Thank you. you what is up party people welcome on in how's it going happy thursday happy thursday what
are you guys been up to this week not a whole lot man
making money making money alex you uh you hit some big milestones on youtube huh
yeah we're popping off on youtube a lot of good things happen there we're about to hit 19k
uh videos popping off left and right things are things are going good we got a we're hitting a
a thousand dollars a month of ad revenue now there so it is it's looking good
on youtube we're growing we're gonna we're gonna keep filming i want to put out four videos a week
i want to keep it going how do you prioritize um you know like youtube versus x versus businesses
versus pieces like that how do you structure how do you stay scheduled it's a good question um
structure, how do you stay scheduled?
YouTube's my top priority right now over everything. The upside there is insane.
If you make it big on there, you pretty much can do whatever you want in the
content or business world. You have pretty much complete freedom.
So, I mean, obviously number one is the health of CreatorBuddy and building
things out there, but I'm pretty, I have to get at least two to three YouTube videos out a week.
I have to because growth there unlocks success in so many different ways.
Like if I become big there, I can pretty much launch anything I want and have success with it.
I can launch, you know, five more different CreatorBuddies and they're pretty much guaranteed
to succeed if you have attention over on that platform so that's my priority number one priority number two is
building and developing you know all my ideas um you know i have my follow-up app to creator buddy
uh being built out right now coming out soon i'm constantly adding more features to creator buddy
so those are big and then x i mean just unfortunately the leverage on x is just not very high right now so um you know i you know my most successful
post on x is when i take things from youtube and frost post them here so i don't spend quite as
much time over here that's fair that's fair action what's your thoughts on youtube
he's so right like i'm laughing because alex is dead on like it's kind of crazy i know a lot of
youtube people that can literally go on any platform and be successful just because they
do have that following on youtube um and to answer the same question how do i pick where i'm actually
creating and doing stuff for i usually go where the money is like wherever people are paying me
and i'll create content for them um but i just recently a week and a half ago, basically, while I was in Vegas,
I earned everything out so I can actually have somebody else help me manage all of this crap so
I can focus on actually growing and they can just build people. I have like $50,000 in outstanding
invoices that I haven't invoiced people for, dude, just because I don't have the time.
Yeah, it's kind of stupid. But yeah, get help. that's just one thing i'll say if y'all
if y'all are overwhelmed you got too much going on just get help
okay i do have another topic i want to talk about um it's a ketamine is it ketamine because that was
i'm sorry elon all right well it does have to do with Elon. So the quote just came out.
Penny, I'm going to ask you first.
This is a quote I just saw.
Trump says, Elon Musk and I had a great relationship.
I don't know if we will anymore.
What happens when the Trump stans and the Elon stans are torn within?
There are two wolves inside you, and now they are fighting.
A hush fell over the room. Alex?
Pretty funny moment in time right now where
you have one set of dick riders going up
against another set of dick riders, up against another set of dick riders.
And it's like, okay, people have to choose which dick to ride at the moment.
Do I ride this Trump dick or do I ride the Elon dick?
People are having to make the decision now.
And lines are being drawn.
And, okay, which side are you on?
And it's interesting to see the sides people are choosing.
It's pretty split right now. But now you have to choose a d to ride and people are having to make that decision
it's a tough decision to make for a lot of people the great the riding wars of 2025
yeah penny yeah sorry my mic uh wouldn't unmute before so i had to drop down and clear it. For me, it's not even a decision.
When we're talking about the economy, when we're talking about the way that all of this big, giant,
supposedly beautiful bill is going to affect our economy and our deficit, I trust Elon.
Elon brought a lot of the people on X to the Trump train,
I just definitely supported him over Kamala, right?
I mean, in the list of choices, he was the easy one to make for me.
But, you know, as it comes to a rift, I didn't hear that quote from Trump.
You know, as it comes to a rift, I didn't hear that quote from Trump.
I'm not surprised to hear it, especially because I saw Elon quoting a few old Trump posts today
that were more or less echoing exactly what it is that Elon is trying to say
as he criticizes this bill as raising the debt ceiling.
You know, if we have a deficit, members of Congress should be fired.
These are things that Trump said back in like 2013. Elon's quote posting them now and saying they're a good idea.
He just sticks to his principles.
I think he's probably happy that the Republicans took power.
But, you know, given the way that they've handled the Doge situation, their lack of, you know, commitment to codifying any of those changes, and now just, you know, more or less presenting an awful budget and saying like, oh, it's all we can do.
If we try to change anything, it won't pass.
And then it's a disaster.
You know, it's just like the same politics crap we've heard over and over again. And I'm tired
of that. So I'm with Elon. I was with Elon from the beginning. Let's stop spending like degenerates.
It just seems like common sense. And I don't understand how the Republican Party, who's
supposed to be fiscally responsible, they're just not.
Did you get your answer, Alex?
You know who he's writing, right?
I've never been... As I said, lines are being drawn.
Alex, you're cutting in and out.
I'm just curious if anybody else is hearing you cutting in and out.
No, it's me. It'm just curious if anybody else is hearing you cutting in and out. No, it's me.
happening. The service in this
building is just terrible. The Wi-Fi stinks.
Everything stinks. I'm going to have bad internet for the rest of my life.
Wait, is this your new place?
Yeah, but it's in the car.
I don't bring it in the apartment.
I'm toast. I'm cooked. It's over.
He's cooked? Which Wi-Fi do you use?
AT&T. Never get AT&T. Ever. Ever.
Never use AT&T for anything.
Unless it's fiber. And that's rare.
It is the fiber. I have the gigabit fiber are you joking
no at&t sucks i learned this like almost 10 years ago at&t is never no i switched over to t-mobile
and i switched my uh internet to verizon like at&t is just absolute trash it goes out five times a
day five times a day my internet goes out that that's the one reason i miss the east coast is the internet
speed and reliability because everything on the west coast i feel like it's just terrible as far
as connectivity is concerned but hey wolf in regards to your trump elon thing here um i was
at bitcoin vegas last week and so good to see you guys out there wolf crew is like out there in
masses did you see the jacket that i that i had on action was repping the the hardest
trump jacket of all time so it was no way oh yeah you should have seen it full gold sequins alex
yeah i'll try to there's a picture out there somewhere i'll put it up so you guys can see it
but it was great because that jacket got me like a bunch of interviews like i talked to
the wall street journal i talked to the verge i talked to investopedia and a bunch of interviews like I talked to the Wall Street Journal I talked to the Verge
I talked to Investopedia and a bunch of other people that wanted to get quote unquote that hot
take um you know from somebody wearing a Trump jacket and it was great because instead of them
baiting me I got to bait them it was the the perfect you know psyop uh for this whole thing
because like yeah I like the fact that Trump is taking,
cause the whole thing is like,
well, it's all Trump or nothing, right?
And I'm like, no, quite the opposite.
Cause he didn't go to the conference, right?
He didn't go to Bitcoin conference this year.
He went last year and they're like,
Are you, you know, a little, you know,
down since Trump isn't here?
Like, I know he was here last year for the votes.
What do you think this means?
And I was like, well, I think this this is great i'm not here because of trump i'm here for the
fact that they're supporting crypto and all the things that go along with it i'm sure that you
guys want to make sure you know want to come out and say that there's tons of things that are wrong
with not only the administration but how they're actually going about this and if it's not trump
it's nothing but quite the opposite i'm excited excited to see Vivek out here. He's leaving the administration, running for office in Ohio, and he's still, you know, killing it.
You got J.D. Vance out here.
So it's not a Trump party.
It is a bunch of people that actually support freedom and cryptocurrency and want to see this world do better.
So, no, sure, I got a fancy Trump jacket on, but that doesn't mean that that's where my alliance, you know, ends. It ends with whoever's supporting liberty and freedom. And it was quite hilarious
to see their faces not being able to have a comeback to that.
So it was like a fake Trump support jacket then?
No, I mean, I support Trump as long as he supports freedom. That's basically what I told him.
I support Trump as long as he supports freedom.
That's basically what I told him.
Do you want the jacket, Penny?
I was waiting for my plane ticket action.
I was supposed to be with you with your gold jacket.
I would have flown you out of Carlsbad, dude.
Next time. Next time. I would have loved to see it that'd be
a fun uh fun thing to be a fly on the wall of his action running around with his gold sequin jacket
it was very entertaining i had so many random people literally stopping me not only like at
the casino uh but like on the street asking to take pictures of me it was the funniest thing in
the world oh somebody from the trump administration this girl me. It was the funniest thing in the world. Oh, somebody from the Trump administration,
this girl came up and was like,
I'm going to send it to Trump right now and literally like texted him.
Yeah, they had some interesting speakers there.
They did send JD Vance instead this year.
I suppose he's the more crypto-oriented of the two,
so that makes it interesting.
if you're curious to get your thoughts,
I do feel like that's been a lot
of what my X page has been lately.
It's the Elon slash Trump stuff.
It's a lot of crypto stuff that's going on here.
Less fight videos these days.
I feel like less fight videos for sure.
I mean, I don't use the for you anymore.
I have a list of like AI people
and I just look at them all day.
Politics, I'm just done with.
I've had enough politics in the last eight months
that for the rest of my life,
I just don't need it anymore.
It's horrible. It's cancer. It cancer it really is cancer politics nothing will ever be
accomplished and the people involved are just the absolute worst uh all ai all day every day cursor
1.0 just came out it's incredible cursor 1.0 everyone should be on it it's amazing what to do
it has background agents it does alex uh it it literally does so it has background agents
um and basically what that means is like you can spin up infinite amount of ai agents and give each
one a different task and they all work simultaneously on whatever you want so for
instance creator buddy wasn't mobile optimized up to this point um it was you know it was optimized
just for desktop if you try to use on mobile it works but it wasn't quite optimized up to this point. It was optimized just for desktop.
If you try to use it on mobile, it works, but it wasn't quite as good.
So when I got background agents a couple of days ago,
I spun up 11 different AI agents.
And for each AI agent, I said, please optimize this one specific tool for mobile.
And then I hit go on all 11 of them.
I woke up and my entire tool my entire creator buddy was
mobile optimized when i woke up because each ai agent went and mobile optimized a different ai tool
um and something that would have taken like two weeks before literally happened in my sleep while
i was sleeping ony have you used it on mobile the last couple days it's live i'm gonna check it out
right now it's live right now oh my god'm going to go check that out right now.
Have you used it mobile the last day, the last 24 hours?
I normally don't use mobile because it's very difficult to use it on mobile.
Use it on mobile right now.
What she meant was that the mobile one sucked, dude.
No, it did. It did. I told Alex that, I couldn't see anything. No, it did.
I think I have to still push a couple more of the tools live, but most of them are mobile
I'm just tinkering with a couple of them, but all the main tools are live, except for
ReplyGuy, I just got a mobile optimized save.
And AI agents did that for you?
AI agents did that while I was sleeping.
Before I went to sleep, I spun up 11 AI agents in Cursor,
and they all went to work while I was sleeping
and mobile optimized my entire application.
Can we get a little bit more in-depth on what this means
to spin up an AI agent and
utilize them some other pieces?
So here's what it means on a technical level.
You click new background agent.
And what happens is in the cloud.
So on the internet, cursor makes basically a copy of your entire code base.
And in its own virtual environment, the agent takes whatever task or command you gave it
and then goes to work and starts building the code
And so if I spin up 11 of these,
I click new AI agent 11 times.
And then each agent is basically like a bot you talk to
and the agent goes, hey, what do you want me to do?
I say, okay, mobile optimize the reply guide tool, mobile optimize the AI coach tool, mobile
optimize the content coach tool.
And I give each of the 11 AI agents a command and it's in 11 different tabs in cursor.
And then you wake up and you go on each tab and the AI agent goes, yep, the job's done.
And then you can click a button which pulls down your code from the cloud, puts in your
local environment, then you test it. And when it's good to go, you can click a button which pulls down your code from the cloud, puts in your local environment. Then you test it.
And when it's good to go, you can ship it to production.
Penny, Action, have you guys created these?
Have not, but I'm liking the output that Alex got so far.
No, I haven't used Cursor 1.0.
When I've been doing my Vibe Coding coding adventures i've actually been using windsurf which
i got recommended by alex i haven't uh popped in in the past week or so but with cursor 1.0 coming
out i've been meaning to to switch over and if alex switched over it probably answered any questions
i had of whether or not it's worth it.
Definitely make the switch.
Two big reasons to switch over.
Reason number one is the background agents, which I just told you, which are unbelievable, revolutionary.
Number two, WindSurf does not support Claude 4.
So Anthropics, new model. WindSurf does not support it,WD4, so Anthropics' new model.
Windsurf does not support it,
so you can use CLAWD4 and Cursor.
The reason why Windsurf doesn't support it
is OpenAI bought Windsurf,
and Anthropics' competitors were OpenAI,
so they didn't let them use it.
And CLAWD4 is just 20 times better
than any coding model ever,
so it's absolutely incredible.
So yeah, it's time to switch back to Cursor.
Wait, so Cloud4 leapfrogged over Gemini now.
2.5 is no longer the code king.
Yeah, and it's not even close, honestly.
What it does is, it's like a focused version of 3.7
where it does exactly what you want to say.
But it also does, it'll update all the readme files as you go.
Like you just think of all the extra things to do that you really wanted to
do. And it does it. So it's it's by far the best by far.
Oh dang, I'm fired up. I got to get cursor 1.0 installed today.
Yeah. I'll just say this. If, if you're here and you're not built right now you're going to be
totally irrelevant in the future in the next five years you're going to lose your job no one's going
to want to hire you like you need to be building things right now i cannot stress it enough this is
this is the most revolutionary technology of our age um it's unlocking so much economic opportunity
it's unbelievable and if you're not taking advantage of it,
you simply do not care about money.
You simply do not care about surviving in this world.
This is such a good tweet.
I got to write this down.
I just, that's a verbal tweet I just said.
I'm going to put it down in CreatorBuddy, of course,
so I can optimize it with the AI content coach.
I really want to ask a question if possible If, uh, Penny, go ahead. And then I, I really want to ask
a question if possible. No, go ahead, Ani. Um, so my question is, so everybody's building
apps, right? And obviously the market's saturated. There's people just coming up with apps left
and right. Um, when you do end up making an app, let's say a full-fledged app, like how
does the monetization process and getting it approved and getting it on the market work?
I guess I can answer as it relates to apps.
Alex, I don't think has made an app yet, right?
He made Creator Buddy, which is a web app
and he mobile optimized it using cursor agents today.
But the way that you can monetize an app like in the app store is by selling things, either a subscription or the app itself in the app store.
I mean, that's pretty much how you monetize an app.
And if you have no top of funnel to get people to see it, then good luck, right?
You're counting on the app store to be the search engine
to find your product at that point.
So I think, you know, some people might pay for ads on X
Some people might build a platform.
Some people already have, you know,
other advertising channels that they would use,
but the hard part is getting it out in front of people
and then, you know, they just use the app store to pay you.
Yeah, so I don't build any mobile apps because, so there's two completely different games, web apps and mobile apps.
Web apps, the game, in my opinion, is very straightforward, right?
You build a web app, you put it live, and then you talk about it on social media.
Like, that's how I got users on Creator Buddy is I just built it and then I went on and tweeted about it a ton, right?
Very simple A to B game to play.
Mobile apps is different.
Mobile apps is a completely different game.
Mobile apps, you need discovery in the app store.
So whether that's paying for ads, whether that's just virality and optimizing for the app store,
the downside is that's a very difficult and unpredictable game to play.
It's almost like a gamble, very difficult. The upside is, is like if you do hit it and you do go viral and you do
optimize for the app store and like you are showing up in searches and you're on the homepage,
I mean, you're overnight making millions of dollars. If like you have any sort of monetization
in your app, right? Like you could overnight get millions of people using your app that you've
never talked to in your life. And so that's the upside of it. It's just a much more unpredictable game. And until I'm like, really, really comfortable building and launching and shipping apps, I don't feel like playing that game just yet, because I feel like I have a very predictable path for web apps, which is like, I have 300,000 followers here, I have 20,000 subscribers on YouTube youtube like i can just talk about my app and
people see it so for now i'm playing that game but the mobile game is you know it's a much harder
cookie or nut to crack but if you can do it the upside is tremendous there's a lot of gaming that
goes on in there as well especially reviews and stuff so um it's a lot harder than people think
to play in that realm yeah i was watching this podcast on this.
I think this guy's going viral right now.
He's making almost $2 million a month off of like just an app that he built
using AI, completely using AI.
And it's just a very, very simple fitness app.
And you take a picture of your food and it gives you all the calories
and all the macros and everything else and he's like the way he talks about building and the
way he talks about how he advertised um the app and how he went viral it is just absolutely
incredible like if you haven't checked him out like i'll probably i'll drop a link in the purple
pill there's a podcast that he like broke everything down and oh my God, he's such an inspiration.
I was like so blown away by what he's doing.
He's still going to high school.
He's not like, he's not dropping out.
He plans on going to college.
It's like, oh my God, people are building
incredible things out there.
And I can't believe I'm still sitting here
but I'm working on something.
I'm working on something with lifestyle.
Yeah, it stays really intriguing to me.
Alex, one thing I'd love for you to maybe talk to, and you do this in a lot of your YouTube videos,
is you talk about the everyday person is going to be left behind if they don't do this,
but I think it still sounds pretty daunting to most people.
Like, was there something you can compare it to as like, hey, people might have found this daunting until the first time you tried it.
And then, you know, you're like, oh, this isn't so bad.
I'm just curious if you have some comparisons like that.
No, I mean, you just got to do it.
There's nothing to compare it to.
There's nothing been anything like this ever in the history of humanity um success has never been this democratized
you just everyone here literally has the opportunity to just go and build something
with no skills required and put it out and make money um and it seems complex like it feels
complex but it really isn't uh and you know it really just comes
down to who is going to take action i don't think there's ever been another opportunity where it
just comes down to who is willing to take action who is willing to fucking put their nuts on the
line and risk and risk it and like just put shit out there and there's i don't think there's anything
ever been anything like this at all and the funny funny part is, is like, so few people are willing to take the action.
There's so many people know they have to do this.
They know this is like a revolutionary moment in time, but they just like never do it.
And it's just the way humans are programmed.
And like, I guess at the end of the day, not everyone can win.
It's not how like capitalism works. Not everyone can be a winner. There has to be winners and there has to be losers. So I guess it's just kind of the way nature works that not everyone's doing everything, but there's still just such absurd, tremendous amounts of opportunity at the moment to take advantage of.
So I got asked this question not so long ago, and I think the best way I could actually
compare it is driving, dude.
That just hits home with a lot of people.
It's like the ability for you to drive.
Yeah, maybe you'd never got behind a wheel before, but guess what?
If you get behind that wheel, you're going to be able to get to your job in 30 minutes
instead of three hours if you're taking public transportation.
It's kind of the same idea. It's just a new phase of technology, right? Like beforehand,
people are like, why am I ever going to get in that metal thing? I like my horse. I think we're
kind of living the same thing. It's just in a different, you know, different environment.
That's all it is. It is still speeding up production. It's speeding up how we get things done.
And given, I mean, it is exponential too.
Like the further along we get, the bigger things are really getting in,
the more impactful that these changes are going to be.
But for somebody that has never driven a car before to tell them,
like, yeah, you can be free from your little neighborhood.
That's a game changer in the same way that I think, you know,
AI is really a game changer for people to get out of their little bubbles and being able to not only explore the world, but, you know, seize a ton of opportunities.
Creator Buddy being the perfect example of that.
I just wanted to ask about some of the costs associated with, let's say, buying a domain, paying for Cursor or WinSurf or anything else.
Like, what are you paying for right now, Alex?
So I'm going to ask you this question, Ani.
And this is not me coming at you.
How long have you had those questions?
Oh, at least in the month of time.
Why didn't you just immediately go to AI and ask it?
But it's just so, it confuses me because, like, obviously I use AI every day.
But it confuses me in a way where, like, I don't know if it's hallucinating
or if it's telling me something.
And then sometimes it'll give me tools that I really don't want to, like, learn about.
I mean, I've only been looking into it what i think
for two weeks now just like brainstorming first of all it took me a little while to like actually
figure out what i would really want to be doing and then once i did figure that out then i held
all these questions and then i'm just like well then there's this and that and then i'm busy and
you know but yeah i i do ask ai a lot i just want to kind of just get a personal, like an actual full on.
Well, I'll make two points. One to answer your question. I paid $50 for creatorbuddy.io, the domain.
I pay $5,000 a month for the XAPI. I pay probably about $400 a month for AI API calls for the users of creator buddy.
And hosting on Vercel is about, you know, costing like $80 a month.
So those are, those are really all my expenses.
Now, the second point I'll make is like, I think this might be the most important skill
action. I think having a bias toward action is the most important skill in the entire world right
now. And what I mean by that is, is like the moment you have a question, the moment you have
like a curiosity, you just immediately go to AI and ask it, no matter what it is. The moment you have any sort of open loop in your head,
you immediately close the loop with AI.
Whether it's an idea for an app, then you go to the AI and build it.
Whether it's a question about how something works,
you go to the AI and ask it.
I think that skill instantly puts you above,
if you have that bias towards action,
to immediately close any loop that
you have in your head instantly puts you above 99% of people out there because 99% of people do not
have a bias toward action they have a bias toward procrastination they get a question to go oh you
know I can't really do that that's not really for me I don't I'm not going to learn that that's too
tough that's too difficult. That's too complex.
And they just put it off and then they go and smoke weed and get high and play video games and watch porn, right? I'm waiting for you. Join me. Join me.
So 99% of the time, that's what people will do. But if you can be the 1% that has the bias toward
action, right? Like you have that open loop. How do I do that? Or is that possible? Or has someone else done that? And you immediately open up that GPT on your phone,
right? And then take that action. Like that's a skill set that's going to pay dividends two,
three months from now when that led to you either having skills you never had before,
building a product you never built before. Like. I think that's honestly the most important skill in the world right now.
So I have one more question and then I'll let you guys just carry on with the conversation.
I launched a newsletter two weeks ago.
And I just want to know, I feel like newsletters are very saturated right now.
And I am trying to educate people on AI with it and kind of like some of the lifestyle and social media stuff
that I talk about. Do you think newsletters are just a waste of time right now?
No, newsletters are incredible. Newsletters are the best marketing channel in the world
because you go directly to people's email. So they're guaranteed to see you when you tweet on
X, right? No one's guaranteed to see you.
If you did something that the algorithm thinks is silly, like the 10 trillion landmines in the application and they decide one day, oh, I'm just not going to show your shit to anyone anymore.
Like you have zero control on here.
But newsletter, you control your audience you know
you have the emails they're guaranteed to see your shit when you send it to them um and that's
incredibly incredibly powerful right i have 40 000 subscribers now in my newsletter and i can
launch a product and i'm guaranteed to have fucking 5 000 signups day one no matter what it is because
of the newsletter and so uh the newsletter is incredibly important.
You're also correct that it's heavily saturated.
Everyone and their mother has a newsletter now, right?
But here's the thing is 99% of people writing newsletters don't actually like writing newsletters.
They're only doing it because someone told them to.
And so they're kind of just shitting out content and shitting out newsletters they don't truly care about.
It is not really that interesting.
And so to answer your question, yes, I still think it's worth writing them.
But only if you love the craft.
Only if you have messages to share.
If you're only sending out newsletters because that's what people are
telling you to do then I don't think it's worth it but if you love the craft and you love doing
it then I definitely think you should be doing it I just think for most most people out there
they they see people having newsletters oh I gotta do that now and then they just kind of
shit out like I get so many shitty newsletters every day in my inbox it's unbelievable so
as long as you care about the craft you'll you'll be above most people and you'll be successful
Yeah, I think the only reason I actually started is because I'm just very frustrated
with the fact that I can't really write long forms on here and long forms don't perform
well and nobody's seeing my long forms.
I've always loved writing.
So that was one of the push that I really thought that,
because every time I put out a short form post,
hey, I'm going to show it to 5,000 people.
But I put out a crazy long form post where I put in like five hours,
And it's absolutely insane
because I am here every single day.
I know exactly what I'm doing.
I'm not doing anything wrong with the platform
or the algorithm, like towards the algorithm. So that's kind of where
it came from. And I was just like, you know what, what, what if I just channel that into my
newsletters? And I try to keep things creative, you know, experimenting different things. So I've
been having a lot of fun with it. But thanks, Alex. It means a lot because, you know, thanks.
Yeah. So I think you got the right mindset you're
doing the right thing I like the mindset there awesome I love to hear that because like you know
I've pretty much grown up watching you just crazy kill it on your newsletters and I've never had the
motivation to actually start it but now that I am I absolutely love it I love writing I've been
writing every single day and uh yeah it's really really, really cool. And one more thing I
wanted to say was like, I built about 100 people already in two weeks, which is like, I couldn't
have imagined anything like this if I didn't know how to build my brand. And, you know, Alex, Penny,
Wolf, I owe you guys a lot because like, you know, learning from you guys has been some has been so
pivotal in my journey. So like, I don't want to make this about me, but you guys are amazing.
You guys are inspirational and learn everything from you every single day.
And yeah, it sounds like you're definitely on the right path and have the right mindset
I think what Alex said there was very spot on.
A couple different pieces of analysis around who should actually be writing a newsletter, and it sounds like you're in the right area. And
yeah, people will gravitate towards that if they can see that you love it. And it's the same thing
with content, right, in general on X. If you're just shelling out content for the sake of content,
people will see it the same way. If they can tell that you are shelling it out because you love it
and you want to talk about it, same thing. so i think people do gravitate towards that naturally and
something deep within us right something instinctual i guess is part of that not
that i'm an expert in any way shape or form on that but you can just tell sometimes
like action you can tell you can tell that the man truly loves it he won't even invoice people
fifty thousand dollars an invoice is sitting there.
It's a few different companies, dude.
It's a few different companies.
I also owe people money, too, because I need to get around to that.
It's just a matter of being busy, man.
He's too busy to pay them, too busy to invoice.
Yeah, something like that.
Somewhere in that middle ground.
Penny, you mentioned you were staying busy too.
Any, any new updates on things, either, uh, the agents or other things you've been working on?
No, man, actually I haven't been feeling good the past couple of days, so I haven't been super
productive, but, uh, I definitely want to check out the, the cursor 1.0. I mean, Alex is totally right when he talks about the fact that there has never been a time like now where a single person can accomplish things that used to take, you know, weeks or months in days.
And they can do things that used to take big teams by themselves.
And, you know, it's crazy.
It is a crazy opportunity.
So I'm really excited to get into more of what Alex has been doing. You know, I've had some personal things that I need to take
care of. Actually, it's been about a month that I've been busy with that stuff. But it is, it's
that time. And I'm not sure how long that time is going to last. I'm not sure where it's going after
this. But I will say, you know, it's
kind of like when the internet was new or when the app store was new and there were just like
green fields everywhere and there were entire industries to be disrupted. And, you know, it's,
it's on individuals to, to jump on that and to like, have the vision to see like, how are we
going to do, uh, this new thing or this old,
this old thing that everyone's already doing? You know, how are we going to do it different now
in the age of AI and in the age where any individual can, can build an app and sort of
like make their, their dream into a reality. So, you know, no, I don't have a whole lot to add in
terms of current events right now. I've been following Tesla and I think, um, you know, the, the Elon and, and Trump drama,
like, like you mentioned earlier, you know, that's definitely occupying some of the time
I'm a little sort of disappointed that we're, that we're not seeing the spending cuts.
You know, as, as our deficit grows more and more, like, I don't want to get into politics, but I also don't want my kids to live in debt slavery. So
I don't care who it is that figures out how to, you know, cut the spending. Uh, I I'd love to see
it. That's like, you know, part of what I've been posting about recently, uh, you know, big and,
and beautiful, uh, seem like opposites when it comes to bills.
Like, let's get, like, single issues in our bills.
Let's get, you know, just moving the country in a reasonable direction.
God, I really don't even want to get involved or talk about that stuff.
But that is what's been on my mind this week, unfortunately.
You sound a little political there. Sorry, Penny. It's like you want
the country to run a budget, like a person or a business or anything else that that's a little
crazy. I know. Right. Like God forbid these insane demands that I have for my country that we don't
like spend more in interest on our national debt than we do on our national security.
Like that alone is like such a shocking fact to,
to process that we're spending that much money on interest on stuff,
money we already borrowed or spent that we didn't have.
And we're so anxious to continue to spend more than we have.
you stay out of politics.
if you don't pay any attention at all,
then the morons keep running it.
And it's like, I don't know what to do.
I don't like anyone in politics.
I feel the same way as Alex.
I feel like the more that people, the more times people spend in politics, the more involved
they are, the more likely they are to be a douchebag.
And like, that just makes me want to stay out of it even more.
What do you do? I do watch the country go to shit that's tough to do when you have kids right i have three kids
and uh my oldest is 15 she'll be joining the workforce in a few years and like i don't know
uh what kind of shape our country is going to be in and i don't know what the workforce is going to look like so it's intimidating to just like watch our politicians make one awful decision after another
and do nothing about it uh i've been you know sort of like struggling with like what is my direction
there and do i just completely shut up and tune it out or scream louder uh that's what I'm trying to figure out right now.
First off, do you guys know who Tim Miller is?
Penny, do you know? No, who's Tim Miller?
Okay, I don't know either,
but my fiance's dad just walked into the room
and is like, why is Tim Miller on your space?
And I guess you sound very similar to him.
And he was like shocked that you weren't Tim Miller.
So I don't know what that is either,
but isn't he like some political commentator or something?
He's a political commentator,
I'm destined to get into political commentary as much as I hate it.
He does have never Trump in his bio, though.
So maybe you guys are slightly different.
I will say there's been some really fascinating quotes continuing to come out here between Trump and Elon as we've been talking.
Elon, a couple of responses here.
They're just too good not to.
All right. You guys should look through some of responses here. I got to read these out. They're just too good not to. All right.
You guys should look through some of these tweets.
But basically, Trump said, I'm very disappointed with Elon.
He knew the inner workings of the bill better than anyone sitting here.
He had no problem with it.
All of a sudden, he had a problem and he only developed the problem.
He found out we're going to cut the EV mandate.
Elon quote tweeted that and said, false.
This bill was never shown to me even
once and was passed in the dead of the night so fast that almost no one in Congress could even
read it, which tracks because if you guys didn't see this, this was a wild tweet yesterday.
This was from Marjorie Taylor Greene. Wait, yeah, on her Rep MTG account, which she tweets a shitload from.
So I have to probably scroll back a little bit here.
But she posted yesterday essentially about a portion of the bill.
And she said, I want to do this word for word.
So I'm trying to find the actual piece here to make sure that I say it accurately.
But essentially, she admitted that she didn't
actually read the bill. Here we go. She posted yesterday, two days ago, she said,
full transparency, I did not know about this section on pages 278 to 279 of the OBBB that
stripped states of the right to make laws or regulate AI for 10 years. I'm adamantly opposed
to this and is a violation of state rights,
and I would have voted no if I had known that this was in there.
AKA, I did not read what I signed,
and I definitely didn't use AI to read it for me,
It's crazy she admitted that.
It's insane she admitted that.
You know that meme, Alex?
It's like, they couldn't have tortured this out of me.
Yeah, well, she willingly posted it. So, you know? You know that meme, Alex? It's like they couldn't have tortured this out of me. Yeah.
Well, she willingly posted it.
So, you know, pretty wild.
These are the people in charge, man.
These are the people in charge of us.
It's absolutely unbelievable.
Yeah, it's pretty amazing.
For a second, I thought you were going to quote the DW meme where there's a piece of paper on the door.
And she's like, this won't stop me because i can't read yeah yeah that one's a great one too um wait let me see if there's
a couple of others within here so elon is also going on a little spree here he's quote tweeting
some of the old trump tweets, some more of those pieces.
And he also posted, he said, whatever, keep the EV slash solar incentive cuts in the bill,
even though no oil and gas subsidies are touched, parentheses, very unfair, double exclamation point,
close parentheses, but ditch the mountain of disgusting pork in the bill, all mountain of disgusting pork in the entire civilization
history of civilization there's never been legislation that's both big and beautiful
everyone knows this either you're a big and ugly bill or a slim and beautiful bill slim and
beautiful is the way just like action slim and beautiful so you know what they uh they're calling
this stuff out just like they just like you would have thought so anyway yeah they're going pretty
hard at each other uh at the
moment and it makes for this is this is good content to be honest i was about to say like
we have nothing to complain about here guys like this is entertainment for days this is what we
were talking about that we missed on x is like trump being like just all the nonsense that he
used to tweet like i i missed that so this is this is filling in a hole for me that's what she said i was kind of excited when the timeline switched to be super technical for a while and elon was
just talking about like tesla and neerolink and spacex that was amazing that was my timeline
that was the x that i joined but i got to admit though uh this trump elon drama is entertaining
it's quite painful as a Tesla investor, though.
You don't want to see him fighting both sides of the aisle at the same time.
20 seconds ago, Elon, another quote tweet.
So this guy Jesse Pelton put together a screenshot of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 tweets from Trump from 2011 to 2015, talking about
how basically Obama has bankrupted this country and Congress has no fiscal discipline and
we need to, you know, get better about debt.
And then Elon quotes me that saying, where is this guy today?
So yeah, I have a feeling this one's going to be a heater.
So Alex, are you telling me as somebody that leans into the algorithm, you're not going to engage with this at all?
And I don't care if cancer can send me cancer.
And what's sad is all Democrats on Twitter because of Elon going to Trump.
And now Elon's going against Trump.
So now all the Republicans are going to leave.
So who's going to be left here?
You know, that's all that will be left.
Interessante. I mean, all right, it's over. It i mean all right it's over it's jover well you know what give us a couple months we'll be back in nfl season you know we can ramp back up how
you feeling patriots fantasy champion i don't get you guys you realize like the nfl is literally a
distraction to keep you away from what actually matters, right?
Like just putting that out there.
I get it that we kind of go crazy over it, but like that is literally what if like what hole that fills is like we need some kind of entertainment so we don't look at reality.
Alex, how do you feel about that?
Wow. Alex how do you feel about that wow decline to co-host action
hit him in the heart area
I don't know man do you feel that way about sports
all sports they're just there to distract you
a lot of them look at the subsidies they get bro
well do you guys think sports is a bigger distraction
or somebody selling bath water
how are we three years How are we three years?
How are we three years into spaces not working?
How are we three years into spaces not working?
How is it possible for three years, this one tiny feature, this app hasn't worked?
How is it 10 times every space people stop hearing me speak? How is that possible? Why is that possible? How is it 10 times every space people stop hearing me speak?
Why cannot, why can't we?
I literally vibe to 10 apps and I push them out.
Elon or anyone else, if you hear me right now,
I will work for you for free.
I will vibe go to fix the spaces in five minutes
and fix this shit for you.
Right now on the right side of X, it says live on X.
And that stuff is actually showing spaces, not actual streams.
I don't know if y'all noticed that change.
I mean, on the inside, it's broken.
The quote unquote ad piece to it that you click into looks great.
I was trying to speak to Action the entire time he was talking and no one
Action, you said the NFL is just a distraction from what matters.
What matters in this world?
Passing a bill in the middle of the night.
Nobody's going to be paying attention to something like that if they're too,
you know, distracted by something else.
And don't get me wrong. Like if i was just literally one of them
it's not like it's it's the most evil thing there is it's just one of their tools that's all it is
but who gives a shit what are we going to do about there's nothing we can do we've lost control the
people have lost control like do you you think any of these people in congress are actually being
elected like you think there's people every few years going to the polls and actually voting for Nancy Pelosi? Like you, like, have you ever met someone
who's voted for Nancy Pelosi? No one's ever voted for Nancy Pelosi. It's all rigged. It's where,
the control is gone. We have no more control. They decide who's in Congress, who's going to
the poll and voting for Marjorie Taylor Greene. No one's voting for Marjorie Taylor Greene,
right? She's just getting elected anyway. We've lost control. There's nothing we can do. We had a president who
said all he was going to do is cut spending. He got in. He can't do jack shit. He can't do
fucking anything because Congress has control and no one has control of Congress. They have
infinite power. They will stop whatever. They will stop anything that goes in their way.
Their mission is to spend as much money as possible and no one will stop them. So who cares? I want to be distracted. I want 10 more NFLs. I
don't want to think about this shit. This is cancer. This is all cancer and there's nothing
we can do about it. You cannot vote these people out of office. You can't vote them out of office
because none of the votes count. No one's voting for Nancy Pelosi, but she's been elected 40 years
in a row. Honestly, honest question.
Anyone on stage right now, have you ever met one person who's ever voted for Nancy Pelosi?
The answer is no. No one has ever met anyone who's ever voted for Nancy Pelosi. So tell me
how she's been in office. Tell me how she's been in office for 40 straight years. You can't tell me.
You can't tell me. It's all rigged. It's all these fucking Illuminati fucks,
right? It's all these people who are drinking blood that are in office. There's nothing you
can do about it. You can't get them out and they'll do whatever they want and they'll spend
whatever they want. It's toast. I'm going to sit here, fucking play Marvel rivals and watch the
NFL and try to make as much money as I possibly fucking can with AI. And then hopefully one day,
it won't matter what Nancy Pelosi does because I'll have so much fucking money from AI.
I can just move to fucking Guadalajara
and fucking eat burritos all day
and enjoy my life on the beach.
I mean, I'm doing that right now,
but you need to say that you're not suicidal
after you go off on that rant, dude.
Oh man, he's setting himself up for failure.
By the way, everyone in the audience, that's a joke.
All right, good clarification.
Axel, would you want to respond on what actually matters in life
and why that's not football?
I mean, honestly, football is a little bit of a distraction.
I mean, I don't even have to say anymore to, quote, unquote, win this argument.
Like, he agrees that it is a distraction.
And he's just fed up at the point that it's like it doesn't really matter anymore.
And, I mean, honestly, for most people, it doesn't.
And that's why we're stuck in the hole that we're stuck in right now.
I don't want to be into politics.
I really freaking hate it.
I don't want to have to talk about stuff like you're talking about right now, Alex.
Systems are rigged and nothing is going to improve.
Nothing is going to get better unless somebody actually does something about it.
And I don't want to be that guy.
I want to be the guy that's literally just sitting out there and going, you know, Marvel
I'm terrible at it, but I'm going to play it anyway.
I could care less of who's winning, but I'm going to turn on that game.
I mean, that is literally, you're just agreeing with everything that I'm saying.
You're just jaded enough to where you're like, screw it.
I don't give a crap about this anymore.
And it sucks because I wish more people like you would actually, you know,
not only take a stance, but make changes.
Because who else is going to do it?
I mean, Penny's got kids to take care
of. No, but in all seriousness, like I really do wish that we cared a little bit more and that
it was a little bit more proactive on the quote unquote people side of things where we actually
did make decisions, where we did make calls and actually try to better this freaking world that
we live in as opposed to where we're going right now, where everyone focuses on one guy. And it's like, this is our savior. And, you know, that's Trump, our Lord and Savior,
by the way. It's him or nothing. And when in reality, it's not about a person. It's about
policies to get put in place and the way that people operate and not getting bought out,
not passing a bill in the middle of the night, like we just talked about here.
That's what I want to see. I want to see if people care enough. It doesn't have to be like all day, every day. That's all they do is politics,
but care enough to make their voices heard. Like right now I'm dealing with something in California
that sucks. They're actually looking at canceling and just putting a halt to all,
what do you call it? Charter schools, which would be highly detrimental, especially for me and my
kids. Like I'm doing everything that I can, like from calling people, like it sucks. I hate it, but I'm not going to be quiet about it because I care about
my kids' future enough to actually stand up and say something about it as opposed to just watching
football. And maybe that's not popular. Maybe that's not the way that, you know, most people
think, but if I care enough, who cares about what the rest of the world thinks and what, you know,
what other people are going to say, I'm going to go out there and do my freaking very best that i can to make my voice heard and make my
position known so that if things do come down to pipeline it's like this sucks like yeah i told you
because y'all suck um yeah i mean what do you do you give up that's just not part of my vocabulary
i'm just yeah i give up so yeah that's what i'm saying yeah i give up elon musk let's talk about
elon musk for a second elon musk he second. Elon Musk is the richest human being in the history of this planet.
The richest human being in the history of this planet.
$400 billion, the richest person in the history of this planet.
He buys an entire ass social network, Twitter.
You're breaking up now. Right in the up now right in the heat right in the heat i i'm with you though action like i can't quit man once you have kids once you have that kind
of skin in the game like i just don't think that we can allow the status quo to continue because then
there's not going to be in America for my kids, right? Like we're going to get conquered. We're
going to be like the United States of China or something if we do that. So like we got, we
unfortunately we have to pay attention. It's like what has happened so far has been shit. Yeah.
we have to pay attention. It's like what has happened so far has been shit. Yeah. Alex is
about to go on a rant about how the richest man in the world, Elon gets involved in politics and
what's happened. Now he's getting dogged by both sides. Nobody likes him, but look, he won't quit.
He won't quit. Maybe Elon is a masochist. Maybe he just loves pain, but the man cares enough that he is still, despite the fact that now, you know,
his political alliance with, uh, Trump is basically going up in flames. He can't stop
talking about how ugly this big bill is. Right. And I feel the same way. Like I, I hate it. I w it
was like weight off my shoulders when the timeline was technical and not political. And I don't want
to talk about politics. I don't want to talk about politics.
I don't want to talk about, you know, Trump or any of that.
I don't want to talk about the budget.
I don't want to talk about spending or bills.
I just want the government to not be retarded and to actually spend my taxes properly.
And that's not happening.
So like what, I mean, you either bend over and like, hope that it magically gets fixed,
but I got, you know, I got a message for you and that's like, we're a sinking ship
So you, I guess if you're going to leave the ship, if you're going to go live in Guadalajara,
like Alex is talking about, once he gets rich with his AI money, like maybe you can escape
in the next five years before we get conquered.
I don't, I can't escape in the next five years.
I got to save this country.
You know, I don't necessarily think in the same way patriotic about the borders.
I'm patriotic about the ideals.
Like, I believe in the ideals of America and like why this country was founded.
It's like, God, I can't watch.
So yeah, that's my frustration.
I wish we could get it off the timeline
but i i feel stuck in the opposite way about alex is just like frustrated and tuned out and like
i feel like i'm glued to it even though i don't want to be like i have to be
which is why i'm i have i'm actually happy it is on the timeline so people can actually see
this crap and i love the fact that it's trump v. Elon here because it's no longer a party line type of thing.
So everybody can look at it and hate it as much as they want.
It sounds counterproductive, but it's good
because now you're going to catch the attention
in the eyes of people that are not aligned
with the single party line.
People are actually going to look at it for what it is.
So I'm with you, dude, as much as I hate it.
And I'm in a cushy position.
I got to say, I have access to businesses outside of the US, like, I don't
have to pay taxes ever again, if I didn't want to. I mean, I do it because I'm a decent human being.
But like, I can, you know, dodge most things that people are having to deal with in the US.
And I choose not to because I'm part of this thing. I'm living here.
I'm doing, you know, I'm gonna live it out.
And I wanna make sure it changes,
not just, you know, circumvent circumstances
everybody else is having to live through.
You're here, you're here.
You were in like a really, really good moment there.
Yeah, my fucking momentum's gone because his app broke again.
It's been four years. Fix spaces, please. God, please.
Why is it only on MySpaces that you're on?
I don't know. I have no idea.
Did you meet Tom? Did you meet Tom last week?
From MySpace. He was hanging out in Vegas.
No, Gav was there. Gav was out in vegas did i meet him no gab was there i did not meet tom did you meet him yeah he old dude how old is he i like in his 40s but
like he just looks old in comparison to the picture that we all remember of him
i he's not super active anymore i don't know he really dropped off last few years i looked back
and he used to post on twitter all the time have you seen that yeah i did take a look at his timeline
last week as well i was like wow this guy used to be active yeah he's been you know a little quiet
lately but that's the thing that he he's living he's living that alex finn life he's basically
made money and said f all of you i'm just gonna live my life and not care about what happens around me well he's a good guy you know didn't sell data and stuff like that so
well until he sold it all i suppose whatever happened all that myspace data do you know
that's a that's a good question sold this sold us some credit card company probably
that that's a that's a good question sold this sold us some credit card company probably
yeah probably same thing that was actually probably the origin of data selling 20 your 23 and me data
by the way same thing have any guys did you guys ever do it there's no such thing as privacy anymore
every every corporation every bank in the world has all your data your dna just got sold for pennies
in the dollar by 23 and me there's nothing left there's absolutely nothing left you have nothing secret anymore
it's all sold every corporation has everything about you did you do 23 me alex uh probably
probably i definitely did but i also deleted my data as soon as there were rumors of bankruptcy
yeah dude guess what you deleted the data data absolutely jack shit you think you have the fucking opportunity
to delete data you think when you click the delete data button they did some
fucking database delete job and delete everything out of there do you think
that's what happened is that what you think yes yes
it had already been leaked so it didn't matter anymore here's a here's a little
spoiler for everyone here.
When you go and you request your data to be deleted from any company, they literally do nothing.
They go, okay, yep, delete it.
There's no such thing as privacy anymore.
No such thing as privacy.
And also, shout out if you're in the United States of America,
no expectation of privacy in public.
That's, to be honest, I'm surprised it hasn't made it to my Twitter feed.
That's my whole TikTok feed.
It's just the First Amendment auditors.
Penny, I feel like you would enjoy those feeds as well.
First Amendment auditors?
That's not your feed, Penny?
That's my feed on one of my YouTube accounts.
And I can't get away from it.
Literally my whole thing.
First movement auditors are these guys who basically go around and just with cameras in public and basically just stress test police officers. And if they're going to essentially break your rights and, uh,
not allow you to record in public. And so, cause a lot of these, like you guys will go out and
record just like right outside businesses and stuff. And the businesses are just like
calling the cops. Cause like, there's some strange people outside with cameras.
And then the cops show up and it's kind of like a, does the cop know that you're allowed to record
in public? I don't know. To be honest, the videos are pretty, uh, pretty enticing.
They've, they've locked me in. So I don't know. It's profitable too, Gav. That's the other thing
because, uh, you're getting like increased fines for constitutional rights violations. So like
it's, uh, you can make a pretty penny doing that. Yes you can also do that you can also get the sue
sue on the other side so all right real interesting stuff um kind of a wild combo today a little bit
all over the place but i liked it uh alex any other comments for you today no very straightforward
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We just got, maybe Elon's using CreatorBuddy on these tweets.
A tweet from Elon just came out.
Without me, Trump would have lost the election.
Dems would be in control of the House,
and the Republicans would be 51 49 in the Senate.
maybe it was over before it started.
over here laughing, hoping that it all turns out okay.
Ani, anything else from you?
No, I absolutely hate that Elon got so blindsided.
Like, oh, my God, I feel so bad.
Because, like, you know know I think his heart was in
the right spot and he really tried to help and you know he did make a difference it's just
you can't you can't do anything when the higher powers don't want you to and you know we we see
that from the outside I can't believe what he saw inside you know so yeah but final thoughts just uh
If action was here, he would say take action.
Take action. No, it's this lovely app not letting me unmute.
I clicked the unmute button a million times.
No. I mean, yeah, take action.
Everybody talks about that.
I mean, I don't action. Everybody talks about that.
I mean, I don't know how many times Alex had to say it today.
And when he says take action, that's usually using the coupon code action.
It doesn't matter if you're going to crypto.com or CreatorBuddy.
That thing works basically everywhere.
But in all seriousness, I am about to tweet at Elon asking him if he used CreatorBuddy because that's going to be hilarious oh boy do it uh
do it also wow the circle idea is up 170 today shout out to anyone that invested in that
ipo bro ipo ipo ipo all righty then thanks everyone for tuning in appreciate y'all we'll
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