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Vanar Kickstart Roundtable #1
Recorded: Sept. 10, 2025 Duration: 1:17:30Space Recording
Short Summary
The recent discussion highlighted significant advancements in the Web3 space, including the launch of innovative projects like Laika AI's version 7 and the Kickstart program, which aims to support builders through strategic partnerships. Additionally, the integration of AI tools and the expansion of platforms like Onramp.money into global markets signify a trend towards greater accessibility and growth in the crypto ecosystem.
Full Transcription
Thank you. .
Early birds are coming in. That's great. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Hello.
So I see some of the awesome projects have already joined in.
Laika AI, we have, you said we successfully made you a speaker.
So Ash, I'm assuming you're behind there.
Just a quick sound test. Can you hear me?
Hey, yes, GM, everyone.
Happy to be here.
Awesome.
Good to have you, man.
Been looking forward to this.
Awesome.
Awesome. Thank you. All right, we got Mo as a speaker as well.
How's it going, Mo?
Is it Zawi?
Is that how you pronounce it? Hello. Yeah, it's Zawi.
Yeah, that's correct. How are you, everyone?
Awesome. Zawi.
Got it. Got it. Perfect.
Yeah, thanks for joining for sure. We'll just start in like probably a few minutes.
We started the...
Yeah, thank you for the invite.
I think this is a good idea to start the space earlier just to do some might tests.
Otherwise, at zero minute, we're running into problems.
So, good to see people joining in.
So, how was your day?
Let's just chit chat before someone's...
Yeah, it is...
In my region, it's a thunderstorm.
I'm happy that I got, like, good internet connection right now.
I was worried for a bit.
But now I'm super relaxed.
It's not that bad.
How about yourself? I'm good. I'm pretty good. It's not that bad. How about yourself?
I'm good.
I'm pretty good.
Thank you for asking.
No thunderstorm in here, so I guess.
Yeah.
Nice, nice.
Good stuff.
And what about you, Ash?
How's it going with you?
It's going pretty good.
We are about to release our version 7.
So excited for that.
Other than that, I think the whole space is now
looking to light up.
So it's a good time to be here.
Sweet.
Good to hear.
I think we got who's behind the on-ramp one?
Is it Kushagra or is it Hanu?
Who do we have?
Hey, Kushagra this side.
Awesome.
Welcome, man.
Welcome.
We'll just start in a couple of minutes.
And then we can officially get to know you guys for the community. I know you guys
or talk to most of you guys anyways. So, really looking forward here.
Yevgen is still not a speaker. Let me get that sorted. I think we got Giselle there.
Is that you, Giselle?
Happy to be here.
Happy to have you, for sure.
Where are you, Giselle, by the way?
I'm based in Spain at the moment.
Ah, nice.
How's the weather there?
It's pretty nice, pretty nice.
Summer ending, sadly.
Nice, nice.
Hi, Andre.
I hope you can hear us.
We can't hear you yet.
Andre is from human.
Hello.
We can hear you now.
Yeah, okay.
Good.
Hello, everyone.
Oh, that's Yevgen.
Yeah, how's it going?
Am I saying that right, Yevgen?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Awesome.
I think Andre is the only one that's having some speaker problem.
I think we have almost everyone here.
Might as well start soon.
I just want to see if Joe from Immunify.
And we are missing.
That's it, Sparsh, I think. Sparsh, Sparsh, Sparsh, Sparsh.
Hey, Sparsh, how are you doing?
Hey, man, how's it going?
Good. Can you hear me?
Perfectly clear, yes.
Oh, perfect. Yeah, this happens a lot.
I have to join three, four times before I'm on. Yeah.
I felt super lucky.
It's like a lucky draw that you pull out when you connect
on the first go.
You're like, oh my god.
This is the first time, to be honest.
Awesome, awesome.
I think we are missing Kiwi, and we are missing Kiwi and we are missing.
That's it.
And Joe, Kiwi and Joe.
And the rest we have, so I.
I believe we can just start off then.
We're good to go.
So thanks for joining everyone.
We're really excited for this amazing session.
We got 10 of the most amazing projects
and the web three space here with us.
And these people have been in the trenches
for a very, very long time.
From my observation in the last few years,
market ups and downs don't bother them.
They just keep going.
They just keep building amazing stuff. And I'm very, very happy to say that there's, you know, 25 such amazing
projects that have joined the kickstart program, the first batch of it and kickstart just for
people that don't know. It's a program that we are running.
It was based on suggestions from different partners,
different developers, different builders in the ecosystem.
And its basic idea is to essentially kickstart builders
and helping them gain some perks while doing it from big brands.
And usually, you know, builders, when they're starting out,
they're unable to make the right connections,
especially if you're a smaller startup or a builder.
You don't even have time.
You're just working on day-to-day tasks or whatever,
partnerships, getting advisors, getting these kind of things,
or getting some sort of
perks is kind of out of your league at that point. Some people are just shy, some people are just not connected, others just don't have time. So this program, some just think that it's not possible.
So this program's main purpose is to actually connect these amazing partners that we got at Vaynar
who are willing to help builders all the time,
frankly speaking.
And this program just makes it very visible for them.
And builders can actually go
and the Kickstart website will be officially launched
soon as well for builders to go in there
and check out
who these amazing partners are that are going to be giving them amazing purse to hop on and
and utilize their amazing technologies whichever ones you know they want to use so i'm just going to quickly introduce the guests that are on the call.
And quick short intro.
We have ThirdWeb, Giselle from ThirdWeb here.
We have Ash from Laika AI.
We have Yevgen from Kaizen Finance.
We have Joe from Unify.
We have Sparsh, the CEO of Plena Finance.
We got Mo, Xavi, Now Nodes.
And my friend Sasha from Mobula.
We got Kiwi from Magic Square.
We got Andre from Humanode. And last but not least, for all your money needs,
we got onramp.money.
We got Kushagra and Hana from onramp.money.
So what I'm gonna do is, what they do,
I think most of the people that are listening
probably already know these are very big names.
And the ones that don't know any of these projects,
I think you must know these projects, right?
Because these are like the big, big names in the space.
And if you don't know, you need to understand
like why they're big, why they're successful
and how they can help you grow faster.
Like I was talking to a startup last week
where they had an idea for a product
and they were just saying, oh, I can,
this is a very quick idea.
I can just use AI tools and build this out
in like three to five days and then launch it.
And usually, yes, it is much faster to build nowadays, but a product requires
a lot more support to make it go faster.
Like if you're doing it on your own from scratch, it could take you anywhere from like three
to seven years to actually launch.
And I've witnessed this, right?
So having the support from these big who are really focused in their niches really helps you build your products faster.
And especially more secure because in the Web3 space, I think when you're starting out, you're not thinking about security.
Every one of these projects, the 10 that we have are highly secure.
They've gone through their orders.
They've been tried and tested by multiple user bases,
and they know what's going on.
So you don't want to go through that cycle again,
cost-wise, time-wise, and even the advisory part.
Most of these people, I've worked with them personally
as well, and I've gotten advice that I cannot find
on YouTube or channels.
I connect with them one-to-one.
They actually tell me what can be done correctly, what's a waste of time, what is hype, what is real.
All that stuff can be possible because they've done it.
They've already done it.
What I'm going to do is just go through now uh some questions i'm going
to ask like and i'll just randomly start uh with like uh ai uh and i'm going to ask you ash why
don't you introduce yourself and and quickly uh after your your introduction your project
introduction quickly tell me like what are some of the problems you're solving in the web 3 and why does it
matter for these builders sure thanks thanks for picking me my name is Ash
I've spent about 10 years in the financial industry working with
companies like Microsoft Bank of America Aviva Life so most of my career has been
in in these companies where tech and finance was at the forefront uh
back in 2022 is when me and my business partner we thought of starting a clarity building vision
uh for web3 space and that's where like ai kind of featured in at leica you, we are building the most comprehensive AI layer for Web3.
And we're combining enterprise rack structures, developer APIs, and analytical tools.
So with our multi-chain super app, which is now available in Chrome extension and a web app format as well.
And with our verified chat GPpt plugins uh we're delivering
block you know advanced intelligence on blockchain and also creating automated market analysis for
builders and traders alike so that's a short introduction about me and i got now coming to
the question it's an interesting one um well uh when i look at it market in especially in web3 the real problem isn't just scalability
or you know regulation it's about clarity um you know builders especially in web3 today operating
a space that is very rich with data yet absolutely no insights every transaction every smart contract you know everything that
community does on chain leaves a trail but that information is fragmented across chains across
platforms and there's so many noise field channels all over so even the most ambitious teams today
spend more time just chasing these signals from all of different blockchains rather than building.
So at Laika AI, what we believe is
where intelligence is the most important thing,
the on-chain intelligence.
Our mission is to transform this chaos more into coherence.
We want to fuse AI both with on-chain data and off-chain data.
And we want to give builders an ability not just to see what's
happening, but also likely to see what's going to happen next,
especially in Web3 space.
And this matters immensely for Web3 because this space
will not be owned by people who just deploy smart contracts or build chains or build ecosystems.
This will be for everyone.
If you can harness communities and act with that foresight, I think that's going to be a game changer for most of the builders.
And that's where we come in with you guys to see what we can help a fellow builder with.
Yeah, that's a very interesting point.
And I like that you mentioned it, that it's not for just developers because the future
of development is basically everyone.
Like, I mean, moving towards the conversational development where somebody could be just driving
a car and start developing a software through conversation right
uh so yeah definitely for everyone especially uh with ai now building 31 of microsoft code about
38 of google's code i think you will have many more coders who can just talk their way into ideas
right as you just said, conversational building.
So it's for everyone.
100%, and then that caters like lots of regions as well.
So on the same point,
and thanks so much for your input there.
On the same point, I'm gonna invite Sparsh,
CEO of Plana Finance.
Why don't you just give a quick introduction
and also tackle the same question, like why
does it matter?
What does your product matter for builders?
Sure.
So guys, I'm the CEO of Plana Finance.
So currently, recently we've launched a new product, which is NoAI.
And that is basically AI powered no code tool that lets anyone build blockchain applications with just a prompt.
So I think you guys might be familiar with Lovable or Replit or V0 right?
It's kind of similar to that in terms of UX but instead of just building front end applications you're able to build the front end applications and also the smart contracts along with the test cases and audit reports.
So basically we want to make sure that there are no security vulnerabilities in the smart contracts that we, or let's say our LLM writes, right, or develops.
And users can just deploy that on chain and use that in different apps.
And also the best part is that you don't have to install anything or download anything. Everything happens on the browser and you have complete custody of all the smart contracts
or let's say the apps that you deploy.
And answering the question, I would say definitely it's, I think AI is really important right now,
especially in the Web3 space, right?
Because if you look at the number of developers in the Web3 space, right?
It's really low. I think we only have 40k developers in the Web3 space, right? Because if you look at the number of developers in the Web3 space, right, it's really low.
I think we only have 48 developers in the Web3 space.
And that's after like chain spending millions of dollars for almost, I think, eight to 10 years now to onboard them.
But we're not able to onboard them
because the issue is that they have to learn
a completely new language
in order to build on top of blockchains, right?
And with AI, we're able to make that possible,
that even with no AI, right, what we've done is we've basically
trained different LLM or fine-tuned LLM to basically build blockchain applications.
And what it will help us do is, I would say it would help us
get more dApps on chain and eventually more users on
chain as well.
Yeah, 100%, definitely.
I think getting that life cycle of development, even, you know, you can do it through AI,
you can build through AI, that's very common knowledge now.
But I think just knowing which partners can actually make these hard
development parts done faster for you would be,
and you can just plug and play features like yours
and just make it faster.
Definitely amazing project.
Now-
Users can basically, sorry.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Yeah. So yeah, I was saying that what we've done is we've integrated multiple solutions as well.
Right.
So let's say the users don't have to actually like set up anything else by themselves.
Right.
Like all the other features, like different protocols are already integrated into NOAA
so that you could actually just integrate it right.
Like direct from the web app.
You just need to click on what you want to integrate and that's integrated into your application.
Amazing. Super simple. Right on.
Cool. Now let's move on to Magix.
Cool. We got Kiwi.
So Kiwi, you guys like offer a whole bunch of features
especially for user acquisition we've seen.
So why don't you just give a little intro
and then also tell our builders,
like why do you guys matter so much for them?
Oh yeah, sure.
Hi, can you hear me loud and clear?
Oh yes.
Thank you for inviting us actually.
It's quite an honor to be among great builders
within the ecosystem.
And for those who have been in the space for a while and for those who are very fresh.
So what is Magic Square?
Of course, it's full of magic opportunities,
but I actually like to call it as a blockchain explorer like Netflix style, right?
Coming back home, you open a Netflix and you're trying to find a good show,
no matter what gender or kind of things you like to watch prefer.
Magic Square is exactly the same, but it's built for battery application.
You're looking for DeFi, you've got it covered.
You're looking for SocialFi, CFi, GameFi, any kind of fi that comes to your mind
is actually on the Magic Store.
And the beautiful part of it is that the community is the one
who decides what should be part of the Magic ecosystem, right?
Like there is a specific validation period,
and then the community takes a look,
whether this app is legit or not,
whether you should be trusted,
whether you should be part of the ecosystem.
And as for the builders,
the most important and beautiful part that it's fully free
for you to become
part of the magic store.
So if you're looking forward to have more feedback on the app or the app or project
you're building, boom, very welcome to submit your application.
It's fully free.
It's super user friendly.
You're very able to do so.
It doesn't matter what chain you're coming from.
It doesn't matter what chain you're coming from, it doesn't matter what you are building, you're very welcome to join and actually show off what a beautiful creation you
have. Through validation process also the community is quite active, you know, visiting your project
links, leaving a review, giving you a star just like a Michelin star restaurant. And last but not
the least, of course course we do have different kind
of tools and opportunities for the builders uh one of them in my favorite one is the hot offer
so eventually it's a type of the activities where you can have the user acquisition through different
kind of activities both from social media perspective and both from the proof of work
when a user needs to
do something and get a reward for it and there are different kinds so very welcome to join and explore
and actually test it out because i do know that quest and activations sounds very fun but when
it comes to the question of the quality of users this is kind of a big a tricky question that we
actually solve another thing that we have is a magic launch pad and magic farm so it's uh more for uh the projects that we already have the
token itself and looking for the talking support and utilities so we do also help with that and
last but not the least we have a lot of community events so if you're looking forward to meet the
community in person speak to them ask hey guy what do you think about what i'm building and
then receive the best feedback in a real time very welcome to join and very welcome to to do so and
and yes we are we have been probably building and mass adopting both builders and both users through
all-time journey more than three years and i know sometimes it might be challenging for
once who's building because once you build a product and you know your product is good
what are your next steps right where are you going um of course you can create a beautiful social
media content plan and much more but making a first step with the magic square would be the
perfect way to start this yeah i think like most of the people,
like once they have the product in hand,
they struggle with the acquiring users, right?
And I think your platform just makes it easier.
They can kind of piggyback off your platform
as well as your community
and then just get that kickstart going.
Thanks so much.
I think everyone can hear me still. I don't see my... Yes. Okay,
I got a heart, so yes. All right, and then with that, we're going to move to a project that when
I first heard of, it was quite a bit different than the usual projects that I hear. So I think
we got Andre from Humanode. So Andre, why don't you tell us a little bit about your crazy project
and tell us what the business can benefit from.
Sure. Hi, everyone. So my name is Andre and I'm a core member here at Humanode and I'm also doing BD.
And thank you for having me here today. So I'll briefly introduce you what HumanNode is and why our new DAP Biomapper.
I think it's changing how we think about the identity and the CB resistance in Web3 at the
whole. So HumanNode is a crypto biometric network where one human equals one node, and of course, you can think about it as one vote also, right?
With us, instead of staking tokens for consensus or as a proof of work, we use private biometric verification to ensure that every validator is a unique and living person.
For you to understand it better, it's like we ask validators to go through biometric checks
so they can stay unique and prove that they are real humans.
With this, this allows us to remove fake accounts or double accounts or CBs in general at the basic root.
And in all this journey to showcase our effectiveness of our technology, we've tried to develop a suite of solutions which are designed to prevent
civil attacks. This includes integration with popular platforms such as Discord
and Telegram. We also have integration for OAuth 2, like for direct integration
in website and apps. And our star here, it's the Biomapper, right?
This is one of a kind on-chain solution
that we can connect user wallets address
with their facial biometrics, right?
So every time a user wants to connect his wallet
to a dApp on X ecosystem,
we are deployed on 22 chains right now.
So every time you connect this wallet
that is linked with your face,
developers in that ecosystem can see
if this wallet belongs to a real human, right?
I like to say that every time we deploy
our tech on chains that we support,
we enable for them, like, imagine the same thing like a WorldCoin,
but with us it's, like, more easy
because you don't have to go in front of the org to verify as a human, right?
With us, you can verify with your phone, with your mobile,
with your Web3Cam, Webcam, yeah.
Anything that has more than three megapixels.
Amazing. And I think it's very important
for sensitive projects that do need to verify
whether it is one person or multiple.
I know some projects like games or whatever,
sometimes they don't care,
like if there's multiple accounts of the same user,
they're just getting more user base showing on their stats.
But for more sensitive projects,
let's say healthcare or legal or similar projects,
they do require this.
And in Web3, it's not that easy to kind of differentiate
with the biometric verification and everything.
I think it becomes very, very genuine,
very, very authentic for someone to actually prove that yes, I have two users.
I also like to say that this is not a QIC, right? We don't know nothing about the user.
We can just prove that it's a real human behind a said account.
As I said, we have a verification for Discord also in Telegram and also on-chain.
Yeah, so to answer your question, so the biggest problem that we solve here are civil attacks.
Whenever one person pretends to have thousands of accounts, right?
And we all know that this problem is like everywhere
in in governance votes air drops in quests token sales etc or even simple on community engagement
right i mean you go you create a galaxy campaign or whatever at this community engagement platforms
and you don't really know if your rewards are going to real human or are going
to one person with 20 accounts right definitely yeah in general humanhood ensures that every count
comes from a unique 11 human being without sacrifice in the privacy right yeah which is
like huge for like some web enthusiasts, right?
Because they
thrive on this that, you know,
we want to stay anonymous,
you know, but at the same time, we're able to identify
that, you know, this is just that
one person. It's not one
person has like 50 anonymous
accounts or something.
So awesome. Now we're
going to go to, and thank you so much for this. We're gonna go to
Immunify and we have Joe. Is Joe with us? Yeah. Hey Joe. Yes. Yes. Why don't you tell us a little
about the project to the listeners and also what do you got in store for builders?
Of course.
Yeah. Thank you for having me here.
It's a pleasure to be speaking to the Vayner chain ecosystem and the community.
My name is Joe.
I'm from Immunify and Immunify is a leading end-to-end security platform for the on-chain economy.
We were known as a bug bounty program, but now we offer a full suite of security products from pipeline security, audit, auto competition, monitoring, brand protection, and of course, we're still doing bug bounty programs.
And one of the problems that we are trying to solve in Web3 is that the problem that we're trying to solve is the fragmentation of Web3 security.
Previously, any project would have to go vendor to vendor to access different security tools and services, different login, multiple invoices, and fragmented notifications.
So earlier this year, Unify launched Magnus, a unified security platform.
a Unify security platform.
It is a security platform for any project to access the best of the best Web3 vendors
on one platform, one login, one invoice, and one pane of glass.
We know as Immunify, we can't be the best at every security service that we can provide,
so we actually have partner integrated onto Magnus.
So along with Immunify's native security services and tools,
we're working with runtime verification for formal verification audit.
We are also working with auditors such as Sigma Prime, OtterSec,
and 3 Sigma for our audit marketplace, Fuzzland and Failsafe for monitoring.
We're working with DDoP for firewall uh chain patrol for brand protection
and uh we have many more announcements to come with the magnus platform um one of the things that
we also want to do as one of the biggest opportunities for collaboration for the
other kickstart partners is that um immunify we have the largest and best security researcher community.
We also have over 60,000 in our community,
and we highlight the best security researchers
with our non-exclusive All-Stars program.
And we also have the most responsible disclosure
in Web3, 15 times more than our next competitor.
And so with our community and our data, we can help find the best auditors
and secure researchers for audit,
audit competition at bug bounty programs
based on your code, product type, and other information.
Immunify's native tools and our Magnus partners
can also provide further security implementation
to harden your code to help minimize hacks.
Amazing. Awesome.
And I'm glad you touched the collaboration opportunities with some of the other Kik partners here.
And I would like to now invite Koshagra from onramp.money.
like to now invite Koshagra from onramp.money.
And if you could also tell us a little bit about what you see,
some big opportunities for collaborations
with the other Kickstart program partners that we have,
even the ones that are not on this call,
but there's a total of 25 ones.
Koshagra, you can hear us, right?
Yeah, perfect. thanks for the introduction
so hi everyone i'm kushar from onam team i currently work on the product and growth side
of things for onam money so we'll start off with a small introduction of onam money what we do
right so we are building a global fiat to
crypto infrastructure that powers on-ramps and off-ramps globally right we do support other
web3 functionalities like crypto swaps and purchasing gift cards via crypto and all right
our mission is simple to make web3 accessible for anyone everywhere right now coming to the question that if he raised like how onramp
is going to support different builders or uh people who are on the kickstart program with
uh you guys right so again think of it as a way that no matter how innovative a d app a wallet
or ecosystem is if users can't easily move value in and out from their local
currency into crypto and back the adoption actually fails right so at onramp money we are actually
solving this one of the most fundamental uh problems that web3 has and it is called the
axis right so in order to sort of interact with your general web to finance we work on the
intersection of both of them right for builders
this really matters today because the web3 user journey often breaks at the very first step that
is onboarding right let's say if you are someone from india or nigeria or let's say from us and you
want to and they want to use your app but simply can't because to buy stable coins or cash or let's
say cash out their earnings right in
local currency you lose them if you are not using that functionality right so we at on-arm money
what we have done is we have built a global path to crypto infrastructure that it makes it frictionless
to you know sort of do on-arm sort of firms across 60 plus countries right and that means you don't
need to think of compliance banking integration
or payment rails at all right you can just focus on building your product while we make sure your
users can transact instantly and locally like in short we are building web2 finance with the three
ecosystem so we just can scale globally without being blocked by payments yeah it's just like you
know when paypal came out right it was just easy to just plug in, add the plug-in through whatever you're building.
It doesn't matter.
You don't have to worry about payments and everything.
So, yeah, that's definitely how I saw your solution.
And I think everybody, not just builders, but other partners and anyone can really utilize
partners and anyone can really utilize this without taking that burden on themselves.
this without taking that burden on themselves.
Another example of how just using an expert can just reduce your own burden, your time,
your money, everything. So thanks so much for your insights on this. I'm going to actually now
move on to the next question, which is, in your opinion, what are the biggest challenges
that Web3 builders face and how do you solve it?
So I'm gonna, for this question,
I'm gonna first invite Sasha,
who's a very outgoing person I run into at most events.
And so go ahead, Sasha from Mobula.
Why don't you tell us a little bit about your project
and what do you think are the challenges
that builders face nowadays that you can solve?
Oh, is Sasha online?
Oh no, Sasha's not here.
All right, let's see. No, I can't see him. Oh, no, Sasha's not here. All right.
Let's see.
No, I can't see him.
All right, then we're going to pass the same question to Kaizen Finance.
Sorry, Yevgen, why don't you take this away, introduce yourself, your company, and then
shed some light on the challenges that web3 builders are facing
sure uh my name is Yogan uh from Kaizen Finance we are on the market uh pretty long time uh launched a hundred projects and uh biggest challenge for the developers is uh keep focus always because uh
all founders are talented engineers talented developers and then they think they can do
everything okay and then they starting let's say gamify projects but instead of
concentrating on on their project itself uh gaming communities they start okay probably we are sold
can create own token if we can create our own token we we will build our own security for our token.
And then we will create our own staking.
We will create our own wasting and probably our portal for investors.
And basically then projects spend money off investors, lost time and
opportunity on the market, building everything by themselves because it's smart because
they're talented because they can instead of concentrated on most important part of project
itself right oh such kickstart opportunities any type of partnership is so critical. And instead of thinking that you're surrounded by competitors,
think like you're surrounded by partners who can help you, right?
So we are helping with stocking creation, token launch, cybersecurity.
Right here, we see partners who can help with on-ramp of ramp, with auditing, right?
Security, integration, KYC, everything.
So technically speaking, you as a founder and developers, you have to always concentrate on your core of your project, on your community and everything else you can take from the
partner cycle system so this biggest challenge focus
yeah thanks i think i think that is a very valid thing as well because everyone
almost everyone that is doing a web 3 project runs into this situation.
So, and thanks for your input, really insightful.
I'm gonna go to the next question now,
which is to Kiwi from Magic Square again.
Kiwi, what do you think, like, how can,
like, how can projects make launching
or scaling faster, cheaper or safer?
Would love to know your thoughts on this.
Thank you. I think it's a very beautiful question.
But to me, the most important is actually the transparency.
At Magic Square for us, in terms of the community, in terms of the building,
it was
always important to be transparent with your community, which meant to say, if you have
any questions, you're always transparent and you'll answer them monthly.
Whenever it happens, you're here for your community and your community should be one
of the top priorities when you're building something.
Always listen to your feedback, always communicate with them. And of course, create something that
is actually needed for people to use because if no one is using
your product, then why are you building? Always ask yourself,
what kind of questions do you solve with your product? Another
one is, of course, stay on trend. I think just on this, just I'm
going to quickly interrupt. But yeah, like that, that's a very important part, right?
Because most of the times when this question is asked, let's say, to a new startup or something,
their thoughts go towards technology or some service provider or something like that, not towards community.
But this is a very valid point that you know if you're getting the
feedback from the community and building what is needed only you're automatically going to be
uh faster by not developing unnecessary and cheaper and for safer as well
and go ahead continue yeah yeah i mean it's very helpful because, you know, we do have a communication, but I believe in the web free and blockchain communication is built very different.
And we do have kind of different values and supporting different kind of values like centralization, being an open network where everyone can share their thoughts and their feedback as well.
and the feedback as well. Speaking of the open network and in terms of the internet, right,
and technologies, there's also a lot of important to understand what is the current matter,
right? You need to be on trend, you always need to upgrade yourself, you always need
to think of the new opportunities and futures so that the users actually come to you in
the first matter. And last but not least, of course, the security itself is very important, right?
Like audit reports and much more.
Me, myself, like, right?
Imagine if I'm a newbie and I just open my Metamask bullet or any other kind of bullet, right?
I want to make sure that my connection is secure and actually I can rely on the service provider or the stuff that i'm using and last but not the least then boarding i think there have been a lot of mentions
about in terms of how you can onboard users and these talks have been a while in a space right
like much of the time when i participate and listen or speak in the spaces everyone is talking
about importing and yet we are still early in the blockchain because, you know,
when your grandma comes to you and asking you, what is a Bitcoin?
Right? Like, how can I get the Bitcoin?
I'm 70 years old, but I want to learn more.
So which way are you going to explain?
Very simple. And how do you are going to onboard your grandma to Bitcoin?
It's just one of the very fun examples, but it's actually showing a lot of pain in terms of the blockchain adoption and how it can actually
come mainstream. Of course, right now, the population overall, Gen Zs and the rest of
the worldwide communities, they're much more familiar with Slack3, thanks to the news,
thanks to the social media. But we're still very early, so we need to find the solutions
where we
easily can onboard users like for the reference magic square itself offer a different kind of
login options you can use your twitter discord telegram account if you prefer um wallets then
you can do it with solano wallet evm wallet with stone wallet if you want you can do it with email
right so i have tons of opportunities and if i completely want to look for my passport from evm wallet then i can just use my email and so uh
onboarding uh security and transparency i think these are the three key points to make it cool
um and start your journey of onboarding users and boost the visibility and last but not the least of course make sure that you creating
a very interesting and very unique value which is one of the key things that you bring into the
space and for everyone around too thanks thanks kiwi and thanks for mentioning that really appreciate it. Yeah, I think Kickstarter program is exactly for that,
is to connect builders,
to take advantage of the great partner services
that are out there.
And then of course the amazing offers
that they have exclusively provided for this program.
Thanks for your input Kiwi again. I'm gonna move on to Zavi now.
So Zavi, we're gonna continue on the same question with you,
but first introduce yourself, your project,
and then also touch base on the thing that, you know,
normally when builders, as Kiwi mentioned,
security is one of the primary objectives there.
But when builders think of security they
think like you know that's gonna like slow down the project it's gonna be like super expensive
or whatnot so how do i actually make that uh you know feasible uh for for builders
go ahead zavi yeah so hello again hello everyone and thank you for the chance and for giving us the mic.
My name is Mohamed, you can call me Mo if you want.
I'm the lead BD and account manager at NowNodes.
So what's NowNodes?
I guess it's in the name.
We are one of the leading and one of the best node provider, RPC node provider.
Of course, we have some side project, but our main project is node provider.
Of course, we have some side project, but our main project is not provided.
We provide access to more than 115 plus blockchain.
And of course, we work with B2C and B2B.
So we have more than 500 B2B customers, like big, big ones.
I will name them later on.
And we work with B2C2. That's about now not.
So, and to answer your question, I guess in here, our partner, how was her name?
Kiwi from Magic Square.
Kiwi, yeah. I had some very, very good point, but I would like to add someone.
Like when you are talking about launching
or scaling a project it's a startup it's a new project and come on guys nobody starts a new
project with a ton of money so as i noticed many of our partners highlight price as one of the key
advantage when working with us and we as always strive to make our pricing as convenient, as partner-friendly as possible.
Even if sometimes it might not be the most convenient option for us, but in here we are looking more into building like a long-lasting trust with the clients. And I guess this is one of the reasons why big clients like Exodus, like Trustwallet,
like CX.io, or Bitpanda, et cetera, works with us.
And apart from these big sharks, we have more than 1,500 B2C clients.
They are small builders.
They are like startups.
They are launching their project.
This money-wise and cheaper-wise.
And yeah, as you said, everybody, when they start talking about security and about safety, they think that, oh my God, I gotta pay more than, I don't know, 1,000, 2,000 euros or dollars for such a service, such a safe service.
But no, actually, we offer a lot of, let's say, even free endpoints to help the community.
And we offer, let's say, one of the cheapest plans ever.
If you had the time to jump on our side and check, we offer plans starting from 20 euros.
And there are more than enough for small startups.
That's amazing.
And builders that are listening, honestly, that's the cheapest and securist way is just
piggy banking off of Now Nodes connections, essentially, that they have, all the work
that they have done.
You're just piggy banking off of it at a very cheap rate.
Right?
So that's amazing.
Yeah.
And come on. Like when you look at our uptime, 99.97, and we have 100% uptime for the main blockchain.
And our response time that is very, very small.
I cannot give you the exact number right now, but I guess it's 0.0 something.
It's the perfect mix for the startups and the builders and for the big charts too.
Okay. It's the perfect mix for the startups and the builders and for the big charts too. Um, talking, okay.
We covered the fast or the safe, the cheap.
Let's jump to the fast part.
Um, one of the examples here, I guess is listing a new network on our site.
So, um, for example, look, so they approached us, uh. And in addition to a fair price, like let's say we give out twice as cheaper as any other
provider, we also empathize the speed and efficiency of our technical team.
Like for example, when providing an ETA for the network integration, we always account
for possible technical challenges. And when we're given the ETA, we deliver, we give it,
how to say it, we will give a couple of days more,
but we deliver much, much faster than expected.
And we have been getting this review more and more often each day
that we are delivering very fast.
Like their own product isn't catching up with our delivery time.
So that's nice to hear from our clients of ours.
Nice.
And that's the advantage of having an expert doing a niche for you, right?
And you don't have to delve in yourself.
Thanks so much, Mo, for your insights.
Really appreciate it.
And I'm going to take the same question to Humanoad as well.
So Andre, why don't you shed some light on this one as well?
Yeah, sure.
So I mean, answering the question
about how the project
make launching or scaling faster others.
So if we if we refer out the Biomapper tool, I think that projects can add
cerebral resistance in minutes, okay?
Because it's faster.
I mean, you don't need to build
your own verification system.
We provide, let's say,
a plug-and-play solution across all EVM chains.
It's very easy to use, and all you have to do is calling our APIs with two lines of code, and that's it.
It's cheaper because even though you don't want to use the on-chain verification, we offer the Discord verification, which is totally free.
For the Biomapper verification, the user pays like a a small fee we we want wanted to keep always below uh half a dollar and as others as I said
it's cheaper like um why because I think that wasting marketing budgets or rewards on bots and fake accounts, right?
You can just spend directly on real humans.
So that means like higher ROI and less fraud, let's say.
And of course, it's safer because we use advanced liveness detection and private biometrics,
which we stop defects, injected videos or duplicate accounts right and as i said earlier the main one will be like we don't always use a
kyc and i don't know if you guys know but every time you use a kyc provider and they charge you
a QIC provider and they charge you a lot more. I mean per user is like more than one dollar or two
right and with us we don't use the QIC, we don't store personal data and user privacy and compliance
risk are minimized with us. So yeah that I think that will be nice. Then definitely I think much faster
to just plug and play with your solution.
Thanks so much for that answer, Andre.
I'm gonna move on to actually a question
that I really wanted to ask Yevgen from Kaizen Finance,
is essentially, you provide a lot of these
kind of out of the box solutions for builders.
Like what kind of projects or builders benefit most from your solution based on like what's your experience so far?
Yeah, I have to rephrase your question because I would say not who, but when.
question because I would say not who, but when, right? So basically we're closing everything
what the project needs with token launch, right? So literally every project in the Web3
using tokens for funding, using tokens for interaction with the community and building on token economy.
So we're covering this part with tokens, with vesting, staking,
integration and market making services.
So our goal is why project need to launch fast to keep momentum.
You see the cycles on the market all the time.
And imagine that you are a developer of Metaverse and you missed last cycle.
No one need Metaverse anymore, right?
So whatever you're doing right now, probably if you miss this opportunity
to launch right now, it probably
nobody needed any more.
It's not like enough right now.
Nobody wants the anymore.
You know, it's like too many.
Yeah, everyone's shifting to something else.
And you will feel like, okay, RWA, it's in some moment, everyone will say, okay, enough RWA,
right, and switch to another one, you have to launch as soon as you're ready, as soon
as your community wants to see your product on the market, you should be on the market,
and you should be listed as soon as possible.
So we're covering this part, giving fast track projects to listings.
So this is what the project should concentrate, right?
Concentrate on their community, first of all,
on their product, second,
and everything else should come from the partner ecosystem.
Nice.
No, definitely right uh there and uh yeah i love that you rephrase the
question to when in your case that is the right question for sure um now moving on to like some
um payment ecosystem so i'm gonna ask sparsh from playnow finance like in the next 12 months or so
like in the next 12 months or so,
which is like, you know, a decade in Web3,
where do you see, like, how do you see AI data,
our payments kind of reshaping the ecosystem?
Because you're in the, you're deep into this.
I mean, like from someone who's starting today,
I think you have gained a lot of knowledge in the past.
You've probably seen the market shift here and there.
What do you see in the next 12 months?
I would say that the most of the innovation is have gained a lot of knowledge in the past. You've probably seen the market shift here and there. What do you see in the next 12 months?
I would say that most of the innovations will be using AI.
And I'll tell you why, like, so I've been, like I used to be a developer, right?
And I've been, like, I got into this industry
because I was a developer.
I was pretty intrigued by how blockchains work and I started coding, right?
And now AI is able to basically do all of that for the users, right?
Or if anyone wants to build an application, they could use it.
And that brings, I would say, that would bring a lot more innovation.
And an example of that could be Plenar Finance itself, right?
For example, let's say we started Plenar Finance because we saw this biggest,
like a really huge problem in the space, which was user experience.
Let's say even before I was using these applications,
there were millions of users who were using decentralized applications
and they were facing these issues that, let's say,
if you want to transfer any token on Ethereum,
you need to hold ETH for paying the transaction fees. And let's say if you want to interact with the on Ethereum, you need to hold ETH for paying the transaction fees.
And let's say if you want to interact with the DAP,
you have to do multiple transactions, right?
The user experience act.
The only reason we were able to develop something like that,
even I would say a year before Vitalik,
was because I had some development experience, right?
And a lot of these users in the Web3 space,
they face a lot of these problems.
Whenever they're using, let's say, any dApps on any chain,
they're aware of all of these problems.
And the only reason they're not able to build any solution is because,
first one, it's really difficult to find a good blockchain developer online
on, let's say, on platforms like Upwork.
And on top of it, they charge you a shit ton of money.
You end up paying thousands of dollars.
But I think with AI, what we'll see is
we'll see a lot of these users with great ideas,
launch great products and yeah,
we'll see more and more dApps coming in
and more and more amazing solutions
coming into the Web3 space, which will onboard,
I would say a lot more users.
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But the way I'm looking at it is for the next 12 months, we see these three forces exploding AI, data and payments.
And they will be converging to fundamentally change or how we look at webt today I mean AI is going to become
the default co-pilot for all builders and communities and we have some amazing builders
today also in this panel who are trying to help other builders build faster scale better and stuff
like that so you know from auditing contracts to real-time predicting market shift from AI
reducing friction to helping build faster you know uh builders won't just query blockchains
anymore they'll have AI agents can they can act on their behalf or act on their behalf of their
protocols I mean is AI is going to be the biggest force. However, I think data is where we expertise as well.
I think we'll move from being fragmented
in to more actionable, if I can say that.
And the winners in the Web3 will be turning this raw on-chain
activity into predictive signals, intelligence
for the community, or rather intelligence
about the community that they have.
And Laika AI is pushing this shift.
We partnered with Wanner in the Kickstarter program.
And we also got a partnership and a grant from Perplexity AI,
which is a web tool competitor for google search so to
say so uh so it clearly sees that data is becoming important and and the kind of recognition that
leica ai is getting i think data is going to the second most important force regarding payment i
think uh the more we say the less it is I think we especially after the stable coin act passing
in the US I think uh settlement rails will shift to stable coins and uh whoever will
those faster rails will be definitely be the winner and help create real world commerce
on the top of crypto uh I think uh this will create sort of a creative economies that we
see in web 2 right now uh less in web 3 but there are and all this micro transaction value transfer
uh you know it is really going to be integrated and it'll not just be some hype of payment system so i think uh web 3 edge won't be in hype in the next 12 months i think uh but how
we really build intelligent solutions uh those are smarter uh faster and more inclusive of people who
are not native to web 3 as well yeah you're right. I think that the hype phase probably has, hopefully,
has ended.
I think a lot of us that are actually building
were kind of waiting for the hype to kind of die down
and real-world impacts to start happening.
And thanks for sharing, definitely.
And I'll move to Mo now on the same kind of continuation of the topic.
When it comes to real-world impact, can you share a success story from your project that has a real-world impact?
Success story. That's my favorite subject.
It shows that we're not only looking for selling the product,
but we are continuing to provide to our partners and to community.
So one, I guess I can not for the real,
it has a real impact on our partner.
So one of our partners is the EVMG network Luxor.
They were looking for an infrastructure provider
to help attract more developers and larger projects
to their ecosystem.
And that's how our collaboration started and began.
So we integrated their network.
And long story short, now the numbers speak more themselves.
In the very first month, I i guess about two years ago two years ago we handled
around 1 000 requests per month we did some magic some of course co-marketing and now we are
processing nearly 10 million requests per month of course this is still not the same scale as top
networks like ethereum or solana but we're working closely
with look so and i guess someday we'll reach this this stage yeah we're looking forward to that day
man definitely that's a huge number though like i mean uh there's a lot of things to process and
considering it's a real world thing it's not just some like you know party transactions that you
we used to see in games or a lot of
projects that didn't even launch actually they just created the hype and they died uh but yeah
it's good to hear that thank you so much for sharing that uh now we're gonna move on to uh
one of my favorites in terms of you know helping out the the builders and communities. And we have Giselle with us from ThirdWeb.
I think I personally have actually connected
a lot of projects with them from all the way from,
you know, internal level to startup builders,
experimentation to, you know, corporate level usage.
So it's a great framework for anybody building on Web3.
So without me explaining too much,
I'm just gonna invite Giselle
to go ahead and introduce yourself a bit about ThirdWeb.
I think most of the builders that are listening
probably already know you guys.
And then also, I think you should do this first
and then I'll go towards the questions.
Yeah, great.
Thank you so much.
So yeah, I introduced myself.
My name is Giselle or G, which is easier.
I work at ThirdWeb in the solutions success team.
So everything to do with integrating and helping builders integrate with our tools.
Many of you might know about ThirdWeb, but ThirdWeb is a full stack, open source, Web3
developer platform and tools.
We basically are building like amazing tools to, you know, help builders, as you said,
create all their apps, basically from idea to building to monetizing their apps,
and then to scale every type of Web3 app from like gaming, DeFi, consumer apps.
We have a bunch of products that are awesome at the moment.
We have wallets,
smart contracts, gas sponsorship, payments, transactions, and also of course a bunch of
really great SDKs that you can use as a developer. Brand new API that I really recommend all
the builders to check out. And also we have some really, really good AI tools
at the moment for all the non-developers,
like we were talking about.
Not everyone is a developer nowadays.
And it's even more easier to build like bytecoding.
So we have some AI tools that are very exciting
to build every type of app that you want to build.
But yeah, that's a quick intro for the ones
who have never heard about it.
Yeah, I think the recent...
Yeah, you can go ahead to the...
I think the recent Nebula AI is worth mentioning as well.
We did a workshop with you guys earlier,
and that also makes it very easy to just kind of integrate
AI tools within the apps that people are building,
like, again, plug and play kind of feature.
So for people that haven't checked it out,
check it out now too, for sure.
And the question is for you,
if a builder only remembers one thing about your project,
what should that be?
So one thing about ThirdWeb that I would say like builders should remember is that
ThirdWeb like we work really hard, like all our team works really hard to make it really
easy and simple to basically build, launch and monetize every type of app.
Whether you know, like as I mentioned, whether that's like every type of app, whether, you know, like, as I mentioned, whether that's like every
type of industry, it could be from gaming, a DeFi app, a consumer app, we just make it
easy for every developer and not just developers, you know, builders in general, ideas, people
like, you know, very easy ways of integrating third web with your app and it's just like a complete open source
platform that like you can do from front end to back end to every type of thing and now of course
AI vibe coding makes it super easy as well to to integrate so I also like if there's any builders
here trying to to use their web, my DMs are open.
Please feel free to DM me with any questions that you might have.
We try really hard to put out content, to participate in this type of discussions, which are great.
And very excited to meet all the ecosystems and partners as well that are speaking here today.
Amazing.
And yeah, like definitely, I think from anywhere from authentication to, as I mentioned, AI, whatever somebody needs, they can definitely just start the free tier.
And the best part again about the work that I like is they're very approachable to everyone.
So you can literally connect with Giselle and there's other very active members as well
and they'll be happy to help you out.
Now this question I'm going to ask Giselle you first and then I'll just open it up to
anybody else that would like to contribute to it.
Is that what excites you most about being part of this Kickstart program and what do
you hope to get out of it basically?
Yeah, that's a really great question.
What excites me the most,
and like from ThirdWeb team as well,
is like, first of all,
like literally listening to all the partners,
ecosystems, projects that are building every day
and doing like amazing things.
Like some of them, like I've never heard before,
which is great.
I love, you know, getting to know new people, new projects.
But apart from that as well,
very, very excited to see how builders and ideas people,
everyone can use third web tools to share knowledge,
build their projects, even monetize,
and then hopefully scale their projects to the max.
Nice.
And I think after this AMA,
hopefully you'll be getting a lot of connects,
because again, that's one of the things
that I hear from builders all the time.
Like they used to ask me a lot,
like, can you connect me to so-and-so projects?
And ThirdWeb is one of the names in there that comes quite often on ramp is also another one and almost all of the projects
that are on this called mobila magic square like these are again big names that people
don't think they can have access to but but they can definitely, I think that most of them are, they have built themselves from ground up.
They understand the pains out there.
And they're there to help you guys, right?
So I think feel free to reach out to them for sure.
Anybody else that would want to share their thoughts on this one?
Yep, Jen, go ahead.
Yeah, I think the most yeah uh so basically the most important part for startups
and it's a find a trust ecosystem because too many offers on the market too amazing too many scam
too many scam and especially for non-experienced right uh founders who uh first uh doing first
project in web3 you need a real really find a trusted ecosystem and such program uh is really
door for that uh project partner who are in different areas of expertise at the same time,
project can focus on their core and rely on partners.
So this is important part, I guess.
Nice. Thanks. Thanks.
And Andre, you wanted to add to that as well. Go right ahead.
Yeah. So we're looking like if there is a way like to to gain visibility
like connect with thoroughly supported like you guys from this kickstart program uh we also would
like to validate our solution like um with a community that um values innovation seems that
all the kickstart program here partners and if there's like a chance
to show how human node and our biomapper can make like a safer web 3 safer for your community
and more human first and happy learning from all of you guys and have feedback to improve and scale faster.
So that's our main reason.
Awesome. Awesome.
Thanks.
Anybody else that wants to share anything?
I think we're running like over an hour.
I want to be mindful of people that start sleeping after an hour.
So with that, I'm just going to close the session. and then we'll be able to get people that start sleeping after an hour.
So with that, I'm just going to close the session.
Thank you so much for all the partners that came in.
Thank you so much for all the listeners that joined in and that will be listening to it later on as well.
I think this is a great session.
We didn't only learn about the projects themselves, but also about their insights into what's going to happen next,
how the builders can actually utilize their solutions,
their services, and any other ones really,
to speed up their processes to make it safer, faster, and everything.
I think other than that,
there's just so many offers and so many perks that all the projects have so generously offered
for this Kickstart program.
So definitely, definitely I would say
as soon as the Kickstart website is up,
go and check those perks out.
There is some announced already on our
Vinar Twitter or X page. So you can definitely go check them out in advance as well.
And you can even reach out to us at any time
if you want to connect with any of these partners.
And that goes for partners as well.
If you want to connect with each other, feel free to reach out.
We would be happy to connect you guys.
And on X, if you want to know how to apply for the program,
there's loads of posts on our VNR X site.
So just go to any of them, one of those.
There should be a link there.
You can apply to connect to any of these.
With that, again, thanks so much, everyone, for joining.
It was an exciting, amazing session.
I truly enjoyed it.
I truly learned a few things as well.
I hope you guys did too.
And have a great night.
Bye-bye.
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