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Tuesday | TezDay - Tezos Community Call
Recorded: July 8, 2025 Duration: 1:48:24Space Recording
Short Summary
The recent discussions surrounding TezCon and TezDev highlighted significant trends and growth opportunities within the Tezos ecosystem, including the launch of innovative projects like 'Justice,' a new JavaScript-based smart roll-up, and the excitement around the upcoming multiplayer game 'Reaper Actual.' Community engagement continues to rise, with initiatives like the Tezos Community Rewards Program and a focus on inclusivity through events celebrating disability pride.
Full Transcription
Hello.
Hello.
Welcome back to another Tuesday Tez Day.
I'm Blangs, joined by Kryptonio.
And tonight we're diving into a community called Fresh
off two major Tezos events, TezCon and TezDev.
We're guessing a lot of you are buzzing from all the things that went down, so tonight's
the perfect time to reflect, share your experiences, and chat about everything you saw, heard,
or build connections around.
We've got an open mic, so feel free to request and jump in anytime.
But first, let's briefly recap a couple of highlights.
The latest article of the month is now up on news.tezescomments.org. And as always, it's powered by community nominations using the hashtag TezArticleTag on X.
This month's Spotlight features five artists
bringing totally different styles and moods
into the Tezos art space.
We've got cinematic storytelling
from photographer and filmmaker Met Arslan,
surreal visual poetry by Nur Art,
award-winning illustrations from Mason Maytag Art,
moody grayscale narratives from Graffiti on Grave,
and experimental 3D works from Enigma Atelier.
And that blends architecture, animation, and sound design.
Whether it's quiet introspection, raw emotion, or wild dreamscapes,
each of these artists is pushing their own lane
while contributing to the broader creative energy on Tezos.
The full write-up is on news.tezoscomments.org,
and if you want to help someone get featured next month,
just tag their work with hashtag TezArticle.
It only takes a second, but it really helps bring more eyes to artists doing great work.
There's a new piece on Spotlight.tezos.com,
breaking down what might be one of the biggest developer-friendly
updates Tezos has ever shipped.
Justice.
Justice is a new JavaScript-based smart roll-up that lets developers build directly on Tezos
using real, full JavaScript.
full javascript not a stripped down version or custom dialect if you've ever written a node app
Not a stripped-down version or custom dialect.
or worked with npm packages you already know how to build with justice the article highlights how
this changes the game instead of forcing devs to learn new stacks or unfamiliar tools tezos is
meeting them where they are it's fast to get get started, it's flexible, and it runs
on Tezos smart roll-ups, which means it still benefits from the layer one security and governance.
It's a major accessibility play, especially for the 20 million JavaScript devs who've mostly been
kept on the sidelines. Whether you're building dApps, services, or prototypes,
Justice is all about getting ideas live without the heavy lift.
Full breakdown on spotlight.tezos.com,
and the sandbox is already live if you want to give it a try.
If you're trying to keep up with everything going on in Tezos
but don't have hours to scroll every day, check out the Baking Sheet.
It's a weekly email that brings you Tezos news, standout updates, and project highlights in one place.
No noise, no spam. Subscribe at bakingsheet.tezoscommons.org.
Also, just a quick reminder about the Tezos Community Rewards Program.
It's a great way to shout out the folks doing the work behind the scenes.
If you see someone building, helping out, or just making the space better,
nominate them at TezosCommons.org slash rewards
or tag their post with hashtag TezosCRP.
It takes a second and it helps the right people get the credit they've earned.
All right, that's just scratching the surface.
Now let's open it up.
TezCon and TezDev are fresh in everyone's minds.
And we'd love to hear from you directly.
Whether you attended, spoke, performed, built something, or simply followed along online,
jump up and share your takeaways, your highlights, or your questions.
And I see Bill has joined us.
Bill, how the heck are you?
You were with us.
That was awesome to see you again.
How the heck are you doing, sir?
The goat is here baby oh man nice that was i'm telling you i'm shitting it's all cotton blames well that's thank you so much for popping the clutch and bringing me back to my swanky bachelor
pad and uh the story i told you uh that you wanted me to repeat, I'm sure
was a whopper, but I guarantee it was true.
Anyways, I just want to tell you how much I appreciate you and everybody here who's
holding the space.
And I'm very excited because I actually got here on time and yeah, looking forward to the journey here.
I've, let's see, I finished another painting.
I got, I'm just about to put one more coat of varnish on it.
It's called the deep end.
And it reflects on, I grew up swimming and all that stuff,
swim team, diving and all that stuff.
And at the deep end, I'd go all the way down that stuff and at the deep end I'd
go all the way down to the bottom the deep end and look up with the sky and I
felt like so much peace so I'm finishing that painting and then I just purchased
some new items it's a 11 inch by 14 inch black panel canvas so it's not on stretch canvas so uh yeah i got a shitload
of that so you know that way people can throw it on their suitcase faster you know what i'm saying
i gotcha no i'm just trying a different you know trying something different i was kind of pissed when i got it i was all docked up and ready to ship it back and i thought well i'm up i'm open but uh yeah i had a
great time at tescon uh life-changing first time i was able to have my art shown and uh you know
smoke a joint and drink a enjoying glass of wine and eat pizza
because every time i've been in art environment you know it was because i was a homeless
bum okay and you know you can't drink You can't pick your nose.
You can't wear a shy 10 1⁄2 shoe.
So all that, I'm fucked.
You see what I'm saying?
So yeah, when I got to TezCon, I joined the company.
I sold some actual paintings.
A friend of mine came.
Her name is Pastor Christy.
And she knew me when I was homeless in 2007 because there's a little church at the bottom of the Compass Center, which is a homeless place.
Right. And she came with another retired pastor, Lutheran.
I'm Lutheran this week. I'm documented Roman Catholic, but you know, hey,
that's a whole other show. I don't want to delay. But anyway, she came and she had a wonderful time.
And as she was leaving, Jake was serving that delicious rosé. So I had a fucking fantastic
time. And yeah, the after parties and everybody's showing up and uh yeah it was just a fucking joy
man and uh thanks to my brother herbie like i mentioned probably a few blinks who passed away
and left me that cash you know so now uh actually tomorrow i money in uh you know march 2012. but uh yeah he it was funny
because he and i were not close you know at all but he left me some cash and here i am folks
producing art and loving the dream thank you so much blinks, it was a pleasure, man. It was so good to see you again, man.
You have some of the most, I guess the word would be like compelling stories I've ever heard in my life.
And I do appreciate you sharing some of those with all of us.
I mean, they're personal and probably not appropriate for this stage.
But Lord knows, man, you have a lot of them and you've come through a lot.
So I appreciate you being there, man. it was really good to see you once again because i know man getting to know you
last time was just kind of like wow this is bill knight and then uh this year was just awesome to
see you again man so uh kryptonio my man i haven't even like had a chance to like say hey i mean i
said you're here but then how are you are you you know
everything's good on your end right everything's glorious right oh yeah oh yeah everything is
perfect hi hi hi hello and uh no seriously though man uh the stuff that we saw you know the last two
weeks i think were pretty pretty exciting we had test when we had test dev obviously the elephant in the room
reaper actual and yeah man i don't know so many things to be excited about uh i heard i wasn't
there but i heard that the vibes at test con were super super super fun a lot of collaborative
spirit a lot of like i don't know like uh like a friends gathering you
know what i mean well i mean a big friends gathering if ryan wasn't up here to defend
himself he could you know say something about him being this task monger and just forcing all of us
to work so hard and we had all these responsibilities and like and it had to be perfect like if we didn't do exactly what ryan said
we uh we were gonna get yelled at and scolded and and he was gonna take away our food even he
threatened to like not feed us he said i'll send you to bed without food if you don't do exactly
what no ryan was amazing yeah no that sounds right like ryan for sure right i mean i if he was up
here he could explain it better.
But I mean, I think that was sort of in a nutshell what everybody's experienced.
No, I'm kidding.
That was Ryan was so awesome to work with.
Jokes aside, what was, because you were there, you know, and you were there before, you were there after.
So, like, what was your favorite moment of this one?
If you could pick one, I know there must be many, but if you could pick one, what was your favorite moment of this one? If you could pick one, I know there must be many,
but if you could pick one, what was your favorite moment
or a highlight, something that got you pumped?
So, I mean, we did a lot of stuff.
I mean, we went all over the city.
Mark showed us some great stuff.
Ryan met up with us for all of it.
It was awesome.
It was really wild to be there.
But the one moment that probably
was like the wow moment
when we went live right at
the beginning when it opened up
and we started with that X space
and it's still
people frantically running around doing sound
checks. I had Murph coming up
to me right in the middle of the intro to the show
and I'm looking at him like, not right now, man.
I don't know. It was like everything was happening it was all getting started it wasn't going perfect but it was going and at that point it was just i don't know there was this piece that
kind of washed over me like didn't really matter what happened at that point it was going to be
good uh we did what we could i felt like we put it in oh yeah no at that point
you have to just enjoy it man you know yeah that was my moment right then i think yeah yeah
how about for you man i know you you had some bumps um you mean uh what do you mean
yeah i mean right beforehand you you ate some bad salad or something right oh yeah oh yeah i had that as well thankfully i went there like a few days earlier and so
it was two days before tesla i think and i ate probably breakfast it was a breakfast i think
some eggs french eggs we got yeah it didn't go that well that whole day was uh in the hotel
we got slave driver ryan on the stage welcome welcome did you bring your four whips that you
used to beat us all down sir how are you yeah it was quite an ordeal keeping you guys in line right
i think we just needed your permission to go do what we needed to do that
was the most beautiful you did really well man like there was oh thank you it was good it was
good how did how did you feel it went man well you know um you know like most things there are
some things that went well some things that didn't come through you know like the the food for example since you were talking about it was kind of a last-minute thing you know but I mean you know overall I went
as good as we could have hoped so yeah pretty pretty happy with it that pizza
was really good by the way I know it uh probably not the ideal but at the same time i don't you know
you know that was uh um my brother's girlfriend's idea so uh yeah so so we had some issues with the
food so we need to kind of we were kind of scrambling you know to like kind of uh find another um uh vendor for it but you know because but it happened
so yeah luckily the food was good that food was amazing there was like none left that's how good
it was yeah i i was surprised we had to order twice because um the first round it was gone in like 15 minutes you know so i should i
should i expect it as much you know when you have a bunch of uh hungry artists straight at that event
you know for next year for next time actually not next year yeah i mean the, the big thing really is we want to do it more often, right?
That was kind of the talk afterwards.
So we're starting meetings this week again to see what our options are.
And that's something, you know, like I've always wanted the goal really for moving up here in a way for me was,
um, you know, I kind of wanted to have a physical presence, right.
More, more frequently.
Cause I think it's really important to have like face to face, uh, conversations,
you know, and like, and some people who showed up are really into it, you know,
And some people who showed up are really into it, you know?
Oh, yeah, that lady from the Nature Conservancy, right?
That was amazing, right?
Like.
Yeah, that was wild.
I explained that to people and they tried to explain to me what happened, which is really funny.
Yeah, so it was like kind of a validation in a way.
Yeah, so it was like kind of a validation in a way because I had this like gut feeling that, you know, people around here might be into what we're doing here, you know, on Tizzles.
So, and the fact that that person exists was like, whoa, okay, you know, yeah yeah so it gives me hope you know and then um yeah there's this other guy
who kind of came in was curious about the whole oh what are you guys doing i never heard of teslos
you know and and so he had no preconceptions but but he ended up staying for like almost four hours
you know he was such having having such a good time.
We want to just do more
of that.
I think if we can reach out to people,
they will resonate.
There is something to be said
about physically seeing somebody
in front of you, especially when we're talking
about something like this where maybe it's
tough to specifically articulate exactly why you have the passion.
But when they're watching you just pouring out how much you love it,
it's pretty tough to deny. Yeah, and you know, the music
helps as well, right? The music and art, and just being
there. That sound was amazing. I wasn't lying when I said we
were blessed to have Murph there, man.
Oh my goodness. Oh yeah?
Yeah, I didn't have time to look at it,
but like the
spaces and the stream went okay.
So yeah,
we figured out what happened, why
we were losing sound and a few other things.
My setup is not exactly set up to
pick up hot lines straight off
mixers, but I have a solution that actually looks like it'll work really good.
Next time we've got to do this, I can just pump it right in,
and I can directly stream off it too.
Oh, cool.
Yeah, so we can have just everything hooked all together.
But anyway, that's beside the point.
That's for the meeting on Sunday.
Anybody want to join?
There's a committee forming to maybe put something
like this on again soon.
So yeah, if you want to, I don't know,
get involved with the organization,
you don't even have to live here really.
If you just want to stay in the loop, that's welcome also.
So how were the live stages the shows the panels and maybe maybe maybe ask you i know
that you also played the piano ryan i saw some videos it was great but yeah is there a full is
there like a recording of the full thing because i got i haven't seen one yet but i've seen you know snippets here and there
yeah bits bits has a the first four or five minutes of it and it's actually pretty nice
but uh i don't know i'll look around it's probably somewhere yeah it was nice too was there a
highlight for you maybe something that you know well playing was a big thing it was like a big deal for me because uh i haven't really had like
a proper performance you know since uh before the pandemic i've done like you know um open mic
nights you know here and there but you know it's really there, but you know, it's really, it's really, really
short and it's not really, uh, you know, I'm not have time to do like a full performance.
So I don't know, it was nice.
Just feel like, like a lot of things got unstuck.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe it's an artist thing, but like when you, when you do a yeah maybe it's an artist thing but like when you when you do a
performance it's like uh i don't know puts things into perspective you know yeah like would you
would you say that i needed that you know oh yeah because i was because it's been so long i'm like
hey uh hey i know i still know how to do this.
Your mom looked at me and gave me this look.
I know the look because my mom's Japanese.
She goes,
he's performing tonight.
What?
That's what she said.
She gave me the look and just said that.
I'm like, okay.
I pretend to be like, I don't know what that means, but you know, you and I both know what that means.
Like, this is a big deal. Like what's going on. She's still trying to figure it all out, man.
Oh yeah.
You know what I mean? Like, this is weird.
You know what I mean?
I think about, oh, it's been a while. I don't even remember. Maybe like five, ten years ago.
it's been a while I don't even remember maybe like five ten years ago um she started saying
regularly like I don't know you know yeah for a long time she has no idea what I'm doing or what
I'm trying to do or what am I about you know she's they're not my parents aren't really art people
right like they they have like fairly job. My mom's a teacher.
My dad's an engineer.
Oh, that explains it. My mom's a teacher
too. So I mean, when she said it,
the way she said it, the way she pursed her lips
and raised the eyebrows and gave me the look.
I know that look.
She's the people person, right?
But yeah, you know and but but despite all that you know i meanwhile
i'm making all those weird like um experimental music right and um yeah she was like a asian
you know typical asian pairing just want wanted me to learn the piano because it's good for you or something right
but yeah because you're going to be a doctor right and a lawyer well i mean uh she wasn't
really like that but but i took the whole piano thing to a level which i don't think
you know they they really understood right it was it was beyond just liking it.
I made it my whole life and part of my whole identity.
So, yeah, it was kind of a big thing for me.
Your mom recognized it was a big thing.
I mean, that was why she made a comment about it.
If it wasn't a big deal, she wouldn't have said anything then.
You know what I mean?
Oh, yeah, I know. a big deal she wouldn't have said anything then you know what i mean oh yeah i know but but i'm lucky because she's very supportive despite the fact that she doesn't really understand you know what i mean so isn't that isn't that your real friends and your real family that's what they do
though yeah yeah and that kind of what we all do here in Tezos, too? Yeah, you know, I don't know what you're trying to do, but I like the fact that you care, so I want to support that, right? That kind of thing.
I love it. That's a great attitude.
I want to welcome malicious sheep to the stage. I'm about to be outdone by the most beautiful voice in Tezos. How are you doing?
I am fabulous. How are you?
Hey, Mal.
I am well, thank you for asking.
Hey, Mal.
Hello, hello.
I came to stop by, see what everybody's up to.
I saw some amazing looking food coming from your world.
It looked absolutely delicious.
Not that I'm spying, but I do like my food.
This is true. I dream of recipes, and then I wake up and make them. And that was one of them,
the most recent one. So I'm glad it was at least visually enjoyed. I enjoyed it a lot.
I made it. I devoured it with my eyes. That's all I can say.
Yeah, it was good fun. I got to use one of my favorite plants in existence which is lamb's
quarters which is the most nutritionally dense plant in north america it was wonderful
so uh anything you're working on mal anything else other than like coming up with these
recipes and making me hungry uh all of my. All of the spaces all of the time.
My pinned tweet has those.
I'm also doing video game streams of retro video games.
If you want to get involved in that, you can subscribe to my saints.app for tier one, three tezos.
Or you can send me three tezos directly if that's not working for you.
And I will send you the link.
And there is an upcoming
event I have to finish the poster for and make an announcement about, but I'll tell you all here.
Kind Pride, C-I-N-D, chronically ill, immunocompromised, neurodivergent, and disabled,
because it is Disability Bride Month. And so we're going to celebrate with some kind artists
minting some stuff. And everybody is also welcome to join in.
Even if you're not a kind artist, you can still mint for the event.
We ask that you, not required, but ask if you feel up to it,
to fundraise with your work for the Fountain and the Equity DAO Multisig.
And to consider the concept of disability pride, or even just, you know,
look into the concept of disability and disability history this month to familiarize yourself with it.
One out of five is disabled. That's a conservative estimate. That's 20% of the population.
that's a conservative estimate that's 20% of the population. It is the reward for a lifelong lived
is disability but you can also join the club with me randomly through accident, genetic, or infection
related you know activations. So if you're looking for support and you are a kind artist
So, if you're looking for support and you are a kind artist, you can also let me know and I can introduce you to the kind crew within Tezos.
There's a group of us who provide peer support to one another and serve as a little mutual aid network of reposting and retweeting and commenting on each other's stuff.
So that when we do need to rest because we are in flair, we are not are not punished by the algo so more information will be coming soon when i finish the poster
but that's my little ramble and there's so many other things too but are you going to be playing
reaper actual when it drops are you going to be playing first person shoot them ups
so my internet is too terrible for any of that, unfortunately, which is why I'm doing the retro games, because the frame rate is fine.
Because my upload speed is 0.004 megabytes per second.
You don't have like super Elon internet?
No, absolutely not.
But hopefully this year there will be fiber.
That is at least what the Ministry of Infrastructure told me by email a couple months ago.
So looking forward to that.
It took them a couple months to send you an email, your internet says?
No, no, no, no.
No, they told me a couple months ago.
And now they've said sometime this year.
This is the year that it is due.
Sometime this year the email got there finally? More or less, right? It's a miracle I'm here this year. This is the year that it is due. Sometime this year, the email got there finally?
More or less, right?
It's a miracle I'm here at all.
The sound is amazing considering your speeds.
It must be doing amazing black magic buffering
because it seems to be working fine.
I could see where video game streaming may be an issue.
Yeah, for sure.
If I'm standing still while playing breath of the
wild gorgeous everybody can see everything as soon as i take one step it is just a blurry mess
so and that is with adjustments made in obs but it is so like what happens when you like uh upload
like a video to youtube like let's say like a 20 minute clip does that take you like 14 hours
it takes me about four hours, yeah. Damn!
It's like dial-up days.
I've been stuck in dial-up days this whole time.
Do you have to put the handset onto the modem?
No, thankfully.
Do you remember that?
I think that was War Games, Matthew Broderick.
Yes.
I remember that.
But with this new game,
I'm excited about it just as like a gamer generally because it opens up a whole world.
What if we had an open world farming sim or puzzle game where there's like
puzzles to solve,
like the possibilities.
I'm so excited.
Well,
like Mist Island.
Remember Myst?
Sometimes the games allow you to make that yourself, you know?
Like within the game.
Because that would be me.
I would be like farming cheese or something.
Something that helps people do their adventure.
How do you farm cheese just i don't know
you need the cows first yeah farming sim you collect the milk you build yourself a little
kitchen then you have to feed the house you know it's complicated i've referred it simple farm the
cheese yeah farm the cheese but then I'd have all of the cheese,
and I would corner the market on the cheese,
and the cheese would be great for helping people get through
big, deep, dark dungeons or whatever.
You'd have so much, you would have to cut the cheese.
I would.
Yeah, so much cheese.
That's a lot of cheese.
Who knows what it would be, but it would be something like that.
Or building armor.
I love doing that stuff,ing the materials and building stuff.
With all this cheese and armor talk,
I just, real quick reminder,
this conversation's open to everyone.
No need for a perfect speech.
See how that works.
Just raise your hand if you want to join the conversation about cheese.
Yeah.
But I'm excited for everybody to play.
Because this looks super fun.
I'm going to be peering at anybody's live streams if they have them or however I can access them.
If the frame rate is low enough, I will be able to see. So hopefully that is a possibility. We will see.
It's a multiplayer game, right?
Yeah. In the words of Mr. Smedley himself, multiplayer game? Right? Yeah, 200 people.
In the words of Mr. Smedley himself,
it is basically, think like
an MMO, like
EverQuest or something along those lines,
but like with guns.
Okay, that's interesting.
We should
do like a Tezos
crew kind of thing then, you know know i think that'd be a lot of
fun yeah i'm sure there will be man i'm sure there will be i so like think of a big open persistent
world with stuff constantly happening apparently they've got this ai this like uh if they're not
using chat gbt they built their own llm that they're running behind the scenes and that thing is controlling everything that's happening across the island with the five different
factions so you have like a living breathing environment that we just interact with uh so
if you were into old school mmos like uh everquest uh even even world of Warcraft sort of the feel. But then, like, I don't know, add that Destiny shooter sort of feel to it.
Maybe it's that thing we wanted from Destiny that it never could be
because it was so modular.
I don't know.
I think I would put it more like GTA Online,
but with a Call of Duty gameplay and topic, you know?
Well, you can't drop GTA in a game and then expectations are so high when you say that, dude.
Yeah, but I mean like the open world, the ability to own a base and, you know...
Well, you could say like Just Cause, you know, you could talk about like, you know, those other ones.
You say GTA, dude, and there's so much expectation.
You're like, well, that's billions of dollars.
They spend more on
GTA 6
than they do on an entire government's
budget for their military. So just to give you
an idea of what kind of expectations we have,
you can't drop that in there.
Maybe this won't spare them to put
it on Tesla.
This thing looks huge.
IGN even is all over it, but I mean, they should be.
This is kind of a big one.
I think GamesGG also posted about it today.
Yeah, from what I understand, too,
there's like 200 players can play at the same time.
Yeah, per server.
Yeah, for MMOs, that's huge, you know.
And they said that they want that to start
with like their plans to make it even bigger later on yeah if it does well you know and they can
expand on it man it's been a while since i played one of those games it's very uh time consuming so
uh time consuming so uh but it you know but if it's with people i i know um the motivation to
keep on playing is there you know so last time i got first oh go ahead go ahead sorry oh oh no no
but but it's like it's a perfect um game for like people like us right where we're all spread out all over the place so
yeah i don't know hopefully it works out well we'll have to see the mechanics as well like
uh like blank said there will be five uh different factions um all over the map so
i like i don't know if there will be like guilds you know or like well it will
be just those actions and how we could be on the same team to say so so yeah or it's just combat
or is there like economy or you know there's like yeah there's supposed to be a definite
player-based economy I'm sure it's
for like skins and cool looking camos
and things like that
I think and stuff
like that yeah well yeah
probably even on like the web
three side these reapers may end up being
actual things
you can own but who knows I mean the
the possibilities get a lot bigger
when it's
when it moves off that yeah i knew a guy in college and this was like back in everquest days
you know he uh basically paid his tuition by selling people online you know selling gear
online like in that game i thought it was like the craziest thing ever you know this is
like a back in the day too for a friend of mine yeah like he was making thousands of dollars every
month and he was like complaining about how the game's not fun anymore but but you know it's your
job now so oftentimes that is what happens yeah now. Now, regarding controls, because I had the opportunity
to try the pre-alpha demo at TESDEV,
I would say it is very close to Call of Duty.
If you played Call of Duty on PC,
it's pretty similar regarding the controls.
And they put it.
Oh, so it feels pretty good to play then.
Yeah, I'd say so.
Like the controls, docking, you know, running and moving around and everything.
It feels like a lot of beauty.
Do they, I don't know if they've thought of this or if it's possible,
but do they have adaptability for like handheld controllers?
Yeah.
Accessibility?
Yeah, there's definitely controller support.
Excellent.
Because that is what I need.
Learn, Wassad, lady.
No, I'm kidding.
My wife is very much not a keyboard player.
If she can use the controller,
she's much happier, more comfortable,
less stressed out.
I'm too hyper mobile for
for the keyboard that's fair my fingers bend the wrong way too too often then i get tired and
but if i have a controller well i wonder if you couldn't customize it to make better fit how your
hands fit you know what i mean these different keys it's more that like pressing down the action
of pressing down just i don't have
any thing that stops my fingers from bending the wrong way so oh you know you know they have those
um vertical mice now too uh that's relevant but yeah i don't know i heard some people talking
about it and i don't know if it's any good but um they have a gaming version
of that now but you know it's like sit so you're like holding it like like you would
like uh you know shaking someone's hand rather than horizontally. Oh, I do that with my VR controllers
when I'm doing virtual desktop.
Point and shoot.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, I guess so.
It'll be interesting
because the last time that I played
any sort of military-style first-person shooter
was way back in PS1 days, and i was very good at it then
which uh which game um i can't remember now oh i played it at other people's houses and then
they got grumpy with me because i was beating them all the time i could see you being like
really good at it you know i could see you being really good at it. If you feel like
obsessive
obsessive
artist energy.
I had to
just sit there and watch other people
play because they cooked you coffee.
Wow.
Okay.
It would happen.
So John says the gameplay on Reaper Actual is somewhere
between Call of Duty and Tarkov.
It's somewhere halfway between
those two.
I haven't played Tarkov, to be honest.
Okay, so if you have
played Tarkov, you know.
Tarkov sounds
tedious.
It's too
realistic, you know. So I play a virtual reality you know Tarkov's
I mean so I play a virtual reality version
of Tarkov called Ghost of Tabor
it's supposed to just basically be VR
it's I mean
if you really get into it it can be tedious
but at the same time you can play it just real
quick I guess but I don't know
I don't know I've seen
videos of like guys
like counting the number of bullets that they picked up
I mean you don't want to go click
When you go to shoot a guy in the back of the head
That's all I'm saying
Many times there have been that
I miscounted and I didn't have that last bullet
Okay I have 17 bullets
And I can get $54 from this
So I'm going to sort it out
For the next two hours.
Dude, life's rough sometimes. Sometimes you just can't
find that crypto wallet or you can't find
that thing you need to go sell.
You just can't find it.
I don't know.
I play games to get away from that.
There will be...
But I can see why people like it though you know yeah there will be pv and pvp
like player versus player obviously would it will be the main thing uh but there will also be like
quests and stuff to do well and this is sound like you will be getting quests that do not include person versus person.
If you really host
a coin, you know, a coin
wars, get it out of
our system.
Like have the Solana
people on one side and then
you know, the Bitcoin people
instead of
arguing on
Twitter.
We are writing the Solana base today.
Let's go.
Yeah,
let's go.
I'll be so into that.
Like inherent,
like a flaws,
like their network would go down every so often.
It just takes a long time to process blocks or something.
Yeah.
your,
your network went down again.
Well,
I guess that's bad.
Yeah. Oh, your network went down again. Well, I guess that's bad. We got to see what hardware requirements it will also have, right?
Well, it's what, Unreal 5.
When's their release date?
Their plan release date, was it?
It hasn't been announced, but they have now a
registration open, I think, for
alpha version or something like that
if you want to try it in a few
weeks or months.
Oh, that's soon?
Wow.
I believe
the alpha, the closed alpha is like
the end of this month is when it starts
happening.
So we could see something
soon-ish.
In today's modern gameplay
world, an alpha is
perfectly acceptable to charge full price for
apparently, so who knows?
It's coming out in
2027, ain't it?
No, that's Grand Theft Auto 6.
Like I said, you don't ever compare it to Grand Theft Auto
because then people get these expectations in their head.
Yeah, that's a long
time to wait for a game, man.
10 years or 11 years?
Yeah, I agree.
It's a long time.
Nobody thought they'd be playing Grand Theft Auto
online for 10 years.
What if you compare it to Grand Theft Auto
2 or 1?
Did you play those ones?
Yeah, they were 2D.
Yeah, with the running Elvis's.
I did.
Yeah, I played it when it first came out.
Do you remember when they got that weird parallax effect
where you could drive through the building
and you really felt like it was 3D,
even though it was just 2D?
Anyway, we've come a ways, haven't we?
Yeah.
Oh, man.
So was there anything else at TESDEF, Kryptonio?
I mean, like Reaper Actual is all we're really talking about.
Like, was there really anything else?
Or was that kind of just like the crown jewel magnum opus?
Well, obviously, that was the biggest announcement, the biggest, like, you know.
You failed.
You failed.
Arthur's keynote was the most biggest thing.
And then it was Reaper Actual.
Yeah, I love Arthur.
I love his keynotes.
But no, this time it was Reaper Actual. Yeah, I love Arthur. I love his keynotes, but no,
this was time it was reproductual.
Gotta admit it.
But yeah, speaking of Arthur's keynote, it was nice seeing, you know,
seeing all the roadmap that they posted like last year
with a bunch of stuff to do
and now having ticks next to each one of them
to most of them actually
like having done how far we
have come
since then you know so
that availability layer check
justice let's say
check or a thrilling check
all those little steps
and stepping stones for the
Tesla 6 vision and seeing that so many have check all those little little steps and stepping stones for the Tezos X Vision and
seeing that so many have been delivered and yeah there's obviously some more but that's basically
what he broke down all the things that have been completed already and delivered and what is still remaining to be delivered in this year and some of them in the next year,
and why we need those things also.
Kryptonio, I was sitting at a table wearing a shirt
that said I own Uranium DU, you know that shirt?
I was wearing that shirt,
and I'm sitting at a table with more of those shirts,
and all these
people are coming in to see the art and listen to the music and maybe have a glass of wine and
hang out with some where did you get that shirt first of all i don't have chris brought them
chris hooked it up i got a shirt yeah he gave me one he gave me one too too. I'm going to complain to him. Don't complain.
Don't get mad.
Don't get mad.
Bill, why didn't you?
Yes, you got your hand up there, buddy.
What's up, my man?
Oh, you can't raise your hand?
Okay, there it is.
Yeah, I'm here, but I got the recycling guy outside, my window recycling.
Hang on.
Let me close my window.
It's a lot of swinging action up here
at the swanky pad. That's crazy.
Anyways, now
I fucking lost my train of thought.
Uranium t-shirts, that's what we were
talking about. Yeah, where the fuck is uranium?
I mean, I...
I used
to smoke that junior high.
Well, you know, that's the stuff
they used to power nuclear power plants,
Bill, and it really was out of place.
Yeah, we got it
tokenized on our Etherlink.
Yeah, it'll
mess you up for sure.
Oh, I'll pick 10 t-shirts.
A large, maybe. Well, I don't know.
It might be extra large.
I got a beer belly now.
Well, I mean, it can ride up high.
It's fine, just as long as it fits in the shoulders, right?
But yeah, so, dude, we're sitting at this table, right?
And these people are wandering in from Seattle.
We're in West Seattle.
We're not in the city.
So, like, this is even more sort of, like, you know, residential than anything.
And these people are looking at me trying to figure out why the heck I'm there with uranium did you have something similar at test dev did you guys have anything
that was similar like that that was just like something you guys weren't expecting
something that we weren't expecting yeah like was there like a table selling like alien area 51
access or something no i wouldn't say so everything was like scheduled and but yeah there was for example
a stand for uranium detail there was the sony ai you know that project on etherlink that got
integrated like two weeks ago or so they released their token now recently were you guys showing art
at tesda that was at the end let me first tell you about oh there's more oh god
there's okay go so they had like a laptop with a camera there and you could like you you went there
they would take your picture and it would generate like eight different versions of your face like
it could be i don't know like an ancient god or in uh um medieval artist or
whatever so change you and then you chose one of those eight and they would print it for you which
was pretty cool like it gave some really really fun results you know and we were laughing with
each other who looked more ugly uh that was really fun and who did look more ugly uh me but yeah you copped out there i think
it was some it was a chris chris looked the ugliest i'm not even sure if chris went to get
his photo taken oh bummer that would have been fun especially if you had the baker's hat on see what
it did with it oh yeah so i didn't get a uranium shirt but i did get a baker's hat how about that oh nice nice why did you get my my you know
what my my brother wanted one of those but like chris was like no it's mine yeah that was the
literal my brother my brother loves cooking so he was looking at the
hat and he was like hmm but no it's it's too special some really cool swag a really cool
swag they had a rupee scoop with which was uh instead of just colors it had the colored apples
on its side for apple farm and etherlink you know. They had also the Baker's Huts.
They had some cool T-shirts.
What else was there?
There were uranium socks.
I did get uranium socks.
What else?
What else?
Countryman.
Oh, there were some cool beach towels with Tezos logo,
which made sense because it was mixed to the beach, the whole event.
Man, you had a nice swag bag you had there.
But you didn't have chocolate-covered fortune cookies.
We win.
We win.
We had those.
We win.
And chocolate-covered pineapple gummies.
Yeah. Besides those,
there was also the
Uncode and the
hackathon, the Etherlink
hackathon that Beata did the presentation
with people from Uncode.
That was pretty cool.
They are starting tomorrow, I think, July 9th
to August 3rd or something like that.
It will be running. I think the registrations are still open, but they have like $40,000 in prices. So I think we
will see some cool stuff coming out of there, you know, maybe some new projects or concepts. We'll see.
Then we had Thomas Letan presenting about Etherthralink scaling, but nothing to say there because we'll have Thomas Letan here at some point.
And at the end, last but not least, it was the art panel with Zankan and Ganbrut and the object founders and Alexandra. And they talked, you know, about how it all started,
how they started on Tezos and the whole journey.
And then there was the immersive experience
at the next room with all the artwork that was curated.
So pretty, pretty cool stuff.
Like there was a lot of work put into the whole organizing and
setup of the event you know they had like they must have spent like really really uh lots of
energy and like stuff so it was good it was good i i was good. I really enjoyed it. I really enjoyed it.
Do you think it was a good way to sort of end it all,
sort of bring it all together and kind of not have to like think so hard and sort of enjoy the rest of the experience?
Do you mean about the art?
Yeah.
I mean, finishing up with the art seems like a great way to go out.
You start with this technical.
I agree.
I agree.
You know, and then you just kind of enjoy the aesthetics.
To be fair, compared to the previous years
to test dev, this one was not just tech talk.
You had all the verticals. You had gaming, you had art, you had DeFi
you had DeFi and projects starting from all verticals, you know.
and projects talking from all verticals.
There was still the technical part because it is a test dev after all.
But this year, yeah, I think it was really important
that they included like a whole separate section about art.
And I agree that it was nice that they left it for the end
because it is all about the community and what started, you know, the big hype around Tezos, the art.
So, yeah, that's, I think, where most of the people came together at the end, you know, chill, enjoy the art and make more connections and chat about it.
So really well done. Really well done.
Sounds like they're talking more about the use cases,
which is kind of nice.
Yeah.
Because we're going to use this thing for something, right?
We're going to use this thing for something, right?
One of these days.
One of these days.
I mean, we use it for something already.
It's not gloriously glamorous.
It's not like Hollywood stuff.
This is like power company level usage.
Yeah, yeah.
I know, I know.
We don't go run around and go,
and you know, like I got air conditioning.
Well, to the people in the UK and some of Europe,
yeah, air conditioning is kind of wild to think about.
But, I mean, for us over here, it just is.
And when you go somewhere without it, you're like, what the heck?
What do you mean you don't have it?
This is something everybody should have.
Unfortunately, I think we...
My apartment doesn't currently have.
I'm roasting.
Oh, create airflow.
Get some airflow.
Those swamp clears are no good.
My window in my apartment
does not open all the way.
And remember, you don't blow...
I'm going to fan out of it.
Yeah.
I'm going to move.
That's a solution.
I'm literally going to move
probably in the next month or two.
Isn't there like a Starbucks you can go sit at
to weather the storm
steal their Wi-Fi?
I can, but I don't know.
I'm coding right now.
I've got to be here.
Yeah.
I need my second
monitor, you know?
Yes. Actually, I do know about second monitors.
It's so much faster, like so much so.
Even if you have one wide one, you know.
May I ask about Tescon?
Did Bosque Gratia stream live or what happened with Bosque Gratia?
I wasn't following because I saw that they participated in some way.
So we had two
projector screens we had one on each side of the hall and then we had the main
stage and if you look to the right the the right projector screen was mostly
sponsors we used that projector to actually put Basque Gracias like right
there over everybody so they were they were live right above everybody's heads
like you know yeah it was it was Tez Tones it was you know passion bus bus
his gracias they planned a thing where they were gonna do like they were making
music you know live
kind of like how they do
in their
videos and live streams
so basically
we had them
live streaming during the
event
nice
and now keep in mind too
Paul was up in the booth doing the visuals.
Nobody realized this,
but Paul was up in the booth doing visuals behind it.
So part of the...
But I think he prefers,
you know,
since he's a ghost and all.
We just need to get him a sheet.
Did Hasbrown kill it with a freestyle again
sorry what was that did has brown kill it with a with his freestyles again like
oh yeah i mean you know and that's always he's always been good at that so
yeah we i mean it was a great night of just music, you know, and we have some really, really good musicians on Tezos.
So it was nice being able to highlight that because, you know, I feel like music doesn't get enough attention.
Not just on here, but, you know, in general.
So that's another thing about Seattle.
There's a lot of musicians here.
And they all need the blockchain.
So they just don't realize it yet.
That was one resounding theme I heard for the conversation after conversation out there.
It wasn't so much, you know, well, how do
you know it's fair? It was
more, we assume it's fair,
otherwise it wouldn't still be around.
What could it do for us? And the
things that I see it doing for us are really
cool. And that was sort of the general
conversations I was having with people who were...
Yeah, that's what we're working
towards right now, right? And
Fendo can vouch for that because we talk about this all the time. Right. Like, and, uh, Fendo can like vouch for that.
Cause we talk about this all the time, but you know, to him, um, it's, it's like the blockchain
solves a lot of the problems that the industry is going through right now, you know?
And, uh, but, but we need, we need more people to kind of take a chance.
Right. Cause it is something different. Uh, but, but we need, we need more people to kind of take a chance, right?
Cause it is something different.
So I feel like, you know, I haven't been here that long.
Um, yeah, nine months, I guess.
But, uh, but I do feel like I have a lot of people who are like, kind of curious, you
know, I got them curious about it
and i think if i can get just get them to show up at these events you know i think it'll do a
lot of good like we can kind of talk about more in the details but the first step is really like
trying to earn their trust right because it's like who am I? Right? I'm just some random guy
that came out of nowhere.
you're going to take time.
I keep seeing your hand
popping up, man.
I'm sorry.
I haven't called on you.
Bill, what's up, my man?
Well, hey,
no, I just want to interject
and sorry to interrupt you,
Ryan,
but before you move move reach out to me
because I guarantee I can open that window because I've been a mate
apartment mate this guy in a lot of different capacities but in my current
apartment which is HUD housing the housing urban and development of our beautiful federal
government where I pay dirt cheap rent and they have these windows that open
about three inches okay so I have taken out the mechanism or governor or whatever
you would like to call it and yeah yeah, let me know before you move,
because I'm a maintenance guy and I could turn the screw.
Thanks for the offer, but I would like my deposit back.
So I don't think they want me to mess around with the stuff.
Yeah. Oh, you know? Yeah.
Oh, come on, Ryan.
Break the rules.
I mean, I could probably rip off the hinges right now and open it up,
but putting it back might be it.
Well, if you want your deposit,
I'll bring the old Beltown gang over to there.
Yeah, I already... i'm not gonna say what
it is but i'm already something happened and you know i'm i'm i want to i want to stay on their
good side you know what i mean i hear you man hey fucking seattle housing authority i'm telling you, man. It's funny. Yeah, I'm thinking about actually going to the Central District area.
Yeah, well, they got property.
So King County is the largest landlord of the city of Seattle, but Seattle Housing Authority is second, and Seattle Housing Authority is HUD housing, okay?
It's housing, urban and development.
I got a one bedroom on top of Capitol Hill
where the fair market value is $1,666.
And because of my social security,
plus my brother's money that I've mentioned,
my brother died and left me money.
So I have an extra income.
So I'm on top of the highest point on Capitol Hill.
Man.
I'm on the fucking skid rows.
And I'm paying $445 for a one bedroom apartment.
Jesus Christ.
That's exactly what I said.
So I'm telling you, go to Seattle Housing Authority, log in,
because I told many people about this.
And when I was first told about this, I said, I do not want to move into some shithole, fucking, you know, cockroach infested, blah, blah, blah.
Well, my friend told me, oh, no, that's not it.
So I applied in Aprilil 2007. oh i was homeless and you know bouncing around
whatever and then what happened was is in january 20th 2008 i moved into my own apartment
at seattle housing authority which was a studio.
And I was paying like 300 bucks a month rent.
And here's the best part about Seattle Housing Authority.
If you don't have any income, all you pay, it doesn't matter if it's a studio, one bedroom or three bedroom.
All you pay is 50 bucks. And if you don't have 50 bucks, they'll give you referrals like Catholic Charities or other people pick up the 50 bucks and if you don't have 50 bucks they'll give you referrals like catholic charities or
other people will pick up the 50 bucks for you and if you get an income and it raises they'll
adjust your uh rent so it's fucking amazing man so i okay you got a you got a good deal
uh yeah those those uh those uh subsidized housing units are actually really nice Okay, you got a good deal. Yeah, those
subsidized housing units are actually really nice.
At least the more modern ones, you know?
Yeah.
But the hard part is getting in.
It can be pretty competitive.
Real quick, I'm going to butt in here and welcome Mr.
Fendel and Ms. Wise to the stage. Fendel, welcome, welcome. butt in here And welcome Mr. Fendel And Miss Wise to the stage
Fendel, welcome, welcome
I know we summoned you forth
We said your name three times
Like Beetlejuice and poof you appear
Welcome, welcome
How are you, sir?
Can't hear you
Can't hear you, bro
Do your adjustment
That you did in MySpace a little earlier.
Whatever you did there worked.
My goodness.
Oh, we're good.
There he is.
Is that a boyfriend?
Yeah.
I'm working without a phone these days.
Oh, no.
What happened?
Um, my brand new iPhone stopped working.
What can I say?
It just stopped.
So, you know, these things happen.
I don't know.
I'm not stressed about it.
It's just that every time I get in spaces now, I'm like, well, maybe this will work.
And maybe it won't.
But thankfully, we're good here.
I just want to say thank you so much, Blanks, for hosting the space.
And for everybody who attended TezCon, I know we were talking about it earlier.
I appreciate you.
And everybody who helped put it on, Ryan, I see you down.
Well, you're right here.
And Bill, thank you for your contributions.
And Blangs, I really do want to say publicly, I really, really appreciate you and Mama.
And what you did here was so meaningful.
Yeah, you two are great.
Yeah, I have to second that.
And it just goes way. It just, you know, those who don't I have to second that. And it just goes,
you know, those who don't know,
Blaine's and Mama just go beyond.
They are absolute jazz angels.
That is somebody who is not just a supporter,
but somebody who really
is deeply
involved and cares about this community.
And I just wanted to thank you
publicly for that.
Dude, you made it easy. It wasn't like we went out of our way, honestly. You showed us where
we could help and you allowed us to help you. And we appreciate that. So thank you.
Well, thank you, friend. It's way beyond the call. So I really appreciate you guys. I see you down there, Mama.
And it was such a beautiful time.
And I just cannot say enough for the entire experience and getting a chance to hang out with you guys,
getting to know people better,
and meeting some people for the first time
I thought was really special.
You know, Sizzle and Erica and some of these amazing artists,
Gummy, who might be down there in the audience.
It's great to meet new people and stuff.
Yeah, I just wanted to thank you.
Yeah.
I actually wanted to ask about that.
Like which new people did you meet for the first time?
Not just you, Fendel, but Blanks and Bill and Ryan, like,
because I know you've been there the previous year as well,
but I'm sure you had some new faces coming for the first time.
Right.
So was there anyone like that you talked to, you know, for years
and you met them there for the first time?
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, NFT Sizzle, if you haven't checked out his program,
that guy supports all of us.
He's got a wacky show, super fun, dresses up in all these costumes
and, like, talks about NFT art on Tezos.
I mean, really, really cool cool and that guy lives in town
like relatively not not too far away um in town like so you gotta understand something about the
pacific northwest so if you live in the greater seattle area that does include like tacoma south
sound once you get down to olympia that's a whole nother world but the seattle area can go as far
north as everett bellingham at some points for some people so when people say they're in town
you're literally within an hour of the city usually yeah that's about right and he lives a
ferry ride um from downtown so maybe like an hour ferry ride or something and that like that ferry is equivalent
to just saying it's down the road but for you seattleites i don't know how you live like that
man you drive me nuts i love you guys but man how slow can life be oh my god yeah it is it is slow
you have to like uh be in a different kind of mode like when we're moving around or something yeah for the boats because the boats
around here is one of the most defining things about this place is the ferry system but the the
times of the ferries are merely suggestions they just they're just to put that out there like you
cannot rely on that you know you'll be in line for the ferry, right? And there'll be like four people in front of you.
And you're like, oh, I'm definitely getting on the next one.
But the next one never shows up.
Yeah.
Or it's like you're coming back to Seattle.
And instead of going directly back to Seattle, you have to go to like almost to Tacoma or Southworth or something.
Oh, yeah.
Go hit Point Defiance and then drive all the way back up.
Like what was the point of taking the ferry?
Oh, well, yeah, there's that too.
I mean, it's, yeah, it's a little silly.
But to answer your question, like there was a couple other people.
Gummy, Gummy LSDd um that guy fabulous artist um
i had not met him and he also lives um maybe like i'm gonna i'm gonna say 35 kilometers away
for you canadians how about that blanks, you guys don't talk in distance at all.
But if you did, it would be deceiving because normal people would be like,
oh, it's just five miles down the road in Washington talk.
It's just 25 minutes down the road.
That didn't make any sense to me for the longest time when I moved away from Washington,
why people talked in distance. But now I know why, because it's accurate when you leave the state.
No, I'm using kilometers from now on do it man do it confuse the crap we do that's like but that's kind of in line with the seattle like ethos up there man if you were using kilometers like i
still i still measure things in ounces but i measure things in kilometers like that's so
seattle no nobody does that here by the way i'm you know, I'm making fun of it just to, you know.
Nobody talks about kilometers.
But I see Mal is down there, you know, and I want to make Mal feel welcome here.
And the rest of the world, actually.
We do speed in kilometers.
We do distance in time as well up here.
Just saying. But you do gas in kilometers we do uh distance in time as well up here just just saying but you do you do gas and liters yeah which is always confusing if you're coming from like the united
states and you're looking at gas prices and you're like oh it's so cheap up here and then you get
yeah and we do we do uh wooden feet and inches and we do uh weight and pounds and inches and we do weight in pounds and height in inches and then we also have
cooking in metric it's a hot mess well you know like but honestly at the end of the day when
united states is on the metric system when we buy when we buy oil it is in it's on the metric system
it's not it's we just don't call things the way they are here,
because they got into calling it something else.
But the United States is actually on the metric system,
if you want to get really technical about it.
It's so easy to talk about it.
It's more fun to argue about semantics than appear superior
than very American.
I know. Oh, it's ridiculous. Ridiculous. So than appear superior than very American. I know.
Oh, it's ridiculous.
Ridiculous.
So, yeah, that's why I'm just Mao.
I'm like honorary Canadian.
Now, speaking of metric, there's this other nation across the world that's just waking up.
It's got to be, what, like 7 in the morning, maybe even 6 in the morning.
Wise, how the heck are you?
Welcome, welcome.
Hi, Wise.
Do you need coffee oh i didn't hear her we can't hear you do a lap come back we can't hear you dear
she's been robbed of her ability to broadcast on this platform for now wise
of her ability to broadcast on this platform for now.
Wise.
So I'll speak on behalf of Wise.
I will say things.
I would be snarky.
I will say things like Vegemite is terrible.
Don't eat it,
even though it's very popular around where I live.
You don't even say that, wouldn't she?
She would.
Yeah, she doesn't like Vegemite.
Last time I asked her about Vegemite,
it was kind of a to-do. Yeah, she doesn't like Vegemite. Last time I asked her about Vegemite, it was kind of a
to-do.
Oh, I think that was there.
Some assumption that I assumed she liked it,
but I didn't. I was just asking if she did.
But maybe there was
this unspoken, passive-aggressive
like, you do like it.
I don't know. But anyway,
welcome back. Can we hear you this time?
Did you?
I don't know. Can you? No, I can't hear you. anyway, Wys, welcome back. Can we hear you this time? Did you? I don't know.
Can you?
No, I can't hear you.
No, I'm kidding.
We can hear you.
Beautiful voice.
Thank you for joining.
I mean, to be honest, I was about to leave, but I thought I'd just give it a go one more time.
Oh, yeah.
It worked good.
So how did you have your Vegemite this morning?
Oh, God.
Just rolling my eyes so hard right now.
Don't fall over.
You'll give yourself like vertigo if you roll your eyes too hard.
Yes, absolutely.
That's exactly what I need.
But yeah, I just wanted to pop in and say hello, goofy people of the internet.
And I hope you're well and I've been hearing good things about Tescon
and the conference that just
happened which is pretty fucking
cool and it's good news overall
yeah
and the housing situation
I was there for a little bit too
which I found kind of interesting
yeah housing is
really interesting in Seattle actually throughout
the United States right now but it's technically a topic we should probably avoid well trying to you know talk
about tezos related things unless you want to maybe tokenize some real estate and then you
know go down that route i'm down wasn't there something like that um at some point there were
talks i'm not real sure where it headed i believe there was lots of people lots of people have tried it but
yeah yeah nothing quite stuck yet gotcha okay because of the fluctuation i got yeah that makes
sense i mean it's really buying a house is really complicated that's why i think it should just be
as simple as like here's a d d transfer like however thousands of Tezos it is. When Tezos gets to like maybe $1.
Then here you go.
The sales done through Tezos.
And it will be a win.
The future is not that far.
Oh, I love it.
I mean, it's how it should be, right?
Yeah.
It should be simple, straightforward,
and no middleman.
Contract code. All the good stuff that comes with it.
But yeah, it's pretty dope.
Now you got me feeling hopeful, which is not a good sign.
No, it's a good sign.
I'm going to argue with you for argument's sake.
It's a good sign, but let's be honest.
I mean, things technically never looked bad-wise.
I mean, if you really think about it, it's always kind of looked good if you could step
back far enough but if you if you ride the wave too too close if you're just sticking your face
into the water where you are you can you risk drowning sometimes you know see you're bringing
me down now i'm like a normal level right yeah why is he's back there we go problem that's us man that's tesla's well keep you right
in the middle problem to function that's exactly what i need you know to get my day going
do you guys have anything going on over an object that maybe needs to you know get some get some
some ears on it maybe you guys are you have something you need to ask of us like
stop minting so many pepes i don't know oh the first thing i would say is probably stop minting
dicks so don't do that i mean that's unfortunately if we go to like roblox and we go to like rec room
you're gonna find those anywhere you know it's just like i'm gonna be in this recorded space
and i'm being extremely generous about this.
Don't do it.
And if you do, at least get a crew to do it well.
It never goes well. It never does.
Doesn't matter if it's AI related.
Doesn't matter if it's not. Don't do it.
I promise you.
Us content
moderators are tired.
I respect that.
Do you have any idea how many I've actually looked at?
Nope, I have no clue.
I really, really studied this shirt.
I think hundreds now.
Have you developed a weird taste?
You want to see them in a certain light now?
If they're poorly lit or if the shadow's wrong
or if they're just poorly trimmed?
Is there artistic expression in this?
Honestly, the first thing I want to do
is probably write a fact sheet
or what to do if you're going to be taking a photo
or doing it through AI.
That's the first thing I legitimately wanted to do.
If you're really keen on minting it,
if you're like, yes, I want this to be
permanently stored on the blockchain for everyone to see.
Absolutely have a go.
Just like, hey, what to do, what not to do.
Use that not safe for work filter.
That's also helpful for us.
Yeah, that'd be super.
Yeah, that'd be great.
But other than that, which is interesting in its own respect, we've introduced the feed.
So it's pretty much like your own customized, based on your wallet address and what you collected and the people that you followed as well.
Yeah, it's like a whole new feed.
It's a board.
You get to see it's basically like a front page but just for your wallet if that makes sense.
And right now we're looking for feedback what to improve what to add what to remove how to make it better.
We've released I think a web form but I've just been getting DMs about it.
So if anyone has given it a go,
let me know what you think.
Let me know what we can do to make the experience a lot more smoother for you.
So, yeah.
And we've had a few exhibitions,
as you've seen from the timeline,
and a few are coming up,
which is pretty fucking cool.
Yeah.
All the good things coming our way.
And yeah, if you have any issues, as always,
my DMs are always open.
And Discord, Twitter, even Objects Twitter account,
if I'm being extremely generous,
are always open to anyone that has any complaints,
any craziness.
Even saying, I love you.
Saying, hi, how are you?
I love you.
A little bit strong, but I'm open to it from time to time.
That seems awfully
uplifting, Wise. Are you
feeling okay?
You know, I don't know.
I don't know.
I kind of like it.
I'm not trying to be weird,
but I kind of like it.
It's out of character, and normally it's spicy,
but today it's picante.
It's spicy.
You know what I mean?
It's got this weird sort of...
I like it.
It's warm.
It's gradual acceptance for the things that I can't change.
It's happening. Don't worry, it's being... Yeah, it's happening.
Don't worry, it's going to go away by lunchtime.
It always does.
But, you know, I'm happy
to be alive. Maybe have something
else for lunch then.
If at lunchtime it changes, maybe it's what you're
eating. I love how you're thinking it's
food-related. It's really not.
It's people. That's the issue.
Why are you eating people? You should stop eating people. I hear that's a bad thing to do. It's really not. It's people. That's the issue. Why are you eating people?
You should stop eating people. I hear that's a bad
thing to do. Hey, we've got
a population problem. I'm just taking
people one by one. What's wrong with that?
Yeah, but it's the whole
idea that you're accumulating these
prions. Maybe you'll go insane.
We don't want that to happen. I love how
he's just going, yep, Kuro disease at some point.
That's what's going to go. Exactly.
But yeah, I am in
a semi-good mood
for now. That might
change in the next hour or so. Who knows?
Well, I'm glad that I got to be here and we
got it on recording. Thank you so much, Wise.
This is amazing.
I'm like uplifted right now. I'm like
energized. I could play video games i think
all right all right you're selling a little bit too hard take it easy take it 20 steps back not
even one or two 20 but yeah just uh in all seriousness dm's always open if you need anything
and at the moment especially because i had a few people ask me about the art packs as well like
passing feedback that um that also still stands.
So if there's anything you think we can make the art packs a lot better,
just let us know as well,
because any feedback, any improvements,
really goes back to the devs to make the next,
whether it's a feature or it's a product, a lot better.
So as always, thank you people for listening to me ramble and blanks and...
Am I even saying that right?
I can't see your... Sorry, I can't see your username right now.
Yeah.
It's okay.
No, my brain is just not braining, but yeah, as I mentioned, still stands.
Feedback. Need it to make it better.
And stop minting dick pics, that's the end.
Save your aubergine fascination for object for object.
That crashed my app when you started talking about it,
it crashed my app.
Uh-huh, I mean... Look.
Yeah, I understand.
It's a serious problem.
Yeah.
Look, we all beautiful in our own way,
but I think sometimes
that beauty shouldn't be shown to everyone,
or at least be shown to the people
that you want it to show to, you know?
And in this case... It's also missing context to you know and in this case it's also missing
context you know the lack of context is a little disturbing right yeah i mean we can just do better
that's all i'm asking for we can do better we can do better well you really are positive today wow
god damn it man you're making me sound like a shrieking harpy in every fucking space
we love you uh all right we can do we can do better next time is what well-adjusted people
say you know when there's a problem so you're being very healthy right now wow
i love how the entire space is just like
What is happening? Why is she being like this?
I'm like, that's how I am
At work
I keep that craziness only in spaces
And sometimes in Twitter
If I'm feeling a little bit
The crazy needs to be out, you know
Sometimes
But I've retired
Yeah, but you're not that crazy.
Come on.
Aw, bless you,
crazy person. Oh my god.
Mel, did you show them the video?
I did not.
Do you want the honors?
No, no, no, no.
I feel like they're going to try to see the positive
side of it. Absolutely not. That's not
what we need. No.
Yeah.
Show us the video.
You are there.
You are there at the conference.
Okay. I have no clue which video
you're talking about.
About the uranium socks.
Okay.
What about them?
What do you mean about them? i didn't see which video you mean
hang on i think you accepted this way too fast uranium and then socks together
your brain didn't go somewhere else at all but all right hang on let me find the video
no i was already earlier by the way that I got some uranium socks. No.
And this is, I think, where we found the source of WISE's hopefulness.
Because we cracked her the other day with this video.
Had a mental breakdown this day.
I don't know what's going on. I think Mal pinned it up.
It's like a 22 second video.
Someone putting sauce on each step.
And I lost my mind. I really did. I went through an existential crisis.
I haven't seen that one. Honestly.
It's not like haha.
It's just the whole thing.
What did this do to you?
These socks on a step.
Like did you have like a Seuss moment?
What happened?
I mean.
Mal can attest to this.
I've lost my fucking shit I was laughing
I was crying
I was thinking
I had a real moment
I've been in this space for almost 5 years
and this is what
legitimately broke me
anything else I've seen
that
broke me by the way I wasn't at that event that was
ethcc ah i can't tell the difference i think it was the absurdity of the whole thing ethcc
is an ethereum conference that happens in the same city and tesdev is the tezos one
but uh but etherlink had a booth ETHCC as well to try and attract
people from the Ethereum ecosystem.
And Uranium obviously
is a big part. So
I assume that's why they
did it.
Ah, okay. Gotcha.
I just, like, even poor
Ion came into this space.
And we're just chatting
a little. This looks like a video
that should be minted to an object.
He said that too.
It's so absurd.
I see it. I see it now.
I see why. I painted it up on the
space.
I was laughing for like, what, 10 minutes
or so?
Try 30 and you're switching
back and forth between languages i was going back from
like my name language to english and then i was just i was siding as well because i could not
believe that i'm seeing this and it's not even like a haha thing it's more like oh wow this is
what broke me this it just it did things I never thought was possible.
It really did.
And mind you, people of you.
Sorry, sorry.
She's grounded herself now.
I was going to say that meanwhile,
the temperature was like 37 Celsius.
That's like, what, 100 Fahrenheit or something?
Like it was freaking hot.
So I don't know why they chose to do socks long ones as well
no they it was a bikini so like the idea originally was a bikini but then they were
against it and i just stuck with the socks um yeah that's kind of like what they said which
to be honest it doesn't matter which one you chose i just don't want it to be on the front step
and i think i kind of got the premise it's kind of like you're raising the floor
right you're raising you're raising the floor on if there's a uranium token or something
there's you're raising it yeah and then like yeah and it's it gets better the more you think about
it actually i see yeah i dissected this fucking fucking shit for a while because I was really into it.
And it just and I think like when Ion came to the space and we thought we were talking about like the game thing that was like released or people getting reward points.
I'm like, that was not the topic of the conversation at all.
We're looking at the ads.
That's what we're looking at. and i had a really good time i lost my shirt like i really fucking did not like angry it was just like it was beautiful honestly you went through like the five stages
but mostly tied in with like laughter it was like so exquisite and now you're so grounded i love this so would you say that that
video after all is a success since we are even still talking about it no to me to me it was
successful but i anyone else who watches like oh okay this is done but to me every time i look at
because sometimes i go back and check it that's's how I'm invested. I am in this.
It doesn't matter about the socks.
It really doesn't.
It's just for me, the fact that someone took a chunk of their time, mind you, in crazy heat from the sounds of it too, and put socks in each step and zoomed in in each step and
continued all the way to the top.
And then it just goes back to the beginning and in the beginning I'm like I mean this is kind of like a Sisyphean thing I'm like okay
that kind of makes sense but then it's just back and it just loops and it just loops again and it
loops and loops and loops and loops and then at some point you just realize that's what we are in
this space we're pretty much just doing the exact same
thing changes here and there obviously but um to me that video really does symbolize that anyway
i came dissecting a little bit too much but a little bit of an existential crisis i really did
i really fucking did but But I enjoyed it.
Don't mint the video. Don't mint it.
Don't do that.
Let it be in Twitter.
And I really enjoyed it.
Well, it's better than dicks.
You know, you would think that.
You really would think that.
Personally.
Personally.
If you combine both of them together and instead of the socks it's like a dick pic
then we'll change the
entire video
there you go
there's the evolution of the idea
what if the socks weren't in the package
what if they were just loosely laying there
that's what I said the fact that they were in the package just made if they were just loosely laying there? That's what I said.
Like, the fact that they were in the package just made it, I don't know, it tickled me.
In such strange ways.
But of course you would want to.
It's delightful.
If somebody was wearing them.
Oh my god, imagine if it was just like someone's toes.
Like, you know those socks?
Like stepping up the stairs?
That would be adorable.
Yeah.
That's cute.
Now you just got me thinking of, like, new concepts.
And for some reason, I thought, like, a marketing agency was behind this
because the quality of the video was actually pretty good.
I'm like, no, that's not the case.
I'm like, who vetoed this idea?
Who said, like, yes, let's do it?
How do you sell uranium?
You know, that's a question.
I just feel like they're like trying their best and you know, like how do you, I don't know, how would you even? I just love that we're still
talking about it because it's obviously successful. No, no, no, no, don't do that.
It's tied to your brain permanently wise don't argue
no to me the first thing when I see that video is just the socks so to me you're selling the socks
to me anyway I'm never gonna associate the socks with Uranium unless I really look at the actual
um logo I'm like okay well cool um the other thing going to ask, and to the co-hosts,
is there like a mascot?
Will there be a mascot for uranium?
I have no clue.
I hope it's a mascot.
I haven't heard
any plants.
I mean, that sounds like something that people should run with.
They should be running with this
socks theme. Put whatever you want on stairs.
Let's have another
Tezpole moment with the uranium socks.
Yeah, I mean, look,
when people think of Tezos,
they think of the island community, so it's
a selling point. When people think of
uranium, they obviously think of
bombs and shit.
So it needs to be cutified.
So maybe...
I think a mushroom would be a good move.
We need to have any anime character.
Yeah, so he needs to have a Genesis story.
Make it a little bit more,
hey, look at this cute plushy toy.
To get it, sign up for this thing, you know?
Or obviously like a more grand marketing scheme.
Yeah.
Like there has to be something because when people think of uranium,
they're going to think of uranium.
But if people are thinking it's an investment.
What would you suggest?
First of all, you're not paying me
for my suggestions so no thank you
I'm just saying like a genesis
like a story
behind it
might be best because at the moment
the current perception
is not the best
yeah
it is a little scary.
Yeah. I mean, like, it might be even, like, buying it and, like, value-wise will probably
be amazing at a later time in the future. But at the moment, I think people a little
people a little bit skittish
bit skittish around it is because it's uranium.
around it is because
it's uranium.
They gotta lean into the
edgy aspect of it, I think.
It's, uh, have you heard
of, like, Liquid Death?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. The whole thing is...
The water. Yeah, the water.
Yeah, so...
I think it's ridiculous, but, I mean,
they've done well, so...
I think it's excellent. It I mean, they've done well. I think it's excellent.
It's like a...
An inversion.
Yeah, it's marketing, like...
Marketing is marketing.
What's the opposite of uranium?
That's the question.
Are you going to invest in that?
We're getting really deep deep into this man
no i mean look i'm just the way i kind of as like a as a prospective customer right
i'm like okay i see it i get it but at the same time i'm like i also need my someone to hold my
hands while i go through the process make it more attractive to the new person, you know?
And at that moment, because I think from my understanding
is like buying it and selling it,
the whole Etherlink situation.
And I'm glad that a lot more people are coming out of Discord
and Telegram and on now on Twitter.
I genuinely am.
But I think kind of the entire conversation
seems to be centered around really two things
etherlink layer one art people new people minting which is actually a couple things but like
somebody to like buy uranium or even to be invested in it um no one is really there to kind of like
hold that person's hand or even to kind of give them like how the whole story came out to be.
And even if they do get that, they're probably going to get it like as a Wikipedia shirt.
It's going to be very like, hey.
They're like, hey, what's up, man?
How can I help you?
It's more like, hey, it's done, bye.
You know, it's more formal.
And it should be a little bit more personable. Yeah, bye. You know? It's more formal. And it should be a little bit...
More personable.
Yeah, yeah.
I agree.
Try to humanize the experience of buying it
as opposed to, like,
making it a little bit more, like...
Someone who wants to own some uranium
is going to be a certain type of person, right?
Exactly.
They got to figure out how to cater to that.
Yeah.
It's worthwhile to kind of like consider that market.
And again, from my understanding
is that would help all of us in the long run.
So maybe try to humanize the story a little bit more
and make it interesting.
Or you can get like the liquid death marketing if you want but at the
moment it's kind of like here's this thing like okay what am I gonna do with it am I gonna eat it
am I gonna like do something with it in the long run like what am I gonna do with this
and mind you the product again I haven't really kind of like really looked into it so
do forgive me if i'm wrong um it to me just kind of seems like from the videos that i've seen and
mind you've only understood like probably like five percent if i'm even lucky um it just it
sounds very robotic yeah i think part of that is
they're trying to not make it
sound like we're going to end the world, you know?
Yeah, and I get it.
I understand.
I think it's just kind of like how it is.
But I think like this is sort of like coming from somebody
who's like in the art world as most of us are.
Like here in this space, that is.
Like when someone's new is coming into tezos right and whether it's like minting or collecting we're like
hey what's up welcome and all this stuff and i don't understand why that experience can be
replicated i think wise one of the issues might be and this totally i might be spitballing off
something else completely different but with art inviting people how to make art and showing them how to do it has inherent value to the person.
If we approach somebody and say, buy uranium, we're financial advisors by law.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which is dangerous.
Because honestly, owning a bank and owning uranium is just for investment. There is no other use case, no other experience that comes with it.
It's purely investing because you think the demand will go up and the price will go up.
Yeah, I understand that.
But from what I'm saying is the experience of buying.
Like, hey, buy buy this if that makes sense
yeah but like yeah i'm trying to like brainstorm understand like how it could get better
no no i mean like that's that's all on you like i'm just saying like that's all um but as i
mentioned i've only like read i understood like five like 5% of it, but it's overall, it's a pretty cool model.
So I like it.
But I would like someone to hold my hand and go through it.
The main thing I would say around it is that it's made, and they've like pushed this narrative a lot,
is that it made a market that was inaccessible to you, to me, and to the everyday people.
It was really inaccessible to you, to me, and to the everyday people. It was really inaccessible.
Like, if before you thought that, okay, uranium, you know what?
The demand is going to go crazy.
I want to invest in it.
You couldn't, unless you had a huge amount of money
or you went into indirect positions and stuff.
There wasn't any way.
So the narrative they tried to push is that now they made this
market accessible to anybody you know
so and they're trying to make
it as simple as possible
but beyond that there is really
no experience
you can push besides that
it's a simple one you know you open an account
three steps you buy uranium
you're like that's it
gotcha we just make uranium buying
sexy
oh I like that
that's definitely 100%
I like that
we're all on the same page there
that's all there is to it
but yeah it should be fun make it sexy
make it fun
heck even wear a bikini if need be
you never know
uranium bikinis would be better it would be a hit if the socks were like sexy. Make it fun. Heck, even wear a bikini if need be. You never know.
Uranium bikinis would be better.
It would be a hit. If the socks were like a big deal,
wait till a bikini comes in.
Do they need to be like fishnets?
Hey.
Whatever's available.
That's gonna
come one of these
days, ain't it?
Yeah.
Well,
thank you, Wise. That was
fun. It's been a minute since we've
had your company for this
long and it hasn't spiraled
into
well, a tangent
that we don't enjoy.
This was a good one.
This was fun.
Are you intentionally trying to pick a fight?
Always, because you're fun when we get you spicy.
I'm just giving you a hard time, of course.
You know that.
Don't think about what I say in this space right now.
You can do what you want, but my whole thing was just the feed make uranium sexier
buying sexier not sexy sexy uranium i'm with you i'm with you but maybe uh that's why they don't
have a mascot just because it's on that fine line i don't know but maybe we can figure out a way to
do it as uh outside people you know we're
not yeah we're not the prospective customers obviously there's like serious investors that's
um that's another thing to consider but again that's a whole so maybe maybe we need like tezzo
style schoolhouse rock do you remember that show wise schoolhouse rock no so there was this kids
show uh it was very very good it animated. It had very catchy songs.
It taught you things like this is a bill and how it's sitting there on Capitol Hill, you know, that kind of thing.
I mean, what's funny is the stuff was actually used in education as I grew up in like high school and stuff in my social studies courses.
And it was a kids's show called schoolhouse rock
um maybe we need that for tezos maybe we need like a tezo schoolhouse but anyway
yeah you know the song actually jack shelvin the the guy who sang that
gave me one of my very first gigs ever that's amazing yeah look him up
I'm Bob Doro as well
but I did not get to meet Bob
but yeah Jack Sheldon
that was
Schoolhouse Rock's legendary
around here for sure
oh yeah Boomerang is legendary
up there too I mean a lot of people don't know about that
show
that was a Pacific you know we could Boomerang is legendary up there too. I mean, a lot of people don't know about that show.
That was Pacific Northwest. You know, we could source the help of artists
to come up with a mascot.
You know?
There's...
I don't know what that's going to look like,
but something we could consider.
I don't know.
I bet we could get the
Taya people to do it just for fun,
you know? And then
we're going to get all kinds of weird shit,
but maybe
it might be inspiring, inspirational,
you know?
Okay, I just...
Oh, or you
can do it, or have you guys like object do something with it
you know have a mascot contest and you get showcased on the front page
yeah i don't know right we had the artist right here i feel like i think informality is probably best yeah
go with your mushroom suggestion honestly that's a good idea okay it eats radiation
fungi yeah it would be like a nuclear explosion mushroom what if it's just a gray smoking mushroom
that would work as well without the smoke like with a big gandalf pipe you know so it's just a gray smoking mushroom. That would work as well.
Without the smoke.
Like with a big Gandalf pipe, you know, so it's a smoking mushroom, but it's not a mushroom cloud,
you know, but it's a mushroom smoking with a
cloud, you know. Oh, man.
Not so sick, to be honest.
The first step should just be like,
hey, maybe we should just get
better t-shirts.
I think that's the first thing.
What if we
looked at those old 90s
video game commercials, those really weird
ones that tried to make video games sexy.
I don't know if you know about those ones, but they were
intense. Maybe we should create some uranium
ones based on that.
Did those work?
I don't know if they worked, but they're
hilarious. They are funny.
They are funny.
I mean, the Old Spice commercials worked, but they're hilarious. They are funny. They are funny. I mean, the Old Spice commercials
worked and they were of that ilk.
That was the beginning of this whole Blitz
marketing. Did you know there was no CGI
at all? Yeah, those were all
100% traditional.
There's no CGI.
That's crazy.
Hey, Bill, we're going to add you up real quick you'll be the last
speaker of the day night which depends on what part of the world you're listening but uh yeah
we will uh bill welcome back sir did you have something to add to our schoolhouse rock conversation
uh absolutely my name is bill i'm on capitol hill and there ain't no thrill holler, but anyways, no, I wanted to
Yeah, wise thank you wise for yucking it up. That's amazing I
Have that however I went to the object site and
where I purchased all my swag like object t-shirts, a hoodie,
a baseball hat, and then I went to buy another white hoodie and alas, it was gone.
So I think I've got the only swag on planet.
Is that the truth?
Or can you help us?
Oh, and I got a coffee cup, too.
It's black.
It's wonderful.
Holds heat great.
Holy shit.
You've got the entire thing.
What do you mean it's gone?
like the what well well i went on i i went on the object page and then i hit on the link that i
Like the what?
What?
What's all that?
usually go to to purchase items like that and it directed me to the uh you know the toolkit or the
you know the gizmo you know what i'm saying the, you know, the gizmo.
You know what I'm saying?
Okay, I understand what's happening.
But that's okay,
because I'm the only guy on top of Capitol Hill swinging the swag, sister.
Yeehaw!
I'm still seeing a white hoodie available at the shop.
No, I'm talking about like the main site.
Send me the link?
Yee-haw!
The main site?
I think I've grown enough to where I won't spill anything on a white hoodie.
Thanks to Pendle.
I don't know what's happening, but I'm so happy that you're happy.
I'm super happy because you're here.
Aw, appreciate it.
I've actually got the hoodie and the mug.
I gave away my Dobby t-shirt to Violet, I think.
What is happening?
I'll suss it out, but in the meanwhile,
thanks for
being a super
mercer.
Those are words, right?
You're welcome. I appreciate all your hard work.
No worries.
Well, Bill, thank you for that man I often forget that there is
swag that we can
purchase and get
and you
you are definitely the swaggiest one
out there on Capitol Hill Bill
welcome welcome
folks just want to thank you all
so much that's going to wrap up our community
call tonight huge thanks to everyone who hopped on and shared your experiences for both tezcon
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next time. Thank you, Fendel.
Thank you, Fendel.
Way to go, man.
Take care care everybody.
