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VeBetter Sessions
Recorded: April 23, 2025 Duration: 1:34:30Space Recording
Short Summary
In a dynamic discussion, Ecomil, Nubila Network, and PowerUp unveiled their innovative projects aimed at sustainability and user engagement in the crypto space. With strategic partnerships and community-driven initiatives, these projects are set to redefine how blockchain technology can contribute to environmental awareness and user incentives.
Full Transcription
Thank you. you
hey everybody welcome all we're gonna wait for everyone to join and then we can kick it off
i am getting the speakers up to the stage so that you guys can also talk.
Okay. I see some familiar faces.
Breaking balls, Filip, Bart.
Hey guys.
Iman is here too.
So let's get everyone to the stage and then we can kick it off.
So many things to cover Iman
getting into the stage All right there guys, how's it going?
Victor you're up for a chat today how you doing mate?
Doing great hi.
Hey guys.
Just a quick mic check.
Mic check.
Mic works.
I can hear you. I can stoic victor i hope you guys can hear me as well
perfect yeah you sound good you sound good yeah awesome so
We're waiting for the other speakers as well.
we're waiting for the other speakers as well
How was your Easter break?
How was the Easter break, guys?
Mine was good.
I was a little sick, but all good.
How was yours?
I've been recovering from a cold. I mean,'m better now but up until easter weekend i was in
the same state as you uh family stuff for me over easter which was nice um yeah
nice stuff yeah i guess there is a whole virus across all europe
i just found out you're not allowed to import cheese to the UK anymore.
Yes, true.
That was a little bit heartbreaking.
Where am I going to get my parmesan?
Yeah, no cheese and ham.
I was going to go to Spain to bring some ham.
It seems there's no more for the foreseeable future.
I don't know the ins and outs of it, but I know I was disappointed.
All right, guys.
We've got some teams up.
I'm not sure who Dylan is.
Dylan.
I don't know if you're on the list, mate,
but let's let you come up, shall we?
Let me have a little checky burst.
But, yeah. Guys, don't wait for me.
Let's get straight into this.
We've got a bunch of teams.
We've got a bunch of teams on.
Awesome.
So I think I can give an introduction to the space and we can kick it off.
and we can kick it off.
We're going to cover so many things.
We're going to cover so many things.
Many things that have been happening lately
on the foundation side as well as the builder side.
We have stuff to share with everyone
and we have stuff to cover as well.
So today we're going to have Ecomil joining us,
Nubila Network, Stoyak and Victor from the foundation
and a few other projects that are going to come up to the stage as well.
But yeah, I think we can kick it off with a little bit introduction to our dApps and projects.
And maybe you guys can also give an introduction to who you are for those who don't know.
I'm sure most of the people know, but we can do that.
So yeah, I will pass the mic to Iman first,
and then one by one we can cover everyone.
Yeah, absolutely.
So hello, everybody.
Good to be back.
Second session of these two spaces.
And yeah, quite keen on hearing
what's been cooking in VeChain.
We've got a small announcement for later as well.
I'll just be pinning a tweet in a moment.
And we've been working on a developer course.
So I'll share more details later
because I'd love to get everybody's feedback
and thoughts on that as well.
But yeah, that's me.
I mean, you know, quick hello to everybody that's on the panel.
And yeah, Rhys, if you've got anything you'd like to say, a quick hello.
And then we can get a quick introduction from the projects that are here.
Yeah, actually, just one quick thing.
Hi, guys, by the way. It's nice to have you all up here.
Just quickly, we've got the Galactica Hard Fork coming. It's happening. And what we're going to
be doing, or what a couple of us at B-Chain are going to be doing is offering some time to help
you guys, if you're working on a dApp, if you've got any products or services on chain to help
migrate. So a lot of the tools will kind of be funneling into the SDK. And so we're going to
just try and provide some time or some guidance to try and help you guys get prepared for that.
So if you're building on VeChain, just send me a DM. And if you need any support or if you have any questions,
let me know and we can help get you over the line
so that you're ready for the hard fork.
All right, that's it for me.
It's nice to see everyone.
Let's dive straight in.
All right, who wants to go first?
I think we can clearly go to Ecomeal first. How are
you guys doing? So I would like to ask you a few questions to learn more about Ecomeal
and maybe you guys can give an introduction, but I'm specifically interested in what's
the DEP all about and how do users track their meals and earn rewards
yeah yeah thank you first of all really thank you for this opportunity i think these spaces are
very important for the the app especially for a new one like echo mill uh yeah um i my name is raffaele i'm the co-founder of efebia
efebia is a software development company specializing in blockchain technology and we are based in
italy and we are we are a team of almost 40 people and we work with VeChain since many years.
But Ecomin is our first setup.
And so we already have other developers working in other projects.
So maybe we will introduce in the ecosystem many other apps.
This is our goal.
We would like to bring value and contribute to the ecosystem and many other the apps this is our goal we would like to bring value a contribute
to the ecosystem growth uh we truly believe uh we better that was enormous potential i i always said
this is just the beginning from my point of view and we are probably only at the first 10 percent
of its full capabilities um in with the echo meal, we are addressing two key sustainability issues,
reducing plastic waste and promoting food sustainability.
For those who don't know, echo meal is next to the app
that allows users to upload a photo and track their habits
during meal consumption.
And we are focusing both on the use of sustainability and usable materials
and on full sustainability itself.
This involves considering factors like sustainability or the location
or the location where the meal is consumed.
where the meal is consumed.
And this is why, for instance, we ask for the user's geolocation, because if we talk
about food sustainability, we have to consider, of course, where this meal is consumed.
And we also have a soft when the user upload the photo, our AI start analysis of the variables and assign a score and the reward based on some parameters that we have configured.
And then we start more or less lengthy approval process with multiple steps.
The first steps are automatically and then we have the final step
it's a manual approval and we are keep improving this approval process uh also because at the
moment we we spend a lot of time to improve our AI and also to manual approval of our submission. We are
quite happy for the first, I think this is the first amount maybe, yes, it's four or
five rounds that we are live on Vettedao and yeah, it has been a good start. We aim to grow up quickly.
We keep working on introducing new features.
We recently introducing the ability to share on Twitter when a user get the reward from Ecomill.
And we are working to introducing some leaderboards.
So we would like to make the app more, let's say,
more social and more engaging for our users.
So, okay, that's it.
Awesome. our users so okay that's it okay awesome i think that was a very great breakdown and huge success to you hoping the best and we'll cover more about what you guys are doing in the
coming moments one question though i'm based in italy too. And then when we go to shopping, I also see many grannies use this little car.
It's not a shopping car, but it's kind of a bag that you can carry along.
It has small wheels.
Would that be considered as a reusable bag as well?
it as a reusable bag as well uh yes uh every every dish is not just uh it's not just plastic
that then you put in the rubbish it's disposable of course we have a on sustainability if you use a plastic reusable maybe you have
50 of the score so it's it's not one or zero it's more percentage stuff
awesome okay that's that's very good that you guys have scoring as well.
So yeah, if anybody has questions, feel free to ask,
or we can move on to the next project.
Let's get everyone introduced.
Yeah, let's go.
Yeah, yeah, let's get round everyone,
and then we can start.
Yeah, let's go with, yeah, so Nubila Network, jump in, quick intro.
Hi guys, my name is Darren and I'm the marketing lead for Nubila Network.
And for Nubila, we're trying to build a AI-powered financial layer for weather data or climate data as well.
So although we have just recently dropped into the VeChain ecosystem
with a major integration with VeChain, but our relationship actually started back in July last
year in which that VeChain was part of one of our lead investor in our seed round so um right
now for so for so for uh breaking balls um reheat uh atmos and also uh at adonat uh natil you guys
uh and also 420.vet, you guys may have known,
recently we have launched several campaigns on surrounding VeChain,
for example, like connecting your wallet directly on Nubila.network and also connecting your X account.
You receive free barrier tokens as well.
So, yep, so for Nubila, we have two major...
So for us, the vision itself is building a decentralized environmental data network
in which the devices that we're currently selling
and have already deployed all over the world.
Marco helps collect real-time hyperlocal weather data through our decentralized weather stations, Marco again,
and leverage AI to provide accurate, actionable insights for weather-sensitive industries.
accurate, actionable insights for weather-sensitive industries,
for example, agriculture, renewable energy, logistics, and even finance as well.
So we aim to build an environmental data oracle
to incentivize IoT devices while promoting climate change and also sustainability.
while promoting climate change and also sustainability.
Okay, very cool.
I've got a few questions.
So, but let's get on.
So Dylan, you're here as well.
Let's get you to introduce yourself, projects,
and then we can move on to some questions for the projects.
For sure.
Thanks, guys, for bringing me up,
and thanks, VBetterDAO and, you know,
the whole team at VeChain for, you know,
kind of giving us an opportunity to kind of voice our ideas.
Our application is called PowerUp.
We are hosting it now for just, like, some beta testing at app.powerup.vet,
so you can connect your wallet,
try to understand kind of what our interface is all about. But it's a fun idea. It started off as a hackathon and we ended up winning in a VeChain hackathon and then got really awesome
feedback about how, you know, like we can basically make people's lives better by gamifying
their everyday lives so if they wanted to save money on their power or on their
gas or on their electricity bill we would basically find a way to perform a
zero-knowledge proof of their utilities in the house by scanning that the fact
that they hey I lowered my utility bills on chain on V chain,
we would say, Hey, from day one to day 30, I have lowered my power consumption. And we gamify that
through objectives. So we give the users in our dashboard ways of, you know, uh, you know, like
we recommend them to not shower so that they would lower their water bill and that kind of crazy
thing. So it was a little degeny. So we had a degen mode and we had a non degen mode. So if you
really didn't want to shower and save money and to get better tokens, that was the vibe.
So we wanted to gamify your everyday life so that you can save money and live better and that was the power up.
So is the idea as well to reward people for their like how effective and
essentially how organized they are as well so is there an element there so for
example my attention sometimes goes everywhere I might be add and um you know i need a bit of uh stimulus to be able
to concentrate uh in certain things right i'm quite good with work but you know when it comes
to washing the dishes and you know those kind of more boring stuff i tend to postpone so is that
is the idea to to also give you yeah so if you're exactly like it's literally everything in the house
so if you're watching tv and you're watching TV for too long and you have the power up app, you just got to be like, okay, I'm going to take a picture of my power bill from the beginning and the end of the month and then provide proofs that I turned off the TV or that I turned off the sink or, you know, that I stopped showering two minutes in or, you know, whatever it is, there's just little gamified ways of making sure that you're doing better for the world, for your house,
and you're lowering your overall power consumption.
So it's powering up in every way possible.
We wanted to gamify this traditional method of scan to earn,
or basically what a lot of these different DeFi builders were doing.
They were scanning trash on the ground and then making VBetter tokens.
And we were like, well, let's take that a step further.
Let's gamify everything.
Let's actually scan and get people to actually learn and incentivize themselves
to think of different ways to actually make sure that they're lowering their power consumption
depending on wherever they are in the world.
So if they live like a hermit in the middle of nowhere
and they wanna find more ways
of lowering their power consumption
but still living their everyday lives,
our platform would be there for them
and give them a little bit more of an incentive to do better.
Nice, really cool.
I do have a question for Nubula as well,
because I was listening and then checking as well the site
and all that.
So is the idea as well to combine a bit of like an Oracle
and a bit of a D-PIM so that people can have their devices
and get rewarded as well?
Can you share a bit more of that? Like what's the benefits for people can have their devices and get rewarded as well um can you share a bit more of that like what what's the the benefits for people to have the devices and how that connects across
the entire network um yes of course so as we mentioned um for newbila we are we are a dpng project so for example like um for the users that who has for the users who have
connected the uh who have set up or deployed uh their marco devices they will initially they will
essentially be provided with our mining points in which that they will be able to convert it
mining points in which that they will be able to convert it into the upcoming
newbie tokens in the future. So for the macro itself we do collect
like the essential weather data for example temperature, humidity, air
pressure, wind speed, UV levels as well. So, but the whole idea is that because right now the whole environmental data or, how should
I put this?
I usually introduce the importance of Nubula with some pop culture references, like in the role of The Social Network,
which is a movie about Facebook.
In the show, Mark Zuckerberg pointed out a simple truth.
If you understand mythology, you can predict prices from heating oil.
This statement actually underscores the substantial impact of environmental
data on economic activities and also decision. So, environment data extends beyond mere weather
conditions to encompass ecological, ocean graphic, and also terrestrial insights so we wanted to use this um the key features for dip in
itself and um and to incentivize users to help us to collect um the necessary necessary data
because right now the way the data is being collected is too central uh it's too centralized
is being collected is too central uh it's too centralized and when i say centralized uh i would
mean that essentially the data is fragmented and also the uh it's outdated so you can't actually
use it um for um for real-time prediction.
So what we wanted to provide is a mechanism in which that with this decentralized network of devices,
our users will be part of the Nubula ecosystem
and also provide instant, accurate insights to the world.
And of course, right now, we do provide our APIs to several businesses
and also research facilities as well.
So in terms of if an enterprise wanted to buy,
for example, if an enterprise bought the data that our users have
collected, the part of the revenue will be used to buy back the tokens or even, you know,
will be sent as an airdrop to incentivize the users as well. So we're trying to build
a flywheel cycle out of this. Hopefully that makes sense.
flywheel cycle out of this. Hopefully that makes sense.
And just to clarify something, so mention that
there are newbie tokens. So that means the rewards are not on
Veechain tokens, but rather your own token?
Well, this is the beauty. This is actually a beauty.
This is actually the beautiful part. Of course, if you're running a Nubula Marco, you will be getting the Nubula points, right?
In which you'll be able to convert it into newbie tokens in the future.
But as of now, since we are part of the VBetterDAO,
since we are part of the VBetterDAO,
so we have launched another incentive
in which that we can additionally incentivize the users
for playing a role within the Nubila ecosystem.
We have done that in the past with IoTeX,
in which that we have launched a dual mining campaign with them,
in which that if you own the Marco devices,
you can actually just stake the device NFT
and you can earn IoTX in the process as well.
So we're using the same model as well within the VeChain ecosystem.
I think if Breaking Balls is here here he's going to be so mad because um right now from
from from our team will be releasing a dashboard um a dashboard mining mechanism in which that if
you own a marco or a validator node you'll be able to earn better tokens as well. So instead of just getting points from the Nubula device
and also, or the newbie token,
you'll be rewarded with IOTX and also better tokens as well.
So instead of deal mining,
you're actually try mining right now.
I got a great follow-up for that, actually, Nubula, sorry, if that's all right.
So how does this lay into the sustainability goals of VBetterDAO?
So in terms of how the weather intelligence is going to be used, right?
In terms of how the weather intelligence is going to be used, right?
So there are several factors, like one of which that we plays a huge role, not just in the economy, but in sustainability as well. You need to understand the wind speed and also at or even if it's solar, you have to understand like what's the UV index to get the best to get the best output.
Right. So basically what we what we do is because we're we're super we're hyper local so that the data itself is.
is subjected to the area that it is in, right?
So with the data that the devices have collected,
we can provide a more precise prediction AI model, etc.
For the companies that we work with to be more efficient
and waste less energy, you know, be more efficient
in their operations as well.
So yeah, hopefully that
hopefully that answered your question.
But in terms of like the sustainable ecosystem,
where device owners collect raw data and Nubia
enhances and sells to businesses and government entities.
We hope that this model ensures continuous improvement and also expansion of not just for Nubia,
but also with the players that are within our ecosystem,
filled by the revenue generated from data sales and also reinvested in enhancing the technology
and rewarding the community.
All right, thanks for that, mate.
I just would wonder,
basically you're collecting data
about the weather to sell it
and then you reward people who use your devices to send you the
data is that right that's how it works um i would say that they collect the data right because it's
true how we collected the data it's through the devices that they own yeah yeah so like they buy
so for example if i if i was going to do this, just so I have a complete picture, I buy a device off you, and then I stick it on my roof or whatever.
And that collects data, sends it to you, you sell that data, like local weather data to whoever needs it, and then you reward me in beta tokens and nubiler tokens.
then you reward me in better tokens and Nubula tokens.
Yes, and if we have a dual mining campaign going on
with IoTX as well, you can additionally earn IoTX token.
Okay.
All right, sorry, just to have a complete explanation
of the process, I didn't really track
when you were talking, that was all.
All right, cheers, mate. Thank you. does anyone else have any questions for Nebula otherwise uh
we can we can chuck around power up in Ecomeal um not Nebula do you have a question for Ecomeal
uh you know since it seems it's the newer um app and um from what I understand it's more focused on
from what I understand is more focused on consumer habits, right?
So, EcoMeal is trying to reward those people,
whether it's, you know, groceries,
or you're ordering, you know,
takeaway food to your house,
to essentially reward them with those,
again, rewards, I said rewards many times,
but the question for you is,
if there's also an enterprise program that you guys have planning?
So instead of just relying on individuals to make those choices,
if someone's making an order, for example, I barely go to the supermarket.
I always get my groceries delivered.
Not because I'm posse or annoying, I just don't have a lot of time.
But it always comes in plastic bags. not because I'm you know post or annoying I just don't have a lot of time but it
always comes in plastic bags so is there a potential for a Camille to have that
enterprise offering so that then the incentives are given to organizations to
become greener as well well yes yes we honest we discussed about it sometimes internally to create
uh personal not only maybe for enterprise but also for a group of people that are
dining together or just hitting together and so but it is not easy. We would like to keep all things simple. And so now, of course, you're focusing on just individual people. in the future for group people, also for a business company
and to trying to improve their habits having lunch together.
Yeah.
And if you have any suggestion, that would be very helpful.
Yeah.
More than one.
Yeah, no, I just think, yeah, think that there's an interesting thing right because
yeah um you know i'm based in the uk for example and you know i the the few times that i go to the
supermarket i do have a um tote bag you know like a cotton cotton bag um and um because otherwise
you know the supermarket does uh pay um yeah sorry that you you have to pay for the plastic bags.
So, you know, wondering if the opportunity is to actually reward the supermarket
so that they actually stop producing the plastic bags,
because regardless of me getting that or not,
then, you know, they're still producing them.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, it makes sense.
And I think also all over the world, especially in Italy,
there are a lot of companies that are bringing your lunch at home.
And an idea could be to create a partnership with all those services of these companies to uh i don't know improve their disposable packaging
and also reward people if they i don't know maybe they pay one euro one dollar more for having a
not disposable package and maybe we can give reward people in better
if they also have an Ecomill account.
That is something that I think would be interesting
to do in the future, yes.
Definitely.
And a question from my side is,
I've seen there's two scoring metrics.
So the first one is how reusable the plate or the material is.
And then second thing is the eco-friendly ingredients.
And so for the daily users right now,
how important is to keep them more eco-friendly
to get more rewards uh and which metric is is
you know they should focus at let's say for example if they're for i like eating lots of
un-eco-friendly stuff but i also also use very uh reusable plates i mean i wash them daily i use ceramic plates so would that lower my score yeah well
yes if yes plastic it's even if it's reusable it's still better than just a plate that we see,
we check that it's just used just one time.
Yes, for the score, it's 50-50.
So 50%, we check the food sustainability itself,
and the other 50% is more related to the plate.
If we see a plastic bottle or a glass,
so we check on the photo, not only the plate with the food so we will check on the
everything that we can understand and identify with our artificial intelligence in the photo
awesome awesome i also have a question for power up. So Dylan, so just for your instance, there is, I'm seeing many people interested in the concept.
And there's some questions around the marketing and social presence.
How do you guys plan to get your socials, you know, more in eyes of people?
And what are some of the future marketing efforts?
That's a really good question.
I think the future marketing efforts are going to have to come through just a variety of the communities
that are interested in finding out or giving us or us putting out more information on gas, water, electric, you know, incentives.
And so a part of the campaign strategy is to basically say, you know, you know, what
are various ways of like lowering your gas consumption and then just coming out with
a bunch of memes and like kind of making sure that people are aware that we're coming up
with a variety of challenges.
And so our Twitter thread is likely soon going to be turning into just a gigantic challenge feed.
And this will be just a fun and engaging way, which is kind of the point.
You know, it's gamifying the incentives in general so that you can lower your power consumption.
So it's not like rocket science trying to figure out how to kind of do that.
And we're trying to figure out more ways where the community can kind of just engage with us, if anything, because we're trying to keep it light and happy.
We're not trying to kind of throttle people with, you know, a bunch of information that they might not be aware of.
with, you know, a bunch of information that they might not be aware of. You know, a lot of people
just don't know, like, why it's important to be carbon friendly, earth friendly, you know,
environment friendly, or even, you know, at your home, they don't even know what's the meaning of,
like, you know, lowering your power consumption of what that does to you and your life and
how it can actually save you money and time and all sorts of things. And so like, we want to find out more ways that are creative,
like not only logistically,
but we also want to come out with,
you know,
memes and other sorts of things so that we can gamify the process because
it's supposed to be a game.
It's supposed to feel like,
you know,
it's supposed to feel like it's not hard to,
you know,
just do better in life.
And that's,
we're just going to keep that motto, you know,
rolling. And we're looking for endorsements because it's really, the community is the thing
that we need more of an interest from. In order for us to have a social presence, we need to
basically have people who care about these types of incentives in general. And, you know, of course,
like VBetterDAO and others that think like this and the
eco-friendly, you know, people who really care about the world in general and they build businesses
around these ideas, you know, like, where are they? And so that's where our target market is.
And so, you know, using Twitter as a platform to really kind of target those types of audiences
in a variety of areas, you know, like getting that community feedback from you guys is going to help because you guys know a lot of these things.
We're reaching out to the community creative at the same time where people can have fun when they come to our page and they can come and find challenges for themselves, come to our app and earn better tokens to kind of gamify their life to do better?
Yeah, sounds cool.
Sounds cool. I do have a quick question for you. Yeah, sounds cool. Sounds cool.
I do have a quick question for you, Dylan, as well.
But just before I do, guys, if you want to come up and ask questions to the team, just
start requesting.
We'll start letting people up.
I might give you a message first just to verify that you're a human being.
So just a heads up on that.
So if I'm not letting you up immediately, just check your messages. you might have one from me. But anyway, no, sorry, mate.
Okay, so I have a question. It revolves around data. How are you handling data? What data are
you collecting or expecting? And what are you doing to kind of yeah that's a great question so yeah yeah exactly like
protecting well it's basically it's about privacy protections and so the original idea that we came
up with was like if we were we were to basically do an artificial scan of a general template like
most people have a tg and e bill um or sorry an fpg and a and so and so on and so on so like we
have all these various templates
of bills that we're going to basically use artificial intelligence to kind of have and
cater towards varieties of scans. And so when you scan your PG and e-bill, which is a pretty popular
one, most people at their homes have these. When they get them in the mail, they usually get it in
digital format, right? And so like, when you scan this, you basically,
we want to be able to put this information in. And this is usually known as full homomorphic
encryption, where you can do something locally, and privately, and you can basically encrypt data
at rest. And you can basically have this data in a vectorized database that's encrypted.
And then you can use a variety of tactics like TEEs or which are known
as confidential enclaves to decrypt the data to prove that the existence of the data does exist
that there are a variety of data that we want to reveal without revealing the private information
of the user and so this is key because there's a lot of sensitive information about a person in
their bill such as where they
live, who they are, the history of the bill.
And we're basically just doing the work of trying to analyze what is everything about
this bill?
How do we cater towards building an artificial agent where we can actually take in this data
and this information and then be able to perform fully homomorphic encryption tactics and zero knowledge
proofs to reveal certain parts of the data without revealing the sensitive information that would be
otherwise known as private but it's being on input on chain so we want to prioritize privacy
and confidentiality as much as possible that would be the core of the technology it's something that
scans your stuff right and if it's not powerUp as a, just a brand, you know,
PowerUp as a brand is super powerful
because we wanted to encapsulate a lot of this attention
and going around and seeking challenges and scan to earn,
which is a powerful tactic for,
especially for community building, for,
you saw it with Pokemon Go, hell,
you basically just scan the street
and you find Pokemon everywhere. It'sively, it's the trash that's
in downtown San Marcos or something like this. And then you go there and you go with a bunch of
random people from the VBetterDAO. And then you basically just all start picking up stuff. And
it's like, well, what incentivized you to do that? Power up. It's just a good, it's a good vibe,
I think. And so if you put it all together, well, where you were sucks because
if you know where I am, then you can come and track me. And that might be really valuable data,
which is why we're trying to privatize and make that confidential so that if people do want to
pay for that data, well, guess who they're going to have to pay? They're going to have to pay and
be better and they're going to have to stake to power up so that they can actually claim this
data, especially if they want to get hints and analytics from our platform without actually revealing the underlining data.
But if that data is powerful and if it's expensive to buy otherwise, then I think what's the most
important thing in terms of business strategy is that how do we sell this data to others where if
it's absolutely confidential and private, how do we at least give governments and officials and cities and so on, like, and some sort of like an idea of, or like some sort
of a heat map of like, like, what is going on in their city? Where is it? Where is it? Where is it
the dirtiest, right? Where are people creating more challenges in their society? Like, if I go
to downtown San Francisco right now, it's basically you just walk
around and there's a bunch of piss all over the place. It's crazy. And like there's heroin needles,
you got people basically dying on the street. It's insane. And so like, it's really sad to see
the world change. And if you want to do something about it and you want to power up society,
the idea is that you set challenges for others in the world. And whether it be private or not
private, you want to be able to incentivize
others to basically gamify their everyday life to basically make their lives better whether it be the
environment or a town or a city it's just it should be out of the public good that's the point
right and i think this is not only something that the ethereum foundation and people like vechain
and others that are Ethereum-like ecosystems,
this is the number one priority in my opinion, is that how do we create more public good rather than just trying to incentivize people to just buy things and use tokens
and they don't really know what the purpose is.
And I think we need to give utility to assets more often than not.
And I think that's sort of the mission of how do we create a token that incentivizes behavior to, you know, make people's lives better.
I hope that kind of wraps it up because I'm kind of answering multiple questions for you at the same time because I don't have much time to really explain our motives and all this other kind of stuff.
But that is the motivation here.
And we would love your endorsement because, like, we think that we have a really good opinion and view on this.
And we have a lot of really talented people from San Francisco and amazing engineers that would love to jump onto this.
And so that's sort of what we're doing here.
And we're trying to make sure that people are aware of what our motivations were to begin with when we were doing the hackathon.
Yeah, awesome. Thanks for sharing that, man.
I don't think it entirely answered my
question but you went above and beyond on other things anyway and so it doesn't matter
breaking balls thanks for joining us man how are you doing good man how are you yeah good thank you
um yeah wow my brain just broke from all that information. You brought it Dylan. Holy shit. Um, seems like a huge project at the moment. And I think, you know, I think inviting, maybe coming on a space to Pauly, we have, uh, you know, some dedicated time with you so we can really like dig into like how this all will work because you know at the start of the conversation
it sounded like oh I'm just going to scan my electricity bills and then it morphed into I'm
picking up needles in San Francisco uh and in in bags and so it's just like a matter of like where
are you starting and where it is like everything you're saying now is where you're starting or are
you going to be starting small with that? And then my secondary
question is, as far as scanning new personal information, receipts and all that, I know that's
like a slippery slope for some people being okay with doing that, even if you say it's encrypted.
But in general, what are your plans as far as farming goes? Have you guys not been in?
You've been on like ready to be endorsed for a while.
Have you been testing?
Have you been like, like, what are your, you know, steps as far as like fighting farmers
Because they can recreate, you know, a receipt or a bill.
I, you know, I heard you say that you might have to like also take a picture of your, your shower, just seems like there's like a lot of things just like all like
throwing up everything up at the wall. So I just some more of a clear expectation of day one,
if this gets endorsed, what will the user be doing from the get go?
Yeah. So like the super boring version of the application is just scanning things like the PG&E bill, you know, selecting it from the ones that we have already scanned and doing other like things like, you know, what solar activities do usually is that they usually scan the outdoors, usually on a house.
the outdoors usually on a house for a lot of homeowners they have like their uh the electricity
usage outside and so like when people want to bring in quotes for solar companies they usually
just scan this they take a picture of it and then they have that person send it to the solar company
to give them a quote so it's the same idea here so it's scanning for the gas, electric, and water utilities. And there are three very specific home utilities and office
bills and email types and PDFs and like the in-person mail types that we're collecting.
We're creating a sort of a template. It's going to be very ragabond boring. It's not what we want
to do, which is the exciting part and to differentiate the
difference, which is, yeah, like scanning your shower and making a social media feed on power
up to kind of show people that you're doing these things, like you're lowering your power
or that you're turning off your TV or that you're turning off the shower. That's the whole point of
the alpha mode versus the degen mode, which is just to kind of show people of like various ways
with each other, like how they're incentivizing each other to kind of do things for themselves and whether that be
super cringy or not i think that's the funny thing about this which is the whole idea that it started
off with which is like i'm not literally saying turning off the shower and then that's how you're
going to get v better tokens like that's dumb But it's the idea and the challenge of basically incentivizing people
of how is it that they had lowered their water bill this year or this month
and the guy who posts all the videos or the things of him not showering for a month
and then somehow getting VBetter token
and basically making sure that he didn't spend a bunch of water
is kind of hilarious to us.
Like that's, that's, that's the whole idea of making some community ideas and incentives
for, for people to kind of come to our platform and to gamify the ways that they basically,
you know, lower their power consumption overall.
And that's, that's effectively what we're saying here.
And from all the way to the, to explain the whole heroin needle thing, it's just like, yeah,
we want to get people outdoors so that they can go and explore in the world and see that
there are local challenges in their area.
These are milestones, a part of the roadmap of how the technology works as sort of like
a just a, like basically it's sort of like a GPS of where are people setting up challenges
similar to how Snapchat, when you look at stories online, you're just looking at various challenges that are in the area.
People who complain about there's too much trash on the beach.
You want to set a challenge for people to go and go there.
And you want to see how many people pick up the challenge, take photos and do all sorts of things.
things and then people can actually see that those challenges were submitted.
And then people can actually see that those challenges were submitted.
It's up to the VBetterDow to kind of submit tokens to this project and to vote on how
much sort of like quadratic funding.
So those are just like the three variety aspects of what the application plans on being.
In terms of our milestones, you know, we've hit the landing page, we've hit the scanning
application and some of the power consumption,
you know, utility bills that are in the back end and how we're going to scan to identify what those
look like. Currently building in the zero knowledge proof stuff so that we can encrypt the data as best
as we can to put it on chain so that you have a proof of history on VeChain. And then the last
part is basically we're finishing up some of the analytics so that people can get some heat maps and other types of data signatures and fingerprints so that, you know, if you're a part of the VDAO or V-Chain organization, this is going to be an extremely useful tool so that we can kind of get some insights with administrators and others.
Great. Just to follow up, because you weren't able to answer my question. As far as farming goes, because building a DApp and all that stuff is very challenging, and you have way more knowledge than I ever will. stakeholder. And I talked to a lot of D apps in there. There are a lot of ways they're trying to
combat farmers right now. And a lot of the issues that they face is the minute that they get on the
the DAO and the minute they're endorsed, the minute it's mainnet, it is it is a war. So I guess,
you know, again, to ask you, because your main functionality at this point, although boring, it's the way people will be rewarded.
What are you guys, you know, some devs don't want to give away what their tools are to fight
farmers or whatever AI can, you know, copy a bill. Do you guys, is that something that you
guys are thinking about? Like, obviously your idea is great and i think you know like the marketing side of it'll be a lot of fun i understand
now people just take a picture not showering we don't have to submit that picture it'll just be
a way to market power up but just bringing it back you know just rewinding it a little bit
just for the functionality of getting the rewards how do you guys have plans in place or at least thinking about how you're going
to you know fight these farmers yeah um so i categorize this into uh two different distinct
fields um this is a pretty technical answer so uh i i thought i answered this by telling you that it
was a fully homomorphic encryption. Yeah, no idea.
Okay, so what this means is that you use zero-knowledge proofs,
which means that there are configurations in the front end
where a person generates a proof of some data
that they are actually submitting to a server.
So in a client-data relationship,
what you're doing is that you're encrypting data that's at rest,
and you are vectorizing this data, and you're basically tagging it with public and private keys from
your wallet. So I have a VWorld wallet. I enable a scan of a piece of data that I want to verify
whether or not this is an actual bill. Now, I'm going to look at the history of this person's
public and private key data in the back end. I'm going to basically look and say, oh, this is Dylan. He submitted X, Y, and Z bills
this month. We basically know for a fact that this bill can only be submitted once every month. So,
the guy who's trying to do it once every single day doesn't make any sense. So we can automatically put some of the Sybil resistance into effect to reduce the amount of bloat that comes in to the server.
You can also do artificial scans as well to verify if whether or not the actual bill was submitted correctly.
So there's a preference for people to upload it as a PDF and to have it
be digitally sent. So because every single bill comes with a unique ID. So a lot of people don't
know this, but there's an actual like there's kind of like a hidden key in every bill so that
it can uniquely identify the proof that the bill was sent to the person and that it can be identified
in their own local databases. And with partnership with PG&E and these others, you can actually submit and verify that the
data was correct rather than having a bloat of data that is not correct.
By basically just, you know, also you can prove that in the front end, the data that
was configured, say, like, if I put in my name, my date, and so on and so forth, how
do I prove that, like, the data isn't flubbed, right? And that you so on and so forth how do i prove that like the data
isn't flubbed right and that you're not just like saying that you've lowered the data like i didn't
just get like a photoshopped you know bill or something like this um so there's a variety of
like uh data traces that you can actually scan for as well um i'm not going to get into that
that is secret sauce yes and i would encourage most people to look into how surveillance technology really works
and how under full surveillance there is a way to protect the public and private key infrastructure.
And we're working closely with a team from Enigma Cybersecurity to kind of enable users to input very specific sets of data that only they would know.
So this way we can actually
locally verify that this person is a human as well, not necessarily a bot. So this is known as
AI civil resistance. So how do you uniquely identify a person as being a human versus not a
human? Now, you know, PowerUp is a really fun app and we love the idea, but in our professional
lives, me and my team work in a variety of fields from building
protocols and doing cybersecurity. And we thought that we would put something together and basically
hack VChain. It was funny because when we came to the VChain hack, we even realized that we were
able to hack some of the light nodes infrastructure back into the United States, and that wasn't
supposed to happen. So I basically forked the entire repository and showed that I can send a mainnet, you know,
transaction locally without having to be a validator. And so when I was signing these blocks,
I was saying, okay, like, how do I prove to the whole world that I am and am not a validator?
how do I prove to the whole world that I'm that I am and am not a validator so a part of what the
hack was was to kind of show that there were very minimal like identification protocols that were on
vchain so in a sense like if you want to identify a bill was coming from a from a human it's like
yeah it's cool that everyone here at the vchain hack is going to be scanning a bunch of bills and
proving that trash is being picked up but how do you know that that's not just an AI generated photo? And how do you prove that that
was a real person that submitted this thing? And how am I going to trust this entity with all this
information and so on and so forth? So that's why we have these very specific scanning tactics and
data local fetching tactics such as FHE. And you can also prove humanity through what's known as a proof
of humanity using a zero knowledge proof. And this proof can identify unique information about
the person that does have a KYC with our platform because they do have a name and email and an
address and they're submitting real information. I mean, like unless you want to give humanity to Tesla robots in the future and they own homes, I mean, we're going to have a different future, guys.
But, like, who knows what's going to happen?
Like, what is humanity?
What's not humanity?
I mean, like, that's some Star Wars shit.
But let's talk about something else.
Like, what is a proof of humanity?
It's something where a person, a human being, knows something that not an AI would know.
So that is a part of the humanity,
you know, the humanity verification as well. So this is an interesting topic of how to prove
identity, but there's a variety of ways. Biometrics is another one. So there's a variety of deltas
that my buddy Mark, who is the main protocol engineer of PowerUp, He put a lot of time and effort into identifying a variety of Deltas,
biometrics, 2FA, and YubiKeys, and so on.
So we're selecting the best options for users.
That's going to be easier for them to use, of course.
Oh, thank you.
All right.
Well, I think no one will say you don't know your shit.
So I appreciate that very detailed answer. Oh, thank you. All right. Well, I think no one will say you don't know your shit. So, uh,
appreciate that very detailed answer. And yeah, man, you guys should even worry your team. If
you want to reach out to poly TV or I can make the link, uh, if you guys want to come on and
just shoot the shit and have fun, get to know you guys learn about, you know, obviously from
the hackathon, um, just your history history and stuff but thanks for coming on thanks
yeah no i appreciate your guys's time i have a lot of fun talking about tech so yeah i'm happy
to shoot the shit and bring the team on so you all can meet them and would love uh to love have
your support of course and we we love the idea we like you know we like what we're trying to figure
out here and we think that we can bring a lot of value to the community so um yeah thanks guys well thank you guys for two great things i think great question and great answer so
to move on with the community questions uh i have some people in my dms uh who aren't able to speak
up but they were uh they sent their questions to me CSEC, this question comes to Nubila, Nubila Network.
So he's curious how to run a node on Nubila, if you could answer that.
Yep. So as of now, you can run it by our dashboard at the site Nubila.network.
Nubila.network. So it's quite it's fairly simple just head to you can just
So it's quite, it's fairly simple.
head to Nubila.network slash dashboard and with that just press mining and for
that your nodes is essentially running but in order for as of now because for
the for the validated nodes itself it's not a part it will be live on the day where the dashboard mining is live as well.
So when the dashboard mining goes live, people who host the validator nodes will be rewarded with the better tokens,
but on the backend we'll be collecting points,
accumulating points to the validator nodes holder.
Cool, cool.
So another question to you is from Nathan.
He's curious if he purchases a new Blamarko unit, when does it get shipped?
So it depends on the region, right? Because we do have like distributors in the States and also in Europe as well.
So depending on the region, usually it takes one to two weeks to arrive.
But as of now, we did release a good news today.
So because people have been providing feedback that they missed some of our deal mining campaigns
just because their Marco has not arrived during that process.
So they can just head to our dashboard and also verify their email after purchase
and they can join in the deal mining instantly.
Okay, perfect. I think that answers the question.
So yeah, we can move on to Steve.
I saw your hands up a moment ago, but...
Yeah, and apologies if I'm asking something that's already been answered.
I can reach out specifically to Nubula after this space.
But I was just trying to wrap my head around, you're selling a device.
I'm looking at the DAP.
I see where I can buy the device using better,
and then it's rebated over the course of a few months,
depending on what number you've bought,
if it's after 100 and things like that.
But can you just give a brief overview of,
and if you've already answered this,
don't worry about it. I'll reach out after the space to get with you directly,
but could you give a brief overview of what a brand new user such as myself who
wants to get involved and basically what,
what the order of things we need to do is like, I'm,
I'm interested in the three different tiers.
I see that there's a multiplier tied to each one through your better rewards.
But are all the modules that you're buying, the Marcos, are those all the same device
and you're just basically contributing more better up front for a higher multiplier and
rewards later, you know rewards later in the year?
So thank you for the question. I do think like for the first, for the early bird rebates,
I think you're referring to the article that we've sent, right? So the first hundred purchases it's not the quantity quantity that you buy but um in what order um in what order
did you order with right like if you're in for example if you're the hundred foot and you're the
99 person that bought the mark uh bought our marco then you'll get a hundred percent uh better
rebate with 12 month in investing so um in terms i, I'm sorry, like, I'm sorry, Steve,
can you please, apart from that, can you please repeat the question?
Sure, sure.
So when I go in to buy the, I guess I'm referencing,
there's the ability to buy a Marco for 300 USDT and whatever the equivalent is and better for that.
But then there's also nodes or is the node itself applied to the Marco unit?
I see.
It seems like two different things.
Yeah, it is two different things.
For Marco, it's the device that captures and also collects data.
And for the nodes, it is essentially our validator nodes,
but we have three different tiers.
So each validator nodes is priced differently.
For example, like Cloud node is 300,
rainy node is like five, let me double check.
Yep, 600 USDT.
And for the sunny node is 1,500 USDT and for the Sunny node it's a 1500 USDT right in which that each different validator
nodes will have different daily emissions in points which you will be able to convert
it into future tokens future new newbie no newbie less token so i think you mentioned about the additional bonuses uh additional bonus or the
multipliers as well so this is part of the dashboard mining campaign uh in which that we are trying to
incentivize users um for example if you bought uh if you bought uh marco with um with with better right so essentially instead of a 1x multiplier you'll be
getting like a 1.2 times 1.2 multiplier so essentially from the tokens that
you'll be getting essentially is larger within the pool.
So, for example, I think in the article we did mention as well,
we did put on a cap just to prevent some of the whales swiping up the pool.
So we want things to be transparent and also we want things to be fair as well.
Okay and if you get a Marco unit, are you required to get a node or is the node?
Oh no, no, no. The node is optional. So the role that Marco and and validator nodes, they're playing different roles within the Nubula ecosystem in which the Marco device essentially captures the essential environmental data and the nodes helps us to validate and also protects the data that is collected by the Marcos.
text the data that is being that is collected by the marcos okay and and
what what would a user expect after purchasing a Marco and setting it up
what what would what would that user then expect to I'm assuming you're
getting you're getting something in return for providing that? Yes, yes, sir.
So as of now, if you have deployed a Marco device,
essentially you'll be receiving some mining points.
Again, in the future, it can be...
Essentially, you can convert it into Nubula tokens in the future.
investor lead investors are we chain and also iotex so we do have like uh ecosystem campaigns uh with
them so essentially uh what we have mentioned uh the dashboard mining and also the deal mining campaigns going on with IOTX.
So essentially, by deploying a Marco,
essentially you'll be able to get three tokens at the same time.
Okay, and are you able to purchase a node without purchasing a Marco?
able to purchase a node without purchasing a market?
Yes, yes, sir. Yes, you can.
Yes, yes, sir. Yes, you can.
Okay, and what is the expected rewards
or whatever you want to call it
for operating a node or purchasing a node?
Well, I do not have the conversion rate right here,
but I can tell you about the daily emissions,
if that helps.
Yeah, absolutely.
In terms of the daily emissions, for that, it depends on the purchase stage,
because we wanted to incentivize early users as well.
So if you bought a cloud node prior to our TGE,
the daily mining output per node is 80snewb,
which is another point system that Nubila has implemented.
But if you bought it after the TGE, it's 67 daily mining output.
So for the rainy node, it's 200.
And after TGE, it's 166.
And for the sunny node, it's 998.
And after TGE, it's 832.
I can actually send you the link to our Gitbook
after this as well.
That'll be great. Thank you.
Thank you, sir.
Thanks for that, guys.
Breaking Balls will have you in two secs,
but first, Zuck, it's nice to have you up here, mate.
Sorry to have you in holding so long we'll
get you in a sec all right we'll get you in a sec breaking balls fire away me hey darren hey hey man
sorry for bugging you so much on the discord uh i got real ptsd from you know plenty of other dps
coming on so yeah I apologize in advance.
I did receive my Marco today.
I bought it in fiat.
So I'm not applicable for the reward,
but I'm not going to cry about it.
Two questions for you.
You know one of them,
so I'll save that for last.
The second one is,
I understand there's two, three different ways that you can mine like multiple, you know, tokens,
the newbie tokens not necessarily ready yet. Um, if let's just say, I don't care about the newbie
token, I don't care about the IO text token, I just, I just want to deal with better. This is what I'm here for. When the dashboard comes on, what is the, what's the prop?
Is it as simple as, I know we talked about this in another space, that we have to go grab an NFT
somewhere or it'll be delivered to our V world wallet. And then we would stake that wallet. And
then is it as simple as we'll be, you know, receiving better weekly or, you know, or is it as simple as we'll be receiving better weekly?
Or is it a thing where I know there's a backlog of points right now
because you guys haven't really been rewarding with other tokens yet.
Does it work that way where we're going to have to convert these points into better?
Or is it just straightforward?
Can we just pick? I just want to mine for better.
And then that's, you know, that's all we're dealing with here.
Oh yeah. Yeah.
You can, you can definitely select like, uh, the tokens that you want to mine.
Right.
Uh, so even as of now, like, uh, some of, some of the users, some of our users,
uh, the market owners, they, they have not participated in the IO text, um,
dual mining
campaign as well so we act if you look at the Nubula dashboard right
Nubula network dashboard if you click on earn there's actually two two tabs one
IOTX the other one better so if so for the whole process is for the whole process,
because once the mining dashboard is done,
the dev team will send you the device NFT to your wallet.
So you just have to click on participate
and you'll be rewarded in a daily slash weekly basis.
Great. And then that leads me to my next question.
So you guys have been on the DAO for three to four weeks now.
So you said,
are we looking for next week as far as the dashboard goes?
How's everything going as far as that becoming live and ready to...
Yeah, and I do apologize for the delay because during the setup we did notice some bugs, so the team is trying to fix it and we're aiming it before the 30th of April, just because on the 1st of May is Labor Day and some of the team members are in the Asia region, in which that will take a long time.
So we wanted this to be deployed by the 30th.
So that's that.
And we do understand that we've been in the DAO for a very long time.
So in terms of the past better tokens that we've collected, we've prepared an article as well.
Because as mentioned before, we wanted to make sure, again, we're building in the open.
like we're building in the open,
wanted to make sure that the community understand
how we're distributing our better allocation
in transparency and also in PAC as well.
So as of now, the total better that was allocated to Nubula,
it's 10,500 and 400.
There's no point hiding it
because it is transparent
within VBetterDial, right?
So as of now,
we have provided 16,000
to the people who have connected
their social, their Twitter,
and also their wallet
onto the Nubila dashboard.
And for the Galaxy campaign,
we'll be providing 8,040 better tokens
to the users as well,
which leaves us approximately 80,000-ish tokens to be distributed.
So I've been talking to the team and the team,
so for the team, they're saying that 30% will be allocated for Nubilus operation.
And of course, we can definitely use that to use it on marketing campaigns as well.
For example, for voting, etc.
Giving back to the community.
But we wanted to make things clear and also have this on record.
And in black and white as well.
So that people can understand that we are trying to do our best in terms of transparency.
And of course, we wanted to use this as a medium as well to communicate with the We Better DAO ecosystem
in which that, because we don't just want to make any decisions just based on our perspective, want to hear, want to get a feedback from you guys. And from that, we can try to, you know, revise it or even improve on it.
So, yeah, hopefully once we release the article by tomorrow, you guys can understand in terms of the better tokens that was allocated to the team,
how we're planning to use it and why do we make such plans as well.
Okay, thank you.
Yeah, and just putting this out there, you guys are a different model than most.
A lot of DApps are doing 70-30 as far as the split goes,
and they don't have a model to purchase,
and they also aren't selling data to companies.
I think on the space that we had with Poly,
maybe things have changed,
but I remember you saying something as much as even 90%
would be going back to the community,
and maybe that's changed, and that's okay,
but I just wanted to make sure that that point was made here.
You guys do have a different model in that sense.
So for, as mentioned, like 70% is the conservative number that we're going with. As mentioned before, we want this to be an opportunity to communicate with the vBeradals ecosystem as well.
For example, thank you for pointing out the 90% because we were told that 70% was the norm.
But of course, we do have plans to raise it up, to be honest.
We do have plans to raise it up, to be honest.
And also, I do notice that some members have pointed out some confusions as well,
especially with the rebate.
So the rebate is not tied to the weekly distribution,
just to put on record as well.
So yeah, as mentioned, the 70% is changeable.
The team is always open for feedback.
And yeah, hopefully that answers your question.
Yep, thank you.
And then the last thing I have for you,
same thing as Dylan goes,
I know you were a participant on Linapoli Spaces. I've been talking to some of your mods over on Discord, and some of them are pretty cool. relationship as well is that we want to onboard people into VWorld and get real users on here as well.
Maybe we can talk to Pauly or
I could talk to one of your
ambassadors over there
and we can get them on and maybe
some of the newbies to come on a space
and try to talk to them about VBetter.
Yep, of course.
We would like to have you
guys on our Discord as well because
as you may have seen on our Discord, most of them are actually Web2 people, weather enthusiasts. So it would be great to have some WeChain representative or the committed community members as well,
such as yourself, to educate them on WeChain
and also the mission that we have.
Awesome, thank you for that, guys.
Right, Zuck, you've been waiting a long time, mate.
Thank you for your patience. What have you got for us?
Hi, guys. My name is Mark, and I'm the Mark Dylan was referring to. I'm lucky enough
to have been brought onto this project after they won the hackathon and got accepted into
the grant program. And yeah, I just wanted to more specifically answer in layman's terms,
some of the questions that were brought up. Dylan has a tremendous vision for this project.
Where he sees it going is really beyond me. And I like to think I have good vision but he knows where it's
going and I'm just grateful to be a part of it so not to take up much time but
to answer your questions right now we're sending the scan to Google and I to scan
that's part of our prototyping what we'll do is we'll have our standalone server set up with a model on board that's
good enough to be able to pull the information out of a scan.
And mostly we're just looking for matching the hash of the user's address on our site
with the hash of the user address on the bill itself. And then that's it.
We're keeping the bill. We're not keeping the image. We're pulling out information as far as
what their monthly usage is because the way we pay out BetterDAO or Better is that there's a
leaderboard. And the leaderboard is made up of two things.
Number one is scanning a bill to see your price has gone down or your usage has gone down
compared to the next month. And due to that nature alone, it's a drive to zero. So we can't
really get scammed. We can't really get gamed, right? So if you put a bill up today and you're like, it's 300 and tomorrow it's 150, the month after you have to go to 75.
And it's easy to have flags in place for things that just don't make sense, right?
So that's one way that the leaderboard is developed.
And the other way it's developed, which I think you guys love, is that we have daily tips on only one of them has to do with not showering.
And it actually it says shorter shower. It doesn't say don't shower. We don't we didn't actually put in the heathen version yet.
But so the daily tips means every day you go on, you click on that you've read a tip pertaining to water, gas, or electric.
And that means in a month you can get 90 points.
And those 90 points mixed with the points generated from the percentage of your reduction in utility usage equals the leaderboard.
And then the leaderboard gets paid out.
Right now we're doing 50% because what we want to do is save another 25% for funding
games and memes and rewards and like that.
So 50% of whatever we have available to us inside of the BetterDAO allocation goes out to the leaderboard divided exactly amongst them based upon the
points that they have. So I think that cool yeah did I
can I clear anything else up for you
or any random questions
no but I
think start pushing guys
ask people if they want to test there's plenty of people
in the community that want to test this stuff
and as myself
have plenty of opinions so
cool well it's live
it works app.powerup.vet.
We just finished the next milestone for the next grant.
So from here on out,
we're pretty much just going towards
gaining traction in users.
So it'd be great if anybody,
if any nodes are on here,
we need, I think, 88 more votes.
So there's a link at the top of there to endorse.
And, yeah, happy to get some feedback.
It's still very much a prototype, but it works.
And the faster we get endorsements, the faster real money comes in to pay out so i hope we get that
quickly awesome guys i think that's that was a good good breakdown in the layman terms as you
said so if anybody has any other questions feel free to come up to the stage now and ask them but before that i want to give a quick um
quick reminder guys uh please follow all the socials all of the speakers here uh power up
is in the listeners as well the account is there uh please support with follows and yeah stay updated with what they have in mind so yeah that's that's a
reminder but yeah I guess there isn't any other questions so Iman would you like to get the mic
yeah sure so I'll jump in super quick because we mentioned at the start, we've released the first edition of our developer course.
I'm just going to pin it here on the space,
and it should come up in a second.
Otherwise, you can go to academy.vechain.org.
And again, any feedback, any thoughts,
and of course, the key goal is to make the onboarding
into V-chain as easy as possible.
So, yeah, this is also what we're going to be using at the workshops that we're going
to be conducting in different universities.
We've got several universities across the UK, also in Italy, Croatia. We're going Europe wide.
So there we go.
The tweet is up there.
And yeah, of course, join the V-Chain Builders Telegram
because then that way we can receive your questions.
We can help out to anybody that wants
to go through the course.
And yeah, I think that's the update.
So you've got the link up there.
And of course, if you've got questions, jump in.
I do think we've got someone else that is requesting,
no, they dropped.
So yeah, we can go around for some final thoughts
if there's no other questions.
Unless Rhys, if you've got anything else?
The Crypto Bull has just joined us.
Mate, do you want to introduce yourself and ask any questions you have?
Yeah, Jim everyone, good to be here. This is Crypto Bull from Nigeria.
I just want to say a big shout out to our EBU speakers and the future and all everybody
here present and
I also want to thank Nubila for
because I received
my Nubila
Marco Weather System arrived
some days ago so I'm about
to set it up
I want to appreciate you all for all you
guys are doing I'm so super excited
thank you for having me thank you so much
great to have you up mate thank you nice little positivity finish up on that was lovely
yep thank you cryptable for coming as well um so yeah guys as you know so the dev course is live please a look. And for those builders out there listening to us,
we just launched an introduction campaign in our Telegram.
Feel free to go there and introduce yourself
and see if you need any brainstorming for your dev
or what you're building.
There's so many people there that can brainstorm ideas with you,
give feedback.
And potentially, I see hers was here as well
um and we hunt so that that's they they connected through there and her is basically the original
creator of the dap funds we hunt who is the. So we also want that to keep going on
and help you guys connect with fellow developers or builders.
So that's also a reminder there.
So yeah, I think we can move on to the closing thoughts process.
So I'll pass the mic to Echo Meal first,
and then we'll go one by one.
Yeah, thank you so much again for this opportunity.
And congratulations to the other app for the amazing job.
And very, very, very congratulations.
And yeah, that's it.
Thank you so much.
Thank you for coming today and, you know, telling us about your Dapp and huge success to you guys.
So, Dylan, would you like to go next?
Sure.
I just want to thank you all so much, Nubilla, especially for your questions and pressing me a little bit more on what's really going on.
It kind of made me think outside of the box, so I could not appreciate you guys more.
I'm sure the entire community is super engaging and, you know, would love to kind of engage more.
But, you know, just a shout out.
If anyone wants to send their memes to PowerUp, please do.
That'd be awesome.
Just give us your PowerUp ideas and
we would be glad to start building a community and getting people to think outside of the box
and how they can make their community better. So really appreciate you all and this is the first
time that I've had the fairness to speak to the entire VeChain community out loud online. So I'm very happy to introduce myself and if anyone wants to
follow me or Zuck or PowerUp or the team and we would love to take this to the moon. So thanks guys,
appreciate you. Thank you, I appreciate you coming here and telling us about your side of the story.
appreciate you coming here and telling us about your side of the story.
Darren, would you like to go for Nibbola?
Yeah, thank you guys so much for the opportunity to provide clarity and also
making an introduction to the Vtrain ecosystem as well. Again, I do see P polly here so a huge shout out to polly for uh being the first uh being the
first um we chain uh ecosystem member that uh that opens that opened their arm to nebula so yeah thank
you guys so much and we're really excited to keep building and also like bring more
And we're really excited to keep building
and also bring more breakthrough to the V-Chain ecosystem
as well.
Thank you, guys.
Thank you, too.
So Iman, Rice, do you guys want to go next?
Yeah, I'll jump in.
So yeah, thank you so much, guys, for coming on to space and sharing about what you guys
are building.
And of course, so with Power Up, you guys are just launching, congrats, because that's
always the scariest point, just putting out a product and see what happens.
So yeah, I love the passion.
Definitely could hire you, Dylan,
as a personal trainer for sure.
Love the energy, so that's great.
And of course, Ecomail as well,
the other smaller app here in the room.
Congrats as well, because getting the product out
is always the scariest part.
And of course, look forward to seeing what you guys
are gonna be doing in the next few weeks.
So I'll make sure to download the app as well.
And I'll be happy to provide any feedback.
And of course, just another quick, of course,
appreciation to Yusuf, so host behind the VeChain Builders
account.
And just another reminder that we've
got the developer course
and the link is pinned on the space
and it's also pinned on the VeChain Builders account.
And I think that's pretty much it.
Rhys, how about you?
What are your final thoughts?
Yeah, just really appreciate you guys taking the time
to come up and have a chat, you know,
and answer some community questions and kind of provide a bit of clarity on everything you're doing.
I've had some other projects reach out about the next space.
Hopefully we'll be able to get Just Tote on and Meet and Mate as well is on the list for the next one.
So I'll try and get it done a bit quicker, actually.
I kind of want to do it.
I don't want to wait a month if we don't have to, because I prefer to do these a lot more regularly,
just so I can have a chance to chat with Breaking Bulls, let's be honest.
That's the real reason behind it.
But, yeah, thank you so much, guys.
Appreciate you all, and we'll catch you up in the next one.
Thanks, everyone.
I'll be your coach, Iman.
No worries.
Bye, everybody.
Thanks, bro. Thank you, everybody. Thanks, bro.
Thank you, guys. Bye-bye.
Bye. Thank you so much.
Bye. Thank you so much.
