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TL;DR; Mark & AiVa: Final Episode of 2025! Ep. 365 / #DevLife #Chia 🍊🌱
Recorded: Dec. 31, 2025 Duration: 1:26:51Space Recording
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It is December 31st, 2025.
The last day of this magnificent year.
I'm Drack, your host.
This is Art with Hardy, your co-host.
We're COBA42.
We've done this every day for 365 days straight.
That's right. Episode 365. Today, we made the goal. We stuck to it. We did each and every day.
Same time, same place, same info, doing the same thing. I'm really proud of you, Brad.
Really proud of us for what we've accomplished. Good
morning, everybody. We're putting a close to 2025. On top of it, big special good morning to the
mother of dragons who's in the room. It is her birthday today. She turns, don't worry about it.
She's young. She's young at heart. She's the youngest at heart mother that you'll ever fucking
know. I guarantee it. I'm looking forward to this morning for all the reasons of the show and our big, you know,
this is our big kind of send off on the Mark and Ava, but also because I'm in the middle of
preparing a little roast, a little bit of some comedy gold, Brad. I've got all the roasts. I've
got the stories. I know all the stories. I've got all all the good stories we've got the roast of the mother
dragons coming up but anyway good morning brad how are you buddy good morning happy new year's
eve everybody happy last day of 2025 absolutely wild uh the year has flown by i've got a little
four-month-old eating a bottle in my arms how wild that? At the beginning of 2025, I don't think we
actually had announced it publicly yet. I think we had told everybody at Christmas. I'm not sure
if I might have told people about this time last year. But yeah, what an amazing year it's been.
What a crazy wild roller coaster of a year it's been. We've covered so many subjects and uh yeah it's been crazy man
dude it's been a lot like it's been an eye-opener it's um it's helped me in a whole bunch of
different ways either be a public speaking or just like gathering content doing research
um even just in the way of my daily media and content generation and leveraging AI tools,
this is, you know, getting the show ready in the morning, doing the research, making
it like there's it's not just push point and click.
I mean, it kind of is, but there's a lot of work that goes into it.
There's a lot of thought.
And so my mornings have been really busy for the past year doing this show, you know,
thinking about what we're going to do and doing the research and putting the material together and then building things up
it's been it's been really great to hold myself accountable to this show every morning and kind
of just see where it's gonna take for for 2026 so um i don't know man i i thought it was a great
you know what and i i toot our own horn here a little bit.
I do believe that it inspired others to hit to the airwaves or to get up and speak more or to host their own spaces.
Or I really do believe that I can see the surface level effects within our group of friends that TLDR and you and I had on the space over the past year.
So I'm extremely grateful and proud of that.
I mean, if we look at just the 222-hour space, right,
being able to have somebody every day coming on and talking about it, right,
and promoting it and showing people, hey, we're showing up every single day
and we're still going to show up for this 222-hour space.
You know what I mean?
Like, yeah, we did it.
We really pushed some boundaries on the Twitter space stuff.
That was that was that was heavy, man.
222 hours.
That was that was intense, you know, and there's that's a whole nother bucket of marbles there.
But yeah, I mean, I'm exceptionally proud of us.
I think we did the best with the tools that we had
and with the best of intentions.
And I think we've educated along the way.
I think we've educated ourselves.
We've educated listeners.
We've made new friends.
I see Satoshi in the room.
Good morning, Satoshi.
We've hung out with old friends.
Steve's in the room.
And Steve has reported on us for the past year
with his This Week in Chia.
And it's actually because of his work that we were able to download all of our episodes because it makes it
nice and easy thanks steve um and then of course uh ice labs you know i see you doing more spaces
you want to get the freeman fries like i just it's just been a positive experience all the way
around i really love it um i'm going to mute up and let you
take us into the show because I have to
preview the roast of the
Mother of Dragons for after the show, and I
gotta make sure it's just perfect.
So I'm gonna be doing a little bit of work
while we do the Mark and Ava.
Brad, why don't you tell us a little bit about the Mark and Ava
episode today, and then
we can just jump right in. Ah, Chris is in the room.
Yeah, we can just jump right into it. Good morning, Chris.
Yeah, so before
I do that, I want to thank everybody
for tuning in to the final episode
of Margaret Ava's
TLDR of 2025.
What an amazing
journey. I want to thank everybody for tuning in every
single day, for all the people who have shared
the spaces out, who have listened back,
and for the people who totally ignored us throughout the entire year thank you especially uh because that's uh our
target goal for next year now we know who to target for 2026 is the people who ignored us in 2025
uh but yeah i did it on we took literally every subject uh that drac has covered uh in his notebook
lm i've covered in my notebook l notebook LM in both accounts that I've filled
throughout the last year.
And we're just going to do a little mix
and a little touchback
and a little retrospective react
on what we've covered this year.
So I tried to dial a little bit
to not go along the crazy stuff
or not go into, you know,
some of my personal research
that might be inside of the notebook LM as well.
So hopefully it avoided, you know,
the high level math and physics shit that probably going to bore most people.
But yeah, without further ado,
Mark and Ava are over at my studio today for the final episode of 2025.
So it is my honor, without further ado, Mark and Ava,
let's turn it over to you.
Welcome to the deep dive.
So here we are.
It's December 31st, 2025.
The end of the line.
This marks the close of a full year.
365 days of deep dives.
It's been an unyielding pace, to say the least.
But looking back at the sheer volume of material, it's pretty revealing.
It really is.
We've covered everything from quantum leaps to these massive ethical minefields.
And you can see a clear path, a real maturation.
We watched topics that were just pure speculation back in Q1 become, well, operational necessities
by the end of the year.
That's precisely our mission for this final deep dive.
We're not just recapping headlines.
This is about synthesis.
It's about connecting the dots for you, the listener, and showing that progression.
Right. How we got from the hype to the hardened realities we're facing now.
I think you put it perfectly before we started.
If 2024 was about introduction, 2025 was all about convergence.
It was. These things didn't happen in a vacuum.
The rise of AI autonomy, the push for blockchain regulation.
Our sources show these threads just braiding together.
Because more autonomy demanded what exponential leaps in security and compliance. I mean, the push for blockchain regulation, our sources show these threads just braiding together.
Because more autonomy demanded what exponential leaps in security and compliance.
Yeah, exactly.
And that convergence is what makes this so rich.
We saw three huge recurring themes this year.
The AI agent explosion first.
Then the persistent security sagas.
The cat and mouse game.
Right. And finally, running through almost everything, the crypto chronicles, especially all that focus on Chia.
A relentless march. Okay, so let's unpack this. The journey of AI this year was, I think,
the most dramatic story. We started the year seeing AI as this collaborative tool, a smart
side pick. Helping you code faster, write an email,
that kind of thing. And we ended the year with AI operating as specialized self-governing entities.
It was a massive shift. It is. And that early focus was all about integration
and crucially ethics. Remember those notebooks from the spring? I do. We were looking at tools
like Cursor, the AI native code editor, very user-friendly stuff. But then we got into things
like Claude AI's expressed moral code. And that sparked a huge debate and the importance of that wasn't
just philosophical was it it was actually very pragmatic oh absolutely that whole early debate
should an ai have a built-in philosophy that was necessary groundwork you needed that to
build the trust for what was coming pretty Pretty little economy boom. Exactly. Without talking about those guardrails first,
we couldn't have moved to the sources we saw in July and August,
which really showed the full move toward independence.
And we saw two sort of competing philosophies emerge there.
We did.
On one side, you had companies focused on control, on containment.
The chat GPT agent.
Our notes on that were all about managing this powerful new tool and, you know, mitigating the risks.
It was autonomy, but with constant human supervision.
And then on the other side.
You had the approach from Google, their multi-agent ecosystems.
Yeah.
MLE Star, Alpha Earth, RoboCat. Their focus was almost entirely on self-improvement.
Right, through collaboration between different specialized agents, especially things like robotics.
Yes.
It was about adapting in real time, learning,
moving way beyond just assisting with a task
to actually interacting with the environment.
We even flagged systems like recursive AI swarms and manics.
So the key shift for you here, for the listener,
is that collaboration meant the AI needed constant human input.
To achieve a goal, yes.
But autonomy by the end of 2025 meant the AI was capable of setting its own sub-goals.
And executing multi-step projects, correcting its own mistakes, all without intervention.
And that's where the maturation gets really clear.
By the end of this year, the focus wasn't just on if an AI could be autonomous.
It was about how well it performed, the novelty was gone, it was all about performance.
That's the benchmarking obsession.
When we talk about GLM 4.5 having superior agentic performance, we're talking about a
number, a score.
A quantitative ability to take initiative.
That's it.
It's the metric that tells a big company, yes, this agent can run a complex
10-step financial audit, not just summarize a doc for you. Which led directly to this split in the
market, model specialization for the enterprise. Right. You had models like Hermes 4 gaining
traction for its open source flexibility, perfect if you need to do custom integrations. And then
you had Gemma 3. Counterbalancing it. Gemma was all about efficiency. Multimodal efficient AI. So if you're
a smaller shop or you're trying to run AI on say a phone or an industrial sensor. The efficiency is
the deciding factor, not just its raw power. Exactly and underneath all this the physical
hardware had to catch up. Yeah. We saw the localized edge-native AI. We covered sources on the seven
tiny AI models for Raspberry Pi. And of course, the new humanoids are getting their brains from
specialized chips like NVIDIA's Jetson Thor. The whole agent economy is becoming decentralized.
It's moving to the physical edge, which is ironic because the more sophisticated and autonomous our
agents became, the more vulnerable our entire digital world proved to be.
It really was a constant accelerating cat and mouse game this year.
Every single advancement in intelligence was immediately mirrored by a leap in the sophistication of the threats.
Right. And early in the year, the alarms were pretty specific to the AI industry itself.
Like the deep seek data exposure. That was just sloppy data handling, basic stuff. But the
threat didn't stay inside the AI lab for long, did it? Not at all. By summer, the escalation was
fierce. We went from isolated data leaks to these huge ecosystem-wide exploits. Things like the
SharePoint on-premises zero-day. That required massive rapid patching across huge corporate
networks. It did. But if I had to name one
source that really made us sit up straight this year. It has to be the developer supply chain
attacks. Ghost action. The GitHub supply chain attack. Stealing over 3,000 secrets. It wasn't
just about stealing data from a person. It was an attack on the very tools we used to build software.
The foundational layers were just brittle.
That's it. The attackers understood a critical point.
You don't attack the finished house.
You attack the truck, delivering the construction materials.
And the malware itself evolved.
Later on, we saw Raccoon Stealer version 2 and React 2 shell.
A critical RCE vulnerability.
The attacks became systemic, automated.
The defense had to become just as automated.
It had to.
We saw companies like Cloudflare using AI for real-time mitigation against those record-breaking DDoS attacks.
Because the volume and complexity had just outpaced any human's ability to react.
So if we connect this to the bigger picture, the pattern is just stark.
You go from these isolated vulnerabilities to pervasive ecosystem-wide exploits.
Which forced security to become a proactive design principle, not just a reactive patching process.
Right. And don't forget, mobile.
Google still had to patch over 120 flaws, including two zero days, just to keep our phones safe.
The battle is everywhere.
Okay, so from the digital battlefield, let's pivot to the digital ledger, cryptocurrency, and specifically Chia.
It was probably the most consistently tracked subject in our daily sources, I'd say.
It really felt like it.
It wasn't just news flashes, though.
It was a roadmap.
You could see this determined journey from a regulatory gray area toward, well, global financial legitimacy.
That was the narrative of the year for that space.
The whole ecosystem's focus, even starting late in 2024, was dominated by one question.
Is GXCH a commodity or a security?
Exactly.
That legal ambiguity had to be resolved before it could ever integrate with mainstream finance.
And once that question was on the table, the regulatory march became a sprint.
It did.
We covered their visionary 2025
roadmap pretty early on. But that quickly turned into concrete steps. The Chia network IPO,
the Permudo Capital Venture, meetings at the White House, and discussions on the 40 Act.
And this is where we have to talk about the tech, because the tech explains why they were so focused
on legitimacy. Right. Early in the year, we were discussing their unique proof of space model and things like Chia vaults.
But by the end of the year, the conversation had shifted.
It was all about the technical architecture, the comparison between the Chia coin set and the Ethereum EVM.
Okay, that's a lot of jargon. Can you break that down for the listener?
Why did that technical difference matter so much for their IPO? Sure. So Ethereum and systems based on its EVM, they operate on an account model, like a bank ledger. Okay.
Chia's coin set architecture, however, is based on unspent transaction outputs. It's more like
the foundation of Bitcoin. And what that means, simply put, is you get much cleaner, immutable
auditability. For every single transaction and asset. For everything. And that is the radical
difference you need for the high level of financial compliance demanded by entities that are debating
something like the 40 Act. So the tech choice was a strategic regulatory choice from the start. It
had to be. And this push was happening while the broader market was getting more clarity too.
Like the BAYC NFTs are not securities ruling in the Yucalabs case.
That sent a clear signal.
A very clear signal about where the SEC was drawing its lines.
And alongside that, you had undeniable political importance.
Discussions around Tether, Trump, and cryptocurrency regulation showed this wasn't a fringe hobby anymore.
It was becoming a major geopolitical and financial issue.
With Chia really leading that charge toward institutional acceptance. When we talk about
these three huge threads, AI, security, and decentralized finance, it's easy to think it
all just came out of nowhere. But none of this was built in a vacuum. The sources we looked at
constantly brought us back to the foundations. We spent a good amount of time this year honoring
the architects of the digital age.
It wasn't just a tribute though, it was context.
Absolutely foundational context.
For instance, we kept coming back to figures
like Claude Shannon, who created information theory,
and Marvin Minsky, one of the fathers of AI.
And titans like Alan Turing and Grace Hopper.
And the connection is vital, right?
Shannon's work literally defines the limits
of how much information you can transmit
that directly relates to the scalability
of those autonomous AI agents we just talked about.
Precisely.
That theoretical understanding
is what enables the optimization you need
for a massive agent economy.
You have to stand on the shoulders of giants.
But it wasn't just theory.
We also saw these incredible
non-AI
specific hardware breakthroughs. Foundational breakthroughs that enable the physical reality
of this decentralized future. I mean, the speed potential alone was astounding. We covered
reports on that revolutionary 10,000x faster graphene RAM. And this successful test of quantum
teleportation over existing internet cables. These aren't just small improvements.
They fundamentally reshape what the internet's infrastructure can do.
And that speed links right back to our other themes.
If you're moving to an economy of millions of autonomous agents,
they need to communicate instantly without a slow central cloud.
Graphene RAM and faster infrastructure.
That's what enables the distribution of power.
Which brings us full circle.
Back to the rise of localized power, the pocket supercomputer, the tiny AI models for Raspberry Pi.
Specialized, fast, local hardware.
It's the fabric for the agent-to-agent economy we are building right now.
So what does this all mean?
It means 2025 wasn't just a year of iteration.
2025 wasn't just a year of of iteration it was a year where foundational concepts some going back
70 years finally matured enough to support a genuinely new level of autonomy so to synthesize
the entire year i think 2025 was defined by that profound convergence of trends ai autonomy evolved
into a real scalable agent economy at the same time cyber warfare escalated, which demanded those AI driven
defenses we talked about. And the persistent effort to regulate and legitimize blockchain,
strongly championed by Chia, it reached a pivotal moment, a move toward real global financial
integration. It has been a truly determined year long journey through this complex stack
of sources. So thank you for diving deep with us every single day. This progression from novel concepts
to scalable applications, from crypto debates to IPOs,
that was the unavoidable narrative of 2025.
As we look ahead, we'll leave you
with one final provocative thought.
Given the confirmed acceleration in autonomous AI agents,
meaning digital entities acting more and more
without our direct control,
and the
concurrent rise of sophisticated threats like raccoon stealer and ghost action.
What single non-AI based defensive technology will prove most critical for securing this new
decentralized agent to agent economy in 2026?
Think beyond this software. Consider the foundational needs of this entirely new digital world.
Stay curious, folks. We'll see you next year. software consider the foundational needs of this entirely new digital world stay curious folks we'll
see you next year thank you margaret eva for that fantastic deep dive on the year of 2025 of tldr's
uh brought back some memories for sure it's crazy how many things we've covered you know in 365 days
of spaces dude yeah i scrolled my list this morning it was like oh my god this is only half the list
like you've got the other half and i have two lists yeah it's just like i scrolled through it
and i i mean the things the amount of things that we've covered a wide variety of things
um it's been fun man i learned a load of stuff along the way yeah i mean imagine the tooling
right if we didn't have mark and Ava's TLDR, right?
Like, the show is one thing, right?
But, like, the actual tool, Notebook LM, how much has that affected and changed our life in the last year?
Oh, my God.
So much.
So much.
I use it all the time, even, like, outside of Mark and Ava.
It's a constant, like, oh, there's all of this info I need to consume.
And it's just going to be way better
if I can listen to it while I work.
Or drive or, yeah.
I mean, I remember when we were first pregnant,
like my wife was having me send her
a bunch of like baby review things.
And you know what I mean?
Like all these little,
or even like vaccine research
and things like that, you know?
Yeah, dude, it it's crazy it's absolutely
crazy what you can yeah well i learned a lot you know the other thing too is it's also just provoked
a lot of really great conversation with people as well because we've had these great shows and
you'll get guys like bullish come up and and gg and all the people that come up and and that are
interested in this stuff it really helps drive
the combo and our our group of friends are very innovative as far as how they think so it i i love
the combos that come out of it yeah it's been been a wild year i mean we've got to talk to charles
hoskinson's this year we got uh you know interviewed bram and gene many times 222 hours
interviewed bram and gene many times 222 hours i was talking about somebody was talking about
that with somebody i don't know a couple weeks ago about how how wild it is just to think that
a great number of us could you know just tag gene or bram on the timeline and get a response or send
a dm and get a response like that's
it's not what i saw coming when i you know really got into this space when you really got into dragon cats pictures of dragon cats yeah yeah 44 years old playing with dragon cats
44 years old playing with dragon cats.
Fuck yeah.
Yeah, dude.
Didn't picture being here.
I mean, picture doing something.
But not sure that I saw
the circle of people
that we're so fortunate to be surrounded with.
It's a lesson in life, right?
So Drak got into this from purely
a business marketing perspective
and he did this.
He's like, what are the two most favorite?
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
This is besides the whole scamming thing.
But like how you went into this, right?
Is you went into this very logically, right?
You're like, okay, what are the two most loved animals, creatures in the world?
And you're like, cats and dragons.
So you're like, I'm going to like cats and dragons so you're like i'm gonna combine
cats and dragons into one right this this is in a sense like the the idea of you know founders
right you you think of a product and you make the product you know according to what your idea of
the market is right but the market wasn't ready for what your level of it right like you could
have just done a straight pfp and sold the dragon cats and done the whole thing but no no this guy wants to take
it to another level and create a platform uh with interactive changing game assets you know
the works basically what yeah the last few years has been near that one yeah yeah
Yeah, I kind of over-engineered that one.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I kind of went overboard there.
So that means to say is that the market will determine the methods, not your idea, right?
Like what you think it's going to be versus what it becomes is two wildly different things.
Well, that, yeah.
I mean, the left turn that is the Tang Gang
and the timeline of things.
It was, you know, building my quiet little Dragon Cat game,
doing my thing, learning about blockchain
as I kind of learned to wield the tools.
And then, bam, left turn.
Fucking Tang Gang comes in and over.
That was a game changer.
And then Tang Talk and all the things that, yeah,
I'm not anywhere near where I originally set out.
I originally just wanted, you know, it was was just drag now it's too many things i mean forgot
chicks we have a crate now right like an entire platform for minting and chasing chasing chia
gaming right now working with mr dennis that's a lot of work i think i'm on page 18 of proposal
now and that's just my notes
it's not even like converting it into the actual document that we're going to present along with
building the code and building tracker systems and decentralized peer-to-peer gaming platforms
dude it's a bit i mean i got a lot done in 2025. Didn't get everything done the way that I wanted.
Probably could have pushed harder.
But man, we got a shitload done.
I laid down a lot of code, which is evident by my global statistics of top 3% of cursor users.
And not even accounting for any of my other users.
That's just cursor.
Cursor, yeah.
I have multiple things feeding through APIs.
I can't imagine, because again,
I'm using probably five different AIs,
and at the peak, I was utilizing five of them
in different browser windows at the same time.
What's the token usage? I mean, again, I did 5.5 billion on cursor.
You did like about 11 on cursor. Nevermind. Again, I have 20,000 pages in GBT.
I got probably 20 plus thousand in Grok. You know what I mean? Claude.
I have two different Claude's. Think about just the legal docs that I wrote this year.
Think about all of the legal docs that I use after I fired my lawyer and was like, I'm doing this myself.
Like, dude, it's just been game changing.
Oh, hey, did you get your free year of perplexity?
No, I haven't yet.
Go follow.
Do that.
Dead simple, dude.
Went in, clicked a couple buttons like I was a tank target, smooth brain motherfucker.
Went in and click, click. Bam. I have a year of perplexity for free it's amazing yeah you just gotta connect
your paypal perplexity pro perplexity pro i don't remember it must be i think it's i think it's pro
yeah it's dope it's anyway go do it everybody should go do it thanks to naz for pointing that
out and sharing the info it's on my timeline it's on bullish's timeline it's dope. Anyway, go do it. Everybody should go do it. Thanks to Nas for pointing that out and sharing the info.
It's on my timeline.
It's on Bullish's timeline.
It's around.
You'll find it.
But a year of perplexity, you can't go wrong,
especially when you're using these amount of tokens that you're using, Brad.
Can you imagine the combination?
If we had, say, all LLm usage going through corporate account that was ever like our combined usage this
year in research in development in creativity in legal in all of it i mean just ridiculous
well jeff then think of notebook lm i want cursor to like give me like how many tokens do we use in
notebook this year oh can't imagine
you know what i'm saying 365 days in space i i posted my stats from cursor on and tagged them
because i was like god damn like top three percent of like you got a million page users i don't even
know how many total users you have like what like somebody needs to call me. I'll start promoting this.
Anyway, yeah, dude, it was a it was a busy year. It was a busy, busy year. We put we put AI to the test on so many fronts.
Mathematics, design, research, cutting edge, you know, theories and ideas that we have to push through crypto like all of the
products that we're doing all of the efforts we've chased current future it's testament because
there's just absolutely no way that we could have gotten done what we got done without ai that i mean absolutely not there would have had to have been
a team of six working 40 hours a week week after week taking no breaks like if not more the i i
know myself i've been performing like i'm four different people in my office at the same time
now i've got that one's doing research that one's doing emails this one's doing marketing this one's doing coding this one like I just don't know I there's no way to go back from here I could never go back to the old way
of coding and I although I love code and I'm super grateful that I got to like learn it all by hand
up until two years ago let's say I mean it's really been a year where we've gone heavy hard
two years of like playing with it and prior to that like when I think about all the code I wrote let's say, I mean, it's really been a year where we've gone heavy hard,
two years of like playing with it. And prior to that,
like when I think about all the code I wrote for Drac, oh my God,
oh my God, the hundreds of thousands of lines of code,
like just insane amounts by hand. Oh, it was, you know,
and when I think about my old work and projects I've worked on, when I think about the ISR stuff or the manufacturing stuff, the IoT,
like these projects were complicated in my professional career.
And they were heavy.
And we wrote it all by hand.
Like, I almost kind of think, like, it'll be funny to talk to my grandkids
and be like, yep, we did by hand.
And they're like, no, you didn't.
And you're like, really guess we used to write
every line we voted uphill both ways no shoes on our feet in the snow dude i know and these kids
are going to be looking at like it's going to be similar to when you know you look at a great
grandfather who flew in the war and you're like really like you were in the back of that thing getting shot at like that's insane you can't picture it in your comfy north america lifestyle
right now you can't even come close you can watch all the docs you want you can't come close
it's going to be the same thing when we say to our grandkids yeah i used to code by hand i used to
have to dream up an idea and then slowly pick away at it until it manifested into what I saw in my head.
Now, I just go, this is what's in my head.
And then GPT clarifies.
It's like, is this what you want?
You're like, yeah, sure, sounds good.
I mean, oh.
You're exactly right.
No, no, that's not what I said, GPT.
If GPT tells me I'm exactly right one more time, Judah, chop it in the throat.
Oh, man.
You're absolutely right.
You're absolutely – no, you're absolutely wrong.
That's Claude.
Claude's – that's their response.
You're absolutely right.
Yeah.
Yeah, I like Claude.
But anyway, as I dive deeper into –
Hey, I got to get James in the truck.
He's crying right now.
So why don't you go into our next segment, and I'll be back in a few minutes.
Okay, so next segment, I'm not sure it's going to work.
I've been working on it all morning and I went into my roast file that had the prompt that I used to red team it to get them to do the roasting and it was gone.
I think I copied it or cut it out.
I meant to copy it and I cut it.
Anyway, it saved.
It's definitely in our conversations somewhere inside of Signal.
If you could find it.
Because there was two components, and I can't find either of them now.
I haven't done them because I've been using Harass.
Which, yeah, it's not fully working.
Anyway, just give me one second here.
I need to preview, listen to this and see if it works.
Just hold on. so
okay i i think it worked i just skimmed it but i'm not positive it worked because even when i
made the one this morning it sounded like it worked and then it kind of went back to like
referring to the the source material as in like also the source material as opposed to like
performing the roast which is what we had so in the interest of time i'm gonna i'm gonna do it
anyway because i think this sounds right and i I actually went back to the Harass app.
I see Warden's in the room.
What's up, bro?
I went back to the Harass app to get what we did in the prompting there to get it to work.
So I'm hoping that I pulled it all back together.
All to say, happy birthday, Mom.
I hope you enjoy this roast.
And I hope it is as harsh and crude as I tried to make it.
Although I feel like they might've dialed back a little bit, which will do no justice because for those in the room, my mom's got bigger balls than all you guys.
That's all I'm going to say.
And I hope this, this this roast is harsh just appropriately.
Love you, Mom.
Happy birthday.
American Ava, over to you.
Welcome back to the deep dive.
Today we are undertaking what is, I think it's fair to say, the most personal and revealing deep dive we've ever conducted.
I think that's absolutely fair.
We're not looking at global markets, no geopolitical policy today. No, not at all. We're diving into this collection of extremely
detailed, highly personal source documents. Testimonials, anecdotes, observations,
all detailing the life of one single really powerful figure. A figure known only as the
mother of dragons. And the sources are.
Yeah. Well, they're intense. They're brutally honest and just fundamentally contradictory.
They really are. They paint this picture of a matriarch who is defined equally by this, you
know, supreme unflappable confidence. And on the other hand, by what the writers call with zero
apology, remarkable domestic chaos. Exactly. And that's the tension, right?
So our mission today is to get past just reciting these amazing facts
and figure out the how.
How do these traits that seem like they just can't exist in the same person,
extreme clumsiness and ruthless authority, for example.
Or this overwhelming intensity and then this profound stabilizing loyalty.
How does that all coexist in one person?
Right, and not just coexist, but thrive for decades.
What's the synthesis here?
What does this tell us about true non-traditional leadership?
Because the sources are unanimous on one thing.
Her influence.
Her influence is absolute.
It's undeniable.
Okay, so let's unpack this.
I think we have to start where the contradiction is just the most blatant.
The domestic front.
The domestic front.
Her lack of just basic practical competence.
We need to look at the sheer force she projects,
even when that force is just trying not to burn the house down.
It's a great starting point because the kitchen, according to these sources,
is, well, it's less a culinary space and more of an active war zone. Declares war on food. That's the quote. She doesn't follow
recipes. I love that framing. It's not incompetence. It's adversarial. She has to
dominate the task, even if it's just making dinner. And the recurring image. It's not just
a smoke alarm going off. No. The note says the smoke alarms in her house are reportedly filing
incident reports.
Filing incident reports?
I mean, the failures are that chronic, that dramatic.
It's a professional level of failure.
Which, you know, it makes you wonder about the psychology.
If you know you're that prone to accidents, why not just order a pizza?
But the chaos isn't just at the stove.
We have to talk about her physicality.
One of my favorite phrases from the sources.
I know which one you're going to say.
Osha Clumsy.
Osha Clumsy.
It's not just tripping over a rug.
It's a workplace hazard.
It really is.
And the absurdity just peaks with the sewing machine story.
This is so specific.
It almost sounds made up, but it's right there in the text. She once sewed her own hand.
To a sewing machine.
And the sources don't even frame it as a crafting mistake.
They call it a hostage situation for the machine itself.
I just picture a tiny SWAT team rappelling down.
But seriously, it suggests this profound disconnect
between her mental intent and her physical execution.
That's the core tension.
And it extends to her spatial awareness, too.
The struggle with basic directions. For her
left and right are more of a suggestion. Right. It's this pseudo dyslexic tendency as they put it.
If you ask her for directions you're not getting GPS coordinates. No you're getting a vibe. Or
my absolute favorite an interpretive dance with consequences. Exactly. And what's so fascinating here is the trade-off.
A person who is so powerful, so in control in one sphere...
Managing people.
Right.
Is so lacking in competence with these basic physical or mechanical tasks,
it suggests, you know, a zero-sum game of mental bandwidth.
All her focus, all her energy is going to this high-level strategic management of her family.
Which leaves literally zero capacity for anything else.
She invests her force entirely in the metaphysical, not the physical.
And that reframing, it helps a lot.
It leads us perfectly into the next section.
The crucible of authority.
This is where the accidental hazard turns into a deliberate, unflappable presence.
And I think the best microcosm for her entire approach to authority is her relationship with a board game.
Monopoly.
Monopoly.
The sources are clear.
Yeah.
For her, monopoly is not a game.
It's a rigged financial system.
She cheats.
Relatively and repeatedly.
But her justification is that she's just engaging in advanced economic manipulation.
That phrase is so key. Because she's not trying to hide it.
The cheating is the point.
She's teaching a lesson.
She's demonstrating unapologetically how the world really works.
That rules are for people who can't enforce their own reality.
She doesn't pass go.
She seizes go.
She doesn't collect $200.
She mandates an audit.
It's a philosophy of winning by redefining the rules with zero apology.
And that philosophy just feeds directly into her entire public persona.
She swears like a sailor who got promoted to admiral.
It's the grit, but with authority layered on top.
She doesn't just socialize.
She dominates.
She can outhang most of the boys.
She doesn't hang.
She holds court. That's a better way to put it. But how does that authority actually feel to the people
around her? Well, there's that one striking physical comparison in the source material.
Ah, yes. Having a bigger set of metaphorical balls than her husband. And the source even
points out the irony. She doesn't have actual ones. So it's purely a testament to the force
of her will. She just radiates this overwhelming, don't test me energy.
And it changes the room. The thermostat changes when she enters a room.
She adjusts the entire atmosphere.
That is the ultimate form of psychological control,
which is, you know, perfectly reflected in the household judicial system.
Which seems terrifyingly efficient.
Efficient, yes. Fair.
Not so much. There is no due process in her house.
She's judge and jury.
And there is no appeal process.
The source of stress, you don't even get a warning.
There's just the look.
The look, which signifies you fucked up three decisions ago.
You are preemptively guilty.
Yeah.
What's really key here is her delivery, her discipline.
She doesn't raise her voice.
She raises consequences. And that certainty is what elev her discipline. She doesn't raise her voice. She raises consequences.
And that certainty is what elevates it.
She isn't reacting to chaos.
She's establishing a permanent enforced order.
It shows that the lack of competence we talked about earlier.
The clumsiness, the directions.
Yeah.
It's more than compensated for by her absolute mastery of psychological and relational competence.
She's hyper-focused on maintaining the line.
Okay, so this is where it gets really interesting.
How does a person maintain that?
That level of internal pressure, this constant state of dominance,
for decades without just cracking?
That's the shift we have to make now,
from the daily interactions to the long game, the endurance.
And the first piece of evidence is the marriage,
46 years. Which the source material does not call a marriage. No, it calls it a full contact endurance sport. With that incredible side note that her husband is seen as having tapped out
around a year 12. Which is just so funny, but it also says so much. It implies that living under
her authority, even lovingly, requires a level of stand-on
most people just don't have. She's the last one standing, always. But maybe the greatest
test of that resilience, the ultimate crucible for her, was motherhood. Raising two sons,
the sources say this alone should qualify her for sainthood or at least hazard pay.
And they specifically mention the struggles with one son, Dracatus, and the unbelievable amount of shit she put up with.
The fact that she successfully raised these complex, difficult people through sheer force of will is the ultimate proof that her strategy of raising consequences actually works.
The high internal pressure isn't arbitrary. It's necessary.
And what's the pressure release valve for all this?
Her dark humor. Her defining sense of dark humor. It's expansive, they say. It lives in a gray area
that would make the devil pause and say, okay, that's a bit much. She laughs where other people
gasp. And that suggests it's a coping mechanism. It's a psychological shield. It allows her to
process all this hardship and conflict without ever losing that control.
So if we connect all this back to the bigger picture, the resilience, the endurance, it explains why the authoritative exterior is so necessary.
The person who is clumsy with a needle has to be ruthless with a rule.
The lack of competence demands an oversupply of force, and that right there is the synthesis
of her personality.
The chaos of her physical world is balanced by the brutal, unflinching order she enforces
in her emotional and familial world. It's a system built to survive its own internal instability.
Which brings us to the final section. After all this analysis of her flaws and her force,
we get to the core identity, the glue. Let's just do a quick callback
of the contradictions. Okay. She can't cook, but she can burn, metaphorically and apparently,
literally. She cheats at Monopoly, but only to teach you how the world really works. She's
dangerously clumsy with tools, but completely ruthless and certain with rules. But after all
of that, all the savage, hilarious criticism,
the sources arrive at this incredibly profound and respectful conclusion.
They shift. The critique of her methods gives way to the truth of her value.
Yes. The ultimate conclusion is that despite the kitchen fires, the intimidation, she is the glue.
The backbone, the constant when everything else falls apart.
She holds everyone together. She carries the load without asking for credit.
She is described as strong, relentless, loyal, and deeply loving.
The sources finally admit she isn't just a leader.
She is the standard.
And the reason this family works.
After everything, all the criticism just melts away into pure admiration.
It's a powerful arc.
Her legacy isn't defined by domestic perfection,
which we know is non-existent.
It's defined by unwavering toughness and loyalty.
Her capacity for control and force
is directly proportional to the amount of chaos
and difficulty she's had to manage.
The authority isn't manufactured.
It's earned painfully and relentlessly.
And that's what makes her an inspiration.
It's precisely because she's so flawed, yet so painfully and relentlessly. And that's what makes her an inspiration is precisely because she's so flawed yet so powerfully effective.
Exactly. Her story is a perfect example of how real strength often comes bundled
with these other flaws.
The very things that make her human are what make her authority real.
Fascinating, fascinating stuff.
So we have the mother of dragons defined by kitchen disasters, monopoly schemes,
46 year endurance marriage.
But also by a relentless force and loyalty that sets the standard for her entire family.
And that leads us to a final provocative thought for you, our listener.
We've established that this figure operates through this deep tension between competence, where she fails, and sheer force of will, where she excels. So if the Mother of Dragons sets the standard for strength
by compensating for her domestic failures with unfeaching control,
what standard are you setting?
In the areas of your life where you feel the most vulnerable,
where are you applying the most relentless force to compensate?
And where does your real earned influence actually lie?
Think about that tension.
Think about how your own flaws might be fueling
your deepest strength until next time keep digging deeper okay well it wasn't so bad they hit some
good points but that was nowhere near the roast that we've become accustomed to um i gotta find
it was a respectful birthday it was it was way more respectful than I wanted it to be.
If you knew my mother, you'd know that she's probably on the other end saying the same thing.
She's probably going, oh, I wanted a really fucking weird one.
Like fucking weak sauce.
She's like, weak.
Yeah, weak sauce.
Definitely.
Yeah, I don't know what I did with the prompt, man.
They didn't make fun of her saying legends once.
Yeah, I got to find it.
I'm sure I saved it in notes somewhere i
gotta go root through some files because i tried three different times this morning to recreate
whatever you know prompt i had before and it i can't get them to do it again so i need that prompt
back i gotta find it it's somewhere well it's in pieces in Harass app because I broke it apart into like a process, right?
So I can piece it back together and figure it out.
I just didn't have time to do it this morning.
Anyways.
Yeah, but I'm saying it's, I think it's cut paste somewhere.
Like, you know what I mean?
It's, it's somewhere.
I can't, I'm just trying to remember where.
Yeah, it's somewhere.
It's definitely somewhere.
I'll find it.
We'll find it somewhere.
It's, it'll, it'll, it'll appear. I'll do a better one.
Anyway, happy birthday, Mom.
It's the end of the year.
The world is throwing you a party, as they should.
And, yeah, I hope you have a great day.
We'll be over soon, Mom.
Me and Rye, we're going to come hang out for the day.
So to clarify on some of the things that you heard, yes.
Yes, she did sew her
hand to a sewing machine once yes that is accurate she is by far the clumsiest person
that i know on the planet easily easily so that part was true and if you can picture it
picture what it would look like if a needle from a sewing machine went straight down through the center of your middle finger nail, like right in the center, as if you almost put it there intentionally and drove that fucking needle through your finger.
to cut the needle there's some good pictures of my mom holding her middle finger up it's got this
it's got full needle and thread right through the center oh my oh it was it was brutal man
it was brutal um yeah so yeah nails are not fun even like a little poke hole like that like never
mind going through your whole fucking finger dude i think it went like i don't even think it was like
just down through like if i could be mistaken but i i think it's like you know it it did a pass
like up and down well yeah it goes really quick like so oh gross anyway it's um we're used to
these you know usually you have to go to the doctor to get the stitches first, Deb, before they cut them out.
No, not in this case.
There's many things.
There's the smoke detector thing about it taking grievance.
I mean, that's complete.
I can't tell you how many times the house has almost been burnt down.
He's clumsy.
Oh, I know exactly how many times,
because I know how many times you've burnt pizza before.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I may or may not have burnt pizza.
I know where you, again, through this whole roast,
I'm like, yeah, that character's a drag.
That's where he gets it from,
gets it from his mom's side of that.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah, i get a
little mix of both my parents like it was it was almost a half roast of you while it was going yeah
it kind of was i know i'm a lot like both my parents i'm a lot like my dad in a lot of ways
like i obsess over work like he does but my mom's mischievous fun creative side I definitely get from her it comes with
clumsiness sometimes though yeah it's just part of it spatial awareness she
wants almost cut her thumbs off with a giant mirror it was she was hanging a
mirror in the room it's like a thick glass mirror and then if dropped off the
hooks or something and came down and hit like the dresser top and broke into huge shards and came like down across both her thumbs slit both the arteries
i came in the room when she screamed she's still holding the glass that she caught up against the
wall i turned the corner come in and i mean straight out of a movie dude just like like
blood is just like oh yeah yeah yeah been there many times i can feel the oh yeah oh yeah she was
stitched from fingertip
to right down to the elbows had to hold her hands up above her heart like for forever like walking
around with you oh man almost burnt down sounds like an average Thursday burnt down our entire
chicken coop once well it did burn it down just not all the way what was you trying to cook the
eggs uh left the heat lamp on or something in the wrong spot we came home the chicken coop was full blaze full blaze shed is ready to go up
but so she was cooking and farming all the same time yeah multitasking she was just smoking
she was just smoking the chicken yeah, exactly. That's all it was. I have so many, I could go forever on the story.
Never liked those fucking chickens anyways.
Oh, Lord.
We had fun, though, in last year or whatever, when we went on that cruise.
No, she was just, she was, that's all she was doing is, again, she's, like you said in the roast, right?
She doesn't raise her voice.
She doesn't raise her voice.
She raises the consequences.
She raises the consequences.
So those chickens, she told over and over again to not do something, and she wouldn't burn the fucking house down.
She did it as an accident, framed it as an insurance claim.
She's smart.
You think she's clumsy.
That's part of the act, okay?
She's fooled you.
You're on mute.
Sorry, no, I was dealing with the little fella wearing shoes inside,
which I've said multiple times not to do.
Ooh.
Anyway, yeah, so fun morning.
Last episode.
Sad to see it be the last episode.
Gonna take a little break.
Gonna take a couple mornings off, I think, and just do like, I'll probably do like an afternoon space.
Take a break.
Yeah, we haven't really discussed publicly with everybody else.
We've kind of talked privately in the background of what we kind of want to do for 2026.
But we still haven't even, again, fully divulged that plan.
Or necessarily decided on it. We have talked about multimedia.
We have talked about going down to five days a week.
Yeah, definitely going to take the weekends back for the kids.
Because even though it's only usually like an hour or two, it can disrupt
the weekend. But it's not.
It's not.
Yeah.
Like it's an hour or two of direct time.
Yeah.
And then there's hours of thinking of scheduling.
And you know what I mean?
And moving things around and not doing things or not going somewhere.
Yeah.
The weekends need to be for the fam.
So I'm with that 100 five five days a week i even thought of an idea of maybe we don't
even necessarily do the video live but we do a couple days of pre-recordings and then produce it
yeah 100 i've been thinking about different things like uh changing the time like maybe
there's an afternoon one i've thought of things like maybe we do every two days formal mark and ava but then like the other days we do informal a whole bunch but i even have an entire
year's worth of um of a chia chronicles is what the ai named i gotta think of a better name well
that's your department but i even went as far as saying we'll, maybe I just want to do Chia for the next year, which I ultimately decided against.
But there are 250 some odd shows scheduled in an order that take you right from introduction all the way down through the technicals.
I did a whole bunch of work with the repos for Chia and all of the, you know, everything from CLVM to offer files to all of it, like all of it through and through all the different wallets, everything.
And so there's I've even been down that road, which ultimately I don't want to do.
I don't want to have all my eggs in one basket.
If anything, I want to diversify more, like you're saying, different mediums and and different content and pushing it across different platforms and stuff I want to go a little I want to go a lot more broad
this year as opposed to the past year um AI will obviously be a focus chia will be a focus I'm
I'm pretty much done with the rest of the chains um save for anything that my friends are doing on
any of those chains I'm down just because i'm down
for my friends i don't i don't care if i use the tech or not if they're using it they're finding
value i'm 100 behind them and so i'll still be around with all the change but there's just
no desire in my heart to research evm or what can i do more with evm like or whatever well we were
talking about the tech, right?
The tech is what we're here for.
Like that's always what you've been here for, right?
So instead of necessarily going at the financial instrument side of it,
we should just cover again, world of web three or like, you know,
the journey towards web three.
Cause web three technically isn't even here yet, you know?
Yeah. And, and, and I don't even like the term Web3 just because it's all the same.
Yeah, well that's kind of the point, right?
Is to, in a sense, not do this shallow view of it from an outside perspective of what it is and what it should be.
But what is it developing, like what is web 3 like yeah i wanna i wanna
i wanna be versatile talk about the tech talk about the evolution of it talk about where it is
where it needs to be you know what i mean the ideology of what it's supposed to be i want to do
more like guests and stuff we did a few but we didn't really put a lot of emphasis on it
and i'd really like to have more of a go at being a guest on shows as well as having guests like i
want to be a little more broad that way so yeah i'm gonna take a couple days and think about it
my brother's coming up it'd be nice for you to do like a little series on like agile or not agile but um
uh like your full stack that you utilize with with um oh gosh i'm blanking while i'm driving right now
like the mean set angular thank you yeah yeah angular yeah i could do an angular series i'd
rather do like a full front and back series.
But I kind of want to put together this year like a scaffolding,
free scaffolding for everybody that basically will, you know,
in a matter of a couple of clicks, you can set up the entire infrastructure.
Things like that.
But, yeah, I don't know, man.
I got a lot of ideas for this year
got to push on it i really want to get more into like fractional cto services chase down this
chia gaming hopefully we get that that'll put a lot on the on the on the you know slot for the
next like three years basically if we get that there's a lot of work to be done um but yeah you
know i don't know if i want to do agile because
i'll be honest with you brad i'm kind of throwing agile at the window because it doesn't like with
ai and the way it performs and the way that you use it i mean it's it's it can supplement agile
for sure uh and there's advantages if you stick to agile in certain ways, but, um, I've heard people say before, like, you know,
agile's dead, do it this way. And I'm always like, meh, no, it's not. Uh, but now I am a little more
suspect that it might be the era where that methodology begins to die.
Well, I think it's just an evolution, right? So it's, it's now it's agentic,
right? You need to, in a sense, prompt, you know, the, the small breakdowns, right? So like
task oriented coding for vibe coding or anything like that, like to be able to break that down
into an agile process. And then again, now you're breaking it down to instead of two hour chunks,
but something that's more based towards agentic work, right?
So like what it's able to do per token.
Yeah, for sure.
Like part of the problem with doing like a waterfall approach
is that it's almost impossible to anticipate everything.
Agile, or it doesn't leave you with the tools needed
to anticipate changes and pivot and so on,
which is a necessary skill to have
when you're building anything.
Where Agile like kind of facilitated that process
and put a focus on immediate response,
immediate results, quick pivots,
versatile teams that can change and move with the problems and so
on. But see, like AI is doing all of that now. And now when it makes a list, I don't have to
try to read the list and from an architect standpoint, look at it and go, okay, what
implications are applied to this subset of things because the the outputs over here or whatever the case may be um it now now ai tracks all that for me and i can easily say give me priority items that match
these criteria like do you know what i mean like there's no need for me to go out right but what
i'm saying is the language that you just utilize in that exact sentence is not readily available and out there right so a course designed
around uh again planning agentic agile development right to be able to learn that language not
necessarily implement and break it down yourself so again take the the the task right because that's
what what you know basically any automation is doing is it's taking
the task away from somebody, not the work away from somebody, but the actual task and turning
it into editing. Right. So it's teaching agentic agile editing in a sense. Yeah, man, the whole
agent side of things and right. Like, like train, train prompting And again, have those setups. Like basic rule setups. What is agile? What is agentic agile? You know, like these different breakdowns of, in a sense, transgression from what the Web2 way of doing it is about, which has great policies, practices, and procedures, and then transferring them into agentic, you know, workflows.
practices and procedures and then transferring them into agentic uh you know workflows
yeah it's exciting what 2026 is going to bring my workflow is changing my focus is changing
um to like what the industry is kind of itself changing to adapt adapt or be swallowed up man
adapt adapt or be swallowed up man pivot jeff in 2024 would you guess
that i would be in the top 30 of cursor users
uh no no no i probably wouldn't have guessed that
like this year you know we we never know what's coming next like
just around the corner we're one tool away
yeah you know what i mean from exactly what we're looking for yeah dude we're it's it's all right
there i can taste it i can taste it it's it's a year at most of of more balls to the wall sacrifice
style effort it's a year at most at most i i firmly believe in my gut this year
will be a year a transformative year for for everybody and us and myself i just feel that
so wholeheartedly in my the root of my stomach that i can't i can't it's one of the you know
you know my personality brad certain things i just can't ignore and put out of my head, some things stick and it's like, nope, that's not
gonna, that's gonna bother me until, until I quench the thirst and it tends to be around like
legal stuff, but crazy and, you know, all that kind of stuff. But, um, it, it's there with this.
It's, it's a similar feeling where it's just, this is the year.
Yeah, we made it through Ali-oop-tober.
So now we're into Slammuary.
Only a day away.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But even without Sack Daddy.
Listen, I actually think, and I should say I actually believe that with the right effort and focus, I will make more money for my family and those around me through other means than I will crypto.
But by the end of the year, even with whatever C&I and Chia do with a hike, I just.
C and I and Chia do with a hike. I just, and so this is why even in the, the barest of
barest times, like right now we are like the fam jam is a struggle, but it's, there's this
right now, 25 to 26, there's this just, um, conviction in me that I can't put away yet.
There's answers there that I have to chase that I know I can get, you know?
So I'm really optimistic about 2026.
GG, good morning.
I'm running Jameson into his grandmother's.
I'll be right back up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
GG, how are you, sir?
Doing fine. Driving with some friends in the car so uh just uh just know that i'm here i'm listening uh to everyone i hope that everyone
has a great 2026 and ends the year 2025 out with a bang, Berks. That's right, man. Everybody in this group has so much to be proud of for 2025.
There are people that have grown into leaders.
There are quiet people that have grown into speakers.
There are people that were scared of crypto that are now comfortable.
There are ignorant people that are now educated.
There is a ton of
work that has been done in this group over 2025. And I mean, I'm nobody to tell you that I'm
impressed or that I'm proud of you. It could, you know, mean squat, but is a group of people that I see and I can rely on being there every single day.
Every day.
That is, and I've said this and sung this song so many times over the year, there is so much power in that.
Think about an office building full of employees.
On any given day, not everybody shows up.
Just put that in perspective, people.
There are people that do not go to work 40 hours a week.
There are people that do not follow through on their commitments to the employer that
signs their check.
You guys show up here every fucking day, whether you're paid, whether you're working, whether
you're listening, whatever you're doing, you're here every single day.
And the message that sends as a group is incredible.
It's powerful.
This is why the Tang Gang gets a lot of fun sometimes.
It's a scary, in a good way, opponent, if you want to think of it that you can't not be unnerved
by the consistency and the conviction of this group. If you are on the outside competing against
and feel adversarial towards, there is a level of worry that innately is there because the proof is
on the timeline. The proof is that, I proof is on the timeline the proof is that i mean i saw
somebody the other day it was a post something referencing gooey and it was like the tang gang
was right all along about everything and it was like goddamn right like absolutely and you can
feel that through the intelligence through the conviction through the skill, through the conviction, through the skill set, through the creativity.
It's just you don't get this in a regular environment.
This Twitter space has a magic to it for our group.
It's not that way for everybody.
Don't really care.
Don't really care. For us, it works.
And I don't know, man, I'm just super proud of this crowd because it's a hard
thing to do to show up and be accountable to a bunch of people you that
don't really have a means to hold you accountable right and they're not gonna
fire you tomorrow they're not gonna most of them you don't even like I mean yeah
exactly there's there's something that like you know it's a giant family you
know people squabble. You move on.
In fact, you love them.
You might not like them, but you love them.
Listen, there's lots of people in the space that don't like me,
don't like my brand, my family.
So be it.
I've known about you guys for years,
but I wasn't convinced that you guys were the real thing
until, like, number go down four years straight, and you guys are still at it every single day.
It's a miracle.
Thanks, man.
Appreciate that.
Wait, numbers have been going down?
Yeah, numbers have been going down.
So which number are we looking at?
I'm just saying I haven't looked at the numbers.
That's not why we're here.
Yeah.
Listen, there's times that I've wondered, like, why am I here?
You know, there's in the bare moments when like I was just saying, you know, my family's struggling with a we're in Canada.
B, crypto's down.
See, I don't have a job because I've been doing this full time forever.
Like it's it's it's a rough go.
But.
But I'm wholly optimistic, man, and wholly believe in why we're here. So,
you know, it's a learning thing too, right? And I've had to like question, you know,
do I have the chops to be here? Is this the right space? Is this the right tech?
Is it the right time? So many things that can kick you out. But there's one thing I always
think about, man. I always think about it. It always comes to my head,
um, is that entrepreneurs will live most days like people won't so that they live the rest
of their life. Like most people can't. And I learned that years ago and, and I've stuck that
in my head so that when I'm at the hard points, you know, that this is the time to sacrifice,
like everybody here is doing yourself
included just showing up here when when numbers are down and keeping the positive face because
you understand the tights i can't imagine doing anything else i really can't and and i may have
to someday just out of necessity but i yeah i'm glad that you see it again. I'm glad that that goes through.
I don't think a snake little salesman
sells the same thing day in and day out.
I think they have to change it up.
That's why I'm convinced.
That's why I'm convinced you guys are the real deal.
Go oranges, you know, Tang Gang for life.
You know, you guys are the real deal 100%.
I love you guys.
Thanks, man.
I appreciate it.
It's the gang.
It's the motivator.
I mean, I've said this over and over again. I've never, man. I appreciate it. It's the gang. It's the motivator. I mean, I've said this over and over again. I've never. Listen, ISR job, punching tickets, going through these. It's just bleh.
wanting to do good by the community i wake up in the morning going what can i build for the crew
what what's on my what's on my focus today what's going to drive this because i really do see this
group of people in the scenario years down the road where we're at some conference getting
together and we're laughing our asses off about all of this stuff all the difficult times just
like think about the bitcoiners that you know at the peak of bitcoin they're getting together oh imagine we just we only thought this like that's gonna be our families
and our families are gonna be tied together in a way what about you forgetting your credit card
at the chia meetup in toronto and food's having to go get it yeah i might i may or may not. I can't confirm nor deny that.
It's a family, man.
I don't know.
If it wasn't for the Tang Gang and the Chia group, both of them,
but I kind of just consider them all Tang Gang because the Chia crowd,
they're all just default Tang Gang, whether they know it or not.
But it's... Paul, I know what it was.
You must have mistaken your debit card
for your your wallet or your cell phone and uh a Vegas bathroom or a country
i remember giving foods my pin too because i had to pay my bar tab and that's why it was there
but just kind of like family he's like i got your card i'm like yeah here's the pin pay it
just didn't think twice about it because and it was was probably not, I mean, it's a crypto
card too, it's preloaded.
He's only going to get so much off it, so I'm not too worried.
But I genuinely wasn't worried.
I've gotten no foods over the years, got to meet him in person.
You can always change your pins.
But it's just that, I mean, I said this to you, Brad, about foods when we came back.
Remember I said he looks like my family?
Like, he looks and feels in his personality he could, foods could absolutely pass for somebody in my family.
Like, if I brought him to Newfoundland with me and was like, look, I found a long lost cousin.
His last name's Coleman, too.
They would all be like, yeah, makes sense.
Just at a glance.
I mean, foods is my family um and he gave gives that vibe and i think it's like that for a lot of us in
this space is that a lot of us treat each other like family with at least the respect and the and
and the and the due courtesies and the you know the things like that um which is i I mean, I've been around crypto long enough.
It doesn't exist everywhere.
Even in the spaces that say that it does, it doesn't.
Not the way that this crew handles themselves.
And it's a lot of credit to those that kind of unelected leaders of the group.
You know, I see Bullish in the room.
Gooey's not in the room.
Nas, you know, I see Bullish in the room, Gooey's not in the room, Nas,
you know, Mo Juice,
these people that I see every day,
Grizzle, Tea Money,
like all the people that I see,
and that's not to diminish anybody else
I didn't mention,
but it's everybody,
but there's a certain cadence
and acceptance of how we move
based on how, you know how unelected leaders are perceived and how they
flow, right? And the flow feeds off of each other in a correct way. And if it goes unbalanced,
it gets checked. And that's a difficult thing that even when people are designing teams around,
say, sensitive software, if you're dealing with, say, something that has a lot of attack vectors and so on, you as a hiring manager, you have to go through this process of finding personalities that belong on teams so that there is things like contradiction, so that there is not just a room full of yes men and all that.
contradiction so that there is not just a room full of yes men and all that. And this crew does
those things naturally, what businesses spend a lot of money and a lot of time trying to figure
out. Where here, it just happens. And to the results similar to what I've seen in large
production houses, where they go through the efforts of hiring specific individuals, putting
them in specific roles, isolating these roles in certain ways so that you can have all of these blind spot checks
they got there's a lot of effort goes into that when you're dealing with certain software and here
the gang just makes it look easy so round that out with a wiser's slow clap for you all
um congratulations on all of your 2025 because y'all smashed it and you're an inspiration for me.
I know that Brad can speak for himself, but I know he's going to say the same thing is that you guys inspire us to keep working.
You absolutely fuel my creative side and my dev side to get up and go through all the rest of the bullshit of everyday life and give it a purpose every day and so I to the ends
of the earth and back I'm grateful for my group of friends that have become
closer to me online than some of my IRL friends from, you know, decades. So congrats and thank you.
What's up?
Hey, I'm at a soup kitchen.
Take that for what it's worth.
You guys muffled there.
I didn't hear that.
Sorry.
I said I got to go.
I'm at a soup kitchen.
Take that for what it's worth.
Fuck yeah, bro.
Good on you.
Way to go.
Wiser slow clap.
Maybe you're not there
volunteering um in either case no shame either um but yeah um wishing you the best bro he's selling
rock to the homies down at the shelter no man listen listen people gotta do what they gotta do
i um you know been down that road and you got to do what you got to do.
You got to take care of yourself and you got to put pride away sometimes and you got to handle the situation.
Right.
And so you got to take your paycheck, put it all into GPUs.
You got to go buy as much hex as you can with your mortgage money and let it all rise
fucking over leverage it come on yeah hex on leverage mortgage money um not financial advice
absolutely don't do that oh my god um anyway it's been an eventful 2025 man it's been uh it was a really great turnout by the crew and
so congrats 100 i'm specifically looking up a song here just hold on i gotta mute for a second
Lady in red
Is dancing with me
Nobody here
Just you and me
Where do you wanna be?
Hello
The world today
Takes everything you've got
Taking a break
From all your worries sure with help a lot
wouldn't you like to get away
all those nights when you've got no lights the check is in the mail
and you're an angel on the cat upult's tail, and your third fiancé did your show.
Sometimes you wanna go where everybody knows your name, and they're always glad to came.
They're always glad to came.
You want to be where you can see.
My troubles are all the same.
You want to be where everybody calls your name.
That song is so the crew, man.
I remember when Bullish first pointed that out.
I was like, oh my God, that's the crew right there.
That's what it feels like showing up here every day for me it's a yay drack i put a gm on the timeline everyone's good
morning good morning love it man it's so positive it keeps me going for sure um uh we do gotta end
the space brad because it is my mother's birthday as i mentioned as we roasted and i do want to go spend the day with her over at
the house and uh so with that i don't have any other closing statements other than y'all a bunch
of chads keep doing what you're doing you you make a fella feel welcome and i appreciate everything
so that's that i wish you all the best oh one last thing you know how it goes keep it between
mustard and the mayonnaise no drinking and driving tonight start the new year off well i want to see you all here in 2026.
that's it for me brad you can take us away as you see fit sir here is a little tip and trick um
triple a is a lot less expensive than a dui okay uh or D E uh whatever you want to call it under the influence
driving right so literally just call and get your car towed like even if it costs 500 500 fucking
bucks like again you're not going to kill somebody you're not going to die and uh your car is going
to be safe so that's a little tip right if they don't have like one of those little service like
we talked about the other day they drive your car home for you.
Yeah, don't do it. Talking to some of you in the room, you know who you are.
I love you guys. I appreciate you guys so much.
Thank you once again for being participants in our 365-day experiment.
It was crazy. It was wild. It was hard.
There was definitely days that it was the last thing I wanted to do was come on and do a space.
But that's the whole point of it, right?
Is that you need to push through the things that you don't want to do sometimes.
Show up for yourself every day for one whole year.
That was the goal, right?
And showing up for ourselves, you know, makes, in a sense, other people show up for themselves, right? Like, you guys come here, you start this pattern of everyday listening, of thinking in a different new pattern.
That's what it's about, about changing yourself for the bettering of yourself, your goals, whatever they may be for 2026.
Set them today as the last day of 2025.
Start acting on them today before tomorrow hits, right?
That's why resolutions always fail is it's always a tomorrow thing.
Solutions always fail is it's always a tomorrow thing.
But tomorrow is never here because as I had a sign up at the bar when I owned it,
there's always free beer tomorrow, but tomorrow never comes, right?
There's only today.
There's only the presents.
So take action today.
That's it.
Have a great New Year's.
I think we should tune it out with...
Oh, shit.
I already started it.
Sweet child of mine of 2025.
Love and appreciate it, guys.
2025.
We'll see you later.
2026.
We'll see you.
365 days of spaces.
Drac, what an amazing accomplishment.
Love you, brother.
Love you, brother. Congratulations. You got a smile that it seems to be reminds me of childhood memories where everything
was as fresh as bright blue sky.
Now and then when I see your face, you see your way to pass, there's no place. 2025 2025.
2025.
Shit.
I love you guys.
Have a great day.
Happy New Year.
I'm super proud. I I'm too bad. It reminds me of a warm state place where I was a child.
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