The Future of AI and XR in Web 3

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guys and just like to share it with you guys can keep me about. Yep, I'm good. Good. Yeah, and thanks for joining guys. Again, this is Tim, the host for today's Ku Klinferr side chat and part
of the XR series that we had going on this week following the launch of Apple's new iconic glasses. I think we only have one guess remaining before we can just get started to give us a few minutes.
So why don't we just get started? We have a lot of guests and a lot to go through today. And we do have one more guest joining us from NGen who can just join us in the end and we can just switch our switches questions to the latter part of the
the talk today. So yeah, so today's the final part of the three-part series and it's a very, very special event because I have a co-host, my colleague Ben with us here today, so Ben you want to give a quick intro to yourself.
great thanks for having me and Ben Lee, I have your course for today and senior set operation officer at Ku Kuan. So we have an exciting lineup of GALGEN as today, I can wait to learn from them. All right, back to them. Awesome. And okay, so on the panel today we have XK chief chef of
Delicium we have Ivey who is a metaverse lead and of Singularity net and ecosystem leader as well as Oscar who is I believe still trying to get in so he'll be joining us later who is a chief financial officer and Chief legal officer of engine so we have a bunch of these cool
projects all from coming in from different angles to share insights into the future of XR. So why don't you guys go ahead and introduce yourselves maybe let's see XK and you want to start first? Sure, first of all thank you so much for inviting me to join the spandex so it's definitely my
pleasure to join the Sparrow and thanks for the opportunity. And hello everyone, this is Jim Quinn from the Delisium and I am the co-founder and the chief chef of the Delisium and RCTA. And yeah, that's me. Thanks a lot. Before we move on, can you give maybe a high level overview of what the DCM is for?
Those who may not be so familiar. Yeah, definitely. So, Dalysems Go is building a AI power that's a bit truer society for, you know, where one billion people and a 100 billion people living together. We have AAA game called Dalysems Center City and we have a multiple AI applications like Lucy.
the AI power the Web 3 operating system, you can check in chat to the DLSIM.com to use Lucy right now. And we have several other AI applications we will introduce later. So overall that DLSIM is a platform for AI applications in
AAA game called Delicium, synthesizer. So that's Delicium. Awesome. Can't wait to learn more about it. And let's have maybe from from from from singularity net. Do you want to go ahead and introduce yourself? Yeah, sure. So hi all. I mean, maybe thank you so much for having
Thank you all for listening in as well. So yeah, I'm a single-leartinets ecosystem leader and a metaverse lead and also a CMO actually for hyper cycle as well. So single-leartinets is a decentralized AI ecosystem. We have a decentralized AI marketplace, a single-leartinets and we're building an ecosystem of decentralized AI applications as well.
So we're doing things in the metaverse world media decentralized computing DeFi you name it we have it So yeah, that's what we do we exist already for six years previously known us with the aji token and now we have the aji x token Awesome. Yeah, so let's
So let's move on to the questions we've prepared for you guys. Maybe XK from Delicium, you can start first, and then we can keep the questions for Engine at the end. So XK, I'd like to know first and foremost, how will AI revolutionize
the experience of Web3 and how is Delicium in particular contributing to that experience overall? Yeah, this is a very good question. So actually, like several weeks ago, I saw some people say that even the AI is super hot right now, but AI and blockchain does now really fix together.
actually not. So we can see the problem and questions from two different perspectives at one is like how AI can revolutionize the experience of a Web 3 or how F3 can do something for the AI space. So my point today is probably because a lot of people in
how to use the decentralized structure to make the AI more safe and secure or whatever. That's so cool. But I think that AI also, like to be honest, AI is super powerful and definitely AI would definitely like a revolutionized the experience of a lot of software industries. I think that for
from a certain perspective that we have a software industry. So AI can definitely revolution every experience of Warp3. I'll give you an example. We have a application called Lucy. And you can check as I mentioned before that you can check Lucy on deletium.com and how we use AI to improve
the experience of your Web 3 journey is like previously we used like a GUI with Graphic your base that I use in the face to navigate your experience in Web 3. Like we click, we are visiting different kinds of like a website or we click, we look through the graphics on the web page and
We jump across different web page to finish our combination of different protocols like operations. But within Lucy, we can use playing natural language not only like because people know that chat GPT can provide you information, but we are building something like auto GPT for crypto. So that you can use like
playing natural language like transfer me like transfer like a one USDT to kukou in dietriage then lose you will like help you to execute this this thing and you can combine different kinds of operations that could use my B.O.Y. to borrow some if
from some certain lending platform and use the ETH to stake in LIDO and get some STETH and use the ETH and ETH as a pair in curve and use the curve token to do something else. All you need to do is to describe all your needs in one sentence.
and the AI will execute for you smoothly. And you can also say that I can see the fluctuation of the market by me 25 like a KCC if the KCC's price goes up like every 25 USD heat. So you can simply execute
your trading strategy by describing your trading strategy to the AI simply use plain natural language and you can image that you can do a lot of things by talking to the AI and the AI platform our our plan of the Lucy will give you a new
simple solutions to help you like finish complete and execute what do you want to do in a very simple way. So in general, this is a good example. I think everybody should check out product and we will release a new version in the future, like near future.
And in general, AI is very, very powerful. It can be more and more powerful in the future as a tool for improving your efficiency. And definitely Web 3 is pretty raw in terms of different kinds of tools and experience. AI can definitely
bring into another level of experience and make it so simple for average users, especially for the next building average users who does not really want to know all kinds of different protocols. You may already feel like it is so complicated and hard to learn the details of all different
different kinds of protocols because there are a lot, but AI can definitely reduce your burden of navigating your experience of Web3. So that's my take and I hope you can spend a little bit more time in AI+ Web3 so that you will say, "Second me to me, thank you to me later."
That's my answer. That's it. Great. Very insightful. Yeah, XK. I have to say make me very curious about your Lucy. So to further explore the topic. So XK, I should one question. So the competition of AI and XR technology is truly exciting. So can
When you share some potential use cases where two technology can be integrated to create unique and immersive experience. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's also a very interesting question. I've pondering in my head for a very long time in the past like a week. I'll give you one project case we are doing right now.
In a pasta or a mousque. Here's the story that I have at Nis who is the artistic like a child. You know, artistic people cannot really communicate with other people because they have some problem in other people's world. So for their entire lifetime, they cannot really live on their own.
need somebody else to take care of them. So it probably can be very burdened some family, the parents, the schools, and friends probably need to take care of the autistic child until they're like, yeah, until they're sent to some institutions.
But the problem is, if we don't teach the artistic people a lot of instructions, they need to follow. Because they cannot remember so many kinds of rules. They need to deal with or get along with people. They need to remember that we will talk about something else.
something that they need to do something and you talk about something that needs to do something else, they can now remember. So if we can do this, probably we have a very magical, very interesting, even beyond helping them, autistic people, that we are doing a project, we use, we can
We are combining the technology of a large language model, we are combining the technology of AR, we are combining the technology of AR, the large language model and the natural learning processing and the pattern recognition. So that if we combine them together and making a software
application that when autistic people get along with other people, regular people, and the AI can be the, you know, separate brain to help autistic people to process the information outside, because previous silicon now do them by their own.
So if they wear this kind of AI, AR, where like, and AI assist the inside, and the AI can process the, you know, the words, the upside party says, says, talk about. And the, you know, face expression,
the opposite of the people that are text people talking to and AI can give them a very straightforward guidance and instructions so that our text of people can know how to get along with other people. If we keep doing it and improving this kind of a software
probably in the future, autistic people can live on their own. They can purchase by things they need. They can get along with people. They can even take public transportation by their own. They can ask for help if they need.
And there are like over 70 million autistic people in the world. If we can improve their living conditions, they will be very huge. And you know that in the US and China, what in '68, in newborn child, is that diagnosis was never
like diagnosed as like autistic child. So if we can make, you know, AR glasses as a, you know, a tool for improving the life conditions of our system, people, that would be very huge. So that's one very important case I want to share today that we use like
AR glasses with the AR assistant inside AR glasses to help 70 million people to improve their life conditions. Otherwise, they will not be able to live on their own for their entire lifetime. So that's one thing I would love to share today.
Awesome. Thank you very much, XK. I really appreciate it. I'd love to dive deeper into it later, maybe at the end, if some audience members have any questions to ask you. Perfect timing, because I think Oscar is here with us.
I'm Oscar Franklin Than, I'm the chief financial officer in the chief legal officer of engine. We're one of the largest
all this NFT gaming projects dating back to 2017. We've been doing NFT infrastructure for five years. We had the world's first NFT gaming ecosystem long before the word NFT was invented. So what we did was we created an end
and app player that lets even indie game developers integrate NFT technology into an ordinary game. You can be a solo developer, you can use our app player ranging from a marketplace to a mobile wallet and you can have blockchain in your game for 48 hours within 48 hours.
Oscar I think we lost it. Yeah, go ahead. Hello. It's not very clear. Hi, sorry. Hello.
Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, so we launched the world's first NFT gaming ecosystem and we're talking about AI and XR today, right? So we think that there's one big use case to talk about and that's going to be gaming, right? It's going to benefit from both
And what makes it difficult to launch a game, right? If you're an ordinary game developer and there are thousands of people trying to launch games every week, right? It's hard enough to design a game hard enough to code the game hard enough to create all the art the content the copy that goes into a great game.
What? AI makes that faster and cheaper. XR opens up so many different modules to make that more immersive. You're going to have an explosion of content. What's the best solution?
to track all that content, track what's authentic, track what was actually created, track the provenance of items, and it's blockchain, it's Web 3. And that's exactly what we prepared for. Like everything our ecosystem was doing the last five years was to prepare for this inflection point.
when it's just easier than ever to launch a good game. And we think, you know, that's going to be the best use case for M3. So we have affinity. And it's a blockchain that's custom built with NFT transactions at the protocol level.
Like there are there are things that an NFT specific blockchain can do that general blockchains aren't Just don't do things like batch transfers of tokens that has no equivalent for a fungible token normal fungible token or payments chains. Yeah, we have we have prepared Taiwan is
We have something we call beam, a QR code based distribution system for NFTs. And we have our own mobile wallet. All that, you can plug into an ordinary game, even by a solo studio. And you have NFTs ready to go. We've proven this since 2019.
Right, so diving deeper into that subject, Oscar, with the growing interest in anti-gaming and digital ownership, what do you think are the key elements needed to support the max wave of anti-gaming models and issues?
to change when there's ownership for users? I think it's what I described. All of us are talking about use of blockchain, use of AI, use of XR. But we have to look many steps ahead. We have to think, well,
This technology is wonderful, but ultimately we have to ask what it's going to be used for. Even though that might seem obvious to some of us, the execution takes a lot more thinking in detail than anyone ever anticipates. It's really to bring the
the cost of integrating all these solutions including blockchain and make it accessible. The technology is there. Everyone is talking about the new headset. You can have this amazing XR technology but it's $3,500.
So not necessarily accessible to the ordinary home enthusiasts. So on a broader scale, that's exactly the problem for mass adoption for NFT gaming. Yeah, we have this amazing blockchain technology, but remember that being a game developer is
completely different from being a blockchain developer. The skill sets the language. It's just completely different. So if you're going to ask an indie game developer on top of everything else you asked to worry about, to hire blockchain developers at the least $100,000 a year, then not
Many NFT games are going to get built that way. So you need a lot of tools to bring access to web 3 solutions to ensure authentic digital ownership to combine with what AI and XR let you do. And that's what engines been doing for the last five years.
Awesome. Thank you very much for sharing Oscar. And last but not least, we have IBI again from Singularity Nets. We did not forget about you guys. Yeah, so I'd like to know what for you guys, what is the role of AI NPCs in the metaverse? Right, so.
If when you're going into the metaverse quite frequently you only see sometimes like other users non AI users let's let's call humans alright so you know just like you know any ordinary business like for example coffee shop it needs it needs staff to grow it needs staff to need
So, you know, sell, you know, the shop to and the coffee to, you know, the customers essentially. And similarly, you know, metaverse also need that they need AI and PC bots to engage in skill, you know, the experience within the metaverse. Otherwise, you'll find yourself perhaps so quite lonely there.
trying to explore it. And, you know, these AI NPCs, they can provide like versatile assistance, like way beyond just, you know, normal dialogue, like they can do like social emotional relationship building, they can have really body language, they can have skills to assist in real life, they can have access
to common data basis and custom databases perhaps that you provide. They can help you as a tutor through learning within a metaverse, for example, entertainment, like one of the things that we also found important is what if you just have to
to AI NPCs in a metaverse having a conversation together that you pass by and you can listen into that and you can participate. It really adds this life-like elements essentially to the metaverse. They can help generate goals and drive engagement. So let's say that you put something new in
and your metaverse, like a new building, a new event building, then these AI and PCs can tell others about it and try to drive them through it so they can help with the call to actions. And they can also be blockchain savvy, right, the news wall wallets and tokens and encapsulated agents. So they can essentially enhance anything and also be
like environmentally aware so let's say that you are you know suddenly wearing as a wearable you're wearing some wings or whatever right then your AI obviously should know that it can fly right and it can maybe you know sort of play into that as well so and it also is aware of the world around it like where is exactly where
is also important for an AI NPC. So with AI NPCs, you can really bring the life into the metaverse and feel that you're in a vibrant environment with unique characters that can help you really create a very cool experience really there.
Wow, great. I think you're definitely redefining the AI NPC because I don't know NPC for that way. So falling up on that idea, so it's fascinating to think about the possibilities of the NPCs in the matter. So can workers through like the process
of creating these NPCs. Right, right. So we're actually working at SingularityNet also with Sofiaverse, which is by the way launching soon. So at Sofiaverse, check it out. But we're working on an AIDE. So basically it's a developer environment within the metaverse and this developer environment within the metaverse
allows developers to create tests and manage AIs across many versus apps and engines. So basically you go to our to our environments. You will have a sort of a hybrid system, right? So one part is LLM. You know, you can just generate, you know, prompts that are related. Like for example, maybe I want to create a
a crypto expert or something like that, right? I can use an LLM for that. It can generate for me some prompts and language and characteristics and whatever. But perhaps I also wanted to say very specific things like maybe Kucoin has a very specific Learn and Earn program that is being activated next week and I want this AI and
So we have a hybrid system. We currently use obsidian to populate manually the details that we want AI NPCs to tell, like a discount code, a location specifically, or an event specifically, or whatever, something like that.
generate really the character in the dialogue around that and to really give it life essentially. So with this platform that we're building, you can go there, you can create, test and manage your own AI, and then you can deploy it to various versions, apps and engines. So we want to create bridges, you know, to Unity, which we're already doing right now, then we also want to do Unreal WebGPU,
You can then eventually want to build bridges with Decentral Land as well so you can really create your AI NPC within our environment, within our AI IDE environment, and then you can push it to Decentral Land or to VR Chats or Neol, Meta Horizon, Roblox, whatever you want essentially. You can even just make it a
just the chat-based one so that it really is a metaverse role. We know what would be really cool. You know, this character lives in a metaverse, but you can also chat with it on Telegram. It's the same character. It needs to be fluid essentially throughout this technical architecture to really be interoperable in a metaverse and to be, oh, just cool, basically.
We're creating very accessible tools for this. We're even connecting WordPress to it. Everybody knows WordPress. One in three websites run on WordPress. We're actually chose that one as a content management system to start with because everybody can start with WordPress.
And then deploy that into your chatbot and build it as such, so to say. So we really want to have a tool for you to create AI indices, and you can deploy them wherever you want. And you can train them, make them custom, and manage them as such in our AI IDE.
Awesome and thanks Ben for the claps. Yeah, let's sound for the first time. Okay, so I like to leave some time for audiences to ask some questions. I will select you guys randomly from the audience. So if you have any questions, please read
requests. I see a lot of hands up here. First up, we have spot. Spot, do you want to unmute yourself? And yeah, thank you for bringing me up to ask my question. You know, my question is,
As a strategy do intend to produce your documents in other languages so that you gain mass adoption, maybe languages like Chinese, Arabic. So who are you asking? Yeah.
for the AI DE that we're creating. It's quite low code. But we would also, of course, in the different languages as soon as possible. That would be amazing.
with English though. Oscar or XK do you guys have anything to add? Maybe some expansion plans in terms of geographic markets and localization? Yeah, definitely. We are, because some of our teammates are Chinese, some of them are Korean, so we are active.
to implement, do the application to like Korean language or Chinese language. So definitely expanding to different markets and bring the new technology and the new experience to different group of people definitely is a mission of us.
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I think geography is a very important point. I think web 3 and blockchain actually democratizes access and it reminds us that there are many geographies that are very important to web 3. Some of our biggest engagement comes from large developing markets.
from India to Indonesia to the Philippines and Vietnam to Turkey to Nigeria. So all these places are important to us. We have a very global reach and we want to make sure to include everybody.
Yeah, for sure. And to add to that, by the way. So as we'll start out with English, we actually have like multiple different LLM's that will connect to it. So, you know, GPT for all, which is kind of like an open source chat GPT for example, or Hogface or ZARCA from Singularity Net is a decentralized LLM model.
So within the AIDE we can actually connect like any of these LLMs. So we'll be like exploring like the best LLMs per language as well because that might differ too, right? But definitely like, you know, or you think for the world is what we will do. Yeah. We should definitely connect. I mean, for
Now of course we're very grateful to our community members who volunteered to translate all our stuff. Awesome. Let's move on to the next audience member. We have Ted up here. Go ahead Ted. And if you have a question directed at any specific guest, please, please clarify. Thanks.
So my question is to singularity and I also want to know I believe that the team has some letters, innovations, they plan to like implement the project. So I also want to like I share with you some of the latest innovations or features that you plan to like implement in the project
for this year since we had us come into an end of the quarter of the year 2023. Sorry, I didn't quite get that. Can you repeat maybe a bit slower Ted? Okay, so I was in that we had us get into an end of the quarter of the year 2023.
So I don't sort of know like I believe they seem has some latest innovations like features of products. They seem planned to like implement for DC for the project. So I don't know like I kind of like share with awesome of those approach features or products you have in mind for the project. Right. So you're out.
So, we're working on ZARCA, which is a decentralized large language model.
with chat GPD to demonstrate a little bit of the difference. Chat GPD is trained on internet data, right? But internet data is not all of the data that we have, like we have databases full of data that are not, you know, accessible on the internet, right? So, so for example, hospital data or whatever, right? So this DLM will actually, you know, allow
So basically how you should imagine it is that you have like a chatbot, you have like a list of LLMs you can pick from. Some LLMs may be better in one thing than another, right? And then you pick your favorite
at a lab you generated with that and you train it as such. And we will also like integrate embeddings from OpenCog and AGI reasoning, for example, to improve the reasoning capabilities of these chat bots as well. And so we will integrate in this basically in the next coming year.
We're working on this so I would expect that by the end of this year you'll have some single-air internet products available for AI chatbot generation in the meta. Awesome thanks for sharing Ibi and last but not least I think we have time for one more one more on each number up here so we have young go ahead.
Okay, so if not, wait give me one second. Why don't I ask the same question for both of you guys off-screw or xk? I think xk did something to add any any any upcoming plans for the rest of the second half of this year anything cool you guys are launching?
So you are actually going to be right? I'm asking you and Oscar, but you can go ahead first. Yeah, definitely. So besides the Lucy part and the project that designing for the artistic people, actually we have been in the area of like a
NPC for over four years. I'm glad to see that more players getting into this space. So definitely one space we have being explored for a very long time is like a NPC or we call it intelligent NPC. So we have
release some virtual beings in the site, our community, and in the future we will release more and more like AI virtual beings. And also we will release a platform so that you can create your AI copies. This is also very interesting features under the Delizium AI
platform. So think about that if you can use the simple tools to create out a self that you can share the link to any kinds of like platform on Instagram or TikTok or Twitter or whatever and your friends and followers can
like talk to the AI copy of yourself and they can pay a certain amount of money no matter what in field or in our token HGI and to subscribe the subscribe to your like AI copies and talking to you
all the time. That would be very cool. And so that in the future you can bring your AI stuff into or AI copies into the virtual world. And I once we release that kind of like platform, I encourage everybody to check it out and create a copy of your
yourself and share the link of your AI copy to your friends and to your followers and to see the experiment how your AI copies were engaged and communicate with other humans. That would be interesting.
That's cool. We also have a project called Twin Protocol that is going to be doing something quite similar. So you basically completed it like all your data and stuff. And actually, in fact, I've actually started to create a digital clone of myself that I'm going to try to try to have as my double basically.
my mission to see, well, can I can I replace myself before others do that? But yeah, that's cool. Yeah, I mean, I want to take a look at yourself. Right, right, just take charge, right? Take, take ownership in this whole AI revolution. Like, don't wait for it. Just go for it, right? So, yeah, so, so like, yeah, definitely
creating these digital twins super useful. I mean next to that also, you know it's executives, you get a lot of questions from everybody in your company, from the community. I wish I could answer everybody in the community just to shout out to the Ajax community. I love you all. So this sort of digital twin may allow you to kind of like skill yourself as well, you know, in management and in
executive as an executive too. So I'm really excited about these digital twin technologies really a lot. So I'm curious to see how that will take a role. And I think that especially in the digital twin technology side, like we have to focus on how can we decentralize this for the people, right? Because it's about, you know, the regular people first.
that are scared of losing their job, perhaps, but how can they become owners, essentially, of these twins? And how can they create something that works for them? And how can they participate in the AI economy? It's so important. So yeah, I'm very happy to see that you're also working on that. And yeah, we should go for it. >> Deppel, in terms of, like, since we talking about
about average people, we were talking about disabled people as well. I guess our project, who is helping autistic people in terms of wearing AR glasses and using AS system to help them live on their own. One very interesting perspective is autistic people probably can be the
first revenge of people to be the superhuman because they were like be the first revenge of human or homo sapiens that co-living or co-exist with AI entirely because normal people probably wear the air glasses and sometimes they don't wear the air glasses but autistic people probably be the
First adventure of Homo sapiens that live with Aya entirely and they will be the first adventure of superhuman as well. That will be very interesting to discuss as well. But we don't have more time today but yeah, probably catch up next time we talk about that as well. Yeah, let's get some time for Oscar as well. Oscar divinning dad.
Let me just let me be brief. So we've had a lot of major announcements this year. Stay tuned. We may have one coming very soon. Just follow us on Twitter, EN, JIN, and I don't think you'll be disappointed. We're working in the close beta of our proprietary marketplace
nft.io. Love that domain name. We recently launched the upgraded version of our NFT mobile wallet, the engine wallet. And we might have something big coming up. Again, follow us on Twitter if you want to be the first to know. >> Love great.
Great, thanks for sharing, I think it's been a lot of great insight for sharing, so I would like to ask the last questions for all of you, so to echo a little bit about topics a big, I would ask, how do you guys think of the future of AINXR and how
your project connected to these two sectors. So I want Oscar to answer first and following by XKs and ED. Like I said, we think if Web 3 is the last connection between AI and XR and gaming is the biggest, most
the most exciting use case and we've been preparing for the last five years. You can create new immersive experiences with XR. You can create so much more content, much more quickly, much cheaper with AI. Web3 allows you to combine
that allows you to try all sorts of new types of gaming models, economic models, governance models, world building models. So again, just watch how all this is applied in gaming. Don't focus only on AI. Think several steps ahead and think where they're going to be used for.
And you want to be there before everyone else. Yeah. So, so as I mentioned before that we have a lot of projects connected and AI plus like XR and also don't get me wrong that I am we are all crypto people. So Web 3 and crypto probably can be the fundamental layer of all the products because
So that Web 3 and crypto blockchain technology can make it more safe and more equal even. So Web 3 and crypto technology will be the fundamental hidden layer of all our product. And as I mentioned before that AR XR plus AI project that we are developing is something that to help the disabled people
to become a super human in the future probably no more people can wear AI glasses with AI assistant inside that so that I give you a straightforward guidance of doing anything so that probably everybody can become like a super human in the future so I am very interested
I'm a very interesting team. I'm very interested to explore that. Any feedback and thoughts that we'd love to hear, DM me and open. Great. We have ED. I think that AI
is all about how we want to interact with the world, right? And I feel that that is why it is so important to decentralize AI and to have, you know, governance about AI with the people. And I think that, for example, projects like Sofia verse, they give a great opportunity for everybody to contribute to Sofia
the robots brain by contributing their AI, by voting about it, by helping to find units and whatever. In essence, like this metaverse environment, I kind of like see it as a, as a kind of, it's for gamers as well, but it's also kind of like a simulation of the world, right? For how do we want things to run and how do we program that? If we really think about every single
detail as you do when you're designing these metaverses, how it looks like, how it functions, how it works, etc. You may be actually questioning some things in the current world and maybe you think, "Oh, actually I would want it to be different," right? This would be actually better if we do it this way. So I feel that AI, blockchain, and the metavers together, it really gives us an opportunity
to kind of like rethink a little bit how we're doing things in the world. Can we should be changing perhaps some things there, you know, and how do we really interact with this world? And this can also just help us really grow as a society, grow our knowledge, our education, meet like, you know, other people, get new experiences, be open also to new experiences that you maybe would have never
had before unless you've added like in a VR experience right? I remember one time I did a I didn't experience I think was notes on blindness I'm not sure if you guys know it but that one taught me how it would be like if I was blind essentially so it's like a blackout experience purely audio based with a little bit of highlights here and there to
indicate where the sound is from, but that really opens up your mind and to experience, as also Dlissium said, for disabled people, right? Did you get a bit of view on their lives as well? So I think that this really gives us an opportunity to kind of like rethink how are we interacting with the world, how are we interacting with tech, and what do we want it to do for us?
And in that we can decide together, you know, in a democratized decentralized way, what do we really want? And this is really a big opportunity, I see. I see it at the time, and I hope that we'll do it correctly, because it's just an amazing opportunity for us all. Awesome. Thank you so much, Ibi, and I'd like to
I have a special thanks to Ben for co-hosting for the very first time and then obviously our esteemed panelists. You guys are very exciting projects and I'm very -- and I definitely agree with with a lot of what you guys said. I think you know the future is really about the convergence of these three technologies despite everything going
on in the macro side of things. I definitely think they're very exciting projects and very exciting times ahead. As always, everything said here is only for informational and educational purposes and not investment advice. So this wraps up our
Our three part series for around XR and really appreciate everyone for taking the time to tune in. I see a lot of familiar faces in the audience so I'd like to thank you guys again. Ben, do you have anything to add before we wrap things up?
- No, thank you for having me today, Tim, and thanks for all coming today, and I'd like to talk to you guys very soon. - All right, thanks guys. - Thanks everybody.
Thank you. Thank you so much. Bye bye.