The Multi-chain Internet of Things with Robonomics Network

Recorded: Nov. 25, 2022 Duration: 0:42:28

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We're just waiting a few more minutes here for our speakers to all come up on the stage. We're going to start in probably three to four minutes, I think. Hi, Lima. Welcome. How's it going?
Not too bad, just on Frank Fett on my way to sub zero, good to Lisbon tomorrow.
Oh nice, nice, nice, that's super exciting. I wish I could join like so many others that are stuck over here in North America right now. Yeah, do you guys have anybody from Da'Wenia? Come in, excuse me, we're here.
We know what unfortunately, it's not very good timing for our team right now. Denny was considering attending, but I think it just didn't work out for him unfortunately. So, Jim, hopefully catch one of you guys in 2023.
for sure. Yeah. I plan to attend a couple of events in 2023 for sure. I'll probably be at the big ones in North America. That is if everything goes according to plan. Let's see. Yeah, hopefully.
So yeah, I'm super excited for this AMA. Robonomics is one of the first projects that really got me interested in the Polkadot ecosystem. And it's been a couple of years now, I think, since I've heard the project for the first time. So I'm really interested in hearing about what you're doing these
So let me see here. Do we have is Michael using the Robo-nomics account? I think he might be if he's if that's requested. It might be him. Okay.
and maybe Vitaly can come up as well
Okay. Often we get people wanting to ask questions, putting their hands up very, very early. So, I'm not sure who it is that we need to invite up. Go everyone.
All right, so is there anybody else for your writing for?
Well, the little dynamics account, I think, is Michael himself is the organomics requested?
I don't see him. He should be coming on soon. I think you forgot that you can't do this from this top. So he's just joining from mobile. Oh no, that happens.
How South America for you?
Are you asking me? I'm actually in Canada on the West Coast. Oh, yeah. So it's pretty snowy up here right now. Oh, wow.
Yeah, we're expecting some really cold weather. It'll be -25 or something at my place in the next couple of days. Oh, wow. That's, uh, that's significant. It is. Yeah, especially this year, the weather seems to have turned straight from summer straight into winter.
I think we had plus 50 in one day and then mine is 25 a couple days later. And that's already happened once this year. OK, looks like we got Michael here.
All right. So I guess we can get started. Can you can you hear me Michael?
And these guys, let's see if we can kind of up here again.
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Okay, we're just waiting for Michael to accept the invitation.
I really hope they fix Twitter spaces so you can access it by a desktop. It'll be a lot better I think.
definitely I think most of us that have been using these spaces for a while are waiting for that feature and being able to emote on desktop as well at the very least.
Okay, so Michael, can you hear me? Yeah, yeah, you do. Can you hear me? Awesome. We can hear you. There's a little bit of an echo though. Sorry, let me speak for this for a second.
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Yeah, now it should be better.
Okay. It doesn't appear to be.
Anyway, maybe when I need my mic, it'll get better on your end. So I wonder if you just want to go ahead and introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about your background in crypto's before we move on to talking about Robynomics.
Yeah, yeah, sure. I've been with the Robotomics for two years now and honestly before I joined Robotomics I didn't actually What's that much into crypto because I was studying in the university and had a lot of stuff going on
But yeah, I joined two years ago and mainly I was working with in customer development side of things and automation. So I've been talking to a lot of potential customers who are product, the IoT engineers, robotics engineers,
engineers, sorry, RIS developers, smart home users, people who are going to in the future, use our product, hopefully. So yeah, that's what I've been doing. And yeah, this is how I got there.
Nice, nice. So the key word is robotics and automation, I guess. So can you tell us a little bit about RoboNomics and how the project gets started and what you're trying to achieve? Yeah, yeah, sure. RoboNomics is basically an open source platform for IoT applications, which supports
the map 3 and then implement the exchange of technical and economic information in the form of transactions between the users applications, IoT services and complex robotics, which in turn empowers smart cities development and the overall development of the industry
So yeah, this is the general explanation and due to the last year what we've been doing is we've been a parachute and a Samo for a nearly nearly a year now and through that time we kept working and developing so throughout this year we have been working with our
decentralized application a lot. We brought to life the opportunity for the users to actually buy the subscription from Rabanomics in decentralized application and use it for their smart home setup to get rid of any centralized cloud providers and get rid of more
multiple problems that come with using centralized cloud providers. So our integration is based on the Home Assistant application for smartphone. Maybe you guys know about it. So yeah, besides that, we have been implementing new educational materials on Robonomics Academy.
For example, we made a server-in-smart home course, which aims to educate users on exactly how you can set it up, how you can set up a program x integration with Home Assistant, and being full control over your smart home and your data, which comes with it.
Apart from this course, we also made two other courses. In one of them, you can remotely control Boston Dynamics spot. And I guess Vitalik can later talk about it a bit more. But basically, it's a great showcase of how a robot as a service model, business model can be
implement using the Robonomics platform. Also we created a course where we educate people on how to interact with Robonomics Parachand, like an overall introduction course on how you can set up a subscription, what is Robonomics, what is Parachand, how you can interact
the parishes and stuff. The course is made really good and I believe it will be interesting for you guys to try and go through it and won't take a lot of your time but I assure you that this is a great experience. What else? What else? Yeah so basically we're
also made a grant program and we have passed two grants to developers to create a better showcasing use cases for robotics. There is an article in our blog about how we set up this grant program and yeah we are immensely proud
How have we been working through this year with Kusama Parachain and managed to develop a working solution for civilized smart home and create multiple educational purposes for community? So I guess that's a summary of our year's work.
Very nice. Sounds really exciting. So at this point, and going into the future, is the product going to be more for end users, say for home automation, or configuring their own Internet of Things? Or is it going to be more for developers? For now, we are trying to focus more
on the people who are going to set up their own smart home. We are trying to connect with the people who are currently using a home assistant and tell them more about our integration and onboard as much users as possible into
our integration because it really could be helpful for this community because our integration solves basically two main issues that are now currently presented in the smartphone industry. First of all, using the Bannerx, you can access all of your private
data and not give it to any vendor or any third party. And besides that, you can solve the central point of failure issue because there was a case in, I believe, 2017 when Amazon Web Services crashed and people were like out of
connection with their own devices for several hours. And yeah, that could happen. Also, internet service providers can interfere with your connection. And when you're using a problem with platform, you won't face any issues in this matter.
for sure. So are you working with like on the home automation side? Are you working with existing devices or brands? Do you have your own specialized devices? No, we are working with the ZIGB devices. There is a special list that could be found in a smartphone section of Robonomics Web site.
where you can see all the devices that are compatible with the home assistant and for that matter with the robonomics integration. Yeah, basically all the devices that can connect to Zigbee can connect to robonomics. Oh, very nice. So there are probably
hundreds or more of those I use a few of them at my own home. So that's good to know that people can use Zigbee devices. So what is them? So that's the current functionality. And I'm wondering going into the future, I've been brainstorming a lot myself on my own and also with just
You're here and there with community members about use cases for Internet of things and kind of sensor networks and you know physical trigger networks based on proximity, etc. Just wondering from your perspective, what are some of the most exciting use cases for open on its? Like going in the future?
There are a lot of possible implementations. As I mentioned, the smart form integration also besides that, for example, you can create a drone fleet for delivering packages and doing it completely autonomously where drones can act as a
economic agents like delivering packages, getting the payment on their own wallets and then using this payment for self-replacement, basically buying things to keep them going.
Besides that, we have been thinking about autonomous cars, for example, on the road. There is a case where research article, which indicates that there is a possibility to pay for, when you, for example, in the traffic jam and you're in a autonomous car, which is able to send an accept
payments. First of all, you can pay in other cars for making a room for you to move on. So you pay more and you get to the endpoint faster. Other case for autonomous cars is self-charging, for example, if it's in the electric
car, you can just, yeah, your car would be able to charge itself with using its own wallet for payment for the charging. Yeah. Yeah, also, guys, if you, if you have some cases in mind, please, please do share.
Yeah, hey, I think it's the use case on the home automation that we touched upon and discussed is probably the most important in the short run because it's so clear forever
Everybody at least in our community that we need to take control of our data and our home devices are the most personal one of the most personal things we have and that is why we are particularly Excited about starting with
with IoT home IoT applications and making sure that it will be as easy as possible to onboard to Web 3 technologies in your smart home. But if we're talking more about industrial use cases, I'm excited about robots with
service ideas. I see in robotics industry that robots have becoming more and more autonomous in what they can do in both closed environments like factories and warehouses. But also exceedingly we see robots more and more now everyday life.
Rover delivery start-up starting to appear hotel and waiter deliveries and things like that. And I think that those robots need to have an infrastructure for keeping track of what missions they're running, especially when
there are multiple clients working with them that essentially multiple stakeholders have to have access and working with the same asset and here Web3 technology is actually a uniquely position to solve that. So that's from my ideas.
very interesting. So Robonomics has a platform to coordinate jobs for these robots that are performing various services and maybe as somewhat like contract workers that move from from factory to factory or where else to warehouse. Super cool. Yeah. Use cases could be
different both from a more long term uses where there is more similar to lease and there could be interesting options with asset financing. To more short term where exactly as you describe where one robot could work in multiple facilities and essentially be like yeah a contract worker.
Super cool. So another benefit of using the platform is for a state control of user data and more and more of these days we're concerned with the centralized hosting of that data. I don't need to mention FTX and other exchanges these days.
in this spotlight. But I'm just wondering in that regard and for users to take back control of their data, where's the data that you're hosting located? Is that on-chain somewhere or with a partner or is that in some kind of like traditional database somewhere?
We store the data in the IPFS, but yeah, talking about challenges, we had an issue because you cannot store like a very big packages of data, for example, logs,
from the robots in IPFS. So we had to find a partner for that. So we partnered with the cross network and we are now exploring how we can work for the mutual
benefit and store a big amount of the data in crust. And most of the data goes to the IPFS, the hash and the hash from the IPFS data goes to Robonomics Blockchain.
Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, we're particularly excited about cross-partnership between being first is we we have a lot of data storage needs and having an opportunity within Polkodotic ecosystem to also
have access to storage network, which is really, really neat for us. That's why we started with this integration, because that's just in all use cases, the robotics works on, we generate a ton of data.
needed to store it. So that's kind of one of the unique benefits of Polkura and Polkura ecosystem. They're sure, yeah, really exciting what Prost is doing over there with the protected enclaves for data. Yeah.
that they're really providing a service that's useful for almost every parent. So are there any other partners you're working with or thinking of working with in the future that will enable certain features that you're wanting to incorporate into the chain?
Well, right now we are only mainly focusing on crust and to explore the storage of the large scale data.
But in the future, I guess we'll explore the multiple projects that can help us to establish the connection with other chains.
For example, we have recently partnered with Monariber, so you can find XSXRT there, which I believe is great. And yeah, we're looking forward to find new integrations and new collaborations.
Awesome. So I'm just curious, where you are in current development progress and what your roadmap looks like going forward into the next year.
Excuse me. Could you repeat this one?
Just curious where you are in terms of development progress right now and where you're going leading into next year. We are focusing on make our decentralized application as user friendly as possible and we are looking forward to
So some challenges that are coming up with it, for example, right now, the main challenge is to unchain the user from using, from creating himself a polka.gs account and automate all of this process because to send a command to you device you have
have to interact with your seed phrase multiple times. And we want to get rid of that to make it as easy for user as possible. Yeah. And we are working mainly and focusing mainly on creating a user-friendly
decentralized application for smartphone. This is our region into the future and yeah besides that we are going to improve our educational courses because we do believe that it's very important for the newcomers especially
for our homo-system users to see what the blockchain is because they, from my experience, I have been talking to them and it is a concern for them to use technology that they have no experience whatsoever.
That's why we decided that this educational material is really important and our science team is working very tight to make them as clear as possible and as user fan this possible. But yeah guys, with Ali, Limov, feel free to add something because that's all from Marseille.
Yeah, I mean from the kind of smart home direction, you definitely have to lower the kind of friction or the barrier to entry to get like my adoption. So like Michael said, making it so maybe you don't have to use the Pugnant JS extension.
All that kind of stuff will only help us get more users. The user base for home assistant right now is quite large. It's in like the hundreds of thousands of people. I would actually really recommend that anybody listening if you're maybe a bit into your smart home or IoT stuff. You should
check out the Roblox Academy. I'm trying it myself. If I can do it, you guys can probably do it. It takes a bit of kind of getting used to, but after like an hour or so, you can get everything set up. And if you're a nerd like me and you kind of value your privacy a little
bit. Our implementation is really good. When you interact locally, it all works really, really quickly, like with no lag, and then to use the parachain for remote access is really secure. All you do, it doesn't get leaked somewhere, so I'd really recommend it.
Yeah, education and oh sorry by Tullig. Yeah, I just just wanted to add that besides besides that we will be working closely with about opening new XCM channels inside the pocket of
the ecosystem to find this optimal build for decentralized IoT cloud, where not only our packaging, but the packaging ecosystem in its entirety is used to solve the problems arising from the IoT world.
We're looking forward to using that. When you fill WKW guys, right now our community poolina, you can transfer ESC20 XAT tokens to the parachain using our Exodus app.
The way that that works is kind of a bit strange. Basically, you just send your xat to the Ethereum Blackhol address. Then the technical committee just mince xat for you, which is kind of
Not the best solution, but it's a whackable solution. We really need a parachain native to ESC 20 bridge, which I think you guys have a really good progress with that. So we're looking forward to working with that one here.
Thanks. Yeah, I wonder if it's a little bit early to announce that that's all right. It's good that you guys have got a bit of a working solution in any case for your parachene and solo chain.
You touched on the need for education and this phase and avoiding Polkadot.js, so I have a possible user experience and I'm just wondering if you're working with any other wallets at the moment and making that easier for people.
So I mean, for like XM stuff, I mean I also work for NovaWallet, so I can surely a little bit maybe to make that XM experience easier for users and Nova is really good at that. But a lot of the robotomics users
will initially be on desktop. So we're like, I guess we kind of have an open invitation for people. I mean, maybe Michael of Italy can say a bit differently, but anything that reduces the friction is a very welcome to working with teams that can help us achieve that.
Yeah, yeah, full of glory here. I believe for let's say web to audience is also important to explain why the blockchain is a technology should be used in
in the IVTY, the current problems are not yet solved with the solution presented on the market. And we'll be focusing on this narrative.
awesome, I'm really excited for what you guys are working on there. And also to get started with with your tools myself, I do some or instead of some home automation
on my ends at home and I'm wondering what it would look like if I want to say port bed over to robinomics from the app I currently use on my phone what would be required there.
For that matter, you'll have to acquire a Ravsbury PI to set up your smart home. Also, you'll need to acquire a ZigBee 2 MQTT gateway.
everything else is yeah could be found in the smartphone course which takes you through all of the theory and all of the things you need to do and yeah as soon as you get this things it will be really easy well not really
easy, you'll have to spend a few hours, but you'll get there. It's not that hard, and then you will be really proud of yourself because working with smart home through the blockchain is a very nice experience.
Well, I'm really looking forward to trying that out. So you mentioned an API. Is that something that's public or something that needs to be applied for?
Sorry, could you repeat for this one? I'm not sure if I heard you correctly about you said that there's an API requirement and is there also some? Yeah, sorry, not an API but
Oh, raspberry pi. Oh, okay. I'm so sorry. Raspberry pi. Okay. No problem. So that does the pi act as the gateway itself or is there another piece of hardware that's required?
No, Rob's Repi doesn't act as a gateway. The gateway is ZigBee 2 and QtT. You'll need also to get that. Or the Zigbee Jet Stick will be acting as a gateway. Actually, guys, everyone who is interested, I do encourage
you to go into Robonomics Academy website, enter the courses and find the Smart Home Survey and setup. It will get you through everything and in the end you'll know how to set your decentralized private Smart Home from ground up.
- Good to know. Okay, so Robo-nomics Academy is what I'm gonna be looking for on the website then. - Yeah, exactly.
Nice, nice. Well, that's really, really exciting. So it's just wondering if there's anything else any of our speakers would like to add about the project perhaps something I'd like to ask about.
Not from my side guys will do you think
No, from my side, I would just really recommend the people participating in the academy. The introduction cost is really easy, it's free. Then the smart home cost is really informative if you want to control your own data.
and then the Boston Dynamics spot robot cost is really good, I've done the first lesson, it's a bit of a step but it's actually really enjoyable. Yeah I would just recommend everybody, does the academy?
Cool, we'll be sure to check that out for sure. So just before we open up to questions from our audience here, I wonder if you could let us know how we can get started other than the Robonomics Academy, but finding out what you guys are up to.
For that, you could join the Robinomics Discord, follow out Twitter. But mainly everything that comes up, we announce in the Discord first, then in Twitter. So yeah, to stay tuned on updates, join the Robinomics Discord. We're looking forward to having you there, guys.
Perfect, sounds good. So I just want to remind everyone that we're going to be doing a giveaway and not only for people that have promoted this live event but also for those who ask questions. So if you have any in mind, you put your hands up
and we get you a bond stage here to ask. And it looks like the first person we have here is light. I'm going to add now.
and lights are you able to hear me?
Light, are you there?
Yeah, we can hear you. You have a question to the book. Hey, hey, to the book. No mix is I checked on your website and I saw it being active since
2015 and essentially this actual thing in utility of naturally Nigerian and a lot of some West African countries are not adopted this
these kind of things that bring about all of the utility to the offer. My question first is how do you help people that don't really know much about these things like you guys are a YouTube channel that explain explicitly for newbies so that you can understand
Jolv distance.
Yeah, yeah, we have the YouTube channel and thanks to Lima Lima helped us with a lot of educational materials for for upcoming for newbies as you said and also I suggest you to check
out the Sergi longshake of lectures that he made for Rabaname's YouTube. They're in Russian but they do have the English subtitles so you can check them out. And as a matter of fact, because of a lot of
people who are coming in our new technology or new to our economics network. That's why we decided to make free educational courses through this year and yeah we're trying to address
education as much as we can because actually the core development team of the robonomics comes from the academy side of things. They have a lot of academy publications and they do laugh to make educational things.
All right, thank you very much. I will just checking your discord to understand you're in tears a bit.
Yeah. Thank you so much for the question, Light. Would you like to go ahead with the next one? Dustin. Hello, thanks for having me. I wanted to say to Vitaly, it was nice meeting you when you get the talk. I wish I took a picture with you, but I got to feel
the video of the the dog so that was really cool. I want to share everybody at some point. But I had a question for okay RWS, no one really talks about it. So what is going on with RWS is there
functionality or future use gate? I guess I can say a little bit maybe. We kind of announced a little bit during an in-efficient event. So right now we
I think this is links like open up a channel with Stateline and we plan next year hopefully early next year to share some information about AWS but like a high level basically the AWS token kind of acts.
as the like a permanent subscription so if you have any rest tokens in your account. It acts like a permanent version of the current like IOT subscription so your account has a guaranteed block inclusion into partying block candidates and then
Therefore, you have a guarantee of inclusion into the relay train. That's kind of the use case of AdUS. So if you're a big power user or an industrial partner, it could be really beneficial to have AdUS just so you have that guaranteed block inclusion.
All right, thank you. Yeah, I definitely am a big fan of RWS and the services that will provide for the future. So I've been really bullish since it's been out to say the least.
Great questions, Dustin. Yeah, we don't normally talk about tokenomics here, but with our WS, I think it's a little bit different compared to your normal ERC 20. So yeah, thank you so much. Is there anybody else who has any questions or in the meantime would the RoboNomics team like to add anything?
Yeah, while people are coming up with questions, I would also suggest you guys to go onto the Urbanomics Wikipedia page and there you can explore the Urbanomics Smart Home integrations and also go over the RWS talking how to buy it, how it works.
works and what's its utility. All the answers are there in the Wikipedia page. So also you'll find there are use cases and it's also a great place to get familiar with the robotics.
Nice. Well, it looks like we may be coming to the conclusion then if there's nothing else to add from the Robonomics team. We'll just give another minute to see if anyone has their hand up, but I think we're reaching the end there. So thank you so much for joining us.
I tell you Michael from Robonomics team and we're looking forward to hearing more about the project. Maybe we'll get you on again after we open channels with one another and we can talk a little bit more about cross-chain use cases at that time. But in the meantime, I'm looking forward to
to try out the service myself. So, definitely give Robonomics a follow, check out their Robonomics Academy on the website where you can learn about configuring your home automation network. And if you want to delve into more advanced studies, they've got the Boston Dynamics tutorial as well.
And yet join their discord if you want to keep up with all their latest news. So thanks again for joining us and we'll see you all again next week. We've got a Kylin team that's going to be talking about decentralized for us on Booker. So we look forward to seeing you all then and stay tuned for details about the next program.
motion which will be posted early next week. I hope you all have a wonderful day evening or wherever you are and a great weekend and we'll see you all again next week everyone. Bye bye. Thank you, Megan. Thank you. It was a pleasure being here. Bye. Thanks everyone. Bye guys. Bye. Thank you.

FAQ on The Multi-chain Internet of Things with Robonomics Network | Twitter Space Recording

Who is the speaker introducing themselves at the beginning of the podcast?
Michael, a member of the Robonomics team.
What is the focus of Robonomics?
The focus of Robonomics is on open source platform for IoT applications, which supports the MP3 and can implement the exchange of technical and economic information in the form of transactions between users, applications, IoT services, and complex robotics for the development of smart cities and industries.
What has Robonomics been working on this past year?
Throughout the past year, Robonomics has been working on the decentralized application, introducing new educational materials on Robonomics academy, creating a server-in-smart home course, remotely controlling the Boston Dynamics Spot, educating people on how to interact with the parachain, and creating a grant program to developers.
Who is Robonomics currently focusing on as their target audience?
Robonomics is currently focusing on people who are setting up their own smart home, specifically those using a home assistant and onboarding as many users as possible into their integration.
What are the two main issues Robonomics integration solves for users?
The two main issues that Robonomics integration solves for users are accessing all of their private data without giving it to any vendor or third party, and solving the central point of failure issue for internet service providers that can interfere with the user's connection.
What is the grant program that Robonomics created?
The grant program that Robonomics created is to provide developers with the opportunity to create better showcasing use cases for robotics with a focus on creating innovative solutions for smart cities and industries.
Who is Michael and how long has he been with Robonomics?
Michael is a member of the Robonomics team and has been with the company for two years.
What is Robonomics Academy?
Robonomics Academy is an educational platform where people can learn about Robonomics, its technologies, and how to interact with the Parachain.
What is the smart home integration that Robonomics has developed?
The smart home integration that Robonomics has developed is based on home assistant for smartphones, which provides users with access to all of their private data without giving it to any vendor or third party.
What is the overall goal of Robonomics?
The overall goal of Robonomics is to develop innovative solutions for smart cities and industries through its open source platform for IoT applications.