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Trump's New Crypto w/ @gptwars #TheMixUp
Recorded: Sept. 17, 2024 Duration: 1:02:19Space Recording
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One more time, I'm going to celebrate, oh yeah.
One more time.
One more time, I'm going to celebrate.
One more time, I'm going to celebrate, oh yeah.
All right, don't stop the dancing.
One more time, I'm going to celebrate, oh yeah.
Don't stop the dancing.
One more time.
One more time, I'm going to celebrate, oh yeah.
One more time, I'm going to celebrate, oh yeah.
We don't stop, you can't stop, we're going to celebrate.
Ah, help to unmute, guys.
Good morning, crypto fam.
It is another exciting day in the crypto world.
I am Frank filling in for K2.
As you can see, I don't often speak on spaces because I don't know how to unmute myself on here.
I'm still used to, I'm such a boomer.
I'm still thinking we're on Zoom and I need to press on the screen and I'm all confused sometimes.
And you know what's even more confusing?
Binance listing three meme coins.
Nero, Turbo, Baby Doge.
Getting in some hot water for listing the wrong meme coin too.
We'll get into that layer, but that was pretty interesting.
Oh man, that was crazy.
Binance listing meme coins, look, I'm bullish on that.
Like, I want exchanges to bring more meme coins on there.
And the good thing about them getting listed on exchanges, I mean, look, like, they're not taking the small market cap tokens.
Like, they're doing this and, you know, it's not like they're going to rug right after.
Like, that's what I like about them going on Binance.
Well, but here's the thing with rug.
Did you hear about the first Nero on Ethereum?
Ethereum, that's kind of a spin-off on the Nero.
It was a $15 market cap, accidentally got listed on Binance, shot up to like $150 million.
And then in the process, Nero rugged, dropped down to like $78 million from the $130 million that it was at.
So there's just all sorts of wildness with there.
And now there's talks of possible insider trading or some kind of inside job.
Did you guys hear about that?
Yeah, but I saw it.
The thing about Nero, they've been all over the place since the beginning.
Like, not the main one now that's on ETH, but as soon as the tweet got posted by the owner, I want to say at least 200 of them got spun up on Solana.
There were two main competing ones there.
Then once the big one on ETH came along, everybody was like, okay, there's a new one, $100 million market cap out of nowhere.
But that whole situation sounds very, very sus.
Like, how I see it, there's no way that was a coincidence.
Someone knew what they were doing and made a bunch of money.
I'm curious who made money, and I want to tell them that they should have given us the alpha call.
Well, I wonder if it has anything to do with CZ getting released on the 29th.
Maybe he needs a little bit of liquidity, jumpstart his life again.
I don't know.
Could that be it?
I mean, look, that's definitely not CZ.
CZ is getting out.
He owns, like, 63% of the Binance token.
Like, CZ is a multi-multi-billionaire 69 times over.
And I think when he gets out, like, he's going to make more money.
Like, Binance is going to continue to really be a dominant player out here.
In all fairness, guys, I have to say that K2 called this on our spaces while we were discussing the other two Solana meme coins at $15 million.
So it's from $15 million when he said that you guys should pay attention to the one on ETH.
Look at it now.
$164 million market cap.
And this thing is, like, volume for 24 hours, $370 million.
It's massive, man.
That is wild.
That is a lot of money to be moving for those tokens here.
It's – but, David, David, I have to ask you, though.
If you had $69,420,000,000, you're telling me you wouldn't want more money?
Oh, I definitely would, of course.
I mean, maybe I'm different.
But, you know, like, that's how you keep score.
Like, I do a lot of things out here.
And it's – like, I like making money more than I like spending money.
I sit at home on the computer just chilling, doing the whole Web3 thing, working all day.
And I don't even think about what I'm going to buy a year from now, two years from now.
So, if I was easy, I mean, I would definitely spread some of it around.
I would have – I would fulfill my goal of 69 different meme coins on 69 different chains.
And with all that money, I would add another criteria.
They've all got to have $69 million market cap.
So, you know, everybody can make money.
But I think most people would probably retire way before that.
Way before that.
That's fair.
That's fair.
Well, what do you think?
Maybe DGod's token plumbing had something to do with it?
Or do you think we're just –
Oh, my God.
Oh, man.
Well, I saw that it's back up.
Is it coming back?
Is it coming back?
Honestly, I don't even know what happened with it.
Let me find it.
And that's kind of embarrassing because I've got a few of their NFTs.
But I saw a couple posts about it.
The ticker DGod.
Apparently, all of the NFT collections plus their original token are supposed to really combine into this.
I don't know if you need to trade them, if you need to burn them, if it's a 404, if you can get the NFTs back after doing that.
Like, I'm going to look more into it today.
But they originally dumped.
And then they went back up.
Look, like, Frank is a G.
Like, he knows what he's doing.
Two of the – that's probably one of the loudest communities out here on Twitter.
And everybody can hate him one day.
The entire timeline can be only DGod's FUD.
And then all of a sudden, the next day, they're doing something cool and everybody's praising him again.
I've seen this happen 10 times over over the past year.
And he never fails to get the attention.
I mean, that's kind of the crypto way, isn't it?
You just – you got these popularity waves where as soon as you start building stuff and the hype dies down, they hate you and they go somewhere else.
And then you launch something cool and everybody loves you again?
Well, look, I mean, it is.
It really is.
And that's exactly how crypto works.
Like, that's why all of the tokens and all of the big companies, that's why they have market makers.
Like, their market makers kind of, you know, facilitate that and they'll keep it a little more stable than what you see with meme coins.
And, like, trading the noise, the downtime, buying when nothing's happening, selling when all the attention comes back, that's what a lot of the smart people do out here on Twitter.
You've got the community members who they just buy.
They either hold it for years and never even think about selling or when they're buying it, they just – they don't even consider that they'll sell it.
Like, they're buying it and they're buying it to just get the use out of it.
They're not buying it to flip it.
But, look, I mean –
What do you think of the chart, David?
It looks very healthy to me, to be honest.
I like the chart.
You got some green in there.
You got some red.
We're approaching holiday season.
Look, I mean, Christmas charts.
See, green, some red.
It looks good.
Looks good.
What do you think, though?
Is this a good buying opportunity for D-Gods or should we expect some more blood in the water first?
Oh, man.
Honestly, I would – all right.
Frank's a controversial figure.
A lot of people love him.
A lot of people hate him, which is a good mix to be out here on Twitter and in crypto, to be honest.
But I don't know.
Like, they have everything that you would need to really take this thing to the next level.
Like, he's got the connections.
If they want to get exchanges – on exchanges at a certain point, D-Labs or Dust or whatever the actual company is, they raised $7 million.
Like, they know what they're doing.
They've got a solid team.
And they've got one of the loudest armies and communities out here on Twitter.
Like, I think anything they want to do, they could do.
I'm curious what it's going to be.
I don't think a meme coin like this – I don't think this is the end goal.
Like, they're definitely cooking something up.
Maybe cooking something up like MicroStrategy.
Do you hear they spent $1.1 billion to buy 18,300 Bitcoins?
Like, I don't know.
That's got to be bullish for Bitcoin here.
We've got Swift doing stuff.
Sony's – I mean, well, Sony's not on Bitcoin.
But, you know, we've got bigger companies in here and now over a billion dollars in Bitcoin bought.
That's bullish.
Oh, man.
Michael Saylor, when things are down and people are scared, he just comes in here and he's like,
all right, guys, this is the size clip that I'm working with and just dropped a billion dollars.
Like, that's the level of a superhero.
Like, if we do end up getting a Mt. Crypto instead of Mt. Rushmore, Michael Saylor's face is going to be up there right next to Satoshi.
I mean – and this isn't going to be the last big buy, too.
Like, that's what he turned MicroStrategy into, isn't it?
Like, it's a Bitcoin company.
Whenever he gets to a certain point or whenever he's able, he'll borrow money or issue new stock and just buy Bitcoin.
Like, Michael Saylor is going to be the number one holder at a certain point.
That's wild.
I mean, that's a good strategy, though.
That's a pretty easy value prop.
Like, give me money, I'll buy Bitcoin.
It's a MicroStrategy.
I like the play on worth there.
Yeah, I see what you did there, David.
I see what you did there.
But what about SBF now?
Accusing the judge of being biased in the FTX trial?
I mean, what?
Did the judge have some money in FTX?
Like, I thought this one was a pretty open, shut case.
Oh, man.
You know what?
That's actually one of the first thoughts that came to mind.
And look, like, that is that's that's the kind of game that some of these high level lawyers would play, hoping that it like you can never have proof for something like this, because if it gets out, it's game over for a lot of people.
But if they're in a losing situation, evidence is they're caught, red handed, smoking gun, everything they need.
The only way to get him off of it is some sort of backroom deal, some sort of technicality, somehow winning on an appeal down the line.
And I don't know, like, I want to see if there actually is something to this or if SBF is just, you know, like he's he's mad that he doesn't get to play League of Legends anymore.
So this is him trying to pull a rabbit out of a hat.
But man, if that judge ended up crossing a line and SBF gets out, I can only imagine the type of conspiracies and all the crazy shit that people are going to start saying.
That'll be a wild one.
Oh, I mean, you just when you thought the FTX saga was done, I mean, I don't know if you guys read the buyer fee Michael Lewis put out last year, but that whole situation, I just you can't believe that they got away with it.
So I don't know what he's going to try to pull with that and what kind of retrial he would like what evidence he would have.
But like you said, David, it seems like everything is just pretty clear cut, tons and tons of they were doing their books with emojis and QuickBooks.
Like, I mean, look, hundreds of millions of dollars disappeared.
Hundreds of millions of dollars went to politicians.
That money didn't come back.
Billions.
Money's still missing.
Billions.
Yeah.
Like a lot of money.
And on top of that, like there were people who were working at FTX on the top level.
And now they're working at some of these other crypto companies out here on the top level.
So I don't like I think there is so much more to this story than people will ever know.
And I remember around the time it was happening, there were group chats.
A lot of the venture capital firms, big names in the space were speaking out against it and telling people to make sure that you get your money out.
Similar situation to Luna.
I mean, with this crypto is a small world.
It seems like a big world that nobody knows what's going to happen.
But people know what's going on and people know what's going to happen.
It's just not us.
It's not the DJs on Twitter.
No, no.
It's the cabals doing the backroom deals.
You know, K2 is probably in a couple of those right now.
Hopefully he's got some elf when he comes back.
But you know what, David?
I think I figured it out.
I think I figured out they're trying for a mistrial so that if Harris wins, she can put him in her cabinet and he can head up all the finance for the U.S.
Because that sounds like some mad government finance stuff right there.
I think he would fit in perfect.
Oh, my God.
Gary Gensler.
Kamala wants to make Gary Gensler the Secretary of Treasury.
And I guess that she would want to make SBF the director of the SEC.
I mean, that kind of fits perfectly.
Imagine that.
Gensler and SBF.
Oh, my God.
What a duo.
Oh, man.
That would make me leave the country way before Kamala winning president.
Like, whoever gets elected president, okay.
Policies are going to be leaning more one side to the other.
But you got SBF and Gary Gensler running the United States dollar.
Oh, my God.
Guys, I'm gone.
I'm gone.
Oh, wild times.
We're calling it now, though.
You heard it here first, folks.
If, you know, that's a polymarket thing.
I bet you could make some big money on polymarket with that one.
Holy Christ, yeah.
Oh, man.
Speaking of polymarket, I definitely want to get into that.
But we got our friends from GPT Wars.
I'm not sure if you guys got to go at 930.
But would love to get an update from you before we just continue on with the news.
I mean, there's so much stuff happening.
I think we could run a three-hour space just talking about all the drama that's happened over the past 24 hours.
I'm going to talk to K2 later and get an update on Singapore.
Like, a lot of magic's happening over there.
But, guys, GPT Wars, thanks for coming.
How are you doing?
How are you feeling about what's happening in crypto right now?
Like, is this normal or is this crazy?
Hey, guys.
How's it going?
Pleasure to be here as usual.
I think it's just the daily, right?
Everything is happening, you know, every day.
Crazy things.
About DGOX, I didn't know that they launched a token.
It's pretty interesting.
I'll definitely take a look.
Regarding Trump's AMA with Farouk, I think it's bullish, but I have, you know, some mixed feelings as well regarding that.
But it's always bullish to, you know, just have a public figure and someone as big as President Trump to just be speaking about crypto openly, right?
So, yeah, in terms of, like, GPT Wars, we've been working hard at the office.
So, actually, no one from the core team was able to travel to Singapore since we're, you know, approaching big milestones for the project.
We're launching our game in Hyperplay so that you'll be able to test it out.
We're also launching our Telegram mini app.
And we announced our Freemint.
I think we're, you know, we're really bullish about that.
We saw an explosion on our organic activity since we announced the Freemint.
It looks like people love, you know, Freemints, especially on Tom.
So, we're really excited to, you know, host that on Contention in Tom.
Tell me about the Freemint.
Tell me.
I didn't need that.
I need some whitelist facts.
What's going on?
How many do you have for me?
Well, I mean, as many as we want.
Well, I mean, you guys need to get into the whitelist, but, you know, happy to just walk you over the process.
It's really easy for now.
You just got to go through, you know, to our Discord and you'll get a special role when you, you know, when you start chatting.
And then you can already just sign up to the whitelist.
It's, you know, we're really excited.
Actually, we posted the wallet submission yesterday and we really got more than, like, 1,000 sign-ups or so in just, you know, less than 24 hours.
So, that's really good.
And, you know, we, yeah, we're really looking forward to that.
Even my, like, one of my advisors just texted me, like, right out of the bank and, you know, was asking for a space on the whitelist.
So, I think that's good news, right?
But, yeah, really excited to host the NFT sale or Freemint on Tom.
I think that's going to be huge.
Oh, very cool.
I can't wait to see that.
So, what are the NFTs like?
Are they PFPs?
Is it some sort of, like, membership pass?
Or tell me about the design.
What does it do?
Like, I'm waiting for NFTs to come back.
I'm getting a little excited now.
I hope they look something like the characters on the screen.
That is just sick.
Well, yeah, there you go.
You will definitely have to do something with that.
We still haven't, you know, announced anything regarding that.
But I can say that it's going to basically represent your loyalty to, you know, to the resistance.
And, you know, we're trying to get sold early on.
And I think we're definitely going to value that.
So, down the line.
And, you know, the good thing about NFTs is that, you know, they're composable, right?
You can always just include, you know, new functionalities as you go.
So, in that sense, you know, we're definitely planning for this premium to be, you know, like a really special part of the game, you know, in the upcoming releases.
Oh, man.
This looks awesome.
I can't wait to see what the NFTs look like.
So, you guys have two games, right?
This is the actual game.
And then you've got a Telegram Tapper game.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah, which we're going to be launching, I think, pretty soon.
I don't want to keep dates yet.
But, you know, maybe in the next couple of weeks, it's going to be a top-to-earn along with a, like, online multiplayer, like, fire game where, you know, you just get a top and fight against other users.
And, yeah, we're going to feature, like, the basic mechanics, passive rewards, you know, loyalty rewards, affiliates.
So, yeah, really excited to be doing that.
Is there any kind of integration between the Telegram Tapper game and then this game here?
Like, can you earn points in the Tapper that transfer over to stuff you can do here?
Are they completely separate?
That's a great question, Frank.
Well, actually, we do.
I mean, that's, you know, one of the main selling points of GPT Awards is, you know, we're trying to beat this AAA game, you know, that is on top.
And at the same time, we're launching this mini app where you're going to be able to do multiple things, right?
You're going to be able to buy in-game assets, for example, without really having to download the game.
You know, some people don't really have, you know, game NPCs to download the game, but they still want to, you know, try out the ecosystem or participate in some way.
So, we're allowing that by, you know, opening the server of the mini app, which you're going to be able to manage your account, buy in-game assets, you know, open loot boxes.
So, we're really, like, stimulating the economy without, you know, forcing people to download the game, right?
That opens a lot of possibilities and decreases the barrier of entry, right?
Is this a PC game?
Is it PC, mobile?
Like, what platforms is the game on?
Yeah, so, we're building this for PC, initially.
You know, mobile is huge, but I think PC is the best for, like, specific, you know, graphic quality and mechanics.
So, we're really pushing for PC.
It's built on Unreal Engine, which is the same engine used as Fortnite, for example.
So, you'll see a lot of resemblance to Fortnite, which is good.
And then, yeah, we're launching the mini app, which is, of course, mobile.
I love that.
Have you guys ever discussed a console game?
Like, is that something that gaming companies building in Web3 even talk about at the boardroom?
I'm only asking because yesterday we were talking about Sony's blockchain.
I mean, these big companies getting their own chain.
Like, I think that could be big for gaming.
That's huge.
Yeah, Sony's blockchain.
And then, also, Ubisoft, Square Enix.
A lot of the, like, Asian companies are really pushing for Web3 gaming nowadays.
Even, you know, some of them investing secretly, you know, through other subsidiaries and other Web3 companies.
I think we've only seen just one game that is crypto-related that is going to be launching on console.
I think that's Rage Effect, if I'm not mistaken, or some other Web3 game that recently announced.
Yeah, Rage Effect, I think Big Time may have mentioned it, but those are two big ones.
Because I know making a console game, like, that's way harder than, like, a lot of the stuff we see out here.
That's a big thing.
Exactly, exactly.
All right, very, very cool.
Like, I like the game.
So, are you guys going to do some big Play to Air Drop campaign?
How are you going to bring in a lot of players?
We will.
You know, first of all, I think once we launch on Hyperplay, which is going to be really soon, that's going to be a big milestone.
And after that, there's going to be a couple of ways we're going to do activations and bring people on board.
First of all, of course, we want to keep everyone happy.
We want to, you know, incentivize usage, just as you would, you know, incentivize usage of a testnet when you're a Layer 1, Layer 2.
We also want to incentivize usage of our game, right?
So, we're going to be rewarding our users multiple ways.
First of all, we're going to offer them, like, a leaderboard-based reward.
So, the more you play and the, you know, more score, more points you earn, the bigger it's going to be your reward.
You're going to be able to play with your friends.
So, potentially, you know, we can even, like, post some live spaces here and play all together and see who scores the more, you know, the more points.
And, yeah, I mean, we're going to do that and then the free mint is also definitely going to take a role in the future airdrop.
And, yeah, you know, that's pretty much the approach.
We want to do things a bit differently, you know, than it's usually done.
We really want to be selective with the airdrop and, you know, to whom we give this to.
Because we'd much rather have, you know, a small community of pretty loyal people that, you know, went through the process of trying out the game, you know, providing feedback to the studio than just, you know, giving it away to people that, you know, are just coming by.
So, you know, we really appreciate people's support in that sense, you know.
Oh, very cool.
So, the NFTs are going to get tokens?
Yeah.
Oh, man.
I mean, I definitely need one now.
Man, so how many NFTs in the collection?
Tell me a little about that.
We're still defining the size, to be honest, because it all depends on the demand.
You know, we don't really want to leave anyone out at this point.
But, you know, we do want to introduce some scarcity to the collection.
So, it's still, you know, it's still TBA, to be honest.
Okay.
All right.
I hear you there.
Same with us.
We're doing a small one, like 600.
So, we should probably get together and do some pretty cool co-events and give away some waitlist spots together.
I think that would be dope.
Absolutely.
Let's see it.
I love what you said about keeping the community small and making sure you're finding people are helping out, like, testing gaming, giving feedback.
What's been your guys' approach to building that community and making sure that everybody is kind of gelling and making friends and really kind of supporting each other?
Yeah, that's a good question.
So, you know, one thing that I learned, so just going way back to, like, my time when I was in San Francisco, I was listening to this person that basically explained that, you know, there's this concept called super users.
And super users are your first kind of users that, you know, really like the product and just test it, you know, all the way through and they're active on your community.
So, I always say, you know, for founders, you know, you need to become your product super user.
That's number one.
You need to know your product from, like, head to toes.
And also, you know, for your community, you need to find those people and you need to be able to identify those super users because they're the ones that are going to be providing you, you know, the most valuable feedback.
And also, they're going to be providing the direction and, you know, they're kind of like a signal towards, you know, what's the reception on the community.
So, in terms of that, we're always, you know, I like to just go every day to our, for example, Discord chat.
It's, you know, it's been exploding with activity and just, you know, send a message, you know, hey, how's it going, guys?
And I just start, you know, interacting with our users in that way we can, you know, get a hold of what they're feeling, what they're going through right now.
And once we launch the game, we're also going to be hosting, you know, game nights and where we can play with our community.
And, of course, just, you know, have a chat with them, right?
I think it's all about that.
And then you can just scale that, you know, when your community becomes bigger, you can just, you know, scale that with hiring multiple people to just, you know,
get feedback from the community, right?
That's awesome.
And I just want to double click on that for any other project owners in the audience.
Like, it's so important to be in your community, interacting with them, showing you're there, you know, playing the game too.
That's such a great point.
You have to be a super user too.
So, I love that.
Like, super bullish on that.
Sounds like you guys really know what you're doing in regards to that.
And, you know, everybody loves it when that project owner comes in and gives them a little extra attention.
When they see that, like, their effort has been noticed.
And it's like, oh, wow.
Cool.
You're talking to me?
That's awesome.
Like, I would love that.
I definitely know I would love that.
So, glad you guys are doing that.
Yeah.
I appreciate it.
I appreciate the fact.
Yeah.
Well, 100%.
Like, one thing that we were talking about before is that a lot of people out here on Twitter, the community members, they want that recognition.
So, interacting with them, highlighting their content, big tournaments, everything for the community.
Like, that's the best way, in my opinion, to get these things done.
Like, I'm excited for it.
This looks pretty cool.
So, everything is going to be on Tawn.
The NFT, the token, the game.
Like, you guys are all about the Tawn ecosystem.
Yeah.
I mean, the plan is, you know, for us to be absolutely Tawn native.
There are a couple things that we need to solve.
For example, you know, if we plan to launch on certain launchpads, they still don't really support Tawn.
And I think that's an initiative that we might want to take a look at to maybe push forward, you know, talking to the foundation, see if they're interested in, you know, maybe just, you know, pushing forward the support for these launchpads to support Tawn.
I think that's really going to be, you know, it's going to open up a lot of, you know, hurdles that all of these Tom projects are going through when they're not able to launch on certain launchpads, even though they meet the KPIs.
I think that's one of the big reasons, like, why we are considering on doing an EVM token version as well.
So then, you know, of course, it's going to be bridgeable, but it's going to allow us to, you know, conduct the sales on those launchpads.
I did have a meeting with Tawn Acceleration, and I mentioned this to them.
So it could be interesting to potentially figure out if we can, you know, massively support Tawn on all of these ecosystems, right?
Right now, I definitely agree with you there.
Like, you see the big ones launching on exchanges, but one, that's pretty expensive unless you're on the level of hamster combat.
And even the projects that aren't launching on the big exchanges, if you're on other chains, like, I've heard people talk about launching on Uniswap instead of going on some of the big exchanges and spending all that money if you're on ETH.
And, you know, there's comparable options for Solana.
You could always go with Jupiter, but there's nothing really like that for Tawn.
Like, we've got a bunch of different pump fund platforms.
Like, there's no shortage on Tawn of the ability to launch a meme coin, but there's not really alternatives to the big exchanges yet.
And I think we're going to get something in the next few months.
I think there's going to be a few more options.
Yeah, I have no doubts that, you know, the ecosystem is going to keep on growing.
Actually, I was reading that, you know, the activity on Tawn, it's been, I think it's never been more active than right now.
Also, it's growing in TVL.
So, people are just coming in with, you know, with their USDT and, you know, just participating in different parts of the ecosystem.
Also, they reached, I think, 1 billion or more than 1 billion in USDT minted natively on Tawn, which is huge.
I definitely think that it's going to keep on growing.
I think it's a priority for Tawn to, you know, accept a lot of these USDT people to come in.
And, yeah, I'm just really excited about what's coming for the ecosystem.
Oh, me too.
You know, USDT is one of two tokens that have more holders than dogs.
Like, the biggest meme coin out there.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, man.
Dogs is crazy.
Dogs is crazy.
People are sleeping on Tawn.
Like, there's so much happening out here.
And one thing I love about what you guys are doing, you've got everything all in the same chain.
Like, the Tapper games as some sort of, you know, extra community incentive or used as a funnel to bring players into the real game.
That's what a lot of the big companies are already talking about.
You guys are doing it, keeping everybody on Tawn.
You've got the NFT cooking.
I mean, this is a – I like what you're doing.
This is really cool.
Yeah, we're excited.
With the Telegram game and the AAA game, it's such a great way to keep your users, like, active and playing when they're just out and about doing their daily lives.
So, like, when they have time at the end of the night and then you can go just full degen on their computer, they've got more cool stuff to play with and to do.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Even, like, if I'm away, right, let's say I'm on my way to work and I'm on the bus or, you know, on the train and, you know, I want to keep on working on my GBTWars account or I want to keep on working on my, you know, leveling up my account, I can still do so, you know, by playing the game, the Telegram mini app game.
And when I get home, I can just, you know, reap the rewards and have some fun with my friends online, right?
So, I think it's a pretty interesting concept and, you know, we're yet to see what are the, you know, what is the extent of a lot of these ideas, but we really want to push the boundaries in that sense.
I think this is going to become the new standard.
I think you guys are really doing something cool here.
Like, everybody's need to keep their eye on GBTWars.
Like, that integration, like you just said, is such a cool feature.
It's so cool.
Yeah, and last question before you guys got to go.
So, what do you think about CZ getting out pretty soon?
I mean, is that the official start of the bull market?
Is CZ going to come drop a tapper game on Tan?
Like, maybe that's his next endeavor.
Like, CZ's fresh out of jail tapper game.
We'll see.
Yeah, we'll see.
It could definitely be an interesting date.
You know, we all say that October is usually really bullish.
So, everything just coincides to that date, you know, 29th of September.
It's just the end of September, the start of October.
So, we might see something like that.
I'm definitely looking forward to it.
100%.
And, man, thanks for coming out.
I want to throw it over to KC.
I don't know if you've got any last words for GBTWars before they head out.
But, we still got some hot news to talk about.
I want to tell you guys what happened on PolyMarkets.
But, go ahead, KC.
Good morning, everybody.
GBTWars, I got my eyes on you.
But, David, I think you're a little bit back, you know, on the update.
Because I think there's already a CZ topper or something.
I don't know.
I saw something last night about CZ or Binance or something.
Of course there is.
So, Binance, CZ, Bullrun.
I think it's going to happen anyway.
Even if CZ doesn't get to come out or anything, right?
It's inevitable.
Ton is definitely going to be the, you know, the mover for this run.
And I'm just so excited.
It feels so good to be here.
It feels so good to be Hurley.
And, yeah, I just wanted to say that real quick.
Hold on, KC.
So, you don't think CZ's getting out?
Like, you'd think a few days before he's scheduled to get out, he's going to get into some big prison brawl.
And they'll add an extra year on to his sentence.
CZ, CZ's going to be walking out.
People will start talking shit saying they don't like Binance anymore.
They're not doing anything.
CZ's going to come over the top and say, what?
Wait until I get out.
I'll show you.
And then they're going to say, nope, I got a bunch of shorts open.
You're not getting out.
And then that's it.
Like, KC, is that how it's going to go down?
I didn't say nothing.
It's probably nothing.
You know how it is.
I've never said anything.
He went in a scrawny nerd.
And he's coming out a buff, you know, beefcake tank with tattoos everywhere.
Bro, that would make me buy BNB.
If CZ comes out and he's literally jacked like Pavel Durov, bro, I mean, how many kids is CZ going to drop after that?
Like, he hears what we're talking about on Twitter.
He's like, okay, that's what they want to see now.
They want me to have 69 million kids.
They want me to have a six pack.
Let's get it in.
Binance to 100 billion.
Those are the only three things you need for a successful crypto project.
So, guys, look for this in the founder.
Been to prison.
Jacked.
Has 69 million kids.
That's it.
We don't need anything else.
If you see that, you know it's going to moon.
Oh, bro, that's a solid formula.
Oh, shit.
All right.
We need to revisit this.
We need to come up with a tier list and a checklist for founders.
We'll do something fun with it and post it on Twitter down the line.
But all right, guys, what did we miss earlier?
You know what else we need to do?
We need to take a quick break.
Look what Grim just put up on the screen.
I just shared the memes, guys.
Oh, man.
If y'all are not on the stream, Grim just whipped something up with mid-journey or Dolly,
and we're looking at a buff CZ in a prison uniform.
Can we post that in the comments?
Can someone – how do we get that in the comments?
Someone needs to do something.
Anybody in the audience, take us.
Devs do something.
But all right, friend, what did we miss earlier?
Did we even go in – did we even talk about the Trump token?
What do we got?
Oh, no.
Guys, we need to talk about this.
Yesterday was hot.
Yeah, let's get into that.
They did the space.
They talked about it a little bit.
So, I mean, Donald Trump – one thing that I caught from that interview is that Trump loves NFTs.
I mean, that's a – I don't know if he was just saying it, but Trump said that him doing the first NFT collection was what really opened his eyes to crypto.
And something that he really highlighted was the instantaneous settlements all across the world.
I mean, I've been saying – I think that's one of the main value props for games out here.
Like, every game around the world can accept players from anywhere around the world.
Like, that's huge.
And you got someone like Trump with a DeFi platform.
Those guys are already certified professionals at raising money.
Like, how much money do you think they can bring in, like, to the platform?
These platforms in DeFi, it's all about TVL.
Like, people aren't even donating money.
They're making money.
Like, all Trump has to do is say, hey, guys, deposit some money here, and you're going to make more money.
Like, that seems like a winning formula.
Well, and the other thing, too, is Trump being the businessman that he is and the global businessman, he's so well aware of how difficult it is to do the money stuff across borders and things like that.
Him kind of grasping that concept of crypto and how easy this makes it all to be, that makes me super bullish that we're going to have, if he gets in, some really strong policy changes or really start to push for things.
It might be a while in, right?
You know, he can't do everything right away, but this is some really good stuff.
And especially, like, the other cool thing, too, is how much he's listening to his kids about crypto.
You know, he realizes that he's too old.
Like, he's never going to fully grasp it and get all the degen stuff, but his kids do.
You know, his kids have been big advocates for this stuff for him, and he's really done an awesome job listening to them and bringing them along for that ride.
And I think it's really showing.
It's really making him kind of be more relevant to us, you know, 20, 30 millennial Gen Z folks.
Oh, man.
Speaking of his kids, last night on Polymark, I mean, it was basically free money.
Like, it was the most obvious bet on there.
One of the words on the card, and I'm a word alpha caller.
I know all about words.
I've read the dictionary.
I know so many different words that may one day appear on Polymark.
But Barron was on there.
I mean, Trump talking about NFTs with Farouk.
Come on, guys.
Him saying, Barron, that was one of the most obvious bets that you could have done.
That was like right in your face.
And it was plus money.
Like, $100 would have won you $150.
I only put $500 on it.
I'm feeling like I may need to up the clip size for Trump's next interview.
Definitely.
Definitely.
I don't know.
How was that one, like, plus money?
Because I thought obvious bets usually, like, they're kind of the sucker bet just to get you in and you end up losing.
Tell me about that, Dave.
You're the DJ better.
I have no idea how it was plus money because that was, like, the most obvious one on the card.
One other one, like, NFT was on there, which a lot of people may have been fading the crypto words or crypto-associated words because they have been missing the past every single one except the Bitcoin Nashville interview or speech he did.
But NFT hit, crypto over four and a half hit.
But, yeah, Barron plus 150.
And it jumped up right before they started it.
So I don't know if someone found out that Barron was going to be on the space.
I didn't know he was going to be on the space.
Once he was on the space, like, that was, you know, that was pretty much a given.
But I don't know.
I remember you mentioning that.
I got some good Polymarket instincts.
And you caught that very early, right, David?
The Barron one.
Yeah, I did.
That's the beauty of Polymarkets.
Like, I don't even know if anyone can open a line because I've never tried.
I've heard people say that.
But I'm going to look more into it.
But, yeah, Barron was on there.
There were some that had really low payouts that were just kind of, you know, that people put them up there for fun.
We had Retardio up there at 2%, which would have been a 50 to 1 payout.
It had M'Lady up there at 3%.
It would have been a 33 to 1 payout.
NFT, I don't even remember what it opened at.
I want to say around 20%.
So that would have been a, or what, was a 5 to 1.
But, yeah.
And what I love about Polymarkets is that the odds change.
Like, if a lot of people will bet on one side, it adjusts a lot faster than some of these other platforms.
Like, most of the sportsbooks and betting sites, they get their lines directly from Vegas.
Polymarkets, I don't know how they do it, but I know that they're not taking the lines from Vegas.
I'm pretty sure they're doing something in-house.
And, look, I mean, it's fun.
I'm paying attention to politics and shit because of Polymarkets.
We, the world is not ready for David 10x to be putting bets on Polymarket and opening his own, or excuse me, opening his own lines on Polymarket.
We are not, we're not ready for that level of degeneracy.
Please don't, David.
Just don't even look into it.
Just don't subject us to that.
I beg you.
Oh, no.
I was going to, I want to open some, but you know what I really want?
All right.
There's two things that I really want to see on Polymarkets.
One of them is to be able to parlay some of these words.
I want to put, like, four of them, four of them together in a bet, throw 100 bucks on it, and have the chance to win, like, 10,000.
And I want Poly, look, we've got to get a Polymarkets card for Dana White post-fight interviews.
Because Dana White says the most wild shit, and he's one of the most entertaining people out here.
Like, everybody loves the UFC anyways.
Because that's something that they need to do.
Polymarkets, if you're listening, we need that.
We need that ASAP.
That would be absolutely incredible.
Oh, my gosh.
David, you've given me a new purpose in life.
Dana, all I'm going to say is Dana White, Polymarkets card.
It's got to be on there.
It's got to be on there.
But, man, like, back to the Trump token, like, is this, are you guys bullish on this, or is this, is it too big of a risk?
Like, my main thing, and I said this in a few spaces yesterday, if Trump doesn't get elected, this, like, their, oh, SEC, DO, everybody, every three-letter agency within a million miles of America is going after that.
And if they don't, if Trump wins, I mean, he's, he's friendly with a lot of world leaders.
I, I, I want to, I want to believe that somehow he's going to be a good founder, he's going to try to pump our bags, and he's going to be shilling the token.
Like, maybe not on the news, but somehow, some way, he's going to end up attracting a lot of money there.
Like, is it, is it worth it?
I mean, he's had some good success with his crypto projects in the past.
I mean, that's, that's always a pretty good sign.
He's, he knows what he's doing when it comes to business.
The, the other big thing, the other big thing, I just lost that thought.
But, um, but one thing, uh, friend, uh, wasn't the advisors on his team from another project that apparently had a big hack issue with, like, security, and they helping him build this world, Liberty Financial?
Isn't that the only thing that we are getting?
I think, I think the dude, um, they, they said his name on one of the other spaces yesterday.
It just slipped my mind, but he did work with a few other projects, but he's not, he's not the dev.
Like, any kind of hack, anything like that, it definitely wouldn't be the spokesperson.
Like, we all know how devs are.
Devs, devs rarely talk if they know how to talk at all.
Like, all, all they do is, you know, one to zero.
No, the thing that I heard, though, David.
We, the devs, the devs need to program it to go up and to the right.
I think Trump would be able to attract the best devs out here.
Well, I, I, I think so as well.
The, the only, uh, issue that I heard people were discussing about was that he's actually
utilizing the same technology that was used for this other platform that was hacked.
But that's why people are a bit worried that the, the, the platform might, you know, face
the same kind of issues in the future.
I doubt that.
That seems, that seems like a rookie mistake that they wouldn't make.
Also, like, they know how much is on the line.
Like, you, you can't, you can't even just launch it.
You need to launch this and it needs to be a big success and it needs to make people
a lot of money.
Otherwise, we know typical crypto Twitter fashion.
Everybody loves Trump right now.
But if he launches a token and it doesn't do good, not, not everybody's going to love
him after that.
Like they, they, they know the game.
They know how it works.
So, I mean, look, if the, if it's a big success, that's a, that, that's gotta be a huge bump
in the numbers.
Like that's gotta have a positive effect on the campaign.
That's it right there.
There's so much on the line for Trump that everything has to go amazing.
Like it, it, it would ruin Trump's brand for it not to be absolutely insane.
Right?
Like, cause that's all of what Trump is great, best, bigger, bigger, bigger.
So they're going to do literally everything in their power to make this thing just go to
the moon.
And, you know, one of the big reasons is if he doesn't win, he probably needs some excellent
liquidity to get out of the U S because you're absolutely right, David, if he doesn't win,
like everyone's coming after him and, you know, this just came into my head and I don't
know anything about the legal side of it, but like, how does that funding work?
Because crypto is so easy for anybody to buy, you know, and you know, there's like such
tight regulations on who can donate and disclosures of stuff for campaign stuff.
And I don't know how that all crosses together.
If it does anything, do you guys know anything about that?
Or we just honestly, I have, I've got no idea, but I do know how some of these politicians
think and the majority of them have the mindset of get the money now, worry about the problems
later.
So, I mean, let's, let's see what happens.
I would love to see a few politicians.
I got the info by the way, guys.
I want to see, okay, so I got the info about what's the concern and the thought about.
So the project code base is very similar to the ones that was used for dark finance, which
experienced a $2 million hack in the past.
So that's why people are like, you know, what's going to happen?
But they found it as a red flag because of the code base is very similar.
So if they are, you know, utilizing because the founders of dark finance, I actually, what's
similar though?
What's similar though?
Because I know with some of this code and the smart contracts, you could change less than
one line, like four or five, six characters, half a line in there.
And it's, it's completely different.
I would assume that they found out whatever went wrong with the first one.
And, you know, one, one, one other thing with these political groups, there are not many
people who understand crypto and Twitter and the way we do things and launching tokens.
You can look it up.
You can Google it, but every guys try, try to Google it and then tell me if that's actually
how things work.
You get some of these political operatives and, you know, in our world, we'll call them
the shady marketing or KOL guys.
They get their way into one of the political camps or celebrity camps, yeah, I mean, Hey,
it's a, you get one story from that person and then you, you, you get the other stories
and look like we, we saw it firsthand.
We did a space with, um, I don't think we did it with Scottie Pippen, but Scottie Pippen
launched, launched his token.
There's other people doing the marketing, same thing with the celebrities, but it's just higher
stakes with the politicians, which means you're going to attract a higher tier of talent,
whether it's grifting talent or whether it's talent talent, you're, you're going to, you're
going to attract the best.
Yeah.
I think that's such a big thing with like, what is similar?
Cause like, isn't all code basically just copy and pasted from stack overflow at this
point.
I don't like, are we, does anybody write original code?
So I wouldn't be too early, especially because of that reputation.
If this doesn't go well, his whole campaign is shot.
So, you know, you know, at the very least it's going to be good through November after
then, you know, it's up in the air, but at least through the election, you're going to
be printing money with that.
Yep.
I mean, look, I'm, I, I think, I think it's going to do good.
Like that's how I look at some of these tokens when there's a lot riding on the line, like
regardless of the speculation and the noise you see on Twitter, I want to look to see
who stands to gain a lot, who stands to lose a lot, not, not financially, but like, you
know, reputation, clout, whatever else they're working on.
And this is just too big for them to leave to chance.
Like, it's not something that I think is going to be dictated by the quote unquote open markets
like we'd like to see out here on Twitter.
But man, speaking of making money, like we've, we've been going over the, the Trump token.
We're probably going to be talking about it more throughout the week, but rate cuts, like
is that friend, do you, do you know about this kind of stuff?
Like, or what's a, what's a rate cut going to do?
Is that going to pump my meme coins?
I see Elizabeth Warren wants a rate cut.
I already hate her.
She doesn't like crypto.
I don't like her.
I don't like to read about her, but if she's going to cut the rates or whatever, and it's
going to make my bags pump, like I'll, I'll hate her a little less.
So what I know about rate cuts is largely just from conversations with K2 talking about
different things.
And the big thing he's always told me every single time, like, did you hear about the
Fed me?
He goes, don't worry.
It's all hype.
Pretty much everything's already been priced in because once the actual rate cut is announced,
it's based on some other leading thing that's more closely tied with real estate.
I believe we'll have to get him on and have him like give the full spiel on it, but basically
like, you're not going to see a ton.
Like you'll probably see a good little pump that day because that's always what happens
or it'll tank, whichever, you know, whichever way it goes.
You get some good movement then, but then it's just going to flatten out back to about
where it was.
All right, whatever.
So not, not even, not even a big deal.
Still don't like Elizabeth Warren.
Get out of, get out of here, Elizabeth Warren.
But all right, what else, what else do we got?
I mean, there was, there's some, there's some juicy, juicy news.
The one that really stood out to me too is Bhutan having $780 million in Bitcoin with a
GDP of 3 billion.
Like this is a tiny, tiny country that's putting so much money into Bitcoin.
That is like a very bullish indicator.
You know, I'm sure a lot of it has to do with unstable currency, maybe government corruption
before, or, you know, different things like that, that happens in those small countries.
But this is really interesting in that they're now, that countries are now kind of able to
almost tap into that, a new global reserve currency to help stabilize some of their economy
by holding all of this.
Right.
And like, it's now allowing them to start making money as crypto goes up, which is if they do
it right, if they're a good government, that means they can lower taxes.
You know, like maybe even pay for everything, have a surplus because of crypto and Bitcoin
if it keeps going up like people say it is.
But this is, I think that's super cool.
I think that's super cool to see more of that.
Where, where is Bhutan?
Is that, is that a country that we can visit and we could go live at?
Like, do they have, they have fast wifi?
Do they, where, where is it?
Because countries that have 700 million plus in Bitcoin, you know, I want to do my degen
duty and, and go visit them.
Is that Africa or Eastern Europe, Graham?
I, I asked that because I'm awful.
I, I would say it's even more toward Asia at this point.
I will show you on the map.
You guys can see it.
Is it, is it close to Puke?
Like, can we go, can we go visit Puke?
It's right next to, well, I think so.
I think so.
I mean, if you look at it, it's like right next to China.
Oh yeah.
Right between China and India.
And, and Puke is down here, Malaysia.
Okay.
That's not too bad.
Okay.
So is it a nice place?
Like, do we go, do we go vacation there and host some spaces in Bhutan?
I mean, maybe.
Let's see.
It looks very.
I'm going.
Book me a flight.
All right.
That's where.
That's where.
Mountain region.
Like, like, like Tibet.
Like Tibet.
You know, Tibet, like monks.
That looks dope.
That's pretty dope.
So we get to go, we get to go train with the, train with the Shaolin monks.
Like, where are they keeping all the Bitcoins when you see something like this?
Well, they got, they got the Bitcoins in those ancient temples.
Like they, they know what they're doing.
They got the Bitcoin there.
They're guarding it.
Ancient Bitcoin temples.
Oh, you know, you know, you're not getting that Bitcoin.
Good luck to any hackers out there.
Right.
You know, there was the Knights Templar or something like that, that passed through just
long time ago, building secret passages and things like, look at those buildings.
You can't tell me there isn't just a network of caves in those mountains.
Oh shit.
Like, I actually, I actually want to go there now.
Who would have thought that buying 700 million worth of Bitcoin would probably be something
that attracts tourism?
Man, maybe, maybe other countries could start doing that.
Like buy Bitcoin, get people to come visit.
I don't know if it's Bhutan, but looking at these pictures, it's definitely one of the
countries in the region, like actively, like kind of dissuades tourism.
They don't really want it because they're trying to preserve a lot of this cultural heritage.
I think a lot of these.
Well, then why are they buying Bitcoin?
Like Bitcoin, obviously, makes people want to visit you.
You buy Bitcoin so you don't need tourists.
Well, they're buying Bitcoin so they don't have to buy gold and Bitcoin goes up so they
make more money with it instead of gold, you know, price.
They don't, they don't understand the culture.
Like we, we support the community.
If you're holding some of the same tokens as I am, I'm going to, I'm going to want to
come visit you.
Like DGENs are, DGENs are friendly.
We, we like meme coins and monkey pictures and we're, we also like to visit.
But I mean, like when your country is all about wearing simple robes and walking around,
like they've kind of got fuck you money already.
And you know, they just like, we like our own DGENs.
We're going to stay here.
Go away.
Well, we'll have to, we'll have to revisit that one.
Well, we'll have to, we'll have to revisit that one.
But man, one, one thing that I made a little bit more before you had to Bhutan, David,
I think, I don't know if they, they would accept you before then.
They'll, they'll accept me.
I, I got a, I think I know someone in Bhutan.
I think they also got crypto mining.
I was reading something about it, but yeah.
Who knew?
We're about to get on the hour guys.
Billion dollars in crypto and mining operations.
Oh man, that's actually pretty cool.
Maybe that's where all the, all the Bitcoin came from, but all right, guys, we're, we're
about to wrap this one up for the day.
Well, one thing I want to ask both of you, Fran and Grim, like I caught apart from the,
from the Trump interview.
He said that we're going to be living in hell if he's not elected.
Like speaking about us and crypto and everything like that.
Like, do you, do you guys really think it's, it's that serious?
Like if Trump doesn't get elected, everything's going to go downhill.
Or do you think it's a typical political stuff blown out of proportion, scare people into
getting some votes?
I think this is typical Trump talking point sound bites.
You know, he knows, he knows what to say.
Like whatever your feelings and thoughts about Trump, pay attention to his interviews and
what he says.
He is a master communicator, a genius marketer.
He knows what he's doing and I bet you it's to stir up a little bit of a frenzy.
It's to get people, cause you know, look at, look at the people in crypto, you know, it's
a lot of kind of anti-government, anti-establishment type people, you know, us DGens, we probably
wouldn't be likely to vote in a lot of cases and probably haven't had a big history of voting.
So they really need to stir us up and be like, Hey, if you, if you don't vote for me, everything
that you've been working for, this whole crypto thing is going out the window, right?
And he's got a little bit, a little bit to stand on there because Harris and them have
been pretty quiet about crypto.
They've been anti-crypto in the past.
I know they've been like waffling a little bit on that, but he has a very easy way to
stir that up because they just haven't said much, right?
They haven't said really much of anything.
So it's a very easy thing for people to buy into and believe.
So I don't think it's going to be that bad, you know, that government's slow to move on
everything.
So if Harris gets in, I don't think that's going to be your big priority, but it's definitely
a great talking point to get people out and voting.
And, you know, if it gets people to vote, like, great, you know, like I hope more people
vote whichever way they go for.
And if it gets them to do it, I think, you know, that's a net good.
Look, I'm going by what I see on Twitter, because since I stopped getting my news from pump
fund, I have to get my news from Twitter.
So I saw that Kamala wants to take 25% of all my crypto.
I'm not I'm not feeling that.
I saw that she wants to make Gary Gensler the president of all of the money.
I don't want Gary Gensler doing that.
And I saw a few rumors that SBF might get out and Kamala might make him director of the
SEC, which, um, guys, three, three strikes and you're out.
Like, I want I want Trump.
He's got tokens.
He's got the platform and he's got kids that know crypto.
Like, I think that's the biggest factor.
Like, you've got kids, you've got a whole family and everybody in the family has an idea
of what crypto is, what to do with it, the possibilities.
So that's that's what I'm going with.
Like, Trump Trump's Trump's for the culture.
I think Trump mogs.
And I'm going to leave I'm going to leave it at that.
Let's let's hop more into into it tomorrow.
But I want to thank everybody for coming out.
All the listeners, all the speakers, everybody.
We're going to have somebody else on here tomorrow.
Friday, we got the big time spaces.
Everybody check out the Mech three game and have a have a great day.
We're going to have a great day.
