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The Polygon Shot 💜☕️
Recorded: May 3, 2023 Duration: 2:10:13Space Recording
Full Transcription
All right, hold on, hold on, hold on a second.
All my fucking wires are tangled up here.
Because your boy is trying to move shit around.
Get some people up here.
Well, really, just shotgun.
All right, well, there's four of us here.
Let's retweet the spaces.
You guys know the deal.
Just doing a quick send out here before I get the music going.
I know you guys really like the sound effects
Alright, here we go
There were a couple songs adjustments
I didn't get a chance to listen to them
So they'll probably go through tomorrow
So we're going to play my song
Okay, good talk
My mother was a sunshine soldier
Every day was a dream come true
She said that we were blessed by the breath deep inside us
She could make the colors in the sky turn blue
She said, honey, what you gonna do today?
Your second kiss in every single mark you make
You definitely gotta have some very hard days
But I'll do it right here
And she said, before I go
There is one thing you should know
I give love to all of my people
All of my people need love, I give some
I give love to all of my people
All of my people need love, I give some
I give love to all of my people
All of my people need love, I give some
Cause in the end, the love we taste
Got nothing on the love we taste
So get in love
So get in love
So get in love
She said you're gonna be alive in a cold
You got extra love for me, I'm in your veins
Some of my people feeling down, some of my people feeling empty
I got so much of this love, I gotta give it away
Hey honey, what you gonna do today
Second guessing every single moment you make
You're definitely gonna have some very hard days
But I'll be right here for you
And she said before I go
There is one thing you should know
I give love to all of my people
All of my people need love, I give some
I give love to all of my people
All of my people need love, I give some
I give love to all of my people
All of my people need love, I give some
Cause in the end, the love we taste
Got nothing on the love we taste
So get in love
So get in love
And I know I got you
Put this on repeat
It's an elementary
Cause that one plus one is two
Sprinkle love that equal three
That's a remedy
Blind man, he can even see
If you wanna get up with them
I know the recipe
It's the L-O-V-E
I know you see me
Down the avenue
They ain't going to peace
That my own reply
You know I don't even try
Yeah, I give that love
I give that love
I give love to all of my people
All of my people need love, I give some
I give love to all of my people
All of my people need love, I give some
I give love to all of my people
All of my people need love, I give some
Cause in the end, the love we taste
Got nothing on the love we taste
So get in love
Good morning, everyone.
Welcome to the Special Shot, your favorite late morning show.
Today being the Polygon Shot.
We do not have an actual shot for you to take other than our words, loud noises.
But really, just in general, just make you learn a little bit, laugh a little, have some fun.
Make sure you leave the space feeling good.
Even that means thumbs down in me personally.
It's up to you.
I don't discriminate, you know.
Yeah, no.
Guys, welcome to the show.
We do the usual stuff for the usual.
Today we got the Polygon Shot.
Today is a twofer, if I'm being honest.
Today is a twofer.
We have, obviously, this show.
And then we got another one at 2 p.m.
Which is, what's a twofer, bro?
It's a twofer.
It's like, you know, two.
The number two.
Fur.
Bro, you're too young for this.
Just relax.
Is that Pokemon terms?
Shotgun.
Just Google two girls, one.
Okay, no.
We don't have to get there.
Fill in the blank.
Yeah, yeah.
He's too young for that, too.
We don't need to.
He's got an editor in mind.
I already saw that ever since I was 13 years old.
Like, you need to level up your roasting game.
You really need to.
So, like, three or four years ago, then?
He got you!
All right, look.
Oh, God.
We started off with a roasting session.
You'd love to see it.
Welcome to the roasting shot.
No, but shotgun!
How we doing?
How we living?
Yo, GM, GM.
Doing great, doing great.
You see, like, people throwing shots early just because, you know, I'm the youngster up
in here on the stage.
And I apologize to all dads because as Sansa was playing the entrance song, I actually texted
in our group chat saying, Sansa got a bad music taste.
You can tell him a dad by the music he plays in the beginning of the show.
So, I apologize to all dads.
Sansa's music state, definitely not it.
But, yeah, glad to kick the show today.
We have an exciting Jungle Report, Matic Minute, Bozo Report.
We have all the reports.
So, yeah, everything you need to know about Web3, NFTs, meme coins, whatever the fuck,
we definitely going to cover that shit.
So, you better be throwing some comments down there, some retweets.
Bottom right corner, if you haven't yet, please show some support just so Sansa actually
allows the conversation to flow so he doesn't need to be on his monologues 24-7.
This is the Espresso Shop.
We go live every day, Monday through Friday, 11.30 a.m. Eastern all the way to 1 p.m.
So, that's it for me for now.
Back to you, Sansa.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
Yeah, everyone's like Sansa.
Your monologue got crazy.
Who the fuck was – oh, I was so confused.
Wait, that was Moishi.
Look, look, look, Moishi, I got to get through this weather report first because we've been having an issue.
We get too good discussion right away, and then we never get to the weather report.
So, it's a good problem.
Don't get me wrong.
It's a good problem.
But it's a problem that I need to address at the same time.
So, real quick – ah, fuck.
Of course, Moishi made me lose my train of thought.
But something happened last night pretty crazy.
Jugs, you know, you know.
So, I was up on those bases.
You know, people thought, oh, Sansa's just going to engagement farm.
He's going to sit up there.
He's not going to raise his hand.
It's a 2,000-person space.
He's not going to do anything.
What's he going to do?
He's not a smart dude.
What does he have to say?
Then I proceeded to just fucking own all y'all the motherfuckers.
But, yeah, other than that, it was pretty good.
It was pretty good.
It was funny.
It was funny.
A lot of, huh, a lot of, what, a lot of, huh.
I was not the founder.
And then five minutes later, yeah, I was the founder.
So, you know.
All you need to know is that I went up in the stage on a 2K people space, and I said, beans.
That's the most important thing you need to know about that bullshit.
Look, I'm going to be honest.
I actually kind of – I didn't feel bad.
I didn't feel bad.
It just really irritated me more so that just talking in circles for four hours.
How many circles do you do before you just realize you're walking down the same thing over and over again?
So, anyway, look, that being said, I didn't even check in with Big Neil, my other co-host, who is feeling very neglected right now.
He's like, what am I, the second kid?
You kind of are, buddy.
You kind of are.
I'm sorry.
But, Big Neil, what's going on?
How are we living?
How are we vibing?
Man, I am definitely okay with being the second kid.
I am learning from the first kid from the States.
Double roasted.
Double roasted.
Okay, with the coffee joke.
All right.
I love you, people.
Goddamn.
Yeah, awesome day.
Awesome morning so far.
I got lacrosse wrapping up at the end of the week.
I'm looking to get back in the spaces more and not be held down by my babysitting job on the side.
So, the moral of the story is I appreciate each and every one of you for coming out with us here today.
We're going to talk.
We're going to vibe.
We're going to connect with the new Polygon builders.
I sent an invite out to a few of them here this morning.
Who knows if these sons of bitches will get back to us?
They're busy.
They're busy as all hell.
But that's A-OK.
If you feel, oh, so inclined, and I see some of our OGs out here in the space.
I see Cynthia.
I see Shane out there.
Jess are giving me GMs in the morning.
I love all you people.
If you feel so inclined, please request up.
Have a little conversation about Polygon here today.
What it has done for you and what you think it will do in the future.
Got a really excited manic minute coming up, but I'm really down to get into it here today, Sanzo.
So, let's get it going.
Abso-fucking-lutely.
Guys, if you haven't already, retweet the spaces.
Show some love.
Show some support.
Especially more so, again, with these spaces.
And it helps us get a little bit noticed, whether it's by someone that wants to come in, that wants to end up getting outreach or interviewed.
We've been doing pretty well.
But this is exactly the time to not get content and to keep pushing it.
Because otherwise, what else got us here besides pushing it?
So, please, by all means, retweet the spaces.
Get it out there.
You won't see us getting content here.
Just a friendly reminder, we got this space.
And then we got the crossover spaces at 2 p.m. later.
Which I will pin later on, closer to the end of the spaces.
And we're just going to kind of jump right into it.
Today, there's a couple of eventful things.
Obviously, the jugs thing can be a topic of discussion.
I'd rather not have it dominate the conversation because it's already been talked about a lot.
But we can talk about it for like 10 minutes.
So, give or take a few minutes just to put that out there.
Did I miss anything?
Wait.
Oh, yeah.
I might have a sip of coffee.
Hey, shotgun.
Give me the water intro, please.
Oh, man.
Okay.
Try to hit me with that monologue, Ticker.
This is the Bozo Report by Sons of the Bozo Longer.
From the fucking jungle.
Oh, shit.
I'm not on mute.
Okay.
Well, this is awkward.
God, that is good.
I should probably...
Oh, right.
Sorry.
I got to turn on the voice.
I got to turn on the voice.
Hi, everyone.
If you have sensitive ears, please turn down the volume on your phones.
We are not liable for any hearing loss that happens.
And if you do get hearing loss after you've been warned, turn down the volume on your phone.
Quite frankly, you're a fucking idiot.
But we still love you.
We still appreciate you.
But turn down the volume on your phone.
Because something loud is coming.
We got the beautiful weather report today.
We got Bitcoin very clearly at $28,600.
It's been hovering around there.
Oh, sorry.
$300.
I didn't press the refresh page.
That's my bad.
$28,300.
It is down 5% in the last seven days.
Down just 1.2% in the last 24 hours.
That's okay.
Ethereum is still just holding out at $1,850.
We'd love to see it.
It's only down 0.5% in the last 24 hours.
So, again, really impressive to see it holding.
About seven days, down about 5%.
But, again, not a big deal.
When you zoom out, you look at a week-by-week basis.
It doesn't really change much.
But if you're looking on a day-by-day basis, well, you know, good luck with that.
We got Matic at $0.97.
I'll let Big Nill touch on this a little bit more.
I'm not going to, you know, I'm not going to do the shit talking here.
I've just been saying that it surprised me.
And I am curious what his thoughts are on this movement in general.
So, I'll save that for him to take care of.
And then we got Solana at $21.35, down about 5%, just under 6% in the last seven days,
under 4% just in the last 24 hours.
But it's still hovering between the $21 and $24.
Yes, percentage-wise, it sounds like a lot.
But that only matters if you have a lot.
If you have $100 in there, probably not going to budge much.
It's a couple of dollars.
You got $100,000 in there.
Completely different story.
Completely different story.
So, yeah, that being said, look up the term DCA.
Let me know what you think.
I'm curious.
Ain't no way, bro.
Not in Pokemon terms.
Nope, nope, nope.
We're not going there.
Someone the other day asked me to elaborate on my Pokemon expertise.
Well, that is a time for another spaces, my friends.
So, we're going to move on real quick to the Solana side of things here.
Mad Lads still holding that number one spot.
It just kind of feels like they just came in.
And people understood the team and what they're doing and why.
They just got right behind it.
We love to see it.
And then, obviously, the usual famous Fox Federation bumped up to the number four spot.
I believe it was around number six yesterday or the day before.
ABC is still just hanging out in the middle of the pack.
And Clay Nosaurs just hanging in there but still holding strong at that 60 to 64 Solana floor.
We love to see it.
It's just – I love to see consistent projects showing up in these top – you know, in the top 10, 12.
We got Oogie, which has been in and out a little bit but more often in.
And so, it's – I don't know.
I don't know how I feel about it completely because I don't know too much about it.
But, like, when a project is showing up, you would think objectively the data shows that people like that and whatnot.
But you never know until you actually look at the community sentiment.
So, I'll start looking into Oogie Post's community sentiment a little bit.
For some reason, OpenSea on my laptop is just bugging out.
So, we're going to use Blur today.
Ozuki is back at 15.6.
I think this is a good note for people who borrowed to have sold yesterday.
I talked a little bit about the short-term effect and getting caught up in things.
Don't get caught up.
Get your bag and get the fuck out.
Be happy with your profit.
Don't look back.
Don't worry about it.
But, yes, so – if that .04E dude that paid, you know, .04E for Ozuki to ball 15-point whatever made 1E just off of one day of borrowing.
And you can say he got really lucky.
You could say that people who get in first have the advantage of being ahead of the pack a little bit.
You could say that.
There's also a huge risk to it.
So, I think that's worth noting there.
But, you know, other than that, not really too much movement, you know, being still holding that 1.4 to 1.5 line pretty fucking consistently.
Other than that, we got used at 1.75E.
We'd love to see it.
A lot of people were wondering, you know, will it go down to 1.6, 1.5?
But, you know, you don't have to think the crazy bit.
I just think there's a lot of strong support.
And a lot of people are willing to buy, use, and wanting to be in that ecosystem because the community is strong, you know.
And D-Guys clearly has passed on that strong community vibe to their secondary collection.
And then, finally, just real quick to wrap it up, we got Sports Illustrated.
It's coming for NFT ticketing.
I'd love to see it.
I'd love to see it.
What's it built on?
I wonder what's going to –
What's it built on?
Polygon.
It's built on Polygon, big no.
Once again, I'm trying to save it for a dramatic minute, man.
I'm serving it up on a platter.
And then we got –
I probably should have saved that one for last.
Oops.
Then we got Goblin Season 2 Mint, prioritizing traders that have gotten wrecked.
If you're like, what the fuck is Goblin Town?
Welcome to the ecosystem, first of all, because you are clearly new.
And, you know, you're in for a fucking ride.
But they're going to prioritize wrecked traders, which is hilarious to me because I'm pretty sure my biggest loss is 2Eth on Goblin Town.
So I wonder if that is enough for me to get wrecked up.
Could you get a free mint on their Season 2 Mint if that's the case?
And then, finally, Doodles – it's funny because the name of the title is that Doodles Open Doodle Watch Applications.
But it's really, like, 2 Community Oversight Positions, which is just funny, the terms of it.
Because I was like, oh, they're going to make watches for people now?
And I'm like, wait a minute, what the fuck?
But no, it is accepting application for 2 Community Oversight Positions until May 5th.
So if that sounds like something you'd be interested in, go ahead and give them a shot.
Even if you don't have a doodle, shoot your shot, King or Green.
You got this.
You got this.
But, yeah.
Anyway, that's enough from me today.
Shotgun.
We'll go over to you with the Jungle Report if you got one.
Otherwise, let's take it over to Big Nill.
Yeah, real quick, real quick.
And then we got another report with macroeconomic crisis, Robert Downey Jr. as well.
And then we can finally get to the hands.
Go ahead.
This is the Jungle Report by Shotgun.
Today we have four preemins to keep a close eye on.
I mean, one of them I was going to mention was actually Goblin Town, so I just deleted it
because I ain't going to repeat the same shit that Senator just said.
But if you're a terrible trader, definitely go there and get your whitelist
because you already know bouquets, last year goblins took over the space,
so you don't want to miss out on that.
So, next we have Nike Hour Force 1.
OF1 will be the two digital boxes, Classic, Creamix, and New Wave sold for $0.19.82 a box.
So, basically, each box is going to cost about $20.
General access to the entire DotSwoosh community starts May 10th.
Bouquets, Nike's future looks bright with Artifact and their standalone Web3 efforts.
Next, we have Adidas Golden Ticket, access pass for Adidas Hype products.
Download the Adidas Confirmed app to enter for free under the Events tab.
The bouquets, this is a part of the Adidas new efforts with Alts, so definitely worth keeping an eye on.
Next, we have Red Light Distro.
This has been in the works since August 22 and created by three reputable Alphaletes.
The project hasn't released a lot of information yet, but already has giveaways for Watt, Vought, Toyo, and Doka.
The bouquets is that the collab giveaways are already top tier, so definitely going to be pinning it up above so you guys can check it out yourselves.
And last but not least, we have one of our previous guests out here in the espresso shot, which is Cold Sakai, an anime-style PFP collection with a 5.5k supply.
This was created by Echo Plus Studio.
Wait, is that the one that had quadruples revealed when they did their reveal or something like that?
Man, that's actually the one, I'm not sure if you remember, that their whole team is actually Japanese, and we were struggling for them to understand our terrible accents.
So I'm not sure if you remember that space, but that's them.
They actually have a lot in store, including an idle RPG, rewards marketplace, and a manga.
So the bouquet is that the branding is actually on point with trailers, game teasers, and etc.
So it's looking pretty neat and clean.
That is all for the Jungle Report.
I'll be pinning up the thread with all the projects above so you guys can check it out yourselves.
Big Neil, are you ready for the medic minute?
I was born ready, shotgun.
Modify it.
Damn, sons of bluewood.
This is the medic minute by Big Neil.
Round three, man.
This is like a full-ass news station at this point.
I hope everyone's excited to hear us talk for another 20 minutes.
But the moral of the story is we're providing value.
I think each and every one of these points is hugely important.
The most important point that we made here, and that was actually made yesterday,
is that Sansa said I've been at 78 of these spaces.
I've only known you all since January.
So my points per game average, absolutely off the roof, absolutely off the chain.
So I hope everyone gives me a bunch of love for that, just so you know.
The moral of this story is we've got some exciting things happening in the Matic studio this week.
Sansa already alluded to it, right?
Sports Illustrated creating their ticketing platform based on the Polygon ecosystem.
If you all have been to a Polygon shop before, you know that I've been screaming this at the top of my lungs through the last, I don't know, lifetime,
that this is an amazing application for our technology.
We talk about all the things that happen wrong in the ticketing agency, the scalping that occurs, the fees that occur, right?
People just killing everybody, interior, Ticketmaster literally being one of the worst companies,
and Live Nation being terrible organizations in general.
And so this builds a lot of peer-to-peer options for resale of tickets and the ability for verification for the future, right?
Making sure all your tickets are authentic, which is huge, right, as far as scalping goes and all those things.
So my wife is going to Taylor Swift this weekend.
I'm already roasting her if we're paying that much for a ticket, but we're going to enjoy it regardless.
I'm actually going down with a bunch of friends.
We'll be having a exciting time in Nashville there this weekend.
The second point that I'd like to make here today, Sotheby's actually announced yesterday as well that they are building an NFT marketplace.
And if anybody has any idea what I'm talking about right now, they know it's built on Polygon.
They have partnered with Mojito Studios, who is going to be building their interactive digital art marketplace here.
Sotheby's is a little bit behind the game here in the digital art world.
Their competitors have already jumped in pretty heavily into NFTs.
They did have a few sales, a few board dates back in the fall, but I think it was an amazing move for them to make sure that they are looking at gasless transactions for their million-dollar paintings,
because that's what we know.
We know that people that have millions of dollars don't want to spend money on gas.
But regardless, there's also been a few points of contention in the Polygon ecosystem.
And if any of my Poly chads are in the audience here this week, they will know that Frank, right, Frank had a little bit of a roast dash of some Polygon projects here, hosted by Smokey.
It was a space that was open for about an hour and a half, called up a number of random projects, and a number of them basically got smacked across the face, which is unfortunate for the egos.
It's fortunate for the ecosystem because we need refinement, right?
The reason why Polygon and NFTs weren't taking over, or weren't taking off, excuse me, before there was a big move with the youth, is because possibly the projects were a little bit mid.
So what can you do to increase your gain?
Make sure that you're branding yourself well.
Make sure that you are focusing on the engagement in that direction, providing that value, whether it be alpha, a community that you want people to join, whatever it may be, refine your product so that when the pushes in the youth direction continue to come, that you are prepared.
A lot of people took to the timeline and actually, you know, reached out to Frank and said, yo, where have you been?
You got all this money from Polygon.
What's the deal here?
Frank owned up to it and said, listen, month one was about successfully bridging and making sure that we find some liquidity.
Month two is about supporting Polygon ecosystem.
Here we are in month two.
He's already jumped into a number of Polygon spaces, and I will assume that it's going to continue.
I'm in a number of chats with him now, and I know that that community is looking to jump in a little bit deeper.
Now, the elephant in the room, and I'll say, I'll just wrap up with this.
Volume is down across the board.
Youths continue to perform well, but numbers of the other projects are not.
So what can you do to make sure that this wave continues?
Speak as loud as you can about the technology.
Onboard people effectively and talk about the innovation, right?
Sanza alluded before, the price-o-matic, it's stabilizing right around 97 cents, the dollar keeps fluctuating there.
I want everyone to recognize also that Polygon ran, that Matic ran from 33 cents all the way up to $1.27 here in the bear market because of the Web2 move that we're happening.
So a little bit of a cool-off period, a little bit of a pause, and I think eventually we will see a resurgence of the Matic token down the line here.
So that's all I have for the Matic Minute.
Appreciate you a ton, Sam.
Continue to build, continue to provide value.
I'm going to kick it over to the man Wajda himself for the macroeconomic report.
Or not.
Well, I was waiting for the intro, but it wasn't coming.
I'll play you an intro.
I was like, why do the Iron Man?
I don't know what music's happening right now.
Yeah, none of us do, I promise.
It's just shotgun.
Okay.
There's not much macro today other than the FOMC announcing their rate hike pretty soon, which I think most people expect this would be the last one.
If it's not, that's going to be very bearish if they announce they're going to do it more.
So if you're interested in that kind of thing, listen to the commentary afterwards.
Listen to the chairman speak and what he says and all that.
Some kind of not macro stuff, but it wasn't covered in the other stuff.
I don't know if people saw this, but LeBron, and I think Steph Curry also, were seen wearing the artifact shoes in yesterday's playoff game.
I think either pregame or postgame.
And that was the highest ticket sale of any second round game ever.
So it was a pretty big deal with all those big names in that.
NBA, for those of you that are in the jungle and don't know what American sports are, that's basketball.
And then, oh yeah, for all you horny MFers out there, so Pornhub got banned from Utah.
So if you're in Utah and you try to log into that website, you literally cannot because they block you through your IP address.
And it's interesting, and the only reason this ties into Web3 at all is because, one, if people don't know,
Pornhub is actually the reason why the internet became big, so don't fade it.
They do move markets, for sure.
But also, it's really actually a thing.
So they have a similar law in, I think it's like Louisiana.
But in Louisiana, you pre-register your IP address so you can actually get on to porn sites, like saying you're 18, right?
But in Utah, they don't have that, and they put it on the site itself to verify age,
which is impossible to do if you're being held legally accountable for it.
Same as we go on sites and say, oh, I'm not in the United States.
That doesn't work for this type of law.
So it's a thing where actually, if you think about it deeply, where NFTs could actually play into this
if you had your digital age on a blockchain, right?
And you could log into these websites through your own wallet that confirms legally that you are 18, 21,
whatever it has to be for that website.
It would get rid of a lot of this, like, you know, kind of like token gate certain websites.
And it goes deeper than that, because now there's a big push from governments to kind of limit kids
and their use of social media platforms.
I know there's some legislation going out where you'd have to be, you can't use like TikTok or different,
not sure if Twitter is part of it, if you're under the age of 13.
And then if you're over 13, under 18, you have to get like parental permission.
So a lot of these things could actually shift over into blockchain technology
where that would be a way to actually verify people's ages down the line.
So something to just keep an eye on that I thought of.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, wow, Jesus.
That might have been the most cohesive pass along that we've all done ever.
So a shout-out to my co-host, even if I was just down there in the speaker.
You know, a shout-out to him, too.
But real quick, real quick.
I know we already got a full stage.
That's my bad.
Let me – we'll rotate people out very, very soon.
Just give me a second.
You know, I wasn't expecting this.
Guys, retweet the spaces if you haven't already.
I know we just threw a bunch of information overload at you.
But that's because there's a lot to discuss.
Yes, so anytime you hear your favorite space of sales goes, there's nothing to talk about.
Bullshit!
Oh, sorry.
I don't know.
I had a little crack in my wrist there.
Okay.
Yeah, so most likely your favorite space of sales is bullshit.
And, yeah, that's just what happens.
But, no, look, a lot to talk about, a lot to go over.
But we do have two hands up.
I want to go to them, and then we'll circle back around if there's any topics you guys want to discuss.
Simi's trying to hold his retweet hostage, fucking saying, let me up, and I'll retweet the spaces.
No, no, no, no, no.
You got to retweet the spaces to be let up.
You got to retweet the spaces to be let up.
You can take it back later, for fuck's sake.
It's not that hard.
You can take it back later.
I don't care about it being on your TL later.
I care about it being on your TL now while the spaces is happening because we have one hour right now.
So, Shotgun, you threw your hand up just as I was about to throw it over to Moishi.
What's going on?
Oh, Sansa, but I don't want to retweet the space so my feed doesn't look messy.
Shut the fuck up.
Your profile looks like a fucking mess regardless.
So, do not worry, my friend.
One retweet is not going to make it better or worse.
That's the alpha.
Help the space.
We love you.
Back to you, Sansa.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, not back to me.
Back to Moishi.
Moishi, you being a gentleman, what's good, my man?
Yo, I'm doing my first Matic drop tonight, so, you know, bonus on Polygon.
Have you noticed iOS has an update on Twitter spaces?
I got emojis now, like the second rank of emojis that we're missing for some reason.
What do you mean?
Like, I have ten emojis now on Apple, and up until a few days ago, I only had like five.
I think that's a you problem.
You're being delayed, my friend.
We've always had ten.
Yeah, yeah, we all – I mean, Moishi, you had voice notes in the DMs.
I don't have voice notes.
I only have five emojis.
Moishi, they just don't want you to, man.
Yeah, no, that makes sense.
They are hating on my downfall.
Praying on it.
They're hating.
They're doing their thing, but we won't let them stop us.
We're out here.
Polygon drop.
Oh, you're doing a Polygon drop tonight?
Is that what you said?
Yeah.
Like, you're doing one or you're minting one?
I think I know what that's in relation to, Moishi.
Yeah.
You're going to have to wait and find out.
I'm doing a drop.
Sandra, you're actually eligible for a free one.
Oh, good.
Good to know.
Good to know.
Yeah.
I'll shoot you in the DM for more details there.
Yeah.
You're good.
Buckets, you're good also.
We got people.
We got people.
A lot of people on the stage will be getting free NFTs.
No, that's well.
Yeah.
Well, thank you, Moishi, for that, by the way.
And, you know, Moishi, you actually touched on something that I want to bring up very quickly.
More as a PSA than anything else.
We've had previous AMAs where we've given out whitelists and not everyone has claimed them, despite them being more likely good projects.
So what we're probably going to start doing is shipping our focus a little bit more to people who are paying attention, staying engaged and listening.
You don't even have to be just a speaker.
You can also be a listener and being engaged.
So we'll be paying a little bit more attention to that and just sort of collecting the data, which is ironically from Superspaces as well, and sort of prioritizing those people accordingly.
So, for example, I actually want to speak into that a little bit because we've got some really exciting stuff that's launching today at our space at 3 p.m.
Some on-chain.
Oh, yeah.
That's right.
We're launching our new on-chain protocol.
I'm not going to talk too much about it, but we're calling it TOE apps.
Give us the alpha before the alpha, baby.
It's a tokens of appreciation protocol.
So it's a way for hosts and creators to really reward those super fans like you're talking – excuse me, like you're talking about.
Sorry, I need more coffee this morning.
Yeah, yeah.
I would give it to you, but then my phone would melt, so I can't –
Yeah, I heard you over there sloping yours, dude.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I'm helping you out, Ken.
Helping you out.
But, yeah, and so essentially that probably will also be coming from super spaces.
But, you know, like right now, for example, I know that besides Shotgun, the next two biggest people that have been here with a total of 100 spaces, Shiv and Lack, like those people will more likely get prioritized if they don't have whitelists already for certain things.
And versus – like if I had 20, like let's say top five will be getting whitelists no matter what.
So like Khabib is in the top five right now.
It goes Shiv, Lack, Waj, Bibi, and then Ziana.
And then Benny.
And then Benny.
But, yeah.
When you say like top – are you talking primarily just how much time their account was in the space for?
Are you talking to me, Super Spaces?
Sorry, Moises.
I'm talking to you, Zanta.
Yeah.
I'm talking about like how many they have attended.
I haven't – I will probably at some point, you know, just because I know that these people do actively participate.
But if it's someone that I don't really like, you know, I'm not really familiar with versus someone I am with, then that's kind of a different story because you see the activity there.
How long they spend time in the space, whether they've spoken more or listened more, how much – how do they react?
There are some people who have been here for 10 spaces and have almost 1,000 reactions.
And there are people who have been here for 50 and have less than that.
So that's something that I'm going to take into consideration there too.
GG apparently has close to 4K reactions across seven of my spaces.
That's a wild number that I found.
GG, I don't know how much you're – if you go to like physical therapy for your thumb because that would hurt.
Like you're just spamming those reactions.
Yeah, but a big thing though, Zanta, like if you're looking at just how many people attend, there's quite a lot of accounts that manually will go open up their browser every day,
join a dozen spaces with new Chrome tabs, volume on low for each of them, and then they're just inside of a space.
And if you're talking about five people that you're rewarding, sure.
But at scale, you're not going to be able to like make sure you know each account, and you're going to need more metrics in order to judge whether that account interacted enough.
And we can speak about that privately, how that will work.
But that's something that we've been looking a lot into, and we did speak about it a little bit the other day.
So that's something that's super important to like make sure that they're not just farming time and spaces, right?
Because that's – there's a couple of accounts.
Like Shirley Lowe is probably eligible for every white list ever if those were the criteria.
And there's quite a lot of other Shirley Lowe's out there.
So you got to –
I mean I'll admit it's on a case-by-case basis at this moment, right, like this very moment.
But I'm more so just trying to put a Band-Aid on the – yeah, like Zimmy right now is trying to catch up.
So if I go straight to Zimmy, right, if I go straight to Zimmy, let's see where he's at.
75 spaces, 6.9K emojis.
Not bad.
Not bad.
But if I go to –
Why is Zimmy got to be 6.9K, bro?
I don't know, dude.
I don't want to talk about it.
I don't want to talk about it.
And then there's Daila who's been here for 10 and has thrown up 832 emojis.
More than most –
Yo, sister, do you know what I realized?
Nobody in the audience gives a fuck about how many reactions each person gave.
Really?
Oh, that's so weird.
Oh, shotgun got rocked.
That's crazy.
I don't give a fuck what you think.
I care about what I want to talk about.
But look, real quick, real quick.
Let's bring – I don't know why he hugged.
That's so weird.
Just from the –
That was so mutual.
Yeah, I mean, Sansa, the big thing to look at is like how much also reactions per space and reactions per speaker.
Like imagine if you could look at how many reactions and what type of reactions were being dropped every time shotgun spoke.
And if you see it just constantly like thumbs down, then you're like, yeah, that guy is never going to be on my space again.
Like you'd be able to see that.
And you could just look at like – that's a like reporting system I'm very interested in.
Like to be able to see a gauge like how effective a speaker is.
Yo, Moishi, like just to counter your argument, I feel like a lot of thumbs down is actually a positive because then it sparks the debate.
And then MEPRs actually want to go for head and stuff.
So, dude, the piggyback –
Shotgun really be the type of MEPR that just fucking loves to post like violent shots on the day.
You know what I'd like to know?
You know, it's draining.
It's draining.
Yeah, anyway.
Look, look.
We're here to talk about Polygon.
Simi –
Super quick.
I'm sorry because I just thought of something.
Fine, Simi.
I mean you're skipping Red Kev.
I know, I'm so sorry.
You're risking him butting you, by the way.
That's the risk I'm willing to take.
But it would be interesting to know like with the point of like the value of speakers, like how many reactions they get, like if they maintain the attendance, like does it dip?
So just to like know for like your spaces, like who's driving value to the conversation and like who's just being let up just to, you know, for the sake of speaking.
It sounds a little harsh but, I mean, it's good information because you're ultimately here for the listeners, you know?
Yeah, Simi, and to add on to that, I would say also how many new people joined – let's say if I join a space and I have my audience that listens to me when I host spaces.
When I joined a new space, how many people from my audience who weren't previously listening to the Polygon shot and now joined into the Polygon shot?
You could then see like how many people came from each speaker while they're speaking.
It would be really cool.
Question.
Are you guys trolling right now?
Because all of that information is very much available on superspaces.ai.
Yeah, this wasn't a paid shill.
You know, it's not –
Yeah, yeah, we're just going to –
That was definitely a shill.
Definitely a paid shill.
Well, yeah, yeah, last I checked –
Moise you're getting bags, bro.
Yeah, well, relax, shotgun, relax.
Let's take it easy there.
Let's not throw out those accusations here.
Look, look, look.
This is the – this is the fucking hilarious thing, right?
When you're on Twitter, you're growing your account.
You got people saying shit like what shotgun's saying right now, and you're like, okay, like, I know that's, you know, false, but, like, do I really have to go out of my way to address it?
Like, I'm clearly not.
Like, if I was getting bags like that, I would disclose it, you know, like, just stupid shit like that.
So, like, the other day someone had accused me of something.
I'm like, no.
What?
What the fuck are you on?
Like, it was just really weird shit.
But, anyway, what I want to say is that it's not all glory up here in the land of, you know, whatever you think, you know, growing your account is.
Trust me.
Waj knows.
Waj knows.
He's been up and down here and there.
Who gives a fuck?
All I have – if you're like, what do you mean?
All I have to say is, huh?
Anyway, look, let's go – let's throw it over to Red Kev.
Red Kev, what's good, my man?
You've been waiting like a gentleman while Zimmy has been just fucking abusing that utility.
You might get it taken away.
You might get that pass taken away.
What's up, Red Kev?
Oh, boy.
God, my fucking rotator cuff.
Jesus.
Fucking 44 minutes.
All right, Red Kev, let the record show that the FUD is to be directed towards Zimmy on this one.
He came off you at his own pleasing.
Okay, yeah, so the first 40 minutes, yeah, that was all Zimmy too.
Got it.
Yeah, hey, I just want to say hi, everybody.
Ouch.
Asanza, you know I had to give it to you.
I just want to wish everyone a really nice day.
I don't usually get to come to these.
I have today off of work.
It's actually my birthday, so I'm just super excited to not be at work and be in this goddamn Twitter space.
Wait, wait.
Is it really your birthday?
Yeah, check my profile.
Happy birthday!
Let's fucking go!
Happy birthday.
Not only do Kevin and I look alike, our birthdays are five days apart from each other.
That's freaking wild.
We do look alike.
And me and Big Mill are like 20 minutes away from each other, which is even more wild.
So I'm just happy that he's up here on the Polygon shot.
I didn't want to talk about my birthday, but just to say that you did skip over me.
But you brought it up like in the first sentence.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Well, I wanted to make Sansa feel bad for skipping over me for 45 minutes, honestly.
That was it.
Shit, it has been 45 minutes.
I was in that fucking head.
Yeah, and sorry, Waj.
I know I have really bad takes on energy drinks, too.
So apologies in advance for that.
But Sansa, yo, good job last night.
I don't know.
I know a lot of people are talking about it.
You got up in that one space.
We don't have to get into details.
But I thought you did a good job.
You could have went a little harder.
But I know you got a brand to protect and a reputation you want to uphold in space.
But I thought you did a really nice job up there, by the way.
But that was really it.
Just want to say hi to everybody.
I'm here.
I think I got to go to the DMV.
So I might not talk for a little bit.
But fuck yeah, let's go.
Polygon shot, baby.
Dude, I just want to say.
Yo, Red Kev.
Oh, I was just going to hit him with the Stevie Wonder.
Happy birthday, Red Kev.
I'm fairly certain that Kev and I are long-lost brothers.
Because not only do we look like each other.
Not only do we have birthdays that are five days apart.
Not only do we live 20 minutes away.
My license and my license plate are both expired.
Probably because our birthdays are at a similar time.
But I'm going to say that it's just all in the same realm of what the hell is going on here.
Yo, do that shit online.
Renew your license online.
I forgot to for six months and I got a ticket.
Don't forget that shit.
Oh my God.
Don's like, for fuck's sake.
Come on.
I know.
I know.
Look, look, Red Kev.
Look, I want to say, first of all, thank you.
I was trying my best last night to find the line between staying critical but also respectful.
Which I think more people should be doing.
Obviously, there is a place for people who don't give a fuck about that.
But I just, to me, it's easier to do that.
And, you know, I think it's harder to do it the other way around.
I think it's, you know, it's all about staying respectful.
In the discussion, that might be already hard for some people to have.
So, first of all, thank you for that.
Second of all, I hope you have, you know, a short wait at the DMV.
But, yeah, yeah.
I also, the funny thing is, talk about universe.
I also got my license renewal in the mail yesterday.
So, I'm going to take the lesson learned here from both you and Big Neil.
And do it through the mail.
And not have to show up to the fucking DMV.
But, yeah.
All right.
Look, we somehow have hands up.
Haven't even gotten to any Polygon topics.
So, let's throw it over to OG.
He's waving at me.
OG, you got something?
And then I'm going to throw it over to BB.
Because he's shocked that I think I just skipped over him.
So, that is my bad.
Willing to admit to my mistakes here.
Unlike your favorite influencer, OG, what's good?
Look, Sansa, what's popping?
Glad to be here.
I just got one simple thing to say to y'all.
It's pretty easy.
It's pretty digestible.
Here it goes.
Here it goes.
Huh?
Yo, OG, are you taking it?
What?
He's definitely pissing.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I'm taking it out right now.
You know, I got to get clean.
I got to get clean.
Huh?
You got to get clean.
Speaking of, well, I can't throw it over to that person yet.
I can't skip over to BB again.
But, Habibi, what's good, my man?
Wow.
Wow.
He was about to skip me again.
I told you.
I'm willing to admit my mistake, bro.
At least I'm being honest.
That's crazy.
Your favorite influencer realizes his mistake and then does it again.
That's crazy.
But, yeah, no.
What's up?
What's up?
Happy birthday, Red Kev.
Please don't go to the DMV on your birthday.
Like, go tomorrow or something.
Enjoy that birthday.
I had a serious question for Superspaces.
It was kind of just genuinely curious if there's going to be speaker scores as well,
just to kind of track the best speakers in this space, not necessarily just the host.
It was just kind of curious on your take there.
Yeah.
Hold on, Superspaces, before you answer that real quick.
I also want to kind of divert the topic back here.
You can answer that one question real quick.
But, Superspaces, can you come on Friday with an NFT guy?
We got an NFT guy this Friday.
But, like, can you also come?
Imagine putting somebody on the spot to be our guest like that.
Yeah.
Well, I don't give a fuck, bro.
That's not a problem at all.
Yeah.
Sanza, we'll be here Friday.
This is paperclip, by the way.
But we'll show up Friday.
What time?
Okay.
My bad.
My bad, paperclip.
Oh, you're good, bro.
Yeah.
But go ahead and answer the question about the speaker score.
Yeah.
Super quick, we were going to originally launch a host as well as a listener score and leaderboard
for those people.
And then Twitter did away with the closed captions.
And that was one of the things we were using to really gather some key metrics to make sure
that that data was all accurate.
And so, now that they have brought those back, that's something that we will incorporate here
in the coming months as well.
So, I don't have a timeline as to when that will happen because we do have a new product
launching today.
But that will definitely be something that we'll incorporate to the platform as well.
And then let's get back to some Polygon talk because I know Sanza has prepared a lot
of stuff for us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Totally.
Totally.
All me and not at all Big Nell.
Not at all Big Nell.
The guy who's a Polygon founder, project, or whatever.
Yeah.
Totally.
I'll be.
Totally.
I'll be.
Look.
Look.
There's one person that's been extremely more patient.
We had a couple of hands go down.
So, I apologize if you had something to say.
But if you do want to put your hand back up, we'll go to you.
But, Joe, you've been waiting for a fucking minute.
Let's go over to you, my man.
What's good?
Hey, Sanza and everyone.
The Polygon shot.
I love this show.
Thank you for just putting on this space and giving voices to people.
And, you know, first time speaking, but hopefully not last.
And, you know, we've covered so many topics today.
But one thing I did want to point out to you is, if you remember, you had your claim for
this space, the shot caller.
And I picked up quite a few of them.
I actually have, like, 14.
I think I'm the number one holder.
So, I just wanted to bring that to your attention and remind you.
I also have a Beans.
What is it?
Bean Shotgun.
Yep.
Shotgun Bean.
I think I'm the only one who minted that one.
So, and I'm also a Datorian's holder.
So, I'm very pro-polygon.
I'm very pro, you know, tech.
Good tech.
And, you know, thanks for putting on this space.
No, thank you.
Thank you for bringing that to my attention.
I'm going to be honest.
I was really determined to do something with a water bowl on every spaces.
And then NFT NYC smacked me across the face.
So, I am working to try to get them back into every spaces.
I'm just trying to, like, sit down for a good couple hours.
Make sure I have enough art to kind of go through them.
Because we do have some commissions we want to, you know, use.
But, yeah, dude, I love that you're holding 14 of them.
That actually, that means a lot.
And I appreciate that you enjoy collecting them.
So, for anyone that's not sure what that is, we'll talk a little bit more about that in the coming spaces.
I do want to start bringing them into every space.
Maybe starting.
I'll say this.
I'll try to start, like, this Friday or next Monday, depending on when I can get the time in with the team to talk about it.
But, Joe, thank you for that.
I really do appreciate it.
But big no.
Big no.
We got a couple Polygon people on stage.
We got a couple Polygon people on stage.
You know, I'll shoot Crypto Manimal.
Just let me know if you want to come up.
Send me a reaction.
You know, no pressure.
You know, up to you.
Up to you.
You know, I know you're the guy to come up with a literal Polygon shot to ring one of these days at probably one of these events.
That's going to happen eventually.
But, yeah.
Hold on a second.
Hold on a second.
Let's do.
Let's do.
There we go.
Yeah.
All right.
Look.
Big no.
What you got for us today?
You know, the Sports Illustrated with the NFT.
Because a lot of people will talk about this and be like, well, does that really mean anything?
You know, what is the case there?
Like, what's your thoughts there?
I mean, I'm pretty bullish on this.
But what do you think this means in general?
Just for all of us.
This is so freaking big for the space.
You talk about, like, so what I hope comes from it, right, is education, right?
I love when he's watched if there's the peace sign because I know it's the only thing that works and he's always just saying, hell yeah, right?
Right.
Awesome.
But the moral of the story is, like, the whole issue behind ticketing is that there's a few companies that have monopolized what's done out here.
You talk about what Live Nation does.
You talk about all the lawsuits they've been with, Ticketmaster, all these massive groups that just scrape our pockets, not only for transaction fees, but then a processing fee.
And then you talk about the scalping that happens.
All of these groups, all of these massive billion-dollar groups, right, are just rebuying and posting their own tickets for resale on these secondary groups.
Like, SeatGeek, all of those, right, they're known for this malicious stuff.
There's a reason why there was this, like I mentioned the Taylor Swift thing as a joke.
My wife is actually going to it.
She did not buy a ticket off secondary, so she didn't spend $6,000.
But, you know, buying a ticket for $100 and instantly having the market skyrocket, that doesn't just naturally happen, right?
That happens in the stock market with institutional investing and people that are playing unfairly.
And that's what these ticketing groups are doing.
And when you bring on blockchain technology, we can talk about, you know, it's peer-to-peer.
We can talk about, okay, fees and all that stuff are going to be efficient.
We can clear out that.
What it brings more than anything is transparency, which is massive, especially in the industry where there has been none, right?
Like, it's just going to be one of those things where a lot of people out there also, ticketing is still, like, a very, like, paper industry in many cities.
So, if people are bringing these technologies on, like, I know this entire last season, the Browns only accepted digital tickets here in Cleveland, right?
What does this mean?
People are going to get scammed less from a holistic perspective.
You're not going to see scalpers who are taking advantage of individuals because they literally, like, you know, copy-pasta a bunch of tickets and sold them to the people that were at the door.
It's going to change the way that we do a ton of things in this space.
And I hope, I really, really hope that it opens the eyes for a lot of people for what the potential of this technology is.
Maybe in a perfect world, it wakes up some of these, you know, huge companies and says, we can't do this anymore, right?
We can't, you know, screw over the people that are our biggest supporters, which is the people supporting artists, the people supporting sports teams.
Like, these are all people that go out to have an experience, and their experience is being tainted because of these insane fees and the amount of people that are reselling these tickets at a high rate.
So, that's why I'm so excited about this.
That's why it's always the first thing that comes to mind when I think of application for normies in the space for being on board without even knowing about it.
And that's what Polygon excels at, right?
The bridging of the gap between Web 2 and Web 3, the IRL application of our tech, it's going to be massive.
I will say, we do have another guest coming here in a second, Fatty Bags.
He's the owner of the Aplians Project.
He also is a Reddit NFT artist.
He's done a ton of great things for the space in the onboarding direction.
Of course, shotgun, he is using the kid's excuse.
No, I'm just kidding.
But he is running about five minutes late, dropping his kid off for practice or school or whatever kids do.
I'll figure it out in about six months.
And, yeah, so essentially it's going to go in that direction next.
Oh, Zimmy, you have your hand up.
I'm so sorry.
I'm monologuing like a motherfucker.
Oh, dude, please.
So I wanted to ask you a question on the polygon front because I've started taking a deeper dive into this.
And I wanted to get your opinion on something.
I think we can all agree that the future of NFTs is cross-chain, multi-chain, whatever chain.
But typically that's talked about between just like project to project.
Like, hey, like you're just buying here and like that's where it lives.
I had a question.
Do you see a world where maybe the main or like anchor NFT of the project is on ETH and then a lot of the other segments of the project itself can live on polygon?
And I'm asking you this actually as like a personal question and hopefully it's helpful to others.
No, I mean, this is something that we speak about a lot.
And like I've had conversations with a lot of projects and not to point any specific out, but they said it in the space themselves.
So I'll point them out.
DGentunes, right?
DGentunes, Prince, a bunch of their team members over there.
I was in the space with them.
It was really just like a conversational space where we were all talking about chain maxism versus multi-chain pushes.
And so we were going back and forth about a lot of these conversations.
And, you know, the founders of DGentunes are up there and they're saying, again, transparency.
They were having a conversation with Polygon that afternoon.
Now, this is maybe getting into the weeds a little bit.
This is diving deeper in.
What Polygon ZKEVMs mean for the chain is really what this direction is.
It's actually all about, right?
Polygon is like a hard fork of Ethereum.
Everyone knows that.
People call it a layer two.
It's not like a true layer two until these ZKEVMs come online because it's the ultimate efficiency and like scalability of the chain, right?
And so when we were on this conversation with DGentunes, we're going back and forth and meeting with Polygon.
The emphasis point that a lot of us made in there was make sure when you have the discussion with Polygon that you're talking about ZKEVMs more than Polygon itself, right?
And what you're saying here, the way that Sandeep describes it is maybe, you know, you live in New York, Zemi, you'll get this.
Maybe Ethereum is New York of NFTs, right?
It's large.
It has the most volume.
It sits there.
It can be a stability asset.
It can unlock things.
Not everybody can live in New York, right?
Some people have to live in Connecticut.
Some people have to live in New Jersey.
Some people have to, you know, operate in different general areas and commute in, interact with the most, the biggest market blockchain itself.
That was such a natural roast.
I'm freaking proud of myself for that.
But the moral of the story.
Yeah.
I mean, Jesus Christ.
These people living in Connecticut, like how do they even train, bro?
Yeah.
Jesus.
But the moral story is I think that that is truly the future of this space.
I think it really is.
The real direction you'll see is a large asset collection on Ethereum where they have sub-collections for accessibility purposes on any kind of EVM chain.
So anything that interacts with the Ethereum ecosystem effectively, a guy that we bring up here a lot, Brian, the crypto guy, he is already perfecting this technology of a vaulting system where you're actually able to move assets from chain to chain.
Once the Torian's mince out here this weekend, we have 600 collection pieces left, we'll be actually launching this vaulting system so that your NFT can live on either Ethereum or Polygon itself and in the future any EVM compatible chain.
There's another team that does this called Layer Zero Solutions.
There's a lot of teams that are working on this.
And I think that eventually the goal is everything is omnichained.
Everything is cross-chain compatible so that different chains can have most effective applications for those users.
And, again, we talk about mass adoption here.
Everyone's like, oh, 10K collections, it's really big, yadda yadda yadda.
That's not nearly big enough if people want their collections to go mainstream.
Everyone should realize that.
Your favorite project, your favorite influencer will need to launch a subsequent collection if they want their process to continue and they want their community to grow.
That's just facts.
And so there's a lot of things that are happening in that direction.
I think that helps a little bit, Jimmy.
Go ahead.
I know if people want to speak on that something, I'll go out too.
No, I just wanted to back you up on that last part.
Yeah, no, that was great.
I didn't understand anything that Big Neil said until you screamed facts at the top of your lungs.
So thanks for piecing that together.
You're welcome.
For sure.
So here's a thing because I was looking into doing some digital collectible drops in person.
And on Ethereum, it's literally not viable.
You cannot offer that type of blockchain experience to people.
I just don't see a world where you can blend the physical and digital with Ethereum.
But since it's the wealth management chain, having your anchor asset of your project on Ethereum and what the masses have at least fucking heard of,
and then all the other stuff that enhances the value of that Ethereum asset would be on layer twos or hard forks, like you're saying, like Polygon.
So just because of this alone, I started going down a fucking rabbit hole of Polygon.
So that's why I wanted to learn more about that.
And if there's a world where we can catch up on the UX UI experience for the masses, where they don't even realize this blockchain technology is happening on the back end, boom, that's mass adoption.
So that's the kind of shit that I'm just trying to figure out right now leading up to VCon in two and a half weeks.
No, Jimmy, I think that's massive.
It's two and a half weeks.
And sorry, Sean, go ahead.
No, I was just shocked that it's in two and a half weeks, and I'm only down like a couple of pounds.
I don't know if it's two and a half weeks.
Especially if I'm going to be on camera next to that fucking guy.
You know, he's skinny as hell.
He's going to make me look like a, hey, hey, hey, fat Albert.
It's actually, I lied to you, it's not two and a half weeks.
It's actually two weeks, exactly.
So you can scratch that half.
Yeah, just to let you know.
Okay, well, it looks like we're doing, it looks like we're doing two days for the next two weeks.
Anyway.
I will say, Jimmy, one comment I want to make that on top of that.
What I think you'll see a little bit, too, the new idea that's here, right?
And I think Fatty Baggs just joined us, and I'm glad that he caught the end of that speech.
Because I think it's a good, important thing.
He's somebody that's focused on onboarding in the Reddit direction.
Because what Reddit did, right, was the custodial wallet thing.
But what Reddit didn't do is the education behind that.
That's why capturing those people was a little bit of a miss from a lot of directions.
Because, yes, they had all these wallets, but the technology and the education behind it, they didn't catch up with each other, right?
And that's what, Polygon owns that.
Like, Sandeep's been on Spaces, and he's been like, dude, we screwed that up.
Like, we need to do better in the future with the education portion.
Which is huge, right?
Like, own that up.
One thing you'll see, too, Zimmy, and a lot of projects you're already looking into this, is the fractionalized ownership of NFTs.
And that's another application that Polygon really excels in, because you have multiple interactions, and you can do that very well.
There's a project already, the Polygon Punk.
Sam has been up here previously.
They just did a fractionalized drop with a group called Nibble, and they're doing a lot of things in that direction that are going to help push, really, that entire idea forward, right?
And meaning you can own a piece of NFT, feel some of those benefits, and then, essentially, sell shares of it, similar to, like, how Masterworks.
Now, the Masterworks is a policy scheme.
Don't go invest in Masterworks.
But it's similar to the IRL art fractionalization and ownership in the future here.
So, there's a lot of cool things on that.
With that, we've got a bunch of great hands up.
I want to kick it over to Manimal.
Oh, Shotgun in his hand.
Shotgun, then Manimal, and then Waj as well.
But I know that Manimal is going to speak on this specifically.
So, Waj, you'll go right after that.
Go ahead, Shot.
Man, I was actually just about to ask you, big nil, because, you know, I feel like it's kind of controversial.
Not really controversial, but just so I get to the point real, real quick, do you think that the entire concept behind, like, fractionalized NFTs and how it works in regards to, like, the benefits that you get in exchange for having that NFT, do you think it's truly viable, like, for a larger scale?
Or do you think it's more of one of these situations where the concept looks great, but the execution, it gets a little messy?
So, I was really just trying to get to your brain a little bit, because I know you've got great takes about these things.
It's not easy, man.
And I will say that it's hard to predict all these things out here, right?
I feel like every time I dig, the entire space dies.
I've paid a generational wealth more than anybody else out here.
But I think it's very…
Oh, I got you.
You and me are on the same page.
We're both fading everything that's moving out here.
But the moral story is, I think that it just brings up a very interesting opportunity for people that don't want to dive in as deep as we do, right?
I think that in general, when you talk about a custodial wallet, when you talk about fractionalization, it might kind of be that little option, that group, that normies, I hate to use that term, but people that are not involved in the space, are looking to get involved with, because it might just open up that door effectively for them to understand the why behind digital art.
The why behind collectibles.
And maybe there's a few small benefits that come with it, right?
Things like VIP lounges, things like, you know, little things that IRL can affect them in a much more direct way, rather than us that look at this as an investment, as a community thing.
Because, you know, most people don't understand that avenue of NFTs yet.
So, I think it's a trend, right?
I think there's all trends that happen here.
It hasn't taken off yet, so it's still early on it.
And maybe there's some productivity in the future that it can benefit real people out here in the real world.
With that being said, we have some awesome other hands up.
I want to go to Manimal, then Lodge, and then I want to introduce our first guest, or our guest here today, Fatty Bags, who does some awesome stuff in his face.
And we got some other hands as well.
So, Manimal, take it away.
Thanks, Big Nill.
What's everybody up?
Sansa, it's good to see you.
What's up, King?
How are we doing?
Doing well, doing well, doing great.
Thank you guys for having me up.
But, yeah, just speaking on that, on the multi-chain thing that Zimmy was talking about as well, or the Omni-chain, or however we want to talk about it.
But, yeah, there are people out here, like, I mean, with Big Nill and Bri and being able to go back and forth between Ethereum and Polygon with your NFTs.
And then I also see a lot of utility coming, depending, like, say you have a big ETH project and you're going to drop a coin, or you're doing some type of crypto coin that's included with it, and you want to do staking of that coin, or you want to do DeFi of that coin, or you want to use that coin for certain things within the project.
And that right there, I think, is where Polygon comes into play.
Microtransactions have always been great.
I mean, DeFi summer on Ethereum before we even had Polygon, nobody could participate unless you had fatbacks, you know, unless you had a lot of liquidity.
You couldn't afford the gas.
If you were farming something, your gas was costing more than you were making, you know, if you didn't have a large amount of capital to begin with.
And so that's where I saw, like, a big benefit in Polygon through DeFi before I even got involved in the NFTs.
And so what I see happening, too, is, like, the bigger projects having those, having, you know, like you said, that anchor on NFTs basically being through the ETH and then using a chain, whether it be Polygon or one of the other layer twos or something of that nature to put your coin on or to put, you know, like you said,
maybe even a micro transaction or fractionalized NFTs on there as well, doing things of that nature.
And that's where I see it moving is way more omni-chain.
There's a project called Pikamoon, Pikamoon Coin, and they're doing that.
They're doing MultiverseX and ETH first, and then they're going to be branching out into multiple blockchains where you'll be able to take your 3D avatar and go into the MultiverseX ecosystem and then go back into ETH and then go back and then go into Polygon or go into, you know, wherever else they decide to expand their chains to.
And you'll be able to freely move in between these different Multiverses, you know, through their ecosystem with an NFT that maybe you bought on MultiverseX or maybe you bought it on ETH, but then you can go into the Polygon community, you know, just by bridging over that NFT and then going and running around in their Multiverse with that, you know.
And, like, we've partnered with them, with the Trogonite side, with Trog Evolution, and that's what, like, you're going to be able to full 3D bodied avatar that you can run around, like I said, through multiple different metaverses with that same PFP slash 3D avatar.
So I see that moving, I see it moving in that direction, and I see more and more people becoming open and realizing that, you know, you're going to need that to be able to continue to grow and succeed with your project.
You're going to need to have a microtransaction style layered to some sort in your project.
You're going to have to have that if you want to continue to grow and continue to move forward, like Big Nill said, if we want mass adoption, or like you said, too, if, you know, when people are using the blockchain and not even know they're using the blockchain.
And so that's where I see it moving forward, most definitely.
See, this is why I associate myself with Manimal, because he's got good intelligence, he's got great words to speak on the whole damn thing.
I mean, Zimmy's got more to say, of course.
Yeah, well, that's great.
What I really wanted to say was, I also associate myself with Manimal, because I was promised a Polygon drink at whatever event that we decide to throw.
So, really looking forward to that, especially more so than probably anything that Zimmy has to say.
But, I'm just kidding.
I can't be that mean.
Mom was upset about how mean I was the other day.
So, I'll throw it over to my dumb little brother.
Zimmy, what do you got?
Yep, that's why I pissed in your top drawer.
I was going to ask one thing.
Fuck, that's you.
I know, that was me.
Wainted on the dog.
I was going to say, just to play devil's advocate, I have very little stake in Solana, but I just want to hear, like, there's probably, like, obviously soul maxes out there that go, why don't you just use Solana?
So, I was just wondering if there was some sort of, like, response to that, because you know way more about Polygon.
You want my pilot response or polite response?
I want to vote for the culture.
The space isn't ready for layer two, so we should just utilize ETH because it's a safer investment strategy.
Sorry, I'm not really sure what else to say on it.
It's really what it is right now, just because you have people who want to back the largest blockchain possible, but they don't feel comfortable wasting gas or being in something that's not friendly to the environment.
That's why people are very comfortable, and Web2 companies are very comfortable investing in Polygon, because at least they're, like, coupling themselves onto Ethereum, but they don't have to leverage all the negativity that comes with the side effects of Ethereum.
So, that's just my basic answer for it.
The reason we don't use Solana is because they inflate their numbers, and they're fake.
That's my take on Solana.
Okay, controversial, controversial.
I like it, I like it.
All right, well, we might be changing the title to the violence shot.
It's a little early for it, but, you know, I'm here for it.
I'm here for it.
The Polygon versus Solana shot.
One day, we will have a match, and it will be headgear included.
We'll make sure it's very safe, but in general, we got a lot of people that are saying that I need to go to Wajda.
I'm sorry, Zanzo.
We need to go to Wajda so we can introduce that.
Well, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Wajda, Wajda, relax, relax.
He knows what we're dealing with here, but you know what would be a really good idea?
And I know Wajda will think this, too.
Look at Solana and Polygon spaces, like mega spaces almost.
Might have to give that a try.
We might also call that the violence shot.
That way we can convert them to Polygon.
We should definitely do that.
That way we can convert them and show them that they need to come over to Polygon.
I 100% agree, Zanzo.
We might have to change the name of the spaces to the Soligon shot.
Could be something there.
Will there be a new altcoin?
I don't know.
Stay tuned.
Wajda, what's good, my man?
I'm going to spin it up right now.
The Soligon shot was a terrible idea.
The other thing, the fractionization, Big Nile, I don't know if you've heard, but you
don't need to do that anymore.
You can just finance NFTs at 2,000% APR and get the same thing as fractionization.
But actually, a legit question.
So Polygon, with everything they're doing, all the big polls they're getting, I guess,
if you will, and they have all these Web2 companies using it for where I personally see
the future of the NFT and blockchain is going, all these things seem to be happening on Polygon
where everyone's kind of been mentioning it, where the regular user wouldn't know necessarily
that it's even new technology.
They're just going to think of it as, you know, I bought a ticket and who gives a shit.
It's just such a cool concept.
They're doing all that.
Just in the Polygon experts' opinions, why do you guys think that Polygon, and this gets
into like price action of the coin, why does it continue to sit around a dollar when it
seems to be being used so much in the real world, like more than any other cryptocurrency,
right?
Like the rest of it is like fake internet money where you literally can't do anything
with it except for like trade JPEGs and convert it to something else to buy stuff.
But Polygon actually has like real use cases and it's being used now by like major companies
in a major way that actually has like, we always talk about mass adoption, but this
is what it is.
Like it's not going to be trading JPEGs for $10,000 in mass adoption.
It's going to be, you know, I go to Starbucks and I'd get a coffee and they'd keep track
of it.
Or, you know, I buy tickets on the blockchain.
I can tell that they're real tickets, right?
Like those are all real things that people are going to use it for.
So is there any like inner speak with the Polygon people?
Why?
How is that being recognized more?
I guess is the question.
So, um, my, so Siddharth up here, he's going to blow this one away.
I was just about to say big, no, I was just about to say, um, let, yeah, I'll, I'll do
the quick intro here.
Uh, Siddharth is up here.
Uh, we, we were supposed to meet in NFT NYC a couple of times.
Um, I, I fumbled the bag.
I couldn't get to him.
And it was like two, two people trying to run, run across the room at each other and
security guards are in the middle.
It's a packed room.
Everyone's in the middle trying to, trying to stop us from getting to each other.
Uh, but you know what?
Uh, alas, we were only destined to meet on spaces.
Uh, Siddharth, how are we doing, my man?
How are you living?
How are you vibing?
Hey, it was unfortunate we couldn't meet, but yeah, like hopefully next time.
And thanks for bringing me up.
Actually, I was just wrapping up a meeting and I then saw this space for the live.
I was like, let me jump in.
And I think the previous topic was also interesting.
I would want to quickly comment on that.
I think it was around using soul on Polygon to buy NFTs.
Uh, if, if I get it right.
Uh, and I think it's, it's not that we haven't thought about it.
Actually, uh, but it's just tricky to implement to bridge soul and then to have some marketplace
which supports it.
Uh, but yeah, it's, it's something which we have thought about.
So may happen.
You never know.
Uh, and, and, and probably I'll come to, to the question around price action.
Uh, so it's really tricky.
It's, it's actually really, really tricky.
Uh, if you look at, uh, crypto price action, we know how, how markets are pumped, right?
I mean, I mean, we know, uh, how different market makers operate in the space and how
different L1s and L2s prices move.
Uh, it's just like, why all the things that the team is doing, like on, on the podcast.
Hello.
We lost you for 10 seconds, but you're back.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Sid Hart, you're back.
I, I, I got really confused for a second.
Yeah.
You're good, brother.
Keep up.
You're good.
Yeah.
Thanks.
Yeah.
So I think why, you know, there's so much development happening, uh, but we don't see
price action is like purely because the markets are not mature enough.
Like, fuck, I think my space is bugging me.
That's okay.
I can, I can, that's what you're saying.
Cause I know what he was going to go into.
Um, more of the story is because things did run so hot for a little bit too, because the
focus was on the web to build, right?
You saw a lot of accumulation by more, like my massive company, right?
Web two direction was the way that it was building for a long time.
And all those things were a high play, but also allowed for a lot of accumulation by
these larger entities, right?
Last week, you just saw that Google announced things that are coming from the cloud direction
onto Polygon.
Um, and so what happens when you have many people accumulating at that level in those
large quantities, they're going to hold for five, 10, 20, 30 years.
I think in general, it's just providing a little bit of a stagnation, right?
Because it is, it ran hot for a long time.
The markets are immature where they are currently.
And I think it just needs a little bit more time to cool down prior to the push that we're
seeing.
And right now, the push you see is with shit coins, right?
That's not beneficial for anybody out here besides the people that are longing those things
on a random, like roll of dice.
Um, that's not going to produce the market value that we want.
You see the entire market coming down like 8% in the last week and a half.
Congratulations for those making their bags, but it's not advancing the space by Chad
or Juggs or whatever the hell else you people are buying out here.
So be more reliable.
God damn it.
Uh, Siddharth, I'm not sure if you're back with us yet.
You can finish what you were saying, but I, I hated to take that from you.
No, I think, yeah, you, you, I think this should be better now.
I changed network and yeah, I think you probably summarized it really well.
Uh, see, it just, you know, whatever is happening is, is, uh, not on the native side, right?
It was like, again, like, and it is a, it is an important aspect, right?
Because to pump, like price pump actions, like they happen more on the native side.
Uh, and which is just like ecosystem is like, you see, you see people still fading Polygon
because people are not cognizant.
People don't understand all these moves that are happening, right?
They don't understand how these things would shape up the space in five to 10 years.
People want instant gratification.
And they're like, you know, Oh, I'm not getting that from Polygon.
So, so on and so forth.
But yeah, I think one thing which I should call out and I'm, I'm, I'm not supposed to
talk about tokens.
So yeah, probably please don't quote me anyway.
Uh, is that I think last year, I think when everything was going down, uh, Polygon went
down the least.
Like I, like I had exposure to almost all everyone.
And I like, that was something which, which also materialized because of everything that we
were trying to, you know, get through, uh, that we had very strong resistance.
Uh, and I think while folks went down 80, 90%, Matt, it was only down 60%, I think.
So yes, at times it becomes close to a dollar stable coin, but, but yeah, there would definitely
be, uh, like reflection in the price also as market matures and people are more cognizant
So basically right now crypto prices are not a reflection of what the team is building behind
it, right?
Like you have protocols or tokens and zero product or zero DAVs built on top of them.
And they have like a few millions or billions of elevations.
So it's just how the market is at my right now.
And I think it should change over the years that this industry matures.
Yeah.
So it's twofold, right?
It's, it's that things didn't dip as hard and things ran that much hotter in the in-between.
So it's all about everything that's being built here as a collective.
And again, the tech, because it's so much further ahead of a lot of other groups, it needs
time to catch up.
The market needs time to mature and it's somebody that took the time out of his day
to actually meet up with Siddharth, uh, and be friends.
I'm like, uh, my cohost here.
Um, I just, he's not laughing.
He's supposed to laugh at that point.
Um, I just want to say that obviously it was, it was great to spend time and just connect
on a higher level.
Um, and I appreciate you always jumping up and providing this type of value because this
is really the way that we push this space forward is these educational conversations
that are, uh, more than just like, Oh, like buy this coin, do this thing.
Like the, it's about the tech.
It's about the future of this space.
And that's what he's talked about.
That's why I continue to host these.
And I just appreciate everything that's said in here.
So with all that, I need to take a second.
I need to introduce Scotty Bags.
He's the most important person.
Please.
Yeah.
My man, my man has been just hanging out there for a second.
You know, he's got kids.
I got kids.
We respect the kid.
You're, you're, you're about to, you're about to have one in a few months.
Big no.
You said so.
You only have one kid.
Hey, just shut the fuck up.
Oh my God.
Oh, I got kids as well.
Yeah.
Bro.
Bro.
Just, just for that.
We're just going to put you in timeout.
All right.
Fatty Bags.
What's good, my man?
How we doing?
How we living?
I'm doing good, man.
I appreciate you guys having me up here.
Yeah.
Apologize.
I was a bit late, but as you know, with the kiddos, it's unpredictable as hell.
I'm happy to be up here chatting with you guys.
I'm easy.
So no stress.
You know, I like chilling and chopping it up and laughing with everybody.
It's good, man.
It's good.
Life's good.
Excited for, for everything that's going on.
Excited for the movement on Polygon.
Very interested to see what this means for the future of Polygon and for Web3.
Very bullish on the amount of new wallets and new people that are joining the space.
We saw that with Reddit heavily.
But I definitely want to keep echoing the fact that I don't think personally that Web3 slash crypto slash DeFi, if you will, is ready for that huge influx from a UI UX experience.
So what you really need is we need to figure out how to make this shit seamless for the rest of the world.
Although I'm glad to see that we are still pushing and we see the light at the end of the tunnel.
But happy to be up here, guys.
Thank you for having me.
Yeah, Fatty, I just want to give you, I just want to give a quick overview of what you've done in the space because it's really remarkable, right?
You've integrated yourself and you're an experienced person in the DeFi direction.
You're a Reddit artist, so you were very influential in the push that happened on that side, right?
So that was awesome.
And now you're a project founder that bridged over to Polygon.
So multiple facets, multiple things that you provide to the space.
So much knowledge.
And that's what I really want to tap into during any of these conversations is how do we continue to provide that value?
Now, just the quickest question I want to ask you, right?
In your day-to-day, you know, you saw everything that happened with Reddit.
And I kind of alluded to this earlier, that Polygon fumbled on the education portion of that.
That was a very open conversation that Sandeep has had multiple times.
What are you doing to make sure that the continuation of the space, and you said we're not ready, right?
That's completely fine.
I totally agree with you there.
What are you doing on your process to make sure that the ball keeps advancing and that we keep kind of rolling this snowball uphill?
Yeah, man, that's a great question and something that we discuss every day at Wraithworks, which is our umbrella company that we've created for this exact reason.
One of the first things that I did with Reddit was I noticed that a lot of these artists that are joining Web3 in this ecosystem, they don't really know where to go past the Reddit vault, past their initial collection with Reddit.
And that was a major loss because those artists themselves have huge following, sometimes in the hundreds of thousands or millions of people, and have no idea.
That audience and that artists have no idea how to interact with Web3 at all.
So what we saw was a need there to educate the artists and then also bring those artists' communities over the border, if you will, into Web3.
So what we did is we sent out a form and we got about 32 responses from a lot of the artists there at Reddit.
And that form asked them a bunch of questions.
The questions were, hey, you know, ranging from how well do you understand Web3 technology to, you know, like, do you need help with the psychological pressures of becoming a founder?
Do you even want to be a founder?
So we gauged all these questions.
And then what we did is we custom curated a basically a workshop of a bunch of different classes where we're sitting down with the artists, we're educating them and working on blockchain literacy.
So what we saw is as a first step, we're using art as a medium for onboarding, right?
Because they have the art, they are the artists, they might not know everything about Web3, but we can at least get them up to speed and proficient enough to where they don't get cooked.
But on top of that, they can also bring their communities over.
So that's the easy path of least resistance is we can bring in thousands upon thousands of their fans into this ecosystem.
And then from there, because these artists have been educated properly, they can educate their communities like I've done with Aplians and many of their of the community members have done with their friends.
And those people can now join the Web3 ecosystem and start to spread out.
And that means they can go all over Polygon, they can go all over Mainnet, they can jump around to any chain they want.
And we have those tools in place through different documentation, through stuff we built up on Aplians, through these classes that we're creating.
Excuse me.
So with all of that, the key is, is using the path of least resistance, using art as a medium for onboarding of the masses right now.
This is the easy way for me.
And then from there, making sure we educate to retain.
And if we retain these people in this ecosystem, then it's good for every chain, it's good for every project potentially.
But we just got to make sure we educate them.
Because the second you get cooked is the second that you call this shit all upon Zoo and you want out.
So that's definitely my two cents on that.
I just want to respond quick, Fatty, and then I'm going to let Shotgun take a response as well, too.
I think that a lot of what you said is like so on perfect brand with the way that we do things here on Polygon.
And I think creative up here, Manimal up here, they can agree when the bear market hit, yes, maybe the coin didn't drop as hard.
But what I can tell you got cooked more than anybody is our creatives out here, right?
Our designers, the people that were building out the ecosystem, they lacked, right?
Because there was no liquidity on the side of what we were doing in these spaces.
There was no art liquidity.
There was no ability because everyone was focused on what are the futures of DeFi via Polygon?
What are the futures of the tech via Polygon, right?
And so because those people got cooked that much harder, we need to double, triple, and quadruple down on the why behind what we do out here because that is how we lose innovation in our space.
If we lose the creatives, if we lose those people that aren't going to make innovation, right, we're going to not advance as fast as we want to.
Like Polygon has advanced so much quicker than anybody could have imagined, right?
Like DKUDMs are like three or four years ahead of schedule, but we're going to slow ourselves down if we don't make sure those people are protected.
And that's exactly what you're talking about, man.
And so that's why I want to give a little bit of a reflection on it.
That's why I hope everyone just dives into what Fatty Bags is doing and make sure that you support all things across the board, whether it's Reddit avatars, whether it's the education behind it, whether it's his project over at Aplian.
He's doing amazing things for our space, and he's one of those people that I always look towards and I always reach out to when I need a little bit more info for what's going on out here because I just have a very good trust in the direction that he's pushing us.
So Shotgun, take it.
Big Nill, real quick, I just wanted to highlight the importance of something that I kind of catch from what Fatty Bags just said.
And it is the importance of actually bringing in collectors and people that, you know, are consumers to what these people are creating because I feel like most of us, we are a little bit biased because at least I speak for myself when I got into this space, you know, in the last bull run, which was like, let's say, June, July of 2021.
And like most of these people that got into kind of around that time, they have an investor perspective, but they don't really realize that for this thing here to work, like for this space to work, we need people that collect, we need people that utilize those products for what they are and not necessarily for a profit.
Like, of course, there will always be investors in the flippy culture, we'll stay here forever, but we need more collectors, we need more people that buy art for the art, that play games for the games.
So I just wanted to highlight this real quick.
And just an example of what I'm talking about, you look at Azuki, for example, of course, there are a lot of whales, but a lot of people within that ecosystem, they are collecting traits, they are, they want to join the spirit now, they want to like buy,
specific traits because they want to buy specific traits because they love the art and they love the collection.
So I just feel like grabbing attention from these people.
You look at the sneaker culture, Nike is already doing drops that only Web3 natives, Web3 people, people that hold their NFTs are going to be able to attain.
And that's huge, in my opinion, because sneakerheads are freaking crazy.
They will do whatever to get the drop that they want.
So I feel like more initiatives like this, they're extremely bullish.
That's my two cents.
No, I love it, Shotgun.
I think that's an important point of context, too.
So many of us, like, we all started as collectors.
If you're on Polygon for no G sense, you probably have never, you didn't flip an NFT for a long time.
I will say that unless you knew what you were doing out here, right?
But in general, that's a massive push that needs to happen.
It's the value behind the product itself to ensure that there's a longevity.
And I think that's kind of what you're speaking on is we need more value propositions out here.
We need more consistency of those value propositions on top of that because a lot of these things are flashes in the pan.
Yeah, well, I provide value.
Never could be me.
No, but the moral story is we have a bunch of new hands up here.
I want to kick it around.
If anybody has, obviously, would love to direct a little bit more of the conversation towards Fatty.
Make sure he gets a little bit of love here in this last 30 minutes.
We've been doing some great things.
And what you can do for all of us up here in this space is making sure that you retweet, you like, you send this out to a few DM groups.
You have some conversations in the background to make sure that we continue to provide this consistent value because these are the conversations we need in this space.
It's not about a shit coin.
It's not about any BS that's happening.
It's not influencer drama.
It's providing education for the long-term gains of what we can actually get out here.
Wag me means education.
That's the main focus here.
So I want to kick it over to Miho.
Then I'm going to go over to Al.
And then I need to hear from a woman up here, Shantastic, who's an amazing human.
It's been a lot of dude energy.
I need to reset that a little bit.
So, Miho, take it away.
Hey, good morning, man.
I appreciate you guys having me over here.
Damn, this man's hustling.
Sorry, Miho, good.
Hustling hard.
Oh, dude.
Hey, he's on point.
That's the best co-host to have.
I mean, I've seen this guy in Solana spaces, Polygon spaces, Ethereum.
So he's killing it.
Yeah, dude, to focus on Fatty Bags, he's definitely, like, one of my favorite artists coming up in this space.
And he has so many eyes and attention just from, like, his Reddit collection.
I mean, he's not the only one.
To me, I see him and Tyler Faust as, like, the leaders right now pushing the space.
So you're going to look at, like, his collections.
And I think Apelian's Larvae, I don't know what the floor price is, maybe $20, maybe $30, it's ridiculously inexpensive.
And I think a lot of people here are going to be kicking themselves in the ass if they don't have at least one or two just locked in the vault.
I'm seeing it live.
Like, I mean, I keep up with him.
I also see him in spaces.
He's connecting a lot of projects.
He's connecting a lot of artists.
And he's really bringing things together.
So where I see Polygon right now, like, there's so much momentum from the artists, from the projects, and the collaborators, and also the people that work at Polygon Labs, right?
Having Sid over here, like, dude, that guy is amazing.
He's definitely somebody that you want to have follow.
If you have any questions, shoot it at him, right?
So I'm seeing things right now, and I don't know if you guys can only keep up with, like, investment news and stuff.
Last year around this time, it was, like, maybe April end of February, Polygon had a huge, huge, huge, huge VC fundraise.
It was led by Sequoia Funds, and they raised close to half a billion dollars.
I think it was, like, $450 million, $460 something millions.
So that is what they have to play with, right?
We hyper-focus so much on the PFPs and what goes on in our little silos, when in reality, like, the amount of brands that are being brought in, the amount of actual, like, projects and big corporations that are looking to build in Polygon, it's absolutely ridiculous.
I had no idea this whole MasterCard thing was coming up.
I mean, eventually, it was going to happen, but the fact that it happened with Polygon, and it kind of happened for us out of nowhere, and especially because they're working with MasterCard, I mean, that's, it's big, but I'm not surprised.
I'm like, damn, okay, I definitely expect that.
Like, there's so much, so many, so many things, right?
It's kind of crazy, like, to think that they have half a billion dollars available to them, that they have Sandeep disactive, that they have Ryan Watts working on the gaming side.
I also don't want to speculate in terms of, like, the price of Matic, because it's not like it's doubled or tripled, but it's also maintained, and it maintains its floor price pretty good.
It's a pretty balanced coin, so it's a lot of really cool things going on.
You know, if you guys have any questions when it comes to, like, Polygon projects, shoot them at me.
I'm sure FattyBacks would also be more than glad to, you know, have you guys send them a DM or whatever that might be.
This is probably the best time that we have right now when it comes to Matic, and not that I'm not, you know, bullish on Ethereum, not that I'm not bullish on Solana, but look at the projects.
Look at what they're launching for in terms of mid-price, and then look at the big projects and see where they are now, right, just a month or two afterwards, and the communities that are being built up over there.
The fact that Polygon is built in India, and it comes from that country, it's a country that has so many people that are tech-focused, that are oriented on, you know, really pushing the infrastructure when it comes to, like, what we have right now.
Like, it's big, it's bullish. It's going to take a little bit. There's obviously a huge learning curve. Might be two years, might be three years, might be a little bit more than that.
But to have all of those folks saying, hey, we have our own chain, right, let's build on it, let's learn how to develop, and let's learn how to network inside of it, it's humongous.
Because over here in the U.S., yeah, we focus on technology, but it's very surface level, right?
Like, hey, it's like, what's the new iPhone update? Like, what's the new vehicle that's going to come out?
But not to the nitty-gritty of the way that they do. So, super bullish. Thank you guys for having me up here.
Yeah, thanks for coming and joining us, obviously. Number one, you should have skipped a line with your, what do you call it up here?
Youth privilege or some bullshit? I don't know. Moral of the story, utility. I'm sorry, that's what it's called. Utility.
Yes, yes. So, put some respect on that utility, baby. Yeah, you do have to emphasize it a tiny bit, but that's okay.
That's what life is all about, emphasizing. Which, by the way, real quick, we do have a 20-minute hard stop.
If you're like, why? Because we have another crossover. Shut the fuck up, Zimmy.
We got another, Zimmy's like the Meg of the spaces at this point. If you're like, who's Meg? Meg Griffin.
Please, don't make me fucking say that one more time. But, we do have a crossover space that's happening at 2 p.m.,
where we're going to be covering different topics there. So, that's why I was very adamant about shifting the topic earlier on,
specifically to Polygon early on. So, please, retweet the space. If you haven't already, leave a comment.
If you have a question, we'll read from the comments a little bit. I do want to be better reading from the comments.
So, please, help us process that today. Plug something in the comments. Whether it's a question,
some feedback that you want to add in, I'll start reading from them in about, like,
five, six minutes. So, yeah. So, who did you want to go to the next big note?
Yeah, it's going to be creative. And the only one thing I want to say on what Mito said,
like, one more little thing, is that this is why the community is now saying that Polygon is inevitable.
Right? We were at that party at FTNYC. We were hanging out with the One Planet team. We're hanging out.
So, and all of us are like, you know, right now, just tweet it out. Polygon's inevitable.
And it is. It is. Because of all these things. And the more Web2 moves that happen,
the more confidence that puts in other Web2 companies to jump in. Right?
But like Benny said this a ton of times, these groups don't make five, ten-year plans.
They make 50, 100-year plans where they're trying to utilize the tech in the most direct way
and make sure that they're not just misstepping and making a bad investment.
Like, that's how these people plan things out. So, love to take Mito. It's awesome stuff across the board.
Want to kick it over to Creative, and then we're going to go over to Shan.
Yeah, Mito, you crushed it, and Fatty Bags was definitely on point.
I just want to touch on this part about the Polygon adoption or just in Web3.
UX and UI. Fatty Bags brought that up. That's been the biggest challenge for us. UX, UI.
Not only that, because we have people that are DGents that are at a young target audience
that are between 13 all the way to 19, and then from 20 to 23, and then the DGents.
Everybody uses different platforms, applications, and they also want different experiences
on those applications around the UX and UI. A year and a half ago, we didn't have any of that.
Now we're having that. So, that's what's really going to push the mass adoption
for people to get on the blockchain, not just Polygon.
We just saw it with Reddit, how many new wallets that they brought on. That's great with the new UX, UI.
But here we go, guys. Amazon. Amazon, the biggest marketplace in the world,
is about to launch an NFT marketplace. Not only are they going to help with the UX, UI,
but the customer service. That's the part where people get lost in, what do I go to?
And Amazon's going to provide that for them within the marketplaces moving forward.
So, that's going to cross that marketplace. Now, for the people that are coming into the NFT space,
this is the biggest mistake that we see. They mix investing with trading.
They don't understand what long-term investing is, and they don't understand what trading is
to gain capital. So, they get themselves stuck where they're like,
oh, I should have flipped this a while ago, or hey, I guess I'm investing into this in the long term.
So, people need to understand the value of projects and understand,
what is the goal of me buying this non-fundable token? Is it to be an investor and support this
artist? Or is it for me to trade to make a gain and, you know, to use that to make a return on
investment? So, keep that in mind as we're working with new technology, as the UX and the UI comes
into place, that's really going to shape that moving forward. And the polygon scene, it's really
been gamifying all to the beginning of this year. We talked about the creator fund. That fund was
really for blockchain games, right? We haven't seen an artist-creator fund where we're supporting
creators or innovators that are people that are building in the space yet, right? Polygon just
launched a $10 million IntelliX South Korea creator $10 million grant fund, right? Again, going to the
games, but not going to the creator. So, those are the things that we have to kind of level out for us
to be equally, you know, between games and creators or, you know, content creators for us to be successful
moving forward. But those are some points that I wanted to bring up. Fatty Bags brought up the UX. I
wanted to kind of circle with that. And Amazon. I mean, Amazon is really going to take the real
professionalism for the NFTs. Because right now, when people think about NFTs, it's the freaking meme
community that fuds it up. And then there's the real people that are trying to build on the technology
like myself. So, keep that in mind as you guys are getting into community, what your purpose is
moving forward. I absolutely love it, Creative. Thank you so much for joining us here today.
Obviously, one of our big brains out here who has been doing it longer than a lot of people. But
one thing I want to bring up is during one of my mid-parties I had about two weeks ago,
I had an IRL friend jump in. I was like, yeah, just give it a listen. Like, see what's up. He's
into crypto. He hasn't done NFT stuff yet, but he was just kind of absorbing things. And I couldn't
assist him, right? Because I was hosting this space. You know, there's like 100 people in this
space. I'm trying to juggle a lot of things. But he texted me on the side and he was like,
yo, this is sick. You all are not ready for this yet. Like, you know what? It's true. Like,
like what Fatty said, we like, like, we're not ready for people like him to jump in who don't like
want to have an easy, who want an easy path, right? And it needs to get friendlier. It needs to get more
cohesive. It needs to get more focused on that UI UX push on top of all the tech things and everything
is happening. So the focus needs to be on that creator. The focus needs to be on that user basis
improving consistently. So without me monologuing far too much, I have an amazing human up here,
Shantastic, who's a part of the Polygon community as well. Wanted to kick it over to her.
Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. What's going on?
I've been up since I don't even know what time. I was trying to ape into Suey, but like,
it seems to be a stable coin. So it was really boring. Anyway. So yesterday I had a phone call
with a friend from Solana, actually, and we were talking about market sentiment and how hard it is
for games to build right now. Because people say they want games, but they don't actually want to
play games. And to be sustainable, you need that retention and that sort of thing. And we were
talking about whether we think it's leading into a bull market, whether we think it's beer.
I think we personally, I think we're going sideways, not financial advice. But one of the things that
was brought up was the state, the state of people's, like the state of the sentiment, right?
And I said that on Polygon, at least, sentiment is reasonably okay. And I think it's because
of people like Fatty Bags who are bringing new users onto this chain, because these new people,
they have a fresh outlook in the space that we don't have. We're so jaded at this point,
a little bit bitter. And these new users, they just bring so much energy.
Like, if you go into the Reddit spaces, the APN spaces, the ones that haven't been around for
a long time in Web3, they're excited to be here. But one of the things that I noticed for a lot of
them is that they diamond hand everything, and they don't take any profits, which we've obviously
learned to do. But the thing that I have noticed...
Wait, was profits?
Yeah. The thing that I have seen from them, though, is that Fatty Bags has done a really,
really great job at onboarding them into the space and educating them on a lot of the things
that they need to know in coming here. And these people, they're going to go reach out to their
own groups of friends and do the same. And that's what we need in this space. And so I
think that Fatty has played a really, really important role, not just in bringing the Reddit
users over, because most of the Reddit users that are here, that bring that energy, they
came with Fatty, right? But he's also done an excellent job at educating them in the space.
And you can see that he's here to further the chain, just from what he's building, how he's
talked, how him and machinists go about things. They're real, they're builders, and I just really
enjoy their energy. I love all the spaces they're in, because you never get bored in their spaces
either. And I think that's a big part of retention. So yeah, that's what I've got to say today.
I appreciate you.
Shan's a goat, man. She's been doing this for a long time. She's been on multiple blockchains,
but she's found home here on Polygon. And we just really appreciate everything that you bring to the
table, Shan. Continue to be exactly you. And you're right. Like we've given, so first, like every one of
us has a role to play here. Everyone should understand that, right? Whether you're in a space,
you're hosting, whether you're educating people, whether you're creating, whether you're investing
or flipping, whatever you want to say, right? Everyone has a role to play. And like a lot of
us are going to have to find that in the next few, I would say, weeks, I would think, in my opinion,
because there's a lot that's going on here. And there's a lot of quick moves that are going to
happen. And, you know, Shan has brought immaculate vibes in the past few months that I've met her.
So I really appreciate that. And everyone is just kind of playing their role very, very well.
So, sons, you can definitely take it next. I do want to kick it over to Fatty for one more
question, because for all the love that we've given Fatty, we actually haven't heard him talk
all that much. So I want to make sure he gets a little bit more face time here.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, you know, us fathers big now. We like, we like to listen,
talk as little as possible, make sure we get our naps as soon as possible. Because once you drop
that kid off, it is good game for like five, six hours. And that's all we got.
Uh, and I choose to spend about three of those hours on spaces. So here we are. But look,
let's read some of the comments here. Uh, could them animal was, what's your favorite color?
Teal. Um, don't ask me why we could save that for another spaces. Uh, make stop by to catch a
polygon shot with Sansa. Welcome to the fucking polygon shot. Uh, even though we're ending in
like 10 minutes, but that's okay. Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome. Uh, and then we got
Fredo saying good morning. We got, uh, at the gym, listening to your spaces, laughing my ass off.
Well, you're welcome. Uh, I'm here, I'm here to provide you some entertainment between breaks.
King, uh, Jimmy goes, you win. I'll retweet when I'm up there. Polygon is inedible. I'm so bullish
on polygon. Uh, sorry, my little brother is so hyperactive. Uh, our parents warned, warned us that
he was, he was a tiny bit special. Uh, someone said, don't fade the Pepe, uh, fade Pepe.
Uh, you're, you're not going to get anything out of it. I promise. Uh, uh, you got high Sansa.
Good morning, everyone. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Uh, sailor forces said
big nail. How can you fuck the Chad project? This was 25 minutes ago. That's my bad. This
is a little bit delayed, but, uh, yeah, I'm not, I'm not. All right. Well, that's about
it. Uh, someone said they learned to code. Oh yeah, this was, this was early, early. Uh,
when watch bought up, I feel the need to bring up the context here. Everyone, a watch was
bringing up porn sites and how porn is the reason the internet got big in the
first place. Uh, I tend to agree, tend to agree, tend to agree. Um, among other
things, obviously. But, uh, this guy said, I learned to code HTML and edited with the
front page back in the day. Uh, and porn sites always had the best tech. I mean, you
know, when you want to provide a specific audience with a, uh, you know, with a, with
a very immersive experience, you want to have the best tech. Otherwise, what are
we doing here guys? What are we doing here? Anyway, that being said, that was the
comment read of the day. That was interesting. I like that. We might do that
more, uh, by my, I mean, we will be doing that more, but, uh, big nail back to you.
I didn't mean to fud Chad coin. I have no idea what it has to be about. I did comment
on the fact that I don't know how it advances the space forward where, uh, besides
financially, obviously if you're, if you're advancing your financial bags,
congratulations, claps to you, but, uh, don't know how it pushes us in the
direction that I would like us to see be pushed. So that's just my very brief
opinion on that. Um, yeah, we don't want to see you make it clearly. Hold on a
second. I, I also, I also feel the need to, just like we defined the difference
between a, a failed project, a rug and a soft rug, et cetera, et cetera. The same, the
same definition needs to happen with critical discussion, FUD, and just being a
fucking dick. Like that is those, that's where we need to clear the definition a
little bit. So, uh, one, it's really, really, really, really easy to just not be
a fucking dick. Uh, two, if you're like, what a critical discussion look like, it
means being as objective as you can possibly believe, believe, be, uh, I can't
fucking talk apparently possibly be, um, with the idea of, you know, kind of
leaving out, say name calling, uh, cursing. If you're like, well, fuck that
motherfucking shit. What about this project? Like you don't have to do those
first four to five words. You can just say, what is this project about? It's not
that hard. And if you think it's hard, you need to reevaluate your fucking
vocabulary and get educated because my co-host only knows the words shot the fuck
off and jungle and proof of espresso shot. And my co-host only knows how to
monologue and process the fucking monologue sound. But anyway, that being
said, uh, that's how I define them. Uh, you probably weren't paying attention.
That's fine. We got, we got to put a little refresher here and there, but big
nail back to you. Okay. So I got a question for fatty and then I want to get
these last final hands, right? So I'm trying to get some value here in the last
eight minutes. Um, so over the next few weeks, right? You have a lot of, uh, I
would say a lot of things in the oven, a lot of, uh, you know, plates going at the
same exact time. And so I want to see just from, from your perspective, like
what's on the front burner for Aplians or Wraithworks or Reddit? What is your
next focus for the next like week here? Yeah, I appreciate it. Uh, first and
foremost, I would say that I'm getting a maximum value from this space. If I'm
laughing after a long night with the kiddo, Sansa, you know, you need, you need
that. You need that, bro. We're going to work. We made it, mama. We made it. We
did it. We fucking did it. No, I, I appreciate the space, man. I appreciate
the good vibes a hundred percent. As far as moving forward, uh, the
immediates are the artist workshop. So with about 32 Reddit artists, we're going
over, you know, full fledged educational panel with multiple classes. Those will be
recorded. And then we also were discussing that we want to go ahead and throw
those up on YouTube, um, for free, as long as, uh, there's no sensitive stuff
that's discussed with the artists, but the education itself, uh, we want to build
this out so that any artists in the space, not just the Reddit artists can, you
know, reference them and go, Oh, this is what it takes to set up a discord. This is
how you set up pandas is how you set up different security measures. This is best
practice. So we're going over everything from, from discord to web three best
practices and security, uh, to the psychological effects of being a founder. Uh, one of the
cool things about the program too, is that, um, we have one of the artists of Reddit is
an actual, uh, therapist, a licensed therapist. Uh, so we're going to plug her in there too,
to speak with people on how you can deal with the, the mental aspect of all of this. Um,
if you are a founder in this space, you know, that it does not shut off. Um, and some people
are not built for that, or they need training to become built for that. Uh, so I think that
that's a cool little bonus. And she was super sweet to say, Hey, I would love to do this and
help people, uh, with the mental aspect. So just all kinds of unique niche, uh, educational
opportunities there, uh, with Aplians, obviously we, uh, we are doing some fun stuff there as
well. We're doing the trait re-rolls. We're doing the, the castration station for people
that didn't, didn't like the balls on the Aplians. So you can take those bad boys square
off. Uh, you know, you can take the nipples off.
They didn't like the balls. I love the balls there, bro. I was like, this is great. Somebody
clip that. Somebody clip what I just said. You, and that was another question too. We'll
consider it. People were like, dude, I want, I want nipples. I want lots of nipples. So
we're, we're, we're, we're considering it all, uh, all jokes aside. Um, we're doing trait
swaps, uh, at the end of the month. So you'll be able to roll into trait pools and grab new
art that we're adding as well. I'll be adding new one of ones to the collection. Uh, and we'll
do evolutions that way. Um, so with Aplians, we're just, we're also going to be adding
the slime staking, which is a valueless token, a community token that is not intended, nor
do we support the creation of an LP using the slime token. Fuck you, Gary Gensler. Uh,
you heard me say it live is on a recorded space. Uh, so I just wanted to put that out
there, but the slime will be used to re-roll traits. Um, so people can personalize, uh, their
Aplians, the 6k version, uh, in higher definition. And then by the end of this week, we have
the, the claim for your pixelated larva. I know a lot of people were like, dude, where'd
my larva go? Uh, it was always part of the plan that the pixelated larva would be airdropped,
but we realized after we built the bridge from Arbitrum to Polygon, uh, that we have some
stoners that have not bridged their larva over. Uh, so it would be awkward for us to airdrop.
It wouldn't work out because people would be bridging late. So instead we've created a whole
claim interface so that you can take your Bapelian claim and then, uh, you know, claim
it yourself and grab a larva, but you can also check the token IDs of your, of the Bapelians
that are for sale and see if there's a larva to claim. So there's some sniping opportunities
that we've created for like a little, a little extra gamification for people if they want
to collect some, some cool pixelated versions. So, uh, enough about my project, uh, moving
forward, it's educate, educate, educate, get on top of the rooftop screen, uh, from the top
that we need, you know, education equals retention is joining spaces like this. Uh, these conversations
are what you want to have for the new people that are in here, uh, to hear Sansa shotgun
nil, uh, you know, all of these speakers talk a sham. These speakers talk about the fact that
there are shit coins out there that will get you hurt. And somebody that's not riding that
hype wave. There's a reason they're called shake coins in this space. They extract liquidity
from unknowing people who are riding a FOMO induced wave. And yes, you can make money off
of them. Yes. You can be a DJ and yes, there's a place for that. But as a new person in this
space, you need to be fucking careful because you will become someone else's exit liquidity
if you are not on that computer 24 seven watching that price action. So I just want to put that
out there. And that's another reason I'm happy to be here is that there are guys up on this
stage calling shit coins, what they are shit coins calling a lot of defies ponzu nomics,
what it is fucking ponzies. So please understand that a lot of what you see in this space is not
this actual Twitter space, but the web three space defy space, uh, and machina says this all the time.
It is a lot of ponzu nomics ponzies and smoke and mirrors. So you have to trust, but you have to
verify or you're going to get wrecked. So thank you guys for having me up here and let me go on a
little monologue. Uh, I am happy to come up here anytime and support what you guys are doing
because you're spitting truth. And that's super important to me. Talk to him, King. Talk to him.
Good stuff across the board. Let him know that monologue was yummy.
Uh, yeah, we both did the same time. That was freaking weird. Uh, we were just both in each other's
ear. It was a little weird, but I was like, no, we took, we, we, oh, by the way, we didn't rehearse
that. And that is not, we don't rehearse anything behind the scenes here. We just literally,
I press start and we just get the ball fucking rolling. That's why me, big nail, uh, are fucking
on the same page when it comes to that noise. I love it. Oh, man. Okay. We have two minutes.
We have two minutes. I need to get these last hands. Manimal. You're not going to go again.
I'm very sorry. These people haven't talked yet. I love you a lot. Uh, you know that. So exactly.
You totally get it. You're my homie. Um, we'll, we'll, we'll send it. We'll send it five minutes.
We'll send it five minutes. As long as it's not, you're not skipping family time or anything like
that. That's the main thing. That's the main thing. Um, okay. Wait, I have a, I have a family. I don't have one yet,
but I'm working on it. Um, so I want to go down to Zodiac. Hasn't had an opportunity to speak yet.
Obviously fatty. Thank you for coming here. Would love to have you back multiple times to make sure
that you continue to provide this value. This is why we do this shit, right? Everyone understands
this. Uh, we want people to understand that there are real people out here in this space and there
are people that are not trying to be authentic. And if you're new in this space, you're going to get
hurt and then you're not going to stick around. That's the main thing here. Uh, we want to make sure
that we push the ball forward always. So Zodiac, take my goddamn mic.
How are you? Hello everyone. How are you doing?
Doing good, my friend. So yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, what's good? What's good? How are we living?
How are we vibing Zodiac? How are we doing? I'm good. I'm good. So I would like to ask you a
question about like, um, I'm founding a collection named baby world private club. And I would like
to ask you what advice can, can you, can you tell me so I can build a strong community around it?
Yeah. 100%, man. I think the biggest thing that I tell people that have jumped in and we just had
a project to totally flop, uh, in the polygon ecosystem. I'm not even going to mention the
name because the first time that I heard the name, it was the first time I was hearing the project
name. Uh, that kind of speaks a lot to it, right? If you aren't engaging in the ecosystem yourself,
if you're not jumping into the PSP projects, if you're not connecting with community members,
you aren't going to fail on polygon. That is just plain. I don't care if you have a launch pad. I
don't care if you have anything in your back pocket. I don't care how cool your art is. You will not have
success until you integrate yourself fully into this space. I had a breezy guy. He comes in here and
bugs me every time because he hates polygon and just starts laughing. It's so funny. Don't pay
generational wealth, man. Don't hurt my bags at all. Um, the moral of the story is you need to
dive. It shouldn't be me. Right. Uh, literally dive into the ecosystem and reach out to these people
on stage, connect with Manimal, connect with creative owls, connect with Fetty bags, reach out to the
poly chads. Poly chads is a massive group that's building right now, but it's originally from Solana and
stargaze. They have jumped in full force into making sure that there's resources out here for
the newer users of polygon, possibly like yourself, not saying that you haven't been on polygon for
a while, but I'm just making an assumption. And so if you reach out to the poly chads group,
just jump into their discord, have a conversation with them, start engaging with the human because
what polygon is more than a blockchain, more than technology, more than financial gains. It's
good fricking people that want to have authentic relationships. That is why we're here because we
saw a path for the common human out here that doesn't require a billion dollars to get you
started or VC funding. That is the biggest thing I want to push on polygon is the reason why people
made fun of us and being PC or whatever you used to call polygon. It's because we were building in a
collective nature, not in a destructive nature, like other chains possibly do. So I will say
integrate yourself as much as you can with the humans that have been doing it for a long time
in the right ways. And you will have a ton of long-term success. The people that fade that
opportunity, the people that launch a project on polygon fail and then say, oh, we're going to go to
Solana. It's a weird move. Like, do you think you're gonna have any more success over there? Like, I
don't know. Or you could look internally and have an actual conversation about it and push the ball
forward. With that being said, we did lose a hex. I want to kick it over to Mammal because we've got
three more minutes. You can ask, you can get your two cents in Mammal. I hated to fade you before.
That hurt my brain. Try to fade me, bro. Try to fade me. You don't fade the Mammal, dog.
Thank you, Sansa, for not fading Mammal. Hacks walks so Mammal can run.
I've got it right now. No, I just wanted to say big, big give flowers to fatty bags and what he's
doing out here. The education part of that right there is the one thing that I think is the most
important. And that's what Big Nill and Creative and myself, we've been trying to, we've been
pushing this forward since 2021. Like, educating people how to use a wallet, making videos,
sharing those videos. Like, how to get mad at it. You know, how to bridge use, like,
make videos on how to bridge and like, you know, all those types of things. And the other part of
that that I love is the part that we don't think about, which is that psychological effect.
Um, you know, a lot of artists will get imposter syndrome. They don't think they belong, um, a lot
and, and founders, like, like you said, like being a founder of a project, like, oh my God, like
that right there, that mental toll. Um, if you're not prepared or not trained on how to be a leader
and a founder, then, you know, you're, you're, you're going to drop the ball and you're going
to fail. And so the fact that you guys are bringing that in to your, uh, ecosystem and having
literally a licensed therapist, like that's amazing to me. That's so amazing. I just want to give
those flowers. I want to shout out to creative here as well. Uh, the homie, uh, the OG owl on
the polygon blockchain. He's got a showcase coming up polygon showcase this month. Uh,
go ahead and just click on his little profile pic there and you can check it out. Um, it's
going to be massive. It always is. And it's always a great time to go inside spatial, run around,
talk to people, get to hear from founders about their projects. And it's, it's an amazing event.
It's very awesomely laid out. He's a very good creator inside of spatial. Um, so I highly
recommend you guys checking that out and making, giving them a follow to Zodiac. Like,
um, uh, like, uh, what big Nill said, make sure you connect with everyone. Make sure you're
following myself, big Nill, uh, creative, obviously the other two co-hosts here, maybe not shotgun,
but definitely follow Saza. Um, uh, wait, Oh, Hey, what's up? Just kidding. But yeah, we,
I've got less than a minute, but yeah, like you said, jump into poly chads, jump in, follow us,
make sure you're at the bells and whistles on. So whenever you see big Nill myself, uh, in spaces,
you come into those spaces and you, and you come in and you introduce yourself to the community,
because like you said, we're all about investing in founders nowadays, um, and, and really investing
in people and not necessarily investing in the, just the PFPs. Um, it's about the people behind
those as well. So definitely jump in and get involved in the space in that way.
You can't fade value, my friends. You can't fade value out here. You can't fade education. You can't,
you can't, you can't fade good people. That's what it really comes down to. The most proud thing that I
have about the polygon ecosystem that's being built right now, the new polygon, the, the refurbished
polygon ecosystem, I will say is that we've held that solid. That hasn't changed at all. It's still
good humans, uh, you know, assisting good humans. And if anybody kind of disrupts that, we always,
Shan was up here. Shan is the call out your bullshit specialist. It is so sick when Shan gets fired up.
It's like, you don't know what you're doing out here. Like you live, she just called him out
seriously. She's like, you know, we've been doing this for a while and you are just making a fool of
yourself. You understand that? Uh, so yeah, number one, just want to wrap up by saying,
I appreciate, I appreciate each and every one of you. I have really just love what the conversation
is in here each and every week, regardless if it's the conversation of the value of polygon or
the education, whatever it may be, this is the way that we advance this space. We roll this ball of
hill together where there's noise across the board, whether it's ship coin season, influence your drama,
whatever it is. We do this in the collective nature that we do it so that people will stay
here longer and they can understand why we are obsessed with this technology, why we know this is
going to move the future forward, the world forward so much faster than anybody can even comprehend.
That's the real gist of the entire thing. We have Benny with his hand up. He's an honorary co-host.
I guess he can wrap us up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's fine. It's fine. He's also a father,
so he was probably dropping his kid off too. Uh, Betty was good. Yeah. How the hell did I miss the
whole space and it's didn't miss the space. You guys are going way over schedule. Well,
and, and we have another spaces coming in, uh, 20 minutes. So that's awesome. If we were on time,
you wouldn't even pull up, Betty. You wouldn't even have showed up at all. Listen, listen, listen.
I am web two building currently. All right. The growth that my business has seen between web two,
what I mean, quarter one and quarter two has been, okay. Can't fade the IRL profits. Anyways. Uh,
yeah, listen, I'll listen back to the space polygon. Don't fade it. Anything past that. I've absolutely
nothing to say. Waja been looking at your, uh, workout pictures, cute as shit. Love you.
Yo, Ben, I actually got a question for you. I got a legitimate question. We were out here
fighting shit coins, saying how much this shit is senseless. And we don't know. Is it a zero or a
moon? And you had a very, very interesting tweet this morning. You said Pepe is still an actual
place. So could you please develop and maybe wait, who are you asking that? Who are you asking that right
now? I mean, listen, bro. Um, fuck Pepe's culture, you know? Um, and it's culture past web three,
unfortunately. Like there's a bunch of all, once the office bros start talking about it,
he kind of sort of can't fade anymore. Also I'm in some discords that like, yeah, people are making
money off shit coins. What are you offering me? But do your own research. Do not put your money
into shit coins. I'm not, that's not what I'm saying to do, but Pepe really seems like, uh,
it could, it could be something, man. And somebody posted a chart where it's like, it's where Shiba
was. It's like still lower than Shiba and Doge was, you know, two years. It's like, it's hard to
fade those things, man. Fucking FOMO. What do you want from me? I guess what we'll say on that point
though, it's the same reason why AMC and GME was good for the regular investor, even though most people
got burned. Right. The reason why I got into stock investing is because AMC mooned and I made a
couple of dollars and I saw, okay, financial investments. I need to make sure I focus on
that more. And that led me to crypto, which led me to NFT. So, okay. I just ate my words over the
last hour and a half. I'm done. Yeah. Yeah. No big no. You crushed it today. I appreciate you,
brother. Um, and you know, Benny, Benny coming in right at the last second, I'm like, I have the music
queued up. I'm ready to do my closing remarks. Classic, classic look, everyone. We love you.
We appreciate you. Thank you for coming to the polygon shot. You guys know, we do this every
single Wednesday. Um, we were always happy to have you always happy to dive into polygon talk.
Y'all know we did a weather report for the first 20, 30 minutes. We, we talk about it. We bring it up,
try to get a little bit discussion going with it in case there's anything we miss in case there's
anything that we should tell people, et cetera, et cetera. Uh, we have expanded from just the
weather report to, uh, what a report, jungle report, Matic minute, uh, and in the macro crisis,
economic report by wise. So we got a lot, we got a lot going on. Um, and I haven't had my second
cup of coffee and I'm going to go out for a jog immediately right after this to, uh, awaken my
spirits once more. But I want to give a quick shout out to fatty bags for coming through.
I appreciate you a quick shout out to anyone that came up and spoke on stage today.
If you haven't already, give each other a follow. It's always nice to see each other from this
perspective. The way I look at it is that they came up and spoke more likely than not. They're
a real person, not AI. So shouldn't follow. Why not? Um, but yeah, guys, we love you. You could
have been anywhere, but you came to this basis. Uh, we appreciate you. We're grateful for you.
We'll be, we'll obviously going to do one in about 20 minutes. We'll be back again tomorrow,
uh, 1130 to 1 PM. We're going to have Jen from Paris space coming on. We're going to dive a little
bit deeper into blend and just kind of lending in the NFT space in general. I know watch is super
excited about that. He just had to change his pants. So, uh, that being said, guys, we love you.
We appreciate you. Uh, this one dedicated to all the dads out there.
I got bills, I gotta pay, so I'm gonna work, work, work every day. I got mouths, I gotta pee,
I got bills, I gotta pay, so I'm gonna make sure. I'm telling my bodies, I got bills.
I got bills, I got bills, I got bills, I got bills, I got bills, I got bills.
They looking like a mouth. All these little kids running around, I can hear their stomachs
growling. Just full moon out, and my girls just keep on high.
Says she's gonna need me, I'm coming home with 50,000.
Guys, touch some grass, touch some math
Just make sure it's with consent
I love y'all
Have a great fucking Wednesday
Let's get out for it
Let's go
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