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The unstoppable grift
Recorded: July 17, 2025 Duration: 2:11:12Space Recording
Short Summary
In a lively discussion, participants explore the generational divide in trust towards media and institutions, the implications for wealth accumulation, and the potential for new systems in governance, reflecting key trends and growth opportunities in the crypto space.
Full Transcription
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So how you gonna kick it? Gonna kick it root down
Gonna break it all down, gonna kick it root down
So how I put down, I put my foot down
And then I make the suburb, I put my root down
I'm like, sweetie, my vibe is gonna lie it
Everybody know I know my job is saying
Some electric, crack, dick, diamond
I guess you'd expect to catch the cool body
I never let you down with this area sand
So much, you don't know why I can turn it wild
I'm talking roof down, I put my boot down
And if you want a better be, I'm putting loose down
I'm saying roof down, I'm saying roof down
And I'm in different than mine, keep my boot down
I'm still not friends, I'm from the upper flesh
Money making, puts me to the chest Sometimes I'm a fool now, I'm still not friends, it's ain't from the upper flesh Money making, puts me to the chest
Sometimes I feel it's out, I feel it's late
Cause I do it when I want, so I never miss
Well I ain't coming out, looking like the fool of a son
I'm struck like the rhythm, but look at the side
Downtown, this world was born
But when the snow is falling, then I can't score
It's just my thing that I'm a fuck out of my phone call
I'm due to time, I don't wanna panic
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This is some old Beastie Boys. Chief, good to see you.
Oh, as soon as I come on, I say, Chief, good to see you. And Chief leaves me.
Hey, I had a short spaces last night and I want to do my regular Wednesday one.
I've been really bad about announcing these things lately.
And, you know, ever since I changed my name from the Litecoin Underground, you know, engagement's bad.
But it's also coincided with the fact that I just haven't been posting as much of a busy work.
And I've just kind of had a hard time kind of staying connected with what's going on.
But I wanted to kind of tell a story, a little bit of a story,
about a conversation I had with my parents. I think I mentioned this last week, or maybe it was even last night briefly, but about how immersed the boomer population is in this,
in the media, I guess, in the trust of the media, the trust of the institutions.
in the media, I guess, in the trust of the media, the trust of the institutions.
And no matter how much evidence is presented to them to make them understand they're being lied to,
it's like they don't want to believe.
And I can kind of understand that.
I can kind of understand feeling like my whole know, my whole life did things one way and
maybe it worked out for me.
So the people that doubt that method of things, maybe they're just jealous.
Maybe they're kind of resentful.
The fact that we've had success as a generation and there could be some element of that.
You know, I'm a Gen Xer. I look at
people younger than me that are like Gen Z and they feel resentful about
that they don't have enough money to buy a house, that type of stuff.
And they seem to think as if the game is rigged against them, as opposed to understanding that
time is how you accumulate assets. It's how you accumulate wealth. It's
how you accumulate knowledge and skills and things do get better and easier as you get older.
The economies of scale start to flip in your favor. You know, you start, instead of borrowing
money, you're now lending money. I'm not at that point yet. I'm still borrowing money,
but I'm getting there. I'm getting there. And I see the, the light is at the end of the tunnel. Um, so anyway, I was having this conversation. Hang
on. I'm gonna have a sip of beer here. No one's checked in yet. So I'm just talking to you, the,
uh, the ether. Now here's the, here's the Rand to come in. Uh, I'm talking to the ether here,
Here's the Rand to come in. I'm talking to the ether here, the Rand. I'm talking about the generational problem, the trust that the older generations have of the media, and kind of what I call the unstoppable grift here.
What I've noticed is that since the older people still trust the media, it's just a matter of time.
Maybe as they die off, do things change?
Or do we, as we get older, start to trust things more?
Do you find yourself more in line with the status quo as you age?
That could also be something that happens.
be something that happens. Um, and I'll bring the Rand up here, but I'm kind of, I'm kind of,
I'll bring the rand up here.
I'm going to circling a point here, the Rands. Let me, let me kind of finish this off. And this
is something that I've kind of talked about before, but you know, this, the group machine, the alliance between things like big pharma, big department of defense,
the war machine, the universities, the media, and government funding in general,
they all are aligned in one direction, and that's to extract as much value out of the citizenry as they possibly
can. And since they control every form of communication, it's really difficult to peel
this away. So, you know, these NGOs come into existence, lobbying groups exist. The media gives lobbying groups a platform to lobby for the big
weapons companies, the big pharmaceutical companies. Those pharmaceutical companies are
the advertisers for the media companies. So they're the ones who pay the bills. And meanwhile,
a lot of their money is coming from tax money. It's coming from fiat money. And so it's like this,
you feel like there's almost no way out of it. And I think this is why people in crypto, sometimes
we've simplified our belief down to like, well, there's only, you know, nobody can control it.
Or, you know, there's only going to be 21 million or 84 million. And we haven't really found a good way to explain to people like
this behemoth you're up against is so enormous that if you truly understood it, you would feel
pretty hopeless about it. And I've always said, like, as long as we still admire fiat money,
and we still give it, like we see it valuable you know we're still we're going to
have that issue of getting people's attention uh outside the crypto sphere because they just still
see dollars and the worst thing we can do is always glamorize the dollar because what it does
is it gives that dollar power as long as the dollar has power, they can continue to manipulate the media and everything around you 24-7.
So, all right, there's my rant rift.
The rand, that's my rant, the rand.
How you doing?
Pretty good, bro.
I love this space.
I love this space.
Just give it out.
Just give it out.
You were talking about a grift where the older generation just believes everything.
Well, I'm in the middle because my older generation, my parents believe all of it.
And then my children believe it, too.
And, like, they just believe in the dollar.
They believe in science and take the vaccine.
I'm in the middle, and I can't tell my parents or my children how I feel without them.
Like, what? You're crazy.
I'm just stuck in the middle here.
Just not dealing with the grift.
Yeah, it is tough.
Yeah, I mean, the grift that I'm talking about is the whole lobbying group, NGOs, you know, government money that funds these pet projects for all this bullshit.
I mean, we just know that it's just glad-handing all around, right?
That if things were valuable, it wouldn't require fiat money.
You know what I'm saying?
If it was actually producing value, it wouldn't require fiat money. You know what I'm saying? If it was actually producing value, it wouldn't require fiat money.
But they've got to put so much, they've got to pummel you with information, quote unquote.
They have to do it so much because there's nothing natural about it.
You shouldn't have to advertise things that you would do
naturally there's no advertisements for drinking water because drinking water is something you
normally fucking do you know what i'm saying but or breathing air uh yeah so in yeah the media
manipulation i agree with you it's very hard to get them to see
Like you could point out a lie you could point out a blatant lie and they'll just kind of throw it as a one-off like well Yeah, they didn't really know
You know like it will go over their head or they will
Chastise you for it or pointing it out to them
Yeah, my parents and I got a little bit about the war machine, you know, like the budget being over a trillion dollars.
And like, well, yeah, but we got to be, we got to protect ourselves.
And I'm thinking, are you, do you understand what the difference is between what we're doing and everybody else?
Protect us from what? People on the other side of the world?
You can't get out of the way of what you don't see is coming.
Does that make
sense? Like, if there's a train barreling
down your tracks, if you don't see the train,
it's going to smack you in the face.
But if you can't see the train,
then some people just can't see.
Or they don't want to see
I think that was the thing I was surprised with my parents
is that they just felt like
because I was like, think of all the wars we've been in
they're like, well what do you mean?
I'm like, well we've been helping in Yemen and Syria
I was trying to explain the whole Wesley Clark thing
where that guy found that
I'm talking about the guy who ran for president in 2008 I'm sure you know that famous clip I was trying to explain the whole Wesley Clark thing, where that guy found that.
I'm talking about the guy who ran for president in 2008.
I'm sure you know that famous clip.
He was a general, and he was in the Pentagon, and he saw a list of countries.
Egypt, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Iran.
He read off all these countries.
And this was after 9-11.
And he said the next day he went in,
and they were like, yeah, we're going to invade Iraq and Afghanistan,
or Iraq, and he's like, why?
Like, Iraq had nothing to do with this.
Why would we?
And it was clear there was a plan. The plan was three different countries, right?
Yeah, it was a plan.
The plan was to, yep.
Unseat, and so all those countries have different leaders today
than they did 15 years ago or 20 years ago now
Regime change right?
Are you old enough to remember the regime change in 1975 in Iran?
No, I'm I was nearly a
glimmer, you know
Yeah glimmer, you know? Yeah. And then they regime changed
that shit in 79, and look
what we've had since 79 in Iran.
That's about
to change again, though. So regime
change happens all the time.
And we're
just pawns. I get it.
Wait, going back to what you said,
there are people that see,
there are people that can't see
And there are people that refuse to see
Everybody is in one of those categories
You're going to pull a biblical thing out on me
I already know it
Not really
Usually you got one that fits perfectly
For what we're talking about
I got one
We're good
I'll wait for the right opportunity.
He who sees or something.
Come on, give me one.
Give me one.
Okay, here's what I actually thought about this today.
It's in the Psalms.
And it says, at the time I am afraid, I will trust in thee.
When you are so afraid, you don't know what to just sit back,
trust in God.
And then you can't be at fault.
And when you're
afraid, just stop
and trust
in God's plan, not the plan like the
Trumpers and Q and 17.
No, no.
Yeah, I'm going to look up.
And by the way.
What's that?
At the time, I am afraid I will trust in thee.
It's in the song.
I want to give an example of the grift.
I didn't have time to prepare for this.
I got home like a half or like 830 or 820.
I had to walk my dog and then you've had all week, bro.
I've been busy.
I've been busy.
No, you're right.
I'm losing my touch, you know, and I don't know what happened to animal.
Animal just has been out of out of pocket.
So, you know, I like the phrase out of pocket. I like the phrase
out of pocket.
I've used that and it's
truly out of pocket.
It's a good phrase.
I'm seeing my daughter's sitting behind
She disagrees
with me on a lot of stuff.
What are you guys talking about?
We're talking about
our daughters disagreeing
with us. I have one that
does the same thing.
Yeah, she does it in a lot of ways.
I disagree on what?
Do you agree...
Okay, when I talk about my anti-
vaccine stuff, you think I'm
crazy? Kinda, yeah.
Why? Why do you trust the vaccines?
Because vaccines are medicine.
They've been proven to work over like
the decades they've been around.
Well, some of them have been.
But some, but at some point in time,
how much do you put into a baby?
How many do you inject with, how many
shots, right? I don't know.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
That's where it gets to be.
I think it gets to be black and white.
Some people, they instantly...
It needs to be two or three.
Now it's 70 of them.
Vaccine.
70, yeah.
If it keeps the child safe, then sure.
What if it hurt the child?
What if there's a 1% chance it would hurt you?
Well, that's a 1% chance it would hurt you?
Well, that's a 1% chance.
That's not like a 10%. What if that 1% was your child?
There you go.
What if it was you?
It's not worth the risk.
It's not 1%.
I mean, it's very small.
I'm still not like,
uh, convinced that like vaccines are a huge problem, but I do think that there's a lot of,
uh, there's a lot of energy put behind fighting.
Well, I also do think there's, I should say this. I do think there's good vaccines.
There, there were, there were good vaccines, but up until the 70s, they start putting aborted fetal cells in there.
Now, why?
And they started putting mercury in those vaccines.
I actually read why they do it.
I actually read why they do the cells.
There was a legitimate reason.
So the baby doesn't go to waste?
There's my, that's your
father's daughter.
You're raising her
right to question everything.
Question everything.
It had to do with
oh, there was a reason
behind it, and it actually was a legitimate
scientific reason. It was about
the fact that they
have to have something in the vial,
maybe for the virus to live. I don't remember what it was, but it kind of made sense to me.
I was like, okay, I can buy that. I guess I just think that, you know, medicine's a weird thing
and it's not, we're not discovering, you know, we're not God, right's not we're not discovering you know we're not god right so we're not
discovering cures left and right and i think that it becomes obvious it's almost like with crypto
right everybody's got this new thing that they can oh here's this shiny new thing that
is exciting for a while and then it kind of blows over and goes away or it's not quite what it was
sold to be i think we've all i think the older you get the more you realize that most things that
get told you get told in the next big thing actually are not the next big thing and they
fade away it's a big sales pitch um some things stick around but yeah if yeah, if it's so great.
Yeah, like microwaves.
But like if it's so good,
then you shouldn't have to force people to take it.
I think that's probably at the end of the day
that we should let people decide not to take it.
And if their kids get harmed,
then lesson learned, you know what I mean?
But what happens, Anna,
is that what I'm trying about, this unstoppable grift, is that everything you read in the news is funded by the
pharmaceutical companies. And all the universities are funded by the pharmaceutical companies. So
you're like, well, how can they be objective? All right, you're leaving now.
No, I'm going to grab a glass of water.
No, I'm going to grab a glass of water.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, so that's the grift, is that all communication has a filter.
So how do you get real information, Aran?
Where do you go for what you feel is trusted information?
I listen to everything, and then just i read what i what it resonates with me i mean
so i mean it used to be drudge report but that's been taken over i go to uh stevequayle.com
for a little truth and here and there and then i let's see um i i do listen to everything. I listen to idiots and fools and all that.
And I just figure it out myself.
But that's just me.
Because, I mean, I could be wrong on some things I follow.
But if I won't follow it, if it just doesn't hit me to my soul, it's like, no, I'm not doing that.
I don't care.
I don't trust the science.
Nothing.
But, you know, I know i do oh here's
something today you might like this i watched something today and nicotine is in every night
shade plant it's in tobacco and nicotine cancels most viruses right up within 72 hours, even the AIDS virus.
So why do they say we're going to stop?
You don't need tobacco.
Well, it's not that tobacco.
I read something like that a long time ago.
Yeah.
And they want to cut out dandelions.
Monsanto, kill all the dandelions.
Well, dandelion root and leaves are so healthy for people.
Just eat the roots and leaves.
And so that's why they want to kill it off.
They want to hurt the human population.
And I know it's, it is a grift.
What a great title, a grift.
Everything's a grift.
I know.
I was trying to explain it to my dad.
I was like, it's just, it's everywhere.
There's no escaping it.
So either you decide at some point, either you get on board
or you feel like you have to ignore it.
But if we ignore it,
most of the population around us thinks we're idiots.
It's like, no, I'm not an idiot. I can see this.
My dad used to always be like, no, I'm not an idiot. I can see this. Yeah, my dad used to go.
My dad used to always be like,
how do you not read the newspaper every day?
I read the newspaper every day,
and I'm thinking, man,
that's a good soldier, you know?
I mean, it depends what news source
you're getting it from.
Yeah, see, that's good.
That's good you think that.
Yes, that's right.
It depends.
So you have to
judge what news source you read it from because they're all most of them are most of them are
paid for well here's biased well here's what here's the difficult part is when you watch
something like the national news and they'll it'll say here's's our expert on the Israeli-Iranian war, right? And they bring a guy in,
he's in a suit, and he's like a former general. So you go, gosh, this guy must really know what
he's doing. And he works for someone, like here, I'm looking at this, like the Brookings Institute
has their Middle East policy, or this company, the Middle East Institute. You go, okay, well, this guy's head of whatever, Israeli, the Israeli-Iran war.
He works for the Middle East Institute.
He's a former general.
And you think, okay, this is good information.
Then double check sources.
But then you'll find out he works for Middle East Institute.
And you go, okay, well, who's the Middle East Institute?
And I'm just making this up.
I have no idea if this is real.
This is an example of what's called a think tank.
And then they get their
money. Their funders
are all people who make bombs
and make weapons of war.
And so then he goes on there and he goes
while the situation is really bad
the United States needs to intervene
because we can't let this
Iranian dictator
get a nuclear weapon.
So what does that do?
That gets the public going, yeah, let's go fight war.
And most people can double check at this point.
I get it, but they don't. They trust the guy in the suit.
They call it the white coat, white coat syndrome, white coat syndrome.
There are a decent number of people who double check.
There are there.
And everybody has their bias.
And I think that's what I think you have to find over time is like, who is genuinely trying to give me good information?
And who is trying to manipulate the way I think about it?
Yeah, you always have to double check.
Find another source, like get a second opinion, and then compare it, and then make your own decision.
You just don't suck up the national news like everything.
Well, they say this.
Anything you take the national news as most
likely you're being manipulated.
That's
the most likely situation, right?
The places where
those people, generally people
on YouTube, most of them
I shouldn't even say that.
A good chunk of YouTubers generally
are going to be independent, but there are a lot
that are also a part
of the same machine.
When the YouTube people get kicked off,
that's when you know that they're on something.
That is true.
Actually, Brett
Weinstein just had a video
this week
or his podcast he talked about in 2021.
They demonetized him and took away like four or five episodes that he had recorded with like Peter McCullough.
And who's the other guy?
Pierre Corey, you know, Robert Malone.
They took him off the air.
They demonetized him.
And then he said at that point, like they got throttled big time. you know robert malone they took him off the air they demonetized him and then
he said at that point like they got throttled big time like they were making
they had made a couple of months where they were making like serious money and suddenly
they got shut shut off from monetization their growth completely stopped so like they weren't
part of the algorithm anymore but he said just this week. They would go back for years
videos before and say, oh no, you're
flagged for a two-year-old video.
They just went back and just like
cut people off.
He just went on Joe
Rogan and explained this and I guess
YouTube reached out to him and put those videos
back up and gave him
some more ability to monetize.
But he said, you know,
three years of shutting him down.
But yeah, I mean,
and that's the hard part. I do like places, I should
probably be watching Rumble more than I watch YouTube.
What is Rumble?
Rumble is YouTube
uncensored.
What is Rumble? She's about to be 12 years old give her okay i get it i get it all right even though she laughs at using aborted fetuses
she's still not even 12. um yeah well who what's the other one? There's Rumble, and it used to be Odyssey,
but I don't think that one's functional, right?
BitChute, maybe?
Oh, BitChute, I've heard of that one.
What do you watch?
Do you watch Rumble?
On occasion.
I try to stick with youtube and x because they're not going to force me out of it
i can find everything i need on youtube and x even though it's filtered i get it but i can
make up my own mind i it's hard to wiggle through this whole maze of independent media and like,
who's really independent. Who's a bot. Who's who they like my video.
And then I get five followers just because, and they're all bots. It's like,
okay, fine. I'm not following you back. It doesn't matter. Yeah. They,
they go away over time.
Yeah. And I feel like, um,
the other part is that you get a lot of people they get some momentum
being i don't know they they have a mega crowd and then they just speak to the mega crowd
they're never going to second guess mega because yeah they're going to get the momentum
and then they're going to get cut off they let you get so far then they slap you down well what
i'm saying is that they're not they also aren't thinking objectively that's the hardest part is to not just be a people pleaser
like you have to basically and i probably do it too much the other direction i argue with my
audience too much that's why i know you're not a bot bro yeah i'm not i mean we're all bots to
some degree we've all been programmed in some way.
I mean, the brain's kind of just a meaty supercomputer, so...
Yeah.
Did you hear that one, Naranda?
Meaty supercomputer.
You're right.
Yeah.
It's fueled by food instead of a...
I gave a crashing smile emoji.
Yeah, think about this.
Food is just a battery.
Think about that.
Specifically sugar.
That's what the brain runs on.
Does it?
Yeah.
I haven't eaten sugar in 20 years.
Well, you've eaten bread, right?
That's after the throat.
Because it turns its sugar and gives me heartburn.
You're the guy who drinks Crown Royal.
It's after the throat.
Sugar gives me heartburn.
Beer and Crown turn to sugar in my tummy. That's good. I can handle that.
Okay.
I got this.
I got rules.
So yeah, it's really hard to find objective thinking
but I think
I don't know man
I do think there's a lot on the right
it's become a
I don't want to call it a grift but like
it's become that
bubble inside the
bubble everybody talking to each other.
A conspiracy.
No, like talking and people that agree with you.
If you just talk to people that agree with you,
then you're not going to really,
you're never going to hear the other side.
Correct.
You have to listen to everybody
and make up your own mind.
Yep.
See, there you go. Look at this.
Anna's drawing creepy
stuff on this whiteboard.
I'm just drawing. I'm just doodling.
Well, okay.
Hang on one second, guys.
I'm actually proud that she knows the word
conspiracy.
Oh, she's a
pretty smart kid.
Well, now she's leaving.
Now, take the compliment.
Just wave as you go.
She's always had a broad vocabulary.
Words are easy to her.
So that's why she's so clever a lot of times.
Obviously, I like her.
Yeah, I'm actually looking at Rumble right now.
Like, what even ends up on here?
And Ministries?
I don't know.
Some guy named Vince?
Or Vince's?
So yeah, it's a lot of America First Trump.
It's become kind of the Trump platform, right?
YouTube is a safe place for
progressive left
thinking. Do you think
the Trump platform has
gotten a big old wake-up call in the last
seven to ten days?
With the Epstein stuff? The MAGA people?
Oh, yeah. Yeah, of course.
See, but this is the
part of what's going on
that just makes you crazy is that
you know he's he comes out like what's the big deal and then you see the sycophants come out
you know what yeah why are we so worried about this and you're just like those people to me are
obviously they're either operatives like i think someone like, I'm not sure I've seen Cat Turd.
Cat Turd's a good example of somebody like that
where he's going to agree
with everything Trump.
Yeah, he's a MAGA thing,
whatever, and so many people,
the Hodgkins are calling him out
this week, big time.
Are they? Good.
Yeah, that's
exciting, and I think what Elon talked about, the American Party, I do think we need a third party.
Everybody says that all the time.
Last time we had a third party was Ross Perot and they got us Bill Clinton.
So I don't think that third party is going to.
That's such distraction.
Well, but you don't think that it's going to... That's such distraction. Well,
but you don't think that it's going to make any difference ultimately?
Well, I think they're throwing up something
to distract us.
I don't think it's going to make a difference.
But don't be following that crap, man.
I mean, not that the two-party system is there
and the be-all end-all but if there's
a third party I mean that's just distractions it's people can't see it and no and I really don't care
if the Epstein list comes out I I really don't care about Epstein. I care about the
children that were harmed.
I want to know the perpetrators.
I don't care what happens to
Jeffrey. He's down or he's on
an island somewhere. But I want
justice for the
children.
And if you say
stop talking about Jeffrey Epstein, it's
not about Epstein.
I want to know about the children that were harmed.
Yeah, that's the trick, right?
That's the trick.
It's like, don't talk about the actual thing.
Look over here.
Don't look there.
Stupid.
Well, okay, you don't like the idea of a third party, huh?
We have a unit party,
so it's actually going to be the second party.
There's no third party here.
Everything here is a unit party.
Do you think you need to have,
okay, fine.
Call it a second party.
Do you think if Elon has an American party,
I mean, obviously he's got mostly conservative support,
but don't you think that basically Trump took over the Republican party?
Yeah, yeah, I think so.
Could Elon take over the Republican party?
Some Republicans, yes.
But Elon was a demo before he was a Repubo,
and then now he's doing something different.
He's bouncing around like a Chichenko ball.
Go ahead.
I was going to say, he's a grifter himself.
Oh, yeah.
Of the highest order.
What do you think
are you interested in this?
No, I'm just bored.
Sorry, my daughter's just hanging out.
She's just like you,
Iran. She loves the space.
No, I'm just bored, and I don't have anything else
to do.
I don't want to waste all my papers.
The two things I'm not...
I don't understand about him.
The two things Elon's been talking about
for the last six months
has been getting to Mars
and also population.
Okay, let's talk about that
because you see this all the time.
People going... Mars, population population but then he's also
talked about the waste of money
like 14 magical money
printers and
nobody listened to him
he's like throw up my hands I'm done
nobody's gonna listen
but don't you find it funny that
okay this is the stuff
that I when i
think about the the okay the way that we are kind of quietly told certain things and they become
accepted fact without any real critical thought and i said this a while ago when I talked about the taxing of unrealized capital gains.
You know, they start talking about it.
And then five years later, it's, you know, we should revisit this idea.
And then five years after that, it's like, you know, we've been talking about this for a decade.
It's about time we start implementing it.
And then 10 more years later, somebody proposes a bill.
And then 10 years later, it's like, we've been talking about this for 20 years.
It's time to have unrealized capital gains tax.
And it slowly leaks into the conversation.
And I think the whole, we need to start, our population isn't going to increase.
And it's this scary thing if oh my god the population doesn't grow
why is that necessary but um to me is some sort of like planting of the seeds i don't i don't
know what it is like the whole the population will grow thing well what it is is people sorry
my daughter's asking what that is basically Basically, as countries get richer and become more successful, fewer people have kids.
So, like, really poor countries, they have a lot of kids.
Their populations grow like crazy.
But what's happening is, like, we aren't even looking like we're going to replace ourselves.
Meaning, if the population in the U.S. today is 300 million, in 20 years it'll be 280 million.
That isn't even, what?
If people don't have kids just don't want to.
Well, so my thing is I don't understand what the problem is.
I don't see why that's a problem.
But if you read the news, from both sides they'll tell you, like, we have a population growing problem.
We're not replacing ourselves.
Why is it a problem?
The U.S. population was 100 million.
How many years ago?
And we survived.
Now it's 300 million.
It might go back to 100.
So I think it's a consumption thing.
I think there's a lot of concern that if populations stagnate, stock prices don't go up.
You have fewer consumers.
You have lower demand. Housing prices don't go up you have fewer consumers you have lower demand
housing prices don't go up you know so that's a very real problem if you're in the business of
selling things if there's fewer people around oh so rich people are concerned yes i think that's
what it is because rich people control the media see this is what so they'll say what i want to say like this animal will say something
like this as if it's accepted fact as if like they they make a statement with the assumption that
with the assumption that it's a problem as population goes down that's what they say
and they don't you don't ever even think about that that was just planted into your brain
of population going down
as a problem.
How come in the old days
Turn that air conditioner off, animal.
I really...
You're killing me.
You know how freaking humid it is up here?
Oh, you're good. It's fine.
Just mute yourself once in a while.
In the old days, they had the priests going up to people's homes and be like,
Hey, how's the baby doing? Yeah?
Oh, the baby's like six months old. It's just about time for you to have another one.
And then the woman's like, well, I already have seven other kids.
He's like, yeah, no, that's perfect. We're aiming for 12.
Some shit like that.
That was the church
trying to grow their
population, their user base.
Yeah, why was that?
So they could collect more taxes or what?
Yes, that's exactly
right. Because they want the money.
The love of money is the root
of all evil. So when
the church tells you, have more babies,
have more babies, have more babies,
no, they just want the money.
You have enough. Let me tell you a story about cats.
Sorry, is it as
populations become
more and more
or less religious?
What's the term?
What's it?
Oh my God. Secular? Oh, my God.
Atheist?
Secular?
Yeah, secular.
Secular, yes.
As populations become more secular, they just have less kids?
I can see that.
Is that it, maybe?
Let me tell you a story about cats, okay?
You've got a farm, and you have two cats.
Yeah.
Well, after about 10 years, you're going to have 30 cats at the farm and they can't eat the rat population enough.
And so then all cats get a disease and you go back to two cats and then you start over.
If you ever been on a farm, you'll know you got 20, 30 cats and then they all get something and die.
They're like lemons.
You just run off a cliff.
Now, not to translate to humans.
Go ahead.
We're not concerned about
the cats dying?
Well,
I'm translating to humans dying.
I'm not worried.
They do.
They do.
I've heard there's been studies from
places that
the asexual people
in the LGBTQ community who prefer
not to have
baby making unless
for the purpose
of making children.
They're apparently probably
more evolved, which
kind of makes sense
That sounds biased to me
It seems that they're selfish
Look if you don't have children
Who's going to take care of you
When you're 90
I forgot
Listen
Grant's daughter
Underground junior
Underground junior
You will be taking care of your parent
when he can't.
And if you don't have a child,
who's going to take care of you
when you can't?
Some lackey.
Yeah.
In an old folks home.
Yeah, exactly.
Who makes $20 an hour and doesn't care about you
frankly that's the reality no i mean it's well the religious part's interesting to me animal
because i always think of it as like developing countries are the ones that they have a lot of
kids because they need kids to i don't know go and work that was always a thing that we we were younger right
is the church more
active in those communities too is it possible
is it like I'm just
or maybe what there's just
less entertainment for them and they
they have more time
I think the church babies I think when you're talking about the church
back then to me was like
a proxy for the state
depending how far back we're going you know what
i mean right yeah say say uh say 100 years right yeah and it was like yeah i want to build my
population up i want to build my user base but i never heard of the church actually doing that
that's interesting maybe that's a canadian Yeah, definitely a Quebecois thing.
And I mean, that's, so like, in Quebec here,
we have, we had this thing called the Silent
Revolution. I don't know if you
were taught this in school, but they drilled
it into us up here.
Basically,
there was some, do you know what happened with
the Quiet Revolution?
People just pissed off at the church.
I'm looking up right now.
What?
Why were they pissed off at the church?
Because the church was shoving
shit down their throat.
But why? Were they like abusive?
Maybe, but like just Google it.
Okay, Grant's Googling it
Okay, but my understanding is that Quebec specifically
Was very religious for very long
And people just resented it
And after the war they were like
Talk to that
Right, and so the whole province became
Secular overnight practically
Basically
Litecoin Underground Junior
She left Do you know why do you know
why they don't want the priest to get married because when they had their money they would
all go to the church and not to the generational people so that's why they said you can't get
married because we don't want your money going to your family. We want it all going to the church. There's something behind that.
That's insane. Yeah,
that makes sense, though.
So, yeah, it sounds like it was, yeah,
basically people shifted
towards
the shift in alignment towards federalist
and separatist factions,
which you guys
are still dealing with.
Yeah.
There's a bit of a resurgence.
Okay, is the Quiet Revolution scene
positive or negative in here?
I think so, yeah.
It's still going on today.
There's these bills that have been passed recently
that made it illegal
for public servants to have religious items on them, like a hijab.
So teachers and nurses can't wear their hijab.
And it's the same for crosses and stuff.
It's frowned upon, right?
frowned upon, right? There aren't
There aren't crosses in classrooms and any of that stuff.
crosses in classrooms and any of that stuff.
Yeah, so
there's still, like, public servants
aren't meant to be religious at all
anymore.
But they do promote rainbow flags, right?
That's not a religion.
Well, I guess, yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
This is the age of enlightenment,
right?
That's not a belief structure,
the Rand.
Oh, yes it is.
I know it is.
You're being sarcastic.
I get it.
Once you start making your own flag,
you're both political and potentially religious.
Yeah.
Is politics a religion?
It's dogmatic
these days.
We have a lot of hacks.
I think it's always in the interest of the government
to crush
religion.
Because
like Loran talks about,
fear not, right?
If you're not afraid, you're not a very good soldier, you know?
You're not going to hate your enemy,
and you're not going to go out and work in the interest of the government.
You're going to think about yourself more.
Well,
Jesus said, love them that hate you.
And then despite
they use you, that is so
opposite of government.
Love them that hate you?
You mean like your enemies? Whoever you're
told to hate? Turn the other cheek.
Yes. And wait.
Okay, look at that. Turn the other cheek
thing. It doesn't
mean let somebody
smack you twice. It was a
slap. And turn the other cheek.
Okay, slap me twice, but
if you come after me with a
fist or anything, no, I'm taking you down.
It doesn't mean you get beat up around the block.
Let's not turn the other cheek.
Like, like once, fool me once, slap me once, jam on you, slap me twice, we're going to have problems.
Jesus said, one time he sent out his disciples, says, don't carry a purse or a script or a sword, just go out.
But the next time he sent them out,
it says,
carry a sword this time.
You're going to,
you're going to need it.
Interesting.
So there are times when you just take the grief from other people.
Then there are times when you just go,
man,
you just pop them in the jaw.
And then you like,
like what,
what's that girl from,
Oh, Seinfeld where she just said, she punched people and said, step off.
There are times when you have to say, step off.
You ain't going no farther.
No, so, like, turn the other cheek is meant to be the antithesis of an eye for an eye.
Right? Where an eye for an eye just, like, it is unlimited
revenge and excessive revenge. Turn the other cheek
is like stopping the cycle of violence. Dude, it's so, okay,
I had a thought this week. It's so funny you bring this up, because I
was at, you know, I think I told you, my older daughter
has a lot of friends and has been
attending Mormon church for quite a long time. And I've been going the last few weeks with her
and I like to go. She likes when I go. And so I'm trying to get up every Sunday and go with her.
And I was thinking about this Old Testament versus New Testament. And almost precisely what you said here,
that the Old Testament God was more like vengeful and authoritarian.
Eye for an eye, right?
Tooth for tooth.
You're right. More punishing, something to be feared.
And was Jesus, let's take the mystical sent from heaven thing out of Jesus for a second.
I'm not saying he wasn't, but I think it was a philosophical change.
It was so many of the ideas, the reason Jesus was so revolutionary,
I think he brought about some things that were a weight off the shoulders of people
who were wanting to be religious.
And they went, oh, okay, maybe it isn't this fearful, punishing thing.
I can actually be forgiven for my sins.
It was maybe a new way of thinking about being more forgiving for people.
You're totally right.
Because people that lived under the law were living under fear.
Do this, don't do that.
You're going to get smacked down.
And then Jesus came out and said, hey, it's not the law. Do this, don't do that. You're going to get smacked down. And then Jesus came out and said,
hey, it's not the law.
It's in your heart.
Right, you have everlasting love.
You can always be forgiven.
That was so revolutionary for the time.
And it made me think about,
well, maybe this Joseph Smith
who went and found these plates,
maybe there's something in what they wrote
that's a next evolution of thinking
again I don't know enough about it
I don't know how wildly different it is from Jesus
I don't think it is that different
but is there like another turning of
like belief structures coming
when we talk about the second coming of Christ
is there some sort of philosopher or someone that'll come to the planet and unleash a philosophy for life that, I don't know, checks some boxes that we didn't know needed to be checked?
Because we just don't know.
I think Jesus did that like 2,000 years ago, and we're still waiting for that unchecking the boxes and stuff, and we just don't see what's right in front of us.
And one of the things I thought about that was that I think needs to change in religion.
Maybe this is the next guy.
Is there's a whole lot of don't do this, don't do that.
I mean, the Ten Commandments.
You can't do this, you can't do that, you can't do this, you can't do that. But there's not a do this, do that,
like positive affirmations of if you want to live, now there's some instruction in it, but if you
want to live like whatever, a happy godly life or whatever you want to call it, that you should be
actively doing certain types of things,
whatever they may be.
And I know there's some stuff about that.
And churches do certain things with charity and all that.
But maybe even just things in your personal life
that people should be doing by themselves, for themselves.
I think Jordan Peterson talked about a lot of that.
Exactly. It's what's in your heart.
What's your motivation?
Are you working under fear?
Don't do this.
Don't do that.
Or are you working under this is what you should do and give grace to people and help people.
And Jesus brought the totally different thing.
He says, hey, what's your motivation?
Are you working out of fear or are you working out of fear are you working out of love that's a hard thing for people to most people
don't even want to do that it's against our nature right yeah we want to get we
want to get vengeance most people if you tell us about religion and what what I
was struck by actually a conversation my sister is like it's amazing how much
they latch on to the idea that it's intended to be restrictive, right?
It's like, well, you can't tell me what to do.
You can't, you know, aren't you worried that, I mean, they're asking me about my daughter.
Like, aren't you worried she's going to feel like isolated or she feels like she's breaking the rules or she can't do certain things she wants to do?
And it's like, that's not at all what Christianity is about at all.
It's about you are allowed to do what you want to do. They're trying to give you some guidelines.
I'm like, these aren't things that are going to lead to a fulfilling life. And these are the things that are. But it does have like, I think people who are not involved in it do see it as a like a set of rules that i have
to live by and and the only payoff is in in the afterlife like they don't understand that the
intention is about how that's not how jesus wants you to live do this do that don't do this and
do that don't do this and that's fear fear not like 365 times in the bible it says fear not
don't fear fear brings you down brings down your vibrations energy and you just have to like okay
i want to live my life in pleasing god and not that i'm afraid of god it's like i really want to do everything i can to please him
and i don't really care if anybody decides that i'm doing the wrong thing
it's in my heart that's what i feel and i don't put it bro i don't push religion you guys know that no i i i don't either you're gonna find out i don't
it's got to be free and willing and accept it you can't force anybody into anything
everybody you just tell what your truth is and they'll believe it or they won't
and if they believe it you know that they are solid believers because they've made that decision on their own.
And that's the best way that you can teach people.
You don't have to fight people.
Don't argue with people.
Just tell what you think is true and let them figure it out.
And they're going to figure it out or they won't.
And you can't.
If they don't figure it out, you can't force them to figure it out, or they won't. And you can't, if they don't figure it out, you can't force them to figure it out.
You're banging your head against the wall.
I don't do that.
I love this space.
You guys are good, man.
Yeah, I feel like the New Testament was like a changing culture.
I think the culture of the planet changed.
I think the culture of the planet changed.
And I think that similarly, I think the Declaration of Independence was one of those types of documents that you can mark before and after the United States was formed.
It was a hundred years or so.
All the colonies started to go away.
Democracy
ruled the day.
I mean, think about the massive transformation
from 1776 to
maybe 1920.
And even today,
250 years is a blip in history
and it all started with
really the U.S. going,
we're done. It's rooted in yes the u.s said we the people we're we're established by god and we are individual sovereign individuals
there's no government that can force it and the United States was the first country, probably in the world, that said the individual has the right to make its own sovereign mind.
Yeah.
And what has happened?
How have we lost this?
What has happened?
Honestly.
I mean, has it changed?
Oh, it's changed.
And little by little, slowly I turned, but we were solid 1776.
And in three or four hundred years, it's just been weaseled out where people don't even know what they believe.
They just believe the government. And it's like, wake up, people. Wake up.
Go ahead, Animal.
Sorry, did you want to say something or no?
No, I was just looking it up on Gemini.
And yeah, apparently you're right.
The New Testament, Jesus consistently emphasizes the inner disposition and the spirit behind the law.
Moving beyond merely not committing murder to forbidding anger and hateful thoughts.
Turning the other cheek is an outward manifestation of an inner commitment to love,
humility, and peace, even when wronged. It's about changing the heart that seeks revenge.
And I definitely, okay, in that context, I don't know how things have changed since the Declaration
of Independence but I feel like revenge
is trending
I don't know maybe
maybe it's just me but
I have like a lot of friends that are
you know sending me
a lot of
stuff recently about Epstein for example
like yeah look at this
look at the Republicans are all freaking out and shit and like just gloating.
Revenge is not good.
If it's comes down to a personal level, you want revenge on somebody you have to say, Oh, okay.
I know that God will give that person exact justice because it's going to be exact but i will make a mistake and go overboard on revenge on
somebody and i just got to give it up and let god do it and then you sit back after a while and you
say oh you were right god because that person that thing happened to that person and i would
have done something totally different but you don't need people don't you don't need... Humans don't need revenge.
We can't handle revenge.
A guy can do this.
At the exact
perfect time.
I love when I come up
with these random things.
Going back to my daughter, she was all about...
She wanted me to watch the show that's on Netflix right now.
K-pop demon hunters
and uh interesting and i honestly really liked it um but the story was
uh let me think about how to put this i'm sure this is a story as old as time but
But like essentially, let me think about how to put this.
like essentially let me think about how to put this
Well, essentially what kind of transpired towards the end is that there were these demons and they were always trying to attack the humans on earth.
And one of the demons talks to the demon hunters and kind of explains like, hey, I'm not a bad person.
Like this is why I was put into hell.
And this is why I have this is why I am who I am.
And she realized that for me, I have all this hatred towards the demons.
But I'm never going to solve this problem of demons if I just hate them.
If all we do is continue to
spread a message of hate, we're feeding this negativity. And almost that the only way to
solve this is to, I don't want to say embrace them, but to do it through positivity. That was
ultimately the message that I got out of it. And, but it was a really interesting, you know, you know, I have a couple of drinks and I think about this stuff when I watch these things.
And that actually, I think what prompted me to think about like the evolution of the way we think about things.
And like, I think bullying is a good example of something that's really become a passe.
Like people just don't, it's just not funny anymore
it's lost its like thing over time and generations just don't do it if you understand that the
demons are here to hate and you you're not gonna not gonna help that but if you understand where
they're coming from you can't defeat hate you can. Yeah, they got more hate than you, bro. Trust me.
If you sit back and say, okay, I'm just watching and see what you do.
You let them do what they're going to do.
And then you just react.
The only thing you can control is your reaction personally as an individual.
And that's the only person you have to answer to god
for how did i handle this situation god and he's gonna bless you or save that because you don't
you don't hate you can't fight hate with more hate you can't and it and most people don't
realize that they say i want to hate No, you can't hate better.
You've never talked about revenge, right?
Yeah.
The end game is...
It's a bottom.
It ends with one.
That's like what the Bitcoiners are doing.
It's going to tear you down
if you focus on it.
The hate and the revenge.
It's only going to hurt you as an individual.
You've got to let it go and give it up.
Give it up to God.
Let him deal with it.
I ain't dealing with that.
No, I don't have time for that shit.
This is where I'm going to challenge you, Rand.
This is the hard part. This is where I think,
ooh, this is tough. I don't want to
say Christianity falls short, but I
might say it. That
you can find yourself in a situation
where you go, well, I'm just
going to leave things in the hands of God
and maybe you
avoid confronting something
that needs to be confronted.
Right?
You just walk away and somebody else takes care of it.
No, because that's not what Jesus says.
You don't avoid things that will just come back to you in spades.
But there are times when you just have to stand up and say, thus far, no farther.
But then you just defend yourself.
You don't attack other people.
You just... Yeah, when it comes to violence and stuff, right?
Yeah.
What about, like, picking up litter?
I don't know, it's really simple.
It's an example of somebody out there is doing a harm.
Who's going to clean it up?
Yeah, you know
they should put our chores in the Ten Commandments
like that's not bad.
Then it comes to your motivation
because you're picking up litter when nobody
else does and God's going to honor you
for that. You're cleaning
up the bullshit.
Where is that in the scripture? Anywhere?
Picking up litter?
Well, doing, let's say
I mean, cleanliness is next to godliness
they say, right?
Oh, look at you. That's a church.
That's in the Psalms.
But what if it's not on my property?
It's not in my state.
It's not in my country.
What if you cleaned up somebody else's property? Do you think you'd get
blessed for it? Or do you think you'd get chastised
for cleaning up litter on somebody else's property?
It's in your heart. It's your motivation.
You go feed homeless people and we have a state entity that wants
to stop people from feeding homeless people.
Like, that's crazy.
Oh, your government does that because they don't want you eating.
Yes, they do.
Because they don't want a competitor.
Right?
You're horning on their territory when you start going, hey, I'm going to actually take care of the people.
And then we get back to the grift.
The government grifts you,
right?
No, not the snack people.
And we're talking about,
you don't know about, you see it happens
in LA all the time. There's people that go out every weekend
to feed homeless people and they get arrested
every weekend.
Or they get a ticket or something.
It's illegal to feed homeless people and they get arrested every weekend. Or they get a ticket or something. But it's illegal to feed homeless people.
I mean, is it because...
Why?
Is it because they're feeding them homemade food and there's no sanitation or no inspections going on and stuff?
Probably because they didn't get a tax on it.
They didn't make any money off of you giving something from yourself to people that are in need.
And the government didn't make their 2%, 3%.
That doesn't make sense.
That's what they're saying.
It says, in some cities, it's illegal to feed homeless people in public spaces, often due to ordinances restricting food sharing without a permit.
They're framed around public safety, sanitation, or the need to
consolidate charitable efforts.
So there you go.
Consolidate charitable
efforts. That's
not a phrase you hear every day.
They consolidate so they can
grift.
It's decentralized. They can't have
help decentralized.
No. That's decentralized. They can't have help decentralized. No.
That's insane.
But yeah, so think about what that is.
I mean, that is the definition
of something that's just...
You're going to use the word demonic.
It's just like,
how could you be so
harmful that you're the cop and you're
forced to go out and enforce that law?
And at some point, that's what I mean.'re forced to go out and enforce that law you know at some point that's what i mean so if someone's begging on the street and you give them a the rest of your big mac you get arrested
well it's not it's not that what's happening is it's people go out like a food truck
yeah if you give them 20 big mac then they got a problem with it
Yeah, if you give them 20 Big Macs
then they've got a problem with it.
Okay, so like one Big Mac
or a half-eaten Big Mac, that's all good.
But the second you start getting Happy Meals
and shit for everyone and the kids,
that's a problem.
Somebody's got to get involved
to grift and take 2% or 3% off the top.
I go to an AM, PM or a Chevron
every morning and there's always
somebody sleeping on the sidewalk.
I buy two breakfast sandwiches, one for me, one for him.
And sometimes they're not even awake and I just place it down in front of them so when they wake up, they've got a halfway warm meal.
But if you get organized where you want to do like 20 at a time and help all homeless,
oh, you're going to get busted by the
town council or something.
And, you know,
it's so stupid.
It is. It's just stupid.
It's honestly
because we do have
immense abundance.
Like all the food that gets wasted.
And look, I mean, homelessness is like
multi-layered problem.
It's mental health.
Wait, let's talk about, I work at a school and they get free food for 420 kids.
And I know that 50% of that food gets thrown in the trash can.
And I have to empty it and throw it in the trash can.
So, 50% of that food just gets
thrown away that's like and I was thinking like man I would take all that food put it out in the
back and put a pig in the back and let him eat the food and then we'll just cook that pig on
at the end of the school year but you can't do that now because most of them are Muslim and they would put up an arms about it.
I can't even save food for a pig.
This is stupid.
I was like Jim Gaffigan.
He's like, a pig is a magical
animal. You feed it an apple
and it makes bacon.
Indeed.
I think the homelessness thing,
I've seen it on the rise here big time.
Before COVID, dude,
there was no one camping in the parks.
But ever since,
shit, dude.
We got our own little skid row in Montreal.
Hey, Grant,
I have a Bible verse for you.
All right.
Deuteronomy 14 you. All right. Deuteronomy 14, 28.
All right.
And so what it says, because all the Jewish people had to go to Jerusalem for the sacrifices or whatever they did.
And in Deuteronomy 14, 28, it says, if the way be too long for thee turn your stuff into money so whatever you want to
bring to sacrifice or eat if you're going to camp and trip turn your stuff into money and then when
you get to jerusalem take that money and buy whatever you need and it says whatever you need for the sacrifices or for the drink or the food or the yayan,
y-a-y-a-n was wine, but then shakar, s-h-a-k-a-r, was whiskey.
It was like, so there's proof that you can turn your money into whiskey when you get to Jerusalem.
And guess what?
They can only buy from Jews.
So the Bible doesn't say don't drink alcohol.
It gives you permission.
There's like three things about alcohol.
So one says in Proverbs,
Woe to him that drinketh wine in the morning and wakes up red eyes in the morning
yeah that's bad so that's abuse right now then you go to use in like second timothy where paul says
to timothy take a little wine for the often infirmities so he's actually Jesus is actually telling Timothy drink some wine because you got
like gut problems or IBS or whatever it was in the day right and then there's a time where
in I think it's Ecclesiastes it says it's not for kings or princes to drink wine well it's like judges of our time it's like no if you're a judge or you're a king
and you're making decisions on people's lives you don't get to drink alcohol because you're in a
high position of authority but the bible never says abstain only for judges or princes. There's use, abuse, and abstain. Well, moderation in all things, right?
Yes, exactly.
So there's never abstain for the whole population.
It's abstain for
judges or princes.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Hey, Grant,
that was the second time I brought up biblical
shit. No, I'm amazed at
your ability to recall.
But I also, I say that, but I actually can't fact check you.
I could, but I don't.
So I trust you.
You got Google, don't you?
Yeah, I got you.
Second Timothy?
Okay.
Wine.
Second Timothy, take a little wine for their stomach.
Let's see.
Go ahead, try it.
This is the Alcoholics Bible.
It's got like a handful of verses to biblically justify your alcohol.
And don't forget Deuteronomy 1428, okay?
You're right.
1 Timothy 5.23.
Use a little wine.
Paul advises Timothy.
Timothy.
There's a name for you Timothy had some bad stomach issues
And Paul said
Hey take some wine
Come on give it over it
And everybody
You know what the first miracle Jesus did
Can you tell me
I'm sure
Yes he did Miracle Jesus did. Can you tell me? I'm sure. Water me wine, yeah.
Yes, he did.
Yep.
Let's see.
There's no abstaining for the gin pop.
We're allowed to drink.
Ooh.
Most notably, Ephesians 5.18 prohibits intoxication.
Quotably, Ephesians 5.18
prohibits intoxication.
Do not get drunk with wine,
for that is debauchery, but be filled
with...
We're in his excess in the King James.
So it says,
they don't get smackers.
What's ESV?
Something version.
Especially, no, I don't,
ESV. You got me there, bro.
What's instead of the King James version?
It's whatever, ES, English, something.
There's like 20 different references.
I just go by the KJV and then I read the other ones
to see what the KJV meant.
English standard version.
Oh, yeah.
King James. Oh, English. Version. Oh, yeah. King James.
Oh, English.
Right.
Well, you know, they're really good at interpreting the Bible.
They got really bad teeth, bro.
All right, let's see what King... Well, who's King James?
Was he...
Where was he from?
King James had 70 different people
to interpret the Bible
and said, let's see what this goes.
But you know that King James
didn't do the five books of the
Apocrypha
because in the
Apocrypha it says,
all kings are shit.
They just do what they want.
Dude, filtering.
That's like first generation
of censorship, you know?
Well, how do those books survive?
Well, when you got the gold,
you can censor all kinds of things.
King James Version said,
and be not drunk with wine,
wherein is excess,
but be filled with the Spirit.
I don't know. I don't think that they're
probably not.
I mean, you know, alcohols.
I guess it depends on how
you carry yourself, but.
I can carry a handle of crown and a
six pack anywhere.
I'll meet you, bro.
A what of crown? A what of crown? A handle?
I can carry a handle
of crown. They don't make handles anymore.
You know that? I figured they don't.
They don't have a handle.
They don't have the purple bag.
Nothing. I feel cheated.
Animal doesn't even know what a handle is,
I think.
I know what the purple bag is
animal i do have a question for you and i don't mean to go off topic
are you still trying to find your stem cells and things like that to help you out i haven't heard
about that in months yeah dude i mean still trying i mean um i'm healed it's a miracle um awesome
there are i kind of want to get more just uh as a precautionary measure against aging and joints
and stuff joints joints aging.
And there's some cool new technology that's come out as well.
There's these new stem cells that they're talking about.
A lot of research has been going on in Mexico.
They're called Muse cells, M-U-S-E.
And these are umbilical cord cells that they're able to uh that they make able to differentiate into
organ and nerve tissue which until now has been off the table for um umbilical cord tissue cells
so they're able to like treat them prep them and yeah did some of that work for you
well i didn't i didn't get those i got the just a regular ones
for my for my joints so umbilical cord tissue and placental tissue it's really good at first of all
it just totally um quenches inflammation like before the stem cells i didn't even realize it
like parts of my body my finger you know my pinky my thumb my ankles my knees they're always inflamed
you know i mean my neck head shoulders toes everything yeah well i'm 40 and i guess like
i did a lot of snowboarding and banged myself up pretty good growing up played football and all
that shit so i have like injuries right you know rolled a couple ankles here there um and yeah i guess i was in i
was inflamed all the time and when i got the stem cells before my shoulder was fixed the first thing
i noticed is that the rest of my joint pain had diminished immensely like it was i didn't perceive
it anymore it felt like and my joints felt my i don't know my fingertips
felt cool i don't know if that makes sense but like and they felt like they were deflating
that's cool um they didn't cause you pain anymore right okay um now
Right.
Okay.
Now, it's been a year since my last treatment,
and it's humid here this time of year,
and I do notice that my fingers swell a bit when I go outside.
That's something I didn't have last year.
Age.
Age.
Yeah.
And the stem cells die like they're only so when you get stem cells like i got like say 300 million injected into me okay uh when they're injected into you first thing they
start doing is multiplying and when they multiply they kind of explode and they create two of
themselves they replicate and they release a whole bunch of explode and they create two of themselves they replicate
and they release a whole bunch of growth factors and these are the anti-inflammatory
cytokines or whatever the fuck like there's all these it's all this jargon right they release
smaller particles of healing healing agents growth factors do they only last for a certain
amount of time that's the thing they only they only divide um for a certain amount of time? That's the thing. They only divide for a certain amount of time.
And depending on how you treat your body, like what you intake.
Nicotine apparently is a huge killer of stem cells.
Alcohol.
Dang, dude.
We're just talking about nicotine being this great cancer cell killer.
Well, yeah, it kills cancer cells, but it also isn't super good for stem cells
um and it they do like nicotine does age you as well like so if you see those guys doing the zins
apparently their faces look a little bit older a little bit quicker maybe that's why people looked
older back in the day right like leathery maybe they say people in the 70s look like way older than they do
today. Now the smokers
look like they're way old.
They look like a conjecture-fraid chicken face.
if you
chew
don't inhale because it hurts your lungs.
Yeah, dip. Yes.
If you dip, you don't get the chicken face.
That's true.
I've seen that.
Dehydration.
Yeah.
So what was it that came out today?
No, I'm doing the Zins.
Vaping is causing cancer or something.
Did I see some announcement that came out today?
I wouldn't be surprised if that's true.
Vaping, I did it for a bit, bit dude and I noticed it's like my cardio
took a hit
vaping gives you hemorrhoids
I have friends that
I think you're doing it wrong
you're vaping the wrong one
my god
yeah
I had to
sorry my god yeah I had to sorry
go ahead
but so what the round you're interested in getting stem cells
only when I need them
that's the best time to get this
only if I need them
trust me if I need them.
Trust me, if I need them, I'm going to talk to you first, bro.
Guaranteed.
For sure.
And you know what? Honestly, I wouldn't have taken them if I wasn't desperate.
My shoulder prior to this was fucked.
Good example of the grift, the unstoppable grift, is when a big topic of discussion in 2004's election
was about stem cells.
And George W. Bush was banning stem cell research in the United States.
And it became this religious thing.
And it's like, what the fuck?
You look at it and go, why would we ever not want to understand a potential miracle?
It was way before stem cells were even a thing.
And he's trying to ban them in 2004.
What was the government trying to hide from us?
No, they were.
I mean, they banned all stem cell research, right?
It's big pharma.
They want to go, okay, we need
to figure out how we're going to monetize this thing.
We know it's a thing. Give us
10 years, right?
So then they put themselves in a position that
they can actually be the ones selling this shit.
It's fucking crazy,
dude.
I'm going to look it up right now.
They wanted the corner of the market to make the most profit i get it
yeah i mean yeah i i know i was watching this podcast today with brian johnson and this uh
i'm gonna pause you real quick just because two weeks ago, um,
a small group of people with a severe form of type one diabetes have been successfully treated with pancreatic cells derived from human stem cells,
embryonic stem cells.
Anyway,
just so you know,
right.
Miracle drug.
Yeah.
Just delayed for no reason.
No, because what? So their, miracle drop just delayed for no reason no because their whole
justification at least on paper
on the surface was that
it would take a border fetuses
they would be part of the supply chain
like a border fetuses
which isn't the case
there are some or they call uh multi-potent or
pluripotent uh stem cells which yeah that come from fetuses that differentiate into organ and
nerve tissue uh but now they've they've the science has come so far that we we don't even
need the fetus anymore we can do it with the umbilical cord tissue so that's pretty wild i didn't i didn't expect that to happen i would rather
them take the umbilical cord from a live baby instead of aborting that thing and taking it
now there's no way like dude i honestly um that idea kind of freaks me out and
part of me thinks that's what was happening on epstein island you know they're doing these
ritualistic things taking the adrenal glands from people or some shit part of me thinks it's not not
like the smart part of me but the part of me that likes to think about things like that um the awake part of you thinks
about things like that well like if i was like a bajillionaire okay and i had my bajillionaire
friends and i discovered hey like if you get this fetus shit and you blend it up and you
stick it in your joints your pain goes away forever you know like I tell my buddies about that shit like I'm telling all you guys about
like
okay
I know
but I would imagine that changes a person and makes them
different
yeah
but don't you think there must be something that
there's a screw loose
with these CEOs
they go well that's cool.
They go, wait a minute. How do I monetize
this thing? It's like, dude.
It's misaligned incentives, right?
They're like, wait a minute.
If we can
cure everyone's pain, chronic pain,
chronic inflammation, then
we're not going to be able to sell as much cancer
medication. We're not going to be able to sell any more
painkillers. That's like a trillion dollar
market right there. A multi-trillion dollar market if they figured out
to cure everyone's pain they would monetize it that's what they're guaranteed they yeah but so
the stem cells are they're a biological derivative derivative. Like they're, they're, they're derived from the human body.
So it's not something, it's not a product they can patent and profit off of.
Is that true?
Yeah.
I disagree.
I disagree.
This is what, this is what I was told.
Your, your manufacturing process is part of research.
And that is like,
you have to disclose to the government
how you do shit like that
with biologics.
There's no secrets there.
I don't know.
They're not allowed to monetize.
They can't take something from you
without your permission
and then go sell it.
Oh, yes, they can. They take your digital ID without your permission and then go sell it. Oh, yes, they can. They take your digital
ID without your permission all the time.
That's not a part of your physical being,
though. What Animal's
saying is, like, since it's from a human being,
they can't monetize
it. They can't patent it.
Like, you can't patent
bacon. You know what I mean?
Try me, bitch.
Yeah, I mean.
No, like, okay.
It's like, you can patent Coca-Cola.
Right?
Like, that recipe you can patent.
But they have seeds that have been patented.
Do you know that?
Yeah, Monsanto and all that shit, for sure.
It's ones they've developed.
It's not something of...
Did you hear Trump wants to bring back Coke
into Coca-Cola?
No, he doesn't.
No, he said cane sugar, bro.
The cane.
Yeah, not cocaine.
It's cane sugar.
Okay.
Close enough.
I sit corrected.
I'm honestly looking forward to it I haven't drank coke in years
I'm not a soda drinker at all
but I'll try that
well they have it in Mexican coke
they use sugar cane
yeah glass bottle Mexican coke
has real sugar in it
it may be sugar beets
I'm not going to lie
I don't know going to lie sugar cane
sugar cane seems expensive
where does that grow?
that grows close to the equator
doesn't it?
what sugar cane?
Cuba
Jamaica and Haiti
but no
the vast majority of sugar comes from sugar beets
and corn now.
Corn syrup.
Yeah, right.
That's the stuff we don't want.
We have too much corn.
We got too much corn.
Anything you take that
gets...
You know if you were a baby bird,
your mom eats the food
and then regurgitates it into your mouth.
When a food has already been chewed up for you and processed, that's kind of what you're doing,
right? You're taking, oh, these potato chips. This is like, is there a difference? I think
there's a molecular difference in like a biological difference in how you digest,
like a high fructose corn syrup versus a more natural, I don't want to say organic, but like a biological difference in how you digest like a high fructose corn syrup versus a more
natural i don't want to say organic but like a a less well let's say you eat a piece of food
that okay wait a minute there are indigenous tribes that they used to chew fruit and then
spit it into a bowl all the ladies would spit it into a bowl and they would take that juice and it would just ferment
but it spit in somebody
else's mouth so you can't
but they would drink and get drunk on that
whatever the ladies did
chewed up and spit out into a bowl
and they would ferment and it would help
the whole tribe
that's some fucking
kinky tribe
no there's monkeys that get drunk on fermented
oranges in South America
there was a video I watched
when I was in college we were cracking
these monkeys were falling out of the trees and stuff
it was so funny
that's why I don't claim
trees when they're drunk
that's funny.
What have you been up to, Animal?
I feel like you've been also a bit absent lately.
Busy?
Yeah.
Keeping myself occupied, I guess you could say.
Playing with my drone.
Hanging out with my family.
Have you seen what the U.S. U.S. government can do with drones?
Animal, you're playing with your drone.
I've seen a video where the U.S. government just puts up this one thing
and they knock hundreds of drones out of the sky.
Just boom.
That is a weapon.
What do I think about that? You've got to find a better drone do i think about that you gotta find a better drone
bro you gotta find a better drone yeah no i've seen videos of what they do in ukraine now with
fiber optic uh communication lines you seen this stuff yo the russians bro so i'm not sure who
started it might have been the russians. They started attaching these giant spools, like these two or three kilometer spools of fiber optics to the drones.
And the drones take off because there's so much like,
was it electronic warfare?
They're jamming and shit.
They can't use radios.
So they have fiber optic cables, a fuck ton of them.
It's a fuckton of them.
I don't know where they get them from, but anyways.
I don't know where they get them from, but anyways.
And so to prevent against attacks, the Ukrainians started doing this as well.
So the Russians now, what they've done is their major, I guess, routes or, you know,
jeeper tank routes and shit.
They've totally encased them in like a net and like made out of fishing line and shit right so like these
these roadways are totally fenced in from the sides and like it's like a spider web basically
looks so they like they have the drones go out and weave this web form no no they they weave the web
themselves to prevent drones from coming in because their ef like their jamming isn't
preventing the ukrainians from from hitting them anymore um it's really crazy what it's done for like frontline warfare this whole
drone thing has made it so that it's like a constant stalemate um like the front lines
you've probably noticed haven't moved much of at all cost in the last couple years. It's like in blockchain terms.
What's the cost to attack?
Nothing.
These drones are a battery
and some plastic.
It's like
it's kind of
I don't want to say it's as bad
as transport.
They can drop drones
at like $100
where they used to
send missiles to
$100,000 missiles to
kill down
$2 million.
Think about this. The Israelis are sitting
here going, we have to bomb
Palestine to
oblivion because they're hiding in hospitals.
Can I give you something, Populist? Sure. die into oblivion because they're hiding in hospitals. Wait, can I
give you something, Populous?
Sure.
Okay, here we go.
What's happening
they do million
dollar drones and then
people come up with like $5
anti-drone
things and just wipe out those missiles that have like 300 or 400 kilograms of silver and they explode.
This is getting like stupid.
Is it silver?
Vehicles of...
Yes, everyone, every
atomic missile has
a kilogram
of silver and it goes vaporized.
Holy shit.
That must pump the price a bit.
Just send up a drone and
just vaporize that drone.
It's stupid. You got
million dollar missiles and somebody can
come up with a $12
drone and drop it this is getting like
stupid why are we wasting so much silver in bombs when they could just drop a little missile or
of a frequency and just drop that bomb this is it's it's getting so stupid that it's right in front of your face people or
our face it's here i go ahead and talk about what i mean you look at good i was i was looking at the
iron dome and how much it costs them to like intercept missiles right um like each missile
they intercept it costs them like i don't know a couple a few million dollars or so
right like i forgot what the numbers were with what the math was but just like a counter-offensive
cost them like billions what i want to say was think they're they're talking about we have to
blow up all this stuff to kill hamas when it's like you couldn't just deploy drones with a simple
plastic printed gun on them and kill the people you actually want to
kill and see their faces on camera before you kill them oh yeah i don't know they probably could do
that but they're they're just making an excuse that they're not doing it i mean they made everybody
beeper man i would love to buy that technology to drop all those drones before
they even drop the bombs. I mean,
I would actually like one of those
little things that just drops
any drone from 15 miles out.
Oh, your own, your own, your own, your personal.
Uh, yeah.
My own air dome.
that's good yeah wrong i want my own iron dome
Oh, that's good.
I want my own air
drone.
but you know if instead of spending all that money on like counter bombs in the iron dome
they just gave like each palestinian a million bucks could they would that come out to less
like say like give him a million bucks that's that's not gonna work if you give a man a fish
you feed him for a day if you teach a man to fish you feed him for a lifetime so don't give
each palestini a million bucks it's like well he's saying a million dollars no i don't know
like a new house and like a new like like brand new everything, a new city.
Just that's not like on Holy Land or something, you know?
I don't know.
Fuck, man.
Like there's got to be a better way.
Michael just annihiling an entire population.
I think Michael Moore said it in Fahrenheit 9-11.
He was talking about, he goes, you know, if, if we spent the amount of money bombing, whatever,
if we spent the amount of money bombing, whatever, that we did bombing these countries and just built a well in every city in Africa that we could find, every village, we spent the money digging a well so that everybody in that village could have fresh, clean water.
Or fresh water, at least, right?
Like, how admired would we be around the world?
And this goes back to what we talked about. You can't
defeat evil with evil. And if you
go out and you actually say, we're just going to use our success to
be compassionate and love the populations of these
other countries, they're never going to agree to fight you.
They'd be like, why would I ever fight the United States?
They gave me, I remember drinking from their wells,
eating their food.
But I don't know.
See, that's when we're starting to sound like
then you start becoming USAID people.
But that's the grift.
You can't do it through government action.
It's got to come from these people that are missionaries
and money that comes
voluntarily.
It has to come from
the heart.
What they're trying
to control with the USD
is populations.
That's not going to work with
other countries.
You can't force people
and if you do they're going to hate you so that's why everybody hates the us aid or us government
because we are shoving that down their throats yeah yeah and i think we're forgetting about how much profit there is to be made in this whole war grift man like how much stock options people have and how much money
they're making just like off the financial side of it right like for sure it's huge it's like the
only thing that they're thinking about the the financial side, governments and grifters and they're down to that.
Stop that.
You can't.
So how do we, okay.
The unstoppable grift to me is this.
Exactly what we're talking about.
And will you identify precisely the problem?
That there is incentive to perpetuate suffering.
Perpetuate.
Suffering.
Whether it's through war.
Or it's through.
People being sick.
Or it's people being hungry.
Or it's people being homeless.
Like.
The game plan.
They profit on suffering.
That's the game plan.
Can we create.
Could we today.
If we decided.
As a humanity. Like, you know what?
Blowing other people up
is off limits.
I think in 1945
the world decided nuclear weapons are off limits.
And that's been a collective
thing around the world.
You know, you don't do this, you don't do that.
You don't kill people.
You don't... Most people think you don't.
Do you think that
when they dropped the bomb,
they killed like
two or three hundred thousand
Nagasaki, two or three hundred thousand
Hiroshima, and
by the way, you know, both those
Nagasaki and Hiroshima
were the biggest Christian populations populations in japan at
the time and they decided to drop the bomb on them because it can make them more money yeah
right yeah because they were a christian population they just they thought they can do that anyway it
this this whole world is really screwed up.
And just about the time you think you got to figure it out, something happens.
Okay.
Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
Do you doubt me, sir?
Would I ever...
Okay, prove me right or wrong.
I hope you're right.
Dude.
While both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were part of Japan,
and thus primarily Buddhist and Shinto,
Nagasaki had significant Christian population, particularly Catholics,
due to its history as a center of early Christian missionaries.
Okay, so still a lot of Buddhists.
So do you think that, am I crazy that they put those two bombs in those two certain cities?
It was just happenstance?
Or do you think they did that on purpose?
Nagasaki was, but Christianity was not.
Or I'm sorry, Hiroshima was not, it says.
Just so you know.
Hey, you guys want to hear some crazy shit?
Yes. Okay. just saying that you guys want to hear some crazy shit yes okay Maureen Comey
daughter of former FBI director
James Comey was fired
Wednesday from the powerful
Manhattan US Attorney's Office
where she persecuted Diddy
Jeffrey Epstein and his
accomplice Gishlin Maxwell
yeah okay
Jimmy Dore just did a thing about this.
And he said that somebody came on his show and said,
the fact that James Comey's daughter is the prosecutor,
we know Diddy's going to not be in trouble.
Like that she does sex trafficking cases, and she loses.
Basically is what her game plan is.
Holy shit.
They protect themselves, correct?
It's a grift. It's the unstoppable grift.
Literally top to bottom.
And so they blackmail each other, right?
We know Diddy was blackmailing people.
Do you guys think
that Trump is not releasing
the Epstein files because
he says,
okay, watch this, guys.
He's all over them, bro, for sure.
Yes. You ever watch
the movie To Live and Die in L.A.?
No, I know the song by...
It's like 1984.
To Live and Die in LA
The whole movie was about
Somebody
Blackmailing people
And then when the movie got over
Nothing stopped
This guy was blackmailing
The same person
That was blackmailing the others
You gotta watch To Live and Die in LA
It's like 1984.
Oh, William Defoe's in it.
You are so right.
And they were washing and drying the money in the laundry and just beating it.
You're so right, animal.
All right, here.
Let's listen to some rap. You ready? This is all about L.A. The Rand. You're so right, animal. All right, here. Let's listen to some rap.
You ready?
This is all about L.A., the rant.
You ready?
Hold on.
Hold on.
I'll look up that movie, though. Oh Okay, hold on a second. Animal. I mean, not animal.
Ran.
Okay, this starts to sound to me like the typical something's becoming interesting and we're going to replace
the phrase to no longer refer to the movie, we're going to replace the phrase
to no longer refer to
the movie we're going to refer to the song
bro can you
play colors
the movie is an action thriller
it's based on a 1984
novel written by a
former US Secret Service agent
who co-wrote the
screenplay
tells the story the lengths to which two Secret former U.S. Secret Service agent who co-wrote the screenplay.
Tells the story, the lengths to which two Secret Service agents
will go to to arrest a counterfeiter.
Now, I'm going to look something up
because I'm curious about this.
Gerald Petivich, he wrote it.
Okay, do you think that he
met an untimely death?
I'm just going to add, I haven't even looked it up.
Who doesn't meet an untimely death. I'm just going to, I haven't even looked it up. Who doesn't meet an untimely death?
Well, he's this U.S. Secret Service agent that wrote a screenplay about Secret Service agents doing some shady shit.
I bet you this guy died young.
I'm going to guess, okay?
Nope, he's still alive. Damn it.
Secret Service, no. nope he's still alive damn it secret service you know damn it were you wrong were you wrong i mean that's you know that's fine you can't be right all the time but like 99 are right? Okay, so let's see. After fooling an assassination. I think you'll be right.
93.5%.
That's taxes.
The other thing is for taxes.
Do you think...
Do you think they're going to let Gissel Maxwell talk?
She wants to testify again, right?
They don't know
you know what if she talks
she's dead
that's fucking
everyone watching
everyone watching she's like
oh she's dead
if she talks you guys know that
right I hope she
talks and
then
if she dies, fine, but I
hope her words go out
there into the universe.
But do you guys know
that when that list comes
out,
everything is going down.
This is so deep.
This is like...
It's both parties, man.
It is.
It's all of them.
It's all parties.
That's why
the whole government is stopping it.
What are you talking about?
Why are you talking about Epstein lists?
This is so old.
This is from Trump. It's like, this is from Trump.
It's like, you guys know when this list comes out,
the whole shit show goes down,
like a hundred years of banking and everything.
That's why they are fighting it so bad.
Oh, here I go.
Talking in, this is bad.
If you guys really don't want the epstein list to come out you want a slow
dying of the money process but if the epstein list comes out it's going to go shit show fast
and we can't even you everybody here that's only three of us everybody here, there's only three of us, everybody here can't even
comprehend
if the Epstein
lips comes out.
Why are you so obsessed with Epstein's lips?
All you talk about is Epstein's lips.
It's crazy, fellas.
We asked for the list to come out but when it comes
out it's gonna be a
fucked up repugnant shit
and you can't even
imagine the world
that's coming out
the public doesn't even care
because it's not on the news
I think it would cause
so many people
to have to quit from high-level positions.
I disagree. I 100% disagree.
Really?
How many people are on that list?
Here's why.
They just won't put on the news.
How many people that you said that we quit
in populist block, you said,
I disagree.
How many people do you
think would just absolutely
just lose their shit?
Hold on.
I mean, if...
Okay, let's say hypothetically
that not everyone
that went to Epstein Island
did anything fucking shit, right?
That's fair, yeah.
Maybe they just hung out, smoked a stogie,
drank some Crown Royal.
That's fair enough.
That's easy.
That's plausible.
But there was maybe like
10% of people that went
there and got adrenal glands
from young kids, right?
And did some fucked up shit.
Eating children.
Eating children.
Plausible than I do. Every one of those people that went to the
island. After they killed him
and eating children,
whatever, I'm just...
You're going to go, like, eating
children, but what happened?
You're going to go the step before.
Well, everyone that's ever been there,
they're going to check, like, the flight logs, all the
staff, right? There's people that catered to the elites. Like, everyone they're going to check the flight logs, all the staff, there's people that cater to
the elites. Everyone there is going to be
implicated.
We have pictures
of Prince Andrew with the girl.
There's a picture.
Everybody's seen it, and nobody cares.
I'm telling you,
nobody will care because the media
will make you not care.
The media will make you not care. I care.
The media will make you not care. You think it would be this big
bomb? I thought we
were the media.
Yeah, yeah.
So, take
Bill Cosby. Go ask people
about Bill Cosby on the street.
What do you think about Bill Cosby? Oh man, I love that show.
I used to watch it back in the 80s. He was always
so funny. People don't think about
he randomly drugged
women to knock them out, rape them
while they were knocked out on his
fucking concoction.
It's like crazy
psychopath behavior.
Like that is so crazy.
As a famous person, he could already go
get laid, but he wanted to drug
women. Do you know, that is so
rampant in the
rampant area
in the pan. But here's the point.
That is so rampant.
The media doesn't sit there and shit on Bill Cosby.
They don't want to cover negative shit, and they would
just bury this. They just would, and they
would be like, they would say something
along the lines of this. Are we still
going to talk about Jeffrey Epstein?
I mean, give it a rest.
That's what they would do to you.
24-7.
Yeah, but we didn't get a resolution.
Look, I understand. When all this comes out, what's going to happen is people...
I'm like a hawk.
I hear them all.
You can't...
Does a confused
person get a resolution?
I don't know.
Ask the Pope. He knows everything.
Yes. Afraid? A confused
person can get resolution.
I'm afraid of a boogeyman. Who's the boogeyman?
You figure it out.
Dude, I've been listening
to that almost daily. Loran, you're lost. Loran, you've been listening to that like almost daily.
The Rand, you're lost.
The Rand, you need to go look something up on YouTube.
Steve Spiros.
S-T-E-V-E
S-P-I-R-O-N.
I know that.
Hey, bro, I know that.
I listen to all
and I believe some...
You know Steve Spiros?
I'm in. You don't know Steve Spiros? I'm in.
You don't know Steve Spiros?
Yes.
Are you sure?
Unless we talked about it here before
and you went and watched it.
It's just a guy who's on the street
interviewing Canada.
And he's an insane person
and it's hilarious.
He's from Waterloo. I don't know so an insane person. And it's hilarious. He's from Waterloo.
I don't know so many insane people.
I follow insane people.
I don't care about tits unless you have three.
Don't worry about it.
And they look at me like I'm a weird.
So, Animal, you've really been watching that all the time.
Hey, you know when people look at me when I'm weird?
I don't care about them.
I'll be fine.
You can listen and it's fine.
It's this video.
Actually, the way I discovered it, it was on Tosh.0.
This was like 2000. oh man, 2010 maybe.
And I went to my friend's bachelor party. We did one down in Florida. And I was telling my friend
about this, how funny this video was. It's this clip I saw. So we pulled it up and we sat there
and just laughed. We watched it over and over just like
this is the most ridiculous thing and then my friend got obsessed with an animal like I'm like
you're talking about listen to it every day he's just like just just couldn't get enough of this
video and he every time I talked to him he'd be quoting the video and shit and I was like it just
probably a year he was he was on this thing so I'm glad to hear
maybe I did the same thing to you
I showed you and now you're obsessed with it
yeah no definitely
I'll definitely see myself
or yeah reciting it
right
to strangers
I'm going to get a transcript
Steve Spiros
see if I can find it.
It's inspiring, honestly.
My name?
Easy going.
I'm confused.
All right, dude.
Here we go.
Here we go. This is so great.
I don't know who you follow.
Okay, ready?
I'm going to read it to you.
Apparently, this is the whole thing.
Go ahead.
Try to do it with
a proper tonality.
Oh, let me tell you my name.
I'm confused because
we're supposed to believe
in the ministry, right?
Is the church
and state supposed to be separate?
I'm confused because I never went to school.
Does a confused person
get a resolution?
I don't understand.
You see, you go like that.
You hold fingers in a cross in front of you.
You have two sticks, right?
And that's how I felt when I was in Waterloo.
Because when I walked in Waterloo and smiled at people,
they treated me like a vampire.
They used the cross and they went like this by not smiling at me.
In Toronto, hey, hi guys. You know me, Steve Spiros. Easy going. Those who know me,
I'm a nobody. You understand? And you can't kill a person with no body. So why am I afraid?
I'm not afraid. I'm afraid of the boogeyman.
Who's the boogeyman?
You figure it out.
I'm getting out of here.
I'm going back to Waterloo where the vampires hang out.
And I'm going to wear my sunglasses at night.
You know why?
Because women show their tits, have short skirts, and then they feel violated when I look at them.
Why?
Because I have sunglasses on and I'm weird.
I'm from Humberside.
Do you wear sunglasses at night?
But all those people who call me a sleepwalker, I woke up.
Now I'm going back to sleep
because I'm committed
because I'm going to be committed in an
isolation room because I'm going to go back
to the ministry and allow them to perceive me as I am a fuck-up.
Goodbye.
And he comes back and goes, hey, Toronto the good.
Look, look at this square.
It was a shithole when I worked here.
Now it looks like New York, Manhattan.
Where are the bums?
There's no bums here.
Toronto doesn't have any bums. But Waterloo, they're creating bums. Where are the bums? There's no bums here. Toronto doesn't have any bums,
but Waterloo, they're creating bums.
They created me.
Why?
I don't know.
Maybe it's the church.
Talk to the Pope.
He knows everything.
I've had it.
I'm going to die.
How can you die on your test?
Oh, wait a second.
I'm going to be crucified for a race.
And then he rips open his shirt.
All right.
I just confused the brand so incredibly.
And this guy fell off the map.
That was the only video of him.
He's a crazy person.
Who is this man?
Is he?
Or was he just having an episode?
It looks like, you know what?
He probably had a normal life.
Had a rough streak at work or with family or something.
Who knows?
And then they got him on medication.
Antidepressants.
But he wasn't depressed.
He was just going through some shit.
And then he became fucking manic.
Because the antidepressants fuck with your serotonin and make you all fucking crazy.
And then he was
institutionalized. You're fucking nuts, bro.
Do you think he's still alive?
What?
I hope so.
I mean, that was like 2000.
Seems like a decent person.
He's crazy.
Heavily medicated or undermedicated. One of the two. Let's crazy. Heavily medicated or
under-medicated. One of the two.
Let's see. Is Steve Spiro
still alive?
I don't know. Look him on Facebook.
He might be one of those guys
like...
You know how you like street preachers?
You went to college, right, Animal?
Man, there you see.
Oh, dude.
Everybody had a preacher.
He's on fucking, he's on Facebook, bro.
No, it's not really him.
Oh, really?
Yeah, there's a preacher.
There was a, when I went to school, we had a guy called Preacher Dan.
Did you have a preacher at your conference?
Yo, we had a guy called Preacher Dave, bro.
We did. Oh, my my god so do you think how'd you know because they all everybody does there's preachers everywhere i make you think about that might make you think a little bit um yes. This guy says back in 2021-22
he was still near the Princess
Theater.
He was like, just make weird conversations
about women and dating
and ask for coffee with him.
Alright, so he might still be in Toronto.
Fuck.
He could make a fortune.
I'll have to look in the L pages.
He could.
Yeah, just...
Oh, I'm so glad I read that.
As long as he doesn't get committed.
That's so funny.
When he says...
When he goes...
He says,
You know why?
Because women show their tits,
have short skirts,
and then feel violated when I look at them.
Why?
Because I have sunglasses on,
and I'm weird.
He's got a level of self-awareness
which is just glorious.
Who am I? I'm confused.
I'm a fuck up. Goodbye.
How do you
kill someone when they're already
dead?
I'm a nobody and you can't
kill somebody with nobody.
Oh wait, I'm going to be crucified, right?
Yeah.
And I don't know if you see the very end. He rips his shirt
off and then he comes back. Yeah, and he says
I'm not going to raise my voice because
I'm committed to the Lord.
You can't make that up.
You can't make it up.
How do you do reverse lookup?
What is it, 411?
I don't know.
411 is the yellow pages here.
I think...
Put someone's name in there?
The animal.
This is the type of thing
that makes me believe in God.
There's no one could write this.
A human mind could never
write this
on a piece of paper and intellectualize
what just spouted out of this guy's mouth.
And it brings you so much
joy and laughter.
And you're just like, oh, it's so hilarious.
This guy's agony probably
is bringing you joy for some fucking reason, right?
And it's only, you can't write it down on paper.
You couldn't do the math.
It's too random.
And that's what makes it funny.
That's what makes it spiritual.
I love comedy.
Obviously, I just called it spiritual.
Waterloo.
I do Spiro Steve.
I like that you're still...
You want to find this guy, huh?
Fuck yeah.
Spiro.
Spiro Steve.
He's in Waterloo.
There's no such person.
He could be making it up, right?
How do we know his name?
Did he even give his name?
He never said his name.
He says Steve Spiros.
Yes, he does.
Oh, he does?
Okay, okay, okay.
I forgot that part.
Hmm.
Hold on.
As of 2023, his identity is still unconfirmed.
Hmm.
Okay, so people have been looking for him.
Yeah, the girl in that.
Remember the guy?
You know the guy who was like the real the real
guy who they based Kramer off of I don't know it is but I do know it was a person and I he had
yeah he had a phone number it was like 1 800 Kramer right you ever hear about this shit no
apparently you can call him a eat
fucking answer and just be pissed off at you it was like bit of a joke was it 1
800 Kramer like by the time I found out about it it had died but 1 800 Kramer
Cosmo Cosmo all Cosmo Kramer.
All right.
I'm about to be.
I told my daughter I was going to hang out with her at 11.
It's 11.02.
I think she's about to walk down the stairs.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah, she stays up late.
I know.
She does.
But all right.
Hey, this was good.
We have no audience.
But you know what man
it is what it is and i i will mention i cake while it's been like weird i've been trying
to communicate with him i've gotten no feedback from him but
well we don't need to do that if i want to do this later we'll add it in so animal are we
going to try to get back to the videos at some point in time yeah we can do that I mean look I really I'm a little
disappointed that we didn't follow up with the AI guy kind of missed that he's
okay he's not gonna worry about it no no but um yeah look if we talk about so
here's the thing man the world's all fucked up, okay?
And, like, I don't necessarily want to have my opinions out there.
Because my opinions, dude, I'm confused, okay?
This is the truth.
I see shit, and it's like one day I see one thing, and the next day it turns out what I saw wasn't really there.
And fuck, like, this whole Epstein thing, dude, dude jesus christ like there's nothing else
like there's a whole bunch of shit happening right like he's uh he's putting uh sugarcane
and coke but who gives a shit about that like we want the fucking list you know what i mean
like this is this is important um and i feel like talking about anything else they're rubbing it in your face
they don't care
they know you know
they know it's a game
they're literally mocking you
why do you think they're rubbing it in your face
just curious
maybe they get off on it
maybe they get off on it
it is a power trip
Because we truly can't do anything to rant
You know
You're right
So we can't do anything
So we accept and then we just deal with it
And then we just gotta figure out
those little motherfuckers are motherfuckers.
That's just me being...
Yeah.
Don't trust them.
Is the third party the answer?
Is that what we're coming to?
I don't know. Brandon didn't like that, but I don't.
Well, I think
there's gotta be some uprising.
This is why when I was talking about a shifting in thinking, same concept, right?
Old Testament, New Testament.
Are they pushing this into an uprising?
Third party's not.
They got us Bill Clinton.
No, but hey.
We're doing this 25 years later.
That wasn't a successful third party.
It doesn't mean you stopped trying.
You know what I'm saying?
Because you're saying just throw up your hands and say, fuck it, we're done.
Right, Rand?
You're muted if you don't know.
I don't know.
I want a resolution.
What I'm saying is just like the evolution
of thinking when I was talking about
Old Testament to New Testament.
You're absolutely right,
but I was filming the grapes in my backyard
because I just...
I couldn't answer you at the moment
in time, but you're absolutely right,
Grant.
They're fucking with us. I was filming you at the moment in time. You're absolutely right, Grant. They're fucking with us.
Yeah.
I was filming grapes at the time and I couldn't answer.
But just like thinking changed, an evolution of thinking,
Old Testament to New Testament, pre-declaration to declaration,
I think in general there needs to be –
I don't think democracies are sustainable.
A democracy will
eventually become socialism
will eventually become communism
and since
we know that's
democracies
are not sustainable
they're not
51% you can kill everybody
you don't
all this is going to be moot when we have AI politicians.
Like AI is going to have the ability to govern us better than anything else.
Like in a real way.
Like we might have like real working.
I don't want to say socialism or communism,
but like a real mechanical system that makes
things just work.
You're going into the
whole world governing global
system and you've got to have a
mark on your forehead that
they're steering us into
this
system that we have to
comply or
die.
This is not the best
thing for humans.
Here we go again.
Go ahead.
I don't disagree, but
I feel like it's
inevitable.
If it's not a fully
AI-governed system,
like a hybrid type of thing... The Bible tells you it's inevitable. a fully AI governed system, like a hybrid type of thing.
The Bible tells you it's inevitable.
No man shall buy or sell.
We're being herded into a mark of the beast system.
And it's going to happen.
And you can't fight it.
And you're just going to survive it.
Who wrote Revelations?
John the Revelator.
Do you want to hear that song no uh john was exiled to the isle of patmas and he got a revelation and that's the from jesus and he gave him
Do you know about John?
John was like put in a bottle of boiling oil.
John, not John the Baptist.
John the Baptist was to be headed about six, three months into Jesus' ministry.
But John, the one that I'm talking about, was actually Jesus' brother.
And he was exiled to the Alipatmos.
He was put in a pot of boiling oil.
And then God gave him the revelation of Revelation.
Really?
And so the whole book of Revelation is from John, Jesus' brother.
And he just saw everything god gave him visions of everything and it was not for your time it was 2 000 years ago but it's really coming to
fruition now you can't even you can't deny that it's it's happening now my friends
deny that. It's happening
now, my friends.
I want to hear
about your preacher
Dan.
What did he do?
He was going campus.
Preacher Dan.
My preacher Dan
and my wife's
preacher dad.
Hold on, guys.
I told you.
I've been collecting. I know about the Dan. Okay. Yeah. Hold on, guys, guys. I'm Daniel. I've been collecting.
What kind of Dan?
I know about the book of Daniel, too.
That's O-T.
Old Testament.
I got this.
Ask your question, my friend.
Rand, Rand, Rand.
You're misunderstanding everything.
I hope.
I'm not.
You're misunderstanding.
He was asking about Preacher Dan, D--a-n that was on my campus but i
gotta go regardless and uh preacher dan was just a person who just preached the ministry on the
campus all day animal you know okay no we we had a guy on our campus he would go around
and show us parlor tricks with cigarettes and shit he was wasted half the time
he'd buy us cigarettes too. He's a pretty good guy.
he used to be a gym teacher.
But he lost his job.
He would buy cigarettes for an underage
population.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I gotta run.
Have a good night, guys.
No, I gotta go too.
Cheers.
Alright, good night, fellas. Good night, guys. No, I gotta go, too. Cheers. Alright, good night, fellas.
Good night, fellas.
Bye.
