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The Conversation
Recorded: Sept. 21, 2025 Duration: 3:15:25Space Recording
Short Summary
In a lively discussion, participants explored the implications of new partnerships and funding initiatives in the tech and crypto sectors, particularly focusing on Trump's H-1B visa reforms and the anticipated launch of innovative aerospace technologies. These developments signal potential growth and investment opportunities within the blockchain space.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. Straight off the bat to say something funny, I don't think enough people think about skunks.
And if they do think about skunks, they think of them for all the strangest of reasons,
in more ways than two, one of which being smell and the other one
being a technology. So yeah, I just thought I'd throw that out there and if you don't
get that, don't worry about it. It's a defense joke, or more like a war joke. It's more like
a technology involved with all those. I'll give you a bit of a hint, it's called Skunk
Works. So yeah, we'll see what those guys are going to be dropping, because it's probably something
really interesting.
I'm looking forward to that.
As much as I usually view those companies as vaporware providers, I think that it could
be something fun at least, you know, shiny new toys so to speak.
Yeah, maybe it's a 72.
It could be really cool.
If it's a 72, that would be awesome.
Looking forward to that that love that plane
yeah well i love the 71 71's banger it's like really really cool it's an amazing feeder technology
you know what most jets are really but that one's like pretty special but yeah um kind of a we're
gonna we're gonna keep this going for think, at least two or three hours.
That's what it's going to be.
I started this about 30 minutes earlier than I normally start the conversation
because I just felt fresh about it.
I also recently had a subscribers-only space where I spoke about legacy
and what the present moment looks like
and how the present moment can be optimized to
actually become legacy in the future because many of us optimize our own existences for
various things and hardly are any of those things legacy.
Many of these also play into an understanding of loyalty and the practice of that and a
kind of follow through on it from various perspectives and the reasons behind why one has such a thing.
And so it's kind of like going through that in that space because I felt it was something that I really wanted to talk about,
especially given larger figures in the world and their legacy, be they in recent memory or even memory that
is hardly even around anymore, at which point we see an inflection of how civilization changes
philosophically to embrace a form of legacy that is different from the initial form that
was also very mimetic.
It was talking about mimetic zeros and eventually medic, you know, zeros and eventually like, you know, heroes in a space, you know, meme space is like this, this, this distribution of potential that is just largely attention based. really attention from yourself on a matter of things be be the natural processes which are of
god or processes set in motion by other people at which point it all just boils back down to
attention once again and so everything that is about legacy and anything that is about memory
is all about attention it's all about how does attention shape a meme and what is
the reasoning behind whatever that meme is, whatever that attention is, and what does
that boil down to at some point.
You know?
That is kind of like what you've got to think about when it comes to memes and attention,
right?
Because that feeds into what legacy is at some point.
Kind of like how you have networks on X as well, very similar.
For instance, affiliate badge networks are really funny.
There's this idea of labeling information, but also labeling the information generators,
which is what people are, which is why I have this really cool feature,
which is called affiliate badges from org accounts.
We have affiliate badges here as well.
I have one people here on the space do.
You know, this is from like the company that I have, which is Time Chain Consulting.
You know, consultants are a company that actually does things.
We just like, you know, tell you what to do.
We actually do the thing as well.
It just depends on like, you know, what we're doing.
But yeah, it's a really interesting thing.
But like the reason why we have affiliate badges is because we wanna kinda show a bit of a memetic network,
which I'm gonna be executing even harder on
in the coming weeks, just because it's fun.
I'm doing this all day for fun.
I think it was hilarious.
I had like a bunch of,
I had a bunch of money piled up from the X payouts.
And I decided, you know,
what would be a really cool way to do this is like to put the money back into X
where it came from and then see what happens.
And narrative engineering wise, it's been really fun.
We did like the vibe I bring to the function type of post,
which went pretty far.
And I really enjoyed that because it has a nice format,
a bunch of other people were bagging on it as well,
which is really cool because it just reached like a certain natural escape velocity not as
big as it would otherwise be but pretty good for like a thousand follower
account you know it's a very small number of people but if actualized
properly that number of people is a massive force right even here right now
we have approximately you know almost 300 people
and we're gonna have 300 people within the hour at least pretty sure of that
if that force were 100% aligned 100% on something it would be absolutely insane
like I wonder how many people here who are sitting and listening could give the
space a like right now for instance right like if every single one of you
you don't even have to quote post if you want to quote post that would be excellent
You know, it would amplify the space quite quite a great deal
So if you would like to quote post the space with the words join the conversation
You could do that
And if you don't want to do that because you have some sort of timeline curation thing you want to do
Which I understand at least give it a like right?
So let's see how many people could do that all at the same time
You know, there's not that many,
but that would be pretty cool.
So everybody go give that a like,
everybody go repost the space right now.
That would be absolutely excellent.
So more people can see that we are in fact live here
and the posting the space.
Done, epic.
Very nice.
30 minutes.
It's funny, somebody says,
I'm happy that it's starting earlier.
Yeah, we're starting it a fair bit earlier today.
I thought it was fun to do it.
See, there we go.
See the light counter going up massively.
Very nice.
Very good.
Good job, everybody.
Excellent.
Excellent work.
Keep doing that.
The more the merrier.
Also, do understand that the space is in fact recorded, and you can listen back to that at some other point just kind of like you know have it be
around yeah but we got interesting stuff we could talk about we got a whole bunch
of news events which are not even necessarily controversial but I think
are somewhat controversial in some ways one of which being the recent decision
by Trump to finally put into action the thing that he has somewhat promised
which is the whole gold card thing now I didn't think he was going to execute on the gold card thing the way that he did,
in that I thought that the gold card was going to be a special thing of its own,
but now we have more than a gold card, we have like a whole bunch of things.
So if somebody wanted to like, you know, it's all wrapped up into the H-1B program now,
which I did not see coming, to be honest.
To be honest, I didn't think that that's what was going to be the execution of it. So
basically what it is, is it makes it faster. You know, if you pay a shit ton of money, it makes it
faster. But another thing that he's introduced was to make it more expensive. So now everyone
who is H1B has to pay $100,000 a year. Now, many are thinking that that is really controversial, but I'm going to counter
and say I think that's an amazing idea. So here's the thing. If you are going to be importing high
skilled laborers, and that was like, so for those of you who may have missed it, which would be insane
if you did, but in case you have, you know, it happens. There was this great H-1B war of like 2024 to 2025, the latest month and the earliest month of both those years.
It was a war and there was a big thing going on and everybody had their own position.
And the main position that I defended and was mainly misinterpreted in was actually the defense that, yes, you should have like these types of programs so that people can come in who are high skilled laborers and actually do work right that was my positioning and it still
is my position to this day what people didn't understand with that is that i thought that the
system at the time was not just exploited but completely insufficient and misaligned with accomplishing exactly this
to bring in the most skilled workers. So the current change of things, as it would appear,
actually more aligns with what it is that my position was initially as well. Because I think
that if you wanted to come into that country, you know, and work there as a highly, highly skilled
laborer, then yeah, of course, the price tag would be worth it. You know, you know, and work there as a highly, highly skilled laborer,
then yeah, of course, the price tag would be worth it. You know, you want like your AI
engineer out of China, for instance, to come over and, you know, work on your company,
then that's going to cost you a bunch of money. Well, yeah, because it's also going to make you
a shit ton of money. And if it doesn't work, if it doesn't, if it doesn't work, then what are you
even doing? I mean, there are ways around this, you know, there are ways around this you know there are ways around
that you don't actually need to be in the US to do this but if you want to be in the US for that
and you want to go there then yeah you can do that now but there's a heavy price tag associated with
it and I think that is a very good barrier to entry. At the same time there's also other different
types of visas each one of those I believe are misaligned with their own goals as well and would need to be revamped in their own ways be they opt opt but one of the other things that is very interesting
is somebody who has actually got a ton of money it's very difficult for them to come in and it's
like sometimes easier for people who have like just no money at all to come in via channels that
are very questionable instead and this isn't a lot of developed countries this way,
which I find is very, very strange,
but it's just simply the way that it is.
But mainly, to kind of go back into the position
with what I was saying about the H1B thing
and about the Christmas war,
it had always been the position to bring in people
who are highly skilled.
So I see the controversy today as kind of like a resurgence of that,
like, you know, war that was like, you know, people beating dead horses so much that they
became zombie horses that then themselves had to be beaten to death as well. Because that was kind
of like, you know, this metaphor where you say, you know, there's a bunch of like horse, you know,
you're beating the dead horse. And in this case, they were beating it so hard, the kinetic energy
of how they were beating the horse was bringing the horse back to life for some reason, and then now
they had to put it down for the second time.
It's really a crass, this is a really crass joke to be saying right now, not gonna lie,
but I think it's hilarious, and I think everybody can understand that it's hilarious.
I'm just telling everybody to actually beat horses until they've died, you know, come
back to life again, that's not how that works, it's horrible, obviously.
I'm just saying with that thing that people always say, you know,
we could apply that and stretch the metaphor even further,
and then we, like, have all the psychedelics mushroom-type bullshit
all coming out of this, and then we, like, kind of reinsert that into the system,
and then we end up with zombie horses for some reason.
I'm not sure how that works, but that's just simply how it is,
simply how it is and we're just going to accept that. So, with that, we're going to move on.
and we're just going to accept that.
So, with that, we're going to move on.
Right now, I see, like, this resurgence again, for some reason. You know, zombie horse is back.
Or at least a few of them, not all of them. A few zombie horses are back. I'm just looking at this
going, what are we even fighting about, bro? What is the point of this? This is exactly what
everybody, like, really wanted, I guess. I mean, the most meritable position was bringing people who are actually skilled,
and the position that I thought was least meritable on both sides was,
oh, we should just bring everybody in. That's bullshit.
Oh, we can't bring anybody in, which is also bullshit.
So to meet in the middle on that, highly skilled is a great compromise for every side involved.
And that's exactly, I think, what they're going to be getting here. So to meet in the middle on that, highly skilled is a great compromise for every side involved.
And that's exactly, I think, what they're going to be getting here.
Even though the execution is literally not that you're the most highly skilled,
but that you're literally very expensive to bring in.
So now the filter actualizes to, well, who doesn't have the money to work on this thing here is not going to be able to work on this thing here locally.
So I think that's really interesting.
So yeah, I think this is great.
A lot of people are probably going to be very confused by this and me saying that,
but that was my position.
I don't understand why everybody misinterpreted it.
I never wanted that.
There's tons of people coming into any country for
that matter. You know, the same policy that is in my head about, you know, what would be really cool
in terms of like, you know, bringing talent into countries, that applies in every way. It's like,
hey, doesn't matter where country you're in, every country should have a policy where the people you
bring in are the very best of the best, right? Because if you want to supplement something in your country, it needs to be good.
It needs to reflect the values of that country in every capacity,
that it being, hey, we need to have a problem solved that exists here
and this person is skilled enough to do it,
but also that the cultural aspects of that person are aligned with that country.
And I think that's massively important. People understate that. It that it's like you know if you bring in somebody to a country
and they're going to be wildly benefiting off that country they should probably enter it like
represent the interests of that country right even me I'm not American and I don't live in America
and yet I work with American businesses and I love it because I know that that country
Grants insane benefits to those who work
Right, that's the thing. I even pay taxes. I'm not in America yet
I pay taxes to America because that's how it works and you do business there. I
Don't complain about it. I think it's dumb the type of stuff that you know taxes are spend on you know, obviously
It's a massive problem. You wouldn't believe the stuff that, you know,
my taxes have been used to pay for. You wouldn't believe. You know, that's kind of how it works out. And it's a funny joke that you kind of tell yourself to, like, to, like, you know,
laugh about what is otherwise a pretty shitty situation. But regardless, you know,
you ought to represent the interest of that country that is benefiting you.
You ought to represent that.
And largely, that's kind of how it's been with me.
That's why I looked at various things, even like manufacturing,
which is a huge goal of the U.S., to bring back manufacturing,
and said, man, if you continue at this current rate, it's never going to happen.
Which I still stand by, by the way.
I think that manufacturing itself is a very difficult thing
that the majority of people do not understand.
There's like, you know, people who go on the internet and go,
hey, well, I mean, it's just easy, just do things.
It's like, well, no one's ever just going to do things.
Like, have you actually ever worked in manufacturing
of anything that's like high level?
The higher level it is, the less likely it is to be possible
to actually execute on because it's that fucking difficult to do
and that expensive, you know?
I mean, think about this for instance.
If I wanted to have, if I was a business in the US
and there is a part with, that has like,
let's just say it's something that is relatively difficult
to manufacture a custom, which of course,
you know, prototyping, right?
Don't even get me started in mass production.
That's a totally different ballgame than prototyping.
Prototyping is easier than mass production
once you enter into the mass production thing.
That's where stuff gets even so much worse.
It's so fucking difficult.
I should know.
I work on that.
Let's say you have that part
and you manufacture it in China.
Now you have to bring it over to the US
and you're going to have to be paying tariffs on it.
Now tariffs, as we all know, are quite high for China, right? And you'd think,
oh, that's going to discourage the I'm going to use China for the manufacturing part thing, right?
You're wrong. It is not just more capital intensive, but also time intensive and mentally taxing to manufacture that part in the US.
So it's fucked on all fronts, right? Like you take something and even if you're not in China,
let's say you're in Taiwan and you walk past one of these machinist shops and you say, hey,
I have this part here. These are the dimensions. this is the steel that I want it to be made out of,
here's the precision that I want for it,
and then they make it for you with less hassle
and less of a price tag than the US.
And I don't understand exactly why that is,
but the level of competency there, it really has faded.
So, to bring over talent makes a lot of sense,
but there's some stuff that is very difficult to bring over
unless you have like an entire manufacturing process
that you can just literally build and put together
in about two years, which is possible
if the manufacturing process is optimized for mobility,
at which point you can literally like just take
what is a factory process from one place
and put it into another.
But so you will also have to do the same for people and the expenses that this
will incur, I believe in many extents far outweigh the
benefits you'll gain in terms of expenses.
If you actually go through with something like that, um,
actually an easy way to look at this as like solar, solar manufacturing,
solar panel manufacturing, you could definitely do that in the U S not. It's not that difficult to do. To set that shit up
though, and to have people, you know, come there and train
each other so that they actually work reliably, that's a totally different story.
Although that's a pretty low barrier to entry type of thing,
you could actually do that and then perhaps work on driving the price down.
By the way, the prices for these things are not just dependent on labor costs,
but also dependent on resource costs as well.
Because, again, there's not that much mining going on in the U.S.
And China has a lot of the resources because they're pretty smart when they do outreach.
Like in Australia, for instance, there's a ton of mining going on by Chinese companies,
and all of the resources mined out of the ground there go to these Chinese companies.
And the Australians actually see very little of the financial gain from what is coming
out of their ground, which is really fucked up, obviously.
But that's because they made shitty business deals, right?
You can kind of blame their government there for being massively incompetent, which is
of course what 99% of all bureaucrats are.
At the end of the day, you're a bureaucrat.
You live in a concrete jungle.
You don't really know how the world works,
because you've never worked in any of the places
that you are bureaucratizing.
You don't actually understand how the world works, which
then is shown via how the world works business deals, in which
you then eventually get fucked, you and all of your citizens.
Well, mainly the citizens.
You still have a paycheck,
but because you're funded by their taxes,
but there's gonna be less taxes and less money.
Generally how that works out.
So that's kind of like Australia's problem.
But yeah, a lot of the stuff,
there's like resources, not even out of Australia,
but out of various other countries, in Asia even,
they have a lot of resources,
and China's like building up stuff there, and they extract a shit ton of those resources and then
process them and resell them they don't just like use the resources themselves
they actually process them and that's really really interesting that's a
really big economy right because if you control that dude you control a lot of
the supply like you control a lot of the supply. Like you control a lot of the, the, the stuff that
makes other stuff. It's, it's the same way that Elon looks at things and goes, it's the machine
that makes the machine. And in a sense, you look at the stuff that makes machine. And then you have
that machine that makes other machine from the stuff that makes the other machines, making the
machines that make more of the stuff from the machines that make machines, right? Which is insane! And so the Chinese have kind of
like a monopoly on this to an extent, you know, because of their ability to spread out
almost like a kind of empire, right? And they didn't just have narrative empires, which
is what the US has as its power. Its primary power is war on information and the control of information,
financial systems, internet, all this stuff.
They have a lot of control over this,
even though they sometimes lack a lot of understanding
as to the foundation on which all of that is built,
because, you know, people just kind of forget about that.
You'd be surprised how much stuff still works in COBOL, for instance.
And hell, I don't hear anybody talk about COBOL.
I only ever hear people talk about, oh, hey,
we're going to just one-shot websites with React.
I'm like, that's not software development.
That's bullshit.
That does not exist.
That's vaporware.
That's not real.
That's fake and gay.
I'm sorry.
That's not how any of that works.
So you even have a weakness there when
it comes to narrative control.
But I think with narrative control, it's like, okay, cool.
Well, it's pretty cool. You have that. But now when you run out of stuff,
narrative becomes worthless, you know, like when push comes to shove,
the entertainment industry is worthless, right? Like, oh, hey, I'm running out of money.
You don't go to cinema anymore. Now you're like losing narrative control. Oh, hey, I don't have time anymore.
Well, I'm gonna like, you know,
disable 80% of all the social media apps on my phone,
and just maybe stick to one or none at all, right?
So now all of a sudden your information dominance is useless.
If anything, perhaps still you have power via law,
but if people even stop caring about that, and you have a lawlessness,
well, what good is your information
control system then? Same thing, same argument, right? Because it all boils down
to stuff and the attention on that stuff, right? Because everything is just power
shaped and moved by attention. Like people's attention is incredible and very powerful. There's stuff that is just remarkable.
But if we forget about that, then we go, okay, well now we just care about a very specific type
of attention. We don't care about the resource stuff that grabs attention, right? And that's
kind of like, you know, America's problem in many different ways because the making of stuff, the substantive, is now
just entirely information systems, right? Be they physical architectures for chips or the optimization
on how to use that, and even on that front they're losing. A great reminder of this would be the
software optimizations for NVIDIA's compute in which because of the way that China is sanctioned China only gets a
very specific type of NVIDIA chip that is effectively nerfed they do get access
to NVIDIA's chips you know they just get access to nerfed versions of those
chips but because they're so good at optimizing the software they actually
end up making these chips more performant
than the non-NRFed
chips.
It's amazing.
So now...
Not anymore, they don't.
They
blocked the sale.
They made NVIDIA chips illegal
in China this week, I believe.
Nice.
This should be interesting.
Wait, who made the chips illegal again?
Chinese government.
Nice.
Great play.
Push development of their own AI chips.
That's a great play.
We'll see how successful they are in this.
This could either be like a massive shot in the foot,
or a really, really good,
hey, guys, I'm going to force you to make this thing now.
There's probably still going to be concessions made,
but I think they're trying to force a very specific thing.
I mean, they don't have bad chips.
I mean, they have chips that are pretty imprecise.
I mean, their best chips, I think at the moment,
are seven nanometer chips.
And TSMC's, actually the conventional chips
that are Blackwell GPUs, anywhere between three and four,
but most commonly four nanometers.
So of course, a bit more advanced, a fair bit, right?
And then of course, the most advanced of TSMC's chip,
which aren't really, like these aren't really being used right now because they're
too expensive to make those are two nanometers right so the most advanced
that is sitting in a lot of devices such as your mobile phones if you're using
Apple or even even if you use something like a Mac mini or a Mac studio any of
these they will contain three nanometer chips.
Whereas other mobile phones are just like,
ones with the, you know, like ROG, what they make,
their phones, they have like four nanometer chips, right?
So they're actually like on par by precision
with like the Blackwell GPUs, but not by power, obviously,
because architecture, because it still changes things.
And you know what's supposed to be run on them.
It's still pretty good, though.
I have one of those phones, and it feels like using an iPhone.
It's like what Android used to feel like.
Good battery life, really nice, works well,
doesn't crash most of the time.
This is good, right?
Pretty decent startup time.
But yeah, China has 7 nanometer chips.
Let me see if they've done that.
Alright. Let's have a look here.
Because I have to double check that.
Oh fuck, they got 5 nanometers.
Okay.
Never mind, scratch that, they have 5 nanometers.
That's pretty good.
Damn.
It's okay, Snapdragon has 3 as well.
So they've all gone up a generation.
Yeah.
Not that it matters, the nanometers are going to be pointless in a generation. Yeah. Not that it matters.
The nanometers are going to be pointless in a couple generations anyway.
Yes, but it's still pretty damn good.
I mean, 5 is really fucking good.
What are they using here?
Oh, they're using DUV.
Nice.
That's excellent.
Because that's our alternative to EUV, which is what's being used, what TSMC is using.
EUV, by the way, is like from these machines that ASML makes that America owns technically.
So it's like it's a European company whose entire existence is based on the US,
but the Europeans still think it's like European company, which is like 80% incorrect as a take for an argumentation of any kind, which is also why the technology sanctioned in various countries can't have it, China included.
And so they come up with their own type of technology to kind of counter that.
But yeah, I'm impressed by the fact that China has five nanometers now.
That is really, really cool
good on them, man, good on them
why do you find that impressive is my question
because the prior was like 7 nanometers, which was not that long ago
I mean, yeah, but MOSFET released their 5 nanometer
processing system like, I don't know, 2-3 years ago
it didn't take that long to get up to manufacturing point on that one true but it's china with their own technology that's the thing
that i like about this and these are pretty they're using uh chips that have been optimized
over decades which is pretty cool so that's why i'm impressed by what they're doing there
is it the best in the world arguably notably not, right? But is it still pretty damn impressive?
Yes. And does it like give them a vector for independence from Western technology? Yes.
And that's what matters. That's what I think is really relevant. Not speaking for or against
it, I'm just saying that that's what is impressive to me about this you know i like to see success
i like to see success too i just think they could do better yeah yeah absolutely but then again chip manufacturing is very difficult especially at scale which is what the make or break part of it is
is what the make or break part of it is.
I feel like Korea did a much more impressive job.
Like who?
Samsung.
On what front?
Like, they got all the way down to 3 nanometers without any American intervention in a much
shorter period of time than China did.
Well, their chips do kind of suck ass
at everything other than memory.
That's debatable.
That's very debatable.
Excellent, though, yeah.
I will debate that if I have more information.
We'll make that as next week's segment, right?
We'll do that as next week's segment, I think,
because I'll need to read up a little bit on that
because, as I've just seen,
my information is just a wee bit outdated, so I have to like re-update that yeah it moves fast
doesn't it yeah yeah i mean it's good it's excellent shiny new toys eh
i think you can get outdated in a quarter in a matter of a week. It's nuts how quick technology moves.
Yeah, pretty much.
Ooh, hang on.
Goodness me.
Sorry, I'm still having a bit of late-stage effects of a bit of a sickness that I had about a week ago,
which really impacted my energy, I think.
I mean, I would say that last week's conversation
wasn't the best by any metric.
I think this week's conversation is way, way better.
Also kind of like, you know,
because I'm more focused on this, I'm more locked in.
Also, I'm taking a bit of methylene blue.
That's really good.
It's been working out.
Taking back a daily dose of like, you know,
five droppers a day, right?
It's so good.
Which is consistent with the amount of body mass that i have um i was like layering into it slowly just to like see what
the effects are going to be because i don't want to fuck myself obviously um so now i just basically
drink that at the end of the day every time when i'm like doing live streaming so yeah and i feel
pretty great to be honest like i feel really really good i feel very locked in i'm not sure
if that's shown in any way but i do do feel pretty locked in. It's really epic.
It is shown. Did you do the yoga?
Not really. I just kind of listened in.
I figured.
The music was a little distracting, I think. I think doing it without music makes more sense.
The music didn't work this time.
Yeah. But I think maybe do it without music entirely.
But I think maybe do it without music entirely.
I had a yoga session when I was...
There was this guy who's kind of an international.
It's really funny.
I'm not going to say too much about who he is.
But this guy did a private yoga session for me and my wife.
And it was more like just breathing exercises.
There was new music.
If anything, we used the natural,
like we woke up really early. We woke up at 4am, crack of dawn, went there to the beach,
sat there, did the whole meditation thing until like five, or like it was a seven. No,
it was five, six. And then it was like a really cool experience. No music, no nothing. So I would
highly recommend doing just like no music at all. But you guys did a bunch of breath work?
Yes, we did.
Yeah.
Okay, cool.
We can, I can do that.
It's just some people are like not into breath work, but we can do that next week or on Monday.
Yeah.
But in general, I think like there's no need for having music.
The rhythm of the body works at different ways.
Music is extremely subjective, I think, which is where you mess with on the identities of
people subconsciously, I think, because everybody's taste is a little bit different.
But maybe that's just me because I'm very weird.
People listen to...
You have playlists on what I would listen to
and you kind of see there's a very specific
taste here that just
comes through.
No, completely.
You can check out my Spotify.
I know, I've got your Spotify now.
It's not that deep, just listen to meditative music. No, I'm not going to listen to meditative music.
I need to listen to stuff that actually resonates with me.
I don't like listening to what is effectively a
formless thing. It needs to be art. Music to me is like a thing
that I genuinely don't like noise.
Anything that isn't maximally form is noise to me.
What if we did a Hans Zimmer yoga?
No, no, way too distracting.
That's more about Hans Zimmer and less of that.
It's way too intense.
Yes.
Hans Zimmer and all those soundtracks actually have a playlist of soundtracks,
so if you listen through all of them, it like does a very specific thing to you.
You can like sit there and you listen to it.
And it just kind of like shapes things.
It's really cool.
We'll like start you out with like Superman's flight.
Then we'll put you through like the Martian suite.
Then we have like, you know, two or three really cool tracks from Matrix.
And it will like throw you back into reality.
Actually, before we do Matrix, there's actually um hums zimmer's electro that's
the live performance which was really freaking cool and then we're gonna like throw you in back
into the loop with uh hereditary's like reborn right if anybody's ever listened to that it's
really really cool it's very biblical like messianic it's like really freaking epic you
should definitely listen to it i have a whole playlist for that blize can you get me the uh
soundtracks playlist from my Spotify account?
Yeah, sure. Yeah, I'll get there.
And I link that.
Have you listened to his
You're So Cool from True Romance?
No, I haven't.
I'll send you that one. It's good.
You never listened to the Dune one?
Nope. Nope.
I'll have to, like, first.
I haven't even watched those movies. I need to still watch those. You need to watch True Romance. Nope. Nope. I'll have to like first. I haven't even watched those movies. I need to still
watch those. Oh, that's fine. You need to watch
True Romance. It's amazing.
No, I'm not watching anything like that.
Oh my god.
I detest
love story movies. I detest all of them.
It's not a love story. It's with Christian Slater
in particular. It's not a love story.
It's like an action film.
Mmm, okay. It's not a love story. It's like an action film. Okay.
It's not a love story.
I'll consider it.
It's like an action love story with murder and guns.
It's different.
I'll consider it.
I'll have a look at it.
I'm not making any promises because I hate love stories.
I hate it so much.
There's such annoying nonsense that destroys the brain.
No, it's not about story.
Anybody who's like, never heard of my controversial opinions on rom-coms and everything like that?
I think that if we were to take all those things, like rom-coms and all those weird love story movies and all that shit,
if we took that and deleted it from reality, I think humanity would progress by at least you know two orders of magnitude faster than it's
currently progressing we'll have like less social issues and and all that stuff because it's just
bullshit right it's like the writer is barely disguised fetish really it's what that is
wait this is insane say that again it's not insane at all if we had if we had no love if you had like
none of these like weird rom-coms and shit.
I mean, I think that's kind of true.
Real love stories are reality.
The rom-coms are just so...
They take people away from actually being productive.
Yes.
Pretty much anything that mentions the words
true love should be set on fire
immediately.
Yep, pretty much.
It's a plague upon this earth.
I could not agree more.
And romance novels. Fuck those things too.
We should use those as
we can't even use those as wallpapers or anything
to wipe ourselves with. We just straight up put it in the
like just, no, no.
Just don't even, don't insult the tree
by printing such
things, such scribbles on that paper. Don't do it. Okay, don't insult the tree by printing such things, such scribbles on that paper.
Don't do it.
Don't insult the tree.
The tree is beautiful.
Do not insult the tree.
I love trees.
I find this extremely disrespectful.
I'm offended on behalf of the trees that people put their love story scribbles on that stuff via rom-coms and shit.
I'm offended on behalf of the trees.
I'm going to make a whole association for that.
It's trees against romance.
This actually sounds good.
Holy shit.
Man, I've got to be careful.
I've got to be careful.
I may accidentally start a little splinter movement.
You never know.
It can happen. It's not out of the question.
Adrian, does Taylor Swift cause a more net positive or net negative impact on you?
Net negative by and large.
Negative, for sure.
All that money should have gone to something that's actually relevant and actually would have furthered things.
I don't have anything personal against Taylorlor swift i just think that the music
is ass and the the money could have been put towards more productive things in the world
personally not judging necessarily the people i'm just saying that that's what it is and you know if
you if you kind of start chimping out on that just really proves my point honestly
on that just really proves my point.
Honestly.
You won't hear me
chimp out on expenses of anything
unless I'm chipping out on other expenses.
No, I have not and I will not.
You're missing out.
Vera, have you?
Yes, yes I have.
She's an amazing musician.
Oh god, yeah.
No, she's actually a very, very
good musician.
What have you listened to?
I don't know. I've just randomly
played her discography several times.
Her earlier albums are kind
of ass, but after
the first two or three,
she has some real good songs.
She should have just stuck with country
music.
Now she's probably country, right? She has some real good songs. She should have stuck with country music. Well, now it's just pop.
Yeah, she should have just stuck playing country, to be honest.
The world would have been a better place.
She used to.
She was a country singer.
Yeah, but her country songs are ass.
Yes.
What is it?
Her country songs aren't great.
I'm not disagreeing.
I'm just saying that should have been the end of that, to be honest. Okay, we can move on from Taylor Swift. Like, yeah, her country songs aren't great. I'm not disagreeing. I'm just saying that should have been like the end of that, to be honest.
Okay, we can move on from Taylor Swift.
Really? Yeah, yeah. That's nonsense.
Anyways, back to something that's actually relevant.
Hey, Preston, what's up?
Hey, what's going on? How you doing?
What brings you by today?
We're just hanging out in New York.
It's my wife and I were having our first anniversary.
And I said, hey, look, Adrienne's doing a space. And she's like, go hang out with your boyfriend.
Speaking of New York, did you hear the sound just like 20 minutes ago? That sounded like an invasion?
That's just average. Anyways, so Prest's the how's the whole uk stuff going
yeah it's pretty good actually um you know we've uh you know so i don't know if you guys know the
general background here but i uh i represent 4chan now and kiwi farms uh which are two and
also dab and also a uh site that uh that allows people to talk about
killing themselves and christ well but you know all of those sites were targeted by the uk government
for uh for enforcement under the online safety act and they're all engaged in perfectly lawful
speech and conduct under the first amendment uh and no one was willing to defend them. So basically, I stepped forward,
decided to represent them pro bono, all of them.
And part of that was filing a lawsuit against Ofcom,
which is the UK's communications regulator
in the District of Columbia.
They were served with that lawsuit on Wednesday afternoon
at the same time as President Trump
was meeting with the king at Windsor Castle. Totally not coincidental, totally accidental that we did that. Definitely
not deliberate. And yeah, and so it's been an interesting little ride. I've gotten to speak
with some really interesting people from around the world that have had some censorship problems
of various types, companies that were targeted by the Irish government, world that have had some you know censorship problems of various types companies
that were targeted by the irish government companies that have been targeted by the indian
government we've been feeding all of that information uh to the white house and to the
house of representatives house judiciary committee and yeah it's a fun little you know night and
weekends project where you know we're just sticking up you know it's free speech is one
of those funny businesses where you have to defend scoundrels right you have to defend people who and companies and forums
where people say controversial things because you know terrible policies you know go after terrible
speech uh and so yeah it's been it's been really interesting i haven't gotten too many death threats
i think the sort of death threat to retweet ratio is about 5,000 to 1 at this
point, which is generally speaking pretty good. I've only had a couple of hacking and phishing
attempts. Those have been fun. And yeah, so a couple of death threats. And I'm not going back
to the UK for a little while. But it's been a hoot. It's been really fun. And it gives my life
meaning. So yeah, that's what I've been up to. That's been really fun. And, you know, it's been, it gives my life meaning. So yeah,
that's what I've been up to. That's excellent. I think like the interesting thing about defending
free speech like that is maybe one day, whatever these scoundrel, scoundrelist opinions are,
are just normalcy, right? Because I mean, we've seen in a lot of cases where a entire society
can move in one very, very specific abnormal direction,
and then all of a sudden anything that was initially considered normal, which truly is
meritably normal, is now seen as something that a scoundrel is to say, right? You know,
various facts about the world, which, oh my God, you know, now that you say that, your
year is supposed to be canceled, like, you know, 20 years later, where it's like, hey,
I've said something, you know, at the time time completely normal, right? But now that we've moved very, very far from that normal, now viewing that
looks a little different and could actually be taken, so then people take that and then
they cancel you 20 years later after saying it in some form or something like that. It
could be anything, really. It could be something totally harmless, even today, since there's
a bit of a shift back into the direction of normalcy. Not entirely, but, you know, there is a pretty decent observable shift.
Now you kind of like look at that and go, well, that was normal the whole time.
Why was that a big deal?
Why was that a big deal?
Right.
Which also kind of coincides with, you know, people getting unemployed because of their
absolutely, to put it lightly, distasteful, you know, comments on someone's death, you know,
that being Charlie Kirk, and a lot of people going, oh, hey, wow, why are these people getting fired
now? I thought that was, like, not okay. Well, actually, that is okay, but I guess if it's,
like, not okay, then why have you been doing it for people that have expressed normal opinions
20 years ago, and, you know now you cancel them in the present day because
of that. And now you're concerned about something that you've been doing for ages based on literally
non-issues when somebody says, oh, wow, this guy's like super, super violent. This is very
dangerous for our work environment. We should probably remove this person. Damn, have you
seen what they think? You know, stuff like that. It's really interesting whether or not
that's like, that's a totally different argument even.
For me, I think it's the thing about defending the clients, right, and defending the forums where virtually anything can be said is that what you're really defending and you're really protecting is the ability of the marketplace of ideas and individuals to seek truth, right, in any way that they see fit. And generally speaking, when you have coercive force being applied to, you know, speakers
in order to silence them, there's generally a reason which is political, right, that motivates
that.
So like governments cracking down on you would be like, let's say, instead of, you know,
you saying something that is, you know, obviously fucked up in a work environment and then being
removed from that work environment
because he would have otherwise posed a threat to it
and its security, if a government were to say,
hey, that person and what they're saying
be that totally unactionable things,
just a specific viewpoint, we're gonna make sure
that that guy has no way to live freely, right?
But cracking down on that, throwing them in jail,
like say for instance, you shared a meme. In the case of the UK, you know, people have like, I think it's about 12,000
people that have been thrown in jail for like, you know, sharing memes online, right? So things
like that, of course, are very, very dangerous. Yeah, so the provision you're referring to is
Section 127 of the Communications Act 2003, which is a very specific online offense, which refers
to grossly offensive speech. And, you know, what is offensive versus what is grossly offensive? It's very
difficult to sort of establish a bright line principle for, you know, what falls on the right
side of the line and what doesn't. So that law has been abused time and again. And that's why
Graham Linehan was arrested at Heathrow recently when he was passing through.
I mean, generally speaking, when someone's trying to silence you from saying something,
it means that there's a reason related to the exercise of power in relation to which
that speech is inconvenient.
And so in the workplace, right, you can voice your opinions about various things.
And if you voice your opinions in a way that is disruptive to the imperative of the organization, right, either because it makes other employees feel,
you know, feel bad or feel unsafe, or it's contrary to management, you know, you're going
to get shit canned. In the case of the state, it's generally speech which challenges power.
So a lot of the stuff about gender ideology, for example, you know, in the UK, right, it is a crime to say things that are true.
Because what happens is you say something that's true.
You say it in slightly coarse terms about gender ideology in particular.
And what will happen to you is you'll have a half a dozen constables show up at your door at four in the morning and arrest you.
Because someone complains and they've got the law, right? And the law says offensive speech is outlawed
and someone who is transgender was offended by that speech.
And so we tend to see that it is power, right?
That gets most offended.
And that's where you tend to see these laws applied,
which is where power wants them applied, right?
And currently power in the United Kingdom,
you know, the vibe shift hasn't happened there yet, right?
I was back there in June
and they had progress pride flags flying off the bows of the commuter
catamarans that go up and down the Thames, like five by eight enormous, you know, enormous
woke flags flying from state infrastructure.
And like it was like, I don't know, Reich's Marshal Goering's car with the little flags
on the front.
So it's very much something which, you know, from my perspective,
I don't care who it is. Like I know currently the US government is about to haul Reddit and Blue
Sky and Twitch and Discord, you know, in front of Congress, right? And I haven't gotten a phone
call from any of them. But if I did, I'd turn around and I'd represent them, right? Because
this is the same kind of thing that you saw back in 2020 and 2021, where, for example, Parler was targeted for deplatforming
after January 6th. I was Parler's lawyer. They actually fired me the day before January 6th,
and then I was rehired 48 hours later after they fired their CEO in order to deal with the fallout,
which wasn't ideal. You saw Gab, for example. There were various right-wing figures that were
hauled before the joint committee on the January 6th attack on the Capitol who were dragged before the committee, not because they'd done anything wrong, but because they had the wrong opinions about something that happened.
But like if you have someone with guns trying to say, we are going to use these guns, we're going to use violent, coercive force on you because you are seeking the truth and you're not hurting anybody.
You know, to me, that's just like that's the line. Right. And so even though you had these very controversial companies and like representing them, I'm under no illusions about what representing those companies means for me.
them. I'm under no illusions about what representing those companies means for me.
If I were to fly back to the United Kingdom tomorrow, I'm very concerned that if I were
to do that, I'd be arrested the moment I got off the plane at Heathrow, to be honest with you.
So it is essentially, right, that there are serious professional consequences for doing this
and personal consequences, right? The death threats are not something that usually happen
on a day-to-day basis. I've gotten a couple of them. I'm not too worried about them,
but it's something that happens. So essentially, when that line is crossed, it's like I am compelled
to do something about it and step into the breach. I'm very fortunate that I have co-counsel on the
case, a fellow named Ron Coleman, who argued Mattel versus Tam, which was the case
that established that hate speech is lawful in the United States under the First Amendment.
And he's my co-counsel. And without him, really, I couldn't do this by myself.
And, you know, it's the two, we went out, and it's interesting when you finally do it, right,
you go and take this really like high profile free speech thing. You say, okay, cool. This is it.
This is the line.
You know, we've talked to tech companies.
We've told them, listen, we're defending the perimeter
for the entire American tech industry.
We are going to save you a trillion dollars
of regulatory overhead.
Like, do you want to help?
And they're like, good luck.
We'll see how you do.
And that's fine.
Like, because we're not doing this.
If you had to, like, do you have any data
on which of the actions taken, the legal actions taken against whatever
is grossly offensive speech was actually just people voicing their opinions on the behavior
of all those many immigrants that have basically overrun the UK?
Would you say that's more than the gender stuff or less than the gender stuff?
Because I think that that would be more than the gender stuff because that's an actual issue, right?
Well, I think if you look at the Southport, so the Southport arrests, I think, would be a pretty good proxy for proportions of how much of that speech relates to immigration.
I think after Southport, they made something like 3,000 arrests principally for social media speech.
Some of that right was
unquestionably on the wrong side of the line so if you go and you say hey come
in there were some guys who were tweeting about stuff and they said okay
hey let's yeah everybody go meet at this place at this time and what we're going
to do is we're gonna go you know throw bottles at the police like if you do
that okay that's a problem you know in the United States that would be a
problem for example however if you there's a Lucy, that's a problem. In the United States, that would be a problem, for example.
However, if you, there's the Lucy Connelly type cases.
It's hard to get information,
like really good information on much of this because most of the defendants pled out
and most of the cases were not covered by the press.
And the only cases that were covered by the press
in a public fashion were the most outrageous ones.
So I suspect, you know, if you got 3,000 cases out of the Southport arrests, you're probably looking at, and that was from August 2024, I'd probably say probably 25 to 30% of them, just ballpark, were probably on the wrong side of the line.
But I'd say that a good, you know, 50, 60, 70% would, in the United States at least, would have been on the right side of the line but i'd say that a good you know 50 60 70 percent uh would in the united states at
least would have been on the right side of the line one of the most prominent arrests was a guy
named ricky jones uh and he was a labor counselor i think he still is a labor counselor in walthamstow
which is one of the boroughs of london and he said you know we have to go and there was a there was
a meme basically everyone thought that there was going to be some massive like right-wing protest and so all of these left-wing protesters turned out right and
there were no right-wing protesters anywhere to be seen so they were just kind of milling about
and doing their own thing in nodding hill um you'd have to be insane i i hasten to add you would have
to be completely insane to try to run a right-wing protest in nodding hill you'd get run out of there
so fast and make your head spin um so all these left-wingers in Notting Hill. You'd get run out of there so fast, it'd make your head spin.
So all these left-wingers show up,
and Ricky Jones, being a politician,
draws a line across his throat and said,
we need to go and get those right-wing protesters.
We need to slit their throats, is what he said.
And he was arrested for, I believe,
it wasn't like a public order offense,
but it was something very specific.
I think they went for the,
they overcharged him, basically, and said it was specific incitement to go and engage in unlawful activity, but there was nobody there, right? Against which
he could have been violent because there was no counter protest. It was just his buddies.
So in the United States, we would have looked at that and said, okay, like that's on the right
side of the line because it does, it fails the imminent lawless action test. But in the UK, they said that's on the wrong side of the line.
And under the Public Order Act, it would have been.
But for what they charged him with, it wasn't.
They overcharged him.
So, you know, I think there's, I would say 50, 60, 70% of the speech that is uttered in, you know, and does result in a criminal conviction is the kind of speech which would, which is undoubtedly unlawful in the UK, right, but would be lawful in the United States. And so one thing
that we're trying to do now, there are a couple of people who are focusing on this in the United
Kingdom. Nigel Farage, right, is one of these people. Toby Young is another person. He's
apolitical. He sits in the House of Lords. I believe he's a Tory peer and runs a group called
the Free Speech Union. And, you know, I'm one of them. There's a group of young guys called the Restorationist
Institute who are really, they're more on the, I can't remember what Tommy Robinson's party is,
but like they're more aligned with that kind of point of view than a reform point of view,
although they kind of, you know, they just hang out in the right. And there are new proposals
coming out now all the time, right, for how we can fix the problem and kind of bring the UK back to like 1996,
right, is I think where most people would be happy with. So my idea is, you know, if you talk to Toby
Young, he's very traditional. He thinks that what we need to do is get the UK to the position it was
in in 1996. And we can do this by trimming the, you know, tending to the
common law like a garden and just pulling up some of the weeds of the bad laws and reforming some
things. He's probably right, right, to be honest with you. And that's probably politically the
most palatable solution. But I don't know whether the institutions are so corrupt that you need
something stronger. My position is, you know, do what Toby wants, but also create a rule which is
similar to the First Amendment.
And then you've got the restorationist guys who are like, listen, it's totally borked. We need complete constitutional overhaul to the point where you effectively abolish this doctrine known
as parliamentary supremacy, which is the parliament can't bind itself and therefore has unlimited power.
And they need to do away with that. So there are a couple of different approaches. It's really fascinating, you know, in terms of where I want to, I would like my
proposal to win, right? Obviously, because the objective is to have, you know, on my tombstone,
I want them to say he was the James Madison of a particular country. And because that's like,
if you do that, you win, right? You win all the points. And then in the afterlife, you get,
you get extra, I don't know, extra donuts or something um but yeah it's fascinating i don't know like whatever it's it's it's legacy
right leaving something behind and so it's a fascinating time in the uk because i think there's
a really given where reform is polling in particular i think there's a like a not not only a non-zero
prospect but i'd say it's like two chances in three
that the United Kingdom, if reform gets in,
that they have a First Amendment style rule
within six months, right,
of the general election taking place.
So it's really interesting, it's really cool.
And I think that, you know,
a lot of people think the UK is hopeless,
but I actually take now the,
and I thought so a year ago,
I said, it's totally hopeless. There's no way.
But now it's, I hold a very different view.
I'm actually quite optimistic.
Nice.
That is pretty cool.
On the stuff that's in the US, really, really, really interesting scenario was like right
after, you know, what happened with Charlie Kirk happened,
we had like a space and one of the first things that I tried to do was, okay, there's a lot of people that are so very angry about this, obviously and rightfully so. Let's see if we can bring more
peace to this and see if we can make more of a logical argument for anything that we're talking
about. If we wanted to like, you know, have a bit of a conversation between whatever an ideal is of something that is on the left or
whatever ideal is that is something on the right, let's see if we can have an actual good discussion
about these things instead of immediately going to violence and going, hey, we need violent
responses now, in which I literally made the distinction of, okay, well, I mean, there's two
different types of violence. There's rational violence, and then there's irrational violence. Irrational violence
is like going out there and just perpetrating acts of violence on people for literally no reason
whatsoever. And then rational violence would be something like a stop oil protester blocking off
the economy in the street and me going out there and breaking a few of his bones. That's like very
rational violence, right?
So now we've got to look at that.
Okay, so we have two different types of violence.
Let's assume one of yours is like, you know, a take that is rational violence.
Is it actually something that is fitting within the current context, depending on what has
happened, right?
And then we look at that within the context of speech, and then all of a sudden, everyone's
like, hmm, damn, we just hate each other's ideas.
This is an interesting thing that I found, you know, like there's a, there's a, even a clip that, you know,
Blythe took out where I said, basically it's like Pokemon Toxoplasmicondii, like it's my
Toxoplasmosis versus yours, really. And we don't actually hate each other for, for who we are as
people, but what our ideas are, which by the way, I think is also one of the only reasons why we have any problematic
information-based problems, right? Like say cultural differences. You know, you could
literally be a person and it doesn't matter what you look like, but if you have a culture
that is very destructive, then all of a sudden there's a problem with that type of person
because there's say a particular appearance trait that is associated with them and that
we're going to associate, you know, that appearance with everybody else being of that specific destructive
culture right and I think with speech here we're seeing the same thing where in the UK it's like
hey we have a very specific set of ideas that we want to have be protected and circulated and none
of those are anything that is constructive and then you have a inevitable conflict between people at which point we hate each other for ideas and not actually for anything
that's truly meritable. Like you know say for instance if you were to perpetrate an act of
violence an act of irrational senseless violence on somebody if you're then hated for that that
is perfectly meritable like that response is a very rational response. However if you hate somebody
for their ideas of things that literally will do nothing,
well, that's crazy, right? Like even to the point of then perpetrating an act of violence, like say
shooting somebody, that is insane, isn't it? So I wonder how long it is going to take until
a very large swath of people realize that the ones who peddle ideas that are not meritable and like
to enforce them by law so that merit cannot
stand against those ideas i wonder how long it's going to take until that becomes a thing of the
past and if that had ever become a thing of the past at any other point in human history right
in my circles i saw a good a good comment on this the other day. You know, as I'll just start by, you know,
my ideas about civil disobedience,
there's a great essay on this called Anarchist Calisthenics.
And, you know, the guy who wrote it,
I can't remember his name off the top of my head,
but he was living in Germany and he was American
and he was just so like stunned by the scale
to which Germans like to obey rules
and particularly like crossing the particular, like crossing the
street, like crossing the street against the light is like totally, totally taboo. Whereas,
of course, you're in New York City, it's anarchy. And he described a concept known as anarchist
calisthenics. And he said, you should try to break a small rule, right, every day, right,
try to break one little rule, because one day, right, justice and morality are going to call on you to break a big one,
right? And if you're not in shape, you're not going to be ready. And I think that's, you know,
there are limits to what, you know, in any, as a lawyer, of course, like your training is,
what the law is goes, right? And then what happens is you have a situation like the one that I'm in,
right? I'm dual qualified in England and the United States. The two speech regimes don't agree with each other.
And in fact, one regime is trying to impose itself on the other regime. And I had to make a
call, like, which regime am I going to be loyal to? And I said, okay, well,
you know, most recent oath was to the constitution. So it's that one and not, you know, not the
English one that that's the set of laws I have to protect. And so sometimes you have to make those choices between those rules as a general rule right when it comes to violence i have a
i think it's very taboo i think it's very very bad to do that and i i just i classify that as
property damage or injury to the person right so there's a difference between civil disobedience
sitting in the street and saying okay cool i'm going to get arrested and carried away
for something which is a non-violent, even though you could make the argument that it is a violence
offense, for example, like in a kidnapping context, right, if you're blocking a road,
but like if you're hitting someone, if you're hurting someone, if you're shooting someone,
that's like a really, really big problem, right? And I, you know, I don't know when the circumstances
are that hurting people would be useful. But someone the other day said, you know,
if you grab your rifle and go outside, right, you say, this is it, this is the boog, I'm going to
grab my battle rifle and go outside. And if all of your neighbors are doing the same thing, right,
then it's on, right, then it's the boog. If you're the only one, right, then you're too early, and
it's not the boog, right, you've overreacted. The scale of the breaking of the social contract has not reached the point where resistance
of that type is required.
And I don't think we're anywhere near it.
So like I see a lot of talk, particularly on the left, but sometimes on the right, about
violent resistance.
And I'm just not, I'm not there.
Like, and it doesn't, it doesn't, and I don't think we're anywhere close to it because we
still have an ordered system, you know, a system of ordered liberty, right, as it was once described, where you have mechanisms and recourse, which is nonviolent, right, all kinds.
You have the courts, right, you have litigation.
What I'd like to see more of, right, are lawyers stepping up and helping people handle these things.
handle these things. Andy Ngo is one guy on the right who was harassed to no end by Antifa
militants in Oregon to the point where he moved out of the country. He no longer lives in the
United States because they followed him and they hounded him so aggressively and so badly.
And there were very few people willing to stand up for him because of the size and the nature of
the opponents he faced. And so I don't know. I mean, it's, you know, violence is a
really difficult subject as a lawyer, and the total breakdown, right, of the social system is
also an extremely difficult subject because, you know, when, you know, inter armas sealant leges,
right, in times of war, the laws fall silent. So you have to assume that there's basically a total
negation, right, of the legal system and that all laws have failed. And we're
just like, we're nowhere close to that, I don't think. But yeah, political violence and advocacy
of political violence is something which I find, you know, really, really difficult to accept,
particularly given the fact that there are a hundred different ways that you can get your
point across, that you can persuade, that you convince. We still have elections. Those elections can be won. And I think that when people say,
listen, no, that's not an answer anymore. We're not going to vote our way out of this. And I think
they're just, it's a lazy answer. And ultimately in the Charlie Kirk context, it's not something
that Charlie believed. And I didn't know him, right? I didn't know the guy. I followed him,
but I'd never met the guy. And I cried when he died. I cried because I just,
it was such a tragedy. And he was so young, right? He was
31 years old, and the guy was just off the charts.
I think he's a great demonstration. He's a great demonstration for how conversation
actually works, right? Like where we have these
violent things, right? Like where we have these violent things, right?
Where it's like,
here's an interesting thing.
For quite a very long period of time,
the right had done this thing
which was a fundamental mistake
and that was not care about culture at all.
Like the entertainment industry
is largely overtaken by
interests of the left
as opposed to interests of the right.
And of course,
they will be disseminating a very specific set of ideas. And that is also why anything that is,
you know, predominantly left wing, either like, you know, far left or just left leaning is so
widespread today. And I think the reason why someone like Charlie Kirk was so successful is
because, well, he just entertained differently. He didn't just like entertain in the sense of,
hey, I'm going to put on a massive performance
and have that be done for money or anything like that.
He put on, he entertained
somebody else's thoughts and then added
his own thoughts to these things to kind of
try to convince people and perhaps even
educate them towards a very specific
direction that is decidedly more centrist,
something that is more conservative.
Right? You've even
seen him speak out against elements of the far right.
So he's definitely not somebody who's on the far right,
which is insane if people believe that.
All the time, yeah.
They go, oh, this guy is a very right-leaning individual.
It's like, well, he's right-leaning, but not very, and also not far, right?
That's an interesting thing, because he's called out those people,
and those very people who are far right have themselves had a lot of problems with charlie kirk to the point of like you know
mentioning him on their shows and things like that that's you know kind of part of the course
if you have like if you are a person who's very influential and if you are spreading something
that is working then there will be people who stand against you you know people stand against
anybody for a whole litany of reasons but like you know your opinions is crazy but that's how it is
and that i think, is kind of where
Charlie proved the point of, yes,
you can, in fact, talk to people
and have that be a thing that you do
instead of just being outright violent.
Because if you look at, say, for instance,
Destiny, he's doing live
debates at universities now as well.
He's like the far-left equivalent of
Charlie Kirk. And people who
go there, they want to talk like, talk shit on him,
which makes a lot of sense.
You know, Destiny is a very abrasive individual,
but you won't win against him if you talk shit to him.
You'll just look like an idiot.
And that, I think, is a massive problem.
Like, you should be able to go there with meritable arguments
and then have a conversation based on that stuff
and have a bit of self-control and actually have a conversation
instead of just, like, trying to come out there and cause chaos. Like doesn't make any sense it's very incompetent to do and the same thing
also applies to kirk his best work is work that is rational stuff that makes sense you know trying
to convince somebody not by being violent or by being an asshole but by being a good debater a
master debater effectively which you know taking that because i think it was funny of south park
to do what it is that you know they did so it was a good joke i mean look even he he took it well i mean charlie
was like oh wow this is this is hilarious this is really really good where everybody else is
getting super offended he was like this is good you need to be made fun of and you need to accept
that you're going to be made fun of and if that is a thing that you can take then you're showing
a lot of strength and i think that's exactly what he showed there and it was really good charlie
assumed charlie assumed that any person he was speaking to was legitimately entitled to their viewpoint.
That was his thing.
If you walked up to him and you said, I think the moon is made of cheese, he would not belittle
you for that opinion.
He wouldn't attack you for that opinion.
He'd be like, cool.
Why do you think the moon is made of cheese?
That's really interesting.
I'm interested to learn.
And so he treated every conversation he had as a topic on which reasonable people could disagree, set out his point of view,
and maybe he convinced you and maybe he didn't. And I think that's the nub, right? That's the
core of what permits respectful disagreement is that you have to assume that there is some common
humanity shared between you and your opponent. And then you have to disclaim, right, that your opponent is illegitimate and that
their opinion is not something they're entitled to hold. With all the people on the left,
you know, Marxism and all that stuff and post-Marxism and woke theory and all the rest of
it, like, I think it's all the hogwash. I think it's just a bunch of, you know, Hegelian philosophical
bullshit that's come up with by a bunch of people who, you know, navel gaze all day and like are completely.
Hegelian, you girls in travels.
But like if they're entitled to their opinion, it's like, okay, cool.
I assume that you're, you have a legitimate entitlement to that opinion.
Let's talk about why you hold it.
Right. And so that is what he conferred legitimacy on everyone he spoke to.
Right.
And so that is what he conferred legitimacy on everyone he spoke to.
Right. By saying, listen, I'm assuming that you, you know, I'm I'm granting you.
Right. The the grace and respect of of assuming that you have legitimate reasons for believing the things that you believe.
And let's get to the bottom. I mean, my my law partner, one of my law partners, a guy named Steve Pally over at Brown Redneck.
He and I could not have more different political views. Right.
But like we both were very and, you know, I was representing free speech companies on the
right, right? And he was my law partner. So he was, you know, witness to that. And, you know,
sometimes assisted with that. And, you know, we had our disagreements philosophically. And he's
a typical, you know, Beltway, you know, Beltway critter down in DC in terms of, you know, the,
some of the viewpoints he holds, but like, you know, we respectfully disagreed with each other and we actually found
there was a lot of common ground, particularly, and very much like what Charlie Kirk thought.
He was very anti-corporate, for example. He was very skeptical of the power of the corporation
in society and what corporations can do when they're allowed to run unchecked, which is
traditionally a very left-wing point of view. So, you know, his methodology and approach was assume good faith and proceed on that basis. And for some reason, we have lost the ability
as a society, really, to do that. And I suspect it's because one side, you know, probably the
left, abandoned it first. And then the right looked at it and said, well, if they've abandoned
it, so are we. And so, which is really not a, not a positive development. And, you know, it is,
it is what it is, but all you can do, you know, under the circumstances is keep your head screwed
on straight, continue to, you know, execute on your own personal mission, whatever that is.
But I think also be consequential. This is, this is one of the, this is one of the major problems
that I've seen as well, which is people then take what it is that you said, where I said, okay, assume many things with good faith. But I would say that we should probably look at the semantics of that and go, yes, assume many things, but not all things, right? There's genuinely people out there that will just do things that are completely irrational and are just designed to disrupt, right? There's many of those people out there, many of which I will never give the time of day to, because that's kind of like, you know, how it is. I see my time is very valuable and I will
choose however it is that I will spend that time. I will also make sure that
that individual, if they're disruptive, is removed from any of the constructive
things that it is that I do because I will do what it is that I will do and I
will follow through on that and if you disturb me I will remove you from that
by just moving you out of the way. Just like kind of, there you go. Like, you know,
this is like a little box that's standing in the way, we're just gonna move that to
the side here and then be done with that.
That's like pretty much the extent of that.
I think we also need to be somewhat consequential, but we should have standards and ethics and good standards and ethics.
And just kind of be a demonstration of what it is that we are, that is proper, right?
Like even in my case, I do not ascribe to any kind of, you know, political side.
People try to classify me by putting me on like a little chart somewhere.
But every single day that chart changes a little bit, at which point it's like, hey, let me help you.
Let me put this like piece of paper down because it's flat.
And then we're going to like draw this imaginary line that is like up.
Okay.
And then you're going to realize that there's another thing here.
And this is called the above psyop layer.
This is when you like free yourself from fake cultures and go, hey, we believe in a set of
ideals that are rooted in ethics and utility and not rooted in opinion, right? We need reality.
We don't need subjectivity that is flawed because of the very idea of what human beings are in so
many ways, right? So we're going to live in the above psyop layer instead.
We're just kind of clean politics out of us.
And I think that was like one of the things that made him super successful,
because he wasn't necessarily political as much as he was arguing in terms of facts.
Though, you know, some stuff he may have gotten wrong,
which of course, you know, is how it is,
because, you know, we only have so much access to our brains as human beings. human beings. We are computers, but we're not invaluable computers, not by any measure.
But still, I think that is another one of those things, right? There's arguing more
logic and facts than just opinions, although definitely the opinion part came through
in a lot of places and was somewhat ideological in a sense, but that isn't something I would
term as a negative, because the ideology itself was brought forth in good faith
and not in the interest of annihilating anything,
just protection, really.
So that is another thing I think we should be thinking about
and perhaps in the next evening on.
Yeah, I saw a tweet from Doge Designer,
and then some jackass was quote tweeting it,
and Doge Designer was like, hey, here's a base on Mars.
And this is earlier today. And some guy was guy was like you know human beings want health care and yeah I saw that I saw that I kind of regret not tweeting it and I may do it later and I thought
to myself yes the one or is Americans want health care and I thought to myself when I looked at it
I said yes the one billion Americans on Mars would want healthcare that's provided by AI. That's correct.
When you have particular opinions that are fixed in a particular, I'll tell you a story. I was a
junior lawyer in London. It was my first six months as a trainee solicitor working at an English law
firm. And I was put in a private client group, right? So that's representing people. For those of you who don't know what that means, that's basically helping, you know, rich people with their estates.
And one of our clients was an American guy. He was a doctor. He lived in a beautiful house in Belgravia and he was dying.
And it was at the same time, because this was 2009, just after Obama got elected, a fellow named Scott Brown was elected a Republican senator in Massachusetts.
He won Ted Kennedy's seat. And that was like unheard of. A Republican winning in Massachusetts to start and then taking Ted Kennedy's seat was another.
And this was seen as like a sign of Republican enthusiasm. Right. And this man is lying there on his deathbed.
And he says to the partner who's there, you know, at least we got that son of a bitch Obama.
At least we gave him a bloody nose. And I was thinking to myself, good Lord, like you're sitting there, you're prepared to meet your creator.
Right. And the last thing you can think of is at least like a by-election from Ted Kennedy's seat in Massachusetts,
which was vacated when he died, was filled by a Republican.
And then you expire.
And it's just, it's so, the nature-
It's a question of, wow,
this is something that you've accepted
as being what your life amounted to?
Damn.
Well, it's such a distraction.
I mean, before my father died,
he got a lot of, he got worked up around
like Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton,
you know, spent a lot of time watching Fox News and that kind of stuff.
And it drove us crazy because I was like, man, like, like, this is it, man.
Like, this is it. It's going to end.
And like, instead of going outside and looking at the sun, one thing I did, I showed it to try to, like, shake him out of it.
He had terminal cancer, actually showed him a SpaceX rocket landing on a pad because he used
to tell me how amazed he was when he saw the rockets going up because he was 29 when humans
went up on Saturn V and landed on the moon. And I was like, hey, look what we can do now. Isn't
this cool? He's like, damn. And I'm not sure. I think when you're at that phase and you're kind
of staring down, looking down the barrel of the gun, you don't necessarily think, right?
Like you're too worried about other things, right? to kind of expand your mind. And I'm just hoping that
when my time comes, right, that I'll be like, cool, like, I don't know, like, I gave free speech
to Mars or something. I don't know, like, just keeping it open-minded and understanding that,
like, this political stuff, which people are getting so worked up about and burning so much energy over is not really a, and it's not really something which is going to last, right? The
political conflicts at the moment, who's right, who's left will be completely irrelevant in,
if not in 50 years, right? Then possibly in five, like what happens when AI medicine, so amazing.
So I, I, last night, right? I was having having some I went out and I had some tuna fish because tuna fish is fucking amazing.
And we had tuna fish for dinner and I came home and I started getting sick as a dog.
Right. I felt dizzy. I have like heart palpitations.
Like I was like, what the hell is going on? Is it food poisoning? Is it whatever?
Talk to the AI. The AI goes, oh, yeah, this is a this is a common thing when tuna isn't refrigerated.
The histidines in its tissue turn into histamines. And so what's happened is you ate a large piece of unrefrigerated tuna. You've got histamines. Go downstairs, take a Claritin, and you'll be fine. And I went downstairs, took a Claritin, all of current politics, the things people argue over is going to be completely meaningless within 10 years.
It's going to be replaced by a whole different set of concerns.
Dude, not even in 10 years, like depending on the impacts.
I mean, there were like massive, massive, like, you know, there was like a large amount of bridges that were burned during the Christmas period because everybody had like a specific view on like, you know, immigration and something like that.
And instead of looking at the whole thing logically, everyone decided, OK, you know what?
Fuck this. I don't care who wins.
Now is my time to like fight against this one specific issue.
I don't care who I will side with.
I will just simply destroy now.
And that was like a huge problem that a lot of people did.
of people did and i think it caused so much unnecessary destruction and burnt bridges that
would have been really good today um just merely off of disagreements that were not voiced properly
and not were interpreted properly as well right so all of this is irrelevant now people don't
remember it it's it's gone you know if you think about it it's not really there anymore who remembers
the christmas wars yeah you know sir sir do not redeem the H-1B.
Bruh.
But no, I still remember.
I came home early on Christmas because a place where I was at here was flooded.
And I wanted to get through the city before, because I knew that the flooding was going to go down.
Because I know how rivers work, obviously.
I've seen it in many years.
I've lived here for a very long period of time.
And so I was like, you know what?
I want to get,
I don't know if the city's going to get flooded again,
and I need to be at work
on this particular period of time,
so I'll need to get through that city
that is definitely going to be flooded,
because a major river is going through it,
which has not been adjusted properly,
even though they had a whole thing,
but that's besides the point.
Politics, again, major damages.
Anyways, I'm going home early, because that's how it is, driving on
the road at, like, 1 a.m., because that's the only way to get through the city, because
otherwise the police would be like, oh, no, you can't go through the city.
I'm, like, bro, it's literally dry, so I'll just, you know, go home late slash early,
go through it anyways, because there's literally nothing.
And then, because I was home early, I was there during the Christmas period, and then
all of this nonsense
broke out, you know, and it was a funny situation for me. And it all started with a bunch of people
losing their affiliate badges, because one of them accidentally, you know, according to them,
at least, accidentally docks the address of someone who was, you know, supposed to be doing
this AI relations thing in the government, which was Sri Ramakrishna, as I recall, right? And so that
was like seen as a huge attack that was like race motivated. And that turned into a whole bunch of
other unrelated bullshit that then led into this major war that was like the whole H1B conflict,
right? But how many people actually still remember that? It caused a ton of chaos. I think it was
absolutely hilarious for me. It was really annoying for Elon elon right because he entered this war as well
and then everybody just kind of looked at each other at the end of this like knives and everyone's
back and we're just like pulling them out of each other's back going like hang on a minute
there you go let me pull that out and put that on the ground and let's start over and then other
people were like no we're never starting over ever again that kind of happened and i thought that was
like really hilarious in some ways but also also was a major waste of time.
And what was it all good for at the end, right?
What did it do?
We wasted so much time, and we were here on Christmas.
Instead of doing other more productive things,
we ended up fighting about censorship,
which ironically enough was absolutely amazing for me.
It gave me a tremendous amount of growth.
I will not complain about that in this light.
It was really, really beneficial to me.
A lot of people who are here wouldn't have found me any other way
if it wasn't for all of those legacy media sites being confused by my identity,
which I have clearly stated for multiple years.
So it's really hilarious.
So it was a culmination of all these different events.
It finally accelerated something in a specific direction
that I'd been planning out for years as well.
And they just really played into my hands by accident, pretty much, which I felt was really hilarious, because I didn't really think about what
they were doing as much as I had thought, which was, you know, plans measured in centuries,
so to speak, but not centuries, just a few years, like half a decade. And it worked out was great.
But what about everybody else? You know, what did you do? Did you like go on a space somewhere?
Did you say some really aggressive things that you now later regret? do did you like go on a space somewhere did you say some really
aggressive things that you now later regret and now you are like remembered for in a very not so
you know productive light and then at the same time what was that all good for not that much
if you really think about it for me it was great one thing we don't have as a society anymore that we used to have is a way to sort of ritualistically engage in the absolution of sins.
So we don't like back in the back in the like the Protestants had various forms of public shaming that would work.
The Catholics, of course, had indulgences and you have confession.
But like there's no way for someone to kind of just own a mistake and then have everybody just
be like yeah you know that was his you know we have it in the legal system in certain respects
so in Connecticut we call it accelerated rehabilitation right or AR and everybody
gets one and as long as you don't commit too terrible a crime you can as we say in the legal
business you can burn your AR and then you you know you get slapped on the wrist you're wrist, you're on probation for two years. And when it's done, the charges are dismissed, assuming you
haven't done anything bad. But like this thing with cancel culture has been, you know, back
during the, the, like height of the woke period, Balaji Srinivasan came up with a really interesting
idea about like anti-cancellation causes, clauses in employment contracts. And
I actually wrote one of the clauses and then published it as a proposal. And the idea would
be that like you could inoculate a society from this kind of retaliatory, you know, verbal
violence, even though not really violence, but verbal aggression by basically having a new norm
emerge where you kind of just
assumed that people would do something stupid once. And what you would do is you just kind of
say, listen, there's a clause in the agreement. It's been negotiated by a labor union. It allows
people to kind of just take a 90-day cool-down period, and you define a cancellation event
as an event where 10 or more people who are not related to the business uh or you
know one of its suppliers or something else contact the business regarding lawfully protected
activity uh by an employee of the business and what you do is you just kind of give someone a
time out and then it's okay well they took their time out and now they're back and that's it right
so you just adopt a sort of new normal a norm right which is designed specifically to address
okay but here's what happens so what if they do the same thing that initially got them into this normal, a norm, right, which is designed specifically to address...
Okay, but here's what happens.
So what if they do the same thing that initially got them into this problem?
What if they do that again?
Right?
Because there's some people who genuinely don't learn.
Let's say, for instance, it could be anything could literally be anything.
Let's say somebody is a social contagion.
This is a very edge case type of thing.
But let's imagine that there's someone who genuinely just causes social
instability because he dislikes somebody at the workplace and keeps doing this over and over
again. And this then harms the overall productivity of that workplace, right? How many shots need to
be fired from that person that then create this instability for then somebody to say you know what
enough right because you can bring people back but you can't guarantee that any of the people that you bring back aren't going to do what it is that they did that led them to be gone in the
first place again yeah so the the way i handled that was that it was basically an employer discretion
so you didn't because like everyone's employer everyone's employed at will these days. And so you're not going to get rid of the ability. If the employer thinks it's,
it's bad, right. And then obviously they have to be able to terminate on the first instance
where it's, where it's been disruptive, but you can say, listen, like we accept that employees
are occasionally going to make, cause at the moment the, the situation is employee makes one
mistake. They're gone. Um, and that was, I think that was, and in some
cases it's entirely justified, right? If an employee is arrested for some notorious crime,
or if, you know, they engage in some really, truly outrageous speech, that's, you know,
that's something which is an issue. But like the guy who was cracking his knuckles by holding his
hand out the window and someone said, oh, that looks like the okay sign, which, oh, by the way, 4chan convinced the Anti-Defamation League that that's a hate symbol.
And so now we're going to fire this line worker from his job. Like that kind of stuff.
Like if there is a procedure, right, by which the employer can say this is being handled in
accordance with the procedure, you buy time. Right. And so what you can say is, listen,
the eye of Sauron is on
this guy today. We're going to cool it off for 90 days. At the conclusion of that, we're going to be
able to think, do we do this? Do we dismiss? Do we keep? And the eye of Sauron will have moved on,
right? Or if the conduct is truly outrageous, it won't have. I think the issue is that you have a,
you know, there are decentralized systems which are figuring out how to weaponize
right attention and control how to weaponize attention in order to cause disruption on a
on a case-by-case basis i can tell you if someone who works for me said something you know stupid
online you know the the the one lesson i have learned over the many many years is that one way
you can say it is just be like yeah no we're, we're like, whatever, say what you're going to say. Like it's, it's a workplace matter and
we're not going to, we're not going to communicate about it. And generally speaking, nine times out
of 10, if you give it a week, right, the eye will move on to something else. So yeah, I agree. It
is an issue where you don't want to retain aggressive or violent, you know, that kind of
stuff. Yeah. Get them out of the workplace immediately. But you have other, the internet comes up with some very, very stupid shit and
people have lost their jobs for stupid stuff. And I think, I just wonder whether the aggregate effect
of, of having that kind of activity go on in the background when it wasn't something that
happened 50 years ago, um, is not socially corrosive in a way
that we should, you know, collectively just make the decision, listen, you know, everyone's going
to get one strike. And if it's one strike, fine. And then we're not going to, you know, ruin their
livelihoods. But like some of these people, like if you're working in a public school, and you said
something stupid, you know, they're, you know, about any particular, you know, political event.
And then, you know, that's publicly known, the likelihood that you're going to be able to get another job doing what you do
is extraordinarily low. And I think that's true for a lot of these cancellation cases.
So, you know, we have, there is a, there is a macro consequence. And speaking of macro
consequences, I actually have to dash. But, but no, sorry sorry macro consequences but uh but no thanks for having me
up good morning excellent man see you around catch you later thank you very nice see you
excellent i think we'll keep this here going for about one or two more hours, depending on however much context we still have for stuff that's actually good. And then we'll, I guess, do some streaming. I'll be doing some Path of Exile stuff there later.
show up there in the stream itself because I have a thing now which allows
me to aggregate chats from different from different platforms including X
into an actual on stream display so you can see your thing there which is really
really cool and actually allows people to read it as well because I'm streaming
on multiple platforms now I'm streaming on both kick on YouTube and I'm on
streaming on X as well all at the same time and I take the chats from each of
each of those platforms aggregate them all at the same time, and I take the chats from each of those platforms,
aggregate them all into a singular chat,
and then have that chat displayed on screen.
So, yeah, you can find me on all those platforms,
you can find me on KQ YouTube,
and, of course, you are here on X, right?
Which is, like, the primary viewership.
But, yeah, just thought I'd let everybody know that.
We'll do that in approximately, like, maybe one or two hours,
depending on how I feel and what the vibe of the day is, so to speak.
So, yeah, fun stuff all around.
But it's nice to have Preston up here again.
He was, like, you know, texting me about his escapades in the UK for quite a bit now.
So I thought, hey, this is excellent.
Again, you know, bring this up to him.
Then we can have a talk about free speech,
right, because freedom of speech is, like,
this really interesting edge
as well, right?
We're like, we have to draw
a line of what exactly is speech that
is actually
problematic,
you know, and speech that is not
problematic, like,
and then even the expression of things as well, right?
Massive groups of people.
Oh, that was amazing.
He's great.
I like that he brought up public shaving knowledge.
Brilliant.
I went to the theater today
and it was an R-rated film
and there were two babies
in the movie theater.
Wow.
The entire time I was just sitting,
it was Demon Slayer,
Infinity Castle.
It's like an anime film
and I'm just sitting there and I'm like,
we should really be publicly shaming these people.
We really should.
This is not acceptable social behavior.
Yeah, it's loud as fuck.
They're crying the entire time.
People are trying to watch the film.
At one point, I did fucking turn around and yelled at them.
Get them the fuck out of here.
What the hell are you doing?
That shouldn't be socially acceptable behavior, I feel.
This is true.
Plus, you're corrupting these kids' minds earlier.
I mean, look, here's the thing.
You can't bring these kids into this.
That's why it's R-rated.
You can't have them watch whatever that is.
It's going to scar you for life.
You're not meant to see those things.
Actually, in general, the degradation of things that are otherwise taboo,
like the enforcement of this, has been so absolute that I still, I know from people who've obviously lived longer than I have, people from the 80s, 70s, and a few decades prior to that, really interesting to see how ever-present just physical violence is today as like the the the
ability to see it really bad acts of violence or really bad consequences to violence gore for
instance is extremely easy to see these days you know back then it would be very difficult to see
anything like that it was such a taboo that you had to get it from like some shady people on like a DVD or some shit or like it was some
Spiky-haired dude named Justin in your school and like 2007 who would like, you know show you this stuff in the morning on an overcast Monday
Okay, just before you got your breakfast in by the way just just to really rub it in
So that was kind of like, you know the max for it
You wouldn't really see it anywhere. So that was kind of like, you know, the max for it. You wouldn't really see it anywhere else
unless somebody was actively trying to, you know,
really force it on you.
And you kind of wanted to see it in some ways as well,
because you could have just ignored Justin,
but you chose to sit down there with like, you know,
his autistic ass body because, you know,
the autistic dude is where the video came from.
And Justin's just the guy who's like distributing it, right?
Because he's got like the social dominance.
But like today, you just be opening up any kind
of like platform, and you'll just like see that stuff. The question is, you know, hey, a lot of
these platforms have kids on them. Is this really something that they should be seeing? I think that
is not the case. You should never be like, it's not normal to see these things. But today, it is
normal to see these things. Like if we just show that to somebody in the past you go wow this is like socially acceptable now
just like you know distribute the stuff it's like yeah pretty much somebody on like their account
is doing that they're like isn't anyone gonna say anything about that nah there was a period i think
it was this year where instagram had for three weeks they were just showing on their For You page, they were
showing violent videos.
It's still
like that. It's still the case?
Yeah, I deleted my Instagram
a couple years ago just because I kept
on seeing on my For You
it was either violence or something
like 90%
of the way to porn.
Yeah, yeah. It's really difficult to exit like 90% of the way to porn. Yeah.
Yeah.
It's really difficult.
It's really difficult to exit that as well.
Like you'd have to follow a certain set of accounts
just to like really overweight that
as much as possible.
That's what I do.
It's become a lot better.
I don't see any violence.
It's still pretty bad.
Like you'll still get your daily dose
of whatever the fuck's going on there.
Never seen somebody be like
chopped up by helicopter blades before?
Yep.
Instagram reels.
Let's go. That is actually a thing that like circulated a lot was crazy i remember seeing
that um but yeah so this is something we're like oh now they're made like if you click not interested
it like it doesn't doesn't matter like their whole algorithm is based off of how long you look at a
post and so if you watch the video,
even if you click, don't show me this type of content again,
it's gonna be like, well, he watched the video.
Yeah, the literal time,
even the literal time it took you to watch a thing,
like even, sorry, the literal time it took you
to click those buttons, that is counted.
Right, so that's there in the sorting system, obviously.
It's also the same, it works very similar to X as well um except here it's like much more distribution based where there's like
some person that you're following somewhere who like engages with this stuff and they don't really
know it but can be any any any number of things it could be like you sitting on that for a while
and just watching it but mainly it's stuff like just likes and bookmarks as well.
Bookmarks are kind of the silent likes.
That's why if you wanted to actually just like something,
you didn't want to show that you liked it,
you would just do bookmarks.
That was actually, that's still there from the old system
where likes used to be public.
And instead of, you know, how...
It'd be shown on your timeline, right? And you didn't want how it be shown on your timeline, right?
And you didn't want that to be shown on your timeline of stuff that you've liked.
So in order to prevent that from happening, you just bookmark it.
And the system at the time where they looked at it goes, oh, hey, since people are doing this anyway,
because they actually like the content, they want to like show a like,
why don't we just like insert that and go, hey, bookmarks are silent likes now,
which is exactly what they are.
And they still remain to this very day.
Still works.
That's why posts that perform massively and have a very low
like count, but have a ton of bookmarks, actually perform very well.
Yeah.
But yeah, the three weeks I'm talking about, it was an actual
glitch where it was non-stop, just that,
for three weeks, and then meta had to uh publicly
apologize and change the algorithm but it was pretty traumatized people like it no one could
fix it and they had to just close the eye when was this uh february february this year okay i
wasn't really on my phone much in February. That makes sense.
But no, what's horrible about watching violence,
I mean, this even counts with movies,
is the brain doesn't know the difference
between something that's either made up
or that you're watching it
and actually experiencing it in real time.
So, I mean, to Vera's point for those kids,
that's just awful that anybody would do that to their kids.
The public shaming
thing, by the way, is not used enough for other
things as well. And one of those is noise.
One of those main things
is noise.
When you're in public, there should be a certain
standard for how
you act, right?
Say, for instance, one of those major standards
is, hey, you know we have these things
called earphones, right?
So they're amazing.
We can plug those into our ears so that we can hear the music
or whatever it is that we're listening to in our ears
and nobody else's ears.
It's an amazing technology.
It was actually really fascinating when it first came out.
We're talking the Walkman.
Remember when the Walkman came out?
It was a huge thing because everybody could carry
music along with them, not just carry
it with them, right? But also be able
to listen to it themselves
and only themselves.
It was really cool. We should kind of
go back to that, in a sense, right?
See, I don't want to be sitting somewhere
and I don't want to be hearing your
fucking weird-ass video call
with a bunch of family members and you're talking into the phone like this.
So everybody can hear your fucking brain.
I'm in conversation,
bro.
Like,
yeah,
you have to be,
I think if somebody's doing that,
you should be able to slap the phone out of their hand.
I think it's just be the immediate reaction.
Everybody should have.
It's like,
you should be sitting there and you should be keeping your voice slow,
try to talk what it is that you want
and talk about something.
It's like, hey man, what's up?
Oh, really? Oh, damn, that's really bad.
Okay, thank you.
Thank you for letting me know that.
You need to excuse yourself and find a different room.
Even when I'm hosting a space,
I don't do this anywhere in public.
I do not do this in public.
I get out of public and I go into a private space somewhere
so that I don't bother the public with this because, well, I am talking and it's
very fucking loud and I have a very imposing voice. So I'm not going to fucking, I'm not going
to go out there and I'm not going to be hosting that stuff in public. That's why I like, you know,
have the timing be a certain way because I'm not in public while I'm doing this. And hell,
I'm not even around people most of the time when I'm doing it as well. Unless of course, you know,
it doesn't disturb them. In which case, you know, that's the thing that I'm doing.
Same thing also, you know, goes to any other kind of, like, noise.
Or, like, eating as well.
Like, imagine if you're on public transportation,
and then somebody's opening up this, like, really smelly food,
whatever the hell it is, and just, like, starts eating.
Same thing with, like, chewing gum, all this kind of stuff.
Anything that is an insane intrusion and some sort of
warfare on the senses should be left at home, right? Because we're all in the public space
and we're all doing weird things that are each somewhat disturbing to another person.
So maybe we should leave those things behind and just exist in the public forum for what it is
that we want to do, be that go from point A to point B, or just exist there because we want to just get out, right? That was
one of the ways, one of the reasons for like going out is actually to relax, because you could sit
on a bench somewhere with a book and just read, because it was a really interesting environment,
like a park, for instance. And, you know, in the park, there may be some other things, like, you
know, maybe some kids playing in the background, if there's like a playground nearby instance. And you know, in the park, there may be some other things, like maybe some kids playing in the background if there's a playground nearby,
or just a general park where nothing else is going on,
and you just kind of sit there, and it's beautiful,
and it's a thing we're used to.
Now, what do we have?
Random-ass fucking dudes listening to the most braindead
of all music on Earth,
on skateboards and other motorized vehicles,
just barreling through people.
Or even worse, you have those people on those bmx
bikes that are trying to like do wheelies in traffic you should just be able to open the
door and kind of like smash them off of that that should be a really good public response i think
also why the hell are like cyclists so like hyper opinionated to their own personal existence like
why and also why are they half blind you know have you ever noticed this where like
dude they're on their own little dedicated lane which is insane but okay that's a thing now
you know we're advanced enough to do that okay cool you have your own dedicated lane they now
think that they are a vehicle i'm like no you are a whatever that is sitting like you're on this
little thing you're not a vehicle you don't weigh several tons and it's easy for you to stop but
it's not easy for the other vehicle to stop because it's a vehicle. You're not a vehicle. You may see yourself legal as that, which is bad
enough, but you are not a vehicle. Get that through your head, right? And then you have like these
weird helmets. And I'm pretty sure that has something to do with the site restriction as
well, because they would literally just keep going on the track, not look anywhere. And just,
there would be a car just sitting there, and they would just
barrel straight into it, and then blame the car. I'm like, well, it was you driving into it. It
wasn't moving. It was not doing anything. It was literally sitting there, and if you didn't see
that, it was just kind of on you. And then for some reason, they're like totally immobilized for
the next two minutes on the ground, even though there's not even a scratch on them. And you go,
what? My favorite was when i was stopped at
a stop sign and some guy rode his bike into the side of my vehicle and then after i finished my
delivery he went to the dominoes i was working at and started yelling at my boss saying i hit him
yeah it was just like exactly go yourself this is exactly what I'm talking about. That type of behavior
should be shamed.
No, bikers almost call it
You should be afraid to do that.
We gave him quite a good shaming.
We yelled him out of the building.
We chased him away.
Everybody was very angry at that dude
on my behalf.
I just watched it happen.
I was like, dudes, I'm not that pissed off about it
but thanks now this is like everybody sees this issue themselves and sees that as an
opportunity like oh yeah we got one we're gonna do this we're gonna show you how we really feel
2025 to 2030 the era of common sense there by the way i don't believe in common sense i only
believe in logic no common sense please please that stuff needs to be deleted. That is a logical policy. It's garbage. It doesn't exist. It is for sure. Common sense does not exist. I'm sorry to say this. There is only logic.
for a very long period of time, were things that are extremely illogical.
So in a sense, by the very definition of what is common sense,
and the thing that makes it a sense that is common,
is that everybody's an idiot, and then has dumb things in their head,
and thinks that's totally normal, and then you get told,
when you're saying, hey, we should probably not be doing those things,
well, everybody else is doing it.
That's common sense right there.
It sounds very stupid, isn't it?
I agree, it is very stupid.
So how about instead we look at something and go,
hmm, this is really dumb.
Well, it's pretty common and that's kind of
how it works out. I don't think that was a
description of common sense.
Really. That's a
completely different phenomenon altogether.
Common sense is just the ability
of perceptive normalcy.
The ability to understand that if you leave something out in the rain, it's going to get wet.
That is common sense.
Hang on, guys.
I have a design thing.
I guess it's more of social, like, ways that people conform socially that are normal, that are usually just not logical.
I'm talking about, like, cultural norms that, like, become ingrained and then people get stuck in old ways.
Correct.
That's what he's talking about, yeah.
There's different definitions for common sense, yeah.
That makes sense.
But your way it makes sense too, Vera.
Well, I think it's that people use the term wrong.
Yeah, that's true.
People use a lot of words wrong.
I think people say, oh, that's common sense.
And it's like, no, it's just logical and smart. Or they do the opposite of, oh, it's common sense. And it's like, no, it's just logical and smart.
Or they do the opposite of, oh, it's common sense.
And it's just what most people are doing.
And so I think that some people just use the term differently.
And that's why it's not really effective to talk about common sense in that way as something that's good.
So common sense is not common sense.
That's what we've got.
I think that's the conclusion we've come to.
It's not always what's best.
True.
Like common sense would tell you that water conducts electricity.
That's not true.
It does not.
Yes.
The electrolytes conduct it. The stuff that's in the water conducts it.
And that's also one of the reasons why hydropower, not hydropower, sorry,
why hydrogen is such a really, really weird source of energy,
because it's not a source of energy, it's actually a battery,
and it's a very inefficient battery of that on multiple levels,
not just being, oh, hey, actually, it's a perinous molecule
that gets through everything because it's literally one of the smallest things
you could ever try to contain,
but also that stuff has to be contained under pressure,
which makes it even worse.
It doesn't smell like anything.
It doesn't look like anything.
It has an invisible flame.
Oh, and by the way, you have to keep it cryogenically.
You know, you have to store it cryogenically.
It means it's cold and frozen at all times.
That costs energy because if you don't do that, it literally explodes and kills everything
around it. Oh, yeah, by the way, remember the Hindenburg? Yeah, pretty much. Very light, very
nice. You know, great, great. It's better than helium from the perspective of it being super,
super light. But definitely not a thing you should be using. Again, citing the example of
the Hindenburg, because things can go wrong. And then, you know, you do have a big gas balloon
that is like filled full flammable gas above you. Totally people can imagine why that's a major problem.
But also the turning of water into hydrogen is a very, very inefficient process,
mainly because of the electrolyte problem.
because there ain't that many in there
Because there ain't that many in there.
so yeah, logic
common sense and then there's logic
we go, well, I mean, it's the battery
well, logically it doesn't make any sense
because not even logically it doesn't make any sense
but practically it doesn't either, which is just an extension of logic
so we shouldn't be looking at anything
that is common sense at all
we should be looking at things that are logical
something that was, say,
culturally acceptable to do, which is completely illogical, was the thing that people tended to do.
Like, oh, hey, by the way, this one person over here has a lot of knowledge as to how the stars
work, and he says that the Earth isn't flat. Goddamn, that conflicts with our logic,
or our common sense, or our consensus on things, which is kind of what common sense is,
even if you look at it definitionally, oh, hey, let's just burn that guy at the stake
because he said the earth is round and not flat.
I.e. Galileo, we've done that.
Right? We've tried to do that before. That is a thing.
So we looked at a logical conclusion, but instead of looking at the logic of it,
we decided to just burn people. That doesn't make any sense. That is really, really bad
and very evil. Let's not do that, right? Even saying something that's supposedly controversial,
very simple as well. It's like, you know, even if I were to make a statement that was like,
supposedly unhinged, one thing you can't do is call it a lie.
So I'm just ahead of the curve.
Sorry, but really not sorry at all.
What I said is correct.
It's the same thing.
Logic over whatever that common sense is supposed to be,
which I dislike quite heavily.
Common sense is defined as an application of logic.
Fake application of logic.
For me, it says prudent judgment.
I think people have different ways to define it,
but the core message that he's talking about still makes sense.
It's just to be logical over everything else.
Yep.
That's actually where the term comes from, from the Latin, is to use logic and reason
on basic evidence.
And now the logic and reasoning is anything other than anything that is even loosely associated with evidence, which makes the common sense very commonly nonsensical.
Can you cite examples?
The thing you just mentioned, the water part, like a lack of understanding of the basics and the mechanics of the universe.
the basics and the mechanics of the universe and now we say well that's the thing that's causing
And now we say, well, that's the thing that's causing the problems.
the problems i feel like those examples are very few and far between no i feel like there's a lot
of things that we look at and i can just look at put two and two together and be like all right
yep fire burns got it or like saying hey wood, wood is wood poisonous. It's like, well, what
do you mean? In which application is it poisonous?
You know? And then
you go, well, I mean, technically you can eat a bit of
the wood, but then that's going to cause other problems.
And then you go, well, then wood is
dangerous for you.
Yes, but also no. Okay, then we have
no more wood in the household. No, that's not
how that works.
So there you go. That's where the common sense problem comes into play.
And then you have a whole bunch of people that go, oh, wow, wood is like a sponge.
And there's a bacterial problem with things that hold stuff.
Oh, boy.
Now we have to get rid of all the wooden boards in our kitchen and replace those with plastic boards.
and it's like, well, actually, you left out the part where the wood is antibacterial
And it's like, well, actually, you left out the part where the wood is antibacterial.
and the small chopping board that is made out of plastic
is actually putting microplastics in your food and you're eating that now.
I wouldn't describe that as common sense.
Well, it kind of is.
I would describe that as failed logistics.
Depends. Depends.
Depends.
It's still a very common thing.
Everybody goes, oh, wow, you know, let's get a plastic board.
It's a common thing to do.
It makes sense to them.
Completely incorrect, of course.
Nonsense on every level, but yes, it's a thing.
Or like, for instance, hey, we need to use alternatives to specific types of wood because of the species being endangered.
And then saying, okay, we can't have this wood anymore.
Instead of saying, hey, instead of saying we can't have this wood anymore, why don't we just replant the trees?
Very doable.
And given that there's an economy around it, we should probably replant the damn trees so that we can
farm them. We should not just replant them to have them, but replant them to use them. That's kind of how it works. We call these things plantations. That's ironically why you shouldn't
recycle paper. Yes, in a sense, yes. Also, paper recycling is really ass. It causes more problems
than it does solve them. If you don't recycle the paper, then they have to make new paper,
which comes from places where they plant trees to replace the paper,
as opposed to recycling factories that do not do that,
but they still use trees, they just don't replace them.
Yes.
Because they have no incentive to do so.
Oh, by the way, all that kind of trash that is hydrocarbon of any kind,
it should be burnt, but not in a,
hey, I'm just going to put it on a big mountain and burn it and let the pollutants go into the
air. Quite far from it. Actually, if you look at how the Swiss, for instance, process a lot of
their garbage, they actually turn it into power because what is plastic made out of? Oil. What
happens when you burn that? Turns into heat. Heat is energy. We can use this for things.
Oh, and by the way, if you wanted to recycle some things that actually make sense to recycle, like metal,
you need to burn away these things from the metal so as to allow you to take the metal out of the stuff and then use it for other things.
and use it for other things, right?
So now we're not wasting metal anymore,
and we're actually turning the...
Basically, it doesn't make sense
to reuse hydrocarbons into energy.
Makes a lot of sense, right?
It's beautiful.
I admire the Swiss for doing exactly that, by the way.
Their processes are quite good, I will say that.
Lived there for quite a while, too.
Not bad.
People are very slow, but they've got good laws.
The weather is a little... It looks nice on social media
because they take the best parts of the year
and the best weather from those parts of the year
and tend to just ignore the fact that
for most of the year, you have this thing
that is like a type of fog
that looks like normal clouds, but it's definitely not.
It's like a lower cloud, and it's just constantly there and the depending on which mountain ridge you're
living you know on or valley you're living inside of it is you got some really very violent pressure
changes which then creates insane headaches so if you're not a mountain person do not go there it's
not a good time
you're going to be on pain suppressants most of the time and and whatever you do do not go in winter do not go in winter looks pretty neat if it is in winter but you got a lot of storms there
and just kind of go during the best periods of time and maybe you'll get lucky
it's pretty great pretty great down there it's like the world of the dark world but we're talking about Switzerland yes I mean we're cool
it's really that bad if you like if you like Sun and if you like if you in
general love green things and love the sun and love somewhat mountainous areas, there's a place called Hawaii that works out quite well if you're in America.
Or go to any of the other many tropical countries that exist, which have, you know, acceptable cultures that you can coexist with.
There are many.
Or just fucking go to Singapore.
It's a pretty cool place, too.
Just understand it's pretty close to the equator,
so it will rain every single day.
Yeah.
Which is pretty cool in its own ways,
but if you don't like rain every day,
then don't go there.
And if you don't like anything green at all,
and you love clear blue skies all the time,
deserts are definitely your thing, man.
They're pretty cool.
Just very, very dry and really awesome.
Plants go there very well if you irrigate them,
depending on wherever you are.
Don't go too deep into the desert.
It's not really...
I've spent a lot of time in the desert.
It's a very, very harsh environment.
But if you're used to it,
you can thrive in the desert.
you can thrive in the desert.
Yeah, this is true.
Yeah, this is true.
Like, people think they're like,
oh, why would you go out there all by yourself
and whatnot?
I go hiking
in the desert a lot.
And people are always like, oh, no, you shouldn't do that.
I'm like, this is my backyard.
It's like you go in your backyard and taking a nap
under a tree.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, deserts are great.
I do like deserts.
I've been in them for a few years.
They're pretty neat.
It takes a long time to get used to, as it is usually common with environments which are very harsh.
It does take you some time to get used to.
Some people never really get used to it. But, yeah, if you do get used to it, it's actually pretty fun.
You'll also notice something really interesting.
Normally the intuitive thing about staying cold or staying cool in a hot environment is taking your clothes off.
You're going to notice that putting clothes
on is actually kind of a move because you're trying to protect yourself from the sun.
Man, does it hit like a ray, dude. The UV index in deserts is very high, so you do end up getting
burnt very quickly, and getting heated up is really, really, really easy. So you have to cover yourself in some cloths. Like, do you see those, uh,
the traditional type of, uh, clothes that they wear in the Sahara, for instance, are a really great example of this. What they wear makes a lot of sense. I've worn it myself. You actually
stay very cool under that because the sun is really, really hot. Everything else isn't really
that hot. It's just the environment that does become hot, which then basically turns the sand into a type of heater.
And that then makes whatever air there is pretty hot as well,
which I've experienced myself.
10 out of 10, do not recommend that.
It is really insane.
And they cover their heads.
Like, I've experienced 45 to 50 degree weather.
And I don't mean Fahrenheit, i mean celsius that was that was
that was scary that was really scary yeah i i live in the it's called the the wild horse desert and
uh it it's one of the few deserts that doesn't get cold at night but they also have the other
extreme like if you go into like into the Chihuahuan Desert,
there are nights where days will be 100 degrees and nights will be in the 40s.
Yeah, everything starts freezing.
It's the same in the Sahara as well.
I didn't think that was actually going to happen,
but there was a pipe installed somewhere.
It was really funny.
There was a pipe installed, a water pipe,
and the water literally froze inside of the pipe
and the pipe blew up.
And we're wondering, how the hell did that happen?
It's like, oh, well, actually it froze.
Wow.
Things could freeze in the desert?
That's crazy.
Yeah, it gets really cold.
It gets really cold during winter.
Awesome.
People think like the big snowstorm in Texasxas that happened a few years ago people are
like oh it's texas it shouldn't snow like that but the reality is is like every couple of years
it gets really cold like that a lot of people got flooded from that yeah the power supplies
at night even like in normal seasons like spring and fall, it's so cold at night.
Remember the Texas
power problem?
Where that all fell apart?
Yes, I do. I lived there
at the time. I went from
Minneapolis where everything
was on fire because of riots
and then I moved to Austin and then everything
froze and then I didn't have water
or power.
It was a real fun couple of years for me.
You know, the most fucked up part about that is we were not anywhere close to our peak summer demand.
So we were literally getting, like,
the power company were responsible for that issue completely.
Like, they could have produced enough electricity to make that not happen.
And people can say it's because they're trying to price gouge or whatever.
But the reality is someone didn't do their job right.
Yes.
Yes.
It wasn't because of the lack of infrastructure.
Yeah, this is where then the infrastructure arguments come in and both fall flat at the same time.
But also, by the way, that same type of problem affects Europe as well.
Remember when Europe, like Spain specifically, was out of power for a considerable amount of time?
I think it was like, was it this year or was it last year? I can't recall.
Feels like last year.
I heard they did that
just so people wouldn't pirate the
soccer games.
Oh yeah!
That's a good one.
That was recent.
Yeah, that was pretty recent.
Yeah, that was really stupid.
And it was funny because just before
that, there was like stupid. And it was funny because just before that,
there was this memetic war going on where people were saying,
oh, Europe really can't make anything.
And while Europe thinks they're super advanced,
they have problems with all of their infrastructure
because of the nonsense that they focus on
over stuff that actually matters.
One of the main roasts is
that you don't have proper air conditioning in Europe.
This is very much so true.
And it's a major problem during the summer.
You've always seen people complain about the heat
in the summer over there.
Like, if there's a heat wave,
all of them complain about the heat.
That's because they have insufficient air cons,
or in some cases, they're even forbidden to use them.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Like, for instance,
one of the most insane examples of this
was when they were forbidden to heat their homes
during the fucking winter.
Yes, that's a thing.
Yeah, that was the actual thing.
There were police that are patrolling the streets with little measurement devices, and they would measure the temperature of your window.
And if that is just a little bit high, they would come in there and they would issue fines and whatever other correctional means to whatever crime you've committed, which is room
too hot. Yeah, that's Europe right there. I don't want to ever hear anything out of Europe about the
freedoms that they have. You don't have any freedoms. It's not very nice down there. Depends
on which part of Europe, of course, right? If you want to go to Germany, I would never live there.
You know, I'm a German myself. Absolutely not. Not doing that. I don't like living under authoritarian
states ruled by incompetence.
That's just not happening. Something I cannot do for myself. Really not doing it.
So you can do whatever you want until eventually your entire economy collapses and you're taken
out of power because no one's going to follow your orders anymore. There's nobody there
who keeps you in power by any means. And then they kind of live in other European countries
and they were just going to wait until, wait until the difficulty adjustment way front hits,
and then just kind of redoes everything.
Unfortunate as that would be, it's kind of, like, one of the ways out, you know?
That and senseless violence, but the senseless violence part's not pretty,
not really productive either.
So, yeah, that's kind of, like, you know, the fate that befalls Germany.
Oh, and yeah, I can say that because I am German.
So, yeah, if somebody has, like, any ideas and wanting to, like, talk about foreign anything, it's like, well, I'm not as foreign as you are because, you know, I live in Europe.
So, I get to say that.
I get to self-roast.
Thank you very much.
Excellent.
Excellent.
Like, I'm not delusional, right?
I will call out nonsense because I want the nonsense to disappear, right?
That's a thing.
That's a thing.
It greatly bothers me.
Also because it greatly causes problems as well, right?
Because if Germany does something stupid, then, you know,
oh, wow, you're a German as well.
Can you tell us about what's happening in Germany?
It's like, no, I don't.
I've kind of unplugged from that.
I don't disagree with any,
I don't disagree with some of the opinions
people have over that place
and that they disapprove of whatever,
like, you know, current things that are happening there,
but I also will not approve of the things
that are happening there.
So I'm just kind of outside of that,
but I will say that I don't like it.
That's really just it for me.
Right.
So, yeah, very, very fun.
Very fun situation.
That's Europe with their energy problem as well.
Right.
Similar thing.
I still remember one of the interesting things was in a book,
and this was like, I think in 2013, 2012, actually.
No, it was 2011.
2011 when I read this.
It felt like 2011.
Yeah, 2011, 2012, something like that.
It was a book I read, right?
It was published in 2005, I think.
And in that book, they were saying by 2025,
they were going to get rid of all of the coal power, right?
It's 2025 now, and they've actually upscaled the coal thing and descaled the nuclear thing.
Damn.
That's not me.
Pretty much.
Yeah, I mean, hey, a lot of those nuclear power plants have been deactivated.
And they're getting bombed and things, you know.
It's a thing.
So now instead of energy independence, Germany actually has an energy dependence problem.
Which even, ironically enough, as strange as France is as a country,
as a culture, and as a people,
and as, worst of all, leadership,
they have actually made a very smart take.
Macron, for instance, said,
hey, we need more nuclear power.
Yeah, that's a very smart thing for him to say,
and that's a very true thing for him to say as well,
and they hope they action on that,
because if they are able to pull that off,
then they will be making a ton of money, because they will end up supplying a lot of energy to
most of Europe, right? Because most of Europe is descaling the energy production, specifically
nuclear energy as well, for reasons that are completely brain dead, right? Just because a
bunch of, like, people in the 1980s, you know, fucked up boiling water, because they cheaped out
and had a bunch of incompetent maniacs using the cheaped out plant, because that fucked up boiling water because they cheaped out and had a bunch of incompetent maniacs using
the cheaped out plant
because that fucked up, all the boomers decided
oh my god, oh my god, glowing rock's
dangerous, we must blow everything up, that news is it
you know
while they were also like, you know, fucking future generations
they thought, hey, we're gonna fuck them even harder
by like continually perpetuating
this nonsensical mind virus
that somehow nuclear power is dangerous.
Which is not.
It's actually much safer.
I mean it may have been a little bit more dangerous back then.
But it is way more safe today.
It's way more safe.
Hell we have nuclear reactors today.
That you couldn't even make meltdown.
If you tried.
And they have tried.
It's amazing.
For a while.
Most of Europe Europe was actually giving
Russia more money
from the oil and gas that they were
buying from Russia than they were
sending to Ukraine during the
breakout of that conflict
for like a year or two
yeah they were like oh man
we gotta boycott the Russians
I'm like yeah you can startcott the russians i'm like
yeah you can start with the gas but you don't have enough power for that so uh you could have
also used the nuclear power plants oh that's right you've disabled those permanently yeah that was
kind of dumb wasn't it bureaucrat that was kind of stupid i don't think i had that completely
disabled them at that point i i think they were still in the phase out part which they
could have turned around and you know undid but and then also the process at least was already
there and the bureaucratic processes that they have are like so set in stone it's crazy
i know germany built just a massive massive solar field in an area that gets almost zero sun and it's only producing like
four percent of the solar energy that they uh predicted its output would be i i really want
to know where they got the data from that that was even a good idea because i know what germany
is like solar my ass is the first thing that i thought of when i heard oh we're gonna do solar
there it's like um there are better things to do just maybe hydropower would be more of your thing
because you know that's something you can do right what what makes you think solar is like the most
efficient way to get any kind of energy what is that who's telling you this nonsense you know
efficient way to get any kind of energy.
What is that? Who's telling you this nonsense?
You know?
It's crazy.
That, like, deeply
annoys me. I'm a person who uses solar power,
by the way, so I know
how bad it is.
I live in a place
which has an insanely high UV index,
so there's a lot of sun here.
Even for the positioning of where this place is, there is a lot of sun.
And even that becomes problematic sometimes still,
depending on the scale.
Jesus fucking Christ, why the hell would you put this in Europe?
Especially that part of Europe, and that part of fucking Germany,
which is just like a whole bunch of factors that combine to make
probably one of the most illogical decisions that I've ever seen in my entire life.
Like solar is great, just not there.
Put something else there.
Anything.
Anything.
Just not that.
Maybe not anything, because we don't know about the coal power plant stuff there as well.
Because too much has been already torn up.
You know, they like flatten the entire country pretty much just to get at the coal.
And it's been going on for, like,
generations, basically.
Really interesting. Even my grandmother was, like, you know,
provisioning parts for the big diggers
that would literally flatten
the land with those big wheels.
You know?
What's she calling?
What?
What?
I don't understand that.
You said the big diggers?
Bruh.
Bruh, seriously? Wow. Okay.
Too many SSRIs.
It's not my fault
they make them look like M&M's.
Bruh.
Were you the M&M's
tube reddit kid
no but I don't know
what you're talking about but I can kind of
figure out and
that's hilarious
it's attached to a larger structure
that should not be harmed
okay what the fuck?
Don't worry about it, it's a whole meme.
If you look it up, you'll understand.
Okay.
Don't worry about it.
It's internet lore.
It's in my brain.
Look, I spent a lot of time,
when I was younger,
I spent a lot of time on, like,
oh, this is one of those interesting things
where I see the problem people
having a meltdown about discord.
Turns out that the killer didn't actually say much of anything on discord that was even remotely harmful.
So that's funny.
Then there's also the, oh, they use discord servers, the Antifa people that use discord servers to disseminate stuff and monitor people.
I'm like, you know, that's like every social media platform
on earth. Yes. Right. You could just literally create an account and just sit there and just
watch someone. Right. You know that that's possible everywhere. Right. You know that
governments are doing this themselves. Right. Even the very same government that wants to have an inquiry on those people monitoring in those ways.
Right?
I'm sorry, is this supposed to be not normal?
Because you're looking at a pretty big one and it's not those guys.
You know?
That's pretty crazy.
Anyways, you know, it doesn't matter.
No. Like, everybody uses discord you know and discord has been like cracking down a lot of that actually
right ever since its acquisition by you know very special interest group it's like it it's it's it's
it's just stupid to see like people crash out about it doesn't make any sense they don't actually
understand what the real issue is.
Because they just look at the rhetoric and go,
oh wow, this is that.
And I'm like, you do realize that Discord
really doesn't do much of anything.
Really.
And it's just echo chambers.
Discord's entire product
is literally echo chambers.
That's its product. Its product
is echo chambers.
There's a thing echo chambers. That's its product. Its product is echo chambers. Like,
there's a thing called a Discord server,
which is like a
zone within Discord, which is then
like, controlled to a very
large extent, just not programmatically,
by whoever owns
a server. I'm an example of this.
I have a Discord server. Many of you
here know that that is a Discord server. Many of you here know that that is a
Discord server. Many of you are there in that Discord server and participate in conversation
on that Discord server, right? Actually, as a matter of fact, Blythe, could you go link that
right now? So we aren't spreading anything political on there. We're actually keeping
political stuff down. And it's actually very difficult to spread political stuff on there,
because if somebody has set their mind to removing exactly that stuff out of conversation, it is actually very easy to do that on Discord. Much, much easier than on any other social media platform.
Because it's like a forum that is also a platform. That's what that is. That's why I like Discord a lot because it's a very controlled, curated experience, an experience that I can curate and I can control for the community.
You may disagree with some of that curation, but that's fine. That's totally fine. You can disagree with that all you like. I'm still going to do what I want because I know what I'm doing.
I'm not going to be irrational about it. Far from it. I'm going to be very rational about it. I have a certain set of rules, and if you agree with those, then yeah, then there's going to be no issues at all, right? Those rules are
there for everybody. Pretty neat, right? So I look at this and I go, it's hilarious. So yeah, by the
way, if you'd like to, you can join me there. Discord server link has been put up at the top
there. It's an extension of the Noetic Order X community. By the way, the Noetic Order X community
is the one that's like pinned in my profile and a bunch of profiles here as well. It is the one
where basically we put lots of interesting content there. We try to like remove the politics from all
conversations because we believe that it's not constructive at all. And instead, I'd like to
focus on things that actually make a lot of sense. Some of our mods are actually showrunners themselves, one of which being
Andre, who recently, of course, you've been a member in the Discord,
not in the Discord, sorry, in the X community, you would have seen
that he had a space today where they were talking about space habitats,
which was really interesting, and probably could even go listen to that, it's still pinned there.
So yeah, that's the thing we do as well.
We actually like bring people or various mini backgrounds together into shows and occasionally host one on that.
And that's like a noetic order space.
It is very subject matter based, like, you know, very focused, curated experience, which is what that's for.
And a lot of the experiences that I bring forth is just like the conversation, right, which is a very meandering, expansive topic type of thing, as opposed to something that's more focused on one
topic than any other topic, right? So that's that. But then we also have a server for that,
where you can kind of like, you know, curate a whole bunch of data, which has a different sense
of moderation to it, where like the signal is being promoted over anything else. We have like
a ton of channels. So if you have something that you want to like you know put there it's actually
really great interface with the uh with the mainstream where you can like actually have a
discussion about these things like hey what does the mainstream actually think about these things
and then you can kind of like talk to people about that and you'd be confronted with a very specific
reality which is a simple mind versus a more complex mind and all these like things that are
actually very interesting so that's why we have that actual server.
We have that Discord server,
because I think that that was a cool thing to do.
So that's why we have it up at the top, right there.
Go click that.
That is the server.
You can join that.
And if you'd like, you can even subscribe to that server as well.
There's a subscription on X,
which then allows you to be kind of behind the scenes whenever
I'm doing something in the advanced member section like say for instance
when I am you know hosting a space I look at the comment section there or like
when I am live streaming I'm in there as well so you get kind of like a behind
the scenes look at things so that's pretty cool it's like an exclusivity
thing so yeah that's there.
But yeah, kind of to rub it in even more, there is no, I don't see the stress.
I don't see the arguments.
I don't see the validity of it in any sense
that that platform is violent in any way.
It's very subjective to its users, right?
Like if there's a whole, if there's like a,
and it's been like this for years.
I still remember there was, like, servers where people would try to consolidate, like,
actual, like, real movements that were going to do real violence.
And then Discord straight up came down and banned that.
Right?
Like, they actually got rid of that stuff.
Because organizing that is really, really dangerous.
And so they did things about that.
That's a whole issue of its own in some other ways for some people. But genuinely, the stuff that I saw, the crackdown was actually quite warranted, was actually quite meritable.
So I don't understand what their problem is, realistically. Oh, there's a bunch of
fucked up users on a platform. Well, Newsflash, that's every platform. Just that they're there
doesn't mean that that's the primary. Just that they're there doesn't mean
that that's the primary business model. Quite the opposite, actually. Because violence and
destruction doesn't make money for that company. It's the exact opposite, actually. So that is not
something that is in Discord's interest. Same thing applies to X as well, right? X actually has like large swaths of moderation
teams that try to keep certain problems off the platform, problems being not opinion-based issues,
but like legal things, such as child safety related things, for instance, which is a very
heavy focus for X. X has a very heavy focus on child safety related things. So we'll get rid of that as much as possible, which means that actually X is one of the more safer social media experiences for children.
Right. Or those people at least who are like 13. I think like the limit here is 13.
Right. So to keep this place safe, they crack down on these things that may compromise child safety as much as possible, which is very difficult because,
again, it's the internet, right? So to crack down on that requires a lot of effort. But if there's
like a case that slips through because there's just that much stuff, like humans are probably
fucked up in a lot of ways. There's a lot of fucked up people out there that will try to like
get past all of this, no matter how hard you try. It's like trying to stem the flood. And they've
been very good at doing that, but it's still pretty difficult to do it. You know, maybe one or one or two cases
slips through. And then sometimes people may see that. And then you could go ahead and say,
oh, wow, there's like that shit on the platform. But actually, they've done so much to get that
shit off the platform and bring it to the proper authorities that they've actually done way more
than any other social media platform.
That's the same thing, right?
There's always going to be fucked up stuff somewhere.
Now, an argument can be made for, hey, is it sufficient, right?
And that's probably something that Discord's going to have to prove for themselves.
It's like, hey, are we actually fair and are we practical in the execution of keeping the platform a safe experience?
That's something that Discord will have to answer.
Because I don't know that answer.
From my personal experience, I think the answer is yes.
Just because there's people that have an account.
That's like saying that, oh hey, a terrorist had an Anon X account.
Now all Anon X accounts are terrorists.
That's bullshit.
Obviously, that's complete bullshit.
That's a dumb idea, that's a dumb argument, that's really fucking stupid.
The same thing also applies to this Discord thing.
I mean, they searched all those messages, they didn't send anything, I was fucked up.
On there, at least.
From what's been available to me.
So it's like, okay, what are we, what's the problem
again, right, like okay
people just have a problem, they're just like
on a warpath now, so they want to go
after everything, but I think we should like remember
you know, that there's a difference
between people on the platform
the problem is, there's witches
everybody thinks there's witches
and whenever there's witches
we all want to go on a hunt
we call this witch hunt yup Everybody thinks there's witches. Whenever there's witches, we all want to go on a hunt.
We call those witch hunts.
Yep.
That's what I've been seeing a lot of lately,
and I don't like it.
I feel like we should have stopped that.
1700s really should have been the limit,
I feel.
But here we are.
Can we just label the people we don't like as witches?
Because if we can, I'm down.
I think we should pick a different term.
Because I've met witches.
They're fine.
They're harmless.
They just like trees and bugs and shit.
It's cool.
Don't worry about them.
Don't worry.
Bruh.
And they stop every time they see a dead bird
on the side of the road to take its beak.
Oh, so you've seen that video. Wow.
There's a video?
There's totally nothing abnormal.
There's totally nothing abnormal about me.
I just collect bird beaks for my spells.
Not gonna lie,
as soon as I heard that, I'm like,
okay, that's it, I'm turning off the ego of propaganda, fuck this shit.
That was like
instant reaction, I'm like, that's it,
I've had it.
What? Don't worry about it.
Enough.
Yep, that was pretty much it, I was like,
okay, that's enough.
I never say it's enough internet, because it's not the internet
that's the problem, I said enough of whatever this is
because I don't want to see any of that. I want to see something else.
Different info street.
Adrian?
Hmm?
Adrian, why did you take down
my thorny cybertruck?
Because there is a Discord link that I want people to
click, and I don't...
Yeah.
It's called show running experience and I curate a very specific
experience and I was in line with that
so while in the middle of a
rant about that I wanted to like address
the subject matter which is what that was
it's called presenting a narrative
yeah
okay
did you look at it though
the thorny cyber truck
pretty much I think stock is nicer
pretty much
pretty much
you either looked at it
or you did not
I looked at it
I didn't really have much of a choice
in this matter
god damn it why does it still have to be there looked at it. I didn't really have much of a choice in this matter.
God damn it, why does that still have to be there?
There you go.
It gets really
bad when I have to talk for ages
and it just comes out like that.
Takes a while to have that
be repaired.
But yeah, we're still still
I'm still at 100% kind of I'm gonna take a watermelon actually not going well
what I'm alone yes what about sugar what about what sugarccane. Nah.
And after, like, I feel bad stealing sugarcane from the neighbors,
so I need to come up with an agreement for one of them.
Find Minecraft sugarcane speedrun any percent go.
Like, literally, I know where it is.
I can see it from one of my windows.
I know that there's sugarcane, but I need to, like, come up with an agreement that isn't dumb as fuck.
So you're not just doing it.
Look, I can stealth ninja myself down there. I'm very flexible. I don't do any yoga, but
man, am I flexible. I've done things that you can't imagine. I'm going to go down there
and I'm going to be able to slip through that forest and get to what I want, but I don't
think that that's a really ethically good thing to do, even though nobody's going to miss the one or two sugarcane
sticks out of the however many
tons are there, right?
That's logical, but not necessarily ethical.
Their private fields?
Huh?
Their private fields?
Uh, something like that, yes.
Yeah. I have my sugar cane
juice in me right now.
If I wanted to make it ethical, there's a very easy way for me to make it ethical
And it starts with understanding
That a lot of it is subsidized by the European Union
Which means taking from that is always ethical
I'm just kidding, that's a joke
Why don't you go
Bring them some tallow and you can do
Like a little exchange
Well, that's not going to work out at all
Actually, that's like a declaration of war
Really Oh wow Well, that's not going to work out at all. Actually, that's like a declaration of war, really.
Oh, wow.
Tallow pressure came to declaration of war.
Yeah, because they're Hindus.
Oh, actually, I got it.
I get it.
I get why.
No, because they're Hindus.
So if I literally extracted fat from their god's murder,
Oh my god, yeah.
Yeah, that's going to go down very well, dude.
That was the worst idea.
That was probably, that was not the move, man.
That was not the move, believe me.
Not even raw milk. Is raw milk
okay to bring them?
Raw milk should be alright.
That's not involving a death of a cow.
No, no, no.
Not only is it not involving the death of a cow, but actually consuming
the milk is a holy thing.
So that should work.
But I don't have access to that at the moment. Because the milk is a holy thing. So that should work. But I don't have access to that at the moment.
Because the cow is
on sick leave.
Aww.
That's so sad.
He went to go visit Bobby the Butcher.
Bro.
Bro.
Bro.
Bro.
My dad did that to me when I was real little.
We had a calf
that the mother didn't make it.
And I raised that.
I had it been like two or three years old.
And like six or seven
weeks later, he took it to
slaughter and then he
fed us the veal and let us know that we
ate the baby cow and that we need to grow up and be men understandable yeah how did you take it did
you cry i i thought he was joking i i honestly don't remember how i took it but i probably didn't take it well.
I was a little bitch at the age of two.
That is...
Oh, okay, yeah, no.
Yeah, that'll explain it.
Hmm.
I mean, I kind of had a similar experience,
but I never actively raised any of those animals.
I mean, I did go to this one Indian family's house,
and they were making fresh chicken curry.
And when I mean fresh, I mean actually fresh.
They literally decapitated the chicken in front of me.
Not that that's a problem at all.
I didn't have an issue with that.
I was watching wildlife documentaries. That shit was normal to me, bro. I've seen what tigers that that's a problem, man. Oh, I didn't have an issue with that. I was, like, watching wildlife documentaries.
That shit was normal to me, bro.
I've seen what tigers do to wildebeest, bro.
I don't care. That was not
something I was, like, impressed by. I was like, oh, interesting.
Oh, you do it like this, so you don't immediately cut off the
head so that the, you know, chicken runs
around without it, because it will do that,
and it will be a big, messy event.
Oh, so you just drain it like that. That looks really brutal.
Hmm, but it's very necessary. Interesting. By the way, I was, like, 10 at. Oh, so you just drain it like that. That looks really brutal. But it's very necessary. Interesting.
By the way, I was like
10 at the time, so.
There's a way that you can just snatch
it, grab it real fast, and spin
it and break its neck.
I remember seeing my dad
do that as a kid, and I was like, what the
fuck? Oh, yeah!
The spinning chicken thing, yeah.
It's like that one illustration that looks like Oh, fuck. Oh, yeah! The spinning chicken thing, yeah. Yeah.
It's like that, you know that one illustration
that looks like a meme of how to gut a fish fast?
What the hell?
Do you know that one?
Where it's like, 360?
I don't.
I don't know that one.
Call it good, oh, it's hilarious.
I'm just thinking of that Simpsons episode
where they had to get out of Japan
and Homer's just going,
knife goes in, guts come out.
Knife goes in, guts come out.
Knife goes in, guts come out.
It's kind of like that,
but what he did is they kind of took the fish apart
and then literally you 360 it onto the ground,
which is how the guts fly out of it with the inertia.
That's the illustration.
Or centrifugal
force.
Yes. Hey, give me an example
of centrifugal force. Or as Americans say
centripetal for some reason.
It's always irked me.
You know, people think that centripetal
force is not real.
It's kind of not.
The actual word centrifugal.
Yes, but centripetal
also exists. Not the other one that you
said, but centripetal.
It's a thing.
What's the difference?
It's the opposite of centrifugal.
Instead of spinning something to make stuff
go away from the center, it spins
to make stuff go toward the center.
Neat.
Yeah, I know.
It's a whole thing about gravity
and all this kind of stuff, but people then
schizo out on it. It's really, really fun.
So Americans are twice
as wrong delightful
it's like when we say aluminum instead of
aluminum like no
it's not how metal naming works
actually that's not
entirely incorrect because the
history of that is is that it's actually
so the person who discovered aluminium wanted to call it aluminum but the scientific community at
the time literally said it's not science enough it doesn't sound science enough and just call it
aluminium instead so then when that guy came to America, he normalized aluminum instead of aluminum because he wanted to call it aluminum.
So the original naming for it technically would have been aluminum, but we just call it aluminum because it sounds more sciencey.
Now, you can say that saying aluminum is better because it's like the original creator, but I would argue that it doesn't really sound better because it sounds kind of ridiculous.
Just say aluminium instead.
And the same reasoning that I'm going to apply with that,
I will also apply to animated formats such as GIFs.
Yes, we will call these GIFs.
Not GIFs, we'll call them GIFs.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry to say this.
I'm sorry.
I really appreciate the work and I love GIFs myself,
but I will not be calling it GIF
because there is no G.
Sorry, there is no J, it's a G. Okay, we don't call it jod we call it god okay one nation
under god not one nation under job that's not how that works and it's graphical image for a man
good yes so not as rapid wanted gift to be the original way.
It's like,
jeez, anytime somebody says GIF,
I'm compelled to give them peanut butter.
Where did the J sound come from?
If it's graphical image?
I don't know.
You just see it, and some people are like,
clearly it's GIF.
Well, see, there's an adjacent logic to this, where you say, when you verbalize G as the alphabet,
like in the alphabetic sense, you verbalize a G, not G, even though it definitely should have been G,
which is actually how Germans verbalize it. It's called G.
So in German, you say just G. so you actually pronounce G properly.
The pronunciation alphabetically is incorrect in English, from my perspective.
So G's are gay in German. Got it.
Yes.
That's very G.
Yeah, it sounds very similar, but very, very different.
Yeah, yeah.
Sounds very similar, but very, very different, I assure you.
I assure you, it's gay.
It's G.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, Y, K, L, M, N, O, P, O, L, T.
Yeah.
That was true for things.
Wunderbar.
Like that.
It's very weird.
And then try to say X, Y, Z, X, Y, Z.
X, Y, Z.
Oh, they say X, Y, Z.
It sounds like some sort of fucking spell, is it double v instead of double u which no no
actually that's that's a good one too that i love about the german alphabet they actually say it in
the non-retarded way they just say v they call the v a foul and a w a. Because it's a fucking V.
It really is.
It's V.
It's V.
What do you do when you say it?
It's the V for the way.
The way.
That's right.
We write.
Write.
Wilbur write.
Where does it say W?
In no point will you ever say that.
Even when you voice domains.
This is...
Instead of W-W-W point.
Do you know D-V?
Yes, I do know D-V.
I know the V very well.
V better than everything.
Fuck you.
Damn it.
I want a laugh,
decent belly laugh, but I can't because my lungs are just not permitting it.
Stupid flu lungs.
I'm not even sick right now. I'm not going to
say stupid lung. I do not insult my abigail while I, bro.
Just throw part of it.
God damn it.
Just the late stage effects, by the way.
I'm not actually sick or anything.
It's just stuff that's left over.
I'm actually feeling really, really well.
Hence the high energy, you know?
I feel like this whole space was a lot of high energy content.
Yeah, it's great.
I can't believe everybody got sick at the same time.
Yeah, me too.
That's just the thing that happens.
Little synchronicities, you know?
I know, but it just, like,
so bizarre to me.
I think I'm a little bit behind.
I think I'm the one who's starting to get sick now.
Ah, damn it.
I'm not saying everybody got it, man.
My body's just like
you sleep now I'm like you got it
whatever you say boss
speaking of sleep
how's the music coming along
last time I tried to do it I updated
my video drivers again to see if the new ones
were fixed and that was not the
case and then I had
the blue screen and then I undid it all
I made a little bit of progress and then I got sleepy and then I slept for 8 hours and then I woke to blue screen, and then I undid it all. I made a little bit of progress, and then I got sleepy,
and then I slept for eight hours, and then I woke up for like two,
and then I slept for eight hours again,
and then I woke up to a movie, and now I'm here.
So there's a full retelling of events.
Okay, okay, that explains it.
Because the new launch is coming,
and I would like to have it be done before the launch is out,
because otherwise we're kind of doing an outdated thing yep how's my plan for today while
you were streaming i'm gonna hook that up excellent that would be beautiful yeah now that i have that
cleared yeah i think even when the next launch comes out then since you're to figure it out how
to do this process here we can actually do another song right after that. It might be even easier, I think, right?
Because the entire time you had to switch personas
to deal with technical difficulties, right?
Yeah.
And that would have really fucked with your process.
I seem to have that issue sorted out,
and I'm kind of back in composing mode.
It's just, I hadn't done it in over a decade,
and you were like, a song i was like okay
i'll do what i can and then i had to laugh
so i literally out of nowhere he's like you're writing a song now i'm like uh
okay i mean he kept telling me about it i listened listened to one of it. He's like, okay, this is my song guy now.
I wish it was other technical stuff.
If you want me to code something,
I can give you a definitive timeline for that.
If you want to compose something,
I'm entirely at the whim of some invisible muse
that just controls whether or not music comes out of my brain.
It was kind of like
how I made the previous Starship edits,
where I'd have the music, and I'd have all of the clips,
and I would just have it in the inventory there,
and then I would just not look at it for a week
or two, and be like, oh, I'll do it
one evening. And then I sit there one evening,
and I'm thinking, oh, I solved all my
problems, I'm going to go to bed now.
Then I open up the file just to look at it,
and then I sit there until 2am
editing.
Yep.
It's like, oh yeah, that's right. My problems
have now begun again. And then I sit there, I publish
it, and next morning I wake up, and I'm like, ah, I hope
people have seen that, and they enjoyed it.
It was great. I think Flight
5 was one of the best edits I've ever made,
I think.
It was beautiful. I keep reposting it. It was a good 5 was one of the best edits I've ever made, I think. Elon loves that one.
It was beautiful.
I keep reposting.
It was a good flight.
It was such a good fucking flight, dude.
It was epic, man.
It was a beautiful flight.
It was excellent.
It truly was excellent.
Yeah, it was IFT5.
I still remember that.
Yeah, I pinned it up at the top so you can see it.
That was beautiful. that was a peak man
that was peak dude amazing it was an amazing launch and it wasn't a beautiful like edit
yeah i wasn't even hyped it was just great it was just perfect it's what it's what was needed you
know i would just like nvidia to stop whatever the hell they did
to their newest drivers that makes
all of my audio stuff go mad.
It completely fucked my computer.
The new set of...
Just downloaded their newest one. Hopefully it doesn't
screw me over.
I honestly would not update your NVIDIA
drivers until they fix whatever's wrong with it.
My GPU, I'm getting... what are they called, artifacts now?
Really?
Yeah, I had to switch PCIe slots, and then it started happening again.
And, like, I've run diagnostics on the card.
I've plugged the card into a buddy's computer.
The card's fine.
But, like, it's just been giving me so much issues
and and then like on top of it it did something where it fucked with my windows settings and
i'm pretty sure i'm gonna have to like just reinstall windows
um because it is like i'm just having having so many issues with it.
Get LTSC, bro.
You're talking about the Enterprise Edition,
right? Yes.
I don't think that you can
do that unless you have an Enterprise account.
I'm not going to pay for that.
I mean, you can get yourself the trial version of it.
Oh, yeah.
It's good for 90 days.
I'm using it.
It's pretty good.
No, but I'm just pissed off about the NVIDIA drivers.
That's weird. It's messing with your Windows
registry or something.
The Enterprise version
is actually worse for gaming, by the way.
It's lighter, though.
It has added features that affect
the virtualization on the hardware
in a weird way that affects the frames per second.
When we were doing A and B testing at Activision, in general, for all games, you'd see a good 10-15% reduction in frame rate if you were running on Enterprise and still have personal.
Bruh.
That was back on Windows 10.
May have changed in Windows 11. I don't know.
I haven't tested it on Windows 11.
But for Windows 10, that was true.
Yeah, I'm still on Windows 10.
I like it. I don't know.
I haven't seen it.
Interesting.
Yeah, Windows 10. That was pretty good.
I prefer Windows 10, to be honest.
Just because of what they did with the right-click menu.
The more options thing pisses me off so much
because I do so much stuff with right-clicking
because I'm so used to using it for things
that having it moved always adds a good two, three seconds to the process
where I'm like, all right, where is it?
I scan all the options.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Dude, I was so confused the first time I used it. I was like, yeah, exactly. Yep.
Dude, I was so confused the first time I used it.
I was like, okay, let me just right-click real quick and get this thing done.
And I'm like, what the fuck?
Where's the thing?
I was so confused.
I was like, did I click the wrong thing?
I click it again.
It's like, oh, no, still the same stuff.
What the fuck is this?
And then I scroll through it, and then I'm like,
oh, tiny little windows.
What's this? Oh,
that's where the stuff is that I'm looking
for. Okay.
They have a whole button for
see more options and then it goes from the
new version to the old version.
What was wrong with the old version,
Microsoft?
But I understand I'm
not your typical user.
I do some stuff on computers that people don't do.
And as such, for some people, it might be helpful to have these things hidden.
For me, however, go fuck yourself.
I still remember when I was playing Diablo, it was a funny thing,
because of the way, you know,
when there's, like, right-click setup,
I would keep making new folders
on my, like, desktop.
So I'd be playing, I'd be playing the game,
and constantly, because I'm, like, you know,
right-clicking in circles
to, like, get the
abilities off, what would happen is sometimes,
because I'm playing windowed mode,
I'd click outside of that for some fucking reason,
even though I'm clearly controlling in windowed,
but that's whatever, you know.
Anyways, I click outside of that for some reason
and then that just completely breaks everything
and I create a new folder.
That's hilarious.
While we were like playing with Elon,
I created like 15 folders, bro.
It was crazy.
You're clicking like crazy,
I bet. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't do macros. Like, I understand using macros makes a lot of
sense. It's actually more logical. I just wanted to see if I could do it. You know, like, you don't
have to do any of those things. I just want to know if I can do it. I just need to prove this
to myself. That's, that's like the problem, right? It's not logical, but it also kind of is in some
ways, right? It's rational to want to understand what your limits are and i know what my limits are
my limit my limits are top 10 diablo that's that's my limit like i can't go higher than that
not on hardcore that's that that was that was my limit i think yeah that was that was fun yes
pretty pretty good for like worldwide i think. That was pretty cool. That's fucking amazing.
I think it's a real shame that your introduction to Diablo was Diablo 4.
It's by and far the worst entry in the series.
I don't know about the other series, but yeah, I would agree that that is a pretty bad entry. I will say that much, because that's all I know.
We've been playing
POE 2. I'm just playing through it. I'm like,
this is nice, but it's not Diablo 3
nice.
Yeah, I probably would have enjoyed Diablo 3
to be honest.
I do like Path of Exile. It's really nice. Decent
coloring. Everything is pretty neat.
The game is very, very unstable,
but it's pretty nice.
Game is very, very unstable, but it's pretty nice. Game is very, very unstable.
But that's alright.
It's not as unstable as Halo is in some ways.
By the way, funny thing that I've noticed.
You know when you keep the game open, like Halo, the performance of it degradates over time?
Yep.
The same stuff is actually also happening with the latest Latest
What was a borderlands as well? I recently saw a thing about it where people saying oh by the way
Did you know that this is the thing that happens? I've never seen this in a game before I'm like actually that is funny
I've seen that in one game before
It happens and it's crazy like you'd be every time you progress to admission
If you don't like you know if you don't close the game every like 30 seconds or something
Sorry 30 minutes or something what ends up happening is that your
frame rate goes down significantly like you'd be progressing through a mission at like 30 frames a
second i just remember seeing the tweet where randy pitchford was like why don't you guys try
building your own engine and everybody was like yeah it's just cope and i'm like no no in the
modern day and age that is pretty, it is extremely difficult to do
because you have to coordinate
with the GPU vendors
for all of their drivers
and for all of their hardware stuff.
And because so much of it
has moved to pre-existing engines
like Unity and Unreal Engine,
the amount of support
that you're capable of getting
is much lower than it was
back in the day.
So setting out to make an engine in this day
and age for a specific game is a much
it's a monumentally
harder task than it was just 10
years ago. And that's
why our games perform shittier today than they
did back then.
It's not even necessarily
developers that are incompetent.
And that's unfortunate.
I don't think we should be bashing people
for making their own engines.
I think we should collectively
kind of accept the fact that there are going to be
growing pains involved with that, and if we
want new tech, we kind of have to
struggle through that.
Mm-hmm. Or
you can build it yourself.
Good luck! Have fun,
kids.
It's like with FFmpeg, you know?
People go, oh, FFmpeg, so shit.
And I love whoever's running the FFmpeg account.
They comment under whoever's saying FFmpeg run like shit and go,
well, can you build an alternative, please?
Called them out, yeah.
It's like, hey, how about you make an alternative?
And then they go like, oh, we're definitely going to do that.
Looks into making alternative and goes, fuck.
That's right.
The intern just beat your ass.
That's correct.
Everybody does it at some point.
They go, hey, FFMPEG like shit, let me just go back up on the hate.
And then the FFMPEG account finds your ass and goes,
hey, why don't you make a better alternative?
You say, how difficult can it be?
And then you figure out how difficult it really is.
And then you go, I'm sorry.
And then you delete all your hate posts.
And pretend it never happens.
And then if somebody has a problem with you when you go viral next time,
they will bring out that post and go, hey, this is this guy.
And then you get shamed for your FFmpeg opinions.
This is a real thing, by the way.
Even on-the-fly video encoding is very hard to do.
FFmpeg does an excellent job to it in comparison to other things,
but if you're trying to do that on your own,
it is very very
difficult and coming anywhere close to ffmfags implementation best of fucking luck kids best of
luck that's all i can say not to like pretty much there's these encryption or encoding algorithms
that save space on the file size.
You have the audio and video sync, which is a whole thing that you have to deal with.
There's so many moving parts and data streams that you have to deal with trying to do it on your own with a simple implementation these days without using any pre-existing encoding system is nigh impossible
that's where the fun stuff starts never again i don't want to have to do that ever again
if it's all possible right hardware encoding things to minimize the GPU usage on video
encoding so that it wouldn't interfere with our scripts.
And all that stuff, it was a nightmare.
It's the one thing that if you told me to do it again,
I'd be like, no, no, I'm good.
I'm just going to use FFmpeg.
Wait, so you actually tried to go against the FFmpeg thing
thinking that it was going to be better.
Well, yeah, I had to find a way to reduce our CPU consumption.
And doing it through the Windows Media Foundation was possible.
And it did wind up saving a lot of CPU and GPU resources.
But the amount of time and effort I put into it was not worth it in the long run.
We could have optimized FFmpeg much quicker than the route I took.
It wasn't something I should have done looking back on it.
I was too optimistic, I think, in what I was going for.
And yes, it is something I have done, and I would not recommend it.
Nice. Software beats the man the only reason it was faster was because i gave it driver level implementation i had basically created a driver for a virtual device just for encoding
that's what it wound up being and never again that just might be my personal hatred of hardware
programming because it's it's math it's a lot of math i don't wanna
elliott can you build us like uh something where we can replace ffmpeg
yeah go elliot that Ask the math guy.
Hey, you talk about math a lot.
Here you go.
I want you to turn those other squiggles
into these squiggles for us.
Speak English.
I don't know.
Don't tell that to me.
Tell it to the math.
By the way, you may or may not be using,
you may or may not be required to use
various types of hallucinogens
that may or may not help you
with turning the math into stuff that speaks.
It's like, hey, math, please stop speaking.
It's like, well, it's going to start speaking, but it's just going to be you.
You think that that's the math, but it technically isn't, but also technically is.
Good luck.
Coding on hallucinogens is not a productive way to code, in my experience.
You get very distracted
by a lot of things.
It's like what everybody does here.
This is propaganda.
You need to drink just the right amount of vodka
to be in an ultimate vibe-coding state.
Yeah, vibe-coding is not necessarily
actual coding, is it?
The trick is not taking too much
or taking too much.
You will get the most done ever.
No one can compete.
I am terrible at coding when I'm drunk.
Like, I will look at it
the next day and be like,
what the fuck was past me thinking?
No, you do the first layer
while you're drunk, and then you go back
and edit it sober.
Or just do the whole thing drunk.
Or do the whole thing sober.
Seems to work out pretty well for me.
Yep, everything is better
when you do it sober, including
social interactions.
The best I ever...
Social interactions are way better when you're not drunk.
It's because you will have better security
driving
like I'm serious
I'm actually serious
I'd rather social
socialize off the
alcohol than on it
actually that's like
always my entire thing
I try to drink as
little as possible
at any place that
consumes a ton of
alcohol
and I always am the
designated driver
because that's my excuse.
Not that you can socially pressure me into anything.
I'm just going to use that because I want to save time.
Because I'm like, okay, you know what?
I know this is very cognitively unacceptable
for a lot of people to hear the words,
oh, I don't drink.
And then you spend like 10, 20 minutes convincing them
or if you're really good at it, maybe five minutes.
And I just don't really want to do that.
I don't want to make this a whole intellectual exercise.
Because by the time I'm finished, your brain is just going to be like, I want even more drinks now.
So I'm just going to continue on with the thing that we're doing.
And just take an easy route out.
Yeah, designate driving is the easiest way to not have people pressure you about drinking.
Or just so you have a medical problem.
That works too.
But that's a lie. so it's like, eh.
There's another excuse, too, that works.
You're going to say you're allergic to alcohol.
I can't say her.
What's the other excuse?
Oh, maybe that's...
If you're a...
Never mind.
Adrian. Um, if you're a Never mind Adrian There's another excuse, I am gay
I left ways
If you're a girl you could say that you're pregnant
But that doesn't always
No, another one
Hey guys, I just want to let you know
I'm not going to be drinking any alcohol today because I'm pregnant
Adrian's pregnant.
He can't have a drink.
Exactly.
He's pregnant with some bangers.
Yeah, I'm pregnant with these thoughts in my brain.
You get mad emoji.
He's pregnant with a tapeworm.
Wow.
Damn.
You know, damn, bro.
Damn.
Wow.
It works?
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm going to run an experiment today.
So yesterday, trying to implement distributed training
for this new architecture.
There's so many bad jokes in my head now
because of what you said.
Holy fuck, have I said this?
Oh my God.
Architecture.
So today I'm going to do an experiment
where I try to implement distributed training
for a new architecture whilst not sober.
It's going to go well.
Anything but going to therapy, huh?
Bro, I will write a compiler from scratch before I go to therapy.
Good man.
Do it.
Good man.
Good man.
Good man.
He's pretty gay.
Good man. Temple OS. Good man. He's pretty gay. Good man.
Temple OS maxing.
Yeah.
The best therapy is either very technical stuff, very hard physical work, or simply just going outside during the night with no light pollution and looking up at the stars, just seeing all the batteries floating around in the sky.
What?
Do you don't see the batteries?
Every single star is a battery.
Those are not black.
What?
You said black batteries.
No, I said batteries.
You said black batteries.
He said black batteries, didn't he?
I believe he did say black batteries.
I heard black batteries.
You said black batteries. That's what I was like, what?
No, maybe batteries in the black sky or something.
Forgive him, he already started coding today.
Adrian, forgive me, please.
This is funny.
The guy who said he didn't say black batteries
who said black batteries is saying you should, in fact,
be drunk when you're vibe coding.
What does this mean?
What does he mean by this yeah
pretty much is what's happening here yeah
intellectual ascension here's some intellectual ascension. I'm like drinking very, very amazingly colored blue liquid that again is just it tastes so interesting.
The methylene blue?
You pee blue now.
It's like this bittery taste that it does to water. Really cool.
I've taken it as like troaks, like the little like lozenge things. So it doesn't get your whole mouth blue and you like try to I mean it stains your tongue a little bit but you
still pee blue. It's diluted in a liter
of water it's like not gonna get
you blue. I've done like the
tincture thing in my mouth and it turned my
whole mouth and teeth blue so bad.
Nice.
It was nice but
it wasn't. Look
in the Victorian era what they would do in order
to make their laundry even brighter
is they would add a little bit of blue to it, just a tiny little bit.
It's true.
Man, this stuff tastes pretty good.
If you can convince your body that it's good, everything that is,
what you convince your body of as good, then crack to you.
This is how you reverse engineer convincing yourself to do things.
You just convince yourself that whatever it is that you want to do
that's otherwise uncomfortable is extremely good for you,
and then you will be addicted to it.
Interesting. Like, how do you will be addicted to it. Interesting.
Like, how do you think sex works?
It's literally the same thing.
Except that there are a lot of physical parts to it,
which definitely add to the reward part of it.
But even the anticipation of the reward
makes the whole thing feel even better,
the psychology of that applies to literally everything else.
You can do the same thing.
It's like exercising, you know?
It's the same thing.
It's like if you really know that that is good for you and your body is convinced of it,
you will be addicted to doing it.
You will be addicted to that feeling that you get
when every part of your body
is now firm.
And I do mean every part of your body, because that's what a good health
does for you. And then you just feel
this urge to put a massive hole through a wall
because you feel that good.
I get that.
Are you using your hands or the
other firm thing
to put the hole in the wall?
It depends on how I feel on that day
to be honest.
Look, maybe I like the wall this time.
Maybe I really like the wall.
That wall's looking cute.
That wall is not safe, okay?
No, son, you don't like the wall.
Come back here.
Is that what the movie
Wally was about?
Wow.
Is that what we're calling it now?
Is that
the furries for walls?
Are they Wallys?
Exactly, yes.
How did we end up here?
I don't know.
You have to figure that one out for yourself, Elliot.
You can't just do things.
Yes.
Yes.
Have a little follow-through, man.
Of all times.
Emoji spamming. the temptation is
the temptation is highest
the temptation for me to speak about these things
in such a humorous manner
that is not necessarily the most ethical
is like greatest whenever I am in a
state of thinking about religion
like Christianity for instance
I've been thinking a lot about Christianity
there's an alert on Discord.
I did. I resolved it.
I think a lot about Christianity.
Actually, like...
Bro, what the fuck is this?
What?
No, are you seeing that?
Yeah, I'm dealing with it.
If he continues talking about cocaine, I'm going to ban his ass.
Wow.
Is it Dr. Raxo, the rock and roll clown?
But I'll bat him too.
We don't even see this.
What is happening?
I think if Dr. Roxo appeared in the Discord server,
we'd all be okay with that.
It's okay, guys. He doesn't do cocaine.
He just likes how it smells.
Amazing. It smells like numbing
it smells like numbing
it smells like irresponsible urges
it actually kind of smells like chemical
and numbing urges. It actually kind of smells like chemical.
And gasoline.
Is that because it's impure or is that what
it's supposed to smell like?
I think that's just kind of what it smells
like.
Interesting.
What do you define as chemical?
What is your definition of chemical?
Have you ever chewed an aspirin?
Actually, I've gotten close to it.
Like an aspirin
from which company?
Exadrin.
That's ibuprofen.
Panadol is the same?
Do you like the Panadol manufacturing?
I don't know what Panadol is.
They also manufacture the same ones.
There's two ways that they make it.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
We're not going to go into the making part.
I mean, if you can skip to the end part of that, yeah, I guess.
Yeah, so they basically use diesel real early in the process,
and that diesel carries through.
And then the other way, they use other industrial chemicals but they don't bother to take them out because why are you going to make
your product way less um before they sell it and then so like you're getting trace chemicals from
the actual extraction process from the leaf and that's what you're tasting trace chemicals from the actual extraction process
from the leaf.
And that's what you're tasting.
In theory, the pure chemical
shouldn't have a taste at all.
You can just get the leaves
and chew on them.
No, no, no, no.
I'm not recommending it.
I'm just saying that's what people used to do.
They still do it.
If you go to Peru, like when you go like.
They still do it when you travel over higher altitudes
because cocaine stops you from getting altitude sickness.
Yeah, my friend was just in Peru and they still do it there.
I bet that's why she went there.
No, no, she didn't.
That's not why she went at all.
But yeah, she was just telling me that it's like crazy.
A lot of people just do it there.
They just chew on the leaves.
Same thing's done with kratom.
What is that?
It's kind of like an opioid, but not quite as much.
It's an alkaline.
It's made out of kratom.
It's a plant.
It's a plant?
Interesting.
What does it look like?
It's a tree.
What part of a plant?
Is it its leafy?
Yeah, the leaves.
It actually grows pretty tall.
Hey, leafy's a category of tree.
They'll grow up to like six or seven feet
and they have these big, massive leaves.
Interesting.
So what part do they use?
The leaves or the bark or whatever comes out of the tree itself?
The leaves.
Yeah.
And it's like green tea, how the real small ones that are just popping up are the higher quality ones.
So they eat the tips, basically.
So it's like they eat the...
Okay.
Poor tree.
It's a stimulant.
I mean, there's different strain and some are
stimulant some are for sleep
hey that's
what the tree gets for having those chemicals
on it
I mean it's like how
it's like how
peppers
yeah it's like peppers, chilies
it's like hey god can I have a defense mechanism for predators?
Yes.
Cavemen go, oh my god, so hard, amazing, must keep killing us.
It's true, though, it's really cool.
It probably solidified that plant's survival a lot more than pretty much any other defense mechanism, though. It's really cool. It probably solidified that plant's survival
a lot more than pretty much any other defense mechanism, really.
It's the fact that humans go to it and say,
ow, this hurt, I like,
and then plants a ton of it everywhere.
Yeah, it seems to be the easiest.
It's the best winning strategy on the server.
Befriend the humans.
Yep. Yep.
Same thing with all the food increase, you know?
Then we have shit like lemons.
Like, we just made that shit.
That's what happened. We were like,
we want more of the citrusy, burny stuff.
Come here, you.
You like acids. Make it.
Have you ever had a wild lemon?
Yes.
I have. They're so fucking good.
I don't know why they do whatever they do to the non-wild ones.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, yeah.
I went to Italy, and I had one of those big, and they're big too,
I had one of those big lemons, and it was such an aromatic, delicious,
big lemons, and it was such an
aromatic, delicious,
like, citrus,
what it smells like, but
somehow nicer and
more fragrant. That is what that
tasted like, and I loved it.
It was beautiful.
Where I'm from, we have, we call
them valley lemons, but it's a
green lemon. They're
pretty good, too. It's a
very unique flavor.
Well, that one that I had was just yellow, and
we ate it like an apple.
Yeah, yeah. That's
one of those ones that's
wild.
Finger lemons
are from
Fiji, I think. I don't know
if you've had those.
Not really. Are they? No. from Fiji, I think. I don't know if you've had those. Not
really.
Are they? No.
I don't think so.
They're like
an inch and a half long.
They're real near.
I know what a finger line is. Hang on. Let me check where it's actually
from.
Close from
Queensland.
But yeah, subtropical
coastal areas. Yeah.
Yeah. Kind of lines up.
I'm American. All that area
American, all that area is
is the same to me.
the same to me.
It's like whenever you have a friend who's out of the general
Middle Eastern region,
and they say, oh yeah, you and your Arabs.
And he's like, I'm not an Arab.
You're all Arabs to me, bro.
We say that to each other as jokes.
It's like you and your other gay people.
I'm like, I'm not gay.
It's like you're German.
Okay, fair enough.
Everybody is Chinese.
Fuck.
Can I keep roasting each other on that?
Because we think it's funny.
The best friend group playfully roasts each other other it's like fake insults all the time
you know that's the best one bunch of fake insults constantly you know
like somebody goes in i was like what are you talking like is there's a whole thing and we're talking about somebody else's like financial fuck up and i come into the conversation and i was like oh hey what's up well hey what's happening here uh this guy has gayed
himself i'm like how does that work explains me the thing i'm like oh wow hey why are you
back up damn it i'm trying to, but I can't laugh without coughing.
I, like, could not teach the end of the yoga class. My voice was, like, gone.
If you were a guy, if you were a guy, if you were a guy, I would tell you right now, your voice is always gone.
Really?
Yes.
Why? Only if I was a guy? Not because I'm taking it seriously.
That's your problem.
You cannot be treated like a guy, ever.
Do you understand?
Did you miss what I said about fake insults?
Yes.
There you go.
That's your problem.
It's like that meme where the dudes are just roasting each other,
and then the dude leaves, and they're like, man, I love that guy. And then the dudes are just roasting each other and then like the dude leaves and they're like
Man, I love that guy and then the girls are all kind and when one of them leaves
They start talking shit about him. I hate that bitch. Yeah
I roasted Elliot and he took it seriously
I don't think he did
Elliot, did you take it seriously?
He just says shit
Who did it? What did you say? I roasted you, I think, and you take it seriously? You just said shit.
What did you say?
I roasted you, I think, and you took it seriously.
No one does, except you.
What was the road?
If you have to ask,
then maybe one of you is wrong.
Which one?
Elliot, you tell him. I don't know, which one
Bruh, no help, why are you like this?
Because I cannot remember
What?
Okay
What did you say to me?
you say to me?
There was a few,
There was a few, but one of them
but one of them.
I don't think he took it
seriously if he doesn't even remember it.
Yeah, he can't even think of it.
Yeah, okay.
So now what?
Nothing.
I don't know.
You're back.
So now I challenge you to a
lawful duel it's like what are we dealing with? Oh, fuck. I'm sorry. I have so many bad jokes in my head.
No, no, no, no, no.
That was not the sword fight that I thought of.
Look, my neurons just alter complete into places sometimes, okay?
There's a lot of stuff that we still need to work on.
Not gonna lie.
I want to, like, clean...
I want to kind of clean my brain in some ways.
And speak in ways that actually are good, right?
I think today's show was kind of an example of exactly that as execution on it.
I was like thinking about it and I was like, hey, man, we need to bring the quality back into the conversation.
We need to bring back what the actual conversation is because that's been like the thing that I've always done.
And that's the thing that people love the show for.
And that's the thing that I'm going to keep doing.
So, yeah, let's bring that
back because I still remember the only reason why the conversation even became a thing was because
of the fact that randomly one day I just decided to start ranting uh this was roughly about the
same time uh this was like I still remember when I like first started it was just like a space that
I began and there was some sort of thing that I was speaking about.
I have no idea what it was, but it was something controversial, which, you know, involved something that was happening on Rumble or something.
And one of the people who worked with Rumble actually like reposted the space.
And a lot of people came in.
So I was like, OK, you know what?
Fuck it.
I'm going to give an all out performance here and we're going to keep going.
And I just kept ranting.
Everybody enjoyed that shit so much.
I was like, hey, man, that's actually pretty good.
Let me just do a follow up space right after that. And then I shit so much. I was like, hey, man, that's actually pretty good. Let me just do a follow-up space right after that.
And then I did that.
And it was really, really good.
We sat there and we had a whole bunch of fun.
People joined in.
It just kept growing day by day.
People wondering, what is this guy?
Who is this guy who runs the conversation?
This is really interesting.
And so I looked back at that and said, we got to bring that shit back.
We got to make sure that we have the 100% again.
Because I kind of saw how it wasn't really the case for that
or some of the other conversations.
So we kind of bring back the quality again.
So yeah, we are in fact so back, and that's what I'm doing here
because, again, that's the show.
So yeah, that's neat.
Besides, I'm kind of like solo running in some ways.
I'm like the primary speaker. That's usually how it works.
The entertaining riffs is where it seems to be at. So, yeah, we are so back on that front.
Speaking of riffs and being so back on that front, I will be doing a stream right after this.
And, yes, it's going to be a lot of fun.
We're going to be streaming some Path of Exile 2.
We're going to be streaming it here on X.
So if you're subscribed, I will enable a chat for subscribers only this time around.
Because I want to bring value to those who have at least subscribed on X.
I will also be in the Advancement Order section of the Discord server.
I'll just be chilling and doing that whole thing.
Because that's what I use for communication with Blies while I'm
playing the game. Vira's going to be making music,
I think, while I'm doing the
stream. And then,
yeah, an edit will be
coming out soon.
And that's going to be pretty cool.
We're going to have a whole thing.
If my cat lets me get up anyway
I laid down a little bit ago
and I'm just covered in cats
that's what happened
you got both of them
they're like apprehensive about each other
which is cute
you're trying to say something.
We're going to do hands here.
Yeah.
What do you think this is, a democracy, bro?
Sorry, I have the talking stick.
What was the
roast again?
Forget about it.
It's on the group chat.
I have the talking stick
There is no talking stick, there's only one stick
Mine, and it's attached to me
So it's not going anywhere
It's born in the wall
Exactly
There's only one stick
Is that why Call of Duty
They call it a wall bank?
Okay, that's enough internet.
Wallbang, headshot.
360 no-scub.
360 no-scub wallbang, headshot, yeah.
That's right.
This is a Mormon-related topic,
related topic, but I will not explain why.
but I will not explain why.
Anyways, I think it's time
for me to do the stream.
What do you guys think?
I think it's time for me to start doing it.
I think it's time.
I think that's a good place in the conversation.
It really is. Yeah, it really is.
Anyways, I will be posting
a schedule for the following space
that's going to come up again, same time, same place. Probably we're going to even do it with a bit of an earlier format as we did today. We'll see how it works out. But yeah, keep your eyes peeled for the set reminders thing on the timeline and any other posts that I'll be doing, including the one right after this, which is going to be a live stream. So yeah, we're going to be live here on YouTube and on Kik.
I'm going to be going into my Discord server where I do the voice communication while I'm playing the
video game. And yeah, we'll see you there. Edit may be coming out soon as well. Some custom-made
music. I hope you all like that. It's actually built for the whole thing. It's like actually
built for the edit this time time as opposed to how I usually
used to do it which is build the edit around the music although in some ways that has also
happened here because Vera had actually uh refined the video to sync more with the rhythm
so that's pretty cool as well so we actually have really good visuals for this. So yeah, it's going to look really cool.
Can't wait for it to be finished.
Right, I'm going to be going to Discord right now.
Link is up at the top as well for those of you who would like to join me.
It's right there.
And yeah, see you all on the stream in a few minutes.
Thank you all for coming.
Keep your eyes peeled for the set reminders thing.
Bye, thank you.
Goodbye.
Have a wonderful time.
