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UNLOCKING Etherium w/ NEKO.ETH Sponsored $NEKO
Recorded: Sept. 9, 2025 Duration: 2:15:27Space Recording
Short Summary
In a candid discussion, artists and crypto enthusiasts explore the paradox of success in the music industry, the importance of community in crypto, and the evolving landscape of financial institutions adapting to blockchain technology. Key highlights include personal struggles amidst public achievements, the launch of Crypto Fam Radio, and emerging job opportunities in the crypto space.
Full Transcription
I got no excuses.
I got no excuses.
Yeah, I got no excuses.
Yo, this industry is so confusing.
Hard to tell who's really with me or who's trying to use me.
If I told you I respect you, why you say it loosely?
I don't throw those words around, it's just not how I do.
I know I can be a nuisance. Ain't afraid to admit it if I think it's true.
Yeah, people ask me where I've been, and I've been right eluded.
Had to make my own plans, I don't need your two cents.
Yeah, I don't want to hear excuses.
I just like to make moves and make improvements.
I just like to break rules, maybe start some nutrients.
Living like the Ike truth, playing off the loosens.
Yeah, they everywhere I learned to do this. I got no excuses. I got no excuses.
Yeah, I got no.
Yeah, here's a couple things that I'm confused with.
I just did an interview, the guy was pretty clueless.
You don't have to know the album names are on my music.
But at least try to find out who you in the room.
Hey, I'll expect something like it's coming.
Take a shot behind my back, I'm a cuss of bullets bullets Why the game looking at me like I'm just a tortoise
They said no, I'm here to stay, this verse is getting boring
Mind over lyricists, listen while I experiment
Visualize it, it's imperative, big surprises and scary tricks
It is time, yes, we're here against it in silence
Don't care for it, criticizing my character
Isn't why so beware, bitch?
Forget what you're telling me, do what I got to, man
I got the remedy, wonderful comment that never select me I don't fit in with the room of celebrities criticizing my character things on my to-do list. Tremend my temper like my family. I ain't trying to lose it. Say a little, do it loud.
No excuses.
Yeah.
Yeah, they ask you why I learned to do this.
Self-taught.
Checking things on my to-do list.
Tremend my temper like my family.
I ain't trying to lose it.
Say a little, do it loud.
No excuses.
I got no excuses.
Yeah.
I got no excuses.
Yeah, I got no excuses, yeah, I got no excuses, yeah, I got no excuses, yeah, yo, I got no, yeah, I the worst, the most depressed i've ever been literally feeling like i'd probably
be happier if i was just dead i got number one on the billboard my song is massive right now
like i may never have a song this big again my tour i think every date sold out except one date
so i literally had everything that I'd always dreamed of happening.
And I felt, I didn't feel happy at all.
And so I think what happened was I spiraled really bad.
Because I was like, I'm here.
And if this is it, there's got to be more for me.
Because if this is it, like, it's not going to work.
I don't feel like a shit. this is it then I feel hopeless
And I wish I could
But it's hard and I hate myself
They know they feel the worse for me
They've been not the worse for me
My own running got me feeling like it hurts to think
If this is all that I wanted, I don't want it, gotta be more for me. What it call beliefs. And every morning I wake up
and feel like I ain't not worth it cause I'm a wolf of peace. I go to hell, talking to the
corpse of me. Look at the body like you ain't nothing more poor. You weak, it's kinda weird.
Really, I'ma feelin' like the only way for me to get away is a reported drink. That's more deceit,
more defeat. Is this really what I'm born to be? That's what you give it, thinking you're unique.
So poor, but I'm so wealthy. Need help, but you can't help me. What else can the world sell me?
Tell me lies.
I still buy it like I go on other stock, but it's not healthy.
I don't feel like I should.
You look so misunderstood.
And I wish I could.
But it's hard when I ate myself
Praided, died with my arms open
This year's weekend, I feel hopeless
And I wish I could, but it's hard when I ate myself
They might get the best of me, they know how to get to me
Suicide thoughts, they come and go like a guest to me But I don't wanna die, I just wanna get relief Hey, boss. I don't see you like I should
You're not always understanding
And I wish I could show
But it's hard when I hate myself
Crazy to be dead with my arms open
This year's it didn't happen for me
And I wish I could show
But it's hard of a night myself to me, but I can't have it. But I can't have it.
Keep speaking to me, but I can't have it.
But I can't have it.
Keep speaking to me, but I can't have it.
I don't feel like I should have.
You know it's always understood.
And I wish I could have, at a stop and I hate myself.
Ready to go, my arms are weird, faces keep doing, I feel okay.
And I wish I could have, at a stop and I hate myself. I hate myself I hate myself
I hate myself
It's kinda hard when I hate myself
I hate myself
It's hard when I hate myself.
Let's go fam.
Crypto fam radio.
Just getting started.
Retweet the space.
Happy Tuesday. Just a S-A-N-O-D-I-Q Yo, you wanna get it wrong with you Just a S-A-N-O-D-I-Q
Yo, you wanna get it wrong with you
Just a S-A-N-O-D-I-Q
Yo, you wanna get it wrong with you
And this girl walking in the ghetto
Looking good but looking down
What you said, come on Said she needed inspiration Oh, She got inside the car. She was a dark-skinned girl with really cool robes.
She was doing her best to try to hide her scar.
I don't really care about that dance.
Just get it all
Just get me home.
Boy, you making me feel
Oh, I'm sorry
Just get it all
Every time I take you out, friend
Catch them looking at your love
You know it never ever bothers me
Cause I know that I'm the one you're thinking of
I don't really care about that thing
Just get involved Just say one time So you make it with me
I'm sorry
Just get involved
Raphael just stopped in his tracks
Get involved and make it interesting
We're going to need it to present your day
We're in the belly so we might as well play
The way you die show to you the shit
The princess and the porco pit
You need to pull, but be rich and soul
Just get them all, but get in control
Just get them all, but get in control
Until the million people, yo, rock the wall
Oh, baby
Oh, baby
Oh, baby Oh, baby. Oh, baby.
Oh, baby.
Oh, baby.
Oh, baby.
Oh, baby.
Oh, baby.
Oh, no. I Right here in this moment as the moment passes The whole sunset's beautiful and beautiful
Oh, baby. Oh shit, this is nice. Oh What if there's no answer to the questions that keep us up tonight? It's just a fork in the road.
Tired, painting shadows in the light of light
There's a student that you desire
So much in this world
In this world, it's true that goodbye so
There's no one watching over
No judgment, no redemption in the end
Just a vivid and frozen
No matter where you go
Where you are, find a way to make some peace
It's how the sun is
I'll be running every time to see what this could be Thank you. Oh I love you.
And we are falling, falling, summer is ending.
The leaves are falling, falling, I'll give you that day.
And we are falling, falling, summer is in the same. It's all the sense of you, it's me, I hear you talk,
It's me, you take the shadows and the love of life,
It's me, you make the beauty, so love is in this world.
You listen to the truth the lights and the fire.
I'm not going to be at the same time.
I'm not going to be at the same time.
I'm not going to be at the same time.
I'm not going to be at the same time.
The leaves are the leaves of the sun.
You need to talk and read. Thank you. There you go. Thank you. Let's go Sam.
Tipto Sam Radio.
I'm your host Mountain Dew. Let's go, fam. Crypto Fam Radio.
I'm your host, Mountain Dew.
We're live streaming on X, on YouTube, and on TikTok.
That's right, fam. We're setting up the TikTok right now.
You're not tapping into Crypto Fam Radio on TikTok.
You are missing out, fam.
You are missing out.
All right, we're doing one more song.
Nico Leaf has some X issues, so he's coming right back
Retweet this face tag a few more friends
I think he just had to update his ex not sure
Glitching out hard. We'll bring you back me go you we'll figure this out you and me. Let's go. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Let's go, fam.
Let's go fam let's go
one more song
alright one more song
I don't know what's going on Nico
he keeps messaging me
he can't even find the space now
what's going on X
come on Elon
retweet the space
happy Tuesday
GM GM fam
let's go. Well, the purpose of a party is to have fun together.
And a successful party needs marijuana.
Marijuana.
Marijuana.
Marijuana.
Marijuana. Nico, Eith, are you there, fam?
Oh my god, I think I fixed it. I'm here. Can you hear me?
Yes, I can hear you loud and clear. Can you hear me, fam?
I can hear you. I fixed X. Oh my god.
How did you do it, fam? How hear you i fix x oh my god how did you do a fam how did you do it
i changed browsers i went from safari to chrome and it works fine oh yeah chrome everything works
with chrome it's amazing i always use chrome because i was i was like what the hell is going
on i've been trying to do a space all week and i have to see had the same issues yeah and i was like not today fam like this is a big space we're not going to do this today
and uh i was like oh hey just use chrome see if that works and i had to type in my pot like look
in look up my password because i've never used twitter on chrome. And yeah, it's working.
I'm here.
It even has a different layout.
Interesting.
You know, I would expect that,
because there's a different interface with Apple phones and Android phones.
So probably with different browsers,
I would say online browsers would be the same thing.
Makes sense.
Yeah, yeah. Are we ready to get started, fam? I'm ready to go. I would say online browsers would be the same thing. Makes sense.
Are we ready to get started, fam?
I'm ready to go.
I know we're at least 30 minutes late.
First time doing the space.
Didn't expect anyone to show up, honestly.
I never run spaces on Tuesdays.
Really?
Oh, yeah.
I don't do anything on Tuesdays. Well, usually I... What do I do on Tuesdays? I join other people's spaces. We used to have a big GPC space that happened at noon.
when Big Man X was running it,
yeah, this was like the Tuesday collective space, right?
That was the only kind of per se,
but I didn't host it.
I co-hosted.
So Big Man X hosted that space every Tuesday.
So we never really had a slot.
And then Tricky, big shout out to Tricky there.
I see him in the listeners' lodge.
Appreciate you, fam.
He usually runs spaces on Tuesdays and Thursdays
with CryptoFam Radio.
So in the afternoons, I think around, I forget, I think 5 p.m. EST.
He runs it like 5 to 7, I think, and then Mama Bear right after that.
So he thought that was a really good time slot, which is great, you know,
but he just had some personal matters to attend to.
So he had to take a step back from spaces.
But he'll be back, fam. He'll be back.
Don't worry we we love all
of our spaces here at crypto fam radio and uh you know they're all hustling and that's the beauty
of crypto fam radio is because we're all individuals here right but we're all working together as a
team uh we can all help each other out we can still uh cross uh pollinate collaborate uh and
as well as build within our own projects, right?
And build that community.
And that's a big part of why we're here today.
So I wanted to welcome my co-host, Nico Eath, to the stage.
Nico Eath, how's it going, fam?
It's good to see you and hear you finally.
Are you excited about the space, fam?
How's your morning going?
GM, GM.
You know, GM, GM, it's been a great morning outside of the technical difficulties.
But, you know, that's the beauty about life, right?
You get these challenges, you get these difficulties and you have to find your way through it.
You can't quit. You got to be resilient.
You got to, you know, put things that you wouldn't normally put together and be like, hey, let's find a solution.
And that's what we do as a community.
That's what we do as a project.
That's what I do in real life.
And, you know, today was one of those testaments.
Definitely, definitely, fam.
That's amazing.
So, yeah, I'm really excited to get started.
For those of you who don't know, this is a brand new space, Unlocking Ethereum, with Nico.Eth.
This is a sponsored space by Nico.
He's one of our paid sponsors here at CryptoFam Radio.
And I'll do a shameless plug real quick.
If you're interested in being a paid sponsor with CryptoFam Radio, just DM us.
We actually have three different packages.
Very affordable, especially for new coming projects. Just getting started. They want to start onboarding.
They want to start building community. That's what we're all about here at CryptoFam Radio.
So definitely tap into that. And then we also have this beautiful live space schedule up here
on the Jumbotron Fam. If we haven't rated it yet, please do. This is very important. Every single Sunday since like February of this year, I've been pumping these schedules out, right? Every
single Sunday and every week there's something different and exciting and new. It could be a
different space host. It could be a different space entirely, or it could be, you know,
different speakers, guest speakers left and right, you know, depending on which space you show up to
and support.
And the beauty of CryptoFam Radio is every space is a little bit different.
It's not the same space every single day that you go to.
And there's nothing wrong with those spaces, fam, but we are big believers in diversity, right?
And trying new things, adventuring.
And this is one of our new things, Nico E.
So definitely welcome. Welcome to the stage. Very excited to have you.
Yeah, I just I can't wait to get started, fam. I can't wait to get started.
It's been a beautiful day so far. I went on a quick, easy 10K run over here,
just kind of like around the mountaintop and uh yeah it was just nothing
but sun it's warming up now which is which is really nice considering you know it's been
getting kind of cold it's uh it's turning autumn the leaves are finally changing colors nicoleaf
and uh it's a beautiful thing fam it's a beautiful thing i've always loved loved the autumn season, right? The fall, the pumpkin spice lattes,
everything pumpkin and spice in autumn. I don't know. What about you, Nico? Is this
kind of your season or are you more of a summer guy?
I'm a summer baby at heart. Usually because that's what my birthday is. My birthday marks
the start of summer. So that's a cool thing.
I'm in a profession where, well, I'm in two professions where summer is the ideal spot for travel.
I live in a destination where it's always sunny.
So we don't get the changes in the weather as much.
We have summertime and then we have like a cool summertime.
So it is what it is.
Maybe get a little cold situation every now and again, but nothing serious.
So I love summer.
Boat.
Let's take out the boat.
Let's go fishing.
Let's go on the beach.
That type of thing.
Love it. Love it, it fam and you know what i'm pretty sure it's very temperate similar to hawaii climate and i've actually lived in hawaii
for a little bit i was there for about a year or so got to spend some time with the parents between
trips right after college i remember i was jumping around flying around in australia shooting weddings
and stuff.
Anyway, it was a stopover.
I remember my dad was in the military still.
You know, he was four years.
And there was an army base in Honolulu, right?
And it's a beautiful island.
All those islands are just really spectacular. But I could not stand the traffic.
And I could not stand the same weather every single day.
It was just the same weather. single day. It was just the same
weather. There were no seasons.
It was kind of boring.
It's not.
If you want to
experience the seasons, and that's the beauty
about having such a small world,
you can take a trip.
If you want to see the
fallen leaves, you want to play in the snow, you want to do all that, take a trip like if you want to see the fallen leaves you want to play in the
snow you want to do all that take a trip but like i grew up here i've been here for 40 years
you know 40 years um so i have an appreciation for it it's a it's beautiful. Except when there's a hurricane.
Like, hurricanes suck.
But, yeah.
Yeah, hurricanes do suck.
I grew up in Florida, so I know all about hurricanes, fam.
And they're not fun. And I hate the coming up to it.
Like, not the storm itself.
The crazy lines in the food store
just the craziness that ensues at shopping centers and and walmart and like the news and
it just seems like predatorial almost oh yeah the point of like it's a marketing scheme of like yes
buy more toilet paper it's the toilet paper you need get all the water and the sign by prices go up for that week
oh gas gas prices skyrocket then everyone's getting gas you know the gas is sold out oh my god yeah
yeah the plywood um yeah there's a bunch of just little things like that that just disappear
and you just can't find them kind of like covid COVID, right? It's kind of like mini COVID.
Every year in Florida is mini COVID.
We were actually preparing
ourselves for COVID with
all those hurricanes. Wow.
Because you get
sheltered in place
for a period of time and then
you have to get the okay before you can go
outside and see the destruction.
Wow. We were running little COVID tests in hurricanes. Never looked at it like that. you have to get the okay before you can go outside and see the destruction it wow we were we were
running little COVID tests in hurricanes now look at it like that you know the funny thing though
fam is that uh if you lived in Florida during COVID they were very lax with the regulations
okay like maybe not like the big cities Miami was definitely probably a lot more cautious than, let's say, I don't know, like
Panama City or Destin, right?
So those are smaller cities or Pensacola even.
Pensacola is not even that big of a city, you know, and they didn't really even take
it that seriously.
No one really wore masks.
Um, no one was like six feet apart from each other. I don't know. It's just like everyone thought it was a joke. And, um, I don't, I don't know if that has to do with the culture of that state specific state, uh, politically or socioeconomically. Like, I don't know. I don't know. Like it's, it's kind of a phenomenon because I was in Seattle at the time, right? We were taking it super serious. Like everyone's wearing masks, everyone, you know, they had this certain mindset, this culture of just trying to be safe.
No one was like six feet apart from each other.
I don't know.
It's just like everyone thought it was a joke.
Everyone was having sanitizer.
No one could find sanitizer.
I remember my ex at the time had to buy sanitizer on Amazon.
It was so expensive.
They freaking price gouged this shit out of this one liter hand sanitizer she bought.
I swear she paid like 60 bucks for it
i was like that's ridiculous can't believe we paid that much well that's a bottle though right so i
was like okay we'll go far we can put it in the little bottles you know how you do it right
right right right yeah a dispensary here um they they make this hard alcohol, this clear alcohol. It's really, really bad to drink,
but they turned it into a sanitizer,
and they started to sell all that,
and that kind of turned everything around.
So that's how we got our sanitizer supply.
I hope we could have drank it too.
I believe it.
I believe it.
If it's that clean, you should be able to drink it too i believe it i believe it if it's that clean you should be able to drink it
oh man it's just so funny how we're so scared of bacteria right we're scared about getting dirty
we're scared of you know it's this whole like gotta put you in a bubble helicopter
you know mom or dad like parenting style almost but but it continues after childhood into adulthood uh in the form of
propaganda with your government anyway i don't want to get into that family anyway let's not get
into that because this is a slippery slope this is one of those no i actually came from one of
those spaces earlier so i think that that kind of rubbed off on me still yeah um i i really enjoy
this one show it's called mandy's in the mornings
i don't know if you listen or if you've seen it it's a big popular x space but there's just a
bunch of maga people in it complaining about dems and libs and uh how horrible our system is and
how everyone's going to hell and a handbasket and blah blah blah you know it's like the same
story over and over you know like nothing new under the sun so yeah drain swamp pretty much uh they're all trump supporters
you know they all believe in uh uh i don't know freedom
values and beliefs and you know to the uh to the old the old system to old ward. I don't know. I don't know, fam.
It's an adventure in itself.
And spaces, that's the beauty of spaces too,
if you think about it, Nico,
it's just not crypto spaces, right?
No, not at all.
There's tons of spaces out there that you can learn.
There's fitness and lifestyle spaces.
There's mental health spaces.
There's news and current event spaces.
There's all these massive categories. And I don understand why elon just doesn't like fix twitter
spaces like what is like why did it take you 10 50 minutes to like finally grab a mic you know like
that's kind of ridiculous in my opinion and i'm like my starlink's good i double check no
obstructions today i've got great service um you know i'm live streaming on a computer and
then i'm live streaming on another phone and i have another phone where i'm talking to you in
spaces however it's still able to keep up the data is still running i'm not rugging um today's a
beautiful day and you know it's a beautiful day because of the blue sky right so the blue sky really helps and
then i'm also in an open area so uh those are the two big things you need for star like uh starlink
to be powerful enough so you can actually do all of all of these things at once and still and still
be able to hear you on the other end clearly like technology fam so i'm like thank you elon for this
but like elon could you work on twitter now
like just just make spaces better you know make spaces great again that's that's all i want like
that should be the ticker right there nico eve i think he thinks it's done because he um liberated
free speech like i use starlink as well and i i swear by it i have a residential starlink and a commercial
starlink and i swear by it um and even here when we had because we had some stormy weather
uh for the last i want to say week or so on and off and it didn't interrupt my spaces or anything
like that it held up even if it was overcast or was not. So yeah, you made Starling great.
SpaceX is awesome.
Let's liberate the key feature of X.
Let's make sure it's where it's supposed to be.
And then I think let's open up video spaces for everybody.
Let's work on that.
Let's not just have it premium for you. Let's figure it out for everybody. Let's work on that. Let's not just have it premium for you.
Let's figure it out for
everybody because I think that'll help
carry it to another level as well.
And compete over there with YouTube
and what's not.
That would be amazing.
The live streams on X aren't that
bad. I feel like they work
better than actual spaces
i know and you you get more viewers like i'm seeing 16 people supposedly are in the live
right now i'll post it up on the jumbotron fam and this this helps us to get maximum exposure
right within the space um this space is going to go on a podcast on Spotify, CryptoFam Radio.
So in case you miss it, I know everyone's got Spotify at this point.
Seriously, if you don't, you know, like if you use Apple Podcasts, listen to podcasts,
don't worry, I'm still working on that.
It's just Apple Podcasts has a process that I need to actually sit down and address and do
because there's other ways that we can promote the podcast, right?
There's other hosting platforms essentially. So, you know, my background is actually in the podcasting world.
You know, before I did crypto, I did a bunch of podcasts. Before I did that, I actually took a
radio class at the University of Alaska in Fairbanks, right? While I was studying journalism,
public relations. So Nico Eath, it's just a big passion of mine and having a college radio
station experience, you know, running it with a good buddy of mine back in the day.
And he was a poli sci major.
I was a journalism major.
And, you know, we had a lot to talk about.
You have a wealth of experience.
You've done a lot of stuff in a very short period of time.
I've done so much.
It's ridiculous.
But the thing is, fam, I feel like you need this.
If you're an entrepreneur, if you're a founder, not only do you need excellent customer service,
which honestly, that's priority one. And I've had that for over 10 years. I've had
literally so many different jobs around that customer service vibe, right? So I'm just like
used to it. And I think it's almost numb me to be a people pleaser, right? So I'm trying to
recapture my essence as an entrepreneur, as a founder,
has kind of like lasered me and it kept me more focused on like,
oh, try not to get pushed around.
Like just not, I don't know, just not in spaces, but also IRL.
Like some people just don't take you seriously
because automatically they just see the follower count
and they're like, oh man, he hasn't been around that long.
He can't be taken seriously. I don't know, This is in the back of my head, you know? So I'm like,
all right, we got to work on that. But I'm like, isn't it? Shouldn't it be more quality over
quantity too? Shouldn't it be based more off the interaction? Shouldn't it be based off more of the
content? You know, like if you really do DYOR on certain people and you want to partner with
certain people, especially crypto, you got
to look how active they are in this space, right? Someone keeps telling me that activity and
consistency matters. And it's true. And it should be quality over quantity. But unfortunately,
in the real world and crypto space, people like to crunch numbers.
And that's forced a lot of people to take some shortcuts.
And it's caused a lot of people to get rugged because they follow what they perceive to be success because they see the numbers.
And even before you could have paid for the verified badges, there was this little click.
Like if you couldn't get verified
you weren't anybody and a lot of people took shortcuts because they knew people so they were
getting the badges via nepotism and you know it really left a lot of people got left hanging
because they fell for those traps but i do do agree with you. I think everybody should do their own research
on crypto projects.
They should do their own research
on the people behind these projects
on people in real life,
and they will make more informed decisions.
So you got to slow down sometimes
and actually do a proper analysis
before you invest your time,
before you invest your money, before you invest your money, before
you invest your emotional well-being, your mental well-being. And that's true across the board,
whether it's investments, relationships, partnerships, it doesn't matter. You have
to still do the same thing. It's always quality over quantity for me.
Definitely, definitely, Nico.
That makes so much sense.
And I think a lot of people, they just don't want to wait. They don't want to take the time to do the research because, you know, that...
It's the fossil era, the microwave era.
Like, it's the microwave satisfaction.
No, no, ADHD era.
There we go.
That's what I was thinking. ADHD era.
Cause everyone blames their ADHD. I'm like, I can't focus on this for more than five minutes
before, you know, I got to do something else. You mean the self-diagnosed ADHD or the real ADHD?
Is there a difference fam? Oh, there's a big difference.
So as a student, I don't believe in doctors anymore honestly i'm on no i mean
a lot of people are being misdiagnosed um because it helps to sell the afterproduct
the counseling the medicine all that other stuff right uh the specialized schools, the testing, because it's a big rocket. And I work in education. I am someone
that was supposedly diagnosed late with ADHD. What did my counselor tell me to do? Get involved in
sports, find a way to channel your energy work extra hard to focus
put the principles in place that was some 30 years ago and it worked now oh my kid has adhd he can't
do this he can't do this he can't do this he can't do this he can't do this he has to be out he can't
have the two half days this is the medicine this I'm like, what are you talking about?
Slow down.
But it's a multi-billion dollar industry now.
It's sad.
It's sad.
I see it all the time.
And you know, anxiety and mental health is real.
I do believe in that.
But so many people are Googling and pretending like being doctors and self-diagnosing themselves.
And I'm like, no, get real help.
Figure out what the cause is.
Treat it wholly.
Don't take the shortcut.
Treat the whole thing.
You know?
But no, I'm just a guy.
I don't know.
I'm just Nico ETH on Twitter.
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know either.
But it's fun to talk about it, fam. For sure. Oh, for sure. I could go on a rant.'t know yeah i don't know either but it's fun to talk about it fam for sure
oh yeah yeah that's that's what i love to do in space is all ran for like five or ten minutes but
then i feel bad because i'm like i should give other people time to talk but i'm like hey i'm
the host i can do what i want is my space damn it but at the same time i'm like hey i gotta be
generous right we got listeners for a reason people really enjoy what we do and why we do it over here at crypto fam radio so just a reminder if you guys haven't
retweeted the space yet liked it and commented tagged a few more friends please do it's our
first time ever running uh this type of space unlocking ethereum with nico
sponsored by nico if you guys haven't grabbed a bag of nico yet what are you doing sam definitely
grab you small bag at least it's definitely going to millions man that's definitely a conviction
play nico e i'm really excited i was promoting you guys in a chill and chill space actually
earlier this morning yeah yeah i was commenting uh tagged put the space in the comments and put
your project uh pinned profile post in the comments and it your project pinned profile post in the comments.
And it was a massive shill space. I don't know if you know, he's a pudgy. I can't remember his
name. I retweeted his space. Give me a second here. Yeah, he was a pudgy guy. He was really
good at speaking. Very good speaker. And I'm trying to remember. Oh, he's on my other account.
That's right. I'm trying to remember his name. was like jay or joe no one wasn't joe
there's a lot of joes i know in this space but he wasn't one of them
uh but yeah he basically like it was an uh there was at least
i would say 500 people in the space so i'm just saying bro i i've repped you
i'm like i gotta help my paid sponsors here, you know.
But I told him about CryptoFam Radio, about the space we're doing today.
So hopefully we'll get some people in there.
I see a few other new listeners down here as well.
Appreciate you guys being in the space.
I see a soul moxie.
There we go.
Scooby.
That's his name.
Scooby.
Do you know Scooby?
No, I don't know Scooby.
Oh my gosh. Scooby's cool man okay check this out i'm gonna help him out here i don't usually do this up on
the jumbotron fam so he's looking for builders he's actually hiring people for real for real fam
it's amazing and definitely tap in if you're looking for work in Web3, Scooby has it. He's hiring reply guys, ambassadors, brand outreach managers, content writers, community managers, graphic designers, and moderators.
All you got to do is join his Discord, like, and reply if you're interested.
Don't miss out.
Anyway, so I'm showing him because, you know, he let me show on his space.
So why not, fam?
We got to spread the love, right?
We got to spread the love.
And I lost Nico E for a second, but I think he's back. What's up, fam? That's a brief second. I don't know. base so why not fam we got to spread the love right we got to spread the love and i lost nico
for a second but i think he's back what's up that's a brief second i don't know i think i think x
doesn't want me to talk about the power of ethereum no i don't think they know i think
blackrock is trying to suppress the information to keep the price down why blackrock oh blackrock is the
main manipulator in the crypto space of all time like i thought it was that michael saylor guy
no no no no
michael saylor has his part to play right he is He is a Bitcoin maxi, never sell, right? That type of thing. And I understand what he's saying, but also you're talking about a store of value to act as if like gold, the actual gold is in traded, is in stored, is in traded, bought and sold to keep the value going up. That's insane.
And I understand how scarce Bitcoin is and it can't be minted. But at some point,
you're going to have to leverage it in some way, whether you need to get a mortgage,
you want to invest, whatever. You're going to have to give up some level of custody
in order to get what you need. Or you might need to sell a fraction in
order to do what it is that you need to do, depending on how far the adoption goes. It is
what it is. Michael Saylor is his guy. But BlackRock, the owner of everything,
has decided to swoop down into our space and to bring corporate manipulation like never before.
And, you know, there's no crying in the casino.
You want your bikes to pump.
You want liquidity in.
You beg for institutional money, and here they are.
And you're seeing today the buying with multi-millions.
And then they spread a little news here to make everybody panic sell. They sell
a little bit here, and then they buy a bunch when you see that red candle going down. And I'm like,
why do people continue to fall for this trick? It's so old, and it's so simple, and it makes sense.
trick. It's so old and it's so simple and it makes sense. Why do you continue to fall for it
every single time? But it is what it is. If you don't know, you will fall for it.
Educate yourself and you will, you know, understand what a crash looks like and when
they are just manipulating the market and suppressing the price so their friends can get in.
How do you think or why do you think it's the same people every time it might just be
different people oh no no no no no no no no no they owe they have so much money and and it's so
it's it's like it's a blueprint they they say the quiet part out loud. They'll say, so, okay, say last week, right?
They would buy, say, 500 million worth.
And then if the price appreciates a little too much, because, you know, we're going to slash rates.
So a lot of people are expecting a bit of a run.
So they're like, okay, we have to make sure that we have enough.
So we're going to buy.
We're going to sell.
And those little normies and those paper hunts, they're going to sell along with us.
And then we're going to scoop up $250 million worth out of steel, man.
And the margins are always going to be there.
And when you look at their margins, you're like, how did they make this money?
Because you were stupid enough to sell and they bought it at a discount.
They start the red candle and then you extend the red candle and then they buy and they create the green candle and you buy at the top and then they start the process all over again.
And then they start the process all over again.
And then once the normies get into it, the people that they spread the word, oh, we have the ETFs.
Oh, we have this packaging.
We are tokenizing the stocks.
We're tokenizing the deeds in your real estate.
Oh, we have exposure to 401ks.
We're the established, trusted institutions, the banks, Wall Street, BlackRock.
Okay, trust us again and do this.
And then the normies come in
and then they profit a hell of a lot
because they would have helped to manufacture the 10X,
which is what they're doing now.
It's very difficult to move Bitcoin at these prices.
So you need a hell of a lot of capital, but it's not that much to move Ethereum.
And that's what they're doing.
But they're trying to position to make sure they have maximum exposure to it so they get maximum profits.
When if you know, you know.
Definitely, Nico.
Definitely.
I'm just looking at the market market today uh and uh it's looking pretty
red um red yeah why is the market down today that is the question according market cap uh in the
last 24 hours bitcoin's been going down a whole 1.26 percent ethereum's down 1.28 percent
it's at 4 281 dollars and 18 cents that's what's showing me on28%. It's at $4,281.18.
That's what's showing me on my coin market cap at the moment.
Might be a little off, but give or take.
But I want you to do something.
I want you to truly zoom out.
And this is something that I learned from Rodney.
I used to be very emotional with it.
Oh, it's down 0.2% on the day or whatever right.
Take a look at where it's how it's performing over the month and if the month is looking mine
how has it been performing over the quarter and if it's up on the quarter if it's up on the year, what are you crying about? You know what I mean? A year ago,
literally a year ago, we were what? We were at 60. I think so. Yeah, we're at 60. 60 or 70.
Everybody was screaming, oh, we need this to run. We need this to move. We need this to move.
And now you're at 110 and you're crying?
It's not like we're back at 60.
It's not like we flash crashed at 17.
And even if we did, that's an opportunity.
There's no crying in the casino.
You have to take it as it comes.
Right now we're doing price discovery.
We're literally trying to figure out in this administration, in this sacred timeline
that we're in where everybody is bullish. And all the news is bullish. The prices should be higher,
but you can tell it's being suppressed. So you have to figure out exactly where it is that you
want to be once this thing lands?
Do you want to be still on the outside looking in,
second-guessing yourself,
trying to figure out where the entry is?
Or do you look at these uber-wealthy,
super successful, greedy MFers,
and you're like, okay,
I'm going to hedge my bets on their greed. And if you bet on their greed, more than likely you will win. But if you think that you can outsmart them and short and
all this other stuff, you're going to get wrecked. It's in. The game has started and you need to
actually play your position. And Bitcoin, store of value as you get profits, put it in.
Cause it's only going to go up, especially when you have people like
Michael Saylor who has no kids to leave his wealth to.
Um, he, I think he's trying to be Satoshi 2.0.
I don't know.
And then look at Ethereum as the vehicle.
Everything's going to scale on Ethereum.
From its launch, it's never been down.
Yeah, you could say what you want about the gas fees.
We're talking about quality over quantity.
You get what you pay for.
It's stable.
It's consistent.
It's transparent.
It works.
When the scammers come to you and say oh i got drained
you could actually look on the chart say oh no you didn't get drained you sold you can tell where the
money is going and look at the old technology in the banks it needs to be changed and if they
change it to ethereum what's going to happen you have to ask yourself these type of questions. Just common sense questions.
And it'll point you in the right direction.
Common sense, Nicky.
That's what we need more of.
Common.
No emotions.
Just common sense.
That's right.
That's right.
That's all you need.
But people get too emotional because we're human, right?
We have emotions, but we have to keep them in check. We got to learn, fam. We got to learn over time. Sometimes we just don't need them, right? We can hide them or we can suppress them some way, shape or form. But in the end, yeah, it's personal choice. It's your choice. Whether or not you want to succeed in Web3, especially on Ethereum.
Come on, let's be honest.
Everyone builds on Ethereum.
There's so many Layer 2 chains out there that build on Ethereum.
So it's a no-brainer, honestly.
It's a no-brainer.
If you're a builder in the space, you should be on Ethereum.
If you're any kind of dev or even a social media manager, like I'm going to talk real quick about, you know, the projects that are being built on Ethereum, because I think they're doing amazing work there. Right. And I'm really excited for a lot of these crypto conferences that are coming up.
We've got ETH Denver. Right. So I'm really hoping to get to that one.
Nico ETH. I don't it's in February, and it's really cold in Denver in February.
And I'm not like a big...
I'm not cold.
I grew up in Florida.
You're not a snow person?
No, not really.
I lived in Alaska for a while, and I kind of got over that.
Because it's cold and dark, and that's just sad.
It gets to coasting.. And that's just sad. Like, it gets to the scene.
Well, that's Alaska.
Yeah.
And it's really cold, bro.
And I'm like, if it gets that cold.
And I know Denver gets cold in the winter.
Don't get me wrong.
I guess I just got to layer up.
You know, I got to take the bull by the horns and just stop making excuses.
Right?
And just do the do.
No crying in the casino.
Are you going to let a little snow, a little cold,
stop you from making multi-million dollar networks
and learning about all the great things that are coming?
Getting firsthand information about that small company.
Like I was so impressed in the
last Saturday space with the presentation from Brian, right? That was the first time I got to
listen to him and Paul and learn about Paul because when you're in other spaces, it seems so
rushed. He was able to sit, stop, articulate, like make a full presentation. And I was so impressed.
So why not take the chance, forget the cold, forget the snow and go and meet the next
paw and figure out how can you get involved with that?
That's what those events are like.
Remember a couple of years ago, I think, I think it was last year.
I saw something on one of the bigger comps.
I think the crypto Joe or something like that they were showing a clip an unearthed clip from one
of the first bitcoin conferences where bitcoin was worth like what a dollar a couple pennies
like there weren't like it wasn't super saturated and all the front row chairs were like empty it
was like barely like five people in
there. You can imagine being there and understanding and seeing and being able to invest at that
particular point, being armed with the knowledge at that particular point of what Bitcoin was going
to be and then sticking with it and diamond hunting from that point. Those are what those
conferences, not that you're going to find a diamond in every single one, but you have to arm yourself with information always.
Information is the true currency.
Definitely, definitely, fam.
The true currency is the value of your community, right?
It's not about all the money you can make.
Honestly, if I go to these events or when I go to these events, it's more about the monetary gain.
It's more about the connections, right? It's that your network is your network net worth,
right? Like we say this all the time in spaces, but it's so true. It's so true because, you know,
like I rather, I rather make friends with someone because, you know, like if that goes well,
then we could possibly work together right in a partnership
way and then through that partnership we can create something beautiful out of that we can
help each other out we can give each other value but on top of that um collective give each other
the alpha right so it's like we almost created a small little team of bandits right to kind of like
join the rebel alliance or whatever so uh that's how i
like to feel with the crypto radio society i don't know if you guys saw that communities tab up there
uh that's what we're all about being more intentional with partnerships in the space
if you haven't joined that community yet please do fam i'll be posting more regular updates within
that communities tab on that profile on crypto fam radio but in the
meantime yes nico eth i am just like blown away with how ethereum's performing we had a nice big
run up uh about a month ago uh and it's still sitting quite pretty you know over four which
in my mind like i've always seen ethereum as a stable coin right and stable coin
meaning like i think it was stuck at like 25 or 2600 forever like every year for the last seven
or eight years i remember seeing a post about that someone posted how ethereum so stable i'm like okay
if it's so stable why aren't more people building on it oh the gas fees right people complain about
the gas fees the gas fees and i'm like you know what the gas fees are better now if you go on ethereum you check that if you
swap tokens in ethereum it's not that expensive not as much as it was last summer oh my god i
remember those gas fees on uni swap that was ridiculous i paid upwards of like almost 30
40 to swap a token just to cover the gas fees like that's ridiculous honestly the thing is the swap i mean
it's like i don't understand the network how congested it gets i understand the whole traffic
thing you know if it's really really busy it costs more blah blah blah but yeah sorry not to go on a
ramp but what were you saying no i mean the thing about with ethereum they have taken the time to
address the gas fees right they've they've done what it is that they can't. So now,
I was talking to a class yesterday about web through on the whole, they were asking me,
well, it's easy to get money into crypto, how do you get money out? And I told them, well,
you pretty much pay to get it up. So you have to do conversions. In some cases, you may have to do a P2P type of marketplace because I use like Binance when I'm cashing out.
And I showed them and I told them, I said, if you are trying to get, say, $1,000 out of the space, because these are teenagers I'm talking to, right? If you're trying to get a thousand dollars in space and you put in initially $150, but you pay
overall to get it from crypto to your bank account, $60 in fees, did you win? They were like,
of course I did because I ended up taking out X amount. I made a ton of money and I just paid
this. You have to look at the gas fees as the price of admission when you're
looking at a quality project like Ethereum. I know everybody is spoiled with BNB, the pennies
and the souls and the pennies and the fraction of a penny and what's not. But what do you get with
that? Yes, you're able to build. Yes, you're able mint your nfts and it's helped those type of communities
and i appreciate that but when you're looking forward to where ethereum is going to be the
access to these trillion dollar industries and sectors like 401ks insurance wall street
real estate all this stuff you have to understand that they're going to, in a way, just price certain degenerate
activities out and you have to have the mentality to stomach it.
So yes, we're not going to see the $30 fees unless you're doing some high, high, high,
high, high transactions, but you just have to get with it.
The gas fees aren't that serious,
especially in the groundscape of what you're doing.
I know a lot of people were like minting NFTs
and they were trying to buy $20,000 NFTs
at that point in time.
And they were like, oh my God,
what are the gas fees?
$500, $1,000.
Because you're trying to rush,
get priority over someone else, player versus player.
You're spending $20,000. What are you looking at the gas fees for? You don't look at the taxes when you spend $20,000 in the real world and you see the sales tax. You just pay it. It is what it
is. You have to start to get accustomed. There's nothing in life that is free, especially when it comes to,000. And then when you cash out after gas fees and
conversions and get into your buying, maybe 10, 10, five, you're mad. What are you mad for?
You still got to buy. You still want. So there's a certain level of education when it comes to that
aspect, the price of admission, because these people have to have the validators.
They have to have workers.
They have to, like, there are things that these gas fees pay for
outside of just going to their bottom line.
They help run the system.
Ethereum, Sol, BNB, all.
I mean, yeah, they made it cheaper, but at what price?
At what price did they make it cheaper?
Remember Ethereum from it went up, it never went down, fully transparent.
Transparent.
When I looked at blocking by Nico, the CTO tokens until 2030, I looked at the best possible
self custody contract locker
on Ethereum, and I
did that. And I did it without hesitation
and without even thinking about it.
Because I could
trust Ethereum.
And you pay for that trust.
So stop looking at
nickels and dimes.
Stay focused on the bigger picture.
Definitely, definitely, Nico. We got got a few requests i'll bring you guys up too just a reminder this is uh an ethereum space with nico eath sponsored by nico
check them out on ethereum and uh in the meantime a big shout out to old crypto on tick tock. I see you 5k ahead for Ethereum. Yes, let's go fam
Love your positivity and optimism. Love it old crypto. Let's keep it going
Welcome everyone on tick tock really appreciate the support
Make sure you guys are following crypto fam radio liking engaging with each other
We're here to grow as a team.
Everyone on X Spaces, if you don't have a TikTok, get a TikTok.
It will help your crypto project grow.
I can guarantee you.
I can guarantee you, fam.
You don't have to show your face if you don't want to.
I literally just have the live stream going on the TikTok itself.
All right, Sal, I'm on TikTok now now sal was giving me shit earlier about oh you should
have your spaces life on tiktok i see other people doing it and i'm told
i really appreciate you sal you're amazing all right we got a new speaker to the house we got
spaghetti.soul what's going on fam happy tuesday what's your hot take on ethereum
i don't really have one i mean dude i'm just holding dude i'm the
kind of guy just dca's ethereum now i'm like done
i don't know dude i just dca ethereum bro like i've been trading for fucking over 10 years bro
i'm just buying and holding at this point. You know what I'm saying?
Is that the best strategy, fam?
I mean, I still date with a lot,
but not on Ethereum.
But yeah,
I don't have much to say.
The guy was talking about bear of entry or inherent cost and stuff.
I mean, I agree with all that.
Thank you, Spaghetti. DA is the way to go. I wish more people would systematically have a
plan and figure out how they're going to get in. But DCA is the best way. Um, yeah, you just take
half the amount you normally would buy it no matter what. And then when it takes up, when it
does a massive tank, you take half of what you stacked, drop it in there. And when it does a massive tank you take half of what you stacked drop it in there and when it does the inevitable second panic tank you put the rest and then you continue your dca
um and a lot of people they just they just ape everything and then it's like
okay well six months from now when it tanks you only have like 300 bucks from your check that
you can put in i mean well you know yeah but eth Ethereum doesn't tank from here.
I think this is the foundation floor. I think for a lot of people before the run, like it's been moving sideways.
It was actually under.
I think in April it was, what, 1,400?
That's insane.
And a lot of people didn't take advantage.
And now we're back to close to all
time highs and i did the finger air quotes there um and it's trading sideways being manipulated
pressed down whatever you want to call it this is the perfect time to dca into a project like this
i did the same dca strategy that he's talking about with Crow. Even when it shot up to a dollar and then crashed all the way back down
with the FTX bullshit and almost kind of went out of the business
in the FTX fallout, it was a great time to DCA.
It was at five cents.
It's now at, what, 27 cents and looking like it's marching its way in.
You have to take those positions in the way he said it you you have to do it it's not it's people look at it as a quote-unquote
expensive but if you have a plan you could do it on your budget whether it's okay i get paid 300
bucks and i wanna i think i can invest because i live with my mom i think i could invest 100 bucks
a week. Figure out
what the true conventions are. Get yourself a fraction of Bitcoin, get yourself a fraction
of Ethereum. I like to do exchange stable coins, crow is one. And then you take your risks with
your meat. You've got to figure out those proportions and do what you need to do.
Bro, if someone lives with their parents and has a job, they better be putting a minimum
of 500 per week, bro.
I'm telling you, just 500 a week, live on peanuts, bro.
It's okay.
You'll live like a king because none of us have girlfriends.
I'm kidding.
It's a joke.
But anyways.
Listen, since getting exposed to crypto in 2020 um i've been
married from seven 2016. don't tell my wife i could almost mess it up i have two kids all my
money goes into crypto and if i need to spend something i take it out when something spikes
so that way i have very little losses but i'm at the end of the day i just end up not spending
money because like yeah what the fuck do i want yeah i mean that's that's how you that's how you
have to look at it you know that's how you have to look at it like i took out 15 bucks today to go
buy some food like my like my i leave my bank account zero i'm not telling anyone else to do
this my bank is always almost always zero like i'll have like a couple grand in it for a week and that's it you
know bro it's like all of it goes to crypto just buy buy buy buy buy buy buy do you have like one
of those like crypto cards because i know crypto.com they have one of those cards where you
could like fund it and then you can like have to pay and stuff like that that do you yeah i have the basic one or whatever the coinbase offers so i just transfer to usdc and immediately use my card
and then i have uh but but i use a lot of these different apps which i used to be against so i was
always very technical and you know i used to work for like processors and stuff and to be honest
with you man like i was always against things like robin hood and cash app and venmo and
whatever the fuck has paypal whatever but they're like necessary evils and then on top of that
while crypto's in the kind of space it's in right now you can just use them and no one really gives
a fuck and you know like you can worry about taxes later i'm joking no one said that but um
but yeah i use cash up a lot but um the main thing is like um robin hood like you can onboard
for nothing bro it's so great like just onboard usdc for zero and you don't have to use some
third party like other app you know and but uh i have coinbase and crypto.com i just don't use
the crypto.com one i don't know why i just don't nice nice no what you're doing is well i think it's smart i think it's sound and as long as you have access to it
for when you need things that's the most important thing because you know with with certain things
especially when you're trying to go out against player versus player and you're trying to cash
out amounts of profits you will pay certain fees to get out. It takes time. There's no urgent. One of the things
that we're working towards as we gain value is, again, having one of those limitless debit cards
attached to your portfolio project so you could spend your money in real time on whatever it is
that you need, whether it's noodles, whether it's peanuts, whether it's lunch at that restaurant down the street, a down payment on a car, if you want to, whatever it is that you
want to do in real life, you're able to do that without the headache and the heavy fees of trying
to fight against, say, a Michael Anderson to get this massive chunk out of the project and do what
you need to do. So I definitely agree with you, man.
And it helps with stability as well.
So we want to make sure that we put the best possible pockets together
when we have value to do exactly what it is that you're doing right now
with the cash app, Robinhood, Venmo.
Use crypto.com cards, man.
Don't hate on them.
Don't not use it. don't let it collect yeah
I mean someone else because a coinbase when they have issues which is rare but when they have
issues it is the worst possible experience I mean this really quick I want to make something very
clear I'm not just being exaggerate of whatever for the sake of the conversation I literally mean
it is the worst experience that you'll ever have dealing trying to get them to fix your issue that, you know, you can't fix yourself that they're not going to fix without your intervention.
Like it sucks, bro.
Like Coinbase, for how much they're worth, it should literally be criminal to have customer service that poor.
They can't do anything.
Like they have no access to do anything.
Their escalation reps have to do everything for them.
Like it is terrible um you know i'm not for a ton of regulation but that is something we should
regulate like if you're going to be as big as coin as coinbase like you need to have like
checks and balances for your for your customer care departments that know that they are up to
snuff and don't suck you know what i mean they're just, that is one of the things I agree with
if we're going to do all this regulation
because it's terrible.
And yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.
A couple of years ago,
I did something really, really stupid on finance
in the middle of the night.
I was trying to get out of, say, Tama
before, during their Las Vegas space,
because I saw the writing on the walls that I
needed to get out of that. And I accidentally sent, I don't know how I copied the contract
address and stuff like that. And Bridget was impossible. It was not a copy, the contract
address for another coin that I was looking at. And I sent it there. And Binance's customer care people were absolutely not helpful at all, didn't provide any
level of support. The person from the coin, the CEO, was more helpful to me and gave me more
answers in real time than they did. And I kind of understood how contract addresses actually work
and yada, yada. And I had to off because there was there's no technology that could help extract um um tokens from once you
said the contract wallets it's it it operates like a burn wallet so that was that i couldn't
get that straight answer from finance for whatever reason um but i do agree with you if you are going to and i think this is a game that they play they
they try to keep um as much in as possible and they create these bottlenecks of problems where
they can't solve your issue within this particular time so they have time to do what they need to do
but if you're going to be worth uber billions of dollars and you're going to take in people's
hard-earned money when they have an issue
you need to resolve it right then and there you have the technology on your side you should have
the staff on your side and the the call centers should be in the space that you service so if
you're in the u.s and you're in washington you should be talking to a u.s resident they should
because what i find when they outsource a lot of these call centers and banks are guilty of it all big tech is guilty of
it they they outsource these call centers to these regions where there's a huge cultural difference
and there is no expediency there's they don't understand what you're saying, not because, you know, it's English or whatever,
but there are different ways of communication.
And sometimes it's like, hey, and I get it because they're paying the base wage and what's
not.
So they don't know a certain, they're not educated to a certain point about what it
is that you're talking about.
And they have, like you said, they have to escalate it to their managers
and then maybe their managers know.
But the trick is to keep the money in the system,
to keep the customer frustrated.
Hopefully the customer goes away.
We can put them on hold for 15, 20 minutes, 30 minutes.
Oh, we'll resolve your issue in 24 or 48 hours.
It's a game that all of them play.
But I think what it is,
is it's just making sure that you have.
And that's one of the reasons why the limitless debit card for our project is the way to go.
We don't want to be that hindrance.
We don't want to have the scale to have X amount.
We want to put the power in the hand of the investor to do what it is that they want to do.
And the quickest way is to ensure that, hey, if you have an emergency and you need to get
cash out, you could take it to any ATM.
You could take it to any portal, top and pay, whatever the case would be, and get your situation
dealt with without having to deal with another human.
And because I live in the real world and I know what it is.
I have two kids.
I know what you need in an emergency.
I know you need to have access to your capital, all of it at one particular point in time.
And that's what we want to do here with Niko, with Ethereum.
And as these different players like Visa and MasterCard continue to come into the space to extend their lifeline because they understand that crypto is not going anywhere and it's just
growing. Yeah, I actually want to speak on what you were just saying. We don't have to draw this
conversation out or anything. It's probably not the most interesting thing to talk about, but
there's some nuances to what you were saying. So I've been in the corporate world a long time.
And back in the day, I used to have to do customer care and stuff. And I trained a lot
of employees on how to do their job and shit like credit card processors and stuff but here's what
here's what i'm getting at dude the reality is man there are companies who are in the boat that
you're talking about where it's just a game to them right but um but but really bro like it's
it's incompetence from the top to the bottom that's really what's happening and what's happening is
they're either hiring someone to manage a team to get the team together and do it or they're
outsourcing all together like you said and um it's not necessarily um cultural nuances that
are causing a lot of these issues like you had part of what you were saying because you know but
it's um a lot of it really dude has to do with the fact that they don't give a shit um like it's just like when you hire an american at minimum wage or 12 or 15 bucks an
hour like they're not gonna give a about what's going on they do not care whatsoever and when
you finally find the one that cares you know again it's gonna sound mean but it's true they're not
they're not that bright they're they're usually the bottom of the barrel and they just want to
be there to learn and that's not the guy you need running shit. Like, and that's so sad because when you finally find the one who knows shit, they're, they don't want to be there either because they know everything. Like why would they want to be in a customer care role or managing a customer care team or whatever? Right. Or telling the, the, the, the guy who runs that whole department like that everything's fucked right then you know
they don't want to be that guy for any less than a couple hundred k a year or whatever so
um it's it's just a bad situation all the way and what they're going to learn the hard way is if
you're going to have people and not thoughts in the future right like but people do this job you
have to double their pay and then hire half the workforce. That's just true. Like, and it's not about saving money.
It's about hiring the right people.
And like, I was going to say one more thing.
Like they don't, they don't understand.
The big problem is they can't comprehend what you're saying because they can't comprehend anything about what you're saying, like about the topic.
Like they, like when they're hired on they know very like one-dimensional
things about what they're told about the job and about oh go to this panel and click this button
that's all they know when they go home they don't do they don't research how blockchain works exactly
it's just a script they don't like they don't give a fuck like like just like just like when you go
if you have to if you have to call if you have to call CVS Caremark, which is one of the biggest, you know, customer care like situations, you know, trying to say like, like they have a big department for CVS, right?
Well, you call them the, what you really think that that Gen X person making 15 bucks an hour is going home and researching how medicine works.
So that way they can answer you know why you didn't
get your shipment or something or whatever you know no they don't care like they don't and that's
okay but that's the reality you know they don't want to know i'm in tech no one cares about
learning dude they do dude i'm in a department where like like i don't have to do amount calls
or anything but like no one cares about like i'll message like one of my teammates, which we never talk, by the way.
But I'll message one just on a whim and like try to like chop up a conversation.
And they can't even comprehend what I'm talking about because they don't do any tech when they go home.
You know what I mean? So it just sucks, bro. It's just the reality of the workforce.
And it's so bad. It is so bad. bad it is so bad i definitely agree with you and you know
the thing is we're in this this is a space to have these nice well-spaced conversations i don't want
to i don't want anybody to think that you're coming up here and you're boring with especially
when you're talking about real world scenarios and adding value to the conversation take your
time we're having a conversation and this is how this space
is going to be done. This is not a hyper chill space or whatever. We're here to learn from each
other. We're here to have these conversations in real time and add value to ourselves. You know
what I mean? So don't feel pressed about it. I really enjoyed your questions and your comments
and having that conversation with you, Spaghetti.
Dude, I spoke with eight customer care reps.
This is an exaggeration.
It could have been nine.
I don't know.
Maybe it was seven.
Who knows?
But it was at least seven or eight customer care reps
to get like $100 from Coinbase or $120 or whatever it was.
When they finally transferred the amount
um i told her on the phone i was like respectfully like i know this isn't your direct fault but you
weren't capable of understanding my issue so it is partially to you i just wasted eight hours of
my time for 120 and i live in america you might as well keep that money and that's what i told
her straight up i was like my saturday is gone
i was like i started this at 11 and it is like six or seven or eight or whatever it was at night bro like i was i told her i was like respectfully i don't even think i want the money at this point
like thank you but like i'm just gonna like watch tv and go to bed like you know what i mean oh wow
TV and go to bed. Like, you know what I mean? Like I'm going to go get,
like i'm gonna go get you
but, but, but, but they just don't get that. Like they don't get how,
like you said earlier, how important it is. And, uh, it was the re here,
here I'll say really quick. Uh, well,
the situation for me was that I had transferred some money to them and it just
stopped from their centralized wallet.
So I looked on chain and it went from my
you know custodial wallet which they have right to their sent to their centralized wallet and then
there was no similar transfer out from there it just stopped right and um so i called them and
told them that and they couldn't comprehend what i was saying they they literally couldn't
understand yeah they were like what do you mean?
Like, if you put it in your wallet, we don't have access to it.
And I'm like, no, it's not my wallet.
It's like your app.
Like, I sent it to your address that, you know,
the custodial wallet that you have for me.
And because I used the word wallet,
they thought I was talking about, like, my own private key.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
So they could not comprehend that it was a them problem
so so like when they finally figured it out she gets back on the phone and by the time she got
back on the phone like eight fucking reps later um the like i'd already got the notification that
i got the money and and and and i told her straight up i was like it was an issue with
your system wasn't it and she was like huh and i was like i'm not the only one having sui usdc problems am i and
she said no it turns out it was a widespread issue all day and i'm like and you couldn't
fucking figure it out like jesus christ dude just say that geez yeah i know exactly what you're
talking about know exactly what you're talking about k Know exactly what you're talking about. Crypto fam, what's going on, man?
You've been quiet for a minute. Chime in.
Yo, fam.
I was going to touch on the customer service aspect of the crypto industry.
So I'm actually a big supporter of crypto.com.
It was one of the first wallets I secured.
And yes, I do have the crypto.com card, the Ruby one. I had to lock up 500 cro for it.
I've got less than two months to go before it unlocks. Not sure what's going to happen though,
but I've actually been really, really happy with cro the last few weeks for all you cro fam,
cro maxis out there. I'm sure you've heard the news, but I'm not going to go into that. I want
to go back to the customer service portion though. And I had quite a bit of time. This is before I got my
crypto.com account back too, because I had to do a few things. I don't know. I got locked out
somehow. So I had to contact customer service. And I was really frustrated. I literally, I'm just
going to join in with you guys too, how horrible crypto.com's customer
services, because I thought it was really good at first because they're very responsive.
I didn't have to wait a long time.
Right.
And I was like, okay, this is, this is cool.
Right.
This is cool.
I like it.
You know, and they got back to me pretty quickly.
But the thing is, I didn't quite resolve my issue the first day.
Right.
So I had to come back, talk to them again another day.
And the thing that's so frustrating about this whole process is if they take longer than 24 hours, they have to send you another verification pin that goes into your email to verify.
So every single time you talk to a different sales agent or a different agent every time.
So they have to go back to your problems.
Sorry? And it feels like you're shouting over from square And you saw they have to go back to your problems. Sorry.
And it feels like you're shouting over from square one.
Yes.
Yes.
I had to do this.
I feel like this is the definition of insanity,
fam.
I did this for literally weeks,
months even,
but I finally did get my crypto.com account back.
It was actually a scammer that I'd taken over before and taken my email and
impersonated me. Anyway, I don't want to get into that basic wallet security I didn't know back in
2020, 2021. So now I know much better, but it was a process, right? And I was able to finally get
back into account and my wallet and everything was gravy.
But like I said, it literally took, I would say, almost two months to actually do that because I was going back and forth with different people, different time zones, different AI bots, different verification pins.
It was a whole hassle.
Can I ask a question about that?
So frustrating. What's up, fam?
So I want to ask ask a question about that? So frustrating. What's up, fam?
So I want to ask you a question about that.
So the biggest problem I see with customer service reps, besides the obvious, like,
you know, lying by omission or being lazy type shit, but a big problem I see is like, you'll say one thing and they'll answer a different question you didn't ask.
And like, I get how that would be valid for someone who like,
let's say they're talking to a customer who has zero knowledge about the space.
They fucked up and they're calling you to ask how they fucked up.
Then that would make sense, right?
Cause they're not asking valid questions.
Like that's a big problem.
Customer care has, has, I'm sure y'all are aware of that is they get idiots all day asking them invalid questions.
Sorry if that's rude, but it's true.
But then you get someone like us who actually asks them a valid fucking question.
They just can't comprehend it.
And then they answer something that you're like, I didn't even ask that.
Like, why are you answering that?
Like they'll come back 15 minutes later, like answering something you didn't even ask, bro.
It's like, what the fuck?
You know, I don't know if that was happening to you or.
Oh, yeah, all the time.
And I take breaks, too.
Yeah.
The reason it drew out along is because I would get so frustrated.
I wouldn't call him for like a week or two, you know, and then and then I'd be like, all right, all right.
And I'd be like, all right, all right, steam down, simmer down.
I steam down, simmer down.
I'll try again.
You know, and it's this constant going back in motion, and it just wasted so much time.
And I, you know, like, I value my time, right?
So if I'm sitting, waiting, going back and forth, sitting, waiting, it's just, it's the
definition of insanity to me anyway.
So it was very frustrating.
And yes, I totally agree with you.
And I was thinking off the top of my head, what could we do? How could we solve this issue? And nine times out of 10,
it's really up to the person who has the issue, right? Like what does he do about that issue?
Because everyone solves their problems differently, right? Like maybe some people,
they tried the customer service route after 10 minutes, they said, fuck it. They go to Reddit,
you know, they do an angry Reddit post, then they actually get some valid answers
because there's actually knowledgeable people on Reddit, maybe in crypto, and then they
just crowdsource and then they found the answer.
I don't know, some people are like that, right?
So from just one perspective, but I'm saying there's multiple different avenues that we
could approach this, right?
Customer service is not for the faint of heart. Like I mentioned before, and you probably heard me earlier, Spaghetti, I was talking about,
I've been in customer service for 10 plus years, like IRL, retail to restaurant, you know, service
work. You know, I've literally done it all. I've actually been a UA guy where, yes, I had to sit
in front of a, well, I had to give them the, basically I had to watch them, make sure they
didn't, you know, when they're going pee and when they were doing a pee test, because,
uh, when you're going through DUI classes or whatever, you know, you got to take a pee
test all the time.
Anyway, I was one of those UA guys that had to like, you know, make sure they weren't
doing anything shady, right?
I had to be with them in the bathroom.
Um, it was actually really, uh, there's a specific job out here where you to observe you're an observer right like it's it's
part of uh it's a government job right like it's an actual trip so yeah i actually had to watch
guys piss and in cups and i had to seal it i had to you know take all the precautions it's um
it's actually taken really seriously you know it's part of the court system and whatnot. But anyway, so the point is customer service is important, right?
24-7, 110%.
And if we can get that right, which honestly, I don't think humans, like people have done
a great job, unless you're Apple, right?
Like I know how Apple did initially.
I feel like they had one of the best customer service when their first Apple stores opened
That was amazing.
As soon as I walked in, I was being helped.
Like, man, talk about customer service there.
That was probably one of the best customers I've ever had when I had laptop issues.
Yeah, but bro, isn't it like respectfully?
I mean, it's all like fake customer service through them until I mean, because like once the real issue happens, like a tech who gets paid three times as much touches your computer and they tell you to come back right i mean that's fine that's not necessarily
a bad problem but like i think what you're experiencing was like kind of that facade of
customer service wow because because because because like they're because they are known for
and again i'm not trying to speak ill i'm just saying trying to put it realistically like they
are known for um not fixing minor issues and just you know requiring you to buy more and that wasn't just from a money
perspective like for them to make more money it was the fact that it's almost impossible to have
that many reps that know actually how a computer works you see what i'm saying yeah i know i know
what you're talking about that's so true but it made me feel it made me feel good spaghetti it does feel good and it made me feel validated to be good that that's all matters man the experience
it made me feel good right now we're talking about web3 yeah we're talking about web3 and
how do we fix the customer service issue what i did when i had mine it made me pro self custody, right? So I started to look at how can I keep my assets in my jurisdictions, I take the responsibility, if I fuck up, it is my fuck up, I cannot allow someone in India, Iraq, the Amritus, African continent continent someone in trinidad and tobago to trip me up
and to piss me off when i have my issues because and that's when i started to take my assets off
of crypto.com and binance and just use them as a cash out situation so the majority of my stuff
are in my walls outside of maybe the stable coins offered by those individual
centralized exchanges, right? And I only use one to two. I try not to like
farm use and whatever based on the jurisdiction, right? Then I said, okay, how do you cash out?
I try to figure out how can I cash out with limited third-party interference.
You have to educate yourself to the point where you don't need people to do what it is that you need to do.
So I looked at when they took the Swift away because, you know, it was so easy to cash out.
You go to Jazz, go to Binance, have them send it to your bank account wherever you
were in the world. Crypto.com, I've never really cashed out with them. Their one is a little bit
weird and drawn out. And outside of using the card, that's what they're used for. And I figured
out my own system. And that's what you have to do. You have to learn the in and out of this space,
how to get money in, how to get money out. Because if you ever get in the jam and they take the
rails off, you have to know what it is that you're going to do. You don't want to have your money
tracked in the digital space. So you have to arm yourself with information, similar to what
Spaghetti was talking about. The problem with the people that work in the middle, they don't give a shit.
They don't go home.
They don't go and learn blockchain.
They don't really go beyond their script.
Their list of questions that they're trained quote unquote air quotes to, to answer.
And if they can't answer this, they're stuck.
They don't arm themselves with more information.
So you as the individual, you as the investor, you as the pro crypto person have to arm yourself with so much information and give yourself the skill set to maneuver and fix these.
Do it yourself. Fix it yourself, but not put yourself in those situations.
You have to understand, hey, I have to be more vigilant. I have to double check when I'm sending money so I don't make those mistakes.
I have to ensure that my wallet is in compromise because I am too greedy and I'm going to click
the link and do the free mint all the time and get my stuff to rent.
No, you have to do what it is that you need to do to empower yourself to keep the middle
mind out because every single exchange, the game is simple. You watch the
wolf of Wall Street. Get the money in, never let the money leave. That is the game. Get the investor
in, never let them leave. Let them do store of value in one of our products. Let them lock their
supply down for X amount of years. Let's give them a little bit of interest, more interest
than any bank will give them. Whatever it is that we have to do to keep them locked in, let's keep
them locked in. You have to arm yourself with information. You have to understand and you have
to do the trial by fire. Sometimes you're going to get burned, but you will understand. Cut the
middleman out. That is the only way to get rid of the shitty Web3 customer service from whether it's
Coinbase, Binance, Crypto.com, Kraken, BitMart, whoever. And then you as the customer have to
fight. You have to agitate to them to let them know this bullshit that you're pulling is not
okay. There needs to be more accountability in Web3, whether
you're talking about centralized exchanges, KOLs, influences. When the bullshit happens, we have to
show them with our money that we're not going to tolerate this bullshit. And that's what the
centralized exchanges. In the crypto space, crypto Twitter, TikTok Twitter, Instagram Twitter,
In the crypto space, crypto Twitter, TikTok Twitter, Instagram Twitter, YouTube Twitter,
we have to starve these shady MFers who continue to create tokens and rug and do all this other
stuff.
We have to starve them of information and not information, attention, sorry, and then
put that attention where it matters into spaces like this, where you can articulate yourself,
where you can learn, where you can be heard,
where it's not all about hype,
where there's no nepotism
and everybody has a chance to speak
and do the things the right way.
I see a Shibu Inu guy, like this,
I would rather this any day of the week,
any day of the week,
than to go into a space with 500 people and be spaghetti
on the wall. No. Let's learn from each other. Let's hear each other out. Let's advocate. Let's
be a pain in the ass because unless we use our money, our resources, and our attention,
they're going to continue to do the same thing because they feel that's okay, because they see no disruption in their bottom line.
So they're not pressed to fix it. And it'll take time for people to catch on because some people
are stupidly loyal. They are stupidly loyal to broad names, unfortunately. But for the ones where, hey, they're like-minded people, you will see it catch on and catch on and catch on.
To boycott this and blah, blah, blah, you have to probably market it a certain way so people catch on because they like.
There's comfort in crowds for a lot of people because a lot of people are cowards.
So it is what it is.
That's what you have to do. That's how you find a solution cut out the middleman educate yourself
do a lot of self-custody and then when you need to cash out you know where to go
and find projects like nico because this is a nico sponsored space and we're the nico on ethereum
with the red hoodie find projects like nico that believe in structure, that believe in quality
over quantity, that believe in the slow grind because the slow cooks are the bigger cooks,
and build the right way. Don't look at the flash in the pan and the hype. They're going to be the
up and down. Look at the ones that are building for the long term. They're very few in the space.
This is a shib.
This is shib bender.
Shiba Inu was my first play.
If Shiba Inu was a rug pull, I would not be in the space today.
You have to find those slow burners, those ones that are cooking for the long term,
that is going to do things the right way.
Because at the end of the day, they're the ones the normies are going.
If you want to really grow your bike, the normies have to feel comfortable.
They have to feel comfortable coming into space.
They have to feel comfortable investing.
They have to have that first one to two.
You may have one to two plays from the normies and both of them have to be wins.
So you have to muzzle the bullshit.
You have to muzzle and chain the bad actors.
And we know who they are, whether they be centralized exchanges or KOLs and influencers.
We know who they are.
We have to starve them of attention.
We have to starve them of our money.
And we have to put our money to work where it's supposed where it's going to work
and where people are going to gravitate to and put our best interests at heart it's very hard
to do that type of research it takes time but you have to do it deliberately spaghetti you're
definitely 100 right crypto farm you're 100 right but this the solution is self-custody
doing the right things doing doing the right research,
starving people of attention, and
starving them of the money.
All right?
That's all I got to say about that. Nico,
Eve to the world.
Well,
fuck. Oh,
what I was going to say is something that would be
nice is to find one of these banks that can issue Visa debit cards that are reloadable, that don't pass like an extra fee onto you. So then you can just onboard for their fee and then they'll just take the hit on that or break even.
blow up in a heartbeat in crypto.
It's not the best option, but, you know,
I don't know if you guys are aware with a lot of the changes and stuff,
you're going to see a lot of these little companies start up
that partner with like credit unions, banks, whatever.
And they offer a way to off board through prepaid cards.
And that's going to be more of a thing because, you know, it's allowed now.
So as long as you can partner with the bank
and the bank allows you to partner with them,
it's like, you can provide that service,
but they have to charge like a hefty fee
until you do an extreme amount of volume.
And that's the only problem.
And so maybe there'll be like a bank that steps up
and says, we'll just break even and provide service.
And that'd be cool.
That'd be another offboarding option.
But I like doing the way I do it now.
It's free.
I'll let the IRS track me for free off-boarding.
I don't care.
It is what it is.
And what I was going to say really quick,
to give a good analogy,
and then I'll shut up about the customer service stuff.
You know what it's like training one of these people?
I'm telling you, it's so bad.
It's like, okay, let's say you're training someone to drive and they just can't understand
really basic concepts.
And you look at them and you go, hey, when you come to a stop sign and it says stop,
you stop the vehicle, right?
And then they claim that they understand. And they're like, okay, okay, okay, okay. It says stop. I better stop, you stop the vehicle, right? And then they claim that they understand
and they're like, okay, okay, okay, okay.
It says stop, I better stop, right?
And then you go about your day, right?
And then next thing you know,
they're calling you like,
hey, the stop sign's green.
Do I stop at it?
Yeah.
And then you're like, does it say stop?
Oh, man.
That's what it's like dealing with a customer what that that's that's what it's like dealing
with a customer care rep internally that's what it's like it sucks like they can't they just can't
do basic things bro it's so bad sad bro i don't get it like you know you're yeah it's what i think
you're slowly grugging but i get what you're saying it's and it sounds like you're yeah it's what i think you're slowly grugging but i get what you're saying it's and
it sounds like you're really scarred with this man but you're absolutely right well y'all talking
about fixing it i'm telling you bro the only way to fix it is to hire like really competent people
and overpay them it's just the only way well not overpay but have more competitive pay. I've had the experience with trying to overcompensate with pay.
It doesn't necessarily motivate.
It'll attract people.
But the whole pool of employable people is going downhill in the Western world.
That's just the way it is.
People want to make money, but a lot of them don't want to work.
And I'm just putting on my business owner hat i've done the um overpaying based on the average like going well and above
to be like hey i want to be a great boss i want to know i want to be known as someone that does
more than fair wages but actually puts people in a position to win. And that will bite you in the ass more than an,
especially twofold because you don't necessarily,
you attract decent people or on paper,
decent people by the resume,
but they don't show up to perform,
to take things for granted.
And then your bottom line shrinks.
So I'm talking about it from that particular point of view.
And I know what you, i understand what you're saying too
and i get it but it's it's a delicate dance you just have to do your own research and honestly
flip the coin to hope that you are trying attract to right people and understand that it's they're
not going to be there for life like that whole i'm going to stay with a company for 15 20 years thing
that's over like attract the right people.
Hopefully you get them on a three to five year contract, empower them as much as possible,
help them move on and then say, Hey, look at what we were able to help produce. This could be you
in five years, come and join our company. This is going to be your pay, y yada yada do that right um but yeah man it it's
it's an interesting um time to be in this particular space um i'm seeing a lot of things
that we thought were fanciful like fantasy two years ago it it was impossible. I remember talking to my very own BTC Maxi on my podcast
just a year or two ago before I took a break.
And I told him that Visa and MasterCard,
he looked at them as dinosaurs that are going to die
and Bitcoin is going to kill it and all this other stuff.
And I told them, you always have to bet
and hedge your bets on greed.
These people are not going to die. The world is in debt pretty much to them. They're not just
going to fade. They're going to evolve and adapt. And that's what we saw. To your point about the
bank that's going to take a hit, not necessarily a bank, but someone that understands that, hey,
there is the investment on the other
side. One of the things that we want to do, and I'm going to leverage myself and my network a
little bit because I'm not fully, I'm not docs. I'm docs to CryptoFarm Radio because we had to
have a conversation in order to have this partnership. But I plan to do it myself at a $5 million market cap. And why I'm doing that is
because I need to prove to the people that are around me that there's value in this space,
there's value in this project. I could take this on. A few years ago, after COVID had started to
relax, I was talking to one of my private banking friends, older,
we interact with this older couple. And he was talking about the fact that he has this opportunity to get these preloadable cards to put in his small private bank. So there are banks that are
willing to do that. And they go back and on the point. It has to make sense.
You don't have to be an asshole to like get all these absurd fees.
So that's why if you look in our roadmap for our end phase, when we look to partner with maybe a centralized exchange or a bank,
maybe a centralized exchange or a bank, we look at how can we have the fees where they're coded
to buy back on the charts, which inherently adds value to the overall project and give rewards
to our top investors. And I had an error mark for the top thousand because that's basically where
the true investment amount amount is that thousand is
usually the real holders the rest are just traders and dust wallets and what's not and i've come to
that realization because i've done my due diligence and and kind of studied the different ins and out
of different meme coins and what really makes them tick and who's real and what's real and what's not. So a thousand was the comfortable mark when it came to the reward aspect.
But you are right on the pulse.
And I think we're on the pulse.
We have the same ideology and ideas when it comes to how do you add value to the space?
How do you add value to a project?
How do you add value to the investor?
And the only way to do that is value to a project? How do you add value to the investor? And the only
way to do that is to ensure that in real time, an investor doesn't have to do the player versus
player game. They could comfortably invest, allow their investment to grow because you have to
nurture and help them understand that in order to have an investment go, it has to sit for a
wallet, allow it to grow. That's how Warren Buffett made his investments. He wasn't day trading his stocks
with Coke and all this other stuff. No, he invested. He timed the market. He dollar cost
average and he used his cash more appropriately and he built his wealth over time. We like things
too fast. So as it grows and you need to use your money in the real world, whether it's to buy noodles, go on a date, buy a car, put a down payment on a house, whatever, school fees, kids, medical emergency, that type of stuff, you're able to use that card. So there aren't banks because they're vampires. They will always look out for their own
interest and they will tack on, but it has to come from the project. So I like all the projects that
have been really put in the utility into their project with the Visa debit, Mastercard debit cards, but they have to go a little bit further to ensure that they are
leveraging. A lot of them do it a little too early, so they don't have the leverage to make
the best deal possible for their investors. I want to do it on the flip. You do it on the
back end when you're worth a decent amount, because then you come to the table, hey, I have
X amount of users. Yes, you will make
X amount of points as they use their cards because we're helping them to understand that there's
stable value in this particular project. I need you to give me X amount of points to put back on
the chart so they can see the buy back and I need X amount of points to ensure that these are
rewards that come in and then you can keep the
rest. Whether that's a lot or not, it is what it is, but that's the model that we're looking to do
and that's how we're looking to do it. And I got that insight based on conversations over dinner
with private bankers, right? And they're how they look at things, you know? So they're there to
partner and they are interested in web3 but they're
interested in stable stuff so the fly by night and that's what we're trying to build here at
nico again another shameless plug nico on ethereum unlocking ethereum with nico weeks back to you
anyone who's actually able to like pull a customer base who is actively trying to use the services
under you know a certain company or
product like it's going to do fine but that's the biggest problem that everyone has um and um
so but yeah banks will definitely partner if there's consistent volume you know they don't
want to see that you're only going to do 10k this week and then next week you're going to do 3k
because some some people got bored and then the week after no one's going to touch your product you know so they want to see like there was one i forget what it was
called but it was one on solana that was that was doing this and they found like a small jewish bank
that was their phrasing not mine but they found this small bank who was willing to like partner
with them but um even though they kind of worked out a relationship with them, um, you know, the fees were still, um, you know, I wouldn't say they were exuberant, but they were close, you know?
And so, um, anyone doing this, I suggest going directly with a bank, by the way, you don't really want to go through another party.
Who's going to be even more fees.
Um, like, I don't know, but, um, but, uh, anyways, it's just, um, it's, it's's, it's, it's a hard one because, because you,
you know, you, how do I put it? People create products all day, every day. And what really
happens with them? Right. Like most of them fail, let's be real. Right. So this one's even harder
because you have a bank who says, we'll give you a chance. And, um, they know they're not stupid, right? They know
how business does go. They know how products go and they know how hard it is to get customers. So,
um, but, uh, if someone is able to, you know, be, be the one who can bring them, you know,
a few hundred K minimum, maybe a few million in volume every day or every week. Um, they'll be very happy,
you know, but they'll never, never let you go. But, um, even the guy that I saw, he, you know,
they had, they had real push and they were, they were connecting with real DGNs who wanted to
offload money. They were only doing like 50 K a day at the most. And that's good. Don't get me
wrong. That's good for a nobody. No one's ever heard of them, but the banks sitting around like, Hey man, like we want to see them big boy bucks come in. You
know, we want to see a few hundred K a day on bad days, you know? Yeah, no, I know exactly what
you're talking about. And again, that's you, there's certain things that you have to do first.
You can't put the chicken before the egg and you have to be patient and built. And a lot of developers aren't very patient and they're not willing to build.
So as we're building our project, and I think I need to talk for our project, right?
As we build our project, we're looking to say, okay, hey, how do we educate and help
educate and help people to see what our mentality is today, what our perception or our outlook will
people to see what our mentality is today?
be in a few months and in a few years, right? And you have to have trust. You have to build trust.
So as we build this particular project, that building of trust, whether I'm locking my tokens, my personal CTO tokens, whether that be
getting on the centralized exchanges, because showing that we are trying to diversify and
grow and not just rely on DeFi and hype.
You have to build those blocks brick by brick, and then you get where you need to go.
And that's why I'm saying I have to build the foundation first.
I have to build a value in it.
I have to show that, hey, we're not going to take this money, run for the hills or whatever.
I'm sure there are going to be people that are going to invest.
And I'm happy that they're getting out at these early stages in our project because they're not going
to hurt when we get to those aspects and start our arc over. So for us, our next arc is from 130k,
120k to a million. From a million with the centralized exchange listing, we buy our way
onto it. We're not going to beg anyone to do anything for us. We go to five.
I dox myself.
I start having conversations within my network to say, hey, this is what I was able to do within nine months.
This is what I've been able to do within.
Because you have the data.
And then they'd be like, oh, I see the potential in this.
Let me do this push.
I could make this a multimillion-dollar project just from my area that I live in without crypto Twitter.
If I add the value to this. So the people that are in crypto Twitter now they can say, okay, this is a sound investment.
That's how you do and build these projects because I see too many people and too many projects. They go in harm.
They build a hype, but there's nothing.
They didn't think it all the way to the end.
They didn't have any connections.
I don't have connections in crypto to it.
I have connections in the real world.
I'm connected with bankers.
I'm connected with politicians.
I'm connected with PR people within my region and the United States and in Canada.
That's my thing. But
they will only jump in if they see data. That's just how the real world works. And you work in
corporate, you know this to be true. You know how they make these decisions. So I'm...
Yeah, they want a real wall behind them not a fucking you know picket fence or whatever
that's the best way i can explain it yeah that's just that's the best way because like and they
want a tall wall too they want the wall you can't see over the wall and they want it to block
everything they don't want to like look behind you and see a fucking you know yeah a fence that
you could anyone can build you know what i'm saying yeah exactly and the
thing about it and why i love this and i want this space to understand with what we have envisioned
for nico ethereum solidifies it we're the brick they're the model and we want to be the last great blue chip on Ethereum because we see a lot of the
crypto Twitter, the DGENs being priced out because when you're hedging your bets on the
greed of the capital markets, the Black Rocks, the government geopolitics, all this stuff,
they're not going to risk their house of cards collapsing
because some degen like,
and you see what they're doing with Michael Sun,
with the guy from Tron, right?
Whatever his name is.
The Chinese guy, the Asian guy, right?
They saw him doing bullshit.
They cut him out and they sent him on his DGN way.
And that's what's going to happen for the DGN space.
A lot of it is going to be allocated to Solana, to Sui,
if I'm saying that right, to BNB.
And the big boys are going to play on Ethereum.
We need to ensure that we are in position, and we've done that with
the structure of this particular project, that we're in position to take advantage of the 3x,
the 5x, the 10x over time with Ethereum, put that into NECO. So as we go into the real world,
hit these real world investors, hit the banks, hit the politicians, the PR firms, the influencers to build us out, to bring normies into our project,
into our space on Ethereum, and then continue to build it out and pace ourselves to build it out.
Not promising hype, but actually just building on top of the infrastructure,
similar to what Ethereum has done over time.
So I invite everybody here.
I don't know how long we're going to do this space crypto farm.
I invite everybody here, if you're not in, to do your own research.
I don't want to force anybody to say, hey, buy now, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Do your own research on the project.
Look at the consistency that we've done.
We've brought this particular project from the trenches. It is a CTO from five zeros, five to three zeros, one over a nine month period.
What it is that you think that we're going to do as Ethereum continues to rise and adds value when it does, we move.
When Ethereum moves, we move it.
I know it sounds like a ludicrous song and i know that a lot of projects it's kids say that but we've made ourselves so flexible and nimble
that we get a better chance of the multiplier a lot of people are predicting that ethereum
is going to be um between 8 to 12k and as high as 15k at end of the year we're not looking at
that prediction we're looking at where's the theorem going to be at the end of the year, we're not looking at that prediction. We're looking at where is Ethereum going to be at the end of 2026?
How are we going to benefit?
Right?
And if you are hedging your bets based on that, you understand, okay, well, they are
going to look at probably try to do a 10X situation because they see more potential
10X situation because they see more potential in Ethereum than they see in Bitcoin.
to Ethereum than they see in Bitcoin.
They see a way to expand their profit margins by a zero, by a full on 10X, 15X.
So you're hedging your backspace or not.
And once we have that level of value, then we're off to the races to do what it is that
we need to do systematically because there's enough planning to go and pay for centralized exchanges. There's enough planning to build this out. There's enough
network value to go into my network, to go into Locked and Loaded's network, to go into Crypto
Farm's network to say, hey, they really have something special here. Let's go and invest.
Let's partner with Spaghetti because you have,
I'm sure you have something or people within your network that could get behind something
legitimate because the base floor is there. Every base floor is different. People won't get it at
100K. People won't get it at a million. People may get it at five, but if they could see you flip
that five to 10 and at every 5 million interval,
you add a penny, it is what it is.
So we've done the math and we want people to understand that we've done it.
We want you to go and do your own research on the project.
I know when you look at the chart, and I'll be the first one to say, the volume is dismal,
but we do brick by brick.
We hold.
We don't, we don't, um,
we don't believe in hype. I don't believe in having dust wallets. I don't believe in having dust holders. I don't believe in fake bought volume. If you're going to buy in, buy it.
If you're going to hold, hold, if you're going to be a jeet and sell for 25 bucks for whatever reason you'd be a
jeet and sell for 25 bucks the entire buying not something like what you're talking about where you
buy lunch and take some money out no i'm not talking about that we are building something
scarce we're building something of value we're building something of note. And if you look historically in every major cycle, there's always an
Ethereum play that takes the space by storm.
Doge, Shiba Inu, Pepe.
We're the next one.
We're quietly building.
People are coming on.
We had two Ethereum whales. I don't know where they came
from. I don't know what triggered them while we were doing a space. One was about 500K in Ethereum.
Another had about 100K between Ethereum and USDT. They jumped in. I don't know. It was just a little
bit, but the fair, the fact that you have that amount of wealth and you're buying it and you're
holding shows me what I need to like there,
we have a good product. Um, so I invite everybody to do their own research,
figure out what it is that you're going to do. Um,
and understand that you have to take responsibility.
I see that the crowd kind of dwindled off, but it is what it is.
You know what I mean?
I think we're probably at the end of our space.
But do your own research.
Figure out what you need to figure out.
I love the fact that you dollar cost average because people get caught up in just being loyal to one.
you are seeing what's happening, you're seeing the shift,
You are seeing what's happening.
You're seeing the shift.
You're on to something.
And you definitely have the right mentality and attitude
for this in the long term.
I wish everybody could have that open mentality.
And we're going to figure it out.
We're going to educate them and we're going to figure it out.
I want to shout out Shib Bender.
It's always good to see someone from the Shiba Inu community in the space, hanging out.
Tell your friends, man.
Tell the Shiba Inu community there's someone else here.
I know you dogs hate cats sometimes, but get it on.
We're going to make money together.
What are you laughing at, CryptoFam?
I mean, it's true.
Have you not seen cats versus dogs that's a great movie fam definitely tap into it if you
haven't seen it yet um absolutely love what you're putting down nico if i was i was waiting
and uh don't lose heart nico e the live stream's still going on
we got like three people on the live stream yeah i did i did shut off the tiktok because
i just i don't know it was rugging a little bit so i just ended that a little earlier but we had
quite a few people commenting liking um and then we're you know we're also on youtube uh youtube
live we had about 10 or so people over
there as well so you know don't lose faint of heart fam oh yeah you know there's only four or
five people in this space here uh we are you know simulcasting as well so yeah we got strong
41 people on the x live space like i told you the live always does better i don't know why uh it's
probably half of them are bots or probably more than half. But I like to see, I like to feel like they're all real, right, fam?
Anyway, fam, I really appreciate everyone stopping by.
Our next space is Web3 Women Wednesday tomorrow.
Definitely tap in to that space.
Same time, noon EST.
We start the space.
We usually run it for about two hours.
So, yeah, we went a little over today, Nico Eath,
but, you know, we started this space a little bit later, right?
You had rugging issues like the first 15 minutes.
This is a sponsored space, and, you know, you're free to be here
and to speak, you know, your arousing inspirational speeches that you had, you know,
you were putting down earlier, you know, I was getting inspired. So definitely appreciate you
coming up and speaking and just being the best version of yourself, right? So we always want to,
we always want to be the best version of ourselves. So make sure you guys raid the
live space schedule as well. It's up there on the Jumbotron.
It has all of our spaces throughout the week.
It's a weekly schedule, so we get a new one every Sunday.
So, you know, be surprised.
We've got different co-hosts, different guest speakers.
Every single week, every single day is something a little bit different, right?
So this is the first time running this space,
Unlocking Ethereum with Niko E, sponsored by Niko.
And so, you know, I wasn't expecting a huge turnout. But, you know, it is what it is. for the first time running this space unlocking ethereum with nico e sponsored by nico and so you
know i wasn't expecting a huge turnout but uh but you know it is what it is i feel like we did pretty
good regardless and uh this is evergreen content fam i'm gonna get this on the podcast probably the
next day or two you know more people that will be able to listen and tune in uh from that way as
well on spotify so if you guys are in a podcast you can click into that as well but yeah we'll do closing thoughts and then uh i think we'll get out of here fam so uh any
closing thoughts nico before we get out of here okay so the fact that this is evergreen content
let me just say you're never too late in any project whether you dollar cost average into
bitcoin definitely when you hear this,
start to pay attention to what's being built on Ethereum. The entire financial system is about
to change and shift and it's happening right before your eyes. Ethereum is the key. Banks,
Wall Street, the US government, and once thes government um that domino falls and they start
their reserve you're going to see canada you're going to see latin america you're going to see the
uk china japan all of them will follow suit so you're going to be swept up and when you're swept
up in a wave you have to stay calm you have to stay calm. You have to take control.
And you have to figure out where it is that you want to get to.
You just don't want to take and surrender totally.
You know what I mean?
You still have to stay in control.
So that's what I want to say.
Dollar cost average into Ethereum.
Do your own research on us.
We are Niko.
We're in Japanese.
It means cat.
You will see a lot of different variations of nico we're
nico on eth we're the cat with the red hoodie that says buy nico on it um you can find us over on on
on x on twitter whatever you want to say it is nico eth 25 n-e-k-o-e-t-h-T-H 25 you'll see all the work that we've put in
over the course of the last nine months
we are running
a giveaway right now
until we get rate cuts we've been very bullish
on the rate cuts and staying
informed of
what's happening so we're very confident
that the rate cuts are going to happen on September
17th and what that's going to do
for the price of Ethereum and what that's going to do for the price of Niko.
You could buy $5 worth of Niko right now and be entered to win a prize pool of a million Niko tokens between four people, which will enter you in a bigger prize pool for when we hit $10 million in value.
in value. And I say when, not if, because we have a plan, a strategic plan to grow this project well
beyond those price points, following in the footsteps historically of the great ETH memes
and ETH plays like Shiba Inu, Pape Doge. We want to be that. So take your time, do your own research,
www.necoethreborn.com.
Absolutely love that, fam.
Appreciate everyone stopping by again.
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And, yeah,
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