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♪ I knew I'm the right girl, man ♪ ♪ Yeah ♪ ♪ She said I was a type of sheep on the beach ♪ ♪ I was a searcher, I'm a thief ♪
♪ And the hearts can be left one ♪ ♪ No more words wrong ♪ ♪ I lose my hope and I just don't know ♪
And I get so excited just from the moon. The trip I was the cute pain in your eyes.
Yo yo, Kelly! Who doesn't love a little Billy Ocean on a Tuesday afternoon?
I absolutely love that song. I mean it's it's such a classic and it's in like I don't know at least a thousand movies. I mean it must be great.
It's interesting it with the royalties. Imagine Billy Ocean is retired after one song. So you need that one here, right? That's right. That's right. How are you doing, Kelly? How's it going?
I'm doing good. I'm working on my third Sunday. I'm thinking about having a third Sunday over here. We decided that yesterday Monday was just Sunday number two. Absolutely. You know, one of my best friends lives down in Mexico and I don't get to see him very often.
But when he does fly up for the weekend or something like that, you know, we just really kind of spin that entire time just reconnecting and goofing and smoking and just talking about life. And so when he leaves, it's hard for me to kind of come back to the real world because it's such a nice relaxing time to have that just to kind of spin with somebody special, you know.
No, I totally get that, you know, especially after two Sundays and, you know, smoking and enjoying the nature, life, the completely. Yeah, you know, you're talking like this makes me feel like I was there. Right. Well, I met, it's funny. I met this guy during COVID, you know, when everybody was
all quarantine and shut down out here in California, we at the time were living full time with our RV. So we had a, it's like a 42 foot fifth wheel camper, you know, this big apparatus that we would take around and in camp. And so during COVID, a lot of the campground shut down. So we kind of had to shelter in place.
So we were stuck at this one campground for like 13 months and we met some really fantastic people while we stayed there in this guy. He's retired Navy, retired board of patrol and he is so gay and so funny and we just instantly bonded man him and my husband loves him as well. And he just kind of took to our whole
family. He doesn't have any children of his own. And he's just retired. He traveled. He kind of just lives his life and does not. Like when he comes, he just like goes to Walmart and buys some $5 shirts for his time here. Like he could not care less about anything. It's so funny. But it's nice when he does come because it should diminute just really unwind and get back
to what's important, which is the basics, you know, just kind of low key everything. Which is hard to find these days. Everyone keeps turning the key up and cranking it up, you know, from first we had emails, we had to contend with back when we had T9 texting, so it wasn't so annoying. Now you have clients who text message you and get upset if you don't respond to
10 minutes. I know. It's wild. It's wild. It's wild. The immediate response that people look for nowadays, you know, so having that time to kind of just, you know, be real, be in the moment and just kind of remember what's important, you know, it's funny because like I said, he's
retired. So he has all this income coming in monthly, but he doesn't care to spend it on anything besides maybe some good food. There's no want to have a new car or fancy things. When he travels, he travels so light. My younger children, my older boys who are younger but older, that makes sense.
They're at the age where they're trying to figure out what's important in life. Do we want the nice card? Do we want the fancy clothes? What really matters? What do we put our hard-earned money towards? He's really a good advocate alongside me for trying to remind these guys that what's really important isn't labels. It isn't about having the name brand everything.
It's about really just making sure you feel fulfilled with what you have because you can put 14 labels on something if you're not totally fulfilled inside that's not going to fill that hole. No, you're so right. You're so right, Kelly. I can't wait to meet in person one day. That'll be a lot of fun just sharing a cocktail and doing a smoke with you.
philosophizing over these things. Absolutely. Absolutely. And we have to say hello to John Carpuzzo legend in the space and we have so much to learn about you today. My friend and obviously I fell a crypto punk. I am a big fan of the purple hat and of course the beard. So how are you doing? How you doing?
I really feel like I want to be with you and do a full week of Sunday, just seven Sundays in a row, all together just chilling and smoking because we're just running like crazy and you're like me dreaming now.
I should just spend one day, one more Sunday this week, maybe tomorrow is the news and day for me. Now I am happy to be with you, really happy and it's a pleasure and you know I'm a proud sheriff also part of the community and happy to be in the salon with you actually.
I love it. It's great. And listen, we have a couple other speakers up here. We should say hi too as well. So I see obviously we have the Web 3 tokenomics, which is I guess, you know, the corporate account, I would say. How are you doing? Is someone back there?
Yeah, I'm here. I'm here. Just quite listening in, you know, like tweeting from three different accounts, doing a few things. So yeah, I'm here. You can call me group to analyst or I'll be good. Nice. Krypto Lanna's love it. Welcome. And then we have a rest rescue.
No, it was something that was happening. Yeah, I just thought there was a space. I got invited in to the to the saloon by Mr. Sosage. So yeah, man. I hope everyone's having a great Tuesday. I'm a graffiti ice from London and I'm glad to be here, man. Stopping by 100%.
Awesome. Well, welcome. Welcome. Glad you're here. John, I have so many questions for you, but I think maybe just start off. I mean, you have two big things that you do. Your co-editor of NFT Morning and also the president of NFT Factory Paris, which one's more fun? What's going on there? To be honest,
I am even more busy because I'm 100% focused on the third project right now that is the non-thongible conference happening in Lisbon Portugal. And so currently, yeah, I'm really expanding the quarter in Lisbon Portugal for this NFT event happening early June 7, 8, 9.
and that is pretty crazy. So yeah, so far, you know, what is really exciting, you know, I like to mix different things and I have to, I like to have different teams walking on different projects. And but you know, at the end of the day, you know, for me it's all the same, you know,
This is the thing for me, just to start quickly with my web street journey to make it simple. I used to have an event company called Hackathon.com, here from.com's organizing tech event.
I'm still now a shareholder, but not really active anymore. And I think it was like, yeah, the beginning of the COVID, actually, that is covered NFTs. I was not really into cryptos to be honest. I was just following and, yeah, organizing some events related to crypto, but that's it.
Yeah, I discovered NFTs and I started collecting art especially at the beginning. When it started booming, I think early 2021, as a lot of people were asking me questions, this is how I started. It was clubhouse at this moment, an NFT morning.
That was a daily clubhouse that we recorded where I was explaining NFTs. It was in France, actually, in French. It unborted a lot of people in the space in the French speaking world. A lot of artists, investors, entrepreneurs.
And we're still doing this every day every morning. We've been producing almost 500 episodes and you know it started to create communities and from that you know as I was from the event world and yeah I just started to
organized meetups and events everywhere in Europe. And so, yeah, I ended up with two main projects. And so, yeah, the first one is the NFT factory Paris. So that is basically a building dedicated to NFTs, a hub dedicated to NFTs.
in the very, very center of Paris, just in front of the contemporary museum, George Pompey do. And so it's pretty big initiative, you know, because I initiated the project and the president, but we are like 130 funders who are a lot of key people, you know, from the
NFT world in Europe, you know, like a sandbox funders, ledger people, so have an author, you know, key project that's been created at this moment. And so, yeah, I initiated this project and in the same time, you know, I really wanted to create an event, you know, for people who knows the NFTs and it was
really the thing and so I launched this project in Lisbon called the Non-Fundable Conference NFC Summit and yeah it was supposed to be a pretty niche event at the beginning you know really for people focused on NFC and it ended up last year as a most important event in Europe and yeah actually this year is going to be even bigger so
transported by a green cart. I imagine you're setting up an event of sorts and you actually have that whole building on prime real estate. Yeah. How did you get that? I mean, that's how did you swing that? It's really, really, you know, it's
It can only happen in this web 3 world. It was just to be honest, I just wanted it. It was the very, very first idea of this building was to let people discover NFTs. At the very first end, the concept
was to be just an area where random people just you know you know just just see your shop gallery and they say oh what it is and then you know they are just on board you then potential you know they can buy their first NFT and so this was really the thing you know I was saying okay you know if you we need to catch people
industry. It was really the idea to do that. And so I talked about it with a good friend of mine called Jean-Michel Payon, he's a former VP at Chief of Staff at Ledger. And so we said, "Okay, let's do that." And so we started to chat with some friends in the WebSri.
and we start to put some money into that and we have seven people, you know, send books from there and the mocha, yeah, different key people, you know, who are there and say, okay, let's do that. And when we start to talk about it, more and more people, you know, want it to be part of it and to be investors and to be in the project. And we say, we won't raise funds, you know#
to do that. We just want to have really only entrepreneurs and only rep-three people into this project. And so we ended up with 130 people. All of them had to invest some money, of course. But moreover, to be relevant
in terms of three education and to be fun guys and fun girls you know because it is a pain you know we need to do an adventure you need to be to do it with cool people and and so and so you know it was totally organic and from the very beginning I told everybody
I have no idea about the business model. I just know that we were raising our phone to get Narea. Narea is pretty central and with potential traffic. And from that, we really figure out. And so, the
I was saying that the more people wanted to invest, you know, it was the bull run also. So this is actually incredible. So I'm looking at your website. First of all, the only suggestion I would say is if you have an English tab, because it's all in French. I'm glad to hear from you. This one I said the
Because yeah, you know a lot of people using these are like yeah in France and the it's easier for them to to sit in French, but I 100% agree with you, but you know to make it simple, you know, I was what is it and how it works? At the end of the day you have one one
floor dedicated to art and to discover the art collectibles collection. And so every two weeks you have a new exhibition and we drop some collections and collab with some artists and you know
So when people go inside, you know what is cool is that we know we have a traffic of 2,000 people each week, you know, going in the area. And so, you know, they just discover and you know, some of them, they are on board it, you know, and we explain them in 30 minutes, you know, what NFTs. And then from that, you know, they can create their work and collect their first NFTs.#
And so this is the first floor of the area. Then we have the second floor and the second floor is more like a membership club. We just issued a membership token with 1000 unities and each owner of this token have access
to the second floor and he can just do some business meeting, get a coffee, walk from there. So it's kind of a so-how model but instead of having a yearly plan you just need to be owner of the token you know to have access to this floor. And then you know you have also the
the underground, so the south slope, where you have like, I would say B2B to make it simple, you know, we do things like training for training and learning expeditions, you know, for corporate who want to learn Web3, and it's part of the business model actually.
That's really neat. I love that Soho House model and kind of that exclusivity that you have. You know, I imagine there's probably a lot of punks who are, you know, members I would think probably enjoy getting together there. On prime real estate, I have to tell you I've been looking at the Google map. I still think you crushed it with a location.
The 11 people you have involved, so it looks like you have a great team here actually too. Like the whole team, I'm surprised you have so many people. No, you know how it is, you know, you have a mix of people, you know, full time and people helping.
So yeah, no, no, it's something that Yeah, it's true that the location is crazy. You know if you know Paris you cannot be more central You know even you know actually took us almost two years to find this location and Because it was it's extremely complex, you know in real estate. It's really complex
the big cities in the world I would say. But it was really complex and so we were really lucky to find this place because it's crazy. I told you you know 2000 people each week just run them near you know just to risk going I don't know in the
museum doing some shopping and ending up in this shop. It's totally crazy for me. So let me ask you something else which I think is really interesting. So you have all of this stuff set up and then what is the actual response from say a person who has, you probably have a lot of
I'd say at least empirical data on people who have no clue what an NFT is. They come on into your NFT factory Paris prime real estate. It looks great and it's professional at professional and then you try to explain to them the digital JPEG, you know, which is the JPEG dilemma because they don't understand exactly what they make
be getting. How do you guys, there's a huge education component to this. How are you feeling with that? In this location, right? They're not just buying the picture on the screen and not right click and saving. Of course, of course. And but you know what is fun? First, you know, the crowd. The crowd coming in this area is extremely
diverse. They are French, they are foreigners because it's a touristy career. Also, they are really like kids because it's an area where kids like to hang, you know, get borders and you know, just also old people going to museums. It's really, really, really
diverse growth, you know, you're all kind of people. And you know, sometimes it's fun because you know, they have no idea about what it is. They go inside, but you know, when you have, you know, we have like, you know, 70 screens and different kind of display, when they go inside,
And they start to see, you know, what it is on screens. For most of the people, it's obvious that it's real. You know, the all the argumentation of the fact that you are buying a stupid JPEG is much more
And this is also all the point for me. Art is kind of the Troy with always thought of, I've been thinking about it.
Roy and horse you know fall the rep three and for the blockchain you know people At the moment you go inside, you know you say oh I like it. I don't like it You know this is just basically that and you know you you have to find something that you like and you start to say oh I like this. Oh, yeah cool to have this in my own
Oh yeah, and so then the start to understand that there are real people you know working on that there are real artists because then you know We have some guy explaining who are the people while other collection what is you know depending on what we are exhibiting and sometimes we're exhibiting also some metaverse soul stuff explaining everything and
Most of the time, you understand that it's real rock, real people, real collector. And so, some of them are interested to come to the next event that's happening to maybe be trained and to maybe collect.
Of course not all of them, but you know, it's pretty fun because sometimes I walk in the area and I listen some you know It was like a two weeks ago was walking and I I see some young people nearby say oh Yeah, yeah, it's an FT. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty cool. You should have look on that You know because they just go there
that discovered and then they were talking with other friends about NFTs, some young people like this. And for me, yeah, I think there are a lot of ways to evangelize. But yeah, in terms of education, when it's physical for people, it's pretty easy to understand.
That makes perfect sense. I think that's to me, I think that's the process. Kelly, what do you think? What do you think about this whole thing? We need one in the United States like this. Absolutely. It's fantastic being able to bring people together. I see that they're utilizing this location for
lot of different ideas and services. It looks like others can come in and kind of utilize this space as well and set up events and things. And I think that's fantastic. There's a need for in-person concept for people to really kind of get
the art side of NFTs, right now people go to galleries and they go to shows and they participate and even the street fairs and things where all the local artists have their stuff. It's such a popular event for so many people to participate in these things when it comes to art activations. So obviously,
bring in the NFTs to life, bring them to galleries, bring them to shows, put them on the wall and show them people that they are more than just a digital JPEG. It really does kind of bring the whole thing full circle so that people can kind of start to understand better the value behind what we are doing out here and how the art is important way more than I
think a lot of people are given credit for, we can't forget all the one-of-ones and all the super-rearers and all the artists out there that are really utilizing this space to showcase their art more so than just being a pump and dump crypto markets. So I think it's fantastic. I love what you've built over there and like
Charles said your location is just phenomenal. So kudos on snagging that one. I've done a lot of in-person retail rentals and leases and things on commercial property. And I know that is not inexpensive and very hard to find good quality space like that. So I'm excited. I think that's definitely
definitely something that I think every major city should look at having. There's reasons to have groups of people go in on events like these and create these kinds of spaces in order for us to really be able to, like here in San Diego alone, there's a pretty big NFT community and if we had something like that here,
for local events people to meet up and do things and if he related it would be a huge hit I know it would and I think it should be something that more cities are adapting and bringing in for this kind of purpose honestly. I agree with you. I think what is cool is you know because all of us would realize that
We have all of us have interest to democratize this is the thing, whatever is your business, whatever is your industry, we know that the more people will be there, the better it is for everybody. And so this is why all these people make it in a genuine way. We're just doing this because we need
to get something that exists and it's through getting the place for the community to do some meetups to host some event. You know, it's make it pretty real and you know in terms of officials, you know, when you have this kind of space, of course, you know, then you know, officials copy
Great government. All of them, you know, they have, you know, it's kind of a step for them, you know, if they want to, yeah, it's make it real. So it's a step for them, you know, to just show that, yeah, there are two innovation. And I think, you know, it helped, for example, in France, to start
convincing the culture ministry of the interest of NFTs, you know, because you know, with the opening, with the location, and so she had to come several times and now you know she's time to be like, you know, it takes time, but she's time, you know, it's part of the, I would say, influence strategy.
You know, I think it's a great educational opportunity. Honestly, you know, we've got a lot of younger kids in school these days that are starting to be introduced to block chain. They've there's class opportunities out there. You can enroll your kids and now just start learning about all of this works, but there's still a lot of adults out there that have no clue, you know, how we're creating all this art and how we're
doing this. And I think just having spaces like this where classes can be held where you can have contracts go live during your class and show people how all of it accumulates on the blockchain and things like that. It is an opportunity to kind of open the concept of blockchain technology up to people in a way where they can see
it and see and touch and feel because for a lot of people out there learning about this process is something that they don't feel comfortable doing on their own online, you know, but when you have a space where you can bring others together that also have the same kind of fear and intimidation of dealing with all this type of stuff, you know, you can have a chance to bring them together and talk in person and go over
things and physically help them click on links and get reassured of their steps. And just imagine if you have classes like this locally every so often, that's another 50-100 people a month, you might be onboarding into this space in a way that's safer and more secure and they feel more self-assured about making transactions.
and trade and buying this art because I think a lot of the higher priced JPEGs out there would be more appreciated by people and of course they would want to own it. We had a guest last week to talk about fractionalizing these down to ownership pieces. And I think a lot of it would be more inclined to want to participate
in the space if they just knew how. So I think that's also just another great way to kind of bring those people together to offer that. It's different. It's like, "Okay, let's have a meetup at the local center or the meetup at the local mall or the star book." You know what I mean? Like, having a central place that's actually a gallery, I think, is a fantastic idea for something like that.
Now, John, let me ask you a question when you were trying, because obviously it took capital to do this, was all, did all the capital come from people who were familiar with the NFT space or
Did it take a lot of convincing of people who may not understand NFTs or perhaps they thought NFTs may be fraudulent, et cetera, et cetera? How did you get together the group to be able to open this?
No, I think you need a lot of energy. I think it's like, you know, friends is like any other country. You have big, you know, a lot of people are
extremely skeptical about the crypto space and especially NFTs and especially in these days now when things are getting a bit down, it's much more easier to say, "You see it just for scammers" and that's it.
So yeah, I think it's the, you know, you need to talk and repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat again, you know, in friends I'm pretty, I would say, I talk a lot, you know, to the
to the press and you know, I'm talking about NFTs on the main TV channel every month and basically you need to repeat things. And I think this is the thing, you know, trying to repeat things. And where I'm pretty optimistic to be honest,
that most of the people understand the potential of the technology. You know, when you start, even when you talk with journalists, when you talk with government, when you talk with people who
who knows a bit about it, they believe in two technologies. Then even the skeptical ones, they believe about technology. Then they say, "Okay, they believe potentially about technology, but most of this market is, I don't know yet,
fraudulent and whatever. So then you know, but if it starts with technology, so they start to understand that, you know, some people use the technology for good things. So, you know, and you need to go basically, you know, something meter, you know, meter after meter, you know, just one step after
one step to bring them. You say, "Okay, so if you accept that some people have good behavior, let me show you." Oh, and then you know they start to understand that there may be more people that what they believe that are creating good things. And you know the more you explain, the more you show
the more they understand and the more they see that the potential is huge and that what is created is much more than what they believe in. But of course it takes time and of course it's not something that happened in a few seconds.
I saw what happened the last two years in Europe. At the end of the day, I was not expecting democratization to go so fast. If you just take at the art level,
The main contemporary art museum, they have their own NFT collection now. We are just in front of them. So they have a crypto-peng and auto-brief in their collection. If you would have told me that like two years ago, I would not have believed this.
I would have said, yeah, of course, you know, I'm a bank owner. Of course, you know, for me, banks will be in every modern art museum, you know, in 10 years or 20 years. But you know, I was not expecting that to happen fast. And so, you know, if you take, you know, how things are, of course,
Of course, we would like it to go faster, but a lot of things happened already in two years. I would say we are kind of in the digestion moment before it's coming again. But things are
For me, going pretty on the good way, even if sometimes when you are a bit in the dark, it's complex to see the light, but it's going in a good way. And so, I'm pretty sure
I'm pretty sure that next year already a lot of new services that are creating currently will democratize a bit more. And so we had a first revolution that happened in the AppMarket.
But next year we'll have revolution in the gaming market, in the fashion market, in the other market, and step by step, market after market, it will happen.
And also a question about the revenue model. So this exists, this beautiful place, NFT, factory, Paris. How are you guys generating revenue and I imagine you will want to be profitable at some time? Is it, I get the tokens and the membership for the, you know,
the private exclusive upstairs area, but is there any other models other than that membership or? Yeah, to be transparent right now, the two main sources of revenue are venue hiring and and art ceiling.
So, for example, there are a lot of companies who want to organize their private event and so they hire the space for, yeah, for like you know, putting all the other stuff. Some artists also who are hiring the screen
for one week private exhibition or not private but to privatize the screens basically so anyone can see because as we have this traffic, we just monetize this traffic by letting some artists or some companies using the screens and let people discover
their exhibition. So it could be semi-private, total private evenings, but you know we just this is the first source of revenue. So, one source is just you know we're doing our all connection and we are setting art and promoting art and so like I would say
a platform because we have our own NFT platform. We take a percentage from this cells. The third source of revenue that is no growing is I would take corporate trainings. You know when a corporate
want to organize an event, you know, because they want to get their executives, you know, discovering NFTs. We're just setting them on boardings so they can, you know, create their first wallet and acquire their first NFT.
So, so far you know these are the three source of new but you know the potential is pretty interesting because I've got this place also we can thinking it as a necosystem. So, you know, so far we have not developed so much you know all the fact that we can sell as a shop you know use a traffic to sell
merge and to sell more goods that has been produced by people from the ecosystem. And so we can distribute more things as we have dislocation. So yeah, we have other tools or tools that are potential, but that we didn't develop so far.
this really cool. I was I was I was pausing because I didn't know if Callie was going to jump and I feel like I've been talking too much. You know what I mean? So I don't be the only one talking here. But I think this is so fascinating. And then you know, I I did think we should talk a little bit about your NFT morning and how that kind of got stuck.
because that's also something that a lot of people you know enjoy following and learning about and it's a totally separate than the NFT factory Paris. Yeah I think it's pretty like it's pretty chill to be honest you know I just I would say daily routine for me is just to onboard it just to
to talk about NFTs every morning. And so, you know, every morning, 9 a.m. Paris time, we just know opening a Twitter space, we have a guest usually, or sometimes we just do a debate about something related to what's happening, but the idea is really
to discover things, to know what's going on in the space, to share updates about news, and to share updates about new projects, and showing entrepreneurs, showing artists
and let them network and be discovered by the community. This is really the idea. It's pretty healthy actually because when you start to do it every day, then it's part of your daily routine.
Yeah, for me it's a good way for me to see the trends and understand and to have, it's pretty refreshing because this space is full of new initiatives every day. You know that it's a good way for me to just see what's happening
And so John tell us when did you pick up your punk? So actually actually it's not my first punk you know I my first script of punk it was I think it was like three years ago
I was really like, you know, from the beginning, you know, the one I discovered, Frank's, for me it was from the beginning one of the most iconic, or the most iconic project. I really was in love with that. I was following the discord. I learned
everything about NFTs from the punk discord to be honest. It was like we are discovered all the key projects and all the key niftia acquired at the beginning it was from the punk discord also and so you know even like discovered art blogs I discovered a lot of all the stuff there and so yeah for me you know they're
It was obvious that it was the beginning and the end. Most of the things that we do are inspired by friends. I want you to get one and I stole them. I stole the prize running from 500 euros. The 500 dollars until 10,000
$1. This is when I acquired my first film actually. I said, "Okay, no, I think I remember it was just early 2021." I saw that it was the moment where things were accelerating about NFTs and I realized that it was no or never. So I acquired two pence at this moment.
and they're okay because then I will never be able to get one anymore. And so I had this once, I have three, it's was three points, then I sold one, and then I've been a bit doing some trading stuff and
To be honest, then I solved one of my crypto pens at the beginning of the Celsius Luna stuff. And I just acquired this one that I used as a PFP a few months later when it was pretty
Yeah, when it was pretty bottom, I would say. So it was a way, you know, I'm not really trading. I'm not a trader. I'm not I'm more holder, but at this moment, you know, I saw that it was the mess. So I saw that it was a moment to set a lot of things before it's going down. And so I I sold a lot of things.
them to USDC and wait a bit to get it back and it was a smart choice also and this one I think I created this point I think it was seeing for 9 small months ago something like this. That's a fantastic looking part man it's just cool.
It's so funny the nerd glasses are so striking you know what that color it's just you know it's very futuristic I love those nerd glasses. Yeah, I love I love not glasses you know my previous prank also had near the glasses you know for me it wasn't one of the tray that's what I would
really wanted to have wasn't those glasses and I don't know you know you have this yeah better style you know you don't know why you know it looks like yeah I like these glasses you know for me they're pretty cool I love it that's a very good pick and listen
I think did we lose our other speaker? Yeah, it looks like crypto analysts stepped down or something. I was looking at his Twitter trying to see what all we were going to chat about. He just posted that this Twitter account is now full-time shit posting Twitter. So I'm not sure what happened.
in there. Oh, I don't know if you left or got booted because with Twitter you never know. To get Twitter just kicks me off and I'm co-hosting and it's hard to come back up. I've got nerd glasses in real life. It's my favorite trade also.
That's awesome. Hey, listen, I also don't want to ignore rescue down there rescue. How you hang it? I'm good, bro. I just looked I was just looking into another app that I just randomly discovered along my Twitter travels, but yeah, I'm good man. How are you?
I'm going to go to Paris this fall and I'm definitely going to stop by. You have to, man. You have to. I think it's pretty cool in the next time you come. It would be happy to see you there. How much of your year do you spend traveling, Charles?
Well, I probably in a Marriott hotel at least 180 days a year. It's a lot of travel. That's a lot of points. It's a lot of points and so every year I treat myself to it'll be the seventh year I think in a road to art box
My Emmy I go there and the you know the GM of the W South Beach knows me because I've just there all the time the points pay for the whole day which I'm grateful for That's my one yearly splurge for all my other paid hotel night so absolutely
We lived in Florida. My husband traveled a lot for the work he did there. We did the same thing. We took the kids to Disney and we'd get a really nice condo for like two weeks off all of our points. It was fantastic. It is really cool. It's really cool. It's nice. It's nice to travel and see
places that are starting to appreciate NFTs obviously from New York to Miami. Miami is huge. Still they really respect it. Obviously Paris is putting it in the museums as well. So everywhere I go if there's a place that has the NFT gallery, I'll try to stop by. A lot of the country is
quite caught up like that but you know I try really hard to make an effort to and I'll always meet a punk wherever I go it's just really cool. They are everywhere yeah. And are you John you're probably part of the punk club too I imagine.
Yeah, I am in the PENSE club. I am, I don't know, to be honest, I am, I am not really active, I would say. But yeah, yeah, I know these guys who are the founders
are pretty nice and I try to help some time but yeah to be honest I'm not helping enough. It's limited time, limited time.
Yeah, I wanted to advise them a bit, but it's complicated. All these things are not related to being an advisor. One hand you really want to do it on the other hand. It's time, it's commitment, it's a lot of things, and I'm already
working on my hand, you know, on really three main important projects. And so then, you know, it's really complicated, you know, to do a fair advice on projects, you know, and to be really there and to be really committed. So this is why, you know, most of the time, you know, I can
to accept, to advise because it's a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot of time and also responsibility too. The last thing you want to do is not have enough time to gather enough data to give appropriate advice and then you don't want people to think you're a real jerk if you give them bad advice or if you're
I mean, it is tricky giving people advice in anything. It's really tricky. Exactly. And you don't want to be a jerk and say, "Oh, I don't want to do it," but then your timeline gets filled up with a bazillion people or your DMs get filled up with a bazillion people. You know who want to have the advice. So what do you do, John? Yeah.
Exactly, exactly. And so, yeah, you know, you know, this is also, you know, something that is great, you know, the space is awesome. And it's what I like, you know, you can work through the different things. But on the other hand, you know, people, you know, maybe because I'm a bit experienced, I would say.
complicated to do a lot of things also in the same time. You know, and it's really like a you need to have a big discipline because otherwise, you know, you're working on a lot of things but you're doing nothing. And so it's a it's really important, you know, to focus and to know, you know, what you are working on every day. Otherwise, you know, yeah, you know,
It's you know, otherwise you're just taking your Twitter. Exactly. You're exactly right. And you know, remember we talked about in the beginning having more Sundays than a week, not less Sundays than a week. So we want to have more like this will be Sunday number two, you know?
Yeah, and it's doing this on Sunday tomorrow. I totally agree with this. So, and I just wanted to I just want to know who decided that we should have a five day work week, two day weekend, like who made that up? Who? What idiot in charge said you know?
Let's work in five days. I don't even understand why that was ever a thing. It should be no less than equal. Minimum. I agree. Maybe it's like this, thanks to AI students. Right. Like, AI do my job.
It's expanding in medicine. It's neat to watch a lot of the AI recognition of both pathology and radiology. And they have a lot of cool features where if you do one of the new colonoscopies, AI will pick up a whole bunch of polyps that otherwise would have been missed.
and then their pre-cancerist polyps. I mean, it's really phenomenal how AI is working with doctors at least. It's really cool. It hasn't done anything for the jewelry business yet. jewelry business is still as old as everything. I mean, so you know, I don't think that I've even
And considered much how else AI is going to affect so many different industries out there in and be an asset, you know, just like you're saying with the medical stuff. I mean, there's a lot that technology can do that a human brain just can't compute fast enough. And that's interesting to think about.
out for sure. Absolutely and I see and by the way if anyone down there wants to come on up and say hello you know this listening please feel free to request we welcome anybody up here see puppets down there another fellow punk legendary punk I like that one
Charles has a thing for punks. I keep hoping that the punks that Eath and punks will take one more nice big dick because if you want to swap around or trade punks it's much easier to do when Eath is low and when the
you may be iron but is out of the appropriate price range at this time. So, when you picked up your gold chain, did you sell your other punk? Yeah, I swapped it out. Yeah, I sold it to
I was waiting for that and I know punk so TC did similar moves as well You know because it was just clear there was blur farming you could take advantage of but yeah, there's a few more I at least another one I'd like to pick up and I got to get one for my wife too, but I'm just waiting for things to hopefully drop a little
Yeah, she deserves one. I can't move you didn't buy her one first She doesn't appreciate it as much as I can. Oh, you know what? Wait, this is a recorded space. Never mind. And you know what? I'm gonna rectify that. This is a recorded space. Never mind. I don't think I deleted. I'm gonna what happened.
They're way to edit these things or you just suck what shows up. You're just stuck with it. Sorry, Cheryl. That's fantastic. So did we want to drop a quick update for the Dell? We had our meeting this past week and only about 20, 30 people were able to make it.
Yeah, you know, we should we should do a real nice update for our DAO. So what we're currently doing is it was nice because we were able to show a little bit of the wireframe progress we've made on the launch pad, which is going to be our primary source of revenue. You know, the whole idea is to be able to become like, you know, an ideal
where you can go out there and help launch tokens, you know, more what you would consider traditional cryptocurrency as well as NFTs and make it very user friendly, make it so that each token page has the tokenomics on it. And that's actually a big advantage over say the usability of a lot of
different sites because you often have to go digging right for just the basic data and to kind of you know aggregate all of that on a launch pad and continue that development. I think we'll make our launch pad much more attractive for people to use. Ease of use is what drove people to the
Apple iPhone and we're seeking to do the same with launch bed which will hopefully be the number one generator, revenue generator. And then on top of that we've been organizing our, I should say trying to organize counselors into functional roles including marketing which is super important and operational
the operations department and get a better handle on our finance cost so that we can better anticipate the burn rate, which is so important. As you know, when you're building a project, you have art needs not only for a PFP project, but also for the marketing of it. And then the website behind it, you need to be able to build a minting page.
the smart contract, all that. And so we're kind of assembling all of that for our pioneers mint, which the primary purpose for that is again to raise more funds to continue to not only build and optimize the launch pad, but then market the launch pad. Because if you have the most amazing product out there,
Or just say a great product, I don't want to exaggerate, but a great product. It's hard for people to use it if they don't know about it. So the marketing is key. So we can't skimp on that. And so, you know, we're kind of working on all of those cost structures and then we can circle back around and try to, you know, make sure that we can appropriately compensate those that there's
a lot of people have been working in this doubt for several months, tens of hours a week, some days 20, 30, 40 hours a week or more, with zero compensation just faith that this will all work out. And that time is extremely valuable. So we want to make sure that we take care of those who have been taking care of basically this whole dream that
we all share together. So we want to make sure that, you know, counselors and people who've been investing a lot of time with no compensation can be compensated because it's the right thing to do and it's what a startup would do. So that's kind of the grand overview, Kelly. I didn't want to just blabber on too long, but I hope that I hope that answers the question for updates.
I think that's fantastic. You know, getting a look at those wire frames this past week was pretty neat. Being able to see it all kind of come together. So we can have a glimpse of what it's going to look like. And then the PFP art sneak peak was fantastic. I think that's really going to tickle a lot of people's fancies when they see this
art come out. You know, it's it's very cowboy, it's very pioneer, it's very current, it's modern, you know, it kind of exemplifies where we're at with this Web 3 front here. You know, the the the space out here is truly still so unexplored. Like we have not even
scratch the surface on what we can do with blockchain technology. And I think people started to realize that the NFT space itself, it's going to fluctuate, it's going to go through its process. It's a community of people and people do crazy things when you bring them all together. But digital collectibles in the long run, they're not going anywhere.
where they're going to be adapted by so many different platforms and so many different ways and utilized to bring value to people, whether it's through gaming, whether it's through identity stuff, whether it's through storage of information, you know, there's so many different use cases out there coming for blockchain technology alone that having a
piece of this process to work with. So we're ready to help folks that want to get out there and explore what they can do out here in the World of Web 3. You know, I think it's super exciting that we get to be a part of the growth and foundation of what that looks like and trying to really cure a to space that makes sense that's practical, that
is profitable and that's safe for people so that they can try to venture into the unknown and really feel like they're being guided while they do that. I'm really excited to be a part of my labs for what they're doing with this platform and knowing the community is growing truly sticks and stones and bones together to kind of just create this out of
of nothing. It's been a wild ride and I know we've got so much more coming down the pipeline. And I think the people that are putting in the work, they realize that it's sweat equity. We had a meeting yesterday about the lore for our PFP project coming up and talking to those guys that want to help build out these stories and tell
know the the tail of what it is we're doing out here with the Dow and and the launch pad and and the pioneer collection itself and just talking about that and you know everybody's excited to be a part of the bricks being laid you know from the start for something so big so I'm excited to know this that missed on the meeting missed out on the
the visuals. So if anybody didn't get it, it's important to see it. It's hard to explain because you don't understand until you and having done project management 11 years ago for software company, they don't understand that every
button has to have a direction this way that way and then if this then that and then how the usability works, it takes, it's an enormous undertaking to be able to make something that's usable and that's floppy, you know. For sure, you know, it's, it's wild because I think a lot of people that have, you know, a non-technical brain, they
just kind of look at things or push the buttons and turn it on. But really when it comes down to building these sites out, we don't have to think about what it looks like. We have to think about how easy to use and navigate. And then to add to all of that, the layers of safety involved to make sure that people connecting their wallets with large amount of money are safe when they do so.
So, you know, all these different things had to be put in place with code and letters and numbers and stuff that makes zero sense to most of us. And it's a long process. It's a lot of, you know, trial and error. It's a lot of trying to figure out what works, what looks nice, what's easy on the eye, what's easy to use, what's
It's not confusing, like what's confusing for some, maybe very unclear to others. There's a lot that goes into building any kind of a developed site these days, but especially when you're trying to add so many different layers of usability for so many different purposes, it's going to take time and it takes money and it's going to take a lot of brain power to really bring that together.
No, you're absolutely right. I think you're absolutely right. And that's something. Oh, I see, uh, I don't know. Who's that wiping person down there?
My whole screen just kind of blanked Kelly. I don't know if that was me getting kicked out or not. But anyway, Twitter. Have you noticed that it's always the second hour like my Twitter gets crazy on me and it kicks me down and brings me back up? It's your sign. It's your sign that
And it's a one hour space. That's it. That's right. That's right. So, but John, I mean, you know, it's been such a pleasure having you up here, honestly. And we're so glad to have you as part of the Dow. I mean, it's just, you know, what you're doing is so ambitious and really fun. And I think that as we're just a few handful of years into this whole
I can only imagine what it's going to be like in 20 years. I mean, a lot of these NFTs are going to be like, and TEEKS remember, furniture 100 years ago wasn't worth much. And then suddenly someone will go back and dig through old NFTs. Hey, you have one of these things? Yeah, it'll be really cool.
You know, and I was at a family I was should say I was at a family dinner over the weekend and I have to tell you I get a lot of ribbing from my family who are like what a crypto puck and what what do you mean that's more than 10 cents and why can't you know if you just it's really hard and of course my
who's old school just kind of looks at things I'm nuts but he's like you could do what he's like sell it sell it I feel you there you know it's funny because my my mid-aged children my
younger older children are the ones that kind of got me into NFTs, you know, my now 29 year old is the one that introduced me to Bitcoin back in 2011. He was 17 at the time and then now my he's going to be 23 in a few days, but he's the one that was all about NFTs.
years back. And he's like, "Mom, no, seriously, mom, check this out, mom." Really. And I was just like, "What the hell are you talking about? What do you mean?" And it was really at first for me to grasp the concept behind it. It was like that's dumb. But then once I actually spent time learning about really not even just the art itself,
but how it works and how this process came to fruition and where it's going, I was all in. And I probably, that's more the technical side of me that sees so far beyond the JPEGs, but the art side of it, and my daughter's an artist, and I tried to convince her I was like, "Look."
in a brand we got to figure out a way to get this art on the blockchain baby because people need to see what you're creating because she's a physical artist you know she doesn't even do anything digital at all and she was like I don't know you know she's still here we are years later she's watching this whole evolution here but she's still just not interested so it's it's
It's neat. It's neat that there's a voice, a platform for folks, for their art to be seen and viewed. And for some, you know, we look at these JPEGs and we're like, oh, they're worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. But you've got artists out there that are able to sell a collection of maybe a thousand for five or ten bucks a piece. And that's English.
That's money. That's them profiting off of their skill and their art. And that's the kind of stuff, honestly, that I'm here for more than a lot of other things. I love seeing the evolution of these artists being able to gain value for what they create in ways that brings them out of the physical world and into the digital space.
where it's appreciated for what it is, which is just art. It's not that they have to sell it to a company to use in their assets or they have to create graphics for this business or that or you know, it's art they create in their own spirit and their own time and they want to share it with the world and it's valued and I love that part of the space.
of everything you just said. I love you. We have in your life but we're going to make it work someday. One day will be there. All right guys. So does anyone else I know
We were gonna talk to a crypto analyst, but he does this dish does and that's okay and you know if if there's stuff people want to talk about we're here for it if not we can close it up No one wants to sit around and hang on a
on a boring space and we don't mean to be boring. I think Kelly and I can just chat about stuff all the time. But I feel like if some people are here, it's nice to make it worth your time, which is very valuable. So, John, what are you thinking?
I think it was great to be with you and I'm really really happy to be part of what you guys are doing. I really feel like I'm also really respectful with all the efforts that has done. I have some updates sometime from people from the team.
from just updating me, showing me, and I'm pretty impressed, but everything you guys are doing and happy to be all that and to be part of it. So, yeah, I'm pretty optimistic, but everything happening now, it's tough job, it's complicated, it's a entrepreneurial project, it's a lot of things
But yeah, you know, it's really on the good way. So yeah, congratulations. Thank you for that, John. You know, it's really been, it's been wild to be a part of this so far because ordinarily, you know, personally, I'm either involved with one type of project or another, you know, I'm either in
involved with an NFP project or something completely away from Web 3 entirely. So to be involved with something that's so much more than just a PFP collection, something that's actually creating something so much bigger that has these other assets that are a part of
it's so different because we're launching this PFP collection this summer and that in itself is an undertaking for any project out there. But it's literally just one small area of the entire development taking place here. So seeing that bigger picture is just wild because we are building out here like tall buildings.
buildings. No bungalows. No bungalows, Cali. No bungalows. And I do want to say something. I think it's so interesting to me because and it kind of speaks to the youth of the generation in this market. You know, we're in a bear market and people say you're building in the bear.
Well, that's the best time and that's when most people can acquire a lot of wealth. For instance, when commercial real estate's down, you buy the piece of land, you build your restaurant and you get capital appreciation and then you get more business as you grow. But, you know, it's expensive to buy at the top, you know, so you want
to be building during a bear market. It just makes the acquisition of assets and talent that you need to function a lot more affordable. If you're buying everything at the peak, it's just hard to run a business and grow it from there. Oh, you are speaking the truth and it is. It's so true. I've been out here as a marketer
a product manager for years in this space now and I've sat and paid exorbitant amount of money for things that we needed when projects were building, you know, when they want services from other people or they need assets, you know, people can charge whatever they want when the money's flying. But whenever things are tight and it's a little bit more, you know,
It's a lot easier to attain the higher quality things you're looking for from people that are needing to obviously work in the space at the same time and it really does feel good to come together and be able to offer them what they need while they can bring us what we need and it's much more relatable.
in a market like this to build these things and to feel like you're clawing for the assets others are also seeking when things are busy. So no better time than to learn and I feel like every minute not spent in this space profitable is a minute that I'm learning and paying for an education with my time because this space is still so undeveloped.
that it really is a true education on how all of it works. I get people in my inbox that want to bring me on for jobs or roles and stuff and they introduce me to what they're doing and it's literally an opportunity every time that happens for me to learn about something else being built in Web 3 or blockchain or all of this and I'm like wow, I didn't know this was even going on and I love it, I love every minute of it.#
There we go. It's 420. That's great. So standard support 20. Let's go. That's right. Get us to 420. Yeah. So listen, anyone else down there want to say hi or jump on up or
anything and you know John you have any plans to come to the United States at all because I'd like to be hanging out. I'd love to meet you in person. Yeah of course. I usually come but yeah next time I don't know yeah I'm pretty now
I guess next time it's going to be this summer or after. I'm pretty focused on this event in Lisbon Portugal. You should come by the way. I think it's pretty exciting. We have more than 5,000 people joining this event.
It's pretty crazy, actually, and a lot of people who know the lefties, the one who remains, I would say, but that's tick, it's really like, I like evens because a lot of people are.
you know criticizing what is NFT and YC for example is doing and I understand that you know when we created this event in Lisbon the idea was to do an event for people who care and this is why you know we bring we know all the key artists all the key collectors a lot of
people like yeah Cosmode, MEDC, PEN65, 29 and like a lot of yeah, emblematic people and create something you know that is pretty unique you know it's an event where you have no panels it's only expert but experiences you have no
So, you know, every room is different, every talk is interactive. It was something really pretty experimental, you know, that is make it, you know, successful. So the last edition happened last year and it was really, it was supposed to be an issue and then it was something huge. And I believe, yeah, you know, now it's
pretty crazy though. So I'm walking like crazy because we have a team of 25 people walking a stadium that and so I'm here to support them and that's pretty crazy. If you have the chance to come, I think it's going to be nice. It's two days off
event in one day of Beach Party actually. Ok I got it you said Beach Party ok I like it. So I love it I love it. Hey Buffett welcome another fellow punk. Yo how you doing? GMGM.
I'm just getting back to my home. I had a match at the football match so I'm just getting back now. I'm still driving though but I thought of coming by and saying hi but I didn't know John was the founder or the host of NFT
Lisbon and I see Lisbon so I'm really happy about that because this is going to be my first I-relevance and we talk a lot about making connections and connecting with people I think and it like I-relevance is the best way you can you can possibly
I'm so happy I can't wait for this event. You will come also. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, we meet you there. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, now I think you will, you will love it. And yeah, of course, I've been in the event industry the last two years.
Ten years so I pretty I from the events and real life events, you know even if I spend all my days in Twitter spaces You know you transform everything with real life events and for me it's really important You know being with people spending time feeling them touching them small Yeah doing things and then and so yeah
You know, it's all about the vibes and you will see you know the vibe is extremely cool and Yeah, you know, we have a lot of innovation that will happen there. So really happy to meet you there Yeah, it's gonna be a blast. It's gonna be a blast I was even thinking about helping out with the with a speaker
panel and making a subscription but I haven't yet so I'm really thinking about that too but okay yeah yeah so maybe I mean no it's pretty everything you know we just closed everything now you know because yeah it's like it's a masterpiece you know we have like yeah
four different stages and you know have a 200 speakers to handle and all these kind of things but you know send me a DM you know maybe you know we can figure out something. That's awesome that's awesome. Are you from Lisbon by the way? Are you from Portugal? No I'm from Paris actually I'm from France but I
I spent time between, I really like, you know, something is happening in Lisbon. And you know, when I wanted to organize this event, I knew that I was living in Paris, but I liked it, and I didn't want to do it in Paris. And so I was, you know, I was looking for a good
in Europe to do it. In Lisbon, you have a lot of things happen there. A lot of artists have moved from different cities in Europe to end up in Lisbon. A lot of crypto people also have been going there, but more for, I would say, Taxis reasons. And also, you have a lot of tech and innovation
you know that a lot of basically web2 corporate companies, you know, who set up them, who have their headquarter there, basically. And so all of these, you know, plus the weather, plus the ocean, plus the food, plus the fact that it's pretty affordable, you know, is making a kind of new
Europe and Hub and this is also my bet you know in that yeah in next ten years you know a lot of things will happen in Lisbon so I decided to do it there I didn't know so much the CD at the beginning but no yeah I spent a lot of time there so yeah I'm spending the next three months there basically
That's that's great man. That's great. I can't wait. I can't wait. It's I just said it's gonna be my first one and yeah, it's just I'm pretty sure it's so cool first year really when yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, been in this space for two years now and
It's really sad that I haven't made it yet because I have still my university going on so I couldn't lose much time but this year I decided well just I'll just take it this step back from the uni and just do that.
So because you only live on so no one gives a shit. Hey wait, uh, not only your mother of six. That's crazy. Yes, sir. I am. I love to see you. I'm crazy. I'm in
This is half the Brady bunch, you know? I've got six. My oldest is 29. My youngest is eight and I have a grandson is four. That sounds like a basketball. That's awesome. I have three brothers as well. So I kind of know how he goes.
Yeah, we feel we feel at a hockey roster pretty well. Well, you know, I'm so I'm narrative. You know, I have only three and they feel like I'm a hero. You know, to be honest. Yeah, I get it, you know, to be fair, I had three boys first and I raised them. The youngest was 11 when I stood
started having what I call the second batch. So there's 11 years between the two batches. So I had help from the first batch with the second batch. But now the second batch is all 11, 10, and 8. I homeschool them. They're pretty feral. The older boys are like, I can't believe the stuff these kids get away with. I love it.
I think it goes like that. I have three siblings and we have like two, the first batch as you said was like we have a 13 years difference as well. So I think yeah it kind of works that way but it's amazing. It's amazing.
I really think that raising up kids is the best possible thing you can ever do. Because basically you're raising up the next society. On a micro level, we knew expandance to a micro spectrum that's basically what you get.
Congratulations, like you're doing an amazing job, Kali. Thank you. I appreciate that. You know, and I feel that way too when we go somewhere, you know, it's me, my husband, our six kids, and then a few of them have spouses or fiances or one of them just recently got married. You know, so there's like 10 or 12 of us every time we go somewhere.
So like I'm literally a traveling small village of my people, you know, and I do raise them that way. I feel like I'm raising them to be not as holes to be kind humans. I talk about all the things that I feel about the world around us at all times very openly with my kids, you know, I'm very wrong honest about everything they all still come to me.
for guidance, they love to, you know, commune with us and their siblings and we're really close. I don't have a lot of other outside extended families. So for me, you know, my kids are my whole world. And the younger ones, even, you know, I've introduced blockchain to them. They play the video games and stuff. They play Roblox and Fortnite and all these.
Interactive games where they see to the value in what's coming with digital collectibles and things like that we talk about value of things at home school so we talk about monetary cost of items all the time and how things work and transact and they have wallets they've got NFTs they're understanding how buying and selling
that can be profitable. My son's been hanging on to about $480 in profit. He made this year and he's been mentally spending it a hundred times over, but he's still holding it. He hasn't spent it yet. But it's just, it's interesting to see because I know that I was here when the internet came online, you know, my boys were very little at the time over years. They also, you know,
became obviously involved with online things. That's how they found crypto and all the stuff that brought them to where they are now in their adult lives. My oldest is 29. He works in IT. He makes six figures. He's doing so well for himself. And that's because I nourished his brain with access to technology. And I'll never be sad for that because I think
it's innovative what we can do with our brains and what computers are bringing to us to be able to develop these skills is just phenomenal. So thank you for those flowers. I do my best to try to create good humans because you're right. We are creating the next generation of society and in order for us to do better, we have to be better. And if we don't know how, however,
are we going to know? Yeah, guys, it just takes some notes on that. This is how you properly onboard new people into FV. So yeah, just just take some notes on that. But no, jokes aside, yeah, it's so amazing that I hear that.
Yeah, this is the proper mindset because I've been blown away by how many people think that job, 9 or 5 and hustling to have other day. It's much more important, they think it's much more important than creating kids and not
giving them out to, er, early, I don't know how you call them in English, but school for babies and another stuff like that. So yeah, that's awesome. That's awesome, Karli. Diamond man, how are you doing? We've interacted a lot. I think it's the first time we've...
see you on a space in just a minute but it's also because I haven't been able to join some of those 530 in the morning spaces you guys do with the netizens and Luba which is always a blast to see you guys because he's really a character and it's really fun you know when I'm up at 530 in the morning I love joining because it's like
I'm coming over to your spaces man. Let's go. Love this to Port France. So that's great. You know, I wish that Web 3 would sleep when I sleep because I miss so many cool spaces during the hours that I the few hours the day that I shut off my brain. I miss some of the most awesome spaces that I'm always
I'm like, I wake up, I'm like, damn it, what the heck, can't you just sleep when I sleep, please, can we have an arrangement made? Exactly, right? It's the globalization, exactly. Oh, please, get on Kelly's schedule so I don't miss this stuff, you give me some, okay, I'll squeeze, I will miss one more
I justify it, I do, it's crazy, I do. Not even just for spaces, but for everything, life itself. I have a hard time shutting up. I feel like my life is like a show you want to just binge watch. You know, so you know, like your binge watching a show and you have to go to bed. Like you have to fucking turn the thing off and go to bed.
you can't just keep going. I have such a hard time doing that. I'll shut it off for a few hours. But boy, since that TV's back on, my brain is going. My eyes are open. The TV's on my life. And I'm just back at it. It's crazy. Oh, yeah. And I think also, Kelly, I mean, you can have your own reality show, Cali Soup, what fix? You know#
plus six, they got that cake and whatever it was plus eight. Well, you could do it. So, you know, it's funny. You say that because with all the creators out there now on YouTube and stuff, and my kids, of course, they watch some of that content and they're always just like, "Mom, why don't we have a video camera going?" But they individually also create their own content.
daughter, she's 11 and she's got an Instagram that she started when she was eight and she has built that thing up to have an audience of thousands and she just is so creative and the content she comes up with, I mean I have zero input into what she does on there as far as what she creates and it's
so holistic and it's so awesome and I love that she has she's on there like creating these little marketing ads for little horse toys and the food she feeds them and she's just coming up with stuff every day she's so creative so there's content out there of our family it's just not coming for me because I have no filter.
which is good people appreciate genuine and it's there's not a lot of genuine left unfortunately but people appreciate it so you know that's what I appreciate it if someone says something it's funny I was listening to a podcast the other day on swearing
And I never thought about it at all, but all the different ways and why people swear and should people swear more, should people swear. Yes, it was just fascinating. Did you know that the word belly was once a swear word? And so was trousers. Trousers, you couldn't say trousers. It was inappropriate. And so it was just, was fascinating.
learning about all of these different swear words and how it kind of works. And to me, it's just like the whole world is, who knows what's going to be right and wrong in however many years from now. But this stuff to me is just so much fun stuff to think about. I don't know where I was going with that.
It's true though and a lot of people around the world you know they use different words and languages that we wouldn't use or others wouldn't use and they don't understand why we find a fence to one or the other and you know I was my husband laughs at me all the time because I make it up as I go like if I have a word that fits in that sentence I
I'm putting it there and I don't even care if it goes there. If it's even a real word, I'm sticking it in that sentence. And he laughs at me. And one of his Navy fellows was retiring this year. They had a ceremony. He came over for a few drinks to hang out one night. And my husband was laughing at me because of course I made up another word. And he looked at him and he said, sir, he said#
And I said there, that's right, don't you ever come at me again, but it's true they are all made up and that's what I also teach my kids because like I said, I don't have a filter and they don't now either very very much, you know, and I'm just like look. It's literally words only give only have value if you give
it to them. Like they only have impact if you create impact around it. Like there's no rhyme or reason why any word should be a taboo word. But if I'm using an expressive term and others obviously are aware that word is very expressive for whatever reason, then I will input it obviously for emphasis. But there's other times where it's just funny or right. And the filter aspect is so
It's outdated and there's a lot of words that yeah, we say your gestures or you know things other people I guess the thumbs up in some countries is hugely like you know, oh don't do that. That's terrible and I honestly use it for effect like yeah fuck you too buddy, but you know some people get offended by thumbs up sums are like
It's like, it's a like, I don't know, it's wild. The language is wild, period. Right. And keep in mind that they add new words to the dictionary every year because people created it and they're using it. So if people don't create new words and they don't use it, then the vocabulary is never going to expand.
anytime someone says, "Hey, you made up a word. You say, "You're welcome." I didn't know I could add it to the dictionary. Hold up. There we go. There we go. I love it. I love it. And listen, Kelly, I got to, at the 90 minute mark, I got to wrap it up because I have to run to the notice
to notice them stuff before they close at 5 p.m. by time and you know those notaries they always leave I don't want to you know bad mouth them but they always leave early like you show on up and it's like 457 and you got three minutes and they already left and you're like but you close it by too late I mean what are you gonna do about it too late too late
I know I get it me too. I'm good you guys are good. I'm good. We love it. It was fantastic hanging out with your Crypto punks friends here. I feel very undervalued in my pfp although I love my pfp by mart one of our sheriffs. I cannot quit rocking this girl. She's so handsome. I love her. She is. She is.
And I loved, I love always co-hosting with you and having, having puppets and John Carp up here and rescue you were silent, but still love just the same. So thank you guys all for coming. Sure enough. And you both are great co-host really like, I don't know how you're doing that every week, you know, you are great, you know, really, really close.
Congratulations to both of you. Thanks John, my friends. Thank you. Yeah, I was actually eating most of the space, but that was seriously funny. Honestly, great space. I'll definitely be back next time, 100%. Love it. Thanks guys. Have a good one. Bye bye.