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THE X SPACES CREW | WTF IS HAPPENING ON X?
Recorded: Oct. 2, 2025 Duration: 0:54:39Space Recording
Short Summary
In a lively discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the current trends in the market, highlighting Bitcoin's recent price movements, the impact of monetary policy on crypto valuations, and the growing interest in decentralized platforms like Aster. The conversation emphasized the importance of learning from past trading experiences and adapting strategies for future growth.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you.
I hear you.
Yep, I hear you loud and clear. Good morning, good morning, or good afternoon, depending where you are.
Man, I can't see you as a speaker, Tropic, but I know your voice from a mile away.
mile away.
Yeah, I'm up here helping out the crew to open the space to kick off this discussion.
So as usual, you know, hanging out, space is crew, and it's good to know that I have
a recognizable voice.
So happy to have you here.
How's it going, Action?
Man, always a good day, as long as I'm above ground, you know?
Yep, old timer told me that once. Gav, how you doing as long as I'm above ground, you know? Yep, old-timers told me that once.
Gav, how you doing?
Yeah, I'm good.
I'm actually about to have to go through airport security in a second.
But I figured we'd just chat for a little bit here.
This is a common occurrence, Gav.
This is my 41st flight this year.
I do not envy you.
Common occurrence, I would agree.
Action, how about this crypto mania?
Bitcoin pumping.
You own a lot of Bitcoin, right?
Oh, you're nowhere still?
Are you selling Kulow coin?
Not enough, bro.
Not enough.
That's always the answer.
How much Bitcoin do you own?
Not enough.
Coin bags.
No, but it's been fun. It's been exciting to see October really just kick it off.
And it's kind of crazy, man. Like, I don't get why people are so hesitant.
Like, I've been talking about October since last year.
And like, the one thing that I kept talking about was like the catalyst for this whole
thing um is money printing and that's what we've had in every other bull cycle for bitcoin and it
hasn't happened yet so as soon as we get those rate cuts i mean if you don't if you think about
it rate cut is literally just printing money um just another form of doing so um that that's what
we're waiting for i mean that's what's gonna actually get things off the ground and running definitely uh what you said uh that's definitely coming uh for sure
uh we just know that's coming but uh yeah it's really i'd say one of the more exciting things
is seeing all of the various uh uptober posts like just blowing up the timeline people are
getting really creative it's like they saved their best stuff for this month.
It seems like,
but definitely trying to, uh, scroll through the timeline here.
It's a, it's, it's pretty wild.
But, uh, what are you seeing otherwise?
You know, um, of course we're seeing all the October, uh, swings,
like every time it moves a dollar like you see despair and grief and then
it goes up one dollar not
even a dollar it goes up 50 cents it seems
like everyone's having a super
bowl wins it's like it's actually
hilarious to see the swing of emotions
on the timeline
yeah entertaining
is definitely a way to describe that
yeah it's been pretty
nuts I would say lately
what where do you see it going from here tropic you're in the crypto trenches what's what's
happening yeah it's actually really interesting i've been hanging out with a lot of traders i
most of them uh which by the way um i'm not the most active trader reading charts,
but the thing, most of them by the end of November, they're going straight cash.
They're pulling out, you know, risk off,
just trying to stable up for the most part and wait for this bear market.
It's like really interesting to see like the different views and like the
arguments going back and forth is the four year cycle dead and whatnot.
And everyone going with historical data and arguing.
Lady Trader has some great, great points.
And just hearing those back and forth has been really fun.
So it's been enjoyable.
How about you, Action?
What are you thinking about that as far as the arguments of four-year cycles and where we're going from here?
Is the bear market just never coming back because of all the institutions and all this stuff?
It's pretty wild.
Dude, we don't have a four-year cycle.
We have a liquidity cycle is what it is, and I don't think people pay enough attention to it.
That's why the money printing is such a key part of this whole thing.
I'm not afraid, I guess you can say.
Even when I do pull out, which obviously I'm terrible at.
I got three kids.
But it's not everything right
it's not all of it it's going to be a portion um and i do let stuff ride man i i don't mind it
going down if i know those are long-term holds like anything that's in my ledger for example
it doesn't still get touched i don't i don't need it you know i don't need the you know the
bitcoin that i have there off of there anytime soon um it just keeps earning a you know a little stable yield and i let it ride it doesn't matter if it goes back down to 50 that
that bitcoin is staying there as is especially because it's my my cherished virgin bitcoin that
i've been mining so um yeah that it's it's price possession and there is no selling um to me it's
just unnecessary like again like you got to think about the long-term aspect of things.
Yes, can you make money going in and out?
Sure.
But I'm unable to manage that kind of portfolio
if I'm literally doing it to everything that I hold.
So yeah, happy day.
It goes down, don't care.
It goes up, great.
But I'm still earning a consistent yield month after month.
So I'm not I'm not stressed about it. And it's safe. That's the biggest thing, man, because last cycle I made six figures from having my stables on different exchanges.
And I pulled out before the whole FTX fiasco. So I didn't lose money there, but I was still able to make a decent amount. I lost a little bit of money on, which one was it? The one that FTX actually bought out. Anyway, I got most of that back already, which they reimbursed people for but ultimately like if you're confident that this thing is that literally the
future i wouldn't stress too too much if you're looking to make money yeah go in and out um if
that's your strategy but i like i told gav a couple weeks ago i'm focused on so many other things right
now like um i'm trying to make finish off the year by making at least you know half a mil like that's
my goal right now so that that's outside of crypto and trading. That's like work, work that I'm dealing with
and other things that I'm doing in the background.
Crypto related, yet not necessarily trading wise.
But as long as you got a conviction,
let it ride long term, at least a portion of it.
Otherwise you might regret not having that in there.
That's the whole thing.
Like I can't live with regrets.
So I will do half and half.
I will pull half of it out.
I'll convert it to stables and that sort of thing but i'm never gonna pull everything out
i hear that speaking of living with regrets the other day i think it's tuesday if i'm not mistaken
we're on uh the new wolf crypto uh page and we're having a discussion about trading one of the guys
is saying one of his biggest regrets was he spent 11, I think it was, yeah, 1100 Bitcoin on the house that he ended up turning around and
selling for 12. So yeah, from 1100 Bitcoin to 12 Bitcoin. And his whole thing is kicking himself
saying, man, I really was in a great position and I decided to be a genius and just do all sorts of
crazy stuff. The house all sorts of crazy stuff
The house wasn't the crazy stuff but like trying to trade all the stuff and he ends up in a much worse position than he is
But he's like yep
But you know what you have to pay the fool's tax and learn sometimes and just go forward
And now I'm on spaces just telling people not to make the mistakes. I made that's what he said
I was like, that's really good advice. You have to. I mean, I've lost way more Bitcoin than that.
But like what I say about not living with regrets is essentially like be confident in the decisions that you're making.
So even if you are wrong, you're confidently wrong and going, yeah, it happens.
It's, you know, the price you pay, like you're saying, like it's not a matter of, you know, kind of going, well, I should have done.
There's a million things that you could or should have done.
Are you confident? Are you OK with the decisions that you actually made
dp this is funny i see your hand raised but you're still listening for me fantastic thanks spaces
yeah what's up dp how's it going no worries um gm yeah spaces has been
cooking for the past couple of days i I could never see who's speaking.
But yeah, I think the regrets,
I think the regrets are usually tied to decisions that don't ultimately still benefit your life, right?
Being able to hold Bitcoin multiple cycles,
it's one of those things where like very few had financial education
I don't want to expose my age but we're not necessarily like taught to keep six months of
you know keep six months of our of whatever our pay is as like a cushion for a rainy day or
whatever it is right and I think with the paradigm shift with bitcoin over time the
longer that you are interacting the longer that you're either holding or using it you have this
shift where um uh you tend to uh save right um more just naturally most people can't save because
in the fiat system it's always been like know, we even when inflation isn't a major problem, we still always have like that latent feeling money burning in your, you know, in your pocket, right?
The longer you hold on to it, the less the value actually is in the real world.
The less things you can buy, the less, you know, less you can do for your family. So in 2020, right around when COVID, right, because
not to go too far back, but like the previous, like in, I owned real estate in the States back
in 2007, right? Purchased two properties in Connecticut, late 2005. I call that my young
and dumb days because I was about 23, 24. So I didn't really understand how markets work.
And we all know what happened within two years after that, right?
My experience, I was able to, we basically did like dollar sales.
My partner filed for bankruptcy.
I'm like, I'm not doing that, but whatever.
Long story short, I learned that lesson during that recession.
And also later on, I've picked up that, you know, ready money is a really good thing. So like when the markets have a downturn globally. So we saw where
during COVID, I was in Jamaica at the time. And, you know, once the airports went closed,
anyone who had like, maybe like, say a travel or tour service, if they had like nine vehicles,
there's a strong chance they were selling three of them if they own three
boats two of them were up for sale if they had four or five guest house
properties chances are two or three were up for sale and by holding Bitcoin at
that time and having access to you know capital outside of just like the the real world systems um i personally was able to uh get
my first property um right around covid it was instance where the previous owner uh wanted to
she was canadian she wanted to catch a repatriation flight before everything got shut down so it was
just a really huge opportunity and i remember tweeting tweeting on, tweeting, like, you know, I've just.
It's posting now.
It's posting now.
No, I'm just kidding.
Yeah.
You're back at that time.
I'm just kidding.
You know, like 1.2 Bitcoin.
I think the price was like, it wasn't, it was like 9.6 at the time.
That was the year we ran up to like 50,000.
Right.
But thankfully I was involved with a couple of other things.
I don't want to get too much into that.
So I never left the market, so to speak.
But interestingly enough, I don't regret it at all.
Because by having Bitcoin and having funds outside of the traditional system, when that
downturn came, I was able to capitalize on it and almost benefit from the lessons that
I learned during the recession
when I basically felt like the world was over. I lost everything. Everyone knows growing up in
the States, your credit goes from like $690, $700 to $5 something. It's like the world's over,
but whatever. I'm just trying to say like some of these regrets are very much less impactful.
They show up less when you do things with Bitcoin
that's going to benefit you long term.
I believe in we should be holding some forever.
Convert, like all profits are counted in Bitcoin.
But at the same time, spending it when it's up,
hoarding it when it's down, not necessarily trading tops and bottoms, just more of a lifestyle thing.
So this entire year while we've been running to the moon, so to speak, I've been traveling.
I'm making the best of it.
I'm speaking from a personal perspective now.
I know that.
Yeah, there's a two years.
It's more of a DCA and
hold on. Sorry, choppy. Go ahead. Go ahead. Sorry. Yeah. No, I was going to say there's a big
difference between just, you know, trading and just doing stuff endlessly. And like you said,
investing and promoting a better lifestyle. But before you move on from the topic of like lessons
and so forth, because action was kind of going there, you know, I just wanted to throw it to
him to, you know, see if he connected with that uh that you know talking about your lessons at 23 and so forth um learning from past mistakes
and going forward because a lot of times on the timeline all we see is like the glamorous stuff
right but being human and showing lessons i think is a good way to just interact not just with your
audience but just with anyone too and i i think it's great content personally what do you think
about that as far as seeing that on the timeline, people just being real about what they're learning in the market?
It doesn't get the likes that it deserves, man.
That's the truth of the matter.
You're dead on.
Unfortunately, X has become more and more like Instagram where it's all about the shiny and the flashy things out there.
And people don't realize where real wealth is um and it's kind
of sad to be honest with you like um can i go out there and buy a lambo right now sure am i gonna do
that i'm good i'm i'm all right but i know for a fact if i did so uh my timeline will blow up
right like that's the that's a sad state of affairs that i think um this market is in um just the dgens have a hundred
percent kind of taken over the the timeline when it comes to hype right like because that's what
sells the hype does sell there's no there's no question about that um but um yeah i'm considering
how much to flash because that's the that's the the fun part of it um especially because i've been
head down grinding, man.
Like over the last month and a half, two months almost, I've just been working on some really crazy stuff.
New company, new partners, like multi-million dollar deals.
So I'm probably going to be able to have some fun show and tell by December, I'm hoping, if they launch this thing, right?
But it's one of those things, like it's not a matter of waiting, waiting'm hoping, if they launch this thing, right? But it's one of those things,
like, it's not a matter of waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting. It's a matter of living in
the moment. Like you're talking about, DP, it's a matter of ensuring that you're doing the best
with what you got right now. The same way that, you know, DP, you might've made the mistakes when
you're 23, but here we are 20 years later. Wait, I just disclosed your age. My bad, dude. We,
you got to make sure you're OK living with those things. Right.
And to me, the realization is that I can make such a greater impact if I focus on actually I don't want to say converting,
but informing and educating the different tiers of people in this world when it comes to crypto and blockchain
technology. So like I've been working with governments recently, like a lot with a lot of
diplomats. Like I'm doing the crazy flights where like I'll leave on a Tuesday, go to Brussels,
spend a day in Brussels on a Wednesday and come back on Thursday just to have conversations with
diplomats from around the world in regards to policy,
in regards to what's going on in this space, because that's really what's going to move the needle.
People keep talking about this, all these hype cycles like, oh, yeah, pump this, pump that basketball.
Guys, that is so temporary. That is so limiting. And basketball is so boring.
Like there's, yeah. Sorry, Gav. I apologize. But basketball is not what it used to be.
It's kind of a joke right now.
Have you ever heard of traveling? 100% agree with you.
It's netball for males.
Male netball.
Yeah, I heard there was a thing called traveling.
I'm still trying to figure out what it is.
I've never heard anybody call it over the last couple of years.
But I'm just having fun.
Make sure you're actually having a good time with the things that you're doing but try to make an impact like i'm not looking at okay i need to
focus on what's going on in my region for you know for america no like i'm talking about dealing with
other you know countries uh african union i'm talking to people um in saudi i'm talking to
people everywhere in the world to ensure that we are actually moving forward the right way i think
that matters way more than what the temporary price of Bitcoin is. If we pumped, you know, like you're saying,
dropping 50 cents, like that doesn't get us really anywhere. But when you get, you know,
people that are actually writing legislature, people that are actually, you know, investing,
not in, not, not millions, but literally billions into projects that could integrate blockchain
technology and, you know, bring this thing to real, you know, real use case. That's when the needle actually moves. So unsung heroes,
I got to say, there's a lot of them out there that you will never hear about. And they're very
happy that you don't know who they are and how wealthy they are, because they don't care about
flashing and they care about enjoying their lifestyle. They care about making like a real
difference and, you know, living their lives while they're at it. And that's my biggest recommendation.
Whatever it is that you're into, make sure that you're actually living your life while you're at
it just because time goes by way too quick. I get the whole property thing as well, DP. I'm right
there with you. It took me a few months renovating the place that I'm in right now. I bought it right
when COVID hit. Everybody was super scared.
I'm like, you know what?
That's a hoarder's house, and it's a bunch of land.
I'm going to go ahead and take it.
And it's worth over 2x what I bought it for.
So happy day.
And yeah, you got to take some risks sometimes, but you got to make sure that you're actually living and enjoying those risks.
risks otherwise it's not worth it you know this ties directly into a conversation that uh dp and
Otherwise, it's not worth it.
i were actually in on a space earlier this morning um and it went all over the place but you know as
far as like global perspective of how people look at bitcoin in the us versus other countries uh
policies coming in and then even uh the the quality of life, all these things kind of
glue back into it. And of course, this is in the Bitcoin space, but it's all over the timeline.
That's what's going on right now. And it's just part of the conversation. I mean, I don't think
anyone has scrolled the timeline without seeing a Bitcoin post this morning. And it's just very
relevant to everything. And we even got distracted and went down the rabbit hole of, you know, the whole CIA
conspiracies and all this stuff. It was, it was a really crazy space. It was, it was a great space
though. But, but, uh, one thing that I will say as far as, you know, both of you that, you know,
lifestyle, keeping it real, all that stuff, I think that will never go out of style, uh, when
it comes to connecting with people. But, you know, as far as what's on the timeline right now,
I know, DP, you spent a lot of time looking at, like, Aster.
It seems like Aster has taken over my whole timeline.
It's like that whole community, all the creative stuff that they're putting out,
it's, like, absolutely just mind-blowing.
They're steamrolling everything.
What are your thoughts on that?
It's like a black hole for
mindshare bro it's just soaking up everything um i mean it's not just the hype that's the thing too
so i think aster i don't want to show aster on the space but i think aster actually um
it it's it's providing utility that that's bringing everyone together and i just want to
kind of leave it on on on that so that's why you see I mean they're not paying any KOLs or anything like that
but it's commanding the space and interestingly enough it's behind a
decentralized product so I'm all for that um and but yeah that's what I could
say about aster regarding like on X right so the algorithm is definitely
gonna throw weight to anything that's hot right now. And as Action was saying, I think it's great that we're moving away from all the meme coins and the shit coins basically holding, you know, holding that mind sharing and all the bull posting of, you know, pictures that half of them are AI, another good percentage of them are Google
images, et cetera, et cetera, but it's bull posting. And we could usually tell right around
when things are really going to turn just by judging the sentiment on X, right? You know,
all of a sudden, a couple months ago, there's everyone's GMing again.
And soon we'll see all the Lambos and et cetera.
And then at some point, you know, we could tell the opposite when everyone's crying and Bitcoin is dead and that's taken over timeline.
We know we're near the bottom of general cycles.
I think just kind of, you know, observe this space from the outside.
You know, if it's fun and entertaining, partake, yeah.
But if you just, like, observe it from the outside, it's a good gauge of just overall sentiment to me in a better way than, like, the fear and greed index.
It's really interesting there. Yeah, for sure. Gov, I don't know if you
made it through security safely, but if you have anything to add onto that, what you're seeing
on the timeline, anything of that nature, I know you're traveling right now, but feel free to jump
in anytime. A couple of things that I wanted to say too as far as content that's on the timeline
this whole uh i guess you'd say uh sora update with all of the the videos and everything that's
another thing i'm seeing just completely dominating my timeline people that i never even saw as
creatives you know they have like three followers and all sorts of stuff and never really put out
content now they're putting out sora content and that's kind of interesting have you guys seen that actually have you seen these new
Sora videos yeah they look pretty good but it's unfortunate that um they're just coming out now
like it's going to dilute the creator space and I think that's not a bad thing because it's going
to allow the right the good people to actually shine through. I may or may not be working with a company to deal with some of those things
as far as AI versus real verification and all of that.
I think that's the next level.
I think we're going to see a lot of people trying to sort out what's AI and what's not.
But Sora is just fun to do.
It's actually entertaining, right?
And I think that's what a lot of people come out to this day for and is to be entertained um oh i see oh suburban crypto is out in the audience
what's up brother um i need to i need to talk to you um wow so many people just hopping on
perco what's up um but yeah it's it's fun it's fun it's fun seeing people that want to be creative
but don't know how to get there finally have an outlet to actually create stuff.
Like that's the beautiful thing about Sora is that it's giving, you know, wannabe creators the means of taking that leap of faith.
Because it was just like very hard for people to do so beforehand.
So when you have the ability of doing something like this, of, you know, making it easy for people to go ahead and actually take that leap, it does help.
And who knows what's going to
come out of it like who might be your next awesome creator that didn't know how to do it and now has
the opportunity of actually stepping out of their shell and making something cool
sure beats netflix
great point there with uh netflix that tweet uh that blew up the timeline too as well and
it's funny because the other thing i'm seeing since you know everyone's posting netflix's uh
price and how it impacted and uh yeah elon definitely moves markets i wish you know my
words had that much gravity but then with that power also comes so much responsibility.
Now I'm not going to say the quote exactly because Uncle Ben never really said it.
But anyways, no.
Yeah, no, DP, what do you what do you think of that?
Like Sora and the whole creativity aspect of things and what's seen on the timeline, people just throwing up all this AI generated content.
How do you feel about it?
And I think it's like a double-edged sword. I love it. I love, you know, seeing new creators.
You know, once I saw even like just Grok, right, generate this video, you know, I just had fun with
it. I think it's, wow, it lowers the bar, so to speak.
I don't know if in a long term, that's a great thing, right?
Yes, we will definitely see some, you know, it'll spark some new creators for the AI to really empower them to do great things that they possibly can do.
But at the same time, I see it like saturating, you know, further saturating a lot
because we can usually tell when it's AI and this might be a weird connection.
But like with ad blindness, you know, like Web2 ad blindness, when you visit a website
and if you're a marketer, you know, the hot zones.
So chances are you over time just automatically ignore them, right, while the rest of the world is, you know, somehow gravitating to these, like, just statistically, right? bit of that play where similar to even on youtube right if i start a video now because especially
at the science videos that that's been noted um that that the ai generated science videos has
has turned that whole section into mush um but generally like if i start a video and i hear ai
it's like within seconds sometimes it's like a knee-jerk reaction it i'm skipping you know what i mean i think even
with art that might actually um start to take hold where uh people might just create some kind
of ai blindness where um you know authentic or content where you know the prompts are actually
in depth where you can tell someone um put their time and work into it to work with the AI. I don't think we'll ever become blind to that.
But the quick generated videos, I think not only will we become blind to it,
but at some point I think the algorithms, once it's not benefiting viewership,
they might actually start going against it, like posting links on X, right?
You know what I mean?
Yeah, they're making that ding already
over on YouTube.
So I don't know if you saw this,
like nothing annoys people more
than when you go to get a review
and you hear this auto-generated,
it's just reading off Amazon reviews
and it's not giving a human interaction.
Like, yeah, when I used it,
this is exactly what happened,
but it's just giving a human interaction like, yeah, when I used it, this is exactly what happened, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But it's just the AI voice, generic, in the middle content
that's not helpful to anyone, they're demonetizing that over on YouTube. So I think that's going to
eventually make its way over to every platform in that sense. So as far as being able to
block out the noise, I think that's something that a lot of people are doing.
And, you know, I think of even when I walk through the New York City subway, if you did that about 15 years ago, you'd see a million different signs.
And I remember when I was in school, I was like, this is just just a mess.
And then recently, when I after I left New York and went back to travel, I saw that now the entire subway station is one movie, is one cell phone company one whatever and it's just completely changing the way even marketing goes so I think that's something that
has to happen with our timelines and how AI is gonna you know flood the content and so forth
and it's gonna again like action said not too long ago the cream rise to the top the the best
things are going to stand out and I think I think creative people are going to find a way
to just leverage AI and all this stuff to make their content even better. And then that's going
to go to the top. So with that, do you use AI? I want to ask you that action. What are your
stance on that? I know you said you're working with that company, but from your personal content,
when you're putting things out, in what ways do you think, you know,
enhances the content, your reach and so forth, as opposed to getting dinged on the timeline?
It's speed, man. I think it boils down to speed. So like what I'm doing a lot of right now is
like interviews, right? I'll interview somebody for an hour, an hour and a half, having the ability
of just throwing the entire transcript on AI and say, hey, help me identify what are the best sections that are providing good quality content.
And not even on the editing side of it necessarily.
Just understanding what areas I can focus on, what areas I can actually pull stuff out of.
Because what it boils down to is like I don't have two hours to sit there and listen to myself.
sit there and listen to myself, that'd be torture.
That'd be torture.
So having that, you know, the ability of going through a script,
transcript, sorry, and be able to highlight some of those things
definitely makes it work a lot easier.
And I am slightly spoiled at the moment where I'm not editing
or doing the work as much as I used to.
I have other people doing that, but it still speeds up the process tremendously.
It's a big help.
But as far as using AI, not necessarily for video, but every other piece of my life, man.
I think I'm leveraging AI.
If it's a perfect example, it's like, where was I?
Where was there?
Oh, it was at O'Hare.
And I'm like, I don't remember last time I was at O'Hare.
I was trying to get through the airport.
And I'm like, all right, Grok, guess what?
Let's have a conversation.
And I just walked down the airport on Grok
and like, I need to get to my next flight
as fast as possible.
Where do I go?
Where do I turn?
I see this.
And having it walk you through where you're at is awesome.
So like there's so many ways that I am leveraging AI,
but not necessarily on the video creation aspect of things.
Not that editors aren't doing that because let me tell you, finding B-Row is a thing in the past.
There's no more searching for B-Row.
There is you write a prompt for what you want the B-Row to be and you get that video.
So it is leveraged inside a video, but not necessarily by me as much as it used to be.
Yeah, nice. Now, definitely, it really is, you know, you grow with it, and you can
pass it off to your team. I'm sure your team and everybody else that's working with it absolutely
loves it. But then you, if you're the one who's approving stuff, then you have to go through and
sift out, like, really? Like, this is not even human at all. So it's like, go back to the drawing
board in that regard. So I uh certain times um i i've
just seen like two lines in you can tell if it says uh in the word of text if it says delve
embark on those types of words uh dp i know you do a lot of like reviewing of contents and such
um it's like automatic red flag you can almost hear chat gpt or whatever it is just screaming
through and same thing happens in posts too the way it's structured you can almost hear chat GPT or whatever it is just screaming through. And the same thing happens in posts too.
The way it's structured, you can actually tell right away.
Yeah, I think that's something that, like you were saying,
the algorithms are going to start catching on sooner rather than later
if there's no positive return on it, which is the cool part of it, right?
Like, great, something doesn't work.
Let's make sure we throw it to the back of the list.
Why should we put that in front of people
if they're not actually responding well to it?
So I do love how the algorithm can actually grow with times
and it's no longer something that's just so static
that you can't grow with it, right?
Because what happens, like we see different trends,
we see things come and go.
And I think that's the best part of social media platforms
is that it allows you to follow what's going on in the world as well as like trends.
Right. Let's talk about AI specifically.
You know that AI video is trending because you see it everywhere.
You know that some some things are popular because you are seeing it more and more.
But yeah, the same way that things are showing up more, you're going to end up seeing things less when they aren't performing as well as they should be.
And that's the cool thing about technology, man.
Like we have a problem with that in the real world.
It's like, oh, no, we should keep him around.
He's such a nice guy.
But his work sucks.
Well, but, you know, he's been with the company for X number of years.
It's like, so what?
If he's not getting any better, he should have been gone already.
Like computers don't care. Technology doesn't care. You're not performing. You get tossed back. It's like, so what? If he's not getting any better, he should have been gone already.
Computers don't care. Technology doesn't care. You're not performing. You get tossed back.
That's the way it should be for things to be effective and efficient.
And we don't seem to be able to do that in real life as often as we should.
So technology is doing that for us in real time, which is a cool part of it it's pretty funny because when you said that um those of us
that are sports fans knows like when you hear something like um you know a certain coach who
has like never had a winning record but like he's a really nice guy you know he talks well to the
press and so forth it's like you know that whole thing like that's what i get from it it's like it
has nothing to do with their performance is Is that what you're trying to say?
It's like, what are we grading this on right now?
But yeah, as far as the content and everything goes,
it's one thing I will say,
if you want to guarantee,
well, at least at this point,
if you want to guarantee that you are interacting
with real people and so forth,
like space is a great way to do it
because personalities asking questions at this point,
I would say, you know,
I haven't found anybody
able to replicate me or anyone else that's on the stage right here so great time to say if you're
interested in spaces like wolf spaces you know we wolf financial has a whole bunch of investing
spaces vp vc spaces literally every topic then you have trading spaces doing all sorts of
uh all day jordan's in there. So check that out.
Then Cade's over on WolfBitcoin. Some amazing things are over there. These are all real people.
And WolfCrypto just spun back up all of these different things. So just a little plug right there.
So anyone wants to check out some real people and have conversations, you know, definitely as far as that goes, though.
We're now traffic. And I wish I could tell you more, but I signed an NDA yesterday, so I can't.
Pretty profitable. So I'm OK not talking about it. But just be aware that that is changing rather quickly as far as who is real and who's not.
Not even through a voice and what you can trust.
You know, OK, so one thing that I will say that's really interesting and and I can't wait for that to come out, and I'll dive in it definitely myself.
One aspect, too, that I say AI at this point is not very good at replicating is cultural references, right? a certain area of New York or Chicago or Detroit or whatever it is. And a musician,
whether it's in rap or whatever genre that you like makes a specific
reference.
Like you click and you know,
like,
okay,
this person's from that area.
And that gets,
you know,
those I guess you would say putting that lingo together,
those vernacular and slang and all that stuff.
And you just resonate with it.
I haven't seen AI,
even some of these AI lyrics,
I haven't seen been able to do
this and by the way uh when they do like say rap songs or rock songs and like say 60s uh vocals and
opera i think it's really cool but at the same time too that's more so repurposing that's really
good but we'll see where that goes i mean we get to the point where it starts saying things that
makes me feel like man man, you definitely were
in New York in the 90s and you
can relate to this. I'd be like, oh crap, we're really
in trouble. So hopefully we don't get there
anytime soon.
There's no guarantee
that Grok hasn't been
recording you on every one of these
spaces that you're doing.
And in the future, it could easily spin up
a Tropic agent. Fake one of these spaces, you're doing and in the future it could easily spin up a tropic agent fake one of these spaces do all the responses and and have your you
know the little kinks that you do it's it's just a matter of time actions gonna
be asking his Tesla bot to write his tweets for him so we see that that's it
it's it's it's interesting and I just think you think the more work people put into it, that's where it really shows
the difference. So just spinning things up in a few minutes on AI, that's always going to,
I think, going to ding any algorithm, as you said, Tropic. But if people put the work in,
you know, that's where it becomes a, uh, uh,
and it's a tool, right?
So if you use it as a tool, um, you know,
and instead of having it replace your actually work,
I think that's, that's the difference.
And just throwing that joke out there, you know me,
I'm actually, I do look to see a future where I could have my tweets done by a Tesla bot
and it seems like it's exactly
you know just me and I'm off on some beach somewhere
Optimus is just uh supposedly uh here to make our lives better but then we find out that we're
gonna use it for the most degenerate things ever it It's shilling meme coins on X. That's what Optimus is going to be reduced to.
That's the future we look forward to now.
Wait, you heard about the anti-skin that Optimus is going to come with?
The what?
The anti-skin from Grok.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, anti-skin.
When you said, I thought you said anti-skin, like anti, you know, so.
Sorry, my voice is shot, dude.
Yeah, you're talking to Barry White, not action.
All good.
Now, definitely appreciate you hanging out with us, especially technical difficulties and all.
Not that we're knocking Elon's platform platform but uh you know we've been kind
of glitching all week and uh today especially um you know with with gov going through airport and
everything a little disconnected and some of the speakers are bouncing or some of the audiences
see bouncing in and out but what i will say though uh we do appreciate you hanging out with us and
you know what we're seeing on the timeline, we're just going over that, speaking about algorithm changes for, you know, the most part without going code by code like some of us like to do.
Say we're reading 50,000 lines of code.
But what we're just talking about is what we're seeing on the timeline, hanging out all this stuff out there, putting out there for conversation.
But, you know, anything else that like you see other.
Oh, God, I see other oh god i see you
back up hopefully uh you're in a good spot no we're waiting for but all the wi-fi and services
all for this airport but i've enjoyed the conversation i've actually been able to hear
it i just couldn't really speak isn't tropic an amazing host he just like kind of you know
brought everybody back to what we're talking about gave a little summary and letting this
last 20 minutes for people to understand what we're actually covering such a great host man good job the best
no i appreciate it but uh yeah it's been it's been really good just hanging out with you guys
in case anyone came in and that's what we're talking about but yeah a lot of uh things are
going on but going into this weekend you know anything else you guys are looking forward to whether, whether it's in the markets per se or seeing what we're seeing on the timeline, anything to look forward to, any numbers, you know, because at the end of the day, we're all here.
We're getting our information. We're sharing it. So love to hear what you're looking forward to.
I want to disclose something that's probably going to be funny to some of you guys and others might hate.
of disclose something that's probably going to be funny to some of you guys and others might hate.
I don't have as much time as I used to to be on X. So if I'm replying to some of you guys,
there is a good chance it's not me. How do you feel about that?
Well, as long as you're saying nice things about me and puffing up my ego, just like what you just did, even though it could be an assistant faking your voice.
I mean, it feels great to me.
No, I'm talking about the reply guy strategy because you just pointed something out that works really well.
Go ahead and like, yeah, if you want to test this out, by all means, go ahead and write a post saying, I just read X number of lines from the code of, you know, of the algorithm.
This is what I found out about it.
So you don't have to.
Not that anybody else posts anything like that,
that you might guys have might've seen on the timeline,
but it works, right?
And I've never seen that post.
Who would post anything like that?
I have no idea.
But to give that guy credit,
if you take a look at your, you know,
biggest creator in the world,
he literally just rinses and repeats everything
that he does. Like if it works, he just keeps at it, right? One person versus whatever, one versus
whatever, one versus whatever, like you're going to see the same trends over and over again.
If the algorithm is catching on and people are watching it, people are following through,
they're just going to keep doing it. So, um, the only way to change that is if you
stop clicking, stop engaging. Um, I hate saying it this way, but the power is in your hands, not the algorithms.
And it's actually one other thing, too, is even if you do repurpose your own thing, like a lot of times, no one, I would say probably 5% of your audience, if that, actually saw it anyways.
And this is a tip I'm going to just, you know, Ani always talks about as far as, you know, I was trying to put out 100 pieces of content in one week.
He's like, there's a lot of posts.
She's like, well, most likely you have old posts that no one saw.
So you can spin that in a different way and present it that's more relevant to what's going on today.
I was like, oh, crap.
That was like a mind blowing moment for me.
Simple thing.
But it is what it is as far as relating to
people and everything but yeah man no uh dp it's been a while since i you know heard anything from
you um as far as again down in the trenches hanging out with like the astro guys and uh what they're
doing as far as communicating with the audiences and building up some massive spaces uh and just
content just a high engagement love to hear your thoughts on that before we kind of wrap up.
We have about a few minutes left.
Yeah, no worries.
So interestingly enough, the largest space ever occurred last week
when CZ jumped into Alex's space, right?
Love him or hate him.
Alex and Books and their crew, they're're actually marketers and i always say this right
they study the algorithm in the background and for years they've just been like figuring out
loopholes uh they strategize you know on on where the weaknesses are what's what the algorithm is
is throwing weight behind at any given point and they leverage that
they really use that so it's you know many people will see like oh cz just randomly jumped into
their space because it's the largest space when in reality these guys have been at it for years
building their subscribers and um just like really like freaking the algorithm like sometimes um we
have these conversations
dropping where, you know, like I remember Richard at one point was like, you know,
why aren't you using capital letters on to start your tweets? And I'm like, I don't know. I see
these guys, they're starting everything with lowercase letters. I guess it makes it seem
like you're using a PC and you're not using the shift or something. I have no clue, but
for some reason, the algorithm seems to be you know throwing weight
behind it so every now and then i'll post a tweet where it it looks like i don't know maybe the the
the reading level of the tweet is dumbed down to like you know a high school or or uh elementary
school level right and somehow the algorithm takes it then there's times where you use extremely big
words for some reason and you might get some traction and these guys have mastered
you know playing around with the algorithm so once they put their weight
behind Astor like it just started to grab everyone and having CZ on there
kind of you know put the staple on it. That's, if you search up now, that's like, it's like, you know, the largest Twitter space of all time. And that occurred, you know, not just
by coincidence. And I think Aster, you know, as I mentioned before, it's a decentralized product.
It's hitting all the right narratives, right right where even when people are reluctant to look into it
before once they really see that it is a decentralized dex um no kyc etc uh probably
the only place where even you know bitcoiners um i don't want to give too much alpha but uh in the
future where you know you'll be able to um spot in and spot out without KYC with really large plays.
Right. I'm speaking like millions plus and without worrying about price impact, without worrying about, you know, the usual regulatory issues with with centralized exchanges. So I just think Aster, it's grabbed the mindshare
because even from the perp perspective,
it's now, you know, people who are into like memes
and pump fun nonsense, it's a casino, right?
So they get the same dopamine hit, I think,
when they get rugged and they could gaslight themselves
saying they learned a lesson.
They get the same dopamine hit when you get liquidated on perps. So a decentralized platform,
I just think it's hitting all of the keys. So everyone's kind of rallying behind it. All the
KOL is just like really looking at it as this might be a, you know, not your average rug pull
project. And somehow it's grabbed all the hype and the Twitter algorithm is going to run
with that. You know, if it's getting the most views,
it's going to throw the weight behind that. And these guys know it. So, um, uh,
it's, it's interesting, but it's like, it's, I don't know. It's like,
it's like it's in the playbook. It's in their playbook, if that makes sense.
Right. So those who do pay attention to how the algorithm swings
and sways to like different you know narratives or styles of tweets different media you know
sometimes video goes a lot further than just an image we know know links. Links suck, right? That's almost on every platform.
And I just think, you know, regarding Aster, these guys, like the masters of the algorithm
grabbed onto Aster really early, and everyone's just following behind that.
Yeah, one thing I will say, it looks like we need to probably try to get CZ on one of
these little spaces. But I don't know as far as the numbers were for that thing, One thing I will say, it looks like we need to probably try to get CZ on one of these
world spaces.
But I don't know as far as the numbers were for that thing, but I've seen some pretty
ridiculous numbers in some of these, too.
So we have a goal to go after.
But anyways, as we are going towards the end, toss it back to action for any final thoughts,
because I know we just went all over the place,
but we're getting ready to kind of head out of here.
It was a lighter day today.
Some of the crew was obviously traveling and various things are happening on
the platform.
you know,
whether better or worse,
we are here.
So we appreciate everybody that's in the audience hanging out with us as
we're talking about all these different things on the platform,
what we're seeing,
but any,
you know, closing thoughts,
anything to leave us with to check out,
whether it's on your timeline or what's going on with you action.
I'm spinning up a new, well, new, old Twitter account here on X
over the next week or so you're, you're going to see new stuff coming out,
but my biggest recommendation for anybody that's on X search for the things you actually care about, the things you enjoy,
because your timeline is actually going to get filled with things you actually enjoy.
Don't go down the rabbit hole of like, I'm going to go doom scrolling here.
That is the easiest way for you to, A, not be efficient,
and B, get dragged down some really weird rabbit holes that are not worth it.
So if you want content that's going to be catered
to the things that you like, that you enjoy,
search, go ahead and actually do the legwork.
It takes a little bit of work for it
to understand what you're into,
what you like, what you dislike.
So use the platform.
Don't just let the platform use you.
It's the best way for you to get the content
that you're actually looking for
as opposed to letting the algorithm use you uh it's the best way for you to get the content that you're actually looking for as opposed to um letting the you know the algorithm um use you instead so biggest thing you can
possibly do i think 100 and i would even say even if you're not a creator and you're just someone
who is surfing i think it's worth to get premium and just use the uh the the the uh the search
feature on x pro and just sift out. You can create lists,
specific people that you want for finance, whatever it is. And you can filter it down to say,
I only want direct posts from Wolf Financial within the last half an hour. Those are the
ones I want to actually filter down right there. Not replies, not retweets, not quoted tweets,
but you can filter it out specifically
like that, and this is really cool.
Even as someone who's just consuming, not necessarily
creating content, I think that is absolutely
awesome. But DP,
also, same thing for you
as we're getting ready to roll out of here
on a light day. What should you look
out for you from your timeline?
What are you working on? Whatever it is, as you know what you're checking out on X?
Yeah, unfortunately after this I'm falling back into the aster
So I'm kind of looking forward to that and I'm gonna touch some grass this weekend, bro
It's been it's been a crazy week crazy crazy week
And I think you know
I totally agree with
action you want to control your timeline and your feet as much as possible and
for you to do that you actually have to interact with it so the algorithm learns
what you like right so that's that's that's a thing rather than just letting
it feed you information so to speak and having multiple accounts um is also a good thing just
like a little uh i'd like to add that because um sometimes you want to step outside of the bubble
and really see so if you if you have your main account and you notice like your timeline is just
literally maybe one two or three topics um you never know what you're missing out on so sometimes it is it is kind of good to have a second account and uh maybe not so many followers are following and and just kind of
get a blank slate um that you could really manipulate with in a separate account to be
you know up on uh what you like and and what you you know what's interesting to you so um
just kind of reiterating what Action said.
But yeah, that's it.
I'm looking forward to probably getting away
from the numbers this weekend as much as possible.
We have our game night on Saturday.
CaribDow, if anyone's listening.
Other than that, I'll probably just be hanging out.
Oh, yeah, Bitcoin is ripping.
Oh, really? See?
Yeah, yeah. The whole market is going
right now.
Nice.
It does seem like a weekend where
we could gladly take off. Go ahead.
Sorry.
No, it's all good. Everyone's happier
when the weekend starts
off with green candles.
At the end of the day, we were here for the last hour.
We're talking about all the things that we're seeing on the X timeline.
And of course, the algorithms and just hanging out with the Spaces crew.
And as far as anything that you have been seeing, please feel free to let us know in the comments.
It was great hanging out with you guys.
This is Tropic.
Agab is going through some traveling right now.
And he's on stage, but
that's why it was a little bit more quiet and you're hearing my voice. But other than that,
we were here. Please check out the schedule. It is a pin post that is on the page. You can see
multiple spaces coming up, both on the trading side, stocks on spaces, and lots of great spaces
coming up for not just today, but the rest of the week as well. Please feel free to follow those
on stage. That's another way to curate what is on your timeline
is to follow great people.
And thanks for hanging out with us, Action, DP, Gov, safe travels.
And again, please check out all the amazing things that's happening.
I don't know if you have a last word, Gov, but there we go.
Say hi to security for us.
You guys have a good day.
I'm through security.
I'm putting the plane right now.
Nice, nice, nice.
All right.
Have a good one, guys. Thank you.
