Projects
![]()
No projects found
Investors
New
DAO Treasuries
DATs
Lend / Borrow APRs
Chains
Categories
Spaces
Vibe Coding, Prompting, Building w/ AI and more| Grateful Show #436
Recorded: Feb. 5, 2026 Duration: 2:17:42Space Recording
Short Summary
In a dynamic discussion on the future of AI and Vibe Coding, experts emphasize the transformative potential of these technologies, highlighting significant opportunities for growth and monetization in the crypto space. With insights into successful case studies and the evolving job landscape, participants are encouraged to embrace innovation and adapt to emerging trends.
Full Transcription
The End Oh Thank you. Oh Oh Oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, yo gmgm everybody i have a feeling that this is gonna be one of the most important spaces of
2026 trust me because ai vibe coding and everything that's happening in the space this
is so so important to know to learn to do to, can't wait. We still have two more minutes of intro.
I know some spaces are just wrapping up,
so more people will join us soon.
Retweet a space.
Drop a GM in the comments.
We have two retweets.
More people here, so please retweet a space
so more people can see it
and come here to learn more about Vibe Coding
and AI and everything
because Klos has been killing it, guys.
Has been killing it.
And I also will pin a badge and I will share the code with you soon.
The badge is incredible.
The beautiful art by Jubrell.
But guys, still two more minutes of intro.
Let's fucking go.
I know what we're all about.
It's like this, y'all.
This is 10% luck, 20% skill, 15% concentrated power of will,
5% pleasure pleasure 50% pain
And 100% reason to remember the name
He doesn't need his name up in lights He just wants to be heard
Whether it's the beat of the mic He feels so unlike everybody else alone
In spite of the fact that some people still think that they know him
But fuck him, he knows the code It's not about the salary
It's all about reality.
Making some noise.
Making a story.
Making sure his click stays up.
That means when he puts it down, top's taking it up.
Let's go.
What the hell is he anyway?
He never really talks much.
Never concerned with status, but still even he's starstruck.
Humble through opportunities, given despite the fact.
That many misjudge him because he makes a living from writing rags.
Put it together himself. Now the picture connects. Never asking for someone's help or to get some respect. He's given despite the fact that many misjudge him because he makes a living from writing rags.
Put it together himself, now the picture connects.
Never ask it for someone's help or to give some respect.
He's only focused on what he wrote.
His will is beyond reach.
And now it all unfolds, the skill of an artiste.
This is 20% skill, 80% fear.
Be 100% clear, cause Ryu is ill.
He would have thought he'd be the one to set the west in flames.
And I heard him wreck it with the crystal method, name of the game. Came back, dropped, beg of death. Took him to church. Yo, I see some emojis down there. Can you hear me guys or am I rugging?
Chespy? Anyone here?
All good? All good? Let's go everybody, this is Grateful Show 436, let's go!
Let's go!
GMGM, everybody!
I hope you are having a great Tuesday,
or at least you surviving, if you're checking the charts.
But I think with AI and Vibe Coding
and everything that's going on in the space,
this is a huge, huge opportunity
to actually learn new stuff,
actually create a new revenue stream
and help businesses because we hosted Benjamin a week ago and we talked about how he actually
made 40k in six months by helping businesses. And I believe this is absolute revolution.
So happy to host Space Abus this topic today. And if you are entering bear market, this is really the best and biggest opportunity
in my opinion that you can actually have.
So pay attention, share the space.
I will share the code for you so you can claim the badge,
but retweet the space.
If you have any questions, drop them into the comments.
And yeah, we're gonna start.
I see also Chespi here but uh i have uh
i have a short list here so plus debugging lovable web app prototypes vibe code mobile apps
gemini 3 pro front end slash ui mid journey viral image styles nano banana pro grok image gen
topaz bloom image upscaling veo 3.1 cling groling, Grok, VideoGen, Topaz, Astra.
Guys, this is just like 1% of the tools that Klaus is using.
So we got to go through them.
We got to go through also how to start vibe coding, prompting, which I'm doing absolutely wrong.
After I read the article, I'm doing a terrible job with prompting,
so we're going to get better into it.
And yeah, let's get into it.
If you also want to join us here on stage, guys,
just request I bring you here.
Ches P, how are you doing today?
Yo, GMG, I'm grateful.
How are you doing, man?
Yo, by coding, you know, AI, machine learning,
whatever you want to call it,
it's a fucking great opportunity, you know you said, even if the market is green or red, it's always good to learn.
And man, I'm here.
I'm all about it now.
That's great, Chespi.
Maybe we're starting bear market right now.
And bear market is always quieter, right?
You have more time to learn, there's less noise.
And really, if you see how quickly AI is developing, for me, it's 100%.
Let me get this straight.
Let me rephrase, and I don't want to quote you, but literally, it's less extractors, right?
Less people trying to sell you shit, right?
And this is where real people that is building and is doing something in the fucking space is busy.
And I'm fucking busy.
And we are fucking busy.
That's why we're here every fucking day.
Learning, building, or just creating your fucking community.
That's what we do.
100%. 100%. We've been through this before. Six, I will get back to you soon.
Those mutants, man. Those mutants are wild. How are you doing, Six?
One love, bro. One love.
Love it. Love it. If you have any questions, go ahead, man.
I just wanted to add one more thing that we've been through the bear market before, right?
And as Chespi said, extractors and everyone, they usually leave during the bear markets
and you really have time to make better connections with other builders, do dope stuff.
And with AI, the difference is that
you don't need such a huge team and i know klaus he he actually started or he's a he's a founder of
psychedelics anonymous back in 2021 right since 2021 they've been through like through a lot as
all the nft collections but back in the day to create
a project man you needed a lot of a lot of people it was much harder than these days so so i believe
if you really set up uh this ai think right you as a solopreneur or with few of your friends you
can create incredible things so it's really exciting time I have a few tweets to go through.
Balaji, I have never been more bullish on crypto because the rules-based order is collapsing
and the code-based order is rising.
Absolutely love it.
I think AI and crypto, that's a winning combo.
I don't mean a few people actually commented on my post
that AI bots in comments in crypto tweets are terrible. I'm not talking about
that. I think AI agents with crypto wallets, it's absolutely game changer. And we have really bright
future. I believe in that. You know, look at other side and glyph wallet. Basically, you don't even
know that you're using crypto there. And one more thing that I want to read here. And then we say
hi to Klaus and start digging into
Vibe Coding and what it is about.
To make money, create value.
To create value, help others.
To help others solve problems.
To solve problems, build apps.
To build apps, master systems.
To master system, learn prompts.
To learn prompts, talk machine.
Damn, and that's my biggest mistake.
I'm always like, hey, chat GPT, UMFR, help me with this and that, man.
Oh, I'm so terrible after I read that article and we got to get into it.
Klaus, welcome here. I really hope I'm pronouncing your name correctly or if it's a German, like, Klaus pronunciation.
I'll do push-ups. I'll do push-ups. How you doing today? Welcome here.
Thanks for having me, man. I'm grateful to be here.
Funny enough, you know, fitting the part of the name, but I appreciate you having me and I'm looking forward to sharing what I know about AI, man. And to your point, yeah, that tweet is a meaningful one. It's definitely worth it to learn to talk machine. People think prompting will become obsolete. I care to differ very much.
Also congrats, I just saw that you were monetized, right? You wrote incredible articles. Guys,
if you click on Klaus and his profile, definitely give him follow and go to articles. Don't just
bookmark them, you MFRs, because I know you bookmark them and you never read them, right?
That's what all of us do.
Bookmark them and
read them. Or,
maybe there's a solution how to
read them and send them to
AI, to GPT, or
Claude, or anything like that, and actually
use them for some actionable steps.
Who knows? We're going to learn more about it
for sure.
Man, really excited to see you here, man,
because as I mentioned, you are OG.
I don't know when you enter crypto,
but I remember you in 2021.
And it's so great to see people still going,
still building, still pushing,
still trying to new ways how to make it, right?
And I really believe that AI and everything that we dreamt back in 2021, that will make it possible.
Whether it's metaverse, whether it's crypto, whether it's building your own company,
whether it's helping others, I believe AI will play an incredible role.
And if you don't adapt, you will not be around.
That's what I think about it.
So really bullish to have you here.
And maybe I would ask a quick question.
How have you been since 21, since you released the collection?
I don't know if you can answer it.
You're fine.
And I don't know if you knew this but i actually uh i didn't
create the collection in 2021 i was definitely a part of the initial community around it
and one of the og kind of holders but i ended up buying the project two years ago from the
previous team uh so that that is actually my trajectory but But to give you guys a little bit more context, I started off as just a kind of content creator in the space that was just having fun.
blown away by lots of things. Of course, by many reasons, the same way that a lot of people came in,
saw the initial big wave of people and money and thought, oh, okay, I definitely need to be in the
next innovative wave. Prior to this, I worked in mobile marketing because I saw that as the next
wave of the internet. And then I saw crypto as the next wave after mobile.
And so I went heavy and deep into it in the last few years.
I've worked for a few different brands,
from DeFi to meme coins to most recently OpenSea.
And now I kind of just am solely focused on my AI agency
as well as building out apps for kind of the PA ecosystem.
But, you know, to your point, I've had to reinvent myself a ton.
You know, four years ago, I was a content creator, you know, making threads, making recaps of spaces and doing stats on NFTs.
NFTs. And then over time, I've had to reinvent myself plenty from a podcast or educational
spaces host to then ending up consulting for Psychedelics Anonymous and then ending up buying
it. And then more recently, doing consulting work or marketing or branding work for certain brands.
branding work for certain brands. But to your point, man, I think to really survive in, you know,
this industry, you have to be willing to pivot and reinvent yourself all the time. And the ones
that are not, that's, those are the ones that burn out and end up quitting. Because I'll be
honest, this space is not easy. Even the most successful founders, they get talked up by the timeline all the time,
and you guys know who those are.
They struggle plenty.
I've talked with them.
I've seen it.
You might not always see it firsthand,
but this is a brutal space.
And you have to be willing,
let's say hypothetically you're in L2,
and then you have something like Vitalik's meme the other day,
it's brutal to build here, man. You have to be willing to just completely start from scratch
at any point if things don't go your way. And if you're not willing to do that, you will
absolutely fail. So that would be my biggest, I think, advice separate from just prompting or vibe coding, is just be willing to reinvent yourself as a founder or a creator and kind of go through the resilient struggle of getting slapped on your face or falling down many times and having to just be like, oh, I got to change.
Similarly to how I only used to make NFT or crypto content.
Then I added to it and started doing psychedelic and mental health content.
Then I started doing AI content and AI content recently has blown up.
So without that willingness to change or accept what you don't know and try new things,
you're not going to succeed.
I think this is major alpha, man.
I think you drop it quite early in the space.
This is going to be 100% quote and snippet, guys.
You need to keep trying new things.
And I've been here since late 2020.
I got into NFTs 2017, but then I forgot about him
and got back with NBA Top Shot.
But you really need to keep trying new stuff and keep going and keep
figuring things out, right? We saw it with starting spaces. There were threats, creating content around
like crypto, creating content around AI. Now we have metaverse, other side, streaming, and so on.
You need to keep learning because the space and, and the world is evolving so quickly.
It's absolutely insane, right? Like back in the day, you know, there are not that many changes
within a decade, but now everything's changing within weeks. So it's absolutely crazy. And I
believe AI will play a major role in everything in your life. And if you want to, if you want to
like stay in touch,
keep learning, keep building on a pace
that your competition is doing,
you need to be using that.
So absolutely love what you said.
I've been through that also.
Always keep trying new things.
And that's why I'm getting into the vibe coding
and everything like prompting
because I have a feeling that
it's going to be really important for all of us here. It's going to be important and who's not
going to learn will be left behind. So that's why I'm so happy that you're here and you will share
what you learn, how we can get better and everything, you know, because it's it's wild and big shout out to you because
i've checked your articles you know one of them uh had like 800k views almost like uh 795k views
that's insane another one 200 000 views that's incredible that's amazing so big shout out to you
and uh i also bring gets be here and let's get into it.
Let's get it.
When did you decide actually to get deeper into Vibe Coding and AI?
What was the moment, man?
Oh, man, that's a tough one.
Realistically, I think I got into generative AI almost two, three years ago now.
I think I probably still have my original mid-journey tweets,
and man, they look like absolute shit, if I'm being honest.
And then vibe coding, probably
close to maybe seven, eight months
to a year ago. The thing is, though, tech
didn't really get to a point until recently
where I would say probably
generative AI around images or videos
was at the point around six months ago, seven months ago,
where you could do some pretty incredible things.
Now it's gotten even more dangerous, where if you know what you're doing,
man, you can really be a creative weapon.
But vibe coding, in my opinion, not until the last two, three months
did it really start to get to a point where non-technical people can really succeed if you educate yourself right.
And so my approach has been, I feel a lot of people approach prompting and AI as just like, you know, fuck around and find out.
And I don't think that's the right approach.
It can definitely teach you things and you can definitely get results. But if you don't actually understand
how the systems were built, like what they're trained on, how to like really like behavior
engineer them to your will, like you're not going to have success. Like when someone says make a
website on a prompt versus someone that puts in a really like intricate prompt,
I'm pretty sure the guy that makes an intricate prompt
is probably going to do better.
That said, people will confuse this with,
oh, some tools, you know,
I can write a simple sentence and it makes something awesome.
That's because they've abstracted away that complex part to their side and the user does not have to do it. It does not mean that process
isn't happening. And so those companies are becoming masters at learning how to prom,
learning how to JSON, learning how to do the proper workflows while the normal people become
more and more inclined to have it easier and easier.
And there's nothing wrong with that inherently,
but think about it from a sense of if you continuously become
really, really dependent on that, that is not good over time.
You're going to become the person that is using every AI tool
that ends up going broke or that doesn't have a job
while the people that are building AI tools or that are building things themselves are winning the next year or two.
And when people say, you know, you only have one to three years,
some people may think that's fear-mongering. I really don't think it is.
If you look at the cost of software going to zero, there's only a few things left.
There's distribution, there's's speed and there's taste
and if you're not focused on those three you will fail but to go back to you know how i approached
it you know the same way that i wanted to learn how to prompt i researched you know how did collide
you know build models like what's the best way to talk to them. Once you start learning, you know, different ways of how to construct a prompt,
how to like properly align your output or, you know, give it the right responsibilities or
context, you'll have so many better results. Like you won't have, you know, you chatting with a
window, you asking it to do something and then doing the exact opposite thing you want.
And so I think that's the first part is just understanding how to talk to machines.
And then the second part is being willing to adapt and understand that you probably don't know enough about them.
Realistically, these models change constantly.
There's different ones coming out, brand new ones every day.
And without experimenting with them, you will realistically fall behind.
That doesn't mean you can't catch up.
I don't want to say like,
you'll never be able to catch up.
That's bullshit.
It becomes harder though
because I'm in this space every day studying AI
and there's still new stuff coming out
every single day where I feel behind on.
And if I'm in it every day,
imagine how the normal person feels
that is not doing anything.
Trust me, they feel overwhelmed and they will fall behind. That's not fear mongering, it's just
reality. And then the second part of, I would say, just contextual, like the way to approach learning
for, you know, taking it past prompting. And you mentioned Grateful, that article I wrote.
I would definitely recommend reading it
if you want to learn how to just write a prompt for anything
because that's super important, though,
as well as just understanding how to talk to different LLM chats.
But the next part for vibe coding is really, you know,
you'll see a lot of people say they've built cool stuff.
And so maybe people have, and that's awesome. The thing is, the reason a lot of people say they've built cool stuff and so maybe people have and that's awesome.
The thing is the reason a lot of people don't succeed with VibeCoding is because they believe
it or not actually don't have the education of an engineer and if you take a fraction of the time
to learn some of the stuff an actual engineer knows you'll be able to talk to AI and VibeCode
way better like actually understanding the architecture of a repository
and what goes into certain files, how your app should flow,
where APIs should go, where things should be secure
and when things can be a little bit more loose,
understanding design and token variables
and naming conventions.
You don't need to know these things all over time
because as I said, they will get abstracted away.
But if you do not learn them,
you'll become more dependent on this technology
and you'll become more and more useless.
And I'm not saying that, you know,
you can't become more useful in something else.
But realistically, if you want to be, let's say,
competing with someone that's been a website front-end engineer for the last five years,
and you've just been spending a few months with AI, that's going to seem like a huge hurdle and a
challenge. But if you actually learn all the things they were taught, which you can learn at a fraction
of the time now with AI, you will be able to catch up to them.
That's just a fact.
Learn the colors, learn design,
learn anything you need to in order to think like an engineer,
and then you will be able to vibe code a thousand times better.
That's not some hype fact. That's just the truth.
If you actually know how to approach coding, you will code better
versus just coming up with an idea and just hoping AI figures it out.
That's just, that's not the way to approach it.
The next thing is just having a, I guess, scientific approach to it.
And so whenever I try and do anything with AI, I try and break it down into steps.
Like realistically, what are the steps that need to be accomplished in order to achieve the goal? And realistically, what are the right steps? So when it comes to like coding, for example,
my first step is always interrogation. And, you know, some people in the engineering world will
call it like specs, you know, specs before engineering. All I'm doing is having AI interrogate my idea at length until it really has
no bad assumptions. And there's plenty of ways you can do that properly. You can read some of
the resources that I have there as well that I've posted. But without fully scoping your idea,
it will make assumptions because that's how it's programmed and that's what it's going to default to. If you don't answer context, it's going to fill in context.
And so understanding that is super, super helpful.
The next part after interrogation is really planning.
And a lot of people skip one of these steps or all of them
and just jump straight into building.
And you might have some success. Some people are smart enough to figure it out or work their way backwards after,
but why make it harder on yourself? So after interrogation, you want to go into planning mode
and that's your documentation. That's when you make markdown docs. That's when you build the
directions for the AI to follow. Otherwise it will hallucinate shit. It will make steps up.
It will not know which direction to go, which flow to make.
Super important.
So interrogation, documentation.
After that, I like to approach it from an operating system spec,
which is basically build out how these things are going to flow together.
From there, I approach it from a building agent. So, you know, given all this context,
now that you have from the first two, three steps, now we're going to build and stick to the plan.
And, you know, the documentation that it has everything listed out. So it actually follows
suit, doesn't start looping
doesn't start doing random tasks it wasn't assigned doesn't continue you know building
how new features i didn't ask for it's six to the plan after it builds that's where you can get into
debugging that's the way i like to approach it and the final way that i personally like to do vibe coding is a lot of people will try to make the design
pretty first. And if they do not have coding knowledge or vibe coding knowledge, what they'll
end up doing is they'll actually inadvertently end up hard coding colors, hard coding fonts,
hard coding things into their app on different pages or screens that they did not
know they were doing. And then down the line, they'll be like, why the heck are all these
things inconsistent? And realistically, they spent a few minutes just understanding like
design in apps or web and actually understanding tokens, they would realize, oh fuck, I'm hard
coding these things as variables rather than using a system variable for design that can be pulled
and interlaced in other places that is consistent.
And that's why you have people that have unresponsive websites, that have colors all over the place,
they have white on white, they have black on black, and things aren't reading correctly.
white they have black on black and and things aren't reading correctly if you understand those
elements of what actually like builds a website so think of it like legos and building blocks in
order to build something cool legos you need the full pieces in the set understand those you can
build way better things otherwise someone will be building a three stack lego and the person next to
will be building a 270 stack lego and you'll be like how the-stack Lego, and the person next to him will be building a 270-stack Lego.
And he'll be like, how the fuck did they do that?
Oh, they learned.
Believe it or not, actually spending a little time to learn will help you.
And after really debugging and then getting into design, I just like to polish up things last because too many people get caught up trying to make things pretty.
to polish up things last because too many people get caught up trying to make things pretty.
And me, myself, a designer, I even get caught in that same trajectory of like, oh shit,
I want to make this look prettier before I continue on. That's the wrong way to do things.
Make it work first, make it flawless, then make it pretty. Don't make it pretty and not work.
That is not an app. That does nothing for you. So make sure to do that.
One other tip I like to do is I like to design on mobile first. This is a constraint I add to
myself. This is not necessarily what you need to be doing or the best workflow. But I find as a
designer or a builder, if you build on mobile, you think about responsive behavior,
you think about design, you think about minimalism and simplicity and the user experience,
and you can also scale up much easier to those different sizes, whereas most people,
they build a web app on desktop and then scale down.
And trust me, a whole lot of AI websites look like garbage, if I'm being honest with you.
So that's my tip. And then in terms of tools, Grateful, there's quite a list. I don't know
if we want to go through those maybe question by question or what's the best approach you want to
do there. 100%, we can go question by question, but I already wrote down, I'm doing it absolutely
wrong right now because I have a pen, I'm doing it absolutely wrong right
now because I have a pen and I'm writing my questions on paper right now, right? There should
be probably AI scanning what you're saying and helping me with that. But I have a few questions
here about resources, how to learn, because you said that if you learn how to be an engineer,
it will help you to create better apps and understand more what's behind the scenes, right?
And one more thing is about prompting
that I would love to ask.
So maybe we can start with learning one
because it seems overwhelming.
Even for me, you can Google whatever you want
about Vibe Coding and you will find millions of sites
and millions of YouTube videos and everything.
So how would you start as a beginner or let's say intermediate Vibe coder?
Like what do you think is the best approach to start learning and getting better?
and getting better?
Okay, great question.
Okay, great question.
The first thing to definitely
absolutely not do is
follow a bunch of AI
people and then just copy
whatever tools they're using and pay
for them all as a certified way to
go broke. That's me bro!
at times too, don't even worry.
I will say this though,
you know, there's a lot of people covering the AI space, At times too, don't even worry. I will say this though.
There's a lot of people covering the AI space, a lot of awesome educators.
I think some inherently will be biased
because they are maybe paid via partnership deals
or content deals.
So be weary of potential favorites
or people overhyping.
I've definitely seen that with some AI tools.
And then the other thing is, I think people, and this is something I've seen just in the last week
or two that people would like will come at me with, they'll be like, oh, this workflow doesn't
work for me. No shit, man. It's my workflow. I'm sharing it because it works for me. It might work
for you. And I think people's biggest problem, as you mentioned, is they bookmark prompts and they think, oh, like this went viral or oh, like this is cool.
Like this will perfectly work for me. That is not always the case.
And a lot of times I would say the majority of it is absolutely not the case.
The best prompts are remixed to your contextual content, you know, your personal situation.
Just because a prompt is awesome,
it could probably get better by you giving it context,
by you remixing it to your own use case.
And I think that's a super valuable kind of point
that I made in my like how to prompt anything article
is realistically copying prompts
and building out a prompt library is useless.
Learn how to prompt, learn how to remix prompts.
Then if models change or things differ, you can always function and still be skilled.
If you become reliant on a library that goes out of date when models become defunct,
what have you taught yourself?
have you taught yourself literally absolutely nothing all you did is just built a fucking
Literally absolutely nothing.
All you did is just built a fucking database.
database so i i think it's super important to understand uh like you said and it's not even just
be an engineer because i i'm not advocating you spend you know hours on end learning every single
concept engineers know i'm saying think like an engineer. So if you understand their core concepts,
if you understand their vocabulary, if you understand the general idea of what they were
doing, you will do much better than someone that is just vibe coding for a fucking font.
That's just factual. So learn those things and you will do much better. In terms of the best
resources are how to get started. To be honest with you, don't use a bunch of tools.
You probably need maybe two or three. And you also need to experiment and figure out what works for
you. What works for someone else will not always work for you. And just because someone has success
with a really great tool does not mean that that tool ultimately is going to be the most valuable
in your workflow. It might be more valuable in someone else's workflow.
And so I would experiment and try them.
Majority of AI tools nowadays have free trials.
Go try them.
Like literally just try them.
And I would say even before you do that,
go watch some YouTube videos,
go find some content on X that is viral or educating
and see if you can follow along.
Because the issue is majority people will bookmark a prompt, bookmark an article, bookmark a video.
But will they actually sit down and do it alongside that video with it and learn?
No, they won't.
And if you do that, you will be miles ahead of other people.
So I would say just sit down and learn.
Don't have any attachment to
any tool. Don't let anyone's bias sway you. Figure out what works for you. And then from there,
iterate. Be willing to change tools, man. A year ago, I was one of the best image generators via
ChatGBT. I now fucking hate ChatGBT. I only use nano banana pro uh i use other models too but like
that's just my favorite but had i not had the willingness to adapt and become better and try
new things i would still be stuck using chat gbt while i've been you know potentially lapped by
other creators and so the willingness to really get down and gritty with it or you know be willing
to drop what you think you know
and just learn something completely new
is resilience and you need to adopt that.
And then I would say with that,
honestly, just failing.
I know it's cliche, but just go have fun
and figure out what you don't know.
Like to go into a VibeCode platform and go try and do
things. Struggle and then
research and learn about what you struggled
with and then master
that so then when you get back to it, you have
that issue much less and less.
to be honest, man, it's a lot to learn by doing.
People will all say
or preach, oh, this is the right
approach. That's bullshit.
Ultimately, everyone has their own approach that works for them.
You got to find what works for you.
But from a sense of just learning, there's so many great resources.
I shared 20 accounts initially that blew up last week,
and then I made a list of, I think the list is around 300.
300. Let me see if I can find the tweet. I can pin the list for you guys.
Let me see if I can find the tweet, I can pin the list for you guys.
Yeah, you also mentioned many great, great points here. I've been following a few YouTube videos,
and I'm trying to build some AI agents. I just started today, so let's see if I will be able to
finish it by tomorrow. And basically, you follow it step by step. You figuring out the tools like make.com
and you're just trying stuff if it works. And you learn a lot by that. So I think that's a great
approach. Benjamin also last time mentioned some accounts. So I've been following a few of them and
just follow what they are doing and experimenting with that. I don't know if you were able to pin it up but guys i will quickly refresh the room
we have a code for the for the batch the code is keep going i see honeybee in the audience so
honeybee if you want to hop in and spell it for us but the code is keep going so you go to op.xyz
slash uh claim and the code is keep going uh let me quickly also welcome makaveli and gets be here
uh gets me how you doing today yo gmgm doing great loving this space man i love that you've
picked up vibe coding since last phase and yeah you've been playing around and creating your
first game and um good man i'm i've been vibe coding like crazy as well finally got the app
i've been working on to work uh at least the core of it and um and yeah man you know i'm always
learning uh like kios was saying it's uh it's an evolving thing that you gotta be up uh and
updated every day um but i kind of have my stack already laid out and what I like to use and which
ones I prioritize for which tasks and how to prompt, which is the most important thing I think
he was saying, right? It's like a simple human language prompt is not going to get you that far.
Sooner or later, it will break and it will start doing the steps at once and shit like that,
right? So having proper markups, assisting yourself with
another AI to create prompts is good. But if you can learn how to do prompts yourself, at least in
terms of, you know, like the order of how to ask for context for execution, for final planning and
stuff like that, is going to be worth a lot of money in the future, especially because I think
it's happening even quicker. You mentioned three years or something like that but i think it's gonna be six months one year
because this is exponential right where um it's just gonna become super important to know off by
heart how to prompt properly in the world of vibe coding so yeah man but all good um you know uh how are you guys and i i love what you said
about the prompts and i have follow-up question for clause 100 but i want to add one more thing
guys try try this exercise whenever you go to your like normie friends group if you have any
if you have any ask them uh what kind of uh tools they they using, if they know what vibe coding is, if they vibe code, because it's crazy.
Wherever I go, I'm like, guys.
Grateful.
Sorry to cut you, but based on the last space we had with Ben, I literally went to a friend's restaurant and I pitched him,
hey, would you like for me to create automation for your restaurant and stuff like that?
Are you guys into any of this?
And they're like, what the fuck are you even talking about?
But I'd love that.
So out of that space, I'm literally now planning,
you know, like a financial system where I might be earning revenue
for selling to their restaurant and their other restaurants
because they got a bunch, right?
So kind of, you know, using that same Ben strategy
that he did for VCs, but for restaurants.
So yeah, man.
Yeah, they're just 10% fee from all the revenues coming to Grateful Show family.
So thank you so much for saying that, Gatsby.
But yeah, man, I asked, like, I would say 20, 25 people since the space with Benjamin.
And I was like, hey, do you know what Vibe Coding is?
I think two of them knew.
The rest had no idea using like chat GPT.
That's all they do.
Asking like, hey, you know, what was the price of Bitcoin a year ago?
Maybe for something like that.
So we're so ahead here.
It's incredible. And that's what I love about crypto space, because this is going to be really important.
And if you ask people it's so
easy to pitch if you ask business people a few of those guys i asked they they have a business i was
like hey man what's a repetitive thing that you doing and that really that you really hate or
that slow your business down and they always deal with invoices uh with inbound of leads, etc.
And you can easily automate it.
And that's where you can make money,
as Benjamin mentioned last time.
So it's absolutely incredible.
So love it, love it.
Sorry, just be quiet.
I tried that, but when I gave them my fee,
they said the writer hired illegal aliens.
And I was like, oh, fuck.
Oh, oh fuck.
Oh my God.
But you are alien, right?
Like, I mean, your project is alien.
So yeah.
Yeah.
I'm an illegal alien in the other side.
I know.
I know.
Machiavelli, welcome here.
How are you doing, bro?
I'm doing phenomenal.
Thank you for having me.
Grateful. Just out here vibe Coda-ingoda i'm just a little vibe coda out here love it that's the way that's the way and i think
some of the like i don't know who mentioned it if it was a rumor uh that like coda ai or something
like a vibe coda i don't know uh coda ai is actually in the dc video dc roth uh who gives
a wonderful explanation about everything other side and what it's going to evolve through into
in its first phase uh you can go catch that on dc's page i believe it's still pinned to the top
of his profile um but yeah coda ai is essentially going to be part of the nexuses or the other side's future.
And what's really great is like if you look at like the MML information that we're going to, I mean, that's essentially Coda AI, right?
And its first attribute, we're adding these MMLs into the space and stuff.
So I'm super excited about that.
And like the tools are only getting better every single day.
Oh, 100%.
It's insane.
And I love the competition
between companies, right? Because
everyone's competing to be number
one and we are benefiting a lot
from that.
Competition breeds innovation, sir.
Competition breeds innovation.
That's the alpha, man. That's the alpha.
Guys,
so the code is, keep going,
get a beautiful art by Jubrel. and also we have 21 retweets 70
people here if you can retweet the space it will help us a lot for algo and more people will see
it so please click that little button in the lower right corner and then you can find the the retweet
button please retweet the space i see it's already happening thank you so much
and also bookmarks are for free so yeah you can bookmark uh you can comment you can send it to
your friends to your families oh yeah i'm kidding uh close we talk a lot about prompting and how
important it is what is the what is the simple way how can I become a better prompter right away?
What should I do? Like if you have someone as retarded as me, I'm like hey
ChGPT, you know, do this, do that, like just plain English, it's not great, I know.
How can I improve my prompting right away on the spot?
Read my article first. Not to show my own...
I bookmarked.
I know, but not to show my own resource,
but definitely read that article.
But if you don't read that article,
I mean, all you'd have to do is understand
or deconstruct how models receive information
and then, you know, reconstruct your logic
around how you talk to it.
But I mean, the basic essence of it is basically understanding like really core tags or, you
know, basically variables within a prompt and how you're assigning them to inputs or
outputs.
So that could be like a role.
It could be rules. it could be constraints,
it could be the output, it could be examples you're giving, it could be how to start the
conversation or how to talk, but all those are things that you can add as context or variables
within your prompt. And so that's probably what I recommend doing first.
And then I would play around and test out your prompts,
make sure they actually function to what you wanted to achieve.
And then once you can do that,
then I would maybe try and create things.
Maybe it's a mini app or a workflow
or just something that's very one-facing.
And make it work for you.
And then maybe play around the vibe coding.
But definitely learn a prompt
before you get crazy into vibe coding.
And then also for vibe coding,
like I said, learn to think like an engineer.
You don't need to learn everything
they know. You just need to understand how they think and the basics of what engineering is,
and you will do miles better than people that don't know anything. And to the point, I think
it was, oh, I think Machiavelli popped out, but the point that someone brought up earlier
that I mentioned is all these models are going to constantly change.
All they are are different muscles you can use.
So do not become overly reliant on one muscle because if that muscle then is not used, it becomes underdeveloped and useless.
And so think about it from a sense of all of these models are to constantly come in and out.
And so think about it from a sense of all of these models are to constantly come in and out.
You are the brain that you need to harness and you need to learn and test and, you know, develop those muscles out and be willing to, you know, get big biceps or get, you know, big hamstrings.
So whatever is underdeveloped, you need to be willing to learn.
you need to be willing to learn and that is probably the best analogy i could give it but
And that is probably the best analogy I could give it.
for you know recently there's been the open claw and clawed mod going viral but the best way to
think about like a 24 7 like employee or agents of employees is realistically a human body like
what are the different parts of it that need to function the same way a human does if you want
to build out agents and if you can recreate those same functions
or responsibilities,
you're then automating out your life.
And I think the one thing
that I think is really important,
this is a little bit of a sidetracked point,
but I think a lot of people now
that they can vibe code
or think that they can vibe code particularly well
become addicted to the idea of building without actually shipping.
Me, myself, can do this as well.
I have found I have a ton of different things that I've built over the last few months,
more and more of which I'm like,
all right, now is this a fun side project or is this something I'm actually building?
And understanding the difference in how you allocate your time is super important because realistically, guys, most of us are
probably not going to build the next billion dollar SaaS. I'm just going to be honest with you.
And it's also just the reality, like software is becoming cheaper and cheaper to produce.
The value now is can you teach boomers or people that are not ai native how to become ai native so that's a
massive opportunity as grateful mentioned a lot of people already recognize it but go help automate
businesses outside of web 3 and ai don't go after ai businesses in ai go after people they don't know
shit about ai that is your opportunity.
It will not last forever, but there is a lot of it.
There are so many businesses that are out of date,
need to be automated, that are fucking prehistoric.
I think we all know that.
That is a massive opportunity. Go do it.
The next one is, realistically, if anyone can build anything,
if I, myself myself with no engineering experience
can clone a half a billion dollar company software well that's pretty scary for the half a billion
dollar company but at the same time that doesn't mean that i have the distribution to make that
product a reality and so people need to too, just because you build something cool does not mean
you necessarily have the audience for it to become the next massive big thing. And so I would
restructure your frame of thinking around how am I going to build the next billion dollar SaaS
to how can I build tools or apps for myself to help save me money so I can spend less on
subscriptions. Just start with that frame of thinking.
How can I save money and remove software I already paid for
with stuff that's native that I don't have to pay for
or that I pay for less?
That's the first step.
Then once you've done that,
then you can think about,
oh, what apps can I build that solve real problems
that people will end up paying me for?
Don't try and do number two before you've done number one.
If you haven't built personal apps that make your life easier yourself,
then why are you trying to make everyone else's life easier
and make them give you money for an app that you don't even know
if it's going to work or realistically solve their lives?
So like I said, approach it from fix your life first,
fix things that you need automated,
learn about how you can turn those into apps,
then approach, okay, now that I've automated things
that I need that work and make me more efficient,
how can I help other people?
And that's another opportunity.
That's the AI agency.
It could be boomers.
It could be other things.
You could help people with prompting.
You could help people with vibe coding.
You could sell AI classes if that's the direction you want to go. There's a lot of different ways to approach it, but I think ultimately it's stop thinking you're going to build the next thing that's going to make you a billionaire and start thinking of how can I just remove $5,000, $10,000, $20,000 of expenses for my regular life that
I'm spending monthly already now with AI?
Like, how can AI help me?
Then after you've done that, now you've saved some money.
You have some extra money in your pocket.
Maybe you have more wiggle room to play around.
That's the time to then go build something or test something.
And a lot of people will also just get into an idea of like oh i need
to ship something and be first to market i'm sorry but like first to market does not matter anymore
guys i'm sorry to break it to you but if someone can copy you in a weekend being first doesn't
matter anymore um it might matter if you have the distribution for it to grow substantially larger than your competitors, but in a lot of cases, that's not really true. And so I think it's come down to now,
you know, build stuff that makes your life easier. And if you do that, then you'll learn how to build
stuff for other people. And that's really the value because if you do that, you will make
yourself actually irreplaceable because when it comes down to how do you make money, you need to create value.
And as we've touched throughout this space, that's a constantly evolving category of how to drive value in a particular market.
Obviously, AI is hot right now.
But think about all the people that don't know what the heck a clodbot is or that aren't on CTt seeing every viral thing maybe they're on linkedin and they see it two three weeks later again opportunity
so recognize what opportunities there will be and i also think maybe let's say you're not super in
ai also figure out what businesses will never be impacted by ai. Like for example, my family friend, he runs like a dog boarding business
and a dog training business.
No matter what happens with AI,
that business is still gonna exist.
So find businesses like that.
They exist, I promise you they do.
Obviously AI has completely disrupted the market
and every digital skill can now be replaceable.
But think about how there's still opportunity.
When innovation replaces jobs, it also creates opportunity.
And so find those opportunities and make yourself profitable,
make yourself rich, make yourself wealthy, and make yourself comfortable.
Because to Grateful's point, as well as other people's,
it could be six months, it could be a year, it could be three years.
I definitely think it's the smallest amount of time we as humans want to admit, but we don't have a ton of time left until a lot of things get automated, jobs get constantly replaced, robotics take over manual work, and then what's left?
The people that really took the time to learn these things, find the opportunities, Because just because things get replaced with AI robotics
does not mean there's not new opportunities
or new ways to make money.
You just have to be, honestly, resilient
and flexible enough to find them.
100% agree here, man.
It's really interesting about a future
where you probably will have your own AI agent
that will talk to other AI agents, right?
So if you want to book a restaurant, you will tell it to your AI agent
and AI agent will go find a restaurant and talk to the restaurant's AI agent
and book it for you. It's going to be wild. And I think this
might be even possible today, right?
What were some of the things that you built for yourself?
If you can share those, like that really changed how you operate
or that helped you the most?
If you can share some examples, that would be really cool.
Yeah, I'm more than happy to.
So like I said, the thing to really do is,
and you can even have a conversation with AI,
sorry, an AI like LLM chat around this,
but find things that you do daily.
So like, I'll give you an example.
I, you know, over the last year or so,
was previously at OpenSea
and I did a ton of different things,
social media wise and content wise for them.
And so I broke down different things into workflows.
So, you know, me searching Twitter for keywords
for tweets to reply to, that's something manual I do that I automated into a workflow.
Me trying to find viral content that is good inspiration for content maybe I could remix or reformat or just learn things from,
built a tool for that to find viral content on different channels
just so I can reference or decompose it or deconstruct it.
When it comes to my creative process,
so being able to turn an NFT image
into a full-scale production-grade animation,
that's something else I've automated into an app.
When it comes to deep research,
one thing I personally am trying to build out for myself
is just a personal CRM,
but also a 24-7 sales agent that operates within it.
It does outreach, it does lead scoring,
it does all those different things.
That's something I'm building for myself to just grow out my psychedelic database
in terms of people that could be perfect for psychedelics anonymous in terms of candidates.
But you could bend that to your will, to your own way,
depending on what your potential purpose for it was.
And then plenty of other apps, to be honest with you.
I don't want to bore you at length,
but I probably have close to 40 different things
that I'm just playing around with.
It does not mean they will all ever be publicly facing.
I would imagine probably 10 to 20 of the things
that I've been building or working on
will probably be revealed over this year.
Some are more realistically bigger apps
that are going to be something that I'm going to be driving and distributing.
Others will be apps that are focused primarily just for the PA community.
Some could be tools that are more crypto or NFT market related but not grouped to a particular community per se.
particular community per se.
I really like the stuff that you mentioned about content creation and looking here into
the audience, we have a lot of content creators here.
And I believe AI tools can help you so much, not just like going to chat GPT and be like,
hey, create tweets for me, which is not going to work, but research, learning new stuff,
seeing trends and everything that can be really, really valuable.
Which tools would you recommend to content creators
that they want to create what you mentioned,
like see what's trending, see, you know,
maybe I would love to look,
I don't know if it's possible to like search it,
but let's look into the BYC community and see the word cloud, right?
See what they are chatting about the most, what's most hyped, etc.
Which tools would you recommend me to use for that?
Sorry, what tools were you saying within the PortApe community?
No, no, I mean like for the Twitter, for example,
you mentioned that you were scraping Twitter,
what's going on, what's trending for inspiration.
Not necessarily scraping, but just plug into multiple channels,
kind of automating the way that I would look through them
to find viral content and kind of pulling those variables out.
So I guess in a way, scraping parts of it.
But to your point, I built my own tools because there weren't tools that could do it or there
were some and I didn't want to pay for them.
So I think if I'm being honest with you, I would recommend not paying for tools and
building your own.
Realistically, I think you should pay for some tools when it comes to a point of like,
are they too complex to build or out of your scope or maybe not in your interest to build?
Because if it's not something you're passionate or knowledgeable about, you're going to be a lot
less likely to finish it, in my opinion. And so from that perspective, I just try and find things
that realistically Cloud Code can build me.
I will explain my workflow.
I'll explain what I do.
And there's also other AI tools that, like, let's say, for example, you have a certain process you do.
You can explain that process step by step to AI and ask it if it's possible
to be automated into an app or a tool.
That's another way to approach it.
It's like just take something you do and explain it to AI step by step
and be like, okay, can we turn this into a website?
Can we turn this into an app?
Your unique creative process or your unique process
around how you do things is valuable
because everyone has their own kind of process,
and not every process works for everyone.
So I would say definitely explore there,
but there is no perfect tool for socials.
I use TypeFlee on occasion if I'm going to schedule things.
I, to be honest, mostly do all of my tweets live.
It's definitely not the best use of my time,
but I just find it more authentic.
It's just the way I do things.
I definitely could schedule more and I've done that for brands
like OpenSea or, you know, I just prefer to run things
personally on my account. I don't know why, but it's just something in my head, I guess.
But in terms of just building out different tools, I mean,
all you need to do is just tell Claude or Claude Bog or whatever
AI model you're working with,
assuming it has the ability to live search, to read documentation and learn things.
I mean, you can have it build out its own custom API to a data feed.
There's quite a few people within the crypto space that have Vibe Coded.
I think one or two of them have been viral recently.
Some of you may have seen them.
I don't want to get into the specifics of why that one guy is viral,
but he built out something that has been gaining a lot of attention.
And all it is is just custom APIs he built out of publicly available data points.
And realistically, anyone can do that.
And so the same way that you might have a process
or you might approach a process or you might
approach creatives or research or coding in your own way like try and package that into your own
thing like that is uniquely and innately valuable to you it might be valuable to someone else
and that's that's the other thing is you you know, I mentioned earlier, build stuff for yourself, then build stuff for other people.
But also, one thing that most people, including myself, are terrible at is go through your life, all of your life, and think about all the valuable things you've ever done.
Most of them could probably be repackaged and repurposed.
I'm not saying like snake oil salesman shit.
I'm saying like actually make it valuable
again in a new format on a different channel like that's that's not a crazy concept but everyone's
doing it um dan co who some people have seen he wrote one of the most viral i think the most viral
article on x um he broke down his process with Greg Eisenberg around content.
Incredibly simple, man.
All he does is just find viral content on the internet,
ask Claude to break it down from a multiple-factor perspective of psychological patterns,
like the way human and society interact with content,
language, things like that. Finds tweets, like I said, he likes, finds good-performing content, like language, things like that, finds tweets,
like I said, he likes, finds good performing content, deconstructs it, takes those patterns
and applies it to his own content to ensure that it will go viral. Literally all he does,
you can use the process. Doesn't mean you're going to be good at it just because you know
it exists, but that is all it is, to break it down very simply.
And when it comes to just creating high-value content in the age of AI,
if anyone can make anything, the people that are going to go the most viral
or gain the most traction are the people that are teaching other people how to do things.
And they're also going to be going viral for their content
because it's high value and people are going to bookmark it.
And so the thing is, if you want to go viral on Twitter, and I will tell you this,
this ain't no secret, it's literally just drive value. Think as yourself, if I was on Twitter,
if I saw something and it looked fucking cool, and maybe in that current moment,
I didn't have time to look at it, would I bookmark it?
I didn't have time to look at it, would I bookmark it? Think about your content like that.
Think about your content like that,
and it'll help you be a better content creator.
Not everyone is meant to monetize or wants to monetize
or be like a full-time creator either,
but that is something you should definitely know
just in terms of the age of AI and content
because it's only going to get worse and worse
with dead internet theory, with bad content creators,
with people producing
AI slop. And so if you know that now, you can definitely stand out and make a difference.
Your articles are great, man. And there's so many resources, how to learn. Do you use anything
to actually enhance your learning? How to learn faster, how to create maybe do you use anything to actually enhance your learning?
How to learn faster, how to create maybe some database of all the information?
Because I know us MFers here, everyone here in the audience,
we just bookmarking shit, right?
You bookmark in your Chrome browser,
you bookmark on Twitter,
and that's usually the end, right?
Do you have any kind of system how to keep on track with everything you're interested in
and how to learn stuff quicker with AI?
Okay, I mean, I guess the simplest way
to briefly touch on this is
I don't think there's any way to explain
a chaotic ADHD mind that loves AI
to someone that is not in that same setting?
That said, my process is fairly simple. Feel free to steal it.
I just find people that are good at what they do in a particular field, understand what they do, practice what they do, make it my own and remix it to my own, get better, and then I will go move and learn on the next thing.
And if I get stuck, I'll watch some videos on YouTube,
I'll read some things on X, and I'll literally just learn by doing.
So all my process is, is finding the best of the best at what they do,
learn what they do, get better than them or as good as them.
That's all you need to do, really.
You can find plenty of resources on the internet. There is plenty of free things. Do not go pay for some
bullshit AI course or some influencer scam course, please. There's plenty of free education. There's
plenty of free YouTube videos. Go watch them. And what I mentioned earlier,
the same thing applies.
Not everyone's process is going to work for another person.
Same thing goes with you're not,
just because I like a certain content creator that I follow
doesn't mean that you might.
Maybe their voice annoys you.
Maybe you're a visual learner versus an audio learner.
Maybe one person does a better job teaching core concepts
and then this other person you like for other core concepts.
Go find whoever helps you and then learn from them
and then do the exact same thing and just practice and learn and get better.
It's really cliche and kind of basic advice,
but it's honestly stupid how people are not doing it.
And from a getting better standpoint,
just ask AI to explain concepts to you.
Ask what it needs from you to achieve things.
So when people do prompts as commands
without just asking an AI a question,
imagine if every time you went in to ChatGBT or Claude or whatever model you use, instead of every time you went in to chat gbt or claude or whatever model you use instead of every
time you went in there and randomly prompted just on a whim you asked it a question before you
prompted you probably would have better results that that's just my take like you don't randomly
walk up to a stranger and then just jump into a conversation, you ask them a question. And I think that same logic should apply to how you think about problems.
Like you need context.
Obviously, models are getting smarter.
You have things like Claudebot with persistent memory now.
So, you know, in cases like that, those things become obsolete
and some things will become over time less and less reliable
or sorry, less and less needed for reliance and and ultimately
like you will be more successful but that said just because companies are abstracting away the
tech does not mean that you are getting better it means they're getting better and they will
become more rich you need to understand that concept because if you do not become like actually decent at a lot of these
things you will forever struggle and i mean that not in a fear-mongering way i mean it that like
an 18 year old that spends whatever time is needed to master these things will lap you because that's
just the reality of how tech is going to work and there will be fields that will not be affected by
this but man guys it's going to
affect a lot more industries than we are realizing and when you watch movies like terminator like
sure the machines all going evil might be a little bit you know of hollywood kind of
characterism to you know create a story and reel you in, but like things basically going all digital or all robotic,
we're not that far away from them. And so find which ways you can make yourself valuable in
the meantime and learn how people are making themselves valuable. And I mentioned the three
things I think are really going to lead that earlier our taste, speed, and realistically,
I think it's your willingness to really sit there and accept what's coming
and get good distribution.
You need to be a good content grader.
If you want to succeed in that particular market, doesn't mean that's your forte or your direction or which way you want to be a good content creator if you want to succeed in that particular market
doesn't mean that's your forte
or your direction or which way you want to go
but that's just my take on it
Man, it's crazy
one of your tweets
taught myself how to write
how to tweet, how to market, how to design
how to code, how to build, how to sell
all I got left, teach myself how to be a millionaire.
School, thanks for nothing.
But it's so crazy.
The educational system right now is cooked so much
because literally you can learn anything you want, right?
You're probably not going to get the social aspect of going to college,
which is cool time to be in, right?
Parties and everything.
Gravel, not to interrupt you, right? Parties and everything. But...
Gravel, not to interrupt you,
but we're living in a time
where you can learn whatever you want
for free online
and you can build whatever you want
with your fucking mind.
And some of you are still doom scrolling.
I don't understand it.
100% man. It's absolutely wild.
And, you know, I bookmark
a... Yeah, I love bookmarking.
That's crazy. That's my toxic trade.
100%. I bookmarked a tweet
about... There's nothing wrong with bookmarking
if you actually use the bookmarks.
I use my bookmarks religiously.
But most people do not.
There was a tweet about how to
use Notebook LM to actually talk to YouTube videos and
learn from those, which I'm going to try also tonight.
And it's absolutely insane.
You can learn anything.
It's so wild.
Remember back in the day, it's so embarrassing, right?
When I study or when I try to learn to speak English,
like you had that like paper dictionary
and you needed to search for words.
It was insane, right?
Like I'm so dumb.
It took me like hour to find a word that I want to translate.
So I was like, fuck, I have to fly to US to learn English
because otherwise I'll, you know, it will take me ages here.
So it's insane.
JB, any questions? Welcome welcome here how are you doing
hey guys um yeah no thanks for having me up uh great show grateful and and Klaus yeah thanks for
all the you know the the um the content you put out um i think it's very helpful to
to everybody in the space um and yeah i just just wanted to echo just what you're saying.
We recently put our whole team
on Abacus, which is
kind of like, it kind of
routes everything. So you can use
GPT 5.2
or you can use like Gemini
or Cloud Code, even if you
wanted to, like Opus 4.5.
we've also equipped them with a bunch of different frameworks for how to prompt.
And I think that now with these infinite, seemingly infinite,
like context windows now you see with AI,
it's really getting to a point where you really have to use it.
You have to give it as much of your context as possible,
as much of your images, everything about you, so that it can actually help you and fix some of the issues
you're going through. And I wanted to go back to one of the points you mentioned that I think is
really key is finding stuff to tackle that's kind of fixing your own issues or the issues that you have,
or parts of your own personal workflow that you know are eating your time like crazy.
And we have that, like going through Twitter and Discord, researching things, getting bogged down
into all these crazy details of stuff. But how can it help you get unstuck with things? Or how can it help you
work on things like, you know, while you're trying to do other things, right?
Building systems, right, which takes a lot of time building process,
trying to find the right ways to, you know, talk about events or talk about a new project you got,
what's the right cadence of, you know, how many times you have to talk about something?
How do you reuse content? I'm the worst at reusing past content. And the bookmark doesn't
always work. Going back to see some of your old... It's like your bookmarks are like a thousand
fucking tweets. You're never going to be able to do it. But so trying to figure out ways to tackle
that is awesome. But yeah, just using proper prompt frameworks for the team
and showing them in real time. We had a team meeting two weeks ago, where I literally went
from take this prompt framework to design a prompt, take that prompt and it confused a bunch of them.
They're like, so you're copy pasting the exact prompt it gave you back to itself.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's how you like the you know the results are like you know way way better right and then same thing for like
images right like using an image prompt framework to design the prompt that you're going to be then
supplying to another model let's say nano uh banana pro right and the quality is insanely better and
i don't and i think once people see maybe the difference of like,
hey, this is what you would be just typing in a chat. And then this is actually the prompt
and the image you get if you actually use the framework, look at the difference. And
I think people would be like, oh, crap. And you're saving a lot more money, especially
on the video side. Just using an actual framework saves you crazy amounts of money. And so yeah,
I'm kind of falling in the rabbit hole of OpenClaw too. I'm struggling every minute
of every day to not just take a two-week break from everything, just disappear instead of
going into the forest, just locking down and just going crazy on that.
It's awesome what it's doing and the use cases. It's really cool. So I can't wait to see that going. But I was going to ask you, Klaus, as well. I know you said maybe not
getting teaching or maybe not seeking out education.
I think there's a lot of free content.
Do you have somewhere where you have your own image frameworks
or your own video frameworks that you use that people could try to reuse?
Just asking questions about that.
No, no, for sure.
I have them that I do share within the pa discord so if you're a pa community member you can you can join me during an ama i do live
video sessions tutorials break down my whole workflows share prompts um i just got monetized
yesterday so i will also i think it's going to be $3 a month or something.
But on Twitter, I will also be doing my prompt libraries and some more behind-the-scenes stuff for subscribers.
And then I'll also be adding that to my AI agency, which will be launching very, very shortly.
But from that side, yeah, I do have resources. I think one thing to note is,
and it's tough to say this, but you want to be careful not to overshare in the AI era.
There are things that will help educate others and there's stuff that is inherently valuable to
you that maybe is part of something you're building. And I would say, like, creative tool-wise,
like, I have a lot.
They're all within my, like, AI creative studio.
Some of the PAs have already seen that within AMA sessions.
But, like, I don't want to overshare
and make it harder for myself
because some asshole just decided to clone me in a weekend.
Like, I know that is inevitable,
but at the same time, like, why make more work for myself
when I'm working on something I'm excited about?
So if you have stuff that's valuable to you,
like, I don't know, I probably have thousands of prompts at this point.
It doesn't mean I need to share every single one,
and realistically it's pointless too,
because models are going to become defunct or irrelevant.
Like I said, it's more valuable to learn how to prompt
so you can create those situations on any model.
But to that standpoint, yeah, I will be sharing more resources there.
And I'm also kind of working and getting warmed up to the idea of actually finally doing a YouTube.
So hopefully get that launched soon too.
All right, cool. No, that's awesome.
Yeah, I just wanted to ask because I've seen the
quality of stuff that you've been putting out and also I've seen some stuff from Raspi
and I'm like, damn, a lot of NFT brands, not just NFT brands, right? But I mean, any brands
out there, like the kind of Maman, the boomer shops as well.
They could definitely use some stuff like that.
They're paying a huge amount.
I'll tell you this much, Jay.
The really, really good creatives don't want to share all their workflows
because that is one of their most dependent
but also relevant revenue streams before that dries up and realistically
like over time everyone will eventually get to that scale but if you are experienced enough and
you can do things at a really really high production rate where people will pay you like
for example openc and i working together because i was really good at generative AI, like there are,
there will be opportunities like that for people that get really good at what
they do.
it doesn't mean that they always want to share certain things because like,
if I just share my whole process,
I devalue myself from future client work around that category.
And it's,
that's why I mean,
be smart.
Like there's certain things I absolutely will share,
but that's why,
like if you're a PA community member, I have no problem sharing that with you because I know
you're not going to like fuck me over but the rest of the internet I don't know that
and I think it's valuable to know the difference because I think you can make yourself less
valuable without even knowing it as a creator and I think that's that's very important to know the difference
oh yeah yeah 100 yeah no i i get that um i totally get that um that makes sense um and yeah i didn't i didn't really totally fully think about that like i was in the mindset of like yeah like you
know put it out i guess it'll help uh um you know because we were even thinking of putting out some
of our the frameworks that we've kind of tightened've tightened up for the team, for our workflow.
At least, I guess for the community and maybe now I'm thinking maybe gatekeep it a little
bit, have some stuff behind a Discord channel and then help people.
I will say this jay i i believe that education
should be free but i think if there's no exclusivity things lose value so yeah that's
the best way i would put it and then this age now it's not really i don't think it's we're in the
same i don't think we're in the same like like we're on we're in a completely different universe
right now you know what i mean like info economy is like is is yeah it's it's it's completely different now it's transformed so
um no that's a really good point and i didn't really think about that completely so no thanks man
damn so much alpha guys here today uh i just realized that i started this space saying i
hope you are having a great t, but it's Thursday today.
Holy shit.
I've been in my basement for too long.
Oh my God.
Time flies.
Yep.
Klaus, I don't know if you still have some time
because I scheduled it for one hour.
I have definitely a question about tools.
So if you still have some time,
please, could we get into...
Yeah, I'm happy to stay a few more minutes for sure.
If you have...
Let me know how long.
Epic, man. I love it, man.
It's a great discussion.
I think especially for us DGEN here in this space,
this is so valuable because so many content creators here,
so many people streaming,
having a 3D avatar, that's my
goal, prompt to 3D
video or
animation from my avatar so I can
recreate
content for Instagram.
Grateful.
Whoever wants,
let's see, I will
do, there's a lot of people in here,
so I don't want to overcoat them if I commit myself.
Let's say like five or six people aside from yourself reply with their PFP.
But obviously choose who you want, and I will make them an animation.
I'm not going to show you my workflow, but I will show you how easy and good
you can be when you master these systems.
Guys, retweet a space and comment.
Klaus, what they should comment.
Go ahead, your choice.
Well, I mean, we've got to pick a few people first before, or are we going to pick from the comments?
Yeah, we can pick from the comments or from retweets.
Guys, if you retweet, i will pick five of you randomly and uh of course you need to be real people so if i see that you
are all right yeah just have them reply and then we can just pick from the people that actually
listen to directions and aren't a bot okay yeah i i always figure out who who's a bot and who's not
man we hosting a basketball spaces every Friday,
and we always ask new people on stage a very tough question,
and that's, in which city is Detroit Pistons based?
Man, and only one person was able to answer that question correctly.
So you see how many bots actually you have everywhere.
Those are...
Jesus Christ.
They are maybe not bots, but they are people that want to farm engagement, that they go on stage and hoping for, I don't mind christ there are maybe not bots but there
are people that did want to farm engagement that they go on stage and hoping for i don't know for
what because they there are real people behind it you know they always say oh i'm not good in
basketball like detroit pistons come on philadelphia of course right but that's different
story guys uh comment whatever you want and we're gonna pick five of you and uh maybe comment uh pfp or yeah comment
pfp guys comment pfp right now we close we'll animate it oh my god it's crazy and can't wait
to see that and if you could get into some your favorite tools that you use because i started this
space not only saying that it's tuesday but also by playing uh all the tools that you've been using. I found them in one of your tweets.
It's so many, man.
Claude Code, Cursor, Lovable, Vibe Code, Gemini 3, Midjourney, Nano Banana, Topaz Bloom, VO3, Topaz Astra, Meshi AI, DeepSmind Jenny, HeyGen, Opus Clifite, CapCut, Jitter, 11Lab, Pseudo, Whisperflow, etc.
Claude, so many, so many.
So do you have any really favorites that you think that people should start with them?
For sure. I think I have to be careful saying favorites,
because I'm not trying to upset any of these brands that I like free money,
so if they want to offer me a deal, I'm not against it.
Okay, you love all of them, man. You you love all of them but let's talk about randomly generated
we randomly picked a few of them.
Let me pull up the tools list so let me... do you have a pin? I don't even know where
it is one sec, I'll grab it. I know it's in my tweet somewhere.
Man, I actually copy-pasted that.
I probably didn't bookmark this one.
No, you're all good. Okay, so first off, these are all the tools
that I've experimented with over the last couple of months.
I have used all of them. Do I use
one of them every single day? No.
And do I think you need to pay for all of them?
Absolutely not.
That was not the point of the tweet.
The point of the tweet was to show that you have to be willing to experiment across AI
and understand different models if you actually want to be really good.
And so how I would explain this is you can break this down into basically like coding, creative,
and probably automation, and kind of backend, and then organization.
And so realistically, you probably only need like three or four of these tools.
You do not need all of these.
This is me just experimenting and sharing what I've tested and what I like and what I think is high quality
across these categories.
That said, does not mean that you will find the same thing to work for you.
As I mentioned multiple times, just because someone's workflow works for them
doesn't mean it's going to work for you.
There's also plenty of tools that
combine a lot of these models so for example like nano banana pro grok topaz vo topaz meshy
higgs field opus feed 11 labs a lot of that even uh most of that, I think, if not in entirety, can be within separate tools.
So like Higgsfield has access to most of that.
Kriya has access to most of that.
And FreePick as well.
And so you could just use one AI creative tool, and you don't need to be paying every single one of these, and use those models through there.
The other thing for coding is, realistically, you do not need every single AI coding agent.
But the people that are Vibe coding, trust me, they are experimenting with every single model when it comes out because they're curious and they want to know.
experimenting with every single model when it comes out because they're curious and they want to know.
And so understanding which ones work best for you and understanding kind of like a brain versus a muscle
where like most people are using Claude now as a brain, like Opus as the brain,
and they're using Codex as the muscle for coding.
So like Claude makes the plan, Codex actually does it.
But when it comes to learning these tools,
like I said, you kind of just kind of get nitty and gritty
and just play around.
And realistically, you also need to watch some content,
understand what you're doing,
or read up on some content or some tips
so you can have some relevant reference
on what is high quality
or what is the right way to do something.
And then just experiment and play around
and figure out which of these really drives value for you.
That said, these are different things
that obviously people use to build as well.
So Remotion is something that came out recently
that you can obviously use coding
to do motion graphic animations
pretty fucking cool and very disruptive and now you have like higgs field integrating that
to do like you know basically ads at at end via ai at a professional level which is crazy
but realistically like i said you only need like three or four of these tools
so i would research them figure out what works for you almost all of these two also have free trials
to not just immediately buy it because like you see it on some like list i shared this because
i wanted people to know what tools are out there as well as like what i'm experimenting with because
it's valuable not you know advocating
that you go and buy every one of these on the list you will go broke doing that and I am also
in the mindset of you know if you use any of these tools you should also be willing to understand how
they work so if you want to build them from scratch you can also do that too I mentioned earlier try
and find ways to minimize your subscription costs
because in the age of AI, everything is going to be a fucking subscription. And so you want to be
able to rebuild things when you see something you like and have it natively your own. So you pay for
it cheaper. That is the end goal for you to optimize how much money you got in the bank and
how much money you have long-term. And that should always be a priority and so that's
the way i think about it but like there is no right way i think anyone that tells you uh there
is is just bullshitting you and themselves yep agree man i pin up the the tweet so you can see
all those tools there i think the the alpha from today's space is really think about what you want to do, try stuff, right?
Like there is no one way how to approach it.
Everyone has different needs.
Everyone has, you know, want to build something different.
But the tools are getting so much better.
It's absolutely wild.
What do you think about OpenAI Codex?
Okay, so let me get into what I find impressive. These aren't necessarily favorites, but just what I find
impressive recently. Nano Banana Pro, incredible model.
Arguably the best image model right now.
Pretty much what I use for anything creative when it comes to creating an image frame.
That said, there's probably cheaper ways you can do it.
You can probably do it through Grok if you are very experienced with JSON prompting.
Grok has also gotten incredibly good recently and incredibly cheap and fast.
That said, it's still behind, in my opinion, Google when it comes to creative AI
and image and video standpoint. But their video model is getting increasingly good, where I am
now kind of 50-50 using it between that and VO 3.1, which VO, which most people saw, was Google's
model, but people were making viral videos all over the internet the last few months.
And a lot of people actually have built out workflows to create TikTok videos or viral videos on Instagram at length.
And they've built out social followings and monetized their accounts that way.
Another easy way to make money right now, too.
You can help build out accounts across different niches and 100% monetize that if you're good at it.
In terms of coding, I'm pretty sure everyone knows
Claude Code has been the talk of the town for a long time.
If you haven't used Claude Code, honestly, you're missing out.
That said, Codex recently has been definitely very, very impressive in terms of having less bugs, understanding a full code base much better, and just generally being a higher quality output. I still think cloud code could do it if you know what you're doing as an engineer or an experienced vibe coder.
But I think for the average person, like I said, using the right muscles within your AI brain for the right tools and the right use cases is the right way to approach it.
And then I guess looking through here, I use pretty much perplexity in Gemini for research or reports.
I use Cloud Cowork as a file manager or to do tasks like clean up different external hard drives,
clean up file architectures or naming conventions,
or make spreadsheets out of complex data that I just
did deep research on or create data points or graphs or charts. I use Figma just as a designer
because I've used it for years. Obviously, I've had to get better and better at it over the years,
and there's arguably people that are way better at it than me.
But I think understanding Figma and knowing how to use it in today's age
is incredibly valuable because, in my opinion,
I think Adobe is a stock that pretty much everyone should be shorting.
I think there's so many generative AI creative tools
that unless Adobe is quick to pivot constantly
and constantly putting out products,
that they're going to lose a shit ton of value
in the creative market.
Jitter is a super fun tool just to do animations.
So like you've probably seen Abstract Chain.
They do like really cool, like simple graphic animations
for like XP updates or different things but
you could do those in jitter it's a really simple tool it basically works and operates the same way
like cap cut video editing does but with animations and it's just like click and drag and you know
move your animations around you know shorten them whatever but it's just very easy to use at a user level
I personally really like Topaz model for upscaling but there is you know a lot of different models
out there Magnific is another one people really really love I also like it too the founder is
also really cool that they got acquired by free pick so you
already know they're successful as well um in terms of audio i pretty much do all of my music
generation through suno i do 11 labs uh for voice generation and i guess my workflow or way of doing it is I'll take a real voice
and then use one of their character voices
through it
versus just using a character voice
and I find it more realistic and more like...
May I ask you here?
Yeah.
Because I've been using 11 Labs also
and I think it's really cool
but you clone your own voice,
or what do you mean by saying that you use their characters?
So they have presets in 11 Labs for voices.
And this is arguable, but this is my take.
I think AI voices still aren't at a level
where they sound perfectly like humans or 100% realistic. but this is my take is I think AI voices still aren't at a level where,
you know, they sound perfectly like humans or a hundred percent realistic.
I almost every time can tell maybe like 99% of the time that maybe there's one, 1% where I am not able to, but regardless,
my point is if you record a voice or if you have a recording of a actual
human voice,
you can use that in 11 labs and then use like the
voice modulation or one of the presets on top of it and it will sound much more genuine and human
so i'm just sharing that as a little piece of alpha let's see here i use pretty much whisper
flow or dictation just to try and save my freaking wrists and my fingers because I'm on my
phone or my laptop way too often and I think everyone honestly should at first I was like
worried about potentially like the AI you know models being trained on your voice or deep fakes
but honestly I'm just like bro this saves me so many hours a day and like i don't want my hands to hurt or i don't want to be getting carpal tunnel um let's see here gamma is a really cool tool for presentations but basically if you
have a structure or content already made or an idea you can pull it into gamma and it'll help
you make an ai presentation that's actually pretty high quality and not anything cookie cutter.
And you can also pull in the image model tools
to generate images within the slideshow.
So very cool tool.
Supabase and Vercel,
those are just basically like table stakes
if you're vibe coding.
They have free plans as well,
but I would definitely, obviously if you're going to be vibe coding, you need those.
Framer, I think is just a great resource.
They're one of the best, and they disrupted the design space for websites.
But they're just a great resource to find good websites.
You can buy cheap templates if you need a good landing page.
And also, if you don't want to buy them, you can find free ones.
And furthermore, you can also just use them as a reference, screenshot them, or give that link to AI and say, I like this from this website.
Oh, this design is nice.
Oh, I want to reproduce this.
There's plenty of design references online. There's Dribbble. There's, you know, so many different resources when it comes to, like, digital assets.
And then in terms of N8N, just automating, you know, simple workflows.
So you can use that however you want with different APIs.
They have full, you know, ability to add your own API,
customize, do a lot of crazy things.
It requires being a lot more technical.
But if you spend, I don't know,
probably one to three hours just watching YouTube videos
and actually instead of just bookmarking the video
or watching it and not doing anything,
building alongside it, I think you'll be able to do it.
And just learning that is super valuable. Again, another tool you can alongside it I think you'll be able to do it and just learning that is super valuable again another tool you can probably I
think free trial and I think you can build one or two workflows before they
try and charge you let's see here I use Higgs fields for just crazy effects or AI influencers.
I use Meshi for 3D modeling
after I've done my image generation in Nano Banana.
I'll then move it to Meshi.
Mid Journey, I pretty much don't advocate
anyone necessarily pays for it,
but at the same time,
it is one of the best resources to find viral image styles.
They were the earliest to image models, and in my opinion, still one of the coolest.
They're just not one of the best creative tools anymore, but they are one of the best for finding just art styles.
And it's a nice, clean interface, but I just use it more to find references.
Gemini I think is pretty much one of the most impressive as of late for just front end or UI.
So if you give it things like a framer.com you know website template or reference it does a pretty damn good job and arguably much better
job than clod or codex at front end that said like complex coding tasks still going to use codex
kiwi that's been kind of a little bit more of a topic recently i haven't played around with it
nearly enough but a lot of a more cost affordable model
and is arguably kind of in a stance between claude and codex or what people are saying
in terms of efficiency and accuracy that said i'm seeing that was kind of maybe a little bit
overhyped and codex is still way better i haven't played around with it enough to really give a fair kind of comment there
um lovable and vibe code these are pretty much where i prototype i mentioned i do mobile design
first as just like a policy for me to constrain myself and make me a better designer but for vibe
code i love vibe code because they've abstracted away pretty much that process i taught you about ideation
and documentation and like that interrogation aspect and you can just input one sentence
prompts on vibe code and i can prototype some pretty cool shit um that said i'm still going
to use my way of building things if i want to build something to the full level. But they have abstracted away a lot of what makes FODCoding difficult.
And in my opinion, definitely a top-tier app.
And they're not one of the big players either.
They're up-and-comer out of SF with, I think, 100 or 200K followers.
But compared to ChatGBT or Cla know, one of these other larger models.
They realistically are using Cloud Code in their back end, but they have their own custom setup on top.
Lovable, just a great resource for, you know, web prototypes.
They were one of the earliest to Vibe coding.
They blew up.
That said, there's a lot better tools for building complex
apps now, but in terms of prototyping or just building something or going through the process
of interrogation of your idea from that to documentation to building out an app, it can
teach you quite a bit. Let's see, anything else I missed here, I know I've hit on a lot. So I
kind of want to start stop rambling here. And then most
recently just been setting up an open cloth for psychedelics
anonymous. So really excited for that to be going live probably
next week.
Am so you got to also make mini damn Apple stock. I haven't
checked but they sold a lot of these. Man, I absolutely
love what you said. And
guys, it's
insane because I think spaces are
absolute alpha. We
learned so much from Benjamin. We learned
so much from Mikey about building games
with Unreal Engine. And today we learned
so, so much
about Vive coding. I absolutely
love it because I got so much inspiration
out of this space it's unbelievable
and now I'm checking the 11
labs and they also have
just drop image
or video and they
create a version that is
lip sync so you can upload your voice
so I definitely have to try
it I will
definitely use the transcript of this space
and not bookmark it, but really use it
and go through those tools and see what I can build.
So Klaus, man, this was insane.
It's incredible.
Like I believe guys, if you,
because I see a lot of builders in a BYC ecosystem, right? A lot of content creators, guys, if you... Because I see a lot of builders in the BYC ecosystem,
a lot of content creators,
artists, people creating games,
people building,
and this is game changer.
This is game changer for everyone.
So I'm so hyped.
I also see Uncle Mac joining us here.
Uncle Mac, welcome here.
Do you have any questions for Klaus?
Hey, G, I'm grateful. Yeah, I jumped up because Klaus said he uses Claude for the brain,
and I can't remember which round you said it. You said Claude was doing the legwork,
and Opus was doing the thinking. Is that your opinion? Do you stick with that? What's your thoughts on that?
Yeah, so that's just my perspective,
but some of the top AI minds, for the most part,
are all using Opus as the mind or the brain.
So think of that from a sense of ideation
to planning and documentation,
but the actual coding is done by codex.
And so they assign basically different models to the muscles of the body
or for different functions or use cases per se.
So a different agent could have a different model for a different use case
for a different muscle or a different function.
Cool. I mean, just in my experience, I do it the other way around. I personally find Codex to be better at thinking with me and coming up with some novel ideas.
doing the legwork like i like if i try and if i try and give opus like the bare bones of something
i'm thinking of and i go hey let's think about this uh it goes cool you've thought about this
that's all we're doing uh and it does no more it won't give me anything extra whereas if i give it
to uh codex for sure and i and i mean that was my point i've said multiple times through this
uh somebody's process is not your process.
And I think people need to really realize that there is no right process.
And I think we all operate with these models differently.
So you might get more performance out of one model.
I might get more performance out of another model.
And it might be just because of the way we're prompting it or the way that our process is.
be just because of the way we're prompting it or the way that our process is but unless we share
those processes like realistically like people have their own and they're going to stick to them
because they know what works best for them and there's nothing wrong with that until they find
something better that they're going to do that and I think people need to realize that because
I can tell you this right now Codex and Opus will not be relevant two three years from now I think
we all know that sorry Codex might be but the model per se that is live right now will not be
and claude will definitely be relevant but opus will be named something else it'll be a new model
and that's what we'll be using and i think the reliance on models or becoming overly dependent
so like i had someone tell me that prompting was useless because they
spent all this time learning chat gpt prompting for images and i was like that is the most stupid
take i've ever heard like i spent like six months mastering that and ended up getting me a job at
openc and then i learned even more and more about generative ideas by being in the space
and realistically like models change,
but your process
and the way you think about them
doesn't.
So if you have a system
that works for you,
you can extract that system.
You just need to learn
how it works on that new model.
That's all it is.
Yeah, I 100% agree.
I also think,
I mean, just the key word there
was system.
And that's the thing
that I've been exploring more recently, I mean, just the key word there was system. And that's the thing that I've
been exploring more recently is I'm very good. Like I come from an artistic background and I'm
very good at holding a whole concept in my head. So I've done everything from blacksmithing,
woodturning, tattooing, that's my main career. And I hold things in my head as like a whole
complete image. But I've been trying to like explain to people how to do
that without whatever it is in my brain that lets me do that so I was talking to to my dad the other
day he's spent the whole year talking to chat GPT and Grok and he's trying to get further ahead and
I'm like right we need to focus on uh the systems that you can like put into place to get the same image holding a bit.
I call it RAM, like mental RAM in my head.
I literally hold something in memory and then go from there.
But if you don't have that, I think one of the key things to do
is get it down on paper.
And I gave this example the other day as well in spaces.
You could literally draw it on paper.
You could, with pen and paper, draw on paper and take a picture of it
and give it to the robot. And the robot will now be able to like see what's on the
paper as well. So I think the better you are at understanding the flow of something, you know,
sure, we know what a website looks like, but when you actually get into it, you know,
you need a landing page and what's on the landing page. Is there an app? Do you launch the app from
the landing page? How does that go from there to to there you're doing that inside of like one page of different states you're doing it from
like one page to another page to another page back end front end like it's a it's a whole thing
and the more you work through systems and how things should actually flow i think the better
thing you get and the and the and the more you try and keep it uh simple and stupid and go with the vibes like literally
vibe code I think that gives the better results as well like trying to be too technical with it
sometimes in my experience is just it just leads to more you know undo button smashing
on point and you know one thing that I think is just so hilarious seeing how everything is unfolding is that the reality is that we all need to just accept that we all know nothing and that realistically we all need to relearn everything that is about to come our way.
come our way. And, you know, the systems thing is on point. Like we each have our own system.
I think if you're going to learn anything from today, it's, you know, one person's system will
not work for you, but also your system could be innately valuable. And you might have multiple
systems. You should be trying to digitize them, productize them, make your life easier, more affordable, cost efficient.
And realistically, I think ultimately, if you can do that, you will succeed.
But you will fall behind if you're the person that's becoming dependent on one tool or not learning at all know in denial about what's about to happen because
realistically we don't know what's about to happen but i can guarantee you so much of jobs and like
the workforce and everything is going to be automated like every skill that is digital
claude can learn now everything that is manual work can be robotic work. Like, when you think about it,
a lot of things are going to change. I don't know what that means about every single opportunity,
but I know if you're smart enough to learn the systems as they come out and experiment and have
fun with them, that you'll be able to take advantage of the opportunities as they come,
because they're not going to be forever. And I don't think the permanent underclass
is really fear-mongering.
I really do think there's going to be the same people
that are in society now,
how we have high-class, middle-class, lower-class people.
It's going to be the same thing
of people that learned AI, became rich,
the already rich people.
Then you have people that maybe are kind of using AI and then
the people that refuse to use it or that just fell behind and then now they're irrelevant or
they don't know what the fuck they're doing. You do not want to be in that third category.
Absolutely, you do not want to be in that third category. So avoid it like the plague and just
learn what works for you. Because like I said, there's so much fun things to do out there,
whether it's like creative or coding or whatever direction you want to go
with AI.
Like there's things in real estate or healthcare that haven't even been
invented yet that are probably going to revolutionize AI or sorry,
those industries with AI.
And so for me,
I'm realistically just looking forward to just,
you know,
grabbing the popcorn and
enjoying the ride, but also make sure to set up your future a long way with it. Because I do think
people's reality is going to be heavily affected when they realize things are very much not the
same. The type of bullshit jobs that we see nowadays are not going to exist in a year or two
guys like the things that people get paid for i promise you they're not going to get paid for very
soon uh and i don't mean to just fear monger and doom but it's just like be prepared to build out
the skills to make yourself valuable now versus wait for that reality to hit you and you be
unprepared it's a tough reality to live in.
It's an exciting time if you are ready, man.
If you are ignoring that, man, it will be insane.
And it's funny to watch old movies when they didn't use computers
and actually when they handled all the work
through maybe Fox Machine or
through like letters and phone
calls. Man, I think
the productivity of those people back
in the day, maybe it was like
I don't know, you could do their whole job
in one day or maybe even like
I don't know, it's crazy.
It's crazy.
To your point, I don't mean to interrupt's crazy. It's crazy. Yeah, go ahead. To your point, no, I don't mean to interrupt you,
but to your point, like, I don't mean to doom and gloom,
and I don't think the reality of, like, when you see Terminator
is, like, the reality of what life is going to be.
That said, like, that movie was made in the 80s.
Think about how brilliant you have to be
to think about the future of what's to come
and predict an AI social network
and then that shit actually happens.
Like, bro, I'm not saying movies are reality,
but there's some truth to movies and books and history.
And I think if we don't learn from it,
we are doomed to repeat it.
And I think that is true with wars and countries and politics and plenty of things in society.
And we've seen it time and time again that, you know, human behavior ends up being good in some ways, bad in others.
And we learn from our consequences.
And so I don't think it's a doom and gloom, but it's like, be prepared and also
just like enjoy the ride because like, things are so crazily cool. Now, man, you can build things
with your mind. We've never been able to do that before. Go build something like that's so fucking
cool. It's incredibly cool, man. And sometimes you don't have right friends around you that don't, they know a lot about
the specific topic, right?
And now you can go to Claude or ChatGPT and you can start chatting with it and, and do
the research.
And it's wild.
It's a game changer because I had so many topics that I wanted to talk with someone,
but I literally had no one to talk about it.
And now you can go through these tools and if
you ask right questions you get answers. It's a really incredible time to be alive
and if you look at also at hardware like cars for example, it's also getting crazy with
self-driving and everything. Oh my God. I see two hands, guys.
So before we go to Gatsby and Uncle Mac,
please retweet the space.
Retweet the space.
We have 32 retweets.
We can do better.
We have more people here
and people can see it after we end the space
and can listen to recording.
It will hype the tune-ins.
Gatsby, go ahead, then Uncle Mac.
And then a few last questions and we can slowly wrap it up because
this space was packed guys it it was insane it was insane Gatsby go ahead yeah man I wasn't saying
I'm loving these bro and I hope you continue bringing more amazing you know people to talk
about AI and vibe coding because it is the future and I just wanted to add to the fear mongering because it's
real. I have family members who've already been completely impacted by AI and they've been
replaced and they can't find a job now. In this case, for example, human resources. Human resources
is disappearing really quickly and it's going to start happening everywhere, right? So either like
Klaus was saying, right, Find a niche that can't be
taken over by AI and concentrate on that. Or it's kind of like, do it or lose everything, right?
Or pick up, you know, ride the wave, at least keep interest peak and, you know, be on the lookout
of what new things are capable, you're capable of now with these technologies and stuff like that.
And yeah, man.
So I just wanted to add some fear because it's real, right?
Even my mom now is talking about it.
Like she's like, what the hell are people going to be working on?
Like my friends are talking about losing their jobs to AI and stuff like this.
And it's not going to happen.
It's already happening and it's happening.
So, so yeah, but thanks, man. Thanks, grateful for another
amazing space and thanks, Klaus, for
hopping in and sharing a bit of light
of everything you do, man.
It's true. It's true, Getsbib.
But we're here, man. We're learning
and, you know, we are early
to NFTs. We are...
That's a good question. Are we early NFTs. That's a good question.
Are we early to AI?
That's a good question.
Think about it, guys.
And Uncle Mac, go ahead.
See, I feel like we all moved on to the same concept
or the same, like, next thought process quite quickly.
Kloss went films, you went films, we went terminator um i was thinking differently in films in the where we're sort of assuming that this is the future and all the
future will be this you know ai robots vibe coding but there are other dystopian or utopian futures
and fiction where they go no we don't like the robots.
Let's ban them all.
I'm talking like Frank Herbert's Dune, where they had the great AI robot uprising and they
went, no, we're banning this.
We do no sentient robots, none of that.
Everything humans.
We've got enough humans.
We can just use the power of lots of labor.
So I wondered what your thoughts were on that class.
Do you think we get to a point where, you know, you were talking about the rich that are already rich and the elite and the upper elite and the top people.
Do they go AI?
I think it's a great great question um i think if you look at history culture film tv you know books
um they realistically predict a few different you know outcomes does that mean you know those are
the only outcomes at play not necessarily um but i do think to your point you know all of us have
realized a lot of what tv and movies have shown over the years objectively
in some ways comes true in some fashion or not um and i think that can be very scary to a lot of
people um and i i think realistically you know there are people that are working on the good
side of ai and there are people working on the bad side of ai um that that happens in any
industry any you know market that blossoms especially in the early infancy this happened
in crypto it happened and you know back in the day with with alcohol too like during the
prohibition era but i mean it happens to all industries. There are people that will take advantage in good and bad ways. And I think there are people that are fighting, obviously,
for the good. And I think Elon is obviously one that very much cares about the ethical
concerns as well as the permissions or boundaries we set around AI robotics. Because if they do get
to a state of, okay, these are being weaponized or these are sentient,
there is quite a bit of danger.
I don't think that the movies that we see are fear-mongering to the worst extent.
I think they show the reality of humanity when we make poor decisions
and we have to live with our choices.
And I think that's just one outcome. I don't think it's the most likely per se but um to your point i i think
it's possible that you know we end up up as a humanity and end up wanting to you know
maybe separate ourselves from technology itself um that said, I feel like humans as a whole are probably too addicted to technology for that to happen.
So that's a grander conversation at scale we can happily debate.
But to keep this conversation succinct, I'm going to leave it at that.
Awesome. It was a good answer.
Awesome. It was a good answer.
I mean, my only caveat to it would be
not necessarily that we go full AI robot human war,
just that maybe the people who are in charge
are so terrified of it that they cut it off early.
Like I'm in the UK.
This is the best example I've got. Our government said, you're
not allowed to watch porn anymore because they're terrified of just the censorship of
the internet. And I can almost see our government currently that we've got with Keir Starmer
going something similar and just going,
we're too scared of this thing. It's going to ruin too much stuff. We're just banning AI. You can't,
you can't have AI in the UK. I would not be surprised to see that.
Bro, uncle on that topic, man, here in Spain, they're going to ban internet in general,
like access to social media, to everyone who's 16 year old or or or
younger which is a problem because privacy is gone and now i'm gonna have to put my fucking id
to do anything on the internet like what the fuck is this right so it's kind of scary in that sense
as well right because i get okay yes uh there's some things that should be controlled in younger ages, but you can't
close up freedom with everything.
The biggest problem for you, Dad,
you will have to wait two years to actually
be able to come back on social
media, man. So that's probably the biggest.
10 years, bro. 10 years.
And Dino is bad for being too
old.
In the UK, because of this, I can't remember the name of the law,
but whatever Act is, it's meant to protect children on the internet.
That's what they always use in the UK and other governments.
We need to protect the children.
No, we're trying to create some sort of Orwellian society
where we can get all of your identity and details and everything.
But they've got to the point now, so they did this thing,
you have to be eight-turner-all-or-two on adult sites and adult content.
You have to put in all your details, like you were saying.
And then, yeah, they're moving it down even further.
So I think Australia, they just banned social media for under 16,
so you've got to prove you're over 16 to use social media.
And now in the UK, I think there's a draft act of parliament to ban VPNs,
because obviously the way around those things is VPNs.
So, yeah, I can kind of fully see this going to the point of not only have we banned, you know,
VPNs and social media and adult content, we're banning AI because we, you know,
we don't want 90% of our workforce to lose their jobs and become obsolete.
I could see it happening,
especially in the UK. Back to Playboy magazines, grateful.
Oh my god guys, you are wild. But you can generate your own magazine.
I'll
Klaus drop down
I have one more question for him but
he's probably traveling right now
so big shout out to
Klaus guys, click on his profile
give him a follow
check his articles
they are incredible, I had one more question
and that's about a bright future
right, like how will
future look like
if we use all these tools for our good?
But we can do another space in the future.
This was absolutely incredible, guys.
Again, big shout out to Klaus for sharing this.
I'm really motivated to do a lot with all those AI tools
and to bring the content creation to another level,
also spaces and everything.
Just for the transcripts, using AI, it's so much easier
than back in the day.
I don't even want to comment how we did it back in 21 or 22.
Big shout to everyone, guys, for listening.
I hope you learned something. Share with us what you learned. DM me. You know, I want to see it. And I will pick five of you from the comments. I see
one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. I see seven people share their PFP.
So I will use some random generator.
Klaus is back.
So maybe final question before we wrap up.
Klaus, welcome here again.
Sorry, I'm off Wi-Fi now.
I had to walk the dogs because it's been two hours
and they're looking at me like they haven't been outside enough.
So I got to hop after this, but feel free to ask your question.
Okay, guys, it actually worked. I told my AI agent to set up one hour time slot with Klaus's AI agent.
And now we are at two hours. our AI agents they would be so pissed man
like I think my fridge will fucking kill me right now so be careful be careful but Klaus how do you
see the the future with AI tools if everything goes our way and we use it for 100% for our good
to have maybe more time be more productive where's the fantastic future here
have maybe more time, be more productive.
Where's the fantastic future here?
Well, that's a tough question.
Because I think if you inherently look at society,
objectively, you could say that there is a large percentage of people not doing well.
And I think if you look at historically, like I said,
unfortunately, there's always some type of class system in society.
I think some people will use it and become really rich.
I think other people will not take it seriously enough
and only kind of use it,
maybe do something kind of halfway, half-assed,
and realistically make maybe make their
life a little bit better, but not that much better, and they'll probably end up still trying to figure
out what the heck they're doing, and then I think there's that third group of people that don't know
or aren't prepared and realistically fall completely behind, and that is the worst category to be in,
but I think from a sense of if everything good happens, what does society look like?
I don't know, man, because we haven't figured out, you know, hunger.
We haven't figured out poverty with, you know, billionaires and trillionaires.
So I don't think we figure it out with AI.
Not that it can't be figured out, but I think that inherently there's good and bad forces
that work in society
and that people care mostly about themselves
more than other people.
And inherently you'll work on the AI tools
that benefit your life.
And that might be a pessimistic or negative view to some,
but I just think it's the realistic view.
And I think realistically with robotics we see the different ways that elon's going
he's looking at you know things that in mars um i don't think humans are ever meant to leave earth
but i think it's certainly a possibility that we up earth so bad that we have to leave
uh and and i think you know there's some been some great points that were brought up earth so bad that we have to leave. And I think, you know, there's been some great points
that were brought up of like, you know,
what if we reject what we've done with robotics and AI?
That's certainly a possibility, I don't know.
But if everything good happens,
I hope everyone makes more money.
I hope society gets better.
And ultimately, I hope people, you know,
take advantage of it.
But I think history has just shown us
there is always going to be some type of class system.
And realistically, you want to be in the class system
that is set up for success.
Obviously, you want everyone to be there,
but that's just not the reality of how the world works, man.
It's not.
But I don't want to leave it on negative views.
So go build something today.
And I'm excited for everyone to have access to, you know,
these tools and then to get cheaper and faster and even better because guys,
building stuff with your mind is so fucking cool.
Like really just think about that.
Like that,
that used to be just a concept in TV as like a futuristic sci-fi thing.
And now it's reality.
Like we're living in the future. Like that, a concept in TV as like a futuristic sci-fi thing and now it's reality.
Like, we're living in the future.
Like, that is a reality and you should be leveraging these tools every day, having fun,
remixing them, figuring out what's gonna work for you and go make some money while you do it too.
Hell yeah, man. One more question and that's my favorite one.
How can people support you, man? Jsouši, když je to, jak lidé mohou připravenou?
Mám na Psycadelics Anonymous, který je, takže jsem vám.
Ale jak lidé mohou připravenou?
To je vědělá věc a příšel, že jste se vytvořili na P.A.
To je jedna z důvodů, které mohou připravení.
Vlastně nemám měl, kdy lidé kupují P.A.
To je prostě na náštěního artista. To je to, jak se měl, že se měl, zda ono ještění. is one of the ways to support my community. I actually don't make any money when people buy PAs and it goes straight to our artist.
It's just personally how I think it should go
given he made the art.
I'm focused on building out businesses and apps.
So when those release,
you know, helping support them or market them
or test them or just giving me your thoughts,
you don't even have to be a paying customer,
it's just helpful for me.
And otherwise just connect or teach people about, you know,
what you're learning in the space realistically,
help each other learn because I don't know everything.
I learn from other people too.
And I think if we do that, we'll all be better off
and definitely much better set up for success down the line.
Ultimately, I'm just excited to be here because
a year or two ago, I didn't know how to
code. I didn't know how to make
production-level animations.
I didn't know how to do motion design.
Now all of that is becoming a reality if you
teach yourself and actually
have the curiosity to learn.
I would say just be curious in
this era. If you're not
curious, man, you will have the worst fucking time.
Be as curious as you can be right now.
That's the alpha, man.
Again, thank you so much, bro, for joining us today.
It was incredible space.
I think you actually shared so much valuable stuff for everyone here.
I think it can be really game changer for a lot of people here.
We keep going, guys. These markets are great for building, learning new
stuff. So really, really hyped to do more stuff with
AI and Vibe Coding because I have so many things that I need to optimize in my
daily flow. So maybe I will be able to publish those tools for others.
That's really great that we can do that even without coding skills. Gatsby, go ahead, I see your hand.
And then we slowly wrap it up.
Oh, bro, I just wanted to add real quick to the question you said that, how do you see
an ideal future of a good side of society where we use all these technologies? There's
this very cool animated series,
I think it was, or I remember,
I saw it a long time ago.
It was called Solar Punk, I think.
Maybe Uncle Mac knows exactly how it's called
because he's an artist, so he's probably in it.
But it was a really cool movie or series
where literally they talked about
how technology was used properly by humans, right?
So if you want to be optimistic and watch something that can give a glimpse of how that society could look, check that out.
Amazing, man. Can't wait. We'll definitely check it out.
Klaus, go ahead, man. I see your hand too.
I have one last thought, just because I know myself and I have said plenty on this topic
and I don't want people to be overwhelmed.
And I think it is very easy
to get overwhelmed in the AI space.
I myself even being plugged in and informed
are overwhelmed every day.
And so my biggest advice to everyone
is just take it a day at a time.
Don't overwhelm yourself
and try and do everything at once
because then you'll do nothing at once.
And just realistically, that is probably the biggest thing
that is holding back a lot of people
is that they try and do everything at once
or they try and become an expert at 20 different things.
Just become an expert at one, then move on to the next,
then move on to the next.
A day at a time mentality
because I know you can do anything with AI,
but just because you can do anything
doesn't mean you need to rush it.
Like rushing anything doesn't really
generally lead to a good result.
So make sure you do it the right way,
but have fun with it
and definitely don't get overwhelmed.
I'm here to help and grateful.
Really appreciate you having me.
Thank you so much again, man. We see hands and hands and grateful. Really appreciate you having me. Thank you so much again, man.
We see hands and hands and hands.
We can't stop this space, guys.
Oh, my God.
Our AI agents, they would be so pissed, bro.
It's not only about the fridge, man.
I think my, I don't know, man,
wash machine will, I don't know.
I don't know what.
It's crazy.
Uncle, go ahead.
I'll ruin your show for you if you want.
I really like what Klaus said about being curious.
Unless you're a cat.
Don't be curious if you're a cat.
That's all I'll say.
Thanks.
Okay, that was the alpha.
Guys, I have one more alpha to share.
I wanted to share it earlier in the space,
but I forgot about it.
And yeah, so if you kept listening till now,
I will share it with you
because that's very interesting misconception, right?
I watch a video.
I'm not a huge fan of Alex Hormonsi,
but he shared a video that really was like,
I was like, damn, he has a strong point here.
And he was talking about businesses
and that people often think that with time,
everything gets easier.
But he shared that every business is hard all the time.
You just get too used to it.
And I agree, man.
Like you're just having different problems.
You're growing your business,
but you're just having different problems.
But there are still problems.
So you should keep in mind that if you have problems if it's hard keep going that's the way how you figure it out and be curious you know try new stuff and never
never fucking stop and i see so many legends here in the audience and they kept going i've seen them
in i've seen them in 1975 i've seen them in in 2008 I've seen them in 2008, I've seen them in 2020, and they are still
around, so it's incredible. You know, Lost, for example, the Orange MFR, he's been around forever,
so love it, love to see that, love to see all the builders. I didn't give a proper shout out to
everyone here today, so sorry guys, but maybe I will have an AI bot and he will say, hey, Lost.
Hey, Bronchis.
Hey, AlphaDegen.
Hey, TJ, the creator.
Hey, Sivu.
Hey, Jubrel.
Who's big?
JCS, guys, you're the legend.
And everyone who joined us today, big shout out to you.
Thank you so much.
It was incredible space today.
The vibes were incredible.
Alpha, everything.
It had everything.
You know, great people here on stage, great people
in the audience, great topics. Holy
smoke. Yeah, we did it.
We did it. Market is trash,
but we had a great time and really
shout out to everyone who's doing spaces
and trying, you know, to do something for their community
here. It's needed, guys. It's
needed. And I see
you and I really appreciate you. Yeah.
And we can wrap it up here.
Incredible space.
Again, Klaus, thank you so much.
Thank you so much, everyone who joined us here on stage,
in the audience, who's listening to recording.
Yeah.
And who's listening to our podcast,
because we are uploading everything on Spotify,
Apple Podcasts, or all of the other platforms.
Let's fucking go, guys.
Thank you so much.
This was Grateful Show 436.
Let's go, baby.
And you know what's coming.
We got to be clapping our hands, basically.
Everybody, clap the hands.
Just clap your hands.
Everybody, clap your hands. Clap your hands! Clap your hands!
Clap your hands!
Come on, y'all!
I'm not tired!
I'm not tired!
Clap your hands!
Clap your hands!
Clap your hands!
Clap your hands!
Clap your hands!
Clap your hands! Clap your tired! I'm tired! I'm tired! I'm tired!
I'm tired!
I'm tired!
I'm tired!
I'm tired!
I'm tired!
I'm tired!
I'm tired!
I'm tired!
I'm tired!
I'm tired!
I'm tired!
I'm tired!
I'm tired!
I'm tired!
I'm tired!
I'm tired!
I'm tired!
I'm tired!
I'm tired!
I'm tired! I'm tired! I'm tired! I'm tired! I'm tired! I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited.
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
