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Tuesday ✨️ Tezday I Episode 37
Recorded: June 27, 2023 Duration: 1:08:40Space Recording
Full Transcription
Let's give those invitations.
Let's let me know if you got the invite, you as well.
I don't know why, but I feel like Twitter is a little bit glitchy today.
Nothing out of the usual, of course, but yeah.
And let's see, Beats has dropped.
All right, now, I see you up in the speakers now, Beats.
Can you hear me?
Can you hear me?
Beats, what about you, man?
Can you hear me?
All right, he sent me a message.
He said he will rejoin.
CryptoWolf also gave me the thumbs up.
So let's see what's going on here with Tutor again.
All right, now I see the request.
Okay, Theo and Beats, I see you both on the speakers.
I don't know if the space is glitched or what.
Let me just...
All right.
Hello, hello.
All right, I think we're good now, Theo.
And let's wait for Beats to see if he's getting it as well.
Welcome, welcome, everybody.
Hey, Kryptonio.
And yeah, welcome, everybody.
Yeah, it appears we're having a little bit of a buggy space,
but we've had some Twitter updates over the last couple of weeks.
So it's been infected, unfortunately.
Theo, tell me, do you see Beats as a speaker or in the audience?
Because I see him as a speaker.
Yeah, I see him as a speaker.
But if he got the...
So what happened for a second?
If he saw it, request a speak...
Like, it bugged me out when I saw it, too.
Sometimes you can come into the space without requesting
and just, like, come to the speaker panel.
And I think that's what happened, and it bugged his account.
It did it to me, too.
Yeah, might be.
He sent me a message now.
He's going to just restart his phone for a minute.
But in the meantime, I can go on and pin some tweets
about Texas Commons, you know, about our programs,
immune rewards programs, and so on.
And during the space, I will be pinning all about here and now
and the Antidote Festival that we will be discussing.
So, yeah.
Let's start with the rewards that came out for May,
the nominations for June are still open for a few more days.
We also get the community DAO that we launched.
So that's good as well.
Let's put it up there.
Okay.
I see him.
Bits sent a request, so I don't invite you.
Maybe that's what bugged you before,
if you're listening.
Well, yeah.
While Bits gets settled, yeah.
If anybody has questions about the Community Rewards Program
or has any questions for Tezos Commons in general,
feel free to stick around until after the interview.
And, yeah, we'll take any questions about the Community Rewards Program
and stuff, so, yeah, just let us know and hang out in the meantime
because we're going to be talking to Bits,
who is absolutely amazing.
I can't wait to go on a rant about how amazing Bits is.
100%.
Okay.
I accepted the request.
I see him up in the speakers again.
Hey.
It's working.
All right.
Cool.
How are you doing?
Welcome, man.
Welcome.
How's my audio?
Is it all right?
Yeah, I think it's pretty clear.
Okay.
If it's not, let me know.
I can change my headset.
Oh, you sound beautiful.
You sound beautiful.
And, yeah, welcome.
We were just telling people how, I mean,
you're a very amazing artist in this space.
Like, very amazing, very underappreciated, right?
Not talked about quite a bit as much as,
at least I think, you should be talked about.
So, welcome to the space.
Yeah, introduce yourself.
Tell us a little bit about yourself.
Yeah, cool.
That's nice of you.
So, I feel like I do, I fly under the radar a fair bit,
but that's kind of okay with me for the most part.
Yeah, so, yeah, my name is Bits.
It's my last name, so it's, yeah, I've been called that most of my life.
It's not a strange, anonymous kind of account.
I'm pretty, pretty open.
Yeah, I'm a filmmaker, immersive director.
I've been at it for a fair bit, and I, for the last couple of years,
I've mostly been creating immersive experiences,
virtual experiences, and been on Tezos for about two years,
and started Here and Now, which is basically, you know,
a kind of immersive art experience where we create interactive kind of journeys,
experiences in WebGL, and we work with artists,
and we, yeah, we basically create worlds and experiences for artists,
and then we either sell their art or we don't.
Some experiences are just experiences, and others are more, yeah, art-based.
And then we also do these interactive mincing experiences,
which we've done, which we just released on FX Ash, well, in February,
and that went really well, and we're, basically, those experiences,
you, your journey inside the experience depicts the traits of your token,
and then that mints your token in real time on FX Ash.
But we can get more into, like, the specifics of that,
but that's kind of a general, very, very short, brief kind of, you know,
review of what we've been doing on Tezos.
So, absolutely, and I definitely, I cannot wait to dive into each different thing
that you've done.
Man, I was going through Here and Now just before the space,
and, like, it's an absolute acid trip every single time.
So, I definitely appreciate that.
And so, what made you, we'll start from the beginning,
what made you want to focus on experiences,
as opposed to, say, like, PFPs or, you know, any other avenue?
What made you really center around experience?
Yeah, it's just, it's just always what I've been interested in.
I come from, you know, a really strong kind of background of experimenting
with, I suppose, technology and principles of theatre.
And then I've been a filmmaker for years,
so I kind of mix a lot of things together
and have done, have just always done that.
Like, I've always, I've just always enjoyed being sort of on the cusp
of pushing things a little bit.
Um, and, and that's, it's just what, what I enjoy the most.
So, for me, it just makes sense, um, to, to kind of put all those experiences
together and, and, and just keep, yeah, keep pushing myself.
Um, I think that's something that you'll, you'll notice
that I never do the same thing twice, which is, which is maybe, you know,
maybe like terrible business, but, but I get, I get bored quickly
and, and I like to, yeah, I like to do things, you know,
three month kind of stretches, a project every three months
or every four months, and then, you know, just keep pushing
a concept further and further.
And, and I think you'll see that, you know, if we went through
what we've done, um, with each experience, you'll, you'll notice
that each one has been a sort of evolution and growth
from the, from the past one.
And, um, and now they, they get, now they get into the point
where there might be a little bit too big for my shoes
where I'm like, oh crap, now I need a lot of people
to help me make these things where, you know, the first one
I made was just by myself.
Um, but, but that's a good thing.
You know, that's a good thing to, to keep growing and, and, and pushing.
Um, but yeah, so, so basically, um, you know, that's kind of like
why I do it, I suppose.
And, and I don't think, I don't think because it's a blockchain,
I don't think that would, that would change my perspective
on, on how to approach the blockchain.
It's just, you know, it's just what I do.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And, you know, speaking of, so, what made you, um,
choose Tezos as your living?
Um, your sound is breaking, I think.
But, uh, if I got the question right, it's, uh, why did you,
how did you come to choose Tezos?
Is that right, Theo?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, how did it, how did it come to be?
Um, I feel like I've got, like, alternative timeline,
alternative versions in my head.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's been so long.
It feels like it's been so long that, that, that, that, that I forget how I,
how I came into the space.
But, um, it was, how did it happen?
I, I was on, yeah, that's right.
Okay.
Was it a friend or something that on boarded you?
Oh, it's funny.
Were you into NFTs before, Tezos?
Ah, well, okay.
So, so, yeah, I don't think I've told this story so much, but, um,
I share an office with a good friend of mine.
Um, and it's in a shared space in Melbourne.
It's where I live.
And, um, he was sitting opposite me.
This is 2000 and I don't know, 18, perhaps 2017.
And, you know, he was, he's a VR artist.
We've worked together a little bit.
Um, he just joined our space as an artist in residence and he was like, yeah, and he's
really, really talented, creating these sculptures and stuff and beautiful, beautiful work.
Um, and then one day he comes up to me, he's like, like he's sitting in front of his desk
and he's just opposite me.
And he just sort of like, like screamed and like, it's just a sort of celebration of, of,
of this moment.
And we're like, what's, what, what's wrong, man?
Like what happened?
And he's like, I just sold a piece of art, uh, for like 200 bucks.
And we're like, uh, okay.
And then he starts to tell us about, you know, NFTs and stuff.
And I just thought he was crazy to be honest.
I was like, yeah, okay, whatever.
I never paid attention to him.
Um, and then he started doing really, really well.
I mean, like, I mean, like really, really well, you know, like those OG kind of drops on
Nifty well, and, um, I mean, you, you guys probably might know his name.
His name's the giant Swan and he, he's done really well in the space.
And, and, and I was like, just watching him kind of like on this crazy journey, um, from
going from, you know, being an artist in residence in our space to being like this hugely successful
NFT artist.
So that was like the first time I ever heard of NFTs.
The first time I was like, okay, what is this?
I honestly, I just.
That was like, that was like two years ago or three?
That was like 2018.
Uh, yeah.
Four, five, five years ago.
Oh, very early on.
Yeah.
Like he was, he's like, you know, the giant Swan is considered up there as, you know, like
OG, OGs, you know, he's, he's, uh, he does.
Yeah.
He's, he's, he's, you know, he tells me these crazy stories of like how him and a bunch of
people got together and they were like, they're the ones who kind of decided on provenance,
not provenance, sorry, uh, royalties.
Like they were like, but like 20 of them all got together and were like, let, let's like
make royalties a thing, you know, like, and he's telling me all these crazy stories.
Yeah.
Um, and then, uh, you know, like he was doing his thing and I was doing, I was making VR
experiences and I was having great success with those, you know, I was going to some
of the world's biggest festivals, you know, premieres and Venice and, you know, Toronto
film festival and Venice film festival and stuff.
And I was doing really well in the VR space.
Um, and, um, and also I was doing well with, with a film concept that I was pushing called
live films, which is, which is a novel approach to making films.
Um, and something that I'm known for outside of crypto where, you know, I make these films
that are live and shot in real time and you can only watch them live and they look like
films, but you can only see them in that moment.
And, you know, I was touring, doing a bunch of festivals around the world and then COVID
hit and I had all these things that were going to pan out, you know, um, all these projects
that were going to be, um, you know, at festivals and it was going to, it was shaping up to be
the biggest year of my career.
Um, and, and then COVID hit and basically everything just stopped and I was, I was left with nothing
like, you know, the whole year of kind of me thinking how I could survive and support
my family and stuff was just out the window.
Cause you know, that's how I make my money and, uh, yeah, just left stranded and I was
looking for ways to kind of, you know, basically take these ideas and, and, and put them more
virtual and, um, and then someone had the idea in my team, uh, or, uh, uh, producer of
mine, why don't we try to drop it as an NFT?
So, so this film we were making, uh, we dropped it on Rarible and, and it, and it got like instant
support, um, you know, made a couple thousand dollars or something, which we were able to
pay everyone a little bit.
And, um, and that did, and that's really just sort of shook me a little bit.
So we, um, so we basically, yeah, we basically, um, started, oh, I started looking into blockchains
and then found Hicketnook and, um, and the rest is history really.
Yeah.
And Hicketnook, uh, I think Hicketnook was behind, uh, so many of the artists that we have on Tezos.
Like it was, uh, while it was super basing and minimal, you know, uh, it attracted so
much, uh, so many artists early on just for the vibes.
Um, and also it's crazy how COVID, uh, the lockdowns and everything, um, got, gave the
time to some, and the opportunity to so many people to actually look into, uh, into the
blockchain world and crypto and NFTs and everything.
I myself also got into crypto because of the lockdowns because suddenly I found some
time on my hands, you know, but, um, so one of the biggest thing you're doing is the here
and now experiences, right?
So tell us a little bit about that.
Um, and what season are you right now?
Um, what, what's the thinking, uh, behind the experiences?
Like what is the goal there?
And yeah, talk to us about them.
Yeah.
I feel like it's, it's a constant evolving, um, thing with here and now, um, you know,
if at, at the very kind of to, to put it simply, we here and now creates events.
I think that's kind of what we do, um, and what we've kind of evolved to, to, to do.
Um, but really, I suppose it's, we create, we create experiences and events and, and we
work with artists to, um, to kind of realize these worlds and, um, but at the same time,
you know, I think we do do things a bit different.
Um, um, I'm not necessarily driven by, uh, how do I say, um, by just sales, I suppose.
Right.
Um, if, if, if I was, I think I'd just repeat the same thing over and over again.
So, so I think that's also a bit of the Hickett Nook spirit in that, you know, we're like,
I'm, I'm always driven by the experimentation of it and, um, hopefully that does well enough
to, to support here and now for, for that, you know, next couple of months that that's
always kind of been the model.
Um, but yeah, we, we, you know, I think it's sort of evolving more and more, more and more
into something of bringing people together.
And that's something that we've, we've always done really well.
And I think that's what really connects with the community is every three or four months
we have these big events and a bunch of people come together.
It's really positive.
Um, there's a lot of great art.
People get to collect great art and they also get to be surprised by, you know, interactive
experience.
And, and I think that's, that's really positive for the space.
It's, it's, it's something the space doesn't, doesn't really have and needs more of is these
big moments where people can come together.
And, you know, if I think about all these IRL events, right, like, you know, NFT, you know,
Art Basel or NFT Europe, you know, these events are amazing.
They're great.
But, but the problem with them is that it serves a very small percentage of our community,
like a very small percentage.
I haven't been able to attend one.
I can't afford it.
I just can't afford to fly to Europe or America to go to an event.
Um, and, and we are living in a virtual space with NFTs.
Like there's no doubt about it.
Right.
And we should always have these IRL events.
That's super important.
You should have, you should always have a local connection to your community, um, in the city
you live in, I think.
But, um, but these, these events where we can come together and celebrate a really fun view
between and, and I think, although here and now we, we like to think that we really push
innovation and experimentation, I think what connects most with people is these, it's these
kind of coming together of sorts, you know, um, to, to, to experience the same thing together,
to talk about it.
And, um, yeah.
And, and to, and to feel like they're part of something that is, that isn't just, you
know, like looking at art on Twitter or looking at art on a platform.
And I, uh, yeah, I feel like that's kind of the, the, where the magic for us lies.
Yeah.
And getting back to what you said, I totally agree that I myself saw a lot of evolution,
uh, from one here and now event to, or season, may I say to the next one.
Like my first interaction I remember was with, I think it was number two, the escape room.
Which one was it?
Yeah.
Wow.
Was it number two?
Yeah.
So I, I remember trying it out and kind of have my mind blown because you could actually,
you know, play into, uh, an escape room and at the same time, not only finding clues,
but you were finding NFTs as clues and some NFT pieces.
I remember collecting a threesome piece, uh, in that one.
Edition three.
Yeah.
That was edition three.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
And, uh, I was blown away, uh, of how innovative it was at that time because there was nothing
like it.
And then later on, I remember I tried, was it number four or five where, you know, where
you had the, um, Truman show reference at the end.
Oh, number four.
And four.
Yeah.
Uh, and I was even more blown away by the way you got to present the work of the artists,
the NFTs.
Like, for example, I will never forget the Al Greco, uh, experience.
Like, that was crazy to me, you know, and then, uh, you recently also had, as you said, the
live meeting with FX hash, which from what I understand, you also, um, the token that
you need to enter the experience is also an experience by itself, right?
Yeah.
How did it work?
Tell us a little bit about, about that.
Yeah, that's it.
So, um, you know, I think this is something, so at the beginning of, of here and now, for
some strange reason, I promised everyone, I was like, yeah, everyone who kind of, who
joined edition two, I remember being in a space as at one point, I was like, I promise you
I will make six editions, like no matter what, I swear.
And, um, that's something that I've like constantly said over the last few years and, and something
that I really want to stick to.
So, so, you know, we've, we've got one more edition till we can complete that, that promise,
which is, which is really exciting to like, to do that.
And I, and I think because I've made, because I put that out there, I feel like I, it's a
responsibility of, I mean, I'm sure people won't care if I don't, but maybe they will,
but, um, yeah, they probably will.
But, um, but, you know, I feel like that that's really important in terms of evolving and
pushing towards that, that sixth one, and then we can kind of reassess and see where
we're at.
But, um, but that, that evolution is important.
And, and at the heart of here and now it's, it's funny because at the heart of here now
has always been these generative tokens, right?
Like this is like every experience, every edition we've done has, um, has been,
um, the way to get into these experiences is, is, is by owning a generative token.
And, you know, we get amazing generative artists to create these tokens and that's been like
the heart of, of how this all works.
So I was like sitting down one day and I was like, oh, what, what happened?
What, wouldn't it be interesting if you could actually create your own token, your own generative
artwork, um, you know, so that if you, so that the experience itself to get the token,
um, is its own thing, because, you know, one thing that like we, I'm always asking is how
can I make the experience of the arts and the purchasing of the art, uh, more dynamic
and, and an experience like a memory.
So, so it has nostalgia, right?
So whenever you see that piece of art in your wallet, you remember this moment that you
had this kind of connection to it.
And I think those, those moments are, are lost in the NFT space because you're looking
at them on Twitter or on a platform, whereas in real life, you know, you, you would go to
a gallery, you'd meet people, you'll talk to people, you'll see a piece of art or, or
you would, you know, maybe see it at an art fair or, you know, a garage sale or whatever
it is.
But, but those experiences are really important in buying that art because you, it connects
you to them, right?
Like it's, it's not just about the art.
Um, it's about how you arrived at that art and, and how you, your story and that those
two things are connected.
So, you know, I think that's really something that I'm always thinking about.
And with these, with the minting experiences, what we do now is instead of you just buying
a generative token to get you entrance into our experiences, we actually create an interactive
minting experience where, you know, you go inside, um, a world and then every choice you
make, so which portal you might go through or how long you spend in a space, all those
choices are actually affecting your token in real time.
So it's working with the generative artist code and it's saying, okay, you spent this time
and this long in a space, so it'll change that traits.
Uh, you chose that portal.
It will change that trait.
So at the end, when you, you know, you finish the experience, it's taking all those choices
and assigning them to the code and then, uh, creating that generative artwork.
And that, and that, you know, is kind of in line with what I was saying before.
It's all about the experience of getting to the arts and, you know, the story of, around
that.
Yeah, man.
So I have so many questions.
That's the problem.
Like, as soon as you start talking about all this complex stuff, everyone's like, what,
what are you talking about?
No, no, no, I get it.
But, you know, like every answer you give, I get three new questions.
So yeah, that's the thing.
So first of all, let me ask, um, are the previous experiences, like if somebody wanted to try
out the earlier versions, uh, are they still, um, accessible?
Like could somebody, for example, by the second, uh, the token that you need to enter on the
secondary or, uh, are they closed for, um, the earlier ones?
Yeah, they're all up there.
If you just, if you go to hereandnow.events and you have a token, you can get in, um,
they're all, they're always live.
Um, yeah, I think the, the, the, the probably cheapest entry to get in would be edition
four.
Uh, I'd say if anyone's looking to get a secondary token to experience it, um, probably edition
four is the easiest one to, edition two is very, uh, you know, those, those are a couple
hundred, I think, Tezos, um, and then edition three is also, I think edition three and four
are okay, are decent enough.
And then five, and five is currently open still.
Yeah.
Um, so the minting experience for edition five is still open.
That was going to be my next question.
Uh, the one that is now still open for a meeting, uh, is edition five, right?
Yeah.
And where can people, uh, find it?
Maybe we should pin a tweet or something.
Um, yeah.
If you, if you go, I'll try to find it.
Yeah.
If you just go to my pin tweet, I think my pin tweet is still around that.
Um, yeah, my pin tweet has it.
Cool.
Cool.
So, uh, so in the meantime, who is doing all the smart contract work and all the coding
behind those experiences?
Because you get so dynamic, you know, um, trades on the tokens and all the stuff.
Uh, those are quite, uh, quite, let's say, innovative things.
Uh, who is doing all that work?
Are you also doing all that or do you have some team or somebody to help you?
Yeah, it's been different on every project.
Um, so the last project, there's one person I work with, um, George, uh, George Bulling,
who, uh, I work with, I've worked with on every experience.
He's not into crypto NFTs at all.
He just doesn't, it's just, he just doesn't care.
Um, but he, um, no, I don't think, I don't think he ever will be, to be honest.
Um, maybe, maybe you never know.
Um, I've, I've certainly tried, um, every experience I've tried, but he, he, he, um,
he helps me kind of create the, the, the 3d models basically.
So I'll have an idea and then I'll give him a, you know, I'll make a document, a brief,
and then we'll work together and he'll, he'll create kind of what I see in my head.
And then I'll put that together.
And then I've worked with a few different developers, um, around Melbourne.
Every, every experience has been different.
I'd say the person I've worked with most is, um, Vectris.
He's getting more and more involved in, in, in the space.
Um, and he's a developer, a Unity developer.
So all the experiences are created in Unity.
And then on the smart contract side for the last one, code crafting, he did the, um,
the API stuff.
So our experience talking to an API, talking to FX hash params, FX params, he did, he did
all that, um, all that smart contract stuff.
That explains a lot.
Well, that explains a lot.
Yeah.
Well, actually he didn't do smart contract stuff.
He, he did cause the smart, cause the interactive mixing experience, the, the passage was created
with FX params.
So it's using just the FX hash contract, the FX params contract, but code crafting is a
genius.
We all know that.
And, you know, I can't, I can't like tell people enough how, how amazing it is to work
with, but he, yeah, he basically made our experience talk to FX params, like so that they can communicate
with each other.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's why he's so well known, uh, in the Texas community.
Uh, he, he's done like, I don't know, maybe 50% of the projects have used him.
Yeah.
Yeah, totally.
Uh, he's also in the audience.
Shout out to God.
Um, all right.
So now, uh, let's get a little bit to your recent announcement about the online festival,
the antidote.
Um, so tell us what is antidote?
Yeah.
So antidote is a, is a virtual festival, um, uh, you know, quite, quite simple.
Um, it's, it takes place in, on cyber and I'll tell you why, why we're doing it first.
So, and, and I've touched on this already a little bit and I'm basically jealous.
I'm basically just like completely jealous of all the Americans and Europeans going to
all these events and meeting each other and all these friends I've made through the years,
um, in the space.
So I've gotten really close with, you know, all of these people meeting each other and
sharing photos and making connections with new people.
And, and that stuff's really important for this space, you know, like, especially as we kind
of evolve, all those relationships are, are super crucial and I'm just jealous.
Um, and I'm sure there's so many people out there just like me who are also jealous, uh,
and feel FOMO and, and would, would love to have the opportunity to, to kind of also see
some awesome panels, um, you know, see some music, be, just be part of a more festival
vibe.
So we're, we're basically doing that, you know, we're creating an online virtual festival,
um, on, on cyber and anyone can come.
It's free.
You know, we're not, we're not charging anything for this, um, which is, which is crazy really
you're spending a month of your life on something like this, but, but, um, but, but, but, yeah,
I just feel like it's a really great experiment.
It's a really good thing to, to do.
And, um, and it's something that we would like to, to hopefully do at least once a year,
maybe even twice a year.
And yeah, so the, the concepts is answered.
It's, it's, it's a, it's called Antidote.
It's a, it's a festival, an art festival.
And inside this festival, you can, there's a bunch of things you can do.
Um, so there's different environments that you can portal to, uh, there's going to be
a panel state, panels room, and there's going to be five, it takes place from five hours
for five hours.
And during those five hours, there's five panels.
We've got amazing, like amazing people on these panels too, you know, like some heavy
hitters, like Zan Cam.
Yeah.
Want to tell us a little bit about the lineup of artists and creators that will be in the
panel?
Totally.
So for the panels, all, so all the stuff is happening at the same time, right?
So there's a panels environment and all these environments we created, all here and now
environments.
Um, so there's a panel stage, I call them stages.
Um, uh, as panel stages, a live music stage, then FX hash are curating their own space.
Um, um, and in that space, they're going to have six artists who are going to be doing
art talks and we're going to reveal those artists tomorrow, I think.
And, uh, they'll do art talks every hour.
They'll do a talk about their art and, you know, uh, like their collections.
So that's going to be kind of like an art talk space that FX hash are doing.
And then objects are going to have their own curated space.
They did an open call.
So they're going to choose a bunch of art on this open call and curate it.
Taya, we're still talking to Taya, but I think they're leaning towards kind of like a
soapbox kind of thing where anyone can get up for like five minutes and just talk about
stories and experiences, no shilling, just like good vibes.
And, um, and then there's going to be a live music stage, which is really quite fun.
And, uh, basically we've got five or six, six musicians and each of them will have a
set and they'll be performing live.
Um, some of them will be live streamed, like video stream and some of them will just be
live audio, but that's a space.
You can just go in and hang out and listen to music and, um, and all this stuff is happening
at the same time.
And then we've got the panels, which is probably going to be the core of it.
And in that, on that panel stage, we have a talk every hour.
So we have one talk about General Tabat, which is going to have, uh, Ivana Tao, Seth Goldstein
from Bright Moments and Sandcan and Ozzy from FX Ash.
And then we're going to have a VR kind of AR chat with Su Tu, um, Metageist, uh, Jin or
Dank VIs, he's, he's probably more known as, and, uh, Bae Vakna.
And then we're going to have a chat about film three, because that's something that I'm really
passionate about with Jordan Bain and the amazing work that she and Leo Matchett, DCP,
decentralized pictures are doing.
So that should be a really interesting one.
I think not people, not many, not many people know much about film three and kind of what
it can be.
And then we're going to have the, finally, we're going to have, and then also a panel
about music, which with Helix Records, um, and they've got like crazy, amazing artists
in their lineup.
And they'll also be providing all the music in the spaces so that they'll be live, like
streamed, not performed, but live streamed in each space.
Um, and then the last panel will be with Linda Dunia, um, and Oxai and Dina Chung.
And they'll just talk, we're still trying to find the topic, but it'll be about art, collecting.
Um, and then, and for the live music, that's going to be pretty exciting.
We've got, um, we haven't announced any of this yet, but we've got Krilla and they'll
be doing the first set and Krilla, I don't know if you know much about Krilla, but you should
definitely check out what they do is with James Patterson, uh, press tube.
Um, and then the Veltrons and, uh, Jay Byrne will be doing his set, love Jay Byrne and, uh,
a few others.
So yeah, it's, it's, you know, it's a five hour festival, lots going on.
You won't be bored.
You can just jump around the spaces, join in whatever you like.
And, um, yeah, you know, hopefully it's something that really kicks off and, and hopefully a lot
of people support it and we can, we can keep doing these things.
Maybe get some money from like a foundation to, to push it further, um, you know, pay
panelists and stuff like that.
Cause at the moment it's all free.
So I hope everyone can come in and, you know, support it.
Yeah.
I think it sounds really, really great.
Uh, I'll be honest.
I'm excited about it.
Uh, but will it be recorded or something like will the panels, the spaces, the different
spaces be recorded since they will be happening at the same time, you know, uh,
I might get into the, uh, not knowing which one to decide to go or something.
But that's, that's the beauty of it, right?
Like this is, this is something that I love about, about festivals.
And, and I think that's something that's really important is, is these choices you have to
make, like the best, the most frustrating, but also the best experiences at like a music
festival.
And this is like, we've gone, we're really kind of going with the vibe of a music festival.
You know, you go to a festival and you look at the schedule and you're like, damn it.
Oh, maybe I'll see half of that and half of that.
Like the good thing about doing a virtual space is that you don't have to run.
You can just portal.
That's true.
That's true.
Oh, maybe I'll just get, you know, two or three computers.
We will, but to answer your question, I think we will record the panels, um, for sure.
Cause that, cause we're going to, but, but don't say it, don't say it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Have people be there live.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Exactly.
That's the point.
I shouldn't, I shouldn't have asked you.
All right.
Um, yeah, I think we can hear you.
You still with us?
Yes.
I've, I've been with, uh, with you guys this whole time.
Hopefully you can hear me.
I'm actually live streaming, uh, with the season four of here and now.
Um, so if you guys are interested in like what it looks like as a user, um, yeah, I posted
down below, uh, streaming on Twitch right now as we do the space, just kind of hanging
out, walking through it.
So if you guys are interested in what it looks like, yeah, check it out.
Yeah.
Go check it out and then go mint the edition five, which is even better.
I suppose I haven't tried it yet, but I will.
And yeah.
Uh, I don't know if you have any followup questions on the topics.
We discussed, uh, or maybe we could even open the stage for questions from the audience.
Um, there are a lot of things happening, uh, with here and now and the antidote festival.
I don't think there has been any other, uh, such virtual festival hazard.
Um, not that I, not that I know of, not, um, I mean, I'm sure that there have been, but
not that I know of in the NFT space, um, not on this scale, at least.
I think, yeah, yeah, I think, um, you know, we're, we're in a really lucky position here
and now in that we've, we've spent a lot of time in the space and a lot of time with
artists, a lot of time with the community, um, where we're in that position where we can
just be like, Hey, object, Hey, FX hash, you know, Hey, let's do something.
Um, or, you know, get in contact with a bunch of artists.
Oh, something, something else I didn't mention is, is there are, we're also doing kind of
a little curated drop as well inside the experience, which, uh, so Brolcat and Goldcat,
Somfei, Spogel Sessmaskine, uh, I always never know how to say that properly, uh, Gozo, uh,
Mia Forrest, Dina Chang, they're all going to do, uh, their own pieces and drops inside
as well.
So, um, yeah, there's also a little like artist drop in there, which they're all working super
hard on, which is going to be kind of fun and exciting just to give, you know, those
who are collectors the opportunity to, to, uh, collect something if they, if they want.
Um, and you know, all that goes to the artists, we're not taking commissions or anything of
that.
So it's not, it's not like I'm selling it for, for here and now this is, this is solely
just for the artists.
So if you, if you love these artists, you know, you should definitely try and support them
because they're, they're going to release some, some awesome work in there.
Yeah, that's great.
That's great.
And in general, in all the here and now experiences, you collaborate with a lot of artists.
And, uh, I wonder, um, like in the experiences that you create, I suppose they have a big
say in how they are developed, right?
Regarding their art.
When you present an art piece in one of the experiences, uh, how is the collaboration happening?
Do, do they have a lot of input or is it mostly only you to create the experience around the
artwork?
Yeah, it's more, I suppose that's where like more my artistic side comes through, um, kind
of my creations come through in that, in that the artists really don't get involved.
Um, I keep them up to date, up to date with it, but my experiences with, with almost every
single artist has been that they, they just want to focus on, focus on their art.
So, you know, we'll, we'll, we'll discuss a theme and a concept and we'll keep updating
each other through the process.
Um, but they are more so inspiring me in, in that I'm inspiring them, if that makes sense.
There has been a few moments where I'll be like, Hey, this is what I'm doing.
And then artists might change their work a little bit, but that's been very rare for the most
part.
You know, they, they create their piece separately.
Um, they share updates with me and then I build the experience around, around their artwork.
And, and that's the reason it's, it's like that is because I like the experience to feel
cohesive.
Um, you know, kind of have a kind of mood, a general vibe to all of them that, that feels
like it's one thing.
Um, so rather than, you know, if we work 10 artists, 10 different spaces that are completely
different, I'd like to kind of make a journey to each one.
And that's kind of why, why it's set up like that.
And also it's just, it's what I enjoy doing.
Um, so it's kind of my, I suppose my, that's kind of where my creative side comes through.
Yeah.
It makes sense.
It makes sense.
It's to their expertise, right?
Yeah, exactly.
The result is, the result is awesome.
Um, so kudos to you then, because as I said, I really love the presentations of the art.
Uh, not just the Al Greco, all that one stuck with me, but, uh, even the other ones with
the woods and the fires and the, you know, the night noises.
I remember they were magical and I just tried it with, uh, you know, just with a computer
and the headset on, uh, because sound is a big part of the experience as well.
And I was wondering, could you also, um, go through the experience with VR or something?
Is that also an option?
It is an option.
Um, it's, uh, I get asked this question quite a lot, actually.
Um, and it's something that I, it's something we can, um, we can provide.
Um, and I think definitely for the next couple experiences, we're going to start offering them
in VR because it's not that hard to take what we're doing and just put it in VR.
It just needs to be built like that from the beginning.
So it has both options, but, but yeah, totally.
Um, I think VR has got a little bit more of a, an interest again because of the Apple
Vision Pro.
So there's a few more people looking at it again, which is quite exciting.
Um, and, and, and it's a better experience at the end of the day.
Like, you know, if you, if you experience this in VR, it's just going to be a lot more, a
lot more powerful.
Yeah, totally.
Although I, I wasn't a big fan of VR.
I had, you know, one headset, but, uh, I got tired really easily, but, uh, in this kind
of experiences, I think it would be crazy, you know, to see it in VR and have the sounds
and everything around you.
That's the thing about VR is like, you know, there's not, there's some amazing artists out
there creating VR stuff, but it's hard to find good VR projects.
And, you know, even if you just do one good VR project a month, you know, that, that's
probably justifies, you know, having a headset because it's almost like going to a theater,
right?
Like maybe you'll go once every three months, but, um, unfortunately the technology keeps
changing.
That's the only problem.
So you always, it always feels like you have an old headset.
Yeah, totally.
Okay.
Um, so at this stage, we are 45 minutes in already, and I know you had like an hour,
uh, on your hands.
Uh, so I want this last 15 minutes to just open the stage.
And if anyone from the audience wants to come up, feel free to request.
If you have any questions about beats here and now or antidote festival, that's coming
Uh, yeah, definitely request.
It's definitely super sad that my, uh, Mike was a little buggy today.
Cause it's, you definitely got one of the coolest things going on any blockchain, what
a long time does of, um, and I really love it.
And I really cannot see what the, what you and Futu do together.
That's going to blow my head.
Yeah, we've got to, yeah, we've got to do something for sure.
Um, we, we, we, we're, you know, we're, we're kind of good friends.
We were both in Australia.
We've met a couple of times, you know, when he's come to Melbourne and we've, yeah, you
know, we're, we're, we're all, we're running the same circles and it's inevitable that some,
at some point we're going to do something amazing together.
I think it's just leading up to that.
And at the same time, we probably both want it to be something that's pretty special.
And, and it's, it, there's like no doubt in my mind that like, um, you know, I Jack and
here and now are going to blend into something kind of crazy at some point, what it is.
I'm not sure yet, but, but yeah, it's, it's kind of, it's, it's almost written in the cards
at some point, right?
Gotta be like destiny.
Um, and so we got a few, we got a few, uh, so let's see, I believe, um, I'm going to
order that.
Yeah.
Awesome.
Yeah, I think you're breaking up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We, you're, you're not, your sound is not clear.
Uh, but it's okay.
I think you, you, if I heard correctly, you were welcoming, uh, the people that came on
stage and breeze was the first one breeze.
Welcome.
Uh, feel free to open, uh, with your question.
Yeah.
Uh, yeah, sorry, I wasn't, I wasn't hearing what you were saying, but anyways, um, so I was
curious, uh, cause this is how I've, uh, felt, but, um, I think that I might be super biased,
uh, knowing that I don't really mess, uh, transact much at all on any other chain, but
I feel like, I don't know.
I feel that Tezos, uh, at least the people here that are in it now, um, I feel like, uh,
I, you get, I feel the sense of like freedom or like open doors to a lot of kind of how
you mentioned earlier, like hit up FX hash or object and, you know, Hey, you guys want
to do something cool.
You know, do you feel that that is, uh, more prominent, that kind of like accessibility
or making cool shit happen, um, on chain with Tezos?
Is that something you see here that you don't see on any other chain?
I don't know if you have that experience at all.
Totally.
Um, you know, I've been, so I've been strictly Tezos for like, well, since the start.
Um, and although like here and now are doing, uh, we, we've got this side thing going on
now, which we're going to launch in a couple of weeks for Ethereum.
And I think that's, you know, I think that's important just because at the end of the day,
that cross chain is important because hopefully people will come over to Tezos anyway with
these projects.
But, you know, since dabbling in Ethereum a little bit, um, and trying to understand the
culture over there in this festival, isn't like chain agnostic, right?
Like there's antidote festivals for everyone.
We're not saying it's only Tezos.
It's just, it just so happens that like the people who've ever responded and the people
I know and the people are into these things and willing to experiment, they all come from
Tezos, every single one of them.
You know, I've approached, I approach pretty much all platforms for this, for this festival.
And the only ones who got back to me were the Tezos platforms.
So I feel like that says, that says so much already, right?
That accessibility and that, I mean, I am lucky in that it's, you know, I have the trust
of these platforms, um, that, that they, you know, that they'll answer my calls and where
on Ethereum, like no one knows anything that I do on Ethereum.
So, you know, it'd be like a random message.
If I got in touch with SuperRare or someone, they're just like, who is this guy?
Um, so that's probably a little bit biased in that sense, but, um, but, but even that,
I feel like with all the, with the engagement we've got with the tweets we've done and just
the idea of the festival, I feel like really it's been Tezos specific.
Um, and, and I think that comes down to what you said.
It comes down to people being open and, and understanding that we're like, we're here
not to say it's one thing, right?
We're not, we're not here to say this is, this is what it is.
Like, this is the only thing it can be.
This is, we, we, I feel like a lot of people understand that, um, we're experimenting and
trying things and, and, you know, here and now is like, it's literally what we do.
We, we, we, we do things differently every time.
And sometimes it lands, sometimes it kind of lands, but for the most part, I feel like people's
experiences of that understanding is, is, is key because they, they come out of it
going, you know, like that was something that I wanted to be involved in because I, I know
what you're trying to do.
Like, I know, like, I understand where you're pushing this and I want to be part of that.
You know, I think that, that kind of mindset is, is really unique to, to Tezos.
Awesome.
Um, so after Breeze, I think Janie came up and then Lily and then Chaz.
Um, so yeah, Janie, welcome.
Welcome.
Do you have a question for Beats?
Yeah.
I am.
Welcome.
I didn't hear all of this, um, talk.
So please forgive me if I ask questions that are, that have already been, you know, talked
about, but I've, um, done some experimenting with VR and AR.
Um, and I've also worked in it, um, commercially, but I've done, um, uh, you know, artwork in
an immersive, in the immersive realm, but I always.
Yeah.
You've done, you've done like 360 stuff.
We talk way back.
Yeah.
We talk way back.
But I've also done.
Yeah.
You do 360 videos and stuff.
And I've worked with NERVS and I've worked with AR and I've worked with, um, you know,
other types of interactive, immersive media.
But, um, I would love to someday be able to have, make a project that's, you know, like
what you're talking about, like being able to be involved in some, creating some immersive
art that can be on blockchain.
And I just haven't really done it yet, but I, and I don't know if there's an opportunity
for, to be able to, with what you're building to, to do that.
Because like I said, I didn't hear the beginning of all of this.
And so I just thought I'd say hi, you know, instead of like DMing, saying hi, can I get
into this or what is it?
Or is it, I'm sure it's all highly curated or I don't know, but I just thought I'd speak
up and.
Yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
Um, we, you know, we're, we're always, um, you know, like, I don't know what the next
project's going to be.
I've got a vague idea of it, but, um, you know, we're always, we're always kind of like
last year, for example, we did this, this thing, which was, which went really well, which
was kind of like, I hate to call it an artisan residency.
Cause it wasn't really an artisan residency.
Um, it was like, it was more so we, you know, we did an open call, uh, for ideas for a project
and people submitted.
And then we ended up helping them create that piece, which featured in our experience.
And that was great because like, I got to do my thing.
Like I got to still have that kind of creative kind of freedom of creating the experience,
which, which is, which I'd love to do.
But then also we were able to like integrate other people's visions into, into the bigger
picture.
And I think that kind of stuff is something that I'd love to push forward.
Um, and I, and I, I think that kind of space would be really great for you because
you get to do your own thing and then, you know, you'd be able to kind of implement
that idea into something we're doing, but it would be your own experience in the world.
Because then I would have the support that I need and, um, you know, from a technical
perspective, um, and, and also be able to do something or some kind of collaboration.
I'm, you know, just, um, I think because of the vision pro VR has a new lease on life.
Hmm.
Um, yeah, definitely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, keep, keep, keep, keep, keep near the ground.
We'd, I'm not sure when, when the next thing is coming.
Um, but you know, there's, there's no rush to these things, right?
It happens when it happens.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Keep you to the ground and, and, and, um, we'll probably do like another open call at
some point.
All right.
Thanks very much.
Thanks, Jenny.
Thank you, Jenny, for coming up.
Um, and next one was Lily.
Hi, Lily.
Welcome.
Hi, Cartonio.
Hi, Beats.
Um, hello.
Hi, Theo, if you can still hear us.
He can hear us, but I, I, I'm watching him, uh, streaming live the, uh, here and now
thought experience.
Uh, so he's listening, but I think his focus is there now.
All righty.
All righty.
That's funny.
Well, I'm Lily White from Teztown and I'd like to invite you each to come on Friday night.
We have a space that's about, uh, news, tech, DeFi and events on the Tezos blockchain or
any, actually in the metaverse for that particular space.
Uh, but we focus on Tezos.
Um, if you'd like to come, it's 11 PM Eastern standard time.
I'm not sure what time zone you're on, but if you're available, we'd love to have you
come and tell people about, uh, what you're up to with.
Um, and yeah, yeah, I don't know.
It's a hit or miss space.
I'll tell you that we could have a hundred people or two.
I just never know.
But you know, if you want to come and, uh, yeah, it's recorded and, uh, anyways, you're
welcome to do that.
Yeah, cool.
That's awesome.
Send, send me a message.
Um, and we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll plan something.
And then, yeah, thank you.
I will.
And then Kryptonio, if, um, if we can talk about the survey for a minute after everything,
after everybody asks their questions, the beats, I really appreciate it.
Uh, absolutely.
Absolutely.
So stay on the stage and, uh, yeah, once we are done with the questions, uh, you can
totally, uh, talk for a few minutes about the survey.
Uh, so for now, let's go to Chaz and, uh, Chaz, welcome to the stage.
Hey, what's up?
I just had a quick question.
Is the, uh, the open call closed now?
Do you guys already pick out all the artists that you're going to work with or is it still
open?
Uh, so we haven't, we haven't done.
Um, another open call that was for, for, for a previous project.
Um, we did, we did do, uh, uh, an open call for, um, for last, well, this, this January,
we did one, but we had to cancel that one, um, because things got really, really crazy,
um, with what we're doing with the, the passage.
Um, so, um, there was just all these delays that happened, um, because FX params on FX
hash side, like they were changing some things.
So go and join.com with the name anecdotes on it.
I thought that I, oh, are you talking about antidote?
Yeah, no.
Okay.
Yeah.
So antidote, sorry, I thought you were talking about what Jenny and I were talking about.
Um, the, that open cause are still, it's still open, I believe.
Um, so that, that's something that I'm not curating.
It's in the antidote festival, but, um, submit your artwork and then objects will be choosing,
you know, they'll be basically choosing the pieces.
I did.
I was just wondering, I thought the guys, I thought this was the same thing, the same
name, so.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's the same thing.
Like it's, it's a festival we're organizing, but inside the festival object are curating
a space and that space they're curating and choosing the pieces.
Cool.
Yeah.
Cool.
Thanks for answering my question.
No worries.
What is your festival?
When is it?
Yeah.
Uh, July 7th.
Yeah.
So if you go to here and now, uh, that, um, underscore exp here and underscore exp, you'll
see, um, all the info there, but July 7th starts at 1 PM ET, um, or 6 PM.
Metaverse festival.
Yeah.
It's all on cyber.
Yeah.
Okay.
Cool.
Yeah.
Awesome.
Thanks man.
Great.
Thank you for the question, Chaz.
And yeah, by the way, I have pinned, uh, up on the screen.
Um, both the tweet about the, with all the panel speakers and all the different, uh, spaces
that will be inside the festival, as well as the original tweet with the time and July
7th.
Yeah.
Uh, one thing you don't mention is the, uh, the duration, which you said will be for five
hours, right?
Yeah, exactly.
So, um, we'll, we'll, we're doing our main tweet on Thursday and that tweet's going to
have all the schedules, times, you know, it's going to be like a detailed rundown of everything
that's happening.
Awesome.
And we'll, we'll, we'll do that on Thursday.
Great.
Great.
I was just gonna, uh, gonna ask that if you're planning to, uh, post the exact, you know,
hours and everything soon.
So that's great.
Yeah.
All right.
Uh, let's see if we have any other questions, anybody from the audience, if you feel we
got almost to the hour.
So, uh, bits, thank you so much for being here.
Um, if we don't get any other requests, is there any final thoughts, anything you would
like to share?
Something maybe that we missed out?
No, I think, you know, we covered a lot.
Um, yeah, you know, I'm, I'm excited.
Like it's, it's, I think it's, it's, it's, uh, it's a tough time for, for everyone in,
in, in, in the NMT space.
You know, there's, there's a lot of negativity.
There's a lot of people who are unsure about things.
Um, and, you know, we, we really hope that this festival antidote can be something that
is a little bit of a light, you know, something that is fun and, and it's just for good
vibes and, and we hope everyone can come along and experience that.
Cause I think, you know, it's a great way to also like just see other people, get people
involved.
Um, and, you know, I think these things are important.
Um, even if you don't come to antidote, I feel like in general, you know, get out in
your local, local space community, um, meet people.
I feel like we were often so wrapped up in, in, in a Twitter thread that that can be super
toxic.
And I think that interaction is super crucial in, in collaboration and experience and, and
just, just overall kind of, you know, good vibes.
Um, I just, I just recommend people to do that, you know, get, get out, do these types of
experiences and, um, and be inspired again, you know, because at the end of the day, it's
about the art.
It's about what we're making here.
Um, crypto or not, you know, um, and that inspiration is crucial for any artist.
Yeah, I agree a hundred percent.
And by the way, we should get in touch at some point to maybe organize a meetup, uh, down
in Melbourne cause we already had, uh, some meetups done in Perth and in recently Pamela
Kerr did a meetup, an event in, uh, Queensland in Townsville.
So, yeah, yeah, I saw that.
Yeah.
So we should do something about Melbourne as well, I think.
I'd love to.
There's a great gallery here called Oshii Gallery.
We're very, um, close with, um, well, um, you know, we, we know each other and we support
each other.
So that they'd be, and they're like the go-to, um, sort of entity gallery here.
And I know they'd be held keen on, on doing a Tezos event there.
Um, so yeah, I, I think it'd be an easy, an easy thing to pull off and, you know, we
should definitely get in touch for that.
Uh, all right.
Uh, so we are over the hour now.
Um, I think we covered everything.
Thank you all for being here.
Um, I'm gonna, I'm gonna let Beats drop because I know he's busy, really busy at the moment,
although he doesn't show.
And also I want to give a few minutes to Lily to talk about the survey.
Uh, Beats, you're free to stick around or jump off if you are busy.
Um, so yeah.
Uh, thank you once again, Beats.
Thanks so much, everyone.
Thanks for listening and joining and hit, hit me up.
Um, you know, follow here and now as well.
Uh, that's where most of the announcements are going to be made.
But follow me and, and we'll, uh, yeah, look forward to seeing you all around at the
festival and if not then at a future experience.
And thanks so much for, for the chat.
It's been fun.
Absolutely.
It was my pleasure.
Um, see you, man.
Take care.
Uh, all right, Lily, you're still with us?
I'm, I'm still here.
Awesome.
Awesome.
Um, can I, can I pin it to the, pin, uh, the survey to the nest?
Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
Okay.
Um, hi guys.
My name is Lily White and I'm from Teztown and Teztown is currently conducting a Tezos
community-wide survey.
This is not just for the NFT side of things.
This is also for people in the music, tech, um, dev and DeFi, uh, anybody that's investing
on Tezos as well.
Um, this survey is supposed to be sort of a historical marker of where we are right now.
We talk about here and now, here and now mean ticket monk.
It's really, if you're OG, uh, tie that all together with, with, um, what was just happening
here in the space.
Um, but, um, besides being a historical marker, we're hoping that, um, the communities that
are on the Tezos blockchain, like Tezos Commons and Teztown Object and Versum and so on and
so forth, uh, Tezos Philippines maybe, can use the data to help them make their plans for
the one, three, five-year plans.
And also perhaps hopefully they can use it to do some fundraising outside of, uh, you
know, like not the Tezos Foundation that, but in the real world, there are organizations
that help, uh, people build communities and projects.
So, um, we're hoping that this, these statistics will help all of those people and the, I've
pinned it to the nest.
Um, what we're asking people to do is take five minutes to fill out the survey to the best
of your ability.
We're collecting no personally identifying information, meaning I don't get your email
address.
I don't want it, your Twitter handle, your name, anything like that, email.
I don't want any of those things.
We just want the data about you, um, and so that you're represented and your community is
represented.
So please, if you, um, if you belong to any communities that are on Tezos, whether they're
on Twitter, Telegram, Instagram, Facebook, wherever they are, uh, please share the survey
with them.
The more responses we get, the more valid the information is.
We're really trying hard to get to a thousand.
We're just under 500 right now.
So we have a long way to go and we have extended the deadline to July 10th, but we really can't
go further than that because we need to get the data correlated, ready and, and out to all
the communities so that they can, um, uh, you know, get ready to do their fundraising.
Cause a lot of the places like in the real world, we'll start taking applications in August
through November, uh, for funding after the first of the year.
So that's why we're on that little bit of a time crunch.
And also, um, I have been invited to S women and S Toronto and the futuristic, no blockchain
futuristic conference.
I might be saying that futurist conscious conference in Toronto, uh, in the middle of
July.
Um, and I'm hoping, uh, to that, you know, this is for you, Kryptonio and Theo, I'm hoping
to set up, uh, some kind of small Tesla's event there.
Um, so we'll be talking more about that in the test town spaces.
Uh, if we can get it, get the ball rolling on that.
Thank you so much for the time guys.
And if anybody has any questions, my DMs are open.
Test town's DMs are open as well.
Thank you, Lily.
And yeah, we can get in touch after the space as well.
Um, and with that, I was going to say to also post the survey in the comments, but I
see you already did because the pinned tweets are not sticky for the recordings.
Um, so that's great.
All right.
So, uh, I think we can close here guys.
Uh, thank you all for joining.
Uh, just quickly remind that, um, we also run, uh, programs like the Texas community rewards
programs.
I have pinned a few tweets, uh, up in the space.
The first ones where you can go to tezoscommons.org slash rewards and check out, we know and nominate
people there, we give out up to 5,000 tests every month to people that bring some sort
of value to the Tezos ecosystem, whether it is by onboarding other people or by contributing
with some other way.
Um, and you can nominate people that you think deserve to win in one of the many categories
we have.
Um, it takes only 30 seconds to fill the form, or if you don't want to do that, you can easily
just comment with the hashtag Tezos CRP under a tweet that you see, for example, something
good happening, somebody helping somebody else or something like that.
And we check all those at the end of the month and come up with the winners, uh, after
that.
So, yeah, once again, uh, I see Saye has requested, but we're running out of time, Saye, I'm sorry.
Uh, we're going to close here.
Thank you all so much again and take care everybody.
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