all right I think I'm up can you guys hear me clearly welcome welcome
let's wait for teo to come up as well and to share the link around
all right, I think you're up to you, can you hear me?
I'm doing good Kryptonia, how are you?
I'm good, I'm good as well
kind of a lie response, really
I've been sick all week, you know that
but spirits are doing good
right, right, right, my spirits are doing good
well, you know, I'm not like 100% recovered
but I definitely feel better than I did yesterday
and the day before that, I can
it's still a little scuffed, but it's
I see, I see, yeah, we'll
absolutely, and welcome everybody else
of course too, right, welcome everybody
Tuesday Tez Day with Tez comments
did Theo disconnect or did I disconnect, sorry
you guys can hear me, can you give me a thumbs up
so I know if it is me that
is being disconnected, yeah, so it's probably Theo
okay, I see him up in the speakers but
yeah, he's down to the listeners again
so probably some connections problem, let me
yeah, just sent me a message that he got ragged
I don't know if you guys have ever been speakers
on any of the spaces with an Android
they seem to have some sort of bags
they keep like disconnecting speakers
we had it in many spaces before
and they show up totally randomly
gotta do what you gotta do
as I, you know, I got a little
got a little excited and I was inviting people
I went to the chair at sleep
while the space was live, you know, and
yeah, it got overloaded or something
that's my current battle right now
if I, on my personal device
whether it's a tweet, whether it's a DM
I seem to just, I seem to just rug
I get the little blue loading bar
starts at the top, you know, and it just gets stuck
and I'm like, oh, well, there you go
but let's go for a stop this app now
okay, so then let me do the sharing
I've already posted it in some of the telegram groups
what you've been excited about this week
have you been following any news
I know you've been sick so you probably
let's see, now I've been pretty sick
a little moment ago actually
and there was a wallet SDK
let me see if I can get it pulled up here
Nomadic Labs, did they just release that?
right, they released their beacon SDK
so yeah, I saw that happen
just hit me right before I started
other than that, we have a lot of things
just had their event wrap up
their spring fever event is officially
officially wrapped up and finished
so yeah, we're just kind of
you and I call it like a recovery week
I would be interested to hear
people that have been to the
NYC events to see how their experience was
I don't know if there's anybody
I just see Lily here as well
so maybe we can get a little recap
of that spring fever event too
so yeah, there's a lot of cool stuff
that has just happened in Tezos
we have another event coming up
which is going to be more
kind of just a shed of light
and just all kinds of different
peoples in this community
that we never really talk about
because I've seen some requests
you said Andre requested to come up
maybe they were at the NFT events
we actually hosted our own three day
satellite event which is a complete success
agnostic, we're co-founders
of the listening room which is a
music media group and artist collective
full scale live and virtual event
production, distribution management
development and education
and always have been actually
really just wanted to learn
a little bit, slash a little bit more
about what's going on in the Tezos ecosystem
integrate what we're doing
so thank you all for just
we want to see what's going on
on our side we really want to just learn
but you all mentioned NFT NYC
I'm from Chicago, Andrews and Detroit
an exceptional week last week
share with you all about it
absolutely, please do, please do
only talked to one person
since they've gotten home
their story, it's just someone who attended was
three days was too long for them
yeah, raise their thumbs up, he knows
because yeah, as Juice was saying
we hosted our own satellite
parallel for three days as well
and one of the discussions we had
afterwards with the team debrief
was like, okay I think we can
all agree three days is kind of a
a lot of set up, a lot of breakdown
a lot of programming, a lot of
because we ran panels during the
first half of the show and then we switched
over to live entertainment for the second
so just being in constant coordination
event itself man, the job
that to people they still told me I was crazy
because it was very expensive to get out there
but the conference center itself
there were a bunch of projects there
because Juice and I were like
Cardano natives, that's just kind of where we
found our initial footing
there was only one other representation of Cardano
there, which was kind of funny
but the majority was all Matic
personally it kind of seemed like
a lot of them were almost doing the same thing
and that's what I kind of took
it is good to kind of be considered that
underdog, because at least
on Cardano, comparing Cardano to Ethereum
market cap, a lot less developers
so even though there is some competition
as these other market caps
so I was kind of grateful to see that
within our own little niche
but all in all man, a really positive
experience, they had some catered lunch
man, which is great, grabbing some fruit, some
sandwiches, they had this game
I never heard there before called Metal Core
I don't know if y'all are familiar with it
its almost like a mech FPS
type game, a little bit like
I don't know if y'all are gamers
but that was kind of cool, being able to go back and
test out an upcoming game
because I know a lot of people are super
excited about crypto gaming in
general, so that was just
kind of a fun experience as well
and I don't want to get stuck on that
because I actually am a huge gamer
I'm an admin of a competitive
gaming discord and I have been since
for quite some time and I'm sure
or obvious reasons to you as a gamer
not quite being up to par
in the way that most people think it is
however technology has recently changed
maybe things are changing
I'd be interested to hear more
Krypton, you can stop me if it's a tangent
quick with it, I'm sorry, because Theo
I'm excited that you actually have a competitive
gaming discord, I used to be a professional
counter-strike player, I played counter-strike
for probably like 16 years
straight in my adolescent youth
I've probably quit gaming for
to focus on my music career and running my label
gamer I want you to know that I'm
resonating with you there
because we want to make sure we don't have any trash games
that get pushed onto our audience
but what I think the positive
that a lot of these companies have
is that they are developing on either
being fucking incredible, not
having to create your own engine
almost like the source base SDK
you know, primary thing of counter-strike
more advanced and leap and
bounce on how to create a better game
compared to back in the day, if that makes sense
was released by Unity along with Tezos
so there is a Tezos SDK as well
you're right, you're right
I was sitting there going
this whole time, I'm like it's not Ubisoft
it's not Ubisoft, it's not Ubisoft
I think it makes it much easier for
but I think it helps them
with a lot of integrations
with the wallets and with the data
smart contracts and everything
they spent money on building
all those tools, you know
you got them ready from the official
sort of Unity, which is a good thing
are the two biggest engines, right?
and the reason why they're the biggest
some of the most popular games around
Unity Asset default packs
that new one that came out
that Tower of Fantasy or whatever
different games though, don't get me wrong
the process of game development
of what the connection is
really, right? That's always been
so that's why I'm like hit or miss
I'm back and forth on this topic right now
No, and that's a good topic too
I'll just speak real quick
from that Metalcore example
that we're just kind of leading off of
because I had a similar question as well
the way that they're incorporating
NFTs into their mechanics
as you progress through the game
as you build up your mech
you'll be able to mint that
and that'll almost be a save state
and that way you can either
maybe you just want to load it up at a friend's house
or maybe you want to completely sell it
so it almost creates that option
scratching the surface of future
something that really blew my mind just now
memory cards back via NFTs
signing into a digital game
hardware, your hard drive or something
unless they have some type of cloud service
am I on to something here
especially now with the NFTs
change as long as you progress
and everything is recorded
on the NFT and the metadata
there are some games I think
but we are still at a very
very early and experimental stage
as you said it's a great topic
to have blockchain integrated
gaming but I'm also curious
to see how it will be achieved
they already have successful models
I don't know why they would
see some games pop up and get adoption
and maybe they will be forced
I don't know, what are your thoughts?
royalties, I'm going to be very
quick because I want Andre and Intracy to go
I would think it would have to be royalties
because otherwise you're right, adding blockchain
only adds accountability to
a near flawless system that they
royalties are a positive for them but
they control, they have their own marketplaces
they control all the money
giving up on that and having
them being sold around on
even with the royalties, I don't
think it will make much sense for them
would make for gamers, like
when I was playing WoW, I would love
to have my weapons and my
armors and everything else in NFTs but
do it for example, you know
adopted because it will be really cool and really
maybe that's how they are eventually
forced to integrate them, I don't know
yeah, I'll kind of hop in with
an interesting perspective to that
that resonates within the
community is decentralization
that that is the hardest conversation
is how do you almost get centralized
because ultimately with how
this technology is running, how everything
one is going to be able to gatekeep
anything, you know what I'm saying
and just recently on Cardano
one of the biggest developers
they do a lot of the tooling and development on the
back end to empower the individual
distribute and part of that is
they just release a way for
anybody to spin up a marketplace
can create their own marketplace
and sell whatever they want
and I think that that's also
what we're going to ultimately see in the
the capability that we all have
to run our own shops, set
our own prices, do our own business
we don't have to go through other people
anymore, all the middlemen
in every industry almost get removed
because I'll just say I am
and say I'm a professional gamer
assets in every single game
I would want to host my own marketplace
while maintaining full control
so I won't need to go through a
because I'm going to be my own distributor
that's going to be the paradigm shift
to do good by your customer
and support your actual fan base
or they're going to learn how to do this
talk about emergence without talking about emergence
you talked about things wrapping up
and that was the first thing I talked about in my mind
I was here to talk about gaming
it's an interesting point of view on
gaming, I think everybody's kind of had it wrong
I think new industries take time to
mature, we've seen that with
DeFi, DeFi's a stepping stone
to RWAs and it's starting to pop out
you know, everybody has a
bunch of ideas, blockchains need to mature
every piece of tech kind of needs
to mature and I've started to use this a lot
like smartphones came out in 1994
but it wasn't until the iPhone in 2007
that it really made it go wide stream
and it's not just the best tech that wins
it's the most useful for people
and especially when that comes to gaming
you see these things and actually
about the differences between
where everybody was like just this
crypto, it was like another
everyone was like oh play to earn, metaverse
yada yada and everyone was so focused on the money aspect
but to be fair, the games sucked
thing where it's like oh okay well
we could earn a little bit of money
yada yada but the game was shit
so you need to focus 100%
on the game being fun and a monetary
aspect of it, it could be included
it could be like a DAO, like to talk about
emergence, I really do think there
could be a place to have like a guild
where the token that gets distributed
is the guild and adds new comics into
canon, Theo I mentioned that to you
but not about the political drama
about it but just as gaming
like I don't know if necessarily players
Andrew I really like a lot of what we said
but I don't necessarily think players
items and run their own marketplaces
in that sense, let's say you're playing
you played Counter Strike, I played Call of Duty
I never got used to Counter Strike
for some reason, it just didn't like
move the controls the right way in that sense
bless for me, bless for me
it's uh, but like let's say
you level up weapons and they find a way
oh you just shrugged, find a way
no no, I got a phone call
dammit, why can't you take these things from your computer
anyways, Elan must change that
so uh, you know like you level up your gun
I don't think anyone's going to rent out their gun
unless there's any sort of special powers associated
with it for example, depends on
the type of game, but you could for example
2023 Call of Duty World Championship
the same way that it's like the game used
football or jersey, I could see
that happening, I've actually really
wanted to build a Monopoly game where the
like the real estate, there are
and part of the revenue goes back to all the
from the rent goes back to all the
first and foremost, these games
need to be games with blockchain implemented
in them and I don't think decentralization
very far on the decentralization
spectrum of decentralized
decentralization maxi and I don't think
necessarily that it'll be like oh, there's no more
gatekeeping, there'll still be gatekeeping
imagine all of a sudden like, the next
Call of Duty comes out and they say, oh
well you know what, the tokens from the last game
aren't applicable here anymore, so
don't think humans are programmed for
real decentralization as we're all tribal
we all strive control, we can
it's just going to add more interoperability
think we have a very long way to go, but it really
could flip a switch considering
are working on blocking into
games after their Wall Street bets
in debacle and they raise more capital, so
that's me, I'm keen on it, I just think
that the industry needs to mature like a motherfucker
to the conversation, you go right ahead
I've been holding out what I want to say
into the conversation as well until everybody
else had a chance, so go ahead
Lily and then I'm going to jump in after
Yeah, I've been enjoying the talk
or game playing on the blockchain
and a half ago or however long it's been now
I did meet some people that were designing different
talked to them about the technology on
TESOs and that as compared
to building it on Ethereum
is a couple of ideas that I
have, I have no tech skills
whatsoever, but there's cool ideas that I have
on the blockchain I guess, but
sort of in the real world, I don't want to give away
the whole idea because I'm still working on trying
yeah, where it's the NFTs
but in the real world, you have an application
there's something physical you can do
physical you can get by doing it
through the gamification of the
know, it's just like there's so many possibilities
right now. I think it's going to be
the possibilities. I mean, what you can
do in the metaverse, what you can do in the real world, what you can do
say what you wanted. No, no
say what you wanted to say
because on that gamification
to bring up Chamber after you're finished
because it's in the way of that.
I agree and I think we, you know
gaming is such a big word too, it's
like art, you know, what are
different things, so many different
conversation we've been having
which I think is more AAA games
and your Call of Duty's which is
you know, which is why people think
guns right and assets and stuff
back to, and I have a very
like kind of based response on this whole
it does come down to money
and like Kryptonio said earlier
things that they've already built
and that's why they do them nowadays
and I don't know if people really
game economies when people
first started trying this stuff out
when they first started trying digital
for instance, this is going to be a
ever used the website gaiya.online?
World of Warcraft, RuneScape
these are also good examples too
have economies and they have
these economies fail every time
now we're talking about adding
crypto into these economies
someone might be someone's
actual money whether it's pennies or not
things can go inflationatory very quickly
especially when you're minting
is Lightbringer, it's gone now
Litecoin, they implemented
all of this stuff that we're talking about
it was run on chain, the assets
were NFTs, you could sell them
you could trade them, you could trade
everything we're talking about was in
this game, right? The economy
but on the other hand you did have
for all these games, right?
I do remember for example World of Warcraft
having black markets online
if you got caught you were banned
but the economies did exist
and then selling it to other accounts
I would say that there is the need
for a market, for an economy
on the implementation and the way they implement it
a slightly different implementation
that's what I was going to get into
and I was going to use the current comic book industry
as an example, who have just gotten into NFTs
a little bit ahead of gaming
just because gaming is waiting on technology
Marvel, what you're starting
to see happen is they're building their
I think we're going to see happen
it's almost like the same thing happened with
engines, right? There used to be an engine
for every game, every game used to have its own
everybody started using the same
one, now every game you play
is just the last of us, or Batman
City, depending on which one you played first
that's the game you'll play for the rest of your life
I lost my train of thought when Maverick threw his hand up
oh my god, it can't be that easy to be distracting
I gotta like keep track of it
I have so much stuff that I'm just so clear
about saying the elephant in the room
and it's my hands up that distracts you
right, it might be like oh god
who knows what this is gonna be
and then at the minute my train of thought's gone
oh my god, we're talking about gaming
oh yeah, engines and stuff like that
so eventually at some point they get too big
gaming platforms to build on their own
and too complicated and so they build on things like
off one way, then someone builds
infrastructure for it and it gets
too complicated to launch your own
gaming engine, then you use the other
gaming engine that kind of centralizes
not to agree but with a lot better features and whatnot
and the same thing's kind of happening with
blockchains, except it's almost
a little bit the opposite
it's different I would say, maybe not the opposite
people launch their own blockchains
and then people, well there was Ethereum
and people did modifications to
Ethereum, launched their own blockchains, then different
blockchains separate from Ethereum
and then now as people are
all this code is open source
the technology eventually becomes
a commodity, where it doesn't matter
necessarily the network that's on it, if you already
have your own network of users or customers
or whatever, so Amazon's building its own
blockchain, Hyperledger Fabric has their own blockchain
blockchain for their NFTs
you're going to see niche blockchains
pop up left, right and center in my
opinion because a lot of the ecosystem
use cases where they can control
that, not necessarily the chain but the user
experience, so that's kind of
yeah, that's exactly right
you brought me back, you brought me back
thank you, I went a little
building their own blockchains but I remember
they're going to, it's going to be
centralized into such a way that
are really expecting or maybe
extremely centralized and they're not
going to use this technology unless
the players, unfortunately that's just
the nature of how things work
and that's basically what
I'm just kind of beating around the bush
I mean that's just what I'm
getting at to the heart of is
they're only going to use this technology
see that being implemented
none of the software itself
blockchain though, like a movie
actually are a good way to
bring discs back if that makes
to put that comparison in your head
blockchains, I don't think will replace gaming engines
so with a movie, right now
you can get a digital copy but you can't sell it
you can't resell it, it's like illegal
three uses and then it explodes
even though you paid full price for it
and the same is true for digital
or you get banned, your account
gets locked or banned or something, you just lose
access to everything for no reason
gets wiped, you just lose
your digital copies and they're gone
can provide an additional
system to these companies
that they don't have before
that won't hurt them in any way, it'll just add
to them, so that's one thing
Completely agree, I don't
necessarily agree that they'll use it only to their benefit
treating your customers well in their benefit as well
especially in this economy
ownership, or lack of ownership
depending on how you look at it
with great power, this has
but with great power comes great responsibility
and it can either be used for good
or used for bad, and I'm sure there will
be platforms that use it for bad
and that also means that there will be platforms that use it
for good, and it's this constant struggle in
life between good and evil
the bullet and the bulletproof vest
yada yada et cetera, if you get that point
so that's one thing, I'm going to say one last thing
and go, sorry for just kind of
necessarily believe in the metaverse
anybody who's played a video game has had metaverses
has this metaverse, and World of Warcraft
and Starcraft have their own
worlds, and so the metaverse is
really just the blockchain space of trying to
or just bring currency value
to a metaverse, but it's not
an actual metaverse like Ready Player One
and it was like a guild that can add new worlds
and interconnect, and maybe
sure, but the metaverse as we
see it today is clunky, it's shit
and Facebook's lost like what
30 billion dollars trying to build
something that works, and
you think some platform that raised a couple
million dollars is going to go do it?
I'm not saying that young startups
won't get it done, don't get me wrong, but
again, they're only focused on the money
they're not focused on the game, so
we've had metaverses, just build a better
game and use it for good, you'll
find your players and it'll move forward, so
for me a metaverse is just an overhyped
just kind of sucks, so maybe
it's just the internet from
Futurama, Alex, that's the best
way to think about it, and I agree
we'll never get there, I don't think we'll
get there in a full decentralized
I think it'll be three big
companies who get together
and own everything else, just like
the way the internet is right now
yeah, anyways, thanks guys
I'll see y'all later, and
what a great conversation, Kryptonio
Andre, did you say it's been
a minute, you know, we kind of
you put me on a tangent, love gaming
love talking about this stuff
what are you guys' thoughts?
I might let Andrew kind of
take this one, again, I'm all ears
right now, to be honest, I'm literally
Andrew and I, we're strong
that's RC the wizard right there
Andrew's experience in gaming
and being a professional gamer
his insights, I learn a lot
from Andrew every day, my damn self
but again, we're kind of here
just listening and getting
immerse ourselves within the
Tesla's community as well
to see what you guys got going on
I'm just here listening and
want to learn as much as I possibly can
about what you all have going on
but again, I'll definitely raise my
hand if I have any feedback or
just some thoughts that I want to add
to the conversation without a doubt
we kind of already feel like
I feel like we all can relate here
with just the Twitter algorithm
it is to fall into your own echo chambers
and echo bubbles and stuff
so it truly is just refreshing
even just a different perspective
like you said, I appreciate this conversation
and I think it was either
speaker, I apologize if I mixed you up
I don't really know you will
that yet, or well, that yet
we'll introduce each other real good
but the one thing that popped
in my mind was mentioning the guns
and that is such a good perspective
because they already have
this type of stuff, right? But it would
be cool and I'll just throw this free alpha out
I know there's a bunch of amazing listeners
in the chat, shout out you all
I am a player and I do some
ace the round, you know what I'm saying
or maybe I have some crazy 1v4
time, you know, some crazy shit
either mint that proof of moment
or maybe collect the skin
that interaction, you know
what I'm saying? So maybe it's
right, wouldn't that be dope?
game was it because it was a well known game
oh god, which one was it? I'll look for it
while you were playing the game you could
or some stuff like that, they
were minted as achievements
the name right now, I will look into it
that has collectible value as well
right, I mean, that brings
somebody or, you know, Tom Brady
throwing the crazy Hail Mary
you know what I'm saying, like, those are
things that fans can attach value
speculative, like, you know that
game winning kick or whatever it was has
to be worth something, you know, it's important
for me, I don't know, I'm
what exactly blockchain will solve
for the gaming industry, you know
Does it help the companies? I mean, the companies
especially the big ones, right
now are doing pretty well
like they are with the web tool and everything
and owning the whole marketplace, I think
it would be more beneficial
for the gamers, for the players
that's why I said before that
with new games coming out
but of course they require
to be fun games, first of all
first and foremost, right
start seeing the benefits
of owning your assets, being
marketplaces and do all those
maybe the big gaming companies
that if it is ever created
then buy into that, you know
because otherwise I really
NFTs to their games, because
it's only the players that are benefiting
I have a good real life example
and then I want to hear about Chainborn
Cryptonia, I didn't forget about that
but I have a real good example
kind of a gamer, so you might
remember this game, do you remember
is the all encompassing LEGO
that has ever been a Lego
Family Guy, anything you can
think of has its own world in
you play this game is you
go out, you buy the real life
Legos come with this, the
game itself comes with a Lego board
that plugs into your Playstation
and you go out and you buy the Legos
them on this board and then that
you bought that is a real life
collectible, you put it on
this board and it imports
I have to convince anybody
that Legos is the most successful toy brand
games, the Lego movies, some of the most
in a world where that game
That's just a hard ask in my opinion.
I don't think the humanity
for quite an experience like that.
Chainborn. I just wanted to add
that when Lily talked about
anything to do with the physical
world, I found it interesting
the already existing NFTs
with all the FPFP collections
You can actually summon it and make it a
pets with XTZ for example.
There are some aspects of
luck and also some attributes
like health and strength and stuff like that.
they added like you can also
buy extra and at least like
armor and potions and stuff
like that to use during the battle.
get attached to your NFT, to your
you could power up your PFP
which has nothing to do with the game
powered up OTES for example.
is an interesting aspect of
wanted to say two things.
I hope you're feeling better today Theo
because I forgot to say that earlier.
And then the other thing was
okay, if the people aren't ready yet
or should we even attempt to?
there's a whole generation who grew up
and at the same time Lego Dimensions
was out, we had another one from Disney
Infinity, I think it was called
This was very popular amongst
why doesn't this stuff exist?
This was the coolest crap ever
when I was a kid. Where is it?
And that generation will be the one
the impact we're talking about right now.
For example, my little brother who is
like Lego Dimensions, like
metaverse is going online
and that's just their life
so much because we grew up
with the old crude World of Warcraft MMOs.
and we still see the potential
they breathe it, they eat it
You know why I didn't grow up
But I still see the potential.
you're talking about World of Warcraft
but I think the people my age,
just so you all know I'm in my 50s,
ten years younger than me,
those people, they're not
necessarily so much into the World of Warcraft
type of games, a few are,
candy crush and those word
that you can download on the
Play Store and stuff like that
can come in all different kinds of forms
Oh yeah, speaking of, your
generation, don't act like you're not a gamer
Dungeons and Dragons right there.
I never played those games.
Galaxy and that was really because I was babysitting
you know, that's all they wanted to do
at some point but we never had
my kids really didn't even have
that stuff growing up either
just because I wouldn't let them, my son has it all.
He doesn't have those boxes,
Xboxes and all those things.
He doesn't have that. He's 22.
But he plays them all online.
So that's a different way of doing it.
they're all about all of those
games that you guys were talking about.
They are all about them. And then the younger ones
that are maybe 10 and younger, you're
right. They have, I don't know what they, always want
these gift cards. I don't even remember what they're
called but they're gift cards for some kind of gaming
thing that they do online and they
ask for them for every birthday,
every Christmas, anything. They want those.
also important to note that
part of the gaming industry right now and
the revenue of the industry
has gone to the mobile games
now, right? With all those
chunk of the gaming industry is now on
that might want to introduce
definitely have to look at the
mobile gaming as well. Like they
have to release apps, they have to
get on the PlaySource and everything
and to kind of, you know, mimic
the models that already exist
of the games that has started
first all started like web games
they shouldn't neglect the mobile aspect
it down to a science. People are paying out the
nose to play those games. I mean,
I can't play them because if I do, I get
addicted to them. I stay away from them.
Don't go on those things. But I know
somebody was telling me that they spend over $150
Candy Crush. I don't know how they spend that much
on Candy Crush, but they spend it.
see how much money is spent on
mobile games. There are people spending
thousands on a mobile game.
It's crazy, it's crazy. I've
played a few games myself, but
people spend money to buy
I couldn't believe it at first,
but yeah, it's crazy how much money is spent
on those games. By the way,
talking about mobile games,
one game, for example, that I am excited
it's going to be released and how it's going to be
the gameplay and everything
speaks at work. They have
been building for quite a long time
and it looked like Clash of Clans
and all those mobile games that
had a lot of adoption. They are
integration, but they are focused
so much on the game itself
really excited about that one as well.
If anyone is interested, you can check it out.
You are getting a little bit
rugged, Kryptonio. I don't know if it's just me
if anybody else can hear it. But we are
getting towards the end of the space anyway.
But I want to give H their time to shine
because they are up. They have had their hand up
and they want to add to the conversation. So welcome, H.
my first time joining the space. So
thank you for having me up.
I joined just as the conversation
metaverse games. I think somebody
mentioned Ready Player One and
or that type of extent would really
very far off. But I think
one thing that we have at the moment is
as much as people joke about it,
you will see videos on Twitter where it's like
dressed as Goku, fighting
somebody dressed as Rick from Rick & Morty
that I think really intrigues
people because you don't necessarily
of those shows or those characters
And I agree, I'm not sure
who said it, sorry, but someone mentioned that
it is really about playing
the game first and then the Web3
Web3 and people trying to create
games in Web3, they have to
something else to the table
Xbox and PlayStation and maybe
bring because there's nothing really stopping
Fortnite from turning these
skins into NFTs because if for example
right now I wanted to buy
the first season of Fortnite
about where we are first season,
I have to pay for somebody else's
account and I buy the whole
account. Whereas with an NFT
there's nothing stopping that person
developers have to show why with an NFT
it would be best rather than just
like for example on RuneScape
how you can trade with your friends.
So yeah, I think it is all just about
showing the importance of Web3
why NFTs are the way to go
and if you can show those fundamentals
as being stronger than just
I think you attract those customers
and that's what they want. But yeah, I would love
a game like really with PlayerOne
I think the attraction, the value
there would be insane but we're just so far off here.
Yeah, you've pretty much highlighted
I think the space, yeah, we're just not there
but we're slowly getting there.
We're slowly getting there.
It's hard to convince a company
already makes millions of dollars a year to change
reason for them to do it unless you're telling them
that they might make more
millions of dollars a year.
option that would outweigh
the mobile gaming market. Oh my god.
I've actually been really
whatever it is we develop.
I guess it really is about the game itself
if you want to make a very successful
brainwashing these people into
I don't think we're quite there yet
I don't want to say scammy is not
the word so I guess I'll just go with cynical
companies that currently already exist
reason and they're successful for a reason.
I was over here laughing but it can be.
Very scammy and people do get addicted
to those games pretty darn quickly.
Maybe we're in the wrong business Theo.
We gotta be a little more
and unfortunately marketing
be aware of that and it's not a
good thing. It's not a bad thing.
I completely agree with you.
It's exactly what you've said where
the way that it's marketed will make
necessarily see it happening anytime soon
the hand of these bigger companies
because like you said they're in the money making
business so for them it's like well
if this is what people want
It's just so difficult to tap into
markets that have been around for so long
and just change the status quo
a completely different market itself.
Even the whole Candy Crush stuff
it's like you said I don't know how
people spend that much money on that game but
once you get addicted it's just
hard to turn around and stop.
Right because it goes beyond
mobile games specifically go
beyond this and to the same
degree that the music industry is at right now
about what people want because
they can manufacture that themselves
You know it doesn't matter what we
want as people who listen to
sure that the next song that they want to be
a banger will be a banger.
They'll make sure Justin Bieber
is playing at your local supermarket
mobile markets man. It don't matter
what the people want you'll want it after
They just manufacture that stuff right up.
a little tiny bit drunk on his
I'm super based, yeah. Being sick
put me in I guess a darker
spot than my usual hopeful self.
I see my connection acting weird but
let me just jump in. Andre
I posted in the comments below
because Eve Online the game I was talking
about before about the kill certificates
although I'm trying maybe it's my connection
but yeah just a parenthesis.
Yeah I remember that as soon as you said
Eve Online yeah I remember seeing an article about that.
I mean I think Twitter is just acting
really really buggy today. I know it was all
messed up last night so it's probably just
Thank you for the space man.
I'm happy for the new connections. I'm going to try
to just keep tapping into more of these Tezo
listening down there and anyone up here
please follow me back. Please drop me
a follow. I really just want to
learn more about the community.
Learn more about the individuals in here.
the conversation on games.
primarily is music industry.
any musicians, any artists, anyone
making music on this chain
please drop me a DM, drop me a
tweet, something just pointing me in that direction
because I would really love to just
connect with the music side
as well as the art side because I know y'all are
known for that incredible art. I've been going through
a lot of your PFPs and just seeing the art
but I'm looking for the music man. I'm looking
for the music. If anyone can point me in that
right direction, I would greatly appreciate that.
If you have recommendations, go ahead.
I was going to say DNS. We have a
Eastern Standard Time which is about an hour
I guess. I don't know what time it is.
If you want to drop by there
we can put some links in the
comments and stuff. It's in anything chat so
come on by if you want. I have
to go right now, Theo, to get ready for that though
but it was a great conversation. Thanks for
Bye, Lily. Thank you for coming.
Yeah, there's a lot of resources
I can give you. For music specifically
a pretty cool crew that are going around right now.
That'll at least give you a lot of
the names to start looking
into and following around.
actually, I guess it's not
music scene here on Tezos.
You'll see that once you go
a bunch here with Tezos Commons. We do this one
every Tuesday at 6 pm UTC.
What exact time is the Blockchain Evolve show?
It doesn't have a fixed time. It's usually
Sometimes it happens on Fridays.
Usually it is on Fridays.
That has a more technical
protocol itself and DeFi and stuff like that.
general space host here on Tezos.
nowadays. I also do spaces
and we do that every Saturday
Those are just community calls like this one
right here. A lot of different people
you can connect to as well.
And then yes, speaking of none
were to download that app
there is an event section
track of all Tezos spaces,
I try to keep track of all that
in this one section of the app
and provide links, details
and everything you need as well.
Check that out. If you're really serious
about getting into Tezos, I gave you a follow back.
Yeah, we'd love to have you guys.
This was an awesome conversation today.
No, it is. Yeah, I try to
follow as many of those people.
I was already following DNS, so that's actually
really cool. We had a DN open.
Did you say Tezos Hip-Hop?
I want to make sure I get them one last follow too.
Thanks, bro. Yeah, I'm going to definitely follow through with those.
Thanks for that follow back. We'll be in touch.
And just like a little bit, if you want to tap into us,
music space every Wednesday at
So tomorrow, two hours from now,
is where we hold our music space.
It's literally just showcasing artists from the
community. We have a big Discord.
People submit their tracks in there. We have a
big queue. We play everyone's submissions.
We bring the artists up on stage.
They tell us a little bit about the track.
Maybe the story that went into about it.
Or even just elaborate on themselves as an artist.
So, man, if you want to tap into our
music space too, you're more than welcome.
Submit some music. Introduce yourself to our
community. We just love music, man.
Music is universal, man. It's just
too silly that we got these boundaries
of blockchain separating us.
And, you know, we happen to
be with Tezos Commons right now.
And I happened, you know, a lot of these
different things we talked about
None is planning on opening up to
is the way. It's the future.
I think we touched on it a little bit
earlier today, right? When we talked about
the internet. How the internet used to be.
Remember back in the day, there's like
or you didn't. And then eventually
And now we just have, like, the internet.
So, we might see something
similar happen in the future with these
blockchains. Or at least with
a lot of the applications.
Because in the end, it's not about
It is somewhat a little bit.
But for the most part, it's about the applications.
It's about the experiences
Things isn't a great word. But,
yeah, you know. You got it.
So, we'll do that all in the future.
We're getting there. We see it more
and more every day. We see it more and more
every day. With these layer 2s.
With these bridge blockchains
that are trying to bridge all these
different things. Oh, yeah.
again, I posted it in the comments.
I don't know why it doesn't let me
in Twitter. But, yeah, I posted
is interested to find out more
Awesome. Thank you, Kryptonio.
that should be it. We'll wrap it up.
Thank you, everybody, for coming out.
This has been awesome. We talked about gaming.
this Tuesday Tez Day one. It's not
typically a community call.
use our hour to interview different
people in the community and give them
get to know them experience
growing up, how they get into the
passions that they're into long before they
even got into blockchain.
And, yeah, we like to just cover it all, get to know
And every once in a while, though,
And we like talking to everybody else.
So definitely check it out. Check it out
next week. I believe we'll have an
interview going next week and that should be awesome.
want to just come out and hang out with the community,
there's a bunch of different community calls
that happen all throughout the week.
the other community calls that I do.
we are the Web3 community.
We're all in it together, no matter what
chain you're on. We're all facing
that same regulation together.
We're all facing the same governments together.
All the same corporations together.
So we're in this together.
And, yeah, hope to see you guys soon.
Thank you, Theo. Thank you, Tezos Commons.
Absolutely, guys. Take care,
all. Have a nice day or night.