Thursday Talks

Recorded: March 16, 2023 Duration: 0:52:10

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All right, GMGM everyone. Polaris and Donnie, can you join me on stage to speak? I've sent you a speaker invite.
Cool. Good to have you up here, Polaris. Donnie.
GM GM how you doing Humpty
Oh surviving, you know. How about you? All good. Did you manage to sort the situation out?
For the most part, I guess, there's still a bit of cleanup that I gotta do. But yeah, for the most part, I was able to get a result. Thanks for asking. Well done, man. I can only imagine the headache. But.
One of those ones is an unexpected events of life apart from that everything is okay Yeah, things are good, you know moving a lot of fun stuff forward Yeah, excited to hear how are the
things on your end.
Completely differently. I think the exponential growth which we've been talking about over the last couple of years, seeing that in real time happening is fascinating.
Yeah. Well, I think, you know, I think GPT for like everything else is just a tool, right? So it's the matter of how well we use that. I think that
There's going to be some interesting, maybe novel applications of it in the web three space. I know personally I'm exploring some of that. Because I'm very excited of like what I saw with GPT 3. I expect a lot from
There's also kind of the release of mid-Jerney 5. So I think that there's just a lot of interesting things happening in the space of AI and LLM. So yeah, certainly very excited.
to see how that continues to develop. But also to see how people take on some of these kind of new ideas in new directions or old ideas in new directions.
Yeah, I mean essentially what GPT 4 is doing is as you said, it's just a tool at the end of the day isn't it?
It's how you utilize that all the information which GPT 4 is synthesizing today. All right now that information is being there all this time. But the fact that that
information is being
made into knowledge and wisdom by this neural engine which is synthesizing all that knowledge in one go. But that knowledge hasn't been created like in terms of from thin air, it's always been there.
Now we have the ability to do the same thing which a calculator could do beforehand, you know, in terms of algorithmic calculations compared to you doing it manually. And the same thing is happening now that we've got this
a mulgommation of knowledge, information and data. And it can be like, you know, synthesized in a matter of seconds using neural engines. But my question is that like, you know, in terms of Web 3, how do you
use that knowledge or that availability of this tool moving forward because that would be really interesting how the whole because if the neural engines are that powerful that they can connect all that wisdom and be able to
to synthesize that and come up with something which makes sense. And if they're that powerful, that they can use a lot of computing power and
harness that computing power and pinpoint it towards one direction. So if that is the case, then this also means that there is enough computing power or neural engine power to be able to
unlock or crack your password as well, especially simple passwords and stuff. Because now the neural engine can tell the sentiment of a discussion before that discussion, like, you know, for completes itself, it can tell the sentiment from
one sentence. So if it can't tell a sentiment, it should be able to like guess passwords and be able to like, you know, and then create vulnerabilities at the same time as well, which is which eventually like, you know, makes us push the rhetoric of
security.
and being able to like you know, quantum proof ourselves because this is like quantum proofing ourselves. Neural engine is quantum computing at the end of the day or it's like borderline quantum computing which will only get stronger.
If the neural engine has the capacity to comment, ridicule itself and then improve itself, then why can't it improve its processing speeds and stuff?
Yeah, you know, I want to touch on something that you said because it's certainly one of the things that I think about, I guess enough.
And that is this idea about information already existing and new tools being able to tap into kind of that same information, but
in much more accelerated ways, maybe a bit more applicable in terms of any particular use case, much narrower, much more specialized, and certainly.
much more impactful to a certain segment of the population. And this is something that I learned while ago and that is a Native American saying that we are born known everything.
And that it is just a matter of us recollecting or remembering to be able to unlock those memories. So when we learn thing, we're actually just remembering things. To me, that's a really powerful.
idea because it just really, to me, speaks to accessibility of knowledge. If it is true that we are born knowing everything, then it's
really more of a matter of having the right guides to unlock certain pathways so that we can remember things that are important and useful to us in our in our journey. And I think
You know, with the web being several years old, decades, even, and the amount of data just accelerating in the space.
traditional web2 space. These new tools are just the guy that allows us to unlock the existing memories or existing, yeah, existing memory
in a way that are useful and probably would be considered novel at this point. And so I think that it's really a matter of like finding
Alright, yeah, finding people who are capable of understanding things, probably a bit more philosophically and utilizing tools to be able to generate
like new experiences. That's kind of my thoughts on that. And I know that that doesn't address some of one of the last things you said here, but certainly I wanted to kind of just riff on that for a little bit if you had something to add
And then know that you also think maybe I would consider even a bit more spiritually because of the work that you do at martial arts. I wonder what you think about like the parallels between unlocking
things that we know through or things that we already are born knowing and you know through the journey of life and unlocking new experiences and the technology space using new tools.
That's a very interesting question, Amtee.
It's very interesting because I believe that, like, and also scientifically it's proven as well, that the double helix, the DNA which you carry, the double helix genetic code, the strand itself, it itself
can store a lot of information in just one, there's 21 of those nodes, I'm not sure what it's called, I do know what it's called but I can't remember it. But in one of those
Those connectors you can save up to 60 gigabytes of information I was reading about five, six years ago. So there are as far as like martial arts from so
So from teaching martial arts now and being a student for 34 years, what I've realized is that like, you know, so many skills, well, they're like from a teacher's perspective.
you will always unlock traits in your students which you didn't even know that they could unlock after you give them the knowledge. So each student tends to react differently and it's always like they always will have a uniqueness to that also.
I've noticed that every time I placed students in certain situations, like pressurizing situations, even if they didn't know that they could unlock themselves, but after giving them the right set of tools,
you know, they end up unlocking themselves in those pressurizing situations where they didn't even think that they could. So I think that's what you was trying to ask me in terms of like from a martial arts perspective, like, you know, that
when you are subjected to certain types of tooling or support system
or nurturing system of nurturing.
then what it tends to do is it tends to unlock certain traits.
which would not get unlocked unless you subject yourself to a certain condition. So that could be a very interesting discussion going forward because
I have noticed as a teacher that students all of us tend to have certain base properties and some of these properties which are found in common between every single person I've taught is that, you know,
They've got like those basic human traits the ability to like you know be able to to be aware of your surroundings to be able to such different variations in the in the surroundings to be able to react to be able to breathe deeply
All of these things are like, you know, based traits, but they're not found in every single one, you know, you have to unlock them by subjecting yourself to. So how does that correlate towards Web 3 from this question? Well, I would think it's the same thing really, martial arts, Web 3, business,
It's a way of doing things, it's a way of life really. So if chat GPT or GPT4 tends to like give us this support, this nurturing, you know, where we think that like, you know, we've got control of the knowledge and now
we can siphon through that knowledge because before it was like information overload from the internet. Now at least we can get citations done, we can get like the correct information. We might be able to bring a different side of us, you know, which probably we didn't know existed.
And it could work, it could be like a double-edged sword though, because as I mentioned earlier, like, you know, the same thing which is used to empower us can be used
you know, it's a tool at the end of the day. So it could be used to like, you know, pick up the someone who's not educated, for example, if you've got chat GPT there, which is that sharp, that it can sus out sentiment, you tell me it won't be able to sus out what
level of education or what knowledge you're carrying, you know, a point will come, it would be able to do that. And then straight away, you know, it would be able to create a profile of which individual is more vulnerable than the other. And then it can
target the hacking capacity towards unlocking, you know, all of these things can be dangerous as well. So it's important for us to be mindful of that. I hope that answers your question from TN. Yes, bro, go for it.
Yeah, I mean look, I don't think there's a right answer right now right now we're riffing on this very philosophical conversation about parallels between I guess discovery through life and
And you know, emergent technology providing us new visibility into existing, you know, I guess data, if you will, through the perspective of new experiences.
One thing you said that I really appreciated and want to think a little bit more about is this idea of like having a guide, right, in the kind of this martial art sense. There's someone who provides you with the tools to
understand the mental, physical, spiritual kind of things that you need to have control over, or at least some control over, so that you can
can maximize the benefits of it all, right? I think for me, I would draw parallel between that and saying you need to have good community leaders. You need to have really good
I guess philosophers, social thinkers in these spaces where novel technologies being developed so that we could have a better way of interacting with that, you know, and buildings, excuse me, that technology.
reading about that. 100%. I mean, you got to remember like, if you look at the basis of society going back towards the Greek civilization, you know, and if you read what Plato or
Alexander's teacher, which one was it? There's been about four or five of them to be quite honest, can't remember. But the Greek philosophers were the first ones to like, you know, not the first ones. I mean, philosophy is being there before the beginning of time, you know, Tao is
all of them have been speaking about wisdom. What I'm saying is that philosophy and looking at issues from the birds
view from a bigger perspective, from a holistic as in like a totalistic perspective is very important, you know, because it kind of like guides us towards a directional
understanding towards how to treat that issue. So, I can't remember the name of Alexander's teacher. Oh my God. Was it Archimedes?
Aristotle. Sorry guys. And all of them have been talking about these concepts, you know, these crazy concepts of those at that time. But these concepts, even
eventually built the basis of society and that basis of society eventually led us to judging human beings under certain moral encompasses based around
those philosophical catharsis if that makes any sense right and then the Renaissance came and it was based around those concepts in art in perpetual art and the way you
human civilization looked at things changed. We started looking at art in a different perspective. We started looking at our theology, our history, from completely different angles. We're going through the same shift again and four
for what society is at the moment, for where humanity is at the moment, for us to have some sort of assistance like that. In a positive construct was very much needed because I've discussed this before, like just if you look into the design efficiency of things, you know,
On one side we are like absolutely destroying the planet because our efficiency as a species has got wrong benchmarking systems in terms of like for example businesses will look into profitability more than their corporate social responsibility.
like, you know, freight logistics, design efficiency, you know, if they're getting a product made out of some five dollars and if they don't care, like, you know, if it's going to create like a big, huge carbon footprint or not, as long as it's been mitigated by the money, you know, they'll still sell the product for $10. What I'm trying to
say is that this technology can help us integrate better. It can help us integrate better. It can help us understand things which we couldn't understand before, like again going back to
words, my professional approach. There's a lot of Latin words in medicine, for example, when you're using it. There's a lot of Latin words when it comes to illnesses and as a result, when someone mentions that Latin word, even when it comes to
parts of the body. There's a lot of Latin words when it comes to explaining them. It creates a disparity between the user and the person and the knowledge and the person who's delivering that knowledge. Having programmed
or tools which can help us understand low, understand freight logistics, understand blockchain, understand DID, in a better way, DeFi, in a better way, in a much more user-friendly way, like the way of
flat screen, flat screen phone came, touch screen phone came before black after blackberry and before blackberry, they're not here. So I think this is like a huge step forward towards user interface in terms of delivery in terms of
like usability in terms of ease to onboard, not because you're going to become a millionaire, but because this is the safest approach. And now you've got artificial intelligence there which can guide you step by step
to secure yourself, you don't need to scour thousands of Reddit profiles and stuff to find out the correct information. You know from that level moving forward, I think it will be great but again it totally depends on how we use
this technology and it also totally depends on how we festered these philosophical conversations. You know, in these spaces where it's hard, you know, we don't end up having these conversations, but I believe it's a backbone because
a year ago this stuff which we was talking about it's happening right now so we couldn't have been like you know, cutar sizing about something which was completely you know non-existent so it was us philosophers who envisioned it and now the duels are doing it and so all part of the society how it happens
Yeah, I think it's interesting to think about a balance of personalities, skills,
I think sometimes in the space of Web 3, and I think this is this was probably more true before than this now. I think something's have changed in terms of our perspective of value.
The glamour, we glamourize developers for their ability to take an idea and execute and deliver an experience that's tangible.
And because of that, I think that at least in this latest cycle, and I'll start from like DeFi summer through, you know, the end of this previous cycle, right? Where, and what I mean by cycle for anybody who's listening, it's just where money was flowing more freely, both because of
you know, inflated valuations of tokens or speculative assessments of value based on what any given project person was building. To me, is what a bull cycle is.
Some of it is driven by real value, but a lot of it, you know, you can just, you don't have to look too far to see what that means like NFT projects, like I think a lot of them were overvalued, but that's not what I'm trying to say here, just saying that for context. In the previous cycle, starting with Deep by Summer, this idea,
developers as kind of the kings or king makers in this space, what skewed the perspective of value because they were able to, like again, build things quite easily and people were able to use and interact with these platforms.
But because of that too, because it was very limited, you know, kind of visibility into how we can create things of value long term, it suffered from very limited, you know, kind of usable.
ability to, for people that will probably unlike them, right? And also, in some other ways, even Dow's, for instance, suffered of some very poor structures that subjugated many times.
people who were usually not often represented, to underrepresented, because the people that were building these things didn't look like them, right? And so I think the same thing can happen if we consider
you know the rise of AI and large language model systems is if it's influenced by the many then it will have very limited applications to the view and I would say the many in a very niche space
is usually a bit skewed as well. But for this purpose, just saying that it will either not represent or provide any utility to anybody who is underrepresented. So this idea of philosophers and sociologists in the space of Web 3,
being as valuable if not maybe more valuable than a developer in my opinion it has been a long time coming and it's something that's certainly I'm very excited about. I have a lot of opinions not saying that I am an expert but I would love to see more people
from diverse backgrounds and with skilled backgrounds too, to be able to contribute in how we can create a thriving ecosystem for more than just a few people. Donnie, I see your-- on stage, any thoughts on that? And I see also your emoji reacting a lot.
I'm here sorry I was plugging my phone in. What's up y'all? I don't see him on stage in OMD. You don't see me? Can you hear me? I hear Donnie and I see Donnie. Can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. Can you hear me? Right, so look.
Let me just go off and on again. Okay. Yeah. I was just gonna say that I've been listening in for the last five, 10 minutes now, something like that. So I think I have a pretty good grip on where this is going. And I totally agree with the
Like people have been talking about how developers not talking about it. The focus has been on who's able to build and how they're able to build. Not about who's able to provide philosophical insight regarding use case infrastructure and I don't know community, et cetera, et cetera. Millions of other things that can happen just like
In order to build a building, you need construction workers, but you can't just have construction workers. You need to have everybody else involved in that. Project managers and architects and businesses, they're going to fill up the building. Dig that. With regards to NFT projects being overvalued, for sure.
They are valued at whatever people are willing to pay, but they won't always be willing to pay that thing. Most, if not many cases, there isn't really a product. But the same could be said for buying a sports jersey. People continue to do that, so they're not even limited.
frankly, people still overpay for sports jersey. So it's tugging at people's heartstrings in a really tribal way that I don't think the internet has seen at this volume before, you know, where it can really like, you can identify as something internet based instead of just identifying as you on the internet.
It's an interesting set of concepts. Yeah. So anything else you wanted to add on here, anything you wanted to spur forward, it doesn't have to be directly correlated to this latest thing. But I think the overarching
theme or topic is emergent technologies and their applications into Web 3, then we got into a bit of a philosophical conversation. I am the thing that's at the forefront of my mind right now is that
As far as NFTs and cultural movements in in web3 go it seems to me that Salana and Ethereum NFTs are stored off-chain. They're mutable. I guess those are not anonymous. Anyway, they're stored off-chain and the blockchain is a ledger of where these things are but they don't really live there on the ledger and with the dawn
of ordinals and inscriptions on satosis, everything is on chain and recently I've been thinking a lot about why that's important or why it's bad or why it's good or you know whatever subjective judgments we want to make about it and it seems to me that if the cave drawings of 15,000 years ago are still around and we see people drawing like I don't know
And then the pyramids are built and people draw things on the inside of those pyramids. And again, it's like anthropomorphized, you know, animal.
people and food and sex all over again and if you look at the first 10,000 inscriptions on the Bitcoin ledger that's what it is it's Pepe's and Smoking joints and cultural commentary about Yada Yada Yada and I think this is our generations pyramids I think that Bitcoin is the pyramid
where the pyramids and let's say blockchain tech is the pyramids in Bitcoin is the great pyramid at Giza and the inscriptions that we're scribbling onto these monies are the drawings on the inside of that pyramid. So I think this is going to be much more culturally relevant than we think down the line when
You know, like the FAS4 at 100 years, which blockchain do you really think if you had to pick one is still going to be running? In my mind, it's Bitcoin. I'm not like a Bitcoin Maxi. I wouldn't call myself that. But the more I think about this, the more I think that applicability wise, this has staying power because it doesn't have any other function than to exist. And it is the most turbulent
you want one to run and requires the most resources. And that's because it's nuclear hardened bulletproof insanity. It's a virus that you can't get rid of. So I'm really excited to see how people interpret this and whether or not they know they're partaking in something that could be so culturally significant and whether or not it would be ruined if they
knew. If people started to understand the potential weight of it, would it like when people were building pyramids and writing things inside of it? I don't know if they were really thinking about like two to five to ten thousand years later what we would be thinking about that because it looks like people with elongated heads and UFOs and bird people and
reptiles but like that isn't that just a pepe? It's all the same thing we're all just doing the same shit we've been doing. So like I like we like to fantasize about this stuff as if it's something that's never gonna happen again but I think it's happening right now and that's my that's my take on the current state of you with three culturally.
So I'm gonna add something to that. I'm sorry for not meeting myself. I just realized that I was I needed this whole time. So people were offended by that. So sorry. I need the room feel live to be honest. Okay. Yeah. Let's let's keep it feeling like we're all in the same living room. So
I wanted to add to what you're just talking about right now is E and S domains. I am a huge fan of that project. And the reason why I'm a huge fan of that project is because
of the idea that EMS domains are like a, and I've used this analogy before, and I've talked to EMS about this before, and they were big fans of it and even said, "I think we need to consider that as a narrative."
for why you should have your ENS. And it's this idea that my ENS is my time capsule where everything that I do in this very early form of
the future internet through Web 3 is being recorded through my Web 3 identity. Let's call it EMS being a Web 3 identity.
And in, and I, and by the way, I registered mine for 100 years. This was like, I don't know, three years ago, two years ago. So it's all I've still got a long way to go before that EMS expired.
that in the future.
My grandkids can look and and all of this technology has become you know just the way things are and probably several evolutions
or iterations from it. I would hope that my kids are able to say, oh, like, let's look at what Granddad was doing during this early time of the internet.
so that they can have some sort of artifacts of my life even when I'm long gone. So this idea of inscriptions and pyramids and everything you were talking about just reminded me of that because, you know, I think
Pyramids are time capsules and the inscriptions are the artifacts and of course all the other things that were that were in those pyramids were the artifacts that allow us to get visibility into a different time and culture.
I think that's where we're at right now in terms of how early we are in some of the technology that's available to us that we're basically creating this new era and there are
opportunities to record our own message to the future using blockchain technology and NFTs to your point would be, you know, the drawings on the wall. So it's really interesting to think about it that way.
I've been, I kind of went on a tear as soon as we left East Denver. After I saw Frank give a bunch of talks and he was wearing an Ordinals hat and my friends were telling me about Ordinals and you guys were telling me about Ordinals and then I got home and talked to my friend who was like very early into it and found out that you didn't have to run a node any longer and
as I possibly can into it so that I have, you know, I feel like I have enough of a fundamental understanding that I could confidently make an investment somewhere in it. And I think at this point it's a lot easier to do that because it's so inscription number based. If it was done early, it's more important. Things can be important.
important if they're not done early, but if it was done early, it doesn't matter what it was, it's important. And I think that watching those first few cave wall inscriptions on the Bitcoin ledger, it's just enthralling to see what people come up with. And the garbage is beginning to be spewed forth. It's no longer a funny inside joke. It's becoming an outside joke, which
is again cool to watch because 10,000 PFP collections are being launched on Bitcoin, which this is actually the first time anything's ever been truly onable because it's fully on chain. That being said, wallet technology is a little bit scary at the moment. Ledger can't be used at all, so that's like, ugh.
I'm going to get drained. I'm going to lose something. I'm sure at some point. But in the meantime, I'm comfortable just knowing that I'm partaking in something that I find so historically significant, that I don't even care if it comes out to be financially exciting. It's just something I like as a human being, I'm inclined to collect these artifacts.
And I think I'm good for a while because I've got quite a pile of them. But I don't know, man. I've not heard anybody else say anything like this about it. I don't know if anybody else is looking at it, who's involved in it, that is, from that 50,000 foot perspective, the one where it would like-- this is like an historically significant thing.
I'm excited to see where that goes. And it doesn't mean that I'm like abandoning every other concept. It's just that I know fully realize that the other platforms that we use are software and that this one is not software. It is a different thing. It's a totally different category. And frankly, it doesn't matter if inscriptions end up clogging Bitcoin to the point
it runs basically unusable because it doesn't really need to be usable. It's a store of value. You can use the lightning network if you want to use Bitcoin for something other than storage, property, whatever the heck it's going to be. I'm excited to partake in whatever is coming with that over the course of time.
I need to go down the ordinal's rabbit hole and I need to go down the chart GPD 4 rabbit hole.
I haven't had the chance and I'm trying to get some time out because I know that it's a very important time is literally money in this industry. By yet, GPT Force has just been mind blowing, man.
It's crazy and the way I can see things like being facilitated in the future. But I totally get it. This concept of like, you know that even if you've got a dirt basically, you've inscribed a dirt, but then you just want to pay for that sat.
And then you just give that dut dut dwee while paying for using BTC. That is a new concept and like you know that you're inscribing over cash rather than the way Ethereum works and
If anything, it's fascinating how you can start inscribing because there's like
How many cetoshis are there in one bit? There are millions of cetoshis or more than a million.
I kept talking and I was muted. You're going to get one way or the other. I could get to mute or I could get to unmute. Looks like Donnie fell out. Let's bring him back up. This idea too of longevity.
in the space of Web 3, which technology will outlast the other. I don't know, that's also very interesting to me because I am a believer in a multi-chain future. I just don't think that there's
one blockchain that will fix all. Part of the reason why I am optimistic is that there are non-onsane, native primitives that are becoming more prevalent, more recognized,
for what they're able to do without necessarily needing to operate on chain, but also allows for multi chain experiences to be more seamless than obviously I'm talking about DID, but I think that there's a ton of
development happening with other non blockchain, you know, native technology that allows for us to bridge our identities and create unified experiences across multiple blockchain. So I think that in the future,
We're going to see without necessarily having to plug in the way that we do today to a blockchain using a Web to Wallet, the ability to plug into all
these blockings that are operating different types of experiences to basically enable a multi-game experience for people
without necessarily even seeing that it's Bitcoin or Ethereum or ontology or whatever. So I think if he's never taught me anything is that abstraction is one of the keys that we are sorely missing, but people are thinking a lot about
So I really think that as we continue to improve with abstraction of accounts and experiences overall, we're going to have a much richer, seamless use
are friendly, you know, ecosystem on which we can onboard most people, not just us who are kind of the early adopters. I didn't mean to say that I think Bitcoin is the only chain that matters and none of them other ones do. I guess I
I should put it in my bio at this point because it seems to be the way that I'm talking. But I still raise up their buddy. You know, that's funny that there are a whole bunch of whatever story for a different time. I think that by doing that thought experiment fast-forward
100,000 to million years in the future, which is more likely to be still in existence in my brain at Bitcoin, but it doesn't mean that that, like even if Ethereum dies for some reason, it doesn't mean something else won't replace it. And it also doesn't matter that it'll matter what replaces it because you're right, things like near protocol and Internet
computer are making basically operating systems to sit on top of all the layer ones such that it doesn't really matter which layer one it is. So I'm 100% in agreement with you on that. It shouldn't necessarily matter or maybe it is best to see a world where it matters less which team you're operating.
Lars you've been quiet for a little bit. Do you want to add anything? We have just a few minutes here to go. I was talking all the way, you know, and I've just realized that's why I have to pull off and come back again because it seemed like you guys didn't hear anything which I said.
I'm sorry to hear, man. Well, we hear you. Why are you a lot in clear now? We did. Yes, it is a hundred million sats per Bitcoin. Sorry. I had to jump out and back in again as well. Just Twitter was on your mad on me. 100 million sats per Bitcoin. Yes, that's a lot of information you can inscribe.
100 million and as far as like integrity of different blockchanges is concerned, I mean, you know, I always look at it like that, that, you know, all of them serve a purpose like all of us are unique as far as our fingerprints are concerned.
But yet we are all one as well at the same time. So there's an element of duality with all of us. There's a value which every single one of us can bring onto the table. And I think the same
singularity kind of like happens with the blockchains as well. Each of them have got their own like you know purpose where ease of use, proof of work, proof of stake, consensus mechanisms.
ability to like you know have on-chain score or DID protocols infused into it having EVM compatibility, having lots of interrupt probability between one network to another. I think the future is going to be like
a very extensive future with lots of blockchains working together. And I think chat GPT or any sort of neural network which can start processing information
in the way we discussed earlier on, if they can start monitoring and they can start creating user interfaces, which are much more user friendly. I think that would be the next phase which we are going to see. I guarantee you that, which would eventually help us towards getting more people on board.
security would be a huge issue. I mean it is huge issue as we speak but it's going to be even more where and I think that like on a larger scale we will start looking at security.
And I don't think that lots of like you know communities or like there's discussions around chat, GBT's ability to to such sentiment out would eventually lead towards it's assessing vulnerabilities in humans and then eventually can
potentially be targeting those humans to fish out their passwords or private details. So it's going to be interesting in a sense that we will see all of that happen as well.
and hopefully the good actors will triumph and create an environment which is suitable for everyone. I think that's all I have to say as opposed in all of this. But it's an exciting time, nonetheless.
Yeah, closing words, Dine. Yeah, I wanted to echo that zero knowledge, DID and hybrid custody wallets were seem to be the theme song of the San brothers here and a lot of companies are building solutions to exactly what they brought up for us. It's just about a lot got to say.
Well, at reps, another wonderful talk session. We don't necessarily come in with an agenda. We just buy Bafa, you know, some of what's happening in the space.
because you know, GPT-4 and mid-Jerney-5 just came in and totally made us forget that just less than a week ago, we thought crypto was going to collapse because ULSTC was losing its peg.
But that's how this space works right it moves incredibly fast There's just tons of interesting things happening and we try to touch or at least have a foundation of a
a topic or conversation based on just really where the vibes are here in the space of Web3. And currently, that's GPT-4. So, glad we were able to create a space where we were able to think through some interesting ideas and we even philosophize.
a bit. So that's really thanks to Polaris and Donnie and the context we're going to add. First, good to see you up there up here as well and Zcash. Welcome back. We'll be back next week. So stay tuned. Thank you everyone.