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$UBC AMA - The months to come 🚀
Recorded: April 12, 2025 Duration: 0:56:31Space Recording
Short Summary
UBC is on a fundraising mission to secure capital for scaling its innovative projects, including TherapyKin and DeskMate, while navigating market challenges and exploring strategic partnerships to drive growth.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Hello everybody and welcome to this space.
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spread the love that your mates make sure that people join us today we are going to discuss everything ubc talk about the progress on the project we're going to answer any question that you guys have
and i'm here today with paul that is head of partnerships in the team paul how are you doing
well while you're joining make sure that that you retweeted the post, and then we're going to start as soon as Paul is here.
Hello, hello, can you hear me?
Perfect, loud and clear. How are you doing today?
Yeah, doing good, doing good. Exciting times behind the scenes.
Just hoping to share some good news and to update everyone where we're at.
So should we wait for a few more people to join?
Because I'm seeing some names in here that I don't see very often, but that's very promising.
Oh, there are some names some we do see often though yes
yeah hello pedro and nollie boy i've not met you guys before at least not knowingly but um
welcome welcome and uh look forward to telling you guys a little bit more about what we're up to, where we're at, and all that good stuff.
Yeah, our meetings are really funny because we keep jumping from one swarm to another swarm, talking about effortlessly switching.
It's really fun to do this project, to be honest.
That's something that we really enjoy doing.
So many applications, so many ideas, so many features, so many things that we really enjoy doing so many applications so many
ideas so many features so many things that we want to build now it has been a
good time lately with a lot of you know progress a lot of work and some good
things coming so yeah we're pretty stoked we'll try and keep it a little
bit clear and break it up so that you guys can follow along because Lester and I
we can swap at pace and sometimes it's not that easy to follow. For him and I we've got a lot of
experience with each other working at pace and swapping over so we are able to do that. But as soon as we're speaking to a lot more people,
we'll try and streamline it a little bit,
make it a bit easier for you guys to understand.
By Swarm, what do you think?
Which one do you want for us to start with, guys?
Let us know in the comments or something.
Yeah, there's a lot of great stuff should we um should we boost this space
it's just uh i mean if you can if you can yeah sure let's have a look i i it's not my post i
i don't know maybe i'm because i've logged in through mine but um know that's when we do Twitter spaces like this it does really help
to boost it it's only like twenty dollars or something but we get way more traction so it's
probably one of those small things that we can start to do to really market and boost the outreach of Universal Basic Compute, which is something that we've been
working tirelessly on planning and beginning to execute the last couple weeks and that will
take quite a frontal role in at least what I'll be talking about today uh the plans on on marketing and uh the strategies
that we have been uh preparing for and putting in place uh lester's been busy doing a whole bunch
of development on the on the other side as well so he'll be telling you a little bit more about that
and uh yeah there's there's been a lot of really really good growth. Yeah well I think I just boosted the space.
Great.
Well I don't know if it works but we'll see we'll see.
So what do you want to start with? What's on your mind?
Let's start with I reckon we should probably start with where we're seeing the the most growth
and in terms of traction and the outreach to people and which is
therapy kin at the moment just because it's so so advanced we're also seeing great growth in
in king kong so i think we should pick one of one of those two uh to get going like and talk about
yeah let's do let's do therapykin for sure so just to remind everybody therapykin is an ai therapist that you can go to
uh talk to he will remember what you say from one session to the other and he is uh very uh
very honestly super good i i think the quality of the product is uh of the the therapist is insane
and now it's just a matter of finding our audience and growing the platform.
But yeah, you've been working on that a lot, Paul.
Do you want to tell us a little bit what you did marketing-wise on the last weeks?
Yeah, of course, of course.
So I initially just broke down what is TherapyKin and who's the target market and what do we want it to achieve?
And I've been listening a lot to, um, like marketing experts.
You might've seen him in the quite few podcasts, Rory Sutherland.
Um, one of our, one of my marketing mentors, uh, a guy called Daniel, who's,
uh, had, had advertisements put in, uh, in times square and Piccadilly circus,
that sort of thing.
Uh, I've, I've just been having chats with him and discussing different approaches towards therapy.
And the human aspect first seems to be getting the best organic traction.
We're currently running some tests with a marketing a, um, marketing, not mark.
He's a, he's a, he's a therapist.
He's written two books.
He is very good at producing content along with his team.
And we're seeing a lot of very good organic growth with him.
Um, the approach is more people first for that, because while we are a tech
company is, is really sort of breaking down to what
people resonate with and what what the at least the therapy can one are and what our competitors
would be doing in comparatively and when you say human first you mean in the in the videos
so yeah well both really because one's the reflection of the other so so therapy can
it's a fantastic tool we've i've been speaking to um to a lot of ceos of like medical institutes
like um i i don't want to say their names i've got a big call with them on monday but
uh they we could go down the the sort of clinical, you know, sort of really white doctors, medical, all that side of things, just make it super clean, which I think the website is already.
But in terms of the marketing, if you look at marketing for therapy, a lot of it's very people first because it's a it's a people first industry we have to
we're trying to help people with it we see the great potential of having that that um shoulder
to rely on during those 2 a.m um like blues or being able to interact with patients between
sessions giving people those sorts of advice and we're seeing it as being a really really strong strong tool for for people
helping them through those those moments and to go the clinical route where it's just like
clinical route where it's just like very cold sort of scientific is great but to resonate more
with people and bring them in and and not just and drive that organic content and that organic growth
the people first approach of like sort of interacting with people directly and growing them that way
is uh proven very useful um so creating a community in a way yeah so creating a community
being out on the street talking to um following the i don't know if you know the british
entrepreneur simon squint okay he he has a project called follow your dream and um his he's also got a big
Asia Asian marketing company um he he does these street interviews and people resonate with them
very very well and we're finding that that approach for therapy, Ken, is proving very powerful because it's driving people in.
So I've teamed up with Nelson, who we had an ex-space with last week,
and he's currently doing a two-week test with him and his editing team,
where they're out on the streets every day,
talking to people, going forward,
like asking them about mental health,
asking them specifically about like the implementation
of mental health, where they're sort of missing,
that kind of thing.
And that provides two things, right?
In order to sell at scale, you need to give first,
or in order to sell, you need to give first or in order to sell, you
need to give content and like itself is a form of like being able to understand how
other people are going through it, breaking through the silos of our minds, understanding
that you're not alone, that there are other options. And importantly that um the that therapy kin is there to help you process
your emotions understand where you're at and provide a sort of framework for people to um be
able to process their emotions and process the the dark thoughts that they or addictions or
and process the dark thoughts or addictions or impulses
that they might be trying to overcome.
So essentially, we're partnering with the therapists
to build this community around them
and helping to break the silos about therapy?
Yes, yes.
With the
goal of auto-landing
B2B sales, eventually.
Do you think everybody should
do therapy?
I think everybody needs a therapist,
yeah, for sure.
Everyone has something that they could work on.
Everyone
has something that they could improve
or like a demon that they're trying to conquer
in themselves like even even if you're high functioning and all that there's the oftentimes
that there's the shadow to everyone's psyche if you want to look at the karyon jordan peterson
uh approach is like there's always an underlying aspect that nobody's perfect.
And so there's always ways to improve.
So as you may know, UBC is raising funds currently.
We are starting talks with VCs to get the required funds
to do proper marketing at scale.
And this would directly contribute to swarms like TherapyKin
because what TherapyKin needs right now
is a super professional at scale marketing campaign
to get it out of the ground.
And so how would you see TherapyKin
say six months or a year from now?
What's your vision for this?
So there's two paths that I'm pursuing at the moment.
One is reaching out to clinical, medicinal, mental health institutes.
I'm currently, I've spoken with the CEO of the largest and most, the biggest one in the UK.
They've got a whole hundreds of different locations.
They are the place that British celebrities, if they've got addictions or whatever, they
go to one of these residences to deal with that sort of stuff.
They are very interested so the first approach is okay we're going to reach out on a to them uh try to do a deal with them uh which
they've already expressed that the ceo has expressed an interest we're just sort of going
through the motions with that that would be huge for us because and it's huge for them as well because they don't have
this not like it's this isn't this isn't something that's like um being done yet but they see the
the power and the potential of it uh so going and doing like a proper medicinal test, go through all the motions with them,
that's one avenue.
And that's going to be a very lucrative avenue,
but it's a lot slower.
With TherapyKin,
I really believe that we have something that is a gem
and that I really want to spread the word
just because of,
I do it a couple of times a week
and it's great.
It has been great for me and I want to share it with people.
And also remember, Therapekin is redistributing 10%
of its benefits to the UBC community.
Yeah, fantastic.
Yeah, industry professionals have been like,
this is a really really useful tool so now it's a now it's just a matter of going through going through like
doing all the stuff that we need to do in order to ensure them that their IP
safe that all these sorts of pieces are coming through and we've just got to navigate through all that.
So that's fantastic. That's one approach that we're going. And we've also got the B2C side
with Nelson. For context, Nelson does stuff in prisons, he does stuff with addicts, he does
stuff with young offenders, at-risk kids in some of the toughest
spots of the UK, all this sort of stuff. So we're going through the two different approaches,
we're going through non-medical and medical tests on the waters at the moment.
We'll also have a second therapist probably soon, right? Showing that his interest on their side as well, right? Oh, yeah, 100%.
Hexodize will know her as well.
It's Heidi.
We are currently speaking with Heidi.
We will be onboarding her and the CEL Center for Advancements very soon.
Just going through the motions with that as well.
She is lovely.
She does this for a living.
She has done for the longest time.
She's super positive based out in Austin,
has some great clients based out in the States.
She's very excited.
She's played like, she's quite tech savvy.
She's played with AI before.
We should chat with Hepzodize as well with all that side of things.
But she's looking to come onto the platform as well.
So that's another, again, non-medical, but very, powerful tool for for self-improvement and so
um it's essentially everyone everyone we saw who who gives us a chance to listen has has been like
yeah this is this is really good i can see this extending the reach of their practice because
super nice one one thing that we do have to say is that this is an extension of the the therapist
outreach it's not really a replacement for people but for men who aren't already doing it i i know
for myself i was like i don't really i i trouble i have trouble opening up to other people um i've been burning past gossip you know all that sort of stuff so um or
or you end up doing at the end of a long night out or whatever and then then you sort of secure
because nobody's going to remember it the next morning um this is a really good way to sort of break out of that. And I feel like if we, with the right approach to it,
it will be seen as being a logical step
or like a Google for your emotions type thing
to understand and sort of help to process it.
Yeah.
There is that we do have to be careful about how it's marketed because it's very easy to be super tech-orientated and be like, oh yeah, this is cutting edge technology, and then people get a little bit scared by it. So I do think it's important to emphasize the sort of human aspect of it because that's what it's there for.
Yeah, absolutely. I could see a future where most people have a personal AI
therapist that, you know, complements and guide them on their daily lives. We also
have a new feature, right, about that is that came just four days ago, I think. It's called Bridges. And what it does, it's basically doing therapy with somebody else.
So you have two or several people, and it's like couple therapy, right?
You talk to the same therapist, but not at the same time.
And so the therapist remembers about you, about the other person you're talking,
So the therapist remembers about you, about the other person you're talking, and so can translate the things you struggle to say or the things that you struggle to hear.
It can help with doing some mediation where if emotion runs high, you have this, it's not synchronous.
So you have this synchronicity that helps you both with expressing yourself and also with managing your emotions.
So with this bridge feature, you can do couple therapy, you can do family therapy, you can do workplace therapy as well.
And I'm very excited about this feature. I think it can help basically repair relationships.
about this feature i think it can help basically repair relationships and so i'll be doing it
with my my partner i also want to do it with my family because i think it's a cool way to connect
uh you know and discuss about things that you wouldn't discuss otherwise so this is one of
the features i'm excited for therapykin yeah i i'm i'm excited to uh learn a little bit more about that because that's really interesting.
I saw that you built that and I was like, this seems really interesting.
And then you released Circle as well, right?
Which is where you speak to multiple therapists at once.
Yeah, Circle is not released yet.
It's still in preparation because it has this uh whole level of complexity
so what circle is it's basically recreating group therapy so the idea is instead of talking with
other humans you talk with only other ais so that nobody knows your secrets in a way and you can
feel free to say anything but you have other you have basically five or six uh real ai characters
that are all have their backstories all have their memories all will remember you and what you said
to them and uh this allows you to just be part of the circle and just listen to their life stories
they their life stories are constructed from medical cases, so it's actual stories.
And it allows you to get the experiences from other people without having to
disclose yourself, because it's really hard for people to go in a circle and just
tell your deepest shames and secrets.
So that's something we think also has potential.
It's quite a technical feat, because you're basically
running six AIs at the same time.
But it's just a glimpse of what is becoming possible
with the new technologies that we have.
And that's something that's only really possible with KINOS,
right?
That's part of the multi-agent protocol that you've sort of built.
Absolutely.
So just as a reminder, KinoOS is an engine that allows AI to have memory,
to learn, to adapt to their situation,
as well as a bunch of other cool stuff like build website live
and make pictures or whatever and
Essentially all of our swarms are running on Kino S
so when you're talking if you go on therapykin and you talk to a
therapist there it's going to be a
Specialized version of this Kino S implementation so that your therapist can remember you from session to session,
can learn and adapt to what you say to him. You can go to your therapist and say, hey,
I want you to speak in shorter sentences from now on, please. And he will execute, right?
He can adapt in all sorts of ways and everything is run on Kinoes. And so Kinoes is going to transition smoothly
as a pay-as-you-go feature.
We'll switch in Swarms a little bit.
Let's talk about Kinoes later.
I think we're in a good spot to swap over
to a different Swarm.
Is there any Swarms in particular
that you'd like to talk about?
Because we've still got KinKang, Logic Atlas, Kinoa.
Oh, yeah, we have a lot.
Do we have questions on TherapyKin first?
Is there any?
Oh, yeah, there's comments in the chat.
Sorry.
I'm just looking at the chat.
Sorry.
OK, there's some questions that we could address.
Do you want to address now or just a little bit later?
Less about the Swarms, more about the token, I think.
About the token?
Let's ask the question.
Okay, let's do a small token interlude then.
Okay, one question from Abdullah is,
please talk about your thoughts about getting a KOL on Twitter to shield UBC.
So KOL, as you know, are paid, right?
Those are expenses that you need to sustain most of the time.
And so we definitely want to do some KOL marketing at some time,
but we definitely think that right now is sort of the worst moment to do that just because of the market. Everything is down. The token
itself right now, we just broke through a major resistance level, the $1 million market
cap, which is not great, but we are confident that it will come back over at some point.
So the token doesn't look good. market doesn't look good and we are
building and most of the product are not yet ready so it's not a great time for us to do
K or the marketing to shield UBC I think the time will come I agree I understand the hurt that the community's feeling with the token.
It will come, it's just the issue is if we go too early,
it'll just be another hype cycle where some of,
some of the price goes up,
some of you might reclaim your money, which is great.
But if it hits that 30 mil market cap,
then we've just got a new set of people who have just bought in.
And what I'm trying to say is that KOL
is not long-term sustainable growth.
It's short-term marketing.
So we need to plan our KOLs wisely
so that we can transfer that hype into long-term growth.
And right now, we're nearly there, but we're not quite there yet.
One thing that I like about this is time
is definitely on our side just because of how AI is evolving.
I can see my development capabilities
growing every single month, sort of,
where it's getting faster and faster to develop,
and it's getting more,
I have more and more possibilities of what I can do.
And so the product that we are going to build
are going to continue to be better and more insane.
Some of them are already insane, to be honest.
But yeah, time is on our side.
We need to continue to deliver. One other question that
I've seen is why isn't the development team supporting the token price increase? How long
are we going to keep moving downwards like this? Okay. asked this uh similar one in in the chat the other day and it's um i i use
i use the the metaphor of uh someone building a house right so if when so i i during this this
story i'd like you to understand when the the liquidity is is accessible by the investors right
liquidity is accessible by the investors, right?
So you're trying to build a house, you buy the land, okay?
Is the liquidity accessible to the investors?
You then get an architect or you do all the research
into the land to make sure that it's not,
that you can build there you
get the architects to come in is the liquidity in available to the investors at that point no
then you buy the raw materials for the house based on the architects uh designs is liquidity available
no uh then you have to hire the builders to come and develop
build the actual house the illiquidity is no longer available then once the house is
done you need to install get all the decorated all that sort of stuff and then finally it's
it's oh no and then you've got to find an estate agent to sell you sell the house and it's only
after that once you've found that either a tenant or sold the house that the liquidity is available
and so it's the token the the market value of this token at the moment is is in that in-between
stage we're not we're not at that sell stage just yet.
We are a little bit with King Kong
and we're pretty close to that with TherapyKin,
but we're not there yet.
And even with King Kong,
you're relying on a model,
which is an investor model,
an investment banking model,
which traditionally a good investment model
will return you on average 10% per year.
And so it's really just,
I understand that it's crypto and we can like,
we've got AI that's able to understand the market
and go process at superhuman speed.
And it's a fantastic tool.
But it's just we need something that's just like, OK, this is
solved now.
This is where the capital comes in.
And we're nearly there, but relying on ..
MARIUSZ GASIEWSKI- I like the metaphor.
I think TherapyKin is looking for tenants right now.
And we're decorating a
little bit to make it easy and we're trying to get the word out king kong is maybe very soon and some
of them are we are building the house so yeah this is uh this is uh we're i think we're supporting
the token price increase but in the long run not in the short run the only way to support price
increase is to either spend
money to buy the token or to spend money to do marketing but none of these would actually make
any sense right now and so that's that that's the reason we're not doing so you need someone to share
about therapy key on tick tock if you go viral viral we boom i totally agree do you want to talk about this yeah for sure we've got a three month strategy
in place um which will drive it so the the strategy is five videos a day uh street interviews
we've got a podcast uh that we've already recorded two uh two episodes of um we're with it so Nelson's done this before for his first book he was getting over a million
views a year he's got 47 000 followers on on his Instagram he's he understands what needs to be
done to go by maybe not viral I don't think a million views is viral, but he understands what it takes to build the organic engine through content.
And that's on TikTok, right?
Yeah, on all of them.
So we're currently posting daily on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram.
I post less on, I've been reposting on X,
but we'll drive it on there as well.
But we're posting a lot of shorts at the moment.
And we're seeing...
So guys, go subscribe to TherapyKin on your favorite platform,
whether it's TikTok, Instagram, LinkedIn, X, and I think we said it all.
Yeah, yeah. uh next and uh i think we said it all yeah yeah so uh we're we're seeing the the most promise on
youtube shorts and um also on instagram at the moment uh we we get we're on an on video like
eight now or ten eight to ten and we're we're like continually getting plus 1,000 views and it's growing every single video.
So we're just making sure we hit our streaks every day.
It's growing.
It's growing.
So it's, we're essentially building a foundation now of like,
sorry, I shouldn't have said that
because I've just used the housing metaphor.
We're in the estate agents marketing it,
but we're just putting a the estate agents marketing it but we we're just uh putting a uh base layer on
on the social media so that we can grow our organic records that have content okay super nice super
nice more professional should we talk about a little bit about king kong what do you think
yeah for sure yeah i think uh i think what I really like about King Kong
is how solid it has been week after week,
even in the greatest,
I don't know if you can say that in English,
in the worst market condition possible.
He has been consistently making returns.
And yeah, for example,
he's having a good week this week
thanks to the variations in price of the UBC token.
So yeah, I think this validates our model for this.
And the 1 UBC equals 1 UBC model is very good.
The raw distributions have been automated, which is great, both for Big Boss that is listening here and for us.
Yeah, no, it's something that we are are pleased with we're going to continue to do
this so at king kong is mainly providing liquidity if uh to to to to recap we're uh reduced the
actual trading of ai coins the reason is the market markets are so terrible right now that
we don't want to touch it with the pole sort of situation.
We might do some in the future if we are in a better bull market period.
But during the bear, the providing liquidity has been so far a very good model,
and so we are happy with this.
Yeah, there's been some movement, people going in and out of King Kong, whether it's with Compute or whether it's with UBC.
That doesn't matter.
It's something that we think could go viral on the crypto Twitter.
At some point, when the time is right, we're going to try to push it hard uh it's outside of the ubc community
uh yeah i think we i think we're very close i'm i've started talking with some more crypto
marketing specialists who i've worked with in in the past um i think we we we're at a point now
where we really should be driving that more and that's something
that I feel bad that we haven't so that's definitely something that I'm going to work
on a little bit more hands up to that everyone but yeah 100% King Kong's looking really really
strong I really want to get them I really want to see King Kong go live in the stock markets I
know I keep saying that and there's a lot of work to a lot of hoops to jump through legally in order
to do that but I just see the tech being super powerful for that that application and attract more of those institutional numbers in investors as well.
So that's something that I really would like to pursue.
But again, the crypto market's really powerful at the moment anyway, driving liquidity and
also looking at the AI tokens tokens but not catching falling knives.
So I do see that, I do think we should try and pursue that goal fairly soon once we've
got a good record in the crypto market of being able to to do it is transition over to the traditional markets as well the stock
markets because there was a lot of money made and lost in the past couple weeks in the in the stock
markets um yeah so nice could you tell us a little bit about the status on other swarms? I'm wondering, for example, about DeskMate. What is DeskMate and where is it progressing?
So DeskMate is an AI study lamp which essentially helps people, students, teenagers, going doing exams to understand what their work is doing, paperback work or what they
understand their studies and have a way to interact with something that's not their phone.
So like you're limiting the, you're limiting the screen time, which are like mobile phones
are very distracting and replacing it with a lamp that understands what you're doing on the page
and then you're able to talk to it like a tutor. We made some really good progress and then got hit
by a trap too, but we also, essentially we've been working with someone who'd be perfect for the job.
He is an elderly gentleman, he's been working in the lamp space, helping get in lamps for
studying for the past 40 years.
He is very excited about the project.
However, he accidentally, well, not accidentally.
The same week that he was like said yes to us, he succumbed to a diagnosis of cancer.
So he's currently going through the medical medical treatments chemo all that sort of stuff
um in the meantime i have been looking at other other routes as well we've got another lighting
company who are interested but they're more designer likes it's less wholesale so if we went with them we could get something very cool and very like
like amazing but it wouldn't fit the demographic it'd be well over a thousand well over a thousand
pounds just to get get to people um so it's it's trying to find the right
So it's trying to find the right hardware partner that already has the distribution sorted.
And this elderly gentleman's got all that in place.
I don't want to say the name of company.
Yeah, but there are other routes which are are great but my concern is that we by the time he's recovered
and we've we've had it manufactured in in china we would like um we'd still have to deal with all
the distribution and it's just like he's already got all that he's already implemented in huge uh
really got all that. He's already implemented in huge, huge outlets that are very, like,
if you know British consumer products or consumer shops, you might have heard of John Lewis.
If not, then no worries. But that's sort of seen going to find your like your both speakers your um
your apple products all that sort of stuff is it's it's highly respectable they have like
a famous advertisement campaign every christmas so like if we i'm kind of hoping that we can just go with him because then that's an immediate opening
up of all these doors
however
I have got other
contingencies in place
we've also got
a cool distribution
partner once
it's ready
set up in place
I've been chatting with the once it's ready to set up in place.
I've been chatting with a national education board who deal with an education and the training of,
like, education, national education and advisory board for the UK.
So they are, they express a very like a great
interest in it as well they can see it being fantastic so once we've got it we can go and
show it to them and have it tested and start start uh leveraging those networks and uh and go through
but that's not totally distribution that's just more like credibility and building
the hype around it and getting parents especially sort of interested in the product um so there's a
few pieces there's one unfortunate piece that's missing which is is there it was there two weeks ago. But it's, yeah, so I've just been navigating that.
So guys, this is a level of transparency
that you cannot beat.
You know everything there is to know
about this project for sure.
A lot of struggles, a lot of pushing forward
to get our vision realized, right?
To get the hardware ready, get the software ready,
get the distribution in line
and sell the thing.
Paul has been pushing very hard on this
topic and I hope he's going to pay out.
Yeah,
I'm actually heading down to
Bristol next week.
So I'm going to
try and drop him a message
and see if I can go
dropping off on a box of chocolates or something like
that just to continue the relation building and stuff like that.
So that is, I'm heading down to, for a family thing anyway, but yeah, that's where we're
at with Deskmate right now. We made really good progress.
Slight unfortunate event, probably not the end.
He's very excited to do it.
He's sort of expressed like he wants to do like one big hurrah sort of thing anyway.
And YC is also organising his company in the eventual...
He wants his company to outlive him and all this.
So there's that whole aspect that he's navigating right now.
So, yeah.
What about logic at left?
I think in this...
Very interesting that you said that.
There's a lot of things that needs to be realized,
especially around the vision and the use case.
Am I correct?
We've got that now.
So we've got a really good team around Logic Atlas.
I can see Bulletproof was in this room,
and Derek there as well.
I don't think Derek's in this room right now but Logic Atlas,
we've got a really good meeting coming up next week. We had a really good meeting with
someone last week who owns five Ford dealerships. I'm hearing the same story from everyone.
Lester, how much detail can we go into or should we just say all of it?
Sure, I think we should save some of the details, just a little bit of the general progress
and what direction, what kind of things are we working on so we're talking with some we're talking with some huge companies that have these logistical problems we've
got a clearer understanding of what the issue is but we're going into even more
detail with a big big company next week who have distribution channels all across the world they're explaining
to me the the logistical nightmare it takes to to build a john deere tractor engine or
john deere generator engine and how how much of a flipping mess it all is. And that's something that they were looking for
and they can't find and it's just not on the market.
So with that one, it's gonna be listening to them,
trying to, now that we've spoken to like three huge companies
that deal with this sort of stuff on a daily
basis. And we found like that thread that goes between them. Now it's trying to solve
all that, try and solve all that. So that is really, that's really taking shape quite
nicely. There's a lot of money in this space. there's a lot of optimizing that needs to be done.
And we are in the right conversation,
we're in the right rooms,
we're in the right conversations,
and we will be able to resolve that.
So that is actually really, really exciting and positive
because from all these conversations, the
problems are becoming very, very clear.
And we're also like, okay, this is a problem that we can fix.
And we decided to, we just need to make sure that we work with these partners to make sure
that it actually fixes the problem and if it fixes the problem for them it's word of an out to all their suppliers
pretty much immediately so that is uh that is a very promising need to be route and so it should
be very exciting and very um great for the growth of the token long term so yeah very very excited
i don't want to say too much right now but very good one thing i cannot say too much about but
i want to say a little bit anyway is we might have another swarm coming up uh completely different
from our other use case but the same tech we would have a major partner to work with and as soon as
we have some confirmation we will let you know about that
yeah that's yeah it's very exciting it's a very exciting one i'm uh you know excited to present
the use case soon uh i think it's uh i think what what people need to understand um because it's a I think what people need to understand because it's for some people it can
seem like the these are all huge hugely different use cases like how are you going to be able to
build all of this it just seems like a little bit of a pipe dream the the reality is that we've been battling having this general general purpose sort
of like system that we can't market that we're struggling to find because it because it was so
like kino s if we went out with kino s it it's like okay it could be used for dentistry but it could be used for
it could be used for logistics and people are just like what on earth is going on like it
doesn't we're not actually it wouldn't actually be speaking to them directly the beauty of the
UBC ecosystem is that it's all underpinned by this machine but then we're going out and we're being like okay no this is a very
specific use case like use this for this application it's purpose built for that and so it's
it's all about fine fine tuning the engine that lester's already built and putting it right into
into the application for that specific purpose so it's a it's a solution to something that Lester and I
have battled before in previous projects and stuff.
But yeah, hyper-specialization is really good.
So don't be concerned that there's another swarm coming out.
It's, yeah.
Yeah, basically the process for each of the swarms is,
OK, we're going to plug Kinoes in.
Do we need some adaptations?
And then it's just building the website, building the marketing,
building the rest of the business around it.
But the tech part is basically done most of the time.
And so, yeah, it's an exciting place to be in.
It's becoming stronger day by day.
It's becoming more professional.
It has more and more features.
And as AI continues to progress, it's going to just get better and better.
I'd like for the time remaining to maybe take a little bit of a step back
with the vision that we have.
Because we are head deep in the phase three,
which is building the swarms, but we are still on a trajectory that is the same
and that has not changed.
And the trajectory we are on is an accelerating path towards super intelligence.
The systems are already super intelligence in a lot of ways.
Cloud has 180 IQ. That's basically it right is super intelligent super emotionally intelligent and this path this
trajectory is going to continue so ai is still going to keep getting cheaper smarter faster
anything and so uh they are coming for all jobs, right?
They are coming for all jobs,
whether it's you get replaced directly
or whether it's just like this one guy
that manages 100 AIs that does the job, right?
The different ways of getting replaced,
but the reality is still the same.
And the dates, the dates haven't changed either, right?
If anything, they are getting closer.
So we are talking 2026, 2027.
If you are in a manual trade,
you're good for 10 more years or maybe five.
But if you are working behind a computer,
it's the end of your career
is maybe five years from now maximum
right and so we need to our vision at ubc is to have an answer to this fundamental problem uh and
to have to start the work now before the riot starts in in a way and so uh this this is why
we're doing this redistribution model this is why we want people to be involved
with the AI systems that we are building.
And yeah, this is the vision that we're trying to share.
What do you think about these things, Paul?
Yes, the model's there so that we can give back to people.
people. That's what it's there for. It's a fantastic model for that. It's very hard
That's what it's there for.
for people to see that happening in any other company. So it's very much built so that people can can benefit from it and while we're still building
right now uh it's it's very much like going through that house phase but once it once it's
built the engines are going and it's just that recurring revenue it's just getting through that
transition stage in three months is is an feat. It was unrealistic to on the three month timeline.
So we get in there.
So guys, just hold in there.
Make sure that you like keep positive.
We're still working every single day.
The team's getting bigger.
Marketing is getting ready to get kickstarted.
Investments coming through to really put the boosters on it.
It's, it's, you're, we're in a good spot.
And so we just, we just need support from the community because the community
that we're trying to give back to, and we will give back to.
So it's, yeah, that's's that's what we're doing we're build building the
the city block that is ubc we've got a fantastic way to distribute back out the swarms are coming
live the text really powerful and just keeps proving itself and improving and it's just a matter of getting out there growing it and and see it seeing this through
so it's it's it's just a matter of time um before it's it we're back up to where we were and blow
straight through the all-time highs again so it's it's just a map like we're not a meme coin we are
It's just like, we're not a meme coin.
We are a solution to something that's happened
in the past many times.
And this like, eighth time lucky,
we finally have a solution that will help people.
So this is another industrial revolution.
We're just trying to come up with a way
to make sure that people transition uh from free ai into
post into ai era and post ai so yeah just hold strong we'll get there awesome thank you so much
paul for this word i i think that this could be the closing words instead we uh if you have
questions guys if you want to get on the stage uh maybe we could do that now i see each one bulletproof
alternally big boss that me uh yeah raise your hand if you want to speak a little bit
or look in the chat if we have some questions
and uh yeah no thank you for listening to us uh We can build during the bear, so that's what we're going to do.
We're not going to do marketing during the bear because that doesn't really make sense,
but we'll do marketing when the time is right.
So we're also trying to raise fans and this to get ourselves the means to achieve the
vision that we have.
Yeah, totally. I think that's a great way to close it we're everything everything's moving we're not
going anywhere things are progressing we're way more adapted and everything is is coming to life
a lot quicker than um one analogy when you're when you're so close to it, you don't see the speed at which it's going, but you're going to look back in three months and be like, oh my God, that's been such an impactful six months there since January, since the launch.
We're moving at a record pace.
So yeah, hold hold strong we'll
get there uh things don't happen overnight okay thank you so much everybody and uh we'll see you
very soon in another one of these great stuff cheers cheers big boasts each one extamate and
bulletproof much love Big Boast, Ichiwon, X-Damit and Bulletproof. Much love.
