Hey yo, I accidentally removed myself, so give me a second.
He's removing himself from the stage, sounds like a lot like last week, where he'd fall
But yeah guys, welcome to the last show of the week.
I know you're going to miss this, so we'll make this a good one for you.
We run the space Tuesday through Saturday, today, 1030, you know, a little later.
But yeah, we'll probably run it for about 90 minutes for two hours and see how the conversation
But we appreciate you guys.
I was about to say, I'm just following the footsteps of the great Luca Nance, cause that
man was fucking everywhere.
Do you guys have like a, like a founder's group chat with all like the active founders
on Twitter, where you guys kind of like talking the side channels and stuff?
I feel like they're like in different chats, like all over the place, like there's no one
like web three, like there needs to be one.
I don't know if there's like competition, but you guys are like in a business.
Well, there's not a lot of resources on how to do stuff.
I think it would be beneficial for the whole space if you guys kind of like talk to each
other about like how to like operate in this space.
I think there's a lot to learn from each other personally.
I think that's a good shout.
We need to have that for sure.
I guess I'm going to just go through this basic account here and I'll post it.
Oh, so you can't get back in.
We have a sponsor star alert, so we got to get, we got to do the paperwork before we
So, and then, I mean, I don't know what English was telling you too.
I mean, appreciate you showing up bright and early, but very poor management on that end
because this is bright and early, star lord.
People getting coffee, bro.
You got to wait till, you know, it's established.
They know that the beats are hitting like you're here at the club and you're the first
dude in here and you're going to get mad that there ain't no shouties.
I mean, that's your problem though.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, we don't have to get, we don't have to get right into the conversation.
I think star learning is a bit of a degenerate.
Maybe we can talk about shit that's going on.
I'm actually going to make coffee while you guys are doing that.
So I'm just going to chill out and listen until, until I have been summoned, summoned,
I don't know what your time schedule is.
Today I'm actually chilling.
This is the only space I'm doing today.
Then I got work after that, obviously, but you guys, I'm just here to vibe with you
Actually founders, they like to come in here and like leave relatively quickly.
I was like, bro, stay around, man.
We can maybe you making like teach us something.
I mean, so I appreciate you staying up here and we'll, we'll get into the business here
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I guess we'll get into like what's going on Bitcoin and node monkeys hit all time high
in USD and Bitcoin price this morning.
It is sitting at point 32 around $16,000, which is kind of crazy if you think about
Just last week we were around $8,000.
So we pretty much two X the node monkeys floor is two X since this time last week.
So I don't know if it was Lenore or Lenore like in all his mutant hound collar friends,
but it definitely seems like we got a lot of sweeps going on on this node monkey collection
And it's a driven up the price pretty quickly.
So kind of crazy to look at the top collection market cap wise on on Bitcoin and only seen
that at a theory and price of 5.5 each mad lads are I think it's a hundred and sixty
seven soul mad lads are a hundred and ninety seven soul.
They're at 20 K, which would be about six point five each.
So just imagine Bitcoin is like I don't know how times the market cap of heat and I don't
know how many times the market and soul, but the top project is still would be considered
like a midship on aetherium.
So I like just see a lot of potential and like a lot of gains, especially in ordinals
It's kind of crazy to think that the top collection would only be five each on aetherium man.
So English, what's up, bro?
What's your new now that we broke all time high, what's your new short term prediction
You've been pretty spot on on this dude.
I've said it from the beginning that I thought it was I had all the price points and I told
Well, I had a phone call.
I was way back even after it dumped because of like like short term fud of like, oh, like
people don't like rock toshi and I don't know whatever caused the dip and just maybe a natural
retrace of things or maybe the short term BTC pumping and then people have to get used
to that before it starts pumping again.
My price points it was point four five.
I thought the natural value of of monkeys have been three to one for frogs even after
frogs flipped it for a little bit.
That's just what I look at it when I look at value and I tune out what the current market
I just look at the art, the provenance.
It has more mass appeal across, you know, to Ethereum and Solana people as opposed to
frogs that is only like BTC native.
And so it was just intuitive to me and then frogs hit point four five.
And so it just made a ton of sense to me.
And if you start putting that and I did use those comps I use like that Ethereum kind
of comp and I forgot what it was at the time, but it put it put it put at the time it put
them along with Pudgy when Pudgy was 10 ETH.
So I go it just makes sense and it makes it with like mad lads.
So if this is the 10 K PFP project that has mass appeal and feels like it's the one there's
no reason that it can't, you know, sit side by side.
Obviously Pudgy's had like airdrops and I guess so has no monkeys too, but exclusively
and there's other reasons that it's running.
But point four five was was my thing.
And I had said hoodies trade at two to one floor.
I think on punks they trade three to one.
So I wouldn't be surprised if in the future after people really start coveting these,
Will it retrace before that?
Probably just because it's had such a parabolic run.
But yeah, that sounds about right for me.
Yeah, I'd say 20 K short term.
We have to at least be even with mad lads like three, four, five chains down or three
Like if we can't be the top collection over mad lads, we still have some growing to do.
So I'd say 20 K or whatever that equates to Bitcoin by probably this time next week.
And I think we consolidate there until I don't know, until another parabolic move on Bitcoin,
Like, do you think it's Lenore and mutant hound collars?
What do you think is this?
So so I think I think there was a few things that started it.
So Lee or definitely helped there with the exposure to to like, you know, the you know,
big club or whatever, and the mutants and the caller people, all that good stuff.
So he definitely helped kick things off.
There was just a big consolidation period.
And I think seeing it just around those levels and a couple of collections started pumping.
And I noticed like, for instance, you know, quantum cats went down to point one six before
getting a big sweep up to point two, four.
And I saw that same thing happened point one, four, five with with node monkeys, and then
it went to point one eight.
So what I noticed is that all the other collections that had like that pump during that week,
they started to like retrace, you know, just slightly maybe five percent, three percent.
And I saw node monkeys go to point one nine and I saw strings.
And then the first rare sold and it happened to be like an alien, which trades like at
So I think between the exposure from the the board ape community and that really rare sale,
I think that that started momentum.
And when you have NFTs that trade with heavy momentum either way, whether it's going up
or down, people just start losing their mind.
And the same reason that you saw the parabolic run before the FUD is the same reason that
Yeah, I was listening to your guys show yesterday and you had a lady come up there and basically
was talking about how she's getting whales, the sweet node monkeys.
And now it's kind of like shocking to me that there's like this whole community of like
Chinese, I don't know, they're guilds or whatever.
But like this woman said that she bought like four or five board apes at the top.
And then she said she swept like two hundred no monkeys went around point five in the very
beginning and she was like doing convincing to other whales to sweep recently and shit.
No, no, it wasn't that that she swept two hundred.
It was that a whale decided to to throw a six point six BTC bid and ended up getting
two hundred node monkeys during the Dutch auction and that she missed out.
So she swept like at point zero four in the beginning.
But here's the thing that like, even with with like Bitcoin shrooms, I know like a lot
of the people that are buying them just because like either I talked to Daza or they tweet
on the like on the timeline and I see what they are and they're like punk people, spirit
And once you start having those people and like those circles and then they show it to
their friends, you know, people just lose their mind.
And because Bitcoin shrooms and node monkeys make sense to these people just by looking
at it because it's like what they're used to in terms of like trades, in terms of like
provenance, whatever they look at it, they're like, yeah, I get this.
There's gold for like I understand this and it's not it's not a hard sell to them.
I see like kind of a correlation to this.
Sorry, I was getting distracted.
The correlation to last Saturday in this liquidity seemed to come around Sunday or Monday of
And I kind of the flippening that happened board apes and this kind of mishmash of what's
And do you I mean, is this a thing where we always think that this is going to be just
Because I feel like a lot of board apes that are coming here are like, dude, I need this
is that I want to, you know, maximize my return.
I want to get something that has no execution risk where I don't have to deal with founders.
I don't have to deal with someone trying to build a game.
I just want this to be clearly art.
What do you what do we think the chances of that?
No Toshi or rock Toshi is where you want to call them, but comes out and does something
for or does something for like the no monkeys, drop a room, drop some runes or drop a secondary
Is there any chance of that?
Well, those are two different things.
Like I think there's a point zero one percent chance that there's anything like utility.
But I think dropping a rune or dropping like, you know, some other kind of maybe second
I don't really consider that a utility play.
That just happens to be an extension of like the ecosystem from like an art providence
I think once you start saying like, I want a metaverse or I'm going to start doing like
events or I'm going to start making like a clothing brand or I'm going to make a movie
I think that's when you start getting once you start getting like a revenues like, OK,
I'm going to make this into a business and there's going to be revenue streams.
And there's you can like look at accounts and you could look at how well those actual
like deliverables are received.
That's when you start getting into utility.
But I don't really consider a rune or a second collection.
And I would even say a second a second collection is unlikely.
Like these people raised like millions of dollars on the mint.
They still have a thousand to their name.
They own other sub one hundred thousand K collections.
I think they're just going to go with like whatever's next, right?
So maybe they do a rune tied to it.
Maybe they do some other thing.
But everything I know about Roktoshi and these people, you know, they're into OG shit.
They're into provenance, but they're always like one step ahead, you know, so like they're
going to move on to the next thing.
I think they have zero interest in doing anything that's anything deliverable type thing.
I mean, that's what I've been kind of saying that the idea behind this is no monks is done.
It was done the minute the auction completed.
And that was what you know, if you're into actual digital artifacts, that's what you
I mean, I bought the golden plate.
The fuck else do you have to say about my golden plate that I own?
That's nice that you're dropping a new line of golden plates.
If I get first access to that, cool.
But if I like this golden plate, I'll go get the new ones.
So I think that's always been very evident about how just rocks moved and that idea of
being a actual cypherpunk of permission lists of I mean, he will add, in a sense, connections.
But I think it's connections to where you can say it's an indirect benefit from him
just happening to be at the forefront of something else, right?
Not necessarily connections to where he'll say, hey, this is an exact thank you for owning
He's like, yo, I happen to own this too.
And you know, we'll bless you up in some way, shape or form, but it's never going to be
Because in my opinion, that would just shatter not the persona, but just who he's made himself
to be in this space for such a long time.
Yeah, I just when, you know, we're talking to arcade and stuff, like, I assume that he
was just like, all right, this is art.
But like, in the background, he's working to provide value for this community.
So it's not like, hands off, I'm not doing shit.
He's actually trying to, you know, hook us up with collaborations with tokens.
And you know, we're on the list for our six.
So just like, this isn't completely hands off, like everybody thought he is actually,
you know, trying to work in the backgrounds to provide value, just like all the other
So that's kind of, that's kind of dope.
I think that's really interesting, though, that I mean, like, I would even want to not
to say that I doubt toast, but to that's 100% not in his MO, bro, to hit someone up and
say, hey, give benefit to my community, like, that's not in I don't know, that just doesn't
seem like the rock that I've known or the persona he's made.
So maybe someone spoke on behalf of node monkeys.
But to just think that rock is out there cold calling DMS is kind of wild to me.
He's definitely not I can tell you that much, dude, like, I've offered him like white list
And he's like, Yeah, I want to do it.
But I maybe I'll do an alpha server and like, he hasn't got around and he's like, he wants
But like, he's not like seeking kind of things like that.
Like, it's exactly what you said.
Yeah, that just seemed very unlike rock for him to be cold calling for shit, because everything
that we're trying to get he could do himself if he wanted to.
Yeah, and then we're kind of seeing like, you know, rooms is the new hot thing.
And we're kind of seeing kind of these VRC 20 is kind of pivot.
And Alex Bt announced yesterday that it looks like it says where my dogs at notifications
on it has a bunch of like that room descriptions, which is interesting.
So I don't know how we qualify, I guess, if you hold all XBT, they maybe get whitelisted
to the new rooms, are they just send rooms to you?
Like you mind them if you hold up, I don't know how they're gonna do this, but it looks
like Alex Bt is going to get into the rooms.
And what was interesting was the crowns, the alpha for the youth retweeted are they retweeted
or they posted it to but but in a black one.
And if you don't know, like there has been a community takeover and pokey is taken over
And it looks like maybe the crown youths are going to get an allocation to this because
they posted we own the yard and big bit dog and Alex Bt reposted that.
So if you do own a youth, or a D God, it looks like you might get an allocation to this room,
which kind of makes makes it seem like it's more of us like a an airdrop that are claimed
So I thought that was interesting.
You see more projects doing this?
This is this is interesting.
This is I kind of had an inkling that this was going to happen that like, BRCs are getting
And all the old projects that are getting volume are going to pivot into ruins because that's
I just don't get like, yeah, that ruins is the new hot thing.
But in my opinion, it's like, dude, if me and you were to drop a ruin and say we're
coming out with the room tomorrow.
What difference does that?
Why would why would English go by our ruins or trade our rooms like who are me and you?
And what kind of liquidity do we have to make that statement have any kind of staying power?
You know what I'm saying?
My general question to, oh, you know, a new project is coming out with ruins.
Who are you for me to assume that your IOU is better than the next man's IOU?
Because in a sense, we're in a room full of IOUs, right?
R6 is an IOU, Genesis ruins was an IOU, Leonidas is an IOU.
So all of these are IOUs for something that's to come in the future.
I just don't get how launching or pivoting to ruins in general makes any difference.
Because shit, if you want me and you are dropping a room tomorrow.
I mean, does it mean that people are going to go buy and trade whatever placeholder we
Because at the end of the day, like, what I mean, you putting 100 Bitcoin in, like,
you know what I'm saying?
And I just want to, you know, just wary and put words to caution for everyone that this
narrative is becoming popular.
But the vaporware giving you more vapor doesn't mean shit.
At the end of the day, you're holding nothing.
You know, so I'll give you my take.
And like, I don't say it on my show that much because I get a lot of pushback and and like
I've said it before, I'm not convinced that R6 is going to like everybody has much money.
Like it might like don't get me wrong.
Like I think if any of the if any of the ones that that people are pre mining will
do it, it's going to be R6 because there's so many like vested holders and, you know,
just the network effect, the mind share.
But the way I look at it is like, runes are going to be able to trade like ERC 20.
So it's logical to think that it'll have the same use cases, you know, maybe predominantly
meme coins, maybe some governance type stuff, maybe like some ecosystem plays with things
like for the right type of like gaming project.
But in the beginning, in the beginning, people are not going to really have that infrastructure.
So like, unless the idea was that if R6 could be the first rate, like initially, right,
this was the idea, then it doesn't really matter if it's funny or anything.
It's just like historic in the provenance.
And that's what everybody had.
Now we know it's not the first.
And so does it like are people going to think, OK, well, it was the first that was pre mined.
Because like it's not like a funny meme.
Like I heard some speculation that there'll be like, you know, a rune for the puppet ecosystem.
And that actually makes more sense to me from like an adoption standpoint, because you're
going to have all the memers with like the MOG glasses and, you know, the with hat and
all that stuff pumping it.
And so like what what it will take is I think everybody who bought initially, those are
the people that are mining it, but you still need by pressure on the outside.
So really, the only case for it, I think, is like there's a lot of people that might
not know runes or are not comfortable in ordinals.
And then it comes like post, you know, post having things get even crazier, silly season
And people that like faded ordinals even right now, because there is people that faded
ordinals like every single wave and even like node monkeys, the last pump.
And now they're like, oh, shit, let me get on this.
And then so maybe like people will buy into it.
But like, if it's just the ordinal MFers and the ETH MFers and Solana MFers are not necessarily
attracted to R6, then I think it might be a, you know, it might be it might be like
a hard a hard hill to climb.
You know, I think this was my biggest take.
I don't think that it's not going to make money.
I think it probably will.
But if everybody's looking for like that first big hit, like that first big thing that just
goes parabolic, whether that's like a with hat, a bonk, whatever the case.
And if you had to say, hey, English, do you pick what's currently out being pre-mined
I'm going to pick the field.
I think that the ruin that goes crazy, that goes parabolic doesn't exist and will probably
be made after that after the happening when the actual with when the actual ecosystem
is already fleshed out and people know what they want to buy and how they want to trade
Not only that, bro, once again, I mean, like this is no different than us seeing a brand
new Twitter page pop up with a contract address saying soon.
Like I want you guys to understand that that this is absolute.
We're using new fancier words because it's on Bitcoin, like runes and pre-mining and
But I need you to understand that borderline base, this is a new Twitter page with some
cool marketing saying, hey, launch in a month, launch in a week.
But now you can actually trade the shitcoin before the shitter goes live, which makes
Because then when the shitter goes live, you don't even got to worry about the first
candle and you don't even got to worry about liquidity.
You've been trading it right back and forth.
So just to set the bar, I know a lot of people are getting caught up in this and I'm just
as like, I don't know, someone who's been heavy into the space for a while, I'm starting
to see euphoria around literal vaporware of I could go and make an account tomorrow and
And I guarantee you a bunch of members would be like, please give me one.
It'd be me handing them sadness.
I'm not saying don't participate, but don't ape your portfolio.
Be cautious with your margins, with your risk, your R&R, especially if you're coming in late
A lot of these are airdropped to people versus you going and spending your own money to get
So that automatically puts everyone that received one at an upper leg.
So just setting the bar in the context so you guys can keep that in mind.
I don't think it's anything new that people go ballistic over vaporware.
It's a bunch of vaporware.
So this is just another version of it.
So I mean, lots of stuff has built nothing but have like look at Cardano.
Yeah, they have like two or three things and they've been building out for seven years,
but it's all marketing and it's like the top four coin in the fucking industry.
So a lot of this vaporware stuff, I mean, it's a narrative of be cautious, but also
half of the time it doesn't even matter.
People just speculate and people create narratives and price go up and then people are just like,
I don't give a fuck about the technology at all or the narrative.
Just I care about the green candles and then just people FOMO in and then they get wrecked.
It's gonna be interesting how it's all hashes it out and we'll see where it goes.
I mean, look, I look at everything, but I do like, especially agreeing with you guys.
It's always a question of like what and why and what's the use case and all that stuff.
But I don't know, to be honest.
I don't think that's something we're gonna just be like, hey guys, everybody's doing
But how about, you know, you guys are building a fortnight.
You can convert your Zcash into only one room.
I don't know if you can send them and then we'll convert them into our only one rooms.
I mean, I'm learning and that's why by the way, I'm loving this space is super helpful
to hear you guys talking about this.
So I'm always in learning mode first, you know, and then I kind of see how like how
people move and then think like, okay, is this good for our community long term?
I can say which is kind of like an alpha drop is that so for us, not only are we launching
our own like alpha channel for whole holders, but and we're going to be like aggressively
pursuing like token allocations and things like that.
But through OFR our ownership group, we actually got the green light to invest in tokens.
So I think this year you're going to see some parabolic shit happen and it's not even going
So I realized like, wait, why like make things harder for ourselves and drop a token when
we could just give community members other people's tokens.
So that is that's a big brain move, bro.
I mean, I've been saying it because it's like it's not associated with your your project.
So how can it dilute your price or like it doesn't that's the beauty of it, dude, you
can you can drop them every day.
Yeah, I mean, look, there is some you know, you got to be careful, you still got to bet
them and stuff like that.
But yeah, like our community would love it if we were dropping allocations left and right
and you get that benefit for being a holder, which you will.
I mean, then I don't think they're gonna come I wouldn't complain.
I think it's one of the most more genius moves that I've seen in this kind of uptick in the
bull market is like going approaching other companies and taking their tokens and leveraging
your own community build.
It's like it's fucking it's perfect.
But yeah, if runecks I mean, I think our everybody says R6 is the first one to do runes runecks
and we won't talk about why I mean, it is they they said something yesterday.
They were doing something never done before nothing not possible before runecks introducing
Use your BTC to order doordash uber eats and instacart directly through runecks order food
and earn runes and ordinals.
Here's everything you know, that's is that even is this a joke?
I mean, I don't know if I don't get food, then it's fake.
I don't get my McDonald's in 20 minutes.
I mean, Dante is going hard to trying to get people involved on the runecks and just really
solidifying his tech because that's one of the things that he does have over there is
that tech stack in that deck.
They've been cooking on it for over a year and slowly building out runecks early on with
the swapping and the escrow features.
So I think this is just one of the extra kind of bells and whistles that because you can
Yeah, I guess stake your Bitcoin without it actually leaving your wallet, right?
Just through your app through his runecks platform.
So maybe that could be a way that it can quote unquote offer you a utility like, yeah, you're
still staked, but you know, you can order doordash if you want.
Okay, here it is star loading.
Stake your only one force and earn our runes.
Stake your runes into Z, Z bucks for Fortnite or doordash.
There's your utility right there.
Oh, see that order kind of makes sense, right?
Like that makes that makes some sense to me.
So it sounds like I'm buying all of you guys pizza or something like that from Yeah, I'm
I'm going to take mine for only one room.
So I'm sorry about this dog freaking out on me, but I'm going to deliver this and well,
I mean, let's let's obviously let's get into the conversation.
Start already about what's going on with my back to the dog, Espresso, you do the same
I'm going to have to beat up Bongo for you, bro, Bongo, don't be coming around my man
trying to fucking, you know, get down on him because he got a bunch of people listening.
Um, he was really, I mean, he's a pretty cute dog, but the owner was looking out the window
at me like I was, I don't know.
Anyways, let's get into the AMA conversation with only one.
Appreciate star Lordy coming up here, chief and chief in English.
Why don't you guys start out with your questions since I'm kind of busy here.
So let's, let's, let's get this thing underway.
I mean, star Lordy, welcome to the TDA, man.
Appreciate you for signing through.
Also for, for setting this up.
We've been kind of hearing about it on the timeline for a while.
We talked about it briefly here on the show, just kind of when it first started going around
and you guys were making your rounds, but we always love to just kind of hear directly
on trajectory, plans, goals, how the, um, allocation is going to work out.
Really just hear it from the source if we can.
So if you just want to stay just yours, man.
Uh, I was switching from wifi to my, my cell service, so I missed the very first part of
Um, so just explaining the project and, and kind of like what we're all about.
Most of us kind of know what it is, but then in the sense for those that don't just, uh,
I would say a tale of the are on the east side and then just more of a, who you guys
are and why, why Bitcoin happy.
Happy to talk about that.
Uh, so just quick tale of the are only force is the original anime PFP project.
It literally started the anime meta in web three minted August, 2021, we're like a top
20 all time project, um, was first sideways PFP created the allow list was first to do
So very, very like kind of OG, um, the projects, you know, with the original founders flew
Like I think in 2021, it was like 70 floor or something.
And then, uh, when I came on as project manager, they had dropped from 70 to 0.2.
The original founders just weren't that good at operating and I think got in over their
Um, so I came in, kind of helped write the ship, found a buyer.
We exited to OFR, which is led by the ex CFO of Binance and the Binance labs team.
Um, and yeah, never since then we've just been rocking and rolling.
Basically we're just, you know, it's pretty simple, similar to the way pudgies is expanding
Like we're an IP brand, but we're more edgy.
We're more adult, um, you know, like we're not, not really for children.
Um, so we're expanding our IP through, uh, comic books, manga, webtoons, um, and then
gaming and that sort of stuff.
So, um, so really like we're going to have real quick start real quick.
Do you have a post that you want specifically to, so, so people can check out the ordinal
collection that's coming out so they can just have rough too.
Let me get the right post for that one while I'm talking.
Um, but we can just get that pinned up and then you guys can check it out because the
art actually does differ from what they have previously on East to Bitcoin.
So that way you guys can actually get a reference if you're just hearing by collection name.
Well, this also allows you to add a little bit more context to the Bitcoin side.
So basically long story short, you know, we're, we're in the, you know, IP expansion mode.
We're going to be in comic book stores all over the world.
So you'll be able to buy this year and only forest comic right next to a X-man or a Superman
And so that's going to be a huge moment for us.
And you know, we want to be like, when it comes to like, you know, storytelling, IP,
like the first like web three project to like really go big, um, and, uh, and yeah,
so we're working really hard on that.
We've got tons of great like talent and stuff like that, but, um, but with ordinals, it's
actually the journey started, um, a year ago.
So we actually inscribed our first seven ordinals in March of last year.
We're sitting at the 441 K mark, um, could have been even.
We could have been sub hundred K to be honest, but I, um, was trying to get the art and like
kind of the plans together and then things start shooting up really quick.
Uh, but, um, but really for me, like the initial thesis was very simple, you know, it's just
straight up art, you know, like when I learned how, uh, inscribing works or inscriptions
work, like I realized very like immediately, I was like, Oh, this is like gonna be a thing,
you know, like, because, you know, I, Bitcoin is the OG chain.
It's the first cryptocurrency I ever bought.
And so to me, it was like, well, like as long as crypto is here, Bitcoin should be here.
Um, and therefore like NFTs on Bitcoin sounds even more attractive to me than like on ETH,
mainly because what I realized when you inscribe on the Satoshi, it's like, that's the thing
we would give to a museum, right?
Like, or like auction off or something.
Like if we were to like, you know, go to dust and go to zero and the company fails and disappears.
Like if you wanted your art to live on chain forever, it would actually be, um, on Bitcoin
at this, at this point in my mind.
Um, also, I think the, the, the BTC is like a little bit more of a classy, as a classy
feel, it has more of like a high end collector's feel to me in terms of art.
Um, and then on top of that, when I looked into the technology, it's like clear that
like there's like really interesting things, um, that were being built that, um, the potential
was, was different than ETH.
Um, so for us, it just started off like inscribing our seven characters in March.
And those are actually the first seven characters that we're using in our comic books.
So like, if we're launching like a team book, which is like, like, let's say our X-Men,
like the seven main characters are the ones we inscribed in March.
Is that the same or do they come or are there duplicates of those seven on the ETH side
or are they a hundred percent, one of one, uh, they, they were actually handmade by the
artists like, um, in terms of putting the traits together because the original collection
obviously was created by algorithm.
But for this one, I told I with the, I'm complex, the original artists I would, and that's why
we didn't make it under a hundred K because we're sitting there talking about this stuff.
Like, and then we could do in the lore in this and we get to, and then we started kind
Um, but it's super cool because it's like, they're actually original characters.
Like you're going to see them, uh, like they were teased them out at comic-con last year.
You're going to see them in bookstores.
Someday somebody's got to have a chance to own these, um, for me as like a huge comic
book nerd, it's like, what's cooler than being able to own like the first drawing of Wolverine
And I think where we've evolved this is like, we're launching a storytelling platform where
it's like, it's not just like comic books and stuff, but it's like, actually the community
gets to decide what to do with this character development.
So with the fallen collection, which is our ordinals drop, we're launching kind of the
villains of the universe and, and it gives you a chance, whether you have the eat or
the ordinal collection to actually, um, after the mint, participate in our storytelling
platform where you can actually basically franchise your characters.
So you can either submit them to be developed by us or if you want to participate in the
platform and be more active, like you get to decide what happens with these characters
and, um, there's going to be like a really special, like kind of, um, end result for
participating in this next arc for all holders that do participate, which I don't want to
spoil, but, but it is like going to be the craziest like mass IP development experiment
like ever done so far in this space.
So you're going to do collectibles, obviously.
Are you guys partner with, uh, we box?
We're partnered with we box.
Um, met with the CEO in Korea when I was, oh, Japan, when I was traveling really, really
So we're partnered with them, but we're also talking with like actual big, like traditional
collectible type companies like sideshow and you know, other, other companies that,
that have done really high end.
The thing is our brand is more high end.
Like our, like for instance, when we dropped on eat, we were known as like the high art
PFP collection because it was like the first time like the art was like really, really
So, uh, I have pinned like a couple of like, um, PFP so you could see on our, uh, up here,
it's like, we're going front facing, they're like quote zombies, you know, um, but the
art style, I think, I mean, the art quality is like still really high and we want to like
anytime we partner with someone or do if we're doing collectibles or merch or whatever, it's
got to be like on the high end, I think.
So then in the actual Ordinals collection itself, if we're going to kind of transition
into that and just the metrics of it, how, how big is the collection?
Um, they're all recur, I mean, they're all, yeah, the seven.
The, the, the one of the, um, the first one we inscribed is going to be the parent for
Um, and we're probably going to have a different, uh, for each seven, we'll have like a different
thing like reason why we use it as a parent, but this one is tied to the very first inscription
So break it down like that way.
And then in terms of allocation, basically what we did was, you know, first we had to
take care of our existing holders, um, they were, who by the way, we're very supportive
of this move because in March last year I told our community we were doing ordinals,
which is kind of hilarious because it was a year ago, it was super early, like tons
of people who weren't holders said I was like stupid or something.
You know, they were like, why would you do that?
Like nobody cares about ordinals there.
They're going to go away, you know, that nonsense, but I had a lot of conviction, you know, because
I mean, I had a lot of conviction because I went to fucking NFTLA on a rooftop and party
and like announced to the world that this was like one of our big moves and, you know,
luckily our community was pretty supportive, actually.
So so basically what we did was like, we have this point system and if you're in the top
1000 of the point system and a holder, then you're guaranteed an allow list.
And then the rest of it has been allocated to different communities, especially the ordinals
community, which, which English has been huge, huge, huge help on because really the goal
here is to build a new community, be the first cross chain like experience in Web3
where you can participate in our IP and ecosystem, regardless of which chain you're on.
And then also bridge the gap where I feel like there's no, like, OG collection that's
like really going in and trying to like build in the ordinal space.
So we want to we want to actually bring our storytelling and innovation to to the space
and try to onboard more people into into ordinals as well.
I mean, the thing that I would add, you know, I guess, just from like, I guess going on
theme with this particular like show and like what it's about and like alpha and having
like, I just guess opportunities.
Like obviously I work with Star Lordy in there.
So like, you know, you can take my take as bias.
But really, like, if I didn't mean this, I wouldn't say it here on here.
Like one of the things that got me really excited and wanting to work with Star Lordy
outside of having a great conversation with them initially is that in a very different
but similar way, I think the value proposition from an art PFP on ordinals is very much
the same as node monkeys in the sense that I do think from like the Ethereum Solana
community side, there's a lack of PFPs that people would be willing to change their PFP
to that are not just so ordinal native, but still feels like part of that ecosystem.
And part of like the the appeal of node monkeys was that you saw like OMB and frogs already
kind of, you know, moon or whatever and like, OK, I don't have to buy somebody's bags to
And I think we'll see that to a similar extent with only like it already has a strong community
that's, you know, survived the bear.
That's like one narrative that people are like, OK, I'm bullish on projects that were
The community still existed and it's flourished, right?
Like under the new leadership, under the new ownership, it's flourished.
You know, Star Lordy had mentioned the IP but through a comic and making like the parallels
But he just missed the point that there is like revenue share through these comics kind
So it'll be like the first kind of like, I'm sorry, no, you're right.
Well, I'm just pointing out things that make sense to people from like an Ethereum narrative.
And when they'll see that and like, I mean, no, not to the OG collection, like art, I
But I think this is even better.
So like between like people on Ethereum that are ready, love only, they'll want to switch
to this people that are on in ordinals that I talk to all the time that are like pretty
But they're like, I want to get something.
I don't want to worry about it like the floor price tanking and buying the top.
I want something PFPable.
And so this is like just that opportunity, again, where people are going to be like,
hey, I would be proud to rock this.
I know the community already exists.
And as a digital identity, I don't mind putting this on.
You know, we saw Persona do, you know, fairly well.
I don't know how that's doing now.
Obviously, Azuki is still strong, the only community.
So like this anime thing is not going away.
And the forward facing just slaps.
So I think just from like outside of my personal affinity for like the project and like its
history and all that other stuff, just from like an opportunity standpoint, I think it's
a very asymmetrical opportunity given the mint price.
So the price for there's three tiers for the holders is point zero zero seven seven seven
The allow list, which is the majority of everybody is point zero zero nine eight.
And then the public sale, if it gets to that, would be point zero one six BTC, obviously.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, appreciate it.
And then I guess the fun, like I've heard, I mean, you've been doing the rounds.
So like when you acquired the project, you were left, you pretty much just acquired nothing.
They didn't give you the treasury to get anything.
The funds of this to like bootstrap and move forward with what's next with Oni, right?
Yeah, so so that was the that was the difficult part, to be honest, because so the original
founders left like actual zero.
Like I'm not even joking.
There was maybe twenty dollars left in or two hundred bucks something in the treasury
by the time the acquisition happened.
So you know, and then also to give you guys perspective, it's like what we had to deal
with last year was like in February, when we announced the acquisition, our floor price
shot up for a bit, settle on the higher price, but it shot up to like to eat or something
But I think we made like one hundred and fifty K royalties that month.
But I realized later, I was like, oh, shit, if Blur wasn't operating, we would have made
one point five million that month.
Right. Like that would have been like our entire runway for at least overhead.
But instead, we're like starting from zero and like grinding our way up.
And then every month after that, it's like the bear got worse and worse.
So it's like we're like just like hustling while we're the market was going down.
And so, you know, like we are a startup.
So like these funds are going to be used directly.
Like one hundred percent of it is going to just developing the project and building the
software and paying the team that we need and stuff.
But and I do feel like the pricing is pretty fair.
I think we settled on pricing even when Bitcoin was even lower, to be honest.
Like so for us, it's like playing the long game.
It's like more about community.
Like I'd rather have people get it for a fair price.
And then if we do our job, they can look back and be like, oh, yeah, this was like really
worth it, you know, as opposed to like this pressure of like kind of overhyping it and
then trying to use our name to like charge more or something like that.
And then having to like answer to that, like I felt that was the wrong wrong move.
Yeah, you want to get to that.
But you just mentioned something that I guess is a fundamental difference in Bitcoin than
it is on, I guess, any other chain.
And it's this idea of royalties and just the extension of anything more than a digital
I mean, anything else you want to layer on top of that is you layering it on top of,
but it's not necessarily Bitcoin anymore.
And so with that being said, what what's going to change or what is then the continuation,
therefore, of revenue or sustainability for the company?
I know that you mentioned the comics in that sense don't really make much money.
That's more for IP expansion and for us to be able to adapt it into other.
Yeah, I didn't want to say that.
So that's kind of why I'm very blunt because I have to be because like I like even before
the bear market hit, I knew royalties were going to go away because as soon as any marketplace
flirts with like, you know, zero royalties or whatever, I was like, oh, well, clearly
the market's going to speak.
So even before the market hit, I was like, OK, we need to get ready.
So we actually have a bunch of other revenue opportunities that are going to be coming
in from number one, we're building in UAFN, which if you do well in there, like the revenue
is actually like could be huge.
And that would go to the holders, like in terms of the point system and stuff.
Number two, because of our with our investment group, we're getting access to deals as a
Like I said, mentioned like tokens and other projects and things.
So actually, like you're going to see Oniforce become a company that also will bring in revenue
from other web resources.
Yeah, you mentioned that early on that you guys have got the green light tax.
You start kind of investing and taking advantage of some of these brand deals, right?
And then just doing everything else we can, you know, we have a lot of brands, especially
in Japan, because they opened up Web3 and crypto and AI, they're going all in like every
corporation over there is starting a Web3 division or already has one.
And because there's not a lot of Web3 projects out there and definitely not a lot of anime
projects like we're getting a lot of people hitting us up now to use our IP in their games
to just partner or collab.
So I think this year you're going to see like revenue coming from a lot of different sources,
which I think the I mean, what else can you do?
You got to find every option you can.
So we're going to keep building both in Web2 and Web3 to bring in revenue sources for for
our project and for our holders.
Yeah, I just wanted to kind of just go back on that due to the fact that you mentioned
royalties and that being one of the biggest fundamental differences on Bitcoin.
So let's hit some of these hands Bongo and then we'll go to Titus.
Do you guys have a manga?
We're going to be releasing a Web2 first leading up to our comic book launch.
But we are talking with some of the top studios and artists about manga.
The thing about manga because I am I love manga and I love anime.
I wanted to actually come from Japan.
Like I want it to be authentic.
I want like somebody from Japan who's dope to be like a writer and artist and stuff.
That's really hard to find.
So we've been working on that like all year.
But we will have a manga, yes.
It's really hard to find.
But the manga community on Twitter is as toxic and active as the Web3 community.
There's a lot of overlay and if you guys can be ahead of it, it will be there's a lot of
One thing even you know just in general as a company, it's like because we're the first
anime PFP project, they give us a lot of juice.
Like when we go talk to these anime manga companies, especially in Asia, like they really
respect provenance and that sort of stuff.
And then on top of that, like with the new ownership group, the resources we have in
Asia plus the fact that we're like in a really good spot because we failed early.
So we actually didn't make a lot of the same mistakes that these other projects did.
That's our first collection we're dropping in two years.
And even like after like we drop, we're talking like less than 12,000 total like supplies,
so to speak, between two collections.
So we're still very exclusive, but we've also never like diluted ourselves or dropped a
token or things like where it becomes harder to move forward.
And we have kind of like all the options right now we have like a full menu option.
So we want to be like that real manga, anime, comics, like gaming brand, or it's like if
you're into that stuff, which is kind of like a very core part of Web3, I think, then we're
going to be the brand for you, you know?
Can you touch on the new team?
Like are you the new CEO or like who else is with you?
I was project manager from 2022.
Actually I was going to leave, to be honest, after the acquisition, but when I met Way,
he's the ex CFO of Binance.
I was like, oh, like I should say like, like, number one, this is the project that raised
me the community that raised me the first Web3 community that I felt like home at.
I feel like I have a pretty big vision that I want to execute.
So it's like to have the right team ownership behind that was everything because before
I wasn't sure, like I was like, okay, but like, you know, so for people that don't know,
like if Way is the ex CFO of Binance, he was there for three years.
He literally created Binance Labs.
He probably made tens of billions of dollars for a CZ, I'm guessing.
He also is CFO of two publicly traded companies.
I mean, just been incredibly successful and knows how to scale and is very principled.
That's the thing that I really like about him is that we've seen eye to eye on everything
when it comes to like the ethics and the morals and the approach.
And that's why we've been able to do the Ordinals drop the way because even when I first talked
with him, I was like, okay, I was trying to get a feel for him and I was like, okay, what
do you think are like the goals for, you know, for Oniforce?
And he said nothing about floor price or any of that shit.
It was definitely about building community, about pushing the storytelling and art.
And then I think he has a vision of making Oniforce like, you know, like one of the top
projects in the space period, like a, like a apex predator.
And we could just even like, you know, acquire other projects in the future and become like
a Yuga of like anime and comics and stuff.
And then their team is excellent, too.
I mean, Binance Labs, they basically are the greatest crypto like M&A group in history.
They've acquired and built like many, many, many, many, many projects in this space and
literally helped build the space.
So we need a, we need you to get someone on the Binance team to put on a PFP, bro.
We've seen all the Sandy Polygon MF-ers rock, I don't know why, I think they're rocking
Pluto Misfits or they were, they were Misfits themselves.
I don't know, but that would be dope.
Someone on the Binance team rocking Anony or something like that would be.
Make that a personal goal.
We're definitely talking with them.
So yeah, we're, we're going to be hitting every, at the same time they launched their
I think that would be all in one go perfect.
You know, like, Oh, Ordinals market is live.
It's like we stand with Bitcoin and spam.
Well, this is the daily alpha before real quick, I'll say we are going to be announcing
a partnership with, which I'm saying it for the first time here, but we are going to be
watching a partnership with OKX, which is like, you know, the largest marketplace in
So I think we're going to see quite a significant influx of interest in growing the market Ordinals
market in Asia and Middle East and key territories where there's a lot of liquidity to unlock.
So one thing that they, I mean, we'll, we'll hit the hands, but I'm going to just, I guess,
touch on that in the sense of the one thing that Asians and OKX specifically, that platform
So I mean, send yourself up for the future, but that's, that's what OKX is, is the token
So trust me, we're trying to make every move two, three steps ahead of time.
That's why I just say, sit tight, enjoy the fireworks.
Let's hit Titus and we'll make our rounds and move it along.
Anyways, so I was actually, it's actually interesting that you bring up Yuga.
So I see that you guys are building, I guess, you know, your version of a clubhouse in Shibuya.
Are you guys planning to get a bunch of artists together and sort of have like an artist's
Is that, is that, what is the grand plan with that?
Wait, does somebody feed you Alpha or are you just actually asking that?
Man, this is where I start getting in trouble.
Look, last year in, at Korea at, we launched the, our Oni World Club.
So the Oni World Club is basically a network for business and friends, right?
So the idea is like the Soho House without the house.
And it's like a, it's a network, not just for holders, but just anybody in web three
to connect and build, you know, the space and move forward.
So like wherever you travel, you'll be able to go somewhere, connect with people, get
onboarded to the, the, the local region, meet people, go to the events, you know, do deals,
So Japan is like a huge part of that network.
So yeah, we're launching.
I don't know when we'll announce it, but we are going to be launching an event this
year where we'll be kicking off like our Tokyo Clubhouse and, you know, and, and so, and
then we'll start doing that throughout the year in cities all over the world.
I mean, we've already launched the club like online in terms of we have like 22 chapter
leaders who have started their clubs like in, in different cities around the world.
Like the way it works is like, if you're a holder, you can petition to start a club in
If you're not a holder, you can still be part of the network, but you can't like run things.
You just more like a guest.
And actually, I'll be honest, I got the idea from Hell's Angels.
Not so ho house, because like, I remember learning that the way that they work is they
And so no matter where you go, you have a home.
And I realized with web three, like we need that.
So, so yeah, in Japan, we're going to be fostering artists.
We're working with all like all the top projects out there.
So pretty soon, like if you're traveling to Japan, and you're in web three, like you should
just hit us up and we'll take care of you, you know.
Man, that that is like one of the coolest things I think ever, you know, I don't want
But I feel like Fort-Aid Yacht Club should have stayed focusing on the clubhouse building
They'll do it, actually, I think, but they could have been the ultimate like, I thought
that's what they were doing, to be honest.
And then when I saw like, okay, that's not happening, it's like, who can step in and
There's not a lot of projects that could do that.
And I think with our resources, we actually can.
So so we're going to be launching that this year, or we've already launched it, but you're
going to start seeing more of it this year.
Thank you so much for your question.
Hey, I just have a question.
Like I know we talked about the anime thing, Star Lord, but anime Mfers are the worst.
I know that because I was a super ultra anime Mf or, you know, like they literally hate
It doesn't matter how good it is, who did it and stuff like that.
Like, are you guys planning on working with any specific publishers?
Just out of curiosity, because I feel like I feel like a lot of people in this space
pursue the anime route, and it ends up being like a fucking burning pile of garbage.
And I'm not saying that this is where it's headed.
It's just the reality of it.
It's fucking our complete dog shit, you know, and I'm still, you know, hopeful that someone's
going to launch some badass shit just because I love anime.
I think it's dope as fuck.
So, I mean, you guys have a plan for that on top of that, too, real quick, star.
And then I wanted to just add on to that.
Is it much different from these one off, like six episode arcs that we see launch nonstop?
How far in reality are these projects that launch or have launched on these?
How far were they from at least having something tangible as, you know, a six episode initial
arc show off or something like that?
Because we don't even get that, right?
That's the biggest thing in anime is that you'll fall in love with something and the
shit will be discontinued for that matter.
How many am efforts go right and ask and whatever it'll never come back.
And so we don't even get that in Web3 like we just get rug to begin with.
You know, I'm just trying to, I guess, grasp like how far were we really from even getting
Because that's such a common thing in that anime world.
And then, you know, just back door and kind of touts question.
These are great questions because I am a huge anime nerd and I spent three or four
months in Japan last year total, like between all the times going back and forth.
I can tell you the reason why these projects are so far away is that it it's fucking hard.
Like the thing about Japan is like it's a very it's a very isolationist country just
And the way that they have their corporate structures is like every single anime you
see or every manga that gets like mass distribution is like essentially farmed and built internally.
So they have their own cabal of companies that basically decide what goes out.
And so like when you by the time you get to a chainsaw man, like that artist has been
Like they have a whole system for it.
So it's not like the American comic book industry where anybody with great art and storytelling
and distribution gets a fair shot.
You know, it's like in Japan, it's like you've got to be on the inner circle or you're you're
That's why all these projects are on the outside.
And so even Azuki, to be honest, like they announced like this animator director that
they brought on as an adviser.
But he's kind of like mid level.
And then also they had to pay like the whole super large marketing group in Japan to even
like get those connections.
So I think they're actually probably doing a decent job there.
But I'm just saying that's how hard it is.
So like, for I'll give you an example, like I had a talk with an adviser in Japan.
And like what they'll do is like, it's not just anime companies, it's like the toy companies
like there's like basically like each industry has their own cabal.
And then what they'll even do is they'll get together and you could pitch the cabal and
like, okay, here's a property we want to launch or whatever.
And if they agree to do it, then they'll simultaneously make plans to do the toys, develop the games
and the anime, all that stuff all together.
Like each one of them covers the sector, correct.
It's like they're dividing up the kingdom.
It's like the wire or some shit, you know, it's like you got like these people running
their their their blocks or whatever.
And so that's why it's so hard to penetrate.
So for us, we've spent the past year just building that network.
I've learned a lot about it.
And that's why we are talking with some of the top studios and stuff to find out what
I found out I've gotten quotes, timelines, the other thing is like, you know, it could
take two years to do like an anime series.
But we have a pretty good internal path on how we're going to grow.
So it's going to be hard.
Like I'm not gonna bullshit.
That's why we're starting with comics like Western style comics, because we already
have top creators and people that are going to we're going to make a really big splash
I think that will also help us more with Japan.
But the good news, again, like I said, is like, because there's not a lot of Web3 projects
out there that are anime based, and we are the OG one, like we've already been approached
by we were the ones who've been approached by companies who now need to figure out Web3.
And when they look around, there's there's only a couple projects they could even talk
You've been approached by McDonald's, bro.
I was telling them I was like, you know, this might be a top signal if you release this
Like, I mean, I mean, I see their anime, it's not that bad.
They paid they paid well for that.
So the thing is, if you look at the market, too, this is another interesting stat for
So last year, for the first time ever, worldwide revenue outside of Japan for manga and anime
So now what we're seeing is that the worldwide market is growing, they're going to have more
But the thing is, Japan is very slow on how they develop and they don't actually do a
lot of outreach to these other countries.
So I think there's a clear opportunity for only for us to build an actual web to friendly
anime brand, where we go after these markets and like give them what they want, right?
So and then you have things like Crunchyroll, which they now have like the biggest worldwide
distribution, they have like a 20 anime slate that they're going to be releasing over the
next like five years, we want to be one of them, hopefully, that sort of stuff like that.
There's a lot of things like we're pursuing, but I definitely have learned the market.
And at the end of the day, like, what we're going to start with is like we're going to
collab with the top anime brands and characters and stuff that you know and love in an easy
way so that we could build these relationships with these companies and lead to something
Have you guys ever considered which I don't know, I mean, like, you don't have to elaborate
on this, but just food for thought, I don't know, the South Korean mangas are the shit
solo level, the color them all my fuck, man.
If you guys do something like that, you will fucking kill it.
But yeah, one last question, super ultra quick, top two favorite animes just so I could judge
I mean, in top three anime or manga.
Man, I mean, I'm gonna date myself but Akira was the first like, okay, it was like this,
this like trio of Akira, Ghost in the Shell and Ninja Scroll, which is more of like it
That's and then in Princess Mononoke.
Come on, don't forget about that.
I feel like Ghibli is like his own category.
Like he's like, the real question, star lord, have you seen fully coolly?
If you haven't seen fully coolly, then you need to exit stage left.
You're not a real anime, you know, we take them off the stage.
If y'all don't know what free you do, hawker show and Yasha, I can keep fucking going.
Well, here's the thing, the thing about fully coolly that it's like that anime people really
It's six episodes that manages to capture a whole season's worth of like full transition
of character development, story, arc, everything in six seasons.
And it's an animation masterclass.
Okay, I'm gonna put I just looked it up is in 2003.
Okay, I gotta put I gotta put this put on my anime hat and watch that, you know, avatar
the last airbender, the one that hear from the Western, right?
The director made every single animator watch and study fully coolly before they could show
So now let's hit some of these hands and then we'll we'll wrap it up with star Lordy appreciate
you man for taking your time.
Let's go to Chris is a new hand, and then we'll do English and then bongo and finish
Yeah, I just wanted to let you guys know that anyone who is interested in diving into ordinals
of those 300 whitelist spots, which I'll just put it in a can real quick for the people
who can't see it at the very back there, 30 of them go out to the TDA, you have to join
this board and put hashtag TDA inside of our discord.
And then we can whitelist your taproot wallet, the course 30 users over the next few days,
will be getting it and we can give you a little bit more details star Lordy.
If you have an oni that you want turned into 3d and put into bitmap Valley, go ahead and
send me the PNG and I'll have it done over the next few days.
And then whatever you do get your web series going, we can make you a little custom space
that allows people to come watch your anime inside of your metaverse instance.
And then we can also make it easy for them to access any content that you're selling
or anything that you're putting on display voting.
If you do decide to drop a token, you can allow people to use it as a payment rail inside
So, yeah, just let me know, dude, you're doing some dope shit.
Go ahead English and then Bongo.
Yeah, we got into a lot of like cool, you know, topics that I just during when we were
talking about kind of the art and like the Asian community, even related to like node
monkeys and some of like the ethereum people being interested in like this type of art.
I just wanted Star Lordy to touch on like the genesis of like the art because I heard
It was something that I didn't really know and was an interesting dynamic.
Could you talk a little bit about how like the art was like an homage to like a lot of
so you know, previous anime collections and like maybe a lot of like the people in the
east, they realize that and they notice it, but like the people in the west don't yeah,
you know, it's funny you say that.
So I had a call with a newer whale like he he he he bought like I think he has like 140
oni now or something like that, like he went in and he's in Japan.
And he told me that he was actually there when the mint happened.
And he said that the reason why in Japan they love the project is that if you know anime,
you'll see all these like nods to different animes in the traits and stuff like that.
And that's because I'm complex, the artist, he's, you know, just a huge like he knows
everything dude, like he in with anime clothing, sneakers, all that stuff like he just knows.
So like, you know, the little things I mean, obvious things from like a Gundam mask, you
know, which is like one of my favorite traits to like the hairstyle, you know, like you'll
see like hairstyles that are in from different animes.
And so he kind of like took all these influences and made it his own.
That's why honestly, I call him the Tarantino of like PFP artists, because like, it's like
you see like a lot of influences, but it's really hard to copy his style the way that
Like, to this day, there's nobody who's actually copied the original only for his collection.
But yeah, it's because of all these nods, like from yeah, different traits, clothing,
hair, like all that stuff.
So it's kind of like going through the collection and learning the traits is like, it's almost
like a game to see like, okay, which animated this come from or which manga did it come
And I think that translates.
I think like if you if you are eclectic and how you put these together, it creates a whole
Yo, first in first, thank you for all the Japanese alpha.
I gotta be honest at the beginning of the space, you got a flipper, but now you have
Happy to have you in Bitcoin, brother.
I'm excited to see you guys cook.
And by the way, you all mentioned a bunch of Boomers anime.
They have nothing in this generation.
Yuzu Kaisen, Dimus Lager, Superior, all of it, superior.
I even forgot my question.
So just flowers to you, brother.
And actually, I was going to get to the new ones.
I think, I mean, my favorite manga is, I mean, probably Chainsaw Man, but actually a new
one I just discovered called Dan the Dan.
I don't know if you guys have ever heard of that, but it's the Chainsaw Man's assistant.
But you look at the animation of Jujutsu Kaisen, it's like redefining anime now, right?
So that's the one I was super hooked on last year.
I think we're actually entering a whole new era of anime.
And it's also, you're going to see a lot of creativity coming from the West where it's
like now you have people who have grown up on anime, they're able to speak the language
and then bring their own kind of flavor to it.
And then there's the technology side, which you guys are going to freak out.
I can't say too much, but I advise on this AI 2D animation company.
Right now, the problem with anime is there's a backlog, like there's a two year wait period
for any like anime to be released, which is also why they get killed so quickly, right?
Like they might release a couple.
So this company I'm advising, they just raised eight million bucks.
They literally are working with all of the top studios, with the top brands to build
like they're building out the actual like professional software to do 2D animation using
AI that's going to replace.
So it's like Sora for anime?
Only for anime and 2D animation.
That's going to speed up the process.
They're going to replace like a major part of the pipeline because the anime industry
quietly is kind of dying in terms of people don't want to be animators because it's so
Like you don't make a lot of money.
These guys are going to replace all that.
They've already secured contracts with like Mappa and Tohei and like all the top studios.
And when I say they're working with top brands, like I mean like the actual top animes that
you talk about and they're like doing crazy shit.
So I think in about a year, you'll probably start seeing something.
Two years like the whole industry is going to be transformed.
But the crazy part is like this technology is going to be in the power of people's hands.
So everybody's going to turn into an anime studio now.
I think the future, especially with Web 3 pushing it is decentralized.
It's going to be like, you know, somebody in their bedroom or two or three people that
are love anime, they're going to make the next hit series, you know, and it'll be all
And it's going to be just united by people's knowledge and love of anime.
That's a customizable content, bro.
Like we say you're going to open an app and you're going to pick like, for instance, you're
going to like one on one South Park with Barb Simpson as the correctors, but it's like it's
going to be everything's going to be customizable to whatever your, you know, your gender, your
race, your color, the whatever you want.
That's how, you know, content is going to be in the next five to 10 years with how this
So that's going to be crazy, dude, as long as we step away from that 3D berserk dog shit
that they released not too long ago, like a year or two ago, that like literally vomit
of the fucking screen that I'm bullish as fuck.
Yeah, that's going to be fire, dude.
I mean, look at the Will Smith video from this time to the last time, like, like it
Like, it looked like the chat GPT was hallucinating a little bit.
Now that stuff's like pretty pristine.
It looks like real and like from the very first picture, another six months, but you're
I think for sure you'll be able to do whatever you want.
Like if you want a Ninja Turtles meets Batman anime, like you'll be able to have that.
I think it's actually going to go to video games.
I think like you're just going to like the next stage will be like, oh, I want to play
Ninja Turtles versus Batman.
And like somebody will be able to like spin that up or you'll be able to generate that
Oh, these fucking companies are gonna have copyright, fucking everything.
And that's copyright on on AI.
That's what I was going to be like a Napster event.
Like when you number when Napster came out and all the record companies are trying to
That's like the next event is like this AI creation of whatever you want, customizable.
And then like these produce these movie companies and these franchise companies are going to
And they're like, we can't do anything about it.
You can't you can't close down computer code.
No, they're they're just going to have to evolve with the times or die.
I think it's going to be like the way with like music, how like, you know, YouTube has
like everybody's song and there's promotion for their brand.
So it's kind of like, you know, when torrent came out, it's like filmmakers are flipping
But I remember like some of the younger filmmakers were like, well, I understand piracy, but
also if people are pirating me, that means they like me.
So it's actually not the worst thing, you know, I mean, so I think.
But here's the crazy part.
Japan Prime Minister announced that number one, they opened the gates for AI there.
They took away all the copyright issues.
So there they announced that they're going all in a Web three and crypto.
And that is the IP center of the world right now.
So when you have the IP center of the world saying, OK, we're going to push this technology,
even if we don't know what's going to happen, I think you are going to see that where it's
like the power goes into the hands of the people.
And at the end of the day, it just comes down to the same thing as who has the best story,
who has the best art, who's going to engage with their community the best, you know,
percent, hundred percent.
Let's go through these hands real quick.
Let's go to dinner, dinner, nothing.
And then we'll go to Titus and then we'll kind of wrap up the interview.
Hey, thanks for having me up.
You know, I've been listening to these TV spaces for a long time, man.
And I'm just it's great to see someone like Star Lord up here and really kind of talking
to us and providing that real more close sentiment of connection to a community that maybe you're
So it's really cool to see someone like that up here.
Not only that, like super relatable because fucking anime, dude, we love anime, you know,
and I have a question for you.
Someone who comes from a very much recognizable brand, you know, with its artwork and kind
of paralleling that to other animes that have been present in the past.
I'm not super old, but I'm pretty damn old.
I've watched quite a bit of anime in my day.
And one thing I've really enjoyed about some some animes have been released is that they
have recognizable art, but they'll also throw in episodes with different artists that slightly
changed the artwork and really provide a different view of the episode or just the anime itself.
So like Naruto did this quite a bit.
So how do you run and fairly odd parents collab greatest greatest collab known to fuck.
Yeah, you saw them cross over.
Yeah, the big head brought greatest collab of artists styles being showed.
Sorry, I just had to throw that in there.
My point, though, is like how would you, as someone who likes anime and can see the value
of that there, how would you pair that with someone who has very much a recognizable brand
Would you ever consider like, hey, we're releasing a collection, but the artwork is different,
but it's still the same, you know, anime collection.
Yeah, we're definitely looking into that.
I think as a brand, it's important to be one of our missions is to be a home for artists.
Like, especially because our original reputation was like, okay, we're like the first high
It was the best looking art on chain by far at that time.
And I don't think I'm biased about it.
Like that was the reputation like it naturally like drew in all the best artists in the space
So we want to continue that tradition like we want only for us to be like that web three
studio like a Pixar or a Marvel where it's like, if you're an artist and you're trying
to build a career, like we're definitely the home to come to because we'll help you build
it like we'll actually support you.
But more importantly, that attracts like high level art.
Oh, so I can tell you this out because we did actually tell our community is like when
we're in Japan, the first time we went with the artists, right with I'm complex, went
And then all of a sudden, like our host was like, hey, can you come upstairs?
Like there's somebody who wants to meet you, right?
And we went upstairs and it was this guy who animates the title sequence for My Hero
And like he was like a huge fan.
And he was like he wanted to meet I'm complex because he was like, oh, I love your art.
Like I love these characters.
And they started just talking shop and it was kind of like watching like two like Titans
like just kind of like really vibe and you know, and then he wants to collab, right?
So it's kind of like we want to go after artists who have their own signatures and
then just let them flourish, like give them enough info on the lore and the storytelling
on the brand and then let them interpret it and figure out what that what that vehicle
You know, that'd be cool if you did that for each one of the children, right?
You got seven different ones you let complex kick it off with the first parent.
And then all the other six ones are for example, you have dirty robot do all the children for
that tie back to parent two.
And then, you know, another artist do all the children that tie into parent three.
Because that's one thing about anime that a lot of people that aren't familiar with
it kind of classified as all the same.
But even in, you know, just traditional anime art style is different in all of them, right?
Not only that, but then you have genre style of like how the storytelling is is different
So you have a bunch of just different levels of variables that can be added on to the
same base level characters that change everything, right?
So it gets fun because of the mixing and the matching that you can do.
So it's funny because normies aren't even like fucking the target audience.
It's the motherfuckers that love anime that are the target audience and you're just trying
to scrape it about like, I don't know, whatever any of that's here nor there.
Last thing I want to throw at you, Star Lord, I want you to check out Helsing OVA.
It's an old one, but it is fire.
Oh, yeah, I know Helsing.
Let's go to Titus and then we'll keep the ball moving.
So first, I'm going to respond to Dan.
I tell you, I see what you're saying about having other artists.
But you know, for me personally, I think that that's cool and like a non canon episode
I don't like when they do that.
You know, I think back to the Naruto versus pain fight and the artists they had come in
I mean, it was cool at the time, but going back and rewatching it, I feel like it lost
some of this historical value and it's just not as enjoyable.
And then for Bongo, you know, everybody knows Demon Slayer, you know, Attack on Titan, Bleach,
You know what I'm saying?
Everybody already knows all that shit, bro.
But, you know, if you've been in the game for a while, did you have to level up, bro?
We started with Dragon Ball, you know what I'm saying?
We watched the progression, you feel me?
So like in the anime community, bro, it's hella toxic.
You know, if you don't know about the OGs, bro, darker than black, you know what I'm
I don't really want to hear your opinion.
You know what I'm saying?
And it's not like a disrespect, bro.
But you know, it's like I've literally spent gotta have been like 10 whole years of my
life watching anime, like no cap, like on the couch watching that shit.
So like, you know, just thinking about like Attack on Titan and Demon Slayer and shit.
Map is the fucking goat, by the way.
Hopefully you actually work with them.
But anyways, let me ask my questions to Star Lord.
So I guess I have a couple questions.
Question one, when Crunchyroll collab?
Oh, I'm going to can't talk category ASAP.
I don't know what the answer is to that.
But yeah, we're talking with them, actually.
So we'll see what happens.
And then are you guys also open to doing Manoa and animating that as well?
Oh, dude, we're going to be fucking everywhere, dude.
That's why somebody mentioned webtoons.
Like the Koreans have stepped it up quite a bit with their especially webtoons and Manoa.
So well, basically, so you guys can understand our strategy is like, we're using Western
style comics to establish IP on a global scale.
But then each market needs its own entry, right, whether it's Japan or Korea or China,
So we're going to be working with the platforms and the artists that are most popular in those
regions to launch more stories.
So it's kind of like a Star Wars universe where, OK, you'll be able to get like the
comic book at comic book stores here.
But if you want to go like on the Webtoon series, you're going to get this by this Japanese
And it's like different teams telling different stories.
So maybe one will take like the Mandalorian story.
Another one will take the Andor story, but it'll be all centrally like controlled by
our our brand as we expand.
So so yeah, we're looking into all that.
And also, I was going to say about artists collabs.
I think it'd be more like let let them collab on a separate series or like a sub thing as
opposed to like breaking into the I think the main canon always has to have some sort
of thing that people can rely on.
So it's important to understand.
Well, man, thank you so much.
I you know, I I guess I've seen your project a lot, but I never really looked too far into
I guess it's not like overly apparent that it's an anime project.
But like now after like looking through the Web site and being in here, dude, like I'm
super stoked for I'm going to have to I'm going to have to scoop a couple of these.
I appreciate that so much.
I mean, and that's what goes back to what I was saying is like, I'm complex is a very
original artist like he loves anime, but he loves the gorillas.
Like gorillas are actually a huge influence on the collection.
If you look at the collection carefully, the sideways profile with the teeth on the mouth,
like these little things like our touches.
So it's actually the most blended like West and East collection, I think so.
But that's what I learned is it translates like in Japan and stuff is like, especially
if you think about manga and anime is like they reward originality.
They don't actually like copying.
They don't want to see a collection where it looks like it's just knocking off stuff.
They want to feel like it's brand new, which I think, you know, humbly.
I feel like only force did that because of I'm complex.
And then, uh, sorry, man, I guess that, well, I guess that wasn't my last question, bro.
But anyway that you guys can take over Hunter X Hunter and finish it.
We got, we got 200 people asking.
Well, Lordy, I appreciate you for sliding out, man, to the TDA.
We're here Tuesday through Saturday, 9 45 to about 12.
You're more than welcome to come through talk shop.
Not we've talked anymore because we ate through two hours of being fucking nerds.
You guys are a bunch of fucking weaves losers, losers, all of you.
So look, man, we're taking over the world.
In reality, we all know that you guys are watching men play volleyball with their butts.
That's the real anime that you're watching.
Don't tell anybody about.
Everybody out there throwing the smileys because y'all know that's that unforbidden
category that you don't even want anybody to know is on your crunchy roll.
But there's weird shit that goes on over there.
Shout out to star Lordy for answering all the questions, man.
And hold it your own, right?
Just coming and vibing and really just being one of us, right?
Just answering the day to day questions, man.
So really appreciate you coming out.
I hope you guys have a great time.
You guys are crushing it.
So thank you very, very, very much.
And let's kind of just speed run a little bit of alpha before we close up the show.
So first and foremost, I know that we got everybody on the Saku Monsters early on.
If you guys don't know what that is, it's in a sense trying to be the web three time
But this one is very, very simple.
If you have an iPhone or some type of Apple device, you actually have the head start because
you can participate in this early alpha round.
The alpha round is the egg shakes two times a day.
And all you got to do is be one of the first people to click it.
The longer time progresses, the further you are in line, the less points you get.
If you have an Android and you're stuck, you will be getting Saku Monsters soon.
But the tweet up top is pinned up, as I said, eventually.
But it just won't be in this alpha round confirmed that it will be past the egg tapping round
So if you guys want to participate, if you have access to an iPad, a phone, it's probably
one of the simplest kind of airdrop farms that you can do.
And it's kind of fun, right?
So if you use a referral code or anything like that with someone, they each get a box
to start off, you and them.
Every life away, twice a day.
Make sure your notifications are on too, because people download this shit, don't have noties
on and just dry ass sit there.
A couple more things that I have for you guys.
Next, just as always, we saw the wildness that occurred with the fights and just, you
If you guys look at the two charts, they are hilarious.
As soon as the Sprodo gremlin guide gets hit, the Bend chart skyrockets, and it literally
But we have that fun karate combat has been kind of taken off.
I think Sue Boston is actually going to be next.
I saw him spitboxing with someone on the timeline, and they made plans to meet up in Vietnam
And I don't know, did you guys got to stop posting like videos with swords and shit and
Pinned up top is the winners of the Big Bang competition.
So I know we've been waiting on blast for the longest time of who would actually win
The reason why this is important is that these are going to be the daps that are live day
one, right, and have and are going to get a developer allocation.
That blast has already said that the developer allocation is not the biggest one, but more
so the biggest allocation will be for blast participants.
So even though you don't see a protocol you were farming on your screen, I mean, on this
list, it's kind of like don't be, I don't know, disappointed, because there's a chance
that they're going to still be there and they still will get tokens and whatever may happen.
So big list up top, I think there's 48 winners.
I'm not going to go through them all right, but just some of the bigger names that we
So and then there's a list of runner ups.
I would just keep noteies on for any of these that you want to participate in or you plant
daps that you want to use because these guys are already funding and funded out the gate.
We're expecting blast to go live sometime next week.
So this is all the info to kind of prepare yourself for when it does.
Jay put a list together of like the gaming ones.
Web 3 Gaming NFT and Flash Gaming.
So I guess check those ones out too.
Well I mean I'm just just kind of going through different things right.
Did you see that they're inscribing that dogs now.
Yeah I think that that's the trading is already occurring over the counter.
I don't know if it's done or not.
There was a guy the net dogs DMT net dogs at 930 a.m. this morning said there's 260
left to be I guess minted or inscribed.
So I mean Web 3 always likes dogs more than cats.
Maybe this one competes with net cats.
But net cats are the first is first and those we talked about those first on last Saturday
at 50 bucks and now they're trading for like 0.2 or some shit.
So ggs if you got in on it.
Now coming out which is funny as fuck.
So pinned up top the trade your E.D. God for a BTC D God easy.
I know that emblem vault had talked about doing cross chain trading.
I mean they've always been able to do that in a sense crushing buying but never to where
you could peer to peer trade or swap cross chain.
So now it's saying that you'll be able to do so.
It does go and clarify that it's kind of what I just explained you.
So you sending your E.D. God over does not breed a new one on the BTC side right.
Someone from the BTC side has to accept it and swap that way.
It just allows you to now capitalize on arbitrage if someone's willing to take the trade.
And what else what else do I got the this was also interesting as well kind of a hopeful
moment if you ever get something pretty notable hacked.
We know that Zach XBT is hit or miss and if he's going to be able to help you or not depending
on how you got hacked he might be interested if you were the bozo he was a bozo and that's
Rank 1 D got stolen in May of 23 and Zach managed after what we're going on almost the
whole year to finally get a good chunk of the funds back to the original guy from just
sleuthing and following and I don't I don't know if he just bugs you until you know you
want Zach off of your ass and you just give the money back or something.
The dude that got you know his rank 1 D gods got some of his bread back and I think that's
pretty cool a whole fucking year later bro.
Yeah shout out to him that's awesome.
I guess just a few things and then we'll then we'll kind of call the show leap leap cosmos
which is the leap wallet had a post yesterday with a bunch of parachutes and a phone and
And so it looks like if you use the leap wallet there could be some air drop or an
announcement of an air drop and what is what is this year every four years what happens
There's a leap year so I'm going to guess that it's happening on the 29th so if you have
been using leap wallet look keep track and probably getting some free money.
I use Kepler so fuck my life.
But yeah that that was interesting.
Zai staking goes live on Monday.
They posted study Celestia study Egan layer why city.
So obviously staking earning the tokens that launch on top and then they also did a staking
So if you stake zero to 1000 you're in bronze here you get one X reward success multiplier tier
two is a thousand stake E.S.
Zai that's a two X reward success multiplier you have tier three which is gold which is 10
for four X reward multiplier you have platinum which is 100 K.
And then that's a X and then diamond is one million and that's a 16 X.
So this is going to be one that I feel like it's going to be pretty profitable.
They said Celestia said I can layer so you stake and any token or any game that launches on this
layer three on arbitrary you're going to get air drop that token for staking.
So we'll see how it goes pretty interesting.
I'm pretty bullish still haven't got my entry but it just continues to run.
They just don't stop with the announcement.
Sounds like bro chill the hell out man.
But yeah they're continue to kill it.
And there hasn't really been like a market not a marketplace but like a token a token like a
market cap place where we look at coins actually launch a coin.
People are speculating that coin gecko is basically going to be coming out with an air drop soon.
So coin gecko has officially confirmed a token called gecko.
Don't miss out on the biggest air drop to 2024.
I found a strategy to get it for free.
It costs zero dollars seven thousand dollars profit.
So hurry up and read my instructions.
So what you do is you go to coin gecko.
I guess just tells you coin gecko is one of the largest cryptocurrency data aggregators.
The company tracks over 12000 assets and ninety nine hundred and forty exchanges worldwide.
That's 10 monthly 10 million monthly users one million downloads 20 million page views per month.
So the key points why is the air drop going to be big.
The appearance of the token on their platform mostly always brings a new liquidity and
credibility 10 million users use gecko every month.
The project audience is huge launching your own token can be used through a DAO system will
certainly be supported by users.
The official coin gecko channel often features video guides about air drop projects.
Great air drop equals good marketing press strong community.
So what you do you're going to go to coin gecko you're going to sign in or register a new
account on the top right in the goodies sections collect the daily bonuses.
Collect them every day so you don't break the streak exchange candies for rewards.
Right now there are confirmed rewards for candy limited edition block chain hero NFT limited
edition coin gecko axi infinity NFT limited edition coin gecko first co-op NFT coin gecko
storage vouchers coin gecko how deep I book and many others.
Personally I advise you not to spend a part of your candies but to save it to get more gecko
Have coin a coin multiplier get coin multipliers systemically bigger future coin gecko
We will need coin gecko premium.
What coin get coin gecko premium gives us is one 1.2 X candy multiplier bonus a unique
NFT can be a select creation or getting the air drop our criteria getting their job if
you use coin gecko as a tool with premium you will earn additional bonus such as an
ad free and then one year ago coin gecko had a promotion where users were exchanged candy
I'm sure that will be launching their own token GEC and bring great profits.
So that's kind of the thread up there.
I didn't see one of these kind of like coin market cap or gecko ones and they do have
these candies so I would recommend you guys just trying to get keep the streets going
and accumulate as much candy as possible if this token does come out it probably pretty
big with the amount of people that use coin gecko in general not much but it's like you
do have to pay a little bit to get yourself listed and all that I think like on uni swap
or some shit for you to get all your socials and CMC up I think it's like 0.25 or some shit
right and so I mean there it's not much but they do earn from those like small little fees
you know and just the listing aspects of it plus all the ads that go through it.
Yeah yeah I didn't hear about this anybody talking about it so I figure I bring it to
you guys attention go ahead this just dropped two hours ago friend tech trying to stay relevant
again I did a little scrolling on their page as well for one the tweet before this was our friend
tech v2 will be launching in spring so that's probably what they're prepping for and up top
they got a bunch of airdrop and parachutes and just diamonds and you know a bunch of sheep
no no no they're bunnies so if you want to go be a bunny and play on fen tech you can go ahead.
Yeah and then the uni swap thing came out yesterday and people are speculating you know
this was a governance token now they're doing revenue share that like if you look at it it
seems like something's going on the background that hasn't been announced and people are speculating
that coinbase wanted dismissal and a lot of people are saying like this is kind of like bullish for
like all these us-based companies because it's kind of like risk on you can now do a lot more
of a revenue sharing and and the government's not going to come after you so some people are
speculating that the fact that uni swap did this means that there's possibly some news that's going
to come out with like coinbase and like how the sec is kind of kind of ease off on all this kind
of like revenue sharing and like and other shit so we'll see where it goes maybe it'll be an
announcement sometime next week but this space is such a fucking train wreck man if i would have
told you a year ago that bib boy was going to lose his youtube channel get addicted to steroids and
cocaine ruin his family and it's about to fight harry botter the founder of harry botter sonic
sonic 10 in you uh in the ufc match i would say yep sounds about right so this place is crazy
uh that's from moon overlord there's a great tweet um but yeah i mean i think that does it
for us crypto wise anybody got anything anybody got anything else before we uh wrap it up anything
be good um if anybody wants a job in web 3 i've been telling everybody that the nifty is hiring
for a video content curator if you go to pio's twitter shout out yeah maybe uh didn't have
tig or something all right anyway uh anyways appreciate you all um leave it here for chief
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