And welcome to What We Made Here, I'm Glenn, your host today, we've got joining us the
We'll be jumping into the project shortly, but first, maybe you can give us an introduction
and tell us a bit about yourself and how you got involved in the crypto industry.
I'm a venture capitalist based out of Tulsa, Oklahoma.
We specialize in emerging technologies.
And so we've been around for the past 20 years in different forms.
We recently registered with the SEC about a year ago now as at the guidance of our legal
So we're fully registered.
Now we had then moved into the space probably about two years ago.
So we started kind of dabbling in that area and just really dive deep about three months
Okay, thanks for the introduction, Nick.
So maybe for the spaces, you can introduce us to the Pulse DeFi, what you're building
in the crypto industry and how the project started.
So the Pulse DeFi is an algorithmic trading bot that's a price action bot that runs on
So typically for those who don't know what prop firms are, they are proprietary firms
that give you access to a liquidity pool.
In this case, what our team does, we have built out a bot that runs on prop firms and
on average runs about 1% to 5% a month.
But then when you think about that, it runs on a $200,000 prop firm.
And so your gross amount before they're cut is typically right around $3,500.
And then after it pays out, you're looking at typically between somewhere between $1,600
Maybe we can start with some technical questions, but sort of in layman's terms, we don't go
And I'm not really a technical guy either.
And for the spaces, it's better to keep it at high level.
So I was wondering, can you explain in layman's terms how the algorithm behind the pulse trading
So the pulse bot was designed, and specifically the algorithm was designed, to act in a way
Just as most EAs, which are expert advisors, or bots work, this one runs autonomously, meaning
it does not require human intervention.
It's not one of those ones that's kind of an indicator.
It actually, where it gets in, and it will run on its own, and it will take, on average
it takes about 20 to 30 trades per session that it's in.
And so by the end of the month, you're looking at hundreds and hundreds of trades that it
Now what makes this unique, the way we've programmed it, there's only a couple of other
firms out there that actually have this technology at this moment, that we're all different.
But the other firms run around $20,000 for their bot.
The next one right up that is $50,000.
The way we have designed this is to run on the blockchain, specifically the Binance Smart
Chain is where our contract is residing.
We've designed the bot to function in a way that we call them pin holders.
So if you buy the bot, it's $5,000 USDC.
Now what that buys you is the bot, and we uniquely program it for, so it's a unique
There's no other one out there like it.
And then we pass the challenge for you, and then we also pay for the challenge for you.
So it's all inclusive right in that $5,000 USDC.
Now what's great about this is that we work with you hand in hand during the construction
That typically takes about five to 10 business days, and it takes about 14 days right now,
on average, to pass the challenge.
Now we do that, we run through about eight to 10 prop firms, and we rotate through them.
So now picture this for a moment.
You've got about eight to 10 prop firms that these bots are running on, all unique.
And so as you're picturing this, there's this, you have a unique bot, the next person has
So say there's like the example we put in the white paper, say there's 100 pin holders
or 100 bots running at $200,000 liquidity pool that is trading off that, then it goes,
that means there's $20 million in liquidity between 100 different pins that's trading.
And so what it does is then those prop firms will pay out directly into the smart contract.
So this is where it gets really great for everyone.
So when you're looking at this, you may have one bot like we had one, when we did our audit
of everyone last week, where everyone stood, and you'll see them on our telegram chat,
is that we had one person that made roughly, I think he's at like, he's out of South Africa
and has like $5,800, but then we had another person that was only making, you know, $872.
So the great thing about that is whenever these payouts go into the contract, it averages
So if someone had a, a really losing month in, in the fact that maybe their bot went
into drawdown, it actually, they're still getting paid because the contract averages
It's an autonomous feature.
And so this, we set this up in such a unique way to where it's affordable to the most people
by comparison of say $20,000 or $50,000, which the other bots with other companies have built
We're really excited about bringing this to the space because it is something that actually
shows and has true utility.
It's a hundred percent transparent.
You can see it on your dashboard with the prop firms, and then you can even see it on
So even let's put it this way.
I mean, we have, we'll give an example of one prop firm that we use because the geo
restricted the U S but now you're looking at prop like F TMO, which is one of the oldest
prop firms around is one of the prop firms that our bot can run on and does run on.
So our international clients, they love F TMO because it's been around forever and it's,
it's one of the best payout ones.
And we have back tested this.
We started back in June, July of, of 2023 and the first payout started coming in October.
And so we've been really pushing this.
We've been refining our processes.
Like I said, to bring this to the space.
And can you give examples of types of customizations available?
If I want to get one of these trading bots, what can I saw customize it to work for me?
So on the website, it's the pulse defy.ai.
So as you go through there, you'll see our white papers.
So I'm just going to, uh, we kind of give an explanation and you can go to the white
And what this does is as the bot runs on several different pairings in Forex as well as indices.
So we keep not only is the bot unique, but then we keep the prop firms unique, meaning
we keep rotating them out.
So every, we'll pull some prop firms out with wave one and then push them back in as we
And then we each one, we, we run it on a different pair and we run it on some of the indices.
And so as we're working with you hand in hand to build this out, once it's done, I can't
say it's passive because I live in the U S that's, that's not, that's not really what
What I can say is it is primarily hands off because throughout this entire process, even
after it's built out and it's running on your prop firm, the way this works, we still
have to stay in contact with you and, and help you through everything is it sits on
So it sits on its own server, has its own IP address, the bot.
And so it, we maintain it on the backend by pushing out updates.
So for those of you who, who do know about bots, they are amazing pieces of technology.
However, they actually need constant upgrades and constant updates to, because the market
itself, there's new highs and new lows that comes in all the time.
So as part of the subscription on the backend, there is a 20% subscription royalty fee.
That's on the backend of the contract that you don't have to pay off payout.
This is like where you write a check or anything to us that actually is part of the smart contract
And the reason why this is great is because the front end, we've lowered the cost down
as much as possible to where there's just very small margins on us in the front end
So we've got that as low as we can go.
And then on the backend, that's where we make our money.
So we make our money whenever you guys and everyone else makes money with their bot through
this maintenance, the subscription fee, very much like having a Microsoft word.
You continue to pay a subscription fee and you get updates on the latest and greatest
So that's, that's my comparison to how this works, but the customization of it is just
truly phenomenal because we work with you and then as we're building it out, whichever
prop firm you select, we customize it to that prop firm as well.
So for example, the reason why prop firms are so difficult to work with for most people
that do it manually is because they were made for people to fail.
And I say that in an opinionated way because the restrictions are like you, most of the
time you can't have 4% drawdown on a day and which is oftentimes very difficult to do.
You can't hold trades into the weekend.
We have, there's consistency rules, meaning you can't take big swing trades, but our bot
was customized for each person in their prop firm they select as well as unique algorithm
to where when it is taking smaller trades to keep it within that target.
So yeah, it's, it's one to 5% a month, which that doesn't sound like a lot, but when you,
the actual income that you're coming in on average is right around 16, $1,800 take home.
That turns out to be because you have a one-off purchase, meaning you're never pushing more
money in like you do with a lot of DeFi projects, a lot of crypto units constantly pushing in
capital to make it grow and grow and grow.
This actually is what's called a one-off purchase.
So in actuality, because you're getting around $1,600 a month, that's a 33% to 40% return
That's how this is designed to be something that like nurses, something that, that missionaries
something teachers could, could afford compared to the competition that runs and pushes out
$20,000 and $50,000 price tags.
And I was wondering what's the sort of criteria for selecting compatible proprietary trading
firms that you mentioned there, where the pull spot will operate.
I can say that one more time.
You broke up just a little bit for me there.
I was wondering what are the criteria for selecting compatible proprietary trading firms
that you mentioned and where the pull spot will operate.
So we, whenever you sign up, there's a user, there's a sales agreement and user subscription.
Once you sign that and you go through our DAP, our decentralized application for this.
So once you pay the 5,000 USDC, that goes into a separate account, our operating account.
And so from there, the team sends you off the sales agreement and user subscription
that goes through everything.
Once that sign, the next step is then they send you the welcome on onboarding and it
gives you in that welcome onboarding packet.
It gives you a list of the prop firms, the proprietary firms.
Now it is up to each individual to look over each prop firm and see what they would like
And we, cause obviously we're not financial advisors.
You know, we're just a software registered software development company in Oklahoma.
So we are an actual registered company.
This is not necessarily a protocol.
We are a legitimate company that is insured and everything.
And we have a DAP that we use as our payment portal.
And so the selection of the prop firm is entirely up to the individual on which $200,000 prop
firm that they would like to use.
And how does the pulse DeFi monitor and ensure the optimal performance of each bond?
So we actually have staff on the back end that they don't tell the bot when to make
There's no manual trading done, but they do ensure that whenever there is actually like
news, you know, maybe volatile trades, news comes out that they turn off the box manually.
So or they make sure that during the session that they're supposed to run in, everyone,
everything is turned on and turned off in that time period with the, we have never had
a prop firm breach the trading rules before whatsoever.
The only time, which means say breach trade rules, let me define this a little bit better.
Breaching trading rules is where you went out of a prop firms restrictive guidelines.
So something typically people breach their accounts by going into excess drawdown or
holding trades too long or doing swing trades, something that would be considered risk to
Now because the way we have it set up is, well, first of all, let me put a pin in that
We, during our beta testing, we did have one person where their account was terminated.
Now the only reason why that was terminated was because the account held a trade over
We had turned off the bot and all the trades were closed out and there was an issue and
we couldn't, we didn't figure it out even to this day, um, why the bot was still able
And so, but what we did was we overhauled it.
And of course that's why you have beta testers is we overhaul the bot and then add in manual
oversight to see, to make sure like a human was physically there to once it finished out
all its trades, we turned off the bot and then we turned off the terminal and then we
So nothing would go held over into the weekend.
And so there are occasions where we have had to let the bot run its course, but we were
making sure that it wouldn't take any additional trades as well and just close out the current
So there's a manual oversight in the fact that they are watching the bot from the backend
on after making sure that whenever the session closes out, that all the trades are done and
they turn it off and shut it off.
And what they also do is during the weekend, whenever it is closed out, they actually push
in the updates because we can't push updates out to the bot during, while it's trading,
Got you Nick, maybe the AI bot was sent in and switched itself back on the weekends to
But so is it based on Monday's to Friday then?
Is it more like a sort of stock trading book in crypto?
And then you actually doing maintenance on the bots of the weekends?
So essentially our trading timeframe that we have a program for is so it runs on the
Tokyo and London sessions.
We do not like it running on the New York session.
It's just a little too volatile for the way that we have a program.
We like that consistent even flow with the bot and the trades it takes.
Now, something that I do like to mention is our company is in the business of under-promising
and over-delivering and making sure there's an equitable exchange.
And the way this is designed is to make sure that the equitable exchange here is not only
can a, in theory, a person can ROI on their initial purchase in about three months to
four months based on the math provided in the white paper, but also that it's an equitable
exchange for the prop firms.
Meaning something that I should probably clarify too is the way you can tell that there's no
manual trading involved in this and the way that you can tell that this is not copy trading.
So for most people that to clarify copy trading is like, say, if you look at your left hand,
there's a person manually trading over here and then your left hand is a prop firm.
Then there's the space in between is like an API key or a copy trader.
That manual trader is sending out signals to all these different prop firm accounts on this prop
trader, which means that if that trader did something horribly wrong and blew an account,
it could catastrophically run a prop firm.
So that's why prop firms don't allow copy trading.
So this is an equitable exchange for the client.
It's an equitable exchange for us as a company and an equitable exchange for the prop firm
because we are building out something in our minds because like if you remember what I
told you right front, it's very slim profit margins in the front.
We did it that way purposely because then our subscription is a fee on the back end.
Our maintenance fee and everything built in there is how we earn profit.
So we are literally dependent on the growth and the sustainability of the pulse and its
members and the subscribers like that.
So we are truly building out something with a long term vision involved.
So what happens if a bot underperforms or fails a prop challenge?
Is there like a contingency plan in place?
And that's an excellent question.
So the way we also have this design, we've tried to think about as many things as possible
where people have failed in the past and we've improved upon that.
So we haven't had a prop firm challenge fail yet.
And the reason why we do that is because we have specialized bots that will trade the one for
those prop challenges and we get through them very quickly.
Now, with that said, hypothetically, if a challenge did fail, we have it in our contract to where we
will pay for the next challenge on us.
We are that confident in our product that if something does happen and a challenge does fail, we will
pay for the next one on us, meaning the pulse will pay the cost and send you the money to pay for
Now, where this gets interesting here, too, is hypothetically, I've had people ask me, well, what
happens if you fail the next that challenge?
The one after that is then on the customer because there's something inherently wrong in the system.
Then if that happens, we've never even failed the first one.
That means there is a flaw somewhere, but we are more than open to working out some kind of an
agreement on that end with the customer.
But like I said, we haven't even come close to failing a challenge yet.
The only thing that we have seen is where a prop firm has said, hey, you didn't complete all of the
trading days, meaning like they have a minimum of five trading days and we finished it in three.
And the team was just like, OK, so we have to continue to trade for two more days to pass the
That's where we've come across because each basically each twenty two hundred thousand dollar
prop firm, what they require is a minimum of twenty thousand dollars in paper trading to be
conducted and profit on that account.
And so that's what we have to do in that time span is to make sure that we hit that mark of twenty
And not only that, but we abide by every single rule they have listed out, meaning low to no
drawdown, meaning that there's consistent trade, no swing trading whatsoever, and that we are
staying well in their guidelines on everything we do.
And so, like I said, haven't failed one yet, but we have policies in place.
If it does happen, we are there for the customer.
And how does Polstify manage the updates and maintenance of each bot without compromising its
That's an excellent question.
So as we go through, we have bots that run with our beta testing group like in our sandbox is what we
would call it to test out new algorithms because we're always updating the algorithms to make sure
that they are maintained on the back end.
So essentially what happens is when there's new highs and lows in the market and there's new, you
know, because the market for what most people need to understand is the market is alive because we're
alive. The market reacts to humans.
And so, you know, every war that goes on, every volatile news, it affects the market in every single
way. I mean, you can see that even from Bitcoin, it's it fluctuates with humans as well.
And it fluctuates then the Forex market fluctuates, stock market fluctuates all because we live and we
breathe and we live on this world together.
And so we go in and make sure that those updates that we're preparing for ahead of time are then
integrated on the back end for those specific set files.
And a set file is a set parameters for a bot.
Got it, Nick. And so if I'm listening to space and I'm interested in purchasing one of the trading bots,
could you sort of walk us through the process of how a trading bot is created from the moment an
investor makes the initial purchase?
Certainly. So without going too far into the IP side of it is whenever if you go to the
Pulse DeFi dot A.I., you click over on the DAT button in the upper right hand corner.
So that takes you to our payment processor.
And this is the same one. So up front on this on this first one, let everyone can see unless you have a
So it's five thousand USDC.
It notifies us or it pings me that there's been a purchase made and you do a like KYC, like KYC, meaning
your main in your email address.
Then it attaches to that specific wallet address that you're purchasing it on.
So from there, the the sales agreement and user agreement is sent out to the client.
Once signed, the team will then send you the onboarding packet that explains the process.
And as you're walking through this, there is actually I believe right now we have we always keep
eight, but we have 10 to 12 prop firms that we rotate through.
And so for wave one, which is where we're at, what we it's up to 100 pins.
It could be beyond that because we're getting a lot coming in and people are on ramping right now is that
there are those set of that particular set of prop firms.
And then once we go to wave two, we'll rotate to another set of prop firms.
And so we work with the individual and it's very simple, very easy to onboard.
And we work with them hand in hand on how the bot is built out.
And we we are building it up from the time.
Once you sign that agreement, let me make this clear, is so if someone sends in their funds.
So from the time they sent their funds in to the time they signed the contract, that is the point where they
have the opportunity asked for a refund once they review the contract after they sign the contract, there's no
refund because it's a customized thought from there because the team just goes 90 to nothing to start working
because it behooves us, as you remember, the way we've set this up to build out the bot and to get people on the
ground running with everything that they've got now as the bot is being built up and the set files, the new
set files and the new algorithm is being installed, then another team of ours is actually passing the prop
challenge. So once it's passed, then the prop challenge, the very last step is to put the prop challenges, the
props parameters in the bot, and then we hook it up on the server, which is owned by the company, but is technically
considered a lease. This is a lifetime lease of the bot to then run and we get it all set up.
And then from the back end, on the actual prop firms dashboard, you can see every single trade that is being
made. And you can also do that during the challenge as well to keep everything updated or so you can see that, hey,
there is progress being made here. There is, they're doing exactly what they said they're doing. So that is how the
process without diving into the IP side of it. That is how the process works.
Okay, and I was wondering, can I sort of rent out the bot? Can I, you know, use it with my family, can I pool it
into a syndicate, that type of thing? Or can I sell it as well?
So the challenge with we've had this question come up before, whereas if you can sell it or you can lease it out. Now,
something for everyone to keep in mind is that whenever you sign up with a prop firm, they KYC the person, because
they, they want to make sure and identify it's a true KYC, meaning they ask for your driver's license, front and
back. And you know, like a, like Plaid does, they do a, it's an automated system most of the time where they do a
snapshot of you a biometric scan of your face on your computer screen or your phone, that kind of stuff. So it is there
to identify to make sure that there's no politically exposed people, all the fun stuff that goes with that. So I say
that to say it is each bot is set to a particular person. That's why we have it limited to six pins per wallet address. Now
there is a way that we have had someone that is coming in to do a lot more than six. And that's a custom order where we
work with hand in hand with them. And we discuss how they can maximize this. We've had people that are closer to wave two
that are ordering around 50 pins. So pins, pin is what we call a bot. It's a placement identification number that is on
the contract. And so 50 bots, and so they are using it for, but that means that they would have to stack up across their
family. And they would also have to be able to truly, they would have to, we'd have to sit down with them and talk with them
once they got up to 50, because you can do that. But it would take some strategy behind that. And we would be a lot more in
depth, zoom calls on how to make that work.
I see Nick and being decentralized trading bot, I was wondering, you can't be anonymous then you have to do that KYC.
Right, right. Yeah. And it's on the prop firm side. It's not on our side. So then the prop firm sends the funds directly to the smart
Okay. Yeah. But is that sort of a US based or are you global as well? Or will there be other rules and regulations in different
countries where you maybe could do it anonymously?
Right. So some of the, I've heard there are prop firms out there that do not require KYC. And, but the actual prop firms that we work
with, because typically when you do see prop firms that are requiring no KYC, that's kind of a red flag, because that means
they can go in and they're not to some point registered or regulated. And we like to look, we like to look for prop firms that
have been vetted by our expert trader advisors that are out there, other communities of expert trader advisors. And then also that
we have used in back testing. We've, like I said, these, these prop firms that we've used, we have consistently received payouts
from, and we continue to receive payouts and work with them. We know how each one works, what their requirements are. And when
there's a customer service issue, we go through that. You don't see that typically with a prop firm that doesn't require a KYC. So
that is one of those, I don't really, I've never heard of them actually calling on a person to, for any other purpose, besides their
initial signup. And I haven't even heard of that.
Okay, fair enough, Nick. And with a target monthly gain of one to 5%, what the projected annual return is for an investor. And could you
sort of provide any success stories or performance metrics from current pulse boxing operation?
Absolutely. So if you go to the website on the, the pulse defy.ai, there's a telegram link. If you scroll all the way up, we have several
payouts that you show there from different prop firms. And so that actually shows you that that's like the, I'm a Southerner. So we call it
proof from the pudding, or just physical proof of it has been there. So what you're going to see is starting next week, they're going to start
being payouts into the contract and to where people are and you can, anyone can read the contract, the smart contract if they'd like. But we're
also installing webhooks into the contract as we speak, so that it'll be pushed out directly to the telegram channel for everyone to see like, hey, this
deposit hit, this deposit hit, this deposit hit. And that's the only reason that we're doing that is one for, for full transparency, but also to
let the pin holders or the pulse bot owners know when something has hit the contract, so they can go and then pull out the rewards.
Got you Nick, the answer UK saying as well, proof is in the pudding. But what are the risks associated with investing in a pulse trading bond? How does the
pulse defy mitigate these risks?
Absolutely. So we, we are very, we do like to make sure that everyone understands that I've had this question asked numerous times, you know, do you think this is a safe
investment? Do you think that, you know, I should heal up my house and pour everything in and in it? And I'm just like, I would not recommend
helocking a house under any circumstances. You know, we, we get really interesting questions sometimes, but what I would say is by comparison, you're looking at a
one-time purchase. And when you look at a one-time purchase that, and we have been running and the payouts have been coming in to the beta tester users since October of
2023, and continuing to run through, we haven't run into hiccups with the algorithm and our any of our updates. So you have a set purchase amount, and you're receiving on average, because
remember, the way we mitigate risk. So if your account goes into drawdown, just hypothetically, for some reason, let's say drawdown for what people don't know is maybe it, you know, there's some losses that
haven't been realized yet, or that there's trades that are outstanding, or just in fact, there have been some losses, and it goes under that mark where there's no profit on your account. We don't have that
often. But what you have to understand is the way this is set up, all the profits from every single pull spot goes is paid into the contract. So from there, it is distributed out among the pin
holders. So this is set up to mitigate risk. So even if hypothetically, hypothetically, a bot was, was blown or blew an account, something, one of those really, I'm going to use the word wonky days in the market, which we've had those, but we've never blown an
account or bots haven't. Even if that happened to a one person's account was blown, they would still be receiving a payout because they're a pin holder. It's the beauty of web3 and decentralization mixed together. And we're hybridizing something here to where it's paying these firms are paying out into a smart contract. So even if they one person's account, they were like they were had to get go through the whole process again. And again, if an account blows,
the person isn't, it's not, they're not charged for another whole nother bot, all they have to do is just pay for another prop firm. And so what that does, all these funds are pouring into the smart contract, it's divided among the pin holders. So if that person's prop firm goes down, they're still getting a payout because it's all going into the smart contract. And if that's how we're mitigating risk across the board. So we have, everyone has a unique algorithm, it keeps the prop firm safe, it keeps
everyone safe, each pin holder safe. We have, they run on different pairs. So say there's, you know, USD to the Great British pound does horrible one day. Okay, that's fine. We've got all these other pairs, all the and also running an indices, we're going across the board and spreading it out. And then we're mitigating risk by spreading out even further by each pin holder is receiving it's, it is getting paid out by
being on the contract itself. So we have, as far as we can tell, we are doing everything that we are able to think of, we have oversight to where that whenever, whenever the session closes, the bots are turned off, the terminals are turned off. So it can't take any trades, it can't hold any trades outside of that a lot of timeframe. And we're not only that, but we're sitting there, we've gone to the extent where, like I said, if a
challenge fails, which has not ever failed yet, out of all the pin holders, but if it fails, we will pay for the next challenge. So we are mitigating the risk, very, very keeping it to, in our opinion, we're, we're, since it's a one off purchase, and you're not continually pumping in money, like, like you would typically in a brokerage account or something. And you're using other people's money to make money, meaning you've got a 2%
on average, bought 2% per month, trading on a $200,000 account, which then generates, say, give or take like $1,600 after the split with the profit, the prop firms, and the subscription fee, you're, so you multiply that, or you divide that by 1,600 divided by, what is that, 5,000, and you're coming somewhere right around the 30 to 40% range, multiply that by 12, that's your return on investment.
But the bots only making 1% to 2% a month, a very conservative bot. And so that's how we mitigate risk.
Can you mention the software subscription fees, 20%? How's that allocated? How much goes towards like maintenance, server costs, royalties and bot enhancements?
Yes, absolutely. So each bot has its own server. And so it's spread out across between the original designer of this is rolled fees, go to that individual, as well as then the team is paid out for continued development of the bot. So that's how we keep on track with everything it pays for, if you think about even at 100 servers, even our profitability on the back end is, it's not as high
as most people would think. And because we're not in this for a, hey, huge profit thing, we're in this for an equitable exchange where everyone wins together. And so as it grows, we're, we are making sure that it's staying scaled properly.
So it's spread out to answer the question, it's spread out between the cost of the servers, the cost of the, the employees that are have oversight of the make sure the servers are updated, the bot is maintained, that when you look at it, it, that the new algorithms are installed on the correct time that there's no trades held over the weekend, everything is staying within the functionality of how it's designed.
Because remember, it is a bot, it's a computer, it, you know, going back to the 1990s framework, sometimes you have to unplug it from the wall and plug it back in to make sure that everything boots up correctly.
I mean, we still have to do that on web three projects that my team is designing. And so is the old fashioned unplug it from the wall and plug it back in to make sure it works right. But that is how it's allocated.
Okay, and how does the pulse ensure the security and privacy of its bots and their trading structures?
So, privacy and security. Okay, I think I understand the question. And so correct me if I'm wrong. Each bot is held on its own server. And the IP and the security of it, no one has access to the bot itself.
Except for the team running it. That's why we it's, we had our legal team draft up and create the terms of sale, or the terms of the lease and the subscription agreement. And the reason we do that is because
we initially found out in our beta testing and everything else that some people would like to go in and try to tweak the bot or to make it better. And then they would end up
this was way before our this beta testing, like the beta testing where we tried different strategies, like selling the bot and doing things like that. It would be where people would try to tweak it on their own.
And then it would blow their account or but this way we keep everything where it's proprietary in house, how the bot is built. And so, and we also keep the algorithm safe. So where someone can't adjust it or do something that could be detrimental.
Because like I said, we're, we know how these prop firms work. And we we do our research. And we also reach out to trading strategies.
Excuse me, trading strategies from other traders that use these prop firms. And so we we stay very much in the know on what is going on in the prop trading world and in the construction and advancements of AI and bot technology as well.
Cut your neck. And how does plus DeFi plan to adapt to changes in the regulatory environment surrounding DeFi and cryptocurrency trading?
That's a good question. So there will always be
And I would probably count that as possibly, to be honest,
a potential risk that we have, I think we've outlined it in the on the website itself as regulatory changes. Because
you know, tomorrow the US could come in and say, hey, we're not going to allow crypto whatsoever. I mean, that's just that is part of the space that we're in.
And the way we abide by it is none of this is done manually. We do not, there's no custody of funds. There is everything is done on the autonomous contract.
sent across the boss themselves are autonomous. So we are a software service provider. And that is how we stay within the regulatory guidelines as we've done our legal research and our legal team look at this as well.
That we are not breaching by the way we design this, we're not breaching any regulatory laws or any regulatory guidelines. Now with that said,
the changes in a government structure or their legal structure, if they allow prop firms, they don't allow prop firms. That is something that we
think that prop firms have been around for about 20 years, at least, and used by institutions all over the world. Now,
it is possible the government can come in and say we're not going to allow prop firms whatsoever. That is, but that's something that
the way we have it designed as a price structure point to where you have ROI on your initial purchase within based on the figures on the white paper
within about three to four months.
Got you Nick. And what the long term growth plans for the Pulse DeFi, are there any upcoming features or partnerships?
That's a great question, too. You know, we I had this, I had an AMA that that for the other day, about two weeks ago now, that started at 5pm and ended up at we finished up at 3am the following morning.
It was a it was an excellent, excellent AMA. Love the guy to death. He's just super spectacular guy. But we we discussed this as well. One of the things that we have had people start approaching us about is
is missionaries, missionaries that and people that don't necessarily have the time to sit down and really dive into trading. And nor do they want to, but they would like to buy a piece of technology that is conservative because that's how the bot was designed. But because of the business structure, they are able to
really get a excellent return on their initial investment. And we have thought of, like I said, we've thought of every single strategy that we could and we're still continuing to grow, continuing to improve on how this works. But you have, we're looking at
We're actually looking at a beta test about a year down the road for a school for teachers to where they can supplement school can supplement their
Their salary structure and different things like that. And then we're also we've had some communities reach out to us in the DeFi space to see if they can implement it in their back end for their to
Kind of give a stabilization for their protocols. So we have lots of different features coming out. We're also, we have several things in the back end that we're, we're kind of
I wouldn't call it cooking up because that kind of has a wrong connotation to it, but in the pre standing pre planning stages.
Investigative stages of that something that's really truly exciting and including one of the other companies that I
I run with and I run as is a neural network.
AI bots, where it's like this one is a knowledge based AI bot, but the one that we're looking at and we're not looking at the one that we are building out
Is I don't know if I mentioned this, but, you know, have a, I have a dev team that that I work with truly phenomenal genius guys.
Beyond these are outside of my, my engineering team, but a neural networks that complements the bot itself to help make that pulls real time data to then continue to make trades on that is more unique and have itself like if
any of you know, excuse me, chat GPT, chat GPT would be like a neural network type of
bot. And so these bots that we're developing down the road, like who for this year is where it splits off into like multiple personalities. I know that sounds weird, but each one would be a sign like
the current news that just come out that one watches the stock market, one watches the Forex market, one watches
a weather patterns in a certain area, whether and then they all come back together and make a consensus or there's comes a consensus where a decision has to be made on a trade and this is all a nanoseconds. And so that is our long term scope. And we've another company of mine is building that out with this, the pulse. I mean, we have got some truly great things coming down the pipe.
Awesome, Nick. And we haven't sort of delved into what type of trading bot you're building. I like to do its v3 uniswap liquidity pools could have sort of a trading bot bill that would show me the profitable ones on a on a daily and sort of weekly basis to make a passive income that way.
Say that one more time, you just say that building bots out on like uniswap and everything. Is that what you said?
Yeah, uniswap's got like v3 pools, so you can concentrate liquidity around certain price ranges. And I was wondering if AI trading bots can be used for, you know, passive income in that way.
So right now, the only thing that our bots trade on is Forex, which is a $6 trillion a day market and then also on indices. So like stocks, tech stocks and stuff.
Okay, are you looking to expand into crypto as well in the future?
Yes, we are. Yeah, we are looking into that. And the trick with what we're finding is we do have some liquidity pools that will allow us to use these types of bots on crypto.
And we are very gently diving into that space. Let's put it that way because we are making sure that our beta team on that side as we're diving down that we really do our research and to make sure that it is because that's the thing.
In the past, you can tell just crypto trading bots, they come and go very quickly. And the crypto space is slightly different than the Forex and indices.
Forex and indices have been around a lot longer in the crypto space, but we're wanting to make sure that as we roll out new products like bots that are trading on crypto, specifically, we are looking at one for
Bitcoin, specifically, is what we're looking at. We want to make sure that it's ready when it comes out. And so that is on the projections. You are correct. But we also, like I said, we don't want to prematurely roll something out that would be counterproductive to the long-term mission of the pulse.
Got you, Nick. And yeah, but it's quite a bit about crypto, but not about stocks and shares. There are like educational resources available for new investors who are interested in algorithmic trading, but may not have the technical background.
That's a good question. So let's see, places I could go to. There's several groups. I would primarily I would look for communities that that's where you're going to learn about trading algorithms.
If you look up Shiny Jackal, that's his handle. He does a lot of bot programming, very just a just a genius guy. I've been through his course before.
And if anyone really wants to know additional information on resources to go to for to look up.
How to construct bots and how they are made. Feel free to reach out to me. You can directly if you look on the website for the pulse.
You have our email as well as there's a county link that you can set up.
Oh, I think you could sound there, Nick.
I'm not sure if you can actually drop there.
Not sure if it's just me or can anyone else here, Nick?
I don't think you can get through that, Nick. I don't know if you want wanted to try to reconnect and I'll do as a speaker again.
Just give us a second here while Nick tries to reconnect.
Okay, I've sent over a co host to Nick. It might work better that way.
You just need to accept the co host Nick.
No, I think Nick's dropped again.
Okay, let's just wait a second for Nick to come back into the space and invite to speak or does a co host been sent as well.
Sorry about the technical difficulties here.
I've sent another co host.
Oh, we're getting a connection.
Fingers crossed. Oh, yeah, we got you.
I think there's some sort of bug there. No one could hear you probably for about 30 seconds.
Don't know if you want to finish up with the last question or move on.
Yeah, yeah, you're good. What were we talking about? I was my apologies on that.
I'm forgetting that now educational resources for new investors are interested in algorithmic trading, but may not have had technical background.
Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. So I believe like I said, shiny Jackal is a that's his handle. Just an excellent, excellent resource for bot construction and understanding bots in depth.
And if there's anyone that beyond that I can if there's anyone that would like some resources on bots, feel free to reach out to me directly.
I can point you in the right direction because it is very technical when you get into the space on how they're constructed and how
you want to have a good community to help you and surround you on on this particular topic because it's very much
kind of a niche or a speciality.
Got you Nick. And yeah, on that sort of note, how does Paul's DeFi involve the community in the development and improvement at the trading bots?
And that's a great question. So are if you'll notice our telegram chat, we have it set to where it's a news channel only.
Now we we initially discussed having it open like on Discord and different things like that.
But we have never actually found a good use case for telegram chat in the crypto space or in the DeFi space.
It's invariably people like to push their opinions into some things which either they don't know about or they don't understand the situation and just kind of starts a wildfire.
So what we did instead was to keep everyone in the in the mindset of like, hey, I'm paying for a bot and it is designed to run on its own.
The community itself can will be there. We do have it set for like private community meetings down the road that is on a roadmap.
But right now it's for news channel telegram chat. But then also we have it to where every Thursday evening for the for the time being, there are
AMAs that you can go on for lack of a better word. I put the link in the telegram channels of mine that of all the different platforms that are run where people can just hop in and ask me questions.
And this is central standard time. Keep in mind. But also, I have a county link there to where, like I said, you can if you have an issue or if you if you have a suggestion, please tell me I am all for that.
We like I was kind of leading into earlier. We have a gentleman that is one of the early pin holders. Super brilliant guy is out of Dubai.
And so he was had some questions. So what I did is he gave me his phone number and I just picked up the phone and called him.
So it'd be like 4 a.m. My time before I had any espresso before I did my cold plunge a little groggy and half asleep stumbling around.
But I picked up the phone and called him and we talked for about 15 to 30 minutes and he gave me his suggestions.
And they were great suggestions. Tell you the truth on how to streamline things software for like because he is a software developer, like I said.
But we implemented a lot of his recommendations and what people now see as the pulse defy and our back end and our structure.
So we are very much I'm very inclined to meet people and to talk to them and hear their ideas on improvement and how we can collaborate together.
So let's open it up to the audience. I'm sure they might have some ideas and suggestions around pulse defy. Let's see. We've got Asia here.
You had a question for Nick. Go ahead. Yeah. Thanks, Ken. I have a few questions.
OK, is there a tiered pricing structure for the pulse trading boards and their customization allowing users to choose specific features at lower costs instead of committing to the full five thousand USDC investment for all functionalities up front?
No, they're sort of for OK, let me repeat. I think what I understand you ask if there's a tiered pricing structure. There is not because our margins are so slim on the front to build these out that the bulk of the funds up front are actually spent out on building the bot itself.
And so that's the reason why there is no we've streamlined it down as much as possible because if you saw or you can just Google up prop bots and I think it'll pull up several competitors.
But the two the one next up is right around twenty thousand dollars. And the one beyond that is fifty thousand dollars. You can tell the profit margin difference between them right there.
I wish we could do we've had this question. This is not the first time the question is kind of I wish we could do it that way, but we're not able to under our current structure of how the cost it has for us to the outset cost for us to build it out to be able to accommodate a tiered pricing plan like that.
But it's an excellent question.
All right. It makes sense. OK, I'm curious about the unique features that set up sports apart from other Forex boards in the market, such as Forex PewDie, Forex PPS and Golden Pickaxe.
Can you highlight the distinctive aspects or advantages that make both boards stand out in comparison to these alternatives?
It's a great question again. So I would say our primary our primary distinctive feature is that these bots are conservative and that they stay with.
We're able to program them to stay within a prop firm's restrictive guidelines because a lot of the other bots that like I said, this was not the first type of bot that we tried to work out with prop firms.
And this was the one of our own creation on how it worked. But all of the other bots that we ran on our on our testing, they inevitably failed because they would go outside of the restrictive guidelines of the prop firms themselves.
So the actual conservative nature of this bot and how it takes just small slices or slices, I'm using that as an easy term to understand, but very small trades in coming in.
So it stays consistent. But at the same time, it's we have the algorithms set up to be very diversified. So we have a set of parameters that we stay within.
But at the same time, it is a very conservative bot. And that's why it runs off of a two hundred thousand dollar account is because you're making one to two percent, sometimes up to five percent on a two hundred thousand dollar account.
So I would say our most distinctive feature is the consistency and the conservative nature of the bot.
Awesome. Okay. Last thing for me. I want to know about the specific sources or oracles from a sports market data for analysis and trading decisions.
Additionally, could you elaborate on the measures in place to ensure the integrity of this data, maintaining accuracy and reliability in the decision making process?
Can you say it again? I can't hear it very well. It broke up.
Sure, I can repeat. I'm interested in learning about the specific sources or oracles from which false bots retrieve market data for analysis and trading decisions.
Furthermore, could you elaborate on the measures in place to ensure the integrity of this data, maintaining accuracy and reliability in the decision making process?
Right. And that's again a very good question. Most of that on when we start to elaborate because we have found that in the past when we went down this path on how to elaborate on those specific techniques is then people started to try to mimic or copy our bot.
So when you're a pin holder, you'll be able to see everything. But right now, that would be classified as IP or intellectual property is what I have been told to say. Let's put it that way.
Thank you. Thank you so much for answering.
Absolutely. Thank you so much.
Thanks for the question. Next, we've got Rama. We've got a question for Nick. Go ahead.
Yeah, thank you, Glenn. Okay. I was wondering about the target audience for the false bots. Are they specifically designed for the experience for extruders or they can also be customized to suit the needs for the inexperienced traders?
Great question. So the pulse bot is actually designed to because it is it's not an indicator. It's not meaning an indicator for those who are needed to know the distinction indicator is basically high overview is what it tells a trader when to take a trade.
It like picks up a specific it sees something in the market and it takes it or it tells a trader to execute a trade or to sell. This is not one of those. This is an autonomous bot that it runs on its own on the server.
So it is built out to be used for we have a lot of people that really don't know anything about trading and they are using it as well to supplement or to add to their income.
Want to answer your question, Rama? Yeah, he answered our thought. Maybe he's got out.
Can you hear me? Yeah, yeah, we can hear you from here. Okay, moving to my next question. Okay, can you provide insights into the boss historical test performance and has this performance done?
Has this performance been verified by the platform such as my FX book because I have seen some forex boards claiming that their bought trading is verified through my FX book platform.
Right, so we cannot use well, that's not technically true. We can use my FX book, but each time you do that. So with prop firms.
Each time you use an account, which so to have an understanding of why we don't use my FX book is because it is all 100% visible on each pin holders dashboard.
Now, the broker or not the broker, the problem will issue you credentials every time you request a payout. So it continues to change out.
And so the my FX book, it wouldn't be it wouldn't be a good use case for my FX book, because whenever it starts from the beginning to your next to your 21 days when you're able to take your profit, that account closes and they send you new credentials because typically
the prop firms go to it from a 50 50 split to a 70 30 split meaning you take home 70 they take home 30 then the prop firms go to a biweekly payout. This is just typical or, you know, on average, not everyone's like this, then it goes to an 80 20 split with the pro
firms, meaning you take home 80 they take home 20. So each one of these phases is actually a whole different new account because it calculates the the commission structure or whatever you want to call it with a prop firm differently.
That's why we don't keep a my FX books and that capacity.
Yeah, it makes sense. Okay, you mentioned that each pulse port runs on a virtual private servers. So I was wondering, do your VPS are hosted on third party cloud providers like AWS and Google, and what my ears are taken to ensure the minimum latency for the users trading around all around the world.
Right. So a good question. Also, we have, we actually went through quite a bit of during a beta testing, quite a bit of different VPS is so you are right. We have a contract with a company that is currently that we have tested out thoroughly on the back end with the beta test users,
and we went through four different server companies before we found the one that really worked well, and we didn't have any latency issues with them. So we make sure that let's put it this way.
The the beta test users, we every flaw that we found with them, we made sure that we corrected it for before we actually launched. But yes, you are correct. We have a contract with the company that keeps our servers safe.
And that they also do maintenance on their end as well, not to mention that we have to do maintenance on ourselves. But we do have a third party that we use, such as you mentioned Amazon, but you, we do have that party. Yes.
Awesome. Awesome. Thank you so much for your time. It's been really nice talking to you over to you.
Yes, pleasure talking to you as well. Thank you.
Thanks for your question. Next we've got Captain Levi. You got a question for Nick? Go ahead.
Are you there, Captain Levi?
Yes, I couldn't hear him speak. I just have a couple of questions. Sure. Let's have a couple of questions regarding the transparency and the rewards system. I wanted asking, it's kind of, can you guys hear me? Hello.
I'm here. Yes, I can hear you.
Hello. Are you there, Captain?
Maybe come back to Captain. Let's see. We've got Venice. You had a question for Nick. Go ahead.
Yeah, Glenn. Thank you so much. Okay, I have been listening and I must say it has been a great presentation.
Okay. Yeah, I read that you guys offer algorithmic trading parts with a lifetime reason. You have been discussing about the lifetime lease.
So considering the potential for changing market dynamics or individual preferences, I want to know that is there any plan to introduce a market place where users can sell their trading parts to others if they no longer wish to utilize them?
I mean, are there provisions for users to deactivate their pins and potentially receive a percentage of the initial feedback if they decide to discontinue their participation?
Right. So great question. We have had that question come up before.
The challenge with trying to resell a bot is the fact that not only does that particular prop firm, your KYC, but your pin or your placement identification number is tied directly to a wallet address on the blockchain.
So when you purchase it, it is set for a direct to you. But then also, if you tried to sell it, somehow you would have to transfer ownership of the prop firm to a different one person.
So I'm not sure how anyone would be able to do that. That would come to the caveat right there. But also that wallet address, I guess you could hand over the private keys to someone to be able to do that.
But again, that's opening up a different, I guess we would call it a can of worms, meaning it would just be really challenging to do that.
Okay. And I think you guys emphasize the importance of diversification in crypto portfolios. So can you elaborate on the mechanisms in place to facilitate diversification within the ecosystem, such as cross strategy optimization or multi asset trading capabilities?
So say that last part again on the diversification. I'm sorry, it broke up there, Ami.
Yeah, I was saying that diversification within your ecosystem, such as cross strategy optimization or multi asset trading capabilities.
So I think I'm understanding a question for what you're saying is every bot, we have a unique album, but at the same time, they run on different pairs for the most part.
I mean, again, you're getting different algorithms when you get up to a certain amount of bots that are running, you know, they're going to be running on the same pairs because there's only so many pairings out there on the Forex market and on the indices.
So, but like you said, like we said, there do have unique algorithms to where they are run. The bots are themselves unique, which then is diversification.
Something that I do need to mention, too, you mentioned on maybe it was you or someone that was right before this was about amplification of rewards.
Now, the bot itself generates awards and it comes into the contract.
What I need to clarify here is we in our ecosystem, since we're talking about diversification, there is a we have a unique token that is called it is what is known as a surge token is developed by a programmer named DeFi Mark.
And so these tokens, it is the underlying asset is USDC. So it never it can never devalue.
So right now the in about 10 days and it is appreciated over 2% the token itself.
And so every time there's an exchange taking place in our ecosystem, because our entire ecosystem, not just the pulse runs off this token, but everything from the fund, which rolls out in March to the founders, which rolls out in April, all of these different platforms run off of use this token.
And so each time there is someone exchanges that out for USDC to offer, which you can directly offer it to your bank on our site, then it increases the value.
It takes a 1% and puts it on top of the the next. It's called the Nexus token puts it on top of the Nexus token.
So if you're looking at this, we have people that have literally bought six pins or six pulse bots to get paid out and Nexus token.
So from then it's just he was like this gentleman was like, you know, I'm going to buy six pulse bots because all it does is print this appreciating stable token or stable coin.
And he's like, I don't need the money right now. I'm going to have it just build up.
And then as the entire ecosystem keeps using this token back and forth, back and forth.
He's like, so he's like, Nick, say I made a sixteen hundred dollars in one setting.
He's like, then this is basically like an extra retirement account for me because of the way you have it set up.
It's another it's another way we set up risk mitigation is so that every time you go to the site and read all about this token is truly phenomenal.
It's a unique token and meaning it's the only one of its kind on the on the Binance Smart Chain, but it continues to build up.
So as people are you've got say with a hundred pan holders, you got twenty million dollars pouring into the trading power pool pouring into the contract.
It's paying out into into what is known as the Nexus token.
The Nexus token is constantly appreciating.
So say you held on to that token for an extra week.
And, you know, just by the by the math that we have done, you're gaining an extra two percent on top of the amount of the money that you just made off of the Pulsebot trading.
So we are continually diversifying even more beyond that token and beyond the Pulsebots.
OK, that's very impressive. And thank you so much for the detailed answer to my question.
Absolutely. Absolutely. Great question, by the way.
Thanks for the question, Venice. Let's see. We've got Arjun. I'll just bring him up as a speaker.
You had a question, Arjun. Go ahead.
And we've got Captain Levi back. Maybe you had a question.
Go ahead. Yeah, sorry about that.
Yeah. OK, so first off, I'm actually bullish on Pulse.
Love the way you guys fine-tuned make users use to fine-tune their bots.
I just wanted asking a couple of questions still regarding this fine-tuning.
Understanding the fact that it's actually a one-time payment of 5K to create the trading bots.
Will your team be providing any form of assistance in places where, let's say, new users who are not really experienced in building these requests, some form of assistance?
Is that an incentive? Is it a perk?
Yeah, and so let me tell me if I answered this incorrectly, but you're asking about basically support for everyone.
So we have designed, first of all, is that your question? I just want to make sure it happens.
Yes, yes. Providing, would I say, handheld support, so to speak?
Yes. OK, perfect. I was wanting to make sure I understood you 100% correctly on the question asked.
So we are a legitimate company, and like I said, we, I tell my people, under-promise over-deliver.
And if you set the bar, so if you take a picture of just imagining yourself in the mirror and you're looking yourself in the mirror and you're holding your hands up to your chin,
I was like, promise people this right here, but then raise the bar up to here, above your head, and deliver it up to your head.
I was like, under-promise over-deliver. So with that said, yes, we have designed this specifically to where it can be used by anyone.
I mean, in my mind, that's how it is. It's not like people get, when they hear trading, they're just like, oh my gosh, I am so concerned about, you know, about prop firms and, you know,
technical analysis and charts and graphs. And people get really bogged down by that. But this is a bot that we have, we're custom building out.
So this is a, what I call a white glove service where we work with you hand in hand. If you have a question, my team, they work central standard time from nine to five.
But they typically, on average right now, get back to people within about one to three business hours. So, and if it's an emergency, they still see people come in, like, we've answered people within the hour over the weekend.
I can't guarantee that because my team told me to stop telling people that. But if it's something that is pressing and people are needing an answer, my team knows my heart is to make sure that customers are taken care of.
So I hope that answers your question, Captain.
Finally, I wanted asking the integration with Nexus token. I understand that you may have touched on this before, but are there any plans in the near future to make stablecoin withdrawals?
And even if it was not necessarily be just tokens, maybe with additional taxes or fees, you know, to offset any expenses that it may incur regarding gas.
So, yeah, so the great question and we run it on the Binance Smart Chain because typically gas fees are around seven cents per transaction, give or take.
You know, I mean, there's that's an average. But so they're very low fees. That's why we specifically selected the Binance Smart Chain.
And so the Nexus token is we it's a it's a very safe token, meaning when I say that all the Nexus tokens are held on the smart contract.
It's not out there in some liquidity pool, you know, like a pancake swap or something where you can get front run and everything like that.
It is sitting on its own smart contract that is when I say safe, I'm saying by comparison safe.
But all you do is swap right on the on the Nexus Swapper on the site from Nexus to USDC like US coin.
And then you can offer up. We use we have a feature that we are adding in over the next couple of days and you'll see it.
And once you switch to USDC, it'll a pop up window will come up and say, would you like to offer and you click that and it goes through a company called Spritz, truly phenomenal company.
But it will directly offer that if you so choose to your bank account.
And so then then it's not only are you getting paid out and you and to Nexus, which is an appreciating stable coin, which just constantly builds and builds and builds and builds and builds and builds and value.
It cannot go down whatsoever. But then you have the option to directly offer it to your bank straight from the site itself.
So there's no going through like Coinbase or anything like that and making 100 different transactions because of all that gas fees.
It is right there on the site itself for you.
Well, that's that's an interesting update.
I'm glad I have. I just followed you guys with notifications turned on. So I really hope you guys tweet about it when it comes up.
I think it's definitely going to raise your charts a little bit.
Thanks. Thanks a lot for the detailed answers to my questions. I wish you guys the best.
What's your plan? Yeah, thank you.
Unfortunately, we're running out of time, but I don't know if there's anything we didn't touch on today.
Nick, do you want to tell us about on the spaces today or if you've got any closing thoughts?
You know, something I do, I like to close out.
My AMA is this way is that I am very much a relational person.
So that's why I put that on every one of our sites, every one of our platforms.
There is a common link. If you have a question, feel free to reach out to me on that kind of link.
And most people who are in the polls or not most, but I mean, a lot of the people, they have my cell phone number.
It's you know, I'm very available. I'm very transparent. I am very I'm here for the community.
And so not one of those, you know, where you see a lot of these people where they're you never see their face.
You never talk to them. You know, they don't make themselves available.
Quite the opposite. Our job is to make sure that our customers are happy and that we are forward facing in every aspect.
OK, thanks very much, Nick, for coming today. It's been great speaking about the polls, DeFi.
And like Nick says, I usually close out as well.
If anyone's got any questions after the spaces, you know, you can join the socials.
You can message Nick is very available, like he says.
So any questions or if you want to read the white paper or check the website now, the trading box or join the community.
Yeah, do that. And as we say, mobile media is for education and research is not financial advice.
But thank you very much for coming today. Nick.
Yeah, thank you for having me. I really do appreciate it.