch it, we're launching
it using gatekeep, which will keep people from being able to snipe it and those kinds of things.
So it'll be launched the right way. It's not going to be what you usually see in the space.
And that's how we like to do things.
Bravo.
Well said.
Yeah.
I'm looking forward to see that when you say proper, when you like,
I guess it was really thought out how you decided to go about the numbers
decided to go about the numbers and everything is just mass um is there going to be anything
and everything is just math.
specific to like the uh the frogs as to like i'm assuming they get the most allocation right
yeah they do um but it's uh they they'll get the most because it's uh based on a per nft where the
rest of the projects are based on uh if you're just holding it or not. So it's, it's not like the frog,
the overall, the frogs are getting, um, about 20% of the allocation. The rest is divvied up amongst, uh, former FRG holders, which is the old utility token. So there's frogs there too,
but there's also other people. And then, um, like I said, 24, 25 NFT communities,
uh, that we're allocating amongst.
And then marketing things like we're doing with you and BZ.
And we've got a couple of other partners that we're working with and some games and stuff like that to use Grind and gain attention for them.
Because, again, what we're trying to do is set up win-win scenarios.
It's like we have a partnership with Slingshot.
We want to do the claims process so that the tokens drop on Slingshot. And if they use our referral code go to marketing or they can choose a community that they want to earn those fees.
So that's a win-win scenario.
We get the potential of the fees if people use the wallet.
Slingshot gets users, which is what they wanted.
So that's just an example of what we can do with Grind, not just before launch, but after launch.
And that's the intention of it.
Dude, putting on a masterclass here.
You know, you would have shat on everybody in 2021 just saying,
but everything happens for a reason.
All the bullshit's out now, right, Ponce?
All the bullshit's out so we can shine.
We as in the frog community.
I don't know. I don't know if it's all out. It just comes in waves. is out so we can shine. We as in the frog community.
I don't know.
I don't know if it's all out. It just comes in waves. So right now, people are tired
of it. But a month from now,
the next Ben.Eath will appear and
make a bag and move on.
You know how that goes. I wonder what he's up to
these days. I wonder what he's up to.
It's crazy.
We do have
a new quest that's officially live. and it will grant you access to some grind
allocation um seeing as if you follow through with all the quests and everything it's it's
pretty dope it's listed above i put it up top uh dash do you have uh mr doxon do you have a
question for pons as we continue oh actually, with all this excitement around Grind and everything that's going on,
I was just wondering how you're doing and also how your DMs are.
Tell me about that.
And are you sleeping?
Yeah, well, as Prophets knows, I don't answer my DMs anyways, especially on Twitter.
I'm very bad about it.
And it's really crazy now.
So even like I like I gave her discord, I was like, hey, I'm better there.
And I haven't been better there since since this has all been going on.
So as she says, she's discord is better because at least if somebody pings me, it's going to show up that I got pinged where Twitter just goes into the abyss.
But DMs are crazy.
This is stuff that I enjoy doing.
It takes a lot of time.
But that's just part of it.
If I wasn't doing this, well, I should say I'd be hanging out with my family.
And I would in a lot of cases.
But I also just work a lot.
That's what I do.
I enjoy it.
I enjoy what we're trying to do here.
I would enjoy it more if we were more successful on what, not with Grime, but just other things that we've done.
But, yeah, this stuff, like the late nights, hard work, that kind of stuff, I've been doing all my life, and I enjoy it.
stuff I've been doing all my life and I enjoy it.
It's all a game to me, really.
It's all a game to me, really.
You know, it's funny
because I have the same problem with
messages on Twitter.
Like, I'm sure you're
getting bombarded, but like
I'll have conversations
and then I'll just wait to go
through my DMs, but then they'll
end up going to my Discord and they'll be like,
oh, I'll try here, but then I'm like, okay, I see that they messaged me, but I'll check it later. then they'll end up going to my discord and they'll be like oh i'll try here but then i'm like okay i see there i see that they messaged me but i'll check it later and then i end
up it's been like two or three days i'm like fuck i didn't like check their message i mean that's
just like that's that's my problem so yeah i guess i have the same thing and and um what's funny is
is anytime there's something going on um like any anytime there's something going on that i'm either i'm involved with or i'm helping other people with um there's a the same cast of
characters that show up in my dms i never hear from them never see them on the timeline never
they don't exist until they see something's happened all of a sudden they're in my dms hey
you know what's going on with grind and i'm like come, come on, man, I don't have time for this, but it's the same, same story all the time.
I don't got time for this. He said,
what's the community sentiment been like since the announcement of grind coin?
Obviously, you know, your community better than anybody. So like, has it been,
I would imagine it's highly excited.
What's your take on like the community sentiment at the moment?
Yeah, I think they're, they're,'s highly excited. What's your take on the community sentiment at the moment? Yeah, I think everybody's excited.
Frog specifically are so excited that it's actually finally coming
because originally we were supposed to do it in February,
and I've just been delaying it for lots of reasons.
It's become a meme for us having delays.
It's just kind of something that always happens.
So I think assuming that we don't have a delay past June 23rd, I think everybody's super excited.
But they're probably just ready to pounce if we go June 24th or something like that.
But yeah, I mean, in general, communities excited.
The communities we brought on board are excited.
People that are involved in other ways it there's a lot of a lot more uh excitement and hype around it than
i thought there would be and uh you know we still have plenty of stuff to drop before it actually
launches so it's gonna be a lot of fun i feel like it would be a great opportunity for the
community to make like the before gta joke, but with you delaying.
Yeah, I mean, it's again, it's there's two things that the holders always give me crap about is one, they make funny for me for being a boomer.
And then two, they well, three, they say I'm super short.
well, three. They say I'm super short.
Shanice has met me in real life.
I'm not the tallest guy on earth, but I'm also
not a midget. I don't know if I'm supposed to say that, but I'm not a short person like they think I am.
And then the other one is that I have a lot of delays.
This guy's funny, dude. He's pretty tall yeah so come on you don't don't don't lie i'm not pretty
tall i'm just not you are you're just short i'm taller than you but that's not that short i'm
pretty good i'm pretty good height um real quick for those that are maybe confused so to enter
into the claw giveaway you want to like comment repost the
space create an account on bz now it looks like some people are a little bit slow and that's okay
because i'm slow as well i'm very slow um if you play the claw this is going to give you a way
better chance to win a claw play okay so screenshot So screenshot your claw play, post it below.
But to enter into the giveaway, you want to like, comment, repost the space, and create a BZ account.
And that's it. It's right there pinned to the top for you.
We have some friends on stage. Welcome to the stage.
You guys can chime in at any moment if you guys want to ask Mr. Pons a question.
I'm going to continue right on.
Pons, in your opinion, from a 2021 to now standpoint, we have amazing things
like VZ now where real collectors come together and there's a vibe and there's a community and
they're bonding over something. I feel like you guys are big on that as well. You guys have a
utility behind what you guys are building. How important has that been when it comes to your
build, creating something of value, creating something with an actual mission behind it?
Yeah. I mean, I think that that's been the point for us from the beginning. Again,
we've had some successes and failures along the way, but it's super important. I think you referenced
2021 a couple of times, 21, 22, almost everybody was just pure speculation.
I mean, that's what brought most people into the space, myself included originally.
And then, you know, it was pure speculation with a bunch of nonsense that people were saying just to increase the speculation.
Some of that nonsense became reality, but wasn't worth as much as people were paying for it.
Right. So it's I think things have kind of I think the speculation especially nfts have um come down quite a bit and now it's actual real things that are happening being built and
um i think the community part and that is the point um at least for the the people that are
building and then for the community the people within the community there's different reasons
why they're there some of them might be there actually for whatever the product or the mission
is some of them might be there for for whatever the product or the mission is.
Some of them might be there for speculation still, but, you know, are wanting to help for it.
And then you have just the regular speculators that are out there as well.
But I think for me, you know, the only reason I'm still here is because I've got a community of people that, you know, I said I was going to do something and that's why I'm going to do it.
But otherwise I would have been long gone.
Well said, Mr. Well said,
mister.
Well said.
Growing up,
did you ever collect any Yu-Gi-Oh Pokemon cards,
comics,
collectibles?
You don't have to lie to us.
none of that.
I mean,
I would read comic books when I was a kid,
but I didn't,
I mean,
I have them still,
but I didn't collect them.
We got them.
Dachshund.
I told you,
I knew it. He's like, wait, do you have your original do you have your original uh comics too yeah yeah yeah i mean but i didn't keep them i didn't keep them because i didn't keep them because i was like
hey they're gonna be worth money one day i just i like reading them like wolverine and yeah um
you know i like wolverine and x-Men and then Spawn whenever that came around.
I was I was reading whatever. It's interesting, too, because like a lot of the people that are into comics,
the the age range is a little bit higher just because it's like that's when they were more popular.
And a lot of them don't really they collect,, but they don't necessarily care about condition as much.
And they also don't grade it nearly as much.
Like there's vendors I talk to that only buy and sell just the comic itself.
And of course they take care of them, but it's like, you know, they're not like, oh no, I've like bent the page.
so it's like it's pretty different in many ways
So it's like, it's pretty different in many ways.
i mean yeah in general in general i'm not really that stuff doesn't really appeal to me i'm not
easily impressed by that kind of stuff just i mean i like this i like reading it but i'm not a big
collector of anything i'm not an art aficionado like i don't i don't know i don't know i don't
know how to say it i'm just i don't really care much about any of that stuff.
I'll get you a Pokemon card.
That's okay.
I don't want one. But I appreciate it.
I appreciate it anyways.
I appreciate the offer.
Wait, have you ever opened a...
Give it to somebody that would appreciate it.
Okay.
Have you ever opened a Pokemon pack?
Okay.
If you do, you should smell the cards
they smell amazing i'm not even joking pokemon cards i've i've said this a lot but pokemon cards
have the best smell and like other cards like magic cards they have their own smell it's great
but it's not nearly as good as pokemon and nothing yugioh has its own smell. It's great, but it's not nearly as good as Pokemon. And nothing, Yu-Gi-Oh! has its own smell.
It's like, it's crazy.
So just, you know, if you ever see a pack, think of me.
And then just be like, you know what?
I want to smell it.
Guys, Pons, I'm so fucking sorry on behalf of you.
All right, we got the first Claw winner underway.
We got the first Claw winner underway.
Shout out to VanGlog underscore ETH.
Bro just played two back-to-back Claws on the motherfucking spaces.
There you go.
If you guys didn't know, Claw is the number one gotcha game in this entire space.
All right?
I don't make the damn rules.
Just saying.
Pawns, thank you for being here.
We're going to continue on. There's so many frogs in the house shout out to the frog bro i can't i'm so excited
man i'm i'm really excited we also have the bz quest officially live uh to earn to get some grind
if you stop touching the damn mute button dash ah shit sorry that's fine i saw no no hold on i saw a request
and i was clicking on it and then there was no request okay sorry go ahead it happens yeah so uh
that quest information is up top as well uh but yeah ponds what happens post launch launch day
has came and went you have successfully hit the goals you wanted to hit as far as the launch goes everything went smoothly what are the next action steps yeah so then then the quest is to grow more
holders to the the token um and so we'll have a lot of things that help us do that um you know
fun activations and cool things that we've got um in works. And then to utilize Grind to gather things within the abstract ecosystem.
I mean, talking about DMs, I've got a bunch of people within the abstract ecosystem in
my DMs that are trying to figure out how they can utilize Grind.
Again, because they want the attention.
And if we can grow the holder base and keep the attention post launch, regardless of price,
which, you know, it'll do what it needs to do based on, you know, how well we do with attention
and those kinds of things. Then it brings a lot of leverage to a chain that is, you know, in its
early stages is growing to be one of the top assets. It's not the top asset on that chain,
which would be our goal from a holder count standpoint um comes with a lot of a lot of leverage to to get things for the community to get
get people to utilize grind and that's what we'll do that those are the steps that we'll take
dude somebody just pulled a pair of dunks that's valued at $75, dude. Congratulations. Wow.
It's that pawn juice.
It's that pawn's energy over there.
Hey, I see Luke up here.
I'm not answering any of you's questions.
And when you unmute him and if he says I'm busy doing something,
just kick him off the stage because this is like the fifth time he's come up here.
I know he's going to do it.
Is he annoying?
No, no, no.
He's cool.
But every time he gets called on, he's like, oh, hold on.
I'm doing something here.
And then he'll come back with a question, you know.
Yeah, we'll keep him on mute.
No worries.
Audio, Matt, what's up?
Thanks for coming.
For sure, BZ.
I'm going to say it, duh.
Because, yeah, I'm just going to put a new twist on it.
Profits with a pawns.
Everybody on stage.
I have a quick question from Pawns because one of the things
I've heard a few
times in the space is there's
an opportunity to connect with other projects
like Beezy did with Grind
Coin. I'm curious, Pawns, if
somebody wants to contact
Grind Coin or the
Plague, what channel would be the best way for them
to contact you in order to
integrate Grind Coin into their game, their platform? What would be the best way for them to contact you in order to integrate GrindCoin into their game, their platform?
What would be the best route for someone to take on that?
Yeah, we'll have an intake for that because I don't certainly don't.
If I'm the point of contact that's everybody's waiting on me to answer a DM, it's going to be problems.
So we'll have an intake for that.
Or you can just tag moark in the discord
i was gonna should we just open tickets and then tag moark yeah yeah yeah do that um but
but we'll we'll have an intake form all right and i wasn't gonna do it i just wanted to know
for others you know give them a little little on ramp there yeah i appreciate that yeah and
you can just tag moark regardless we should tag moark
now for no reason right now
i killed the conversation all right i'm gonna drop down now no you're good i was i was i was
tagging moark actually i was literally tweeting in the comments.
That's the only shitty part about muting yourself. Oh no,
that was a good question. That was fire. Uh, so Pons,
do you have any crazy like web to guerrilla marketing tactics you're going
after when it comes to getting more grind holders? Um,
I don't know if that's a wild question, but I'm curious.
No, I mean, so there there's, there's going to be a tick tock strategy. Um,
yeah, I'm not going to, I'll do the Murad if we get to 100,000 holders.
I'll do the Murad on TikTok.
But if we don't get there, then we'll have a different strategy.
But, yeah, it's – for sure, we'll go with micro-influencers on there.
The song, we're going to try and get that song out there Because it's very Annoying but it hooks you
You can't get it out of your head
Where's the song at?
I'll post it underneath and you can
Perfect
I can't believe you haven't heard the song
Hold on a second
He is so proud of this song
He made it with AI
This is amazing
Wow we got a music producer on our hands
Holy shit What can your founder do? Oh, this is great. This is amazing. Wow, we got a music producer on our hands. Holy
shit. What can your founder do? Real quick, while Pons goes ahead and gets me that to
the bottom, we have three more claws to give away. Like, comment, repost a space, make
a BZ account, and that qualifies you into the giveaway. Post your clawplay, and that
mega qualifies you. I'm automatically Post your call play and that mega qualifies
you. I'm automatically just going to give you a call
play, bro, because you guys are just making
this too easy.
It's right there pinned up to the top.
And yeah,
I'm excited.
You pinned it, Ponce?
It'll take a minute, so you can keep going.
I'll let you know what post is.
So I'm excited for the TikTok
strategy. Is the plague going i'll let you know okay no i'm good um so i'm excited for the tiktok strategy is uh is is the
plague the and forgive me i don't think you've launched another collection is there going to be
another collection after that collection no nice no i've i've uh i've lost enough nfts in my day
at this point so no more nfts i've day at this point so no no more nfts
i've said that quite a few times i just keep coming back pons if there's one thing you can change negative positive whatever since
inception of your whole build out with the plague and everything you've been doing
what would it be i mean i would have never launched it to begin with.
Listen, I'm here.
I have fun.
I like what I'm doing.
But man, the cost benefit analysis has not been a great one on being an NFT founder.
That's for sure.
I could have been some bozo KOL and made a bunch of money and know move on to the next team and blame other people when it goes wrong that's a much better that's a much better
job than what an nft founder is um so yeah i mean i don't know was that it was is that can i take
can i stick with that that's the fucking answer dude i i this is why i like you so much you people
are fucking lucky to have you as uh i don't don't see the, uh, the damn song still.
Jesus. Oh my God. It's coming, man. It's a, it's a, it's a video that goes along with it. So it's
about 50% uploaded. It's almost there. Oh, you're up. Okay. I was like, am I crazy? I fucking still
haven't seen this shit yet. All good. All good. Um, may I ask you this? What was the inspiration on launching on Abstract aside from the naysayers?
I like the team on Abstract.
Obviously, Luca, I know Luca, and I know he executes well,
has a lot of good connections.
And so I'm pretty confident he'll Abstract's here to stay.
You can't really say that about all the L2s.
The Abstract team itself, Mason and Finn and those guys, they do a great job.
And so I've talked to a lot of chains.
We've had a lot of chains that have come and talked to us about the frogs either coming over there or things that we're doing or bring things over there.
And by far, when I was talking to the abstract chain, I could tell that they were
more dialed in than the other chains that I've talked to. So that's a big reason for it.
All right. It's there. It should be under the comments here. It's a video
posted by the Grind account.
Are you listening to it on mute? No, no,'m uh i'm coming through right now hold on i know ponds is a boomer so i pinned it up top for everyone as well i don't think ponds actually
knows how to pin things on top i really don't i don't i really don't know how to do it i've
never done it that's a true story okay well actually three little dots at the bottom of
the post just hit those things put right on the channel. Boom.
I taught you something.
I taught Paul in something.
Everyone note that.
Yeah, I don't even see the dots.
You didn't tease me correctly.
Jackson, go ahead.
Oh, yeah. I was just going to say, I was wondering how, because you mentioned Boomer.
So I was like, how did you get into the space?
Yeah, well, so I'm 45.
So here I'm a boomer.
Outside of Web3, you know, in the industries I'm in, I'm like, hey, I'm one of the younger guys.
So I'm a boomer here.
So that's been a change for me.
How I got here is I just started trading crypto in 2017. Sorry, I had a phone call coming
in. I found my way into the NFT space through Decentraland and Sandbox and then the Apes. I was
an ape first. When I bought my ape, I got a Twitter account account it's the first social media I ever had
and I only got it because that's the utility of an ape at the time everybody thought you're an
expert if you had an ape PFP on Twitter so I did that and then I got more into the NFT scene and
saw these logos as I call them all coming together. And as a community, I was like,
hey, maybe there's a cool way
we could do a different business model.
And that's what we've been trying to do
over and over again, trying to figure out how to...
There's been brands that have done it.
Rekt Brands is a good example.
Pudgy Penguin's a good example.
They've done a good job of utilizing their IP
in a community to build.
I'm not really an IP guy.
Like I said earlier, that stuff doesn't
really impress me. So we're just trying to create
business models that utilizes
the blockchain and community and we're trying
to make that happen.
Pons, what's the first time you bought
Bitcoin?
2017.
Nice.
Produced by Pons, ladies and gentlemen. Oh, my God. Oh my god, with the little cancer like dancing is fucking funny as hell.
It's like opera.
Oh wow, this is amazing. Oh, he takes a poop. Oh my goodness. Hilarious. Little poopaloops.
Question, Pawns. What inspired that little character there for the grind coin?
Well, the grind meme is the daily grind, grind inside of Web3, outside of Web3. Everybody knows what it means
to grind, right? And so part of that is the hamster wheel, being in the hamster wheel,
the hamster's grinding because they can't get all the hamster wheel. People use that
analogy quite a lot. So that's where the hamster came from. One of our community
memers, he calls himself the king of the memers, helped me draw the original version.
And I took it to, we have a guy in our community, Matt 3D, who does outstanding 3D work.
And I told him, I gave him the picture of the hamster in the song.
I said, hey, make this hamster dance.
And this is what he produced.
And he did an outstanding job, obviously.
But that's how it came to life oh i love that that's very funny actually what kind of community
do you think you have i feel like i feel like apes are like a lot of um like spread out entrepreneurs
and like uh at first a lot of boomers as well because a lot of people
from real estate came in and just kind of bought in but I feel like a lot of different variety and
like like I said entrepreneurial type people I feel like D-Gods was a lot of younger kids
I feel like Pudgy Penguins similar thing, a lot of younger kids. Nothing wrong with that either, right?
Big diversity.
But what kind of community do you think the frogs are,
the one that you have kind of curated is?
Yeah, we definitely skew older.
You know, I don't know, probably most are not nearly as old as I am,
just by the demographics of the space, right?
I'm 45.
If I had to guess, we haven't done the data analysis on it or anything like that.
We haven't asked people their ages. But if I had to guess, it's probably in the low to mid 30s on
average, which is high for the NFT space. And a lot of business owners, a lot of entrepreneurs.
What's interesting is, is we have a very diverse group of people from all around the world.
And I think like what's I think our initial or our core ethos is decentralization of opportunity.
And so it's funny because that term, depending on your worldview, if you're if you're a, you know, a capitalist person, you'll view it one way.
If you're a socialist person, you'll view it one way. If you're a socialist person, you'll view it another way. And we've attracted both. And that's caused some friction
amongst the community in different points. But in general, we've got a lot of business owners
all over the world and a lot of business people. And I think we definitely as a community skew more
to the mature side than a lot of the other communities that are out there for sure.
Not just in age, but in personality.
I think that's really important too. I think that's important for, no,
I'm still here. I think that's really important too.
The longevity of a project in a sense of like,
they are going to,
they are going to understand and expect based on what
you're saying and but also not hold you to it like uh and i mean you're not over promising things
anyway and i feel like that's a lot of our what our space has been for so long so i definitely
respect that i see a lot of like um there's all types of people i've met from the frog community
i think it's like a whole other part of Twitter.
I swear.
Like you guys don't get rugged on memes.
It's just great.
Like it's like the smarter part of Twitter, like high IQ vibes.
Um, for sure.
Yeah.
I mean, a lot of the people here are very skeptical and they're not, um, you know, there, there's, there's people in the quote unquoteunquote trenches, but they're not like –
I mean, you've been to a casino, and you know the locals that are at the casino
that you can tell lose money there every day, keep coming back.
Definitely not that crowd.
They come in the casino with some money that they're okay to lose,
and then they move on for the most part.
So, yeah, for sure. I think your,
your, uh, description's a good one. So how has it been? Uh, and we're, we're wrapping up here
in the next like 10 or 15 minutes. We're going to have one more call giveaway. I've already given
away three claw plays. Shout out to you guys playing the claw. I see some doves. I'm watching
this activity on open sea right now. Uh, I'm watching the doves. I'm watching this activity on OpenSea right now.
I'm watching the doves. Congrats to you guys. So I want to know, how has it been being a
Undox founder in the space? And I asked it in that way because I feel like
in our space, you've proven you can build without being docs i just feel like there's
been a really mixed sentiment and like take on that so how's it been being an undocs founder
yeah i mean there's there's just like anything else there's pros and cons the pros
and i always say this is that the the mystique behind the not being docs is a is a pro in most
cases you know because i think um people because i I'm an NFT boomer, I think when
people try and envision me, they, you know, they view a mix between like Gandalf and Yoda or
whatever. And as to the mystique and the personalities, people think I'm smarter than
I am because they have that vision in their head. So that's a pro for sure. The con is it's harder to do business. I mean, it's very hard to do business if you're not docs,
not just amongst other communities, you know, you know, you're not, you're not part of the
crowd if you're not docs, but also like, I mean, imagine hiring people, they don't know who you are.
You can't, it's hard. It's hypocritical to say, Hey, I need your resume and all this other stuff. And like, Hey dude, you're a frog on the internet. I don't even know who you are. I don't know who you are. It's hypocritical to say, hey, I need your resume and all this other stuff.
And like, hey, dude, you're a frog on the internet.
I don't even know who you are.
I don't even know the company.
So there's some definite cons to it, for sure, on the execution side.
Net-net is probably a negative.
But for me, it's a positive because there's a bunch of crazy people on the internet.
And I don't want them to know who I am and I do then I do business in real life and it'd be hard for me to
be hard for me to explain this pfp and all these crazy frogs on my timeline if uh if I was docs in
my real life business well said totally true I totally agree um dude lifts are you grinding for grind coin or what
apparently now i am you know um sorry for damn right you are sorry for lurking out on stage i'm
i'm a polite guy don't interrupt where'd luke go did i scare luke off this did i scare luke off
the stage sorry i didn't mean to interrupt that. No, you're good. You're good.
You probably did.
It's all right.
Okay, it's all right.
Sorry.
This is so cool.
So, yeah, thanks, Pods, for choosing the Beasy community to be part of the grind.
It's super cool.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, I know.
Shanice and I go way back, and I like what she does, and same with Dachshund.
I'm happy to help bring some light to Beezy.
And they're bringing light to Grind.
So it works both ways.
I apologize if you went over this.
But how did you choose the hamster or gerbil?
I don't want to miss species.
It's a hamster, yeah.
It's the, because the meme is grind, like the daily grind,
grinding for whitelist or whatever, and the grind of the hamster wheel,
that's how we landed on the hamster.
Love it.
Love it.
It's awesome.
We got some plague players in the BZ marketplace right now playing the claw.
You guys are making, I see those dubs.
What's up luke go ahead
what's up yo can you hear me i'm on my computer i can hear you yeah dude ponds i don't know what
the shade is i'm just sitting here eating mango um there's nothing that crazy going on
oh you're eating something i I'm sure. I know.
But if I may, may I ask a quick question?
I know you're about to wrap things up.
And I double dosed with you today and Eli's streaming here.
I'm all in on the grind.
Of course, yeah.
What you got?
So you mentioned that you want to have some kind of case studies and experiments where you take the power of community.
And I don't know. I would imagine you're alluding to getting on to multiplier and gotcha. You want to have some kind of case studies and experiments where you take the power of community.
And I don't know, I would imagine you're alluding to like getting on to multiplier and gotcha.
Hopefully with them just willing because they see the activity of the community and the power of it.
So it's hopefully them just willing to buy some supply, maybe rather than you allocating supply to them or maybe a better deal than they would cut someone else do you have anything that you
are like planning to do and reach for after you have a few successful case studies demonstrating
the power of the community's attention uh for sure i'm just not gonna tell you what they are
but they for sure we do have some uh some targets thank you no doubt yeah not just because it's you
luke i wouldn't tell anybody we gotta keep got to keep some stuff under our hats here.
Okay. Well, real quick, real quick, just off the top of your head, you said you want 100,000 holders.
And obviously there are a lot of people that are getting an allocation. Do you have an approximate number if everyone that's already signed up goes and claims their allocation, how many holders you'll have?
No, because there's the data. It's very hard to get the right data in this industry in general. So we did it by roles and discord, as you know, and it's hard to cross check because of the privacy of Collabland, which makes sense.
You know, I can't say, hey, give me a list of the wallets and the roles. We know who got roles, but I don't know how many, I don't know what the average roles per holder is. So until claim day, I won't know what the average rolls per holder is. So until, until claim day, I won't know.
My guesstimate is my guesstimate is we'll start.
I mean, it swings.
My guess is anywhere from four to 8,000 holders at launch, but I don't know really.
Well, damn, thank you.
Two things that I will, three things.
One, thank you for saying i'm not annoying two i would not say i'm cool but i don't think i'm annoying and three i'm part of
that pre-sale group that people probably got greedy in and either overspent or shared it out
to people they shouldn't have so if um, yeah, hopefully they resolve it in, in our favor.
Cause I'm going to,
you know,
I'm trying to grind,
but anyway,
we resolve,
we're going to refund it.
Like,
again,
we had a certain amount and we're going to stick that amount.
like hopefully they get the MFers out.
That shouldn't be there and I can stay.
Thanks Luke.
LOL.
Docs. ahead any last words
oh I was just gonna say
I did
I was like okay I'm gonna do two random
or like two claws
like while I'm on spaces
and then I did two and I was like
alright one more and then I did two and I was like all right one more and then I got a
a Pikachu that was pretty dope and it was like 50 bucks and I was like but I don't I don't really
want to keep it so I swapped it and I was like I'll go one more and then it was it was the fucking
Mewtwo I got the Mewtwo EX uh Shining Legends Mewtwo GX tag nine like it's it was one of the grails i haven't hit a grail yet that was crazy
so yeah i'm i'm happy about that good stuff let's fucking go did you just do the meme where
it's like the guy mining and it's like don't stop mining because the gold's on the other side of the
rock did you just like reinforce that for everybody? Dang, that's good.
Yeah, I did.
Don't stop grinding.
Don't stop grinding, dude.
I'm not going to.
I should probably at this point download it.
Yo, LOL.
Too bad Dachshund can't win the giveaway.
Shout out to Odeka.
He is our fourth winner.
Congratulations, even though he's like, I got this, but I swapped it out. We encourage to Odeka. He is our fourth winner. Congratulations. Even though he's like,
I got this, but I swapped it out. We encourage the swap. Swap, baby. Swap it out. We encourage
the swap. Thank you guys for pulling up today, Ponce. Thank you. Thank you so much, not only
for coming through today, but for blessing the BZ community with some allocation. Really, really appreciate
it. We already knew we were better than 90% of NFT projects, but now you are just continuously
proving this thesis. So thank you. Ponds, any advice for founders out there, communities out
there, members out there that are in a community maybe want to make it better? Any advice at all?
there, members out there that are in a community maybe want to make it better?
Any advice at all?
I don't know.
I don't know what advice I'd give.
No, I don't have any, but I appreciate you asking me.
Yeah, thank you.
That was a test.
I knew he was going to say that.
This guy will never lie to you.
He would never lie to you.
He would just say it was on his heart.
Any activations for the Frogs coming up soon?
Any IRL stuff happening that
you planning in the next few months? No, nothing planned yet. I know, um, the, the bearish
community is going to be at NFT NYC. We might do something, you know, with them for the frogs and
grind community. Cause it's going to be right after launch, but nothing, nothing specifically
planned. As you know, I'm not great with planning that crap
because i don't go to them so um but maybe in uh maybe an art basel this year with your thing
we'll talk about that some more love it love it thank you ponds thank you for your time today
thank you everybody for tuning in if you haven't already get ahead ahead, get a BZ account. All the links are below.
And congratulations to all the winners.
And the Grind Quest is officially live.
It's pinned to the BZ Twitter.
Well, it's the first BZ tweet, basically.
And all the specifics are there.
Looking forward to giving you guys that allocation.
Pons, thank you again.
Doxon, thank you. DudeLifts,
AudioMac, Uncle Brim,
everybody, thank you so much. Everybody,
have a good evening. Drink water.
Good night.
Take care.
