You got a lot of background audio there, Wiggle.
Okay, I just got to say, this is freaky how much you sound like you are, like really freaky.
I don't know if I'm going to be able to shake it the whole time.
I think everybody agrees, everybody in the audience already.
I think it's freaking everybody out.
Oh yeah, a hundred percent.
This is kind of like a running gag almost, and I mean, hey, if you think you're freaking
I'm glad that I got the chance to interview you.
No, you know what's funny?
I actually had a couple people hit me up today, and they go, you know you're doing a space
with Elon's burner account, right?
And I was like, how deep has this conspiracy gone?
I think this has actually made its way to other platforms and stuff.
People 100% believe that you are a burner account for Elon.
It's the most hilarious story ever.
I think for me, it's a really good thing.
I honestly appreciate the fact that this has happened, because I think this represents
a scale model of why you literally cannot trust anything that legacy media writes anymore.
I'm basically the story, so I definitely know what is accurate and what is inaccurate.
And then I look at all the inaccuracies.
The article that really started this was published by The Daily Mail, and they scraped a bunch
of information from people who were partially involved in this, one of which was the instigator
to the whole problem that occurred, which then basically led to this big peak of...
I just call it a wavefront.
It's basically led to the peak of the wavefront, which then swept over everything.
And then they put it out there, and they never bothered to contact me to say, hey, whether
Hey, Adrian, are you sure?
What about your side of the story?
They never bothered to contact me ever.
I had to contact them to say, hey, Daily Mail, adjust your article.
And I contacted them by basically putting out a post right here on X, which, yeah, it
was just, I don't know what to say.
And then they hit me up in the end and say, okay, what would you like to have amended?
And I just literally sent them the post that I asked Yvonne to put out.
And then they made probably some changes.
There were still some inaccuracies, but at this point, I really didn't give a shit because
The articles are everywhere.
My DMs had been blown up.
I had to actually step away from X after a bit for there because within 48 hours, I had
essentially doubled my following that I'd built up over a year.
And there were a lot of crazy DMs, like a lot of the big people that I've always wanted
Like they were hitting me up and they were giving me some really interesting stuff.
I found some really cool people, even the Elon alerts account, the person behind it
So it has, I had to go through this entire cycle, make a lot of phone calls, deal with
the IRL stuff that actually step away for a bit.
But now, you know, we are back and we're doing spaces again.
And well, yeah, cool stuff.
So is he cut now or does that mean I can't hear him, he cut out for me, but you can hear
him or you can't hear him cannot, cannot, hey, Robbie, your connection seems to be cut.
We, we, we cannot hear you.
My technical difficulties.
Okay, now I can hear you.
So one of the weird things about having, you know, Elon follow and subscribe to my page
and everything is I've noticed I've gotten a bunch of DMs from people who expect me to
be like his personal business concierge and present their idea to him.
Does that happen to you now too?
Well, that's that has already happened before.
That has happened a long time before, you know, Elon, I get the tech stuff.
The fun thing is I study a lot about the platform and how it works because I personally believe
in the idea of finding not only finding the problems, but somehow finding a solution for
And often the solutions in this case, since I cannot alter anything programmatically about
the platform have to come from the user, right?
You have to say, okay, what can the user do to mitigate this problem?
And so I try to always find solutions for that and then to give everyone these basically
I tell me you probably don't do this, do this.
By the way, why you do this, do this before you do that thing.
Otherwise that thing may break because random.
And then that basically turns me into a type of tech support guy that I get a lot of DMs
And I have this pension for just simply answering them because why not?
Sometimes I just hit people up and say, wait a minute, what you're doing there is about
to do you some real damage.
And they're like, oh, thank you.
How do you know all this?
Honestly, you sound a lot like me.
I mean, I wish I was better at saying no to people and this is not an invitation to go
into my DMs and ask me to help you with whatever idea you have people, but I have a really
bad habit of I can't help it, you know, people, people send me stuff and I just I always want
Yeah, I mean, it's a I think it's just a character thing.
I mean, look at what you've done.
You've always put yourself, say, in the line of fire with the controversy that you've
stirred up with, say, this movie that you put out this documentary that takes a very
specific type of character to do this.
I think selflessness is definitely a trait with that because, you know, I'm pretty sure
you're putting a lot on the line here, right?
Because I mean, I look at your accolades and what you've achieved over time.
Do you think you're still able to function properly, like within your career?
No, no, but I know I knew that, you know, I mean, here's kind of like the condensed
version of the story for me is, you know, my mom came to this country with nothing,
You know, she fled communism.
Family lost everything to communism, everything they ever worked for.
And you know, that's that's a real problem.
You know, there's kind of a running joke.
I wish I could remember his name.
He's the Cuban guy on SNL, but he tells this joke perfectly in every Cuban kid, and I think
probably child of a family who fled communism, like gets this, where, you know, he'd come
home from school and his mom would be like, how was your day?
And if he had any complaints at all, it'd be like, oh, you had a hard day.
Did they steal your freedom today?
It's ingrained in you, you know, what real problems are.
And so growing up in that environment and knowing, you know, sort of what my family
I grew up with with, you know, sort of the beauty of the American dream being this prize
that was given to me for no reason, that I was just I was so lucky to be an American
and that I had this opportunity to make anything of myself.
And I never and this is sort of interesting in the DEI debates and all this stuff going
It was never in my mind that like, oh, my family's Latino.
My mom came here with nothing.
I have this background that means I can't achieve things like I feel like when I was
growing up, the mindset was very different.
It was like we live in America.
And I convinced myself of that.
And so, you know, once I made it in Hollywood and had directed all these big stars and stuff,
when I started to see the signs that our country was veering into dangerous territory, where
it really looked like this modern form of communism that was starting to blend together
and embed itself in our institutions and in entertainment and all over, it was a very
simple decision for me, honestly.
It was that, you know, hey, if people like you don't go out there and try to tell the
truth and try to do the right thing, it's going to be impossible in the future for your
children and grandchildren, too.
And there's nowhere else to run to like my family could come to America from Cuba.
There's not some other place all of us can run to if America is entirely ruined by this
woke ideology that has really morphed into a modern form of communism.
And so, you know, in the making of all this or the choices to leave and be honest about
my political beliefs and everything in my sort of beliefs about what our country is
going through, I wish I could say it was like this hard thing where, you know, it was it
But in my head, it was easy.
And I have to say one of the most freeing things for me is one of the biggest worries
I hear from other people where they go, oh, well, I'll lose friends.
I'll lose, you know, these these business deals or whatever.
For me, it was so freeing to know who really cared and who had your back and who didn't.
And to to have the clarity of realizing that in those types of worlds and environments,
so much is sadly built upon how people can ladder climb with you.
You know, like, how can you advance me?
How can I get proximity to fame and success?
And all of those things truly in the end are toxic.
And I don't know if this is because I just had a brilliant great grandfather.
But he told me very young, you know, that the measure of joy is think about your deathbed
What are the things you're going to care about?
And I realized very early on in my career, it was none of those accolades, none of those
things like I never even showed up to award shows where I won awards in Hollywood.
I thought it was a toxic, you know, deal filled with people who are way too narcissistic.
So, you know, I think it's sort of an easy paradigm shift for me.
But my hope is that even if the road is hard or difficult in any way at certain points,
it makes it easier for people behind you.
So basically, you've embraced this kind of a shift because you think that your life is
best like you're your your talents are best of trying to basically defend this country
that has allowed for you to live an amazing existence.
You want to defend what is essentially allowed you to live an amazingly free way because
of what you because of what your family knows to be like, sorry, I'm tripping over myself
I think you're actually you've got to kind of write on, you know, I'm willing to do anything
for what this country has given me and for the hope and promise of what it can give other
people because we don't have to be this sort of dystopian reality that we've become and
are veering out toward, which is going to get darker and darker if we don't defeat this
woke ideology, which we really tried to put into one film here and at least in the sense
of how it affects children so that people can can get really, you know, the whole picture
and understanding that this is a war.
This is not just a bunch of coincidences going on.
There's money behind this.
We're benefiting in many different ways, both politically and monetarily.
And you know, we have a duty as the adults to do something, anything.
And for me, it was very clear that it was like, you know, would I be happy if I died
I mean, the only reason I would say no is because I I'd miss my kids and my wife but
But besides that, you know, if I was just looking at like what I've been able to do
in life, I could die happy tomorrow.
And so if the rest of life is risk taking in terms of professionally, you know, if it
makes it easier for the next people and it makes it more likely that our future as a
country looks like one where there is an American dream that people can chase after and come
from nothing and have, you know, their family start with absolutely zero, less than zero.
You know, my mom didn't even speak English.
You know, I want my kids to grow up in that country.
And right now, that's not the country that they're growing up in.
Yeah, yeah, this is true.
I've had there was a 81 year old veteran here on this platform, I still cannot fully understand
how he got x to work, bro is like more intelligent than Lulu, that's on for sure.
I'm not sure if you heard him, but his name is William.
And he tells us quite often about this exact thing that basically the country has changed
so much beyond recognition.
This thing is he speaks a lot about his experiences and what things were like in the hopes that
basically things could be not just as they once were, but potentially even better if
we were to look at the past and mistakes we've made along the way.
But with that, even I'd like to kind of segue into how things are built up.
Now, when I watched your documentary, there was this there was this moment where you interviewed
someone and they stated how far this was going back to like how far in history this this
This is the Playboy era era, right?
When you like in the 1940s, 1920s and such, when do you think is the earliest instance
of say the downfall beginning?
Well, I think, you know, that's difficult to track for for one reason, because it's hard
to track the influence of ideas.
And ideas are where so many things start, and they can be the most beautiful and the
most evil of things, you know.
And so if you if you really track the ideas that made their way into what we're facing
in reality now, they probably go back hundreds and hundreds, if not thousands of years.
And down the line, you know, it gets sort of filtered into a new version of those ideas.
And that's almost to say that, you know, we're not seeing anything new right now.
We're just seeing modern versions of things that have happened in the past.
And, you know, unfortunately, you know, they say that the winners get to write history,
but that's not always the case.
I mean, history has a way of bending toward, you know, whoever takes over certain institutions,
not necessarily the winners overall.
And so if you seed certain grounds, it becomes fertile ground for Marxist to be able to really
And so you see this in every every country where communism or some form of it has come
to be, or very like authoritarian totalitarian government that is, you know, extremely difficult
on the lives of a significant number of people in the country.
It's never happened in a happy country.
And one thing you'll find consistently throughout history is that it always comes along with
having to replace parents with the state.
OK, so if you go back and you kind of go through any country where this sort of thing
has happened, you will find in every instance some way the state tried to separate children
In Cuba, you know, they took over education early on and they actually had kids incentivized
to report on their parents.
Well, what did we see recently during covid?
We had kids actually told to report on their parents during covid if their parents were
breaking covid guidelines, you know, in some local locales in some states.
And so you already see little pieces of that now.
But then you also see all the ways the state is interfering in many different levels, whether
it be, you know, like the case in the movie that we talk about with the young lady named
Yaeli, who, you know, for those who haven't watched the documentary yet, Yaeli was going
through serious mental health issues.
And as a result, her mom was concerned she went to the school.
The school's answer to these issues was introducing her to the trans club at the school and did
not tell the mom this, did not tell the mom anything about this.
The young girl was convinced then that she had a gender identity issue.
Social media also helped reinforce that idea.
And when it finally was presented to the mom, it was presented without the knowledge of
And so the mom immediately, you know, starts to take action and wants to get her help.
So she has somebody to talk to and everything.
But in the process of that also says that she's not going to transition her daughter
And she's not going to call her a boy.
She thinks she needs to see somebody and talk to somebody and get help.
Well, the state of California stepped in and they took Yaeli away from her mom.
And when they did that, they full bore went forward with the transition.
Now fast forward, you know, a couple of years, Yaeli calls her mom.
This transition's been ongoing.
State is still, she's still in state care.
Yaeli calls her and tells her that she wants to detransition, but she's scared of what
the, you know, feedback is going to be from, you know, the people in the state care as
well as, you know, the people who've been quote unquote caring for her throughout this
Well, shortly, just a day later, she, the mom gets a phone call that Yaeli threw herself
in front of a train and had died.
And so, you know, that's just one of sadly many examples where the state is interfering
in the role of the parent and the state does not know best.
In fact, if you look at like even how the state has gotten in the middle of education,
for those who don't know a whole lot about how our education system works in America
when it comes to public school, we have a federal department of education, but we also
have state departments of education.
Anybody who is intrinsically, you know, involved in the inner workings of business can tell
you that having a duplicated department is never a good thing because when you have too
many cooks in the kitchen, people are pulling in different directions and bad things start
And that's essentially what we have in the U.S. and ever since we've had that sort of
We've had nothing but problems and performance in public schools have gone down.
And it's a big reason why I'm such a big believer in school choice in our country so that, you
know, the tax dollars follow the kid and the parents make the choice of what school's best
That's also something that we should have as sort of a cultural priority in our heads
because, you know, if you're a sane human being that lives in a big city or just around
a big city and you don't agree with the stuff happening in the schools, well, you know,
why should your tax money be forced there for your kid to be indoctrinated with ideas
that you don't really, you know, fall in line with?
And essentially they're taught to hate the values you're teaching them growing up.
And on top of that, they're not academically rigorous in any way.
So that's getting a little bit off the path of where we were going with this.
But, you know, I think hopefully all of that kind of answers the question.
How do you think something like that could be done?
So like basically personalize, like to customize school systems to the individual to an extent,
how do you think that could be done?
So there's a multitude of ways.
I mean, there's I have some crazy ideas about how you could do this that would be like really,
you know, it would be an experiment.
But if we don't want to experiment, we just want to say, what is best for kids?
The best person to answer that is going to be their parents.
So what we're doing right now in Tennessee actually is really interesting.
We're trying to get a bill passed here, myself and a group called Americans for Prosperity
And that bill, essentially what it'll end up doing is take the $7,000 a year that's
earmarked per child, and it will just say, hey, parents, you decide where you want to
send this money to what school.
Okay, so I have three kids.
For my three kids, I would get to decide where that $21,000 collectively for all three of
Is it going to go to the public school?
Are they going to go there or am I going to send them to a private school where maybe
the cost for all three of them is 28,000.
So I need to make up the difference of 7,000 instead of needing to pay 28,000 myself.
You're letting that money flow back.
And that's money that, by the way, we paid into, we pay into with our taxes on a year
And there's some people who their argument to that is they'll say, well, that sounds
But if you make a certain amount of income, you're essentially too rich and should not
And I think that the simple answer to that is those people are paying more in taxes.
If somebody's paying, you know, let's say $60,000 a year in tax or $80,000 a year in
taxes to say that their child is no longer entitled to the money that has been paid in
an earmarked for their child is kind of insane.
It's essentially making the argument Obamacare made, which was that if you are exceptional
in any way and you do well, that you should have to pay for other people's health care
insurance who do not, which just fundamentally makes very little sense to me because I think
that there's much better ways to do things.
And I think on an overall, you know, this is definitely off topic, but, you know, we
don't really have a health care system in our country.
Anyway, it's really a sick care system because the wrong incentives are there.
So that's to say, like all these systems, if you want to change them, you have to think
a little bit outside the box.
And I think with school, that's the simplest outside the box way to do it is to say, let's
take this money we're spending at public school per child and just attach that dollar
figure to the child and tell the parent you decide where it goes.
And then from there, what you're going to see is like, so think about, you know, sort
of second order effects, these cascading effects that happened afterwards.
So the biggest thing you're going to see from school choice is the cultural effect it has
over 20 years on things like crime statistics, outcomes, how much money people make, you
And I think what you're going to see is just amazing stuff from a moral level to a financial
level and everything else, because essentially, when you do something like this, you take,
let's say it's 30% of kids leave the woke public school, okay?
And some public schools are going to have nobody leave.
But let's pretend it's 30% who leave a woke public school.
And they now go to a school that's in alignment with their parents' values.
That's 30% of kids who are no longer indoctrinated.
Yeah, yeah, makes perfect sense.
There's actually something interesting.
So I grew up, well, to a certain extent, I grew up in Switzerland.
And they actually had something similar to this where you could say go to a specific
school and then you could have your experience be customized right down to the diet.
Unfortunately, however, that never took place.
You could customize the diet, you could do exactly this.
And then the contract is drawn up and signed under the specifics that you had specified.
But then nothing ever happened in that regard.
Nothing of that was ever rendered as a service and thereby the contract was rendered void
and was an interesting lawsuit.
This is also the reason why since the age of six, I hadn't seen the inside of any educational
institution ever up until a point, which is now, which I'm about 22, 23.
So yeah, I basically taught everything myself by just looking up stuff on the internet and
what else because there is stuff there.
You just look at whatever is missing in your head and you just start in-depth research
and you'll practically learn everything.
The only problem then is to say have money to buy studies and such like that.
That's the only real barrier to entry there.
I once went down to rabbit hole of nutrition and I spent like $5,000 US in a month just
to understand all of it because you buy studies on it, which is kind of stupid, but it works.
So I guess with that, what I'm trying to say is how exactly do we make sure that the actions
are indeed executed upon, right?
We need some accountability.
So how do you think accountability could be assured?
I think you're going to see that in the educational outcomes themselves.
You know, like we have literacy tests and things like that.
Like you're able to see sort of what these outcomes are year over year.
So I do think you're going to see some change there.
And honestly, you know what?
One of the beautiful things that's going to happen from this is, is that if you live in
an area where the public schools are underperforming, then you're essentially bearing market pressure
down the same way you do to make businesses better.
Because what happens if you're a school and you lose 30% of your students and no other
public school is losing anywhere near that amount?
Well, it's telling you you're not doing a good enough job.
And you want that money back.
You want those students back in your school.
You need to perform better.
And so if that year you decide, you know what, we're cutting the BS.
We're not going into any of these political, social topics that really are not our business
We're going to go back to the basics and hit the things that really matter and focus on
advancing these kids and their intellect on a broad scale.
And let's say in two years time, you flip all the scores in that school to be fantastic.
Well, word is going to get around.
There's going to be news stories about it.
People are going to return to your school.
You know, so it's really, you know, one of the best things you could say about how do
you keep accountability is the fact that parents want the best for their kids, right?
On a broad scale, at least, there's always going to be some bad people who don't want
But let's say generally, most parents want the best thing for their kids.
So that money is naturally going to flow to the places to perform the best, the same way
it does in the electric vehicle market.
You know, the money flows to Tesla because they're doing the best job.
You know, and it's it's that's just a reality everybody sort of is able to see and it doesn't
matter if you like one car better than another or whatever.
If there's somebody in here who has another electric car, the reality is, on an overall
business scale, Tesla performs the best.
And so, you know, that's the reason why.
So basically voting is basically attributing power by by money in that sense, just like
You'd have to have a free market.
That's basically what school choice does, is it creates free market for education to
Because honestly, let's think about this real quick.
Public schools have not had any pressure to be better from outside forces, OK, because
it doesn't matter how loud I as a parent am about the things I want to see different.
If the school is guaranteed the same amount of money or more every year, they have no
incentive to change, none, because I'm going to be gone eventually.
My kids are going to age out.
So why did they care what I think?
You know, they only need to care what I think if my money has power to them.
And that's every business in America.
If you're if your money has power to that business, what you say matters to them.
Unfortunately, in the public school set up right now, my words as a parent don't matter
And that's that's why, you know, myself and AFP and these other places have been working
so hard to get school choice passed in so many places, because I really do think we're
going to look back at school choice like 20, 30 years from now.
And we're going to think that was the generational civil rights fight of our generation and what
made the next generation better.
Because if we're going to compete on a global scale with countries who are prioritizing
their kids' education and are making them the best, we have to change something.
Because if there's one thing that's undeniable to everybody on every side of this debate,
we are not good enough in America at educating our kids anymore, period.
And we need to be better.
Yeah, this is really true.
I mean, I look at the standards of other countries, like say, for instance, I mean, this may this
may sound exceedingly controversial, but I mean, China, look at China, for instance,
their education system, I believe, has a higher quality than that of America.
And this is also reflected their academic ability, and also with the content that they
There's a lot of interesting things.
And you've outlined this as well.
There's like a section of the documentary where basically social media and the digital
A lot of people are addicted to the digital world, and I understand exactly why, right?
Because information is amazing for one way or another.
Some information is actually constructive and yields utility when internalized and understood.
But other information is just they're designed to basically reward hack, right?
Farm for dopamine, like, say, TikTok, for instance.
And they actually been trying to actually put a limiting factor on this to make sure
that basically children do not lose their minds in the sense, right?
And even if you look at the Chinese version of TikTok, they do again, you'll find that
the video is on there are a stark contrast to what you'll find in TikTok internationally.
Like I've had a look at this myself, I've used it myself just to understand what is
And if you leave that site, you actually leave with an enriching experience in a naturally
turn the device off because it doesn't try to farm you as heavily, right?
You say, OK, I think if I had enough of this today, you're done in about an hour, and then
you come back to it another point if you want an enriching experience, right?
Yeah, that's exactly right.
That's why we featured in the movie, because I don't think a lot of parents here recognize
that social media looks vastly different in a place like China, not just because of censorship,
but because when it comes to the youth, they want to only feed them enriching things that
are going to make them more intelligent and thereby make China a more powerful, enriched
country in the future monetarily.
And so if they think about it from the financial aspect and both the social aspect, that's
They don't want degeneracy.
They want people to produce and produce more and more and compete and beat the other countries.
And you're absolutely right that unfortunately, at this point, China is outperforming us when
And if that continues, there's going to be all these cascading issues that come as a
result of it for the United States.
If we continue down this path where we're getting beaten by them in the education realm,
we need to make sure that we're producing students that are high quality and a high
enough number where we can compete with anybody at any time and ideally be able to crush them.
Not because we need to crush them at every turn, but because every great country should
You should want your country to be the best.
You should want to be able to crush the competition because that moment may come where you need
to and you always hope that doesn't happen.
I am hopeful always that peace will be the outcome in any situation, but you want your
country to have that power.
It's part of what allows greatness is for there to be a certain respect for your abilities,
Oh, yeah, it makes a lot of sense.
I think the same kind of philosophy is also represented in their technology and their
For instance, if you go to China, you'll find something really interesting and that is that
ideas around there are very cheap, but the execution is everything.
Even the seer of TikTok himself has said the same thing because the idea for TikTok actually
came from another entity.
They just simply took it and did it better.
The idea is that basically ideas are cheap and execution is everything and as such, if
you have the best execution, you are the most deserving of the reward that comes from
Not just because, hey, I have a patent on this and I do this and I have that.
Well, it would be nice if you get licensed ideas, but at the same time, I think execution
to always be prioritized.
Right now, we want some sort of thing that is equity and inclusion and whatever and whatnot,
but the execution really yields the exact opposite of those exact goals.
If you look at DEI, for instance, as an idea, it makes a lot of sense, but when you look
at it from a level of execution, it does the exact opposite of what the idea is supposed
I mean, the one part of DEI that's broken from the very beginning is the equity part
because equity in itself doesn't make sense the way that equality does.
Equity would say that when I was a child, being the child of a Latina who came here
with nothing and didn't speak English, that I needed a special boost over other people.
I fundamentally not only disagree with that, but honestly, I find the idea kind of racist
in itself that that would be the case.
I think I was just as capable as any other kid in school and it's really a matter of
how you apply yourself and what you do and everybody has individual circumstances.
You can be a rich kid and you have an extremely abusive parent and you don't get sleep and
you have difficulty being able to do your studies in a way that I didn't when I was
From the outside looking in, somebody might say that kid's privileged over me, but I really
think we don't all have the vantage points of understanding people's individual situations.
It applies this standard on an overall based on generalizations that don't work on an individual
level and it also assumes things about people's capabilities that I think are just wrong,
but equality is basically saying, hey, I'm preaching equality on the point of education
because I want kids to all be entitled to a great education, not to be stuck in some
failing school like a place like Baltimore where you've got this massive percentage of
kids graduating high school illiterate.
That should never happen in the United States of America.
It's only possible because those kids are stuck in those schools and their parents do
If you don't have money, you're stuck in that school and you're going to continue the same
pattern of terrible outcomes.
That would be my criticism of DEI off the top rope is equity in itself is a very dangerous
dystopian Marxist concept because it erases the individuality of the human being.
I don't think there's anything more important on a judgment level in terms of abilities
and things people can do than really judging them as an individual and their choices, their
character, their abilities, things along those lines.
In essence, what you were saying though about this, I think it's mostly right that how things
work in reality is what matters.
I think that's the core of your message there.
That's something that, again, when we go through the movie, The War on Children, throughout
it is an undercurrent of what we're looking at where we're like, okay, the argument being
made about these issues, whether it be gender identity or the pharmaceutical industry or
ESG in the business realm, whatever issue it may be, there's this flowery explanation
that can be given to you.
It's your choice whether you buy that flowery explanation or whether you look at reality,
face it, and see how this is truly affecting people in practice because I used this explanation
a long time ago to like explain, I was talking to a group of young people and they were like,
what's the best way you could explain politics?
I said, the best way to explain politics is to tell you that 100 Republicans voted against
the bill that the if you love puppies vote yes bill.
I'm going to blast that through the media, 100 Republicans voted against that bill.
That must mean they hate puppies, but in reality, the inside of the bill was a bill to euthanize
That's why they voted against it, but nobody runs that part.
They don't explain that part, but a very crafty, clever person decided to name it something
entirely in opposition to what the bill actually meant.
That's really the end of this.
The reality of how it affects people is what matters.
You've got to be careful making a judgment based off of a title or off of a word that's
I mean, exactly that is the reason, the logic behind the saying, don't judge a book by its
I'm not sure when exactly it has gone out of fashion to basically take that statement and
apply this to say any situation to take that situation with a grain of salt, right?
As we also say, so I mean, it's just it's very mystifying.
The same thing also applies to responsibility because it also cuts into this.
Right. We live in an age where a set group of people who themselves have no
responsibility whatsoever are stating that the responsibility of a certain thing like,
say, raising a child or, say, regulating a technology was like, I'm sorry, utilizing
technology as it is intended to be used is somehow in need of regulation that you need
to regulate this because people are not responsible enough.
Like that, I think, is one of the prime problems and why we're seeing these issues, why
something such as ESG exists.
Right. Because, I mean, it is designed to essentially give accountability to companies
to prevent certain things from happening and to give the disadvantaged a chance to
Right. But at the same time, this is something that is that needs to be that this is a two
And one needs to have the ambition to try and proceed to pursue this path.
And the other needs to seek a person that is pursuing this path.
And you meet in the middle. That is how you find a job.
Right. You do a bunch of stuff.
You demonstrate utility and then it doesn't matter who you are, what you are, where you
came from, what your history is, whatever, whatnot.
You go to a certain place and they say, OK, do you have the qualifications?
You meet these standards. Cool.
We'll let you in. You know, to judge on anything other than merit is a big problem.
I think there is the responsibility element and how somehow legislation is supposed to
be superseding personal responsibility.
Right. That we're somehow incapable of this.
Yeah, I think I think people, honestly, I think people run away from personal responsibility
And I think that if you look at sort of the state of the world, if you could identify
one thing that you could fix, it would really be that because if people took personal
responsibility more often, we wouldn't be anywhere near the situation that we're in as
a planet or as as the human race, frankly.
I think I think it would be a good time to actually go to audience questions a little
bit as well as, of course, we would want to have further discussion probably on something
we haven't addressed before.
Absolutely. You know, I would just I would say with the film, you know, happy to answer
any questions people have.
Bringing up a bunch of people right now, we're going to have a person named Robert
Scoble on the stage as well, who is a very, very vocal advocate for technology, especially
AI technologies and whatnot.
Actually, it's more on the side of, you know, give the give the child your device.
Right. But also if the content is good.
My dad parenting skills are legendary.
My kids are going to read on YouTube.
So this is an interesting topic and it's one I've talked to many, many of the world's
brilliant people about, you know, you know, if you if you are rich and you live in
Palo Alto, for instance, you're surrounded by people who build companies and do and build
That alone gives you a leg up over many people.
You also probably have access to a private jet if you live in part in some parts of Palo
Alto. That means you can go places and see things and learn things.
My kids have been to JPL where they make the drones, the rovers that are on Mars right
now. Right. Many kids don't have those advantages.
So I'm attracted to this idea of opening up school choice.
But in reality, it leads to a lot of crazy shit happening, too.
We know many parents in the world are into religion and want their kids to have freedom
of religion or freedom of the parents' religion.
Right. So expand on that.
What do you mean by that?
How do you keep society from just being moved around for religious reasons versus I
totally agree, you know, we should close down schools that aren't performing and move kids
to schools that are or fund the schools to get better teachers into them to get the kids
kid. How do you see that all working out, particularly with the because there's some part
of the people I talk to are really into school choice because of their religion.
Some people are really into school choice because they want their kids to have a better
education. I think we all want our kids to have better education.
How do you how do you rectify those two points of view?
I think you actually identified something very important about why school choice is
great, because whether you want a great education for your kid or whether you want them
to be in alignment with your religious values, you know, that's that's a parent's call to
make. And I think that, you know, in the end, the way I think about it is like, what does
the government do? Well, very few things.
I mean, they're good at taking our money.
That's that's the one thing I'll give them. They're fantastic at that.
Outside of that, you know, what have they done an exceptional job at?
And it's hard to identify something right now that they're doing a fantastic job at.
And not just under Biden, but I'm saying just in total, like the federal government in total
does a really terrible time of serving the people's needs.
And the reason for that is because they were never really intended to serve everybody's
needs on a state and local level.
That's why we have local and state government.
And I'm a big believer in, you know, the the more local you can get with things, the better
outcomes you usually have because of the fact that they know the needs of that locale.
But, you know, when you look at this overall, if you're able to sort of provide a win to all
parents and kids, and at the end of the day, if I told you the outcome is that education
improves the outcomes by 20 percent overall, does it really matter if some people make
the choice to take their kids to a religious school?
Because at the end of the day, our public schools in many segments of the country have
essentially become, you know, these places where they're teaching a new religion, a very
politically charged religion that, you know, in itself has all of these required
attendances to protests and rallies and all types of things.
I mean, you can go on and on and they feed an ideology into there.
So, you know, one ideology versus another, I think, you know, it's not really a call to
government should get in the middle of.
And if we can return people's tax money to them, that's already earmarked for their child's
education. You know, it's really it's their choice.
They do with it. I believe in trust.
Parents will generally not always, but generally the vast majority of the time, choose
what's best for their kids, future life and outcomes.
And for me, that would be making sure that it's academically rigorous.
You know, all of my kids, I'm I'm lucky to have done well in life and I can send them to
private school and they're all straight A students.
Some of them have skipped grades and that's a byproduct of their hard work.
You know, they've worked hard in school.
They've also had a good school and good curriculums to work with.
And that is an advantage, but it's one that we can give other kids, you know, if we just
empower parents by giving them their money back and say, hey, you go choose what's best
for your kids. So that's kind of how I look at it.
I don't want to dig too deep in like, you know, there's obviously people who will send
their kids to a religious school.
That's a religion that I don't practice and I don't believe in.
But again, their kids are not my kids, you know, and it's their tax dollars at the end of
the day that's earmarked toward that child.
I kind of want to give them the choice to choose what's best for their family.
The problem is we have the separation of church and state in our country, right?
And putting tax dollars into a religious school, that's support of a church.
It's a hard one to rectify.
And if you're taking a God view of USA or any country, do you want your country to go
completely into a religion and be indoctrinated into a religion?
And my mom belonged to a religious cult up in Montana, right?
Do you want your kids to do it's not your kids.
Do you want society to go that direction?
So one thing that's important to clarify is there's a lot of mistaking what separation of
The separation of church and state, the intention of, you know, the founders is
essentially this, the government should not dictate to religions or religious schools or
operations or whatever what their standards need to be or what they need to do or what
It's not that the government can never be involved with a religious anything.
I mean, look no further than like, you know, Catholic charities, which are taking massive
amounts of money from the U.S.
government to house migrants, which is something I fundamentally disagree with, not
because they're religious entity, but because what they're doing is essentially aiding and
abetting the mass importation of people who are coming here illegally.
And I don't think that that's helping our country.
But in terms of religious crossover, there's plenty of it in many different areas because
separation of church and state is not a line that's saying, you know, they can't touch
each other. It's one saying that the government can't control religious institutions and
can't go in and sort of act as an arbiter of what they're allowed to believe or practice.
Obviously, within certain lines, you can't go doing human sacrifice or something like
that. But it's a general broad line as to that.
And so I don't worry about that so much.
The only way I would worry about it is if the government as a byproduct of school choice
said, oh, now we feel like we have the right to tell you what you're allowed to believe
in or what you're allowed to.
Oh, you have to use our curriculum.
That should never be the case because the school is having great outcomes.
Say it's a private Christian school is having great outcomes.
The government should never be in a position where they can tell that school, you can't
teach this curriculum anymore.
If you're getting fantastic outcomes, you know, and by the way, I mean, it'd be ludicrous
for them to do that, given the fact that the curriculum they've been pushing on public
schools has been atrocious for over a decade.
So, you know, and I think that's sort of a secondary problem here if you got into education
is the curriculum itself is the largest problem because you said at the very beginning of
this, you know, what about, you know, hiring better teachers?
Well, the reality is we've hired a lot of really good teachers into public schools.
And in many times, the administrators and the people who are setting the agenda saying,
hey, we're actually going to spend time on these other areas instead that are a large
part of the problem. And then there's obviously teachers who try to be activists in the
classroom and stuff like that.
There are some great teachers out there who are just handcuffed by curriculums that they
know are bad and that the school or the school district or the, you know, education
department are just, you know, they're not listening.
They're not being responsive in any way because they don't need to be.
Hi, Robbie. Great to have you in the movie.
There is a frequent reference to they and who are they exactly when you were filming
a movie, gathering data, were you able to form a perspective on the source of this
movement? Who benefits the most and what is the root cause of this intent?
I would say it's it's a matter of being specific, though, because we use it interchangeably
with things that we are explaining.
So in one context, I could be talking about pharmaceutical companies and then we say they
were referring to them as an entity.
So if you look at the very beginning of the film, you know, there's this sort of like web
behind us that shows how, you know, this battle plan is all weighed out and has all these
different entities from pharmaceutical companies to nonprofits that are truly activist
organizations that use their nonprofit status as a front to push their activism.
And then, you know, you've got all the different government institutions, entertainment.
You know, this goes on and on, medical, so on and so forth.
And so, you know, in each section, when we would say they, it's in reference to whatever
that topic or person or company we were talking about.
So at one point, we're talking about Target and Walmart, I believe, and we're saying they
were referring to them. So it's a matter of being specific to each one of those things.
But if you're looking at sort of like what is the larger global conspiracy here, you know,
I would say look no further than places like the World Economic Forum, because you can
identify a lot of the bad actors within places like the World Economic Forum.
People like George Soros do pump a lot of money into these different causes that then
downstream spend the money to continue the infiltration of the ideas that we exposed in
this movie. And so you've got a number of different figures, but it really does go on
and on. It's, you know, we found very early on one of the things that was crazy to us as
we were like, how are we going to condense this into a film?
Because, you know, it's it's incredible the amount of data and information we had.
I think in unused footage, we probably have like 50, probably 50 hours, maybe 60 hours
of footage that's unused. And we plan to release a bunch of the interviews that didn't
make the cut into the movie on their own over the next few months.
It's an incredible amount of footage, but we want people to have access to the full
interviews who want to go deeper on a specific subject.
So, like, you know, we we went really deep on, you know, the history of, you know, how
law fair essentially to make a lot of these things happen.
And that's the section where we get into how Playboy and Hugh Hefner intersected with
Alfred Kinsey and Kinsey, you know, sort of the godfather of a lot of these, you know,
sexual ideas that we're seeing play out today and very sick, very sick individual.
You know, he's the one who went into the prisons and, you know, interviewed pedophiles
about, you know, raping children and then used that to try to extrapolate, you know,
that everybody was a sexual deviant and that, you know, we needed to be more accepting
essentially of sexual deviances.
And in that, I mean, we go so deep on the history of the law fair and all of the different
It's probably a two hour long thing by itself.
And so we'll release that eventually as well.
So anybody who wants to dive deep on a specific topic or like, you know, the lady
Keelan Washington, who is just so brave, that survivor of human trafficking.
She was trafficked as a child over a thousand times online.
That interview in total is probably close to two hours as well.
And so each one of those things, you know, we'll end up putting out there eventually so
people can go deep on each subject.
Is there a trend in degree of wokeness in public schools between state and federally
You broke up a little for me there.
Is there a trend between state and federally operated schools in, I guess, degree of
Yeah, I would say there's definitely a trend that it's getting worse and worse year over
year and education outcomes are getting worse and you're seeing worse mental health
outcomes and things like that.
But in terms of like what do they all have sort of similarly going on, it's a lack of
focus on core subjects and instead moving over to, you know, broad topics that can sort
of be umbrellas for a lot of activism like social justice, you know, because social
justice can really mean anything.
You know, it doesn't have a definition everybody can agree on and say, oh, it means
that. And that's that's by intention.
You know, I mean, this is sort of a core trait of any Marxist infiltration of any kind
or any sort of, you know, new form of communism that has come to be in history.
It's that they try to change language so we can't agree anymore.
A great example of that is like Latin X, OK, or some people say Latinx.
You know, you'll be hard pressed to find a Latino who wants to be called Latinx or Latinx
or whatever it is they want to they want to make up next.
Nobody asked for this, essentially, you know, you're talking about this like micro
group of people, but they want to try to change language.
And as you saw, when they tried to roll out this Latinx Latinx thing, the media latched
on immediately and made it the rule.
They made it the AP style guide.
Like people had to use this term to refer to Latinos.
And every time Latinos were polled, it was like 98 percent in the Think Progress poll.
I think it was 98 or 97 percent.
We're like, no, we don't want to be called this.
And so, you know, that's to say changing language is intentional and it provides a
ground where essentially you can never see eye to eye because you can't even agree on
the definition of words anymore.
Yeah, Robbie, I'm just a quick question because this actually came up a few days ago with
some other people I know, some friends of mine.
And like a general, what would you recommend as a recourse for parents if they notice that
their children, well, that there's some strange stuff taught in school like and let's say
they don't have the means to pull them out or don't want them to put them in a new school.
How would you recommend parents to approach this situation?
Yeah, I mean, step one, there's a few things here.
First, before you ever send your kid to a school, I recommend doing some background.
Go speak to the headmaster or the principal or whoever it is who's in charge there.
Depending on what country you're in, they call it something different.
But talk to that person and be honest with them about your concerns about which areas you
want to know if they're going to be going into and get an understanding of where they are,
because it's going to become clear very quickly where they stand, OK?
Because that's going to let you know if you have an ally in the future, if something does
happen in your kid's classroom.
Secondarily, if you are already in the situation where your kid's in a classroom and a teacher
is going in that direction, I think you very honestly, you do have to go to the head of
school and approach the issue to find out exactly how they're going to deal with this.
Is this something that they're tacitly endorsing?
Are they are they going to allow this and is it going to get worse?
And if it is, you know, as a parent myself, three kids, I will move heaven and earth to
make sure they are not in a school that's going to corrupt their minds because there's
nothing more valuable to them.
There's no money that's more valuable to them.
There's nothing more valuable to their future than making sure that they have, you know,
not just freedom of thought, but that they're able to be inquisitive and that they're able
to be in an environment that is going to reflect back reality and not somebody else's
fantasy and that they're never trapped in an ideological prison where they're not able
They're not able to, you know, really go into the sort of logical debate side of things
and debate an issue or to try to figure out what's right or wrong, because that's sort
of like how we all figure out what we believed in, at least when I was growing up, is you
could have logical debates.
You could ask questions and all those things.
And there was there was not a punishment for doing it.
It was considered sort of a rite of passage.
You know, it's it's part of how you establish, you know, your own set of morals and beliefs.
Now, a lot of kids feel like they can't do that.
I can't tell you how many times I heard from young people or their parents saying that
they were terrified of even speaking up at all because they're afraid of what the backlash
would be in whatever environment it was, whether it was school or an extracurricular or
whatever. And so people have to adopt a an attitude of courage during a time like that,
because if you truly feel that way, it should be recognition in itself of how far we are
down this dangerous path and that if we don't all have that courage to speak up and stand
for something, well, how could we ever expect our kids to?
How could we ever expect them to have the opportunities that we've had?
And the truth is we can't.
We can never expect greatness or anything else from them as long as, you know, we as
parents find ourselves in moments where we succumb to cowardice and we're afraid to use
our voices. You know, it's it's incumbent on us to be the strong ones that show the
leadership we would be proud to see in them.
And so I think that's kind of the thing I ask myself when I'm faced with issues is what
would I be proud of my kid doing in response to this one day when they're a parent?
And I try to operate from that vantage point.
And so on an individual basis, ask a lot of questions.
That's that's number one before you ever get into these situations.
But when you're in them, you know, you need to take it to the top.
And if things are not working out there, you need to find a way to get your kid out of
that environment, because it's like, you know, with gardening, with gardening, if
with the stuff that you're planting and it keeps dying in the same spot and you keep
planting in the same spot without realizing the soil might be poisoned and it might not
be a place where you can plant.
You know, it would be absurd if you did that in gardening.
And so with our kids, same thing, it's environment matters.
You know, you can't put them in an environment where you're seeing a bunch of negative
outcomes and expect them to magically perform differently.
I know all of us think our kids are incredible.
But if an environment is is toxic, we need to recognize it and move them to a new
I'm going to jump in here.
Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Robbie, thanks so much for joining us on super important topic.
So I'm curious, as as you were compiling all of this and going through it, did you
interview anybody who I'm referring to the transgenderism that's going around?
Did you interview anyone who had actually transitioned?
And the reason that I'm asking that in regards to this cause that you're pushing forward to
call attention to is there is a gentleman on here.
His name is Buck Angel, and he used to be a woman and transition to a man.
And when all of this stuff was going on last year that I actually met him here through X.
So he identifies as a man.
Previously, he he has children from when he was a female.
And when a lot of people were talking about the discussions on this, one of the things that I
found interesting is he was actually advocating talking about the fact that he doesn't
believe that children or anyone, for that matter, under 30 years old, because they were
talking about doing this with children, which I just still can't even believe.
He was literally saying from his own personal experience, he didn't have his sex change, I think,
until it was he was in his mid to late, late 30s, almost 40s.
And he, having gone through the procedure himself, was a very strong advocate for making
sure that children don't go through it, especially if they're under 25 years of age, let alone if
they're high school children, because he was talking about a lot of the medical conditions
that come around from having the transition that he had.
And some of the things that he was talking about were absolutely astonishing to me, with some of
the medical issues that he has had since he had the transition.
And I feel like it's such an important voice for people who have actually gone through the
transition and had a lot of these problems that I don't think that we're hearing about enough in
the press and the mainstream media that are really important for younger kids who are potentially
thinking about doing something like this, which it may just be a phase they're going through,
because it's, quote unquote, the popular thing.
And some of the things that I've heard from some parents out in California, because I myself live
in Los Angeles, and hearing some of these things firsthand, is how even young kids, this one
gentleman I knew, and he was talking about his daughter around other young kids at their
school was feeling pressured to act like a boy, to feel like it was okay to act like a boy.
And if she didn't do that, then she was going to be ostracized and she was going to lose her friends.
And hearing some of this stuff from the ground up was quite astonishing to me.
And so I'm just wondering if you had, if you interviewed anyone like that, because I feel like it's such
And then the other thing is, in some of the schools that that are trying to pass that or trying to push
that along a little bit, how fair do you think it is in their assessment?
In other words, are, are they fully talking to the children about the, the circumstances of things that
could be negatively affected to them, after they have a lifelong permanent operation like that, so
that they know the ramifications of having a decision like that, and how it can change their life forever,
not only with their identity, but then also with their medical health from the biological body.
Great question. So to answer the last one first, that is not happening.
They are never, ever, ever teaching the drastic, horrific side effects that can come along with this
transition for a child. And they're never honest with them about the fact that, you know, you can go
through all these surgeries and everything else, but you do not change the biological reality of, you
know, what, what you are, who you are. You're still going to have the same chromosomes, there's no
changing that. You can change your appearance and things like that, but you can't change fundamental
biological reality. And they never explain that to them.
In fact, in the film, we sit down with a young girl, Layla Jane, who, you know, she had a mental
health crisis, and she was influenced a lot by online, you know, websites, social media, things
along those lines, and local, you know, sort of groups and everything. And when she expressed this
gender identity confusion, instead of doctors saying, hey, we need to sit down and have some
serious talk therapy, because talk therapy, you know, in the past, was the route out of this for
a child, you know, extremely high percentage desist from this feeling just by having talk therapy.
And they no longer go and try to do that for any type of prolonged period of time. In fact,
in her case, they put her on hormone blockers or puberty blockers almost immediately. And so there
was there was no search out for is there a deeper mental issue that we can help, you know, talk talk
you through. And for her, it was less than one month after her 13th birthday that they gave her
a double mastectomy. Okay. That should be absurd, insane, and disgusting to everybody on here,
a month after her 13th birthday. So we interviewed her in the film. And I think that's, that's a
really powerful portion. Because before we interview her, I also play a collection of news
coverage from all the major news companies, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, all these places. And they're all
saying there are no children receiving these surgeries. And then you hard cut to a vulnerable
young lady with her, you know, experiences she had and the photos from the hospital and everything and
her her getting this and her explaining the side effects that she deals with now because she,
she knows that she's not a male. Now she she identifies as a female, which she is,
she has a D transition now. But that doesn't mean it all goes away. She's got this whole
host of medical issues to deal with still. And she goes into harrowing detail of just how
difficult that road is. But I will say this, you know, an answer to sort of partially your first
question, since making the film, and, you know, I think we're close to 50 million views now on the
movie, which has just been incredible. We've gotten letters from all over the world. And one
thing I was surprised by, I will say, is I've gotten a handful of letters from adults who
identify as transgender, who have said that the movie was incredible moved them that they agreed
1000%. And in some cases, you know, at least with one of them, they said, you know, it made them
kind of question their own road, because they realized that there were a lot of mental health
issues that were not addressed. And, you know, it's, it's kind of time in their life to address
them. So I, I know that those people are out there, they exist to, you know, have had this
experience of gender dysphoria as an adult, and are seeing this and going, we need to do more as
a society to protect kids from this, because they know how hard the road is, they've been through it,
they've been through how difficult these surgeries are, and the side effects. So I appreciate that
some of them are speaking up. But you know, again, there's fundamental issues at large, even when
adults make these choices that affect children. So because some people would say, well, once you're
an adult, it's nobody's business to what you want. But here's the problem with that is that if,
if you are an adult, and you're then fighting to get into the restroom of a child, you know,
there is a problem there, you know, because like Riley Gaines is in our film, and she explains her
experience, you know, in college, where she's, she was a swimmer. And, you know, this will Thomas
identifies as Leah Thomas comes into the locker room fully nude. And she said to her and many of
the other girls, it felt like mental rape, none of them asked to see him naked. And it was forced on
them. And so if you know, you're, you're a grown man, and you're forcing that on children, I really
don't care what you identify as, it's not appropriate, and your choices as an adult do
affect kids, and they do matter. And so that's something that people have to be cognizant of
when they think about these issues is like, yes, adults can choose what they want. But how do your
choices affect children? And that's something we as a society need to start asking more of.
Because, you know, we talked to the teenagers, we did teen focus groups in the film. And what we
found in these teen focus groups was that they could identify all these problems very easily,
they knew what was right, what was wrong. I mean, it was incredible in that regard. And they talked,
you know, quite a bit about the social pressures created by this ideology and how people who adhere
to this ideology and adopt gender confusion in some form, are treated better in many cases in
their experience at school by their teachers, faculty, staff, so on and so forth. And so,
you know, kids are recognizing this stuff. And I think that we as adults need to have the wisdom to
recognize what they're already seeing. And frankly, in many ways, you know, kind of screaming out for
help with. Anybody else have a question?
A quick question. Do you see a shift in that? Because people start to talk about that,
right? And for a little bit of time now, do you see this changing in any way,
people getting more attuned to this?
Absolutely. You know, I think for a lot of adults, this felt like something that was not at their
doorstep yet. So you didn't really worry about it. But the hands are knocking on everybody's
doors now, you know, and so the more recognition there is that, oh, this is actually here,
this is at my front door, the more people are starting to sort of change their tune with it.
You know, and I think even a film like this, it reached an audience that has not been fully
exposed to everything that's going on. And so that was really a big goal behind this movie,
was make a film that is able to reach and speak to people who maybe don't believe this stuff is
going on, you know, because there's a surprisingly high number of people who just like they don't
believe that anybody would be evil enough to stick porn in a school. They don't believe anybody would
be evil enough to cut off the breasts of a child, you know, they don't believe that any of that could
possibly be happening. And so to put it all in one place and give them a very concise way to
understand the reality of what we're facing, that was the intent behind the film so that they could
understand the state of where we are and where we're going if we don't stand up as adults and
make some changes, you know, as to how we how we do many different things.
Hey, Rob. Lincoln, I think you've been there for a while.
No, thanks. What's the response been? Was it as you expected?
Honestly, I'd say 100,000 times better than I expected. I mean, I knew that we would
make change with this film, but it's it's one of those things where when you make a movie like this
that you know is is, you know, going to ruffle some feathers because there are definitely political
undertones to the reality of the situation we're facing because consistently on each one of these
these things we identify, there is very clear, you know, sort of partisan bento who is is pushing
them. And so, you know, knowing that going in, you sort of understand that there's going to be some
pushback, but there really wasn't as much pushback as I thought there would be. And what I found is,
you know, there's been a lot of really decent people from all walks of life who've been able
to look at this and go, wow, this is a problem. And I've even gotten letters from people who,
you know, they don't believe the same things I believe on many fronts politically, but they
agree with me on these issues and they were able to see the heart and the truth inside the film
that we need to make some changes in some very serious areas if we're going to save this next
generation. And by extension, our country, because for us to be able to have the differences that we
used to have, you know, decade, two decades ago, your country has to survive, you know,
and the woke ideology is a threat to all of us. It's not just a threat to one party or one group
of people. It's a threat to everybody. It's a threat to the human race, frankly. And I think
Elon Musk has actually talked pretty extensively about that in a way that is very important and
people should listen to because we really do face a true threat from this because it can keep us
from our potential. And I think that's probably really the nicest way to put how dangerous this
is, is it it will tear humanity away from its potential and our ability. And it's going to push
us down into the depths of, you know, some really some really terrible stuff. I appreciate it. Thanks,
France. You know, I live in Silicon Valley, where the schools are pretty good most places.
But let's say let's say your your agenda got put into play and I could put my kids anywhere.
I'd love my kids to go to Palo Alto Public School. Their scores are really, really high.
And they're in a very rich neighborhood that I can't afford to live in. So there's two questions.
One, how would I get my kids there? If I'm poorer, I can't get my kids very far. Two,
let's say I could get my kids there. Now all of a sudden you have demands on a school system
that it wasn't prepared for. There's more kids. The class size goes up. If you're in a private
school, there's more demand for that school. So now the price goes up because I'm an economics
minor. That's what happens when there's more supply, more demand and not increase in supply.
The price goes up. How do you handle those two things?
Well, we've seen this already in some instances of school choice taking effect. And essentially
there's a lot of questions there. But for one, when it comes to the sizes, every school has a
capacity limit and they already have those. So you're not going to be able to go beyond that
amount. It's like a lot of the really good public schools in L.A. I know they have waitlists,
even for public school, where you're like you're on a waitlist for that public school.
And so things along those lines in terms of how that would functionally work, you're not going
to get overflowing schools where they're cramming everybody into a classroom. It's not something
that they can do. But beyond that, when you look at the supply and demand part of this,
instead of seeing prices go up, what we've functionally seen is new schools pop up.
And so you've seen people sort of go and try to create these schools that are their dream school.
And I think that's pretty cool because you've seen some real innovation in that regard where,
you know, like I take my son, for example, you know, if he didn't love his school where he's at,
and I was just to say, you know, I lived in another part of the country and he didn't have
that school and a new school cropped up that was very catered to the engineering mind. That would
be the perfect place for him. The kids, like he has a natural engineering mindset. It would be
the perfect place for him to blossom, you know. And so school choice would give not just the
ability for me to do that, but also the ability for somebody, you know, entrepreneurially minded
to go and open this and say, this need exists in society. We have this new ability for parents to
do this. So capital is going to be, you know, immediately injected. And I'm going to be able
to do this because I know already I've talked to enough people that I have, you know, 50 students
for the first year that's going to cover the teachers and the curriculum we want to do.
And all the parents are behind the vision and they go for it. And we've seen so many
beautiful success stories. So, you know, that's not to say there's not growing pains,
there's growing pains to anything you do. There's going to be things you have to figure out along
the way. And I think anybody who tells you otherwise about any fundamental transformational
change is a liar. You know, they're just lying to your face. But we have seen in these, you know,
pockets where you've seen this tested that really wonderful things are happening in that regard.
So, you know, I would say that each one of those things you brought up, I think that, you know,
there's ways to guard against it. There's also some places who have done school choice in an
interesting way where they've said, look, the one rule of the school choice is that when it comes
to public schools, they're still segmented by your locale. So like, if you live 50 miles away from
Los Angeles County, you can't go send your kid to a Los Angeles County school, you know. Now,
if you choose a private school in there and you want to drive an hour to that private school
every day, like, that's up to you as long as you make the difference in the tuition.
Some places have done that. I don't know that I fully agree with that. But, you know, every
state's going to be different. And that's the thing, I might not agree with how another state
does it. But, you know, that's the beauty of, you know, federalism and state control and states
kind of dictating what's best for their citizens is, you know, is that. So I think you're going to
have a variety of different ways it's done. And you're going to see over a period of a decade or
two, which states do it the best. And then you'll see further states adopt closer to the sort of
set and standards that have been the most successful because at the end of the day,
every state is fighting to compete to be the best in each of these things because they all have
economic, you know, effects that come afterwards. So, you know, you produce more functional
intelligent citizens that do better economically. Well, you want to you want to copy that system,
right? So I think that's what you'll see over time. But there's no there's no questioning that,
like, the system we have right now is broken. It's fundamentally broken. In fact,
I was able to do really well in public school when I was in this program in California
when I was a kid where I was able to graduate really early from high school because of this
program for accelerated learning. And I was able to do my first year of college simultaneously
with my last year of high school in this program. And it was really cool at night, you know, when I
was done with high school, I had a license already. So I could go I could go to college and do some
classes at night. And I was getting a head start on the things I wanted to do in life. That program
today was branded racist, not today, but within the last, you know, 24 months was branded racist
by the California legislature and they're not doing it. And so it's just which is absurd to
me because I was in the program and they were kids of every color, you know, myself being Latino in
the program, I saw very clearly what it took to be in the program. First of all, you were recruited
to it based off of your scores. And I knew kids rich and poor who were in the program. And the
problem the state apparently has with it is that there were too many Asian kids in it, which is
absurd to me. If they have better study habits, they're performing better in the outcomes, you
know, why should they not be able to have this program that has done so many good things for
for kids over time, you know, it just it seems it seems crazy to me. So we've got to have common
sense injected back into the equation with education and reward excellence again and try
to build a system that allows that excellence to come forward from every walk of life.
I'm just going to jump in. Yeah, so I'm curious how how vital do you think that X was in helping
your film get seen and get distribution? I mean, being a Hollywood producer, I've done films myself,
I'm sag after it and all that jazz. So in the business, and I know there are a lot of people
who have controversial films that are outside of the traditional studio system that may want to
get things like the scene in the future for other projects that maybe Hollywood wouldn't
necessarily give a green light on if it goes against a particular narrative that they're
trying to put forth, and they don't want to have alternative views, which I feel like your film is
definitely an alternative view that's outside of a lot of other people's and I think that's important.
I mean, we're all here on X because of free speech and being able to tell a story like what
you're doing and share those insights that are true life events that are happening. It's important
for people to be able to see both sides of those issues so that they can have true discernment for
themselves. So knowing that there are other filmmakers in the future that may want to be
able to do that but not have the opportunity to get it seen in wide distribution through the
traditional Hollywood system, I'm wondering how vital do you feel like X was since Elon bought
it over it was to get scene and get your film scene and get distribution?
Absolutely incredibly, incredibly vital. I can't say that the film would have been made without
the existence of X to be perfectly candid because you have to look at the landscape of what your
audience is probably going to be and X was a huge reason why we felt comfortable taking the risks
we took because we knew, okay, there's one avenue they can't ban us on. And so that was one of the
thoughts we had as we went into it. But beyond that, this platform I really believe is the platform
of the future. The one difficulty you have as a filmmaker, and I plan to press Elon on this a
little bit to try to make this the very best place for filmmakers to release things, is
education to the user on how to cast to your TV and having maybe even a TV app that is extremely
easy to use for this type of content. I think that that could be really great whether you're
watching news programs on X or whatever it is to be able to just flip it on and the app on the TV
would be fantastic. It would definitely take some engineering and time but I think it would be
fantastic in the long run. They're making changes here too that are just going to be fantastic for
creators of alternative content though because at the end of the day not being chained to Hollywood
and the positions or the opinions of them is wonderful. I mean most freeing thing possible
as a creative is to not have to worry about any of that stuff. And X allows you to really build
your own audience of people who they care about similar things and they want to see things created
without that influence, without that you know heavy hand behind you changing things and demanding
rewrites and saying you need to edit that out because that's that that's an unpopular fact or
whatever it may be. So a big reason we were able to even do the free week is because of my subscribers
on X. You know subscribers on X they pay five dollars a month but it allows us to create freely
without that influence of well Hollywood so if you sub to my page you know that helps fund our
future films and we've got plans for a bunch of great content and films that we're going to be
rolling out in the next 12 months. So you know I really think we're at the forefront of something
really cool here with X where creators are going to be able to completely get away from that system
and eventually with the way X grows with us alongside creators we're going to have more and
more avenues to be able to show our films or show our content to people whether it's on tv or on the
app on our phone. But really that's that's the thing is there's a few technical things that you
know I'll push for changes on like some larger file sizes because it's really hard to compress
a two plus hour movie down into a file under eight gigs and have it look the way a filmmaker wants
it to look because you know that's that's something that drives filmmakers crazy but
you know outside of those things I think we're going to grow together and have just amazing
possibilities in the future and I think that that's why you know in so many there's so many
things beyond filmmaking that are going to make X really the future of the landscape of social
media media news you know all these things together I think that it's going to dominate
and then the financial sector too I think X is going to become a huge part of our financial lives
as well I mean they have uh sought several licenses for money transfer I think we're going
to become a payment system here I mean I mean well there's still a few issues that need to be solved
as far as I can see I mean I look at how X is being built right now who's building it and you
can find all this stuff on github by the way everything's chained together and traceable
so you can see where the issues are and besides you know this is supposed to become the everything
app at some point right and you know of course you know everyone goes subscribe to Robbie here
he's doing I don't normally you know allow people to promote their thing but I mean this is really
vital and I think this if you have the money to spare you should definitely subscribe here and
support what he's doing because this is kind of like a lonesome fight and I would hope it not to
be so yeah that is one thing and I hope also that X X movies scales its um scales its things
it would be interesting to have movies created here on site be promoted through that account
so that'd be really cool it should actually happen I'm actually surprised that this movie here
which is actual movie is not reposted by X movies it's kind of strange yeah you know I think um
another thing too it's a secret I actually kept the movie up I wasn't supposed to I kept the movie
up for free still for a couple more days I'm going to take it down so anybody on here
I appreciate if you end up buying it after but if you're one of those people listening and this
is the reason why I did this is because I saw we're still getting views from people who would
never pay to go see it and I really want those people to see this and if you're able to give
it a chance watch it I think at the end you're going to go my mind has been changed on a number
of things and I think then you'll you'll subscribe or you know rent the movie afterward or whatever
but you can see it if you go it's still in Elon's post you know what you'll find on my page if you
just scroll down um I haven't deleted it yet I will eventually I promise but um not everybody's
happy about me doing that but I I really feel strongly that people need to see it
Robert did you have something else you wanted to ask?
No I think this was a great conversation
wait we have we have a legend in here you guys I don't know if anybody realized this
we've got the future NBA MVP Wei Wu anybody see this okay
Adrian collects a lot of interesting people
free speech I don't know how you guys miss this this is this is guys she is going to make probably
I'm gonna guess 40 million on her first NBA contract that's my guess and I believe she I think
she might have promised me some of that money we'll see I worked for Bill Gates he didn't give me any
Wei Wu uh when it when are you signing your NBA contract?
I immediately left I guess she's she's gonna keep she's gonna keep it silent she doesn't want to
let us in on when that contract is going to drop because it's going to be massive let me tell you
what she is going to bring DEI to the NBA and to the Mavericks and Mark Cuban in a way that none of
us have ever seen okay so that was one of my favorite stories the past few months is how she
was trolling Mark Cuban that is the beautiful thing about this app I mean you can change the
world and you can make everybody laugh you know I mean it's like we've got a collection of some of
the funniest people in the world I mean it is the funniest people in the world on this app it's like
non-stop laughs it's honestly the biggest problem with this app is that it is eating up so much of
my time it's addictive in a good way
Mic check mic check do you hear
cool cool why why do you sound like an ai
I'm I'm used um voice voice disorder um cover your voice yeah um I'm way I introduce myself
I'm um Chinese international students I come to study engineer and accounting um
I'm still Chinese citizen so after education maybe have to go back to China um but I criticize
my insult Chinese government a lot that's not good so I um I don't want getting troubles
if I go back to China so maybe after I can buy from the resident in America I will use voice
disorder yeah well after you get your NBA contract I think that's gonna it's gonna be really easy
you know to make all that happen but you you have brought us all a lot of joy a lot of laughs with
the way that you have gone after mark Cuban so I thank you for that because it has been
it's been really fun to follow she was laughing and you want to talk to him
I don't know if people didn't hear me maybe I didn't unmute myself I know I heard you
we are yeah she's just are you here for some reason all right well I think we have them
other people who requested to come up if you want to uh
Adrian I have no idea what I'm doing I don't know how to like mute that
because I think she can't hear us um but there's other people who wait I don't know if you want
to keep going with question a Adrian yes you know mosque no no I'm not I am really not no
no he's definitely not he's lost into the two voices side by side you'll hear a difference
we've had an actual space we've had an actual space together he's lying to you
yeah just a few days ago we're on the same space together you're not
on my stage it was great Adrian I'm gonna make your life telling people that you're lying
oh I love it um Adrian that's man um yeah why you spawn like me
I don't know that Adrian that's what I'm gonna do I'm gonna I'm gonna call you
Elon from now on and I'm gonna call you on it from Africa wow
wow Adrian we might need it how you pronounced your last name
because it's still the AI is coming over everybody's voice
yeah yeah all right I'm using yeah I figured yeah I took it off um I'm gonna invite up
William if he's uh able to speak that's there that's the person I was referring to
Adrian how do you pronounce it because I gotta run so I got you man love the topic love this
was great we might not agree on everything but it was a great conversation see you appreciate it
big time nice this is like we've essentially replaced TED talks because we are having
conversation we're not only spreading ideas worth spreading but we're also having conversations
worth having absolutely no I think you know TED talks actually used to be really cool and then
again that's another thing that was sort of like I really think got hit by some of the woke ideology
um one of the anybody who's watched the film knows there's that scene where the doctor starts
talking about uh says my daughter with a penis and she's not referring to her own daughter she's
a doctor who transitions kids and um that was like that was during a TED talk and that was where I
was like oh okay we've gone totally off the rails because my wife did a TED talk it was actually
about human trafficking and um they they took it down about a year ago they took it down the TED
talk and the they really gave no reason except for that um you know I think it's that she talked
about how trafficking is happening at the border she never said anything explicitly about politics
or anything like that it was just about the reality of the horrors of the trafficking that happened
there and so it was like well this is something that could upset some people so we're just going
to take it out nobody had an issue with it there everybody from all different ideologies they were
like up on their feet clapping at the end of the thing so you know it seems like so many of these
things have been just infected by wokeness and eliminated the ability for us to just talk you
know that's why I love what the guy just said that he didn't agree with me on everything but he loved
the conversation that's how it used to be like I love to listen to people who I don't fully agree
with because it makes me test my ideas it makes me think harder about the holes there might be
and be better and that's that's that's what's missing when you try to just delete opinions
and ideas from the conversation and so I agree with you I think x is the new ted talk
especially spaces yeah we just have to there's there's a little there's a little problem though
that I see a lot of people who are like growing these kinds of spaces they're like focused too
heavily on money extraction it's like I kind of do this I did some sort of thing that I do
as a hobby I just do it just because you know just because you can and you know this this is like
you want your I want to be ultimately death center on the alignment chart
and part of that is to do what it is that I'm doing right now and literally receive no money
for it I'm not doing this for money I just do it for the ability to receive cool ideas
speak with awesome people and spread those ideas and you know have to have more conversations
like it right it's all about that it's all about the unfiltered experience with kind of a blood
pain but with kind of a blood brain barrier to it you know to make sure it's safe and you know
well executed I think that's great I've noticed you know it's really funny how quickly things
change because like you know it wasn't that long ago Elon didn't own x and it was twitter and
people were afraid to like they were walking on eggshells with everything they said is this going
to get me banned is this going to get me you know shadow banned or whatever it may be and then you
know fast forward a short time later I mean we're really like in the arc of history we are like
a snap away from where we weren't right and you've got a lot of the same people now complaining
they're like I'm not getting paid enough to to be here you know and it's like you weren't getting
paid anything for like a decade while you use this and you were constantly inferior you were
going to be removed and now not only has it been bought you have the ability to say what you want
to say but you're being paid and now you're upset you're not being paid enough so it's I just still
think it's incredible that they've worked out how to monetize as quickly as they have and I'm excited
about the future for creators though because I think once you have in-stream ads which is not
as simple as people think it is to to do once you have that on a scale for creators on on here you
are going to see some big creators that do really amazing stuff transition to use x and the growth
is just going to continue to explode because uh you know obviously some people spend incredible
amount of time creating their content and they have to pay their bills and everything but um I
I just I always thought that was that was kind of funny as you know some of those same people who
you know were on eggshells just that little while ago how quickly things change to like hey I want
more money asap yeah it's it's it's mainly the algorithm hacking I think the the worst thing
that people are doing at current just trying to somehow farm this or even just manipulate the
algorithm it's like dude the more you do this the more you not only ruin the experience for
yourself but also others because what you're doing is damaging the actual algorithm because
the algorithm itself is a is a is a modifiable shapeable thing that relies on network states
and you are adjusting them and if you adjust them in the wrong ways that things will happen
and I don't think people entirely realize this but the more you engagement farm the more you
try to quote fix things that are wrong the more you will contribute to a problem you will make it
bigger and bigger and bigger there's recently a new push to I don't know this is this oh there's
there's something else there's a new big thing coming out with the algorithm nothing has changed
really a few things here and there are maybe a few tweaks but nothing fundamentally has changed too
much so actually I'd say it has actually improved and then somebody starts complaining about the
algorithm because the people who complain aren't getting enough engagement so now they're farming
back that engagement again and now across the platform the engagement is down 20% so do you
feel happy about yourself having manipulated the algorithm again and ruined the experience
for everyone else it hurts the economy at large but I think you know this will be fixed as well
because we you'll have AI integrated into this and you'll actually have something else maximized
which is you know unregarded user minutes I think that's it's basically just voting with
people's retention as opposed to just voting with peer engagement alone so that's that's
it's really interesting because you want to you want to maximize user minutes you want to attract
how fast or how far things go off platform and you want to keep things on platform even better
still get things here on platform right so that's the that's the major push that I see algorithmically
yeah I think that's amazing I think that's going to be amazing for for x you know and hopefully
other places will follow suit because you know it's easy to there's a million things I could
post right now that I know will get like you know 10 000 likes and will you know get all the
people there but the truth is is it is it content that is bringing people something of value or is
it just you know farming for likes to get ads and their replies and to make money you know and I
think those the folks doing that they're devaluing themselves in the long run anyways make interesting
things that are thoughtful audience they will come to you you know you want to retain people
I'll put it this way I'd rather have a thousand people follow me who we're all deeply interested
in the thoughts of one another they're deeply interested in whatever it is I'm creating or
doing then I would rather have you know 50,000 casual followers that they'll you know like
something here or there but they're never really there long on anything you do you know so I think
create things of value and you're going to build your audience whether it's small or big or whatever
that audience you want one that is engaged and so I love that as a focus of the algorithm to
to really hone in on are people spending time you know are you retaining their attention
because that's that's really a mark of quality you know and I'd rather quality over quantity
exactly yeah so it's all about signal over noise he keeps telling us that signal over noise and
it's ironically enough before this was even heavily pushed for I've always said dude you
need to focus on value curation out of the noise right because I see a lot of the times for instance
with shitposting it's the same thing there's some really good ideas within the shitpost but
sometimes we do it with such a high frequency that we forget to curate the actual gems out of the
dirt that we put out and so that's kind of like what I focus on it's also various organizations
that focus on this internet actual turn this into actual you know hypervector compute like
crazy situation but essentially they told me the same thing it's like dude focus on value curation
what you're doing is amazing and you're actually on the right track and you're doing it already
just just kind of refine it a little bit more and so I think people need to move towards that a
little bit and understand that you know this is not a this is not a thing that necessarily
pays off most of the time but at some point it may just you know it's a hobby it's a hobby that
pays and maybe one day if you're so successful at this hobby it becomes the thing that actually
makes you money consistently and then you can rely on that as a main thing like up until the
point that you become say about say as big as you perhaps even or as big as the Tucker Carlson
network or anyone else then you're not really good to turn this into a scalable full-time job
that actually makes any sense you know this is something that people need to actually consider
you can always think of growth and you can always think of extracting money out of the platform
but but what are you actually providing and well what are you actually trying to do this for
right there has to be a there has to be reason there's to be a deep moral reason behind which
you do anything and in my case it's there are motivations that I have for instance and
just because that's it just because and it's awesome I actually think like a decent reason
for why I had you know really good growth on on social media not just here but you know other
places even though I pretty much only spend my time here now is because I never tried to like
extract money out of the following you know this is actually the first thing that I've ever done
me and my wife ever did where we were you know charging people for it and the reason for that
is because we want to make more of these you know and so it's like the first ask I've made to
followers and maybe the reason that this has been really successful is because I haven't done that
a million times you know I haven't been using this as our our source of income it's just been
like these are my thoughts this is where I'm at this is here I'm going to provide things of value
that were of value to me and the one time I'm coming and saying hey now I'm asking you know
you to pay for something is for something where we put in an intense amount of time I mean we spent
half the year making this and you know invested you know some our own money and stuff like that so
people get it they understand oh that makes sense you know and so that would be my encouragement
to creators is don't ask people for them to pay your bills and for you to make money until you're
bringing them something of extreme value that you've really put your heart and soul into because
then people are going to understand and they're going to you know want to do that I mean that's
how I am as a human being if if I see somebody's created something that they've really put their
heart and soul into and it has value and adds value to my life I want to I want to give them
money you know I want to pay for it and oftentimes you know find a way to to help them in some way
and so I think that's how we're going to make x a great place is like reward creators who do that
and focus on that and stop giving attention to things that are trying to just you know sort of
gain the algorithm for attention exactly yeah yeah I wanted to ask a follow-up on just this
exact statement the algorithm like as a creator and being on x for so long and through the recent
history of change with Elon taking over and such have you noticed a change in your distribution
like in general like what gets recommended in 4u tab and overall have you noticed any any changes
yeah and so you know I think I think Elon appreciates honesty because I I've complained
a few times about the 4u tab and you know I know a number of other people have as well
but it's it's also like people have to recognize this is a difficult science you know it is not
exact you're trying to create something perfect that works for everybody and if there's one thing
I found in life you were never going to make everybody happy so it's it's a matter of like
trying to find the algorithm that sort of does the best job of suiting each person's desires
you know and I don't think anybody's ever going to get that 100 right but I think that x is is
veering into really successful territory with it but I've definitely noticed changes
like the 4u page initially when they rolled it out I'd say the first couple of iterations I
couldn't stand the thing I want to say was the third one I was like oh this is this is really
good and then I didn't like the next one and then now we're at one that I really like I feel like
it's bringing me engaging content stuff I want to to watch it's giving me long-form stuff to engage
with that I really like and it's reminding me of things that I'm terrible at reminding myself of
like I love the content Tucker Carlson's putting out you know the conversations the long-form
conversations with all different types of people I think it's really interesting you know sort of
how he's gone about it and sometimes I forget to yeah I mean I pretty much always forget to check
it but the 4u page knows I like it so it keeps bringing it back to me and so I appreciate sort
of some of the the changes it's making that are almost like filling holes and gaps in your own
desires that that you would normally be geared towards so I think it's doing good but in terms
of like you know am I doing anything differently to you know attract the algorithm or anything no
not I'm not not at all you know I'm pretty much you know create and trust the people and you know
if you make great stuff people people will do great things with it you know
um but I will say I did I do notice I do notice the difference every time Elon retweets me or he
replies to me it is I have to basically like shut my phone down for a little while because
it goes nuts and I turned off notifications for good on my phone because the the phone's useless
after that um so I don't know how he does it you know it's so many people respond to him on a
regular basis and are like hey basically like they want him to be tech support and it's like
I can tell you right now I get maybe like one one hundredth of the notifications he gets
and it's unreadable like I literally if I sat here all day and read through
the the tab you know of notifications I would I would literally only be doing that my entire
day and I still would not read them all so I have no clue how he does it it's it's honestly it's
kind of incredible I think you kind of just like look at it and you look for things that
kind of grab you and if it grabs you just look at a new response but I think that's how I do it
because I get a ton of shit he get mentioned everywhere in places where like okay I probably
don't want this probably remove yourself from that and then you just kind of micromanage a little bit
and the rest of the time you just sit there and say okay you know what let the let the flood in
you can't stop it like but ever ever since there was this day when the news broke of course you
know about me and all I have to basically just put like with it within 48 hours essentially
my role changed a little bit so I have to like just put down the phone for a little a little
while I just step back and just you know think about some stuff and come back to it right so I
guess maybe it's just kind of a perspective thing and you just look at the system and you yeah I
look at Scoble for instance he creates a lot of lists and if you view each one of the lists I
usually open up on the browser and then I put I put them up as individual windows and you can
see a new post coming in roughly about every two seconds you can sit there and you can look at it
as if it was the matrix you're unable to see every single detail but you may see some things
that catch your eye that's pretty cool so you're doing that on desktop I do that on desktop I
don't use suite deck because I don't trust it but you can just basically use the browser-based
instance for um x browser client and just you know open up a list in a separate tab and just
put them up and look at it you run out of ideas just look at it I'm gonna try I'm gonna try that
as my new news feed I'm gonna I'm gonna make a list and make that my new news feed and stick
it in the in the corner of one of our screens yeah I have a whole list for x orgs if you look
on the profile you see uh lists I've created then I have a whole list for every organization on x so
I know exactly what's happening with x as it's happening when it's happening how it's happening
and why it's happening so like I'd always be up to date and I don't have to follow anyone else's
news feeds um I just basically look at it from time to time I scroll see what's happening see
what's new hot and fresh what they're focusing on and then I just go about the rest of my day and
then when I'm in space for instance and then something gets prompted I'm like oh wait I saw
something about this here's what they're going to do there here's what they have been doing here's
what I think they want to do based on what I've seen of what could be happening that kind of stuff
right so that's what I use lists for I basically use them as as a reigning matrix code well you're
you're gonna be on my list so cool thanks would there any I see a bunch of requests are there any
other questions before we I don't know how long you usually go oh yeah we usually go for a very
long time just depends on how you how long you're able to sustainably go yeah do you have eight hours
that was that was a very long thing to say let's um yeah yeah I mean keep let's keep let's keep
doing questions if anybody has questions on the request lines I see Stacy's got questions oh yes
definitely let her on cover on Nikki Sarah Dr. Suzanne I can't see the whole name Dr. Suzanne
damn I didn't even see all these people yeah it's how periscope works look at you ignoring everybody
do you know how to bring those people up
up no I'm learning right now it used to be different in places so I'm normally I'm normally
like uh doing it as a guest but I used to host so now I see how to do it yeah out of speaker here we
go all right am I on yes you are by the way this is William the the person I mentioned before
hi William hello uh Robbie um Adrian I'm privileged to have your call
she ought to be here um I'm always a listener of Adrienne's because or when I can't
um Robbie I'm I'm I'm curious about the topic of the space the war on children
uh apparently it's uh video that you have or or could you could you tell me more about it
yeah William I I made a movie called the war on children and so it's sort of
it's a look at all the issues that kids face today from every segment of culture and government
and everything else and how it all intersects and who's behind it and how it it all plays into
you know sort of the overall vision that a certain segment of you know globalist elites
have to fundamentally change our country and turn it into you know really um a modern form of
communism well it's the nail on the head um I'm wondering how you feel after you've made the movie
how did it make you did your position in life change or yeah I'm more inspired than I've ever
been to affect change you know in all these ways and I think we've definitely um we found a really
great formula for getting a movie out to a wide group of people we've it's about 50 million people
so far that have watched it and it's affecting real change in communities all over the world
I mean I've gotten letters as far away as Kenya you know um all over the world but especially
here in the US and to affect that change and honestly you know one of my favorite things
I've gotten so far was this dad in Tennessee and he wrote me and he said shame on me I've got and
I want to say it was seven kids in school and I have just assumed for so long that none of these
issues were facing my kids and I haven't checked and shame on me for not checking and not doing
my job as a dad to double check that their school doesn't have these ideologies that they don't have
these apps on their phone that you know so on and so forth and I thought you know what a wonderful
person to be able to identify our own failures because too many people are afraid to identify
their own failures because well that means you failed and that makes a lot of people feel bad
but the truth is if you want to be great at anything you have to be able to identify your
failures fix them to be your best and so I loved the way he wrote it because it was this like this
recognition of failure but a mission at the end of it it was like he is going to be on a mission
to make sure that his kids are protected and kids in his community are protected from these
ideologies and so that's that's been probably the most amazing thing is hearing from people
all over the world and how they've been inspired to make differences in their own community.
Well I plan to watch your video as soon as I find it um I'm curious though what you found to be
the largest problem you said we slipped into another communism pardon me I have
I beg your pardon I'm quite old than I don't have my full breath
but I heard you mention communism and I was just on a space trying to tell people that
essentially beginning in the 50s
um communism became all of our problem um what how how did you find communism
well initially you know I have I'm cheating a little bit admittedly I had a head start because
my family came from Cuba so um communism and the dangers of it were kind of drilled into my head
at a very young age um so you know communism as it's playing out now in America is is different
you know it's it's this modern form of it where it's not as honest which is a funny thing to say
because communists are never honest which tells you a lot about how big of a group of liars we
have behind it today because it's the it's the worst lying I've ever seen um in terms of the
quantity and um quality you know it's they're not honest about their desire to control everything
and big tech is a very good example of this because if you doubt their desire to control
industry look no further than big tech because our government essentially has control over these
companies they get what they want out of them with the exception of x and it's why they hate x so much
because Elon is not playing their game and allowing them to control the future of this this platform
but with the other ones that's not the case and I say this is somebody who
the government uh they they used this group called the EIP the election integrity partnership
to essentially work as a third party to censor American citizens and they did that because they
knew they couldn't do it themselves so they they routed the money through the EIP and they did it
that way and I was one of the people on this list that they were sending tickets to the major social
media companies asking them to censor me and so myself and Charlie Kirk and David Harris Jr. we
actually have an amicus brief in the supreme court right now for the case that is popularly
known as Missouri v biden which is the major censorship case and you know what's funny is I
was able to see the tickets that were submitted to twitter and meta by the EIP about me and um
the thing that was funny that all the lawyers remarked is that not one of them is even you
couldn't even make a case that they're not true I mean it's laughably absurd stuff that they were
trying to get censored it would be laughable if it wasn't so scary that the government you know was
using this proxy group to do this I mean even tweets where I had said things like and this was
when it was called twitter so I'm going to say tweets instead of posts um I had tweeted that you
should not leave um until you know that your ballot has gone through the tabulator because
there were issues during this one during this uh election 2020 where you know some folks were
being told they had to leave and were not allowed to witness their ballot going through the tabulator
so I said don't do that you have every right to see your ballot go through a tabulator this is
America you know um stand your ground talk to the party officials there and and and you know watch
your your ballot go through the tabulator before you leave um and they marked that as uh as election
misinformation and so they were trying to get that pulled off of these social media sites
so this thing it tells you how far they were willing to go to censor to stop narratives or
voices that they felt were dangerous to their you know their own desired narrative um or outcome
and so um you know that's that's sort of a basis for for why I say you know we're veering into this
territory because that type of control is not just held over big tech it's held over big pharma it's
held over a lot of wall street you know look at places like black rock vanguard state street um
and you see that there is some you know real government overreach into these areas that
is beyond inappropriate to the degree where you can see how they're manipulating decisions to be
made in a way that is in alignment with their desired outcomes I'm wondering what pardon me
um I'm wondering what you feel or what you might have concluded that um an average citizen might do
or maybe someone who wants to become involved could do that would be effective to fight uh
fight this kind of ideology
yeah that's a great question so that's one thing we always want to be cognizant of is not
just creating like infotainment where people are entertained um whether it be through fear whatever
it may be like there has to be an action plan right so uh my wife Landon has a non-profit
freedom forever freedom forever dot us if you go there and you sign up on the mailing list you'll
get emailed with a free manual and that manual has a bunch of action items of things everyday
people can do to be a part of this and to stop this war on our kids and you know from there
we're going to continue to put out more action items that people can really do and we want it
to always be something people don't have to pay for you don't have to like buy a book or something
it's just hey we're going to give this to you these are action items that can help everybody
and um you know that's that's sort of the best starting point i could give people
um i think that's that's great because i do know having just the laptop site where
people are adamant about this um that people are hungry to know what to do to have some kind of
guidance uh so they can protect their kids or grandkids and uh one of one of the suggestions
that i make every time i talk about this subject is for those who are qualified and those who feel
they can do it should not wait they should run for a school board or they should run for
a county office or something within the ordinary person's
pardon me reach and make their statement there a lot i've seen too many videos of parents being
shut down in school boards school board meetings so it's obvious
uh that the school boards have a particular agenda
and it's not a good one the way we can change that is to change the school boards because
in the 1950s when the communists failed with their attempt to create a race war
in the united states they moved to the schools and to the school boards
i'm sorry i beg your pardon
oh no we were we were just listening to you i was adding some people up as speakers who wanted to
ask questions but yeah no we're we're all listening to you i'm i'm i'm sorry for my voice i don't want
to take a tickle uh take over the this at all i i just really appreciate your having
taken on this subject and i really appreciate those who are here these people and my view
is that the whole the whole thing they are people here and to hear and do something
and agree and it's a a really broad address so thank you very much for allowing me to speak with
you it's a real privilege you've got more followers than i do
william it's the privilege is mine and i thank you for sharing your wisdom and thoughts
um you definitely have an incredible amount of wisdom to to share with everybody so
i appreciate and i think everybody in the space appreciated hearing from you
um so thank you for joining up i added um so here i added nikki and i added
uh i guess nikki's the only one that came up i i'm gonna go ahead and add dr susan as well
as a speaker so you guys can ask away shoot nikki you gotta tap the unmute button
hello we got you hey there so i'm gonna kind of go way back in the conversation because that's
when um something really popped into my mind is um i'm from california i've lived here my entire
life i've been blessed to have raised two children and um things started getting a little cuckoo
when my kids were in about junior high school um what i've noticed now that my kids are coming
out of college is i'm seeing a lot of people who are not religious at all but they're taking their
kids out of public school and they're putting them into christian schools or catholic schools
because the education frankly is better
so you know i understand that people feel they'll be indoctrinated but i would much prefer my
children be indoctrinated to you know the presence of god than i would the presence of
um you're not a boy you're a girl that sort of thing that's funny you say that because um
somebody you know i try not to pay attention to you know the negative comments and i think that's
a superpower everybody should adopt is don't let negative people get to you but some of the
comments are really funny so i have to mention them um one person they they took a screenshot
from the film of me outside with my 11 year old son um and he's shooting in the backyard
and they they essentially made the argument that you know um when did this become normal
and i was like um well this has been normal really forever for dads to teach their sons
how to hunt how to you know do target practice things like that but also with their daughters
like my daughters are all proficient in gun safety not to use them but not only that the
funniest part to me is that's not even a real gun it's an airsoft he's doing like like he's like
he's plinking soda cans you know doing target practice with his sisters with me still right
there because we treat all we treat all guns as if they're you know the real thing um because
that's gun safety and that's that's the thing about if you have a dad that's actually present
doing those things like you will learn that stuff but i thought it was funny because they're like
they think that's some form of indoctrination i was like i i would rather my child learn that
than be learning you know from somebody telling them that there's unlimited numbers of genders
you know yes and so i i've kind of and i'm in california in the bay area and it literally feels
like the world's gone insane over here and but yet well it happens if it makes you feel better it
has but yet i am seeing more people coming in to our private schools and leaving public schools in
fact we're having to close and it's sad because we're closing schools in the areas where we need
the schools the most and yeah you know i think i think school choice in in the other parts of
the country because california will never adopt it yeah because they know what it means it means
you break the psychological stranglehold that there is over these kids in school and so they'll
keep them in failing schools because they they want this pattern to continue but in other places where
they're adopting this you're going to see this exodus out of these schools that are super woke
and you're going to see people sending their kids to private schools religiously and non-religious
that are going to offer them sanity and i think that's the number one thing parents are looking
for right now is where can i give my kids a semblance of sanity because guess what we all
were teenagers once you feel crazy enough as a teenager exactly all kinds of things going on like
you don't need a crazy school on top of it it's plenty crazy just being a teenager right and you
know and frankly i raised my children on my own because my ex has been um passed away and
i think knowing like and it was nothing like it is today just knowing you know what it was like
to be a teenager i was on red alert like my kids could get away with nothing so you know
when my son would come home saying oh somebody brought up bisexuality i just was like that's not
that's just not being picky and you know and that's just my opinion um but that's the way
the way i raised my children and i'm finding that now these people who say they're you know
extremely liberal but they're always fiscally conservative um because they don't want to you
know give their money away now they're sending them to the schools that i sent my children too
and i just find i find it so interesting there's definitely there's there's a there's a transition
a foot of people understanding mistakes they've made i mean i there's people i know who said my
wife started talking my wife and i started talking about these issues probably about a decade ago our
oldest kid is 15 and it entered her school really early on back in the day and so we ended
up pulling her from the school but we along with uh scott bayou and his wife we were pretty much
the only parents that stood up and spoke out again i actually know and everybody else was already
yeah they were captured by fear so scott and i our kids went to school together and stuff and
we we bonded over you know taking the fight to the school over this craziness and um we realized
this is going to spread to the entire country and it did and so you know seeing it from that point
to now is interesting because there were people back then who thought i was crazy for raising an
issue over these things and today they're apologizing you know and and they understand
i was extremely grateful because i live in the east bay in a relatively very conservative area
so my children's school was pretty good um but i always paid attention and it's really
hard for parents who are trying to work really hard so i i would just say to whoever i don't
remember who it was but just to say you know rather than to think your children's going to
be indoctrinated into some sort of religion your children's going to get an excellent education
and it's going to be not it doesn't it's it's going to be outside of your whatever happens in
the bedroom yeah thank you nikki i'm gonna i'm gonna change you up for somebody else because i'm
trying to get get everybody in to ask questions i appreciate you too and and thank you for those
those words because i think some people all right thank you i think we can go for stacy next
hey robbie how are you i'm doing well how are you i'm well thank you i know we follow each other and
i'm just so happy that you're on this space i think this is incredible so thank thanks adrian
for arranging this this is amazing um you and i kind of have similar stories in that we're both
banned from twitter and for telling the truth and um so i really want to thank you and applaud
you for your case that you have i'm really following that as well so i'd be interested
to see the outcome of it but um you know posting truth posting studies posting you know patents
and you know really basic just documentation and and that got that got me banned but um elon restore
is both and i remember we both came back on around the same time and i was like yay it's robbie so you
are one of my favorite people to follow before um we got banned but i know you're you're familiar
with um yuri bezmonov uh the soviet defector who yeah yeah and then the interviews he had with um
with uh e griffin uh how was it i i can never remember his name last name griffin and he's still
around but the in the 1980s he did a series of interviews that was warning america uh about the
four ideological the stages the four stages of ideological subversion and that document like that
those interviews um i put it down in the purple pill i i did a graph some graphics of them because
i i summarized everything he said and just put it in here stage one stage two stage three stage four
and it's like a 50 60 year process that's been going on um but it's really easy to see when you
when you look at that it's easy to see a what phase we're in right because it's it's from the
playbook of um the marxist blueprint on how to how to basically turn any country into a marxist
country from from whatever it starts as and um just reading the different stages you can see we
are in crisis right now we're in the we're in the third stage and we're actually i think teetering
on the fourth stage which is normalization a crisis is when they use something to to come in and just
take over a system a government whether by non-violent or violent force it's usually uh
they want to do it by non-violent but they will do it by violent but and then normalization is
when they have the power and they uh they keep it at all costs so i'm not quite sure which one we're
in it's the third or the fourth but um i think we're in normalization i i i do okay i i was i was
not hoping that's a horrible thing to say i was hoping you'd say that yeah but no we're pretty
far along and i think a lot of people don't realize it and that's an important point you're
making because um if there's one thing that could be sort of like a siren to everybody a warning
it's that um these types of really dangerous ideologies happen way faster than you think it's
not an election that's going to happen where they're going to elect some you know person
that's outwardly telling you all of this it happens so fast it's unbelievable in fact some
people don't know this about the cuban um you know quote unquote revolution as they call it um
when castro was leading that charge he actually denied that he was a communist so he would get
asked are you a communist because there were rumors you know that he was a communist and he
would say no i'm a humanist and he would talk a lot about free health care and about you know um
racial justice and things along those lines so a lot of the same buzzwords you hear from
progressives today and it was only after he took power and through the normalization process that
he admitted he was a communist and that his whole ideology is communist and from there on out it was
very clear what what he wanted so i'm glad you said that because people need to understand that
this can happen very very very quickly well especially in the modern day when everything
happens quickly anyway right so now it's you know i'm sure yuri bezbanov couldn't imagine how quickly
it could happen in the future and it can happen quickly anyway but now we're in the fast age where
everything happens so fast and that's why i think too that x is so important because it takes it
takes an informed populace to resist and to fight back and to recognize what's going on in the first
place and i think with the speed of x the fact that people can get on and and people come here
first now and go hey did that really happen um they just they i think they're losing the
propaganda the leg up that they had on the propaganda front which they've dominated over
the last four years um well even before that but the last four years it's been when people have
woken up and said wait something's not right here like when elon looked at twitter and said
it's not fun anymore you know something's off i want i want my twitter back you know
if something's changed and i think everyone fundamentally felt that um so i really
appreciate elon i appreciate people like you who are doing things i had a question um so kids are
going to be on on devices all the time there's kind of no turning back that tide i don't i don't
feel it's um yeah it's just it's a cultural revolution almost and and got the digital kids
that are coming up that that's what they know so how do you envision or can you envision or have
you thought about what kind of content um might be able to be geared toward kids specifically
and and is there a space to to to put that content out right for developers to put that
content out i know x is obviously the space that it should should come on but um what would that
look like if you were to kind of because again they don't teach us in school right they don't
they don't teach here's how to guard against the four stages of ideological subversion they don't
teach that like they did in the 50s and 60s anymore so kids are so vulnerable and with the
way that society and the agenda is trying to separate them from the the worldview of their
parents um they're looking for something to join right they're looking for the sense of belonging
and they're feeling very isolated do do you have any ideas about what kind of content could target
them in a good way and like say hey come join us over here we're having fun you know everyone's on
x because we're having fun like x is the place to be yesterday with elon's pulse i swear i didn't
know what i was more excited about landing on the moon or what what he was going to post post next
because i was just laughing hysterically um and so what do you think x could do or what do you
think people could have on x that would really really bring that generation in and and teach
them how to critically think and teach them how to identify something that's coming in is like a
sheep's clothing because they are so deceptive but actually be able to identify the worldview
beneath that and guard themselves up against it do you have any ideas about that yeah so
multi-part answer here first thing that i would say to any parent is that you know because there's
some people out there who think i'm fundamentally like anti-tech for kids and um those people who
have not met my son because my son is extremely technologically advanced he's coding already and
stuff and he's he's very interested in so many different parts of technology and if i had to
make a prediction about him he will probably end up somewhere in the technological space as an
adult because he's he's just got an engineering mind and he wants to make things better and he
he loves it like he's one of those people where if you sat him in front of something you know
that was an area of interest in how to do with code like he could sit there for 10 hours and
not be bored you know um but it it's a matter of thinking about technology as a tool you know it's
like with knives in our kitchen we don't just hand knives to our kids when they're little and say
here you go cut everything up you know you teach them how to cut things and you you recognize these
are tools that require us to teach them how to use responsibly and it's the same thing with
technology we've used it the same way with our kids noticing that he had an interest in in
you know fixing things and putting them together and stuff and that he loved design you know um
one of the things that we did was we said okay you know what um i have an adobe subscription
for um you know my computers and stuff and so we put photoshop and i got him videos that i
pre-approved you know that are really good youtube training videos on photoshop and set him up in
front of it play the videos and he can do photoshop at a level that's beyond most graphic designers
like if you went to you know what's that site fiverr you know where people hire like graphics
he can make stuff a million times more advanced than that stuff it's crazy i mean he's like
he's a little genius with it in fact uh the logo for the movie and uh a bunch of the art that is
created for it he made and so you know he's he's just incredible in that regard um and in so many
others but you know that's an example of using technology as a tool giving him a real life skill
instead of him just wasting time cruising tiktok you know um he gains something out of it he's
going to use for life so i don't know so much that i love technology as a place of entertainment for
kids and the reason why is really science-based because their brains are still developing and
in terms of you know creating parasocial relationships and things like that it can
be much more damaging at their age than it is for us as adults and and and there's still risks as
adults but we're adults and we make those choices and you know you got to live with them and they
can be good or bad or you know something neutral but for a child it's it's a little bit different
they have core skills they need to develop still on a human level um in terms of how we interact
with each other how we treat each other how you recognize empathy that's a big one um human
recognition of behaviors is something that takes you know time and practice and things like that
and if you're stuck behind a screen for a long time you start to lose those things and i think
you it becomes a lot easier to become an anonymous account that says horrible things
um and also a lot easier to be in an environment where somebody on an anonymous account says
horrible things to you and then you get your feelings hurt and so on and so forth and a
cascading set of mental health problems happen after that and so i would encourage parents use
it as a tool and don't be afraid of having them you know spend time on it in productive ways
because that's going to eliminate that that feeling of being sheltered you know where i would try to
keep them away is things like tick tock and and the like because they're really uh they're built
for destruction at this point but if if you think about positive ways to build for the future you
know um china doesn't allow the really negative stuff we see on tick tock on the chinese version
of tick tock we cover that in the movie and instead it's all science-based it's experiments they can do
that are are really cool and it's cool things they can build it's all it's all things that are going
to grow your mind versus rot your mind and that should be sort of what we think about when we do
this but we should also be thinking how do we separate platforms from adults and children
because i am a believer that no platform for social media can suitably serve both kids and
adults at the same time um it's not built for it yet and anybody who has an x account knows that
you see porn if you scroll through the replies of many different things okay so if you're a
platform that has porn on it and you know that just scrolling through it you're going to come
across it you know on a semi-regular basis it's not a place for kids you know um and so we talked
to a lot of kids in the teen focus groups during this movie and for many of them their first
experience of porn was on social media and they were not looking for it so they were cruising
through it and it was something that popped up in replies or something along those lines um
or in a video that came up next to an algorithm and you know it's highly sexualized and then
linked them to a page that had full long porn and you know for some of them i was surprised
you know there's the one girl in the documentary that opens up about the fact that she developed
a porn addiction you know when she had just gotten into high school and it was based on
you know seeing something she didn't try to see on social media and she grew a curiosity and that
curiosity turned into an addiction and it hurt her ability to have relationships and all types
of things and and messed up her psyche around what a healthy sexual behavior would look like
once you are an adult and so all of those things were very insightful and surprising that they
shared you know the the depth of sort of how these things had had come into their life and
and damaged them in different ways so i think that we have to be cognizant of those issues
and not think this is somebody else's problem because throughout this process one of the things
that you know we were being told by these teens in focus groups is parents who think they're
protecting their kids many of them are just technological dinosaurs and they don't realize
their kids ability to be engaged with all this stuff anyways and so parents really have to do
a better job of becoming you know in tune with what is going on technologically and that's
something we try to do you know throughout our messaging and then also my wife's non-profit
freedomforever.us in the in the parenting revolution manual is sort of like give you the
tools of different things you can do to to be a more eagle-eyed parent on those subjects
i love that and i'm gonna order that brochure that that booklet one thing i know though is that
um you know it's our old paradigm is she breaking up for anybody else okay
can you hear me yeah i can hear you can you hear me now okay um i know in the past and historically
online for kids has been a predatory space and what i'm hoping and what i think that x might
be able to do is just is completely disrupt that and make x a safe place for for kids to where
there has to be a way that's a completely revolutionary because if kids can be on x and
they are safe and there are safeguards there like they don't get any replies from non-verified
accounts you know what i mean um they they don't and maybe kids accounts are free but they don't
see any content from other other people you know other non-verified it would likely need to be a
separate you know a separate thing because right like twitter twitter light art not twitter x
x x kids and have it be a separate platform i could yeah because what when you're when you're
in the platform like for adults there's conversations that you want to have as an adult that are not
appropriate for kids there's stuff i talk about it's not appropriate for kids and it's one of
those things i've grappled with for a long time is like you know people as young as 13 are allowed
on the platform and i i do think that that's something that they should take a look at because
i think it'd be it'd be much smarter to separate and segment this out and you know because x is
doing a million times better i want to make this very clear a million times better about you know
all of these child protection issues than any other social media it's not even close um all
the other major social medias are doing such a horrific job it's unimaginable it's like it's
almost on the precipice of you know aiding and abetting in horrific yeah i watched it uh i watched
linda yakarino at the at this um hearing a week or two ago and she i mean she was the one that
was saying yes we support that yes we support that you know and it was uh just on down the line and
i was so proud i was so proud um but if they're on if they're on x they're not on other platforms
that's the thing if we discount them from x and that's why i think the priority should be making
it safe for kids it may be in a separate area like cordoning that off but making it really
awesome and fun like the adults have we have a lot of fun on x and so and if we can put them
in there they're not going to be on they're not going to be on um the other platforms that are
doing a horrible job so we are keeping them safe because x is the best one for them now anyway
so bring them over and then keep them here you know away from those other platforms anyway
that's just my yeah if if you know if it's something that you want yeah if it's something
you want ever is is up for doing you know like we'll certainly uh give as many ideas as possible
to make it as safe as possible it's always it's always tough you know at scale to do these things
in ways that will be safe for kids and i think that's the most challenging thing but you know
like you said if they're not on one platform then they're on the other so to make this one and we
want it safe for them and we also want great content to where some of these ideas of how do
you spot ideological subversion you know those kinds of things like have actual kid content that
teaches the values that that schools aren't doing anymore and with that i'll i'll um i'll drop the
mic here but thank you so much robbie for answering my questions i really appreciate it
absolutely i i appreciate it too thank you so much um let's go to dr susan
good morning oh good morning good evening everyone how are you hey you're just saying
you know hello to everybody in every different time zone basically and i just want to say wow
i cannot wait to watch your film i'm so proud of you and i'm so thankful and so grateful you know
a lot of women and men have been in this space fighting for our children for years and it's
wonderful that the that the message is being spread because a lot of women and mothers have
been called all kinds of phobic and i think you i think you know what i'm talking about
and the reality is the majority of mothers and fathers do not want their children to be
radicalized into these types of surgeries you know and and and this medicalization
of the american child the medicalization of the western child because this is a phenomenon that
has been going through western europe candidate new zealand australia and the united states
and it is really a phenomenon that has been harming western culture and western civilization
so i really appreciate your additive to that a lot of women have been called you know all your
radical oh my goodness you're phobic you're this you're that when really we have been sounding
the alarm for years and so it's wonderful to see more and more people more and more everyday
people realizing what's been going on and and one thing that i want to add and you know
i still have to see your film so if you have if you have stated this in your film please
i just know i'm not criticizing you i haven't seen it i saw this space i said oh my goodness how
wonderful and um and and then that i'm just adding you know um that we i'm in california and we are
here and we are fighting the most obnoxious laws against the girl the boy the mom the dad and and
fighting the um foster care business of children so so we're fighting um turning the child into
a unit of profit and that's how foster care is in california and that's how foster care has
been across the united states taking yeah we we go in we go into that um you know in some specific
cases and stuff so definitely check out the film um for sure yeah i appreciate it i appreciate
yeah for sure but but one thing that i want to say is that we have to keep pushing the fact
that this is a business this is the corporatization of the human body
into profit okay and so when you say to the woman oh no you you you don't have any rights
oh my gosh you're phobic if you say this you're phobic if you believe that the beating the beating
down of women is saying mama bear move out the way kids move out the way that is what's happening
and women are going oh my god what's what's going on what's going on we have to understand that this
is a multi-billion dollar business the business of moving sexual dimorphism into post-humanism
let's separate man and woman mush them together and push them into post-humanism into transhumanism
this is very very important and and and any talk of oh this that's just feminism oh my goodness
no this is a corporate move to ensure that there is a profit there is a unit of profit
available so the boy child the girl child is on the chopping block and it is a multi-billion
dollar industry that has to be reckoned with so regardless of whether you are a man or a woman
you clap back and fight back and go to your legislator and go and let's let's let's deal
with the fact that this is a business this is an arm of capitalism the gender industrial complex
or not really just capitalism it's a capitalism actually does the inverse it benefits the
individuals as opposed to harming not only the individual but you know the individual overall
it's it's the exact opposite of capitalism actually just that's that's what i was going
to say to it it really is the inverse and it's the perversion of it in many ways um for political
means but you know i thank you so much for your your comments and everything um i i hope
you'll check the movie out war on children.com i think that you will really enjoy it it crosses
into a lot of the subjects that that you're talking about and i think you know when you
watch it you'll be you'll be really happy and be sharing it um for the sake of speed when people
are done with their questions i'm going to take them off stage um so that we can you know get
people through um dr miriam smith you want to jump on hi hi can you hear me yes we can great
i just want to say thanks very much to space agents fantastic and robbie i just wanted to
congratulate you on a absolutely fantastic documentary i thought it was incredibly well
done um i'm a clinical psychologist i work in the public health services in in ireland in the uk
and um uh i just thought the way it was put together the stuff that you covered the psychological
concepts i thought were just you know were brilliant brilliantly covered and brilliantly
put out i thought it was fantastic um i actually work with children with autism so um and this is
the space gender ideology is it is an issue that's disproportionately affecting um children with
autism some studies um some clinics it's it's over sort of 70 80 percent of children that presenting
with gender dysphoria actually are autistic so i mean you covered a lot of that in the doctor
and she was fantastic about the disease and the other mental health difficulties i mean there's
many roads that lead to gender dysphoria you know and i think autism it's certainly certainly in
females is is one of them um i think obviously there's a perfect storm is that kind of gender
pants conformity not perhaps being a prototypical stereotypical um feminine females and also um
combined with that kind of feeling different and you know feeling feeling different from other
people and i think gender ideology the trans community is incredibly appealing for those
children who are sort of you know disenfranchised in some way um and i think so i think it's that
you know it's it's a really big issue and i think that's where i come to it come into it because
i've seen that in clinical practice as well um autistic children disproportionately affected
with this um so i feel i suppose i feel i feel strongly strongly about that and i think you did
it a real a real service the way you put the documentary together and i just wanted to make
a comment really on um i thought it was brilliant the way that you talked about the actual proximate
mechanisms about how i suppose the woke ideology and gender ideology is actually being um i suppose
disseminated the actual proximate mechanism so when you went into the familiarity effect
and the normalization and the sheer exposure the habituation exposure to these concepts
normalize them and that's how i suppose um you know this this ideology is is is infecting people
i mean that's that's the proximate mechanisms which i haven't seen talked about before on a
lot of it so i thought that was that was really good and i think um i think that that also holds
the key that holds the key um solution is part of that is that is if you know the proximate
mechanisms about how this is this is affecting children then i think in some way you can um
you can you can i suppose inoculate against that yeah and i think awareness the awareness
is everything so i mean you know talking to you talking to your children talking you know people
talking to their children about how these mechanisms work so and this can start i think
it's you know it's never too young to start talking to your children about how the way the
world works i mean it's it's it's imperative that you know children feel like the world is a safe
place and and that they have a positive you know safe world view but i think just talking you know
in very small ways to children about i mean i i talk to my children i talk to um you know i talk
to parents about doing this talking about you know advertising so you can talk to you know
six-year-olds seven-year-olds you can talk about what what adverts are you know so you know my
children see stuff on the television they're like oh that looks amazing that toy looks amazing
you can be like oh yeah they're trying to sell you that it's it's not actually as good as that
and you can kind of start to talk to them about how advertising works so that's very kind of
innocuous and that's very that's not going to sort of shatter their world view and make them feel
like the world's not a safe place but it just starts to prime them to the idea that things are
not always as they seem and you know things are trying to be sold to them and it's just it's like
you know by the time they get to the teenage years you know you want to start before the teenagers
you know because once you get to teenagers you know they naturally orient away from their parents
slightly and that's a normal stage of development that's a normal stage of adolescence
but you're not going to be able to take away from their parents and towards their peers so that is
almost too late to start when they're teenagers you know i feel like you have to start talking
about these concepts when when they're younger not in a scary way but in a you know in an information
way about you know how about how tick tock works and how the algorithms are you know programmed
to be addictive you know they're programmed so you're kind of undermining the power of it
holds i suppose it was an actual question
uh mike jacarra is are you still is everything still working oh there we go i'm i'm alive i think
she accidentally muted herself i was gonna say dr mariam you know being in ireland i applaud you
because i know in ireland it is very difficult to speak out about these issues but secondly i was
going to say what she's saying is actually very important in that you know we explain in the film
how they're doing this and the mere exposure effect and the psychological tactic used on youth
and i would encourage parents explain that even you know for the older ones you know if it feels
appropriate show them a piece of of that section and explain this idea because one of the great
things to take power away from these folks is explaining how they do this because when you're a
teenager there's one thing you really don't want adults to do and it's manipulate you and so the
idea that they're manipulating you off the bat can kind of get a reaction that um you know really it
sort of lets you know what what you need to do going forward so i think that's very valuable
for teens and a great uh a great thing for her i think she had some trouble and fell off so we'll
jump to the next question for questions though um i i love listening to everybody but there's a
lot of people have questions so if you can can make it concise down to just the the question
and we'll try to jump through you know and get through as many as possible so the 30-second
message like imagine it's the elevator pitch and you got 30 seconds yeah exactly you got 30 seconds
okay so um i think next up we've got patriot politics research yes uh thank you very much
i'll be short and sweet uh thank you very much for selecting me just to make a short question
i plan on uh running for school board here in northwest indiana and i exposed like how
in our local uh school districts libraries there's more books on satan transgenderism curses
uh witchcraft than jesus christ and then there's only one book in our actual library district that
uh labels him and it says when you type in jesus christ in the online library
it says uh charismatic cult leader and i exposed this and due to being on the uh this the audience
side i decided you know i don't want to be a benchwarmer anymore i don't want to complain
from the sidelines i'm going to put my voice and a name on the line and run for office is there
anything that you can is there any resources robbie or adrienne or wiggle that you guys are aware of
that can help novice informed citizens who want to win and take back our school districts and
and just like how the sound of freedom was um televised at marilago are you going to have
or try to implement uh president donald trump in this message because i do remember him saying
something that he wants to do something with the department of education and how it's so warped so
i'll just leave those questions open thank you so much for allowing me to speak and uh i'm a huge
fan of everyone in this space thank you thank you appreciate the question and good on you for trying
to do something in your community you know i mean that's what we want people to do adrienne wiggle
you guys have any ideas before i start talking too much no no that's all you take the floor
so what i would say is uh to be perfectly honest in elections the number one thing matters the most
in elections is uh name recognition you know it's kind of the mere exposure effect what we're
talking about earlier the more people see your name the more comfortable they become with it
the more likely it becomes they vote for you so win the sign game don't discount how important
it is to knock on doors knocking on doors is massive the when somebody comes to your door
as a politician it shows you that they care about you and they were willing to take the time to come
hear you and so it takes time but knock as many doors as you can and have people who support you
do the same thing knocking on doors and giving people leaving them information if they're not
home um and then i don't know what state you're in but in each state there's usually a method to be
able to get the list of the voters who voted in the most recent primary election i would recommend
getting that you know pay whatever it is to get that list of the people who have voted in the last
three primaries and send them you know mail about what you stand for and be very clear about what
your priorities are and then you've got to trust the american people to make a decision you know
but those are sort of the tried and true methods but um you know i will say win the sign war
that's big people seeing your name over and over and over again it does make a massive impression
on them and you know the other thing too is um so i endorsed a candidate um in tennessee who
um i loved this this tactic was the person they were running against um a sign got put up next to
it uh for their opponent saying this person voted to mask your children and that was like
i said okay you have to do this on every single sign they did this all over they won a landslide
it was amazing but um you know tell the truth about the opponents but without being nasty
people don't like nasty but tell the truth you know because that's information a lot of people
don't know they don't know the name of the person who forced masks their child for two years you
know whatever it was so um you know those those are all fair game and i wish you luck and hope
that uh you know your school board makes makes schools a little bit safer for kids
um i guess we'll jump to let's see here we've got phoenix
hey there um thank you so much for allowing me to um come up on stage as you're in i appreciate it
and i just wanted to ask about the um after effect of your film um i i haven't gotten a chance to
watch it yet but i do intend to um but when you came away from the experience of that um did you
ever find that there was kind of sort of a middle ground where there was a level of humanity from
either side um either them seeing some sort of um understanding of your viewpoint and vice versa
and i'm just curious about the diplomacy that occurred during the process of that film
that's a really really good question um and i'm going to give you two answers
during the making of the film i was desperately searching for it um so you know there's a scene
in the film where we're talking to a drag queen and i'm showing him the images of these hyper
sexualized drag shows that have happened in front of kids where there's nudity and there's all types
of you know stuff the kid should not be exposed to and i'm saying can we at least agree on this can
we agree that this is wrong and he just could not bring himself to condemn it and say like we need
to draw a line in the community here and it's like child safety is is something that we need
to take more seriously and we need to do this it was you know dancing around it not wanting to
say anything negative about it and what was interesting to me this is very human level and
this is just my opinion i can't give you any statistic or anything to back this up and prove
it on a human level you know when you're sitting with somebody and you see them eye to eye and you
can just feel what they're thinking i could feel what i got from him was that he knew this was
wrong and he wanted to say it but it felt like he was so captured by the ideology that he feared
what would happen if he did that maybe within his community he'd be treated a certain way
or be treated like a traitor of some kind for just drawing a line there and that was instructive to
me as to just how deeply this has taken hold because again this is somebody that we spoke to
who had not done one of these shows to our knowledge uh in front of a child you know that
was like these hyper sexualized shows that have happened and i was actually going into it hoping
we would find sort of a middle ground line that they could agree like okay yes a line needs to be
drawn here and you know because ran paul and i talk in the film and and ran says something that
like i think people don't remember remember enough is he's like when did you ever hear a republican
complaining about drag shows in the past like we didn't care adults want to go do that it's
it's your choice as an adult go to a drag show it was the line is really children it's like just
don't you know get into inappropriate sexual outfits and dance for kids that doesn't seem
like that should be that difficult to agree on but unfortunately this ideology has captured a
certain group of people and made them feel like prisoners in their own minds where they can't tell
the truth about even what they know to be wrong and so that's that's sad it's it's kind of frightening
because it's kind of like deprogramming from a cult i'm not sure a hundred percent how we do
that on a wide scale but it's something that we're going to be facing and we need to find
solutions to over time but the second answer i'd give you is that after the film came out
i will say i have received messages slash emails from people who they don't share my exact political
beliefs and they found the film to be fascinating instructive they learned a lot from it and they
now agree on a host of issues that they did not agree on before with me and that was really great
to me because we wanted to present this in a way where it was like this doesn't need to be partisan
it shouldn't be that you know like for instance we just had a bill um we have actually a bill in
multiple states where we're trying to get the death penalty for horrific child rape you know
we're talking like the most egregious cases of child rape in the country you cannot get the
death penalty for which a lot of people don't know and so we're trying to make that the law in
many different places and it's just sad in committee to see that this is all on partisan
lines there is nothing else in the bill it is strictly you can go read the bill you know in
tennessee uh read the bill we have here it's written by william lambirth it's a friend of
mine he's in the documentary and it's it's just a one issue bill if you are a her if it's a horrific
child rape of a child under the age of 13 13 or under you can receive the death penalty for doing
it okay the democrats and committee voted against it republicans voted for it it should not be this
way there should be issues we can all agree on and this is by the way not even a mandatory death
penalty this is giving judges the ability to give the death penalty in these egregious cases where
it is just undeniable it's on it's on video there's there's all types of evidence
if you can't get us to agree on that i'm not sure you know what the next step is in terms of the
party politics of this because that really bothers me because the normal people who reach out to me
who didn't agree with me on certain segments of politics they watch the film and they agree on
these issues like they're agreeing on the child protection stuff so i think there's a a major
difference between your hardcore activists your elected politicians and normal people normal
people whether they disagree on taxes or whatever else are able to agree on child protection issues
the politicians are terrified of the activists who are all held hostage by the ideology
and that's the problem we need to solve next
so thank you for that question um i guess we'll jump to darby thank you thank you so much
thank you thank you for your time today um i wanted to step into uh the option of privatizing
schools or possibly even holding um you know more and more people are resorting to home schooling
at least i believe so and um what is stopping them from organizing schools or you know in their
communities um that are more privatized for their own curriculums as opposed to uh having to go to
public schools and private schools um i'm talking about not necessarily private on a religious
level but private on a community level and the second question that i have is uh in our spaces
earlier this week in one that i was hosting we had discussed uh the opportunity of taking
or providing the options of kids being homeschooled on x in spaces so for instance uh you know we
could hold a a space for sociology a space for writing a written tech you know everything all
these different ones for different uh and different age groups and categories and so on and so forth
based on curriculums that are made by the parents and made by the the you know like the the past
what has worked in the past um in in a positive measure for for growth and learning what is it
what is the uh possibility of expanding that to x and having some type of uh parental you know with
child uh space where they can learn and get the education there um as opposed to going to
uh a school you know that is going to influence them in in things that the parents aren't agree
in agreeance with yeah so i'll answer the second part uh first and then i may need you to clarify
on the first part but the second part of that i think it kind of goes back to what i was discussing
earlier with stacy where we really need to separate the adult app versus anything any
new feature we want to give to kids in my mind i think that's the safest way to do it
um because a kids app could have plenty of content that's educational and have you know approved
teachers you know say some sort of process for that where you could have you know real learning um
different skills and things like that like tools for that i think that that's a possibility if it
was something that you know x believed in i think it definitely would have to be separate though
because um kids are just so good so fast on tech that like if the mom goes to make lunch
they can swipe down on the spaces and they're you know in the search bar and they're discovering
porn you know so you you have to you have to be really smart about how you do this stuff to make
sure that you're you're always veering towards safety now your first question about privatization
can you kind of expand on what you mean by that because i'm not sure i understand what you're
saying you're saying public schools well i'm in the hands of um um of what i'm trying to say is
that uh well you know with the way things have gone with religion a lot of churches now have
gone uh aren't able to be funded like they are and a lot of the churches are closing or resorting to
community uh community centers um and uh you know because more people can find uh religious um
religious um uh they can go online and and receive their religious uh service um as as an online
method um my thought is if if these churches that are folding lately and recently are resorting to
community services um what's to stop the community from turning those churches into schools for the
community type of thing if that makes sense yes so i mean i think one of the things you're describing
is happening more so in rural communities than than a lot of other places and so in rural
communities i think it's community by community they have to look at what they have do you are
do you have enough churches filling the needs of that community and if you do you know do you not
have enough schools because a lot of rural communities only have one choice and that's one
of the beauties of you know school choice is that you know it's resulting in some of those
communities getting new schools because of just the fact that people have the money to create a
second option now so i think that's that's a good thing i i trust the market of parents to kind of
dictate what happens if that makes sense because parents are going to try to get the best thing
for their kids and if it's a new school somebody with an entrepreneurial spirit who's you know
very passionate about it is going to try to develop something so i i think that's kind of
what we have to uh to try to cater toward um so i'll jump to nft uh nft goals
i think he might be asleep at the mic right now
all right we'll we'll bring up anna next anna anna voice on x you're up next
i think she's connecting now
anna are you there are you connecting
anna might also be asleep at the wheel hurry there we go there's anna
hi good morning uh from india actually i'm logging from there and i watched your movie
in fact with a lot of pauses but uh even being an adult i had difficulty processing
all this that you had shown in the movie because i i just couldn't believe that things like that
were happening now my question is do you think and over the course of your research
do you think this could also be a worldwide phenomena
that is a fantastic question and i can tell you 100 percent anna it is a worldwide phenomena it's
just worse here right now but if you think about it on a worldwide scale from trends like just
think about the way trends work the u.s has for many decades really kind of been a trendsetter
in many ways and so that's why you see the spread happening the same way you saw it in past trends
well where does it spread next after the u.s to europe and europe is going through a lot of
these same issues with their youth and i would say you know unfortunately we're going to start
to see more of it in countries um where it's it's it's going to be harder for the left to get these
things in but they're going to try to even in places like india where you have you know i think
a very very strong hindu population that will push back against these things but you're still
going to get them trying to influence and underpin that next generation and reach them in ways that
the older generation doesn't understand so people need to be aware and have their eyes open in
places like india to make sure that this doesn't become the problem it has become in america
because trust me you do not want to deal with the situation that we have here
because if it's not fixed we face a reality where the future of america as a global superpower is
one where it's run by the people who believe this stuff in totality for for you know i mean
to be honest if they if they wrestle control of it entirely our country
i don't think you get it back for 50 years um maybe longer i think i think it's a really long
arduous painful road to getting the country back to any semblance of sanity and so that's why i'm
trying to wake people up as many as i can now to do the work and i think elon's doing the same
thing people like adrian are doing it in our own little ways like we're all trying to just kind
of like shake people awake recognize the moment we're in and understand that it's critical that
we all do something to secure our area our community because if you think about it almost
like bubble wrap and this is one of the weirdest analogies i've ever given and i have no idea where
it just came from but if you think about all of this like bubble wrap um we're all one little
bubble and if all of us take care of our little bubble if you take an eagle eye view and you look
at that bubble wrap well suddenly the whole thing's protected you know and so i think we all have to
kind of be the protectors the warriors of our community and make sure we've got that taken
care of because if we do there's somebody like us in the next community doing the same thing so
i appreciate the question anna and i appreciate you watching because i know it's hard to watch
and uh you are awesome for doing so please spread the word in india because we really appreciate it
sherry you want to jump in sure thanks adrian for hosting great spaces as always and
thanks robbie for doing this um mine is more of a comment than it is a question um i have a seven
year old autistic granddaughter and i can tell you that it is every parent and grandparents
responsibility to always be honest and open and inform them back when she was started kindergarten
last year on our route to school there was transgender flags pride flags always flying
in one yard and she asked what they were i explained to her what they were she went about her way
a few weeks later months went by then she started saying oh i want to be a boy i want to be a boy
and i'm like no you're a girl it's fine being a girl and she kept going with this and then it
slowly has changed and so my kind of question comment is like how do we really protect the
autistic community because they are the ones that are i feel being targeted at the hardest because
they're the most vulnerable and easy to manipulate wow what what did what a good question um and i i
feel i i have some people that i know that i care about a lot um who are on the spectrum
and so you know there's vulnerabilities as we were going through the film and we identified
just how vulnerable the autistic population was to this it was definitely something we thought
really deeply about and it's again we came back to like we have got to awaken these parents because
if the parents don't know that this is a serious risk to the long-term well-being of their child
who is going to step in because the reality is the medical system is totally bought into this
so the moment that they say that you know they they think they're confused or whatever it means
that it's going to happen i mean there's so few doctors willing to step in and try to bring them
back to reality we really need to shake parents awake and make them understand what this road
means it's it's not a quirky thing it's not a cute thing that's going to get you attention
from friends like you need to recognize the seriousness of this the road it leads down
the pain it leads to because many of these kids around the spectrum are incredibly intelligent
in so many ways and i would warn those parents i would caution them when those kids wake up and
they realize what has been done to them it is going to be unforgivable and you you really need
to try to focus them in other areas that are areas of interest and make sure that they have
the tools to thrive in those areas of interest and try to to really divert their attention in that
direction so that this becomes something that you know if it is a persistent issue they get talk
therapy for and you try to keep the focus on what they're great at and build their identity around
what they're great at and what they care about and not around their sexuality or around gender
or things like that because it's only going to push them into deeper into this essentially
and i think in general that's a great thing for people to remember about identity like our
identity should not be built around you know who we have sex with okay and i think it's destructive
to teach kids that that is your identity your identity is in in your in your faith in your
choices your character your morality your integrity you know it's in the choices we make
every day certainly should not be in sexual proclivities you know and because if your
identity is in the right place you're not going to have weird sexual proclivities that are like
into this this territory so that that's that's kind of what i would say about that
um sherry did i think sherry got yeah i just want to follow up with something real quick too
it's just to kind of warn parents and grandparents to be the voice for your child grandchild because
if you see flags in the classroom don't stand for that it's not okay it's never been okay and it
should never be okay and you have to be the voice because they don't understand and they ask they're
curious autistic kids they're smart like you said they're highly intelligent and they're always
curious and so you have to feel that curiosity but you have to be the voice to stand up to the
school district the schools and let them know it's not okay if i can't have a christian flag in class
then you can't have your gay pride flag or your transgender flag or any of the other flags in
class i mean it's just it's that simple well you identified the very basic premise here which is
that you know if you have a school that is supposed to be for everybody then nobody should
be messaging their political beliefs or anything else and that's that's sort of the funny thing
some people have responded to being been like robbie you just want people to think like you
and it's like well actually i just want us to teach kids to critically think and not be
indoctrinated to at all i don't want them indoctrinated with my beliefs or yours i think i trust
like my kids i trusted them enough to give them the best arguments from both sides and to say
what do you think and challenge my kids to think and thankfully all my kids are smart enough to
agree with me um no i joke because we do disagree on on little things you know like my uh my oldest
child who's 15 um she's she's uh i would say i have i'm a little more forgiving to people who
make and make mistakes in life she she's hardcore like you do not want her to be your judge in in
court i'll tell you that you do not want her to be your judge um so we we have our fun like
disagreements we go through together um but when you challenge your kids to critically think that's
what you're going to get you're going to get you know kids who are convicted in certain areas where
they're like no this is my this is this is my line and i'm drawing it and this is what i believe and
it's a beautiful thing to see i mean i'm i'm incredibly proud of them but also you know make
sure your kids are informed about like the country we live in you know this is something
that kind of amazes me is how few kids today even know what their rights are or our founding
documents have any sort of idea of what they are like my 15 year old had the amendments memorized
all of them and not just memorized like it was like some parlor trick but like she knew them she
knew what they meant and you know what the what the practice of them was by the time she was
probably 10 years old um and it's because it was considered like mandatory reading you know like
read this it's an important thing every american should read it you know and she saw that it
mattered to me so it mattered to her and she you know knew that to our family those those freedoms
were valuable and so you know i think all those education things are important along the way
and they serve to make them prouder of the the ideals we're supposed to have as a country
so i appreciate uh everything you had to say austin you want to jump in
yeah hey robbie i am uh i don't know if you remember me from your dms the other day but i'm
not sure everybody's aware of just how deeply rooted this whole thing is in our in our
education system they are pushing this on teachers and they're they're constantly evolving they're
strategies to do this and learning from their mistakes and they're incredibly dedicated to this
and i have been uh recently spinning my wheels trying to get this in front of
get this in front of people in our government that can actually make a change about this as well as
people that you know just everyday people so i'm wondering my question to you you had hold on let
me let me preface you if i if i remember correctly or the one you sent me uh documents
that are being fed to teachers all over america via um i forget which method it was but it's
it's been sent to them by the government through the what system is it it's going through it's
the eric database which is um it's a free that database is feeding them free studies and things
like that but it's pushing them woke ones on purpose correct yes and most all of them that i
found aren't even actual studies they're just kind of these these theories from people like uh fukul
and um judith butler who like marks this theory parading as fact basically but the government's
sending it yeah no it was surprising me when you sent me that because um you know i i consider
myself pretty well versed on all the craziness going on i actually did not know they were doing
that and when you sent that to me um i retweeted because i thought that that is just another angle
they're coming in on to you know put this in front of teachers that they're feeding them these these
woke materials and saying you know we're presenting this is fact essentially
exactly and the i mean that that database is littered with hundreds of these articles and
hundreds more references that are outside of the database that these these journals use
but um so i've i've obviously been trying to expose this to just the everyday citizens but
i've also been sending these to my congressman to my senators and i'm not i'm not really getting any
anything back from anyone and i'm wondering if you have any advice on how to more effectively
get this in front of people in power like that yeah so um i'm gonna give you a couple answers
here and one of them you're not going to like but it's sadly the truth about our current congress
makeup and it's that you you want to get their attention um send them like a three to five
thousand dollar campaign donation and and that's horrible and i'm not actually seriously telling
you to do that because don't they don't deserve it um but sadly that's who they're listening to
and you know the reality is are there good members of congress absolutely and you know i
count them as friends and i think there's some people who really want to make change there but
when we're talking about the majority that it takes to get something passed um it's largely
made up of those people who are only listening to people who are making you know close to max
donations to their campaigns um and that's that's where things have been broken for a while because
the incentives are all wrong for good normal people to want to run for office
and that's a dangerous thing that that i do believe is going to be fixed i know some people
who have been working hard on this to make sure that we turn back toward the intentions of our
founders but outside of that um what can you do because it's not enough to throw up your hands
and go oh well this sucks um you know there's a couple things to understand so the 2024 election
is going to be very important because a lot of this stuff is really actionable as well on an
executive level because through congress the excuse you're going to get even from a lot of
well-meaning people is that they really don't have a really great mechanism through legislation to
deal with this issue but the executive branch can and especially if you did away with the
department of education on a national level which some people who are not familiar with how education
works in our country might go like do away with the department of education that's crazy
but you all have one in your state um on a state level you have a department of education
and they know your state better than the federal department of education does in fact oftentimes
they're pulling in totally different directions and it's confusing for schools it's confusing
for teachers and really the only people who will defend this bizarre setup is teachers unions and
some of the academic curriculum-based interests that benefit from it and so um it's it's not
necessary it's duplicative if america was a business i would have done away with it a million
years ago okay i mean like it would have never been created and so you know let's try to put
power back in that place so doing everything you can to make sure that the executive branch is
in the hands of somebody who is not going to continue this far is important and i think
there's really you know we've got kind of a binary option for 2024 and i think that within
you know trump's campaign there's definitely people who agree with me on this on the federal
department of education who will have a lot of power to do good things so i think that that's
step one and there's big believers in school choice in the trump camp trump himself believes
in school choice so i think if you're looking at it in a binary sense you know that's that's one
avenue another one is you know what state are you in austin i'm based out of north carolina i
actually just moved up here i'm originally from texas so north carolina i mean i i could connect
you um with somebody in your state that um you know has has political pool to try to see what
they can do but i'm just being very honest with you in advance in this congress they're not going
to do anything now what would be interesting is if you could get members of your state legislature
this is a secret for everybody on this your state representative state level not the person who goes
to dc but the person who goes to your state capital who is your local state representative
that person generally has time to meet with their constituents and they meet with constituents much
more often than your federal member of congress does that goes to dc those ones are much harder
nail down and talk to but the ones who go to your state legislature they're usually the type you can
get a hold of and either email get a phone call with or grab a coffee with on a state level you
may be able to get some surprising things done if you present this to them and show them what's
being done they may be able to pass something that bars the feds from being able to do this
and at least in your state so that's one way to try to create change on a local level
and it's much easier to get to those people and kind of hear out what their concerns might be
or maybe they just run away with the idea and say this is amazing we're going to do this
so that's that's where i would start if i were you um hopefully i answered answered your question
no yeah perfectly i i really appreciate your time and uh again i'll really appreciate what you're
doing thank you sarah go ahead and jump in
sarah you there your microphone working oh hi hi can you hear me yeah yep sorry just give me one
second i'm just running inside god no no worries if you want we can come we could come to you next
if you want a second oh no i'm here i'm inside yeah okay my question um what do you think about
the school catchment policy it's a done purposely for control of education and where the money goes
do you like for example like a poor area that doesn't necessarily have poor people in it but
they can find only schools they live next door to what's your opinion on that um if i'm being
perfectly honest um i'm gonna go ahead and mute your mic because we can hear you we can hear your
water but um if i'm being perfectly honest this is a form of social engineering that has gone on
for a long time um locking kids in certain areas into certain schools and i think that it's been
sadly effective and has led to the continuation of you know really terrible crime problems terrible
education outcomes terrible outcomes on an overall fatherlessness in the homes you go on and on it's
perpetuated existing problems and made them worse and so again like what problem do you face in life
or business where you continually face the same issue of failure over and over again and you say
you know what we should do next is spend more money doing the same thing and it continually
is a failure and then you're like oh you know what let's spend some more money doing the same thing
and you do that over and over and over again for decades no business would survive okay it's
ludicrous like any anybody in business will laugh at you if that was your idea is like hey let's
just keep doing the same thing that is failing miserably so something has to change and and
that's that's why you know i didn't even expect to talk about school choice honestly um i don't
even know how we got there but school choices is really a big fix to a lot of these issues so
i appreciate the uh the question and i think uh i think if we're being really honest there's a lot
of social engineering involved so hey thank you so much nft you want to jump in now you've been
hey what's up robbie no good baby how you doing man you good i'm doing good how are you
you sound great man adrian wiggle everybody i'm glad you guys are doing well hey i subscribed
to you robbie i'll pay you five bucks a month to do what you're doing brother because i appreciate
the fight man you know it's just so it's like a twilight zone it's like so weird bro it's like
so i grew up in a cuban italian household right and like this is like doesn't process through
my mother-in-law or my father-in-law or anybody's whoa whoa wait wait wait wait wait
cuban and italian that had to be the loudest house honors yeah correct correct
and it always wait this is okay so i'm gonna tell a funny story real quick and you probably uh
tell people this is waiting but i'm not muting because i'm loud okay so check this out my the
first time my wife met like all my cousins uh we were i took her we were in florida and we went to
to lunch with all them because a bunch of them live in Miami Florida not Tampa no no they're
in Miami and um i i warned her before i said honey just so you know it's gonna sound like
they're fighting but i promise you they are not fighting is that not legit how it is with with
cuban families like it'll sound like they are so pissed at each other but that is just a normal
conversation oh bro if you want to just hurt me and my wife i've been with her 13 years bro you
would have hurt me and my wife you know if you would have just hurt me and my wife right now you
would have thought some domestic dispute was going on but the thing about it is bro here look it's
weird bro all this weird shit that's going on let me tell everybody here how many people are
how many people are in the room well 453 people look bro you want to do something you want to
make a change bro do not normalize none of that weird shit bro you guys know it's wrong
it's weird like so bro like these people tried to tell me to put the mask on and no i'm not putting
none of your masks on i'm not doing none of that weird shit bro because it's it's not normal it's
not okay and like you have to individualize yourself like do not allow these type of
normalities to come into your life just because like you don't want to be like not accepted
because it's like a vicious circle right so like the reason it's accepted is because
everybody accepts it and because everybody accepts it it's normalized right it's like a
weird deal it's like a circle of like viciousness and it's like it's it's it hurts it hurts me to
see that type of stuff it's just gonna get worse too i know my wife just texted me you're loud
that's that's you know yeah yeah that's the that's the Cuban side you know can't help it
no Robbie let me tell you brother so look the thing about it is brother if i if i try to explain
any of this weirdness to my mother-in-law it won't process in her head like i'm on x and like
you know i i work on social media and like and like i understand like this this type of like
uh social mommy yeah yeah yeah wait my flight i don't live here but you know but the thing about
it is is like if you try to explain that to people like my mother-in-law they won't process in their
head because it's just not normal like she cooks she cleans she stays at home she pays you know
my my father-in-law he pays the bills and that's the end of the story i grew up with my mother
she she stayed at home and whatever that's not normal like i like nowadays it's fine i i come
home and i cook and i clean and i wash clothes and it's fine but what i'm saying is is is like
this this this normalization of like like you know uh basically this this homosexuality that's
coming in once god came out of the classroom because when i went to school i'm 33 years old
when i went when i went to school i did the pledge of allegiance and it was that was just
what we did right like i don't know how old you are it's not even it's not even like normalization
of that it's it's really it's it's it's it's it's much further along than anything like that it's
what do you mean robbie it's act they're actively pushing for kids oh i've seen it i've seen it i've
seen the meetings i've seen the meetings of the teachers that's it's even it's much worse than
normalizing like hey you know this is going on in society it is we're actively recruiting and
there's sick people robbie but the thing about it is is that that's a fun that's that's coming from
a fundamental place brother is the thing about it is because of the normalization because these
people have been taught they've been directed to do that because these people did not grow up like
that these people are in their 30s these people's in their 40s these people in their 50s the same
ages they did not grow up with that brother so like they've been directed to do that they've
been normalized to do that that's not coming from a place of like oh like all of a sudden oh let me
just get this grand idea to make all these kids gay that's not like a thing that just that's been
normalized and the thing about it you've been shamed into doing it and then like you've been
shamed just like you were shamed into wearing the mask just like you were shamed into doing this
this and this it's like they're putting it further and further you take it you take a hand
and they they take the whole arm is the problem and like so like when i walk up to people it
doesn't process in my head like for you to tell me like you're mentally ill you're not
sorry if you muted me i can't hear who's talking if you
oh oh elon what's up baby
you good yes that's definitely yes definitely not
adrian i just want to tell you i enjoy your spaces very much and everything that you talk
about like the intellectual parts of like your ai stuff i listen to it and jump in sometimes
i'm mute now but uh yeah but i appreciate you hosting this space and bringing attention to
this issue because it is a it is a big issue bro that people should be talking about
it's important it's important and the normalization of this kind of stuff
like what people could do on an individual level is is make people feel uncomfortable
when they see stuff like this like no it's not okay yeah we have a lot of people on the stage
we'll we'll kind of need to move on but i'll say man you are thank you for coming out
you know come here and do a single god bless you so i'm sorry by the way that i i'm sorry i fell off
my uh app crashed so i had to come back and i didn't hear anything it was just asked there
was a question i apologize that i did not answer that i was just saying so that was just saying
so by the way i'll be your next all right thanks adrian uh yeah so adrian uh i guess
challenged me i guess um to comment i was talking with him via dm so my question robin uh i apologize
i have not seen your video yet but i guess i have two questions um the first one it sounded like and
maybe i guess the second one flows from the first one but it sounded like earlier you were saying
that you know drag shows for kids need to be outlawed but then later on you said well i trust
the parents to make the best decision so those two things to me seem to run pretty contradictory to
one another so i just want to know how you square that circle very very very good question i'm
actually really glad you asked that because uh that's something that has come up on on the
other side quite a bit and so to be perfectly clear i trust parents to choose the school that's
best for their kids uh because they know the way that their child learns they know if their kid is
more interested in one type of thing or another i use my own son as an example he's more geared
toward engineering um where there are lines drawn in society are where there are very clear harms
you know a parent doesn't have the right to pimp their child out a parent doesn't have the
right to inject their kid with heroin a parent doesn't have the right to take their son to a
strip club they don't have the right to take their kid to a bar and get them drunk nor should they
have the right to take them to a drag show where a drag queen has their breasts out and is doing
inappropriate sexual dances i think all of those things those are at that line where there is a
social or has been a social understanding for a very very long time that there's boundaries
some things are adult i mean drag shows literally for all of my life up until the past couple years
were titled adult entertainment for a reason adults did it and so you know i think that uh
what we've done in tennessee is we just made that the case you know under the color of the law we
made it clearer than it already was that it is adult entertainment so you're entitled you alvi
you want to go to a drag show you can nobody should stop you from that you're an adult this
united states of america you want to go do that um you know that's your choice but nobody should
be bringing a child to that drag show so i hope that answers the question if you have another one
i'm happy to answer it yeah i mean i guess a follow-up to that is i mean is is the definition
of a drag so kind of the i know it when i see it or like how is that going to be defined because
there seems like there could be a lot of things that are not clearly are very are not clear in
in terms of this is a drag show this is not so yeah under the color of the law you have to be
very clear because there has to be something that is able to be recognized so say here in
the law in tennessee it's actually not about drag shows i know it's been called the drag
bill across the country but if you read the bill it never says the word drag it's about adult sexual
performances so those are defined very similarly to things like burlesque and things along those
lines where essentially there are clear simulations of sexual movements and beyond that you know
obviously nudity would fall under adult you know behaviors that go into this law so if you read it
it's it's pretty explicitly clear as to how that you know lies and you'd have to know how to read
through the statutes because it connects to other statutes so you've got to read the connecting
statutes to fully understand it but under the color of the law it is pretty pretty damn clear
that essentially you know it is one of those things an adult understands and you know what's
interesting when you watch the film and i really hope you watch it you'll see we interview a drag
queen in it and you know one of the things that they reply is that well you know we showed them
this image of a drag show that occurred in austin texas where they were twerking for this child
who's probably five six years old and their genitals are coming out of the g-string they're
wearing and their response to us was something along the lines of well they do this at the
titans game with cheerleaders and my wife said they they wear g-strings at the titans game and
and obviously that's they're not wearing g-strings at the titans game and ironically what he did
there was he identified the line that society had sort of set for a very long time that that is the
line right there where adults were comfortable that you know a pre-done you know dance routine
in in clothes like that was was sort of the line you know because they're not nude they're not
wearing g-strings it's you know akin to the type of performance you see at a high school cheerleading
event um you know that that pretty much is that that line you know which is one that can be
arbitrary at times and i understand that and can empathize with people who are like oh well
where is the line but the truth is if everybody's being intellectually honest they know that the
intent here is not like let's hurt drag queens the intent here is let's stop predators and let's
stop situations where kids are being sexualized when we should be protecting their innocence
and so i think if we're intellectually honest we can all see where that line is and know what's not
appropriate and be able to you know really set those standards as a country
all right thanks for answering
thank you uh i appreciate it would you pass uh i'll be would you pass also wish to weigh in on
the opinions on the ei because um quite frequently i do troll you a little bit because i think it's
just hilarious um but i would like to probably like get your classification what do you think
the ei is how do you think it's being executed and you know what's your take on it
yeah um i know there are other people online so i'll let them go i also have something to do
right now but i will come back on um and i can speak more about that sure before before you go
i want to tell you something dm me and because i know you're you're coming from kind of a different
viewpoint i'll send you a free screener and i would love to hear what your thoughts are after
you watch it and you know tell me you know what you think or what questions you have because
i do think it'll be instructive for you as to where we're coming from and the issues there are
because i know you know for some folks who have different opinion they won't want to pay to watch
it so that's fine i want i want you to see it anyways so go ahead and send me a dm all right
we'll do all right scott you want to jump in yeah hey can you hear me yep we got you
so i saw the movie it was uh well done and um thanks for the space um it's a really important
topic and you know just quickly i i don't think i would have watched the movie if elon hadn't uh
put it out there into the world just to take a look at it just normally it and this is my
own programming i think that uh it would come off or i would prejudge this as being something
coming from the right i watched the movie and it absolutely is not that and this issue
shouldn't be right or left it's human rights it's health concerns it's parental rights
child rights um you know we're seeing i'm up in the great white north in canada and we see the
same thing up here so the movie it's having an impact i would say not just in the folks in the
states who see it but also in canada and globally so good for you um i have two daughters this
you know and sorry i'll get to the question in a second um two daughters this was these
these conversations came up all the time and continue to come up my uh oldest daughter had
more of an issue uh making friends she's more internalizes more she's more uh very empathetic
and and but this was an issue with her that i saw my younger daughter socially she's in dance she
plays soccer she's active i think the difference that difference when i stand back and look at it
as a dad that difference keeping my you try to keep number one really active but she's just not
that type of kid and then the her friend group aside from what she was seeing at school and
the type of ideology that was being pumped through the schools because it's up here as well
um the friend groups are hugely important i don't believe that you can take your kids out of school
and home school not everybody can do that so my question to you is
you know i think if as this as this develops i guess having the literature the idea is the
ability to go to uh leaders in the community or school board and say hey look this we need to
have an open conversation the information is being limited it's one-sided free flow of information
let you know having that that interview you did with a the young lady um who had the double
mastectomy um that's that's horrific and sad and that's happening every day um so having her being
informed and not just from one side how do you so i guess that how do we tackle this because the
slow drip has filled the bucket and it's overflowing now and it's and i'm trying to think of when this
all started and i i can't i honestly that slow drip just it's over time anyhow i'll mute myself
and if the question i guess is other than you know being informed and and watching movies like yours
how in a community at a community level how do you or even having a conversation with your kids
because they don't listen to us anymore they they don't the the more powerful thing and the
these technologies are so pervasive and everywhere and their friends are
tiktok and instagram and are and their friends they listen to these things more than they do
mom and dad so um yeah i'll just i'll mute myself and and i don't know if you got a question out of
that yeah no i did and first i want to say thank you to you you know for for watching it with an
open mind and you know being able to say that i thought that was actually kind of amazing i went
to imdb a friend of mine sent me the imdb page for the movie and they said read the reviews and
i read the reviews and they were pretty much every single one was about the fact that they were not
expecting it to be a movie that people from any political ideology could watch and identify with
and so that meant a lot to me because you know as much as i have my own political views
i care the most about this issue about child protection as a dad because i see how it relates
to the long-term survival of our country you know the country up north where you live and and just
the human race as a whole and for us to reach our potential we have to to really protect this next
generation so i appreciate you saying that and in terms of like how what is the next step you know
my wife did put out the manual at freedomforever.us where if you sign up for the email list
they email you back with that for free nobody asked for money or anything that was very important
to us that it's like here's just action items things you can do nobody's asking you to pay
for anything and i think that has a lot of great ideas for parents to kind of like jump off from
but secondary to that i would say this like we we made this film the best thing that that you
could do is share it with people who do not understand what's going on i don't just want
to sell the movie to people who agree with me and it's why we made it free on x for a decent
period of time because we want to make it accessible so that people can see it and so share it with
those people wake them up because the more of them who are awake it changes the way they parent their
kids and it changes the community as a byproduct and when a community changes and it veers back
into you know the the correct you know lane of of getting us back to sanity the better off we're
all going to be so you know i i really appreciate it and hopefully that inspires somebody to share
this and to wake some people up faith in let me see what it is faith sunshine you're you're up next
hi um good evening afternoon everyone um i'm a single parent of twin boys
i actually had one of them very much on the spectrum but undiagnosed and i had to take
him out of school because he was getting bullied very badly um they're 18 now but he was 14
i went to the police they couldn't do anything the school wouldn't do anything it was definitely
um i looked mum no hands type situation i didn't hesitate i took him out
that day and didn't send him back but the other twin joey he kept going until october until he
decided he didn't want to go back um we are low income in a um a very rich area i'm blessed enough
to have government housing um before i became a single parent i had my own business i'm also a
woman of color so i live in a very um monocultured area um so i have an observation more than i have
a question i have a medical question at the end but my um observation being a parent a concerned
parent coming from a country where um our Māori tribal upbringing meant that you were never ever
allowed to nor would you even think about being rude to your elders so what i'm seeing is that
there's been a real disempowerment of parenting and it's become politicized and i've noticed this
over like the 10-15 years that the fracturing of the family unit seems to be pervasive
in governmental um situations where we are too scared to yell at our kids um if they're doing
something you you you were more having to try and reason with a frontal cortex that's not
developed and then as uh robbie said sorry i also have to preface that i haven't seen the film yet
i haven't had time to watch it but the trans thing is something that came up last year so i did a
three-month deep dive while i was in my sewing room i um i wasn't as aware like it came up in
the kitchen one day my son held up the phone and he said what do you think of this and he showed me
a tiktok of a trans teenager and i before i let him speak and make a judgment on that person's
personality i actually said you know even if somebody has done something to themselves we
still have to give them the basic respect of being human but because i kind of in inverted
commas lost my shit because um in the 90s um um my partner and i at the time we shared our sewing
room with some drag queens in oxford street sydney and it was called drag bag and they were
beautiful people and but it was a lot harder to transition i think there was less than five
psychiatrists in the whole of australia that were allowed to um allow someone to um transition so it
was something that had to the decision had to be made before puberty but they also had to go
through rigorous psychiatric assessment so um what i'm seeing in terms of like the disempowerment
of parenting parents and into the politic politicized parenting and the mob mentality of
generation z because my kids are in generation z it's like they've almost kind of swiped a whole
generation and they've taken away the power like i mean look i kind of my kid one of my children
has called the police on me twice because i could see what was going on with the friend group we
haven't had any issues with this trans um situation personally um and um i've raised my twins on my own
since they were nine months old i had to leave a domestic violence situation um so what what my
observation is in terms of the social contagions and the disempowerment of parents and also the
socioeconomic place where i live i live on the northern beaches of sydney which is one of the
richest areas of um australia um but a lot of it the is not old money it's new money so i call them
no hands parents because they will adopt a trend just because everybody else is doing these parents
and i'm a bit of a rebel i'm a bit of an anomaly i don't go the mainstream i tend to go away from
it um so i stick out like dog's balls for want of a better word um also i'm a minority in a very
monoculture area so my observation is that you know how are we meant to keep our children safe
i mean look i'm very i'm not i'm not unwell but i'm very tired because my kids are 18 now i'm still
doing this by myself on virtually no money and they've come out good but my son the creative
one on the ADHD i'm ADHD as well but undiagnosed he kind of ran wild he's the older twin he was
three and a half minutes older than um the other one and um that not that means anything but um
they're very different boys it's very hard to parent twins when they're both very different
in their mental state and foods and stuff so where what i want to ask how it's not as bad in
australia it's pretty bad in new zealand because they've actually made it a crime to hit children
you can go to jail for that um not i'm not purporting or saying that you should hit children
but basically in a nutshell what i'm saying is that they've taken the ability for us to discipline
our children away from us my child was so badly bullied um there it was it's sorry i'm getting a
bit emotional it was a 92 on one bully situation where they bum rushed him through the school
one kid it was an all boys school one kid distracted the um whole the monitor so that he
got bullied but anyway i don't want to digress over there so the question i have is i've been
thinking because i did a deep dive three three months last year i listened to jordan peterson
i listened to blair white i listened to um all of them and i mean jordan that was hard listening to
jordan because he couldn't get to the point quick enough and there was that lady i've forgotten her
name um off the top of my head she came to australia and there was and when she went to new zealand
they threw eggs at her or something and of course i didn't think enough i was like oh my god she was
rude to an aboriginal woman i'm gonna block my mind but i thought no logically i better deep dive
her too and so my thought processes have changed because i can see where she's coming from
so i guess um sorry i'm very nervous but i guess it's okay no i i get the sense of of what you're
saying you know the general question is how do we protect how do we protect our kids is there
any science that can implore with children about the transition and teenhood and puberty and all
that can we show them the science yes yeah thank you yes so watch watch the film um you know go go
right now um honestly you can hop off we're probably going to do one more question so
hop off go to my page and scroll down you'll see the one that is uh i retweeted elon musk
when he posted the full film watch the full film tonight before it goes off of of being free
oh check it out because i actually bookmarked it the other day i just haven't had time to sit
down for a couple of hours because normally i listen to my information but this one yeah
watch it this you know i'd actually like to see it watch it this yeah yeah watch it this weekend
it has all the stats and studies inside of it so you can screenshot a screen record or whatever you
want and then you've got them forever but in terms of protecting kids you know um i would say
that you know that and this may be unpopular but if your kids are 18 um you can only protect them
so much at that point and it's why it's such an important job before they're 18 to implement the
stuff that we're talking about and to you know have these conversations and explain to them
who is trying to manipulate them why and how and you know use some of the tools that we've given
in the manual for parents to be able to use to protect their kids before they become adults
because once they're an adult i mean legally they can make their choices and so our job you know
obviously we never stop being parents but we really need to prioritize doing the job right
when they are minors um so honey badger will take you and then my phone's gonna die so
we should probably end the space after that yeah keep it keep it to 30 seconds keep it 30 seconds
please oh i'll be very quick okay thank you so much robbie it's so good to see you so um alvie
asked this and then he dropped off and he kind of challenged your notion about protect
about protecting children while also trusting parents now um i would go back to erickson's
eric erickson's um growth and development and which no popular psychologist you know nothing
in pop psychology disagrees with the stages of growth and development so if you look at where
a child is at um you know from the ages of um like you have you know infancy trust versus mistrust
you have autonomy versus shout and doubt and shame during the preschool years and then moving
during toddlerhood and then preschool years is initiative versus guilt and the earlier years uh
the the early years go on and then stage five is adolescence versus
adolescence which is identity versus role confusion now to put that in a nutshell if you
basically don't graduate from any of from every um each each stage of development there's going
to be a crisis in the next so could we please maybe talk about the notion of prior to um
adolescence the idea that puberty blockers are okay for children who are still working through
all of these stages of development who haven't even had the opportunity to decide or to know
themselves as a person versus versus isolating their sexuality yeah that's a great great point
to jump into so puberty blockers as a whole first thing people need to understand is that these
wreak havoc and not just for a short period of time it's really pausing development on such
a wide scale they shouldn't be called puberty blockers um they should be called something far
worse um to be really honest about what they're doing but here's something people need to know
you know for the people on this other side who purport to love science and you know they've spent
the past few years parroting the cdc and the fda and all these things well puberty blockers
are not approved as puberty blockers so you know we explain this in the doc in terms of what is
actually happening these are being prescribed off label with no proof that they're safe in a long
term study okay they're not trying to get them approved because they know what's going to happen
if they try to and that's that they're not going to get approved so instead here's kind of what's
going on the politics makes it popular the algorithms make it popular right and the politics
give cover to the company that's doing this so abb makes one of these drugs abb in turn refuses
to do safety studies to try to get it approved for the purpose of puberty blocking but they make
a big donation to the trevor project a group that then puts out what it purports to be a survey
that says that it does these amazing things for youth right who are gender confused
what they don't tell you is that survey is one filled with essentially the bias of you know
they call convenience sampling so they're choosing a convenient audience to them
that will get you the desired result you want and they're giving them things like gift cards
in order to get the responses so when you see the mainstream media then wash that by saying
new study shows that you know puberty blockers do these amazing things for kids and are perfectly
safe that's basically abb be laundering it through this quote unquote non-profit that's really a
proxy for leftists and the big pharmaceutical companies so that it can try to convince society
that this is somehow okay to do but then when you look at the actual science of what is happening
to these children it's horrific and so we highlight for a decent bit of time the horrific side effects
and you know talk to real life victims who were put on these quote unquote blockers and the
reality stark i mean i think any parent who watches it understands like this is evil what's being done
is evil and it is very carefully planned and there's you know the economics behind it is another
thing people need to understand so so let's take Planned Parenthood for example their business
model was abortion before but for Planned Parenthood when they see you know Roe is gone
and it's going to be a state-by-state issue some states are going to allow it some won't
you know they look at their business model and long term now you understand why they're pushing
the transgender issue so hard because with an abortion they're getting a customer once maybe
twice maybe three times okay with the transgender issue if they transition a child at a young age
and get them on blockers and then get them committed to a transition they have a lifetime
patient who is going to need mental health care and you know physical health care for the entirety
of their life even if they detransition because when we talk to the detransitioners they're
dealing with horrific side effects for decades and decades afterward so that's the reality of
what's going on this is this is turned into not just politics but it's politics that they're
making money off of on the backs of abuse so a follow-up question how how do you how do you think
that the medical community and the psych you know the the psychiatric community how do you think
what is what would you say turned each other so in other words there's a difference between
human development and psychological development and neither disagree with each other in terms of
the atrocities that happen to children um even even so much as not allowing them all of the
information before they make a decision um why how did they get to cooperate with each other like
what do you think brought them together because medicine would tell us that every bad thing will
happen if you give um contradictory hormones to a child and and and everything in the um
everything in the dcs would tell you that no you have to go through each of these stages of
development fully before you reach the next what do you think happened
well it's sort of similar to what happened in a lot of other avenues and you know it's sort of
its own micro version of the long march through the institutions like all of these things like
even when you talk about like the dsm is controlled by a group of people fallible human beings and if
it's able to be infiltrated by a group of people who have an ideology that comes first to them
all of the things that used to be important about it no longer matter because you know if the
previous concern was let's be as accurate and you know medically sound as possible well that's
no longer the first concern the first concern is how do we please the ideology i mean for goodness
six this is happening to the dictionary now where they're changing definitions of words
on a regular basis to suit the desires of the narrative on the left so when you see changing
language all around and you see all these companies and organizations doing things just
are nonsensical and are out of alignment with observed reality it's very clear that this is
a group of people captured by an ideology who have taken this position now where the the party
is the process that the narrative is the goal and they will do anything anything that they need to
do along the way to launder whatever needs to be laundered in furtherance of the narrative the party
and ideology so that's where we're at functionally with each one of these areas that you mentioned
is like that's where it's out of alignment it's out of alignment with fallible human beings who
got into these positions and got their friends into these positions because that's that's how
it works and they share an ideology and that ideology comes first i mean it is a religion
now i wrote a piece for the federalist explaining how this has turned into a religion and it lays
out you know how there's penance you know there's there's the expectation of of reverence and you
know these these attendants at at vigils and you know all these things you know i lined it up
basically you know down the list comparing it to the way you would functionally create a religion
and it borders obviously it goes into cult territory but this is it's it's it's important
to understand like it's not just a cult from the sense of wanting to call it a cult it is religious
and it's very important to understand the way that we feel about god is the way many of them feel
about ideology and so that's that's the best answer i can give you um i hope that i answered
everybody's questions i'm sorry i couldn't answer everybody's i'm at like six percent battery right
now so adrian you were the boss you're amazing for doing this i appreciate you hosting the space
and uh introducing some new people to the documentary who haven't seen it yet because
the more we can get it out there the better so people learn about this war on children and spread
the word and for people who haven't seen it yet you can go to the war on children.com
or subscribe to me on x go to the subs page of my profile and you can watch the film there
um and stay subbed so we can keep making movies like this and then keep doing spaces with adrian
about those movies hey thank you everyone thanks for taking uh thanks for taking the time out for
your day to come here and you know be interviewed which is really nice if you'd like to we could do
this more often if you have the next one launching do let us know and then we can do a space about
that so people know where to go where to see it give it some coverage we did the same thing for
the first book that was launched live on spaces which is launched by katherine brodsky called no
apologies um so yeah if you want to launch something here we could do it personally i
would also recommend that you put the movie itself um available as a subscriber's only post which is
a feature that it's available to you given that you have subs such that people who are here on x
can essentially always buy access to the movie because of the fact that they're subscribed to you
so i would highly i'd highly advise it's there it's there it's there for all subs you're going to be
there even after it's taken down it's it'll be and i retweet it too so it's like the top thing
on the subs page i wish you could pin your own subs page with something but they don't they don't
do that yet we've got to get you on on yeah sure um one thing i wanted to ask you is the final
thought um we are like basically moving towards this you know understanding of parents empowerment
parents again um if i'm correct in this observation i think there has been a there was a there there
a few culture shifts one of those cultureships was in the beginning where i think children were
decidedly more free which then created a follow-up generation which then created the generation that
is today's parents that then created us so i think there was kind of an issue at some point where
these children which were very free initially essentially saw the error of their own ways and
said we're going to be more restrictive creating the people who then were saying hey we need to
stop this restriction stuff we need to we need to just completely get rid of all this this was
terrible for all of our lives it made them function somewhat but it is terrible so i think maybe
partially the revolt was a bit of an overdoing in terms of oversight from the parents that may have
led to the that may have led to cultural structures dissolving what do you think
i think you're right there is an overreaction i mean it's kind of like um you know when you have
a really really far left leader a lot of times you've got to just slam right back in the other
direction um it's sort of the same thing with with these things like parenting philosophies
you know we've gone from periods of time where it's overly restrictive to overly free and the
reality is you know i think the healthy place is somewhere toward the middle of that you know where
you're eagle-eyed about the things that are super dangerous for your kids but you're not
afraid to let them skin their knee on a bike you know like you've got to let them learn from some
real world experiences and you've got to teach them about real world things that they're going
to come across but you need to be the one who teaches it to them not some you know woke teacher
who just got out of grad school and thinks that you know carl marx is the answer to our problems
like you need to be the person to have those conversations with your kids and not be afraid
of them and that goes with every subject from you know sex to gender and all this stuff like you
need to be the one who talks to your kid about reality in the world they're going to face at
an appropriate age and so there's there's like this middle ground where you're keeping your kids safe
but you're giving them the freedom they need to be curious and to you know skin their knee
and figure out what in the world they enjoy and what they're curious about and stuff like that
but with your watchful eye just making sure that they're not facing real harms very true well i mean
yeah yeah definitely 100 percent well with that i'd like to thank you um also with what you just
told me i'm pretty sure your son will have an amazing life especially with your fight against
the current narrative that seeks to destroy that life um by any intent whatsoever um yeah thanks
for coming here i will hope to see you again at some point i'll check you out in the timeline
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exactly where to find me you can ask questions whatever else but yeah thank you for thank you
all for coming and thank you robbie for the interview it's absolutely amazing thank you
you're the bomb you just got to stop lying to people about your identity and tell people you're
you on oh wow really i have to make it hard for you i gotta make it hard yeah the cognitive
dissonance next level i promise to continue being difficult thank you guys i appreciate
it you're you're the best adrian thank you you too