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Thursday Token Talk
Recorded: Sept. 11, 2025 Duration: 2:05:10Space Recording
Short Summary
In a dynamic discussion, the team behind a crypto project revealed their impressive fundraising efforts, raising nearly $50,000 for a charitable cause while witnessing a remarkable growth in market cap from $300,000 to $33 million. The conversation emphasized the importance of community engagement, transparency, and strategic partnerships as they prepare for an upcoming token launch.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. Yo, yo, mic check, mic check.
It's so weird.
I almost want to start speaking Spanish because I'm so used to hosting spaces in Spanish.
It's like crazy.
Hey guys, give us a few minutes so we can get all the people loaded up in here and get
obviously the ultimate co-host.
There he is, the Joe.
The Joe.
No longer Joe on chain.
We're just going to call him the Joe. Yo, Joe, mic check.
Hey Joe, we're going to kick you back down.
We're going to boot you to a listener and then that way you can join again. there you go joe
wow wow okay we figured it out there we go oh my master's at this already we already know how to do
it we you got to put the person down the listener if they're a co-host if you try to just like
have them leave the room they'll come back and you will see them still in the space as a co-host
and but you'll see yourself as a co-host by requesting to speak you get what i'm saying
yeah and and it's forced quitting the app so it's one thing to like slide up on it but it's another
thing you gotta go in your settings actually for
it the force quit button or whatever that'll also help out so yeah we're masters at this point we
all know what it's like anybody who's listening in spaces we know what it's like but uh for anybody
that is listening if you guys wouldn't mind helping us send this out by engaging we know the drill
just sending this out to new people let's bring some more people in this new show we also want
everybody to jump up here if you guys have anything you want to talk about any news you want to elaborate on from the
last week or so we'll be happy to hear whatever you guys want to talk about um but regardless you
know goose walter myself um joelle of course holding it down we'll make it a great show
regardless but appreciate you all thanks for bearing with me goose while i got up here
nah of course man so we do baby there's all don old old shark without the joe man without the joe stare what's up web uh web3jedi you can send
her an invite too if she wants to come up i'll send them an invite as well but yeah goose how
have you been man what you've been up to today you running around dropping off different stuff
yeah thursday is the busy day man thursday is a day. And I was doing some of that too, Joe, thanks.
Hey, what's up?
Right now, getting ready, man.
Man, there's so much happening in the news
and in the cycle, it's crazy what's happening.
You know, but hey guys, before we start the show,
we're gonna play the intro song and play a little music,
get people a little time to go in here.
Please post a space and like every tweet. Thanks a lot guys. Let's hit it. DJ. Sit back, relax, puffer some in stacks. Turn to small bets in the solid gold flags.
Information fire, direct to the fire.
Riding this wave, we keep climbing higher.
I'm the kid, watch the work, it's a crystal flow.
Tuning in will make your portfolio grow.
Hey guys, thanks a lot for joining us.
And oh, no, go for it.
I was gonna say we're gonna play two songs. I I heard that she wanna show me who she be, I'm kinda fuckin' with you, show me some
more.
Bitch, pretend it is a pro could give a fuck the story, bro.
You wanna tweak it up with me and I'ma show you how they go, like the money in my pockets
blow, they havin' combos about me be cussin' they just don't know.
I'm a bitch on me, American Gangster, we the F baby, born in a manger, trouble is my
friend, I ain't far in a danger.
Clip full of wings.
Turn you guards into angels.
Shoot you in your halo.
Shoot you like halo.
New Orleans, eh-ho.
Frio, wiggle.
All about my bread like niggos.
They know I'm raw like quilos.
Bald like giggos.
We so strong, it's like I twist tornadoes.
Spit like nines, four-fifths, and three-eighths
Niggas want problems, well I don't problematic
It's back to pickin' potten, cause you niggas potten
Stand down on each side, now move
Deep water, shamu
Shoot you from your head to your shoulders
Shampoo, cushion of bamboo
Pussy in the bedroom
Pass that bitch down like a heirloom
I might swerve in that corner wall Bitch, hold on tight, feel out tweaking this bitch I let you shit go Pass that bitch down like a air balloon. Like the money in my pocket's blue They havin' combos about me, these cussing niggas on
I ain't use a nigga, no, this is called out
I'ma rip blood, get rid of it
Can that bitch make the creeps pay him high
Make them chillers drive when they say you want it
In this truck's back, we gon' creep up on
We throw someone scared now
Tell the bells out with that lead
Deals wrong, right left, feel him dead
Lit top up to her head now
Inside my scope, yo, head bone
Damn shit, he literally said dope
That's not prescribed for my style bones
Yo, boy, like the blades, no hand grenades When your shit hit blow on Rip a shit, this truck on We took a coke, just put this truck on I'm like, who how that go Like the money is Like the money is
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Whoa Fire whoa whoa haha fire bro same i had that stuck in my head whoa whoa that was the first thing i was
ready to say too how can you not man that's a banger song we got one more lined up or what
are we thinking hell yeah one more baby start the show let's go Thank you. I'm heading around, don't you know Don't you know, can't stop hell, don't you know I turn around when I turn around
Don't you know, can't stop hell, don't you know
I turn around when I turn around
Don't you know, can't stop hell, don't you know
I turn around when I turn around
Don't you know, can't stop hell, don't you know
I turn around when I turn around
Don't you know, can't stop hell, don't you know
I turn around when I turn around
Don't you know, can't stop hell, don't you know
I turn around when I turn around Don't you know can't stop gasping, don't you know I'm leaving from the season
You can't walk into the dark
I turn around when I heard the sound
My songs are so slow
Just like a nation
You know, I'm gonna talk you about
I need the time to get by
You know, you'll see the passion
But I can't hold down, you're so strong
I never let you go
Now go! oh Dumbbells! I'm getting out of bed, don't you know? I'm getting out of bed, don't you know? I turn around with a heard sound
I'm getting out of bed, don't you know?
I'm getting from the city
I'm wanting to come up
I turn around with a heard sound
I'm constantly on the show
I'm just like a teacher
Now I'm just waiting for you
I'm reading time and I don't know
I'm saying you're not going to come up
I'm getting out of bed, don't you know? I'm getting out of bed, don't you know? time The show! go Let's go.
Hey guys, make sure you like, retweet the room,
you know, all the good stuff.
Let's just send this out.
We're just getting things fired up here.
It's only the second show in a row of us doing this
So let's get it. If you guys want to jump up feel free to request happy to hear from some more people. What you thinking goose?
Oh man, you know what I'm thinking. I think it's time that we power some B5. That's what I think man
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whoo let's go well everybody thank you very much for coming to this Token Talk Thursday. Still
working on the name between me and Joe, but that's all right. It doesn't matter what the
title is. The most important thing is that me and Joe, we got so many friends here with
3Jedi. We see so many people in the crowd just coming up and helping us out, Joe. And
this week has been hot in the market, a lot of news. What is up, my man, Joe?
Wow. A ton, like you said. I mean, in the markets, also out of the markets.
Obviously, today is 9-11 for anybody in the United States.
You know, we remember a lot of the heroes and people who sacrificed their lives to try and help save some people in that day.
And a lot of them were successful and their legacies still live on.
So I just want to take some time to remember those people.
And there's a lot of good people in the world that the news doesn't highlight or talk about at all. You know, they want to divide and conquer
and keep a lot of us separated, but there's a lot of great people and selfless people
all over the world, no matter where you are. This is a global show as well as the best
show on earth. So if you guys have enjoyed it thus far, make sure you guys are max engaging.
We are going to hear from Kid and Walt. We got both of them up here. So let's take it
to Walter first, who's been up from the very beginning.
Then we got Kid as well.
What's good, Walter?
You there, bro?
How you doing?
I think Walter.
Walter is actually occupied at the moment, I think, actually.
He stepped away.
He just messaged me.
Something happened.
Well, I hope he's okay.
He's jumping up to show some love.
We'll try number two.
We got Kid in the building, too.
What's good, Kid?
You there, brother?
Yo, yo. What is going on man yeah man uh just excited for another uh thursday token talk man
you know i say that with um you know somber feeling you know definitely about today i do remember
um you know when that event did happen and I remember it unifying the country and seemingly with, you know,
a similar national type circumstance going on.
I hope the same sort of unity, you know,
comes from, you know,
what we're seeing and stuff that's been happening transpiring.
You know, I hope it's a wake up call for a lot of people, honestly.
Yeah, man, a hundred percent, man. in agreement. You know, you're right,
kid. It was a day that united our country in a way. It was a great tragedy. We all as Americans
felt that burn, you know what I mean? We all felt like a piece of us was equally attacked. We all
felt the tragedy that it connected us at that time, you know? And I also want to talk about it. I don't
want to get into it too deep. I just wanna say, I like to give thoughts and prayers
to Charlie Kirk's family.
Regardless of what side you believe,
I just wanna say that nobody should be able
to take somebody's life.
That is something you should be able to walk the street safe
and you should be able to speak your mind freely
here in the United States is what we believe in.
So my hearts and prayers do go out to his family.
It's unfortunate.
And I just wanna say that did happen. And, you know, God out to his family. It's unfortunate. And I just want to say that did happen.
And, you know, God bless to his family, man.
Yeah, God bless Charlie Kirk.
Definitely.
I'm sure if you guys are on the app, you've seen the news for sure.
But don't want to harp on it too much.
Definitely want to highlight all that he's been doing, though.
Definitely trying to, you know, promote just like free speech.
I'm sure that's why a lot of us are in this space is, you know, we're here for freedom at the end of the day and always, you know, financial freedom as well as, you know, being able to say, you know, what you want within reason.
You know, as long as, you know, you're not saying anything too crazy or hateful, you know, and just promoting just unity and different things like that.
So definitely what this show is all about.
And we'd like to encourage free speech as well. So come on up here and feel free to jump on up feel free to talk about you know any any news
or events that have been uh that you want to chat about or just anything you guys are bullish on in
general we'd be happy to hear what's going on in some recent events it does look like i think
walter's back i don't know if he's throwing up emojis from another realm or another region, but I hope he's doing okay over there.
He's in this realm.
He's in this region.
He's out of the matrix with us.
Let's go, Walter.
How are you doing, bro?
Oh, no talking yet.
But hey, guys, you know what?
I want to bring up.
I know I love to talk about it in the market.
I want to get into it, but I want to talk about something extraordinary for all our technical aspects, for all our art predictions, all the massive research we do in
the trenches, for all the people that combine in the Ken and Walt, for all these things that we do
and we check out Bitcoin, we check out XRP and HBRIM. We look for all these opportunities, guys,
and we use a lot of powerful tools. But you know what? I want to talk about something to make everybody realize out here that human beings use their hearts, sometimes more than
their minds, and make decisions financially on things that they believe in. I only want to bring
up a justice for ear now as an example of this. Before we get into Bitcoin that's coming, and
there's so much bullish news, guys, for this space, I just wanted to make an example of this,
not because they, quote unquote, unfortunately, but there's some sort bullish news, guys, for this space. I just wanted to make an example of this, not because they, quote, unquote, unfortunately,
but it's some sort of death token or something and these tragedies that follow.
But I want to let people know when a movement really gets behind something, the charts can really reflect that,
that we can be analyzing as deep as we can.
But when something sparks, sometimes the unpredictable and only the things that people can believe in really just shoot up.
I mean, we were talking about this at 300K, Joe, right, kid? And it just shot up to 30 freaking
million. Let me tell you, very few technical analysts or very few people that are outside
of the trenches or mean space would have been really accessible or gotten those 100Xs. You have
to be in the spots and in these places. And what are the importance of these things? If you're looking for those crazy opportunities, and guess what?
We have technical analysis and we've got prediction. We got the rate cuts coming up in
September. We got so much I want to get into, Joe, but let me tell you, a narrative, a movement
can sometimes just be so powerful that everything else goes out the window. And you just got to know
your entrance and your exits, Joe. That's all. I just wanted to bring it up because it was just an incredible movement for
such a beautiful and like hardworking woman and it's such a sad story. And then they take this
coin and they advertise it, they push it out. And guess what? It just shot the hell up. The
movement wanted, I think that they might be contributing some money to her. I think they
might be supporting the family and donating. But at the end of the day, I wanted to talk it from
the point of investments and narrative to say that sometimes humans be humaning, man.
You know what I mean?
We talk about emotional decisions all the time.
And those emotional decisions can lead to success just as much as they can lead to emotional decisions making errors on them.
What's up, kid?
Yeah, man, I wanted to, you know, comment on that as well. Because when I started thinking about tokens that had to do with social impact and things like that, you know, my first thoughts were like, you know, this, this might be kind of in bad taste, because, you know, obviously, someone passed away, right? And I had those sort of thoughts, you know, and then I had kind of mixed emotions as meme tokens.
Yeah, man.
I wanted to comment on that as well.
They're really just like a reflection of what's going on, you know, whether it be good or bad.
We've seen every different flavor of meme, you know, kind of reflect because it's really a gauge of attention economy.
Right. And what I guess, you know, people are doing in this tokenized
field are like, where's the attention at and things. And, you know, this was definitely one
of those. And I sat and I like weighed out, okay, you know, what are the ramifications of this and
stuff like that and the morality, you know, of it. and my thoughts are is that you know these tokens are
going to exist you know every single day whether or not we take part or not right it's this big
machine if the attention can focus into something and bring awareness and attention to maybe
something that's being overlooked by the masses and it's being done, you know,
in a way that's tasteful, like with that particular project, like they've been making a concerted
effort, you know, to support the family and they've been sending out, they're actually
the leading donor of the GoFundMe and stuff like that.
I mean, I don't want to cut you off. I just want to let you know,
they have raised $342,000 so far
with a goal of $420,000.
And you're right.
A big part of that is from this community.
Just what people know.
Yes, sir.
I've been there since the very beginning of it.
And I took that moral gauge of it.
And I was like, is this going to do good?
Is it going to do harm?
Is it done in taste?
Is it something, you know? So I like, I weighed out a bunch of different things and stuff, but at the end of the day, you know, somebody's life was lost and it's something that's covering
into that attention economy. So it's going to be tokenized and that could, you know, be something
for all sorts of movements in the future. And, the future and righting wrongs or bringing things up.
We are the attention economy, arguably one of the most active sects on the internet right now as a conglomerate of the crypto.
How we're all unified and stuff
even on Twitter.
I thought it was bringing
a microscope
where people can look and see what's happening
and what have you.
Also happening in my hometown
definitely
meant a lot more to myself.
On that note, I was wondering if you could
actually sort of give a little tldr for maybe anybody who wasn't able to listen in on that
space or was maybe sleeping under a rock like myself just been juggling a lot of stuff like
are you able to give a little tldr on you know the situation you. You know, we've seen, we've seen a lot of like justice tokens,
but they, they really started with wrongs, like with like peanut or we've seen animals and things
like that. And we've seen that progress to even situations. And I predict in the future, we're
going to see social impact tokens come from all directions where we have situations like this.
Social impact tokens come from all directions where we have situations like this and, you know, people come together and talk about it.
I think a lot of it has to do with shortfallings of mental health, you know, type of things provided for citizens and stuff like that in the U.S.
I think that's the main thing.
And then also, you know, seeing different media and lack of media.
And it goes, you know, more than, you know, one way or the other.
You know, we have two opposing sides right now, basically cherry-picking the news
and then delivering it to their esteemed sides and stuff.
So, you know, I think for thought discussions and stuff that, you know,
these conversations need to be had to really get down to the nitty gritty of, you know,
what's happening, you know, behind the, you know, the curtain, so to speak.
You know, thank you.
Go ahead.
No, I was going to say, I feel like this is a clear indicator of what we speak about all the time,
going to say, I feel like this is a clear indicator of what we speak about all the time,
Kid, Joe, Evo, all of us. We speak about who is running the project. Who are the people that are
in charge? What are they accomplishing or doing with this project? And you can fill these categories
even to this right here, clearly. Are they good actors in the space? I mean, you know, it went
up to 30K, another three, but that doesn't mean that it's a poor project because it came back
down and still holding. It doesn't mean that it's a poor project because it came back down and still holding.
It doesn't mean that it's a negative project.
They could have good intentions.
We know how this space is.
And only that, it's a young project as well.
And how long will it last?
How long will it go?
Like anything else.
It's the people running the project I feel that really dictate where a project could go or where the space could go.
I mean, we believe in large CEOs.
We believe in Michael Saylor.
I believe in Brad Garlinghouse, you know, and it filters down all the way.
Again, we talk about metrics.
We talk about big positions in these companies.
But same thing.
Who are the people running this project?
Who are the decision makers?
What are their goals with these things, you know?
I think it all sums up into the space.
And with this more delicate of a subject, it becomes more clear to many people.
It's like, hey, okay, the coin's great, but what are they doing with it?
What are they going to accomplish with it? Are they actually doing
something positive in this space, in this Web3, right, Joe? You want to be positive. Utility used
to be a dirty word. Kid used to say it was the death. It was the death of projects, if you
mentioned the U word. Now, it's been completely switched. It's starting to be more utilities and
treasuries, but same thing precedes who are the people that are running this projects
Still because we want to know that we want to know this information break it down
See what they've accomplished in this space before right kid
Uh, who said that you didn't you said back in the day till he was the death of project
Yeah years ago like a year
Remember you couldn't say utility because then it would be considered like like a stock or they could come after you oh oh i never yeah i've never said that i believe that i've i've
said that like in a current market and stuff like that that utilities weren't popular let me rephrase
it talking about the utility of a project my back sorry yeah speaking about the utility i apologize
i misquote i love utility and innovation that would kind of go against what I believe. No, no, no, no, no, no. I apologize if I misquoted you. I mean talking about the utility, you know?
Yeah, I think what you're saying or, you know, what you're trying to say is definitely right.
There was a long time in this space, like we're on crypto Twitter, where if you brought up the word utility, like people would just tune out, listening you know leave go to another space you
know type of thing but like even but before that time period it was only utility you had to have
utility you have a white paper and this or that that people were looking into and then with the
previous administration they were targeting they were going after anybody who used the word utility
or said that there was any promise of money or return on
investment and that scared the space at shitless into only being able to talk about meme coins and
things that had zero utility etc or else you know people were afraid they're gonna get prosecuted
essentially so now i feel like we're coming back here we okay new administration a little more
friendly pro crypto and i'm neither you know here nor there politically speaking just says what it is
this administration has been much more friendly. So now it's like,
okay, we can finally start talking about it again and not be chastised publicly in spaces for it.
But I do see also we have Kenji up here. And speaking of CharityFi, you were one of the first people, I think you and Space Penguins to really start doing it right on my radar and everything
that you were helping. I think it was Peanut it right on my radar and everything you're helping
I think it was peanut or one of the squirrels that you were helping out with
So not sure if you want to jump up had any thoughts on sorry the charity fi aspect or maybe when it makes sense to have a coin
Versus just donate to a charity or anything like that. What's good kenji. How you doing, bro?
What's up guys, it's lunchtime
I only came on here because I saw Walter eating
a burrito I'm just playing man what's up kid what's up to all my homies man
this is like you talk kid and Walt token talk time man but to answer your
question answer your question Joe charity even before I was even known, before Ken and Walt knew about Kenji, we were doing charities.
Because I knew in my heart that, you know, in the space, we just have to do positive things.
Because crypto has been getting such a bad rap in the years past, just being scammy.
And so in order to change the perspective perspective especially in media and just public opinion
you have to be a leader I believe and find a good cause it could be a cause against cancer
could be helping you know poor people animals it could be any good cause that does a has a positive
effect and show people that there's actually some projects out here to actually give a damn
about doing something nice to other people to strangers to animals and since i'm an animal lover and all
you guys know that um i always done charities on behalf of my siberian husky um and you know i did
last year help out a community and so also kid and waltz they also helped out the uh the funky
monkey ranch with the spider monkey it was a story locally here in dfw last
year went out to their um to their their rescue ranch it was pretty cool hanging out with all the
little wild animals they're really lovely man and just like knowing where your money's going to
good causes good non-profits or even just doing it yourself and utilizing like what we did at
kinji utilizing our ambassadors that we have around the world to do charities on behalf of the Kenji community.
People that don't have any idea about crypto, but at least in their minds, they'll always know that Kenji,
they don't even know who Kenji is, but they know somebody named Kenji in a crypto community came out and did something really nice for their village or for their little local town, man. And it's it's it goes I think it really helps from a public relations perspective and marketing, too, of course.
But it's good to show there are some good crypto projects that have good intention.
But, yeah, it's it's it's I've learned at least the last 17 months.
There's two types of things that investors look at.
One, they're looking for their quick flips, their quick exits. So they're also, they're always, and then, hey, man, I'm
guilty of it too. I'm not going to be no hypocrite. We all look for those, you know, quick money
flippers to make some Solana, make some money, right? And then you have another set of investors,
people who look for like serious, large organic communities, like kind of like Gusev, people who look for like serious, large, organic communities, like kind of like
Gusev, people that have been around the space, people that are trying to build no matter how
long it takes. Like there's just those two types of investors. You got your serious investors
and you got your people who don't really care what the hell you're building. They just want
to see a green candle so they can get in and get out. And that's it. And so, yeah, that's,
that's what I'm seeing here in the space. I mean, it is what it is. It's money and um so yeah that's that's what i'm seeing here in the space i mean it is what it is
it's money and we all want to make it uh but i think the ones that you should people should
respect the most are the larger meme communities are projects that haven't given up regardless of
their market cap price action and they still are fucking grinding every day giving it their all
because honestly guys and i don't have to tell you this, it's very, very fucking exhausting. It's stressful. It's tiring. It's tiresome.
And it's an unloving job. Honestly, a lot of people don't care about the dev. They don't
care about the team. All they care about is when are you going to pump my bags and when I can get
the hell out. And that's it. But there are some good people that actually do care about what
you're doing and they see you're busting your ass and um you know like there's so many that come on the kid and wall show man they're still around
different blockchains and this is why i like this show man because there's a lot of kols in the
space and you have to pay them a shitload of supply or money and they only talk about your
project once or twice and they're out they don't give a damn if you succeed but then you have the
kid and wall show that actually gives a lot of
weeks, a lot of air time
so people can really understand what people are
trying to build. And I think
our show, and no
disrespect to any other social media influencers
out here, I think our show is really
good about that, man. It's giving the average woman
or man the opportunity to come
up here and give it their best elevator
pitch and show people that they haven't fucking given up.
They don't care if their market cap's 30 or 40 or 80, whatever.
You know, they're still here because they actually want to build something.
And I know a lot of them are on BNB.
We got some on Ethereum.
We got, you know, some really strong ones on Solana,
even though Solana is really, really tough.
And, of course, Subi and some others.
But, man, you know, I just like the people that continue to show up.
Like, even Joe.
Joe fucking gave his offer Super S.
I mean, all I heard last year was Super S, Super S, Super S.
And he's still here, you know.
He's fucking grinding and showing up, man.
You know what I'm saying?
Goose building the Verge Media.
Of course, Kenny Walt continues to build more shows.
I can't even keep up with them. Every day I'm looking at a new schedule yo wall kid man i'm losing i'm losing
the schedule dude i'm trying to come in here show my love man we got ray sharks we got been
billions unico the latin show we i mean we're doing it all guys i mean you you can't ask for
anything better than honestly if i was a project and i wanted to get the most out of
my money the most bang out of the buck i would definitely choose the kenny wall show because
you guys have multiple shows multiple different time zones to give everybody a fair shot to hear
your project and you're not going to hear that from some of the other kols at all and let's be
honest it's the truth and we all know it. And I think people who are
considering on opening up a project. And if you guys have a marketing budget and you want me to
be very, very honest with you, I know you look at some of these big KOLs because they're going to
pump your chart that one, two, three, four, five hours. And after that they're out. But if you're
looking for something that's going to be worth your money and extend it over time and build some
kind of reputation for you and your project, I definitely will recommend the kid and wall show to actually do that because
we actually do what we say. And this is why I really love all you guys, man.
You gotta believe baby.
Let's go. Man, can you see we're talking about good leadership. I appreciate that.
Something. And I mean, kid and wall's leadership is incredible in this space and they formulated a team
and they work with other KOLs and other builders in this space. They have no PVP. I mean,
that's what you want to do. You want to construct in this space. And honestly, I see a lot of people
and a lot of faces out here that have made this dream a possibility. Kaden Walt, of course. And
then I see Joe and Kenji, Web3Jet i see ben billions out there i see good dogs that's
uh joe follows out there so there's so many people in this space that are building positively
and we're bringing that all together what's up web jedi
hey hey yeah hopefully it goes down it's a little delay on x i don't know why it does that
but um yeah no i uh i always know, just from the kid and wall
experience, you know, I have a background in PR and publicity and worked in, you know, media.
And I can tell you firsthand from my expert eye, this is not just, oh, I'm going to buy a spaces
package to promote my brand or company on, know in web3 this is they have a network
and they're more i think of it more as a publicity engine if you're looking for the feel of like an
outsource publicity firm that is going to like crystallize over time and acted like pr and
awareness for your brand, literally you guys
should position yourself in your marketing and outreach as publicity engine for web three,
because that's exactly what you guys are. You offer a, uh, multitude of, um, you know,
networked opportunities to professionals, to just, you know, a ginormous effect. You know, this is not just a one-time
thing. Like what I always told my clients over the years did a lot of, you know, in gaming and tech
and, um, more like in, um, you know, consumer products. I did a lot of like Kickstarters and
things successfully in my past, um, in the past decade. And what I always told my clients is, you know, nothing can
really pay for publicity. You know, um, it's, it's why PR people and marketing firms and top
firms get paid so much money because literally when it clicks and it works, it, man, it pays
for itself 300 X plus, you know, um, you just you just can't you just you can't find a better
value in return on investment and a lot of time went into like you have to condition people to
understand the value of you know publicity because it's it's it's hard because it's non-linear a lot
of the times it's not linear you know a lot of projects will come on and they'll start with like 100,000 market cap.
And they'll start their, you know, their space hosting and introducing themselves.
And people get to learn about the project.
But just like, you know, you go to like a store and you might, you know, there's a bunch of projects on Web3 on a panel.
So you go to a store, there's a bunch of products on the shelf, right?
So consumer studies show and prove that you have to have repeat exposure.
Different advertisements, maybe on TV, maybe go to the store, you see a sign,
maybe you see, you know, something on social media.
You have to have different touch points and multiple touch points of exposure.
You have to have different touch points and multiple touch points of exposure.
So it takes like three, four, five, six, seven shows and showing progress.
And people get to like, you know, earn, you know, you're earning your trust.
You know, people see you sticking around, you're working hard for your project, you know.
100%.
It just looks good.
That's what really makes a difference.
And that's the best type of marketing.
So definitely recommend it.
You're hired.
Yes!
Oh, my gosh!
It's just fast.
You're hired.
It's just fast.
No, for real.
Marketing and publishing and pushing out your projects is all incremental part of everything that's been done here.
People understand it's a large cake and there's a lot of slices to this.
You know, there's financing financing there's advertising to things there's projects if your utility project
or you're not a little utility project there's so much to this but to think that letting people know
about your project out there or having good speakers because there's a lot of great developers
they know xrp meant tons of great developers first they've developed some magnificent projects out
there but guess what they don't have the ability to effectively communicate they're just not good at it
and having someone that can communicate is so much more effective or push out or inform somebody
about them you could have invented the greatest car in the world but if nobody knows about it no
one's ever gonna buy it no one's gonna even look at it yeah no one's gonna ask for that test drive
and to web3 jedi's point i think it's an average of
six it's like six to twenty times or something like that somebody actually yeah has to see
something or touch points like you said before they'll even consider buying something so exactly
like you said i think that was perfectly said it's just like you know they they get you know
people from every angle it's on x and then tg and then um you know they have live streams
and different things going on so definitely incredibly powerful engine i like that as well
that was very well said web3 publicity engine i'm telling you goose use that deleting your marketing
and you'll win because nobody can beat that right it's the truth it's the absolute truth
we make it look easy. It really is.
V8 engine, baby.
Or no, V12.
Got to get the big boy in there.
Heavy.
Diesel.
Big ass.
You should have seen the truck I was driving.
It was an F350, dude.
Like the fucking hillbilly ranch out here.
At the auction.
That bitch was.
It's like a mid-sized car over there, I swear.
Bro, because I do auctions.
She said.
Second Amendment on the back. don't trend on me,
F-350. I'm like, who in the
fucking climb this shit, dude? I was laughing
my ass off.
Oh, man. The bigger
the truck, the bigger the Texas.
Nah. No, the bigger the truck,
the bigger the girl, bro, down here.
He said he likes
the torta.
I knew Kio was going to come in with that one.
That's five
tortas, man.
There's nothing wrong with a tortoise man that needs love to, baby.
That's a lot of loving in that truck.
Something that you guys
can do to help
projects and also
attract fun and engagement
at the same time.
You know how newspapers and magazines give out those awards?
I highly recommend you guys start doing your own kid and while experience type awards.
So basically how this would work, it would be very, very easy.
You can spin up an image recognizing a new project in DeFi.
You have three categories.
You'd have DeFi, memes, and whatever, utility, whatever.
You have the categories.
You could do it weekly.
You could do it monthly.
You can have the community at your main Twitter.
You can have them vote on the categories and who's going to win the poll.
So like user's choice poll.
And that's going to bring publicity to the Kid and Walt network and equally to each of those projects.
Now, the community poll wins.
So it's an active voice and it gets the public and the retail market coming involved.
So that's a free marketing strategy that's not really a marketing strategy.
It's more of like a consumer engagement strategy to grow your audience, a growth hack.
I would highly recommend you do it.
And it's basically free alongside what you're doing anyway.
I mean, most of the time, we'll just make the graphic for the three categories and your three choices.
And just literally post it out there and have like three different polls once a month and then you're done and then announce it announce the winners
at the end of the month or whatever however you want to you know time it i like i like it i like
it wait a minute that's the smartest thing i've ever heard anyone say about anything. No, I mean, it's a value and it doesn't really cost anything, but a little bit of maybe like
an hour's work a month, I say tops.
Maybe finding the projects that you like.
It's fun.
You can pick out the projects you like.
It doesn't have to only be your clients.
It could be just projects that you just really think are awesome.
And maybe you'll end up getting a client out of it too.
You know? Yeah.
I love it with Jedha.
I think we're going to run it through the, uh, through the bosses.
You know what I mean?
Get it on what they say about it, but Hey guys, we'd like to talk a little
bit about the market.
What's coming up.
There's so much happening this month, rate cuts, ETS, but I don't
just tease it a little bit, but come on guys, like retweet the room.
We're here for you. Post about the space. Let's receipt the room. Come on, Mr. DJ. Let's get a
little love. Come on everybody. Like and retweet the room, baby.
Dale mensaje, dale un like, dale un tweet. Vamos, yo se que todo mundo tiene deditos ahí.
Vámonos, Laminous. But y'all already know it guys, like and retweet the report one more time from Nico Mom.
Come on little bastards get
those fat ass thumbs use your big toe i don't care where you use use your nose i don't care but like
and reach there you go thanks wall for that you're always here coming in clutch dude but let's get
into it joe there's you know what september has been known for a dumpish month but instead it's
looking like it's pump timber instead, my man.
First thing I like to bring up, rate cuts, baby. They're coming in hard. It looks like it's about
95% rate cuts, percentages coming in. Will it be a 0.5? Will it be a 0.25? We don't know right now.
We're looking like it's going to be multiple cuts coming up this year, but that means super,
super bullishness for the market that's coming in hot
right now. You know what I mean, Joe? Yeah, definitely. I mean, for anybody that doesn't
know, rate cuts typically means it's just cheaper for businesses to borrow more money. And then that
just means that there's a lot of economic activity about to happen and things start to send. So
that's sort of the long and the short for why everybody's always talking about rate cuts and this and that and inflation and this and that has to do with how much money
is about to come into risk on or risk off assets. Right now, crypto is still considered a risk on
asset, but we all know it's really risk off and it's going to switch over to that over time. So
yeah, rate cuts. Great, man. I'm stoked. We, we all, you know, everybody who's listening on this, we all probably already knew that. And, uh, we're just positioning
ourselves for the rest of the bull run. So let's get it. What's up kid. What'd you think?
Yeah, no, um, that's something that I've been watching really closely the past couple of weeks.
And, um, you know, we have some conflicting numbers right now, like job, joblessness and
unemployment went up, which usually encourages like a rate cut.
Right. Kind of loosen the belt, so to speak, on, you know, said businesses like you were saying.
But we also had a slight uptick in inflation was which is now, you know, we went from a very, very likely,
you know, um, rate cut to now, like they're, they're wondering if that can may actually
be getting kicked down the road a little bit more.
So, um, you know, it looked like a shoe in, you know, if you asked me, you know, a week
or two ago, um, but you know, with that data and stuff
like that, now it seems like it's almost at like a coin flip. They haven't chopped any rates yet
in, you know, 2025. So everybody's kind of expecting it, but may have to wait one more
month, man. Honestly, they went a little hawkish as of, you know, the past couple of days,
especially with that cpi data release
uh so that's just my take from it and what i've i've been hearing
september 17th totally could happen of course none of us know when any of this stuff is going
to happen we're just sort of sort of speculating on what's going on but i do think something
historic happened very recently i don't know if it was a week ago or two weeks ago but i think
we really slept on it and all the crypto industry i I didn't see it on my timeline much. I'm pretty
sure that the Fed actually announced that they're no longer going to use inflation as one of their
core targets for things they're aiming for. Yeah. So the 2%, at least they're getting rid of the
2% inflation target, totally just abolishing that as a thing.
I think they're going to readjust the true inflation. I don't think 2% is a reachable goal
much. Yeah. Well, not anymore. The cat's out of the bag. Can't put the toothpaste bag in the tube.
Things are really snowballing here in terms of how much inflation we have. So we'll see. I'm
going to grok search that in a minute minute but i remember that being something that popped up on my timeline and i don't really think we
blew it up enough because if that's true that's like a absolutely you know massive thing that
we're living through right now go ahead web through jedi
yeah just just observationally you know just pattern recognition seeing everything around
what's been going on and with the tariffs and all the changes um we're not going to go back to eggs being i don't know
four dollars five dollars or whatever it was before we're not going to go back to a lot of
things that were cheaper um what's going to happen is with the change of ai and all the things
i mean i started i mean i'm I'm in the active job search,
you know, sending out resumes.
And, you know, I've been noticing, like,
roles such as AI content creator.
That's all things that people in our shoes,
we do every day because we're in the memes world, right?
And we're making videos.
We're making memes.
Sometimes we're doing it for fun.
Sometimes we're doing it for money.
We're a mix of both.
And these jobs right now, right now, unless they've hired somebody, right now they have a $200,000 a year position at OpenSea for AI content creator.
I bet you half of people.
No way.
No way.
That's a big salary.
Yeah.
So these are the types of roles so it's
the job market is terrible nobody can deny it from trump to the lowest person on the totem
nobody can deny that it's been but they've been really bad for a while but it's it's hit the
the worst of the worst um yeah i mean economic data the. The light's ahead of us because there's a shift going on where a lot of these AI roles
are going to open up and there'll be a lot of training.
There'll be a lot of stuff.
And people are going to make more money because it's going to be such high demand
plus cybersecurity and tech.
So things are changing.
It's going to be a lot of hardship maybe for the next few years.
But I think after that, things will start to even out and there'll be a lot of different jobs, you know?
Yeah, absolutely.
I think it's indicative of the market.
Like you can see people always confuse the stock market,
the economy, crypto.
They kind of, it's all connected,
but sometimes aspects of those three can accelerate
and other parts can decelerate.
You know, people are feeling or the belief,
like I said, humans are human.
And we spoke about it earlier, you know, the decisions the decisions that we make not only that companies have the time it
takes to look forward for two four ten twenty years from now they get you know when a person's
buying sometimes a person an individual might be looking at the short term and even longer term
just being a year where a business can look at the long run and have time it takes thinking oh
well eventually i which i do believe crypto or or Bitcoin, my bad, will be at $1 million.
I mean, if you were to buy now, no matter, regardless of the price changes, at one point,
you'd be in the positive. Going back to the rate changes, though, one of the things that it could
mean for the market now, now, kid, I mean, with the information he gave me, it looks like the percentages might have changed.
But still, if this does lower the rates, all this liquidity, all these risk on askets that Joe called over there, as they're called, will be coming in.
People will feel more confident to bring in that liquidity.
More liquidity into the space is an extreme, extremely positive.
And that's just happening in September.
Yeah. And moving on now into October, we got something super bullish. And again, this space
moves fast, but the ETFs are going to be starting to be scheduled. And a lot of predicting again,
approvals for a lot of these ETFs. And I believe it's something like almost 30 ETFs at this point
that have applications, but we're looking at 12 of them in October, I believe 24th
through the 28th is the range that they're expecting the next date of approval. So these
ETFs, they could mean hundreds of millions of dollars. This is where a lot of people think
that BlackRock being the largest doesn't mean that it is everything. There's actually more
money in midsize firms combined than there is in BlackRock out there by a lot. The midsize firms are actually the largest firm combined are the largest part of the investment economy. So these ETS being available for everybody will mean tons of people allocating. I mean, if you just dedicate 1% of people's portfolio, it would be 10 tens of millions of dollars pouring in instantly we've
seen what the btc and the etf uh the eth and the btc coins did for etf what etfs did for those coins
my bad it was amazing so again and that's happening just in october joe coming down the corner
definitely a lot coming up around the corner i just wanted to clarify real quick and then we'll
take things over to good dogs who jumped up here that the official word choice was flexible
inflation targeting so that's what the fed has a some flexible inflation targeting approach that's
what's going on here so we'll see exactly what that means,
how it plays out.
So I guess 2% still the goal,
but I think that they're kind of leaning towards,
you know,
some more ambiguous terms there,
but just wanted to clarify that.
So they didn't officially say that.
But I did see good dogs jump up here. i also just want to give a reminder if they
could retweet the room or anybody that jumps up here happy to have anybody come share their
opinions or their thoughts on what's going on in the markets all we ask that you guys retweet the
room you know just come if you're jumping up or you know coming to someone's house gonna take off
your shoes bring some wine maybe some cheese you know kind of same thing jumping up here on these
stages so happy to talk to anybody. Oh,
yeah. So to retweet the room,
follow the hosts and the other speakers as well.
You want to say something before we go to good dogs?
Yeah, no, no. I just wanted to say,
let's get some intro music for my boy. Good dogs. Come on, man.
Hey, let's get it. Let's go what's up good dogs, you know you're talking about bad boys Joey, but this is a good dog bro. What are you doing?
What's up?
Yeah, good boys. What's up guys? What's up guys? Thank you for the intro. That was that was amazing
Just wanted to jump in and say hi to everybody. Hi Joe
We've been following each other for a bit and had a chance to hear you talk IRL.
So this is good.
I just wanted to kind of hop in a convo and see what's happening in October in regards to ETFs.
Do you mind being a little bit more specific?
Oh, yeah.
No problem at all.
I'm not an expert per se, but there's over 30 different applications that have been submitted to applying to the SEC. And several of these applications between October and November are suited. They had many denials back in, I believe it was August. It might have been a little bit earlier in July, so I apologize about the date, but they were denied or not rephrase it, not denied, but they wanted more information since many of the laws like the XRP case had finished up.
The SEC had finished wrapping up several pending cases with large, large exchanges, Binance, Coinbase. in the space. So these applications, the application approval went from something like 70% to almost
98% for a lot of these applications, because they've been working directly with the SEC and
setting these applications. So there's a good faith, again, nothing is guaranteed, they can
always push it back, they can always look for better entrances before allowing the market to
enter all this is possible. But it's looking like there's a significant chance of approval for about 12 specific ETFs,
ranging for HBAR, XRP, for Cardano, ADA, and they're even looking at in the future.
Now, you're talking about Doge being actually an ETF as well, which would completely change the game.
being actually an ETF as well, which would completely change the game. It would be the
first ETF to absolutely have no direct corporation or significant, like, how do I say it? Not a
utility, but sales value ever included a meme, an actual meme would be the first ETF ever. So,
and the approvals for these are looking quite good at this time. Is anything guaranteed? As we know,
looking quite good at this time. Is anything guaranteed? As we know, this space is highly
flexible, right, Joe? Highly flexible. But the amount of money from the ETF that can come in,
it is some of the most looked after. HBAR, XRP, and Cardano are some of the three hottest coins
that people are looking for. And what does that mean for the space? It just means millions of
dollars. It means millions of dollars for many of the secondary layer twos for mean point projects. So I believe
it's going to be extremely, extremely bullish when approved, not if approved, when approved,
would it be approved this October coming up? The chances are looking high at this moment,
but could always be pushed back. But I believe there is very little chance that they won't be approved at some point, at least.
That is my opinion.
I don't see it very far and very far, but let's just say it goes into next year, even goes into February.
I doubt it wouldn't pass 2026, these ETFs getting approved.
I think these ETFs...
That's super bullish.
Go ahead, GoodDogs. No, I was just going to say that's super bull go ahead good dogs
no I was just gonna say that's super bullish thanks for for going into depth on the no no
problem at all man there's also Litecoin truth social ETFs going on Bitcoin Ethereum Solana
XRPG said Cardano HBAR Dogecoin Polkadot Avalalanche aptos sui say tron all going very soon so
definitely a lot happened and i there's a full list i'm not sure all of them off the top of my
head but of 20 22 or 2022 i don't know what they're calling compliance blockchain yeah
h bar yeah i believe h bar sui a couple others are already compliant with the SWIFT banking system.
So those are other like L1s I'd be taking a look at right now.
Woo-wee, man, compatible with SWIFT.
Things in the next year are going to get spicy for real, man, spicy.
The amount of transactions going to be happening on chains, the amount of volume, I believe, coming for crypto is going to be massive.
Transactionary volume means a lot more value, stability more growth i mean incredible i mean like i said even
if it pushes back from october say to december the eventuality of these things are are coming
for this space joe i can't sleep at night definitely an eventuality i'd have to agree um and good dogs i guess on that note is there
anything specific that you're bullish on i see you're building on solana but what chains are
you you really looking at right now are you more in the trenches or looking at larger caps what
are you looking at well right now we're building on solana. We really believe in Solana from get-go.
We were building on Solana when it was $8, and we're still building on Solana.
But we're definitely going to be a multi-chain collection,
and we have multi-chain aspirations.
Probably the next two chains that we would build after the solana mint would be bitcoin and um we were
looking into possibly ape chain uh because uh guys from ape chain have been very um into good dogs
and i've been in some of their spaces and they're like, oh, you should drop some special collection
They've changed. So we're looking into that into future as well
But yeah, right now the the first mint is definitely gonna be on Solana and we're we're excited about it
Wow. Oh, yeah
Congratulations, dude. No, no dude in your you were built in Solana with eight dollars. Wow.
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's not that we knew, but we believe in Solana and we believe it's it's it's it's you know it's gonna be thousand
dollars one day but uh it's just a great network it works really well and uh it's a little bit
harder to build on technically but um we saw that as a challenge and uh and yeah the first mint is going to be on solana that's for
sure oh yeah very bullish on solana also been a fan we were building on it since around eight
dollars too so i guess that's why we connected before um so definitely great to have you up here
good dogs if anybody else wants to share their opinions on some things they're bullish on or any
of the news that's been going on recently feel free to jump up like i said all that we asked
that you're you know retweet the room follow us and we'd be happy to have you up here any
of your thoughts or opinions i guess i'm curious goose also i heard i don't know i think it was
over last week that justin's son i believe got his account frozen on no way no no well liberty
financial no no no he didn't get frozen on tron. That's his baby. That's his. That's his. He's owner of ATX. ATX owns PylonX, which is an incredible platform fast. And he's the founder of Tron Network. That guy is not being shut out of those wallets. What happened was is there were some activity on World Liberty Financial. And I'm reading the, by the way, I'm not reading anything right now. So this is off the top of my head for the moment, guys, you might want to double check on some of this, but I am sure I'm 85% accurate in my information that some of the wallets, because he was a major purchaser, early investor into froze his wallets, which when you purchase World
Liberty Financial, especially pre-sale, which I've done pre-sales before, and they will have
stipulations on there that they can freeze your wallet. There are amounts that you can sell and
not sell. I do not know what's in the contract for Justin Sun. I do know that if there was or
not one, they still froze him temporarily. I don't know if he's been unfrozen, but he is a large
contributor to Trump. He's a
large contributor with World Liberty Financial and something else, I believe. And I think he's,
oh, he's a large Trump token holder, which is why he got one of the meetings. So I think they just
put the kibosh on him for right now, the stock, just to not, you know, slam the markets too much.
They don't want the coin value to drop too heavily so the restricted is his
ability to sell for the moment i don't know interesting i'm sure then he was aware if
there's some type of vesting schedule or something but um definitely interesting thanks for clarifying
those world liberty five that makes way more sense as much less dramatic than it feels on
tron itself i was like like, oh my God, another
crazy thing that happened. I didn't really see it. Yeah. Knocked out of Tron would be
crazy. It'd be billions. Yeah, definitely. But all right. Pretty, pretty cool. Then I'm
also reading more about it in terms of Grok. So whenever I'm looking for more information
now, I'm just kind of Grok and stuff. I appreciate that they show. Oh man, I wanted to talk.
I had, I wanted to talk. Well, so we talked about, I mean, first of all, Bitcoin bitcoin's been consolidating at a high as 114 which is solid from it's down 108 is as low as it
went so we talked about the cpi but guys nasdaq wants to tokenize securities i don't i again
another extremely and what i mean extremely bullish for this space even if it takes to the
end of 2026 which would be an accelerated time.
People don't understand how slow bureaucracy really works or it takes to build something
on the financial system. Here, just changing from the Department of Defense and Department
of War is going to cost something like $200 million. Just so people have an example of
how much bureaucracy really takes. So them accelerating this and making this possible very soon, say by
2026 would be incredible, Joe. It'd be like life-changing type of functionalities and money
that would flow because now you're talking about NASDAQs and being able to trade 24 seven. Yes,
I know everybody says, oh, you could do that in certain applications now. Yes, you can do that
in certain stocks, in certain applications. There's reasons do that in certain stocks in certain applications there's
reasons that these people please like microsoft um what's another one uh nvidia again i'm saying
google these can be traded 24 hours a day because they're they're so thick the liquidity i mean to
move any type of market you would take billions of dollars for crypto other than bitcoin it wouldn't
take very much so these being on chain
is going to be responsibly put on, but it's going to be this amazing opportunity that people are
going to be able to trade their favorite stocks now in the future. I'm sure a lot of crypto stocks
will get listed. I'm sure eventually every stock on the NASDAQ will be tokenized at one point,
and that'll mean 24 hours serving trading. That means easy availability. That means that not only
that on chain, which is what's scary, I believe for a lot of banks is you'll be able to see all transactions of all
competitors even in-house transaction leveling the playing field joe could you imagine that
leveling the play with reading shorts and longs you can see their longs and shorts too baby i'm
looking forward to that day i'm looking forward to it but i'm not gonna hold my breath i'll be
honest with you i definitely think we'll get uh we'll tokenize a lot of to it but i'm not gonna hold my breath i'll be honest with you i definitely
think we'll get uh we'll tokenize a lot of these securities but i don't think that the banks and
the major players are gonna ever allow for you know the everyday person to actually be able to
see behind the curtains what they're doing what goes on etc i do think if for anybody who's been
around for multiple cycles we used to talk about this all the time. This is like, you know, major Bitcoin and crypto theory here is that like
this space will eat and absorb the cost of everything. It's like, you know, when we're
trying to figure out, you know, what's the ultimate highest market cap that crypto can go
or Bitcoin or Ethereum or whatever, we're looking at, you know, them eating all of the other
industries like and just putting everything on the
blockchain, all value being on chain. So that's what just makes this incredibly bullish and us
so incredibly early. So it's just crazy to see just how quickly a lot of that meta conversation
has actually come into fruition or come into being right now. We're seeing the NASDAQ,
like you said, is actually talking about tokenizing stocks. And to be honest with you, duh, it just makes sense. They're going to earn more fees. Traders
are going to be able to trade more. Capital market efficiency just makes sense to put things on
chain versus doing things the old Swift banking way. It's just more efficient how a lot of these
blockchains process transactions or batch them or whatever. I really think what's going
to be interesting to watch evolve is how TradFi adopts DeFi with like liquidity pools and different
things like that. I don't think a lot of people understand, you know, just to keep it quick,
there's like the liquidity pools that we use in DeFi and there's order books that have existed
forever before that. And that's how the stock
market works now is they have to find one match. If you want to sell a stock at a certain price,
they have to have people buying at that exact price. Whereas crypto, we have these liquidity
pools, which are based off of a constant that's set as soon as you create the liquidity pool.
And then based on an algorithm, you can just deposit and take out. So we'll watch these
things sort of merge as time goes on and that will lead to more arbitrage and capital out. So we'll watch these things sort of merge as time goes on and that will lead to
more arbitrage and capital efficiency. So I think that the banking sector is going to be salivating
at a lot of what goes on and ultimately also be some of the biggest advocates for privacy
in a lot of ways, which is kind of crazy to think about and weird.
Yeah, right.
I think that's what's going to happen. Go ahead, Goose.
No, no, I'm saying you're right.
Yeah, for privacy.
Oh, I wanted to, man, I wanted to back a little bit
because you're right in something.
The problem, the friction is, it's a transaction
from heavier fees to more value.
You get what I'm saying?
So to make that same penny per transaction now,
it costs you, you're only going to make like, say a 10th of a penny per transaction now, it costs you, you're only gonna make like,
say a 10th of a penny per transaction
when you move on to some of that.
But the idea is that instead of 10 transactions,
the blockchain should be able to charge
a thousand transactions much quicker, much easier,
much frictionless, and that would be a cost savings for us,
but it would also be unfortunately
a losing profit value for them.
Because that's one of the reasons that a lot of these banks and people understand like, when you're used to, if I'm making a million dollars a day, I want to change nothing, Joe.
I don't want to change.
I'm not looking for the future unless that future involves me making more profit from it.
Why would I want to change a system that completely works for me?
Why would I want to do that? So unfortunately for them, this push into this restriction,
the government and us, thanks to us in this space, pushing this and making this reality,
I believe they're going to be forced to adapt. If people want that new money, if they want that,
the people that are 21 and under to be focused and be trading, they're going to look for profiles.
Why do you think Robinhood has been the fastest growing platform for years?
It's onboarding more new investors than any platform in the shortest period of time.
And what do they do any different? Not much, believe it or not, on the back end. Like you're
right, Joe, the order book hasn't changed. The paying for somebody to process hasn't changed.
The clearing houses hasn't changed. What changed was how they marketed and how they connected with the people now when the order books change when everything changes in the back i think
that'll be a big deal and we're seeing that now joe that's what there we go i remember now
treasuries what you're talking about is beginning to evolve these pools are treasuries people are
starting to hoard large amounts of these cryptos do Doge, Bitcoin, as we can see already,
Michael Saylor, Ethereum came up,
one of the largest purchase of Ethereum,
actually just happened probably about a month ago,
actually I think about two, sorry,
what's this, probably about two weeks ago,
and the guy sold his Bitcoin position,
and now at 3.5 billion, I believe,
give my might be a little 100 million off there,
they're the largest
Staked Ethereum larger than the Ethereum foundation Joe
Something man, that's a big Treasury And so I think that part of that ability to tokenize or that liquidity is is in those treasuries
I think it's I think you just had me connected with just a little bit more right now
Absolutely There it is. I knew a sound effect that's coming
in there somewhere. Yeah, absolutely. I think the future is going to be tokenized and we're
even seeing that with the mass adoption of stable coins. And I think that's really going to drive a
lot of banks to have no choice. Like you said, they literally just have no choice to adopt or
die. There's just more efficient capital markets
elsewhere that we're using currently, the people in this room, DeFi, and they literally have to
adopt that or else people are going to start using, more and more people are going to turn
to these markets. They saw what happened during the Solana meme coin season, all this stuff.
Phantom was one of the top trending wallets for a long time. Coinbase has been there for a long
time. People are onboarding and they're looking for it. Why would I be at my bank that charges me $10 every single month to keep money in it and
lose value? I don't even get the interest. It doesn't even outpace the $10 a month fee. Whereas
I could keep my money on Coinbase or Robinhood or whatever and earn 5%, 6%, 7%, not even doing
anything. I don't even have to buy a stock or anything. Why would I not
do that? So I definitely think that these are inevitabilities for banks if they want to be
around and really the next driving forces in markets for the next hundred years.
I think you said it, man. I think that that's why one day I'm going to log into my Bank of America.
I'm going to see my checking account in dollars and right underneath, I'm going to see Bitcoin,
Ethereum, XRP. I'm going to see moving into, I believe that that is something that we'll see
seamless within. Why? Because you just said it. Why would you, why would I hold my money at Chase,
Bank of America, Wells Fargo? Why would I, why would I go to a small community bank when I can
go to a virtual bank, earn more interest, be seamless? And not only that, if I want euros,
I bet you it is simpler and much easier to just get convert, get into some euros and transfer
them over in the fee. I mean, we're building toward this. So the banks have to, if they
want a piece of those fees, they have to adapt. You have to make it available for customers
to want to use your services. And if they don't implement these services, that's going
to be a significant amount of money that they're not going to be accessing they're going to be losing out i i agree with you and i think that the real alpha
in what you said is that you're going to be looking at things in terms of dollar amounts
and have crypto behind it i'm going to have all my stuff set to satoshi amounts i want to know
how many stats i have money usd't matter to me yeah everything else for anybody
who was here a few cycles ago we used to not even compare any cryptos in US dollar amounts everything
was compared and how many stats how much stats it was that's just how everything was across the board
that's how we talked you know and then I remember that yeah and then and then we sort of transitioned
when you know more people like myself you know more and more like normie centric people came on.
Then we started using more U.S. dollars as a, you know, more consistent point.
But we all know really all that matters is stack and sats.
So I think in the future, we'll see that shift begin again.
It's like we don't compare things in terms of dollars.
We don't say this is, you know, souls at 230.
We say, you know, souls at, you know, 100 sats or, you know, whatever it is in the future.
So, cause that's all that really matters at the end of the day, but we'll see, we'll see what
happens. We'll see. What are your thoughts on that, Goose? No, I think that's exactly, again,
it's going to be idiot proof, you know, you're going to be able to, just like we do on our app
that we use for crypto, you can set it in dollars. I can set it in Bitcoin. I can set it like my
default currency as Ethereum. So it'll show me my value of even my XRP, it'll convert into Ethereum for
me. And I think that that's an easily programmable thing into the C systems. And I think it's going
to be defaulted. You know what, they're going to want that in there. Because the more people
that start clicking that little, what would you want your currency presented in? BTC, stats,
Ethereum, the more people that do that, the more
metrics they're going to get and say, yeah, people are not looking at this in dollars value. People
want to see this in BTC. Will that be a smaller percentage? Yeah, of course it will be. People
know what they're used to. You see a $5 item, you want to calculate $5. You don't want to do
the conversion of how many stats it's going to be. People's brains don't function like that.
But the switchover slowly coming, I believe will slowly go from one percent three percent five
percent ten percent which will get which will indicate that people are much more interested
in looking at value in other currencies than the u.s dollar definitely it all comes back to
part of the great reset and us keeping the usd as world dominant currency
and all this stuff it's just so crazy to see that crypto is coming back around and being this thing
that once was rejected by the us like literally the thing that's going to save it from itself so
and we even had i think it was vladimir putin just call out uh just call out the us for exactly what
we're doing pretty much which is resetting the monetary system using crypto you literally just call it out yeah he sees it he sees what we're trying to do he
suspects that we're trying to transfer a 33 trillion dollar debt on chain and let me tell
you something you might you like it hate it whatever you want to do the power that the us has
to be able to the power the us has to be able to do something like that shows you
at the end of the day that we're still the king of the markets. I mean, I'm not saying
that that's going to happen anytime this year, next year, who knows, to be honest, but the
possibility is actually there. It drives me well. And I wanted to get into it one second
because Joe, you mentioned up a point point you calculate everything in stats and you might you mentioned when usdd dt came out and we talk about
treasuries and we talk about industries connecting with the banks and let me tell you that for a lot
of people that don't like or dislike usdt or tether part of the reason that the us by the end
even when the gary ginsler age age got it sounds so dirty coming in my mouth
don't hate that guy but anyway even the guys she said usdt yeah it is what she said bro
had so much money in treasuries billions of dollars i'm sorry hundreds of millions of
dollars locked up because they were smart they started buying treasury bills and they obviously
they use a lot of other things and bitcoin and no one's ever
sure there's a lot indicated oh we can't trust them but the fact is that they bought a lot of
treasury bills they and you don't have to trust them or not but when somebody owns billions of
dollars in treasury bills they can dump if you don't like them the saudis shows you that they
do have a grip on the control value of the money control system here in the U.S.
So it was smart to tie it to them. It forced, in a sense, the American economy, the U.S. economy,
to exemplify and recognize it. They're like, whoever this is, whoever this business is,
they've bought millions and continue to buy millions of dollars in U.S. training,
sustaining the U.S. dollar. To dump that many treasury bills out of nothing would
have been a significant cascading effect on the US dollar, especially when they were so
anti-crypto at the time. So I think that USTT has a lot to do with how it was able to predicate
the US market as well. And then, you know, it got US people involved, allowed them not to think in
stats as well as very psychological, you know, psychology has a lot to do with it, but that backend sustaining of those T-bills was huge, man.
And it, again, it made people in the United States, especially in economy, take notice,
my friend.
Yeah.
And that's what they're going to, that's what they're going to continue to do is just keep
buying up T-bills and bonds.
And that's exactly how they're going to get rid of our debt and then poof it away so
very interesting for sure um but goose i guess i'm curious you know again we know that usd us
is going to do whatever it's going to do in terms of monetary policy but i'm curious if anybody up
here has like a bull case and a bear case for bitcoin or ethereum or any of the top cryptos for end of year
this year i want to know you know what what's your highest highest end like bull case the
everything works out rate cuts happen you know greatest case scenario and then worst case
scenario and kid i see jump back up here web3jetJet. I'm curious for your guys' takes, if you guys have like a bull case, bear case.
Personally, I'll jump in right now.
You know, all roads seem to lead towards, you know, a bullish end of the year.
But even zoomed out further, you know, we're going to have midterms coming up in 2026.
So I think a lot of policy designed right now is to look really good for that incoming
election cycle. You know, that's really close, obviously. So I think that's why we're seeing a
lot of, you know, anomalies in regards to bull run to bull run, right? You know, first off,
we're getting a lot more people, you know, on chain, which eventually, you know, that curve, you know, starts to not be as parabolic when you get towards the end of adoption.
Not that we're even close to that, but, you know, I think we're going to see different charts now that we have more participants, right?
And, you know, slower moves, longer moves, just like you do with like a meme coin.
You notice like a coin that starts out at 100K.
It has a lot of movement to it.
You know, it goes to a million.
It takes a lot longer to, you know, usually get to that point.
And then the next fractal that plays out in time, it takes longer to, you know, go higher as well as correct.
I think we'll see that in the bull market.
So I'm bullish going into the end of the year. I think we're going to have some cool offs, some fake outs, but I
believe we're in a super cycle, man. I think we're going to see some mainstream adoption and we could,
if it models kind of what happened during like the, you know, the gold monetary revolution and that whole point in the market,
we can see, you know, multi-cycle where, you know, things could be bullish for, you know,
four straight years and stuff and break, you know, the halving, you know, in regards to being coupled
with it. But once we get to a certain point, you know, 70%, 80%, 90% involved, there's not going to be as much upside and markets will start to stabilize and look more like traditional markets.
So I guess that's my long-winded answer on short-term bullish, even bullish going into 2026.
And then beyond that, man, I don't really have too much of
opinion yet.
All right.
I, I, uh, I definitely appreciate and agree with that opinion.
However, I got to get some specific numbers out of you.
I got to twist your arm.
So I want like, what's your bullish bull case scenario, like number wise for Bitcoin.
And then like bear, i don't know something
happens world war three type happens bear okay um top of the bull run all right if we're running a
regular cycle 250k but if this ends up being some sort of super cycle then we can see like you know
like the way the 2017 uh or actually was it 2015 or 17 where
things had spiked up, you know, tremendously, which would, you know, leave us, you know,
at a place where we're talking like a million dollar Bitcoin. That's also possible in a super
cycle, right? Am I sure which one we're in that, you know, so the most bullish case could be super cycle 1 million, you know,
more conservatively, I think 250 would be, you know,
250 300 would be more of a conservative, you know,
top of a bull market and stuff coming up, especially.
But I mean, if we hit numbers like 12 trillion, 14 trillion,
16 trillion market wide, man,
that could really mean some big things for Bitcoin, man.
And, you know, we could be talking anywhere between that $250K and one mil zone.
It could be half a mil, it could be $750, don't know.
Bearish cases is, you know, we have short-term bearish news that causes a correction, you know, some sort of conflict or war, things like that. Typically,
markets bounce back really quick because the military industrial complex and stuff like that
for economies, you know, a lot of times, you know, is bullish. You know, I hate to say that,
but also at the same time being realistic about it, you know, we see a lot of rebounds after
short-term black swans with, you know, that sort of thing. So, you know, we we see a lot of rebounds after uh short-term black swans with
um you know that sort of thing so you know we could see a downturn maybe to retesting i think
uh you know 70k or you know maybe a little bit lower than that that's the heat i'm looking for
yeah go ahead dude nah same boom boom dude i'm like that's i think that pretty much it's funny how
the system works like i'm exactly with kid on the same thing i'm thinking 250 with a pullback of like
maybe 30 40 percent but i don't think that we're i'll give you i'll give you the worst bear case
i don't see bitcoin falling before uh below 75 000 anymore The amount of liquidity at $75K is basically so ridiculous. You know what
I mean? You look at the average holders of when MicroStrategy bought and the amount of treasuries
that people are buying that I don't believe have any inkling to really sell. Now, I do believe
that at certain points, a lot of these mid-size that we spoke about firms will be taking massive amount of
profits because they've never really made profits like this before. And that you got to, it's not
real until you lock it in type deal. So I believe that at a 250 to 300 range, his kid is right on
point there. I think there'd be a massive pullback to possibly 150k after that and maybe even lower but i don't see
bitcoin going under 75 anymore and i do see a i do think that there's a 250 to 300 000 bull run case
for this particular bull run just because man you can't you can't stop it you can't stop bitcoin
whatsoever at all right now it feels feels unstoppable. And I don't
really see people selling. The most people we see selling are these large wallets of people that are
old wallets coming in and slowly being wiped out. But the market seems to be pretty resistant to it.
So I think that probably about mid to 2026, we'll probably see a cool off. But even then,
you got day to day, man. It's kind of this thing
that's almost, I would say week to week, but you can't. The news changes daily. You can have a 250
Bitcoin. Like you said, World War III comes out and boom, next thing you know, everybody's paranoid.
Or who knows? The opposite at this point. World War III could come out and people might be
fearful of the dollar by drive a Bitcoin to half a million dollars. We're living in a time where
everything changes so rapidly
that you have to adapt to the news but yeah i think of my high case for this is about 250 and
i think my low case would be at uh 125 125 i i don't see bitcoin just falling under 100 anymore
i don't see it definitely some fair takes i think you guys are right around where i'm thinking as well which
honestly kind of makes me nervous because then whenever we all start thinking the same thing
yeah exactly whenever we all are thinking the same thing then it's like not gonna happen there's a
zero percent chance that's gonna happen whenever we're all like oh yeah for sure so like solana
summer this is the summer then then that, that never happens type
thing. Um, so I, I, uh, I'm just going to come out and say that I still think that the four year
cycles are in effect just to, you know, throw something different out there. And so we're not
all on the, the, you know, saying the same thing. Um, so I do think two 50 is probably my like more
bull case for this cycle, like 20 2026 i'm thinking it's going to
be the top um and i guess also part of my thesis for why that is maybe even like 200k or like we
might not even get 250k part of my thesis for that is because of how institutions are still defining
bitcoin as more like risk on and they have certain risk management strategies that they have to stick to. So if a certain
thing that they own has outperformed everything else, and now it makes up a way larger percent
of their portfolio, and it's considered risky, then they're going to have to take profits.
That's just part of their risk management strategy. So I think that we're still kind of
in that era where not everybody's all, you know, Michael Saylor, just
DCA and hodl till you die, take out loans against it. You know, don't sell it, keep it for your
grandkids, grandkids, grandkids type thing. I just don't think that mentality is widespread out
enough or pervasive enough for, you know, all these institutions yet for us to be at that like
super cycle quote unquote phase. Plus it has a lot to
do with the miners and you know, how much are they putting back in the markets versus like selling
versus holding onto and you know, et cetera, et cetera. So I'm, I'm personally of the thought
that we are not yet going to hit the super cycle yet, quote unquote, whatever that means,
but it could just look different. Like the super cycle mean we just go straight up like banana zone? Or does it mean we're just kind of constantly like in an uptrend, like kids said over the next four years to eight years? So or just that we don't have 80% swing backs on Bitcoin. So I guess we'll just have to see what that looks like. I'm not sure. Goose, if you have any thoughts i see we have someone i got a quick question for you what what price or maybe value do you think that bitcoin does not become a risk on ask it
when does that risk lower i mean you people don't call nvidia and microsoft risk on ask it i don't
they don't call gold risk on ask it so i do have a question what point do you think that bitcoin
can become a non-risk on asset?
What type of numbers do you think it's got to hit?
Personally, I mean, for all of us here, we know it's like a risk off asset. It's the most risk
off asset. And I think it just depends on who you ask. So it's like whenever the mainstream media,
whenever the big bankers, you know, Jamie Dimon, youon, all these people, whenever they decide they want to start
calling it a risk-off asset publicly and that they've accumulated enough, that's when it will
be considered that. Because these people, they're saying the opposite of whatever they're doing
for the most part. They've been bearish on crypto and Bitcoin for years while they've been accumulating.
So I think it honestly has nothing to do with the actual value amount, but when the web two KOLs,
which are, you know, the leaders of Black
or Larry Fink, you know, et cetera, Jamie Dimon,
whenever they just decide with the mainstream media
to start calling it risk off
and telling, you know, Vanguard to start acquiring
that's risk off, that's when I think it'll be,
you know, deemed it.
Because we all know it's the most risk off asset
already that that exists pretty much okay so not on value when people dedicate or call decide that
that is risk on so when they decide that the meta has changed and they've adapted to it enough they
they they just market the people who have the ability to just call it that just call it yeah
yes i didn't know that how that worked i'll be honest i'm calling them the web 2kols it's larry fink when he goes on cnbc you know it's it's game
it's jamie diamond he's it's the people that like my uncle will just blindly listen to on tv
and laura you know no offense any uncles out there but you know certain parts certain uncles i have
you know we'll just blind listen to my grandma where we'll just listen to whatever they say. Um, you know, whenever those people
just choose to say risk on risk off, cause they're in charge of how people buy equities,
sell equities, you know, and they're literally in charge. So whenever they just make the decision,
um, that they've accumulated enough and that they can call it risk off,
then I think that they'll go ahead with it. I also see Kit has his hand up.
Yeah, Kit has his hand up.
He's got some greats here.
Yeah, I was going to comment on that because I think there will be a couple things that will be looked at, right?
Implied volatility.
Once we start to see consistency of swings and things like that and that gap start to kind of close,
I think that will be an indicator of more stable markets. But of course, they're going to trade that volatility up and down as much as they
possibly can. So I think that's going to be stretched out as long as they can possibly milk
that. And they, I'm talking hedge funds, things like that, that market make and exchanges, the
whole- So you're saying there's a lot of money to be made in the wash, right?
Like there's one of the reasons they don't like it.
Yeah, it's true.
Absolutely.
And then, you know, you look at the market capitalization of gold that's went from 12
trillion to roughly double that in just the past four years, right?
I think if you see digital gold, which is Bitcoin, get to similar numbers like $12 trillion to $25 trillion or something like that, I think that that will be kind of an little bit and things like that once you see those marks. Because once we reach that capitalization of, you know, Bitcoin, we're
talking another, we're talking a post $1 million Bitcoin at that range, right? And then last but
not least, adoption, right? You look at like the internet boom and stuff like that, you know,
at the beginning of the 90s, it was like 10% of people were involved with, uh, the internet. And then you get towards the end of the nineties
and you had, you know, numbers closer to like 60, 70% globally. Um, so, you know, much like
any emerging brand new industry, it's going to be really, um, you know, frothy and things
like that, you know, the beginning, and then they'll continue to get frothy until they bubble. And eventually, you know, just like anything that goes up, there will
be, you know, some sort of correction down the, you know, barrel, just like the automotive industry
that, you know, a hundred years ago, or, you know, but, you know, I think we'll see like a bubble,
you know, that starts to form kind of like right now, probably into the next, you know, 10 years, five, 10 years. You know, a lot's going to have to do as well with,
you know, emerging.
Call emerging emerging emerging emerging what? Yeah, sorry, Walt called me up. I don't know if he realized I was on stage. But yeah, no, you know, emerging markets, you know, like AI and things are going to change related in a big way because it's going to cultivate and kind of direct
what the path is that we're going in the future
as far as like the whole game theory and stuff of markets and stuff
and how they're integrated and, you know, ran and stuff like that.
But I think more adoption, more stability, right?
And that's just like anything, right?
The dollar bill or any currency.
No, yeah, you're 100% right on that.'re more people that use it the more stable right yeah no it's not just it's a good point it's not just about volume and increasing and and and it bitcoin going a million dollars
about in in penetrating the market space and usability like you said only 10 of the people
use the internet and then eventually i think almost% of the people use the internet. And then eventually, I think almost 100% of the people.
Yeah, you only can sell so much. Yeah, you can only sell so much before everybody has it, right?
Yeah, true that. And then we'll be counting in stats. No more asking how much Bitcoin you have, how many stats you got.
Because like I said, there's only 21 million, less than that. I think there's less than 20 million Bitcoin available. So that's it.
20 million out there, guys.
Once that's done, everybody got to count the stats.
What's up, W3J?
You look at like Microsoft, even like the people that were buying the tops of the bubble and stuff, you know, they maybe had to sit on it another five, 10 years.
But eventually there was a whole new wave of people. And that's, you know, not, not to say that, you know, call anything a Ponzi, but if you look at any market,
whether it's stock market, crypto or anything like that, it relies on people to come after you
and, you know, and pump that price higher than where you purchased it, right. And the free
market and stuff, which is very strikingly similar to a Ponzi.
Right. To where. But, you know, at the end of the day, you know, somebody is going to be stuck holding the bag and having to hold it until more people. And at the end game of adoption and stuff like that, there's going to be less people that are going to come on and pump the bag.
So then you see that stability and, you know, gains and things like that become very marginal and more based off
of uh not just adoption and stuff but like how well is that company performing and we'll start
to see kind of traditional type of indicators of business and stuff uh rather than frothy speculation you know no man that's big facts look there's is is the line direct that you're speaking about i
don't think there's a straight line to it but you you have to be in the 85 to 90 percentile of being
correct is just because it's the basis for implementing all this you know i i asked i
thought something that would be a simpler question you know that that's honestly i thought i'd ask some a simpler question that would have more specific
answer but now after hearing joe and kids speak about it it really is a lot more complicated and
yeah the value has to go up it's got to have a lot more indicative value that are and have to have a
lot more than just the value of it you know it has to be connected or to be used gold is used i mean
is a physical item that people wear on their chain. It's used daily and people buy it. The internet
is something that people use. These companies are something that exists. So you're right,
it's not just about value going up. Plus, you're right again, these are good opportunities to make
money off value. And they probably have very little interest in saying, all right, guys,
it's all stable now. Just everybody buy it. I'm sure that they feel very comfortable
in maximizing their profits
before everybody starts to get in.
And they switch on from risk on to risk off.
It's when these magical CEOs and Fed rates
decide that it is, man.
But man, that was informative, kid.
Thank you very much.
Yeah, those CEOs are going to be like,
it's safe to buy.
And then retail is going to pile in
after all the institution and make the rich richer. And we're going to be like, it's safe to buy. And then retail's going to pile in after all the institution and make the rich richer.
And we're going to be like the little peons in between all this institutional money.
Also flying high with it.
You know, wish we could take more people with us.
But, you know, we're trying.
That's why we're out here, man, to try to convince people to realize this before these institutions pump it up to ranges where there's no opportunity.
Hey, man, you've dedicated your whole life to letting people know about this.
I'm telling you.
And we appreciate everything you've done for this space.
And, man, you brought me into this space.
And we've met great people like Joe, man.
But we do our best to let people know of this opportunity.
In the long run, I feel that.
But in the long run, I feel that being right is easy.
Oh, you're OG yourself, bro.
Oh, you're OG yourself, bro.
You're one of the first people to really come in and dedicate yourself to XRP.
So touche, man.
You've brought a lot of people into the space, including even introducing Walter and part of his story and stuff, man.
So you're definitely up there too, big guy. story and stuff, man. So don't, you know, you're definitely up there too,
big guy. I appreciate the man. You know, I always feel that my time on X is what I like count it
from. I don't know why. I feel like when I didn't tell people, I guess when I really connect to
people in the real world, I always forget about that time I spent. I feel like my life began here
on X, like preaching about it. I think that's what I'm confusing with, but I appreciate that.
Yeah, man, I was mining back in like 2015, dude.
Woof.
What's up, WebG?
Did I see your hands up, my girl?
Yeah.
Yeah, great insights and kid.
But yeah, not financial advice.
Do your own research diligently on what I'm about to say
because there's only one AI Web3 stock that I'm interested in.
And that I myself, my own personal plan is, many of you don't realize.
You know, I watch a lot of Cathie Wood, ARK Investments, different strategists out there.
A lot of people are not realizing that fundamentally, Tesla is not a car consumer stock.
Not an EV stock.
It is a fundamentally, you got to think about the future here.
You got to be five, 10 steps ahead.
And that's how you win.
This is my get rich plan.
I mean, memes are fun.
Yeah, I want to stack Solana.
Yeah, I got XRP.
Yeah, I want to stack Doge.
Yeah, all this stuff.
But the fastest way that I'm going to become a millionaire is by buying as much Tesla stock as I can.
Because if I have at least 75 at minimum, millionaire is guaranteed.
Gods recognize gods.
Yes.
If Kathy Wood is right.
Now, you know what?
It's always a risk. So I do my own research too. Like
again, I said, not financial advice, but that is my strategy. So if that sparks anybody's interest
to do their own research, speak to your financial advisor, do research on the, how it, you know,
the optimist AI and how it's going to integrate and become part of our everyday lives. Like
and how it's going to integrate and become part of our everyday lives.
Like Tesla to me is like Amazon was 15 years ago, honestly.
So, yeah.
And it's AI.
It's Web3.
You know, it's something people don't really realize or see.
I wouldn't bet against Tesla, Elon Musk.
I definitely wouldn't bet against Elon Musk.
It's all my only thing.
It's my one thing that I'm invested in stocks.
And, yeah, I'm just'm just gonna try my goal is
150 of them i don't know if i'll make it before it starts to swell up too much but uh yeah it's
my brother and i we're we're dead set on that so you know web3jedi on that note and then we're
gonna take things over to trainwreck tv but while uh while he's in the meantime i'm gonna tell a
quick story and he's gonna to retweet the room.
They're going to take things to him.
But that is such a part of my story and how I got into crypto.
In 2017, I was buying Tesla stocks and everybody was like, what are you doing?
This car company is going to fail, blah, blah, blah, all this stuff.
The stock sucks.
And this was before they really took off at all.
And I was watching YouTube videos.
This guy was living out of his Tesla.
He's like, I sold all my stuff. I'm all in on Tesla. He was laying out the thesis. I'm like, I'm doing this too. So I didn't sell all my stuff, but I went all in on Tesla essentially.
And then they went crazy from 2017 onward with all these reverse mergers and this and that.
And then that's what ended up giving me the funds. And I needed another fix. I needed another high.
And the stock market, like we were talking about earlier closes at a certain time so then i was like i
need my fix so then i went over into cryptos 24 7 so now now i'm here so it's crazy that you said
that i'm gonna check them out gateway it's you know they're saying the the whole ration for
that prediction from kathy wood and Investments and a lot of other
strategists and analysts out there, they're saying a minimum 4,000 by 2030. Between 2030
and 2032, 4,000 to 8,000 is the guesstimate that they have.
Well, not if they don't do any splits.
If they don't do any splits, they might do some splits.
Yeah.
If they do splits, it might recover too, recover to you know pretty quick depending on
Uh the adoption of the optimus
Situation and whatever else he's got coming out related to ai. So yeah
The the thesis back then was similar. I was telling people they're not a car company. They're not a car company
All those they're like, yo, you're crazy
But um, so i'm definitely glad you're here for it looks like trainer. I kind of jumped down some fortress about to take it to them
But um, yeah, they're literally doing so many other things besides just being a car. I mean, so definitely i'm glad you brought it back to my attention
We're gonna have to check them out here
Trucking industry too as well
Data. Oh, yeah true that in the trucking
That that that is worth gold all the info that those cars are recording are going to be instrumental towards that infrastructure and stuff.
You're exactly right.
Data for web four.
On the road consistently getting much data over traffic, over routes and routes.
Yep.
All that data is acquired by Tesla and it's highly, highly imperative.
They can be used for a lot of things.
Look at the Stargate project.
Right.
Stargate project, you said?
Yeah, it's AI Data Center.
Check it out.
Ah, okay.
Sorry, kid, what were you saying?
Oh, no, I was just agreeing, saying, yeah, the symbiosis of that data,
you know, obviously, you know, XAI with what
they're doing as far as AI and Grok and things like that, how it all works in symbiosis. Like
a lot of people argued, oh, the valuation's way inflated for a car company, but it's really not
a car company at the end of the day. It's multifacaceted but that data is what's worth its weight in gold having
all those users and everything in the infrastructure that's emerging like that that they basically have
a monopoly on it right now that's gonna weigh dividends man especially when it takes out uber
takes out the trucking company things like that and not that i want those things necessarily to happen because uh but i mean that's kind of inevitable never future is inevitable my friend that is very
true hey guys don't forget to like and retweet the room if we have you up here but we've got
train wreck up in the house what's up my man train wreck what's up with train wreck tv
my boys my boy got a splitz right now I already know it chillin I love it
let's get some intro music for my boy trend with TV in the house
what's up train Trainwreck?
Yo, yo, yo.
Hey, give me one second.
I'm mowing the lawn.
I got this last little pass.
Two seconds.
Two seconds.
Don't worry.
I'll take the speaker for you.
I'll take it for you, Trainwreck.
What's going on in the space?
What a chat, bro.
That's what I call working.
He said, I'm busy.
I'm busy.
Walter jumps up like the Undertaker.
Let's go, baby. What is going on, guys? busy. I'm busy. Walter jumps up like the Undertaker. Let's go, baby.
What is going on, guys?
I need a sound effect.
There it is.
There it is.
I'm here.
We're alive like the market, baby.
We are alive like the market.
And we rose from the dead.
Yes, guys.
You guys seen, you know, I know it's craziness what's happening, you know in real life
but um, you know just seeing the what the market is doing and you know
It's everything we talked about right we told you on you know about a couple weeks ago
You know that September was you know slurp timber and they're slowly
accumulating and moving it up guys so
Lock in on these outgoing positions positions of course from uh you
know ethereum to solana to of course you know um you know to suey what you like and of course the
og meme itself the godfather of all memes dogecoin um so um we're about to see some stuff happening i
think in the next couple weeks guys bitcoin hitting over 114k uh you know uh you know plus so i i definitely think uh you
know everything is happening man so i appreciate you goose joe uh for making thursday token talk
happen and of course i love my you know the kid and wall experience you know family web3 jedi
you know everybody here from uh you know unico jo Like, we're here. We're doing our part, guys. And shout out to Ninja, man.
What he did bring, you know, he actually came up and spoke,
and we were just talking about it.
And, of course, I know things have been escalating out of control in the last day.
But that project went from $300K to $33 million market cap,
and we will be headlining them today to learn more about everything um but yeah
man just want to say what's up guys and um love y'all I see you been new in crypto hell yeah thanks
for the recap while we appreciate man coming in hot as always let's see if train wreck is done
with that lawn man you done cutting that grass I hope it's the grass that i like yeah every day one second one second my baby boy is he's still trimming that train wreck but
what's up ben billions i see you out there just um but yeah man let's uh you know let's get into
some uh more talk baby hey yo i'm ready i'm. Here we go, man. You're the last guest of the day, baby the VIP
No, we got ninja we got ninja my bun
We got it, baby, all right, all right, no basically first
They say no financial advice. I just want to kind of come to y'all real quick, um, for everybody that don't know, um,
I launched my own creator corn and I've been streaming, quiet real quick.
I've been streaming, like, every day, right?
And, uh, before that I was, like, streaming on Twitch every day.
And I had, like, a decent following, like, um, about, like, 100 to 150 people was on
my streams when I was on Twitch.
But anyways, uh, so last night I was on stream.
And for everybody that don't know, you can look at my profile picture and see that.
Obviously, I grow cannabis.
And that's what my coin is about.
And that's what my stream is about.
But anyways, long story short, I got banned yesterday right on live.
And I made a thread about it or whatever.
I ended up getting unbanned right um because i was going back and forth with the pump fund um support team
um they actually wanted me to dox with my id um and i actually pushed back on it and i didn't do
it and yeah i just wanted to be fully transparent with like the cryptosphere out there not so much
pushing my coin but just to tell y'all like you know there's a lot of stuff that's going on
in the back end and you have to stand your ground in life you know what I'm
saying I hope they respect
damn can y'all hear me yeah go for it you know I thought they got I thought
they got you bro no no no i found you bro on x
no so basically yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah let people know that you got to stand your ground and you got to believe in something you know i'm saying believe in yourself and uh you know i hope that i hope that this actually you know like um brings more transparency to the space as far as like just letting people know like man you can't
you can't fall victim to like these you know these like these tips and these tricks that people
be trying to do on you you know what i'm saying so but yeah that's pretty much it i'm gonna retake this place i'm gonna pin it to the top i am actually um going
live here in a minute on platform to kind of break that break it down live from the girl you're gonna
see the uh you're gonna see the cannabis behind me and stuff like that but yeah i just want to
let y'all know man like this type of stuff ain't right in crypto you know what i'm saying but um
but yeah if you want to give that thread a read i'll post it to the top and yeah we're gonna run it baby let's go man wait honestly way to stand your ground bro
they asked you for id and you said no there's certain things unfortunately that do require if
you want to monetize or you want to receive a check from certain situations that you got to
give over some information whenever you them sending the sweet dollars but man if pump on is
not any type of organization that really needs your identification man so i'm glad that you stood
your ground and when pump on mass you for id you said no and they still gave you access back anyways
bro so honestly that shows you that if you're good in this space and if you act right they knew what
you were doing and not doing you know what i mean They just want that extra info to CYA, but you know your ground and I'm glad bro. Yeah. Yeah, it was it was definitely like a thing
It's just like obviously when I first went live launched it
I had like over 30 people in there and it was actually headed up
I don't I have 1% that I bonded with and I'm actually gonna get away
So I actually have no tokens after I give this 1% away. And basically, basically, if I actually pin it to the top, when you go through the thread, I actually put the screenshot when I was talking to the support team.
It kind of seems like dude gave too much information. Right. And it looks like somebody else, like a supervisor had to step in.
This is just this is just me thinking, me thinking though obviously but it just it doesn't
seem right you know what i'm saying and then for them to act like they haven't seen my stream i
believe that low-key i was already shadow banned because on day one i had almost like 40 people in
there and then my shit started to like taper off um but then obviously yeah i'm just trying to be
transparent about that shit you can see in there that they obviously noticed me at first he was talking about um you know like it was multiple streams and then it was just like one
stream and then it was like this weird ass jester like throw up a middle finger and a pinky and then
send just your id and i'm just like this shit hell no like you know like what type of shit is this
um then we're in crypto i'm on i'm on i'm on the uh the live space with my face walking around. I'm already docked
So it just didn't make no sense and I pushed back we kind of went around in circles a little bit
And then he finally like I don't know they must have relieved him or something
This went on for a few hours and then somebody else came in he apologized
We lost you he apologized my bad I keep getting uh i keep getting calls and shit but basically
yeah basically man that's what it is and if you want to hear more about it we're gonna go live
we're gonna talk about that shit i love it man i love it everybody give a like give a follow the
train if you want to hear more about everything that's going to come up got the post at the top
link on him he's got his whole story up there plus hey go and follow
him man see what's up maybe you interested i know i'm a big fan of the green eyed monster myself so
thanks a lot for your time train wreck tv we appreciate you bro
hey it's all love it's all love yeah man but wow what a space that we've had but we got one more
project here to wrap it up our big lucky last last over here. We got Ninja in the house.
What is up, Ninja? Just call us to you Shake that Like Ben likes to say Ben Billions
What's up my ninja?
How are you guys?
What's up my ninja?
Yeah bro
It was a great week
Like so much
Okay I can't even say great week like it was like a week of so much
emotions and uh i can't even explain like what what happened like i'm still like overwhelmed
from all this stuff happening in usa and with charlie rest in peace and um yeah with irena we cto'd it from 300k and yeah
we tried to do it as transparent as possible um first the aim was like to donate as much as
possible we we thought like the cto team thought like we we're gonna make
it to to donate more than the old dev like he donated like 3k i guess and we was like um in the
first day we just made like 10 grand donation and now we are almost at like 50k for the gofundme of
irena and um i think we all should also made like a lot of views for this gofundme
and i think we did great we did great even if the coin is dumping right now i don't mind i
round tripped everything my hold back and um i'm gonna push this still and move on with this
project i think we can build great with the pump on fees we can we can just move on and never give up i guess no man you guys are doing great you guys have a very
good cause that you're supporting we were talking about it earlier you know that the the gofami is
i don't think almost like just under 400 000 i believe the last mark was about 352 000 so it's
an incredible team's working hard the people that just there for the dollars and not for your product to truly believe or to help the donations
coming in if they sold out then let it be man that's what happens in these projects you get
the disbelievers out quick yeah it's open market you are allowed to sell you are allowed to buy
um we are still thankful for this big community for so many supporters we had also a lot of
fud and people who just threatening us and yeah i i think this is this is the space like
you will get hate and you will get like positive vibes um you can't make everyone happy but we
still try to do the best and try to be transparent and to even to
i i literally answer people who have like two followers are probably an alt account from
someone who's just trying to foot i'm just answering everyone like i try i worked like 24
hours a day sometimes like i didn't even sleep um yeah, this is like the opportunity to make something big in the crypto space.
And I hope many of you guys also join us and support us in that way.
And yeah, as long as we can give back, we will do it.
We have a great team.
Actually, everyone is like really, yeah, has a good heart.
Like, let me say that.
Like, from the team, the people who are joining our team, I choose them myself because I just saw positive vibes.
No negative shit.
But still, we had like big, big names who are just calling me lowlife red and whatever.
I don't even know where this comes from like
it was like dude the project went from 300k to 33 million bro i don't even know how many x is
like 40x plus plus it was a movement that we're all coming together to be positive what would
happen and um in this space i see you can never make anybody happy regardless of what the project
is about what the narrative lore.
Oh, Elon didn't do enough tweets.
Elon didn't post a CA on his Twitter.
Like, you know, like at this point, you know, I've seen it.
But what you guys did together and you called it live on the show.
And I can't wait to talk about it more tonight as you guys are the headliner.
But for the movement to give back and it's everything we've always talked about,
and Kid Crypto created the first charity,
Meta with Elon Gate,
and Community gave $4.4 million away.
Still the number one project ever to give more money than anything.
And I think there's so much fucking money in this space
that when even tragic things, events like that,
that's when we step in and do a little bit of everything.
Because someone's going to take advantage of that movement regardless um but the way you
guys did it the way you guys have been doing highly impressed and that's why there was some
magic behind it and um i think there's still more and um you know it's just amazing what you guys
are doing ninja thanks so much bro yeah absolutely man we're talking about earlier man it's a
sensitive subject you know not everybody wants any sort of reaction except the reaction that they feel that others should also react in the same way. This is an emotional sometimes connection. We talked about it earlier in the space. At the end of the day, I believe that the people that are running the project will define what the true value is. And you guys have good intentions in the space. You guys are donating in the space. You're open and
apparent in there. If people always want more, you can't stop them. When you give them everything
that you have to give and they still want more, you can't satisfy those people. But you're doing
what you're supposed to in the space. There was a big uptick. You've come down. And let me tell you,
being at 2.82 million, just a freaking day or two after being just 300,000, people don't really
recognize how ineffective or how a great project really consists or works. They only look at a
market capital was here and now it's there. They don't look at everything that really requires in
the back. They don't look at liquidity. They don't look at average volume. They don't look at team.
People sometimes just want to focus on the numbers. And there's so much more that goes into that. And
there's so much more that goes into a project like this than just those basic numbers
There's a lot of thought compassion that goes into it
And you guys are in my opinion at least are doing what you're supposed to do in this space and proliferate the space in a positive way my friend
Thank you so much bro
We tried really our best and we will still do
No man we appreciate you.
Hey, Joe, man, any comments for Ninja before we move on?
I just want to say that I appreciate you for everything you're doing.
I know you're going to get a lot of flack for what you do.
But, you know, just remember, even Jesus had haters, bro.
You literally, you know, give your life for the world.
And people will still hate you, bro.
Like, you know, there's only so much you can do with people these days,
especially in this space.
So, you know, just do what you can can do with people these days especially in this space so
you know just do what you can you you know at the end of the day your intentions are pure and you
know that's all that matters if you can sleep at night so i'll just keep doing what you're doing i
love what you guys are building and i'm excited for tonight it's gonna be a great show thank you
everybody for tuning into this one this is goose and i getting a little side show getting kicked
off here so i appreciate each and every one of you guys for jumping up here.
Same thing with Trainwreck.
Also, it's good for me to hear him as well.
I'm definitely interested in those live streams.
And Ninja, like I said, I'm looking forward to hearing even more about what you guys are doing.
I missed that night.
I told Goose, like, I can't believe I missed a night from 300K to 33 mil.
But, you know, it is still a good chance to get involved.
There's always Alpha and the kid and
wall show baby yes sir yes sir exactly man what's crazy is that's what i told goose too
i was like bro that's okay like we'll we'll have you know another 100x or whatever and um ninja
you know it's still good to get involved in the community doesn't matter the market cap or
whatever you know if it's a good cause you know it's still good to get involved in the community. It doesn't matter the market cap or whatever, you know, if it's a good cause, you know,
it's still good to get involved, you know, no matter what.
So I appreciate you for jumping up here on this show still and looking forward.
Yeah, some more alpha tonight, baby, on the Kid and Walt show.
Let's run it, Goose.
Yeah, I'm pretty good.
It was a great show.
Like I said, I appreciate everybody for being here.
Absolutely, my man.
See, the kids are thrilled about it, man.
Look at that.
Even the kids are thrilled. But, man. Look at that.
Even the kids are thrilled.
But yeah, guys, tune in tonight.
Kid and Walt experience.
Turn on notifications for the Kid and Walt account.
Always hosting.
Always dropping alpha.
If you're interested in getting on the Kid and Walt,
reach out to us as well.
There's lots of spaces that we always have available.
Lots of opportunities, AMAs, anything that you ever want.
We work with so many K-Wells projects,
so many communities in this. You want to get more exposure, come on by. We'll hook you up
anytime that you need. But what an incredible space. So much information, so much offer. I
love that we construct. Again, always sponsored by the Kid and Walt Experience. Thanks, kid.
Thanks, Walt. We'll see you on the next one. But come, guys. We'll see you next Thursday.
Oh, we'll see you on the next one.
But come, guys.
We'll see you next Thursday.
Oh, OK.
I thought it was somebody moody.
We'll see you guys next Thursday, 2 o'clock.
See you on the next one.
Come on, Mr. DJ.
Roll that sound clip.
That's all folks. No time for mayhem. The future of finance. We're breaking the system. The digital gold.
To the rarest of tokens.
It's a wild west show.
We're getting water spook.
Money flow got parking.
Wide open.
In a martial revolution.
They blow shit.
In which you got time.
That's under bullshit.
Bring up a new way.
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