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Tuesday | TezDay: TezCon is coming!
Recorded: April 1, 2025 Duration: 1:42:57Space Recording
Short Summary
TezCon 2025 is set to be a major event celebrating the Tezos community, featuring innovative projects like Hanji on Etherlink and Skirpy's social media-NFT integration. The event will also highlight yield opportunities, such as Apple Farm's $3 million rewards and the Quebec protocol's enhanced staking returns. The Tezos Trailblazers program and Community Rewards Program offer grants and incentives to creators and contributors, while Taya Cafe's initiative to turn NFTs into physical art pieces showcases innovation in bridging digital and physical realms. The event emphasizes diversity and inclusion, reflecting broader trends in the blockchain space.
Full Transcription
Oh, man, I had to be quick.
Chris almost beat me.
I would have been embarrassed.
Welcome.
Welcome, Chris. Welcome, everyone. Welcome back. almost beat me i would have been embarrassed welcome welcome chris welcome everyone
welcome back to tuesday tes day i'm blangs here with my coast my co-host cryptonio and tonight
we've got a stacked episode lined up we're talking with the team behind tezcom 2025 mark ryan and jake who've been working
behind the scenes to pull together what's shaping up to be a creative community first
celebration of all things tezos this summer in seattle We'll be talking about the events planned, about how this
came together, and how folks can get involved, whether you're local or planning to travel in.
Before we get into the details, let's go through some of the latest headlines from around Tezos.
headlines from around Tezos.
The month at a glance, March 2025.
March was packed between Hanji's launch on Etherlink,
Apple Farm Season 1 kicking off with $3 million in rewards,
and the new Tezos Trailblazers program inviting creators,
builders, and organizers into the spotlight,
this month felt like a momentum shift.
We also saw Skirpy enter the mix, blending social media with NFTs,
and Gate.io making Etherlink more accessible.
The Rio proposal cleared the exploration phase,
Masari dropped a full Etherlink ecosystem report.
And Uranium.io made uranium ownership
feel as simple as buying a hoodie online.
If you want the full picture
and all the small but important updates
that didn't make it into your feed,
check out the March edition of Month at a Glance
over at news.tezoscommons.org.
You'll get the rundown on everything from game dev tooling
to real-world assets and more.
Staking update.
Try the revamped DAP and earned three times the rewards.
There's a new way to earn money,
or earn more from your Te thanks to the quebec protocol update
staking now earns three times the rewards of standard delegation and on top of that
the team at trilotech just rolled out a redesigned staking dap that makes the process way more
intuitive even if you've never staked before. The new interface walks you through everything
from choosing a baker to locking your TES, all in just a few clicks. The best part? You don't
need to learn anything new. The system now bundles delegation and staking into one smooth process.
If you want to try it out or just get a better grasp of how it all works,
including how to unstake, switch bakers, or finalize your rewards, check out the full tutorial
from Linda Witters, now live on spotlight.tezos.com. It's a clear step-by-step guide that'll have you
staking in no time. All right, right folks who's tired of scrolling x for hours
just to catch up on tezos let's make it simple the baking sheet is your vip pass to everything
tezos weekly updates hot community stories and the latest news all landing right in your inbox. No fluff, no endless feeds, just the good stuff.
Takes two seconds to subscribe at bakingsheet.tezoscommons.org.
Tezos runs on its people. You make it epic.
The Tezos Community Rewards Program is here to shout out the rock stars who are building, creating, or grinding behind the scenes.
Know someone killing it?
Don't sleep on this.
Nominate them at tezoscommons.org slash rewards.
Or slap a hashtag TezosCRP tag on their work.
And let's get the community buzzing about it.
Who's got someone in mind?
Let's hear those names.
Drop that hashtag and make it happen.
All right.
Well, that wraps up the news.
So let's get into the feature.
Let's get into the feature.
I see we're about halfway here, and that'll work for me.
TezCon 2025 is more than just a conference.
It's a weekend of music, art, collaboration, and community.
And tonight we're joined, well, hopefully by three,
if we can get Fendel up here.
But right now we've got two.
I see Fendel in the audience.
Maybe he's up here and I just can't see him. We are joined by these three guys helping to bring it to life,
Mark, Ryan, and Jake. So thanks for joining us. Let's kick things off with how this whole
thing started. I want to start at the beginning, you guys, but before we get going, welcome,
welcome, Ryan, Jake, how the heck are you? And Kry going welcome welcome ryan jake how the heck are
you and kryptonio welcome welcome how the heck are you hey can you hear me yeah cloud and clear
beautiful oh fendel made it i'm happy now and oh there's jake i hear static he's probably he's
probably at work doing something. I'm here.
Nice. I appreciate you making the time for this, gentlemen. And Fendel, welcome.
Oh, welcome. Good to see you.
I'm guessing you're busy, so we'll let you be
busy. Alright, so let's start at the beginning,
guys. What
sparked the idea for
TezCon, and how did you three end up coming together around it
um how did it start actually okay okay so yeah was, uh, Mark, uh, Perizzino, uh, Hash
Brown and I, um, we were kind of just in a, in a, uh, the Tez Tones, I think chat, Tez
Tones planning chat.
And it was, I, I don't, you know, I, I couldn't say exactly.
It was one person, um, who kind of came up with it. I know Hash was
talking about doing something down in California. And I was like, hey, man, there's this NFT
museum right down here in Seattle. And Mark's like, I know exactly where that's at. I work
two blocks away. And, you know, we kind of just like a week or two talking about it and
um i i looked at the price for the rental i was like you guys i will i will support this you know
if you're if you're down if you're dead serious let's let's start doing this thing where we
you know kind of get artists all the artists together because, you know, we were looking around. It was like, oh man, you know, there's, there's Bill Knight
that's in Seattle. There's, uh, Paul who is a ghost who's nearby. Um, I know, um,
B-Dwell is down in Portland. Um, and, uh, uh, Flex, I think, you know, is from the West Coast
somewhere. And, you know, it was like 20-30 names that we had right off the bat
that were right out of the Pacific Northwest or west coast who said, yeah man, you do this, we'll show up.
You know, it was kind of like that
if you build it they will come moment. It was like, all right, I'm doing this. So I messaged her and
all right, I'm doing this. So I, I messaged her and, and, uh, the, the lady that ran the museum
and, um, she said, yeah, we got the time open. And I said, okay, here's the money. Let's go.
And we just kind of started rolling from there. And then, um, we needed a little more,
somebody with a little more like experience organizing and, um and it was like oh ryan's ryan's our guy
here so we brought him in like halfway through the planning stage to kind of help um yeah get
things more organized well it was our first time so it was pretty chaotic you know
so yeah i have to be honest about
that. But this time, this time, we have a lot more time to plan
ahead, you know, we have a budget, and you know, sponsorships
and everything. And so yeah, I did come halfway through. So
yeah, I actually don't know how the whole thing started but I knew you were involved
so it was kind of I thought it was your idea at first honestly I well I think we it was kind of
but I mean our hash was was talking about doing something with his buddies down in California
and I
think I was like well let's let's think bigger let's go bigger and really make
this into a big event and I want to say I want to say it was hash brown who came
up with the name Ted Khan yeah so yeah I can't remember I had an idea and I
bounced off and he really liked it but it it was like, oh, you know what?
TezCon is just, that's it, man.
That's it.
That's the name.
In case you didn't know, at the time I was living in LA and I've known Jake for a long time.
I've known him even before Tezos.
We used to do politics together.
Yeah, that's a whole other story,
but he's been really, really helpful with Pea Cafe,
you know, my current company.
And especially when I first started the project,
he was doing a lot of bug testing for us
and just getting, you know, really helpful feedback.
And so, you know, when he came up with the
idea of tesla and i was like i knew he was serious you know because because uh jake's the kind of guy
that like likes to get things done you know so i was like oh okay um sure let's see what can happen and how long was it we only had like a month or
two to like put everything together you know yeah I think by the time you came
in we had about two months and it was like oh shit oh shit and and you know
it's like sorta came in as like a small sponsor for the event, you know, like putting a little bit of money just to put an ad, like, you know, our name up there, right? Their name event.
But it was mostly like a local thing, you know, Jake and Mark did most of the work because
I wasn't living there at the time. So, yeah.
And so you were at the event, so you know what happened during that time.
Yeah, I was blessed to be there, man.
That was an amazing event.
That didn't seem like a two-month-long, one-off, chaotic, harebrained mess.
It felt pretty organized. You did pretty well.
I would like to give you guys the credit.
As long as we left the impression
that we were.
You know we can't see the thousand things that go wrong
until you start pointing.
There's a lot that went wrong, but we don't know
what's wrong.
I wouldn't know. I thought it went off great, and I had an
amazing time, and I'm pretty sure everybody else did.
No, but it was really the people that made it work.
And, you know, as Blank mentioned, I live in Seattle now.
And, you know, I was looking to leave L.A. at some point anyway.
But TizCon was actually a a very very big reason why I decided
to relocate here and um you know like like uh it was the first like music oriented event
in a long time that I that for me personally felt authentic you know even after the event was done went over to
fendel's house and had jam sessions you know and that was a lot of fun uh i haven't done that a
long time you know ever ever since like kobe um so they took it as a sign and i i just came up here
you know so that's hard, man.
That's a huge transition.
Big cities are different.
A lot of people, I don't know how many people have experience in big cities long term,
but all the cities are different. They eat, sleep, and breathe differently.
Seattle is a radically different city than San Francisco or Phoenix.
It's very different yeah
there's a lot of similarities too but um but yeah the culture is definitely definitely the weather
um is mark mark have you dried out at all or are you just getting wetter every day
uh i'm getting used to it
I'm getting used to it.
Yeah, it's...
I don't know.
Maybe I took the sun for granted.
It takes a lot of moisture to be that green.
To really have that green of everything.
When the logs that are next to the trees and the trees have moss growing on them, it's got to be wet.
It's got to be wet you know it's got to be
wet yeah no uh uh i forgot to mention uh mighty moss is also involved with this as well um but
now i know i understand where the moss thing comes from yeah in washington it can roll and still
grow moss in washington it's a weird one is Is Fendel's mic working now?
Is this working okay? Can you hear me?
No, can't hear you, Fendel. Sorry. Yes, I can hear you. Just kidding.
That would be horrible.
I see you've been messing
with tapes, man. I'm kind of jealous. I want to know
what that all sounds like. You do some of the most
creative stuff musically. It's wild to
watch. I would never think to do that.
Fendel's like, well, of course you would do this.
Well, it's pretty esoteric stuff honestly no it's important for him to be here because he's a very crucial part of this whole thing you know um fendel's like a a long time resident of the area
he knows the city inside out and um a lot of the lot of the organizing wouldn't have happened without him.
You know, and so, yeah, but but I think this is sort of our first.
Well, the goal for this whole thing is to really try to bring you know the digital into the physical
right i think you mentioned that a few times but um having that like face-to-face
interaction uh really is it irreplaceable right and and oh yeah for for for a lot of things right
well and a lot of blockchain events can feel overly technical or product-driven,
but TezCon really does feel like it's more grassroots.
It's got a creative spirit.
I mean, that was intentional, right, from the start?
Oh, absolutely.
Sure, yeah.
Oh, it was.
Yes.
Yes.
Well, yeah, part of that was like what Ryan was talking about earlier.
It's like, oh, Jake, I thought you kind of came up with it.
And it was like something I had noticed was that all these artists who had worked together on all these collaborations hardly had ever met.
Like almost none of them had met each other in real life.
each other in real life you know uh i don't know if you guys know but mark does like so much of the
music for everybody on on tezos he does the music for the tez vending machine that flex had built
and um they never met and it was like man i could just see it it's like if i could get all these
people in one spot i know that i can help them, you know, collaborate more,
revitalize some of that energy, get some motivation going for another year.
And so, I mean, that's, that's definitely one of the things I wanted to,
it to be, you know,
the main part of it was just getting these artists together.
Cause even at the, you know big um tezos events
and stuff a lot of times a lot of artists can't make it you know to germany or um ryan made it
out there to miami that was for tensile for tesla ryan was the meme
people actually drew him into their
photos not even
knowing it was Ryan
that feels like such a long time ago man
no he's right
and the nice thing is that
you know I've been
I feel like
Tezles people you that they're kind of like
my tribe at this point. But it's very difficult in some ways, because people are all spread
out. And you know, since we're an international community, not everyone can be everywhere,
right. But we got to try, you know know and the nice thing is like every time i met
a tesla's person they're pretty much the same like what you would expect you know even though
i've never met this person ever in real life when you actually do they're like oh yeah you're you
know such and such on on twitter or whatever and there's no surprises because i feel like
people in this community are pretty authentic you know they don't try to misrepresent themselves or
exaggerate right they're they're pretty yeah you know what would you what you see is what you get
so so that what that's what made like last's Tiscod so great.
And I felt very comfortable the whole time talking with anyone there.
Oh, it can get awkward talking with strangers.
Especially, too, when the one thing that really connects you all is this weird veil of anonymity.
You know what I mean?
It can be awkward.
But yeah, dude, I felt
like I was just hanging out with friends
and we were all, I don't know,
do I date myself by saying
I got buddies on the PlayStation Network that I
would go meet in Vegas and we would hang out
for like a week. Does that date me?
I don't know.
See, like old school, man.
I don't know. We would play
Call of Duty, say, for years.
Go through all the different games.
PlayStation Network, huh?
Oh, wow.
Yeah, my PSN ID.
It's like your Xbox ID.
Anyway.
Let's stay on topic here, guys.
Come on, White.
No, I'm kidding.
So, hey, I'm going to bring it back around to TezCon real quick.
Can you kind of walk us through what people can sort of expect
over that Tescon week
slash weekend? Like, what's the general
vibe across the different days?
Who wants to answer that?
Just make Fendl talk. He hasn't talked much at all.
Make Fendl talk.
It's all cool.
I'm your keep. Yeah, we're going. Make Fendletuck. Yeah, let's. Fendletuck. It's all cool. On your teeth.
Yeah, we're going to have a couple of really nice events before TezCon.
The Thursday and Friday, if people are in town, we are going to just do a fun tour of West Seattle and kind of the fun places to
see it is beautiful here along the Puget Sound Salish Sea and so I thought I'd
like to you know share you know just like an hour or two of people are in
town you know from who knows where.
And we'll have more information on that and times and stuff in the Discord.
And then, let's see, we had one.
Oh, and then on the Thursday, I think it's the Thursday,
I'm just kind of remembering off the top of my head here, but we're going to
have like a little tour of the Duwamish Longhouse, which is the local tribe here in Seattle. And
it's the Seattle namesake. Chief Seattle is named for, he's the head of the Duwamish and, um,
and that's right here in West Seattle too. So real easy, real easy to get to. Um,
and, uh, so we'll have those two events, um, the Thursday and Friday,
and then TezCon of course on Saturday, the 28th. And then on Sunday,
we've got the, um, music, the Tezos Music Showcase, which is an outdoor afternoon event, family, kind of a family event right here in West Seattle.
kind of located real close um if you haven't been here that's like maybe 15 minutes from downtown
or maybe like 20 really 20 minutes from the airport um so that really makes it easy this
time for people that are visiting from out of town to get around and make the event
and have a place to stay as well.
One key detail about the Pacific Northwest, specifically Seattle,
is if it says that it's two and a half miles away, it's 15 minutes away.
It's not five minutes.
It's not seven.
And everybody up there will tell you in time how long it will take you to get there your google map will lie to you it'll tell you oh yeah yeah this road goes
right there and you'll get there in 17 minutes it's only like eight miles away and in the back
of all of our heads in washington it's 30 minutes away so anyway just keep that in mind if you are
doing any travel keep that in mind uh it's it's you. It's the area. The area is meant to trap you
and not let you leave.
And you have to take one road out
with one lane
and learn to live with it
and love it.
Well, it's just grown.
You really need to be a lumberjack
and ride horses.
Yes.
If you're from the Northeast,
you kind of get the same feeling
with the way their roads are.
But you guys still talk in miles out there.
You don't talk in time.
That's a weird Washington thing. there, you know, talking time.
That's a weird Washington thing.
Anyway, sorry, I love it.
We still have covered wagons and stuff.
Oh, you guys are great.
Dude, I'm looking forward to this, man.
So, like, is there any, like, maybe, like, tidbits or little secrets we should know about some of these places you want to take us to?
You know, there's a few, like, little places i'll i mean i'll just tell you right out you know um there's a couple places that even the people who live here in west seattle don't even really
know about or go to because they just don't know it's there really um brian actually took Ryan Tanaka over to Brace Point.
He knows all the secret places around here, and he knows all the cool spots.
So the tour is definitely worth taking.
Is this like getting a Sherpa and going up to the top of Everest?
You get the best Sherpa?
Pretty much.
Except we won't have to do any work.
No schlepping of the equipment well if you do fendel will schlep it because he's the sherpa right mark's a great host you know he's a
great host and he knows the area so well like he'll take you to the coolest spots like for sure
i uh i went ahead and added hash brown up here because, I mean, let's be fair, he's kind of involved.
He's only been at a couple of the meetings, though, you know.
How are you, Hashbrown? Welcome, welcome.
What's up, guys?
French.
So, music seems to be playing a big role at this year's event.
Mark, you've got a background in that space.
How did you approach bringing live performance into a blockchain gathering?
That's a really good question.
Well, I think a lot of those ideas were bounced back and forth with Hashbrown about know, that about a year ago, or just a little longer than that, you
know. And it just seemed like a great idea. And, and getting
together is is the proof to me. And that's what, you know, that's
what I'm actually like, about is, you you know it's fun to collaborate but oh my gosh
to see you guys in real life nothing like it so and play music together you know yeah yeah well
the whole point of tescon was to be the opposite of a tech conference like every time we go to
an event it's a tezos even it says this is great because there's a lot of artists there but any
other time you're going to like east denver ethis you're lucky if you're going to an nft event and
even then it's all couched around money and like all these things right it's like how can we make
an event that's what we'd want to go to like one of the original plans was to have it be a completely
just golden gate park get some generators play some music and just have it be a chill event.
Right. And then Jake was like, hey, we could fund this and do this in a real venue, which was a crazy idea to us because it was going to be so bootleg.
And yeah, you know, it's like that's that's the whole idea that that is the spirit of TazCon.
It's like in a world of tech where we are a footnote how do we become the main attraction how do people like we saw wise
say oh i want to be there because there was a video of us jamming in fendel's living room you
know like that's the energy we want and that's the maybe things you kind of see at other events but
like let's make that the event yeah they would they would never allow for a jam session right
it's you know and and because these corporate people are too
risk averse they don't want something they can't control and if you're just like oh they'll just
do whatever you know that's that's scary to them right like honestly that that scares it
but but i you know like as a whole uh not it's not just tesls but it felt like music itself it tends to be underrepresented
in the web3 space uh you know i know because i've done like you know i've been building
stuff on chain for for a long time but uh the percentage of music to versus visual arts is like astronomical like so the people here who are
in this room right now we're one of the few people willing to actually make music you know on on the
blockchain there's a few other and you know there's a few others in uh chains, but it's very, very few compared to the, you know, as a whole.
Because the internet itself is a very visually driven medium, right?
You know, so we felt like it's important to have music, even this year, as sort of the center, you know, like kind of the core of how we're putting everything together.
Because I think no matter what happens, it's going to be different, you know, from what everyone else is doing, I think.
It's going to be different from what everyone else is doing, I think.
Now, I had the pleasure of joining the after party of last year's event.
And one of my favorite things was watching you guys get down on some live music.
Watching Hash beat the drums.
Watching Flex hit the keyboard.
And then, of course, there was
live music playing during the event, but
watching you guys get to
just improvise and have fun
and then the neighbor
brought over a bass. It got wild.
So, can we expect
any of those kind of moments
or maybe surprise sets like that again
this year?
It's just going to just gonna happen you know if
if people are vibing you know and i'm pretty sure it's going to be the case oh uh flex is a very good
piano player if you haven't if you didn't know that already i was i was really surprised
like he started jamming he went on the piano started jamming out with the rest of us and
he was like wow he's pretty good damn you know and then uh we found out later that yeah he's that he
was actually like trained you know and so yeah you never know right and and at these events where
people are just kind of relaxed and having fun you see other sides of them that you normally won't see and that's kind of you know the the feeling
that we want you know and uh you know the tech is important too you know no doubt but but at the end
of the day uh people just want to hang out and have a good time and that's really good at least
for me that's my main uh not objective makes it sound you know boring but you know i want people
to just like hang out have a good time so i was gonna say real quick um if uh you're gonna be
new this year coming out to tezcon um our it's the music is so prolific that the uh caterer got up and started singing last time
she just straight up left her food station walked over and started singing i think hash was was
playing playing something for her and that's that is tezcon right there like and she killed it so
i'm glad you brought that up no we hired her to
bring food but then it's like oh by the way i sing too i'm like oh really come join us and she
totally did you know and she was pretty good like and yeah no that was a moment last year
she was she wasn't pretty good she was very good okay let's real something and not only not only did
she sing she went up there because i was i was freestyle rapping and no one else even my friends
that rapped no one else was getting on the mic which was really frustrating but it's okay so i
was asking like does anyone else and she was there with her phone writing lyrics on her phone while i
was rapping and then when i would stop rapping she would sing the lyrics she like just wrote in that moment it was crazy she was totally she wrote that in real time yeah yeah it was amazing what
she was doing she honestly she was really she killed it she went up there i've never done something
like this before just like straight up improvised and wrote this stuff and was singing like she
she was a force oh man no I didn't give her enough credit.
But she's going to be there again this year, by the way.
Yeah, that's Chantel Jackson, by the way.
Good food, too.
Let's not discount the food.
The food was good, too.
Oh, man.
Amazing.
I had 20 deviled eggs.
You don't tell people that.
You just don't tell people that.
Anyway, Red, welcome to the stage
Welcome, welcome, how are you?
Are you coming this year?
Are you in the area?
It's in Seattle, correct?
Seattle
You're not doing it in Vancouver
Vancouver
No, no, Seattle
You know what?
I'm thinking about it
But hate to ask And Ryan Ryan it's nice to finally
talk to you on spaces for those who have been in my Tez spaces I have played your music as intro
and outro a couple times yeah I did not know that well it's okay now you now you know me and I get
to hear your voice too so it's it's great uh friend John of Tezos, he's the one that introduced me to you in the first place.
And he said you do so much for the music community.
I try.
Yeah.
No, but I mean.
He's humble.
He does a lot.
He's humble.
Yeah, you are.
And I hate to be annoying, but not really.
But I was wondering,
do you guys ever plan to do anything perhaps music
related like in los angeles i mean i know that nftla is probably too soon because that's literally
like what in a week or two so that's probably not happening this year for instance but are you in
l.a yeah i'm in l.. but also like i'm working on hosting some
gaming events and some of the some of the gaming companies that i've been in conversations with
are doing stuff where it's games that have gamified discovering music artists as part
of the whole gamification process okay and so like that's just becoming a more of a thing that's a shame
we should uh we should have connected while i was still there but um you were in la yeah i just moved
like a couple months ago yeah so i mean so so i mean okay so uh just just answer your question
um right now we're kind of focused on this event. And at least for me, I don't know what the others are thinking,
but this to me is like a test for future things to come
because I want to do this in a regular way somehow.
Because, yeah, I really do believe we need to do more in real life events
so since i'm living in seattle i'm probably gonna be uh focused on that for a little while but uh
i still have family and friends in la and going back down is not a big deal so we should definitely
talk about it.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't want to like annoy people in the room,
but yeah, we can talk about that offline.
And I don't want you to think
that I never plan to go to Seattle.
I'm just not entirely sure
if it's going to work out right now.
It is far.
Yeah, yeah, I understand.
That's not usually an issue.
It's just since I also work uh helping other people with some other events and i do work with some other blockchains you know
hint hints for people who don't know me i i i pretty much talk about a different blockchain
all the time so i have i'm i have alliances with more than just tes so sometimes you know the
planning that goes into some of these things i don't really always feel like I can always take off and do something else.
So I have to just get smarter with my with my calendar in general.
But that doesn't mean that, you know, that I've forgotten about Tezos, because for those of you who don't know me, all of my vocal music, it's all on Tez.
I don't have anything of me singing on any other blockchains except for Bitcoin.
But then again, I don't know if I ever want to go through that masochistic experience of putting something on ordinals again because that was truly painful.
Oh, OK.
Good to know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe don't do it unless unless you're like unless you really like compressing the living you know what out of your lives.
You know, artists can admit wherever they want, you know.
But I think we, for me, like, you know, kind of focus on this niche here.
And so, yeah, I mean, I don't know.
Like this is, like I said, we want, we're already talking about doing Tesco next year already.
So we want this to be a regular thing.
And, you know, if that involves maybe doing a small event or representing ourselves in LA or, you know, at least not that, not too far from here.
So it might be doable.
So, yeah, I don't know.
Happy you came up.
We connected.
I didn't know who you were until just now.
So, yeah, glad to have you here.
I don't know.
Glad to have you here, too.
Any, I don't know, Jake or Mark, do you have any Ash, any comments on that?
I mean, I'd love to see an event in LA, you know.
I also have family there and haven't been down there in a few years,
but I do love it.
And a lot of people that I know, you know, in the Texas community,
you know, are down there.
Yeah, they're there.
They're just kind of spread out.
I'm trying to get a Bay Area one going.
I'm trying to get a San Francisco one going personally because that's where I'm near.
But, yeah, it's not that far.
I can make it down to L.A. if we do that.
Yeah, so I run Tezos L.A., so you can follow at Tezos LA.
Yeah, we're going to have something later this month.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
But yeah, we'll get in touch after this.
Hi, Kevin.
How are you, buddy?
Hey, Kevin.
Thanks for coming up.
Yeah.
Are you doing okay?
You sound a little under the weather.
You got some allergies or something? No, I wasn't planning on coming up. Oh. doing okay? You sound a little under the weather. You got some allergies or something?
No, I wasn't planning on coming up.
I was like, yeah, like work or whatever.
But it's like people keep talking about Tesla.
It's like, okay.
What am I going to keep listening and not come up?
What would you do?
Appreciate it.
What would anyone do?
Kevin's the guy.
That's all.
Kevin's the guy you want to talk to if you're in la because he's very very active and it's tough you know it's tough like it's such a city that's
very spread out so getting people together in one place is uh a challenge but if uh if people want to do it i'll you know count me in i'll try to do what i can
and here's another thing that's sorry go ahead
i was gonna say i come for sure too count me in all right you got two people
from seattle willing to go already.
What are you going to say?
I don't know if it's terribly important, but it's definitely it is something to note that everybody thinks of L.A. for crypto. But here's a dirty little secret for you all.
And it's not really a dirty little secret because I'm saying it here on a recorded space.
The community in Orange County, they're coming out of the woodworks uh there's a
whole lot more people into crypto in orange county than i thought actually so i'm just saying
yeah you know it's it's still there you know the hype has down died down but there are still people interested in it uh not as
yeah so um you know that's kind of what we want to tap into right and uh i think the best way is
just to have these events you know people having a good time and it's really cool when people can
come all the way from like uk to seattle and come visit
like i hear i hear there's gonna be somebody in town maybe the beginning of uh may ish something
like that soon i don't know chris how are you sir welcome to the stage yeah i'm all right i'm all
right yeah i'm gonna be in um i'm going to be in atlanta on let me think, I think it's the 20,
I know I've got to switch GhostNet over to RioNet on the same day, so I've got to be fairly awake.
Yeah, 22nd, I'm in Atlanta, and then I'm going to be flying up to LA on the 23rd, so I think,
I don't know if I'm spoiling kevin's um speech just there but i think
kevin and i are going to be together probably on the 25th of april in la somewhere i don't know
but um i think probably in the afternoon you know it'll just be a very informal thing unless
someone else yeah so it'll be around that point in time are you guys
planning your calendar right now on this well yeah i mean i wasn't planning on like talking
about but like uh yeah but yeah there will be a more um yeah elaborate announcement to come
but we're out in the we're out watching baseball in the evening i'm afraid so it is the afternoon and then i am flying to seattle
uh let me see i'm flying to seattle i'm giving it my travel plans here it's very boring i'm flying
to seattle on the 28th um and i'll be basically i'm doing the last baseball tour oh well you got
to connect with these guys
while you're up in Seattle.
Absolutely.
You guys got to somehow meet up.
Yeah, so you've been to every baseball stadium
in the United States, and this will finish it off.
This will finish it off.
Also, we're doing Atlanta again
because they had the audacity to rebuild Atlanta.
Well, you got to go to the old one right so you're hitting i've done
i've done the i've done the old one you're just keeping it official it's not like that they've
done anything wrong it's the world moves on sir do we do we bend or do we not bend well we do move
on but you know oakland oakland is also a problem as well because they've moved up the road and you
can't get tickets they keep lying
and saying they want to move them to vegas what happens if that happens they are moving to vegas
so um when i was in oakland year before last and uh they had t-shirts i can't remember what was on
them but they were they were very anti-vegas but they're in a different stadium this year they're
not in oakland they've moved up a bit and then they're going to move to vegas
over next year or the year after but it's quite difficult to get tickets for oakland at the moment
yeah so yeah and then i'm also going to be in tezcon so i'm coming back to seattle for the
tezcon week oh where he's definitely going to do something with us. Yep. And then I'm
going to TESDEV. So I'm flying from
Seattle back to London,
getting a flight
directly down to Nice, and then doing TESCON.
Chris, thank you for doing all this, man.
This is insane how much travel you're doing,
for coming out and visiting and everything. This is insane.
Thank you. I mean, I do understand you are
taking advantage of getting to see some baseball,
but that's a lot of travel, man. Thank you.
Well, I am in the next couple of weeks, but not for TezCon.
So actually, I work for the Tezos Foundation and they're happy to support me coming to TezCon and flying me around.
So, yeah, I will be there on the company.
Looking forward to meeting you. you yeah it should be awesome uh because
i i do think even for us or even for a lot of the projects uh that we're working on it's
important for artists and the bakers to have closer relations i think and that's also one of the goals of putting on events like these.
Yeah, totally.
I can tell you the conversation
we had at the, we have a weekly
heads meeting with the executive
committee, so it was, yeah,
there was no question, just go.
Awesome.
Now,
Mark, is there a good
pastry shop around you
that could get some croissants, like legit croissants for Chris?
Because, I mean, let's be real.
If he's going to be there as a bakery,
we've got to have legit croissants.
Good ones.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, Bakery Nouveau.
And then maybe one day, can we get a box of burgers from Dick's?
I'm just, you know.
I mean, you know, these are the things that you need
to know. I was just there
yesterday. I did inspire you
to go. I did inspire you to go.
You started talking about
it. I'm like, that sounds good right
about now. For those who are not in the know,
Dick's is a burger joint that
is a Seattle
icon. It was a classic.
It was made fun of in a live variety show back in the 90s called Almost Live.
And one of the jokes was, the greasier the bag, the better the dicks.
So anyway, it's...
Their fries are pretty good, man.
I gotta admit.
They're good.
They're good.
It's a great model.
I mean, it's your old school walk-up drive-in.
It has that feel. You feel like they
pulled it right out of the 70s.
If you live in California,
it's like the in and out.
But dirtier. It feels
dirtier. It feels much dirtier.
I'd love it.
Can I
be contentious at this point?
I guess.
Oh my god, please. in san francisco i went to in and out i thought i didn't enjoy that and then i thought i've got to go back i've
got to go back to have a double double just to make sure that i don't enjoy it and you know what
my conclusion was i want to enjoy this
i'm gonna i'm gonna lay it on the line up five guys there i said it oh oh well five guys is on
a different level man five guys their whole model is you know we give you all the toppings you want
we won't charge you for it that's something that's unheard of in the burger industry we always charge
extra for toppings the five guys said no we't. That's why if you fear like a
burger contest for Five Guys, it's the place to go.
Also too, I mean...
In-N-Out's all about animal style.
You either like it or you don't. And if you like it,
you love it. And if you don't, it's
probably trashed you. All I have to say is
well done, Friis. You can't argue with me on that one.
I'm getting into it up here.
No, it's the Five Guys
is fresh. That's their whole thing
like you know they have five people working there at least uh it's more like three in the recession
but you know that how that goes they went for that like a kind of 50s style way of doing things
right but their whole thing has been free toppings that's their angle that's there i mean i don't what i mean generally
they'll just like give you the lettuce and tomato it's not like no anything like you throw it on
anything they offer they'll give it to you you want extra oh you mean like like the counter or
something yeah like those kind of like custom like sit down places where you got a menu yeah
that kind of thing okay yeah but five guys is
like the fast food version of that you get you get your bacon that's
formation anything you want on it we got we got five guys about ten minutes
from here in in where I live in Essex yeah they're popping up everywhere here
don't they locally source their materials too it It's all locally sourced from local farms.
That's kind of their business model too.
Yeah, I think they
do that here. I mean, they get them
from planet Earth.
Right, I'm just saying, some companies,
some franchises like to use a central
distribution network, and they don't necessarily
go local. Just saying.
By the way,
I should slip in also in defense of uh in and out
so the first time when i moved to la and everyone's talking about in and out i had
and this is going back i guess 20 years ago more than that oh my god uh anyway uh yeah i had so
like i go to in and out and i get like a cheeseburger that's what i asked for and i have i'm
like okay i don't get the whole point of the In-N-Out
thing.
Then everyone kept saying, no, double
animal style. That's what you're supposed to get.
Just go get...
Then I had it and it was really good and then I understood.
Yeah.
You've got to do it that way.
Same thing with the fries.
Until I got the animal style fries, it's like,
okay, I get it now.
Just get them well done. They're acceptable.
I can't even have regular fries now
that I have animal style fries.
If it's not sweet potato fries,
it's got to be animal style fries
or it's just a waste of time.
Sorry, what are animal style fries or it's just a waste of time so sorry what are animal style fries
it's a secret it's a secret secret menu like you're just supposed to it's so secret everybody
knows about it chris it's like it'siced grilled onions, I think, with what is it?
Is it extra cheese or sometimes not cheese in like a Thousand Island sauce?
It's cheese, Thousand Island sauce, grilled onions.
Yeah.
But it's not Thousand Island.
I don't know.
It's not Thousand.
Okay, it's their secret sauce that's like one half a degree off.
No, I think it's literally Thousand Island.
It's McDonald's. It's the secret I think it's literally Thousand Island. It's McDonald's.
It's the secret sauce that everyone suspects
is Thousand Island, but it's actually not.
It's that plus a bunch of other stuff.
A bunch of addictive
cancer-causing chemicals.
What's a burger sauce?
Such a ruiner.
Look, we know what we're talking about here.
This isn't like the, you know.
But yeah, like the In-N-Out burgers by themselves,
pretty mediocre, but with the grilled onions,
the sauce, the extra cheese,
it gets you into this extra savory grilled like casing that like,
again, without the animal style, I wouldn't go that hard for them.
Their fries also kind of okay, but animal style fries.
Oh, it's like, it takes you to the next
level yeah it also keeps it hot because like the fries they're fresh and the thing about those fresh
fries is if you don't eat them fresh they're just they're gonna lose you know it's a it's a very
short half-life therefore it's a you know goodness but um as unlike mcdonald's fries which are
that's the stuff that's cooked in, you know, substance from another universe,
which will keep it alive forever.
It'll keep it hot forever and whatever,
but they never buy a degrade.
But yeah,
but the animal plastic stuff,
they're made of plastic.
It's so hot.
Yeah.
And it comes together and it makes a nice,
you know,
the French have,
or I mean,
the French Canadians talk about, you know, poutine or i mean uh the uh french canadians talk about you know poutine
it's like i don't know man i'm not a big fan of some people call it cheese fries or um
yeah but it's like it's its own taste but poutine has curds they don't even have to like
cheat it's different curds are totally i'm not saying it's like that i'm just saying in terms of like a cultural uh emblem and uh how valued it is among so many like that's
it like it's such a staple thing like that's what it is for california people well southwest man
because it's kind of spread yeah now they're starting to spread they used to be very um
restrictive and they had like one
location in las vegas and that was like the big exception but now they've started to expand some
more basically i've got to go back is what you're saying you might have to i'm yeah i'm sorry to
now for all of you out there this was originally a show about tezcon and it will eventually be
about tezcon again but just right now we're talking about in and out and it will eventually be about TezCon again. But just right now,
we're talking about In-N-Out, and it kind of got
deep. And if you need to go get a burger,
I don't blame you.
I don't blame you.
It's performance art.
It's performance art.
You could go eat at Dick's if you're up in Seattle.
We've got
this option. If you're down in Texas,
I guess you've got Whataburger that you'll die on the hill for.
If you want, you know, a dick's is like a quick burger, right?
If you want a real one, there's plenty of places up here, too.
I'll say I will yield to Whataburger.
I will do that.
I don't know if that really, wow.
Yeah, above.
Like of all the franchise places I've had, like Whataburger,
there's something about it.
I mean, that's just.
Wow, that's deep.
I've never heard somebody pivot that hard off of In-N-Out so fast.
Wow, okay.
All right.
Well, there you have it, folks.
Always trying to ruin me.
Whataburger.
Always trying to ruin me.
If you don't know, What burger it's one of those texas chains where it's
uh you know if if you're from the south and you know what a burger and anybody talks crap about
it you just roll your eyes and say you don't know but uh i don't know i don't know that's all i can
say me neither i've never heard of it i hadn't heard about it till i moved down here and then i tried it and quite frankly i was surprised at how good it really was for what it was but i don't know man
okay i don't know i can honestly say i didn't know the the relevance of it because i didn't
i didn't know it existed until like i was driving through on this long road trip that i've never
taken before going through the southwest and it's like oh let's pull over okay what's here
Whataburger all right and then we always saw them but I remember from the first
time I was like oh my god this is like really good I hope there's there hope
there are more of these on our trip and every time I saw it I was like oh my god there's another one okay keep that in mind
i still didn't know how big it was until like i think until like spaces and clubhouse and it's
like when i like started talking to a lot of people from texas and then like oh so this really
is that big okay yeah it is i mean have you know what about taco time do you know about taco time
i feel like i've seen it but never had it so that's a pacific northwest staple they're huge
the seattle people will know taco time actually i've never tried it yet is it pretty good it
yeah it's great just get yourself one of the crisp burritos and you'll find out
what you've been missing out in life.
Man, I'm probably going to get one right now.
I told you I'm very easily into it.
Well, Taco Time, their Northwest Fresh is their tagline.
They locally source all their ingredients, obviously.
Oh, that sounds great.
I'm going to go.
Okay, I'll be.
I'm going.
Their Mexi Fries are like basically tater tots with taco seasoning,
but they're freaking addicting and delicious.
It's hard.
Actually, I lived in LA, and it's kind of hard to get a nice.
You said a hard shell taco, right?
Well, they have hard shell, but I'm just saying they have a crisp burrito.
They have crisp pinto burrito, crisp beef, crisp chicken.
Basically, they make these things
and then they deep fry them, and they're delicious.
Okay, I gotta try it.
Oh, yeah.
Bad for my health.
What is it? There's a guy from...
Now we're really off. Okay, I'm sorry.
This will be the last off-topic thing. We'll move back
to Tess kind of swear. We have Inza
up here, and I was so excited to meet her
last year, so I'd like to see what she has to share.
Tacos is a good segue
back into it. Sure, yeah.
Yeah, you know, it's
funny because I feel bad. I actually
want to talk about Tescon, and I feel
completely like, oh man, am I
just bringing the buzz down?
Perfect. Let's talk about Tescon.
I already brought it up. See, I did that. I did it.
Not you. Bring it.. See, I did that. I did it. Not you.
Okay. Bring it.
Enza was there last year.
Yeah, it was so good to meet you, Enza.
Welcome to the stage.
How the heck are you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I just wanted to share from my perspective of being at the event last year and, you know,
kind of the way it all came together with me because, you know, it was in basically all of the test tone calls and, and all of that formula. And I remember,
like the formation of this idea, right, was, was all of us were like, we, we need to meet one
another because we have this community of people and we're so disenfranchised, but, but we can do
this. And then Patty decided he was going to come over
from Ireland. Right. And then we're like, that's not right either though. How it happened originally
was Patty bought a ticket to just visit me out of nowhere. He said, Hey, I'm going to come from
Ireland. Let's hang out. I'm going to help you build your roof on the mountain. Cause your roof
leaks. He was going to help me fix my roof, guys, on the mountain.
And I said, shit, if you're flying all the way from Ireland, we should have a get together.
And let's do one in the Bay Area.
Okay, so now pick it up.
But Patty didn't buy a ticket because of it.
All this happened because he just bought a...
Like, that's why the date was locked in.
That's why we only had too much to plan.
It was because he bought a ticket randomly to come visit me.
And we're like, well, if he's here, that's when when we're gonna do it so that the date was squarely based and he didn't
even he wasn't even able to make it because he had a family emergency but the whole reason it
happened the catalyst which is the greatest thing right the one little and and don't get me wrong
a lot of things came together from that but the one thing that started it was patty just buying
a ticket on a whim to visit a friendship.
And then I remember it was just kind of like people were like, well, if Patty's going to come from Ireland, I can get my ass up there. And that was my vibe was, well, I'm in California.
I'm down in Southern California.
Seattle's not that far.
Because at first there was going to be like, there was even going to be two events, right? Like we're going to try and do a small one in Golden Gate Park and,
you know, kind of renegade that one and then drive up. And then, and then Toscon started
becoming like a two or three day thing where people were flying in and we got to hang out
at Fendel's place. And it was just like, yeah, no, we do not have the juice to try and do more
than that. And, um, it was like, you know, I think you guys spoke to it earlier about that feeling of meeting these people live.
And it was just kind of like, oh, it's you.
You know, there was no there was no like learning curve or even awkwardness.
It was just kind of like picking up a conversation you had online,
only now you could see what the person looked like. And I have to say there was one surprising
element I found when I first came into, you know, the group of people hanging out at Fendel's house.
The test tones are a particularly short group of people.
I don't know if anybody wanted to comment on that. I remember when we walked in the room
and we noticed like, oh, everybody's my size. And yeah, I'm like five, 10. And I was like,
by far one of the tallest people. It was, it was amazing to feel tall.
I felt like a giant. I'm five, 10. I felt like a giant.
Right. Like legitimately, I'm like five, nine and a half. And I was like, I am tall here.
Yeah. And then, and then, you know, once other people came in, we had, we had some, you know, bigger
people once we had the event.
So, so one shout out to, you know, the power of creativity, the power of people loving
up on one another in community.
And I think that spirit of, of loving to collaborate, you know, it's something that
I feel like Fendel's the ambassador of that spirit in terms of like, he collaborates with
everyone, you know, and he's such an amazing contribution and an open hearted, generous
soul with his, with his house and his, and, and all of it. And, you know, me thinking about coming up to this next event.
One of the things, I'm just curious in a couple of ways.
So I knew the last event we were highlighting like Test Tones artists
and some other invited people.
There was the promotion, not promotion,
but the highlighting of different artists and the NFTs that we had
going on and we had the live art, we had the food. Is there still, what kind of artists are
being invited to show their art? Is there going to be the same kind of a thing where we're going
to be able to see NFTs projected or, you know, how is all of that? How is all that looking in
this next one coming up
uh i know as far as the uh visuals go so the the main stage is going to be kind of for music
um and then we're going to get two projectors. There's two walls that are basically blank.
And we're going to showcase some of the visual artwork.
But I know that we were kind of talking about how music's going to kind of be the center of it all. So, I mean, that's part of why we ended up with the place that we did.
It's got a great stage great sound system
and this really cool organ yeah an organ it's got like 2000 the 2000 pipes it's historical
it's famous it's in history incredible yeah i saw some video of that it was they have a
they have a working player piano and just like you know really really
strange interesting stuff like that so is it so is there going to be any emphasis on the nft part
of it or how is it is it still connected to like the test tone thing or what what is is it it's
currently we're currently planning that okay okay so so you know, if you want to put in your input, we do have a, we're doing weekly meetings on Friday.
Oh, beautiful.
But I think, you know, we'll probably have a space for Chris to, you know, do his baking thing, right?
Okay.
We kind of want it to be conference-ish,
but more relaxed.
It'll just be a bunch of stuff happening in the space.
We want to keep it pretty casual.
I think we're in agreement.
You're not selling booth space?
Well, for $2,000,
you can have the honor
of a four-by-four.
So maybe get a little square
you can stand in that has your name
masking taped on the floor for a couple grand
if you want to, you know.
Yes, but that's for next year when we're more organized.
Oh, we can organize this in a week.
You know we can. Right, right.
Yeah, when we become desirable,
you know, and everyone wants
to be there. So that's the goal.
That'll be next year.
Ryan,
you and I are going to do a
small thing towards the
beginning. We're like, I think we kind of got the general outline set up like two weeks ago.
I missed the space last Friday, but we were kind of discussing putting Chris and us kind of towards the beginning before the majority of people show up.
And then having the main uh like time for food and uh music yeah
live music but the yeah the nf so for for at least i for nfts go i know that we're gonna um
kind of showcase uh the ta cafe and how it relates to Taya.art,
the rights contracts, and I will be, I'm not going to be selling anything,
I don't think, maybe I could,
but mostly it's going to be kind of showcasing some of the artwork that I bought
and purchased rights from and turned into, you know,
physical pieces to kind
of get people going oh like oh well okay i guess nfts can be more than just you know um
a digital piece of artwork and so um yeah i got some cool cool stuff coming i guess i guess we should talk about Tezos. But, okay, so I think this is like sort of a tentative format of what's happening on the day of.
So we kind of decided last week that the first half of the day will be, you know, more conference-y.
There'll be more, you know, if people, Chris is a good example, you know, he wanted to do like a baking workshop or a presentation of some sort.
So if you haven't been following me and Jake and Joe Simon, who's dev uh has have been working on a copyright registration feature
on taia not taia cafe but taia the community and uh so you'd be able to like as an artist set um
rights surrounding your mints regarding what people can and cannot use.
You know, so, so what Jake is doing is that he, he bought some rights from a few artists on Pezzos,
Para, Kyle Flemer, wasn't there one more uh I got a verbal agreement with
Uncle Brow Brow
but I want to get that
so basically
these artists
used our feature
basically said oh yeah
Jake you can make prints
my artwork.
Oh, and Scott.
Oh, and Scott too, yeah, Scott.
Scott is also a new core member of Taya, by the way.
We just brought him in last week.
Nice.
Yeah, him and Aaliyah Kay.
him and aliyah k but uh so so yeah uh the reason why we're using teya rather than my own company
is because i feel like the registration process needs to stay neutral and uh having that owned by
the dow i think is the best way to do it you you know? And so, so basically this,
this year's TESCON is,
will also double as sort of a trial run for that to happen,
like in the real world, so to speak, because Jake,
Jake is gonna, he's been working really, really hard, you know,
at, at kind of bringing these artworks to life, you know, something you could sell at a market or, you know, in a gallery or something that people can purchase, hold in their hand and take home, you know.
Do all that the proper way you need copyright.
And, you know, that's all.
That's kind of like what TizCon is for at least me.
Like it's also a chance for us to like showcase what we've been working on these past few years.
So, yeah.
So it's kind of moved away from the test tones, bringing the artist in and more into a different style of promoting the community of being able to get your art.
I mean, Taya Cafe is amazing what they're providing for artists and in the in the community.
And, you know, I love the idea of turning NFTs because, you know, one of the hardest things for people to do with an NFT is explain why it's
valuable and I love Jake taking this this kind of you know abstract concept and making something
concrete for so it's so for those who don't know like oh okay I get it this is something we can do
with it and I think all of that's brilliant oh Oh, no, thank you for that explanation.
Yeah, so we're hoping the light bulbs will turn on once they see these works.
Because I've seen a few samples and they look really great.
And we're hoping people will come and they'll see it and they'll want it.
And they just want to take it home with it.
And the blockchain is the means
of getting there you know and it'd be a good like proof of concept
i i would say too that i mean we we got space to do something for test tones as well and i mean the
live the live portion of it could be a good example. I mean, not just great music, but also an explainer, you know, to people.
Hey, there's kind of a, you know, this league of artists looking to compete.
We could also, I mean, we could use music to sell albums and, but yeah, you know will have to plan it right that's so i don't know if
you have any ideas like that uh it's still artworks that will be up there. And so there'll be that. But we're still fielding
But we're still fielding like art to be, we're still deciding on what kind of artworks will be displayed at the event itself.
So that's probably going to happen in the next month or two.
month or two it's still in progress you know but but we have this general idea that the first half
It's still in progress, you know.
of the day is going to be kind of more presentation and you know people walking around just checking
things out and the second half of the day will be more like uh you know events or performances and
events or performances and people doing stuff and of course the day after is an all-day music
event so if you want to perform or or showcase the music you know in some kind of way that
would be the day to do it but there'll be music everywhere all the time because that's what we want
well that's fun I mean to be fair
that's kind of what it's going to be all about
it's in a music hall so might as well take advantage
someone's going to be playing
someone's going to be playing something at all times
probably even if they're just messing around
on that
that sounds awesome
yeah we should let people play around on that. That sounds awesome.
Yeah.
We should let people play around on the organ.
It's just fun just to play around with.
Well, folks, I've had you up here for over an hour, and I don't normally like to keep my guests up that long.
Usually I reserve that for the community calls.
But thank you for answering all these questions. I'm sorry I kind of
bombarded you with questions right away, but I kind of
felt like it was
helpful.
Fendel, do you have a question?
Yeah, Ryan, did you want to tell them about the theme?
okay, I guess that's...
Yep.
Okay, I guess it's me.
I did not dox it right here
okay so we were last week we were kind of talking about okay well what helped is if we had a theme
for this year's event you know and we kind of settled on the phrase, the truth is out there.
So take it for what you want.
You know, you could interpret that in many different ways,
but that's kind of the direction we're going towards.
Are we talking like tubular bells, truth is out there?
It could be.
We want to keep it open to interpretation for now but uh because uh mighty boss needed something to work with to come up with
the posters you know and stuff like that so i'm like okay yeah well that sounds good all right
so folks keep that in mind the truth is out there if you
guys want to get the uh get the hype rolling you want to start making some tezcon tributes you want
to start pushing it a little bit you can start throwing that in there so that's a fun theme and
that's up to us totally up to us you don't have like like no no uh no chartreuse rule or something like that? We have not trademarked it yet, so go ahead.
Okay.
It's very much in the
style of Twin Peaks
gentle shout out
to Team Bigfoot
Sam Squanch's.
Sam Squanch's.
The local variety.
But yeah, so like kind of that
we've talked about
kind of the drippy moss
Pacific Northwest
you know, mythical
vibe, you know?
I like it.
I mean, there's a lot of that up in the Pacific Northwest, too.
There's a lot of it.
There's a lot of woods up there.
Mount Hood is weird.
All of those
places have their vibe,
for sure.
Weird. And you like to climb them. You're crazy.
I respect it, but you're crazy.
Yeah, well...
Yeah. Yes, I am.
So, there it is.
Crazy like a fox.
My climbing partner used to say
it's kind of like fun, but different.
I like it.
This guy is crazy.
He hiked the entire
west coast once.
Well, that's the crest.
Not the coast, but yeah.
Just the crest, you know, he says.
Yeah, just the crest.
But, you know, it's an important distinction.
Like, you know,
it goes past all of the
volcanoes all the way,
you know, from goes through past all of the volcanoes all the way, you know, from.
Just imagine someone walking from, you know, San Diego all the way up to Seattle.
Just imagine that.
But hiking the craziest mountains along the way, too.
I know.
And the hard path.
Well, let's just be fair, too.
It is a trail. It is well established. That doesn't mean that you can't disrespect wilderness, you know, and like get yourself injured or lost or something. That business is serious.
or not bring enough water um well you know again now it's like even even back when i did it some
Or not bring enough water?
years ago like there was definitely water you know on your map you knew exactly where the water was
before you were coming to it you know so you could plan your day around where to get the best water
and you had your choice you know know, a lot of times.
Sometimes you didn't, but mostly you do kind of, even in the desert.
Granted, there are a few angels who will drop water off for people, you know,
like in the middle of the Mojave and stuff.
It's intense, you know.
Flip your schedule, hike at night when it's nice and cool.
That way you're not pounding water
and wasting
energy and stuff. It's wild.
It's fun. We should go
do it and mint every day.
The fact that you think
it's fun is what makes you crazy.
You're crazy.
I definitely agree with you
that there's a definite
like crazy element about like wanting to be out there for weeks months and months at a time you
know but but like these are the i don't know man if you want that you know like something to be said
about turning off the noise and getting away from it all sir that does sound nice actually well you
know like that the that kind of minimalism
is really beautiful.
You know, like you don't have to decide
what you're going to wear, you know,
or like what you're going to do today.
You know, it's pretty obvious.
You know, you're going from here to here.
And like the thing is kind of like,
it's enjoyable that way you know um so
that minimalistic kind of lifestyle as it is temporary is is really joyous you know like
there's a lot of beautiful places to see you know on the entire california oregon washington
entire california oregon washington you know i bet it was gorgeous man oh man i mean i mean honestly
like the whole trip is amazing california has a definite like you know john muir you cannot beat
that of course and yellow third yellowstone and yosemite um i walked up to people in Yosemite and like asked them where,
where old faithful was just to fuck with them.
And like wandered around and like wandered around,
like looking like totally like haggard with my beard and like, you know, eating like
spooning Nutella and like asking people where the where the guys are was.
Anyway.
But yeah, like.
Yeah, California definitely has moments and Oregon is fast and has its moments, beautiful
places, Crater Lake and Mount Hood, of course.
And, but then Washington is pretty like, pretty awesome.
Actually the whole 400, whatever it is, 550.
It's about five weeks of walking and just to get it done.
There's not like a lot of like, you're just resupplying at basically the, the roads, you know,
and it's not like a ton of resupply in Washington. So you're just,
if you made it that far, you, you're going to like,
probably just finish it up. And, but it is beautiful.
All of the miles of washington state are bad ass like it is not it is no joke that hiking is
incredible even if you just took like a few days to like jump on the peace this is a vicarious trail
anywhere in washington state it would be like a killer you know um but i'm crazy i did the whole thing it was it was a joyous time i would
do it again in a heartbeat it's hard to like walk away for five months you know like yeah yeah that
is really difficult to be able to just step back and go do something like that but man i bet that
was rewarding oh my goodness man in so many ways and
if anybody wants to know more about that trip just hit me up i will send you there was an article done
in backpacker magazine which i'm part of the story it is not my story but i'm part of it and
and um it really is the kind of defining story of my experience and it is an incredible story
like maybe the one of the most amazing accomplishments on that trail you know since
it's been a trail um and um i don't know it was it was it was just incredible you know
and um i don't know it was it was it was just incredible you know um i met amazing people on
that trail and that's what made the the experience actually so special um without expectations of
course i'd went down there by myself but there's a lot of people that do the trail and you know
it's very highly permitted these days and
some things have changed you know in the last 10 years and i went and did another trail in 2015 and
i have plans to go hiking again i just i don't know gotta make time i'm too wrapped up in tezos
you guys well you know some some people i guess you know they have that magnetic pole that will
keep you from the things you love you gotta figure out a way how to combine your hiking with with the
blockchain mark that's your that's how you get it yeah um well i do kind of a lot of that stuff is
really inspired in my music anyway like like some of the sound design.
Even in the one that I just minted is some sound design that I collected from a friend of mine and from, I think it's Kameno Island.
Yeah, some coyotes that she recorded in Kameno, which is really nice.
Sounds of nature and things like that, right? It inspires
your work as well.
Definitely.
Definitely. I love
getting out there, even if it's, I mean, I don't
really, you know, these long distance hikes,
they're really wonderful and all, but
I don't know. I think that it's
just about, mostly it's about balance,
you know, if you like recreating
outside or whatever
so i'm out there so for for every hour outside do you have to like listen to
some sergio flores or something to balance out
oh my goodness well i at least have to write some music or something or turn on this record button
we have group i'm sorry oh go ahead no you didn't you're you're go go ahead no um in la where i'm at
one of the meetup groups that we have you know that's it's mostly web3 founders um they get together and they do a hike and after the hike then the meetup starts
but the the pre-thing is the hike and i'd actually like to see more kind of web three you know ai
groups kind of combining like pre-hike and then we do the meetup so i don't know just a thought
you know it can be done. It is possible.
I mean, we're kind of doing that for TezCon, aren't we?
Actually, yeah.
I thought I'd mention.
Yeah. I think that's a great idea. Yeah, thanks for bringing that up.
He's going to make you hike
before you're allowed inside.
You mean I may have to get you?
No, I don't know. Dude, I'm flying
Frontier. They don't let me carry my...
No, I'm kidding, dude.
We'll figure it out.
I'm excited.
If you go to Mark's tour the day before,
he will airdrop you a token,
which will allow you inside Kenyon Hall the following day.
That's how it's going to work.
Some PO-ops.
Is it two halves?
You have to start and finish?
You know? Like, it's not just to
show up and get to go. You gotta finish it.
Ah, yeah, well, we'll talk about
that at the next meeting.
Did we mention if the event costs money?
Or is it free? It is free.
What event?
It's free. I'm gonna say it louder.
It's free. I'm going to say it louder. It's free.
Wonderful.
Free all day.
I think we're going to do a suggested donation thing
because
when it's
free, it allows us to market
locally to
places that want to promote that.
Like dicks?
Dicks.
Well, it's very nice that specifically our little local West Seattle blog
will put us on the calendar if the event
is free to the community.
And that's a big deal.
Everybody who lives there.
Oh, that's huge, man. Community events over there?
And that has reach, man.
A lot of periodicals don't. That has reach.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's deep.
Everybody here will read the West Seattle blog.
It's like part of it.
We're going to be better about marketing
and getting the word out this time as well.
So we didn't have much time last year.
You guys did amazing for what it was, man.
I was impressed.
We had walk-ins coming off the street
trying to check out what Tezos was, asking questions.
It was really cool.
So that was amazing.
You guys did great last year.
Don't discount it.
Quit trying to. Quit making up excuses for why it wasn't the perfect
imagination town that lives in your brain.
Knock it off.
Artist.
Love you.
we learned something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We did learn.
Yeah.
of course.
You know,
that one,
how,
how would you know unless you did,
did it?
Like,
so I don't beat myself up about some of the
things that didn't work out you know that's fair that's not really bad we're not feeling bad about
we're just like yeah i wish i wish that thing worked you know so we'll just make sure that it
works up front this time right yeah well this time we're I think the lesson was that we need to take more control of the process.
So we left too many things up to the museum and things didn't work out.
I won't get into details, but so this time we're providing all our own equipment or at least making sure that they have everything in order.
You know, That's fair.
Kenyon Hall has been around for a long time,
and their crew and their equipment we know works.
So, yeah, it should be a lot more smoother this time, at least for us.
You know, you probably would never know.
From the outside it
looks smooth as silk man it was great and i know like there were probably like 99 fires and only
one thing going right at any given time but bro they did not look that way
even more we got a professional audio engineer this time too yep well that's that's good yep we'll be having documentation video projection uh oh wait i
noticed uh malicious is here yeah mouse snuck up and i forgot to say hi i'm sorry mal hello hi
no fear you guys are having a grand time i I'm enjoying myself. Hey, do you want to talk about the TEA curation?
Since you're here?
This year's or last year's?
This year's. I know you were putting together something with Stu.
Yeah.
So we're putting together last year's documentation of the Tezcon still, which will be released soon. And then for this year, we are going to be assembling something or other, but we haven't quite decided on that yet. So we shall see But thought It might be helpful for us to incorporate
That into the Teya Rave
Festivities as well
In some way
Oh yeah
I advertise your rave
Wait
Mid April 15th?
Mid April is what we're going with currently
Why does that
Oh it's tax day I'm like why does that day
immediately make me cringe why
okay thank you
don't remind me I still haven't done mine
you said April 15th and I literally
it was like somebody like came up behind me
with a knife you know like my hair is on the back
of my neck stood up and I immediately got into
defensive mode I'm like why is that obviously you haven't done yours yet oh i'm
blessed i have i have an amazing partner who who takes care of that if i got involved in it i would
ruin it and last time i touched the taxes we went from like getting money back to like owing several
hundred so we had to start over i don't touch it i'm i'm bad at taxes apparently okay well uh there will be a teya something or the other at tescon
something or the other yeah i know i know these folks they'll they'll they'll come up with something
amazing so yeah we will be having uh something as related to our curatorial guidelines, though,
which for folks who don't know,
the Culture and Equity Guild of TEA developed guidelines,
which aims to do specific outreach to some of the equity-deserving communities
within our broader community.
So that's women and non-binary, 2SLGBTQIA+,
racialized folks, Global South, and kind folks,
AKA chronically ill, immunocompromised,
neurodivergent, and disabled.
So that there is representation
from the wonderful diversity that we have,
trying to get a global reach, all of that good stuff.
So, and that has been successful for us so far,
so we're going to keep it up.
Seattle's going to be a great place to do that, too.
Yeah, that type of messaging will play very well here.
Yes, it will.
Yeah, no, Taya's gotten quite good at curating after tizpo you know yeah
trial by
everything got overshadowed by the poll but the the i was there because of hey uh you know they put on
this uh curated collection of artworks uh was basically decided democratically, you know?
And I don't know, you know,
how often does that happen, right?
So, but kind of in the same vein,
they've kind of done it regularly
and it seems like, you know,
it's gotten pretty streamlined.
So we want something.
So last year we did something similar,
which was showcased at PISCON.
And yeah, this year it will be the same.
Now, are you going to be coming, Mal?
No, you might be too far out i believe you're
you're out east i i am in canada and i am immunocompromised so i can't go anywhere oh
you can't travel that's rough yeah can't do nothing but we'll have a live stream there
yeah we'll figure it out you can i'll try to make it entertaining for you. I'm sorry. Yeah, there's a chance
that it might be Blanks himself doing it,
but we've got to talk about it a little bit more.
Yeah, I'd love to.
But yeah, you guys, dude,
thank you so much for today.
I've had you up here for an hour and a half.
I don't normally hold you guys up here this long,
and I do thank you for doing that.
I guess it might be easier since there's a gang of you.
But I do want to say thanks to you guys for all coming up um is there anything else that we should
probably come over uh cover or uh talk about before we uh wrap this thing up yeah mal mal can
i just ask you like what you think if you were to watch tezcon like what would you like to see most?
Music sessions I think would be great.
Tours, like walking tours
of gallery spaces would also be great.
Yeah, and just like hangout sessions too.
Like that would also be nice.
Like being a fly on the wall
and even better if you can have like interactions so having um like a multi-screen thing i've done this before with
some of my disability justice groups where some folks have gone to a park and they've brought
along a bunch of people and we all like tour around in a zoom meeting or whatever with them
and then we can still all interact together and enjoy the scene
and all of that fun stuff.
The feeling of being there, yeah.
Yeah.
I haven't left even home
in five years.
My range is all
up. So I am definitely
appreciative of all of you.
Well, we'll
try to bring you to us. If only there was
some way to VR you into the space,
that would be hilarious and awesome.
Yes.
One day.
We kept saying I was going to put Pato
on a Roomba on Zoom and just
waddle around, put a broom on it.
That would be hilarious
if we actually run into
and that's your experience.
Yeah.
Great.
We should totally do that.
Also, hey, Mal, lovely to hear your voice.
Hope you're having a good day.
Yeah, lovely to hear your voice, too.
And I am.
The Roomba thing is such a Tesla thing to do, though.
It's such a Tesla's thing to do, though.
We should make it happen.
Put a little speaker on it
so that they can yell at people
as they're running around.
Yeah.
You know, like, have fun.
Hey, hey, it's me.
You know, like, and then, yeah,
you could charge them to run the Roomba.
That could be like a little, like, experiment.
Anyway, sorry.
We need to talk more.
Maybe we need to schedule, like, multiple meetings.
Anyway, this has been awesome
is there anything else we should go over before we
wrap this up
I will do a shameless plug
please shamelessly plug
this is the opportunity please
alright I'm going to throw it up
I created a mega thread
it is 23 slides long
of all the things
Taya related for updates for anybody who is unaware of them.
It was lovely to craft. It took me several months. It is now out of my brain.
It looks a real thing.
Now I can work on other things because it's no longer picking away at me.
Thank you so much. Thank you so much for hearing that.
It's a really good thread. If you haven't read it, is it pinned?
I don't know if it's pinned, but you should pin it.
I have attempted to pin it, so we'll see if it shows up.
And if not, always reply
as opposed, and then it's left forever on the space.
Don't forget that.
The nest itself does not
like to retain
for next,
like the people listening
afterwards.
Your posting onto the space also will help
memorialize it forever.
I've now done both. Perfect.
We will print one of those out
for the event as well.
Can we make it go all the way around
the room like
an Escher print?
A giant banner?
Yeah, like a huge banner.
I think it's doable. Maybe. like sort of like an escher print you know like what if his men giant banner yeah like a huge banner i
Think it's doable
And download hi, yes, yes, it is hash your mic is working
Cool, sorry. Just my phone's kind of glitching right now
While we're on shameless plugs real quick. We do
We're in the middle of planning tez tones season three We just had a little meeting today and we're going to have a bigger
meeting again next Tuesday at 11
a.m. Pacific time just to kind of
plan the schedule and the start of
the season and the format of it all. So
a little shameless plug there.
And also, I've been vlogging and
mincing them all on Taya every day. I'm at like
33 or something.
Is your shaving video still
your top views?
It's weird what people are into, man.
I guess watching you, it might be
satisfying to watch you shave. It might just be
one of those things that hits the...
Lots of people.
Yeah, it could be. It could be one of those things.
I don't know. Randomly, the
microphone did pick it up pretty good. I noticed that later.
I was like, oh, it is a randomly satisfying
shaving sound. It's just
a weird world. We don't need to pick it
apart. Nothing wrong with it, man. If you
can meet up with, identify
and relate to and make friends with those people,
man, more power to you. I love you for it.
Nothing wrong with the LASMR.
Yeah, very good.
Thanks for having us up.
Shout out TezCon.
Shout out everyone.
And appreciate you, Blings, for rolling through and giving us coins last year.
I don't know if anyone mentioned that, but that was my highlight,
was stepping in and getting handed a piece of physical memorabilia for TezCon. So I still have the ones that I need to send out.
I still have Paros.
I have some that need to go out.
Oh, also, Blings, I don't know if I ever told you this,
but I found a way I to go out. Oh, also Blanks, I don't know if I ever told you this, but I found a way
I taped that to a
button, and all of the
Teztone season that I was casting,
or third match on,
it was actually a button pinned to my
little jacket.
Oh, I love that, man.
I love that.
I have a feeling
we'll probably do something similar.
I'll probably put in an order for more,
but once they're gone, they're gone.
But yeah, I'll probably do something similar.
Those were a blast to hand out.
I don't know.
It's always fun to have a little piece of history in your pocket
that actually has weight.
I don't know.
I like tchotchkes.
I'm like a kid. I'm like a kid.
I'm like a kid.
No, I have physical Dogecoins
from back in the day
that is still treasure.
Well,
yeah,
it's like you said,
in person, man,
in person meetups,
physical coins,
these things,
they add depth and meaning
and sensory interaction
for our brains.
I don't know. When they tell you to remember something, rote memorization just doesn't work, repeating
something over and over again. It's incorporating all of the elements of your senses. It's the
smell, the taste, the color, the sound. You put all that together, you create an image
in your mind of all those. You'll never forget it. Let's do that with TezCon, folks. What do you say?
Assault the senses.
The truth
is out there, folks.
The truth is out there.
And it is in Seattle.
And it's in Seattle and it's in June.
In June.
In June.
Starting around, we don't know yet. But June 28th. We'll have official times. Come join the Well, yeah, starting around.
We don't know yet, but, you know, June 28th.
We'll have official times.
Come join the Discord if you want to get involved, if you want to come say hi, if you want to just join the community and figure out what's going on.
We invite you to come join the Discord.
If you have any questions, if you want to suggest things, if you have some art you want to show, come to the Discord.
That's going to sort of be our little point of
contact, right?
Yes. Actually,
did you post a link to the Discord?
We should post a link to the Discord. I usually rely on
my cohort here, Mr. Kryptonio,
who silently handles all the hard
heavy lifting. I am bad at that.
But we'll figure it out, and I'm sure
it'll be there.
But yeah, come join the Discord.
I do know that
I'm there.
So, you know.
You are.
I am there.
We were talking about something weird, though, today.
Were you? I didn't notice.
I didn't notice.
But that's in the private channel, so you don't have to look at that.
Oh, the virus that's making people forget 80s rock bands?
Yeah, nobody knows the cure.
Something like that, yeah.
No, anyway, guys, this has been an amazing episode of Tuesday, Tese.
Thank you so much.
Huge thanks to everybody who came up today.
I mean, Mark, Ryan, Jake, Cash, Brown.
Thank you for having us.
Dude, Mal, Red, thank you. Thank you all having us. Dude, Mal, Red, thank you.
Thank you all.
Even Kevin came up for a minute.
That was amazing.
And then Chris stopped by.
So thank you, guys.
This has just been a blast.
So if you're planning to be in Seattle this June,
this is shaping up to be a weekend full of music, art,
and real connections.
And a great opportunity to get to know the people behind these projects.
So before we go, just a quick reminder. If you know the people behind these projects so before we go
just a quick reminder if you know someone doing great work in the tezos community you guys are
doing shameless plugs my turn whether it's building teaching organizing or creating consider
nominating them for the tezos community rewards program at tezos comments.org slash rewards
and we'll be back next tuesday so until then stay curious stay involved and we'll be back next Tuesday. So until then, stay curious, stay involved, and we'll catch you next time.
