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Tuesday | TezDay - Community Call!
Recorded: Sept. 2, 2025 Duration: 1:48:45Space Recording
Full Transcription
Hello, everyone.
Welcome back to Tuesday, everyone. Welcome back to Tuesday Tez Day. I'm Blangs, here as always with Kryptonio.
If it's your first time joining us, this is our weekly space where we talk all things Tezos.
Project updates, experiments, and the people behind them.
Some weeks we have guests, other weeks are more open like tonight.
Either way, it's a space to catch up on what's happening and hear directly from the people who
are building, testing, or just paying attention. We'll kick things off with a few headlines,
then open up the floor. If you've got friends who are Tezos curious but haven't jumped in yet, this one's worth sharing.
It's called Five Things You Can Do on Tezos Right Now.
And it's live over at news.tezoscomments.org.
It's a fun walkthrough for anyone just getting started.
From staking and earning rewards to collecting digital art or even messing around
in idle games like appleville there's a section on apple farms defy yields and a quick primer
on tokenized uranium yes real uranium on chain it's a laid-back piece that gives people permission
to just try something no deep crypto crypto knowledge required. Worth passing along
if you want to help onboard someone new.
We've got a new live title on Etherlink.
Sugar Match just dropped on iOS and Android.
It's the first game in the Sugarverse series and plays like a
PVP twist on Candy Crush.
Real-time battles, sabotage mechanics, and on-chain rewards through a token called Candy.
There's a casual mode, an arena mode, and a high-stakes VIB mode tied into Apple Farm and Equinitex.
mode tied into Apple Farm and Equana Decks.
So, you can start playing without a wallet and link up later if you want to claim rewards.
Season 1 is live now and runs for four months.
If you want to see what Web3 Gaming looks like on mobile with smooth onboarding and
actual reward mechanics, this is a great one to check out.
Just hit up sugarmatch.io to get started.
For the full article, check out spotlight.tezos.com.
If you want to stay on top of the Tezos news cycle
without chasing updates all week,
the baking sheet has you covered. It's a
weekly email that rounds up the biggest
project news and community
updates. No noise, just
what matters. You can sign up
at bakingsheet.tezoscommons.org
Quick reminder about the Tezos
Community Rewards Program
and how to make sure your nominations count.
There are two ways to nominate someone. First, go to tezoscommons.org slash rewards and fill out the short form.
Second, you can nominate directly on social media. Just make sure you use hashtag Tezos CRP.
That's the only tag we track. If you just hashtag crp it won't necessarily count now if
you're tagging someone's post that's fine the post shows what they did but if you're making your own
post like a list of names please include a short note about what each person did without that
context we can't count the nomination so So again, use the form on the site
or tag hashtag Tezos CRP with a category and a reason. And that's how we make sure people get
recognized for actual contributions, not just popularity. All right, with that out of the way,
let's open it up. This is a community call.
So if you're working on something, thinking through something,
or just curious what others are up to, come on up.
We've got time tonight to talk through projects, questions, rants,
whatever's on your mind.
Request a mic and we'll get you on stage.
Kryptonio, how are you are you my man how's it going
i'm doing great man what about you i am super fantastic but i'll get better don't you worry
what uh what is going on over in your end of the world have you been busy did you maybe
grab a myth fit when they dropped oh i did i did i actually grabbed only one you grabbed only one?
yeah
I just found a wallet
and I had like 25 XCZ
in that one
so I was very busy
and I didn't bother
to send funds from another wallet
so I had only for one
but I got one with a very rare hat
so you got a nice shiny hat what what overall rarity it's a cowboy it's a brown
rusty cowboy hat okay but it's a shiny because it's rare right like we like shinies
yeah you could say that there are only seven hats like that only seven that's a pretty rare hat out of three
thousand three hundred and thirty three i just recently added to the stage mr oh sorry mr doctor
that's what he wanted me to call him last time so mr doctor welcome to the stage hello how are you
super fantastic plug it better how are you my man I'm good. I'm just very tired.
Was it leg day?
No, it wasn't. Leg day is Thursday. Today was upper body day, and I'm absolutely shattered as a result.
Are you doing these weird flying cross moves? Are you hanging from bars and doing all kinds of workouts these days?
I'm doing lots of weights, not particularly heavy weights, because i haven't done anything for about five years properly but i've got a uh
i've got a personal trainer who is a lump of muscle and competes uh in bodybuilding competitions
and that there isn't any messing around and so it's not like those videos i see of those ladies with
like a elastic band to the ceiling and they're just like jumping around like cats no um if he
if he finds out that i've had a few drinks tonight before as well he he punishes me by making me lift
heavier weights so is it really punishing you though is he's just pushing more out of you you
know well it feels like it feels like punishment today.
So anyway, that's what I've been doing.
Well, it sounds like you are on the path to becoming someone not to mess with.
Not that you worked before, but watch out, folks.
Don't make the man angry.
He will pick you up and shake you.
Oh, yeah. make the man angry he will pick you up and shake you oh yeah and in other news i went to my local
record shop because i probably bored everyone last time oh you've picked up quite the habit
of these lps haven't you yeah certainly have and i went to the record shop yesterday and it shut
so i've decided instead to spend my money on a load of nfts in early september so i'm going to
be doing a an nft spending spree i think well i think that's lovely that that you know they're
not as heavy but they are they can be sometimes absolutely infinitely more beautiful than you know
vinyl art and since you want to get a record you could spend them on music and at least actually I could do I mean here's the dark thing we've come
full circle right I mean people have been listening to vinyl forever and it has it came
back in what 10 15 years ago I don't I can't remember I feel like it never went away it's
always been a viable medium.
Okay, so explain this then.
You go to the shop, and the piece of vinyl costs £20.
You can get a subscription
on a
streaming site.
Oh, let's not start this conversation, sir.
So the vinyl thing is an actual known
economy. There's a whole thing behind
it. It's established. It's been for the beginning yeah sure but are the artists are the artists getting paid
any fairer no no of course not of course not of course not yeah anyway that's my way another week
i love it no we we are all on the same page, I think, when it comes to that.
Some musicians, unfortunately, it's the battle of getting paid,
which is another amazing way that we can figure that out.
But it's good to see you coming back to the digital side, sir.
I mean, vinyl habit is huge.
I can't argue.
There's something about the weight, the heft.
There's only so many
that exist and then when you have it like back in the day it used to be like there were what
five to ten copies available in the bin at the store you had to go to the store you had to use
your money to buy it and then you were the one that had it and you carefully like studied it
intricately like every every inch of it was like it became part of you and then you
would bring it with you to places and then you would have that album and became associated it's
a whole cultural thing vinyl it's deep i'm just it is deep and i think it's a good cure for attention
deficit disorders because you've got to put the album on, listen to the album. I know you can move the arm on it, but why would you?
You've got to listen to the entire album,
and then patiently go over, turn the record over,
and then patiently listen to the second side as well.
Man, nobody tell this guy about 8-tracks.
Yeah, I never saw an 8-track.
But yeah, I know what they are
8-tracks were fun
you just had 8 spots you could go to
you had to listen to it though
anyway
well, it's good to hear that you're getting back in shape
and that you are spending your time productively
enriching your life
so it's good to hear
anything else going on?
do you have any spaces coming going on do you have any spaces
coming up do you have any um yeah well we've i don't know if i said last time but we've booted
a new test network called shadow net and we're hoping to make that a um a long-term test net
and last week we booted an etherlink test network on top of that as well.
So we're treating it 99.9999% like mainnet.
And there's 19 bakers on there that all have to run their bakers to very strict rules.
And if they want to leave, you know, it's like in a view to a kill.
Of course you can leave at any time.
And your button pressed, you know, it's out of the airplane um i'm only joking but no we we're treating it like a
production network and we want that to be a stable environment for people to develop their apps
on on so um that was a major piece of work and then i've i was going to do a an x space uh but i haven't been given a
night off this month um we we need to do a gaming chief baker's night off so still planning that one
and then are we going to reveal our secret plan uh you know that's up to you i was just curious
if we were going to play some sugar match sometime buddy yeah i mean we definitely need to play some games but um we are planning
uh with with herman we're planning a quarterly um we don't know if we're going to do it on video
yet so it could be on video could be workspace it's got to be on video at least one of us if
we could stream it to like the main feed that'd be the best but yeah I think I think we can we can do it on video just got behave ourselves um so it's going to be called you heard it here first steak house with steak
spilt like proof of steak and it will be a evening down the pub with me blanks kryptonio and herman
so we're we're planning that I think the first one's going to be in October at some point.
So looking forward to all of that.
It's good community engagement.
I'm excited.
It should be fun.
I have a lot of fun on your spaces, sir.
So thank you.
Hello, Carmelo.
Welcome to the stage.
Hey, how's it going, guys?
It's going well.
How are you?
You know, life is good i i'm so so busy and i'm moving houses these next couple weeks and i'm working right now so i'm mostly just going to
listen but i could not not say something about the vinyl thing so come on guys uh vinyl is yeah
it's it's such a better experience i started collecting music in the
mid 90s i guess before that but like really started collecting and it was all vinyl and i
started djing with vinyl and you know i don't know the whole experience i learned so much more about
music and like who's involved with what bands and producers and musicians and, you know, the story, the vinyl notes, the artwork, uh, then yeah,
when playing it,
it's just such a more fun experience looking through your records to find
music than yeah. Staring at a screen.
Like I've collected a lot of music there too, but I don't know.
It doesn't compare. And, uh, I just wanted to throw that out there and I got
to get back to work, but, uh, much love and i uh yeah i'm gonna listen in and uh it's good to hear hear everybody
we should we should we should we should rename them the x-space final day or something like that
just just fork off yeah we can do that in the second hour about that yeah we'll move into
the uh you know we'll talk about vinyl we'll talk into you know how the laser disc seemed
threatening but it never really had a chance you know we'll get into that later this vinyl yeah you
know of a clip i saw uh with a pawn shop uh well well where rick had a record of Bob Dylan and he said like
I can sell it for 75 bucks right now
but I want to find Bob Dylan and
get him to sign it so I can sell it for more
and he sends his son
to find him
he does find him
and Bob Dylan signs it
but his son told him to sign it
to Cham Lee and then he was like
who the fuck is going to buy the record that has a signature to you?
Like it's your name.
And that was pretty funny.
I just happened to see the clip today.
Totally.
Right on guys.
I got to get back to work.
you need to ignore your,
I'm kidding.
Have a good one,
man.
Enjoy your work. Work hard. No, no, you need to ignore your, no, I'm kidding. Have a good one, man. Enjoy your work.
Work hard.
Yes, for sure.
I'm cleaning like a million dollar vacation rental today.
It's a, it's a nice house.
I wish I lived here, but.
Oh man, that can be rough.
I mean, it's a mixed bag if it's a vacation rental.
So you're talking about main use areas, high traffic areas, but then what,, once a month you've got to go through and then dust the top of everything.
Oh, God.
Yeah, it's just a thing.
And it's whatever.
It's a temporary thing.
I have mad respect, dude.
You get to see the insides of people's lives, especially the ones who pretend like they're better than all of us.
But they're actually exactly the same.
Absolutely.
Mad respect. bus, but they're actually exactly the same. So absolutely. And it is weird because I will hand
it to the owner that he's like, you know, he's, he's, he's, he's trying and he's doing a pretty
good job. And he's, he's a somewhat, he tries to be somewhat normal, but it's, it's a little funny,
but I am looking out at the Pacific ocean right now and it's gorgeous from the deck and I, uh,
I can't complain. It's's a it's a good job so
anyway take care y'all have a good conversation i'm going to listen in and uh and hear hear what
you say appreciate you man yeah man i can i can just imagine the views how before you go man how
far south on the pacific coast are we talking is it like the gray northwest or have you started
becoming like sandy beaches in oregon No, I'm far North California.
So I'm like right below the Oregon border. I'm in Humboldt County.
Oh, you've got the most beautiful beaches. Okay. Anyway, I love you, man.
Thank you for sharing. I appreciate it.
It is gorgeous. And here, maybe I'll try and share a picture to the thread
if I can figure it out. But anyway, take care.
Love it, man. Appreciate you, man. Thank you.
Very true.
Oh, man, that's great.
Oh, the Pacific Coast.
I do miss it.
Do you know what I don't miss, though?
I mean, I live in the desert,
for anyone who's wondering
why I'm getting all excited about the ocean.
But I don't miss the humidity.
I don't miss the air water.
I miss the groundwater.
I don't miss the air water.
But anyway.
11 years.
11 years from Pezzos White Paper. How about that?
11 years ago
some guy, and we don't know
who he is still, and we never will
and we'll never admit to knowing who he is
if we did know who he was, so don't ask.
But this guy named...
Was it LM Goodman?
I know who he is.
No, you don't.
You never heard of him before.
I just said it.
No, anyway, he penned this amazing white paper
about a generic crypto
that very well could change the world.
Something, something.
Something, something is really exciting
if you understand what he's talking about.
But I just saw how excited the people who understood
were. That's what got me excited.
I'm one of those people.
Yeah.
It's been 11 years.
Can you believe that?
From the wet paper. Actually, it's a fun fact
that not even Ethereum had launched at that point when the white paper was
released you know it was just bitcoin it was like the crypto space was totally different back then
from what had been told well this this is it I mean one of the things that um
one of the things cited in as us having governance
is the ethereum folk and trying to prevent a fork like that.
But actually, when the governance idea was being developed, I don't think Ethereum had
actually forked at that point.
I could be completely wrong.
Ethereum launched, I think, July 2015, right?
The White Paper was published in 2014, September.
So Ethereum hadn't launched yet.
Right.
But then obviously the hard fork was one of the main points
about the governance discussions.
Yeah, exactly.
So the Ethereum fork occurred after that idea.
Yeah, yeah, totally.
Set up.
And quite a lot of people don't don't realize that and it's
often cited as one of the reasons that you'd have we have governance on tez i mean it is a reason to
have governance to prevent prevent thought but that governance wasn't wasn't even an idea back
then like they they didn't even talk about it you know until like, until it came up with the white paper and stuff.
Like, they didn't think that it was a problem, you know, that we need on-chain governance or whatever.
But later on, as you said, with the hard fork of Ethereum and the hard forks from Bitcoin, like,
those things like, kind of pointed out why governance is needed.
On-chain governance.
But still, Chris, do you think like onchain governance
is actually showcased on Tezos yet? Like, yeah, we get the upgrades and everything but I kind of feel like it will be much more important when we
will have like a much bigger community like when you know you have more funds
more more bigger powers at play you know what I mean well well possibly I mean
it's quite important for our layer 2 where we've had quite a lot of governance elections already, you know, in portion to the amount of time that it's been around.
Yeah, I mean, I think I think as more people get involved, obviously more and more, there'll be more debate, more difference of opinion, and the process will be more interesting
in the sense that there'll be more people voting yes and no
and splitting the vote a bit more, I guess.
Would it be fair, Chris, to say that examples of where, say,
there was a contentious vote,
that was a great example of where our governance was shining,
we get an opportunity to address issues things of that nature yeah i mean i i think there was there was one when i just
started there was the liquidity baking which which uh liquid pour to use and i think i think there was
a bit of a division over that one uh and then i think the next one there might have been something
before that actually but that's before my time so i don't remember it i think there was a bit of a division over that one uh and then I think the next one there might have been something before that actually but that's before my time so I don't remember it I think
there was something before that though of course there was the queue uh the queue um elections
where we had different proposals and some discussion around it so yeah I think I think
it I think it is a powerful thing and uh I you're right, as we get bigger, it will become
more important and people will have more to say about it.
Yeah, and I think you're right that the first actual proposal that didn't go through was
the one with the liquidity baking, the first one.
I can't remember which one it was though.
It wasn't Granada.
I think it was the one after, wasn't it?
Because Granada was being deployed when I joined.
And that was July 2021.
I just wrote an article with all the upgrades with my desert and stuff.
I should remember, but I don't.
Sorry.
That's old age, unfortunately.
You can't avoid it.
I mean, we had 18 of them.
You can't blame me.
I mean, okay.
You know I always have a wacky idea every two weeks.
Here's a wacky idea.
How about stakers voting? Not justy idea. How about stakers voting?
Not just bakers.
How about stakers get a vote as well?
That would make things more interesting.
Yeah.
Maybe.
I don't know, man.
I feel like a staker, they're not baking, so they shouldn't get as much of a vote.
I mean, that's the whole oz.
No, but they still have skin in the game, right?
Of course.
Yeah, so a baker is also called a delegate.
There is a word.
We don't use it so much.
So a delegate is someone that votes in the elections, right?
So maybe the baker gets more of a vote
because they're running a system.
But perhaps a staker should i think could a staker control a percentage of that baker's vote
uh well that that could be one way to do it i mean i suppose the problem is a staker can
what i suppose a baker can as well you can unstake and stake so you'd have to yeah
not in time many times you know what i mean like um when you want to change like you find out that
your baker is gonna vote uh differently than what you want i think that the ideal thing would be
if you had the option to override his vote with your stake you know what do i mean like yeah if you want to vote differently then you could
like uh signal that and vote differently as an individual staker but by default i think you
should be delegating your uh votes to a baker to make it easier you know because not every staker
is going to be interested in participating in the governance and stuff well well maybe not but or maybe who knows it's um
it's how involved people are in we've got we've got projects on chains where you know the users
are using some application they don't even realize they've got a wallet you know yeah there are
there are applications out there but then you've got you've got other users that do care, and they do understand what's going on.
So anyway, that was the working idea of the week.
Well, some people still don't know how to use email.
Oh, I know them.
Yes, I know them well.
so i'm looking at uh potential contentious upgrades uh i think there was um
yeah your granada was the big one right granada was the
yeah that one was the huge one that one was kind of the big one.
Q is sort of like,
dude, you're screwing everything up. Are we, though?
We're taking advantage of our right
to sort of analyze this and ask questions.
It was an interesting one.
I find it interesting always
when we have this model.
I always think back to the days
when I was a kid and we're in a treehouse
and you got your club and the joke was
there was a president or whatever
and how you make votes and how does it really matter.
I think we're all
still at that stage at some
level, still trying to make
the treehouse club work.
And these
questions that we get to ask ourselves
are weird ones because I don't think anybody else really even considers them an issue.
They don't even know that it's something that they need to take care of or control.
Well, one thing that I did lobby for it, but I mean, we didn't do it in the end.
Each of the phases of the governance are about two weeks so in in the modern cycles
they're 14 about 14 cycles keep me honest here um now of course if you followed those cycles to the
letter in the exploration and the cool down you'd be doing your testing and then your
promotion adoption you'll be doing your
you know your finalization of your code and getting everything live
but you know there are a couple of things that have occurred outside of that so there's a library
called taquito which quite a lot of the wallets use so taquito has got to be ready in some way so that the wallets can upgrade so there's quite a
lot of um work there to fit into those those governance periods and also there's a hesitant
sometimes to put out the final product until the promotion has actually been done and the protocol is accepted so there is there is a there is a there is mileage to make
those uh governance periods perhaps a little longer to give people time to be ready that's
another contentious idea i've just thrown out well we we shortened that didn't we it used to be uh
six months so now we're three, right? It wasn't six.
It was like three months and something,
and we took it down to like two and a half now.
Okay.
We actually added an extra phase.
It used to be just four phases, and we added an extra one,
but we shortened its phase.
So in total, the whole process is shorter than it used to be.
And you want to add a little bit of padding
on each of those phases, Mr. Pennington, Mr. Doctor?
Not necessarily.
I think it would be useful in adoption
to have another week, perhaps, to get everything ready,
and maybe another week in cool-down.
Just somewhere where you're doing activity
you know because like exploration you know people have voted first for the thing
so it's likely to go ahead in some form during cool down you're doing your testing
and during adoption you're getting everything ready in theory right i mean the reality is
people are doing but but you have the promotion in between as well right like you could do keep doing your testing from cool down to adoption technically
well you could but at that point you probably want to be doing lots of implementation as well
right i mean it's just it's just an idea it's just something to observe because i run the the weekly
uh protocol ecosystem.
You're out of the tube, Baker.
You tell us.
Well, I'm just stating some fact.
So one of the things we do is when we get to exploration,
we start bugging the projects for a status update on where they are.
And sometimes we get a project unread because it's not know there's a danger it's not going to be ready and a couple of us jump on that to try and get it to amber or
green even better so at the moment I would say for sale we're 95% ready I'm only aware of one
project that needs needs someone to get their pencil and pen out and do something,
but that's been taken care of.
By the way, what's the ratio of bakers that are ready in each upgrade?
I assume that there will be some bakers that don't upgrade in time on their nodes or whatever is needed from their site.
Like, do you have those cases or is it like 99% or 100%?
I don't. I mean, Herman is the guy to ask about that.
But I think one of the things with version 23 that we're going to have is you've got this consolidated baker
so if you're running the consolidated bake you don't have to worry about
the protocols it automatically switches but that's that's one good thing so whereas in the past you
had to you know upgrade your octa's software and make sure that you're running the baker both bakers
one for the up the current protocol one
for the new now you can just have octos baker running and if you're using the packaging
i think i think it does that for you so there's a bit less to do there's a bit less to worry about
the self-amending part, right?
That's exactly what it is, yeah.
Yeah, makes sense.
And we got it all going like in three days, it's going into adoption phase, right?
It reached Quorum in the promotion phase phase and now it's going into adoption
i think in three days or so and then get activated it's on 19th
in three in three days about 19th of september is the date for
for adoption now i mean there's as an aside I always joke with the protocol team that they propose a proposal so that the date of adoption falls on my holiday.
And now this year, I was thinking 19th of September, oh, I'm not on holiday. Happy days.
I think Hermione gets them to do it actually probably yeah well then i forgot didn't i
and then i went and booked a holiday and guess when i booked the holiday over yeah so basically
it's my destiny to be on holiday for protocol switches i mean it's almost at this point, if you're not, it's probably bad luck.
It could go wrong. Yeah, that is true.
You better just go. I mean, at this point, it's worked so far.
We don't want to mess with a good thing.
You could say that you do it just so you're in a fitting time zone.
I travel just to be, you know i'm gonna be i'm gonna be in
beachfront property on the south coast of england so i don't know if that changes the time zone
nah it doesn't it's better next time i mean it changes the mindset that's for sure
i said certainly it does by the way someone asked me i can't remember if it was on
I said, certainly does. By the way, someone asked me, I can't remember if it was on my X space or here.
Someone asked me, what do I need to do the TF bakers?
Or so. And I just said, oh, just update the software and use the new consolidated baker.
But there's actually quite an important thing. If you run a remote signer and you're using Signatory, then you need to update that remote signer
because there's some changes in that.
Yeah, so I've got a little bit more work to do than I thought,
but I'm nearly there.
By the way, Chris, not to put you on the spot here,
but what's the current situation with the Tezos Foundation Bakery since staking?
I think I'm only asking because I know that you've commented on it in the past publicly.
So like how much is staked?
Like because I saw we reached in the ecosystem, we reached the 26% mark we passed it actually.
And I was wondering, like, are now the TES Foundation Breakers, are they staking
all their TES or like, what's the situation there?
So what we intended to do when we thought about this a year ago, what we were going
to do is follow the network.
So if the network was staked at about 20 20 we would make sure that we were staked at 20 and by that we meant
balances of the eight bakers and the custodians i think we've we've got about eight we've got 11
custodian accounts and they're delegated to various bakers okay so if you take all of those funds add them up take.
Kevin Cousin, The percent that you get the state percentage that's the state percentage actually you can get all this is all a matter of public record if someone went and had a look at the block explorer they could find it out so.
and had a look at the Block Explorer, they could find it out.
So I'm not telling you anything that's not public.
But I mean, we have actually spent some of our funds
on some grants recently.
So that has left us at a staking ratio of about 34%.
So we are a bit above the network,
or we're quite a bit above the network.
So we could either lower it or we could stay put
and uh we decided it's better to stay put yeah exactly i mean if if the the network staking
started to go down significantly we might lower it because you know having being staked more means
that we'd be getting more rewards and we don't particularly want to be greedy.
So we stuck at that. We're at about 34%.
No, that makes total sense.
But yeah, it's good to see that we reached the 26% ratio.
As a reminder, when Paris B activated and we got the new staking role and the new staking mechanism, everything,
we only had 8% of the stake actually locked, which was from the bakers.
We didn't have the staker role before that.
And we only had actually 8% being locked at stake, actually at stake in the network.
So now we're up 26, it's a huge increase and that's good to see.
And we got retro up here. Retro, how are you doing?
Are you up already or still in the middle of the transition?
Transition.
I guess transition is a good word.
What's up, everyone?
It's about half nine here.
So, yeah.
First day of school for my kids tomorrow.
Nice.
Always interesting when they go back after they've been home for a while
i still have 10 days for that what 10 days yeah yeah yeah they start up till september
september 11th we can't be friends sorry my kid's been in school for a month already
wow okay i was feeling hard done by and yeah, sorry Blanks, I apologize. Kryptonio,
we're friends again. It's all good.
How are you doing, Retro? Got anything going on? Anything you wanted to ask? What's up?
Yeah, I'm doing well. Firstly, I'm guessing you know what I've come to talk about more than likely.
Unchain minting with zero contract.
Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
Actually, I wanted to mention it before when Chris was talking about ShadowNet.
I want to mention that we had the community call on Friday and we were discussing about
and we were discussing about Johnstoblues wanting to,
not wanting, preparing actually, planning to deploy the Testnet contracts
on ShadowNet to have them there for any testing needed and everything.
So, yeah.
Yeah, I'm not too clued up on that whole aspect, to be honest.
But yeah, I was there when we were, I think I was there when we were talking about it.
I've been deep in using GhostNet, though, so far.
So I guess there's not too much of a change from our side,
or will it mean a big difference?
No, I think it's the same thing for you.
I think that, yeah, with the wallets,
you will just need to connect with a shut-on.
But I know if they will make it seamless, you know,
on the website of Zero Unbound.
But now when you go and connect to GhostNet,
do you have to use GhostNet Kukai or Temple?
Or just on Temple, you know, you choose GhostNet Network.
How do you do it?
So on Zero Unbound, there's just a dropdown menu, switch to GhostNet.
You don't even have to do anything with your wallet.
And maybe that's because I've updated Temple.
But you know how with object, you have to go to GhostNet object,
or with Better Call Deb, you have to switch to GhostNet.
Right.
And then log in with your wallet again. You don't have to do that with your own band yes that's
why I said that if they make it seamless so zero unbound probably made it
seamless to because the wallet you have on the main it you can have the same
key the same address I think on testnet as well so they are using that or a
memory seconder Chris you can you can you can, yeah. It's just a key, you're signing on a different network.
So, KuKai are gonna do a ShadowNet deployment
of their wallet in the next couple of weeks.
So, they will be there.
But, I mean, any wallet in theory can use it.
It's just where you set the network in that wallet.
So, I can't remember off the top of my head
if you can put a custom one into Temple,
but if you can, away custom one into temple but um if
you can you you away you go but they'll be adding it i suspect in the next couple of weeks i'll be
i'll be in touch with them but since zero unbound temple temple just has a test net temple has a
test net switch but with zero unbound you don't actually have to do anything you just click the
drop down in zero unbound to change it to GhostNet and it just works.
It uses your GhostNet tesis and that's it.
Yeah, that's what I was going to say, that since Zero Unbound already has made it seamless,
you can just switch the network regardless of your wallet when you're connected to their
platform, I suppose.
That's what my experience has been with it.
Yeah, it's been I mean, what Jams2Blues has done is made it.
I mean, it's still in progress and there's still lots of things that he's constantly working on.
I don't know how he's doing it, to be honest with you, but yeah, he's constantly working on it
constantly working on it and the improvements are incredible so and and the reason i wanted to come
and the improvements are incredible.
up and talk is because i spent the last few days creating a really detailed tutorial which i just
want to spread as far and wide as possible because i think it's now is a really good time to start
minting on chain if you're interesting also to collecting on chain as well
if you're a collector um while the i don't know what's going to happen to the price of tezos but
it's a good time in my opinion and zero and band has made the process really super easy if anyone
remembers when i did that first tutorial when yes them first created the contract and the tutorial was how to use it using better called on YouTube.
Yeah.
Um, but yeah, this new tutorial it's, it's both on YouTube and in, uh, Twitter.
I did two versions.
It's subtitled on both, but all the links are on the YouTube version, but the
YouTube version's in the clip, but it's my pin tweet.
So go check it out. Book it retweet it like it ask questions dm me if you need um we've got a dm
group but it's a little bit long so please bear with it but that's because when i've been talking
to people and kind of walking people through the process. They've got so many questions.
So I thought, well, rather than doing that, it'll be easy just to say, watch the
video, cause it, it should answer the majority of your questions.
Um, and also for anyone who doesn't realize the marketplace is built into
zero and bound is 0%.
So there's no fee if you list on zero and bound.
Um, so it's a huge plus.
But yeah, go check out that tutorial.
Have a go on GhostNet.
I show you how pretty simply how to get your GhostNet tesis on there,
how to kind of optimize your files for the best upload
and for the smallest file and how to use it and
remember if anyone doesn't realize once you've minted you can edit your mints
which means you can swap the artwork out doesn't cost you anymore as long as it's
the same file size or you can put a bigger file size in there you've already
paid for the storage you just pay for the remaining storage you can change the
name the title the tags the royalties, everything.
So, yeah, go and check it out and give it a test.
By the way, the storage pieces are getting burned on Tezos,
if I remember correctly.
So that means the more you guys mean, the more XTC is getting burned,
the better for everyone.
Oh, maybe you need to explain that one to me.
So in most situations when you've got some sort of,
like imagine you have a 500 of 500 multiple mint,
and let's say you got to burn one to go do something.
Does that increase the rarity of the remaining mint just by nature
as you're burning them off in the nature of doing things?
Are you asking Kryptonio on me?
You, Mr. Retro.
No, he's asking you.
Okay.
Okay.
So when it comes to burning, there's two ways.
You know how you've got send to your burn address,
the old school way of doing things yeah
um that's which doesn't really burn it we know that that still exists right well there's also
destroy when you mint on chain the way that zero unbound and zero contract have created a destroy
uh function so it removes the token and i i show you this in the tutorial but you can prove it on better core
dev that the token's been removed so it's not sent to a burn address yeah is that what you're
asking is that what you're asking blanks it removes no what i'm asking you is because you're
asking me how does burning tes increase the value overall in the community what i'm asking you is
if you had a limited like 500 run but then let's say 150 of them disappeared,
you've only got a 350 run.
And as Tezos disappeared,
now they're being obviously created every block,
but obviously any way we can burn them,
it's another offset to that mechanic.
So you're burning Tez by doing this.
You're doing a huge service just in and of itself, just so you know.
You're making Tez most cars.
I understand.
I thought you were asking me a question.
I get it. I get what you're saying.
And Retro,
I'm super proud of you. I just want to say
this before he clarifies.
You used to be so
afraid to come up here and talk like this.
Now you are like pro.
You have this down.
You are too.
I love it.
And I'm so proud of you.
This is so good.
Yeah, I was going to say that I just
want to clarify regarding the burning.
When you're doing transaction on Tezos,
you basically have two fees, right?
The storage fees and the normal baking fees.
The storage fees on Tezos are getting burned.
They are not going anywhere to the bakers.
The bakers are receiving the baking fees
that you pay for the transaction, basically.
I think they have a different name for the baking fees,
but I call them baking fees anyway.
So when you actually pay storage for the chain,
you know, to put it on chain, all that payment is getting burnt.
So you're making basically Tesmor's cars that way
because you're using storage space.
So that's what I was referring earlier.
Ah, okay. Yeah, I understand.
And there are getting bigger and bigger mints happening
there so my latest collection they were all over 100 kilobytes i know a few other artists as well
they're going well over 100 kilobytes with some of their mints as well so it's people people are
trusting it more and more and and getting riskier it. So I think it's really cool.
And the artwork on there, if you haven't been to Xero Unbound and checked out the artwork,
it's incredible. There's so much good stuff on there.
I actually have pinned your guide up here on the space for anybody interested,
and I'll check it myself as well.
I actually, on your previous guide,
I think I mentioned it when I had made an article
about the early, early version of Zero Unbound
and I mentioned your guide along with some UI,
the first UI that came out back then.
That guide, the previous one,
it was like four hours long from you, I think, right?
No, no, it wasn't four hours.
It was 40 minutes.
It's pretty much the same length as this.
This one's slightly shorter.
It wasn't four hours.
I don't think I've got it in there.
40 minutes of better call dev made it seem like four hours probably.
Oh, yeah, 100%. But the thing is, so there's something I've become very familiar or more familiar with Better Call Dev.
And the way Yes Dem has created the contract is that even if there was no marketplace,
If you're familiar with better call dev, which in my understanding is the back end of Tezos,
if you're familiar with Better Call Dev, which in my understanding is the back end of Tezos,
but you can access the back end of Tezos without a UI, even though better call dev is essentially a UI,
but he's made it so you can access that contract.
You can mint with that contract and do all the things you pretty much could normally,
if you've got a little bit of, you know, know how on the way it works.
So even if all of the marketplaces went down, it's still there.
And also remember, there's no IPFS link, so it all exists on Tezo.
So it's yours.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, Better Call Dev, the first time I used Better Call Dev,
I actually tried to figure out how it works.
It was actually with the TezArt mint, because if you remember,
the whole RPC and the website went down and everything.
It was a mayhem.
And I had to figure out, and I was shown by a friend,
how to do it on Better Call Dev.
And then I got it, like what it is about.
And as you said, Better Call Dev is actually, you know,
an explorer for smart contracts.
So you can find all the smart contracts.
And when I say smart contracts, that includes all the projects that we know.
Object has a bunch of smart contracts.
Not every project is just a single smart contract, right?
It's one project who have like 15 smart contracts, one for the Minter, one for the listings,
another for the marketplace, like a bunch of smart contracts. But once you figure out how to
navigate the smart contracts with their addresses, Better Call Dev basically gives you the buttons,
you know, the calls for each smart contract where you can mint, where you can like burn,
where you can like change something, list something.
It has those calls.
And I assume what you're saying is that yes, I made it.
So the calls and the names are actually, you know, you can tell which is which,
because in some smart contracts, they write the calls and you don't understand what this one means, right?
They know, but you don't know. and you need a UI to use them.
But I assume that he made it easier,
and you can basically interact with the marketplace,
with the minter, with everything through Better Call Dev,
even if there is no UI, as you said,
and that goes for most projects, I think,
like for most smart contracts.
So, yeah.
Yeah, so it's really clear.
So everything exactly, pretty much the, the names are pretty much exactly the same as
they are on zero unbound for the functions.
And just remember that the artwork, the token is the artwork.
So it's not a link to the artwork.
So for, for anyone, especially a collector who might see some of this artwork and say,
why is it so expensive? That's not how much stuff is on Tezos.
Just understand how much it costs.
So for instance, the recent piece I minted costs nearly 60 Tez to mint.
So that's a very big different amount compared to when you have it stored off chain.
But when you look at the token
when you go to better call dev and actually view what's in your token it does open your eyes a
little bit and that's not me on ipfs because i use it and it has its function and its purpose
but it's just to show people that you know you know what you're collecting so when people are
charging more for their unchainments you understand what you're buying and what you're collecting yeah and just to make
it clear nobody's charging you more it's you're paying the chain actually for the space that
you're using so yeah it's not like zero yeah it's like it's retro he's charging you retro's
charging you it's all retro all the. All the money. All the money.
It goes to me for creating this tutorial.
So, yeah.
If only, right?
If only, man.
Can you imagine?
I want to quickly go to Katerina, who came up the stage a little while ago, and we haven't even said hi.
Hi, Katerina.
Welcome.
You snuck up. Hello.
Okay, maybe we got her in a bad moment.
We can't unmute.
That's fine.
Well, welcome to the stage, nonetheless.
Thanks for joining.
But yeah, as I said, like a better call dev is, you know,
like the next level for somebody who is interested in more,
to dig more into how blockchains work and stuff.
Like you could explore that as well.
But it is also like a nice backup to know in case, you know,
platform that we're using goes down, the project you're using goes down.
It's another way, a backdoor where you can use it to do whatever you want and list something
you had listed or you forgot something two years ago and now the platform is gone, right?
is gone, right? You can still go to the smart contracts and interact with them through that.
You can still go to the smart contracts and interact with them through that.
Yeah. And I think even though it's complicated, I definitely understand that. And I may take that
for granted now because I've spent more time on it. But I think it is important to at least go and
put in the contract address of your contracts or maybe a collection you have, and then go and have
a look at the tokens in there and just see what those tokens are made of and understand what what you're buying and what you're collecting i think
it's it's really cool to see what it is and what this whole culture is about um because sometimes
you just see the front end and it's what we're being told to look at do you know what i mean
but it's not necessarily what it actually is so i think it becomes more
important and if you if you think about the next five ten years maybe even longer i think it's going
to become more eye-opening and important to see oh that's i knew what i was buying back then versus
oh what happened to that do you know what i mean um depending on what what goes down and what other
marketplaces pop up or what, forget even artwork, it might
be other things that we're buying, just to understand what it is that's going into your wallet.
Yeah, and just to clarify, don't get overwhelmed. Well, actually, it's natural to get overwhelmed
when you try to explore it. And especially if you try it with you know with a project like object if you go to
input the object let's say smart contract you will probably get lost because they have a bunch
of smart contracts for many different purposes and I think that at some point I if I remember
correctly like when you make a new collection, it's a separate smart contract created. So that makes it a thousand times more complicated.
But yeah, if you are into this stuff,
it's an interesting skill to have.
And obviously not everybody needs to do it.
It's, as I said, the extra step if you like digging into this stuff.
If you follow my tutorial it i think i make it
i just show the the essentials i think of what i'm talking about so
yeah have a look have a go and see if it's worth it
nice man nice all right she'll she'll promotion over
no promotion there um i actually saw Jumps Blues.
Was it Jumps?
Yeah, it was Jumps.
Discussing in a thread with somebody asking about wanting to mint some specific format
or type of file.
The teletext one.
Yeah, right, right.
Yeah.
And he was like, yeah, give me two days.
I mean, man, what the hell?
He jumped into it right away and he's such a great builder, man.
Did you hear him the other day in, I think, I'm not sure if it was a Tezos Common Space,
but he mentioned one of his big goals for this as well is to create a MIDI player in there as well.
Oh, I think it was in Yoshi's space.
Yeah, it was.
Yeah, so that's super exciting.
That's the first time I heard him say that.
So that was really exciting for me.
So I'm just looking forward to what he comes up with, but he's some kind of genius, for real.
Yeah, great builder.
We have many great builders in the TezvA ecosystem.
We should spotlight them more.
Him and Jack.
Jack, now that's information you wouldn't probably know that,
but Jack in August got so many nominations for Tezos CRP.
It's crazy and very deserving as well,
because he did the archiver and obviously Jams gets a lot of nominations.
I like to see that.
I like to see people supporting our builders, man.
Yeah, Jack and YesDem, I believe, both have created archivers as well.
So that's another really important aspect of collecting, I think.
I haven't even looked into it properly yet, but I think there was something called NFT Club,
which fell apart a while back.
But what they're doing is just way more robust, as far as I know.
Hello, Wise.
Welcome. We got Wise up on the stage.
We got Ryan.
We got Ryan.
Welcome.
Hello.
We're growing.
I'm here for the MIDI.
I heard MIDI and I'm like, I got to go up.
I really think it's like an under uh appreciated medium you know and and uh i
talked to him like really briefly like a couple months ago and yeah i don't know i honestly
thought maybe he forgot but if he's still working on it that's great. Because yeah, in case people don't know,
we started supporting MIDI files on Teya a while ago.
And, but the problem was how to render it, you know?
Because yeah, and it's tricky.
Like there's not very, there's not a lot of packages out there that plays MIDI files properly.
But it's like an essential tool for musicians.
And not a lot of people know about it.
But the great thing about it is that it works really well with really well with uh you know things like on-chain
minting because it's so compressed so yeah no it's great to see uh someone like picking it up and
working on it you know yeah i'm also wondering how it's gonna work like midi from what I understand, is it just a type of file, right?
Yeah, you can think of it.
I mean, it's like the code version of music. Right.
It's just a series of...
So you need a software to actually translate that and play that, right?
Yep, yep.
So you need a player.
And then if you want to do visualizations, there's that too.
But it gets a little bit
tricky, um, mostly because, you know, it's kind of like you can make it whatever you
want, right.
In a way, but, uh, a lot of people, like even myself, when I was trying to build
things around it, you struggle with like, well, what, how do I render it?
around it you struggle with like well what how do i render it right um yeah so but you know if
Right.
someone who knows what they're doing kind of is working on it i think it's going to be interesting
yeah it will be yeah regardless of what happens it's going to be very interesting so
i have a question ryan if you don't mind Sure. If you've made something in a DAW
and it's made using the piano roll or something like that,
can you export that as MIDI
and then have something like a MIDI player on-chain play it?
Yes, yes.
Awesome.
Okay.
So you don't need to code it in any way.
You can actually play it in a DAW, export it as a MIDI,
and then that can also be... As as you compose it using midi um it doesn't
uh so like it can't use it can't use actual instrument samples no no no no no yeah that's
the stuff that makes the files huge right yeah but this is just like the back end uh instructions right it's basically
telling the computer play this no play this no play this no and you you attach the samples on
top of that right and that's what makes the music but uh see so see this is kind of like the reason
why you can get overwhelmed is because if it's just a series of notes, right?
Like you can change the instrumentation, you can do an arrangements, you can like, you know, I don't know.
If you feel like that instrument's too high or too low, you can just bump it up, right?
Like you can do so many things, but like it captures captures the essence of what the composition is.
So it's basically like, you can think of it as like sheet music.
It's just a bunch of notes, but with those notes, yeah, digital.
It's a digitized version of it.
But yeah, they have pieces, right?
Like, oh, I i wanna make an arrangement
of that piano piece for violin and cello or something right and what you do is you take the
notes and then arrange it and then yeah and then so you can do all kinds of stuff like that but
digitally and i feel like it's a very, very powerful medium that
people kind of overlooked, especially since it's so small,
you know, I think I have one on Taya right now, if you look at my account, there's one from a while ago, I uploaded. And it's
like a 45 minute piece. And it's like less than 400 kilobytes, you know?
So yeah.
The thing is you can, you can change the instrumentation however you want.
You can actually let the user pick what instruments they want for each voice.
Like, so...
I'm reading here as well exactly what you said,
that MIDI files are just instructions that don't contain actual audio data.
That's why they are very small in size compared to an audio file, yeah.
So if you think about it, it's similar to classical music, right?
Like, a lot of the composers we listen to today,
they haven't been around for like hundreds
of years right but we have their instructions so you take those instructions and then you give it
to a performer and you know the music comes to life so to speak right it's kind of like the
performers so we have a digital version of that already.
And, you know, I think it's a very interesting idea if we can kind of like integrate it into this ecosystem somehow.
And yeah, I think Tesla's is the place to do it, you know?
That was the plan of what we wanted to do,
but then it got hard, you know?
That was like two years ago. And, you you know we're really proud that we made it part of the lexicon so to speak right but it's been very underused
because it's a challenging um problem but uh you know i've just working on it that's really awesome
that's why i say that yeah let's see let's see how that you know develops it will be interesting for sure and we got a lot of musicians
in the tools community so it's a it's every musician uses this so yeah you know it's not
it's not yeah some niche like obscure thing it's it's everywhere
Yeah, some niche, like obscure thing.
It's everywhere.
Right.
I see you have come up.
I saw you raising your hand.
Do you have a question or a comment on this specific topic?
Otherwise, I'd like to go to Vice first if it's not on that topic.
Yeah, no, it's absolutely on this topic because, I mean, like for a second, though, I wasn't sure, you know, retro.
He's learning about this and it's great that ryan's
telling him but really i mean i just kind of i wanted to share a program that uses midi and i
have it pinned in the jumbotron so that retro could actually take a look at it um midi which
stands for a musical instrument digital interface you know it's just information so without like
some kind of like electronic device or you have have an, you have a MIDI controller sometimes, or a synthesizer with MIDI capability
that's plugged into something like a laptop, which can actually give you audio, you can't hear
anything. And when he's talking about the way it looks, I wanted you to see how it looks. So that's
why I pin this here. And this is a great, um, this is a UK company that does this. And so it's fun to play with because it shows you actual sheet music. It doesn't just show you the MIDI. You can play around with it. Yes, there are lots and lots of other programs as Ryan had, you know, talked, that's been going around for years and years that we use in just traditional digital audio workstations. But I like the way this particular program uses AI to rearrange and,
you know, the MIDI based on like different scales that you want to use. You can do different chord
changes, different moods. I mean, it has limited instrumentation in this particular app, but I know
that they've been
developing it more. But like, if you want to just, you know, try something out that doesn't cost you
very much money, it's like $7. And you can actually experience what the MIDI looks like,
versus what the actual sheet music looks like. And, you know, since Kryptonio wants to go on,
I won't say anything more about this topic, because I feel like now you have a great place to go look and play.
And there's probably some free things that Ryan will recommend, but I like this because it has AI.
This one is called Musical Inspiration AI.
I personally like it because a lot of these text-based AI music things, I'm not saying they're terrible and I never use them at all, but you just can't, you don't have as much precision and none of them really know the
language of music. Whereas this is getting closer to actually using more of the technicals like
Ryan was talking about. Ryan knows exactly what he's talking about. So I just want you to have
some fun with this. And then I want to hand the mic back to Kryptonio. No, no, no, you pick up a
good point because like watch the visualizations.
I feel like it's important because it's, it's kind of an experience, you know,
it's like, uh, you've seen those like piano rolls where it's like, oh,
you can see exactly what instruments are playing right at any time.
And you, oh, they're playing a higher note and a lower loan.
And you can see all the trajectories, right?
And I think it's like a really useful, like even music education tool because it kind of simulates what a musician goes through when you're like reading off of a score, right?
I don't know. would you agree with that uh right do i think it's better than reading off of a score no no not better but it you know
it's kind of close right like because uh i don't know at least as a composer like when i see those midi animations kind of roll by right it's kind of
like that's similar to like what's going on in my head you know like oh the the violin is doing this
and the piano comes in here and then yes and no i like the technology more than i like the visual
of it just because it's like, if I want to transpose,
it's a nightmare, right? And by chance, yeah, yeah, I mean, and if I'm just, if I just want
to change, like, you know, because you and I, it's part of part of the problem is we grew up,
you know, learning how to read. And so it's all of a sudden, it's almost it's like looking at
hieroglyphics. Yeah, I will agree with you. It's a little bit more, it's a bit more visually representative of what's actually going on, but I don't look the
200 or whatever few hundred year old system that our ancestors created that looks like hieroglyphics.
I mean, we've gotten used to it and, and I mean, like, I think it, it works pretty well. Can you
imagine if symphonies were reading this shit,
how messy it would look, especially with all of these instruments and different key changes?
One of the things that I think is brilliant about the original sheet music is that, you know, it's
meant to be condensed, right? They had printing problems back then. They could only print so much
fucking paper. So this was a great way to kind of condense that. What I think is most amazing about the MIDI is not like just like you said, you can pretty
much put any instrument over it.
It literally is, it's the tech that I like.
It's the tech that allows people to have so much freedom with like whatever sound they
want.
But I know that certain people who don't read music at all and you're not going to force
them to, like they like playing with the MIDI because they can just using their ears, you know, take it.
Right. Take those little bars and say, oh, you know what?
I don't want that note to be so long.
And they can take their mouse or whatever and just make a little shorter or just erase stuff.
So I think it's good to get somebody like who's into it to get into it.
I think it's good to get somebody like who's into it to get into it.
But like, if I had to like do a freaking like symphony piece like that,
it would drive me up the wall.
But why I like musical inspiration AI is because it gives you options for
both.
And that's why I'm a big fan of this startup and I am not being paid to
sell them.
I just, I'm just somebody who has enjoyed using the product.
Okay.
And I'm starting to feel like I'm maybe...
Oh, no. I mean, you made some great points. So I'm very curious now.
Okay. Thanks.
By the way, did you cut off for it or did you just cut off for me at the end?
Oh, no, no, no, no. I mean, like, I don't have my phone.
I had a phone call came through, i mean like yeah i guess i don't need to feel bad because it's just like
ryan makes a lot of good points but like even for myself i even i still like to go in the midi
sometimes and just edit a little bit but i like to be able to look at all the notes too i like i
like to be able to do all right i mean that's my primary instrument is
singing secondary instrument is piano and nobody fucking plays me to play no one pays me to play
guitar because i literally haven't put enough time into it but yeah i mean i i just kind of
as a singer you are immune to midi you know no i'm not there's a there's a new there's a new
thing out it's called vocalalia and i think it will
it makes midi out of like your vocals um and you can do that but like uh well you can't get the
text you know what you're saying right you can't get the no your voice yeah you you literally can't
but like as a as a as a songwriter as a composer i, I mean, like, of course, like I have to use MIDI and
it's based on the piano as it should be.
I mean, like there's a reason why when you go to music school that you, everyone has
to learn to play the piano because everything is based on the piano.
All the great, all the great composers played the piano and you can even see it shows you
like, it shows you which piano keys is next to each midi note if you
take a look and it's got that all right there and you can do some more fun on musical inspiration ai
thanks for the pitch oh i'm sold okay i'm gonna check it out right now.
Thank you for sharing the musical inspiration.
Yeah, actually.
I was just looking at the screenshot as well.
Although I'm not into, I'm not a musician myself,
but that seems like a very self-explanatory UI, actually.
Let me quickly go to Wise. Wise, thank you so much for waiting
and sorry for keeping you
waiting. How are you doing today?
Yeah, well,
it's 7am in my time.
Just waking up.
Enjoying the timeline
and the space for a little bit.
It's a bit interesting
overall.
Just want to kind of give a bit of
object stuff if you don't mind. It'll take
like a second.
Let's start with the
huge desert sail.
I'm just kidding.
For anyone who missed it, yeah.
There was a huge sail I have.
Yes.
I mean, I see you with a desert saying some stuff about deserts sale I have. Yes. Uh-huh. I mean, I see you with the Tezzard saying some stuff about Tezzards.
I see.
I see.
No, mine is not for sale.
Or is it?
I actually have to check.
There's been, like, interesting offers kind of coming and going.
And it's been really kind of see to see how the whole thing kind of, like, plays out.
Even my Tezzard, the one that I bought like a year,
I think almost two years ago is getting offers.
I'm like, oh, okay.
Okay.
Maybe we have like a PFP revival sort of thing happening right now.
And that's really fucking cool.
So honor the old and embrace the new.
It was all that I say about PFPs.
And in terms of, I'm here. Why not supposed to be here? What's going on, Ryan?
Maybe you didn't get the reference. I mean, here, here. Do you even know what it is?
Oh, right. Okay. Uh, like, like cheers, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got you.
Yeah, I got you.
By the way, sorry.
But there is, I discovered today,
there is an initial run of Tezzards on Hiketnup
that was done earlier.
Yeah, it's the prototype.
Yeah, teya.art slash Tezzards.
And yeah, so if you're interested in um yeah doing some diving again you know some cool stuff up there
yeah um oh my god i lost my train of thought for a moment all right it'll come to me at some point but yeah um just kind of like part of the pfp revivals which is i think is amazing is the myth has recently
did a did a drop and it sold out and it's been really kind of cool to see that 2021 energy back
even though it's just for a moment and it's wholesome it's nice and it's seeing people's like rocking the p their myth myth myth fit as i was
gonna put on mine i needed one i was gonna use it but it's a female figure with a cowboy hat i don't
really think it reflects me you know hey you can change just for a day just for a day this
i think it's freaking cool um there's also new changes
yeah there's also like new changes kind of coming up to object which i think people will be happy
about um can't exactly give the eta but um has to do with featuring has to do with like um
aesthetic wise which is kind of cool um as always my dms and the Discord are open for any kind of feedback or if you need to help with anything
and there's other
stuff that's kind of coming so I'm being hush
hush about it but
it'll be cool
to see people's reactions
it was also nice
seeing Object adding this
QK log in basically
for new users,
the new UI improvement, I think that removes a lot of friction
for non-blockchain people, for non-crypto people, you know?
Yeah, it kind of makes the onboarding a little bit easier.
You can even sign up with emails and socials and all the other stuff as well,
depending on which option that you go with.
But I think it's just a much more convenient way with onboarding. I hate to say this, but I'm option that you go with but uh i think it's just a much
more convenient way with onboarding i hate to say this but i'm just gonna go with it considering
one of the websites normies um into um yeah into nfts and getting them collecting and minting
and it'd be um yeah it'd be really kind of cool to see the statistic later on the month as well um but yeah ukada's an amazing job
object also does an amazing amazing job temple um their new evm feature
like integrating all these other chains is really cool but at the same time it can um maybe the um
the same time it can, um, maybe the, um,
the actual side could be improved for some reason it's not reflecting on the
mobile. I can only see it in the extension and the mobile is absolutely updated.
So I don't even see the, um, if address at all.
I think I did say that my mobile app,
I can only see it in the extension. Um, that's see it. I think I did see it in my mobile app. I can only see it in the extension.
That's about it.
Yeah, the extension for sure, but I think I was able to see it.
I have to dig around.
I can't remember right now.
I thought maybe it was an update thing.
Getting updated the application.
And I actually remember getting the message for the RPC to change the RPC when you had a, when there was some load and you had to change it.
But I remember it updating, but I can't remember if I checked, you know, if I could have a link there and stuff like that on the mobile app.
Anyway, but they also did their UI on the extension, right?
Like it changed a little bit.
Yeah, they really did.
So the extension just looks a lot cleaner.
And it's pretty cleaner, but also a little bit busy too,
because there's no option.
Like when you send something to anyone,
whether it's like Tezos or e if you actually have to kind of check if you're saying it to the wrong thing because
it automatically goes to e um that's the first thing it doesn't actually select tezos first
so it's a default um maybe there's i don't know why that's the case considering it was a tezo's
vault first yeah i thought that was weird too yeah i'm like did you guys sell out sell us out
what happened you know what's happening but they assure us that that's not the case
no um and also some of the like the, how to get to it changed a lot. So I have to kind of go back and make sure I'm actually clicking the wrong thing.
But it's been an interesting month with everything kind of updating and hope to see more improvements, more anything Tezos-wise to kind of like to continue the
excitement.
Yeah.
Well, I'm going to sneak in here and go ahead
and say, this is a
Tuesday Tez Day, a community
call brought to you by the Tezos
Commons.
We're up here talking with Wise,
Red, Ryan,
Retro.
I hope Catherine decides to say something, but eventually we'll get there.
But anyway, folks, this is all about you guys. This is all about what you have going on, what's going on in your lives.
So sorry for sticking my stinky little plug in there.
But Wise, did you get your Vegemite this morning?
Of course I did.
Absolutely. It's the first
thing I think of in the morning.
And twice on a Sunday.
Is it really savory?
It depends
which one you get. Less salt,
obviously the better.
But Vegemite with butter on toast?
Amazing. That I can show you on
wait wait you're already on Wednesday there over there right yeah so does it feel we're participating in a space called Tuesday Tuesday on a Wednesday I'm from the future man all I can
say is it's bright and shiny and it's a new beginning for us all.
Can I just ask what Vegemite is?
Even though as I'm saying it,
I've realized is it a vegetarian version of Marmite?
I just heard that when I said it.
Is that correct?
Marmite is the sweet one, right?
I don't know.
I didn't think Marmite was meat.
So you saying Vegemite, I'm kind of thinking, what is it?
So Vegemite is...
Hello, by the way.
Hey, Retro.
I haven't seen you in a bit.
So Vegemite is pretty much a yeast extract.
Oh, that is not the best way to show it in the beginning.
Jesus.
So it's thick, it's brown, and it's salty.
And the trick is to have it.
That's not the way to sell it either.
I know.
I know.
I thought I'm stuck away.
I'm like, okay, Think of chocolate, but salty.
Lots of umami.
It's very much a lot of umami.
It sounds tasty, honestly.
It's something like...
I think Japanese could get behind it 100%.
But I don't know.
Umami's making a comeback, man.
You take me down.
So for any vegetarians or vegans in this space,
what you can also do to kind of get that beefy taste is add a little bit to it.
Obviously, like dilute it and then add it to the mixture and you're going to get that beefy, stocky taste.
It's pretty good.
And in terms of just like having it on its own as a breakfast, there's different options of doing it.
But the one thing I always stress is just a little schmear goes a long way. Just a tiny little thing.
It's comparable to Marmite, apparently, but it has
a distinct flavor profile that's more vegetable forward and less
sweet, apparently. It's good for you. It's very good for you.
That's what we think it is, but you never know.
You know what else is good for
you paper buddha is good for you welcome to the stage welcome welcome how are you
great i heard a bunch of stuff about thick salty meat and thought it was time to come up
you know whatever brings you forward it's you know it's our pleasure. Welcome, welcome. How are you?
Good. What a great couple of days for Tezos, huh?
PFP love all over the place.
I haven't dabbled in PFPs in a minute, and yes, I have maybe dabbled lately.
Same here, same here. I thought it was over, but I'm like, oh, maybe not.
Well, remember, you came you came six weeks ago oh go
ahead i was just about to say six weeks ago or so i was you know i'm in a bunch of eth collector
chats and all of these big eth guys kept saying what's just curious what's the punk of tezos
and i heard it like 30 times in a week and i I was like, fuck it. It's Tessards.
Later, nerds.
You don't ask me how to set up a wallet later.
I'm just going to go sweep the floor.
And I just started vacuuming it up Tessards.
And I think that a whole bunch of other people are catching that same kind of sentiment in their group chats.
Yeah, something big happened today.
That's for sure.
Yeah, the free tethered?
Free tethered?
15 grand, man.
What are you talking about?
Pretty close to free.
It was just over free.
You know, maybe some fees.
See, I've got the mindset of a poor person if that's the case,
because what the heck?
Oh, you know, when you have billions of
dollars it's like it's 15 grand right i don't care you think he's gonna make his return on that
that's a good question yeah if you look at the price if you look at the price action on tezos
he's probably a pretty smart dude uh the question is will he find a buyer when when the climate is different you know
what i mean yeah my friend my friend smurto just he said something very wise you know he did the
whole schmantz drop on eath i'm sure you guys have seen and he said something uh very interesting
which is like after all of this one thing he's learned is people do not care about mid-range
traits it's either top trait or floor trait, and nothing else really matters.
Of course, there's a couple of communities like the tiny faces on Tessards, right?
Like that's where the microwave heads is another one.
But for the most part, communities don't really form out of the traits.
It's really, you know, you buy that top trait like we just saw happen or you're
buying floor pieces you know every now and then you'll get lucky in the middle
now are you working on anything right now do you have anything cooking any anything that you would like to brag about or share with us?
Do I ever?
I'm actually sitting here looking at my command line interface on my Mac where I'm going live with my Baker on mainnet,
but I'm running into a couple of issues as I'm getting it configured.
So no big announcement, but I am going live on mainnet with my Baker.
I've been on GhostNet for a couple of weeks now.
The last week was solid with zero issues, green lights all week.
So I'm feeling really good about it.
And really, you know, not only like on the nerdy side and wanting to continue the Tezos network forever
network forever and play my part in decentralization and making blocks and all of that.
and play my part in decentralization and baking blocks and all of that,
But it allows me to explore this really interesting kind of concept I have in the back of my brain
about digital patronage, about, you know, I've been in this space for a long time.
Some of you guys have bought 50 something pieces of my art.
Can I reasonably expect you to continue to buy my art to support
my career? Probably not. And honestly, I kind of get uncomfortable shilling people after a certain
amount of time when they have so much of my work. So what kind of technology does the blockchain
actually enable us? We know the royalties got cooked on ETH. Luckily, that's not happened to us here on Tezos.
But there's a lot of really accessible technology here in the Tezos ecosystem that's out of reach in other places, like being a delegator, being a baker.
I couldn't do that on Ethereum.
That's 32 ETH.
I couldn't do that on Solana.
You need at least 2,000 SOL for that.
As I look to all these other chains,
they're out of reach.
But here, somebody can literally open their Kukai wallet
or Temple wallet and stake Tez or delegate Tez to me.
And I continue to run the baker
and I'm active in on-chain governance
and I get to be a nerd.
And it also creates a stable income for me long term, right? There's some rewards
involved in baking. And so the more people that are staking and delegating, I'm creating the
livelihood out of that. And I also am able to take a percentage of my profits and put it back into
my community vault to maintain a floor price, to do buybacks do things like that so you know for me this is a
really interesting piece of technology to deploy in my infrastructure as an artist right like like
this allows really cool mechanisms where i'm able to drop artwork to the people that are staking
over a certain amount every month uh you know just a lot of really cool shit. So I'm fired up about it.
I love it. I absolutely love it.
Congratulations, man.
Infinitely jealous, more so.
Just super fantastically proud. That's amazing. Great work.
embody some major movement
and power. I don't think you don't.
So thank you. Good stuff.
You're taking the lead on artists becoming more
involved with governance.
And I think that's really important.
It's really cool.
Yeah, well, we're trying to set up our own Baker at TAO
right now.
And it's going to probably end up with zero running things.
And you know. And it's going to probably end up with zero running things.
And, you know, but yeah, we're hoping in maybe a few months, we'll have our own Taya Baker and we'll start participating in governance directly.
And yeah, you know, it's about time, right?
We should have been doing that a while ago, but better late than never, right?
Yeah, this is actually a perfect time, man.
We were talking about it the other night, and you start considering price movement, and this might be the most attainable and affordable time to actually become a baker, right?
Like, I'm an artist.
I struggle financially, so the idea of me trying to do this at a buck 50, it says not going to happen,
you know, so taking advantage of it now.
And then I found that the community,
especially the test capital community has been fucking phenomenal.
Just so welcoming, really helping me understand things.
Yeah. They're really great. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
It's rare you find a group of people.
Usually it's one or two shining individuals that are holding our hands through all this.
But man, there's communities trying to get us to do these things.
And not for them, for us.
What a weird thing.
Anyway, sorry.
You know, 90% of people are probably
out there pretty upset with life, and then you get the
10% who are, like, standing out because
they choose to smile. This whole community
is smiling, I swear.
And you raised some really, really good points,
man, about accessibility
specifically.
Like,
I've done the calculations myself in the past, you know, compared to other networks. about accessibility specifically.
I've done the calculations myself in the past,
compared to other networks,
like what it takes to start validating another chain and the cost is like multiple times higher,
so many times higher.
And as you said, especially with the current price action,
it's really cheap, really, really cheap
to start being a validator of a baker on Tezos right now.
And actually, with the next upgrade,
you might even be able to combine powers with others,
with the native multi-six wallets
and start baking with your friends,
you know, adding up the amount if you don't have it yourself solo
and have like a bakery.
One runs the infrastructure of the rest of the people
just putting the money with you.
And so, yeah, it's very flexible.
It's very accessible.
And as you said, it's really interesting as well to see what kind of initiatives
you can build around that when it comes to art as well.
We do have a few bakeries that are from the art side of the community,
like Block Bakery,
I think Anon Bakery, Rise Up, Object has a bakery now.
Taya is starting a bakery now.
So it's really, really, really interesting and cool to see,
you know, more artists getting into the tech side,
the validating side of Tezos,
because that's the whole point with the on-chain governance and the ability, you know, to actually be active into that,
not just posting on Exo,
but actually, you know, casting your votes and everything
and building a community of delegators under you
that you become their voices,
you become their voice in the governance process.
So great stuff, process so great stuff man great stuff really glad to hear that you you're going on mainnet so who's who's next who are you bringing
with you hey bro are you going to bring somebody with you you got somebody in mind you're going to
be like hey we should start this together like once you get yours going do you got somebody in mind, you're going to be like, hey, we should start this together. Like once you get yours going, do you have somebody in mind you're going to bring along?
Yeah, one of the big first big challenges is I'm actually doing this on my Mac.
So I'm running my command line on my Mac through Mac OS, all native, not on Linux.
And so I really wanted to work with the Tess Capital team to figure that out and get that working correctly
before I approach a bunch of artists
who I know are working on Apple's
and they're not going to want to set up some Linux shit.
So for me to be able to say,
here's step-by-step what you guys need to do.
And, you know, yeah, a lot of those upgrades,
the network upgrades you've been talking about,
we're already at the point where, you know,
we'll get you started with 600 TES.
600 TES is what you need. And then we need to get you staked a bunch of people staking on you, you know, so
it's already more accessible, you know, just a fun story. I hold events all over the U.S., usually
six to eight of them a year. A couple of years ago, we were having one down in Austin and this really kind of, I'll say a dev looking person
shows up to the party.
And I was just like, yo man, how's it going?
You know, being a little energetic, talking to him.
He's very shy.
I didn't want to be around people.
Come to find out he's a Solana delegator.
And he was, I hope he still is, richer than God.
This fucking guy had so much Solana.
It was a dumb amount. And I was like,
bro, how did you even, he started breaking down delegating to me. And at the time he told me the
number of Solana to start being a delegator. And it was just like out of reach. But that always
stayed in the back of my mind. And I asked him, I'm like, bro, how did you get the money to do
that? He's like, I started when Solana was a fucking joke. Solana was like two bucks a coin or something. Aha. Right. And so
that was the thing that stuck in my head. And I'm like, if I ever have the opportunity and I saw
one of the Tescapital guys post on Twitter and I was like, man, I've always wanted to be a baker,
but it's always just been a little too rich for my blood. They were like, we got you, bro.
And they brought me into the tribe and explained everything, and now we're great.
I love the Tez Capital guys.
They're amazing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I hope that story sticks with some artists and you're just like, hey, there's a way for me to make some income on this blockchain.
For Taya, it's great.
It's a good idea because it gives us access to predictable income.
Yeah, exactly.
So we can build up our treasury over time.
And it also gives people out there the means to support us.
Because admittedly, people like the idea of TIA, but
like, when it comes to like, okay, so how do I support you
guys is you know, it's, there's not, it gets a little bit tricky,
right? Because we're so decentralized. But if we if we
run our own Baker, this is probably what we're going to
do, we're probably going to do a fundraiser, you know, to raise the initial amount, maybe
in a few months, and then use that as sort of our starting point, right?
Like a nest egg.
And then over time, we'll start accruing.
Yeah, real money, you know, like, like a substantial
amount of money, right, that we can like, use for I mean, it's
up to Dow, right, ultimately, but, but you know, yeah, no,
it's all it's all good things. So yeah, I really like,
encourage like artists to get get to know your baker, you know,
and for the most part part they're very nice people
you know they're probably one of the more thoughtful people on the ecosystem right now
because they have to deal with all this complicated stuff right like that most people don't see so
so yeah yeah i love the baking community here
yeah yeah i love the baking community here
fun fact a lot of them are big collectors too i didn't know that until i got involved in the
community i was like oh bro that's you collect a bunch of shit yes sir they uphold the community
in so many different ways they they have a sense of responsibility i would say you know
and and they take it seriously which is like you know that's a rare trait you know even in real life so yeah hats off to them
okay ryan take it easy to knock jesus
why no but they do walk on water red i see your hand yeah yeah i had a question for paper buddha
here um it's interesting because we were talking about in yoshi's space a bit about bakers and I see your hand. Yeah, yeah. I had a question for Paper Buddha here.
It's interesting because we were talking about, in Yoshi's space, a bit about bakers and Skulls brought it up.
And, you know, he's also a baker now, too.
And I've been delegating to Electric Bakery for a while, and they don't collect none of my art. So if anybody wants to recommend some of their favorite bakers, I wouldn't mind just
supporting...
Zero.
Yeah.
And a non-bakery as well.
Zero is the best.
Okay.
I think I'm going to switch it up.
No more am I going to be electric? I'm going to
zero. Thank you, guys.
And Baking Benjamins.
Thank you. Yeah, Baking Benjamins zero thank you guys yep and thank you benjamin's thank you yeah bacon benjamin's is also i'll throw in one for him too uh there's a lot of good you know i don't want to single him out but but
yeah just because i know him zero for sure is great guy. He is everywhere helping. Everywhere.
That guy.
Yeah, he is the Zero, the hero.
Yeah, and so has been the case with Baking Benjamins as well.
Primate.
He has also done so much, especially for the baking community.
But as you said, so many good bakers.
We got Libertes.
We got like...
If I start, I can stop, honestly. But so many good bakers. We got Libertes, we got like, if I start, I can stop, honestly,
but so many good bakers.
For me, because there was a discussion
we had two weeks ago, Ryan, right?
About how to choose a baker.
For me, it always has been, you know,
first of all, how close they are to the community.
Like, are they reachable?
Can you contact them? Like, are they active in the community? You they reachable can you contact them like are they
active in the community you know for me that was one of the most important factors when i was
choosing a baker and obviously then okay you can check the fees the reliability and stuff but
like there are people you know that will getcesion, their ledger or another wallet, multi-asset wallet,
and they are not in the test community and they will find one random baker
from the suggested list and they will delegate or segue with them.
And then they will be like, okay, I have a question.
How do I ask? Who do I ask?
You know, it's important for me to have like a good,
an easy contact with your baker.
If they have a telegram channel or they are reachable on X and stuff like that.
And then you have the next level bakers, like you mentioned,
the zero and the zeros of the ecosystem that they are actually out there
reaching out to people.
Yeah, he digs so much more than he has to you know so yeah baking nubs is also
yeah one thing i've learned being a part of that community is almost every baker takes it very
seriously and calls it their business they actually have uh you know like a business a book
a business they're actually tracking everything they're making payouts they've got a list of clients um so those are the bakers you're looking for and so far like the majority
of bakers i've come across treat it like a business yeah they take it very seriously which
they should because they're holding your money right you want that yeah
that yeah
i completely screwed up guys i'm so sorry uh 41 minutes ago i was supposed to change the topic
back to vinyl records but i did not well chris left so oh that's that's right he was the one
who was into it that makes sense he missed uh he missed the part where we were saying good things about his job.
Oh, well.
Well, we are an hour and 42 minutes into this.
I do appreciate y'all joining us for all this.
This has been a great call.
You got some more things you want to chat about, Mr. Tonio?
No, I don't think so.
I think we covered a lot, and it's getting close to 1 a.m. over here., I don't think so. I think we covered a lot and it's getting close
to 1am over here.
So I'm getting more sleepy.
It's only got to be close to like
10pm where Retro's at.
So that's okay. We can go for a couple more hours, right?
Yeah. Let's do two more hours.
It goes to 11.
11. Okay, my bad. It goes to 11.
I just heard that line straight from you.
Wow.
Sorry.
This is Spinal Tap, the reference,
where he's got the speaker. This is a really special one.
Normal speakers go to 10.
This one, it goes to 11. Anyway, sorry.
I'm dating myself.
Might as well talk about my Nintendo again. Anyway, folks, I'm dating myself. Might as well talk about my Nintendo again.
Anyway, folks,
I think that's going to do it.
Why don't you start talking about Blockbuster
too while you're at it, Blangs?
I love Blockbuster.
And when Netflix used to come in the mail, you know?
Blockbuster's still around, aren't they?
There's one store left, one Blockbuster left.
Ah, man.
And Netflix, those
physicals, well, that's like with the Redbox.
You do realize if you
still have a Redbox near you, you can
kind of trick that thing into spitting out anything left
if nobody else has. I don't know why they would
still be out there. That thing went bankrupt
almost a year ago. But anyways,
we're not
here for that. I mean, nostalgia
is fun. I do miss donkey kong
on the nintendo because donkey kong on the switch is infuriating but uh yeah oh i would like to
mention i mean you know we briefly touched on it uh sugar match did make its way to etherlink but pikes arena has recently uh it's it's added etherlink uh
what's what's the word compatibility that's the word integrated it's integrated etherlink as well
and i believe battle tabs is back on you can play battle tabs in the discord i know they're working
on uh etherlink integration as well so we've got some great titles from the past that are coming back.
We've got some great titles moving forward.
I mean, I'm dying to play Reaper Actual.
I don't know about any of you, but
I need to shoot somebody.
What happened?
I've got a question about Reaper Actual.
Why did I see an OpenSea?
Is there something confusing there?
A different game or something?
No, they're promoting the game he's oh I see
they're jumping
on it are they yeah everybody is
they're trying to get in on it
yeah everybody is because it's big
it's a big deal man this is legit
this is not a this isn't like a
CryptoKitties
2.0 I promise you they're gonna
dance this time.
You know, like, no.
Have you seen the, I hate to switch topics,
but have you seen the Pudgy Penguins game?
No, I haven't.
Is it any good?
Just don't look at it.
See, and that's, that's unfortunately.
I sound like such a hater now,
but yeah, just don't look at it, honestly.
It's the number one downloaded app. I just said, don't look at it, wise just don't look at it honestly it's we're talking it's the number one downloaded app is it i just said don't look at it wise don't look at it sorry i'm giving you
reasons to look at it i'm sorry i'm sorry it's just uh i love veggie famous they're awesome
they're so fucking cute and it's great for kids i'm gonna have some bad dreams now i don't know
as long as they don't become like V friends, I don't care.
If they become like V friends,
I'm going to be very upset.
No, I,
the person,
the co-founder of Peju Penguins,
like his,
he knows his shtick.
He's pretty solid.
Marketing wise.
I don't know anything about,
about anything else, but he seems to have like a plan.
Cause every time he goes into a podcast and he just, he's like, I'm going to be doing this. I'm't know anything about anything else, but he seems to have like a plan. Because every time he goes into
a podcast and he just
is like, I'm going to be doing this. I'm going to be integrating this.
I'm going to be changing the game. So, game
is changing.
If he's saying game changing, man, he must be
using chat GPT.
Probably. But
he's very
passionate.
The passion is what matters.
And when these people do believe, like all of us,
you can read the passion when people have questions.
Katerina, are we going to actually get some conversation if we add to you?
We'll see.
Welcome, welcome back as you transition to the stage.
All right.
Let's see.
Can we speak now? Katerina welcome hello hello guess not okay now i see here i couldn't see here on the stage before
we tried folks we tried but thanks for joining us this whole show that's for sure well
Kryptonio is there anything else we should go over
or do you think maybe
no I think we can start wrapping up
here
you know
SteakTember as we call it
SteakTember
remember to steak
and it'll still be SteakTember I guess Steak Timber Remember to Steak And it'll still be Steak Timber
I guess Steaktober
I don't even know
That's tougher to say
Well that's going to do it
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