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Uncut Network & WAX: Digital Collectibles Go Social
Recorded: Oct. 18, 2023 Duration: 1:13:10Space Recording
Full Transcription
Good morning, everybody. We'll get started in just a few minutes. We invite our guests
up as they come in. Hello, Uncut. There's Lucas.
Good morning, Derek. Dron, what's up? Good to see you. Warren?
Good to see you.
All right, Lucas is up on the stage, and we're just waiting for Carlos to come up on the
Uncut account, and then we'll kick this off. How are you doing, Lucas?
Good. What's going on, my friend?
I'm excited to finally get to talk about this without any restrictions, so I'm excited for
today.
Yeah, this is going to be a good one. Thanks for putting this together.
All right, my pleasure. Morning, Carly.
Tatten, Cristala, what's going on? Johnny Umar? Let me send this invite to speak again.
If you're on PC, Carlos, it might be kind of hinky, so you might want to join from the mobile
so you're able to speak.
There we go.
Does that one work, Carlos?
Hi. Can you hear me?
Yes. Yes, I can. All right. You all ready to go? Let's kick this off.
Yes, absolutely.
Perfect. Excellent. Well, good morning, good afternoon, good evening, everyone in our WAX community.
These past few weeks have been a little bit quieter than usual in regard to our Twitter
spaces, but I am excited to share everything with you today. Our engineers have been busy
working on enhancements and upgrades to the ecosystem and WAX Cloud Wallet. We'll have
a full report next month, but I'm excited to share a new development today from our guests,
Carlos Diaz of the Uncut Network and Lucas Schlica of the CTO of WAX. Let me go ahead and
first introduce Carlos. So Carlos Diaz is a tech entrepreneur with a strong track record
in our industry. Born and raised in France, he's been living in San Francisco for more
than 13 years. He's known for his expertise as a repeat entrepreneur, having founded his
first startup at Machina at the age of 23, which successfully went public in 2006. He then
went on to establish Blue Kiwi, the pioneer software as a service company in France, and subsequently
located it through Silicon Valley in 2010 before selling it two years later. As a passion for
fostering innovation, Carlos also ran startup accelerator program for four years and continues
to invest through his rolling fund, the Aspera Ventures. Today, Carlos is the founder and CEO
of Uncut, an advanced decentralized social network powered by NFTs. Carlos' diverse interests extend
beyond his professional pursuit, as he is also recognized as an independent podcaster. His podcast,
Silicon Carne, has gained significant popularity in France, boasting over 10,000 downloads per
episode. Wow. Welcome, Carlos. That is a feat to be held.
Thanks for having me. Super excited to be here with you guys.
Absolutely. Thank you. Now, our next guest is a familiar face around the WAX blockchain,
the WAX CTO, Lucas Schlica. If you're not familiar with Lucas, he is a tech leader with a focus on
blockchain and web3 innovation with over 25 years of experience in engineering and product development.
As the chief technology officer at WAX blockchain, he has led the launch of our carbon neutral blockchain
protocol tailored specifically for web3 gaming and NFTs. WAX is the home of a rich ecosystem with over
100,000 third-party dApps and millions of digital collectibles. Lucas has also been the driving force
behind scaling the platform to enable the hosting of top web3 games and marketplaces. One of his
passions is solving tough engineering challenges by enabling people and organizational development.
His expertise in blockchain and web3 has enabled him to be a thought leader in the mainstream adoption
of these technologies. Lucas, it's always great to have you. Welcome back. Thanks for coming today.
What is up, guys? Hey, Carlos. Hey, what's up? I've been working with this guy, Lucas, you know,
for the last month. And I can tell you that everything you said before, you know, to me is
absolutely true. He's mind-blowing. You know, this guy is a genius.
Thank you, Carlos. You're very kind.
You hear me echo that as well when I go on streams of such as well.
I'm always excited to hear Lucas speak. And I'm excited to have you here as well, Carlos.
Sure.
Oh, we are very psyched to have you, Carlos, on this Twitter space, my friend.
This is going to be an awesome conversation. And the topic is very, very timely. It seems that,
you know, everyone in web3 is waking up to the fact that social networks are important,
something that you obviously know very well. So super excited that you brought this functionality
to Wax.
Yeah, I think that to kickstart, you know, the conversation, just to give you a little bit
of background about Uncut. And one thing we strongly believe at Uncut is we decided to create
this platform because we believe that NFTs are amazing identity markers. You know, I mean,
it tells a lot about yourself, you know, what kind of person you are, what are you interested
in? And one thing we wanted to do with Uncut is to connect, you know, these people together
because we see the NFT space as a space also, not just for speculation. I think it's really
a web3 should be a space also to connect with each other. And I think that getting to connect,
you know, with other people that share, you know, the same assets is a great, you know,
mission. And that's what we're trying to do with Uncut. I'm maybe owning, you know, some NFTs,
but I want to know, you know, who are the other, you know, holders, you know, these NFTs. Because
if we own the same NFTs, we might have a lot in common, you know, together. So that's basically
what we're trying to do with Uncut is really to allow you to connect, you know, with not only the
creator, but also the other holders and engage in a conversation, you know, with them around,
you know, these assets or around these collections. So we've been working hard, you know, with Wax
because the Uncut platform was initially created on Polygon. So we made an integration. So basically,
you can now connect on Uncut, you know, with your Wax wallet. We're going to automatically import,
you know, your assets on the platform. And yes, you're going to get connected with the other
people that hold the same assets, and you can engage in a conversation, you know, with them.
What I think is makes a lot of sense. I don't know what you think about that, you know.
Oh, for sure, man. Listen, the social network features is something very, very familiar
to mainstream consumer, right? And things like social feeds, being able to share content with
your network, and then expand your network through discovery. And, you know, these algorithms
and mechanisms have been refined over the last 15 years. So this has been around, we all use,
you know, apps like Instagram, or TikTok, or Facebook. And there are many, many others. So,
you know, I think, on average, a person uses at least three different social media applications.
Just if we were to look at numbers for 2023, there is about 4.9 billion total users on social media
applications in Web2. If you compare it to crypto users, you know, as of 2023, we've got 420 million
crypto users. So we are talking about, you know, 10x when it comes to just a user exposure. So I see
these social network type of features coming into Web2, Web3 as a massive opportunity to bring something
very familiar to the space that mainstream consumers just are comfortable with. So, you know, as the
integrations of wallets, and applications like Uncut, you know, they reduce the friction to Web3,
essentially, that's going to be a massive opportunity to bring larger user share to our space. And then
there's a massive financial opportunity. I mean, social media in 2023 overtook paid search as an
advertising channel with close to $140 billion spent on that. So this is a direction that Web3 must go to.
And the funny thing is that in Web2 space, creating social media features is actually hard, because a lot of
that data is not necessarily public, like, you know, you have to go in, you have to add your friends, you have to
connect. While on, on, on, on Web3, we have to remember that blockchains are public databases, which means that,
which means that mining that information, determining what your wallet owns in terms of assets, which, which, which
smart contracts your wallet interacts with, and then building this social graph of interactions between
wallets through this public database through scanning public database is actually much, much easier to do than
than done in Web2. So it's a massive opportunity. And then, you know, and then the user can control in terms of,
you know, a wallet is anonymous. So, so application like Uncut can allow user to control their privacy,
and then decorate their information with with some Web2 stuff, like linking to your your Instagram account, or some
or some other Web2 elements, or some other Web2 elements that essentially enhance the Web3 information, which is,
which is very powerful, right?
Yeah, I think it's one thing that is kind of magic, you know, when you use Uncut for the first time is, you go to your
connections, and you, you, you get, you know, connections, you know, right away, you know, like you're saying, you know, we're, we're gonna, we're gonna
basically parse, you know, your, your, your assets and your NFTs, and we're going to show you mutual asset holders.
So basically, you, you start with a, with a network that is already built through your NFTs. So basically, you get to connect with
people that already share, you know, some of the assets, some of these assets, you know, with you. So that's very right. You know,
what you're saying is the fact that when you start, you know, with Tiktok, or not maybe Tiktok, but Instagram, you start with an
account with zero followers or zero following. And here, you know, because we, we know what you have in your
wallet, we're going to instantly connect you with other people that have the same stuff, you know, in their
wallet. So you start, you know, with a network. So if I check, you know, right now, for example, I'm, I'm doing that,
you know, right now, I check, you know, Uncut, and I got 120,000 connections already, you know, on Uncut, there are
people, the continent on Uncut that share, you know, the same asset than me, which is just crazy, you know, so, yeah, I
didn't know, you know, I had these people. So, yeah, now, and so, and also the, the ownership is very important is that
you're not, you're not, you regain control, you know, I mean, if you, there is this people, this person that
you share assets with, but you don't like it, you know, you just, you can just, you know, get rid of this
person, you know, you're not, you're really totally in control of, because you're in control of your
what, you're in control of your assets. So that's very interesting, too.
I think there are a couple of other use cases here that we should specifically call out.
Because web three suffers from a problem, when it comes to community building community management,
you know, typically, projects have to run either a discord or telegram channel channels, they have to,
they have to essentially manage all these disjoined tools to interact with
their users, and build that social credibility, right? I think tool like Uncut makes it very easy, right?
Because you're essentially bringing all the management for a collection creator into one place. So you can start building
a community through well, well understood social, social network type of type of features, right?
Which, which, which essentially allows you to also bring a little bit more credibility to what you're building, right?
And one of the one of the big problems in web three is that you don't necessarily know whether the project is credible or not.
By via Uncut, a collection can actually build that social proof and social credibility very quickly.
And, and, and then, and then everybody wins, because, you know, you can, you can essentially determine the depth of the network,
the interactions, you can, you can judge better the social sentiment behind a project, right?
Um, and, and, and you don't have to do a lot of, uh, discovery on your own, right?
Like your social feed through your connections via the assets that you own is going to be serving you, uh,
a lot of information about what's going on, right?
So, so not only the collectors and users win, but, uh, but also, um, but also the, the actual creators, uh, whether you are,
you are, you're a, uh, a collection creator and you're more into art or whether you're actually, uh, you know,
adapt developer and then you're building a game or some other application.
So, so, so, so this is huge.
And, and I would expect that, um, you know, social media features are going to be, are going to be very, very important for, uh, marketplaces, wallets, um, and, uh,
and, uh, and other applications in the web three space over the next, uh, years.
Absolutely.
I think we're going to see, uh, a new kind of, uh, uh, metric, you know, popping up, you know, on the web three,
that is not just transaction, but conversations.
Uh, so, and that's going to be a very interesting things, you know, to observe is how many, uh, conversation, you know, people have, you know, across, you know, their, their NFTs and the collection they like and stuff like that.
So, yeah, it's one thing we developed together.
What I think is, is very, uh, very cool is that when you connect your cloud wallets, you know, to one cut, we're not only importing your, your, your assets.
Well, actually we're not importing anything.
We just reading, you know, your assets.
Uh, but, uh, if you're the owner of a collection on wax, it's going to create a community space automatically for, uh, for your collection.
So it's basically a place where, uh, all your holders can join together and engage in a conversation around your collection.
I know that many people have been trying to build, you know, discord servers and stuff like that to engage in conversation with their holders.
Uh, the feedback we receive is that a lot of people are saying that discord is, uh, is not the, the great, is not the perfect tool, you know, for that.
It's, uh, the user experience is kind of, uh, a troubling, you know, for a lot of people requires a, there is a lot of barriers, you know, to entry.
Um, here, you know, we try to create something that is much easier, you know, to use where, uh, people can join together and engage in a conversation around their favorite collections.
And meet with all their holders, uh, without having to install, you know, a new, a new product, a new app or whatever, everything is taking place in a browser.
So, um, so I really invite, you know, every creator of collection on wax to try and cut and to just, uh, I think we already integrated their wallet.
You know, if you use cloud wallets, you, you already have an account, you know, set up, you know, for you.
So it's very easy for you to, uh, to join and cut.
And, and if you have a collection on wax with this wallet, you're going to see your community place, you know, build up, you know, uh, from the get go and you can start, you know, there is also a blog, you know, in the, in the community space where you can, uh, communicate, you know, with your holders, you know, directly.
So, yeah, I think it's, it's pretty exciting.
I cannot, I, what is interesting is that we're coming from a different place, you know, than you guys at wax.
Uh, uh, uncut is originally a, uh, a place where many used by Gen AI artists, you know, they've been using uncut to, uh, that these people using mid journey daddy or stable diffusion and stuff like that are creating a lot of assets.
And they are going to uncut to create collections and put, you know, their assets on chain.
Uh, I see a lot of people since we released, you know, these application with you guys coming from the gaming space.
I'm very curious about how these two communities are going to blend together.
It's going to be very exciting to see, uh, how, you know, our community that is more on the art space is going to blend, you know, with your community that is coming more from the development and the gaming space.
So that's going to be interesting also as well.
Yeah.
I think another, another, um, point that, that needs to be called out specifically is, is this aspect of, uh, merging communities, blending communities.
So there's something that I keep talking on wax, which is utility on wax liquidity everywhere.
Yeah.
That is why we spend so much, uh, effort believing that, um, you know, building bridges as opposed to moats is, is the, uh, the way to go.
We, we, we've connected with, uh, you know, um, polygon by not smart chain, um, and, uh, um, and, uh, Ethereum.
Um, so, so, you know, users can actually, uh, move assets between those, uh, those, uh, networks, uh, using wax cloud wallet and bridging functions very easily.
Um, and, uh, what's really interesting to call out also is that uncut is integrated into those multiple networks, which means that, um, you know, if you have an account on uncut and, uh, you interact with multiple blockchains, you know, your, your social network is, uh, cross chain, right?
This is not contained only to polygon or wax or whatever, which means that now you can kind of have this holistic view of, uh, of your connections and NFT projects that share similar attributes or share, um, you know, um, similar connections.
Right.
And that's very, very powerful for discovery.
I think, uh, discovery is, is very difficult, uh, in web three, even today.
Um, you know, if, if, if I'm a newcomer to a space and I want to discover, uh, collections or projects that I like, you know, there's not that many tools that are holistic like that.
Um, so, um, so that functionality is super, super important.
And, uh, and yeah, I mean, we, we've had this, uh, we've had this on our roadmap for 2023 and 2024 and beyond.
So, so, so, you know, social, uh, social features, uh, that are, um, on top of, uh, web three and, and, and then, uh, linking with web two attributes is something that we see us very, very important for the, for the growth of this, of our space.
Um, and, uh, you know, when we started, uh, when we got introduced, uh, and we started talking about the stuff that you guys are building, I just lost my mom because I was like, wow, these guys, these guys get it.
They, they've already built the feature set.
We can integrate it today and, and really accelerate, uh, this, these features to market and bring massive value to wax community and beyond.
So, uh, you know, integration into cloud wallet is very important because essentially, you know, you, this, this, this could be your jump point where you can come in, you manage your assets, you do your signing, you do all that stuff that you need to do.
But you also have these social widgets that, uh, provide you a little bit more information and, and allow you to discover.
And then from then you can link to one uncut network and, and, and they can take over a lot of the heavy, heavy lifting.
So, so, um, you know, that integration is, uh, something that I'm super excited about and hopefully that's going to bring a lot of value to, to our users.
Um, and, uh, what's, what's also interesting, uh, to call out is like, you know, yes, there's a widget within cloud wallet, but you, you guys also support anchor directly on uncut.
So, you know, if you don't have cloud wallet, um, you want to use an anchor, you can, you can use that as well.
So, yeah.
Tommy, do you have any, do you have any questions, you know, for us or do you want to open the, the, the room to questions?
What, what do you want to do?
You know, I was, I was just remarking, um, to a buddy, this is one of my, my favorite space of all.
You guys are answering everything organically that I had thought of.
This is, um, probably one of our most conversations.
I do, um, I did want to maybe get a little bit more about, um, how, what was it, how do you, how Lucas, you mentioned a little bit about what you were looking for in a social features with cross chain functionality and extra, um, discoverability.
How exactly did you come across uncut?
What's the kind of the origin story between the part of the partnership?
Well, we got, we got introduced through, through community members, so I'm not going to go into specifics who and how, but, but, uh, you know, um, uh, about, um, mid this year, we got introduced by, by some community members and we started, uh, started a conversation.
And like I mentioned before, I mean, I, I, I looked at uncut and I saw what they're building.
I, I looked at their roadmap and I compared it to the roadmap that we had for ourselves for, for this year and beyond.
And I'm like, holy crap, these guys, these guys are, they, they get it.
They, they build exactly the things that the communities need.
Um, and the fact that they've already built this stuff, right.
For polygon, uh, meant that there was a massive opportunity to bring these features to wax, uh, ecosystem very quickly.
Um, and, uh, and then, you know, that's how we got introduced and, and, and, you know, the first phase was, you know, integration of uncut, uh, backend with, uh, wax blockchain, uh, there, uh, you know,
their data analytics and, and data science, uh, backend being able to, you know, ingest and scan all the transactions and all the accounts on, on wax blockchain, and then create these, uh, um, social graphs, um, that are based on, uh, you know, user interactions, ownership, and, and a whole bunch of other attributes.
Right.
So, so they were able to create these complex, uh, connections, um, between accounts, um, and, uh, and then, uh, you know, have this, this, uh, uh, network based model of collections, uh, interactions and wallets, which, which, which then was able to be fed into, into their application and, and, uh, and, uh, you know, uh, into their very snappy UI.
That, that, that allows the user to kind of interact with this, right.
This is not an easy stuff.
This is takes a lot of effort.
Um, and ingesting, ingesting, uh, uh, ingesting wax blockchain data is, is, is very, is very, uh, resource consuming because, uh, you know, I mean, we, let's be honest.
We process about 2.5 times the number of transactions of all other blockchains combined.
Um, we have a lot of activity going on and, and, uh, you know, there's half a billion NFTs minted on our chain with close to 130,000, 140,000 different collections.
So that's a massive amount of data.
Um, so being able to suck that in, interpret it, create these, uh, um, algorithms that can create these, these, uh, graphs, right.
Connecting different pieces of information together.
That's, that's, that's very time consuming and difficult to do, but, uh, they were able to do it.
And, uh, and then now we have a product that, that I, I believe can bring a massive value to, to our community.
Right.
And, and we'll just, uh, we'll just keep doubling down on it.
Right.
We'll, we'll keep working together to, to make sure that new features are being developed and, uh, and hopefully we can start getting some good feedback from the users themselves, uh, from the, you know, the, the collection creators from, from the users that are actually trying to discover different things, uh, about, uh, you know,
functionality features that maybe should be prioritized higher or developed.
So, so that's the next step.
Awesome.
That covers like some of my other questions I was gonna ask as well.
So, uh, Carlos, let me throw this one to you.
Um, could you share a little bit, um, about, like, I know, um, there's been a lot of cool and recent initiatives that uncut has launched, um, foster like the creator
community, um, one thing that comes to mind is like the prompt battle.
I know you mentioned, um, mid journey a little bit earlier.
Um, do you want to talk a little bit more about how uncut is, um, providing a platform for creators to create easily and quickly and how my cloud wallet can help, uh, accelerate or expand that?
Yeah, absolutely.
So like I was saying, you know, before we, uh, we are a decentralized network, but most of our users come from the AI space and, uh, they, they're not crypto guys, you know?
So basically we try to create also a platform that is, we remove, you know, all the toxic jargon of blockchain and crypto and stuff like that to make it very easy for people to use.
Yes. And, um, most of our users on our community are, uh, creators, you know, that are doing amazing art, you know, with, uh, AI tools like me journey, for example, is a good example.
And, um, they create, you know, these pictures and images that is real art, you know, by the way, I, I, when you look at, you know, what they are built, what they are creating, you're pre you're going to be pretty amazed.
Uh, there is an explorer section, you know, on Uncut where you can see their work and they are doing, you know, amazing stuff every day.
But when you create something with me journey, you basically have this amazing picture in your hand and you're like, okay, so what's next?
You know, what do I do, you know, with that?
So, um, we wanted to create a place where you can not only share, you know, this picture with, uh, other creators and receive some validation on your work, which I think is very important when you're a creator, uh, is to get, you know, some feedback on the stuff you're creating.
You know, so, uh, a lot of, uh, these creators are using traditional social media for that.
The problem is that, uh, uh, you're not going to have a lot of attention, you know, on the social media.
A lot of these creators are using Twitter.
Well, X, you know, formerly known, you know, as Twitter.
Um, and, uh, the problem that you share your picture on, on Twitter, and then you maybe have a few minutes of attention, uh, from your followers, uh, here, you know, on Uncut, when you share your, your work,
you, you not only share your work, but you can also put your work on chain, which is very interesting also as well, because you're, you're basically protecting your work.
You know, you're, uh, putting, you know, this work on chain and today it's, uh, on Polygon, uh, which makes a lot of sense.
And we are absorbed, you know, all the gas fees.
So we try to make a system that is super simple, you know, to use, to mint, you know, stuff on chain, you know, with us and without having to deal, you know, with gas fees and stuff like, stuff like that.
We have, so the Uncut is entirely free and you can take your art, put it, you know, on chain, on Polygon and, um, and, and start getting some validation around your work from the rest of the community.
You can also share, you know, these, you know, through your social network as well, you know, directly at the same moment you put, you know, your work on chain, on Polygon.
You can also share, share it, you know, on Twitter, Facebook, other social networks, and you start getting some feedback, likes, comments on what you just created, which is very interesting.
When you talk with creators, the first thing they are interested in is not selling, you know, their work.
You know, they want to have some first, you know, some validation of what they are doing.
And second, you know, they want to, um, get inspired, you know, by other creators, you know, and discover, you know, work from other creators and collect, you know, this work, you know, from the other collectors, from the other creators.
Because collecting is a way also to engage in a collaboration, you know, engaging in a, in a relationship with other creators, which is very powerful, you know, by the way.
Then, of course, you know, safeguarding, safeguarding, you know, your work on chain is, um, is, is, is a big deal, you know, because, uh, with all these tools, me journey, everybody can create some stuff.
Uh, and authenticity is very important.
So here you can, it's like a stamp, you know, you're putting on your work saying, okay, I was the author, you know, that, and you can decide on scarcity.
So basically you can say, okay, this is my original creation and there is only 10 copies of it.
And, uh, you can claim, you know, this asset if you want.
And, uh, which is what is very cool, you know, with Uncut is that, uh, of course you can put a price on your, on your work, you know, if you want.
But if you want your work, you know, to, to be free, that's totally fine.
And, uh, by sharing your work, protecting your work on chain, getting some social validation, having people, you know, claiming your work, either it's free or paid, uh, then you start building a community around your work.
You start building because every time, you know, someone claim, you know, one of your assets, you get more information.
There is some sort of a CRM system where you get information about your holders, you know, who they are, what their name, you even have their emails, you know, if you want.
So you can start, you know, engaging in a direct relationship, you know, with them and potentially you can start putting a price, you know, on your assets, which is very cool.
And start generating revenue with, with, with no intermediaries, you know, so basically you can really say, okay, um, there is only one of these, uh, uh, assets, you know, available.
And, uh, and you can start putting some utilities on that, you know, saying, okay, there is a price on that, but if you buy this asset, now I've got a direct relationship with you.
And if you're one of the buyer of this asset, maybe I can provide you with something, something else.
It could be a, I don't know, conversation, one-on-one conversation, a printed version of this asset that I can send you by mail, whatever you want.
You know, you can create a direct relationship and eventually monetize, you know, your work, you know, directly with your audience.
So that's basically, uh, what we are doing.
And, um, and, and yes, it's, uh, we see a lot of people from the AI space joining, you know, Uncut today because it's like a playground, you know, for them.
It's really a place where, uh, uh, these tools, you know, me, journey, daddy and stable diffusion are amazing tools to create.
And I think that Uncut is a place where your work, your art is meeting, you know, with the community, with, and where, where you start, you know,
getting into a conversation around what you're doing and eventually, you know, create a business out of it, you know, if you want.
But I would say that most of the assets that are shared, you know, and minted on the platform are free.
Um, and that's one of the reasons also we, uh, we were super excited by, uh, uh, partnering, you know, with wax is because also, I think that wax and maybe in the future will, will allow, you know, people to mint,
not only on Polygon, but also on wax, that would be amazing, you know, by the way, uh, because I think that wax is, uh, is a, is a blockchain that allows you to really, uh, uh, mint, you know,
with no, with no fees and, and start, you know, putting work, you know, out there, you know, with a very low price.
What I think is the future also, I don't know what you think about that, you know, Lucas, but I think it's, if we can manage, you know,
to get a place where, uh, artists, you know, can create some work and share their work at a very low price.
You know, if you want to sell your work for $1, you know, sell it, you know, to $1, the problem we have, for example, even with Polygon is that the transactions with ease, you know,
represent some gas fees also, if you buy, when you buy, you know, these assets, if we manage, you know, to get to wax and get rid of these, uh, gas fees, you know,
when you purchase, you know, uh, an asset, you know, an end cut, that would be amazing.
Yeah. I mean, listen, wax blockchain has been built, um, purposefully from the very beginning to facilitate massive number of microtransactions at,
at, uh, you know, marginal zero fees. Uh, so, you know, if you look, if you look at our ecosystem and trading a lot, there, there are assets that are 10 cents or,
or, or just a dollar, right? Something that, uh, you can't really have in other, in other ecosystems because the,
the cost of the transaction is more than the cost of the asset. Um, so, you know, as far as I'm concerned, uh, you know,
micro trading and, and, and, and actually, um, having, having, uh, assets that are lower priced, but, but traded at scale, uh,
is only possible on, on our network today. Um, and, uh, you know, the fact that you have such a massive
amount of collections on the wax and, and the number of transactions is, is just a testament to that,
right? Um, the, the, the, the platform really, really works. Now, unfortunate by-product to that is
that, you know, um, you're not going to have a FOMO of 150,000 or, or, or, or a million dollar NFT
being sold, right? No. Um, uh, and, and, uh, you know, it's just, it's just a different thing on,
on, on, let's say a platform like Ethereum. Um, so it's just, um, it's just a different use case. Um,
having said that, you know, I think, uh, the, the technology definitely scale, the scales, the,
the, the NFT standard, it's very advanced in comparison to some of the other stuff that's out
there. You know, we've been doing stuff, um, uh, for years that, that, that people sometimes get
excited on, on, in other ecosystems. Um, but like I said, you know, my goal, um, and our team's goal
is to provide utility on wax, making sure that you can, uh, you can create, you can mint, you can
build applications, uh, very quickly and, and then, um, you know, leverage the platform for its
utility, but still have access and connection to liquidity on, on, in other ecosystems, right? So
you can, you can be bridging your, your assets over, um, if you want to, let's say, sell, sell them on
marketplaces on that on Polygon or Ethereum. Uh, and, um, you know, the problem with that is that
the moment you, you bridge those assets over the reality of those ecosystems hits, right? Because
now you have to, you have to pay, you know, uh, five bucks per transactions, uh, or, you know,
20 bucks or whatever, right? Like depending how did those chains, how busy those chains are. It's,
it's, uh, it's a, it's a hard reality for, for some people, um, because, you know, we just don't have
that here. Um, and, um, you know, um, I think that, um, the next feature for the bridging system that,
that I want to tease is that, uh, you know, the team is, is actually working on, uh, full rework of,
of, um, of, um, of that, um, of that system to allow not only collections that originated on wax
to be, to be moved over, but we will also allow any collection that originated on these other chains
to also be bridged to wax. Um, so, so that's going to reduce friction for projects that, let's say,
started on Ethereum or started on, on Polygon to be able to say, okay, well, you know, I can actually
move my assets over to, to wax and then leverage this gasless, uh, environment, um, and, and
potentially, uh, you know, expand the utility, uh, for, for those apps. Yeah. And one thing that is
important also to, uh, to say, uh, regarding, you know, Uncut is that we're not a marketplace. Okay. So,
um, uh, we, uh, we don't, uh, we don't allow, you know, secondary sales, you know, on, on, on,
on Uncut. It's real place where you go, you, you put your work on chain, uh, you create a community
around your work. Yes. People can buy some of your assets, uh, directly on Uncut and you, we manage
the primary sales. And by the way, you, you can buy these assets, you know, with, uh, crypto, or
you can buy also with credit card if you want. And, uh, but then after, when you get these assets and
you get these assets directly in your wallet, if you want to resell, you know, these assets,
you just bought, you know, you're going to go to a marketplace. And by the way, I don't know if
you saw that, but, uh, if you go to Uncut and, um, you, you, you can talk about some assets you have
on, on your, on your wallet, on your wax wallet and engage in a conversation, you can, um, uh, and,
and your asset is going to be shown. And if people want to interact or buy, you know,
this asset, we created a direct link to atomic hub. So basically, uh, we'll link, you know,
your assets directly to the page on atomic hub, and then people can make second results, you know,
on the, uh, on, on, on, on atomic hub directly. So we don't see ourselves like a marketplace where
this is not a place to trade, you know, it's really a place to, uh, uh, create, uh, put stuff
on chain, create a community around your assets. And we don't want to interfere, you know, with
other marketplaces that are doing an amazing job and we're not, we're not these kinds of guys.
Yeah. Having said that though, I, I, I must say, um, Carlos, that, uh, you know, you bring a massive,
uh, massive discoverability, um, that is lacking on most of the marketplaces out there, right?
Like, uh, um, you know, um, most of the web three marketplaces are standard search and sort,
you know, and then, uh, and the, what blows my mind is that, uh, a lot of them don't even have
contextual search, which remembers, which remembers what you search for and what, what your inventory
is, uh, you know, something that, uh, you know, I, I, I, I hate to plug viral marketplace, but viral
marketplace, if you're logged in, we, we actually have contextual search where, you know, your view
of the inventory search is different than let's say someone else, because we, we actually look at your
social, social graph. Like what do you own? What kind of NFTs, what, what, what, what, uh, what kind
of projects you interact with, which means that we will be showing you NFTs that, that, that
you're going to be more interested in and seeing based on your behavior, right? This is something
that we're all very used to in, in all other marketplaces like Amazon, right? If you go to
Amazon and you shop, um, the, the stuff that you see is really tight tailored to, to your interaction
with that app, the things that you like, right? Um, and, uh, and I know that, um, a lot of marketplaces
are lacking that, uh, and, and this is another social, social based, uh, social network based,
uh, feature that, that is very important for discovery. And I hope that a lot of marketplaces
are, are going to start integrating it. And, uh, and I would imagine over time that they,
they will be knocking on your door to, to integrate directly into, into the marketplaces,
right? Because, because imagine if I'm a marketplace and a logged in user, uh, has these
amazing discoverability features to, to kind of see their network and, and, uh, and the collections
that, that should be interested to them based on those connections. It's a huge, huge improvement
to what we have today. Massive improvement.
Hmm. I agree with that. So I know you're not a marketplace, but, uh, I, I think that, um,
I, I look at your, um, I look, I look at your, uh, application as a really, uh, a, a, uh, um,
massive multiplier that, that, that could be used by, by marketplaces in a, in a good way to,
to not only, um, uh, you know, increase discoverability on their platforms, but also bring
massive value to their customers, right?
Absolutely. And, um, one thing we are very interested in also at, at Uncut is to, um, uh,
is to gamify also the, the, the, the, the, the act of collecting, you know, I mean, it's,
I think it's, uh, it's, it's very interesting. We know that people love to collect, you know,
some stuff. Um, we come from the AI art space and, um, yes, of course, everybody today can create
art, you know, with AI tools, you know, like me journey. Um, but, uh, what I think is very
interesting with the blockchain is we are creating some scarcity on something that is not scarce,
you know, today. And, um, and, uh, I think it's a very interesting concept where creators,
you know, can now say, okay, uh, this picture, you know, here is my creation and that's proven
it's on chain. It's me. And, um, yes, you can right click, you know, this picture and make it
yours, but that doesn't mean that you are the holder and the owner, uh, of this work. And, uh,
now, uh, people can start, you know, creating some scarcity on stuff that is not rare, you know,
today. That is, uh, what I think is, is very interesting and create some utilities, you know,
for the holders, you know, for the people for sure. Yeah. So, um, being able, you know,
to create some scarcity on stuff that has been forever, you know, not, uh, uh, scarce, you know,
uh, is very, it gives a lot of power and a lot of, a lot of, uh, possibilities, you know,
for the creators.
Yeah. Uh, one thing that I wanted to mention is that, uh, I think, uh, through the, through
the emergence of the, uh, bull run for NFTs back in 2020, 2021, um, you know, there was
a lot of different use cases that people were getting excited about, you know, how NFTs can
be used as, as, and, and, you know, ticketing, um, was, uh, was an obvious use case or, or
NFT being able to unlock certain functions, um, in a digital and, and physical
world. Right. Um, and, uh, you know, uh, I, it's, it's, it's very important to highlight
that, uh, on your platform, um, uh, and ownership of, of, of, of an NFT is a key to unlock access
to a network. Right. So, so you can only interact and see what's going on within the network.
If you have, if you own in your wallet and NFT belonging to the network, right. So it's, it's
a very, very, um, uh, interesting use case, I think, uh, that just kind of follows this,
I think natural application, um, for NFTs that, that, that can be used, uh, um, for, um, for
applications in the digital and real world. Right. So, so this is, this is, this is something
very innovative, um, in, in our space. Um, uh, uh, you know, to be honest, I just, uh,
I'm, I'm very, very curious to, to what's, what's going to happen next with all the feedback
from the, from the community that, uh, that, uh, uh, I'm sure you guys are going to be getting
because, uh, uh, you know, once the tool is released, um, it, it's intended purpose by
the creators is just one vector. Um, but a lot of times, uh, the, the platform itself
takes, takes a life of its own, right. How it's used by projects, how it's used by the
creators and, and, and, uh, you know, what kind of feedback you're going to get. It's,
it's, it's going to be something that, uh, that I personally will be watching very closely,
uh, because I, I, I think what you guys are doing is going to be a massive bellwether to
where web three and social network integration, uh, is going to actually go, uh, in the future.
Yeah, that's exactly what happened with Uncut. You know, when we created the platform,
we were not targeting AI creators, you know, I mean, that to join the platform, we were not
expecting them, you know, to join and, um, and, and they really shape, you know, the, the
product and the culture of Uncut because, uh, they had very specific needs and stuff like
that. So I'm pretty sure that with the wax community, uh, joining, you know, Uncut, we're
going to learn a lot of stuff, you know, and, um, that will shape, you know, for sure, you know,
the culture and even the product of, uh, uh, the Uncut product for sure in the future. So,
uh, you're lucky to be, uh, part of the original gangsters, you know, of, uh, Uncut and, uh,
Yeah, man, we're, we're OGs, baby.
Yeah, absolutely. So we, uh, very excited to have you and, uh, we can't wait, you know,
to engage in a conversation with you all, you know, uh, uh, directly, uh, directly on
it. So feel free to, uh, to join, engage a conversation with us, meet with our creators.
They are fantastic. They are doing amazing job, create some stuff also as well, you know,
participate in the creation process and build your community on Uncut. Go for it.
And quick note on, on the team. I, I, I wanted to give you guys a massive shout out because,
uh, you know, we've been together, we've been working out together for, for some time. Um,
and, uh, what, one thing that, uh, I was amazed, uh, it was, uh, uh, with, uh, how much you guys
are able to achieve with, uh, with a very small team that is a hundred percent geographically
distributed. Um, I got to work with my, you know, fellow Polak during this, this process.
So, so, you know, we could, we, uh, I could practice my Polish, which is fantastic. Um,
and, uh, yeah, you guys are absolutely kicking ass, which, which, you know, I, I, I really enjoy
working with, with you guys. Um, because, uh, you know, you, you, you, you have a very holistic
view to the web three space. You're not a maximalist when, when, when it comes to like
Oh, you know, Polygon only, Solana only, or Ethereum only. Um, you guys are actually
want to bring communities together, which, uh, which is amazing. And, and it's very, very
much aligned with, with our vision. What, what, what the space is going to be in, in the
next five to 10 years.
Yeah. Big shout out to, uh, my team Pavel, you know, uh, our CTO and, uh, Andrew, you know,
the backend developer, uh, Carl, you know, for sure on the front end side, uh, Nico for
the product design. I used to say, we are a very small team. You know, we just six
guys. Well, we have five guys and one dog. I'm the dog, you know, I'm the only one that
is not coding in this team. Uh, but, uh, but yeah, we're a small team. We've been
building that, you know, we, uh, uh, not, not a lot of resources, but, uh, we've been
working on that. We, we haven't started, you know, two weeks ago. We've been working on
that for the last two years. Um, and, uh, we're very proud of what we built. Uh, when
it was the bull market, you know, we were building, you know, everybody's like saying
right now it's a bear market and we, it's time to build, but actually we were building
in the bull market, you know, it's always time to build. So we're very happy to have
built, you know, that, uh, and we continue to build stuff, you know, and very happy to
continue building, uh, stuff, you know, with you guys at wax. I'm sure that, uh, uh, the
future is bright, uh, and, uh, and that, yeah, let's continue to push for sure.
Awesome. Tommy, what's next on the agenda, my friend, you know, I do want to allow some
of our listeners below. If you have any questions about, um, uncut, um, or the new
social features, please go ahead and raise your hand and I'll bring you up. Um, Monte, I know
you, I saw you post something, um, if you want to come up and ask, um, more questions
about that. I see in some of the replies to this, uh, space already, um, users sharing
their, uh, links to their communities. Um, so that's already, um, a really great way to
kick off and kick off this partnership. I'm excited to see that.
So anyone below, if you have questions, um, for Carlos or Lucas about our uncut, uh, integration,
please go ahead and raise your hand and I'll bring you up. If you don't, I'll have a question
that I thought up while y'all were talking, but I'll give them, uh, the first crack.
Don't be shy.
All right. While we're waiting for them, maybe about, maybe, um, I'll talk just a little
bit more. Um, Carlos, um, you mentioned, um, cause I, if I understand it, um, as you earn
and pick up NFTs, it helps expand the communities that you belong in. Um, what, when you mentioned
selling assets on different marketplaces, if you, um, sell your assets, are you, are you
able to still interact with those communities you've joined or do you have to pick up another
asset?
Uh, can you repeat the question? I'm not sure I, I, you, you cut a little bit, so I, I didn't
get another full question.
Um, if I have an asset from a community and I were to sell it or trade it to someone, would
I still be able to, um, access that community?
Uh, yes, but you're not going to be a holder. So basically, uh, when, when you interact, you
know, in a community on Uncut, uh, when you engage in a conversation, we put a tag, you
know, next to you. Uh, and, uh, if you're a holder of one of the NFT of this collection,
you're going to have the tag holder, you know, next to your, to your, uh, to you when you
interact, you know, inside the community, you can still interact, you know, with the
community, even if you don't have any assets, you know, in this community, but, uh, you're
going to be a guest, you know, basically. So everybody's going to see that you're not
a holder, you know, of any assets, you know, in this community, but yes, you can still
engage in a conversation. What I think it's interesting because imagine I discover, and
by the way, I see a lot of works users, you know, joining Uncut, you know, right now
just discovering, I'm discovering some stuff, very interesting stuff, you know, by the
way, uh, that I didn't know about, you know, and maybe I'm not a holder yet of some of these
assets, but I can start, you know, engaging in a conversation with other holders or the
creator to make up my mind, you know, and, and, and based on this conversation and the
reaction and the, and the, and the answer, uh, I can decide or not, you know, to buy some
of these assets and join the community and be a part of the community in a different way,
you know, as a, as a holder and stuff like that. And of course, um, the creator of this
collection can interact directly with the holders, uh, and have a direct line of communication
with only holders if they, if he wants, you know, so, uh, or if she wants, um, so, so yeah,
so there is a, we, we, we make a distinction in between, uh, every community is accessible,
but there is a distinction in between holders and not holders and non holders. I don't know
if I, that answer, that answers your question.
Um, yeah. Ownership of NFT creates that social proof, right? Yeah. And it's actually great
to, to see, right? Like, because you know, you know who you're interacting with, um, which
is, which is fantastic.
And, and as, as Lucas, you know, mentioned, you know, before, uh, Uncut is cross chain.
Um, so basically, uh, we import assets from, uh, Polygon, Ethereum, Wax, um, Arbitrum. Um,
um, I think, uh, what else I'm missing one or two more, uh, but, uh, but yeah, so basically
you can engage in a conversation with any assets across, you know, these different chains. Uh,
so, um, so that's pretty cool.
You answered it perfectly. Thank you. All right. We have two, uh, guests who came up
to the stage. Um, first we'll go, um, to blaze, um, and then tea break. So blaze, uh,
please ask your question. Thank you.
What's up gentlemen, Wax OG here. Hey, Carlos, number one, I just wanted to make sure you're
not the same Carlos connected to Ben at a BitBoy Crypto, are you?
Yeah. That's funny what you're asking because, uh, a few weeks ago, a ton of my friends, you
know, were sending me messages, give back, you know, the Lamborghini. You know, I was
like, what are you talking about? No, I'm not this Carlos Diaz. Yes.
All right. Just messing with you, man. Hey, no, good job, guys.
You know, Carlos Diaz is like, uh, Steve Smith, you know, in the U.S.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got you, man. All right. All right. Yeah. No, hey, good stuff going on.
I, I, I just signed up, got my account set up for Uncut Network. Looking forward to it. Uh,
Wax definitely needs something like this. So it would be fun for the engagement and see
how it goes. Um, also it'll help, uh, probably revive a lot of projects in the next cycle that
need more attention. Like, um, the whole, uh, GPK, you know, all the OG stuff that some of
those cards, you know, should have some value long-term, but, uh, looking forward to see it.
Uh, Lucas, with the whole bridge, uh, what's, what's the status and, and how's the activity
and is there anything that we can do as users or is it still all on, on your end?
Well, I think that, uh, the new, the new, um, features allowing, you know, um, essentially
users from, from other networks to bridge collections that originated there, there, it's going to be
another interesting feature to add. Um, you know, overall, I think, um, the, the, uh, there's,
there's been, you know, some activity when it comes to collections moving over. So like, I think when
you look at, uh, Polygon, there's, uh, there's probably 20 or 25 collections that, that tried to
move to Polygon and explore that. But at the end of the day, I think, and, and it's, uh, it's, I think
maybe 15 or 20 on, on the Ethereum. But, um, um, um, but I think, uh, I think people at the end of
the day get the sticker shock when it comes to, you know, um, how costly it is to interact with
those platforms. Uh, we get spoiled here on, we get spoiled. I didn't know it was going to be both
waves, man. I thought it was just going to be a one-way bridge, but if you're saying that other
projects can come to wax, that adds a lot of value to wax. This is, this is actually, I, I want to,
I want to make sure that I highlight that this is actually asked to listening to you guys.
This is, this was, this is one of the features that, you know, I, I was initially not really
planning to do this because, uh, it requires pretty heavy lift, uh, and a lot of, uh, refactoring
and redo of, of what we've done already. Um, but this, this, this has been a feature that
has been very loudly requested by the wax community. So we said, okay, we're going to do it.
And, uh, we deprioritize a whole bunch of other stuff that we had scheduled for Q3 and Q4. And,
um, you know, this is going to be going live. Uh, this feature is going to be going live this
quarter, uh, which, uh, which hopefully is going to be, um, you know, something that, uh,
is going to, uh, give us a little bit easier time to attract, uh, projects from out of chains
to also try, uh, developing a wax, right. Uh, because the, the, the, the, the, the, the level
of friction is going to go down, but, uh, you know, wasn't planning on it, but you guys requested
it. So we're doing it.
That's awesome. Hey, no, thanks for your time. And, uh, thanks for having me on. And, uh,
also, yeah, looking forward to, to, you know, get with the wax team to see whatever we can
do to help bring projects over, you know, go ahead and get out there and let them know
that they have that option and market that because, uh, that could be a win-win.
Oh, for sure. Thanks, man. Awesome. Thanks guys.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Blaise. All right. Next, um, we have T-Break and then
Broken Dolls is also joining the stage. So T-Break, please ask your question.
Hey, uh, good morning folks. Um, I had a question for Carlos, uh, all this stuff with Uncut,
uh, very exciting. I was curious about the, uh, the mint, uh, structures and how that's
all going to work. And as well as, um, well, do our existing, uh, wax collections also going
to be displayed on Uncut, um, and just how, how all that works.
Yeah. So, uh, like I was saying, you know, right now the minting on Uncut is, uh, on, on
the Polygon blockchain, uh, by the way, uh, just to tease a little bit, you know, we are
about to release, uh, a new minting process in the following days. Uh, I guess, you
know, in the next 48 hours or something like that, that will make, uh, minting stuff, you
know, on Uncut very, super simple. It's going to be just a drag and drop. We, we really want
to create a, uh, a system where, uh, minting an asset, you know, on Uncut is easy as a drag,
drag and drop, you know, you drag and drop your picture, you put a title, you put a
description, and then you have advanced, you know, option if you want, but if you
don't want to use these advanced options, you know, you can just mint in one click.
And again, you know, there is no gas fees, you know, associated, you know, with
minting, but it's only on Polygon, you know, for now regarding assets, you mint on
wax. I encourage you to continue to mint stuff. Of course, you know, on wax and all
your assets minted on wax are going to be, uh, visible, you know, on Uncut the same way.
Uh, so, um, and if you create a collection on wax, uh, if you go to your profile on Uncut,
you can see your collection on the right side and, uh, you're going to see automatically,
uh, your collections on wax, part of your profile, and you're going to see the assets,
you know, in this collection, and you're going to be able to interact, you know, with the
holder holders, you know, in your collection, no matter if you minted stuff, you know, on
Uncut or not. So again, that the cross chain, you know, kind of capacity we offer. Um, so
it doesn't really matter where you mint your stuff, you know, so that's basically, of course,
you know, we want to make minting super simple and super and entirely free, you know, on Uncut.
But, uh, if you mint stuff, you know, somewhere else, uh, again, you know, we are compatible,
you know, with Ethereum, Polygon, uh, Arbitrum, uh, Optimism also, and wax, of course. So, uh,
so it's, you, you have the same capacity, you know, on, um, on Uncut, no matter where.
Yeah, we'll be working on, on the roadmap for what's next, uh, after this initial integration
and, and, you know, minting directly on wax is definitely in the future. One of the features
that I'm going to be trying to prioritize with Carlos's team, um, uh, as, as a fast follower,
but, uh, you know, that's, that's, that's a future conversation after, after this release
is settled and, um, and you guys provide feedback in terms of, you know, what you like, what you
don't like, what's, what's, what's missing and that type of stuff.
Right on. Okay. Thank you so much. Uh, thanks for having me, you guys.
No, no worries.
Thanks. Thanks. Keep break. All right. Um, broken. Let's throw it to you for the final
question and then we'll shut up, shut this space on down. This has been really, um, really
great information and I've really loved the conversation today. So broken. Yeah.
Hi y'all. Hey Lucas. Hey Carlos. Hey Tommy. What's up, man?
I'm great. I'm great. Um, I'll, I'll, I'll get straight to the point because I already
played with the site for one hour. So I got great questions, uh, for Carlos. Once I get
to the, it's not that specific, don't worry. The stuff that I'm shown right now, all the
assets as a collection owner, I see only people that are in the sites and holding my NFTs.
Right. When I see like the numbers of assets and the holders, that's just people that are
there and holding my correct. Yeah, absolutely. You are absolutely correct. Okay. And if,
if I'd be an owner of different collections on different blockchains, it would add up like,
like in different color. Is there a place that I can see everybody? That's what I'm asking.
Everybody that holds everything from everything that I do.
Uh, uh, even inside wax, even inside wax, I've got three collections. Can I alter like all
of my, let's put like different blockchains aside? Or if not, that's a cool feature you can have in
the future. What else? You know, pretty interesting. So what you're saying here is, okay, so you got a
collection on the wax and, uh, yes, the people you see on Uncut are people that have an accounting on
Uncut, you know, that's for sure. Uh, yes. Uh, but what you, what you're asking for is you want to see
all the people, even if they don't have an accounting on Uncut that hold, you know, some of your NFTs in
this collection, correct? Well, that would be amazing if I can see a number and know that a
percentage of these people are in Uncut. Yeah. It would be benefit for all of us. Cause I can call
those people and say, listen, why aren't you here? Yes. You know? Um, so yeah, that's pretty much,
I'm digging, I'm digging the, the UI, by the way, everything is really smooth. Thumbs up to you guys.
And we'll probably. So, so Carlos, if, if, if you're writing down feature requests, then it sounds
to me that, um, you know, the feature request is, is for the creator to, to have, um, um, more power
like tools where, where they, they should be able to see all the wallets, uh, across all their
collections that they created, uh, on a particular network and also across networks. Right. So, so,
so, um, um, you know, if, if, uh, let's say if I'm a, if I'm a creator and I have, uh, two collections
on wax and one on polygon, I should be able to see how many wallets hold my assets and then maybe
even show a percentage of like, Hey, this, this many wallets are actually part of the Uncut network.
And this many wallets are actually not. And in fact, you know, creating a feature, uh, in
the future where you can maybe even generate like social media links or invitation links
specific for your, for your user base that you can then market yourself through other
social media. That will be a cool feature because then creators can actually bring users
to Uncut, right? They want to consolidate their, their, their, their. Yeah. Yeah. Good stuff.
Absolutely. Yeah. It's a, it's a, it's a very cool, you know, uh, uh, uh, request, you know,
I mean, I, I, I, I take your point, you know, here, uh, I think it makes a lot of sense. Uh, now
if you use cloud wallets and, um, because we created the connection, you know, with, uh, wax, uh, other
users, if you send an update and, uh, the people who own your stuff will see, you know, these updates,
these posts on Uncut first in their feed, because they are somehow, you know, connecting you with
you because they, they, they've got an asset, you know, from one of your collection. So what I'm
trying to say here is that the feed you see and the feed I see is different. And, uh, uh, of course,
you know, the feed is based on my ownership and the assets I own. And it doesn't matter if I'm on
Uncut or not, you know, so on cloud wallets, if you send an update, you know, uh, on Uncut,
uh, people on cloud wallet with, is if they own, you know, some of your assets will see your,
your post, you know, first. Does that make sense? No matter if they're Uncut or not.
Yeah, totally. Totally. No, I get, I get the whole social, uh, like how the algorithm works.
It totally makes sense. Totally makes sense.
But, but what you're describing is makes a lot of sense also as well is to say, okay,
uh, uh, I'm on your profile, you know, right now, so I can see your profile. I can see your
collections. So, uh, you as a creator, you can click on one of your collection, you see your
holders, but the holders you see are only holders, you know, on Uncut and I can create, why not,
why don't we create another list with holders that are not on Uncut, you know, and then you can
maybe find a way, you know, to ping them and say, okay, join me on Uncut, you know, to get a
conversation around your assets, you know, and stuff like that. I get that, you know, so I think
it's a very cool feedback. Yeah. And this is the first space you're doing. Think what other people
will grind your brain in the next weeks. So good luck, bro. We're going to have fun.
It's not like we don't have anything, you know, to do, but okay. That's okay.
Thanks broken. All right, everybody. It's about that time. So we're going to shut it down for
today. Let me like such a huge, thank you, Lucas, Carlos. Thank you both so much for joining us
today and giving your time. Um, Carlos, what is the best place for our listeners to follow you
and learn more about Uncut Network? Well, uh, the best place is Uncut. So, uh, join Uncut. Um,
my name is Carlos Diaz, uh, on Uncut. So you can follow me on Uncut and, um, and yeah, but I'm also
on Twitter, uh, at Carlos Diaz, exactly the same. So, um, so yeah, absolutely. So I cannot, I can't
wait, you know, to, uh, to talk with all of you guys. And, uh, one thing we used to say at Uncut is
we're not building this platform for you. We built, we want to build this platform with you. So I, and I
think that's a big mantra, you know, we have an Uncut. So a lot of what you're seeing, you know,
on Uncut today is because of the first users and all the feedback and the conversation we had,
you know, with them really inspire us, you know, every day. So if we, we want to build this platform
with you. So feel free to join and, uh, engage a conversation with all of us.
Thank you. And, um, if you don't see it, the Uncut, uh, Twitter is in our, uh, in our space right
there, you can click them and follow right there on Twitter. Um, if you are looking to
get more information from Lucas, please follow him here on Twitter and don't miss out on our
tech update next month, where Lucas will be giving us an update on everything his team
has been working on behind the scenes. Lucas, do you have any parting words for our audience?
No, I'd like to, uh, thank you and, and Carlos for, for doing this. This, this is very important.
Uh, I think that we are pushing envelope in terms of the, uh, you know, social features
that are coming into web three space and, um, you know, the, the, the next bull, uh, market
will be, uh, very, very different for us because we'll have a lot of different tools that, um,
uh, hopefully we'll, we'll make the next cycle, um, more exciting and meaningful to people.
And we'll be able to attract, um, wider mainstream audience. So, um, I'm, I'm super excited about all
this.
Thanks Lucas. I'm excited too.
Oh, everybody. That's our show. Thank you for tuning in. Um, next week, get ready for something
spooky. Um, I'm excited to share that we'll be joined by artist Byron, Monk, Terror Cards and
Broken Dolls, who's up here on stage for a Halloween Wax Wednesday space. We'll be, uh, featuring
those artists. Please come and tune in. We'll see you next week and we'll see you soon.
Take care, Wax.
Thank you so much, Tommy.
