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THE DAILY ALPHAβ»οΈ
Recorded: June 13, 2025 Duration: 1:09:19Space Recording
Short Summary
In a dynamic discussion, key developments in the crypto space were highlighted, including Coinbase's partnership with American Express for a Bitcoin cashback credit card, Pudgy Penguins' collaboration with Lufthansa for travel rewards, and the launch of innovative projects like Decentrify and babysitter AI. Additionally, Liquidium's cross-chain loan service showcases the evolving landscape of DeFi and yield opportunities.
Full Transcription
Thank you. What's up?
What's up?
TGIF.
Happy Friday the 13th.
Appreciate you guys stopping by this Father's Day weekend.
It is Father's Day weekend.
So if you guys have a father, say hello to them.
You know, go do something with your dad this weekend.
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Everything we discussed yesterday's show
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I mean, you guys don't need any explanation of what's going on in the market.
Obviously, this kind of situation is something that is taken very seriously
and is talked about around the world.
And typically the first thing to kind of capitulate is the stuff that's the most liquid,
and that's crypto, and it has the the most risk and that's typically crypto.
But this whole war with Israel and Iran has been, I mean, Netanyahu has been talking about Israel having nuclear weapons since 1992.
So this is nothing new.
But I think now we're kind of getting a situation here that's kind of maybe at the end of its cycle. I'm not
actually sure. I saw that Trump was kind of talking before I came on the show that Iran's on the phone
and they're talking about some kind of deal. So, I mean, it can be very easy to get scared out in
this market. You don't know who to trust. You don't know where to look. And I think the kind
of the best indicator of what's actually going on is actually just kind of the oil price.
And what's going to happen here is, if you guys don't know,
with Iran there is a straight there called the straight Hermes
is where 20% of all the oil kind of goes through this straight.
And typically what happens when there's kind of this kind of situation
is they block that straight and they don't let oil to pass through there. And there's like 20% of all
the oil passes through there. And that typically if they block that, that will create some oil
prices to spike. So you need probably the best indicator if this is going to escalate is actually
looking at the oil price. There's a nice little trend line that has been there. I think yesterday
we hit the trend line. I think it's about $75 to $76 for oil per barrel. If we could stay under
that trend line, you would probably kind of see Bitcoin react and the stock market react positively.
And if you see us break above this $76, maybe get the $80 to $ 90 dollars per barrel you could take that as a suggestion
this is ramping up and that this is probably going to kind of go a lot farther um and kind of be more
drawn out than typically is going to happen um i'll pin up kind of the oil chart just in general
we've been kind of we were down to like 58 dollars per barrel and then yesterday during this kind of
invasion it shot up and hit the trend line and then broke back down to 68. So that's kind of going to be your
indicator. You can listen to the news all you want. You can listen to whoever you want. But I'm
saying if you want to get an indicator, if this is going to escalate, I think looking at the oil
price is probably the best indicator for this whole thing. And I'll also pin up some just
information if you guys didn't know of the straight-up
her muse and what it kind of does and what Vyran has done that in the future.
And there's a Polymark prediction market too, which is possibly good to look at.
Prediction markets are an interesting tool to leverage during hectic times at oil markets,
but it's a risk of closed straight-up her muse is seen overbought.
So I think it's at 42% chance on Polymarket.
They actually have something there for you guys to look at. But in general, typically,
I had a chart yesterday. I talked about a chart on the show yesterday. I also kind of put that
in written form last night, kind of showing you these wars typically are great buy the dip opportunities.
I'll pin that up again, but there's a chart here that I found by Markets of Mayhem,
basically showing you the stock market and all the wars since 1955 and what it's done to the price.
And typically these kind of last a minimum of three to 14 days.
You know, there's a typically right when it happens, we have a sharp downturn.
And then that's typically the worst of it.
And typically for us to kind of play this out, typically the average is about seven days. So you'll probably see if this kind of, you know, obviously they're on the phone with Trump right now.
Trump right now. And maybe there's some kind of strategic deal that's going on. But this should,
And maybe there's some kind of strategic deal that's going on.
you know, maximum last two weeks, but minimum maybe last into the weekend or maybe into Friday.
But this is a nice little chart, just a historic chart, just looking at what the stock market has
done during all these attacks. Typically, it's the very beginning is something that you see a
sell-off and then you kind of see it go up. And then I also, yesterday, reiterated this on the show,
but I put this in written form,
just showing you short-term reactions to wars.
We have Russia, Russia-Kuryev offensive
back in the 2024 of May.
We had Bitcoin one week was plus 2.4%.
Bitcoin on the one month was plus 6%.
The Ukraine-Kuryev offensive, which was in August, Bitcoin one week plus 2%.
Bitcoin one month plus 5%.
We have the Tergeku on October 7th of 2024.
Bitcoin was minus 2%, but on the month it was plus 7%.
We had Operation Sindor, which was in May of 2025.
Bitcoin one week, 1% up. Bitcoin one week, 1% up.
Bitcoin one month, 5% up.
We had the Israel-Gaza invasion on, looks like March 19th of 2025.
It was Bitcoin one week was down 1%.
Bitcoin one month was up 1%.
Operation Spiderweb on the June 6th, 2025.
Bitcoin up one week was up 0.93% and Bitcoin one month was up 3.3%.
So all these, if you look at them, all these kind of invasions in the past two years, there's only one that had a short-term downfall.
Every one on the one month has actually been positive for Bitcoin price.
So that's kind of showing you like possibly buy the dip here.
Also, Bitcoin News is putting kind of 100 day returns and 60 day returns.
And basically events here from U.S. Iran invasion, COVID outbreak, 2020 elections.
And Bitcoin, out of all these events, recovers the quickest.
And so kind of just like we've been looking for buying
opportunities. We don't want to buy the frothiness. I mean, if you're looking out for a month or so,
this opportunity seems pretty primed to be buying. I mean, we recovered up to 105K.
We haven't broke 100K. So I feel like if we can go through this and Bitcoin can stay above 100K,
I mean, this is showing great strength. We've had a
lot of stuff thrown at us in the past month or two, two, three months, and Bitcoin steady above
104, above 100K. So if we can get through this and we could see a rebound back up to all-time highs,
I mean, I think that kind of galvanizes the base here at around above 100K. And then we kind of
like got everybody in, people that are willing that lost
and didn't want to buy the dip,
they're in now and now we can all move forward to 110K.
So lots going on in the space.
It kind of sucks that we had all the gains,
but just imagine if you could go back to Wednesday
and you said, would you want to buy Bitcoin at 104K or 102K?
You'd say, fuck yeah, dude, this shit's at 110.
So just use this as kind of
an opportunity. And you guys seen multiple, multiple examples of if you zoom out into like
a 30-day perspective, these are always been buying opportunities. Yes, this maybe is the next World
War III. Maybe it gets a lot worse. And maybe this is like an anomaly where we go down farther,
we go back and test lower lows. But I mean, from previous examples from 2024 to 2025,
all these 30 day gains have always been,
these are always been buying opportunities.
So we're gonna bring that to you, bring your attention.
And like I said, the best thing to kind of look at is,
go on CoinMarketCap or go on Google and search the oil prices.
And if we start breaking above like $80 per barrel, then you could probably say like, okay, big money is seeing this is escalating. And, uh, you know,
and then like, that's kind of going to give you an indicator of what's actually going on over
there instead of actually listening to the media. So that's a little bit on that. Didn't want to
get too much into political views on who's right, who's wrong here. And that kind of gets fucking
pointless. But I think if you just turn off the TV and just look at the oil prices,
I think you'll be kind of steered in the right direction.
So did you buy the dip at all, Chief, yesterday?
It felt like that was a nice little buying opportunity at $102K, man.
No, I feel like I'm cursed, bro.
Every time I come back from any kind of personal commitment,
I end up broke two times.
You know, like that shit sucks sucks you're down from having to do
whatever the fuck you had to do in life and then i get home to just getting my ass kicked on the
market and then my wife ordering shit off of amazon like i ain't even had her phone for 10
minutes with service we're already on amazon shit and i'm like yo and you gotta smile you know you
gotta smile through the pain it's
like yeah oh it's great everything's good and she she literally came up and she's like did the
markets recover I'm like babe I mean this is like war uh it started yesterday the fuck do you mean
did the markets recover within like two hours you know 24 hours and shit so you gotta smile and be
like yeah that's the it's the life we chose right and it's interesting too because you see like pnls of people that are
down like millions of dollars and they're kind of trying to smile through the pain too so
yeah i mean just looking at history it typically the when the first attack happens when we have
all the news kind of talking about and everybody's scared. That's kind of the worst of it.
And then it kind of recovers. People start posting.
People start looking at previous, you know,
you know, perspectives of what's happened to be fact.
And people are like, Oh, this is not as bad as we initially thought.
And then the price continues to kind of go up after people kind of,
you know, get the initial shock out of the way. So, I mean, it's recovered.
I mean, not as much as that we went back to 109 K, but we were at like 102 yesterday and now we're up to 105. And now
there's talks with Trump talking to Iran. And, and it kind of seems like the worst of this is
kind of over. And it's just kind of seems like we're always being thrown a curve ball every two
to three weeks on something, dude. Like if it's a trade deal, if it's a black swan event, if it's,
you know, a hack, it's always something.an event if it's you know a hack it's always
something and i guess that's kind of the the pros and the cons of being in a global market man you
have to pay attention to every sector of the world and that's kind of why we talk macro every day is
just because if we're going to sit here and we're going to you know talk about this we need to start
you know zooming out and actually seeing if everybody if people are being affected by something
it's probably going to affect the price and i think one of the interesting things too is the the the actual
thing that really hurt us was that whole internet outage right uh aws being out and all that kind
of stuff like that i feel like was even kind of crazier i mean discord wasn't working you had
uh like car systems go down it was just a glimpse of like how
Electronically dependent we are as a just a society and a people right and we talked about like one of the worst things
Possible is like EMP cuz then no one can even access their shit
So it shows that to me was even kind of just a bigger eye-opener
Right that literally the internet stopped almost for like a whole day
Right from the cyber attack that we talked about that was going on 24 hours prior eye-opener, right? That literally the internet stopped almost for like a whole day, right?
From the cyber attack that we talked about that was going on 24 hours prior in that morning,
right at the show. And then right after that, internet basically just went down for everybody.
So yeah, I saw there was a few indicators that this was going to pop off. I know Marty Party
was looking at commercial airlines flying over Iran.
They all departed and told all these people to move out of the way.
And that was kind of a hint that there was something that was about to happen.
The Israel attack happened two minutes after market closed.
So they waited till the markets closed to do this because they knew it was going to make a point.
But I didn't know this was an option.
But there's a thing called pentagon pizza report and it basically uh tracks
the surrounding dominoes pizzas around the pentagon and typically when there's something
that's going on uh at the pentagon there's attack there's a influx of pizzas that are being uh
dominoes that are being i got a pizza party bro yeah we get pizza parties all the way up from even i mean i remember that from school you you did a really good job here's a pizza party, bro. They can't really get pizza parties all the way up from, I mean, I remember that from school.
You did a really good job. Here's a pizza party.
Well, you know, they're not going to go eat, you know.
You know, they're probably, like, hunkered down in their bunkers, like, hey, let's get some pizza sitting here for dinner.
And, I mean, it played out like there was a crazy dramatic increase, busier than usual in the Domino's that was two miles away from the Pentagon.
And this is, I did not know this was being tracked, but if you want to see if there's something about to pop off in the world, just pay attention to this Pentagon pizza report.
It's kind of spot on.
These people basically get pizza delivered every time they're hunkered down in their
bunkers and there's something about to be attacked.
So look at that chart.
It's like unusually busy.
And then there's like, I wonder why, what are you guys are fucking doing?
So yeah, dude, I mean, you could go look at commercial airline flights,
but I mean, tracking the Pentagon pizza report,
it seems like it's a great indicator if you're trying to track global events
with America's involved. So just keep that in mind.
I did not even know that thing.
I saw some guy from Barstool Sports pointed out yesterday.
I'm like, oh shit, that's hilarious. So yeah, Domino's Pizza, the number one indicator for
global threats around the world. So I wanted to bring that to your guys' attention. I think,
you know, obviously there's a lot more important thing. I mean, it's very important, right? Like
people are dying. You know, we even had a plane crash yesterday in India and there's, you know,
there's a lot of death going on.
And I don't want to get too into it.
But like I said, this is Father's Day weekend.
There's a lot of males in this space.
Like, you know, take some time.
Spend some time with your family this weekend.
Appreciate the people around you.
I mean, this kind of war thing and this kind of stuff that happens kind of just puts things in perspective.
It's like, yes, being here in the market's great.
But your health and your family is probably some of the most important things. So say hello to your family. If you have
a child, um, you know, squeeze them tight this weekend and do some stuff with them, man. It's
that's what it's about. So I wanted to reiterate that happy father's day to all the fathers in
here. And like, if you don't, if you don't have a kid, go hang out with your dad, man. Like that's
what, that's what basically I wanted to say. you were off yesterday chief i was babbling all yesterday you got some stuff that you wanted
to talk about man you've been kind of off for a day i know i've been kind of rambling here so
once you uh why don't you take over the lead here yeah it's not necessarily um some of the stuff i
mean unfortunately yet fortunately is a little bit late but there's just news and things that
we can take advantage of right so i did see one of the cool things i, but there's just news and things that we can take advantage of, right? So
I did see one of the cool things. I mean, ultimately it's news from yesterday or a couple
hours after the show ended, but the Coinbase credit card, right? Partnering with Amex to
do the whole Bitcoin cashback stuff, right? So I'll post that up to the top. The card looks pretty dope.
Coinbase introducing 4% Bitcoin cashback on every purchase powered by American Express
coming fall of 2025. So we've seen the Gemini card. We've seen the soul card. We've seen the
crypto HQ card, right? Granted, there's bit refill if you actually want a different way to offload as well.
Just one thing in this whole credit card thing
and just to think about, we mentioned it on the show.
When you sell your crypto, that is a taxable event, right?
One of the main reasons why people, companies,
everyone uses credit cards
because all those points, all of that,
I mean, are just offset because none of that is taxable, right?
Those are actual cash value that you can get.
And by law, cash back is not a taxable thing, right?
But when you have to sell Bitcoin, if you ever plan on selling it or realizing any of
this, it is a taxable event.
And I would also look at the 4% isn't for everything, right?
These are only for select categories.
Like for Gemini, 4% was only for the EV cars, right?
So electric vehicles, whether you're paying for charging, whether you have a Tesla or
some other type of EV car, right?
It's stuff like that that are very specific to categories.
So if you're looking at just a card in general, even if you're converting
it to cash value, you might be better off with whatever credit card that you currently have
and just scaling that up in terms of just amount of capital available or debt to be used
and buy Bitcoin, right? I mean, it almost financially is better doing it that way.
So just think about it, right? I know it's new. It's novel. It's shiny.
But at the end of the day, that might not actually be as beneficial as they're making it seem to everyone.
Yeah. I mean, do dive deep into it.
I mean, I just think it's kind of like a talking point or like a marketing strategy.
Oh, four percent Bitcoin. And like people that don't know anything about this, they like oh i'll do that that makes sense like i'd rather get bitcoin than cash but
like obviously when you're talking about taxable offenses it might just be better just buy bitcoin
instead so yeah i mean if you just grab your regular credit card uh rewards that you get
which you actually do get three or four percent on everything and not these just select categories
you can just buy bitcoin with that if you just want to raw raw dog your cash and points and i just mentioned this because i do this right
that's how i travel most of everywhere i use credit card points i mean i credit card point
hack i do all this so it's one of those things that yeah it sounds enticing but it's like you
said it's not necessarily it's one of those oh i'm getting cash back on bitcoin and it's cool but in
reality if you're trying to go in this cash back or point hacking game, there's a million different better
opportunities in ways to buy Bitcoin without having to go through this route of a four percent
This is interesting though
The pudgy penguin thing right since we're talking just miles cash back or anything like that
This is new and this is something that um
i guess we're almost starting to see this meta too i saw this new term of people talking about
uh like it's called the rev meta right so if you planning on launching a token if you're planning
on uh launching more jpegs or anything like that but you actually have a working business model or you're generating revenue of some way or
like form right figure out how to cut your community in right or to start bringing value
to whatever the underlying community assets you have right so we're partnering so this is pudgy
penguins we're partnering with uh luthanasia's Miles and More program, Europe's largest frequent flyer program to bring the rewards to the huddle.
Every purchase in fiat or in Pingu on the Pudgy shop earns you miles, redeemable with 300 different partners for flights, experiences, and more.
partners for flights experiences and more right so this almost contradicts
exactly what I was saying with the other card because now you're actually being
able to utilize it cross-chain for these kind of in real life perks right
granted it might not be at the same rate it's new it's starting out but this is
the direction that I think inevitably we're going to start heading, right? I mean, you even see Helium, a D-Pin RWA company, shift away from the terminology of giving people HNT or tokens to start with these stars, right?
And you can go and spend the stars that are actually equal to Helium in their store and buy stuff.
In their store and buy stuff. Everyone's used to these point models, right?
Everyone's used to these point models, right?
I mean from starbucks to like I tell you guys all the time
My wife scans every fucking receipt known to man and we've never redeemed something for like the six years
We've been together, but here she is every receipt can't be crumbled. So the point system works
And so being able to do in real life activities now utilizing crypto, right?
We have travel swab adding flights and now with this you're able to do in real life activities now, utilizing crypto, right? We have travel swab, adding flights.
And now with this, you're able to actually get points back.
You're starting to be able to kind of make this less frictionless to be on chain, right?
Fully on chain, which is pretty dope.
So I don't know if you saw this, but pinned it up to the top.
If you want to start earning miles, all the information is in the second post.
Got to sign up, create create an account connect everything together and then like it says any dollar that you spend
or pingu inside the shop to buy any of the merch or anything like that you you're automatically
earning miles on the back end yeah i saw i saw this i was like this is pretty interesting do
you think that maybe like i don't know if you saw the news of Walmart and Amazon are exploring launching their own stable
coins. Do you possibly seen maybe the points turning into maybe like getting stable coins
from these companies? Like say, instead of you getting 10, you know, a hundred Walmart points
or a hundred Amazon point credit, maybe they send you like their stable coin in the future instead
of doing points.
Now that like these people are all trying
to launch their own stable coins.
Well, no, because when you send actual stable coins,
stable coins are gonna be pegged to a dollar value, right?
The beauty of points is that they're in this world
of where they've been deemed not a security
and not taxable because they're points.
There is no actual dollar value to the point,
right? They can give you 50% back if you try to redeem it for cash back or something like that.
But ultimately, every company is different and every company can do whatever they want to do
as a buyback system, right? So that's just the whole thing is that they operate in this gray
zone of it not actually being considered money because of how it's actually claimed.
So I think that'll be the more interesting part of maybe they offer you credits in their
store, like a, like a stars or something like that, or points, but it not actually be full,
like send you some of their Walmart USD, Walmart stable coin, you know?
Well, yeah, maybe you can just transfer the points into their stablecoin.
Yeah, like that. That'll be the kind of the loophole in the gray area that you'll be doing.
It'll be a way of redeeming. Instead of you just redeeming back for purchases,
you'll be able to redeem for some other stablecoin, you know? But they can't issue it to you
as a stablecoin. Yeah, obviously stable coins they're gonna be all
over the fucking place and i mean would you rather have walmart launch their own cryptocurrency or
launch their own stable coin i think their stable coin um you know it's not as volatile and but also
they make fees off of it too so you know you seem like we talk about that right i mean why does
everybody want it the same way as why we have so many fucking banks?
Everybody's gonna want the the slice of pie like no one wants to use yours
I mean it sounded good when XRP came out early on in the days and then when they realized that it's not as hard to do it yourself
Oh, it's over, right? I mean you literally got JP Morgan
In the background and they've been testing out blockchain tech in New York for years now. I
think we're going on two to three years, right? So now you see Bank of America is going to launch
their own stable coin, which is kind of, you know, we kind of suspected that all these banks,
if they weren't going to get away with the CBDCs, they're going to launch their own stable coin.
And so you're pretty much going to just see stable coins popping up all over the place.
And I don't know how, I don't know if I like that.
I don't know if I could be able to transact my Walmart stable coin into USDC,
or if it's just only like eligible inside the Walmart crypto wallet or how this is going to work.
But this is like, we're here and it's happening right before our eyes.
Like you're going to be sitting in your fucking rocking chair when you're 80 years old
and you are here for the institutional adoption of crypto and the rise of AI.
And then your fucking grandkids are just like, what did you buy?
And you're like, I bought a shitcoin named Fartcoin.
And he's like, why didn't you buy Bitcoin?
Or why didn't you invest in AI technology?
He's like, oh, because that shitcoin really looked appealing, son.
So it's like, we're sitting here
and this is the rise of what we've been expecting.
It's happening right before our eyes.
And it's just like, retail is nowhere to be found.
And it's like, eventually this stuff
is going to be marketed to them
and they're going to come into this space
wondering what the fuck's going on.
And we're going to be well positioned
into a lot of stuff.
So I don't know.
I think it's pretty interesting.
I just don't see a lot of people that are that interested outside of our ecosystem or even care that this is even going on. But I still think the fact that they don't care means that we're super early to kind of this crypto adoption phase. money spend to get these people interested and like these rewards possibly will drive them into the space maybe you know oh now I got a some stable coins now I can go transfer it into USDC
now I can buy my favorite pudgy penguin toy or some shit so this is interesting I mean it's not
like sexy but this is the kind of stuff that we've been waiting for uh since we got into space is this
kind of adoption from corporate America but also institutions buying our bags like Bitcoin and ETFs
in general so
it's big it's big time sam you came up here again bro what's good man how you doing this weekend
happy father's day how you doing hey sam what's up brother
all right right on the spot but the coinbase have a like a meeting yesterday like did they
have a conference because i saw that they're now integrating like dex ability into their wallet
and i think they're using aerodrome to do that so i guess that you could use coinbase wallet for
here on out and you basically trade into any base asset you want by just swapping it from base ETH into whatever crypto
you want, which is kind of more of the on-chain dynamic that Jesse Powell, what is his name?
Jesse's been stating, like on-chain, on-chain, on-chain. We don't have to wait for Coinbase.
And we could have done this anyways, to be completely honest. But the fact that Coinbase
is now offering through their app and stuff is definitely kind of going to get more of that retail crowd uh figuring out what you know decks is due and how to convert their coins into these
kind of uh into these coins without having to wait for coinbase to list it and shit so
i mean i think that a lot of them are going to go that route too i saw that uniswap implemented a
smart wallet into all of their wallets as well i don't know if you saw that but I mean Everybody's going into this the wallet is the superpower now, so
I'll post that up to the top for you guys to check out
Then there was like the Shopify thing too
Which yeah, the Shopify thing is interesting because that one it's they have to opt in right?
And then that's the thing about it.
Like if they don't opt in, you can't automatically select to be paid in USDC or to pay in USDC.
So I think that that's ultimately going to open the door of people have to see value, have to be able to, I guess, cash out the USDC themselves and then see, hey, maybe this is something, right?
Wasn't the founder of Shopify like a a big i forget who he was it's like andreason horowitz or some shit there's someone he's big in
crypto is the first person to implement uh like crypto in the shopify and shit like that i forget
who's behind it but he's a big crypto native person the founder of shopify so it's kind of
interesting i mean it's not really surprised that they're the first to kind of do this shit. And so pretty interesting. What up, Jit? What up, brother?
Yo, what's goody? Um, God, dude, I fucking, uh, God, I thought we were gonna, I thought we were really gonna run it back. Um, but I, uh, all my longs got stopped at a break even.
Oh my God. I was up egregiously.
Nothing hit TP though.
So just pain.
I know they got, what is it?
How much was liquidated yesterday?
It was a lot, dude.
I mean, yeah.
335 million at initial dunk.
I mean, that's not that bad.
Yeah.
I didn't get worse.
Yeah. I didn't get liquidated. It it's just i just got stopped on everything it was crazy i was just like i was like what like
do we fucking have more news all the time but i didn't i didn't to be honest i didn't look too
deep into it and i'm like contemplating if i should start paying a little bit more attention
to like certain macro points
but i don't know yeah i mean i was cooking yesterday dude i'm like i'm up let's fucking
go and then like five o'clock kids i went to go fucking make some dinner i look back and like
why is everybody nuking like what's going on then i go it's like oh fucking israel bro i'm like
jesus dude like our altcoins are definitely gonna suffer if you know if there's a nuclear attack
guys like that's the last thing that we need to be worrying about.
But there was a lot of Cooks that were happening yesterday.
And then right when 5 o'clock hit, bam, everything nuked all hell.
And I was wondering, did I just get farmed?
And then I started looking.
I'm like, no, it's actually Bitcoin that's fucking dumping.
I was like, dude, it affected everything.
So it's kind of disappointing.
But yeah, dips are dip, you know,
dips are for our gifts right now, dude. Like just imagine if you could have gone back on Wednesday
and said, would you buy any of this stuff at these prices? You'd be saying fuck yeah. So yes,
leverage longs got stopped out, but you could have probably context definitely matters with that
though, bro. I mean, we keep saying I like, you got to be like, yo, would you buy this at this
level with nuclear threats looming? I mean, I think very few you gotta be like, yo, would you buy this at this level with nuclear threats looming?
I mean, I think very few people would be like, hell yeah, brother.
Hell yeah, brother.
You know, like, it's like, yeah, I'd buy the dip.
If there's nuclear threats, we die, and then it doesn't matter if our coins go down.
So are you gonna buy?
Like, you're gonna buy.
Because if nuclear threats happen, like like we're gonna die anyways and
our coins gonna be worthless so you might as well just go fucking buy the dip you know
wait look look at hold on look what look what i posted yesterday i just pinned it to the top
i can't see it hasn't it hasn't gone up Oh, God. Give it, like, one second. It's mad funny.
Like, literally, like, it's, like, I was, like, I got added to one of these chats, and it's just, like, a ton of, like, KOLs.
And, like, there's, like, multiple conversations going on.
You have, like, Pete talking about, like, how crazy the war is, and other people are talking about, like, oh, my God, like, this is an entry right now.
And then you have other people talking about bloop drama.
It's just, dude, this is not a serious place.
It never was, bro.
It never is.
Go ahead, English.
What's up?
Yeah, no, I thought that's funny when you mentioned the time.
Just because in Taproot Wizard Discord, just to kind of troll because everybody was so euphoric.
And I mean, I thought it was the best chance for Breakout, too. Just this attempt, it felt really good. in taproot wizard discord just to kind of troll because everybody was so euphoric and like i mean
i thought it was the best chance for breakout too like just you know this attempt just it felt
really good so i i posted a picture of a black swan and like literally like it just happened
i thought it was funny i think look the dips are for buying i bought far coin and some other stuff
that i've been accumulating and i think they're but like trader main put a good point it's kind
of to like the point of chief you know it'saderMain put a good point, and it's kind of to the point of Chief.
It's like all of these dips are for buying.
It's like you always buy the war bombs.
It's like, especially if you zoom out,
it recovers or whatever.
He's like, because usually it's nothing and it gets resolved.
But sometimes it doesn't.
Sometimes it is something.
That's the reason that it dipped,
is because people are positioning to be like,
okay, if they start attacking, like Iran starts taking taking a US base and then we start to blow it.
I'm not saying it's likely.
I think given our current environment and just how much manipulation and all this other stuff, it's probably a buy.
I probably see Bitcoin above 130, 150, maybe 175 by end of year.
It's all relative, right but but there's that aspect
they've been trying to break out themselves for the last 50 years i mean you think about that
chart those two have been going at it trying to get dominance too so it's one of those things too
it's like the same way that you look at a chart you're like yo look it looks prime i mean that's
kind of what's going on war wise too because a lot of people are saying that if this occurs the way it's β if it gets bad, then it gets bad, right?
But it will be the last time it gets bad in a sense, which you can take that in a positive way or a negative way, right?
Well, if it gets resolved, if it gets resolved, English, like we have that kind of Iran cloud over us.
There's a Ukraine and Russia deal that's possibly coming.
We have a China peace deal, trade deal that's coming.
And then we ultimately have the genius bill that's launched next week.
So let's just say it does get resolved.
We don't have that cloud over us anymore of Iran fucking with us in our markets anymore.
And then Ukraine and Russia looks like it's about to be a peace deal.
So it kind of feels like if this gets resolved, we don't really have,
I guess there always could be something,
we really don't have a lot of this war stuff that we have to worry about
for the next few months at least.
Yeah, I think the person that I've been giving the most weight to,
like opinions, like I don't think anybody, including myself,
really is like, you know, we can give our opinions
because that's why we're here, right?
Like so, and we're all in this kind of together.
We're looking at the same assets, you know, we're trying our opinions because that's why we're here. Right. Like, so, and we're all in this kind of together, we're looking at the same assets, you know, we're trying to figure this out
together. So like, there's nothing wrong with you giving your opinion, me giving my opinion, but
I mean, without you, you give different weights to different opinions and like, as, as unpopular
as Udi may, may be at the moment for whatever reason. Um, I love Udi, but, um, he's the one
that was like two days, three days before like, hey, listen,
like things are going to get bad.
It's not priced in yet.
And like everybody like laughed at him and like that's exactly what happened.
And his disposition is that like it's not a time to be selling Bitcoin.
It'll probably get worse.
So I think he's anticipating like another kind of like dip.
And then like he alludes to the fact that like, I think in his
mind, this is my assumption of, or my interpretation of what he's saying is kind of what you were just
saying, which is why I brought it up is that it'll get worse, which is leads to a positive outcome.
And that's like the, I guess the deescalation of, of nuclear threat from Iran. So I guess he's
factoring a pretty like persuasive victory from, from Israel or whatever. So I guess he's factoring a pretty persuasive victory from Israel or whatever.
So I think half the things he does is for engagement, but I think there has to be a
little bit of belief behind what he writes sometimes. And he's like, it's still not priced
in. He wrote that at like 103. So I think he thinks that, and obviously he has background.
I think he lived in Israel. I think he served in the forces from, and obviously he has like background, like I think he lived in Israel.
I think he served in the forces from pictures I've seen.
I don't know this as a fact.
So I know he has like his ear to this ground, like more so than like you or I that live in the United States and have been watching like, you know, the conflict since the 90s or whatever we might have been doing, you know.
So I don't know.
That's kind of an interesting take.
Why are people selling those?
I mean, is it the flight to safety?
So where are you going to put your money in the fucking cash or is this kind of well i don't
justify bitcoin right like if people are going to put their money into a safe haven asset you're
going to put it into a devaluing currency well here's the thing dude the the the issue is money
right if money is controlled by a centralized, then we'll always continue to have war over power and over dominance of that.
And that's going to what you're saying right now definitely goes back to reinforcing the narrative of Bitcoin becoming a global currency or almost a a mainstay that isn't necessarily manipulatable the same way that others were.
Right. You can't just come and you know knock
on my door and grab my coins in that sense right if you if you had a bomb the coins go with the
bomb so if we're actually after money then the the the ball game changes when you start introducing
bitcoin in these global currencies because then these wars become less relevant right like i said
i mean you can go and attack someone,
but at the end of the day, like if they actually die
and you don't get the coin, you don't get the money, right?
And so that's, I think that another reason
it kind of reinforces this narrative
on the longer time horizon,
that the main issue with all this stuff is money and power.
And so if we can solve this idea of global money
to a certain extent of
it's not based off of one government or one entity right it's kind of it just either spawned the same
way that bitcoin did and it has a certain level of decentralization that people don't feel like
it's worth trying to attack then i think then we're in a different world yeah i think to answer
your question what i think espresso is that like's like, why are people selling it? I think you have to
put the context of like, this is 2025, four years after 2021, everyone's directionally bullish.
So I think people feel more comfortable putting more money in crypto than they normally would
normally put because they're like, okay, this is where the outsized gains are. So you have
one component of that. And then the second component of that is like, okay, well, if this
becomes something where like, I want to use cash or use money or like these assets, like, and this
goes on for six months or a year or whatever the case may be, then like, I don't want to be holding
an asset that's going down, you know, 2%, 5%, you know, 10% a month,
whatever it is, it's going on a downward trend. Like that's not conducive because you put more
money in than you probably should have to begin with. And you're doing that. So I think that's
why people start like, once you start looking at like these targets of 150 Bitcoin, well,
why not do I put all my money in Bitcoin? Because that's like a free fucking 50%
like gain in like a few months. So I think that's one component of it. I think the other component is that Bitcoin itself is
like in this weird spot. Like, I think it's not farfetched to say that the majority of us have
believed that like Bitcoin should trade like digital gold. And that's like its value proposition
kind of like what Chief was, you know, alludinguding to but it hasn't traded like that until
kind of recently where it's like in this weird transition zone where like like the world is now
looking at it as like the same way that we've been looking at it for the past you know decade
or whatever so like we're kind of like wondering like okay is this like a flight to safety and now
like people will just not sell their gold because this is what you want to hold or is it more of the same like they tricked us again like it's actually going to be
inverse to gold you know and because that's how traditionally even though we're like what the
fuck that doesn't make sense that's the way the world has reacted to it yeah i think maybe people
just want to get out of the volatility of the seeing the number go down from like say you have
twenty thousand dollars in bitcoin and it drops from 109 to 102.
Now you have fucking $15,000 worth of Bitcoin. So maybe they're not going into the dollar.
Maybe they're going into stable coins, but like it's a psyop to get into the dollar just because
it says you have $17,000 of cash and we go to war. They're going to print more fucking more
money to fund this industrial fucking military complex and that 17 000 isn't 17 000
it's really like fucking ten thousand dollars because the devaluing of the dollar it's an
invisible tax on your fucking money well if you're not using your money too that's another thing too
very few people in this space are exposed to some type of defi right and even when you go into the
defi world and realm you're now looking at improbable loss, depending on what kind of
tokens and all that kind of pair that you got, right? But that's the thing. I mean, if you're
in spot, just dry spot, and it's the sticker shock, right? It's from going from 19k to waking
up and now you're at, you know, 15. And there is nothing yielding you money in the background
because you're in spot
or you're in JPEGs or something of that nature, right? That's also why we kind of
push people in a sense to learn different things, right? To learn DeFi because I mean,
yeah, you're in spot, yeah, number goes down. But if you're earning yield, and you're gaining
more tokens, at the end of the day, regardless of if the token, if you,
I mean, the token's not worth anything now, you have more than what you started. So when the token
relatively starts going up, you gain a compounded gain, right? So it's just different ways. Same
thing with TA, right? Certain these things, regardless of what happened yesterday, we're
still in range. We didn't break. That's one of those beauty things we're still in range we didn't break that's one of
those beauty things that if you look we didn't break the bitcoin range and so if you understand
that yes it's bad yes sticker shock i'm down 15k but i can still go over there pull up a chart and
be like hey maybe i can scalp 100 bucks or i'm not that bad like hey things look bad but it's really
not that bad right so there's just no i was going to say different ways to get exposure as hedges,
even if you are fully on-chain exposed, right?
So just learn DeFi, learn TA, learn harmonics, learn certain elements of this space that
aren't dependent on whitelist and crypto Twitter, right?
Yeah, just lastly, Express, I think also it depends like,
you know, what are you selling? Like, or like, and what are your timeframes? Like if you're,
if you have Bitcoin long-term bags, it doesn't make sense to sell anything. Right. Like you
just know that eventually it's there, but like, I think it's hard to like look out for anybody for
like three to six months. So like, if you're looking at your part of your bags that are like
part of your three to six month play, like, you know, last, you know, Havanning, it was like, all right, cool.
We'll get into the presidential election, like three to six months, you know? And then from that
time, it's like, okay, well, you know, what do I think is going to happen after inauguration and,
you know, Bitcoin strategic. And then now it's like the next six months, it's like, okay, well,
this is supposed to be like the peak euphoria for happening if you believe in like the four year. So you can kind of feel what's going to happen
because you like Santa rallies, like things that typically happen. So you're kind of gauging based
on that. But I think it's hard for anybody to say like, okay, well, what is 2028 going to look like
or 2027? Like, I don't know. Like, you know, I think most people are trading with like a three
to six when you're trying to like gain multiples and like outpace Bitcoin, which know. I think most people are trading with a three to six when you're trying to gain multiples and outpace Bitcoin, which is why I think we're here. We're trying to outpace Bitcoin. Otherwise, we would be on Bitcoin Twitter talking about DCA every day.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I see it. I mean, it's just interesting how the market reacts. And I guess it's just because it's very liquid asset so people can can get out the quickest and it's very risky people still don't believe in bitcoin as kind of
as much as they believe in cash i saw we're kind of transitioning into kind of all kinds what like
i think this is a brief explanation what happened with the whole magic eden thing yesterday where
like bitcoin was being sent to magic eden wallets and people are losing like their
trunes and ombs and stuff do Do we know what actually happened there, Chief?
From what I can deduce and what I've, I mean, just kind of how the tech works,
this had to do, this was right when all the servers went down for CloudFair and AWS.
And this is what we talk about, like, ultimately, that's where kind of that stuff was, this is all done on front end, right?
Magic Eden does, and ultimately they executed on the back end through bitcoin and just whatever chain you choose but
this was that whole hey uh a siloed version of bitcoin on magic eden versus a mempool marketplace
to where you're staring at what's going on inside or on bitcoin itself right and ultimately in order
for us to be able to trade this,
just due to how ordinals are, individual indexers, etc., we are dependent on front ends to a certain
extent. And this was, I think, just a front end disconnect because this was at the exact same time
Discord was down for sending images because of Cloudflare and AWS servers. And just that whole
global, I mean, I wouldn't say it was an an attack But when we had the outing the outage
Yesterday, that's what it was the same time that this was first
Reported I think there's three known cases
That this occurred right so ggs to those people I mean they should get like double whatever the fuck they bought
Because not only were they buying the dip in the mass time of fear
But then they got fucked for having the nuts
to buy the fear you know so shout out to them but someone bought a shroom i think an omb and a
bitcoin frog or or a puppet or something like that um but yeah prompt on responding to that if you
pull up the magic eating page though uh oh earlier today it still said i had a pop-up but it may be fixed I don't
know if Elizabeth or anybody has tweeted since then and saying that the problems
fixed but just be weary if you're buying or utilize another marketplace I mean
essentially they're all running almost the same version of indexers themselves
right and you can kind of access this stuff on other spots there's another
breadcrumb of something that's about to happen.
Go ahead.
I'm going to post something up to the top.
It was the alkynes comment.
For anybody that's farming alkynes and oil wallet,
something came up yesterday that they were introducing double XP.
Right?
Or not double XP, but one XP point per hundred sats that you spend. So basically,
people went out, did the math, broke it all down, and ultimately, the exploiting started.
So pinned up to the top, a post by Holy Duck, just showing how you can essentially, and it's
already happened, become in the top 50 of the leaderboard by just sloshing some money around because of this new XP glitch.
for almost a year now are getting passed up by people who ultimately see the incentive in
potentially farming oil or for this airdrop or for whatever they got going on. And currently,
you can spend roughly about $2,000 in fees, and it'll position yourself as the top 50 oil
wallet participants. And then if you spend $ spend ten thousand dollars you're in the top five
so a lot of people that are getting passed up and a little bit upset that they've been
participating in that ecosystem have airheads did all the quests etc and now just due to this little
incentivization method uh it's slowly starting to fade away and their positioning is gone so this will probably
be patched soon uh lord r for anyone out there that is big on alkynes has been farming oil
i'd probably go take advantage of this real quick get yourself a couple spots on that leaderboard
a little faster than others and then uh you know when they patch it you'll be good to go
so what's up um just we're on the the subject of bitcoin
yeah just to finish this up uh i know a lot of us had these uh a while back me you and then a couple
other people from the community i know a lot of people in ocm minted these as well uh it was an
art piece by weta do you remember that it was like a line i pinned it up to the top he's given yeah he's
given out physicals for free you just got to pay shipping so if anyone holds any of these i know
some of like i said our community and ocm community minted these out for him or when he was going live
uh just tap in with him send him a dm and you can claim your physical so just free artwork for your house man that's
dope um spy inc which is uh something that's kind of a play to earn game um that's coming they
announced their tge for monday so i know we won't be here for monday but uh they're basically you
had a talk with them right just a little bit of context on that um they come from last cycle were big on like wolf game uh wizards
and dragons all that kind of stuff uh saw on-chain heroes uh take off on abstract um saw all the
failed attempts at play to earn games and kind of these ponzi games on base right from like that
infected game and all those world games right none was really done i guess what you could say with intentionality or similar to even replicate this and so that's
kind of their point or their goal now uh with spy right is to see if they can get that spark
on base the same kind of uh you know hype that was created or the fun that was created when wolf
game launched and just those
on-chain play to earn kind of pawns ification games so typically with these we tell you all the time
This is what we told you with big and all the other one that launched on so fun
Just start early you upgrade fast
Right and as you go
Ultimately the further along you go the more you yield
Remember to take profit none of this shit's real unless you're taking ultimately, the further along you go, the more you yield. Remember to take profit.
None of this shit's real unless you're taking profit, right?
I don't care what your little character on the screen says that you got a million of XYZ token.
If you can't cash that out, right, if you're stuck in the loop of upgrades and you can't make that real, you're getting farmed.
So just remember that while you're playing these games it's good to be early
it's okay to go hard early on right if the hype is there if the attention is there but remember
when you go hard early make sure you at least take some of your profit out because the longer
this goes the less profitable it is and the more exposed you are yeah Yeah, 100%. And their TGE is looking at hard cap, about $2.6 million.
Round one, which the Foundry has a few spots,
you can get up to $1,200 USDC allocation.
So you can do up to $1,200 or as much as you want.
Round two is on Tuesday, the 17th.
First come, first serve and whitelist.
And then Tuesday is a public round.
Distribution and game launch will be Thursday, June 19th.
Spies can only be minted with ink.
So this token that you're basically putting into this kind of TGE,
you're going to get that and you'll be able to basically mint their NFT to.
Exactly like Bitcoin or exactly like any of those, right?
You start off with the token and then you choose.
Like this is the thing that makes this fun or the reason why people like it is strategy, right?
Let's say you get a thousand tokens and each spy costs 200, right?
Do you start off with five spies or do you grab one spy, upgrade it four times and then have a little, you know, so it's stuff like that, that that's ultimately the way that you play the game and everyone will have different yields based on how they strategize their game.
That's why the most tokens early on typically tends to be beneficial because you might start a strategy with five spies and realize, hey, these aren't yielding shit.
I just need to upgrade one.
And then you grab what all those five spies make you and you only upgrade one.
Right.
So that's the fun of this.
And you have to be early because you can't do this when the games later on, it'll be expensive to have five spies.
It'll be expensive to upgrade.
And then that's when everybody stops playing the game and the bag holders are fucked.
are fucked so whenever it gets too expensive which is exactly what we saw with big people
were spending quote unquote almost thirty thousand dollars usd which would have been if you burn the
token realize it or whatever in order to do these higher end rig upgrades motherfuckers are like 30k
i get it it was free but i mean 30k is a fucking a nissan you know i'll go buy a little fucking civic or
some shit like that with 30k so when you get to that point where you're having to consider
yo do i want to use the fake coins because this is actually real money where it can be then you
know run for the hills or hopefully have enough profit do you think this i mean base has done
multiple games and they all kind of feel like they fall flat i mean you talked to them you said that they're aware of this do you think it's just
a base problem a culture problem on base or do you think it's just more the games aren't fun
like i don't know i mean i'm not gonna say that i'm overly confident in the team itself right
it's execution over anything and the fun game loop itself but it's like you said they're aware
and i think being aware is
half of the battle knowing that hey these haven't been successful now what you do with that awareness
or if you know how to execute on being aware it's something completely different right you can't
just be like yeah i know all the base games fail but we're gonna try the same thing but we are
different you know this time it's different and it's like no how what you know it's not just because it's you and a lot of people think well, it's because it's me
It's my idea and that that's cool that confidence works
But ultimately asked to convert to everyone in the users next I see like Bitcoin the reason why I felt like it was successful
As we seen that game played out before I just feel like it had like the new
Participants on abstract and then they had the streamers and and then they had the marketing flywheel, and then everybody got involved.
You see DeFi Dungeons and stuff.
Solana has a culture there that have a bunch of DGens and people that are doing it.
And then you saw DeFi Dungeons replicated on base with that other DeFi game, and that one fell flat on its ass.
And I just feel like there isn't that DGEN culture on base to kind of get new participants over here interested to spend money.
It feels like a lot of suits.
So I just feel like that is maybe the issue.
I mean, everything, but wasn't Frontech on base?
That's the thing about it.
You can't say that.
Yeah, but it was new, though.
It was new, and I just feel like it was the first thing
that ever launched on base.
So people were interested in just trying out base for the first time,
and it brought a lot of new participants in a bear market.
So I don't know.
It was like a new meta at the time but i don't know i just kind of feel like these games need some kind of retail smooth brain fucking people over there to go do it and i just don't
think base has that like that culture built yet it just kind of feels like it's very professional
it's a cool blockchain but they don't have like that ko well that's going to onboard tons of
people into this game i don't know i don't know it's going to onboard tons of people into this game. I don't know.
I don't know.
It's kind of,
I feel about it. And you know that they,
and they're,
they rarely like do cross coverage.
Like as in like,
I mean,
Jesse was doing it early on.
Right.
But I haven't really seen him go hard on highlighting base projects or
anything like that since then.
So maybe this is a different one.
I don't know.
Maybe,
maybe Jesse fucking tweets the fuck out of this and everybody FOMO is into this, but that's the kind of thing you would need. like that uh since then so maybe this is a different one i don't know maybe maybe jesse
fucking tweets the fuck out of this and everybody fomos into this but that's the kind of thing you
would need for this to kind of take off similar to like a bitcoin or like a defy dungeons right
you need somebody that has a lot of followers and a lot of trust in the in the community to like say
this is a fun game you guys should try it out and then you'll probably see some fomo into it but
if it's just a fun game and there's nobody there, I just don't see.
I don't know.
We'll see how it goes.
I'll have some faith.
I'll have some faith.
I'll have some faith.
I'll have some faith.
Hopefully it does.
Are you going to play the FIFA Rivals game?
I think that's live too now.
No, I'm not going down that rabbit hole again.
I did that with the mythos in the football, but I still get emails all the time.
It's like, hey, your card, your player's worth something. And bro all the time it's like hey your card your
player's worth something and i'll go and it's like worth a dollar oh my god yeah i think the
cheapest thing right now is like 250 dollars um post this up to the top i think this is pretty
dope uh liquidium uh completed its first cross chain uh back. So someone took a loan on liquidium through Bitcoin side
of things, and they received USDT on ETH. So really kind of opening the door for those people
that don't want to sell their corn, but need viable cash for in real life, or just want to
make plays with it. Right? I mean, they're now doing peer-to-peer loans cross-chain uh for bitcoin so
i want to put that on you guys if you got big bitcoin bags and you want to buy a dip and you
don't want to sell the corn itself there's now different ways ultimately there's more corporate
kyc routes right but the fact that you can kind of go through bitcoin's just native defy um i think
that this is going to start opening up the doors for if the whales ever come, they have a way to participate and not have to sell their coin itself.
Next, Peel.
I know, yo, I'm crazy.
They didn't give us no credit for when I brought Peel.
I brought Peel probably a month before the campaign started.
Wasn't that on Cedify, right? Yeah, peel probably a month before the campaign started.
Wasn't that on Cetify, right?
Yeah, bro.
A month before the campaign started.
I think they're in the thread that we talked about and everything.
It just didn't work.
But anyway, starting to get way more engagement
on the timeline.
The usual twerkers are twerking, right?
It is a leader-based, leaderboard-based
kind of system and engagement.
You have to go inside their telegram, sign up, and then you can start creating content and working.
I will say this, a lot of people are upset at just how the leaderboard has landed. A lot of
quote-unquote bots, right, in the top 50, top 100, names that no one even knows but yet have well you know
obviously the points in the significant activity to be there uh this is just a comment from meta
he's uh the ceo of cedify and they're also doing two things right there's peel and then there's
also another one that's kind of a dsci i don't know if you saw that it's called decipher which will be another project incubated by C to five so
C to five used to be big last cycle with the gaming launches
Right, so just something to consider and something to look into
It kind of been chilling in the background
cooking I guess you could say that right and peel was their first kind of move out and then now this
Decentrify or whatever is the next one so
i'll post that up to the top if you see if you guys are interested is that the decipher one
yeah there you go launch pad yes yeah go ahead and put that up if you can i'm looking for that post
yeah it's uh this swarm of five d site agentsci agents, research, patent, collab, funding, legal, AI agents, scouting breakthroughs across scientific fields.
C-Defy partnered with D-Sci, Launchpad, decentralized funding for the next wave of science.
IDO, TGE soon, join the Telegram.
I've seen a bunch of the same people.
I mean, I think they're all partnered with C-Defy.
Like the people that are talking about it, obviously they have some KOL deal with C with cedify and they all post about it at the same time and it creates hype but like cedify
was the launch pad for gaming last cycle like if you law if you if you staked your cedify you were
able to get like those uh idos or ipos of those games at like fucking pre-sale price or pre-market
price at like 100 200k or some shit so
i guess now they're doing like more launches of just other things like dsai agents and and nfts
and games and shit yeah different just products in general um another one that i was going to post was uh damn where'd it go sorry
oh okay infinex in kato uh for yesterday if you have kato staked go on to your kato portal
uh infinex did an airdrop to all stakers and you got your actual airdrop if you participated in the infinix
campaign um so even if you've never logged into infinix uh like i had never used it right um you
can go create an account link your wallet that is linked to your kato account and your airdrop will
be there on the infinix page right because you actually have to claim that way directly on the Infinex page.
But you can basically find the claim link through your Kato dashboard.
So click that little airdrop tab in your Kato dashboard.
It'll have a spot there for you.
It'll direct you, redirect you to Infinex, create an account, link your current wallet, and you can claim what it is.
I think I got like $25 or something for just being a kato staker so nothing crazy nothing significant but
it's there but dude kato took a fucking nosedive i don't know if you noticed that yesterday or if
you've seen that chart but i mean i think it's at one dollar and 30 cents like it did a massive
massive dump i think a lot of people have started unstaking
just due to not seeing the direct correlation to, you know, everybody being on every leaderboard
now, the rewards not being as fruitful for the stakers or the yappers, right? I mean, now what's
the point of staking if you can just yap your way to the top and get a bigger slice, which is now what's occurring and kind of the disproportionate of the teeter-totter right
people are like well i have uh an eath or two staked in here and you're just yapping or you're
copying pasting bullshit and you're making an eath when i'm making 100 bucks right and i'm
actually you know it's that on-chain proof that i got skin in the game so
hopefully there's some competitors coming out too bro like i saw two or three fucking competitors
that are doing similar things that have like no one's talking about like that's what we're talking
about like everybody was talking about kato three weeks ago and we're telling you gun virtuals now
everybody's talking about virtuals and so you got to move ahead of the crowd and so now there's some
competitors out there um i did a write-up in our Discord this morning about one that partnered with Kato today.
I do think that might be why people are unstaking,
and they're probably positioning themselves into kind of the next one
that will be like a more bigger return than just kind of keep doing the virtuals one.
So, I mean, I think virtuals do well.
Did the Babysitter launch today?
Are you talking about virtuals or Kato?
Well, just Kato.
I mean, virtuals had that launch.
They had the Iris yesterday, and that did well.
And then they have the babysitter AI one that I think is today or tomorrow.
I was wondering if that got filled or not.
Yeah, it was oversubscribed by 200% earlier in the morning.
But, yeah, they're waiting on that to just see I mean virtuals has been a cook that iris when I put 50 cents and I made 130 bucks
I mean, yeah, you don't you're limited to
Ultimately your activity and how many points you have is how big of a bag you actually get to make
So it's not like I couldn't they didn't let me put more than 50 cents
you know ultimately if i had more points then i could have committed more and made a bigger bag
and you go through that cycle but it is very much a kind of like a chain chain and ball i would say
right if you want more points then you have to continuously participate in stake and leave your
tokens logged in and then you have to just participate in every
launch from then on so i don't know um it is i guess i can't say the price of uh virtuals is
still holding strong right that iris pump definitely helped um so i can't say i'm down on my investment
on the virtual side i mean all the launches that i've participated in have been, you know, good. But I am down on Kato.
Like, pretty decently bad on that shit.
So, I think that I'd rather just pick one side as someone who's not a yapper.
They're clearly not rewarding just the staking aspect of it.
So, it's just not the protocol.
Yeah.
I don't know, dude.
I saw the one I was talking about, the one that I think is the next virtuals. They just had an announcement where if you stake
Kato you will be able to get some of their agents that launched too. So
Just kind of up and down right, you know, like sometimes the staking is beneficial sometimes it's not
I mean you do you just don't get a lot, bro. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Like I've gotten stuff from Kato, but it's always like like tiny in a sense of comparative to if you just don't get a lot, bro. Yeah. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like I've gotten stuff from Kato
but it's always like
Like tiny in a sense of comparative to if you just yapped half the amount, you know, whatever it may be
And I think the last piece of information I had
Uh, it's just puff paw, right? I mean they have a board on kato right now. That's kind of the vape to earn
Uh smoking deep in from bear chain, bear chain they're headed and they will be
on the what's it called the world vape show in Dubai right and they were actually featured on
the world vape show like Instagram and stuff like that so trying to tap into the web to world they
already have distribution channels production for the the
machines itself the juice supplier and everything and then they're just adding the web 3 component
of being able to earn a coin right on that note too um they have a new system to where you can
just transform any regular vape that you buy at a gas station right if it has i think bluetooth
capabilities or some shit like that like there's
a way that you can actually start earning with those and most of these have the most outlandish
dumb shit that i've ever seen on a vape like in vegas some dude had one that you'd hit it and the
constellation would come up and it would like show you it's an aries and all this crazy shit
so anyway they're just making it to where you don't have to spend the $300, $400 on their high-end fucking vape.
And you can just go buy a little $10 toss away from the store and put something on or attach some type of marker and get paid.
So I think I have three projects up here you guys can look into.
Obviously, I talked about this one on the show on Wednesday, Hyper Farmer.
It's basically an ohm fork on Hyper Liquid.
They say that there's going to be an announcement tomorrow.
And they said they have Hypo, Hypers, Hyper Intern, and Auto-Wan HLs are going to help
them harvest.
From my understanding, this is going to be some pre-sale.
And so it looks like if you are a Hypo that you'll you'll be able to get into this presale when it does launch.
We'll see if an Ohm fork can actually work on Hyperliquid.
I found one called Poll.Fun.
Bet on anything using Apple Pay and iMessage backed by AllianceDowl, no token.
Basically, you can create polls.
And if people do your polls, you can get paid out.
And you can do these in iMessage, which is kind of crazy. And I also saw that in the new Apple updates, you can do polls inside
there. So maybe that's some kind of thing that they're planning on using that kind of technology
to go farther. And then the last one is also backed by Alliance DAO, which is ShoutDoutFun.
I don't know if it's by Alliance. Yeah, it's Alliance DAO. It's the first launchpad built
for attention economy, built by Plague Guest Best, powered by Fantasy Top and Meteora,
backed by Alliance DAO.
You guys can read that if you're interested in it.
I'm not going to read the thread for you,
but just a few projects that caught my eye this week,
and you guys can look into it.
Alliance DAO seems to be backing everything these days, man.
Wall, fucking time.fun.
Yeah.
The quacks, the shout, like all this stuff is backed by Alliance.
So they're definitely doing a marketing push with their products and not a bad
dial to, you know, look into stuff when they are launching it.
So appreciate you guys.
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