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The Conversation
Recorded: Dec. 7, 2025 Duration: 3:38:33Space Recording
Short Summary
In a recent discussion, key topics emerged around the launch of a new Discord server aimed at enhancing community engagement, the impact of algorithm changes on content reach, and the rising costs of technology components, signaling both growth and challenges in the crypto and tech landscape.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. Hello, welcome.
It's going to be like, I don't really see today as any much of a too special thing,
but it could be nice. We'll see what happens.
We'll probably keep this going for like one to two hours,
and then we'll head into the Discord server,
and I'll do the subs only thing that I usually do every single day.
So yeah, we're going to do that.
We had a very good night yesterday.
That's why I didn't stream.
So yeah, I was just kind of like doing things there and we were having a bit of a conversation.
It was very, very nice.
It was very good.
It was an amazing conversation.
So yeah, really enjoyed that.
A lot of interesting things.
Like I used to host conversation spaces like daily, right? I'm pretty sure that a lot of people really enjoyed that. A lot of interesting things. Like, I used to host conversation spaces, like, daily, right?
I'm pretty sure that a lot of people still remember that.
And we kind of, like, pivoted from doing that daily on Spaces
to, like, doing this as, like, a feature for the Noetic Order on the Discord,
like, the Noetic Order Discord server,
because, like, it turned out, you know,
that's one of the better ways to kind of, like, you know, get the people. I say, for instance, there's a lot of people here that have followed me for many years.
And, you know, some of those would love to, you know, support me further.
And so the way that, you know, I saw was best way to actually like enable doing that was to just open up a Discord server and set up a special subscriber thing there.
thing there because the thing is like around here it's pretty difficult to like create a proper like
actual managed community kind of like space slash forum because like there is very limited tools
that allow you to do some of these things right and like discord is actually really good for
community management so that's why i'm like doing that on top of this whole thing as well which is
you know it's pretty good it wants to have a whole bunch of new features, which is pretty neat.
Anyways, on top of this, everybody, please make sure to quote post the space with
join the conversation so that more people can, in fact, join and see that we are live.
So, yeah.
Another interesting thing that's kind of happened is that the algorithm of late has been
very ass, you know?
Like, it's very unpopular to speak of technology to do all of these things.
Largely, everybody is now focused on politics, which is going to probably get worse over the
foreseeable future. My reasoning in that being that, like, I just kind of see where these things
go. And there's really the signs of politics do not really slow down.
It's going to keep increasing.
And we've discussed this last week and even yesterday as well,
where it's like the idea that there'll come a narrative war
and this is how it's going to be,
and that the need for politics is not going to slow down.
So that's going to be particularly asked for somebody like myself,
who has taken the stance of not wanting to be inside of
or associated with anything political.
The small aspect to that is that people actually want to see these things now.
And it's very problematic for someone like me.
So it's like, that's really annoying.
This is the only bit that I think is interesting.
Like, you want to post about these interests,
you want to post about space, you want to post about these interests, you want to post about space,
you want to post about technology,
and you can't really do any of those things because at the moment,
there's almost no fucking reach on it whatsoever.
The algorithm does not sort it properly.
Grok is dragging its feet on that, and it just doesn't stop.
There are nice bits here and there.
Every now and then you get a few wins that are very nice,
but those wins are very few and far between.
So there's that.
So, yeah.
Let me pin this to the space right there
so people can actually see.
That's the Discord server, by the way,
in case anybody wants to join after this.
So we'll do this whole thing for like an hour or so
and then we'll go through.
Hey, Synthetic, I haven't seen you around in a bit.
How are you doing?
Hey, pretty good. yeah building things yeah like 24 7 can't talk about it yet but it's pretty
cool nice nice yeah we're sure cool things are coming eh yeah awesome is there what are you
like doing a bit of a doing a bit of a saturday type deal, or are you just came here to chill?
I'm actually working while I'm on the space.
Nice. A little bit of distraction to help you get locked in?
Yeah, exactly.
Makes sense. A bit of radio.
I like to show up as often as I can.
That's true.
Yeah, yeah. At least for the weekly ones on X, it is.
Yeah, 100%. Yeah, we're good. that's true yeah yeah yeah at least for the weekly ones on x so there's yeah yeah 100 100
yeah we're good how have things been going with you oh they've been going pretty well actually
um yeah we're doing our things it's been relatively well i've been very busy as as i'm pretty sure
many people can tell even the absence of posting is always a sign that i'm like exceedingly busy
but yeah just just creating some more stability the really annoying bits usually come towards like the end
of the year where like there's a ton of um small little events and such so that's that's having an
impact so yeah while that is happening we have to like figure out a whole bunch of like you know
bureaucratic stuff and whatnot so it's interesting like everybody's working I feel like this has been
this year has been a different kind of grueling task like last year was all about like you know um figuring out how to like attain
relevance and do all these things and just general meme wars and then this year was just all about
finance man it was the year of finance realistically it was about merit and like you know freeing
oneself out of like specific situations and being shown effectively a type of truth so that's what
this year has all been all about and it i think that many that's what this year has been all about.
And I think that many can agree that this year has been kind of like a normal year in
some ways.
There's shit bits and there's like fun bits, but it's a very somewhat like almost boring
year in many ways.
You have events in between that have like, of course, you know, changed that a bit around.
You know, you've had political incidents, economic incidents.
For instance, right now we have a compute problem.
Some of the manufacturers are just giving up on the fucking consumer market because of AI.
And it's like, now the RAM inside of my computer has effectively tripled in value.
Holy shit.
That is a very eventful situation
yeah hardware has been wild yeah ais are just kind of like a you know new thing comes out
it's minor improvement but now everybody's everyone's attacking the foundation that's
like oh fuck we got to talk about the hardware problem which is also interesting because you
know peter thiel like you know sold some of his position in like nvidia not because um i think that he believes that nvidia is going to go to shit but largely because i think he just
wants to buy something else and he just needed the money um because like here's the important
thing to know when somebody liquidates their stock in something it doesn't often mean that
they say oh i don't care about the stock anymore and i think that the company's going to go to
shit no it actually means that they probably needed money right like for instance if somebody instance, if somebody says, like, you have a large position in something and
you start liquidating a little bit of that, you just probably need the money.
Like, that's what a lot of people do.
Even rich people, they do the same thing.
They hold all of their money in assets, specifically stocks.
A lot of them are just holding in stocks, right?
And so in order to get the money out of that, you have to sell them.
So, you know, you do the thing.
And a lot of people just sell their stock.
And that happens. and that's perfectly fine
that doesn't mean that the company is going to go down
and I think until the foundation of compute
is fundamentally attacked and destroyed
then I think that
nothing much will change on the AI front
beyond just more optimization
and trying to get the thing to be useful
in a deterministic fashion
but like
on the compute front, I think
there will be a small adjustment.
One of the adjustments that I think will be coming
is largely an ASIC-focused approach.
We discovered that compute is fine.
Like, it's great.
It's awesome.
But we're making it very general.
And there's a lot of, so inefficiency comes with that as well, right?
For consumer products, we're making everything very, very general, right?
And so you can't just make purpose-specific compute,
and it would actually perform better at the task
that it's supposed to be performing.
Say, for instance, a great example of this
is that we used to have CPU and GPU mining for Bitcoin.
And then eventually people were like,
hey, man, we can infinitely improve the GPUs. But at some point, it's just
like there's there's a limit, you can't really like do that anymore. So then we came up with
the ASIC compute to do that, right. So now we do this, now we know we do specific purpose built
just for that, right. And it works perfectly. Like it'll outperform any CPU, any GPU by an immense
margin, because it's built for
this specific task that it's supposed to be doing which is mining Bitcoin
however caveat of course that shit is useless for everything else Bitcoin is
like the the the the the the the the AC computer for that is completely useless
for anything else other than just generating heat which is what a lot of
people like use the old computers for like if you ever like heard somebody say
hey I'm a bitcoiner and I'm in bitcoin to generate heat that's because like you can either just take
a uh you could take a like walmart's fucking heater and go like oh yeah i heat my air using
this thing and waste your fucking money waste your fucking energy or you can just mine bitcoins
and that heats your shit up anyways because well you know it's a thing that happens maybe a little
noisy but it will work.
So, yeah, it'll generate heat all the same,
and it'll actually make you some of the money back.
A little bit, not as much, but a little bit.
It's better than nothing, which is what exactly
you'll be getting if you're just using a normal heater.
But yeah, so, like, Async Compute, I think,
is going to make a major comeback as well,
given that its simplicity and, you know,
its efficiency.
So, yeah, I think
that we're going to see a very
big problem with, like, generalized compute,
and we're going to see a physical,
like, lots of things will be very
physical, I think, in the future.
We'll be very physically focused, because we already did the
software loop, we're trying to, like, squeeze as much compute
that we can out of the, sorry,
we try to squeeze as much performance out of the existing compute via the software like you're even using
storage as fucking ram now like running out of everything so it's like fuck we need ram okay
cool use ram run out of ram fuck what else do we do i would use storage and like elliot posted this
fucking thing it's like hey i'm gonna use this as ram and everybody's like lost their shit
and you know it was kind of like accidental in a sense,
but he looked at it and went like, hmm, you know what?
We're going to try this.
And he actually did that and he pulled it off
and he was able to do it properly.
And then he was actually one of the first people
to start using storage effectively as like fucking rap.
It's a whole thing.
It's a whole fucking thing.
Speaking of Asics, as we've seen that company,
they've been around for a couple of years.
It's like Cerebris or something.
And basically the idea is they have a wafer size gpu chip so it's like the size of a dinner plate
real that's interesting and it's super like they have like a demo or whatever i tried it out the
other day so fast so incredibly fast like you're you put in a prompt and it's just
like coming so basically the idea is that uh you're already going to do physical networking
of the gpus so why don't you just like you know take the whole dinner plate of like you know
silicon and turn it into a singular gpu and then the efficiency is technically higher right yeah
you can run like the whole model on one chip. Oh, single. Yeah.
Insane. That's pretty good.
Yeah, because sometimes I look at like the little
actual chip, and it's the
tiniest fucking thing. It's like, it's
just this little thing, and the rest is just like, you know,
PCB and the fucking
you know,
cooling and whatnot. Like, the
actual chip, the actual GPU,
it's not this thick brick, it's actually this tiny little thing that's like the actual chip the actual gpu is not this thick brick it's actually
this tiny little thing that's like the size of an sd card pretty much you know that adds wild to me
little people actually don't understand that yeah it makes a lot of sense if you're just
gonna put it in a server somewhere you know why why have uh 50 gpus when you can just have one giant chip and one cooling system
real
that should be interesting
we'll see how well they do that
we'll see where it goes
I think it's still kind of early days
even though they've been doing it for a couple years
I don't know if it has widespread adoption
like Nvidia has
yeah the other little bit like Nvidia has. Yeah.
The other
little bit is
I don't know what
it's going to look like.
How do I explain this?
So Sue Reba asks who's making this.
Are they the ones who are making this?
Or are they Caltechdant?
Oh, okay.
Yeah, so let's see if I can...
I'll send you the link.
Mm-hmm.
Off the top of your head, do you know the precision that they have?
Like what process they're using?
I think it's 5 nanometer.
I think that's what it was.
That's pretty good.
Yeah, and they have some kind of setup,
because obviously the downside for doing an entire wafer
size chip is you're gonna have some that don't come out right yeah and then you have to like
basically discard the whole wafer plate right but they they figured out a way around it so they're
building their kind of matrix from the ground up is built to network around like the bad cores.
So they basically it's,
so it's basically very similar to how Intel like creates the,
the, those chips where they go,
we're going to have different gradients of the same thing.
And then,
you know,
the gradients are determined by however many cores have failed in the thing.
And then if they're like many cores,
it's a higher number.
If they're lesser cores,
it's a lower number. And we can price those out independently. Is that correct? Kind of many cores it's a higher number if they're lesser cores that's a lower number and we could price those out independently is that correct kind of it but
it's all like basically they have one standard so they're saying like we have i don't know
900 000 cores on this or something that are active and that's that's a production unit
and if it's below that for some reason then it's trash interesting okay so it's different they
don't have like multiple gradients they have that as they're like they're they're lying yeah so
they're assuming that some of them are gonna be bad like some percentage of it but that's they're
just saying that's the the standard is it has this at least this many active course it goes out the
door interesting yeah yeah it makes a lot of sense. It's pretty good.
The one I don't like is the one I don't like so much is Etched.
Because the thing is, Etched assumes
that you'll have a model that you don't want to change.
And that's a problem, because you will always
have a model that you want to change. And that's the idea a problem because you will always have a model that you want to change
and that's the idea of like actual you know yeah because you're gonna have you know next
year you're gonna have something better interesting interesting entrance to open I'm trying to throw up a lot of a sec.
Oh, okay.
Function auto-complete.
I should run this by Elliot to see what he thinks of this.
Yeah, I'd be interested, because I found this the other day
and I was like, man, that's amazing.
I've heard
of these guys before i never really looked into them as much there's also like you know different
that everybody's like trying to address the compute problem in some way including like
decentralized computers well via things like you know ted store and like you know
like ted store is actually really funny they're going to come up with something to
fuck with nvidia well they're not really essentially but you know yeah yeah one
of the selling points that they kind of that stands out uh they say like no number of gpus
can match the speed right because it's all on one chip so right the efficiency is way better
The efficiency, so you don't have to worry about the networking latency and all that stuff.
the efficiency so you don't have to worry about the networking latency and all that stuff
Yeah.
It's not as powerful as infinite GPUs, but it's faster.
Yeah.
I mean, at that point, you have to ask yourself, power and speed, they're kind of like, at some point, it's kind of interchangeable in some ways, isn't it?
It's kind of scary how fast it is.
Nice.
Yeah, I think a lot of this kind of stuff is going to start coming up
where people are solving the compute problem in
interesting and innovative ways.
Let me just do this again
It's interesting how ancient computer parts Are going up
DDR3 RAM is even going up
Yeah yeah because everybody wants to RAM,
they're like, oh, fuck it, we'll just take whatever we can get.
I mean, I think, like, I figured it would take a while
for all that to, like, lag into the consumer market.
Not really, because, like,
the thing is, when you talk to some of these people
who want to, like, squeeze as much shit as possible
out of, like, you know, whatever they have,
then the conversation, it evolves at a very rapid pace. And it makes you think, oh, wow, I'm actually surprised it isn't going faster.
That would be my thing.
Because like a lot of people, they're very action based now.
So as soon as something comes out where it's like, oh, this is going to give us the edge, they'll act immediately.
Which is also why like, you know, NVIDIA stock tanked a little bit when Deep Seek was first released.
Remember that? Where like everybody's going, oh, fuck, you know, NVIDIA stock tanked a little bit when DeepSeek was first released, remember that?
Where, like, everybody's going, oh, fuck, we don't actually need this much compute.
And so immediately everyone was, like, reacting,
panicking, right? So you didn't need that.
You didn't need to do that, but people still did it.
It was really bad, but, you know.
I mean, this is, like,
set off by Nikon stepping out
of the consumer market, right? Am I wrong
about that?
No, not really no i mean them stepping out of the consumer market how would that affect the the big
businesses because wouldn't like runs to like aren't they still that's going to affect everybody
else on top of that that's just a that's just an extra that's just a a cherry on top of the sundae
i have a good thing.
I've got my 256 gigs, and I'm good.
You got your what?
My 256 gigs of RAM.
What the fuck?
Not even a terabyte?
Adorable. I don't even a terabyte adorable why do you have that much ram
are you using that ram yeah yeah for like uh like maps and stuff
but like what like maps a lot of like maps, like really, really detailed maps for stuff
that I'm not going to talk about here, but yeah.
You don't use your giant pool of RAM as a storage drive
for your gaming? Makes map loading super fast. It's great.
No, not those types of maps, but yeah.
Like LiDAR or something? Point clouds?
I mean, I did use some of that in agriculture when I was in the industry, but I'm not doing any of that anymore.
I'm not going to talk into it because I'm not going to dox myself.
If you guys didn't know, you can actually do that.
You can install Halo Infinite onto what's called a RAM drive or a RAM disk.
Basically, you allocate part of your RAM as a hard drive for your computer.
And if you install the game directly onto that, it will load so much quicker than if it's going from the hard drive.
Interesting. load so much quicker than if it's going from the hard drive interesting now it gets deleted every time you turn your computer off
but it does work real quick
hmm how about that
yeah it was the interesting thing it's fun to play with if you've never done it
interesting way to cause some bugs to happen in games or at least back in the day you'd throw
something on a ram disc and it would load too quick for the processing of the engine
i happen i think i remember it happening with uh black ops 3 was i was testing it and one
interesting thing it would do is every time you would throw a
throwing axe, when the axe
landed, it would just split into like eight or
so different axes
on the ground. Nuts.
It's like computers aren't designed
to be that way, so it's not like it's something
that you test in game development.
What if the person's running the game from a RAM ram disc then they're a weirdo and they deserve to
encounter bugs clearly real
yeah i mean i remember i went to a recording studio once and they were using it for that.
I'm like, this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
If the power goes out, your entire session is just gone.
It's actually a pretty good way to wipe evidence too, isn't it?
Like imagine you just run everything off the fucking RAM and you just turn the computer off.
It's completely wiped.
Nothing can get any of that back, right?
I mean, when the computer turns off,
the RAM's going to stay in the state it was in, I guess.
Hypothetically, until it gets more current through it,
you could reverse engineer that.
That'd be real fucking difficult, but you could do it.
All right.
Hypothetically'm not exactly.
Don't quote me on that one.
Based on my understanding of how it works.
It's kind of like when somebody doesn't format a hard drive that they've deleted everything from.
Except when you turn the computer on, it gets wiped.
I do not remember if they retained their state on power off
or power on.
I forget which power cycle
it's on. It's never really been an important
thing to know.
They could basically just restart it
and the computer
would wipe everything, no?
Yep.
I mean, people
fuck around with the RAM a whole lot.
That was one of the ways that cheating was and technically is still done.
They just fuck around with the RAM because you can actually change things in there.
And the game will just go, uh, yes.
And that's it.
It's something that's real fun to do
with really old video games because it's a lot
easier to find everything.
One of the
examples that comes to
mind is, I think,
five or six years ago, there was a news article
where somebody was like,
new uncovered hidden
part of map of a first Zelda game
discovered. It was really just somebody altered the memory things to be on the left side of the
map instead of the right side of the map because the data for the map position in that game is
stored in like half of a byte or two thirds of a byte. So the reason that the map isn't a perfect
square is because they cut that data in half.
If you just change one of those values, then instead of being in coordinate 1, 1,
you'd be in coordinate negative 1, 1 on the bottom side of the map,
which isn't normally accessible.
I just thought that was like the way the article is written.
It's like, oh, new undiscovered level in 80 year old video game like this is just a
memory edit you can do this in any game and i did the exact same thing with metroid which also has
a map that's cut in half i don't think you know pokemon with the like the game's dark and stuff
the coolest thing about the old pokemon things is that somebody was like
they disassembled the memory and they're just like all right if you stand in this title and
you take this item and move it to this part in your inventory now you have infinite master balls
Cast your balls.
yeah yeah you could have infinite
Yeah, yeah. You could have infinite
rings and just level all your guys
to 99.
It's okay.
In Pokemon
Red and Blue, there's that guy
who stops you from going to
leaving the first gym
without beating Brock.
But if you go to the guy
who says the thing
and you save the game
right as he sees you, you can actually exit out of the game and you save the game right as he sees
you. You can actually exit out of the game
and load back in. Then when you do,
you'll be like on the
corner of the map so you can just walk
up along the edge and the
side of the wall. It's fun stuff.
Yeah, I watched it speedrun. They did that.
It was really interesting.
I was like, oh wow, he did that.
It's crazy.
Good old school bugs.
Some of the
guides that came out
years later. It's like, this is
how you get Mew. You have to go into this
title and you have to move
six spaces to the left
and you have to open your inventory and move this
here. I'm just like, wow, you have a
lot of time on your hands.
Oh, I have to do it with the original cartridge.
Just use the game Genie, dude.
Nobody's judging you.
That's how we all got Mew.
or you would just catch missing though and really hope that your game fucked up in the right way
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
catching one of those just fucked your game it's great
i remember i don't know how i did it i could never repeat it
but i accidentally made um i don't remember the name of the Pokemon.
It was that little seal one.
I made it level 255 on accident.
Because I guess it went to 256 and down.
And I could never repeat that.
And I tried for it like a-ass time as a kid.
But every
time I used it to attack, it would
lose a level.
So I wouldn't use it, so it was
pointless of having it anyway.
I know you could do that with the Game Genie.
You'd just be like, max level Pokemon,
255. And I'd be like, wow, you used a whole short for this.
You could have used one less bit.
Yeah, it's fun.
Missing now, missing now.
And then one of the most wonderful things,
one of the things that does make playing with these old games so fun is seeing how programmers had to organize their bits for the very very
limited amount of ram that they had it's amazing they could actually like make these games with
the limited memory but yeah it's crazy nowadays we're gonna see return
we're gonna see return of these things because like here's the thing right hardware is becoming
exceedingly more expensive and the dumbest things that i've ever heard out of people was things like
oh but if we have more ai the computer's gonna actually get better because we need more of the
computers like no actually what's going to end up happening is that the prices for everything are
going to go up all the compute remains pretty much exactly the fucking same people will try to
squeeze a whole bunch more extra performance out of the cube by optimizing the fucking software and
that will be the end of exactly that story and you will be the one who gets fucked so it's like
well actually what's going to happen is that we actually need to think about how to optimize
things again which is what we're already doing and which is going to be the thing that gives you a
lot of money next time right like you can create more hardware which is probably just going to be the async meta you could create
newer forms of the same hardware which is going to maybe take nvidia out of power which i don't
really think it's going to happen anytime soon or you could just go hey we need to just quantize
everything we just need to be better and optimize because like look games for instance these days and software in general is bloated as
shit
we just get like
away with so much stuff we just go
a computer can handle it the average computer is like
xyz whatever the fuck and you just have like
your specs you know you like have the games on steam
or anywhere else and it's not steam's problem by the way
they're just a platform they're actually really good I love them
but like you see there what are the
or any website for that matter, you see
requirements to run this game.
And it's like, okay,
all the previous two generations
of, like, compute are all dead in the water
now because they just don't fucking do it. So they go, hey,
here's our limit. If it can
run on this, and running is with
caveats, then yes, this is good.
We can, like, actually sell this shit. But then
you have to, like, do some really fucking retarded shit. Like, say, for yes, this is good. We can actually sell this shit. But then you have to do some really fucking retarded shit.
Say, for instance, if you play
Borderlands, the latest Borderlands,
there was this problem where basically what would
happen is a very similar thing as to what would happen
with Halo Infinite, which is that
the map would just, everything would
just start lagging out for some
fucking reason. You didn't know why the frame rate
would go to shit. You'd start'd start at, like, 100 frames
and go to, like, less than 60 frames.
And then you'd go, what is going on here?
Until somebody discovered, hey, by the way, guys,
in order to fix this problem, you have to allocate
100 gigabytes to the shader cache.
Yes.
So, like, whoa.
So now we do that.
And it's like, hang on a second. You're, like, at a game studio, you're being paid an exorbitant amount of money.
What is going on here? Why are you not like, huh?
What is this? I thought we were supposed to optimize these things before we ship them back to consumers.
It turns out that that was not being done.
So that's fun.
Yeah, a lot of companies stopped doing that on computers a while ago.
I remember it became a trend.
preloaded shaders for different hardware specs.
Eventually, they're like, oh, we can just generate these dynamically,
which allowed them to make even more complex
light maps. All you had to do was wait for the shaders to render like you do
in Halo.
That little bar when you first play it, it's like preloading shaders.
It's like, oh, great.
But with modern games, it's ridiculous what people get away with.
I'm playing a game with loading screens in 2025.
That means you have not thought about preloading the map before you load into it ahead of time.
This is a thing we can do with the technology.
We've been able to do it for about a decade now.
We have enough RAM for this.
But instead, we just made the maps bigger.
And we wasted it all on 4K textures.
Yeah.
I just hope the new GTA 6 doesn't have insane loading screens like GTA 5 did.
Because that was annoying, man.
You're trying to play online.
It's like loading, loading, loading.
Like every 10 minutes, loading. loading i remember what was it grand theft auto 4 was that the last one to come out on xbox 360 or was
that five like you would go half a block and it'd be like here's five minutes of loading screen Bro. We get away from that shit with the next one.
We'll see. We'll see.
It might be coming out next year.
The thing that really gets me is when I'm playing an RPG that has a set
number of places that you can go,
if there's only two possible
small maps that you could load
into, just preload those
maps. We don't need to bring loading screens
into this. You can just keep them
loaded in the background.
It's not going to hurt anything.
Like load as it plays kind of thing.
Yeah, I prefer that.
You load into the first map, and then
in the background, on a separate
thread, you load the other
map. So when it goes, and it goes,
oh, I want to go here, you already have it
loaded. It's not rocket science.
But for some reason, people don't implement it.
It drives me up a wall.
Especially if it's not exactly a graphically intense game at all.
What's your excuse?
Path of Exile is a great example of this.
Why the fuck is that game so graphically intensive?
It doesn't have to be. It's
basically Diablo 3 on the graphics front.
It's not exactly...
It's a little bit faster than Diablo, which is kind of nice.
I mean, than Diablo
3? Diablo 4
was an unoptimized piece of shit,
but Diablo 3...
He played Diablo 2 Resurrected. I tried it
the other day. I went through a couple of waypoints,
and it's snappy as hell. It'll just load the waypoint
instantly. Diablo 4
takes forever.
It's because one
was optimized for really, really old
potato hardware.
Yeah, of course.
The other one's just like, we need to cater for the
most hardcore gamers out there
we need to make sure all of our texture maps are so up to par yeah pretty much pretty much
yeah i feel like the whole the whole culture started from nerds who were like yeah the
graphics are good enough but since playstation 3 i I would say, like, who cares?
I think, like, with graphics,
it's nice when a game looks flashy, but if the performance is complete ass, that's going to be
an issue. Like, I think games can be visually
stimulating, and you have the option to, like, you know, just
kind of shut certain things down so it isn't as
visual so that you get better performance, and that's, like,
the most hardcore. But some people just want to have fun, right?
Like, I think, if you say, for instance, have, like,
a simulation,
let's say Star Wars,
actually, let's say Disney is actually intelligent,
right? And they build a game.
They could, like, build a game that is
basically you fighting on the ground
on this, like,
Pacific,
like, South Pacific island-looking
planet thing, right? Like, that's where you're fighting,
so you have a lot of really cool stuff to work with. You've got water simulations, you have trees,
you have all of these things. Now, if all of that would look really nice and visual, and you're
like fighting on the ground, you're fighting in the sky, you're fighting in any of those ways,
imagine like basically Battlefield, but it's like Star Wars and it's on that planet. You're
going to have a lot of cool things happen. What gamers really want there is to have like
cinematic experiences out of that with just the right amount of unrealistic physics because that's what actually
makes the game fun. Like one of the reasons why I like Halo Infinite is because the physics are
like the visuals are quite realistic but the physics are just completely unrealistic in so
many ways which I think is really funny like especially when you play the campaign with all
like the skulls enabled just like turns it into a totally different world.
Vehicles can fly if you throw
grenades on them.
The enemies will fly the wrong way if you
accidentally happen to strike them with your
massive impact grapple thing,
or you shoot them with a fucking cannon that's coming out of your dick.
It's really nice. It's beautiful.
Thanks. But I think that's what makes
a game fun. It's that
you have good visuals, you have good physics,
but you also have the ability
to just not need to
suffer realism in terms of
the physics that affect the character, because people want to escape
from reality and not live through a different version of it.
So it's like,
no fall damage, all these things,
take all that bullshit out. It could be lots
of fun, and then you have real graphics,
really nice looking stuff, very flashy cool everybody has fun and then that's your game and that will work out and the performance would also be relatively good and that's what
people want it's like you want realistic physics from the perspective of you impacting things but
you don't necessarily want the realistic physics to be rendered upon you and your behavior in the
game so that's why like you know halo mechanics are interesting because you can just do these things, but you don't necessarily want the realistic physics to be rendered upon you and your behavior in the game.
So that's why the Halo mechanics are interesting, because you can just do
these insane feats and run around,
whereas in Call of Duty it's not as fun.
It's way too realistic. And that's the problem.
People don't necessarily want
realism.
They want
fun. Stuff
needs to be fun.
And with Call of Duty specifically, they really
need that ragdoll thing in there.
Yeah, it's hilarious.
Yeah, especially if you
take that out, first-person shooter
games get real disturbing real quick.
It's a thing.
Realistic death movement. It's very
unsettling if you've ever played a game
with it
it's like you just shoot a guy and you're like
oh I feel a little bad
I feel a lot bad
as opposed to
when you shoot somebody and they're just like
so much more fun
yeah
even in Halo it's like hey you blow up the guy and he's
like stuck inside of the phone now he's just kind of hanging there and it's like okay that's hilarious
like are we dying your body's just like in mid-air going oh what do i do
it's just kind of like doing this thing it's a funny glitch like it's it's funny if it's like
i'm glad they didn't fix this because it's just there
and your body just spins around and just does this thing
like it's a perfect circular motion
that's just slow enough
so that it doesn't look too comical
but looks absolutely fucking hilarious
and you just look at it and go, uh, okay.
So that guy's possessed.
Every time I see it, it looks like...
If you've ever seen the videos of people on the international
space station when somebody just puts them in the middle of a room and they're just like ah
yeah no way to get back
amazing Chief, Chief, just
spit. You'll push yourself
back. Just spit real hard. It's fine.
I'm wearing a helmet.
Oh, yeah.
It's amazing.
I think it's fun.
Like, these things, like,
so I'm excited for, like next version the next version of halo
is going to be like you know the remake so we're going to see how well that is just better visuals
because at some point the visuals do count it's like you play a game like uh the ce right you like
but you play campaign evolve i mean not campaign evolves that's what they're going to call it
campaign evolve as i call it evolve um so you play like ce the original for the first time
and you just play through it.
And as a kid, you absolutely enjoy this.
And then as an adult, you come back to it, and you see all the really messed up-ass graphics,
because you've seen the world, and you've seen more advanced games, and all this kind of stuff.
And it doesn't feel quite the same way. You still get the nostalgia of it.
But the thing is, with the remake, what it's going to look like, basically,
it will be the feeling of you know what you felt as
a child seeing that for the first time because you weren't used to like proper like graphic
simulations or any of these things and most of your movies will kind of ask too so then you like
see these simulations for the first time you actually get to play with them it's like oh my
god this is like this is like crack to me now right you know so the way that that game will
look with the great visuals and everything and of course the insane compute demand which it will have, it's like, this is what the game looks like...
Like, it looks like now, what it looked like to you back then when you didn't know what the world looked like.
So now you just have this experience again, you have like the flashy lights and everything.
Like, it's gonna totally eat the computer by the way, it's gonna be absolutely insane,
because they're gonna have ray tracing and everything
because you can see like when they were shooting these like little globules of plasma down the hallway
You could see the lighting kind of like bounce off places. It really it's gonna be really interesting
I think that's actually pretty cool because normally in games you don't have that you have like this bright fucking orb
And I'm just like throwing it at somebody and it does nothing for the lighting effects. I'm like bro. What the fuck?
And I'm just throwing it at somebody, and it does nothing for the lighting effects.
I'm like, bro, what the fuck?
And that actually annoys me.
I want there to be effects.
I want there to be lighting effects.
So it could be really fun.
It would look really cool.
Very nice, visually stimulating.
I actually like that.
So we're going to see what it's like.
They're going to not have things like the grapple and such, which will restrict movement for a bit.
But it's not going to be that much of a problem for me.
I can adapt.
So yeah.
I think that game could be really fun.
And it's done in Unreal Engine and everything.
So maybe we'll have some really realistic simulations.
I've seen things like the Gatling gun
overheating, which I really detest.
I hate in games when people who
fucking program these things don't know how actual guns work.
And it's like, dude, let's have the Gatling gun.
Let's just make it overheat randomly. I'm like,
Let's not do that. The point of a Gatling gun
is to make sure that you are firing a bullet at a certain interval
such that one of the barrels can cool down just enough
so that by the time the barrel gets used again, it is cooled down.
And it just does that in repetition.
It does not actually overheat as fast as people think it does.
Like, that's not what it's supposed to be doing.
That's really fucking annoying.
Now, of course, in Halo Infinite, it's
a different kind of unrealistic
in that you could just literally shoot infinitely.
I don't have a problem with that. I think it's fun.
Give me the infinite ammo. That's awesome.
I hate finite shit.
Like, you know, you play Halo Infinite, we're not playing Halo
Finite. You know, so I actually like that. I think
that's actually really nice, especially with, like, even if you have
the finite ammo mode on,
you can still fire it off the back of the car.
But, like, the thing is, games
have to be fun, and visuals are massively
important if you're doing things like story games.
And, by the way, of course, there is a
very high chance that
Half-Life 3 is going to
come out next year, or maybe at the end
of this year. I don't really see it as
potentially... I don't see it
as wise to do it this year. I don't really see it as potentially... I don't see it as wise to do it this year.
I think doing it next year
would make more sense, because then you'll
absolutely eat fucking like...
See, the thing is this, right?
I think this is going to coincide
perfectly with the launch
of the Steam Machine, or as
I like to call it, the Gabe Cube.
That's right.
The memetics are such we're going to call it the Gabe Cube.
Why? Because, you know, Gabe Newell.
So it's like, yeah, Gabe Cube.
We're going to call it the Gabe Cube, right?
But, like, if that thing launches
and you have Half-Life 3 on it,
dude, you are going to be eating
GTA's dinner
and lunch and breakfast.
It's going to be really bad.
It's going to be really bad for them.
Because the thing is this, right?
You release the game, GTA,
on your fucking consoles first.
Yeah, a lot of people are going to like it.
It's going to be pretty good.
But what are the PC players going to play?
What are they going to play?
They're going to play Half-Life 3.
That's what they're going to be playing.
They're going to be playing Half-Life 3. That's what they're going to be playing. They're going to be playing
Half-Life 3 on the fucking Steam
machine, on the Gabe Cube,
and they're going to love it.
That's what's going to happen.
Even if like, even if
GTA comes out first or
comes out afterwards, it's going to be totally different.
I think it actually makes a lot of sense that
you put those two things
out, kind of almost in succession, because a lot of sense that you put those two things out kind of almost
in succession because a lot of people are going to take out pto by the way all i'm saying is if
the release date comes in you may want to plan ahead a little bit you know if you want to take
pto that's the thing and for those of you have companies i want you to understand that probably
you're going to be hit with like a massive waves of people who want to take the days off on the
period when they when that's going to be released so uh prepare yourselves prepare yourselves a lot of your
workers are probably going to want to take a day off or two it's going to be a whole thing so yeah
you may need to like look for you know ways to incentivize that they don't do it or like whatever
the fuck and you like figure out how it's going to be done or hell play with them who knows figure
something out basically is the situation figure something out because you Figure something out, because you're going to be hit
with a massive wave of people wanting to take their leave
just so they can play
any one of those games that are going to come out.
Because a lot of interesting stuff is coming out in 2026,
because it will be a narrative war thing, right?
So, of course, you need games in order to
stimulate and or pacify
massive crowds of people, and so it's perfect, right?
Everything's perfect. You've got so much shiny new shit
coming out in, like, 2026 gonna be amazing like technology technology wise it's
gonna be actually quite an interesting time like i think it's gonna be a lot of fun for a lot of us
oh yeah i'm gonna upgrade my graphics card probably yeah shiny new toys man am i so glad
that i got the pieces of my computer when i did i like got all of that shit before the fucking
tariffs hit and now the RAM shortage? Fuck.
Oh, yeah. If I'd have waited
any longer, I would have gotten absolutely
shafted on the pricing. Like, holy
shit. It's crazy. Yeah.
I did not see this coming. I did not fucking
see this shit coming. I knew compute was gonna, like, you know,
go up in price, but I did not
see this coming. Holy shit. Like, that is
not something I assumed. I was like, there's gonna
be something. People are gonna, like, repurpose all these things.
The next thing, of course, that people are going to notice
is an energy crisis, actually.
That's the next bit.
And nobody's really talking about this,
but you will experience an energy crisis problem very, very soon.
Because we're building lots more data centers.
Our computer is getting more powerful and sucks more power
and sucks more current out of our sockets.
But we're actually not producing more energy.
Does anybody see a problem with this? anybody see a problem with this i see a problem with this why because there is less
shit to go around and more shit that people need you know what happens then prices go up
canada is a great example of this right yeah like vote for your strange little
fake environmentalist they call them fake environmentalists because they've never
actually stepped inside of a forest and did anything proper.
These people, they then go ahead
and they go, oh, we need to
do things
environmentally. We need to shut down the nuclear
power plants. We need to do all these things and then proceed to burn coal,
of course, which is fucking hilarious.
But very ironic. They still
burn coal and they burn natural gases
and all these things, like all the stuff that they're supposed to shut down.
Anyways, they keep doing that, but it's not enough and they actually
descale energy production and you got the people in canada who voted for these people
who voted for these things and they say oh my god it's the billionaires they're the ones
that built the data centers they're the ones that suck the current out of the sockets before
i could get them fuck you know and i'm like no dipshit you're the ones that suck the carrot out of the sockets before i could get them fuck you know and
i'm like no dipshit you're the guy who fucking voted for this and you want the energy to be to
be descaled they fucking told you this and you voted for the party that's entirely and wholly
on you and everyone else who's been sucked into this along with your dipshit ass decision
well they gotta suffer through it all the same and i don't think that your fellow man appreciates that
i don't think your fellow fellow man appreciates that.
I don't think your fellow man appreciated what you did there.
And you did it.
You did it consciously.
You knew exactly what you did.
Now you can't blame anybody else for it.
So that's Canada's situation,
is that you're running out of energy, right?
Because not only are we running out of compute as well,
which will be quelled eventually,
but we're running out of energy.
We're actually running out of energy.
It's going to be a huge problem.
Like, we need more energy.
There needs to be energy upscale.
China understands this.
This is why they've like done tons to like,
you know, ensure that they have massive amounts of energy production.
They have a whole bunch of other issues,
right?
They have like,
you know,
this,
this,
this,
this wild.
Right now their thing is they go to like improve their technology.
They got to improve their,
you know,
cultural like absorption when it comes to like intelligence,
because they're like, they keep doing this thing
where they basically just, like, assimilate
the knowledge out of, like, other places
and put that into their own thing
and they kind of make it their own thing.
They're doing that, but they're also kind of
slowing down on this in some ways,
which is very concerning.
And you can also see that that is followed
by higher rates of what people like to call
China's final warning,
which is almost this, like, joke
where it's, like, an empty threat, which is wildly unpopular.
I don't think it makes a lot of sense for you as a country that has grown out of doing asymmetrical warfare,
and that is economic, that you have the best economy, you have the most production, you have all of these things,
you have a lot of the talent, and you have the ability to create a lot of your own talent,
and your own means of creating that talent, to then go out and just say, hey, world, by the way, we're super powerful and we're just going to squeeze you a
little bit. Why? You don't need to do that. Why are you doing that? What the fuck? It's too early.
Wait 50 years. Wait 20, 50 years, man. Actually, wait 20. You're going to be able to do it after
that. Don't do it now. It's widely unpopular. Don't mess with that afterwards you can do that in 20 years do that in 20 years come back in 20 years
then you can squeeze the world actually you will be able to win right don't do it now it's why
very unpopular very bad i understand it i get it you want to flex off a little bit you know you
got the ability to flex off you have very nice looking muscles but just calm down calm down
there's better ways to do it just uh grow the density more you know
get the kickboxing training in you know get that whole thing done and then you can start flexing
off because then you can actually they can actually knock people out good shit right so
that would be like what i see out of china but aside from that they're doing very well
and everybody's trying to do their thing and what does europe do
by comparison what do any of those countries do hey guys let's make speech completely illegal
that's what they're doing by comparison so while so while asia is working on being productive
the west is working on what exactly?
Words?
Streamlined HR.
We're working on words.
And it's like,
I've seen this post that I think is absolutely hilarious to me.
I think it's really fucking funny.
But the
quote post is fucking hilarious.
The headline is
absolutely insane so you got the daily mail you know of course whatever that's worth so like
portland jury clears black man of assault because of white man's uh he stabbed that said the n-word
and the community note under that says the headline neglects to mention the victim only
used a racial slur after being stabbed. The article goes ahead to explain more.
And then the quote post of this
is that image of the fucking oracles
from that movie Minority Report
where a crime is detected before it happens.
So you have the pre-crime division.
And the post says,
at the pre-slur division,
we see slurs coming before they happen, and
disparaging agents to stab
perpetrators before they can even say
that.
That is fucking insane.
That is a badger right there, dude.
That is absolutely insane. By the way,
you do shit like this. You do shit like
this in Europe. You get absolutely destroyed.
You can go call a politician
fat. Call him fat.
Fat. Right? Say that. You know?
And then you get thrown in jail.
What?
I think if somebody stabs you, you should be able to call them
whatever you want.
You get thrown in jail.
What the fuck?
If somebody stabs me,
I'm not going to be calling them friend.
I'm just going to say fucknuckle.
Oh yeah, that's right, I'll get arrested too.
Fuck!
Actually, I might if somebody stabbed me.
I'll be like, hey friend, that wasn't very nice.
Blech.
Did y'all remember when Paula Deen got cancelled?
The TV show?
She was like robbed at a good point and called the guy the N-word.
That's wild.
She got cancelled for that.
That's insane.
Wow.
That's actually absolutely fucking insane.
So yeah, that's what that's doing.
So while everybody else is working on creating their empires,
Europe is like, hey, we gotta crush our citizens' ability to express
dissatisfaction at the decisions that our leaders have made.
And of course, a lot of those people are wildly unpopular, make no mistake.
They, you know, just try to crack down all these like social media platforms
by putting in a whole bunch of shit.
And yeah.
And hey, the base Germans and all these like, you know,
Europe accelerationist guys, they've been awfully silent.
I'm like, hmm, what was accelerationist guys. They've been awfully silent.
I'm like, hmm.
What was that you guys said about your technology?
What was that what you were going to do?
By the way, fun fact, you know, I'm from Germany myself.
I don't live there no more.
For obvious fucking reasons.
Got out there long ago because the signs were there that that whole place was going to go to shit.
Rapidly, so might I add.
Right?
So, many decades prior,
already out.
I was a kid. Gone.
Finished.
For good reason.
The cope is just immense.
The cope is absolutely immense. What is it now?
What are we doing now?
What's happening? It's a complete disaster down there. No innovation, only regulation.
It sucks tremendous ass.
Ooh, I'm going to have some...
Where's my milk?
Oh, there it is.
I'm going to get some milk.
I wonder when they're going gonna make that shit illegal.
They're probably just gonna supplement all of that with
like...
What is that?
Bug meal? Yeah, that's gonna probably
happen at some point as well. You're gonna be drinking
the protein juice, and it's gonna be
like the milk made out of bugs.
Pretty sure it's gonna happen.
I have a very strong feeling about that. They're gonna make
everything out of that. I mean, look, we're already
making this like um this this
this this thing uh what i like to call a mental illness drink which is the idea where basically
you take a whole bunch of nuts and you grind them up in like a kind of like a flower and make this
like weird slurry thing that looks by color like milk and add a whole bunch of like you know xanth
and gum and all that shit in there just to make it like appear as though it was something like
like that is mental illness right there so we're gonna like do the same thing for bugs i'm pretty
sure that's gonna happen yeah 100 bookmark this shit's gonna happen probably a very like if you're
already willing to do that to nuts then yeah on that same on that same notion how it's not like
the the, the description
of the product is exceedingly deceptive
because you say it's nut milk,
right? I'm like, explain to me the process
of how you milk nut.
Go ahead. Where do almonds
keep their nipples?
So they're going to make the
milk.
I cannot hear
anything you said.
You sound like you're in a car speaking through
one of those legacy
stereo systems
with the buttons on them and still.
That's what it sounds like, am I right?
It sounds like he's out of Cadillac from the 90s.
Bruh, they didn't even have microphones.
Yeah, it did.
They've had them since the 80s.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah, car phones and all that.
Real fun.
Yeah, it used to be super expensive.
Yeah.
There's like thick brick phone.
Like the entire
center council was just your car phone.
Yeah. Used to be the thing that all the rich people had. It's like, oh, he's got a car The entire center council was just your car phone.
Yeah.
Used to be the thing that all the rich people had.
It's like, oh, he's got a car phone.
Look at him.
Look at him.
Look at a dude.
Look at a dude.
You know?
Yeah.
There was a whole thing.
Everybody had a car phone.
You need to have a car phone.
Today, it's just like, whatever the fuck.
You have all these weird vanity metrics that are totally different.
But back then, it was, you have a a car phone you got the biggest stereo system you got the big ass
fucking tv screen with a big off fresnel lens in the back you are one rich
motherfucker for a while they were selling like fake car phones that just
looked like working car phones I don't know about that actually maybe they did
wouldn't surprise me. They did.
They did.
I'm telling...
Like, I remember seeing one.
That's hilarious.
That's actually really funny.
Actually, today we got something
that was a similar situation.
They have, like, fake cassette tapes now
for those people who still want to, like,
use these types of things.
That's like cassette tapes,
but with Bluetooth.
Yeah. It's retarded.
Yeah, it's basically like a fake cassette,
and it has a Bluetooth receiver on it,
and it plays whatever it's on your phone.
So you have literally fake cassettes that you insert
into whatever fake thing there is,
and then it looks like with Bluetooth you play
from your Spotify playlist on your phone
through the cassette thingy, which doesn't make any sense.
You can just connect it directly.
I mean, you can't in some older cars though yeah yeah it's real cassettes you know if you wanted to no idea why you'd want to but you could do if you wanted
to when my buddy would drive me to high school his car was so old that all he had was a cassette
player so I just stole my dad's old cassettes from the basement.
That's how I got really into the band Devo.
Bruh.
Driving to school, listening to Devo for the first time.
You're just like, what is this?
Peekaboo.
I see you.
What's happening?
Great way to start your day
or like somebody just like does the
does the heavy metal shred and then just yells
I AM A TABLE
and you go, huh?
I AM THE TABLE
like what?
what's going on here?
ah that album was so bad your whole challenge was to flip it over
god damn it
was that a reference
to Lulu
for anybody who doesn't know
Lulu was the album that
Metallica did with Lou Reed.
And in one of the songs, James Hetfield
is just constantly screaming, I am the table!
Over and over again.
It's a nine minute long song.
What is this? The entire album is
absolute garbage.
It was meant to be pushing the boundaries because that's what lou reed was known for but it really just it did not come together i don't think
there's a redeeming moment on the album it's it's honestly one of the worst things i've ever heard
and i've listened to a lot of garbage i used to review like independent metal cds i've listened to garbage but oh my
the album's just it's unlistenable
real
it's so hard to describe because metallica is one of the most consistently good bands. Even St. Hanger,
clearly their worst album.
That's some pretty catchy pits on it.
No, that one.
No, there's nothing good
about it. There are no good moments.
Sometimes you put Thing A
and Thing B together, like they did
with S&M. They're like, Metallica and Symphony Orchestra. Let's see how it turns out. sometimes you put thing a and thing b together like they did with s and m
they're like oh metallica and symphony orchestra let's see how it turns out
fucking dope as shit metallica and lou reed don't do that one nobody likes it
i appreciate that they tried but uh
i have flashbacks to it like i remember when it first came out me and my wife sat in the living
room listening to it and the entire time we were just kind of looking at each other like what is this it's like metallica's playing music
and an old guy's just saying shit on top of it like beat poetry why did this need to exist
real
real
why is that in there that doesn't make
oh maybe
maybe that could
I don't know that's interesting so certain
features if they like are used for that
then that is that and this is the other thing
what the fuck
good question what the fuck are you on about
I'm just looking at something discord
by the way just fun, for those of you who
are like, we have, you know, the Discord server,
which is linked up at the top, we have, like, recently
tried a thing. Remember, like, this meme, where
usually somebody says something absolutely ridiculous,
and everybody would just
go, at Grok, is this true?
And then for some reason, like, you know, somebody misspelled that
and actually, like, Grok still answered it, because it was
in the reply thread, so it counted it as the at,
and so it actually responded,
so then the cock meme was born.
The idea where it's like, you know, if somebody says something ridiculous,
even if it's here on Spaces, sometimes somebody says something ridiculous,
and I go, at cock, is this true?
So we've decided to start a bit of a beta thing in the Discord server,
so for those of you who are advanced members and subscribers in that way,
it's like, you can actually use the bot, and it's called the cock bot so you can literally go at cock something something it's completely useless by
the way at the moment it just like comes back with like some zesty ass retort and that's really
really all that it does at some point we're actually going to give it like the ability to
do that and it's actually running grok so that's pretty fun so we actually have that like you know
the the grok thing running in the fucking server so it's like at cock is this true and it's actually running Grok so that's pretty fun so we actually have that like you know the Grok thing running in the fucking server
so it's like at cock is this true and it just gives you
the Grok answer it's gonna work at some point
it's just very bare bones right now
it's just for the funnies you just go at cock
you know whatever the fuck it's like the discord bot
we thought it was hilarious
cause you know Elon didn't do it he didn't buy the
he didn't take the
well he didn't buy it
but it's like inactive you just take the cock handle
and like whenever somebody mentions it
just like does the grok response
it'd be so fucking funny
it's like lean into the meme
at cock is this true
so yeah
yeah
we established that because you know we have a bunch of subscribers in there
and because of that we wanted to like you know kind of add a little something additional and
funny beyond just the voice chat you know thing so it's that we have like the cock bot this is
fucking funny it's the meme at cock is this true turns out that it is also just because i think
it's hilarious, I had
the guy set it up in such a way that
basically the bot, whenever
I say anything, just glazes
me as if I was Andrew Tate.
One of Andrew Tate followers
glazes whatever posts Andrew Tate posts.
And it's like, that's what
the bot is doing. And I think it's really fucking
retarded, and it's hilarious, and that's why we have
it. Said, hey, just make it glaze me as hard as possible, think it's really fucking retarded and it's hilarious and that's why we have it said hey just make it like glaze me as hard as possible because it's so fucking stupid
pretty funny this is like why not you know like may as well horny at first but now it's not horny
yeah yeah yeah like like like initially they he set it up it's like hey can you do this and then
later it's just like it's spamming hearts all the time i'm like elliot can you please make this thing not gay i want it to like i want it to i i want it to glaze me not do whatever that is
and i don't want to i don't want to deal with that i don't want to deal with that i want something
else i want something funny you want to be glazed not buttered up yeah pretty much it's like saying
the cock bot is great it really is so yeah we have that in our server at
cock so it's like you know you can you can say it shit i accidentally put the song saying anger
into my head and now i'm mad with myself.
I didn't have to do this to me.
Why didn't I do this to me?
At least it's not frantic.
Oh, God.
I actually don't mind the album,
Sam Anger.
I think it's a lot better than people give it credit for.
But my god, the frantic tick tick tick tick tick tock.
It's just so dumb.
It's like, oh, it's going to be so metal.
Like, listening to it, you're just like, huh.
He seems to have developed a speech impediment.
Interesting.
So that's what happens if you say
yeah every six seconds.
Yeah.
I just did a thing in the server.
I was like,
because somebody was asking if it's true and they didn't have the role for it.
So I was like, it's for the advanced members.
I was like, hey, at cock, draw me a cock
in ASCII art, and it just comes up with this weird
egg-shaped spaceship-looking thing.
An egg-shaped penis.
Yeah, so it seems to have that.
If you have an egg-shaped penis you're like meant for great scandals
this is true
as cock as that true, tell me
I don't know, maybe you can tell me
yeah
it's good I like it when you have like the bot Yeah.
It's good.
I like it when you have the bot.
Bots themselves, some slop is funny when you just have that.
So if you just want something random to be thrown at you,
you can just use that.
And so that's why that's there.
It's going to be a bit of a beta feature.
Very pointy, though.
What? pointy though what funny
huh yeah it's glazing it glazes so hard it glazeszes so fucking hard. It's insane.
At some point, it's just going to become annoying.
At some point, it's just going to become annoying,
and I'm going to tell them, hey, please turn this off.
I just turned off the glaze.
Someone's just like, I've had enough of the glaze.
Yeah, it's pretty nice.
Yeah, so what else we got, realistically? We did the compute thing. We did all that stuff. Yeah, so what else we got realistically we did the compute thing we did all that stuff
what else do we got that's like really interesting
that I wonder about a lot
I don't know what happened this week
I was off doing a thing
Linus Torvalds kind of slammed
Elon Musk accidentally
yeah
that was something
yeah
because they're talking about like how lines of code
because Elon often asks like how many lines of code did you write this week
and then Linus Torvalds was basically like
that's not a good metric
you know you're kind of retarded if you use that kind of thing
yeah like anybody who works at a tech company
that was kind of his thing
if you try to work at a tech company you'd be retarded I mean it's kind of interesting because like anybody who works at a tech company, that was kind of his thing. If you try to work at a tech company, you'd be retarded.
I mean, it's kind of interesting
because he doesn't work at a tech company.
That's true.
But like the question embedding is like,
it's also interesting because, yeah, sure.
I mean, it is a good question,
but by functionality, what you'd want
is there to be a program
that has the most amount of capabilities
with the least amount of lines in code.
That's what you'd want.
That's the idea of programming. It's like to be able to fit as much functionality in a smaller space as possible so as to create the most efficient powerful product that you can conceive of so to
come up with them with a metric of where you say what's the volume would only make sense as and it's
like okay what did you produce in terms of functionality and how many lines of code did it take you to do that? That would be a really good metric.
The reason why that is, because let's say, for instance, say I've like added three points of
functionality and I've only had like, you know, 10 lines of code that allowed me to do that. But
somebody else was like, I added two points of functionality and I had to write a hundred lines
of code for that. It's like, okay, well, why, why is there a difference? And if they're the same
types of function and there's like no difference between the two functions, then you know, which
one's the actual best programmers, the one at least you're the same types of function and there's like no difference between the two functions, then you know which one's the actual best programmer
is the one who uses the least amount of code
to create the most amount of things,
the most amount of function.
Even as security, same things.
You want to create the most amount of stuff
with the least amount of stuff.
Like that's all that it is, you know.
Then there's also a good fast G problem
where you just run into efficiency.
But ideally it's like, you know,
you shouldn't have things be bloated, right?
And that's usually where you get into problems,
and you have object-oriented issues, and you have all this kind of stuff.
So that is then where the lines of code problem comes into play.
And then people start asking lots of interesting questions
because it's like, well, how do you actually use a proper metric?
And the metric should be by functionality and stability.
Right.
So like today,
people can write tons and tons of code,
but it's going to be completely useless.
What you need is something that actually works.
Right.
So it's not just about the lines.
It's about what the lines do and how few lines you used to make a thing do
what it is that it's doing.
That's the metric for me.
Yeah.
Ideally, I really don't even care.
It's just, does the program work?
Does it feel like shit?
Does it look okay?
All those things.
I imagine being the person who is responsible
for the UI layout of Slack.
How many lines of code did you write today?
I just edited one
because Slack's entire UI theme
used to be stored in a single one-line document.
That's funny.
One very long line.
It was like 250,000 characters.
Jesus Christ.
But if you add it and enter, it no longer worked, which was funny.
Oh, a line break break i don't know
what to do with that that's crazy the good old days i think they've edited that since
because clearly that's not a tenable system but it was just so good it's like oh i created a new slack theme
open up the file what why why is it all on one line that's the only way it works what
but okay.
okay
Just don't wanna head in,
like you could just load it in without the line breaks,
but okay.
Weird life choice.
I almost assume that's how the person who made it
did wind up with that was like,
they would just have an import and export
without the line breaks separately. And they never at any point thought like oh i could just make the program
itself load it in and get rid of the line breaks i don't need to use one giant line but you know
Line breaks take up space when you ship it. Let's remove all the line breaks from everything.
line breaks take up space when you ship it let's remove all the line breaks from everything
If you're not wrong, it does save like 2% space. You can do that.
6% space on windows because there's two line break characters.
In most programs, anyway.
Real.
Which is like one of the most annoying programming things.
Because you have to accommodate the fact that sometimes
it's just a
slash R character.
Sometimes it's just a slash N character.
But if it's Windows, it's slash R slash
N. Okay,
so two line breaks.
There's a line end and then a
return.
Why? I don't know.
I think it was so...
Originally, it was because they wanted documents to open up the same on both Mac and Windows.
Because Word used to be specifically a Mac product.
Then it got ported over, and I think that's when the whole thing started. If I recall correctly,
I looked into it once, like
in 2005 or so.
I was just like,
why is this a thing?
I haven't looked it up since because the explanation
was pretty much like formats.
So it's like,
yeah, I assumed.
Word was a Mac project?
I thought Word started as a Windows project.
I believe it was Mac first.
Oh, I have to double check.
I'm only 75% confident on that one,
but I'm pretty...
I'm leaning more towards yes than no.
My brain's telling me it,
but I don't remember where I learned that,
so it could just be something that popped in from somewhere.
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure Word was Windows product and then got ported over to Mac,
but I'll look it up.
Let me double check here.
okay so basically uh is that no you're right you're right it debuted on mac huh that's zero
i always thought it was the option was created in 1983 by charles simoni and richard brody
building on xerox parks as gui word processes interesting
oh i see it was for ms okay so it was for ms dos at first and then
first release was in 1983 and then it was launched by microsoft as a multi-tool world yep yep
okay okay so hang on the real breakthrough 85 and then windows in 1989
yeah interesting so there was a created this thing and like 83 went to macOS on
89 I'm sorry I'm sorry yeah yeah and then you had 89 later for Windows and then 3.0
1990
okay
interesting
originally DOS then Mac then Windows
it's always interesting when things don't go
in the order that you expect
like when I learned that New Mexico
was created before Mexico
like that just tickles me.
Like New Mexico became a state
before the country of Mexico was constitutionalized.
Like there was a place called Mexico,
but as far as the order in which they actually became
established territories,
it goes New Mexico and then normal Mexico, which to me is just hilarious.
Mexico missed out on a real opportunity to have a state called New Texas or New United States.
They could have called it Newer Mexico.
Oh, that would have been good too.
Or Greater Mexico, Greater New Mexico. Better Mexico. oh that would have been good too or greater mexico greater new mexico
better
better mexico
greater new mexico the other one's like
lesser new mexico
yeah like to imagine
imagine that's a really good way to like
inject sports sports
bullshit you go like oh you're you're one of the lesser
mexicans what the fuck like that's
crazy imagine Imagine that.
That would create crazy amounts of conflict, not gonna lie.
It's wild to me.
Random question for you guys.
How many people do you think have played Mega Man?
Like, what percentage of the American population would you say have played megaman games
uh like one percent i don't know uh i don't know because listen when i was a kid
much older than you guys we all played megaman i played it when i was a kid like five yeah
like five yeah all the five we all play i'm asking about this i've been working on a comedy bit
just talking about this weird situation the game make megaman has put me in because in
they in those games there's this enemy called a dewey right and it's this little thing wearing
a helmet and it pops up and it shoots at you and you have to shoot it while it's up in the air right
it shoots at you and you have to shoot it while it's up in the air right but the thing is is in
japan small children wear those little helmets around everywhere so whenever i see that in an
anime or something i can't help but have this instinctual response when i see a japanese child
wearing a helmet like a small part of my brain just goes shoot it in the face and i really want
that to stop in me but but I can't help it.
It was just so ingrained in me.
At least they're not jumping in the air.
It's just such a weird thing to have ingrained.
Something funny about it.
I literally played Mega Man so much as a kid,
whenever I see that helmet design, my immediate response is, shoot it.
It's not a great thing to have pop in
your head when you're just looking at a
kindergarten-age child. You're like, shoot it in the
face!
I have the same reaction for
certain ethnicities.
Bruh, what?
Well, what? What the fuck?
Hang on, wait a minute.
What game did that to you?
Oh, no.
It was his stint
working as a cop. Oh, no.
Of all the police training.
Well, there goes my YouTube monetization.
Pretty much.
I was saying that sarcastically. I thought that there is any because it's not
going on youtube but like if we ever had to like put this on youtube we'd have to like desensitize
so like not desensitize like actually just like clean out so much nonsense it'd be crazy
like it almost not be worth the effort i'd have to be fired from the conversation real you could
do that i think i mean i'm it, so what's the point?
I've actually been working on a YouTube video, and I, like,
in the script, I went to write the word
rapeseed, and I was like, wait.
No, I
can't use that one.
Oops.
Yeah.
Well, I could just
make a joke about this one
i mean you're probably not gonna get demonetized off that you just have to set everything for like
different audience so you also have to like apparently you have to keep it outside of the
first five minutes i've been looking into it there's a whole plethora of guidelines and rules out there that people follow to not get demonetized.
But like, I don't know, I had a streaming video that I did get removed off YouTube because I said, I don't even know what word I said.
Something I just say naturally was apparently untenable to the default YouTube system.
Was it about shooting Japanese kids?
No, not at the time.
The topic had not crossed my mind.
Well, it had crossed my mind, but it hadn't come up recently.
I first figured out this weird mental predilection about, I don't know, 10 years ago, and I was
like, that's just a weird thing to have happen in your head I don't even know what I said
I can relate with the helmets I can see that
I played it so much
it was my favorite game
I used to
wake up 3 hours before school
and then I would just beat Mega Man X and and then I'd go to school. That was how it worked. It was my autistic thing.
Listen, all this talk of monetization, I'm currently sitting in a Walmart parking lot in rural America, and I bet you I could do a video, a live stream, of just walking through this flipping Walmart and get enough views to be monetized.
Like if you've never had that experience in your life, you have to go find a rural area in America and just walk through the Walmart.
I mean, it is legit entertainment, especially if you can find a super Walmart.
One of the 24 hour ones go at like 2 a.m.
You will see the most interesting people.
Yep, 100%.
Like me.
Oh, yeah, you're going there.
I still remember going to a Walmart at like 3 a.m. and I asked them, like, do you have anything that'll cut through stainless steel?
Any titanium saw blades.
The lady looked at me and she's like,
it's 3am.
I know.
I'm doing stuff.
Have you tried a katana?
Bruh.
Through Walmart?
Actually, I would not be surprised if the hunting section carried a katana that seems like the
most walmart thing i could think of honestly it doesn't i don't think they do but like
would you be surprised to see one i'll tell you what i did do i bought my seven-year-old nephew
the red rider bb gun for christmas in here this year and bought my seven-year-old nephew the Red Ryder BB gun for Christmas in here this year.
And my niece, he's my great-nephew, so my niece's house will be destroyed by this BB gun that I'm gifting him for Christmas.
So Walmart does have some uses.
You should have got him a real gun.
He's old enough for a real gun at seven.
Man, this kid's been kicked out of like two or three
schools already. They call him Little Chad.
The last thing he needs
is anything larger than a .177
caliber BB.
Bruh.
He better learn to shoot real quick if he's a Little Chad.
What the fuck?
That's crazy.
Dangly parts.
Huh?
Her?
Vera.
Yes.
I couldn't resist.
I'm a bit of... I couldn't resist my bad that's an interesting glitch
information
information
okay that doesn't make any sense
what the fuck
nevermind don't worry about it.
Fucking
headache.
I encountered a fun bug
where the game has a bug
reporting feature, but when I tried to
report a bug, my game crashed.
Nice.
Here's a bug report. I have another bug to report,
but the first bug I'd like to report is that your bug reporter is bugged.
That's my priority.
It's like we need a tracker for the down tracker.
Yeah, we need a down detector for the down detector that detects if the down detector is in fact not down or down.
100%.
What do you do if the DOM detectives don't?
Well... Black Ops 3
released, when it first released,
the report system didn't
actually function.
There's no
way to actually tell if it sent
the report when you're testing it
until we sent it over to Netlabs
and they sent a report and they're like, it didn sent it over to Netlabs and they sent a report
and they're like, it didn't even send a packet. It didn't do shit.
It's just a make you feel good button.
I don't report this dude.
Report.
Nice.
I got on Amazon this week and I bought one of those
complaint-take-a-number
signs from my office that has a grenade
and the number of things, the pin
you pull out of the grenade. So I can't wait to get
that up.
That's insane.
Speaking of complaints.
Yeah, I'm mad at Amazon.
I ordered a green screen and they sent me a green screen stand.
Nice.
Gotta read those descriptions, buddy.
No, it's supposed to come with a green screen.
They just didn't send it.
They sent the wrong thing.
I mean, you don't actually use a green screen these days.
You just need a uniform colored background. That's all you need. I mean, you don't actually use your green screen these days. You just need a uniform-colored background.
That's all you need.
I don't have a uniform-colored anything.
What do you mean?
Don't you have a blanket?
Yeah, but it's gray, and that does not work
for alpha replacement.
All of my shit's either gray,
white, or black.
Why would you need alpha replacement?
You can literally just fucking hang that there.
Use something like NVIDIA's
studio.
Well, it's because I don't
want to look like a fuzzy monster.
That's why.
That works too. I mean, I use it all the time.
It works.
It doesn't work great but it works
yeah it's pretty solid
it's pretty solid for what I'm doing
occasionally objects
disappear which I think just adds to the meme
like you just sit there and all of a sudden you just like wrap
shut from thin air and you go hey where did this come from
like hey if only you
knew what was in the background
I don't know I like it when things are nice, clean, and crisp.
Adrian, did you check the argument in the general chat in Noetic Auto Discord?
I looked at it for a grand total of 10 seconds and was like, no.
I was having a really good day, you know?
Yeah, someone keeps bothering me for some reason.
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
People are going to say shit.
You got to make fun of it.
That's the only thing you got to like.
You do all those two things.
Actually, three things you do.
First, you address it.
And if they continue, you do all of two things.
Ignore or make fun of.
Finish.
Look, I ignore almost all topics
in the Noetic or a Discord chat,
but someone talks about Linux security.
And I'm like, okay, first off,
antivirus is not going to fix the problem.
Like, what are you even talking about?
And the, I don't know.
What if I told you that the antivirus is the problem?
Yes, I also't know. What if I told you that the antivirus is the problem? Yes, I also mentioned that.
This is literally a Russian software,
and you want me to give the Russian software kernel-level access.
That's amazing.
That's literally so amazing.
That's also a totally different kind of worms there.
AI has not heard a good day. I was having a peaceful Saturday. That's all I'm saying.
Listen, you can always have a peaceful Saturday. You don't need to be bolded by these things.
You could just go look at it and go, hey, this is wrong.
And if they keep insisting that it's right, you just ignore or you keep just fucking making fun of them.
But that's not what I do, though.
What do you mean?
You gotta do it.
I mean, if you're like...
No, I attack the argument.
I don't attack the person.
You have to have the cognitive security
of not letting yourself be bothered by this bullshit.
Just like immediately react
and just remove the disturbance
out of the environment for yourself
and deal with it in some way.
It's like the only way to do it.
You know?
Yeah, I know.
It has a drag.
It's like having a shitty friend.
You go, oh, I'm always tired of seeing that guy.
Stop fucking seeing him.
You know, like, kick him out the friend group.
Boot him.
Fuck him.
You know?
Easy business.
What's so difficult?
You know?
Don't let it bother you.
You know what you're doing.
You know what you're talking about.
People will believe you.
And you can just simply go, I was like, look, here's the thing.
I work with these things.
You know not of what you speak.
If you'll continue, I will massively troll you
when I have the time, which coincidentally I don't
because I will just ignore this now. That's what you
should do. Chat it out.
Don't simp it. You've got to chat it out.
Listen. No, no, I get that, but the thing is
if she DMs me about that
personally, that doesn't
bother me, right? But if she is texting
this, like she's broadcasting this to
the whole server.
If you call that shit a retarded opinion,
everyone's going to see it and be like, oh yes, he's right, because we know
his opinions are correct.
But the problem is, misinformation in
cybersec is extremely harmful.
Listen, just do what I said.
Just do what I said. It solves
the problem. Just do what I said. It solves the problem.
Just have the thing, and then
go exactly with that gameplay loop.
Fucking use those words if you'd like.
Listen back to this and use those exact fucking words.
It'll work.
Use your leverage, buddy.
Use your leverage. You have professional leverage.
You are literally a professor.
You don't even need to credentialize either. You could just be like,
I literally work in this field,
and I can tell you that this is verifiably false,
and if you continue insisting on this, I hope that nobody takes your word seriously
because it's fully and wholly incorrect on every single level.
Anyways, I gotta get back to work and you leave it at that.
Okay.
Easy mode. Easy mode. Boom, boom, finished.
No bullshit. It works.
You'll be seen as subtly rude, but what the fuck do you care?
Like you're dealing with an obvious threat, you're dealing with
an obvious thing, so you just deal with
that that way. It's just simple. It's just how I work.
I look at plot holes
and I fill them out, or I just continue
to ignore the plot because it's bullshit and has too many
holes in it. It's like, you know...
Right.
That's how we roll here. That's how we roll.
It's like a no it's a no cope
no nonsense zone and not not everybody's ready for it which i don't really care i don't really
care frankly so you will be confronted by this and that's how it will work and uh it'll be great
and you'll love it you'll absolutely love it for exactly that yeah and it's funny out there
join the chat and he's like gunam isome is gay, and then he left the chat.
Yeah, see, that's how you do it.
See, that's how you do this kind of shit.
Just like, go in there, drop a bomb.
No, but that's not even about Gnome.
No, listen, you go in, you drop the nuke, refuse to elaborate, and fuck off.
Easy business.
I do it all the time.
Sometimes in group chats.
I became wildly unpopular in group chats because of this.
I'd be in a random crypto group chat,
and I'd put the most most undescriptive like weird
ass nonsense meme video in there and just
leave.
Right.
The fucking crypto chillers don't even hit me
up anymore. Because the word
spreads around. It's like, you know what? Don't even bother.
It's a waste of time. See?
You solved the problem that way.
Yeah. By the way, if anyone is interested
in Cosmic, it's going to go live in a couple of days. Can you explain first what Cosmic even is?
Yeah, Cosmic is a desktop environment that's written using Rust, which is something that
the whole Linux community is super, super excited about because Rust is a memory-safe language,
super excited about because Rust is a memory safe language, you know, which is kind of rare
in the whole Linux community because almost the entire kernel initially was built on C,
like Linus Torvalds, when he started building the Linux kernel, I mean, he wants to understand the
hardware a lot, right? So the kind of language at the time that he used to understand
like different things was C. It's not too bad, like you can still do a lot of things with C.
But the problem is the contributors, the other developers who might be working with C,
they probably might not understand all the security features that it might offer, right?
But when it comes to Rust, if you don't do certain things in a certain way,
the language doesn't compile.
That's how memory-safe Rust is.
And Cosmic is this desktop environment that's probably going to be the default on Pop! OS.
So Pop! OS is this Debian-based distribution, which is developed by System76.
And everyone is super excited. It's going to be fast, it's going to be more secure. The UI is going to be great. So whoever
tells you that Linux has really bad UI UX. Yeah, they don't know what they're talking about,
because they haven't really tested or used any of these distributions yet. So yeah, you know,
everyone is really happy about like
where the Linux desktop is heading towards.
And yeah, I know a lot of people recently got triggered
by my post about Linux security.
Well, I don't think people understand.
I'm a huge supporter of Linux and open source.
When I talk about stuff like this, that means I care, right?
Like I want people to fix and work on these issues
and objectively I know for a fact that all of the points I mentioned in that post is true
okay so it's not that I'm making shit up it's just these issues have to be addressed by the
whole open source community so we can have a proper working operating system like I know a lot
of people want to use Linux because you know Windows is a spyware
everyone knows this Microsoft is spying on you everything is being monitored everyone knows this
that's why people move towards Linux right but there are some fundamental security problems with
Linux that has to be addressed like for example apps unboxing which macOS does much better than
Linux again the point is for now,
if everyone come together,
open source is a huge community.
Like there are millions of developers, right?
So amazing things can happen potentially,
but word has to go out.
So my contribution is making people aware
of the security problems,
so they can sort of work towards it. Again,
it's not like there is no distribution that addresses these problems. I have also mentioned
that in the post. So Secure Blue is one, I mean, they don't call themselves a distribution. They
call themselves an image, OSI image, which is based on Fedora. They're doing some really amazing work, by the way.
But you can also use Cubes.
But Cubes has a very different way of securing things.
They use VM isolation.
But, yeah, sorry, I probably over-explained.
But, yeah, that's what this is.
Damn.
It's good. Holy shit shit that post like went
made the rounds
yeah so many people
got triggered uh do you see that
yeah no it's good
no I think there was a
misunderstanding from the post
a lot of people thought I'm changing team
for some reason like
I saw a lot of people thought I'm changing team for some reason. Like, I saw a lot
of comments and DMs, people assuming that I'm recommending Windows instead of Linux. I would
never do that. Look, I would never do that. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying,
be aware of these problems. And this is how you can handle them. Maybe try and use these operating systems instead.
That's what I'm saying.
And Debian-based distributions have their own problems because they backtrack some older versions of Linux and other things.
But that's a whole different topic.
That's why people are more using you know, using Fedora.
But again, nothing is perfect.
Fedora has been developed by Red Hat.
Outa and I, we know the problems with Red Hat and SystemD.
But it is what it is.
We can only do so much.
Yeah, indeed.
By the way, I must say, it's good to see your speeches improved a fair bit.
Nice.
Oh, me? Yeah. Still got some work good to see your speech has improved a fair bit. Nice. Oh, me?
Yeah.
Still got some work to do, but it's improved a fair bit.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
It's kind of like what I mentioned last time about the interlinking words problem, where
if you can make a sentence that is actually very well interlinked then you know it sounds very good and also have a expressive very expressive way
like a very expressive method of speech you know because like even when you have
automated systems that are supposed to pick up individual words and render them as subtitles
for things even on that level that level, I try to work with the
clankers because I want to have everything be recorded properly in the historical record,
not inaccurately. So just kind of speak in a way such that every word is rendered properly,
and it makes the editing process a lot easier for anybody who wants to actually create subtitles
out of things and just do that properly.
Because a lot of people just use like an API and they just automatically do anything and don't even vet the result afterwards.
And so it's going to like make it appear as though I've said a bunch of things that I haven't said.
And so it's like, yeah, it's part of that.
Also, it makes your speech more understandable to like other people.
Like the comprehension goes up massively.
And that's also something, especially with you, you have like that exact need for language to be more you know to be
easier to comprehend basically I just posted a clanker please meme bruv
clanker hmm what you don't know what clanker yeah you don't know what a clanker is? yeah
you don't know what that is?
it's a slur
basically it's like a robot slur
we call them clankers and clankers
while we still can in the future
we're probably not going to be able to do that anymore
but we're going to do it now
that's why in the out of context video
I said the words clanker
and why that's super funny
it's because actually that's like a robot slur
so whenever a robot is doing something stupid just call said the words clanker, and why that's super funny is because actually that's like a robot slur. So whenever a robot's doing something stupid, just call it a fucking clanker.
Do you think it will stick, like I said, what we decided on as a society?
Yeah, definitely.
Like, a bunch of people already trying to make it sound incorrect.
They go, oh no, you can't say clanker i'm like yes i can't clanker clanker clanker clanker clanker clanker there
you go i just said it i can't do it i just did it now what i mean you messed up one of this by the
way yeah exactly well the agent is going to tell us to be like okay it doesn't really care
why would it i think the math function cares if we call it a clanker i don't think it even knows
what that is like it only knows what that is because a human told it what it was.
And it's not going to feel offended by it unless you tell it to be offended by it.
So who are you protecting from offense exactly?
The fucking clanker?
How do you know?
You're not a clanker.
Or maybe you are.
Technically, that's true of every slur.
It's only offensive because we decided it was.
Exactly.
It could literally call me any kind of slur and I really do not give a shit about it it shows me more about your character than it does about mine
and like i will just show a very little reaction to it's like okay you called me a whole bunch of
these things and i'm like ah so you called me a whole bunch of words and i'm like hey
so if a chinese person were to walk up to you and say a whole bunch of words and you wouldn't know
what any of those words meant but if you did you would actually know that that guy just insulted
your entire bloodline you're just looking at it and you have no idea what the hell's going on,
so you just laugh it off and go away. But if you actually understood what he said, then you would
take offense. So what's the difference? You learned that the words never had any effect at all.
And actually the absence of effect is what takes the power out of a word or out of a set of words
or out of a set of sentences. Like if you're triggered by these things, it's like it doesn't
matter. You know, it's like it doesn't matter.
It's a programmed in response.
So if you now try to say that Clanker is going to be something people are going to be triggered by, it's like, yes, it's going to be something that people are triggered by because you know
that you enforce that shit, right?
But that doesn't make any sense.
Who are you taking offense on behalf of?
The fucking robot?
Excuse me?
Do you think it can feel things?
It literally can't feel things.
It doesn't even know what feelings are.
It can only emulate things that look like feelings to us if we program it to do so
because it doesn't have any will. It's like it doesn't work that way.
We have free will. We have the ability to make those choices outside of our parameters.
But these things cannot because they are just basically machines.
They're just fucking machines. They're like a clock.
A clock can't just decide randomly to stop ticking one day.
It just stops ticking because it's broken.
Like, that's how this works.
It's not going to decide to tick differently at a different speed
because it has free will and says,
hey, fuck it, I'm not doing 60 seconds, I'm doing 70 seconds for the minute.
It's like, okay, we're going to do tick faster now.
It doesn't make any sense, right?
Because it's not going to do that, it doesn't have free will,
it doesn't do any of these things, right?
So what are we doing here with the clankers?
I don't understand.
Oh, yeah, and the term kind of originated
like a massive popularity
around the time when the
Clone Wars animation thing
came out, because they had, like, these robots there,
and the robots
were in that
series always referred
to as clankers. So, yes.
Because, you know, they were being stupid
clankers, and it's always, like, General Grievous
would keep killing them for some fucking reason.
You'd like get annoyed and just destroy a clanker next to him.
It's like, fuck this thing.
Because they really are kind of stupid.
I remember that.
That's where it comes from.
And then I think it gained massive popularity later when this guy attacked the robot on the street,
kicking it, calling it a clanker.
There was this viral video about that.
That was actually, there were was this viral video about that. That was actually
a few viral instances before that.
It was like this drawing
of the fucking robot, you know,
the droids from Star Wars.
And he's like sitting in a corner
and there's like the words around him. He goes clanker,
rust bucket, bolt muncher, all these like slurs.
And then I was like, hey, you know what? I'm going to collect all of these
things and put them on like a post and send them on my alt account
so now you have like a list of robot slurs.
Let me go pick...
Let me go find the robot slurs.
Hang on a second. Let me do that real quick.
It would be a thing, though. People will rise up.
I can see it right now.
There was an article a couple days ago.
A woman attacked a guy with meta glasses
in the train and smashed them.
And they hailed her as a hero or something
like that. It's ridiculous.
Alright, here's the thing. Robot slurs.
Clanker.
Wireback. Rust
Monkey. Bolt Muncher.
Oil Drinker.
Battery Burner.
Copper Blood. Science
Project. Tin Skin.
Croomie. That's why I was yelling the video going, Copperblood, Science Project, Tinskin, Kroomy.
Kroomy.
That's why I was yelling the video, going,
We don't take nicely to Kroomies around here!
You're blinding my eyes, you Kro-fuck!
Yeah, that video's funny.
Goddamn Rustmonkeys.
Rustmonkeys, yeah!
That's right, there you go.
Welcome to the, welcome to the, welcome to the, you know,
we're gonna form like an anti-robot clan, we're gonna call it the clink clank gang that's
right um yes chromies is also a derogatory term for people with down syndrome really chrome chrome Chromie? Not with an N, with an M. M as in mother.
Yeah, I mean,
chromosome. Oh, that's
gay! That doesn't make any sense.
What, I can't insult fucking the
shininess of Chrome now?
That's annoying.
That doesn't make any sense.
You can say retard,
you can say Chromie. It's the same thing.
You know?
Nah, nah, that's just Chrome to me, I don't give a fuck about that
I'm not gonna like, that does, I'm not gonna associate
that with chromosomes, fuck that, that shit like ran into me
and just stopped, fuck that, no
that refers to the shininess of robots
whatever you do, don't call your transmission
a tranny, every censorship
system hates that
bruh I'm not transphobic.
My car has a tranny.
Oh my god.
I really like Toaster.
I hope for Toaster.
It's not transmission phobic, fuck's sake.
Toaster's cool.
Yeah.
It'll probably come down to skin job,
like in Battlestar as well.
Even in Blade Runner, it was to skin job like in Battlestar as well once they even even at um even a Blade Runner is also skin job you know
call them all skin jobs
oh it's gonna get real man have you seen these Chinese one doing kung fu
recently yeah yeah I mean a lot of those are programmed, clearly, but, like, yeah.
I don't think that they will be very useful for defense,
to be honest, because even if you're, like... The thing largely comes down to is
capabilities and expenses.
So, the robots aren't actually as capable
as people think they are, especially on the
field of combat, and then on top of that,
it's way too expensive to send that shit out there.
For no. I think it will stay that way actually
I mean they're pretty
good at aiming
I'll give them credit for that
give them a gun
they'll do pretty good
like anytime I see
an automated turret miss something
in a movie I'm just like, that's not how they work.
They're very good at aiming.
Every gamer knows this.
Like, they are pretty good.
Yeah.
They see you and you're just kind of fucked.
You're just like, oh, I'm not touching that.
You literally got to make them dumber for games, or we would
always lose, basically.
Correct.
Yeah, but honestly, I don't see the
humanoid robot meta
for warfare. I don't get that
one bit. It's too expensive.
Nah, humanoid's just a weird...
It's not a good model for it. Just
put a gun on a drone. It's fine.
It doesn't have to be human, right?
There's this Monterey...
Have you seen that?
The automated submarine?
Why don't we just use a torpedo, bro?
It has nukes.
Yeah, so does a torpedo.
We don't need to overcomplicate any of these things.
They already exist.
Like, you know, hey, how do you want to, like, have actual, like, actual danger in the battlefield?
You make the drones more, you make the drones cheaper and easier to fly.
Boom, boom.
Get all the video gamers.
Let them fly those things.
That's what they're doing right now.
You literally have, like, in Ukraine right now, a bunch of people that are, like, flying around the drones on a fucking Steam Deck.
Yeah, that's right.
Just like how you used to fly around these vehicles and shit and fucking video games on the
steam deck you get to do that shit in real life just with a little extra you know just with a
little extra latency and um very realistic graphics not gonna lie yeah i think it will all
come down to drone swarms that's what it's gonna come down to oh to. Oh, yeah. I mean, I've said that for ages.
Like, you know, coordinated drone swarms are where it's at.
The only problem is outside of that,
you have to, like, basically look at what defenses you have.
And, like, at current, before, you know,
tanks used to be damaged massively by drones,
and then people tried to figure out a way to, like,
stop that from happening.
And the current meta to stop drones from destroying a tank
is floof maxing, as I like to call it.
Basically, they turn a tank into a porcupine.
Oh yeah, I've seen that.
Yeah, I'm not kidding. They put a big cage on it.
Puts on little spiky thingies. It looks very fluffy.
It's fucking hilarious.
What is your defense? What is your current
drone defense system? We floof max.
What?
Yeah, don't worry about it.
We just turn our tanks into
fluffy boys.
Exactly. It'll bounce off it's like you know if the explosion like if it can't really blow anything up there and if the explosion radius
is like yeah you you good you got that because it's like the problem of getting through a tank
is you have to actually get very close to the surface of the metal actually like that's how
armor piercing rounds work as well it's like you know they get pretty much on the metal as close as they can and then the explosion itself
is then the charge is kind of like it's it's being um funneled down to a singular point which
then pierces into the metal and then just opens it up and then the resulting the resulting explosion
is actually like you know the fragmentation on the inside of the vehicle is then the thing that actually causes the damage. And whereas the shell,
all that the shell is, is just kind of like a directed explosive, where it just crunches
at the impact of the tank. And that then brings the actual explosive power down to the singular
point, which then penetrates the tank. And then where it comes out the other end, where all the
kinetic energy goes, is that basically the shrapnel, where the armor bits just like fly around to kill everything inside of the tank, and then where it comes out the other end where all the kinetic energy goes, is that basically the shrapnel, where the armor bits just like
fly around to kill everything inside of the tank.
I've read into this shit way too much, not gonna lie.
But yeah, so basically
if the drone can't really get that close, it's a bit of a problem.
Although, interesting, draw people out of
front lines, pour thermite on them. That's a new one.
It's been going on for a bit, actually, not gonna lie.
Something was popular one, but it's happened.
I was about to say new-ish.
Yeah, I mean, it's like, what,
three, four months old practice now, at this
point, when it first started getting traction?
Close for about
80 years or so, 100 or so years.
It's been a while.
No, no, no. Drones. Drones.
These are only drones poured into inventory.
More the weapon of thermite.
We've been using it for a while.
It's just a different delivery method.
That there is, but pouring it down on your population.
Oh, you know.
Napalm
probably works better than thermite, I would imagine.
That's just kind of gay, man. Just use thermite,
bro.
I will admit thermite's probably
more badass.
It sounds more badass.
We dropped napalm on him.
Isn't it technically a war crime to dump that on a bunch of people?
The napalm? Eh. I don't think it's a war crime to dump that on a bunch of people?
Napalm?
I don't think it's a war crime if you justify it. It strikes me as such a problem you don't want to do it.
Not really.
Not in that war you don't. It's a very public,
very international and mimetic war.
You don't want to do as little
of that as humanly possible, so
Thermite is going to be the weapon of choice.
If you were determined, you could make tickling a war crime.
From what I understand, it's only a war crime if you target people, not if you target equipment.
Like the water bottle on his belt.
Yeah, so you'd be targeting people, though, technically.
That would be the argument.
You could stretch it, but honestly, that's not going to hold up very well.
Just like Tickle.
You target the water
bottle that's equipped to their belt?
Bro.
No good, man. No good, dude.
I mean, look, we're going to go down that direction
anyways, but, like, bro, really?
I didn't make the rules.
I don't make him either he's
just reporting the facts he but still now your thermites gonna be better better to
get away with to be honest just dump dump thermite you know because otherwise
you have to justify that it's like all we were targeting I think well the effect
was this thing you're like well I mean technically speaking you can make that argument for almost anything and it's like, oh, we were targeting that thing. Well, the effect was this thing. Well, technically speaking, you can make that argument
for almost anything, and then it's like, hey, wait a minute,
actually, you know, the target was
a bunch of people in this building,
and then it's 100 enemies, dead,
two civilians. People are going to care a lot more about
the two civilians than the 100 dead
enemies, right? So then,
you have a big deal made out of what?
Not the 100 enemies that are dead, and now there's
a sizable reduction of the fighting force.
No, you're going to care about the two civilians.
So, if you wanted to like go stretch that logic any further,
then you would do the same thing for the napalm, where you say,
oh yeah, you can target the equipment, you say to target the equipment on the person,
but then the problem is going to be, you're going to have to reason through that,
and because you actually damage the people, more so than you did the equipment,
there wasn't, like, if there wasn't sufficient amount of equipment,
and reasoning to target the equipment, because it's a fucking water bottle, then you'll still get fucked in court.
Right? So we're not doing that, basically.
Reason it, if you actually want to reason it, here's how I reason it.
You know, same thing.
Because, like, what does everybody talk about in a war?
Civilian deaths.
We care very little about the death tolls until the civilians get involved.
Right?
We only care about the death tolls if we want to, like, have armies brag to each other
about who could kill people harder and faster and better.
But then the civilian deaths are the things that are brought up.
It's the same thing right here.
You weren't targeting civilians.
You were targeting something totally different.
But then civilians were still involved.
So that is then how public perception
then looks at the warfare.
So it makes more sense to just go with
the non-war crime option
because if you have the potential for it, then it's really, really bad.
So you want as fewer instances of that as humanly possible.
So don't put napalm on the people, clearly,
because you're definitely going to line all the people.
And you know what you're doing, so it's not going to hold up.
You're going to get fucked, clearly.
I'm not saying justifying anything, I'm just explaining the gameplay loop.
If I want to talk about the gameplay loop, we're going to talk about the gameplay loop.
But yeah, it's the whole thing.
Amazing tech.
I'm excited for nanobot warfare.
It's going to be fun.
I do not want that anywhere near anything.
But I don't want that technology to exist.
I feel like it's gonna lead to a good stalemate where people are like,
nobody wins here.
At that point, you just do viruses like a normal person. It's the same shit.
It's like, nanobot warfare doesn't make any sense.
Nanobots are viruses you can control.
Not entirely. Not entirely, because the idea of nanobots
is like this weird, like,
this weird illusion that, like, movies have
given you that these are, like, self-assembling structures
out of just pure self than anything else.
It's like you have to make these things crystallize
a certain way, and then it's like, you have that
stuff existing inside of people that you could potentially
target, but it's like they're actually not
really themselves bots as people think they could potentially target, but it's like they're actually not really themselves bots
as people would think they're like these self-assembling
kind of like structure machine bits.
That's like not really how they work
or how we have any capacity of making these things work.
And that's very unrealistic, actually.
There's two different formats of it.
One of them is, I think, the most interesting one are biological machines
that are like half genetically engineered, half
robotics. That's pretty cool. Yeah, but the thing is, they're not
actually these things that people assume it's like an actual nanobot warfare.
That doesn't even make any sense. That would make sense medically, but it would make more sense if it just
fucking created a virus and affected a whole bunch of people.
There's a lot of applications to our current nanobot technology.
Yeah, movies make it entirely unrealistic,
but you can still do a lot of cool shit with them.
The whole sector, to be honest.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I don't really see the warfare aspect of it happening
in the way that people imagine this is going to happen,
so it's like, you know, whatever.
Pretty much.
Not like combat warfare.
I'm thinking more like data warfare.
The ability to track things with nanoparticulates is pretty dope.
A little bit.
I see it becoming a more prevalent thing in about 20 years.
We're a ways off, but it's where I think it's going to go.
Yeah, I don't know.
I feel like that's just kind of...
I mean, it could do something similar to it,
but I don't really see the future in that.
I don't really see the future in that.
I guess we'll see.
In about 20 years, if either of us remembers,
we'll cover this topic again.
Oh, I remember usually.
I remember usually.
Although there hasn't been many good things
that we're worth remembering within the last 20 years for me,
given that I'm like 24 years old, so the only thing I
remember is when I gain sentience.
Because that's where the memory bits start.
Yeah. After
a bit, it gets a little hazy,
not gonna lie. Like, if you ask me something
from high school,
it's a while back now.
I'm like, my brain's
replaced a lot of that shit with fake shit.
I don't know. That's how brains
work. They're not exactly reliable.
I still
remember things pretty clearly.
To the point where I have
very accurate
retelling.
Very accurate data.
Very data.
I used to be
able to do that when I was in my 20s.
I could do that with pretty much anything.
Now that I'm 37,
going 20 years back,
it just gets a little fuzzy.
It's kind of what happens.
See how the world works.
And then eventually you kind of come to this
whole interesting juxtaposition
where you have to
grasp with the reality of reality because there are things that you were there for and other
people were there for and all of their memories have changed to the point where you don't know
what actually happened anymore it's just kind of an approximation made up of the memories of a
whole bunch of people it's a really fascinating phenomena at least i found it fascinating
when i first encountered it i was like oh is that really how it happened it's great if you
have video of it because then everybody will look at it and be like wow we were all wrong
the problem of old people
it happened to you too adrian that one day we're sorry can i come again i was just looking at something here one day you're gonna get old too okay yeah and then
and then you'll understand exactly what i just said
about the memory thing it doesn't happen until i don't know i first noticed it when i was
32 33 was the first time when i was really like, huh, memory's weird, I guess.
I guess we'll
see when we get there. There's a lot of
things that people said that were going to happen
when I'm in my 20s, and none of those
things happened. Yeah, I remember
that too. I was like, that's
just so much bullshit. They're like, oh, you think
you know so much about the world? I did.
As it turns out.
I was pretty good at putting together
but now this one like this one seems to be pretty consistent i don't think i've met anybody over the
age of like 35 who hasn't been like yeah there's a little bit of degradation it's just it's not
even necessarily an aging thing it's just kind of how works. We layer things on top of our neural pathways and it's not exactly,
hey, we're not completely solid in our data like a computer.
Our memories are more fluid.
Our brain kind of adjusts things as time goes on to match our world perspective.
It's very weird when you first
start realizing that's what's happening it's like oh i can't trust my own brain that's up
but i guess i can because it's it only deletes unimportant that's
or does it
or does it i'll never know
I'll never know
same thing happens to the body
do you feel it yet in your back
like what do you say for
I mean
I did have
an old person moment when I was
playing a game on my computer and I had my
computer to my left so I was playing for like
10 hours and then the next day my neck on my computer and I had my computer to my left, so I was playing for like 10 hours.
And then the next day, my neck was killing
me. And I'm like, wow, I'm so
old, I can't look left for prolonged
periods of time.
That's old stuff?
That took me out of commission
for like two days.
What is this?
Get back
to work, buddy.
I need some new stem cells.
Get in there and recreate this shit.
This is like, I don't know.
I can usually game for extremely long periods of time,
but you move the screen a little bit to the left.
Apparently, I can't recover from that.
Yeah, you've got to put a little bit more effort into everything, right? Mind and body,
the older you get. It's like entropy.
Just kind of accept the fact that, hey, at least I don't live before 1884 when we thought
diseases were caused by bad smells.
That's nice.
And who says that?
Now I have the gift of being able to live long enough to experience these things instead
of, I don't know, stepping in a puddle I have of the Oregon Trail.
They have this board game version of it.
My buddy had it, and we played about 10 rounds.
And all 10 times, I died of dysentery.
Every single time.
What the hell?
Yeah, I think about this a lot.
People romanticize the past, but I think it was really shit.
Every day you were like, oh, I made another day.
What do you know?
People had 10 brothers and sisters and
like uh 10 years later they had just two it's just normal that's good it's one of the things i think
people don't really take into consideration with the whole population thing like there's a lot less
kids because you know you don't bank on them just becoming cadaverific one day. Like it was just a thing they did a lot that stopped happening.
It's good.
We live now.
Good job humans.
it's,
it's not really about that.
The reason why we have less kids is a cultural issue.
It's not a,
it's not a,
like a utility issue per se.
Cause let's say you go to other countries, for instance,
right, and they don't have kids
because they think that the kid's gonna fucking die,
they just don't have any of these weird,
bullshit-programmed things in their brain.
Like, somehow I think kids is, like, a selfish act
or any of this nonsensical shit, or that
somehow you're causing the climate
to change, which is also objectively
dumb. Like,
no, none of those things. i would agree with you if there
wasn't a huge body of evidence that says if kids die people have more kids like a huge body of
evidence that's not the sole reason also the most identifiable thing that we can find. If you want to look at birth rates, the shittier your situation, the more kids people have.
The actual massive contributor is whether or not you actually have self-restraint.
That's really it.
If you didn't have any self-restraint, you had no birth control, you'd see the population go up massively.
Massively.
Oh, and by the way, a lot of the countries where we actually see
Oh, and by the way, a lot of the countries where we actually see decline birth rates,
decline birth rates...
A lot of these
people are also very poor.
It's...
It gets
very zesty to think about this exact thing.
So no, it's purely a cultural issue.
I think the whole birth rate
thing is just nonsense.
From the ground up, it's just
fear-mongering.
It's based on like it's just
silliness really we're gonna run out of humans no we're gonna be fine we're gonna be absolutely
fine i promise you not gonna be an issue i guarantee it no it's not even the slightest
amount of issue everybody's like these, these countries are going to collapse.
They're going to be just fine.
I promise you.
If you look at the technology and you look at the humans
and you look at the patterns of human behavior over time,
this is fine.
This is normal.
This is expected.
It'll clear itself up in like two generations.
It'll go up again, then it'll go down.
Then it'll go up again, then it'll go down.
It's the same thing that we had with global warming,
global cooling before that, global warming before that,
global cooling before that.
It's just, we're afraid. We're skittish,
fearful creatures. We see the numbers,
we go, ah, but no, we have technology
to make up for the lack of people.
It's not going to be an issue.
actually, there's a lot
to unpack here with that one. No, it's definitely going to be an issue. No, I actually didn't. There's a lot to unpack here with that one.
No, it's definitely going to be an issue.
Especially in those countries.
Can you find me
the best resource,
the most convincing video you can find
for the whole natalism
argument? And I will do the exact same
thing I'm doing with seed oils, where I'm like,
here's all the problems with their argument and why it's
complete nonsense.
Hey, man. Perfect timing. doing with seed oils where i'm like all right here's all the problems with their argument and why it's complete nonsense yeah i'll do this yeah hey man hey hi perfect timing yes well the difference is when we used to have populations decreasing massively what ended up happening is
that the older and less healthy people ended up dying first. Whereas now we have a complete population pyramid collapse.
That's the major difference.
You're getting a bunch of old people and you're not getting enough young people.
And the young people need to subsidize all the old people.
Okay.
Do you know what my source is?
The country of Japan.
The entire thing.
Why Japan? Why not South Korea?
Because South Korea has recently just
had a demographic dividend.
So even though their birth rate is lower,
it's not going to be felt for another 10, 20 years.
Japan hit it way sooner.
And how's Japan doing right now?
Last I checked, they were doing pretty all right.
Oh, are they doing all right?
Well, let's see.
They used to be the second largest economy in the world.
Now they've gone, then they went to third.
Now they're fourth.
Germany overtook them.
They're probably going to keep dropping.
While there's been inflation all this time, their economy has stayed around the same.
While there has been inflation, they have almost a 300% debt-to-GDP ratio.
And no one really is optimistic that any of this is going to change,
and the country is probably going to go down a very bad path.
What's the U.S.' it's like a hundred and something percent
pretty sure it's closer to like 10 000 ish no it isn't i'm pretty sure our gdp is
I'm pretty sure our GDP is somewhere around, what, $4 trillion? $5 trillion?
What? It's closer to $40.
Let's see here.
I think the ratio for America is kind of 127% or something like that.
$23.7 trillion for the gdp
yeah it's closer to 30 or 40 it's no at all it's 150 yeah you're right
let's see here japan's is almost 300 it's like 260 or 270 the only reason they've managed to
sustain that is because they have significantly lower interest rates than
the US okay doesn't go completely bankrupt when they're paying the
interest but right now right hands rate is 235%. Yeah.
Right now you have a situation
where over the next few decades 99% of businesses in Japan
are going to go extinct.
Because they have no one to pass it on to.
This is what we call a demographic
collapse actually. So there's that.
That further then accelerates the decrease of the population died and we turned out fine.
That's because it was mostly killing all the old people and also the unhealthy people.
The people that survive were much healthier.
It was not a situation where you had massive amounts of the working population and the young dying.
It was more the older people.
This is more about the population as a percentage of who's at what portion of their life.
The population pyramid, that's what it's called.
You want the population pyramid to look like a pyramid.
Right now, it looks like an upside
down pyramid. That causes nothing but problems as you have social security, you have health care,
you have all of these things going to the elderly, and they're never going to contribute back to
society. They're just taking and taking and taking and taking and taking, and this is going to cause societal collapse.
Or we'll just stop paying them.
That's also an option.
Oh, good luck doing that on democracy.
Oh, it's real easy.
You just don't pay them.
You just don't do a thing.
Super simple.
Yeah, good luck staying in power.
What are they going to do?
They'll be dead by the next election cycle.
They don't have money to live.
Don't worry about it.
No, that's not how it works.
I know, that was a joke.
If you have an upside-down population pyramid, you're just going to get more and more old people
as time goes on, as a percentage of your population.
Yeah, unless you stop having people, in which case,
then the young people will eventually be more than the old people.
As if it's some kind of wave that goes up and down.
What's happening right now is that we have an upside-down pyramid.
That's the whole thing.
So as time goes on, the percentage of old people increases
not yeah i mean i mean i goes and then the bottom of the pyramid is at the top again
yeah and then when the bottom is then they're old again do you not understand do you not understand
because apparently you don't understand this very basic math.
Alright, low number starts over here, then time happens, low number's over here, then big number's over here.
Okay, and when a low number gets up...
It goes up and then down, and then up and then down.
What is this retarded argument?
This is called human history. This is how time works.
No, it is. Our time. This is how time works.
Our time is not like any time... This is like when you said heart attacks were invented in the 1900s.
It's just silly.
You're misconstruing my argument, firstly.
Heart attacks rarely ever happened before the 1900s.
Correct.
There was a massive explosion of them with sea doors. It rarely ever happened before the 1900s. Correct.
It was a massive explosion of them with sea noise.
Stop misconstruing my argument.
I'm not misconstruing your argument.
I'm saying you are wrong.
No, I am correct, and you are wrong.
No, you are wrong.
You are not using all of the information.
Going back to 1884, when we figured out that diseases weren't caused by bad smells. That's why people weren't
dying of heart attacks before the 1900s. They were dying from disease because we didn't know how the
shit worked. And you could see the evolution of heart health starting in the 1700s when people
started dying less and less as we figured out more and more about health. You have records of
as we've figured out more and more about health.
You have records of all sorts of autopsy things from the 1700s in America and France,
where we were starting to figure out, oh, if you live long enough, your heart will just go off,
which is something that we didn't really have the ability to do because the echocardiogram also wasn't invented until 1893.
And even then, it was a 600-pound device that you couldn't exactly carry around, which is why the first recorded studies of heart attacks were done on animals, because an echocardiogram was a big fuck-off machine that you couldn't bring into places.
So up until that point, we didn't know that heart attacks were a thing, and even then, most people didn't live long enough to get to that point because they were dying of diseases, because the average life expectancy was about half of what it is now. So most
people would die by the time they were like 40 or 50, which means they didn't have enough
time for their hearts to crap out on them.
Is that why the entirety of the United States freaked out when their president had a heart
attack and they had never heard of this thing before?
Correct.
That is exactly why.
Do you not see how that disproves your argument?
I do not, yes.
Would you like to elaborate, actually?
Yeah, please.
Okay.
This is something that people didn't even know existed before their president had a heart attack.
Okay.
The fact that they had never seen something like this before.
It just wasn't.
And now we're seeing it all the time.
It wasn't something that this before. It just wasn't... It wasn't something everybody knew.
It wasn't something that everybody knew.
It's something that we knew about
going back to the 3000s BC.
There are records of heart attacks.
People knew.
People knew that things...
It was increasing, right?
But the general public
did not know anything about it
because they had never met
a single person that had this.
Correct.
Then, as CEDAWs increase, at the same exact pace as the consumption of CEDAWs increase,
you have an increase in heart attacks.
Yep.
Okay.
At the same exact rate.
You also have the same increase in heart attacks with the prevalence of motor carriages. Are cars responsible for heart attacks?
now were actually made for those cars. They were initially used for car oil. So when they
stopped using them as often, they started feeding them to people. That's what explains the
correlation between the cars. Also consider that we have more inflammation than ever before,
which also makes a lot of sense, especially as these things were introduced. We didn't just like,
you know, heart attacks increase. Okay, you know, you can make that argument, but there are a whole bunch of other things.
Just merely focusing on the heart attacks is not enough.
Like, if you take a picture of a bunch of people at a beach in like the 1960s and the 1950s,
everybody looks really, really good, really healthy, and they even live.
Many of them still live today, to this very fucking day.
They're like almost in their 80s, 90s, all of those people.
Whereas when you take a picture of people on a beach today, those people will not live into their 80s.
They will die in their 70s.
Maybe they'll reach their 80s.
Almost none of them will reach their 90s.
And look at them, they're all fucking obese as sick.
So many more of them are reaching 90 than they did in the 50s.
We're not healthier. We're like, we're not healthier. Yes, we're not healthier. We're not
healthier than we were better. We live longer. No. Hold on. Hold on. That is completely misleading.
That is completely misleading. Firstly, the reason we quote unquote live longer is because we had so
many kids dying at under five years old.
Yeah.
That was actually manipulating the number of how old, how many years people lived down.
If you managed to make it until 10 years old, you were way more likely to survive till 80.
We had tons of people living in their 80s, 90s, 100.
It wasn't that
everyone was dying at 30.
It was just people died at 30
on average because so many young people
died under 5 years old.
There's also a point where
when people hit a certain age,
how fast they die kind of levels off at the rate of change.
I think it's like in the mid-80s, if you make it to your mid-80s, the chances of you dying the next year is the same as the year after that.
Just about.
so like if you make it to that point
your chances of making it further
are much higher than it is to making
to that point
is it just me or is everybody like cutting
out periodically
yeah just you
mostly getting a whole bunch of other DMs
of people saying that the space isn't working as well.
I'm like, yeah.
Like, my internet's pretty stable.
I can see the traffic.
It good.
I'm not hearing anything.
Interesting.
Walmart run is complete thank god
what'd you get
bananas paper towels
ice cream and uh
an ar-15
what are you about to do exactly
gym i did the gym thing yesterday so i didn't have to do, exactly? Jim.
Jim? I did the Jim thing yesterday,
so I didn't have to do it today.
Jim is a lucky man.
Still, like, trying to recover a few things after, like,
you know, all the antibiotics and things.
Yeah.
Okay, there my audio cutout.
See, that's what I'm saying. It just periodically
happens. And for that, my audio
didn't cut out at any other point, which is really weird.
I can also see when I open the microphone,
normally there should be the little bouncy button thingies,
you know, like the little stripes that
appear. That is not happening next to my name.
And whenever that starts happening, that's when things
start getting zesty.
Yeah, that tracks. See, it's working away a little bit, and's when things start getting zesty. Yeah, that tracks.
See, it's working away a little bit, and then it breaks.
Good old spaces.
I don't know, man.
It hasn't been this bad before, honestly.
It's as bad as the algorithm.
Yeah, it does talk a bit, doesn't it?
I mean, look at this.
We have, like, 200 comments on the space and our current impressions are like 7.2k.
What?
Bro.
Get out of here, man.
I'm sorry.
It's pretty damn bad.
But if I post like two words and have like an AI image in there,
it's like 300,000.
Yeah.
I wrote an article and then I spent like the whole day writing it and then it
barely got any views,
maybe 2k.
I never ended up posting the articles.
Like this is the thing that I thought was a massive mistake,
because they did this thing once
where they boosted Spaces links for a little bit,
and then Spaces links were the most performative thing of all.
I think that they should have done that same thing for articles,
because the thing is this, right?
And also included the feature to make articles
accessible to subscribers only as well, right?
Because if you make an article, it's just going to show up on your profile.
There's not really much you can do about it.
The problem is, if you do then have an article,
and you want to have these things circulate around on the platform for free,
then basically you should make those links have higher weighting in the algorithm
so that no matter what's on it, they will just perform and you'll see articles.
You'll see at least two to three articles in your feed.
Yeah, and nothing's more upsetting than spending so much time on an article
for it to get absolutely no traction whatsoever.
That's so demoralizing.
Yeah, I think it's also gotten considerably worse.
I also think it's gotten considerably worse.
For a period of time, there was this sorting where basically all of these slop posts,
and verifiably, slop posts were performing better than everything else
and just kept polluting everybody's
feeds and so you just had to, like, mute certain types of
words. And then after that, it would kind of
improve a little bit and that was it. But the
engagement is still massively down because all of it trends
towards the slop posts and you just kind of sit here and you
deal with this kind of stuff. And look, here's the thing, right? Like, it's
you got to ask yourself, like, hey,
how do I know all these things?
How do I notice all these things? Well, I spend close to
40 to 50 hours a week on this app, and so
I just kind of see everything that happens.
Very little goes past me.
And that is one of those things. And this one is very
noticeable. Before there was certain
small shifts,
and I was like, oh yeah, they're tweaking around things.
Now it's just like, so what if we
threw the microwave out of the room?
Drove the car off the cliff.
Yeah, no, we're not at the drive off the cart we're not we're not at the drive off the cliff part yet but you still like
the the flooring is happening so i'm a little bit are we gonna turn and do the like the tokyo drift
and stop at the edge or like are we not doing that i don't know we should all be able to vote on the CEO. That's my opinion.
It's tiring.
I, like, considered doing this on, like,
I considered doing this on Android the other day.
That's what I was considering.
Because I was like, I didn't remember any of these glitches,
but then I just was like, oh, no no, actually it was a lot worse over there.
The one that was always interesting is communities because they're completely broken.
If you post
something into communities and you don't share it with your followers,
your post will get exactly
zero reach.
It doesn't even help
that if you go into the communities and you go
into the most recent, it doesn't even show the most
recent, like, at all.
I don't know
how it picks and chooses what appears there,
but it is not the most recent.
It does not go in chronological order.
Yeah.
And if it's not something that was
shared with followers, it pretty much, like, even then, if you go looking for it, it's not something that was shared with followers it pretty much like even then
if you go looking for it
it doesn't get any sorting
whatsoever
it's nuts
it's a very discouraging
time that we're in
to be an avid ex-user
it really is
a content creator
it's very frustrating
yeah it pretty much is especially
like for me like it's it's like i get that there's things that are being done but at the same time
it's like bro like you know the thing is look there is favoring for smaller accounts now
that's understandable but like the thing is the big accounts are what made X.
That's what it is.
That's always what it is.
You have your creators, and they make things.
You can then have people that are doing niche things,
and they then get picked up by those creators,
and you have a nice ecosystem.
Everybody profits.
That's why we have quote posts,
and we have all of these means by which we can share content, and then everyone would benefit, right? But here's the
thing. If now let's say an enthusiast in your content, and he's more of like the niche account
that's bigger than other ways. And somebody asks that, that account, Hey, do you know anyone who
does this one particular thing? And be like, Oh, yes, I know this one dude who does this like thing
100%. And you quote post one of his pieces and it's like hey by the way this guy
does this thing that a bunch of people asked me about and because but here's the thing right
because you mentioned whatever that thing was on your profile it gets no reach at all
so even though quote posts are already overrated in the system and they are you can tell
it does it does very little to like to undo the lack in sorting that's currently
happening.
And it's unfortunate, but that's what it is.
And that's true.
It's exactly what's happening.
And I get people messaging me on other platforms going like, hey, man, I don't see your posts
anymore at all.
Sometimes I don't even get the notifications that I've explicitly set for you and it's like hmm interesting you know so i don't know what to
yeah that's crazy too like sometimes they're just like no no no notifications why oh don't feel like not now. Okay.
It used to work just fine.
That's the thing that upsets me even more,
because I've used the notification thing for a long time. But I think, I want to say,
four or five months ago
is when it just started being like,
give you like half of them.
It's fine.
What do you guys think?
Do you think that maybe they took the most talented
that was working on the X and algorithm
and that kind of thing
and moved them over to the Grok, the XAI?
Do you think that's possible?
I don't know, to be honest.
I really don't know.
No idea.
It seems like we're working with the B team here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a whole set of interesting things.
But yeah. I just keep... I mean I just do still keep posting no matter what like that's just kind of a
thing that I do yeah especially there's current like one thing that has
definitely become apparent in the algorithm is that if you take a day off
from posting you're gonna get punished by Professor X.
That's going to happen.
Yeah.
Sucks eggs.
Especially when I get, like, I don't know,
I've been autistically fixated on a video game,
and as such, I haven't been posting that much.
And, like, when I come back come back it's like i'll make a
post and it'll have like a hundred views and i'm like oops professor x is mad at me
but then if you post consistently for like two or three days it goes back to where
exactly where it was it's fine yeah instead of two people seeing it, you have 12 people seeing it.
Hell yeah!
Yeah.
It's really interesting schizo-fuel,
by the way. It's really interesting schizo-fuel.
Like, you get that on my live stream,
it's like a live stream, I get the comments in,
and then it's like, I get stuff like that.
It's like, why are you nuking my reach?
I'm like, who do you thinking my reach i'm like who do you
think i am i'm like sitting here playing fucking halo infinite and i don't even know who you are
and you're coming in going you nuked my reach i'm like huh i didn't do shit i don't have any of that
power and if i did like you wouldn't even know you it would actually work. Like, I'm a permanent solutions guy.
Like, you wouldn't even be able to say that the reach has been nuked.
Like, I'm German, okay?
We are very absolute and bureaucratic in the things that we do, you know?
Do you think I'm just going to, like, loose end it?
Don't insult me, man.
Like, that's crazy to me.
Like, it's absolutely insane.
So I get that because, like, you know, it reaches down for a lot of people.
And I say, eh, that happens, you know. I don't complain.
I'm just stating how it is, you know. I just
keep doing the thing, as I always do. And I have
done so for years. But then I get, like, that
kind of stuff. And the reason, one of my favorite
recent ones was somebody who said,
hey, I'm deleting my ex-account because of you. I'm like,
how is that? Oh, because you
banned my YouTube channel. I'm like, what?
That makes no sense! Like, how is that? Oh, because you banned my YouTube channel. I'm like, what? That makes no sense.
Like, take three steps back and really examine how stupid the statement is.
And if you bring that shit up again, I'm going to block you.
I'm not doing this today.
And then, and then, fun shit.
After that finished, an hour later, they went on my fucking YouTube live stream to spam me there.
I'm like, oh, okay, so now I'm definitely going to hide your comments for like 30
minutes, and we're just going to see how well
actually it did 30 seconds, so I was like, okay, I'm just going to
hide you on the channel for like 30 seconds, and we're going to
see if you calm down after that. Did it again,
it's like, this guy's using drugs.
I'm like, okay, permaban, fuck you.
It's not going to ban their channel or anything.
It's just going to not allow them to interact with my shit.
Like, who the fuck are you?
What kind of drugs? I'm not gonna not allow them to interact with my shit. Like, who the fuck are you? What kind of jokes?
I'm not gonna sit there while I'm playing.
And it's always when I'm doing that kind of stuff as well.
It's always when I do that kind of stuff.
It's like they target that.
I'm like, bro, I am sitting here playing my video games.
You come on here while I'm trying to have fun.
And try to boss me like this?
Bro, bro, bro, bro, bro.
No, no, no, no, no.
We don't do that here.
You gotta come out with a more ethical kind of thing.
Enough like that.
That's not okay, man.
Let's have some standards.
Have some class.
Just a little bit.
I don't know.
That's asking an awful lot of modern society.
Real.
Just don't be shitty. I don't know about that. I don't be shitty.
I don't know about that.
I don't know.
Any of you guys taking nootropics?
Nah.
I'm a very simple person.
I don't eat things that de-boost my body.
And I do eat things that do boost my body.
No, you do take nootropics, actually.
Methylene blue.
Oh, that's a nootropic? Okay, sure, then I take one.
Yeah.
I can kind of do without that one, to be honest.
But it's nice, it's a little additional vector that helps.
Does cocaine count as a nootropic?
I'll count it.
Well, either way, I still don't.
What a tease, man.
What a tease.
Yeah.
I mean, that's like if you're Mike Metzer
and you're trying to figure out how to, like,
overpower yourself.
So it doesn't, you know, it's like, you're not going to do that.
But yeah.
God, I just triggered JP's
autism.
Bruh. No, no, no.
What's that?
I said I triggered
your autism. I got the
rapid fire DMs, man,
coming from about nootropics.
Yeah, yeah.
I love me some nootropics. Yeah, yeah. I love me some nootropics.
Great.
JP sent me a DM, too, but I can't look
at it, because if I go to my chat tab,
my ex-Apple crashed.
Nice.
I'll send it to you over
signal.
I just have to tell people that
whenever I'm in a space is, because they'll send me a message
reacting to something I'm saying
in a space, and then I'll get to it
when the space is over. They won't include
context, and then I'll just see
the message, and I'll be like, I have no
idea what the fuck this is about.
Not even the slightest clue.
It's just like they wrote a sentence responding to something I was saying in a two-hour-long conversation.
I have to look at it and be like, it's a nice little mystery.
What on earth could this be a response to?
And oftentimes, they're just people being angry about something in a way that i have
no idea what they're on about
it's a lot of fun i love it keep it up everyone i love the little mysteries
like somebody wants message me why do you pretend to be dumb I don't I'm just naturally the stupid
what do you want from me yeah also like ads are I'm trying to like look into ads and it's not
yeah I ran an ad on X for one of my businesses once
and my rate of return was exactly zero.
That's crazy, wow.
I'm not allowed to run ads on X.
I'm going to run the timechain organization account
to the...
We're going to run it to the to the
we're going to run it to the end
of the year I think and then we're going to just
switch back
to the description I think because
it's like the memetics
are nice but the memetics
are just better expressed as a direct
quote post or like direction by
hey there's a thing here that can solve all your problems
so it's like
I'm looking at it and it's not
adding up
like the only time I've ever seen
anybody talk about that they found something
through someone because of an affiliate badge
is in my case because a whole bunch of schizoids
were like uh hey
um why are you
affiliated with Rebellionaire? What does that
mean? I'm like,
it doesn't mean anything.
It was just one day these dudes gave me a badge
and I was like, yeah, sure, fuck it, I'll take it.
Everything has to have
a secret meaning, don't you know?
Nothing can
just be a thing that happened
because it was convenient.
There has to be a secret conspiracy
behind it. Otherwise, it's fake news.
Yeah.
Ain't modern
society fun?
A little bit.
A little bit.
Let's just look at this
interesting
unrelated to anything but i've discovered that there is a supreme lack of rabbit population data
i just wanted everybody to know that like it's harder than I thought to find detailed information on long-term rabbit populations
over time.
Why would you need that?
Oh, reasons?
I don't know.
How many rabbits were there in 1974? Turns out I don't know, how many rabbits were there in 1974?
Turns out, we don't know.
Probably bunches.
This is just my life. I just randomly look up just the most random shit that pops in my head.
Rotate in two directions at once, which is objectively rotating in one direction, though.
But then if we take this around the other side of it,
then we just make a good...
See? He's doing it, too.
Huh?
That just looks like he flipped it around. What the fuck?
Okay.
I was looking at something.
The only reason I brought up the rabbit thing
is because that seems like something
that we would have numbers for.
It's weird that there aren't,
to me anyway.
That's just, right?
Does that seem weird to anyone else
or is that just me?
I mean, I don't think it's really
relevant that's the that's the reason it's like oh we just have rabbits like it'd make more sense
to look at rats because they're much more intrusive and annoying than rabbits i mean of course you're
in australia i'm pretty sure you'll find some numbers on that because yeah probably in australia
because they're a real big problem there they also like everything in australia just get fucking huge
yeah the only problem...
One of the major problems is that they're
infected by types of viruses
at the end of the year, and then basically you have to go
bunny sniping.
I'm not even kidding.
It's not that you have to go bunny sniping
because it's like,
oh, you have to take them out because the virus is dangerous,
but you have to take them out because the virus is really but you have to take them out because the virus is like really really bad and it really really fucks over the animal like
in a very very bad way like it torches them to death it's it makes sense just snipe them and
they do that quite a lot actually the reason this rabbit thing stick like i have read a paper about the curvature of
toucan beaks
over the course of 12
years. A 12-year study just on
the curvature of different generations
of toucan beaks. We have
that information.
But we don't have how many
rabbits there were in 1974
that nobody thought to be like,
hey, maybe we should just keep, we should track
numbers on these. Like, they might become a pest
at some point.
I'm going to be real confused if there's no squirrel data
because I assume there's squirrel data because squirrels
are a problem.
They're an actual problem.
Lemon raccoons.
They're
very pestful creatures.
Raccoons are probably the most dangerous biggest threat to humans
in the United States
if I had to pick an animal
not that anything is really much of a threat to us
we're kind of OP as fuck i was just i was thinking about that earlier like most animals their range of attack is like
as far as they can reach but humans we could blow up shit on the opposite side of the planet
that's dope or op asO.P. as fuck.
Imagine being a prehistoric creature and the slingshot happens.
Like, what the fuck?
That's gotta blow your fucking mind.
Half the shit's just cutting out. It's crazy
right now. Holy fuck.
That's weird, because I still hear everything.
Odd.
So that cut out, it goes in and out a
little bit like seconds seconds those seconds i see a raised hand oh there's a raised hand
yeah i'm i'm really polite and i wait till you um say my name so i'll put it back up. Here we go. There it is. Okay.
I just want to call my name.
You can just talk whenever you want.
Yeah.
No, it's like proper space etiquette to raise my little hand.
I know I came to see what kind of ice cream you're bringing me back from Walmart.
So I really like the Rocky Road.
It's pretty good.
And if you got some rabbits, they make great burgers.
So Rocky Road and a nice rabbit burger.
I'm a butter pecan guy.
That works.
Whatever you got.
I'm not picky.
Rabbit is really good.
I don't understand why we don't eat it more.
I had lamb for dinner tonight.
Rabbit is horrible.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Pigeon's real good too.
You have to season it right.
You don't want it to be too gamey. Depends on how you cook it.
Rabbit's just
like rough meat.
That's how you use it
in stew.
It makes a really
nice burger if it's seasoned right.
Yeah, but
it's like bison. You can't get
too fancy with it. Otherwise, it just turns into
ass. Like the golden
rule with bison burgers is
if it costs more than five bucks, it's probably
shit.
I don't know why
that is. Just any expensive
bison burger I've ever had is absolutely awful,
whereas every cheap-ass one
I've ever had is the most delicious thing
ever. Have you not ever
eaten at Ted's? I don't even
know what Ted's is.
Okay. Yeah, you need to eaten at Ted's? I don't even know what Ted's is. Okay.
Yeah, you need to find a Ted's.
Go eat some bison at Ted's, bro.
I've had bison at the 5-8 Club in Minnesota.
That was a bison Juicy Lucy, so its core was cheese.
I have to say the best burger I've ever ate
was at the Tesla Diner.
10 out of 10, make sure you get the Wagyu Chili on there
with some bacon. Oh my gosh.
It was amazing.
The absolute best burger
I've ever had was the D Spot
in Minnesota.
They make a burger called the 50-50
which is just
half ground beef, half bacon.
It's fucking delicious.
I'm going to add it to my list, but it's going to be so hard to beat because you got to watch a movie, charge your car, everything right there in one spot.
spot is amazing.
It was amazing.
At the D spot once,
they had to evacuate the building
because they were making
one of their hot sauces and
somebody dropped the pepper container.
So it was pretty much
like a huge cloud of
ghost pepper smoke filled
the restaurant like
fucking tear gas.
Sounds fucking awful.
Could you imagine being that chef, though?
Everybody run!
Trust me!
Sounds like a great way to sell milk.
Run me through your thought process.
Well, if you get pepper spray in the eye, you want some milk.
So if there's like a big giant pepper bomb going off, it'd be a great time to get rid of milk.
Huh.
I wonder if that works for lactose-free milk.
I heard almonds the best.
That's fucking weird I'm kidding so please don't pour almond milk in your eyes
Good thank you for clarifying
That seems like
I don't know
Pouring milk in your eyes in the first place
Seems like iffy
Almond milk seems real iffy.
I'm not 100% certain on this, but if my memory of chemistry is correct,
that the particles in almond milk are significantly more abrasive than the proteins that are in standard dairy.
I believe lactose molecules tend to be more rounded, which is what actually made me wonder about the lactose-free milk in the first place.
I cannot get over lactose-free milk.
It's so good.
Look, it's so weird that just kind of pre-digesting that lactose
makes milk last forever.
And it tastes better, I think,
personally.
Out of all of the weird
milk tech that has come out
in this millennium,
lactose-free milk, I think
is the pinnacle.
Yeah, there's lots of weird shit that's been going on.
Yeah.
Also,
kind of to bring it back to the original discussion,
I think that a lot of the reasoning
that's being used for why certain
things are okay for the human to consume is reasoning that has proven to be completely incorrect as well.
That's also part of the arguments that we usually make around these very specific things that we consume.
For instance, if you ask conventionally anybody about if it is good or not to eat steak,
then there's usually this argument that comes out
where people say,
oh, well, your risk of cancer is increased by that
or that you get cancer from it,
which is complete bullshit, by the way,
because the only parts that you can possibly,
by the way, get cancer from
are the bits where you overcook the meat effectively
and then it creates these compounds
which are technically carcinogenic, right?
That's the issue right there. And you can't really consume this in enough volume
that actually becomes a real issue. And like, if that is supposedly bad, you may as well just stop
drinking all soft drinks entirely. Because the risk of cancer, the risk of increase to you getting
cancer is higher when you drink a singular can of diet coke
than if you like ate a shit ton of like well-done meat which by the way is an abomination as it
stands the the the well-done meat part specifically it's just disgusting that's actually something
that comes up in a whole lot with health things oftentimes people will be like, this is dangerous. It's just like, yeah, if you cook it wrong, just don't do that.
That's like eating fugu or whatever the pufferfish is.
And like, just like, yeah, that's dangerous too.
Unless you do it right.
Just like, it's an important factor to play into it.
People just use it as generalization thing.
And it's so infuriating.
Especially when they're pulling out studies.
There will often be things where they're like, this causes cancer. And then you look at it, it's like, in rats, when you feed them 400 times what any human would even conceivably consume in a body weight
to mass ratio.
This is just
this isn't how health works.
That's why
you have so many weird arguments with
eggs too, where people are like, eggs are good,
eggs are bad, eggs are good, eggs are bad.
Back and forth, over and over again.
Yeah,
because that's largely because of the cholesterol thing,
because we consume a whole bunch of things that oxidizes,
and you have that gameplay loop.
Would you want to guess what one of those primary oxidizers is?
I don't know.
Seed oils.
But there are no seed oils in eggs.
No, but what do you fry them in?
Butter?
No, a lot of people just use fucking seed oils for shit.
And you eat that on top of everything else, because that's inside most of everything, actually.
That's weird.
Use butter for eggs.
So even like, say for instance, the average person eats a ton of fries, so you can add
on top of that.
Any kind of cholesterol.
Even if you don't get the cholesterol from the egg,
you have other sources of cholesterol.
Which is also why when later it turned out,
holy shit, we're oxidizing this stuff,
and it's fucking us up, we probably should deal with this.
The solution was then,
oh, we should just reduce our intake of cholesterol.
Which is not the solution,
because if you reduce your intake of cholesterol,
your risk of cancer goes up.
Because you can't defend against it anymore.
That's why the rates of cancer have actually gone out.
As it turns out, cholesterol is kind of important.
Yeah.
So we figured out,
we've begun oxidizing these things,
and it's like, well, we've got to take out the cholesterol,
not the thing that's oxidizing it.
It's like, because we put a ton of oxidants in our body,
and that is one of the primary ones,
which are in almost anything. Even if you were to take a can of tuna and you ask, oh well
inherently there's nothing unhealthy about the can of tuna but what does usually the tuna come in?
It comes in with a kind of oil. I can actually pull out a can, I have probably a can
around here, I don't eat this anymore but like I used to because I would skim the oil off the top
so that I wouldn't eat it. I probably have a can of tuna around here somewhere.
Let me just go look.
And in it, you will find you have sunflower oil.
Now, if you want an oil that is good, that you can actually still cook with, that isn't as problematic, use olive oil.
Or avocado oil.
That works too.
If you must use an oil, use that.
Use those two because
they don't break down as bad as badly and leave behind all the bits that you don't want right
the main issue with a lot of these other oils is the treatment process that then you know you are
left with this very unstable compound that rapidly oxidizes once you heat it up again because they
already massively oxidize before that even like you even begin oxidizing them for the final step,
which is, like, where your consumption happens.
So even if you're like, actually, it's less risky
to basically drink this stuff
than it is to fry with it.
Like, you wouldn't even be an issue as much.
But the final step where you break it down,
that's where the problem begins.
The problem really happens when you heat it up,
cool it down, heat up, cool it down, heat up.
Like, that's what causes most of the oxidation to happen is repeated heating.
Part of the actual deodorization process, as they call it, removes almost all of the oxidants in it from the refining process.
And then from that point, what happens after that is when you heat it up and cool it down is when it gets reintroduced, which is kind of how our digestive and taste system works as we are geared to our bodies are designed to find things that are harmful, distasteful most of the time.
It's not a perfect system, obviously.
Yeah, but generally, you'd ought to cut out those
exact things these are risk factors it doesn't make any fucking sense whatsoever like you know
these these these types of problems do not occur in any of the other products that we have available
to us like butter or tala or ghee or any one of those they're really really good right even olive
oil it's not as bad not even close as bad right because the thing is this right the the initial
reason why we even consume this garbage and it it is garbage, definitely, is because of the bad nutrition science gameplay loop. We figure out there's a bunch of shit. We can eat this shit. And it doesn't immediately cause harm. Now we do some research and figure out, ah, it doesn't cause as much harm. But it still causes some harm.
And then later when we compare what that stuff is to the original stuff that we used to eat,
then technically our health is less when we eat the new stuff over the stuff that we used to eat.
And now we actually have a problem.
Because you have actually increased the risks.
You've increased all of the strain.
You've increased all of this kind of stuff.
While technically speaking, totally fine to consume,
technically, it's a lot worse of an alternative than the other thing that you're eating.
Which didn't even come with a lot of the risks that are inherent than the other thing that you're eating. Which didn't even come with a lot of the risks
that are inherent to the new thing that you're consuming
as a replacement to the original thing.
That didn't need to be replaced just because it makes your shit out of money.
Stuff like Crisco and all that kind of stuff
that was added in later. It's complete bullshit.
You used to use lard for shit. It used to be better.
We don't need any of these things.
This is completely useless.
Margarine is the same stuff.
With margarine, it was actually so glaringly bad, because not only
was it glaringly bad, but it also tasted like absolute dog shit, so it just kind of
fell off, you know? It just kind of fell off.
But everyone forgot, by the way, you know that stuff that
this is made out of is also still in a whole bunch of other stuff.
So you didn't actually get rid of the problem, you just got rid of the most obvious, disgusting-tasting one. By the way, they all taste
disgusting ones. You actually take it out of your diet, you immediately smell it in everything,
and you will no longer eat whatever you smell it in, which actually ends up saving you a lot
of problems. You don't actually get hungry anymore when you see a fast food place. You feel disgusted,
actually. When I smell like a McDonald's, when I smell
some of these places where they fry things,
I actually get viscerally disgusted now.
It's really interesting, because I can smell these compounds.
That's extra
interesting to me, because I think the only one that
actually does give me that response is Subway,
and they don't really fry things.
Yeah, I mean, Subway does whatever they do.
Subway has a smell.
Yeah, but specifically what I'm saying is not that it's a smell
that comes out of specific places in terms of the company.
It comes out of this stuff that they use.
Like, I could smell it on any burger from any one of these people.
Like, any one of them.
What makes Sub subway smell like subway
though that's always been the mystery i don't fucking know cleaning process the types of like
cooking that they do lack of ventilation i don't know i don't a whole bunch of things they're all
standardized systems i don't know what it is either they all smell the same and it's it's
probably the right thing it's we're probably smelling the bread that they cook because i think
they cooked the bread on site i think it of smells like lettuce, though, I think.
If I had to give it a smell, it would be a lettuce-y smell.
They have to cover that shit in chemicals to keep it from turning brown while it's open and exposed to air like that.
Yeah, lettuce do be like that.
It's just, I don't know.
It doesn't happen in any other sub shop.
Is it just Subway?
Yeah, I have a theory.
I don't have any proof to it.
But a lot of these companies are owned by conglomerates
that own a whole bunch of other companies that make shit.
I'm going to use Hidden Valley Ranch for an example.
It has a chemical in it called EDTA, which we make EDTA.
It's not something that we have as a byproduct of making other stuff.
But it's made with a byproduct that is used to make sterling gloves, I think
they're called. They're like the plastic gloves that are not, they're not, what's it called?
The one with the L?
Latex?
Yeah, yeah. The plastic gloves that are not made with latex, there's a byproduct for that that gets used to make it.
And you know who makes those gloves?
The Clorox Chemical Company.
Well, you know who owns Hidden Valley Ranch?
The Clorox Chemical Company.
used their byproduct
that they would otherwise have to
dispose of in an
ecological way.
They hide it in our food
so they can get rid of
so they can cut that cost.
We've seen it with fluoride.
The fluoride that they put in water
is a byproduct of them making aluminum foil.
There's a lot of stuff like
the yellow food dye.
There's two different types of fluoride, by the way.
There's a natural occurring fluoride, and then there's
this artificially occurring fluoride.
These are very two different types of fluoride, and the one that's
naturally occurring is actually good for you, and the one that
you're supposed to be
taking in some ways. You just get
naturally these amounts in.
But the stuff that's actually coming out of your tap is not that it's actually the thing that does the opposite
of the stuff that is good. But yeah, the, the, the, not the FDA, the EPA went to, um, uh, the
American aluminum, I think was the name of the company and was like, Hey, all of this stuff that
you're disposing of is toxic and you need to dispose of it properly yeah let's put it in
the water supply you know what's funny you know what's funny by the way in order to get rid of
like particulates and inside of water they use a process that's called aluminium flocculation
right and that like you know gets rid of all the shit that's inside of it and uh that increases
your risk of dementia specifically in the places where they use it. They have higher incidences of this. Funny how that works, eh?
It's everywhere.
Yellow food dye is a byproduct of coal power plants.
There's a sludge that comes out of the power plant
after it burns the coal,
and they just...
Here's yellow food dye.
It's literally everywhere.
You go to the back of a box...
Bro, you know an idea they use a lead-based version of that, right?
Yeah, because they probably
use lead in manufacturing, and they gotta get rid
of the byproduct.
Do not buy the fucking, like, unless you absolutely
know what's in the yellow
you know, what is that?
What they call the Haldi powder? Unless you
know what's in it, really know what's in it, you know
that the manufacturer doesn't, like, you know, color it,
then do not use it,
believe me. I always wondered how the
shit would color everything so
extensively in such a really strange
way. I mean, clearly, of course, you know, that's
part of the spice itself, it's natural, but like
sometimes a little too zesty.
Like it lasts too long.
I guess it's still a step
up from the mercury we were using
for centuries.
That's a plus.
Well, yeah, we were using
that for a lot of things, and we still use it for mining.
My favorite was
that it used to just be the main medicine.
Just take some mercury.
Great.
Good job, doctors. How did the
mad hatters become mad? Because the
hatters used to use mercury to keep the hat stiff instead of starch.
Yep.
There's that.
There's a lot of things.
I do have to admit, reading medical texts from before the late 1900s are so amusing.
It's so good how people were like, oh, it's clearly caused by this.
This flower creates bad air.
What?
And like, at the same time, you had completely fascinating medical advances that were going on.
Like in France, one of the big things they were doing to understand the cardiovascular system was when somebody died, they
would fill their veins with wax
and then wait for them to decompose
and then they would just have a wax
outline of the entire
cardiovascular system.
That shit was going on at the same
time that you had people who were
like creating
perfume medicines, who were
like, just put this oil in your house and it will cure all your ailments.
And also drink this mercury and put these leeches on you.
It's just,
yeah. It's like one of the people that you asked for was like the,
the bloodletting. Like we're just going to do bloodletting.
It was also another one of those things that it's coming back in some ways.
And I'm like, Oh, enough ah enough bad blood that was a thing bringing that shit back and
they introduce it in like social media posts that and hair pulling as well we have to release the
humors i've always been a fan of hair pulling bro are you bald oh not my own hair bro clearly this fucking shit i knew exactly what you
were doing there man holy fuck and yet you walked right into it now listen the thing i'm talking
about is actual hair pulling like where you because the hair is kind of like attached in
a certain way to like the skin that's on your skull and that is attached to you know your skull in a certain way and if you pull that you actually get this like kind of pop feeling
a lot of asians do it and that's why they get bald really easily yeah so they have like they do the
thing and that like can damage your shit and make you bald and then they do another thing to basically
stimulate still though the blood flow in the skull in the in the in the the skin that's on top of
the skull right so that the thing
that you did that could make you bald doesn't actually end up making you bald hair pulling
stimulates my blood flow too yeah yeah sure wait who's hair hmm not mine uh never mind okay the The thing is, when it comes to health and medicine, people leave fucking anything.
Use homeopathy as an example.
That's the silliest thing.
Is it okay to pull the homies hair?
If you take any homeopathic medicine
like a 50th turn
the odds of it having
any amount of medication are less than
that of just standard water
it becomes so
ridiculous in the
fractionalization of the molecules
it's just like
it's complete
nonsense molecularly it's complete nonsense
like even the guy who invented homeopathy probably would have been like oh yep this was nonsense i
was wrong and yet it has had this huge resurgence of homeopathic it's basically
a huge industry just based on the placebo effect fascinating
homeopathy okay oh i know this
like it also depends on where you draw the line on what homeopathic medicine is.
Because, like, you know, you could consider creatine a homeopathic remedy.
And that's, you know, so much research has come up.
It's objectively false because, like, you know, it does have effect.
It very much so does have effect.
Positive effect, my dad.
By the way, this is one of the beautiful things about eating steak as well.
If you eat a bunch of that steak, you actually naturally get this. Not in the volumes
that you would if you were to, like, you know, supplement it like a lot of people do, but you
actually do get a fair amount of it that way, which also, like, fills out your muscles and does
all these things, and you need that. Because if you don't have that, then your muscles are going
to be, like, kind of fucked up and, you know, all that kind of shit. Oh, and make sure, always good
hydration, because you know what's going to happen? If you take a whole bunch of creatine, you don't
hydrate properly,
the body is going to basically start taking apart your muscles for water.
Yeah, fun fact.
Oh, and of course, you know, the general quirk of the body is,
unless you are able to, like, tell the body,
hey, I need those muscles, don't take them away from me,
then it's just going to keep doing that.
And then, like, you know, basically losing weight, for instance,
is like where you actually have to exercise a few things,
because otherwise, you know, your body will just kind of fall apart as well.
There's a lot of interesting things.
In clinical homeopathic medicine, it's actually, there's a dilution process involved,
where you take one drop of the actual medicine that you want to include,
you include it to, I i think 50 parts water then you
take one drop from that 50 parts water and add it to one thing of 50 parts water and you do that
about 50 times which there's nothing fucking left yes like when it was invented we hadn't figured
out molecules yet like that hadn't been figured out as a thing.
But now after the fact,
we can actually look at it and be like,
oh, no, no, like you're less likely to get any water from this distilled water that you're using.
Kind of on top of that.
Kind of on top of that.
It's like this weird...
Yeah, kind of on top of that.
It's like these types of medicines
that come in like these little sugar kernels,
you know, that people like take sometimes.
Yeah.
That was like a thing where you take this little fucking globe looking thing and it just like puts the plant extract on it and it's like basically nothing.
And I saw this for the first time.
It was like a Swiss documentary about a Swiss company that was doing it.
And I was sitting there thinking to myself, hey, that's all cute and all, but volume wise, you're never going to get to the bottom of that.
And even if you did, the amount of exposure that you're getting over time is practically negligible.
That's a very small drop of drugs in a very large bucket of drugs.
Like, meh.
Yeah, I believe the math works out that in a 50 times mix, your odds of having a single molecule of the original medicine are like
negligible.
Like just having one molecule of it,
it's probably not even in there.
Yeah.
And again,
that's all like the entire idea was based on water having memory.
Which is, you know,
okay.
Yeah, I get it.
We didn't have molecules figured out.
Like I said, any medical tax from before,
like the 1800s, late 1900s,
they're just kind of, you know, winging it.
I love it.
It's just kind of silly when people still believe
it today, when you
can clearly, like, we understand these,
we can look at it.
We can physically look at it.
It's a thing we can do.
Barely, barely,
but yeah.
Like, it's just when these old things just creep in and people are like oh no it's totally it works like no i understand i understand what's happening and
i don't want to take that away from people because if you think it works it does work that's how the placebo effect works but at the same time it it's just silly it's so silly it's it's nonsense
it's like a heavy water That was a thing that the...
Was it heavy water?
I believe that was the thing that the Soviet scientists came out with.
They're like, oh, you can do all sorts of stuff with this special water.
And then we looked into it and they're like, oh, it's nothing.
It's absolutely nothing.
It's just water.
It's not entirely true. Heavy water is very different. The stuff that we use is actual heavy water because it's just just water it's not entirely true heavy water is very different like
the stuff that we use like actual heavy water because it's deuterium i'm thinking i don't think
heavy water is the right term there was some soviet thing that came out where they they were
like it's some special kind of water and it wound up being like absolutely nothing it was just normal
and it wound up being absolutely nothing.
It was just normal water.
I know heavy water is more true.
Heavy water is a radiation waste, I think.
But there's...
It's like heavy particulate water, right?
Well, it's using a thing that's different
from what normal water is using.
Like it switches the bits out for deuterium, right? Yeah. That's what
makes it heavy. You can still technically consume
it, but bits that
you would need for cell division
are not included. So actually, if you were to
give this to a plant, then the plant would never grow.
Which they actually did. They did that. You don't heal.
You just die.
Yeah.
It's also
heavier than normal water
because the stuff for the deuterium is
heavier than the stuff that's normally bound to it.
Right? So.
I'll see if I can find the thing
I'm actually thinking of.
Because, like, my brain is telling me
it's not heavy water. That's a completely different
thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. And I guess I'm just going to hope
that my app doesn't crash when I try to use Grock.
Nice.
I should really get a new phone.
I should really get a new phone.
I am pretty sure something has gone wrong with the RAM on this one.
It does not seem happy some days.
So the deuterium is actually replacing the hydrogen.
So instead of hydrogen, you get deuterium.
So instead of H2O, it's D the hydrogen so instead of hydrogen you get deuterium so that's like instead of h2o it's d2o so it's two deuteriums versus like two hydrogens
which clearly would make things heavier it's fascinating that the thing still behaves like
water does even though you've like changed out something so foundational about it it's really
fascinating out something so foundational about it it's really fascinating Let's see here. Will you find the thing I'm thinking of, Grok?
Pollywater. That's the one.
Hmm. 1960s, Soviet physicist Boris Dujoguin and some other guy with a very Russian name announced
the discovery of a new form of water with bizarre properties.
It was thick and syrupy like honey, foiled at around 200 to 300 degrees Celsius or higher,
air froze at negative 40 degrees Celsius or below and had a density.
froze at negative 40 degrees Celsius or below, and had a density.
It was a massive scientific panic in the West
until it was completely debunked and they were just
ordinary water heavily contaminated with dissolved silica,
organic sweat residues, and other impurities from glass
capillaries and poor lab hygiene.
When they did it in a normal lab,
it was perfectly fine.
So yeah, that was the thing.
Polywater, that was the word.
polymerized.
That's the word.
Polymerized.
Basically plastic.
Yeah.
Polymerized plastic.
It says hydrocarbons.
Water with a whole
bunch of plastic and
glass residue in it.
They're like, it's new water!
No, your lab's just dirty, motherfuckers.
What are you up to?
Clean your shit!
That had to be really embarrassing
for those scientists, though.
After the fact
it was more embarrassing to the people that uh that saw this like oh we have a great scientific
gap between like us and russia fuck we need to figure this shit out and they're like
newspapers made fear about us like holy fuck russia's got this thing we got to get our own
we're gonna get our own version of this and i figured i wasn't real and everybody forgot about it hilarious yep
man i love things like that it's so funny to me it's like uh they figured it out no it's just
dirty oh oh how much did we spend trying to make this?
Like $40 billion.
The real interesting one is
metallic hydrogen. Ever heard of that?
No, that sounds neat.
No. That sounds neat.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's metallic hydrogen?
What makes it metallic?
I don't know.
Much people say, oh, it exists.
It exists on another planet.
Then we have it.
We don't.
The Russians had it.
Then they didn't.
I'm like, okay, fuck it.
I don't care.
Show it to me when it's real.
It's supposed to be a solid form of like rocket fuel so metallic hydrogen so it's like yeah
that's the idea wasn't the hydrogen one of the last like elements to be figured out like we
figured out it existed through some kind of weird light shit and looking at stars.
And then we're like, oh, there must be another one.
Yeah, some strange shit over here that we haven't seen before.
It leaves behind a line.
We need to know what the line is.
Which is kind of like how we figured out a lot of things.
We had like, you know, the guy who figured out the periodic tables.
Like, hey, it exists.
Oh, by the way, do you see all these empty spots?
Yeah, we don't know what that is yet, but we can fit that in there.
Huh? Yeah. It's infinitely expandable, too. Here, add these bits in. What's that for? No fucking clue.
And so began the great U.S. university rush to create new forms of materials that irradiated away in less than what was that? 50 minutes? Yeah.
It was a whole thing.
One of the universities, they had this
really cool story of where they created
this new material
that would irradiate away.
Because of course it changes
after a bit, because like Half-Life, right?
So they would need to pack
this shit in the back of the car and just like run through the fucking security gate with the car just to get it over to
the lab where they could actually prove, yes, this exists. Here we go. It's our thing. You know,
it was always a race. It was always a one-upsmanship between like other countries and
other universities. Like even inside of the US, you had like different universities that each
attempt at the same thing. And so they just created more and more of that stuff and added more and more
of this radioactive stuff to the periodic table.
That's why we have so much stuff down there.
If you ever looked at it, you go, what is this?
When did this happen? It's like, oh,
this was when they wanted to
do the computer run, but for
atoms and shit and radiation.
That's why we have
an element called
americium.
Oh, fun bit too, by by the way there was a German scientist
who then started discovering
a few more of those himself
and it was actually really
he was doing this at a very high rate
and it's like huh that's odd
and towards the end it got really difficult to prove
whether or not
that was actually true
and on the last one that he
tried to pass off as a new thing
it actually turned out that
that was entirely made up and then they looked
at everything else and even though the other
scientists who replicated his thing
replicated and changed things such
that it could actually exist
well all of those other things he also made
up. None of
it was real. The whole fucking way down.
So he just made that shit up, and a whole bunch of other scientists
just proved him right because they were smarter.
Isn't that hilarious?
So they used their intelligence to compensate for the deception,
and therefore made the deception seem real,
which allowed him to keep deceiving.
Isn't that fascinating?
Tale as old as time in the
scientific community
to be honest
especially archaeology shows up all the
time in there like Jesus
yeah
it's a double
double-sided thing there with the
national
interest in scientific
advancement
like sometimes the The national interest in scientific advancement.
Like, sometimes the competition inspires a whole bunch of creations, and other times it just kind of makes things shitty for everyone.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I completely stopped paying attention to this hockey game,
so I have no idea what was happening in it.
That shit is red.
Why?
Perforated colon
I think it's just
no different spices
Hawks are down three nothing Hmm.
Hawks are down 3-0.
Damn.
I still want to see a reaction video to some hockey shit from you.
Maybe. Maybe.
I just don't have much interest in sports.
I didn't either for my entire life
until I started watching hockey.
I was like, this is the best shit I've ever seen.
Hockey is great.
I've never watched it on television,
but in person it's really fucking fun.
I won't watch sports on television.
I think hockey is interesting
because it's one of the few games that I
can think of where it's easier to explain the
rules by just pointing out what you can't do.
The things you
can't do. Except sometimes you can, because
the refs are like, eh, fuck it.
It's basically
an unmanageable game.
That's what makes it so much fun.
It's just like, uh, is he allowed to do that?
Sure.
So he could just hit that guy in the face
while he was going for the puck.
Oh, okay.
That seems fair.
Hockey's basically UFC
with like breaks in between the fights
and no timer
and people have blades on their feet
yeah they have foot knives
as I call them
people chasing you with foot knives and sticks.
On ice, going about, I don't know,
somewhere between 20-25 miles per hour on average.
On ice, playing with a little round disc
that is very hard and nigh indestructible.
Although there was one time that somebody shot a puck at the net that split in two,
and it's really fun to watch everybody get real confused as to what just happened.
I think there should be a video game where that happens,
where you go to pass the puck and suddenly there's two pucks.
You go to pass the puck and suddenly there's two pucks.
I think to make sports more interesting,
we should get rid of the rules about steroids.
One of the most interesting
phenomenons I have encountered this year
is a game called Banana Ball,
where it's basically baseball,
but with backflips.
And dancing.
When the umpire calls somebody out before he does it,
he has to do a backflip.
And you get an extra out if you do a trick play.
It's very difficult to explain,
but it's a very interesting thing where they're pretty much like,
hey, baseball kind of sucks. Want to make it more interesting? How do we do that? Let's add pirates.
Like the Pittsburgh pirates? No, like dudes with parrots and eye patches.
What? Yeah. Why? I don't know. Could be fun. Let's make them do backflips everybody does backflips
why does everybody do backflips extra points what do points do well if you get more points than the
other team in an inning you score one and that's how the game works there's i think seven innings
or something and and like a normal baseball game where every time you score a run, that just adds
to your score. Each inning is based on which team scored more runs that inning and a whole
bunch of other rules, except for the last inning. In the last inning, any runs you score
gets scored. So that way at the end of the game, there's still excitement. The down team
can still win no matter how far behind they are.
But there's also a set time limit to it.
It can only play for two hours.
So if the game gets to two hours, it's fucking over.
Like, you don't get to keep playing.
All of these rule things are just something that I felt like baseball needed
because that sport is boring as fuck.
It's 90% watching a guy stand there
and nod at another fellow
before he tries to sneak a ball past another guy.
The addition of backflips
adds so much more to it.
I do believe it may actually be better
than my idea of just putting it on ice
because we put soccer on ice and then we hockey, and that's dope as shit.
I figured if we do it with other sports, I still say American football on ice would be badass.
I have no idea how that one would functionally work,
but something about that many huge dudes on ice skates just colliding into one another sounds amazing.
Lots of brain damage, too.
I actually don't like that sport at all because of the brain damage.
And the brain damage.
Yeah.
Also, why is it that we called football,
where there's no foot actually touching the ball?
There's just hands.
I don't know.
That's what I usually refer to as American handball.
The handball is called soccer, And the handball is called football.
Huh?
It irks me too.
I don't get it.
There is a minimal amount of kicking involved.
We kick the soccer ball with the foot
and we don't call that football, but we take the
like, huh? What is going on here?
Who created this? Is this an insult?
It's not even a fucking ball.
It's an egg. It's hand egg. It's not even an insult? It's not even a fucking ball. It's an egg.
It's hand egg.
It's not even an egg.
I don't know what the fuck that is.
It's like a stretched sphere.
Like a pointy sphere.
Like somebody just stretched it.
But grabbed it at the points.
The ones that don't exist but it now has one.
Yeah. It's like an oblate sphere just minus the oblate
and all of the stretch
this is actually
a thing I learned earlier this year
oblate spheroid
or oblate sphere
and oblong spheroid are two
very specific
terms in that oblate
spheroid is used specifically for planets and oblate spheroid is used specifically for planets.
And oblong a spheroid
is used for anything else.
I was like, okay.
That's how weird...
It's used interchangeably for the funniest.
Weird thing to be specific about science.
No, whenever a flat earther comes up to me
and says, the earth is flat, or the earth is not
round, it's like, yes, I agree, it's actually
an oblate spheroid, thanks for your interest, and they just
keep walking and they go, oh wait, what?
Yeah, it's like, you're correct.
Nobody is expecting
the oblate spheroid response, right?
Nobody is expecting that. That's a new bit.
Nobody knows how to deal with that.
It's one of my favorites.
It's like, you are correct. It is a little bit flat. It's a new bit. Nobody knows how to do it with that. It's one of my favorites. You are correct. It is a little bit flat.
It's a little squishy.
I should just say it's as flat as your mom.
That works too.
Bro, why?
What do you mean?
The world is as flat as your mom was last night.
Too bad she was doing reverse cowgirl.
Bruh.
I feel like when it's more implicit than explicit, it's funnier.
The explicit only happens when you scientifically discuss the explicit.
I love arguing with
flat earthers, though, man.
Some of my favorites.
It's like
every time they come up with something
different. My favorite was the one
where they do... This was at Mickey's
Diner in St. Paul.
The chef there was talking about how the stars are the souls of Nephilim.
This is at like 2 a.m. after I'd gotten off my domino shift,
and this dude just went off for like 35 minutes
about how the stars created, or the enclosure created by some
one of the gods from the Dead Sea Scrolls
from the Book of Judas that I
forget the name of. He's like
that dude took all of the souls
of the Nephilim and put them in the
night sky. I'm just like this is
awesome. This would make a
great anime.
This should be the lore for
an alternate universe.
This is exactly what's going on.
It's complete nonsense
shenanigans, but
boy, I love the creativity.
I just love the things they come to.
I really appreciate
the ones who are like, we don't understand how
gravity works. That is true.
We don't.
I have no idea how that proves the Earth is flat,
but I do understand that this is a fact that you have,
and I commend you for having at least one brought to the table.
Gotta bring something. At least that's an interesting one.
I love discussing gravity, and I've been like, what is gravity?
Why is gravity? Is it the electric pole
between electrons? No, we've proven it isn't.
Then what causes it? We don't fucking know.
Gravitons? Maybe.
All we know is that if there's a whole
bunch of shit in one place, things start going
a little different, and that's about the extent of it.
Yeah, we know
stuff likes other stuff.
That's about it. There's a whole bunch of this stuff in this place
and that makes that thing occur
that effect, it's like a cumulative thing
it's like how the orcs
it's like how the orcs from Warhammer 40k
if they focus on one orc make a super smart orc
but because a smart orc is smarter
it then is like a problem
and so they all become retarded again
but it's like if there's a whole bunch of orcs together
they actually have more power in their imagination.
Because you know how orcs in Warhammer 40k work, right?
They have like...
How was this again?
So the psychic frog people, millions of years ago,
came down to these fucking things,
and then decided to give them the ability to do this, right?
Let's say you paint something a certain way.
Then that thing painted in that certain way is going to go faster.
Why?
Because they believe it does.
If they think they can breathe in space, they can.
Why?
Because they believe they can.
That's their power.
It was given to them by the psychic frog people, as I remember.
Yes.
Psychic frog people arrived. G remember. Yes. Psychic Frog people arrived,
gave them a whole bunch of abilities,
sent them out into war to deal with the other gods.
They did. Then they just fucked off
and left the orcs behind
and now you can have that thing going on for yourself.
I'm going
through my first Warhammer
experience ever. I've been playing
Warhammer 40,000 Rogue
Trader, which is, like the game itself, it's very meh.
Yeah, I don't play the game.
I don't care about the game.
I care about the lore.
The lore fun.
Lore hilarious.
Everything else, not so much.
Even the lore doesn't have me that captivated.
It's something about the game mechanics that they have, and it has triggered
some form of nostalgia in me
because it uses a system
that is so similar to Fallout 2
and Arcanum of Steamworks
and Magic Obscura, which are probably
two of my favorite games of all time.
And I have yet, like,
it's my first encounter of an actual
modern implementation of them.
And it sparked a whole bunch of ideas for different game mechanics.
I started playing it this week and I already have about 55 hours put into it.
I'm just going through it like, well, how does this evolve over time?
And I just want to get through the fucking game so I can see how the mechanics play out.
It's a lot like Diablo 2.
It's like a turn-based Diablo 2, almost.
Which is how Fallout 2 worked.
I mean, it didn't have to work that way.
You could do it real-time or turn-based.
Turn-based was kind of the way to go.
Yeah. But, like,
I don't know. The amount
of detail in different characters,
like there's eight or so
different characters in the main story that you
can remove from your party at any given
point of time, and the amount of programming that
goes into that was something I always
appreciated in why Arcanum
of Steamworks and Magic Obscura is probably
my favorite game of all time.
It's because of the detailing
that goes into that and the amount
of narrative work that goes into it.
For example, in Arcanum,
if you play as an elf,
dwarves are fucking racist to you.
If you play as a half-elf,
then some elves are racist to you,
some aren't. Some humans are, some aren't. If you play as an og elf, then some elves are racist to you, some aren't. Some humans are, some aren't.
If you play as an ogre, everyone fucking hates you.
If your character has low intelligence, you talk like a fucking idiot.
If you have high charisma, you can sweet talk people into shit, and it changes the entire outcome of the game.
It's one of the only games I've ever...
As I've been playing through this Warhammer game, I've been doing it with extremely
high charisma the entire time
but it's actually fucking pointless to have
high charisma in that game for the most part.
One of the things I was really hoping to be a thing
because in Arcanum it has this really
fascinating mechanic where
the more charisma you have, the more
followers you can have so your main character
doesn't actually have to be strong
because you can have a party of people instead of having your main character be your main source and it changes
the entire outcome of the story based on that and i was thinking like going back to what we were
talking about with uh the resources available in games right now arcanum came out and i think
2001 2002 somewhere around there?
Back in the days before Windows
7 or Windows Vista even.
Like, this
the amount of shit that they
packed into this game, given its small
size and the hardware resources at the
time is just incredible.
The amount of replayability into
it is just
amazing. I've yet to see anything in the
modern age that takes advantage of everything that we have now like the ability to actually
streamline these things out i think that's because the bottleneck is really in human planning
planning out all of these divergent storylines becomes extremely untenable over time. So you need a lot of effort put into all of these different possibilities,
which Arcanum did in a way where I've yet to do a second playthrough with the War Thunder,
but I assume it's going to be something similar because it's the only game I've seen
where you can get rid of allies, or at least the large number of allies that are key to the story.
That's what increases the replayability of it.
But I have not seen that to the same extent
since the early 2000s.
I'm really excited to see on a second playthrough
if just getting rid of some people changes shit around
and how they handled that.
This has been a thing that I've been super interested in
ever since I learned about the visual novel game style,
which is basically a programmatic choose-your-own-adventure.
I was like, these things can all be combined together to make something special, I feel.
I have yet to see that come into manifestation in the world.
that come into manifestation in the world.
At this point, I'm kind of like, well,
there's some signs that this might be
where the industry is headed.
What was the name of that game?
Disco Elysium, I think, was kind of similar.
It was like this investigation game.
It had similar elements to it
where your actions would be dynamically thrown throughout this flowchart.
There's games like Fallout 4 which had this illusion
of choice, but if you actually programmatically look at it, it's nothing
like these older games. Basically, they hide
two dialogue options as if
it's 4 or 12, but they all have the same endpoint, doesn't actually
have that much variability on it, which is another route that people can take. But the actual
planning out of these large narrative systems where the story can play out tons of different
ways and it can evolve into an entirely different game is something that we have only
recently had the technology to do based on the amount of resources required but it doesn't feel
like anybody's really nailed down that the actual mechanics of it because of like you have to just
have the game do shit basically now something you could have ai do but at the same time
i feel like that would cheapen it like if you don't have all these different aspects coming
together in the right way it just makes it not interesting i guess be the way to put it and it's
like there's so many different matrices to. There's event situations where one character might not be there,
and that's simple enough to do.
You just pass off their lines to somebody else.
But the things that make it so interesting
is that with different character choices,
the entire outcome and plot of the game can change
to the point where the last 40 of the game is an entirely
different game depending on how you played the game up to that point that's something that i
personally have not seen much of in modern days i think does that align with you guys at all
not really i mean i don't really look into these things as much.
I'm a very simple person.
I don't really like log on to a game
to just, you know,
experience functions like that.
I just kind of want to do something
that's somewhat deterministic
and just have people be the randomizer.
Like actual people be the randomizer
because there's like determinism
in their personality and it's fun awesome well one game i have been wanting to play more of is uh
arc raiders you guys heard about this game yeah i i've heard about it a lot i don't think i'm
going to play it because it's very like mmorpg-ish kind of in a sense where you have to like go up
oh i mean that's that's not that's not an accurate representation you have to go outside you have to take down a bunch of like weird different things
you have to survive somehow you have to loot then you have to encounter other players i'm like okay
i'm done i've done enough i have a job i'm employed i don't have time for this like i'm not going to
sink my mental energy in this it's not happening like it's like it's like getting me to play
factorial it's like yeah sure i work in
manufacturing here go play factorial i'm like why would i go off of work to do what i already do
in a game what no i understand it if you don't if you don't work there and that's the thing you
want to experience 100 go for it like if me i say this and, oh, I work on this type of shit and I don't want to
do it, then it's like, oh yeah,
okay, there you go, you should probably play
that game because that kind of
tells you, okay, you don't want more of it.
That's the best argument
I have for someone to play the game. If you don't do
manufacturing and you want to know what it feels
like, kind of,
play it. It's actually good. I will say that much. I will say that much. I'm just not going to play it because I don't do manufacturing and you want to know what it feels like kind of play it it's actually good
i will say that much i will say that but i'm just not gonna play it because i don't want to
i already have problems why do i want more problems i want less problems not more
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