Thank you. you Hey, how's it going?
Sorry, I'm still getting some stuff set up real quick.
I'm just going to try and post and retweet the space.
I'm going to get some stuff.
If you want to pin anything, just let me know.
We can put throwouts to fill there too. Awesome.
We'll do that. Thanks. can you guys hear me sure can all right perfect
how's it going hi it's, it's going good.
But I'd be lying to you if I didn't tell you I ran from one side of the house to the other.
Because I saw the time and was like, oh no.
It's just I'm out of shape.
Honestly, same. Good times. it's just i'm out of shape honestly same uh good time i was finishing up the episode of ted lasso and i was like oh it's time trying to get all caught up on that show yeah i'm just just figuring
this out now because of any time that i've used Cloudland before, because I'm
not know that they had the OpenSea option
they had just the option where you
have to connect your wallet to it.
Good to know that that is not the case.
We'll give it, we'll start in about a minute or two.
I'm going to start posting on Discord.
I just thought if I didn't grab a drink, I made a mistake.
Hopefully everybody else's day is going well.
It's been nonstop since like 6.30, so I'm glad to chill out for a little bit before bed.
We're still trying to hunker down a new place that we moved in.
Yeah. Moving's yeah? Yeah.
What we did this time is we asked the landlord of the old spot to give us two weeks.
And we just paid, like, the electric bill and gas bill.
So we could have two weeks to move in and we could
paint the old place a bit and clean it up so we can get our uh damaged deposit so oh yeah yeah
yeah i remember that we we bought a house a couple years ago but i remember all the
the apartments and making sure everything looks good and then we moved from a third
story apartment to a third story apartment one
time. And that was probably the biggest mistake of my life.
Yeah. We, we sold our place in, um, in Vancouver.
Oh yeah. Yeah. And then moved here to Mexico. And, um, yeah, the, um,
the whole mentality of a tenant and landlord is way different over here.
They're not as high and tight as I feel like landlords are in Canada and the United States.
But that also means that when you have them to fix something, it's done halfway rather than all the way.
Yeah, it's a trade-off there.
But, I mean, renting a four-bedroom house for $1,000 rather than $3,500 is worth it.
Oh, yeah, shit might be in Mexico.
We're in Merida, which is like in the south part of Mexico.
We're like two hours driving away from Cancun.
Hey, that's not bad at all.
So we're not in the crazy hustle bustle and party central.
We're more in a relaxed city, I mean.
Well, good. good well that's fun
um yeah that's awesome i need to get out there and travel more i've never left the united states so i need to change that at some point well if you ever travel somewhere the first place you
should go is japan that's all i can say. I've heard nothing but good things about Japan.
already six times. That's how much I like it.
I gotta go. I just want to eat all the food.
That's all I see is food.
I'm like, you know, we don't...
I mean, there's places similar in the United States,
but it's not the same thing as getting it in the country
Absolutely. That's 100% true when my wife tasted sushi in Japan
She just looked at me and she's like oh they've been lying to us the whole time
Saying white people no I'm just kidding
That's awesome yeah I actually have a buddy of mine who is from China.
We work together and he's taking me and another coworker to what he calls is
is the closest thing to authentic Chinese barbecue you can get here.
And so he found some like place and he's going to take us there Saturday.
So excited to try it and see.
Especially coming from him.
we made a joke and he was like,
I know what it's supposed to taste like.
we go ahead and we get started.
I think, yeah, ghosty's here you're here yeah i mean do you want to just start just a little background tell us about yourself how you got into web 3 and
you know all the fun icebreaker questions people ask you absolutely absolutely um i got into web
3 like the majority of people thinking i could could make a million dollars in my first NFT.
I'm on my way. I am $999,999 away from doing that.
That's the best answer. I love that.
But yeah, I saw the news and I was into crypto back then, but then I saw about NFTs and then, yeah, I got into it.
I got into it just before the craze happened and things were going for triple the prize and 10x and whatever.
Then we hit our big bear back in, I think it was 22 or 23 around that time.
And that's when I evolved.
That's when my thought process changed rather than seeing that I'm not going to be able to make a quick buck.
Then I should just stick to collecting art.
I mean, trust me, I have a big folder of right-click save.
But then there's some things I really want to mint and I really want to keep and you
know be the owner of it on blockchain yeah and then that curiosity of wanting to create a project
stuck with me for a long time and you know I thought about probably doing one-to-ones on
Tezos which was very accessible and a lot of the collectors on Tezos are just there for the art.
There's no flipping on Tezos.
And then we got hit with the Solana meme coin craze that sucked a lot of equity and made
And during that phase, when I got introduced into Solana, I followed a one-to-one artist.
And he was selling this collection that he had, this art that he had since 2022.
He just never found the right time to launch the project.
And he announced it on his X account.
And I was like, hey, I don't know how to draw a stick.
So I'll better take an opportunity of doing this.
That's me. I feel you on that.
Exactly. So I bought it off him. I even have like an invoice.
It was all very official and it was great.
And I sat on it for a year.
You know, I was like, oh, should I launch it on Solana, on ETH, on Tezos even?
And then all these coins came up and I hesitated on that part.
And so what happened was Abstract came along and I said, okay, this is it.
Abstract's getting a lot of attention.
But then I saw that it was just getting it was like a country club kind
of thing you know you know you need to know the right people to launch a
project so then it can mint out and whatnot yeah and it was kind of
confusing I'm a boomer I just turned 43 so the whole abstract wallet I think
you're not that old not that old but in in crypto world that's yeah I'm an old
man well hey you know you have more wisdom than all of us put together, so we need that.
And then Peke Lord came along, and I knew him through an ETH project called Fangang.
And he announced I'm launching sleuths on Ape Chain.
I was like, wait, Ape Chain, is that with Ape Coins?
So then I dug into it and I researched more.
And yeah, I realized that, you know, that door opened.
And I thought, okay, this is amazing.
You know, it's still very art-focused, community-focused.
You are able to flip if you want to.
I mean, you're not going to 4x or 10x,
but you mint it for 10, 8,
and you could probably get 28.
So the whole DGEN mentality
isn't predominant as it is on ETH
He gave me a few hints on what to do, and that was it.
I found my blockchain, and Primates is here.
And big shout out to Primates and a big hug.
That was my second project that I got into, and I started going to spaces.
And what I realized on the spaces in ApeChain is that they're very protective.
Not gatekeeping, but very protective.
They don't want products coming in just to suck the liquidity.
They want products to come in and take a test of the market.
You know, don't mint your project at $498.
You know, be realistic, be smart.
So then that was something that I learned and I had to keep that in mind.
So then that was something that I learned and I had to keep that in mind.
So then I selected Blevr because I heard a lot of things about Blevr and a lot of, you know, I could get a lot of attention and reach through them.
And then the last thing was like, okay, now I have to find the right price. price and that's why I minted it for Ape because this project is more of like a
self-challenge, a proof to myself that I can create something, keep onto it and
continue building on it rather than just mint it and be like okay it's for the
art I totally was for the art I'm out and I get myself a mutant ape so so I
seems to be kind of a trend right now
when I saw that ape get into my wallet
I was like okay how about if I really
and then use it but I was like
no all the funds are going back into the project
splurge on myself was the G's
ape chain royalty it's like exactly exactly so that was how i got into it that's awesome
that's awesome that's amazing i mean we so forever angry is a project that me and the guy on the
forever angry account ghosty and then big n who's not here. But we just launched on Ape Chain, is it two weeks ago?
I think it's two weeks on Friday.
And so we kind of had the same conversation you did about, well, where do we want to launch?
And actually, hearing you talk, just remind me, I felt like we were back in one of our old conversations back in, like, March, where it was like, well, what chain, you know, Ape Chain was, Ape Chain's kind of hot right now.
They're really big on the art.
The community, they're strong.
Everyone there kind of supports each other kind of thing.
You know, no one's there.
I mean, I'm not going to say no one, because obviously we've seen projects come and go in the past couple of months.
I'm not going to say no one because obviously we've seen projects come and go in the past couple of months.
But, you know, we meant it at 6-8 because, again, we wanted, you know, we wanted people to be able to get in and not be like, oh, it's like, you know, $200 to get in.
That's not like we're focused on the community, not the floor price kind of thing.
So I think we share a lot of the same sentiments.
So it's fun to hear other other builders say the same thing, the same thoughts that we had when we were putting everything together.
other builders say the same thing, the same thoughts that we had when we were putting everything together.
No, absolutely, because, you know, ETH is very established, so the expectations on the get-go is very high.
And then, you know, Solana with the meme coins just became very degen.
And then you have other blockchains out there that, you know, they stand for themselves.
They manage, but it doesn't have as much attention to it. And what I really wanted was, you know,
to mint and continue working on it and still having the spotlight, not the spotlight, but
still have the attention, which I have to admit ghostly and, you know, Lil Ego and a lot of people really have helped out.
And that's true what you said.
I echo it, that a lot of the founders reached out and helped me and gave me advice, which
was kind of weird to see because I was used to ETH projects and I knew a lot of founders and a lot of artists
that it was dog eat dog while an ape.
It's, look, I learned this.
I'll share this knowledge with you.
I'm still going to work hard to get my project up and going,
but if you need my help, just reach out.
So that's the kind of idea, the kind of mentality Ape Chain has
and that's why I also geared towards it. yeah no i 100 agree and i just feel like also again i haven't been
in the space super long so it's only been seven months so i was not here for the you know glory
days but just from talking to you know hearing being in spaces you know peanut's been around
forever ghosty's been around forever like talking to those two guys a lot.
I feel like, personally, the space has changed.
And more of the creators that have stuck around through everything that are still here are, you know, despite our blockchain, are the more supportive of the people. Because I think they just, you know, are a testament to the fact that community holds through time.
Not the competitive side kind of thing. you know, are a testament to the fact that community holds through time, not,
not the, not the competitive side kind of thing.
The competition comes and dies, but the community,
you get a strong community, you're not going anywhere for a long time.
And so, cause I mean, we, when we minted,
I mean, we did reach out to quite a few Ape Chain communities, but it was,
cause I mean, gosh, I'm going to name,
I'm going to rattle off a bunch of chains that we're part of and if i miss one ghosty just please hop in there but i mean we're in
e base abstract um hyper liquid polygon polygon solana um chronos i'm not missing another one but between the three of us
like we got support from all different changes because we've shown support over the years and
it's just a mutual thing i feel like like you know like we're not taking advantage of that we weren't
like hey i supported you do this it was more of a more of a, you put it out there, if you will, support support.
And if people don't, we're not going to get butthurt over it.
We support those that support us, and if you don't support us, we're probably still going to support you back
just because that's kind of the space right now. I feel like that's more of a PVE approach,
which is our kind of gig, I feel like.
And I think the biggest thing, too, is, you know, over and over again, I think we've pretty
much yelled to the mountaintops type of thing where, you know, again, reflecting back on
the Mint process and getting to that point and all that stuff,
and talking with some of the other communities that we are involved with,
it's crazy how much support you get from the people that you don't think may give you the support that they give.
And what I mean by that is, you know, sometimes when you, and again, now showing my age, I guess, being 36 and growing up in New York, you start to have a mentality of, oh, well, because I'm going to support them, like they should be supporting me it's like we didn't go with that approach we we really went
with the approach of like it's cool i appreciate you if you do we're still going to sit here and
we're still going to support you because we do love the communities that we're involved in
um so it's like we we went through it a really like a ringer like to be honest, but it, it minted out the way that it did. We kept the, the, the price low.
And just like you, you know, you have, and it worked.
And our biggest thing is really the whole community aspect.
Like I, I, I love going into these other like general chats and,
and talking with, you know, people like Regens lost these,
like I don't want to name everybody
because then it'll take forever but going into these into these other chats and just seeing that
like out of nowhere like i think it was today it was either today or yesterday i like i i was just
i said hello said good morning and like 20 minutes later I go back into the chat and somebody posted up one of the bubbles pictures. Like, so it was, it was sick to see that, you know, and it's,
it's those little subtle things from these other communities that we're involved with that,
like it kind of, you know what I mean? It makes you feel good type of thing. I just want a whole
rant. I'm so sorry. No, it's all good. It's all good. And I agree with you.
And something that I spoke with a few founders, you know,
because I'd reach out to them and see how they're doing and whatnot,
and they're like, oh, everything's going okay.
I'm like, what do you mean the vibes are low?
It's like there's not a lot of traction on the project.
And I said, you know what?
Sometimes it's good when it's quiet because it just lets you focus
and you don't feel that pressure.
So, you know, I see it as a double-edged sword.
Yes, you want everybody to rave about your project and hype it up and whatnot.
But, you know, sometimes when things are quiet, then that lets you channel all your focus on something that needs to be done.
And, I mean, that helps me a lot.
But what I like about it as well is that you have a lot of authentic people just
GMing and saying, hey, and I love seeing when I wake up and that Skullcredders is tagged
And it really brightens up my day because even though i'm still working
behind the scenes people are still there and they're patient and and that's what i appreciate
oh yeah sorry i was trying to pull something up um yeah no it's it's awesome just like i said
it's community over everything i feel like it's how you went in the space it doesn't matter how long you take to mint or you know as long as people are
backing you and they're helping i feel like that's what we're all about right now um kind of going
back to skull critters you might have mentioned this earlier and i whiffed it on my brain um so
you did you say you bought the project from somebody yes Yes, he was a, he is a one-to-one artist on Solana.
And I reached out to him.
I did collect a few of his pieces and commissioned a few pieces as well.
And, um, I even got in touch with him when I was, before I was going to launch, when
I was launching and after launching saying, Hey, do you want me to mention you?
Do you want me to, um, he's he's like no i just want to say anonymous my art style has progressed a lot and and you know he
stuck to the one-to-ones if it's not broken don't try and fix it so i had to respect that yeah well
that's fair um let's say you know out of all the you know all the projects are there what what really drew you uh to purchase the skull critters
project i honestly liked the simplicity of it um i do too yeah i'm looking at it right now sorry
no no no no it's all good uh you know when i look at it it it it's clean lines not overly saturated
i mean don't get me wrong. There are some projects that
have so many traits that I love them and I like them and, you know, I have some of them, but,
um, this kind of reminds me of how doodles is, you know, you have different colors,
same traits, but in different colors. So I tried to go for that. Um, and, and it's just,
Um, and, and it's just, it's a double-edged sword because you don't want people hunting
rares, but you also don't want them to be only focused on that.
You want them to be focused on, okay, you know what?
I like the guy with the eye patch.
So let me go get that one rather than, no, I need the one that's like a one-to-one or,
or it has the rarity of top 5%.
I mean, if you want to go hunting for that, that's perfect.
But I like to keep it simple and close to each other so there's no, I got this and you don't, you know?
That's, yeah, that's really cool.
Like I said, I'm just looking at them right now.
I was looking at the page earlier, the, um,
I have two questions cause I just want to know everything, but, um, the gift,
the gift of the skull critter walking, are there more of those coming?
Yes, there are more coming. Um,
I was on a space with Garbage Friends and they were just talking about how this one artist that looked up to Marcus, Motion and Marcus, the creator of Invisible Friends, and how he took some of his courses.
And, you know, he was looking for gigs here and there.
And I was like, oh, let me see your work.
I'm like, okay, this really, I like how it goes.
So I got in touch with him and I told him, look, I would like three GIFs because I want to upload them on Giphy and have some IP recognition and have things been gone through there.
So we selected three GIFs.
The first one that he sent was simple.
I said, hey, can you just add like a few sad sprouts of grass?
You know, we can call it touching grass, but at the same time, it's kind of sad because just one or two pop up.
And I'm really happy with it.
I honestly like how it turned out to be.
But, you know, this is one of the things that I'm sure you as a founder,
you have to deal with it a lot is the following up and not, I don't want to say chasing, but
like trying to get back, trying to have them get back to you. Because the idea was to have
the three of them given in by within two weeks and three going for the fourth week and i'm i'm i'm i'm not the kind
of person that puts fire under your ass i'm like come on man you know i'm not gonna pay if you don't
i'm like you know what i get it but please just do this and you know try try and have it by that
time and yeah so so that's you know there's two more coming up. One of them is of a dance.
It's a, it's a famous dance.
Hopefully you recognize it when you see it.
And the other one is like a supercharge of power from the, from Dragon Ball.
Oh, so that's my favorite.
I'm, I'm, I'm hoping to get that one ASAP. I realize I double shared your gift, but that's my favorite. Yeah, yeah. I'm hoping to get that one ASAP.
I realize I double-shared your gift.
We're going to put it here twice.
And, you know, there's this great collector from Skull Critters,
And I've tried using AI and like I said, I'm a boomer. I don't know how to whisper to AI.
And he does these amazing videos of it.
So hopefully I can use a bit of AI because let's be honest,
it'll cut the cost of things by a lot.
But still, I would want to have art done.
So with this person, I'll probably ask for another three
and then try and work with the other collector
to see if we can create a few um ai especially simple ones just like
uh simple gifts or simple videos yeah oh yeah that's awesome yeah i just i've watched him
walking like three or four times it's mesmerizing i really like watching it really fun um the
characters in general are just really uh really unique i think that's what i look for most in
nft kind of like you're talking about like rarity for me is is what it is but like i really like unique stuff um i like unique stuff and
supporting good people in the space so um that's the two things i go for when i meant um i need to
pick up some skull critters still i have not but it's on my list for sure as soon as i fund my
wallet again um i just you know, we bought a lot
and I need to make sure the wife's not too mad
I stacked up the vault for the Skull Critters.
So once the staking platform is up and running,
those will be the rewards.
I've also tried doing, I promised that I wouldn't do merch, but then I thought about it.
I'm like, you know, sometimes it's nice to walk around and flaunt that, you know, your
So I thought long and hard, you know, what can I do that could be merged but at the same time stand out?
And I think I found the perfect merch idea, in my opinion.
And I'll just post it into Jumbotron.
I was going to say, we're about to get alpha. I'm ready.
Oh, I posted the wrong one.
I'm going to erase that one, and I'll put the correct one.
So I'm very, I don't know, but I'm tempted to say that I'm probably the first project that's created baseball jerseys as merch.
That's what I was just about to say.
I look like baseball jerseys.
So it has skull creators in the front and then it has the ape logo on the back because, you know, ape on top.
And then the number 25 because we minted in the year 2025
on the side it has a little badge and it's um it's like the skull critters baseball team so yeah
i like it that's awesome thank you thank you yeah i'm i'm excited it's a good thing also about being
here in mexico you can find a lot of places that do these so the company that's doing this does a lot of uh football or sorry soccer jerseys for second
division teams so i went up to them and i said look i'd like this i'd like that and uh you know
it's going to be flashy colors they're like that's fine we we can do that so i set up a poll and um
fine we we can do that so i set up a poll and um blue got first place then uh yellow and lastly pink
so i was i was gonna stick to one color but i just couldn't so i took the blue and yellow
yeah no that's awesome i really like how vibrant the colors are on the top
it's really nice thanks it's a good touch i like like it. That's awesome. Thank you. Thank you.
Sorry, I'm just looking at the page and I have more questions.
But the next thing I'd like to ask about is the corrupted critters.
Those look kind of cool. Can you tell us more about those?
Absolutely. I am obsessed and fascinated over how Bored Ape did the serum and then it mutated.
So I wanted to replicate that i want you know
best way to give homage is to you know mimic or do the same thing you know it's usually not a bad
thing and um but here's another thing i learned like you said maybe here's where the old wise
part of me comes in and i've seen that a lot of people don't appreciate a secondary
collection so so what i thought was like okay how if i'm going to do this i'm going to integrate it
in the same token so you can swipe or you can click on it and you can see your original critter
and then the corrupted critter oh yeah like a, like a toggle on it. Exactly, exactly.
The funny thing is that the artist
that worked on the corrupted critter traits,
a three to six, maybe even
And it's the first thing that's ready.
So, I'm... I mean, life just works out sometimes.
It's funny how the name came up as well because I was like,
should I do mutated critters?
Should I do possessed critters?
Then one day I was just talking with someone on Discord.
I'm like, yeah, just like the corrupted one.
I was like, oh, shit, corrupted critters.
Now I was like, okay, let me replace the C with a K.
Now I just have to be careful not to put a last word with a K as well
because then it'll just look wrong.
I wasn't going to make that joke, and I'm really glad you did
because I was thinking the exact same thing oh we got a joke about life sometimes
and uh so then i was like okay corrupted critters that's amazing the artist she's she is amazing
um she's based out of turkey and she does a lot of um collections Drip. I think that's on a Solana blockchain.
And I was thinking and I was thinking, I was like, wait a minute.
So I got in touch with her because I also collected a lot of her Drip collections and one-to-ones.
And we were chatting, so I paid the first half.
And now I just have to pay the second half because she's delivered.
But when I saw them i was
like oh this is amazing sometimes i feel kind of annoyed that you won't be able to see the complete
fur trait because of the of the clothing trait so i have to talk with her about it and see how
we can either tear up the clothes a bit more so we can see more of
the fur because she's done some amazing job you know she's done mutated lava um gold nuggets um
mystic black hole so there's there's a lot of cool furs that replace the original fur traits
and um the unicorn trait i'm i'm gonna say it here even though it's recorded
uh the unicorn trait we've modified it to give homage to the token gator so it's going to be a
gator head but quite mutated yeah yeah that's awesome just writing that down
that down we're gonna post that out later we said start sweeping some
unicorns from the skull critters I'm gonna do it with all of them no I'm just
kidding I think I've only sold one and one no I sold two NFTs my entire time so
I usually don't do that but you know stuff happens oh no i'm i'm guilty of that like today
i sold one of my nfts uh only one force because i had i needed the funds to uh to pay other artists
as well yeah no i mean you gotta do what you gotta do there shouldn't i mean i say there shouldn't
be we all know there is but i mean at the end of the day the space is you know you need money it's pretty
liquid most of the time so you gotta do what you gotta do there's no there's no self-shame in here
um oh i had another question i was gonna ask i can't remember what it was oh
but they're corrupted some of them i just have to corrupt to be naked
um i i think what i'll do army, we'll get them in here.
What I think I'll do is I'll try and find a way to, how do you call this, just randomize
that if they want to turn their corrupted, some of them will have clothes and some won't
in order to fully appreciate it.
Yeah. that some of them will have clothes and some won't in order to fully appreciate it yeah yeah and and funny enough as well um another part of the project is i'm creating overlays so if you
look at uh the one i posted where it's like um the mascots it has like the the play, button on it. Um,
a kid on ape is creating a platform where you can have overlays on your, uh,
I tried talking to a dev.
I tried getting in touch with,
hop stars because they have that on their discord,
Kid on Ape approached me and, you know,
and what he has going on.
it might be a little bit annoying
for the collectors to have different
websites to go to, if they want
this or they want that. But I thought, you know, budget wise, it'll be good to go with them. You know, they're starting
as well, and it'll be good to be one of the newer projects to use their platform and support it and
have more eyes on it. So it's a win-win situation, to honest oh yeah yeah that's yeah it's awesome i feel like
again this is me um putting on my tinfoil hat a little bit um none of this what i'm saying is
true it's just my opinion so please don't get mad at me um i feel like now's a good time on
ape chain especially to try and build new stuff but just there's a little bit of drama going on in the background with some bigger people that have platforms and so um just think you know
some smaller creators come out and build something that's worthwhile um i think it's a good time to
kind of show up and do that i i absolutely agree and to be honest with you, I'm so focused on the project and on my kids that I have no idea what the drama is.
I'm missing out on the other side because, first of all, I think my computer is really slow or the connection here in Mexico sucks ass.
So I'm like, okay, that's not it.
Oh, got to feed the kids.
Oh, I got to play with my son.
Okay, so it's at this time when I have time to work around it.
But yes, you know, I have a feeling that once other side solidifies,
ApeCoin, ApeChain is going to be quite a giant that will wake up.
And, you know, i'm excited for it and and i'm excited that
i'm still here that i'm still working on it you know that i haven't gone anywhere and yeah i mean
another thing that i did with the funds is i bought an other side expansion um because
because another part of the funds is being used to create 3D assets.
And I thought about it and I was thinking it would be better to have a 3D asset
of every token of the skull critters rather than have four or five.
And it's just like a regular cookie cutter critter on the other side.
So I reached out to an artist and we, you know, we talked about it
and the budget that I had, he was able to work around it.
It might be a bit hard for him, but he said, you know what, it's doable.
So that's also on the works.
That is also a medium to long-term plan because he has to really work hard on getting those poly counts
Correct, because if I wanted something like a kid called beast, I was looking at something between seven to ten thousand
Yeah, so I'm going down to probably like three to four
Poly counts, which is sorry three to four thousand poly, which was within my budget of $3,000.
That's awesome. I just want to say hats off to you for having
plans. I need to be more like you.
just wake up and drive on a seat in my pants
No, I truly appreciate it.
To be honest, all of this that
I'm doing is because I learned
That's exactly what I was about to say.
You naming off all these big projects and you study what they've done, how they've been successful, and you're applying it to your project.
I think it's really cool.
I mean, that's how you succeed.
I mean, you're not copying them.
You're using them as inspiration to make your own project successful, which is really cool.
Yeah, because β and that's why I didn't promise anything. to make your own project successful which is yeah cool yeah yeah because and
that's why I didn't promise anything and I wanted to see how the mint went and I
wanted to see how the funds were because once I received the funds I had to pay
my collab and community manager that I believe made a huge difference for for
skull critics to to sell out sorry to mint out Sneaks.
And I also had to pay Bliver to use their platform. So I was left with about $7,000, 7,500.
So with that money, I wanted to use a seventh of that.
So about $1,300 to get a lot of rewards for the vault.
From blue chips. So I have it's you know it's not much
but i have one gs on ape i have two clutch puppies and then i have a lot of other uh collections yeah
um i wanted to get uh gobs but a lot of my funds would have gone towards that so I just kept it simple supported small medium
and just had a few like jackpot prizes and and then the other part was a 3d
and then I also got in touch with the dev that helped with the Foxy fam
staking platform so I rate paid him upfront to create that staking platform
as well so that's also coming up soon
hopefully that's awesome i said i'm just i'm about to start just asking you how you plan
everything because i i need this in my life not just web 3 but just life in general um
my little i know i i appreciate it cutting it for work much longer i can only do so much
and sitting there with this note i just delete stuff off of every day oh you know what you know what probably helped
uh and you know if you want to do it go for it um i lost my job
i mean maybe that helped i don't think my wife would be super thrilled but i mean i can run the
idea buyer we just we're gonna have to i going to have to find some section eight housing out here. It's pretty close by, so I'm sure I can do it. Any non-American section eight housing is like government housing and it's not good.
uh yeah i mean no i'm sorry you know what i'm glad i worked out for you i my anxiety would not
let me do that i would probably die on the inside um but i'm glad no no the the anxiety anxiety
kicks in once in a while so when i go to sleep and i try to fall asleep that's when everything
kicks in like oh how am i going to do this i i going to do that luckily the cost of living in mexico is
very very low that uh some of the funds that we set aside uh from our sale of the housing in
vancouver is living up to to helping us out with with the costs and expenses here but uh yeah i
mean i'm still looking for a job but the the time that I have allows me to plan things and reach out to people.
But like you mentioned previously, I saw a lot of mistakes that other projects did on ETH.
You know, I didn't spend half of my money or half of the funds, sorry, on buying things for me.
I just bought my GZone Ape and that's it.
I didn't, I, I'm, you know, I didn't go to any events.
I mean, bear in mind that I only minted for four Ape.
I wish I would have been a bit more, um, uh, you know, how, how, how, how,
how, what's the word more aggressive with pricing yes more aggressive with
pricing maybe six eight maybe seven eight yeah but i i'm new i'm new i'm not a renowned or well-known
uh artist or founder or whatever so i was like no let's play it safe you know if if this doesn't go well well you know people lost two dollars rather than ten
dollars but uh seeing how um advanced or or how much i've advanced in i'm like shit maybe if i
had a couple of a couple grand it would have helped me out do a bit more you know or ask for
better poly count on the 3D avatars or whatever.
But I'm happy. I can't complain.
I still have some NFTs on ETH that I can sell to continue funding the project.
Yeah. And you said y'all minted out in 2025, right?
2025, this year or the 2025 this year it was crazy because uh well we minted out on the first come first serve uh phase within like 12 15 minutes that's amazing i'm i'm surprised man like
and it happened in the most weirdest way because guaranteed i was like okay oh wow we're at 30
to go first come first serve starts i go feed my kids something and i come back and we're sold out
i'm like wait what the fuck what did i miss how many how many pieces are in the collection sorry
i don't think i asked that earlier um originally i wanted to do 13 13 it's my favorite number and
minted at 13 ape but you know that was when eight was at 70 cents
i was like no no no and then when i spoke with sneaks who was a collab manager you know i i heard
him i learned from him so like okay let me do 31 13 at four eight all right so you minted out 3,000 pieces that quickly. That's insane.
I'm proud of it, but I'm like, wow.
And when RIDA came on the space and we were talking, it's true.
It's an amazing feeling when you mint out, now I'm fucked now expectations have to be met
a lot of people over romanticize the idea
when you see your critters on
the timeline or when you mint it out
or when you're getting information or news
that you like to share but then you're getting information or news that you like
to share but then you're like okay what's the next thing i gotta do come on let's do this and you know
um i was able to stake uh the remaining amount of ape that i had with clutch puppies on their
on their platform and of course you know it wasn't a big amount but i was able to get a hundred eight back so i'm gonna do i'm gonna do like a raffle or a
uh a rumble and whoever wins uh gets 50 ape and then on the second round whoever wins that one
would get another 58 it's like a way of giving back and a way of being like hey i'm not using
the funds on me or on you know unnecessary b, here it is.
You're patient for a month.
Yeah, and I think that, especially now and in this space,
I feel like at least that's kind of what I look for in a community.
I mean, you meant out that fast.
That right there tells you to learn you have a lot of people supporting you
or you have one big wallet that bought them all,
which I doubt is the case. I say that as a joke because i feel
like a bunch of projects inflate that by doing that but that's besides the point um i mean you
have all that support you're a one-man show i mean you're obviously you know people are helping you
on the sides they're like contract work whatever but you're you're the one making the decisions
right in the show and so it's one of those things like, you know, we, you know,
me and ghosty have this thought, or we talk about this all the time,
like, or me ghosting and begin are basically like, okay, what's next?
What do we need to work on? What we need to show them,
we're doing something. And it's one of those things that like,
you got to take a step back and be like, okay,
I meant it out really quickly. I have support as long as I show them that I'm working on something.
And hopefully they trust you that it's going to happen.
Because you necessarily don't want to rush something and put it out.
It's kind of the argument we go back and forth with a lot in our group chat.
And so I think it's kind of a lesson for everyone to just take a step back.
As long as you're communicating, I think everything's kind of a lesson for everyone to just take, you know, take a step back. As long as you're like communicating, I think everything's fine.
People want to eat and leave because you didn't do something, you know, immediately.
Like, then you probably don't want them in your community in the first place.
That probably sounds bad.
But like I said, we're all in this together.
We're all just trying to help the people that supported us.
Absolutely. I agree with you 100 and and i think that is the biggest thing i learned from
you know the bull run that we had that that i don't think will ever happen again but if it does
i'll welcome it is that a lot of projects once they mint it out they didn't communicate and you
know what even if they communicate saying, we are following with the dev,
the dev is taking his time, okay, at least you let me know
rather than staying silent.
Because when you stay silent, that's when the FUD happens.
That's when people start doubting and start regretting that they minted.
I mean, for the first three weeks, I had a daily space, and then I stopped doing that because, honestly, the hard part of being a one-man team is that once the ball is on the other side of the court with the dev or the artist or whatever, there's nothing in your power that you can do except, you know, like, hey, how's it going?
Hey, GM, GM, hey, we need to need to talk hey can you please call me or whatever
and you know the good thing is that at least i know that the 3d is coming i have the corrupted
uh i just i'm i'm hoping i can get the staking up and running because i really want to start giving
out those rewards and i want people staking and you know hopefully that works out because
want people staking and you know hopefully that works out because uh funnily enough that was like
the the the first thing that i wanted to have up and running uh you know it was like a one month
to two month uh a short-term plan was to have the staking it's not working out you know and
that's the beauty of it some things don't work according to plan so you have to shift and see
what you can do but honestly honestly, you keep communicating.
And if it's good news or bad news, at least you're giving them something.
You're not just gone the next day after you pushed all this stuff.
So yeah, I totally agree.
I think Bags had requested to speak.
Bags, you want to say anything?
Yo, Moo, appreciate you for bringing me up.
Shout out to everyone who's in the room.
Make sure you guys like and retweet this room, man.
Show some love to Moon, man, for real.
But, hey, mucho gusto a la raza, bro.
But the one thing I did want to come up and say, Skull, is I think the way you're running it, bro, I think it's bullish.
You know, just because you have it in your bio that you have no roadmap you know no utility and it's straight
set it right there so the biggest thing with web3 right a lot of people lack reading that's what it
is that's where it comes down to a lot of people don't like reading right and um and think about
this you can't really please everyone in Web3, right? You can't.
And if you start doing things to please people in Web3, you're not going to have fun, right?
And that's where the fuck comes, right?
Because you try to please everyone in Web3.
So I always recommend if you're doing something for yourself, make sure you love doing what you do.
That way you won't get burned out, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
But a me gusta lo que estΓ‘s haciendo, bro.
I love what you're doing. Like I i said people need to read more in web 3
but other than moon shout out to you bro you've been working in these spaces bro shout out to
peanut you know he's another homeboy down there but yeah bro like nah keep doing your ding bro
but thank you moon that's the only thing i wanted to come up and say oh for sure no i mean i
definitely appreciate it that was awesome yeah i mean hey bags oh sorry
sorry no no no you're good i was gonna say i agree go on you got it oh no bags i'm very proud of that
and i'm happy about it and and it that's what encourages me that's what motivates me when
people are bullish on me and uh i was kind of worried at the beginning saying no roadmap because that was one of the, you know, the catchy phrases during the free mint era with the goblins and whatnot.
What the fuck goblin town or something that no roadmap, no roadmap, which was like an excuse saying, hey, you mint, we keep the funds and we're out.
mint we keep the funds and we're out but i i really meant it because i wanted to under promise
and over deliver and i wanted people to be surprised like oh there was no road map
but now we see this happening and and sometimes that's a pleasant surprise and uh you know um
if you can i'm gonna follow you back and if you can dm me your your ape wallet i would love to uh send you a critter man you know
uh just uh that you're here and that you came up and spoke and you know added more fuel to the
fire man much love appreciate it shoot you're a legend for that bro but like i say i only come
here i don't really come here for giveaways and stuff like that bro uh i just like where you where
you were saying you know and i wanted to just like uh give those encouraging words to keep going bro because you know in this space it's hard to um
pivot you know a lot of people don't know how to pivot um and one person that i've been watching
that knows how to pivot and do hella good work is peanut dude like i seen this guy at 7k followers
with my old account and this dude is like a 14k now so so always learn how to pivot always move there's
always a way out of everything right but do it the right way you know always be transparent and
everything uh and everything what you do right it's just honesty right and consistency but other
than that bro um i see pina that came up so i'm gonna i'm gonna shoot the the mic pina over there because I know he has alpha, bro.
What's going on? You guys can hear me?
Man, just got done with a workout.
All right, I'm officially up.
I just killed myself, so you guys are getting the raw version of Peanut out in public.
But yeah, man, just being consistent, just hearing a little bit of your guys' journey.
I'm trying to see here. Who's behind the actual account itself is that uh is that burnt cheese yep yep that's me oh cool man well pleasure to
meet you i don't think i've gotten to meet you before um seeing some of the art it almost reminds
me of gosh i i'm trying to think now someone might someone might be able to know it
better than me bags i think it was was it like wolf punks crypto or something i was gonna say
that too yeah the wolf punks yeah yeah like that's that's what burnt cheese is kind of reminds me of
more so than just the account pfp um but yeah that's what it kind of like instantly reminded
me of which i think they transferred
ownership maybe a couple of months ago or earlier this year they were looking for a buyer of sorts
not sure what happened anyways besides the point you know i think it's it's one thing where you
could say you know oh i like shoulda coulda woulda it minted fast at this point you know
at least i kind of maybe heard or i was picking up a little
bit on it where you know it's like oh man if i could have like raised the price by whatever two
three times like you said you might have had a little bit more that you could do with you know
some of the 3d work or you know some of the art which i you know i can understand your your
perspective to be able to you know further you
know continue the the project or fund it especially if it's not necessarily like self-funded prior to
it um but super super intrigued just to you know hear what you got going cooking and you know
whatever you know whatever i could do to just kind of check things out or
you know if you guys got other things going on like spaces or different events you know always
happy to always happy to check out new things too so yeah love uh love to see that you're hanging
out with you know some pretty great people here captain and uh i think ghost he's behind the main
account or the other account.
Yeah, I just want to come up, show some support.
So yeah, I don't know if I got too much other than just continue to β and I know that you know this, but it's days where you really don't feel like showing up,
where you still show up in some shape or form and, you know, you can connect with the community, like, however it is.
I mean, again, finding even the right moderator, you know, finding someone who, you know, the
way that I would put it, because I came from nothing, you know, I didn't come into the
space looking for a role.
And then, you know, after just showing up for a couple of months consistently, after getting rugged pretty hard by a community, again, another one popped up to kind of right the wrongs of the previous one.
And just showing up, you know, week after week for a couple of months landed me my first opportunity and my first paid gig.
be my first opportunity and my first paid gig. And, and again, you know, I think for someone
like yourself, like you said, kind of one man showing it, I think whatever you can do to,
you know, even find someone that's overlooked and, and maybe undervalued, you know, finding
someone that you can really build this with, that would be my two cents. Again, just to have someone
that is there to oversee things because again is you know being a
founder and leading the charge you want to have your focus as much as you can on a couple of key
items versus trying to do everything at once so again if it's you know having a moderator
finding maybe a community manager, you know, maybe
it means, again, I'm not sure how much you have set up.
Maybe it means bringing, you know, another team member on, you know, if you have an LLC,
maybe it's giving equity, like just kind of sharing like big vision, not sure how far
you actually want to take it.
But I would just kind of, again, put that out there for you, something to consider if,
already, I think that's, you know, one element that could really set you up for just consistency,
again, rather than putting everything on your shoulders, being able to empower and delegate
will be absolutely pivotal to your not only just sustainability
and establishing yourself, but having scalability too is huge.
So that would be my, like I said, my two cents,
my comments from the peanut gallery.
So pleasure to meet you, man.
Looking forward to seeing you in other spaces and
seeing you on the timeline i truly appreciate uh your words of advice and that that means a lot and
honestly um i haven't thought of that i haven't thought of that way you know it's it's it's
amazing how much more you can still learn and i i'll definitely have to work on that and put that in the plan because it does make a
lot of sense. Because, you know, if I can delegate certain tasks to a mod or a community manager to
help, you know, continue or grab information or just interact, that would give me a lot more time and a lot more focus on what needs to be done.
And whenever the peanut gallery is open, I'll be more than happy to see what there is.
Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, it's funny you say that because the peanut gallery kind of has multiple meanings to it.
You know, I have my peanut gallery space. I have my peanut gallery
towns that I'm building out. I won't go into that. That's not, you know, the time and place,
but towns is a great place maybe to consider building a community. You know, if you have
questions, you can just hit me directly another time. And then, uh, yeah, peanut gallery, it's
kind of like, you know, you're, you know, you're two cents sometimes and not
But that was what I would do growing up as a kid when my brother and I were arguing or
bickering or he was getting in trouble.
I always wanted to throw in my extra comments.
And so it's funny how one phrase or one motto one motto excuse me can have you know multiple
iterations to it too so yeah man whatever whatever it is that you know you think though would would
be of of value or better yet the people that you think would be of value find those people to like
i said surround yourself with people who are again again, overlooked, undervalued, people who,
again, you see a lot of worth and potential in. It's going to be pivotal, man. It's going to be
pivotal. So again, that's just what at least I would try and do is, you know, find those couple
of people that are passionate. Again, not to say that you can't be successful finding or or outsourcing
things but find people that naturally already gravitate towards the community and have a have
a genuine passion because if you're if you're bringing someone in just exclusively for an
opportunity and there isn't necessarily anything established. Not to say that you're setting yourself up for failure, but I think we could all agree
when you promote and hire from within across the board, whether it's traditional business
or the space, I bet we could probably collectively say that the odds to succeed could,
could for sure be higher again.
I'm sure we could get case studies if we really wanted to,
I think it'll help if you,
you find those people that are already gravitated towards the art and,
and the culture that you've already started to,
to you hopefully you know of the point there you know points were of of value and added to the
conversation absolutely of value 100 man and um i'm warning you i will get in touch with you pick
your mind and learn more about towns and everything because uh you know uh as if i can get more
knowledge and more information the better it is for me and the better it is for the project.
Well, Peanut's the town's expert.
He's an expert on most things Web3.
He won't admit it, but he is.
I think he knows everything.
What I was going to say to kind of piggyback off what he said was finding people in the
community, I think also could help with the whole deadline issue you're having.
Just because having someone that's not outsourced, and again, this is just my opinion, having
someone that's not outsourced could you know they're a little more
a little more passionate towards the project they want to get stuff done they want to help
their community more than someone who's just expecting a paycheck and knows they can draw
it out as long as they want to um kind of thing um and again we're we're all over the place so if
i ever hear anything or see you know reliable people i'll
definitely you know pass them along as i can oh that would be amazing i would i would truly
appreciate that because you know um i i need to be careful now with the remaining uh funds and
and play very carefully try and make uh two cents out of a cent. But it does make a lot of sense.
But I have to admit, it does make a lot of sense.
And not only will it make things more efficient,
but I would be able to effectively get things done.
No, I mean, that's awesome.
Like I said, I always listen to the Ntalk.
We have a lot of great advice.
It's helped me in my seven months here.
My little no profile picture self only looking here for Hyperliquid is now all over the place.
I didn't think I'd be be here but here we are um is there anything i know we're kind of towards the end of our time
but is there anything else you know skull critters i know you shared a lot about the future but
anything else you want to get out there um honestly no um i'm that's that's perfectly okay No, I'm just happy.
And like Bangs and Pien said, I'm loving what I'm doing.
There are moments of frustration and moments of worries.
But something that I've learned is that if you rush things,
then you're going to have to do it all over again because there's going to be a lot of mistakes.
So I'm not going to rush it.
I'm going to take my time.
But I will have to somehow, you know,
balance that out and make things happen.
But, you know, I see quite a few listeners here.
So I wanted to know if you would give me permission to do a giveaway
Say no to helping people out?
I mean, you're going to have to choose the winner.
Get a random wheel going.
We're going to have to raffle this.
You know, I'll give a skull critter. forever angry account and uh you know comment uh on on the timeline and yeah and and uh we'll
select a winner all right follow us so follow forever angry also follow skull critters because
they're amazing um bags wants to speak let him hop back up here
and then if we're going to do a comment just comment on the pin post
and we'll make it easy please don't go everywhere because i don't need to count all of those and i
don't have the brain capacity to do that i'm just saying i know i just i know i commented on here, but there's only one unicorn left on the floor, and it's 10-8.
So I'm not telling anybody to go do it, but I'm just saying that if you don't do it, and
it's there by Friday, I'm taking the other one.
I do appreciate Peanut coming and hitting that with the nail bro
IRL right and I'm going to leave it as this
We have to look at projects like a business
Right and at the end of the day
We just have to find that one person
That we need that could help us push.
As a founder, you need that back end.
You know, you need to be behind the scenes.
But Scully, keep doing it.
AquΓ estoy contigo, bro.
Whatever you need, let me know.
And we'll, I work for my bag.
So whatever you need, bro.
Captain Moon, YouTube, brother.
Whatever you guys need, let me know in the DMs and we'll work, bro.
But yeah, much love to everyone. Hey, bro. And that was fire. That's a fire one. I'm going to put it in the DMs and we'll work, bro. But yeah, much love to everyone.
I'm going to put it in the comments right now.
I think Tricky also requested the mic.
I don't know who this is.
I'm just... I'm just yanking your chain.
Once he jumps up, give him like 15, 20 seconds and he'll go through his spiel.
I was about to accidentally rug if I needed to.
Yeah. Perfect time to accidentally rug if I needed to. Yeah, perfect time
What's up, fam? Hope you're all doing good. Man, retweet
the room. Tag three people
and if we can get this over 25, I'll do a giveaway. If you don't know, now you're all doing good. Man, retweet the room. Tag three people. And if we can get this over 25, I'll do a giveaway.
But if you don't know, now you know.
And I joined the Wii team beginning of May.
I'm definitely having fun with it.
Whatever you want to call me.
What do your friends call you?
There you go, Captain Moon.
Okay, I'll call you original.
Or maybe just worse. That's pretty tight.
Yeah, do that. That's fine. I like worse.
That was the most impressive
introduction I have heard in a very long time
oh yeah no i yeah i loved i had to turn my head i probably i probably have heard it 745 times now
uh you know my wife is jealous of you
oh that's amazing well i'm hoping to get in more spaces with you because i want to hear that
a lot more because i gotta i'm gonna like memorize it and then i'm not hopping spaces
right see then this is this is what it's all about man i want to bring people together and
get paid to do my intro and tag your name at the end of it you know what i mean like it could be uh it's tricky buddha from defy space donkeys sponsored by original captain moon do you even know who he is go follow that
motherfucker you know something like that go ahead go ahead and put your wallet in the comments and
i'll send you all the money i have take my money you know i it's funny because i so i've only done
it a couple times where i've added
my you know i've got to sponsor that it was such a big part of my life at that by that period of
time that i added them to the end of my tagline and some people now they were like they remember
other companies because of my tagline because of like the time that they met me this was the part
of my tagline and to you know a lot of these people here are super new.
So they just thought that that was how it always was like that.
And I was like, no, man, I've been here for like the club's been here for four years.
I've been in crypto since 2016.
So like, yeah, yeah, you're it started off.
And it started off from gaming, like when people cuss you out and or when you kill someone and the microphone goes live and people are just using it to cuss you out and or when you kill someone and and the microphone goes live and people are just using it like to cuss you out and i decided to start using it to troll people and
like tell jokes so they couldn't like kill my buzz you know um but i was like i had go through all
this health issues with crones and everything and i was like totally useless so i was like fuck it
let's get double knee surgeries on both legs and i'll just be completely useless um so i'm like
playing video games to kind of get out of my head.
I like I play until I got killed.
And towards the end, you know, you get cussed out like 30 times a game
until you finally like drop a nuke on their head.
And so I'm getting cussed out all these times.
And I'm just like, how do I make these people laugh?
I always had a joke loaded.
Then I went and realized the power of like
positivity and started this project all at the same time and just jumped into like social media
and i go live like the one of the days and instead of having a joke i just said
defy space donkeys like the second i got killed so the people like my team was like laughing at me and I fucking the guy
The other end is like what the fuck is this what's going on?
You know and I'm like, well, you know
I figured they don't nobody knows what it is
But when you make up a new phrase and word if no one uses it what the fucking good is it?
So I'm getting people to Google it, you know
And then like now it's gonna help me lock lock in my SEO and like boost me in the algorithm and stuff.
I mean, like if you Google Tricky Buddha or DeFi Space Donkeys, I like dominate and it won't even like.
Yeah, T-R-I-C-K-Y-B-U-D-D-H-A or DeFi Space Donkeys and just like it sounds, D-E-F-I.
DeFi Space Donkeys, the collection.
Yeah, so I'm all over that.
It's all organic, just knowing how everything works.
And I mean, I locked an old SEO.
But yeah, so that's where the catchphrase came from.
I mean, I was soically like anxious and depressed and
learning how you can rewire your brain by having a thought like locked in in at all times right
basically i was always thinking about making somebody laugh i was always thinking about a joke
and that positivity and kind of like giggling at the fact that oh i got this random fucking joke
and this person i'm about to see in Publix
is going to hear the craziest goddamn
thing they've ever heard in their life.
Looking seriously, oh, this is
not going to work with Chihuahua. Damn it.
Does this go with Scandinavian people.
I want to hang out with you more often.
I really would go dark with the humor sometimes.
I put comedian in my bio just so people stop taking me too seriously.
But, yeah, it came from all of the video games.
Then every time I would do anything live, I would start it off with that as a default.
It's like a reset kind of.
It puts me back into a positive mindset.
I laugh at it because it's ridiculous.
And the fact that it's become my 2FA.
If I don't do that, you don't really know if it's me.
Everything can be AI these days.
But not even AI. Nobody can do my fucking intro like ai you can't get ai to do my intro like i do the intro it's not
possible like i have my video like there's video of me saying every word possible like if they
really trained it hard you think they would be able to get it, but there's no way to mark the inflections and stuff because there's
nothing else that I say in those tones. Right? So that's the issue. It's really funny because
I was trying to make an AI bot. It's like my twin. Because like, imagine like I have
all this, like all this amazing education and stuff. So I sound impressive on paper,
but the reality is I can't remember all that shit all at once. What would it be like if
I had never forgot any conversations? That person would be super helpful. So I'm just
trying to make myself in my back pocket. So I've got one of my computers that's not attached
to anything. It's just like an AI bot of myself that's amazing I've learned so much in my seven months in web three of things that I
should be doing that I've not that's one of them I'm the personal advisor that you know helps you
and that isn't connected to any other like profit motive like a personal
advisor and financial planners they get paid sell planning tools and annuities
and market you know market different types of actually close what I do in
real life so yeah I get it yeah what do you do I'm a tax accountant but yes CPA
is very similar you have your CPA yeah yeah so my wife is a CPA too so what was
that I said bless her heart yeah well she's really she's really thinking about
we're gonna like try to find things we really want to live now that things are going well with crypto and stuff.
And she can really work wherever she wants with that job.
That's the good thing about it, is that you have the flexibility to move.
Yeah, as soon as the boomers get out of control and they stop making me come in the office, then yes, I agree.
Yeah, making us all go home really was like a nail in some of their coffins early because
they didn't want to do that yeah so i can't yell at these people in person what are you talking
about yeah oh i can't yell in person it's not worth it yeah i can't figure out how to turn
my camera on or open a pdf i know my voice. Yeah. Oh, it's so funny to watch like this five or six people getting used to the zoom meetings. Every zoom meeting. It's like,
I'm not going to these meetings anymore. People make it, this couldn't be an email. It's either
an email or I'm running the meeting. Let's be real. Exactly. Um, but I'm the guy in your back
pocket. That's like a, you know, you're a non-biased advisor.
So like even with a CPA, if you're an independent CPA, you're not trying to sell them anything.
You're trying to sell them your service to complete forms.
You're not trying to sell them like extra financial bullshit.
If you have to, then that's just probably not where you need to be
um that's the tip i don't want to talk about after that's a different job you know what i mean like
yeah you don't need to be a salesman if you know if you're adding value just with your service as
accountant or as a financial advisor like you don't need to be selling annuities and um insurance
like life insurance plans like that's not it's, I mean, I understand that people have a, you know, a purpose,
but why, you know, why would I have gotten any education if I was just going to be a salesman?
Yeah, I've never understood that.
And then, so sorry about this, but like you're like as an accountant, like, so I don't know if you're going big for what route you're going but I'm in
top 25 yeah it's like my I mean my wife was you know summa cum laude and she was
also in the top four she did some KPMG work and then she got to work for the
college yeah and she and she did some small corporate stuff
that had, like, a couple of different real estate assets.
It was, you know, so she tried everything.
Like, she tried the corporate.
She tried the governmental, you know, school, basically.
And it's all bullshit anyway.
So we're just trying to figure out now where we want to live.
No, I 100% agree with you on that one.
I think that she could just do whatever type of accounting she'd like for my clients and be separate.
And then they would have β I'd give them a discount for hiring her and she'd give them a discount for hiring me type thing.
I'd give them a discount for hiring her, and she'd give them a discount for hiring me type thing.
I think she wouldn't have to do much work because accountants get paid pretty well,
and she just wants to have a couple.
She just does a couple of returns for some people that I trust,
and some bigger people that are actually entrepreneurs.
Then that would be all she'd really need to do.
I was going to say, if she ever needs a partner, I'm available.
Yeah. I mean, we're going to say, if she ever needs a partner, I'm available. No, I'm just kidding.
Yeah, I mean, we're going to be moving out here pretty soon.
So right now we're open to options and offers.
Right now we're expanding and looking for stuff.
I'm bringing in people for all my teams.
That's awesome. So where are you at right now?
But yeah, I meant location yeah i meant location i meant physically
physically in my kitchen um well he went really descriptive there i meant like address but
that was so one no i'm just kidding um my credit card number my bank account number i'll send it
no no no no no seat phrase none of that? I thought I was supposed to share that with everybody.
That's usually how I get the meetings.
Second kid's coming in December.
So we're just living life.
Are these close together?
I have a feeling they're like three years apart.
Judging by your entrepreneur
Where are you? I'm also psychic so you're kind of
cheating. I'm over here looking
out my window with like a knife in my hand. I'm kind of scared.
Yeah, see the guy in the purple
hoodie? No, I'm just playing.
How crazy would it be if I looked outside and there was somebody in the purple hoodie outside?
I don't know if he's walking a small dog or I just can't see the dog.
Knowing here, it's a big dog, so...
No, I'm one of those irrelevant psychics where I'll never get like lotto numbers, right?
But it would be like, there's a lady in a red jacket outside.
They're like, they're here.
And I'm like, whoa, that's really cool.
That's really actually happening. What? Awesome.
Too bad it wasn't helpful in any way.
going to rain sometime this month.
Oh, I could wake up every day and tell you whether or not it's going to rain.
Because the answer is yes, and it's Florida.
I think it's just pattern recognition.
It's not actually psychic ability.
It's just like really, really finely tuned pattern recognition.
It's like the show Psych.
Hopefully someone in this room has seen that show
I'm like a dog whisperer for people.
Like they'll say something.
I'm like, that's not what you meant.
Like they'll say something.
I'm like, that's not what you meant. I'm sure that's a joke. Like, they'll say something. I'm like, that's not what you meant.
But the answer to what you meant to ask is this.
And they're like, oh, my God.
That's the funniest part when someone's, like, giving a presentation.
And then I give the answer.
And, like like someone else is
like trying to interrupt them and be like, I think you meant that, like that, what question didn't
make sense. And I just like interrupt them to be like, I'm just going to fast track this. It'll
make sense in a second. Oh yeah. You want to, you want to come to all my like technical training
so we can just get to the end point instead of having to sit through someone to listen to
talk for an hour. Right. I want to call or make an advisory firm called TLDR, right?
Where I just, I call you and give you a short summary in like less than 15 minutes.
Because if it takes more than 15 minutes, well, then you probably should have hired
like a real contract and multiple people.
And if it takes less than that, then like there a there's obvious options both ways you know what I mean so I just I should just be able
to do you know updates in 15 minutes major problem solves you know and then
you can book me for your individual meetings if you want me to like help
negotiate or something like that I like negotiating on other people's behalf I
even want to negotiate for myself I have to negotiate on someone else's behalf
like yeah I mean my house and my car are both like great examples because Even when I negotiate for myself, I negotiate on someone else's behalf.
Yeah, I mean, it makes sense.
My house and my car are both great examples because everybody needs those, right?
I've got a 22% and a 25% discount on both my cars off MSRP.
They're brand new vehicles.
I told them the vehicle I wanted, told them the price I was going to pay,
and then I left and said, I'm only going to do it when you can get me in and out in less than a half hour. Like if they're not ready, I'm leaving.
And if you mention it and you're to sell me any upgrades, you have to give them to
me for free without increasing the fee or I'm walking.
Like do you understand these terms?
Sign this, here's my offer, I call me when it's ready.
And then I leave and they take about a month to like,
you know, mull it over calling me often. And I caught and I contact all the dealerships
within like 300 miles and I find a couple of offers until I find the lowest one. And
then I revised everyone's, all the dealerships, but the lowest offer and then pull that in.
And I moved into my house, which is just the neighbor just sold for $425,000.
I bought it for $142,000.
And I told them that the title was not, like, cleared.
There was a conflict on the title.
So in order for me to buy the house, they'd have to, like, clean up the title.
And I will sign now for a sale.
Guaranteed that you'll have a sale now.
You'll be able to have the money to move on.
I will immediately put money in escrow and do everything on my end.
It doesn't get triggered, though, until you do your end and get the title clear.
I'm also going to need you to sign this lease and a rental agreement so I can get renter's insurance.
And the rental agreement is for $0 until at the time at which your lease is clear and then I buy the entire house.
We stayed here for six months for free.
So, in honor of you, TLDR, I'm going to call you anytime I buy anything.
I think that everyone in here, I'm giving them permission to just DM Tricky Buddha and say, help me, I'm going to put you on the phone, negotiate this for me.
It used to be that my rate was pretty cheap.
So I would say, if you're buying something that's more than 50 bucks, it's probably worth it to hire me for an hour and like have me, you know, if you have me buy something that's worth over 50 bucks, it's worth it.
Because my hourly rate was like 15 bucks when I started.
Even just as low as like recent as like two years ago, my hourly rate was like 25 bucks, 50 bucks maybe.
It just got up there this year.
Like now it's 325 that's why i said just go to my live event my life um shows because then i it's free advice you don't
i don't know get this we're all we're all gonna collectively as a group band together
find one thing we want to buy we'll pay as ready yeah but now it But now it's β We can all share it.
If it's a car or something like that, it's worth it. If it's a car or bigger or if it's a vacation maybe, like a week-long vacation or a car.
There's like 20 of us in this space.
I don't think we can fit in a car together.
I mean just β I mean β well, the thing is if you all β let's say you all wanted a Tesla, right?
Now, me buying a 10-pack or a 20-pack of Teslas could be good for me for multiple things.
And I could probably negotiate a discount on that.
So, yeah, if we all decided, we probably wouldn't even have to be the same color.
Honestly, as long as it was the same model and year, and it was the current year i'd have like a lot of leverage at buying 10 or
more of anything well as soon as i'm in the market for 10 teslas i'm gonna send you a deal
right i don't know what my next car is gonna be but well it's gonna be 10 teslas now right
yeah get a business and then that's the first expense you to be 10 Teslas now. Right? Get a business and that's the first expense to get 10 Teslas.
Yeah, you'll figure it out.
You know a business or two that needs a Tesla.
I had a whole class on how to hide drug sales in books of laundromats.
So this is just for entertainment purposes only.
That's why we do recorded spaces because we like to joke around like and yeah space
for more people yeah that's funny though but anyway I mean they talk in a college
class so I had to be yes I have to talk about all the different all the different like yeah it was for me to find fraud it wasn't for me to perpetrate yeah i used to i
used to love like coming up with um theoretical whatever for for finance and stuff um the but
the funny thing was like talking about um like drugs and different government like policing policies and stuff where we're
spending X amount of money you know because of the immigrants or because of
this marijuana or because of whatever right and I like put it in like
proportion to government spending on like anything else and and be like so
they got you angry and mad at your neighbor
fucking number over here.
they're all on the advisory board
for this thing. It was like
this huge fucking number.
Like I need a whiteboard and to just
fucking die of laughter at the end.
This is going to be my last piece of tax advice.
I have to be back at work in nine hours.
I don't want to talk taxes anymore.
But if you do illegal activities,
there is tax code on how you're supposed to
report it on your tax return.
You just can't have any deductions.
You have to pay for every bit of revenue.
You can't have any deductions.
There is a form for illicit activities.
Which is why you want to have a separate business that does all of whatever.
separate business that does all of you know all of whatever uh in theory so this is why in theory
there's a lot of guys making very shitty businesses that die every two or three years then they just
start another business because you can have a business for up to three years that's just
not a good business it just is not making money yep they'll give you a good three years to make
a turn of profit then they might ask you then they
might say yeah so you're like you get like two and a half years through and then be like yeah
i sucked at that i need to do something different with my life exactly then it's a hobby and becomes
a whole other problem and i don't want to deal with hobby losses so go call it yeah cpa um but
this is a lot of how not to do stuff. Exactly. This is what this has turned into.
But I am going to ask Skull Critters if you want to come up and re-say your giveaway.
And then we will run it and choose somebody for you.
Unless you really want to do it, I won't say no.
I'm here, I'm ready for the DM so I
can get their wallet address and
send it over to them. Okay, so the
people that are in here, we're going to change it a little bit to make
a comment on the space, we
a random wheel and one winner
That way nobody has to go find anything.
Yeah, let's make life easy.
Like a director show, I am the first person.
And I probably shouldn't have said anything.
I should have just waited and said there I'm the first and only person.
Okay, so disqualify him. I shouldn't have said anything. I should have just waited and said, there, I'm the first and only person.
We will not be adding your name to the wheel.
The wheel is just you. There's one little small sliver that says,
not going to win, and that's what it lands on.
We'll see. This guy's got everything.
I have no ammo. I'm just going to go ahead
and finish off my account, and I'll
see you all in the next live.
I hope everyone's doing good
tonight, man. Have a good week.
Thanks for stopping, man. Really appreciate
the talk. It was fun. I definitely want to talk
to you another time, because this was amazing.
Yeah, absolutely. Anytime. i'm live every day uh four to six p.m eastern standard time so i'll catch you around i will definitely try to stop there appreciate you man
all right perry marilson here squirtters unless you really want to come talk again
it's up to you again Again, like the space.
You can say on the space like Tricky did.
And we will run a wheel and send a name over to Skull Critters here at 10-I or tomorrow morning.
Thank you, everybody, for being here.
Go look at Skull Critters.
Great founder, doing good things in the space.
I will talk to you all later.