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THE X SPACES CREW | WTF IS HAPPENING ON X
Recorded: March 20, 2025 Duration: 1:01:42Space Recording
Short Summary
This week in crypto, significant trends emerge as AI technologies gain traction, with Baidu's groundbreaking AI model launch and a $44 billion valuation for X following a successful fundraising round. The excitement around these developments signals a promising future for growth and innovation in the industry.
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Welcome to today's XBasis crew.
I feel like there's a lot that's been going on on X this week.
So plenty to discuss kind of across the board in a variety of topics.
Obviously you've probably seen some of the videos that are blowing up of all
this stuff happening with Teslas. There's also a whole lot of AI stuff that's been
going on. Just a ton happening there. Penny, I know I mentioned in the chat the
Baidu thing. I hadn't even really looked into that until earlier this morning I saw some more details on it. Did you notice that?
Well I was at a funeral unfortunately all day yesterday so I missed a lot of
the fun that happened at the NVIDIA conference and I definitely need to
catch up on some of that so I was actually looking through that list as we
speak right now. What's the, what's the latest on it?
Yeah.
So by do came out and said that they basically made like a GPT, uh, capable
model for 1% of the cost for 1%.
Are you kidding me?
Like 1% of what GPT four spent 1% of what we're talking about.
Okay. So this is what, is what Grok told me.
They said, Baidu, a leading Chinese technology company,
has been making significant strides in AI,
particularly with their Ernie models and related tools.
And then they basically, where was this?
One sec, I need to go a little bit farther back
in my little Grok stuff that I was looking through.
I was basically just talking to it and asking it about different headlines and pieces like
that in the world of tech and stuff along those lines.
And it said, Baidu, OK, on March 17th, China's Baidu launched an AI model rivaling GPT 4.5
reportedly at just 1% of the cost, according to Post on X and tech newsletters.
Breakthrough has sent shockwaves through the global AI scene
with implications for cost competitive innovation.
They're basically saying at 1% of the cost of what OpenAI was doing.
I just think that there's just this race now of like,
okay, can I make an AI cooler than yours for cheaper than yours,
kind of thing that's happening,
which I think is kind of interesting. And we get to be the beneficiaries, right?
I mean, it's awesome. Ultimately, I'm looking for the best AI,
not the cheapest AI,
but I do love to see price wars because what that means is that the best AI
has to compete on some level with those cheaper AIs and you know,
maybe the cheaper AIs do all right in some use cases
and you can lean on those
and the more expensive AIs are better for other use cases.
But at the end of the day,
I'm still not yet at a point with the different AI systems
where I feel like what I'm looking for is something cheaper.
That's definitely not it, right?
And I think most users are even more
on that side of things, right? Because they're not doing the super
difficult use cases, and they're probably paying like 20 bucks a
month for, you know, whatever AI it is, that doesn't seem like a
super high price to pay for an AI. And ultimately, like, I'm
still just looking for them to be, you know, the grok force of
the world. That's, that's what I'm waiting for.
Yeah. So that's just one piece that I was looking at, but I know there's a
ton else going across the timeline.
Okay.
We got some fun people up here.
Action.
What's going on?
What do you even pay attention to?
Um, I just want to make a comment on what Penny said while I agree with you, dude.
Um, I think that they're looking at the bottom line for the companies itself because it's nearly impossible for anybody
without funding right now to start have a little startup, an AI startup, just because
the training costs are so stinking high. So I think that the idea that Ernie 4.5 costs
the fraction of GPT is less to do with how much they would charge the
individuals using the LLM model and more to do with the fact that it shows that
you don't have to be a Nvidia partner with you know a big hefty bag to be able
to start something new. I think that's more what we're looking at here which
creates new opportunities. So I'm even more excited at the fact that somebody's coming out and saying this,
not necessarily because, you know, it's going to lower prices for people across the board,
but because it's going to really streamline and push innovation to the next level,
where you're going to enable more and more people to be able to take part in this economy
that has begun because of AI without having to break the
bank or sell their left kidney to do so. Do we know if the Baidu model is open source like
DeepSeq was? I mean, if we're talking about innovation benefiting from the cost savings,
it seems like they would have to share what it is that they did to achieve those cost savings. I'm skeptical that small groups will be able to compete for the large language model.
I do hope that whatever training innovation comes from this, people can use to innovate like on smaller AI systems.
But I still think things like LLMs, I mean, maybe I hope I'm proven wrong, but I just think it's going to be extremely difficult for a startup to compete with, you know,
someone who's hiring top talent, paying top dollar, and who does have an Nvidia partnership and 100,000 or 200,000 GPUs.
But we'll see. I'm definitely excited to see more and more people come into this. I think as humans, we only benefit as
this technology gets greater. People are so worried about losing jobs
and this and that. But I think what they're missing out on is just how cheap everything's
going to be, right? If these LLMs are super cheap and you can run them for cheap and it can do work
for cheap. The whole concept of money is totally different at that point. And I'm here for it
because the way that we've been doing it for the past, well well at least for the 44 years I've been on this earth has been not the most pleasant way of doing business. I think
June 30th is when there are plenty ongoing open source of this just FYI
The one thing about by do they would have very first Chinese company to join the more Western group pie
It's like partnerships and artificial intelligence
or whatever.
They joined it back in like 2018, 2019.
That whole group, their whole thing is we're transparent.
Like we don't hide.
We're not competing like how the old Google search engine wars
were back in the day.
When we have innovation, we're going to post it
and we're going to share it.
That way we can grow together.
Eventually that they'll start eating each other like dog eat dog and I'll have a big
civil war I'll blow up but hasn't blown up yet.
And the fact that Baidu was the first I think only Chinese like of the huge Chinese companies
to join mean they kind of have to share their tech.
So that's good. looking forward to it very interesting
stuff happening here mr. Finn welcome to the party how's it going here we go I'm
gonna accept the coast invite let's see if this just absolutely my phone I just
explode the moment I hit accept co-hosts. Let's see what happens. Here we go. That was the,
Did it work?
Am I working?
Nothing's happening.
He's alive.
All right.
We'll see how long,
I felt like I'm like walking across like a minefield
right now.
Like just the riskiest thing I could do is accept co-hosts
and invite a fucking X space.
Anyway, what's going on?
How are you guys doing?
Good, man. Good. Are you standing guard these days outside your Tesla protecting it?
Uh-huh. It's funny. Uh, I
maybe I'm getting paranoid, but I I went to get lunch yesterday and
I park in this parking garage near this restaurant
And there's just there's just people that look like they would
Kia Tesla walking around the garage aimlessly just kind of looking in all directions.
Do they look like you?
What the fuck does that mean?
I look like the type of guy that would Kia Tesla?
Fucking pussy.
Anyway, I get into the restaurant.
First of all, I sit in my cyber truck for like five minutes just look at him because
I got tinted windows because I don't want anyone to see me. So
I'm just staring at them to see what they're doing. They're
kind of walking around aimlessly. I go into the
restaurant I do I get a Caesar salad I do I do sit there and
watch my century mode on my phone the entire time to see if
anyone's touching my car.
Can you even Kia Tesla? I'm in San Francisco we see cyber the as well man If you if you do it hard enough, it will leave it will scratch the the metal
I kind of want to get a rap but I'm I feel like if I get a rap it'll just be like the biggest
Invitation ever for people to key it so I can't I don't as a form as a former like complete degenerate
Yes. Yes, it will
Yeah, I got a rap on my Tesla. It's okay guys. It's all right. Don't don't feel too
bad. I will say like being in California does have its benefits when it comes to Teslas.
There's just so many people who drive Teslas out here that like even even the commies actually
would refrain from keying it because it might be their friend. Actually, actually, he makes
a good point. If you have a Tesla, you live in like Oklahoma City, you're the only person with a Cybertruck.
So you invite all the hoodlums to come after it. If you live in like in San Francisco, where you know, there's Tesla after Tesla after Waymo after Waymo.
Like it's like no one cares. The sky is blue. But how many vandals are sitting in some small town in Oklahoma where you have the only Cybertruck, right?
Like there's no probably no one there who keys cars. Whereas if you're in LA or San Francisco, that could be a little bit different
I'm with action in San Diego. There's really no problems. I went up to Orange County
Yesterday there weren't really any problems there. My car was parked outside all day
No keys, no nothing.
But it is, I mean, when you see the videos online,
it's a little nerve wracking.
I saw one yesterday of some guy, like, you know,
sticking his hand down his pants and wiping his ass
and then wiping it on a cyber truck.
And I mean, man, how, first of all,
how stupid are these people, right?
Like, how many times do people have to get busted on camera and, you know,
shown to like millions of people reposted by all these huge news accounts,
get arrested, go to jail.
What, how many times does that have to happen before these idiots
realize that like cameras are everywhere on Tesla's you're
retarded if you try to keep them. Like, come on.
These people are just randomly walking through parking lots and like, oh, what a great opportunity.
I'm going to hurt Elon by keying some innocent person's car.
They're so clueless.
I'm so happy that they're clueless because that means that they're going to get busted.
If it was up to me, you know, we just deport all these people.
I can't handle it.
Penny, these are intelligent people.
Perfect example, Mr. Chris McNamara.
He's a professor over at University of Michigan.
He's the one doing this.
Professor of photography, right?
Got caught on camera.
He was just, it was pure,
it's the Martin Scorsese, pure cinema.
You're asking a wrong question, not how stupid they are,
how crazy they are.
And the different levels of crazy, the crazy you see like the guy literally like shitting
on top of a Tesla hood.
And the crazy you don't see like the guy who works at a university and crafts his, his
class to push some weird agenda that has nothing to do with like what he was hired to do.
Different levels of crazy.
But when I see a Tesla they both turn
into the fucking Hulk so
Like I said, I'm just glad they're too dumb to realize that there's eight cameras on every Tesla and that they automatically activate when you get
When they know they know they're there what I'm saying that they're so deluded when they see a Tesla
They just see red
It's like when the actions gets a couple drinks in him and starts talking that weird New York
Accent he has like people just see red and want to like just go after I see a Tesla. Yeah
You know, they're just nuts
So it's just temporary insanity then and then they finish and they're like, oh crap the car had eight cameras. I'm gonna be on TV
Exactly exactly what's to be fair. Some of them seem to be going, oh crap, while they're actually touching the car.
Yes, that too. Like, it's literally some type of weird disorder.
What's that disorder?
It's like someone said something with like Trump derangement syndrome,
where someone wears like a MAGA hat and they just lose their cool.
Like it's something like that.
It's like an actual disorder that we need to study and put in a book. Like, Hey, how can when you see a car that
looks like a refrigerator, you forget you're a human being. This entire decade needs to be studied
and like every kid who's ever born in the history of America needs to watch the documentary
and learn all of the dumb things not to do.
I mean, like, I never in my life did I think
I was gonna live through something like this,
all the way through my teens and 20s and 30s,
everything seemed so normal, and then we hit my 40s,
and it's like, holy crap, what happened to the world?
Well, I was gonna say, what if I told you, things have been a little crazy, the There's definitely more going on. What's up Bonnie? What are you watching?
Oh, nothing much.
I wanted to kind of touch on some of the AI things that you guys were talking about.
I've been doing using AI a lot between GROK, GPT, CreatorBuddy.
It's just been AI, AI, AI with content creation, deep research and all of that stuff. I think when it comes to choosing what AI you want to use, it comes down to quality.
Because if you really think about it, there's a lot of, let's say, e-commerce platforms,
like Amazon or eBay.
But at the end of the day, people don't gravitate to anywhere else other than Amazon. Amazon is so big
that nobody really thinks twice about going into some other kind of platform, right? I think with
things like GPT and WROC, as much as different types of AI come around, maybe they're cheaper,
maybe they're this or that, the convenience of using the AI that you're completely used to,
and especially after you've trained it a while, right? I feel like a lot of people are not
going to want to just keep experimenting with different things and switch over to other
things, right? So I think that's what it is. And other than that, what I've been watching,
X has been really, really down in terms of impressions. They're doing too much with
videos. I just got access to like the video analytics that they released.
Zach kind of gave us early access. He put out a post and I commented on there too.
So now you have video analytics on X. You basically get a breakdown of how
long your watch time was, kind of like what you see on YouTube, like how long your watch time was, what's your completion rate, anywhere between like seven days
up to a year. It's just a different type of breakdown. And then you also get to see
audience breakdowns in terms of what countries your audience is or who's watching your videos,
and it's specifically videos. So let's say like your
post's got a thousand views but your videos only got like 600 views. It won't only show that
specific 600 views on that video and it doesn't have anything to do your post impressions. It's
kind of cool. I think they need a little bit more work on it because like we need to uh, I don't know we still need to make videos. I think
x is not ready for um videos because you know nobody wants to watch it like I'll watch it too
like sometimes long form videos I'll watch them I'll leave them in the background but I think
um I'd rather like just do text. Yeah that was my little spill. Sorry I was ranting.
Little spill sorry I was ranting
Everybody one. Oh, you're good
I do know that that X the algorithm has changed that Elon took over it to where if you upload a video
You're way less likely to get organic views in your text. They used to be like text always went a little bit better, but
Like there wasn't like a clear blockade
There's clearly a blockade
here and I think it's because like you said Elon likes to make his money so he
knows that people more likely keep browsing through text like you said is a
feed where is it if there's a long for video they're gonna maybe stop to watch
it and then after a while they get bored and click off the app it just business
savvy I know but I don't like it yeah but they're trying to say that they're trying to make X a video first platform, right?
But then they're doing the complete opposite.
That's the case.
They said that.
Well, I mean, look at the features that Ani is talking about.
What are they releasing?
They have been working on video features.
At least they said they did, right? Like they had that they were talking about the video tab. They've been working on video features. At least they said they did, right?
Like they were talking about the video tab.
They've been focusing on live a lot.
They're releasing new video analytics.
I think they're gearing towards it, but it's a road, right?
When Elon took over, I think it was still maximum 128 character posts.
It might've been up to 256, but what a difference now, right?
We have long form, we have
videos that are three hours or even more. It's just like a totally different feed than it was then. So I think, you know, it's going to be a bit of a transition, but you talking about that bag,
right? And making money and where are the highest paying, highest converting ads, where do creators make the most money? It's in video. So my
sense is that over time, it's going to be a really good business move, whether it's
a new app, right? Like whether they continue to develop XTV and that becomes where you
go when you watch the videos, or if they find some way to work their way more cleanly
or efficiently into the feed one way or another, my sense is that like we're going to see a
more video first X is just how long does it take?
I mean, right now when I'm browsing top of the the top of the app and I see the Twitter
spaces the guys stream on YouTube concurrently show up first so I
mean that's kind of a sign but it also takes you like off-site somewhere else
so I don't know if they want to be a video platform first I would be trying
to I don't know stop that somehow without like pushing them off the
platform there hasn't been a whole I mean that's been going on for years now
it hasn't been a whole lot of push to like hey stop using YouTube and use X instead
And with the different political sphere of YouTube and Twitter or excuse me X good God knows
I live in San Francisco out to hear this every day
Partnership is probably never gonna happen. We mean that at some point you long would have to like, okay
All right. Here's what we're gonna do. Here's D day
We're gonna take on YouTube and here's the plan and we're just, we're gonna do it and we're
not gonna give up until we land that rocket on fucking Mars.
But we haven't really seen that yet and it is kind of like strapping yourself with like
a kamikaze bomb if you're gonna go that route at this point.
Well the question becomes,
can they change the psychology of the app?
Because I don't think there's
many issues with the video on this app.
You can upload like 10-hour videos.
The qualities, you can only go up to 720p,
which I guess is all right.
The main issue with videos though on X is nothing technical at all.
There's no technical issue with videos.
The issue is people just don't like watching long form videos more than 10 seconds on this
app.
So how do you change psychology?
Are there technical ways to change psychology?
Can you give bigger dopamine hits for watching longer videos on here?
I don't know how they do that.
You know, Twitter and X have spent 15 years building the psychology of this is the quick
hit app, the quick bite app.
You get quick bites of information, right?
They think that's like that's the way this app has been built for 15 years now.
How do you all of a sudden change the whole purpose of the app?
Can you do that?
Is it possible?
And if so, can it be done quickly or is this going to be like another 10 purpose of the app? Can you do that? Is it possible? And if so, can
it be done quickly? Or is this going to be like another 10 years of changing the? I mean,
there's a lot of people still calling it Twitter, right? So the question becomes, how do you
change the psychology so dramatically in a short period of time? I think that's going
to be difficult. So in the meantime, I mean, I'm still posting video, I got a banger video
coming out today. But then I'm going to put it on here.
But you know, in the meantime, I'm cross posting to other platforms.
I'm putting it on YouTube.
I've built my YouTube to almost 12,000 subscribers just by cross posting all the videos I put
on X.
So you know, I think that's a strong idea for everyone while they still figure out,
you know, the while they still figure out the psychology problem on the app, cross-posting, build audiences everywhere.
I kind of have a solution, quote unquote, to getting this mentality change.
I think that you can't try to convert everybody, but B, you got to change the UX UI because
if you continue to allow a feed that is scrollable
We're gonna be in trouble as far as video
You know digestion is concerned. So here's a quick little easy way to convert people's mindsets
allow a
scrolling system where it will scroll
both posts and
Videos and you can select if you want to go through just videos or posts and videos and as you scroll you get a new post every time you scroll as
opposed to your timeline just being this endlessly scrolling thing where the next
one is up you get it based on the next scroll and the next scroll that way you
get that dopamine hit every time you take the action of scrolling guess what
happens when you get excited when you scroll, when you scroll, you scroll more. Um, is it nice? No, I think I would hate that.
Cause he will turn this platform into more of a tick tock more than anything else.
But I think it would work.
You know, there's been a lot of talk about,
or there was for a while that Elon wanted to make this the everything app, right?
And it seems like some of those talks have died down a little bit, but Alex, do you still think that that's the end goal here,
to make this the one stop everything app?
Well, it's clearly the goal.
They've been very explicit about the goal.
The issue is, is there is
a lot of psychology that would need to change about the app, right?
Again, for 15 years, they've cornered this market
very successfully of quick hit, up to the moment,
current ideas and takes and news.
And they were the king of that.
The issue is, is there's a ceiling to that.
And when it comes to Elon, he doesn't want ceilings.
For the old Twitter team, they probably were fine
with the stock being at $30
and the value being $20 billion. There was clearly no urgency to figure out a way to make the stock
worth a trillion dollars. Elon, that's not good enough for him. He's a man of extremely high
expectations and goals. He wants us to be the everything app. He wants to financialize it.
He wants all types of media, video to be on here.
The challenge that he's going to have with that is you now have to break the corner that
you had to break the market that Twitter cornered, which is the quick hit news and updates, right?
And there's a lot of psychology that needs to be broken in the meantime, right?
The psychology of quick hit, right?
So you need people to wanna consume
long form content on here.
That's just something not a lot of people do on X.
So like they have to break the psychology there.
They have to break the psychology of being
in the moment, up to date, right?
Cause people aren't gonna post three hour videos on X
if people only see it for four hours.
Like that just, it doesn't add up.
I'm not going to spend 48 hours making a video and then put it on X just so it can be seen
for two hours.
Right.
And so they need to figure out a way to have evergreen content, content that can be seen
for years and years and years.
That's going to be the only you need to have the reward for spending extreme amounts of
time on creating videos.
Right. And so they need to break the psychology, the app of everything being up to the moment, the latest,
which is hard to do because they're a news app. So there's a lot of challenges they need to figure
out. If I was to place my bets, my bets would be Elon does figure it out. There's nothing he
hasn't figured out yet. Every goal he's put out in the world,
he's achieved and figured out. So I'm sure he'll be able to do it. I just think there'll be some
growing much like the American economy. I think the vision they have is one that's going to be
successful that is going to be a long term win. I just think short term, there might be a little
pain, but we'll see. I mean, this is still my favorite platform in the world. I love it. It's
my favorite platform. I spent all day fucking here wasting my life, but I love
it. Won't waste it anywhere else.
So there's like a big talk recently, they had their their fundraising, and they fundraised
at a 44 billion valuation. And right after that happened, you notice a lot of X employees
and also even X AI employees talking about all the cool stuff cooking behind the scenes,
how excited they are about what's coming for X. I think it was Nate that said still undervalued.
There are a lot of things happening at X that we don't know about. They've been working really hard
on getting their money licensing. My sense is that as soon as X becomes not yet the everything app, but everything
that it is now, plus a financial app, that's a huge step towards the everything app.
I think as they continue to refine the videos, like when you talk about it, Alex, I think
that another app is the way to go.
I think XTV not just on your TV, but XTB on your phone with a
totally different algorithm that is more geared towards evergreen. You can post
your videos on X. They show up on X in the feed just like they do now. You get
your like three four hours worth of bonus traffic from that feed and maybe
that even seeds the algorithm on their XTB app of like,
hey, what's popular, what's getting a lot of watch time or people making it all the way through this
or whatever else. And then it goes on into the XTB algorithm where you can get an experience
more like YouTube. And I think we're going to see that. But I do believe judging based on me just
sort of stalking all of the X employees employees that we're going to see a lot
of changes soon and that they're being somewhat quiet. They're probably sharing new features
with investors and things and not yet with us, right? So that's what I'm looking forward to.
So I don't want to get anyone like fired or wake up one day and get like, you know,
catch a bullet in the back of my head when I'm going to Whole Foods But I work out a gym called fitness SF. Fitness SF is located inside Twitter building
It's crazy how that works out so every day I go to work out inside the Twitter building
I work out for all Twitter employees and when you start making friends with these guys who are spotting you they start letting things slip
One thing one guy let slip to me was that they were looking to put
out Reddit. Like Elon hates Reddit. That's his number one. They have like some white
boards in there with the Reddit logo and the Ghostbusters symbol with the thing
between them. And it kind of makes sense when you look at Elon. He's made so much
money that you got to look what's his motivations now to continue his legacy
or to make more money and almost seems like his ideological like motivations is higher
than his financial motivation at this point.
What's Elon's like favorite thing he loves to say?
Woke mind virus, I want to kill the woke mind virus, where the fuck is that living right
now?
Living on Reddit and here in San Francisco the Reddit building is across the street from the Twitter building and it's unmarked and they they're kind of
like Civil War like partners at this point or enemies at this point which
means that I mean Reddit is kind of a I mean it's a message boards base but it is
still text base it is probably the closest to competition that X has and
they went on a whole like campaign to ban X-Links
on reddit like some of the biggest subs have just banned it oh you can't use it
anymore we don't like Elon so all X-Links will be banned so it looks like
that's probably in my mind where Elon's gonna concentrate his efforts like let's
put them out of business first YouTube will be a much more tougher company to conquer
So let's set that second and I kind of feel like that's kind of what grok is doing
Because when you can just ask walk grok question get an answer is the equivalent go into reddit asking a question
And getting an answer only you don't have to deal with all the weird trolls like there are like, you know,
going through your profile stock isn't communities the most like directly comparable thing to red?
And I think that we're going to see, you know, they've said multiple times and they've done
multiple updates to communities, but it does seem like of any feature this sort of like,
hiding in the background, not yet fully prominent, it does seem to be gaining momentum.
Like I noticed people are popping up communities
for specific topics,
and then you can just go to that community
and you scroll through it.
And even if, you know, like a certain poster posts
about a lot of different things,
you can go to their community on a topic
and it's only their posts on that topic.
It's a good way to organize.
And I think that's one
of the things that Reddit does best, right? Like, some days
you come to X, and your feed is overwhelmed with like political
or like something Elon did, or maybe you just don't care, right?
Like maybe you just want to look up what happened on your
favorite TV show, right? Or see what people are saying about
some social event or something like that. And if you could just
go straight to a community and you know that everything in
there, like you just want to look at memes, it's all going to
be memes, right? There's a community that doesn't do
political memes, you can stay out of that. That's what Reddit
does well is like you can go to a specific theme and find
exactly what you want. And you're there is an algorithm, but
it's like it's an algorithm within that theme. I think
communities can fill that role. And will be a good, uh, a lot towards
getting rid of anyone's desire to go to Reddit. I do think a lot of people do go to Reddit
to ask questions too. So you're right about grok to that extent, but I think the like
real nail in Reddit's coffin will be if communities take off. So I don't know if that's another
app to like, it's interesting that they want to be the everything app.
And I like the idea of the everything app,
but maybe it's like the everything network and there's a few different UIs that
you use or a few different apps that you open because it's hard to compete with a
video first platform and a text first platform and a community
based platform and a financial platform platform all with one user interface.
Like you just can't fit that many buttons on the screen. It becomes really difficult to navigate.
A lot of people say like, oh, just add a tab, but like, why not just add a different app instead?
So like when you're looking at video, you just go like straight to the video and that's all it is.
I think maybe there'll be some resistance to doing that, but ultimately I think that's
where the best experience will lie for consumers.
So I hope they go that direction.
I hope we see something like, you know, the X Venmo app, something like the X video app,
you know, and so on.
You know, if there's an X Venmo map, they're going to make a crypto base.
You know, that's something Elon will do as that
is mass adoption I am waiting for.
I don't know if I agree with multiple apps.
I think it's going to be tough to get
that community networking type thing going on.
If you have multiple apps because you
can't really link in each other. What do you think, Alex?
I don't know if I love the idea
of just building multiple apps.
You just bifurcate the entire ecosystem,
people in the different apps.
I don't think that makes much sense.
I also don't know if the Grok
or the XTV app makes much sense.
Like I just, I've never talked to anyone
who regularly spends time on like an Apple TV app
That's just not something normal people do on YouTube
Yeah, but I don't know it's like I just don't think that makes sense
I just don't think that's something that people are gonna do
I don't think people are like, oh, I don't want to watch videos on the X app
But let me go to the X TV app and that's where I'll watch
I I watch almost all my YouTube videos on my on my television
I lay in bed and I open my TVs Apple and they have the YouTube app
I I do think there's a lazy factor there eventually if they get addicted to
X and it's on their TV. They will just turn on their TV while in bed rather than look at their phones
Anyway, um, I just I've just never talked to anyone.
Never mind.
I don't care.
I got a totally different topic I'm going to roll us into here just because it's on
top of my mind.
Sports for a second here.
Alex, your beloved Celtics have been sold officially today.
Largest sale ever for a North American sports team or potentially any sports
team. I'm not 100% sure on that one. Maybe there's some soccer teams that have
gone for more. But what are your thoughts here? Yeah, Celtics got a sold a Bill
Chisholm. Never heard of him in my life, but apparently he could afford to buy a $6 billion team,
so he's got to be rich, which is good. He also claims he's a hardcore Celtics fan,
which is also good. You know what was great about this ownership team was they were the opposite of
the Red Sox. The Red Sox team looks for, ownership team looks for any reason to cut costs, and that's
why the team's been absolute horse shit for 10 years. What's been great about the Celtics ownership is they've been trying
to aggressively spend as much money as humanly possible to win which is what you what you want
from a sports organizations for them to make bad business decisions and so they've been making bad
business decisions which is great. So I hope Bill Chisholm is willing to make bad business decisions in order for us to win. We have like three of the top five most expensive players in
league on the team. So I don't know. I mean obviously I wish they didn't sell and they had
the same ownership who was just burning money every chance they can get. But I don't know.
In Bill Chisholm we trust I guess. He is willing to make bad business decisions, obviously.
I mean, can't you tell by the fact that he bought the Celtics?
Oh, whoa, whoa.
They did though.
They did though.
Shout out to the ownership.
That's a true selling at the potential top.
You know, obviously they could win more, but that's not, I mean, they're, I think they're
showing out for the entire city.
This is what you want to do. You want to win and then get rich?
That's kind of the the theory here Alex
This is what's gonna happen as soon as you know, Elon signs up for creator buddy room private equity sale
That might be it. That might be it. We'll see. I mean, hopefully he loves it so much. He just buys it off me
That would be a thing. I mean, hopefully he loves it so much that he just buys it off me. That would be a thing.
I mean, we're blowing up, Creator Buddy.
We're growing every day.
Every day we get 10 plus new subscribers.
It's getting big.
We might be talking to some people at some big investment companies next week.
I don't know.
We'll see what happens in San Francisco next week.
I might have lined up some meetings while I'm in San Francisco for
the Robin Hood event. I don't know. We'll see. So big things happening for one man AI
businesses out here. CreatorBuddy. We'll see what happens. CreatorBuddy, link in bio, CreatorBuddy.io,
the greatest AI content tool of all time. If you buy it, you will go viral, you will
grow, you'll get rich. If you do not buy it, you will be poor, you'll be broke, you'll never go viral,
your engagement will go down, you'll be shadowbanned, and you won't be able to
afford dinner for your family.
So up to you, creatorbuddy.io, link in bio.
Yeah, this is true because I wrote a thread with CreatorBuddy, well, with the
help of CreatorBuddy, and it got three million impressions, so you will go viral.
I also learned how to use it in a deeper capacity
on our Tech and Tea show this past week.
For those that checked it out,
we did give a little bit of a deep dive.
And while we're talking about Tech and Tea
for a second here, by the way,
the Tech and Tea account is up here on stage.
That is my video show that I do together
with Alex and Penny every single week.
Make sure if you haven't already, give that one a follow.
And we're gonna try something a little bit new today.
Instead, typically we've been recording right afterwards,
but today, right at the top of this space,
we are going to do a live show.
And we're gonna do it live.
We're gonna do it on video.
We're gonna stream it to that Tech and T channel.
So if you're in the space and you want more content
right after this space finishes in 20 minutes,
we're gonna immediately go live on Tech and tea and record a video episode so
follow that account right now that way you don't miss out on the video content
and we can get a little bit deeper into some topics we can screen share we can
keep it funky and fresh so I literally just dropped the toy great and I was
gonna say dude that show was great like Alex you nailed it, man
That was awesome getting to see a walkthrough with creator buddy
like it was better than watching the tutorial videos you have on there because it gave people like a true sense of how people would
Actually use it and yeah, like it was great. He having that hands-on approach
I think that's the sort of thing that's gonna get a lot of people to actually try out the platform just because once you see
It in action, dude, it is pretty stinking powerful.
And I didn't realize how good it was until I signed up for it.
I literally blindly signed up for it because you said it was good.
So I just gave you money.
I don't regret it.
I mean, it's I talked to some big companies yesterday.
We're going to be the main social media tools at some very big popular companies you've heard of very soon.
So things are growing.
Listen, here's the lesson here.
If you put your mind to something and you build it and you believe in it and you put
it out there and you show people it works and you create value, you can do anything
you want in 2025.
I built this completely by myself by myself by myself.
There's no one else doing this. So you get a community behind you, you grow on X, you get a
platform, you get people to listen to you, trust you and you build products that help them. Anything's
possible in 2025 baby. Anything's possible. Woo.
I feel like one of the sayings that I see all over the time I know is you can just do
things.
Is that you guys subscribe to that?
That should be your slogan.
Actually, that's a great slogan.
It's just mundane enough not hit you over the head, but to resonate.
You can just do things.
Put on a shirt.
You can just do things.
2025.
Definitely a fan of doing things.
I mean, if the alternative is not doing
things yeah that sounds boring well speaking of okay penny I'm gonna get into
this a little bit maybe on the pot after but I saw you commented on this and why
why wouldn't I pull politics into this for a second so there was a little
announcement last night going on that Trump that Steve Bannon endorsed him for a third term and there's some rumblings
going on inside there. So you commented you're like not a fan of this even as a big fan of
Trump so I'm just curious your thoughts here. If you start talking third term are you going
to revolt? You're going to be a patriot?
Well look I love what Trump is doing mostly because I feel like we've needed change in America
and there's so many different issues that have need to be confronted and they've just
sort of been ignored or buried.
And you know, if anyone tries to touch them, then they get attacked and they leave it alone
because they just want to get reelected.
And I'm super excited that we're confronting some tough things, but I do not, I am in no
way interested in turning the United States into an
authoritarian dictatorship or anything along those lines. We have always had two term limits. And the
idea that now, because there's a president that I like that we're going to, we're going to change
that to be three or whatever. It seems like a slippery slope. I want nothing to do with it. Aside from that, I mean, look, I love Trump,
but he's already old.
And in three years when this term is over,
he's gonna be even older.
And then do I wanna start a four year term after that?
So like we're seeing seven year older Trump
than he is now.
No, I'm not the least bit interested in that.
Like I think it's a foolish idea
to try to change the underpinnings of American democracy right in the middle of someone's term
so that they can run again. If we were ever going to do something, if we had a logical reason why
three terms was better than two, my sense is that it should be like go forward only and whoever's in
office now you can't do it like we have to go through at least one new election before that
happens. It just seems like we don't need to increase power to the presidency. Although
my one caveat to that is there does seem to be a lot of pushback from the judiciary and that's been causing some problems, you know, executing on Trump's
agenda, doing things that I think that people want.
So, uh, go ahead, diligent.
Why don't you follow up on that?
Yeah, I had to chime in on that.
So, so the third term, uh, the third term thing, let's just cap that is, uh,
The third term thing, let's just cap.
That is individuals within the Republican Party trying to promote the idea that Trump is a dictator.
That's all that is.
And there are people in the mainstream media, legacy media, who love to propagate that.
And if you have a couple of uniparty Republicans spouting the ideas it lends credibility
to it right and so but there's no way no way ever that Trump is gonna serve a
third term it's just cap yeah yeah have you have you not like you can like I'm
not a huge fan of Bannon he's okay like in certain some regards, but he also says a lot of outlandish crap, right?
he's a he's a podcast host his job is literally to get people riled up and to
Stoke the masses, right?
That's literally what he does and if you if you ever they call it war room Steve Bannon's war room for a reason, uh, because they, they thrive on controversy and stuff like that.
So again, uh, even though Steve Bannon, you know, he's highly successful.
He does a lot of good things.
Uh, just because somebody is popular and successful, doesn't mean that
they're right all of the time.
That's cat.
I like it.
There's rumors that Biden's gearing up for another presidential run in 2028. What do you think about that? the AOC if it is if it's anybody it'd be AOC. It'll be AOC and Gavin Newsom. Yeah, Gavin Newsom has already has oh he's priming
He's priming, you know all of those podcasts he's doing with Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon and all these figures that is
That is a shadow campaign. He is priming to run for president and better believe it
Whatever powers back him, whatever evil
machinations back him in California, uh, California has the highest, uh, GDP
in the country and it's by, it's, it's a good margin that they're the highest
front by so, so like, regardless of how unpopular his policies is, he has the,
the money to really kind of turn out voters.
And he also has the charm, right?
Like he is, he is like a, a sneaky snake, man.
So that's something that we're going to have to watch out for.
He's a liberal that talks like a conservative.
Yep.
But, but in, and that's why he's talking to conservatives
because he's trying to rebrand.
You saw him change his position on transgenders and playing in sports.
They, he literally signed legislation to allow kids to be mutilated.
You know what I mean?
This is the same governor that was okay with kids chopping off their, uh, their
equipment.
Well, here is the thing about Gavin Newsom.
If, if someone who's lived in California for 14 years and does not like the man, mind you, he played sports in college, he was a baseball player, etc.
You can't tell me that that man actually believes in the shit he signed. The reason he signed all that far left liberal nonsense that completely destroyed my city is when I look out my window right now I just see homeless people shitting in the street because they kept them in office. the the pain. He probably is like a right leaning figure. So he, uh, he's a Joe Biden, bro. That's not a right leaning figure. He's just
somebody that can be bought. He doesn't have any stationary positions. He doesn't have a, a static, uh, a static worldview,
right? It's his world view is done.
Joe Biden, Joe Biden would have never changed his position. He died on that hill, hill which is Biden completely changed his position he used to be pro segregation and then he was the opposite of that
He used to be against abortions then he was opposite opposite of that again
He changed his position based on it monetary and and power incentive and in gavin newsome's that but much much much worse much worse
Yeah, i'll agree with you on that. He's definitely much worse. Like I said, he's he's destroyed my city, man
All right. All right. I think there's an interesting piece there. That was those curious
So we got from Trump third term to Gavin Newsom
Destroying the world but I'll take it. All right, just your average citizen. What's on your mind?
Welcome to X baby. Welcome to X. That's how it works around here
You talk about anything you will soon get close to how Gavin Newsom is gonna destroy the world the you're talking about. Oh, I will. Shut up. No matter. Oh,
my god. No matter what you're
talking about, you're three
degrees away from talking about
Gavin Newsom destroying the
world. It's called the three
degrees of Gavin Newsom World
Destruction. Now, everyone can
start jumping in and
interrupting everyone so you can
get three extra followers. I
was California. You're judging
Touch your mouth Adam. I was California treating you by the way. That's what I was gonna ask you
you. Shut your mouth, Adam. I
was California treating you by
the way. That's what I was gonna
So far so good. I love it here. It's been 60 degrees and sunny every day all winter long, which is amazing
ask you. Uh so far so good. I
I've been able to get sun every single day in New York City, man
Like you just you just don't get sun for like you should update your you should update your PFP. So you don't look so pasty
If I updated my PFP with what I look now, I would look even pastier.
In that picture, it was mid-July, I was at maximum tan level.
Watch any of our Tech in Tea podcasts, you'll see.
No, I saw, I saw.
Yeah, you're right.
I need to spend, yeah, maybe wait a couple of months to get some more vitamin D, vitamin
E, whatever.
Bro, I don't even remember what winter feels like, if I'm being honest. It's literally, I'm looking out at the ocean right now. the I saw a place come up for sale over there a couple of days ago.
I was like, God, do I do it?
It was really cheap to Alex, bro.
I sold my company.
You sold your company, sold my company.
So like, I don't know.
I see what's happening on X.
So I just wanted to join in this.
Like my company was failing.
I was dying.
My company used to be a million dollar business
and then I got canceled on the fucking social medias
because I was against the COVID shots
and do your own research.
Who canceled you?
Canceled me.
Like my Snapchat and my Instagram brought in my business
anywhere from 40 to $60,000 a month
because of my persona and all that shit.
So I joined X after Elon Musk said he was
buying it and it was confirmed, but I haven't gained nothing on here. So it like tanked
my fucking company, tanked it. So I found some buyers. We've been in negotiations for
like the last year, two years, and we just closed last Friday. And my business used to
be worth like half a million, maybe a million dollars in 2019,
half a million dollars in 2022. And I just sold it for bottom dollar, but I got the fuck out
like just in time. And so now I'm trying to do like different ventures. I'm 37 years old,
and I'm trying to get into the service industry working as a fucking lineman. And come to find
out it's the hardest fucking blue collar job to get into in the country because it's so competitive
highest pay best security for your future with pensions and a whole bunch
of other cool shit so like no matter what you're going through like my wife
is she's super fucking positive and it's kind of crazy like how everything
played out I'm really
negative in my head about myself. I beat myself up like Mike Jones beats up fucking, I don't
know some fucking 20 year old.
Don't worry buddy I have a solution for you if you're looking for a new avenue of revenue
you might as well become a creator on X and it just so happens that we have Alex Finn
up here who has creator buddy the best AI tool to help you in your
endeavors.
Well, I'm not worried about that because I'm getting a blue cube.
Like I've been wanting one for a couple of years and they're making me an ambassador.
So I'll be doing my fucking morning cold plunges here in a couple of months and I'll be streaming
it on X and then jump into my sauna.
There's not enough like real people to exercise and take
care of themselves. And that's something that I'm really big on. So I'm just going to try
and get back into that now that I'm like done with the whole sale of my company.
So you think you're going to like build a content platform based on cold plunging and
saunas? Is that what I'm understanding here?
Typing cold plunge in the search bar. There's like 30 videos.
What is there a lot or a few and like what's the mean?
I don't know. Look at YouTube. How many hours of YouTube is there? There's more hours on
YouTube than there are stars in the known universe. So it's, I mean, it's just curious
to me that people would be seeking out content on like watching people live stream cold plunges I'm not saying it's not just that like so when when I was doing
it in my trough in my backyard people like my voice people say I'm soothing they say
a bunch of gay shit but I also explain things really well and people said when they see
me in the cold plunge and I'm talking
through the whole process, like, I don't know, it's weird. The shift. I don't know, man.
People like to fucking listen to me talk and watch me half naked. So whatever. But that's
what I'm going to do for me. And if X wants to pay me money to do what I'm doing and Blue
Cube wants to pay me money to have direct people to go buy the who's paying you blue chew yeah I'm gonna be one of their ambassadors
the what the dick company no no no said blue chew the whole time like the viagra company
this dick pill is so good
and code plunging at 34
man you stay rock hard baby
that's how good it is
that'd be a good plug
blue cube
blue cube?
yeah the baddest of the bad
so I'm getting the C2 with the jet mode
so it's gonna like destroy my thermal barrier and just make me cool
That sounds too much like blue chill they should they I think they did that on purpose, bro
That way you know what I mean? I think they did that on purpose
They made it sound similar on purpose that way it gets more attention, but it actually comes serious question
No, like how many different ways are there? It's a cold plunge for you to talk people through it
I don't know. You'll just have to keep posted and I'll be posting it up here once I, it's a cold plunge, for you to talk people through it? I don't know.
You'll just have to keep posting.
I'll be posting it up here once I get it in a couple months.
It doesn't really seem like a very high demand niche.
I think that's what we're all trying to...
I'm not doing it for X.
My goal is to become a lineman and make $150,000 a year being a man climbing poles and helping
you guys keep your powers.
So we can keep having these kinds of discussions
and keep the internet here.
And the reason I chose that is because World War III
is inevitably around the corner.
Our generals say it's gonna happen at the latest 2045
when we'll quote unquote be ready
to take on the Chinese fleet.
So I mean, there's there's an endgame.
Well, we will all we will all feel much better knowing that the polls are in your
hands when we get into World War Three, sir.
Well, my point is AI is not going to take that fucking job. And all of us need to
be thinking about what the fuck are we going to do? Like, if you're not making
what makes you think AI is not going to take that job because like I picture optimist
robot or like one of those unitry dancing kung fu robots climbing up those poles so fast you don't
even know what's happening right they're like up there doing dances on the top of the pole
you know like that's what I picture well there's there's like a fun way to look at it
but then when when you look at the United States infrastructure, so you have
the internet, which is consumer, and then you have the, um, uh, the.
Intro web.
Fuck.
Is that what it's called?
I forget, but your goal is to you sold your company so that you can work your
way up to working, like doing doing the most like some of the hardest
Manual labor there is for what is now like kind of a lower median income job
I'm basically Swiss failing and I've been in retail for like 20 fucking years. I'm so and it's all gonna be taken by AI
I've been saying it like
my podcast So and it's all gonna be taken by AI. I've been saying it like my pod
Even here taking jobs yet and people are already this is what I warned you about bro
You got a plan ahead growing you you got a plan ahead owning my own business for ten years, dude
I look far into the future and it's shit that I've always done since I was a kid is like critically think but like
That's a super artificial intelligence is gonna to be here in less than 10 years.
It's not that far fetched.
It's really not like, dude, like there's 80% of humans working are going to get
replaced. Like look at automation and then look at automated farms.
What in the seventies are farms went from 99% inside everyone's backyard to 1%
of the people's backyards producing fucking produce
Like it's crazy. The whole egg industry is owned by fucking crazy big-ass giant chicken farm
People and then all of our pork is owned by the Chinese. So I mean, it's just
the Thank you Wolf for hosting this Alex. I know you guys are all legends. Good luck on your new podcast
I always comment and like it when I breastfeed it and I will see you guys later
Thank You diligent speaking of by the way
Shout out to this panel. This is like
Gosh, I'm trying to remember what the meme is, but this is just like if you took
is, but this is just like if you took all the thoughts that...
The 2024 Boston Celtics.
No, this is if you took all those thoughts that people...
All the things like...
I don't know about you guys.
Sometimes I walk around and I'm like, God bless people.
They can't read my thoughts.
They just think I was fucking insane.
This space sometimes feels like people are just sharing those thoughts just out into
the public and we just have a forum around all the things that maybe should have stayed in our heads
But you know, it's best that they come out for our health
It's kind of wild
So can I just really tell overall 200 people that are in here guys?
If you want to go do manual labor that by all means do so but for the most of us
I love manual labor and I like doing it as a hobby. So this weekend I went out to a friend's house,
I built cabinets and installed a kitchen for him, for free,
because I love the guy,
because I love spending time with people,
not because I have to do manual labor.
That's the ultimate thing.
Like there are plenty of ways for you
to provide for yourself.
Creator Buddy has the perfect example of that.
But you don't have to do things.
Like the goal for most of us is to be free,
is to join these spaces, to talk about, you know, this X crew because we love the
people here, not because we have to show up.
So Gav, appreciate the opportunity.
Well, yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
I'm also doing it because like, I'm about to have a daughter with my wife.
She's doing July and I want my daughter to be like engineer or somebody that's going to help SpaceX or Planetary Resources
traverse our solar system to better humanity. The reason I sold the company, one, it's failing. Two,
I'm fucking burnt the fuck out of retail, so I'm not getting into sales. And then three, so my wife
and I can do homeschooling with other friends friends that have the same mindset we want to do like an ad astro type
school because we're not in Texas so we can't attend that shit and um Idaho is really cool with
homeschooling they allow it and then we can also request budget or some shit I don't know it's some
new legislation that got pushed through so I don't know too much about it
But at the end of the day, I want to be an example like
Yeah, we we do gotta we do gotta run penny. Oh, okay. He's in he's in he's in. All right. Perfect. Okay
All right, I appreciate everybody. Can I end it with this Trump's not gonna do a third term?
He's all about the Constitution anyone that gaslights that's fucking doing it for clickbait or the fuck
Anyone that gaslights that's fucking doing it for clickbait or the fuck
Trump 2032 baby, let's fucking go
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