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WaveWarZ Vibe Seshππ±π: Music x Crypto Connect Sesh
Recorded: July 25, 2025 Duration: 1:34:10Space Recording
Short Summary
In a dynamic discussion, participants explored the growth potential of Wave Wars, emphasizing strategic partnerships, the importance of adapting to emerging platforms like Farcaster, and the significant purchasing power of Gen Z as a driving force for future success. The conversation also highlighted the need for effective fundraising strategies to support ongoing development.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Oh yes I wanna know, oh yes I wanna know, what's the name of the game?
What's the name of the game?
What's the name of the game?
Bro, what am I doing, bro?
What am I doing, bro?
What's the name of the game? I'm running out of London Bro, we out here.
Once a gizzin'.
We out here.
We out here.
Let me send the space out.
Got my pin posts up. You know the deal deal. Let me tell my space out. Got my pin posts up.
You know the deal deal.
Let me tell my G's vibing.
Let me tell my G's
thriving.
Let me tell my G's
I don't know.
Driving? I'm not really driving though.
But let's see. Boom, boom, boom.
Let me make sure we got the right groups
up in here. Letting all the peeps know what's see. Boom, boom, boom. Let me make sure we got the right groups up in here. Letting all the peeps know what's good.
Okay. Let's see.
Let me see. Vibing.
Vibing.
In the 9 a.m.
In the 9 a.m.
Man.
Oof! What another great day. Shout out to Candy. Spent all morning since 5 a.m. Man. Oof! What another great day.
Shout out to Candy.
Spent all morning since 5 a.m.
Bull posting my ass off.
Yo, if you see the timeline crazy, if you see me replying to mad people, if you see me, you know, reposting mad Wave Wars posts, if you see me talking about Wave Wars, all up on my page, all up on the Wave about wave wars all up on my page all up on the wave
wars page all up on my friend's page that's what's going on and i'm not sorry about it you feel me
shout out to shout us all out here man shout out to candy the ideas are infinite yo we gonna keep
cooking oh shout out to candy yo winning waiver yo you got the you got the best trade you know at least
public trade that that was posted you know what i mean but hey shout out to you either way what's
good candy how you feeling um i'm good how are you feeling feeling and grilling you already know vibing another beautiful day that's good yeah i'm just uh moving around here
that's about it god bless good no good to know definitely definitely got some things to talk
about today and i'm glad our our biggest hater slash lover is happy in this face, bro.
Nah, nah. I would say
biggest... What do you call it? What's the word
for Mumbo, bro? What do you call
yourself, Mumbo? Because you are
so... You give us such great feedback,
but at the same
time, it's like, damn.
You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna hit home.
You know what I mean?
Yo, what's good, bro? How you doing, man?
I'm feeling good.
Waking up.
It was about like 5 o'clock, though, in the morning.
Started, yeah, with, you know Candace Owens?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
Bet, bet. yeah yeah yeah bet bet a couple months ago she posted this
like uh
it's like a little series
I guess investigative series
she did on some
like some french politician
motherfucker
and on the
on the surface
I'm like why do I give a shit
but then after episode one i was like whoa
i think i actually low-key give a shit um but yeah no it was just uh interesting stuff going down
and yeah i was uh doing all that as far as a whole fucking lot took a little nap woke back up
boom wave wars i was here at eight but fucking someone wasn't i was like yeah
i've been back on to some other shit and i came back i was like oh look they're finally here so
yeah i don't know what you would call it i didn't really even consider it debate because like i've
done like legit debates before and you gotta fucking, you'll go research some shit.
And I'm actually trying to change your mind.
That is the objective here during this conversation.
Whenever I'm up and like, wait, I don't give a shit what you do.
I'm not trying to change your mind.
It's more so like there's this thing that's happening.
And for example, here, it's wave wars, right?
But the idea is nobody, right?
There's no one here that is wave wars, right?
You're Hurricane, right?
If you identify with wave wars, you might start to get a little,
because someone's talking shit, maybe, or whatever. Right? If you identify with Wave Wars, you might start to get a little ugh.
Because someone's talking shit, maybe.
Or whatever.
It's just like there's critique.
Right? But it's really just trying to like, it's like with a furnace or something like that.
Like a blacksmith just fucking shmacking on his fucking, his sword.
You know?
Putting it back in the thing.
Getting it hella hot.
Shmack!
Shmack! Shmack! You know? That's not like fun. his sword, you know, putting it back in the thing, getting it hella hot, smack, smack,
smack, you know, that's not like fun, like if, if wave wars is that sword, and if you
were that, feeling that, dude, that's gotta fucking suck, right, thrown into fucking hundreds
and hundreds of degrees, molting hot,ed out. Getting smacked a bunch.
And then.
It's all done.
Get cooled off.
Last little.
And then you're all shiny and foreseen.
And.
You know.
That's what I'm looking for to Wave Wars.
But.
You need that fucking in the oven.
Fucking. Smacking it back and forth on your little stone.
And I think that's what we've been doing.
Nah, deadass, bro.
Like, I really think Mumbo is, like, preparing me for, like, NBC and shit, bro.
Like, I see this as, you know, sparring, bro.
Or not sparring, but you know what I mean like
just getting ready you know what I'm saying like getting ready for the questions you know the
quote-unquote mainstream is gonna ask or like you know as we grow people are gonna ask you know
what I mean so yeah 100,000 percent if you can't handle tough questions from someone that genuinely
loves this thing and wants to see it go far and talk about
like the thing and wave wars the people around here that are like curating the experience you
yourself the person that's coding some shit to have this thing happen i love you and i love the
people around here so if you can't handle the critique
from someone that holds that position
well I'll tell you
what there are some people out there
that literally want you to fail
they are out here plotting
how can we make this not work
how can we get
Hurricane to be
an indentured servitude for life
how do we get this fucker to pay our
taxes for life?
And go get a 9-5 job for life?
Nah.
Nah.
So, I'm on your side.
So, if you can take that.
Or if you can't, oh, man.
I don't know if you're gonna fucking make it.
You know, but you've done
really fucking well. And I got high hopes. You know, but you've done really fucking well, and
I got high hopes. I know this shit
is going far.
Talk about Wave Wars for a second. I know
you're going wherever you want to get
to. So, if
Wave Wars is the catalyst
to get a bunch of artists and musicians
or whoever the fuck involved to get
to where they want to be,
then that's, you know, it is what it is.
So it be.
So it be, man.
Appreciate you that.
Yo, yo, that was a fire-ass one, Bob.
Man, bro, my boss has been giving me clips, bro.
Like clips.
Yeah, Wave Wars don't even fucking follow me.
So I feel a little, you know you know just a little
fucking extracted from my value from wave wars over there i'm not gonna lie give mumbo give
give hurricane some shit hurricane believes that we need to have a low follower account
on our wave wars account for the brand to do better and i believe that's absolute horse shit
and we should be following everyone yeah you know i'm not a great
person to talk about this what i realized nah bro you need to look at the x code x literally has a
code that takes in your follower whatever account or whatever into like how much it pushes you your
stuff out to the what's it called algorithm so it does matter but like so but but yeah but mumbo
bro i fucking got you bro that's fucking facts there's
a fine line to walk and zol i bet you have some nuance to add to that point um what's up genius
pothead how's it going yeah i think that's so hurricane so hurricane you're telling me you just
want to be a slave to the algorithms is what i'm hearing no it's not you just want to be a slave to the algorithms is what I'm hearing? No, it's not that I want to be a slave to the algorithms or whatever.
I'm just doing it.
So, it sounds like...
No, no, no, no, no.
Relax, relax, relax.
Let's cool down.
First of all, first of all, first of all, relax, relax.
Everybody, please relax.
First of all, I don't even be scrolling on the Wave Wars account.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I don't even use that account to, like, scroll and see what what's going on it's literally for promo and posting you
know what i'm saying if some shit does come across that i need a repost like somebody had a drop or
something like that it'll show up i'll see you know what i'm saying on either my hurricane account
which i do all that stuff on or you know somewhere else and then i can repost it there but like the
wave wars account is strictly
for getting waveboards as far reach as possible so if i have to play to the algorithm for that
i will do that the goal is to get that shit out there bro as far as so i i believe that there
is a world where you can get the account out there more by following all of the people that have supported us over the last three and a half years.
Of course, bro. I agree. I agree.
But it's like, it's why following is for seeing shit that's happening.
Like I said, I'm not, I don't use that account to scroll.
I see all the shit that's happening on my hurricane account.
And then I can transfer that to WaveBoard.
That is not what the wave board all i'm saying is that it's a magic internet number and to me it doesn't matter
so why not um let other people be a little happier um that's just my two cents uh i feel you's all i
feel you but like i said i know the way the x code the code on x how this platform works and it's
very valuable to study these things i would say
and it's like that's one of the biggest things that helps your tweets actually get out there i
know you you have you know certain feelings but i'm like i always look at things like what is the
cost to benefit uh ratio whatever because the fact is i don't scroll on the Wave Wars account like I said so like net following
like a bunch of people is
like net negative to the mission
of getting Wave Wars spread you know
what I'm saying y'all can disagree with me
but I've seen it my own self my account doesn't get
any reach I literally
I barely get any reach on my
account and that's because of that
shit bro and I'm telling you dog
I've seen the difference.
That's all I'm saying.
Let's, uh...
Who are you?
Tricky's in here. We got new peeps. I've been yapping.
We can get back to this whenever, Sclepper.
Yo, Tricky Buddha!
What's good?
It's Tricky Buddha
from Defy Space
Donkeys. Sponsored by Weed On Soul. Get yourself a bag of weed.
I had it coming here on both accounts, you know. You're right though, Hurricane.
It does, like, if you're not scrolling, then I would say fuck it. Follow everyone back.
But the thing is, for those people's's algorithm it does fuck them up because if you're anyone who's
following you who is not engaging with your stuff is kind of like slightly dinging you in the
algorithm so he could follow everyone with the wave wars account but he ain't giving anybody any
points if he's not actually scrolling through and actually liking and sharing stuff so i see where
you're i see where you're coming from i see where you're coming from. But also you got to get those blue checks to be mutuals to get you up to 5,000 just so you can, you know, rock it and actually get to the next level in the algorithm.
It's a fucking game.
Yeah, but you're right.
If you play it, some of those tricks are real easy to kind of follow and some of those tricks aren't worth the time.
Some of those tricks are real easy to kind of follow and some of those tricks aren't worth the time.
But yeah, if you know the people like and they like want followers, they need followers more than they need engagement.
Then like if they're doing a brand, if they're a brand that's trying to get their engagement rate up, then that you don't want to follow.
Right. If you're not going to be engaging. But if they need to like get over a thousand
or over 10,000 blue checks following us still,
then yeah, yeah, follow your friends.
I can dig that perspective.
But yeah, just like you said, like engagement does matter
because like I've seen on my personal account,
engagement like fall like through the dumpster, bro.
You know what i'm
saying like nobody being engaged barely anyone engages with my tweets and i'm like oh and this
and then i saw the x code you know i follow a lot of accounts that like show the x code and etc
talk about growth on x etc etc and that's one of the biggest things bro so after i realized that
i was like okay let me test it with this waveboards account it definitely helped the waveboards account has what 200 something
followers and gets more impressions than my account with 5 000 followers that's crazy you
know what i'm saying but uh that's a whole other topic a little bit of timing too figure out the
timing when when to post and all that stuff is even helpful sometimes it's crazy but i mean that
you can't i mean the data helpful. That's why there's
so many billionaires doing absolutely nothing
because the fucking data is helpful.
Yo, good to see you, Mumbo.
Zoll, Hurricane,
Web3Candy, Gabe, Art.
It's good to see everyone here.
I'm actually about to run to Costco, but
if you want me to leave myself here in the co-host spot
so I can bring in the room a little bit,
I'll do so.
Yeah, that's cool. You already I'll give you the room for you.
Yeah, that's cool.
You already know we always got a spot for you, bro.
Like we said, man, if we do follow you, it's because it's mad luck.
Like, you earn that shit for sure.
Like, take it as a huge badge of honor rather than something that you're
entitled to.
So shout out to my G-Mumbo.
You got the hell.
Shout out Tricky.
You got the hell. You know the good.
Much love, fam. Oh, you're back in a little bit. Cool.
Yeah, I was going to just comment on that about the algorithm. Tricky, he had said a lot of tips.
He had said a lot of tips before on the Spaces spot
too. And one of the things was, like, the follow ratio.
And I did, like, have mine below 50% ratios, like, for a while.
And then I started going in spaces.
And then a lot of people started following me.
And, you know, actual people I talked to in spaces. So, um, a lot of people started following me and I, you know,
actual people I talked to in spaces. So I started following the back and I did notice that as my ratio became, uh, more like now, I think I just crossed it like a thousand followers yesterday.
Um, thank you. She's tricky. And I was going to say, say um I did kind of notice like right now I
did start deleting a few people I was following um but as my number on the following side got
higher I feel like I've gone more into like um a like a doom loop of only our community type stuff like I feel like I don't know I
just don't ever see anything new on the timeline so like I've started to
unfollow people yeah you have to look at the for you versus the following page at
the top to that tab makes a big difference if it's following like those
are your people who you're following. Like when you want to go
support your homies,
you click on following.
And when you want to go
like see new shit,
you click on for you.
Okay, yeah.
And then I did follow
your tips about
having the link
in the pinned post.
I moved that to like
the comments
and that definitely did help
my own personal account.
But I have been
taking the wave
wars into spaces um in the afternoons and um i don't know it was at 274 when i started doing
it yesterday as far as followers so i'm hoping that um eventually it'll help
no it definitely 100 helps like uh i pretty much dm everybody that follows the wave war account
like as soon as i see somebody new i'll dm and be like uh yo what's good like why do you follow us
etc etc and ask them what they like or whatever and a few of the latest people have been like i
saw you i was following all the blue checks in the spaces. A couple of people said that.
So, yeah.
Other people, you know, really know about us and stuff.
Because I've also been talking to other people in other communities as well.
And, like, talking about the Waveboarder's account.
But, like, a lot of people are like, yeah, we saw you in a space.
So, shout out to you, Candy.
That's just definitely helping.
Okay, good.
Yeah, I know Spaces is how I got my account.
I mean, this is the first time I've ever reached a thousand followers on any platform.
So I'm super excited.
Let's go, Mumbo.
What up?
Whitty.
Yeah, this topic is actually exactly what i want to talk about i have a draft tweet i was writing up and i just didn't know how to main thing is like how why do people use the internet
like that's a big fucking like overarching thing but there's so many different little aspects that you can get into and i think what really triggered it um was like uh people's interactions where are you choosing
to interact on a post or not right and i had literally been up in a space and a friend of
mine really good friend of mine had said that they had seen my post. And they liked it.
Like, yeah, it fucks with that.
But they didn't engage with it at all.
No like, no retweet, no comment, no nothing.
And I'm all, so what the fuck?
Like, that shit's free, dog.
No one can even see your likes.
So if you're trying to curate a thing with your likes,
like, we're not doing that anymore, what's going on. If you're trying to curate it for yourself and save a little thing or just you can go back
bitch bookmarks exist i like and i genuinely got so confused in that moment i was like
what is happening i didn't ask him you know i mean this is all internally so it is just more
of a broader things like and i do this too i've scrolled past so many
of y'all posts why do i not engage what is happening in my brain right and part of it is
i want to see more stuff like x y and z if i'm doing the for you stuff which i've done a lot less
of something very interesting uh more on exactly what we're talking about, the following lists and the ratio.
I was following like 2,500 people.
My ratio was around that one to one.
And then I went through and unfollowed everybody and then slowly started going back.
Right.
My for you page shifted instantly
it was no longer all of like
the like bullshit outside my my bubble a little bit like this um there was a lot of rage bait
and like memes and this and that or whatever. And I only go right now.
Like,
let's go my fucking homepage,
my for you.
Let's refresh all the way to the top.
What do we got?
Okay.
It is actually a meme.
That's kind of fucked,
but we scroll a little bit and I'm seeing Violetta.
You know what I mean?
Like she's just on my 40 page.
It's like some web three kind of whatever,
you know,
I saw,
I've seen a hurricane up on here too.
And,
IOTEMI pulled up and a lot of my old friends that I feel like I would never
see on the 40 page when I would scroll the 40 page are now like being
suggested to me from Twitter.
So something happened there.
It was pretty interesting.
But,
my following like that, that when i'm scrolling
that side of x or twitter is so like that's i'm so intentional about that now because i want to
have a curated feed so that i'm always interested that i want to be able to look at and keep up on
certain people and stuff like that pour into these connections that i really fucks with and i want to be able to look at and keep up on certain people and stuff like that pour into these connections that i really fucks with and i want to know what you're up to right because i will
check and i will engage in this and that but man sometimes i still mute you and i turn off your
retweets because the fuck was that i don't i it, it was nonsense. There's so much nonsense going on in the world that you get distracted with.
And I've been part of myself about it recently.
I'm just like, why am I engaging with this?
So, yeah, I don't know.
A little bit of where I'm at on this whole thing.
I'm curious on why you might choose to engage with the post or not.
What's the main kind of thing?
Is it for you and your engagement algorithm?
Or are you thinking for their perspective?
Because if we all just liked every fucking post that we all did
and retweeted and engaged as a motherfucker,
ad revenue pays out and we'd break through to the mainstream.
Mass adoption happens like that.
You know what I mean? But I'm stingy with my likes apparently still and i'm trying to figure out why so apparently
according to the code it's the replies the replies uh verified replies that you have in your
uh comments or i guess that's the word replies yeah i guess replies
is that actually gets people ad money you know if you're talking about ad money well yeah but uh
but like but all of it counts as engagement that's going to help it show to someone else
give you another chance to get a reply right and also what makes you decide whether i'm not i'm
going to reply or not?
What's what's happening here? Yeah, me personally, I think it should just be natural.
Like if you really focus on shit or you really want to reply to some shit, reply.
Like I don't I don't like when it comes to my personal account, my hurricane account, I'm just moving.
I feel like like I'm not really I don't really care as much about like growing this account or whatever.
Like this is just like this account or whatever.
This is just me.
You know what I'm saying?
This is where I just vibe out and do what I want to do.
You know what I mean? If I see some shit I like or find interesting, I'll actually look into it, click it, like, reply, whatever.
If it's not interesting, then I'll just, you know, I won't.
thing then i'll just you know i won't you know what i'm saying it's really that simple yo but
You know what I'm saying?
It's really that simple, yo.
like yeah that's if i see the homies usually though i'll be liking her at least like at least
you know what i'm saying but like yeah most of the time i just it's just whatever i'm feeling
like but let's say what's up to zol who got his hand up what's up what's up exactly so my point
is like the way you interact with social media on your personal account should
be like low-key how you interact in general like i don't know i just am kind of over the like game
of like trying to figure out what the x algorithm is this week and then like not that that changes
but it's just like the other platforms coming out there with x being an absolute dumpster fire of a platform other than distribution for crypto.
I just like hate this idea of like spending our time in this hour space.
Like, oh, man, like how can we best optimize for X as opposed to like how can we scale this wave wars to be bigger than just some crypto Twitter thing?
Agreed. But in the book, Cold Start.
And shout out to Candy.
She's read this book as well.
I just mind if I'm going to be rugby sometimes, bro.
Oh, thank God.
No, we back.
We back.
But in the book, Cold Start, The Cold Start Problem. I forgot who it's by, but I highly recommend Mended Read. And I've been reading it, you know, the past, I guess, week or so, like whenever I have time and I'm walking and whatever, because it's helping me build way for us, like just listening to this book, because we still at the beginning, we still relatively in the cold start phase.
relatively in the cold start phase. And one of the first thing it says, or it reiterates a lot,
is the first thing that one needs to do to begin growth is to build an atomic network.
What an atomic network is, is a highly niched, like, this is where the seed is planted. You
know what I'm saying? Like, that's where you get your initial audience, your initial people that
fuck with you, blah, blah, blah. And the reason I chose X is because this is where I've been building.
This is where I've been spending the most of my time for the last few years.
So I was like, it was it was a no brainer.
And also the spaces I've been in, the people I've talked to, blah, blah, blah.
All the ideas to even build waveboards came from being on X, came from seeing things that happen on x came from
interacting with people on x so there is no better place to start that first initial atomic network
than the place where my real network even came from and the idea even came from and the people
to serve even came from like that's why you know X to be, you know, the beginning of the atomic network. But the beauty of the cold start, the beauty of that book is that it tells you, like, once you learn how to build that first atomic network, then you can use that same kind of process to build the next atomic network.
But what if the social networks are so inherently different that you cannot copy and paste the formula?
At the end of the day, there's also other atomic networks, for example.
Let's talk about Jaden, for example.
Transferable skills.
So there are some skills that are universal, like connecting with people, talking to people, learning how to just be around people.
You know what I'm saying?
And like X gives that opportunity to do that, you know, with spaces and, you know, just
being on the timeline, et cetera, et cetera.
It might not be in the exact same way as it's done on Instagram or the exact same way it's
done on Twitch, even though it's very close to Twitch.
And Jaden took a lot of those transferable skills and simply applied them to twitch twitch's you know algorithm in the way twitch moves and he was able to build
another network atomic in a sense atomic network even though he kind of left you know the twitter
atomic network but like the idea is there are still transferable skills that you can learn
and take to any platform no matter where you're at you know what i mean so at what point of a network of you sunk costs spending time into something and seeing something
else come up that has more potential to scale do you then change your atomic network right because
by your logic it doesn't make sense to go to a more highly efficient network just because oh man like i've
built my community here my only thing is i haven't seen one like i know you talk about a farcaster
but like right now like at any given time i'm always reassessing like where's the best place
to build what's the next best move etc etc and right now it's x bro like right now it's X, bro. Like right now, you said what, Mumbo?
Casper.
Oh, yeah.
I literally don't even know what it is, but I sent you a DM about it.
And it feels kind of on the same-ish topic.
It's next door.
No, that's facts.
I did see that, bro.
I did see that. But like, yeah, man, I definitely just like just all straight intuition.
I'm just building on X right now.
And there's a lot of, like I said, even on X, we haven't even close to scratch the surface.
I know it looks like it's quote unquote saturated or whatever.
I know it might feel like that somehow.
But like we're so small, like we haven't done any, done barely anything here.
You know what I'm saying?
Like we've done something.
Don't get me wrong.
But the amount that
we can even scale on x alone is absolutely incredible you know what i'm saying so the
reason the reason i say that is these atomic networks as was talked about in the book it
doesn't necessarily have to be a whole other social platform doesn't have to be a whole other
thing there's different atomic networks here on x like meme coin communities we haven't even we haven't even talked to any of them they don't know about wave
wars you know like uh the wider web 3 music community barely like people are discovering
wave wars every day and hit me up you're like oh shit when y'all start this you know what i'm saying
like we're not even close to being done here you know so? So I'm like, right now I'm looking at,
let's build our first atomic network,
which is the people that already fuck with us,
the people that we already love,
the people that we've been talking to.
And then, you know, make sure those people are satisfied.
There's also a phase where you need to make sure,
like shout to Mumbo for coming through,
you know, giving us all the critiques and whatnot,
because he's an extremely vital part to that first atomic network,
because he's telling us what's working, what's not working, et cetera, et cetera, how he's feeling throughout the whole
process, especially with an honest perspective. And then we take those notes, and then we can
expand to the next network way more well-informed. But the idea is, like in that book, it's all about
finding a repeatable process. The first atomic network is about perfecting the repeatable process.
And once you've perfected the repeatable process, then you can repeat that same process.
So my only thing with all of these like business books and everything that like tell you how to do things and people take their word as gospel.
I'm not saying that that's what you're doing here.
I'm just pointing out that they did not understand the speed and like,
they didn't understand where we are today.
So it's like with how the world is changing with technology,
specifically AI,
that methodology was true 15 years ago when
to improve and iterate on a process so much so that like the industry has changed, it would take
five to 10 years. But now that's happening in like three month stints and to the point of even
sooner than three months. So my uh like argument against that
is that there are gonna be technologies and pieces when you're building the next atomic
network that are there that you weren't available for the first atomic network so like i just feel
like um sometimes going to this like mindset leaves us as, you know, we're missing out on high signal
people from Farcaster because you believe that X is the place where we need to build our atomic
network. And while it probably has the best total reach and the best total place, like there is
still a lot of potential for as small, small we are to like grow really well on Farcaster. In fact, better, because if we grow by one person or one follower there, that's a hundred
or a thousand times more of a following there as a percentage of its social network than
it is here.
So like, I just want to like, give you the devil's advocate idea that like, while in
an ideal world, all of these things can happen
that's not what we live in the real literal world so we got to take things for where we're at and
like i i just feel like that perspective has had us not spend the last three months pushing towards
barcaster and i believe that if we had been doing that rather than just X,
I believe that it would have been more beneficial in converting actual users because no one knows
us there. Okay. I can dig that point, but here's my rebuttal. I've definitely posted on Farcaster,
maybe not much for V2, but like maybe not nearly as much as X.
And I'm glad I got the Firefly app, which posts, you know, to both.
Shout out to you for letting us know about that.
But like so far, I still have not barely getting any kind of response from Farcaster.
Yeah, but that's because you haven't actually tried.
Agreed. But it's like if I spend that same effort here where we're already starting to gain momentum
but that's the that's the short-term short-term mentality over the long term yeah it kind of is
you don't want to spend the time scaling up and creating a brand over there like i don't know like
like i get it like yeah you're gonna instantly get users here like yeah that's true but like
the community that you're looking for and like trying
to grow and like create this like squad of traders that like is gonna follow us around with wave wars
is there on on forecast or like the network is there it's just like you need to do the effort
of like reaching them and it's like just because you don't want to do the effort of reaching them
because that'll take a little bit longer and a little bit more time with not as much progress, you're losing out on the gem past that.
You know, I can start implementing a Farcaster strategy.
Like I said, I can post the tweets that I'll be posting on Twitter.
Like there's a bunch I posted today.
Like even with the even if you look up top, I definitely posted some fire threads and stuff.
And I can transfer them over using the Firefly app.
But I feel you, but I'm not going to put it above X right now.
Because X has both sides.
That's fine.
But I feel like if you're going on 100% spectrum, you spend 99..99% on X and I want you to be spending 80 and 20.
That's all I'm asking for because I believe that 20% of time that you're going to spend on Farcaster will outweigh the 80% of the time that you think is important on X, personally.
Again, these are my opinions and maybe not shared with everyone, like I've had this base app for the last three months.
Like I truly believe this is the way social is going.
So like to me, building on a like and again, like X has like all these other amazing things.
Oh, man, Vine's coming back with all AI.
AI, oh man, Elon's going to make it all better, even though he's totally done that in the
Oh, man, Elon's going to make it all better, even though he's totally done that in the last two years.
last two years.
It's just like, to me, I'll bet on the people that are iterating and taking feedback right
now over the people who haven't updated X spaces in over four years.
Damn, why you got to call my G-Mumble?
I like that.
I thought it was more like Elon.
But, you know, I fucked with both of your perspectives, honestly.
And I feel like I could see right there at the middle point.
And I'm glad that you said that last point is all, well, before you shit on Elon, rightfully so.
Because, like, bro, my iPad still doesn't have spaces, by the way.
Just throwing it out there.
Like, what in the fuck?
Hello?
That can happen, like, fucking yesterday.
Whatever.
I've got the point about, like, the 80%, 20%.
You know, I'm like, can both happen?
It doesn't have to be, oh, you're on Farcaster, you're no longer on X, or vice versa.
You know? But it can't according to be oh you're on Farcaster you're no longer on X or vice versa you know but it can't according to Hurricane's book right and that's why I want to point out that that's like like that mentality can lead you out on other opportunities while it's great to be
focused on a singular place and like really push the vector like forward as opposed to going in a bunch
of different directions all at once but at the same time two factors being pushed forward in the
same direction with the same vision is also in line with that i feel you bro but let me just say
this bro look at look at my shirt and my profile picture look at your shirt and your profile picture like i'm the x guy
but that's not how it works though like do you not see me right now here on x i don't see you
on farcaster so it's like you cannot make that same thing and then not be doing the same things
that i'm doing right if you're going to compare the two of us and to your point is all about people like falling around wave wars because like where are you at
you know and we had a conversation hurricane where it was like bitch i'm here you know and it like it
doesn't matter and that was kind of the point where when i was like wanting to clean up my
connections too i'm like yo i don't want to have to like get in someone's face and be like hello
like hey i'm doing my thing but you want to have to like get in someone's face and be like hello like hey i'm
doing my thing but you want to fucking buy it no i want someone to give a shit and maybe you think
about like hey oh is mumbo cooking something or just like likes art and is involved in the
fucking thing or whatever once fucking pal is signed to be free i don't need to get into your
face and fucking change your mind i just need people that have the same mentality to rally
behind the shit you know know what I mean?
So Wave Wars, there's something fucking amazing here.
I'm here.
I'm rallying behind it.
You know what I mean?
Where's it happening?
Well, I found it on X and I'm here because it's on X.
If you jump over to Farcaster, like, this is getting, I don't, I'm not even over there.
I'm trying to figure out what it is right now as we're speaking about it.
You know?
I know I've heard about it before.
I never really got on it, I don't think. I might actually have an account is it invite only who fucking knows man but i'm gonna
go check it out because wave wars is gonna go be over there so like all the effort that you're
doing over here on x isn't just gonna go poof gone because you're gonna jump over to or to um
i said it's all because he literally texted me. Jump over to Farcaster.
Where Zal is doing, he clearly has connections and knows a good amount over there.
You know what I mean?
Because he wants this to happen.
So he sent me something.
I'm going to check out what that is.
App Store Farcaster.
Yeah, that's just the link to download.
And you actually get a free account if you connect your ex.
So you don't even have to
pay to join and it is open um for anyone to join in and the really cool thing about this social
network that you can do mumbo as soon as you join in if you go to my account which is at zoll that's
probably another reason why like i'm like super pro farcaster and f every single other social
media because they've never let me have my first name um so that's also like a big like bias i'm not gonna lie um yeah i mean it's freaking sick no that is fucking sick yeah like
i i do have my name just zal as my minecraft username too yeah and i do think that's huge
um but i digress um my point of all that was as soon as you join you can dm or it's weird right
now because they just removed it from the profile so
like it's no longer available um like just on my profile but i can send you the link they have
these things called starter packs and this is what you got to do hurricane is you got to create a
wave wars starter pack but i've created a zao starter pack that has all of our zao amazing
musicians and people involved with us in one way or another on Farcaster,
Mamba,
you can go right to that starter back at the very top,
click follow all,
and then go through your algorithm and immediately already have a filled out
algorithm with people that you can support from the Zao.
That's fucking sick.
However,
I'm not getting my verification code,
so we'll see how this works.
I can take a second but yeah I do like the whole stack of followers
that's pretty cool because you can like
can you have multiple stacks?
like can I have like the Wave War stack
and then you know like an Underground Violet Rave stack
and then you know
I don't know political stack
I have no idea yeah you can have multiple starter packs I don't know, political stack.
I have no idea.
Yeah, you can have multiple starter packs.
That's bad.
Yeah, no, it's just a really cool feature that you can do with permissionless social that you weren't able to do before.
I mean, Elon doesn't even let you follow more than five accounts
in the same second.
So it's like he would not let you follow all on a list of accounts, right?
And, like, one thing I want to create is on-chain music
like a starter pack for on-chain music so like anyone who comes into the space that wants to
get more involved with music that likes on-chain music can come in here follow people and immediately
start being able to engage on farcaster and like actually get traction because they're talking to
people that are in their field so it's like that's the side of things. Like, you say you've done stuff on Farcaster, but like, you haven't even done 0.01%
hurricane. So it's like, yeah, but like, not really. Like, you're trying it out,
but you're dipping your water in, but you just got to jump in. You just got to jump in the deep end
and take that one week of no engagement for literally getting a whole completely different social media network out of it.
To me, that's a good trade and well worth it.
I made that trade eight, seven months ago.
And it's been one of the best experiences of my crypto journey, personally.
I truly believe that on-chain media is what gets us the the step forward to like quote unquote mass adoption just
because of the fact that if I am a average user and someone tells me if I just go post my content
on this new base app I'm instantly getting paid you know for for what I'm being you know what
what people are seeing as value from my content and not you know months down the road
not after i've gotten five million engagements already but like literally off of like 10 people
maybe wanting to see their content like that's the next wave it just is and it's like to me like
again every single day i come in here talking about it as a day we're not over there building
our community building our network eventually building our own Zao client to interact with the Farcaster ecosystem.
So there's just much more going on at Play Hurricane.
And all I'm asking you to do is spend 20% of your time over there.
Man, Zao's a great salesman, bro.
That's why I fuck with this guy.
But we go see what Katie got to say.
And then I do have β
I mean, clearly I'm not a great salesman if it's taken me three months to push you towards us.
I mean, we're still not even there.
Because I'm also very stubborn.
Maybe I'm a good wingman, you know, because I've never heard this pitch before from Zalt to Hurricane, you know.
And maybe it's going right because there's a different barrier involved.
I'm not going to take all the fucking credit, you know. But I's going right because there's a different barrier involved i'm not gonna take all the fucking credit you know but i'll take a little bit and i think candy should
take a little bit and fuck it tricky should take some even though he said about four words that
were his fucking getting in here speech and then he left to costco and still has a co-host spot
but love you tricky um but yeah i think we should all have a little bit of credit here because we're
doing the thing it's wave wars baby it's bit of credit here because we're doing the thing. It's Wave Wars, baby. It's fucking community.
You know, it's life.
Doing the human thing.
Shout out to us.
Really fucking dope stuff.
So, yeah, give yourself some grace and some pats on the back.
Literally, you can hear myself doing it.
Still shirtless this morning.
Oh, my God.
I need to go pick up my mother.
She's dropping off her car.
So I'm going to go dibbidi-doo-dah into physical reality for a bit and talk to you now.
Happy fucking Friday.
Holy shit.
I hope this doesn't feel like a session of me just like ranting, right?
Like I very much am saying this like out of the bottom of my heart.
I truly believe we will be more successful as Wave Force if we put the energy, time and effort towards Farcaster.
And like I really see the blow up and everything you're seeing on crypto Twitter happening, just not where you're seeing it happening.
This is my only thing.
And I just think that there's so much potential.
much potential this is my thing though and then we got to get to candy because she had her hand up
This is my thing, though.
And then we got to get to Candy because she had her hand up.
uh like even if we build an audience on farcaster right we still have to tell folks to come to uh
twitter spaces for the battles so it's again and that is your like limited mindset of like we need
to do x spaces to successfully do a wave wars battle yeah i want to challenge that that's like yes but it's just
like the audio quality is absolute trash like the reality is yeah we're getting people but like
i'm not gonna lie to you i feel confident that if we asked all of those people to tune in on twitch
or tune in on youtube that those people care enough about wave wars that they would do that
dog i would literally go anywhere else like if you tell me the audio
quality that one thing we fixed it you know what i mean better live streaming whatever the fuck
and the thing is like you have so much it you talk about this too on the whole bitch i'm here
right the end goal is not x the end goal is your own fucking platform where you own all your data or you actually are so synced up to this platform that it feels like it's your own.
If that's Farcaster, great, you know?
But it needs to be something that you and Wave Wars, the heart of Wave Wars, is like, yeah, this is it because it's not X.
You know that.
I know that.
Everybody in the room knows that, right? everybody that's been at wave wars knows that but we're doing it because that's
what we have and that's okay but where are we going that that's totally different conversation
so let any like movements get you hung up because ah well we still have to be doing our next that's
just going to be the fire underneath your ass to get the fuck off X
and do your next thing, what it's actually supposed to do.
Exactly.
And that's like my only concern is the fact that you're so like,
we're all like, oh, man, decentralization,
like get yourself off of platforms,
but we're pushing ourselves towards the thing we're telling people to avoid.
That's my issue.
If you had wave wars going down on a decentralized mesh network,
I would be screaming through the fucking roofs.
I wouldn't stop talking about it to anybody because that's the most important thing.
You have hit the nail on the head, you know, but we're on X.
So when I pull over people to X for wave wars, I also brought them over to fucking Elon and all this political dumpster fire that happens on the For You page.
While I could just bring them to their website.
And it's just unfortunate that the circumstances have caused the platform as a whole to not be as easily onboardable.
not be as easily onboardable right like that's the other thing it's like i've been telling a
That's the other thing.
bunch of people about wave wars but i'm not like most of them haven't joined twitter space so
they're not going to come in and do that for the first time yep like i got a lot of great homies
that just aren't on x they're not on twitter and like they they have an account they just don't use
it i'm like why and it i asked about their experience i and I'm like, holy fuck, I wouldn't use it either.
I got lucky.
Some random person that we followed years ago invited me to a space, and it was serendipitously talking about Web3 when I had just heard about it scrolling through TikTok.
It was this weird chain of events, right?
And then it was about music, Web3.
And I was all, yo, that relates to my homies that are not on X.
And from that moment, before Jaden, before you, before any of the fucking anything that I experienced here for Web3,
I've been trying to get the homies on X.
They're still not here.
You know?
Like, if it was somewhere else, probably probably they probably have pulled up by now
like if you were on my twitch stream simple my brother's rolling through he's on twitch every
day yeah i mean and twitch stream is also just like different because it's just on crobtab and
you also don't need to log in to access it. Like, that's huge. Like, you do not understand how big of a difference that is than an X space where someone needs to have an account.
Log in, come up to speak, or anything.
But I do want to get it over to Candy because I'm curious about her thoughts here, even though her hand's probably about to fall off.
I literally don't see the hand.
Sorry, Candy.
No, no, she put her hand down.
She was just like, ah.
It's all good, you know.
Gotta get the blood flowing back to my fingertips um
yeah no it's all good um i was what i wanted to say was that um okay so i i totally um
i agree with like completely both points um i do believe that farcaster is extremely valuable
because like i was saying this all before is that it is one of the only places um well it's one of
the only places for a lot of things but it's truly one of the only places where you can get
solana and base just next to each other and the same wallet to where you can literally have USDC, Solana and base all in the same wallet.
And you literally can just go back and forth and in and out and whatever you want to do.
So that I think is huge because anybody who's like doing stuff and it's time for waiverist battle to be able to just be like,
to be able to just be like, oh, no, I'm only going to put in five bucks and test this out
and then have fun and be able to access 20 more dollars or something else right there
is just, I think, amazing.
So I was going to say, I've been taking the WaveWords account like into spaces.
And usually, you know, I'm just like kind of putting one ear in and I'm listening to
while I'm doing stuff at the house but um and I've been wanting to get myself more on Farcaster
but um it's a lot easier to to post when you have something to talk about and that's one of the
reasons why I haven't personally been over there too much is because it's taken me a long time to
even like start making posts myself on X just because like you know you think you have a great
idea of something to post and then you go to write and then you draw a blank and like I
finally got to where enough now I'm in the groups I can got people to talk about and I have things to talk about, but I was going to say that,
I don't know.
We did discuss this about the wallet and like whoever,
but I was going to say I can focus on Farcaster,
like wave wars as far as like the post.
I do want to set it up to where it reflects the same posts,
you know, because like if you're writing the post already and we can reflect it right to Farcaster, then Wave Wars, but I'm wondering how that login, sign-in thing goes down.
If it's all by wallet, or do they have something where you can have community access or something?
Apparently there is a Wave Wars account, and Zal made one the other day.
I still wasn't able to log in because i was confused
you can log in with email you just press the login with email button you type in wave wars
whatever the numbers are at gmail.com it'll send you a link to the email you click on the link and
you're logged in pretty simple okay all right this is this is what i would say though like
after you know hearing everything number one i like x bro at the end of the day i fuck with x bro like y'all might now fuck with x
but i like x bro i like the spaces i like the fact that you know everything can go down in one place
like the only other place that anyone needs to go is the is the wave wars website you know what i'm
saying to have a wave
wars battle and the fact that we can just do it in spaces and everyone's here the artists are here
people that trade crypto are here everyone just everyone's already here you know what i mean and
that's another you know big thing as well and then also i intimately i x is probably the social media
platform that i've been on the most in my life. You know what I'm
saying? And like, just after just studying the way it works, like even when I was just telling
you about the algorithm and being able to see what works, what doesn't blah, blah, blah, all that,
you know, accumulated knowledge is why I've chosen this to be the place to get that initial pop off.
I'm not saying we're going to be here forever. I'm not saying we're going to be here forever.
I'm not saying we're going to be here forever. But like I was saying earlier, just the whole idea of Wave Wars came from being on X, came from interacting on X, came from talking to people on
X, came from building with people on X, came from just a lot of it is X. A lot of it was X has a lot
to do with even how this even came to be alive and a
lot of the people that i serve or created this to serve i met here on x and it's like just there's
a lot of there's a lot of alignment there and you know there's nothing is perfect on this earth
nothing has every possible feature sometimes the founder is a little nuts that happens you know
what i mean but at the end of the day when i weigh all the pros and cons i don't get me wrong i definitely think farcaster
is fire which is why i download downloaded the firefly app still learning how to cross post etc
etc and start getting that engine started and still learning the mechanics of farcaster i'm
not saying i'm not learning it or whatever but like that's why i've chosen x that's
why i fuck with x and i think for the initial growth phase i'm gonna focus on x bro like as
far as getting the initial growth and then once we get to a good place where we there are more
mumbos and we have more mumbles that would go with us anywhere because right now we might have a
couple mumbos but not a lot you know what i'm saying
so like the idea is to build to the point where the product is at a good enough place the product
experience is at a good enough place that people would follow us anywhere you know what i'm saying
so and i think the best place to build that first atomic network that first initial network like
i know y'all hate business gurus or whatever but they
they they made it you know i'm saying a lot of them figured this shit out the guy who wrote they
made it in the past by telling you how to do it i'm not done i'm not done bro i'm talking about
the the the guy who wrote the book the cold start problem that book was released in 2021 and the
guy who wrote it was one of the founders of Uber. He was the growth guy for Uber.
And we see where Uber's at.
And then the other guy who I got the advice about just have one channel, one product, and one channel, one product until you get to $1 million was Alex Formosie.
And he's done great things.
You know what I'm saying like at the end of the day man I you know you could thumbs me down all you want but like those people have
accomplished the things I'm looking to accomplish so I'm gonna listen to at least some of the shit
they say you know what I'm saying and it's so but at the same time they have also accomplished
those things doing like things that I don't think you believe in your values are true and right. So it's like,
there are things that happen and people that can be successful, but like there are trade-offs,
right? I don't know. Like, yeah, homie built Uber and whatever and sent it out in 2021.
But like, that was four years ago. Like already to me, technology is involved in those four years ago like already to me technology is involved in those four years so much that like
it's not the same business world like you're not gonna be able to do what uber did in 2025
like this is just not it's just not how it works right like we're in a different time period
it's not about the technology it's about the philosophy the philosophy of atomic networks and what i just feel like out of all of this you
have now said multiple times you're listening to us but your resulting action is no different than
at the beginning of this space so i don't actually feel heard i mean at the end of the day bro i'm
taking in all information and i'm using my best knowledge and my best but you just said we won't
go over to
farcaster until we get to a million dollars basically i didn't say i didn't say we won't
go i said i'll be posting on both but i'm not gonna probably but you won't put energy and time
and just posting isn't enough oh okay that's the case then i gotta stick with x because that's
that's where my heart is telling me that we need a bill. And like as as the logic that I stated earlier, I think it makes logical sense, man.
I would love to hear like another argument.
But like of everything I said, like it really does make logical sense to get to that first milestone.
Just here on X cooking going on.
So what's your first milestone, though?
Like I said, one one platform, one channel, one product until we get to a million dollars.
And then we can think about scaling to other places.
You know what I'm saying?
Including our own.
Because even if we want to.
Okay, that's fine.
I'm going to let you rock that out with Waveboards while I build out all the other pieces then.
Because that's just not the way I rock.
You can rock it out that
way but like that's losing opportunity I feel um but by all means like go out and go after it like
keep on shooting it here on x I just like I don't know I'm just over x I think is what it is so
you know if you if you love it keep on pushing it forward keep on you know beating the dead horse if you want um by all
beads um but yeah i'm gonna build the website and i'm gonna build us our platform that we're
gonna move over to um because that's the end goal so like i i get it i just feel like it's short term
cited over over a long-term thing that's and that's how i feel yeah well who says who says it's gonna take us a long time
to get get to those goals and then on number two is also like uh yeah like farcasters later i
completely trust you with that process i completely trust that you're building over there because you
have that natural curiosity you have the natural fire in your soul to build over there which is
fantastic and i'm glad we both have different fires in our souls because if i'm building here and you're building there that's two kingdoms
being built bro you know what i'm saying and like not if one kingdom goes to shit but yeah
i mean you think that's the case but i would never say i would never wish that your kingdom
goes to shit you know what i'm saying i'm not wishing that i'm planning for it like it's not that i'm wishing for it i
just feel like it's an inevitability like that's the real i think the reality is you believe x is
gonna be successful and i don't and that's the end goal it's a distribution engine bro for now
for to get to the place like i said yeah but to get to what some arbitrary million dollars i just
feel like there's another distribution mechanism that's there, right?
That's there that I don't know nearly as well that I'll have to have a whole other learning curve.
And then also that I just don't like it.
You really think you know X, though?
I know it way more than VARCASTER.
That's a fact.
And that's because I like X.
That's another thing.
But it's just going to take you that much longer to get the experience
of farcaster when you decide to do it like that's my point more than anything it's like
your reasoning is that eventually we'll switch over to farcaster then why should you not be
practicing how to get good at that now than when you do have the million dollars i mean i get your
your logic of you're just going to be able to magic click your fingers and everyone's just going to move from Twitter to whatever other platform you do.
But I truly believe if you lock in Wave Wars here on Twitter, there's going to be so many people that don't transfer over with you to your thing.
And the cool thing is you do have the website.
So it's like we are still pushing people there, but it's like we're not retaining people there.
there but it's like we're not retaining people there um and i just i don't know i i when when
not if but when twitter changes their algorithm again right there's just gonna be its own new
learning curve and you know it does this or that i don't know i yeah i i just don't see a long-term
future for x but which is why if y'all fuck with us yo y'all need to get the og magnet which has
the email on it so you can uh give us your email essentially for the OG magnet.
And we'll be always able to tell you where we're at and what we're doing, et cetera, et cetera.
Because, of course, we can build our ex all day.
But if you really want to stay tapped in and stay connected, definitely, definitely cop the magnet.
So we have your email and we can let you know what's going down where we go what we do etc etc moving forward
and uh i'm gonna pin that to the top if i can find a tweet if somebody can help me find a tweet
totally fantastic but uh let's say what's up to candy what's up candy
um yeah i was gonna say uh with your with the goal of like the one product and the one staying on X or that till a million.
Um, yeah, I think that like, you know, that's a good, that's a great idea and stuff.
And, um, it's a great goal to have till a million, but in realistically, I think that like we set a goal of meeting, like getting a thousand followers first on x and then um you know we not that we
reassess or anything but then i think that like then we you know we make sure that we add some
other part of reach like i'm still going to go over to farcaster start working on the Farcaster Wave Wars account and do what I can.
But I'm saying I think that we make shorter milestones that we can reach along the way.
Because honestly, everybody just talking about social platforms,
truthfully, I think that YouTube and going live on YouTube is honestly going to be huge for us. I think that the more that we push our YouTube channel, the more people can get on YouTube and watch live wave wars battle when they happen.
I honestly think that YouTube is going to be extremely helpful.
And I also think that TikTok is going to be helpful because they have great
video. Um, I think that Instagram, you know, I definitely, you have the Instagram account.
And in the beginning, when you first open your account is the best time to post on there because
they give you extra, you're new to this platform boost. Let me get you addicted real quick type of boost um so like it's
good to be posted on there um just yesterday i was listening to a podcast and by 2030
jim z who is is currently like 26 right now um that's 26 and then it goes down younger to like to my daughter who's 12.
Gen Z by 2030 will have 12 trillion dollars in purchasing power so that is like I mean that's
the most any like uh young class has ever had in purchasing power. And so I think that when it comes to marketing and finding where we need to be,
I think that we need to make sure that our demographic that we're going after is there.
I mean, yes, we started on X.
We're going to do X.
We're on X.
Yeah, we're going to do X.
We got that.
But most people 26 and under are not hanging out on X.
So I definitely do believe that like we need to,
like you don't want to, you know,
you want to be marketing to the people who are going to be using the product.
So I think that like making sure we post on Instagram,
making sure we post on YouTube,
keeping up daily with X account and then daily like working on Farcaster.
I think we just gotta keep, you know, like that's just,
that's just kind of what we gotta do.
I don't think that we should like forget or rule out or any of that stuff,
uh, in the platforms necessarily.
I feel that. I feel that. feel that but uh something i something i've really been uh
thinking about lately is like the a word called opportunity cost so like if you do anything
then it's like you're not doing something else you know what i'm saying which is i think what
this whole you know argument is well not argument but just what we're talking about kind of revolves
around is like what is the opportunity of cost of focusing on Barcaster as opposed to X and vice versa,
et cetera, et cetera, or YouTube, et cetera. And I think different phases have different things.
Right now on YouTube, I'm so glad we have our live streams and we're able to post something
on YouTube. But if we're going to be completely honest,
like it's not the best that we could possibly put on YouTube. But I'm glad we're putting something. Don't make me wrong. But like we could definitely have better video quality.
We could definitely have a better experience. We could definitely have, you know, a better like
just visual stimulation and et cetera, et cetera on the YouTube. But it's like, we can get there,
but we're like, if we're going to be real with ourselves, like, where are we right now? Like,
where, what do we really have to make these things possible? Because one thing about all
of these platforms is they have people, there's people on each and every one of these platforms
that we talked about, that that's the only platform they going on and they going as hard
as they can to be the best they can on that platform you know what i'm saying and it's like
those those people it's like don't that's who that's who you're going against for lack of a
better word and it's like when when you kind of divide your energy especially in a beginning when
you don't really have a solid solid base it's it's like you're not getting the best of anything.
You know what I mean?
You're getting like little, little, little pools or something.
That's why for certain phases, certain things work.
Like once we're, we have our,
and we got some people that are down to help us, you know,
get these live battles going, you know,
get the live visuals and all the stuff that,
our YouTube is definitely going to be popping.
Don't be like, it's just not, it's not popping yet that our youtube is definitely going to be popping don't be like it's just not it's not popping yet but it's definitely going to be popping even with
the uh thumbnails candy's been putting up there she's already you know 10x the value of our youtube
even within the last couple days but like i'm saying for now for where we're at now and the
resources that we have at hand and what we have, like what we have and what we can do the best with, with what we have.
Me personally, I think, and I'm not saying this for anybody else, me personally, I think we can do the most with what we have right now on X, which is why I'm here and this is why I'm pushing on X.
Because it's like,
I'm just looking at what we have
and like where we're going.
Like I said, once we-
My last comment on this-
Wait, wait, wait.
Let me finish.
Let me finish.
I got you, bro.
Once we start getting like actual revenue and stuff,
we'll be able to do way more.
Me personally, I can't even screen, bro.
My laptop be freezing, be shutting down, my'll be able to do way more. Me personally, I can't even stream, bro. My laptop
be freezing, be shutting down, my internet be cutting off. There's things that need to be put
in place. You know what I mean? But once these things are put in place, then we can actually do
a good job on the venues that we seek to do good jobs on. So I just think it's a process. We're not
all the way there. We build in every day. We add in bricks every day. It it's a process we're not all the way there we building every day we
adding bricks every day it's just the process yo but uh what's up what's up my only thing
with like the end of the day like what you're saying and where it doesn't compute to me
of like you saying like it's the same thing is that i could set if we put the energy and effort towards something like farcaster
we could set it up so that the flywheel is i make a trade i post that on my social feed
someone anyone from my social feed because i made the trade sees that trade wants to get involved
with wave wars clicks on the link sees it in app
in farcaster uses their solana that they can use oh yeah we totally can use that over here on x
right and purchase and actually do your call to action of spending money on your app like that
flywheel of friction is infinitely easier on Farcaster.
And that's the reason why, like, to me, your argument is invalid because you can't do that on Twitter.
But it's not that hard.
It's all just won me over.
You just won me over.
Get on Farcaster.
Because this whole time I thought it was, like, just demographic, you know?
But if there's genuine, like, tech reasons, you know what I mean?
There's a there's other I'm trying to think of the word just things you can do.
You said there's a lot of like native on Farcaster, you know, so I think about it for sure.
For sure. I do have to run. But so I'll give the like point. So like you get the idea.
I do have to run, but so I'll give the like point level.
So like you get the idea.
Essentially what you can do with Farcaster is every single account has a
wallet.
Most people use base,
but because you have the wallet right on your social media,
you can swap your base ETH into Solana right there in the app.
And then they have these things called mini apps,
which is just basically embedded websites. And they embed the websites in the app as well. So you can go to any app as a
mini app. And essentially, when you tap on the mini app, when it opens embedded in the social
media app, it also logs you in with your wallet. So you don't have to go in and sign a transaction
to connect your wallet, connect, sign a transaction, connect your wallet, and then sign a transaction
to prove that you own the wallet. It auto does those two things with mini apps so that you could
literally get the battle link in social media. Not that that's maybe how we want to sell it,
but we want to tell people a little way for us and find it from there. Um, but you can go from
the battle link, click one button and seeing it in your social media,
scroll down to which artist you want,
type in how much you want to buy,
press one button to buy,
and then one more button to confirm that buy.
And then you can press with your fourth button,
click share back to Farcaster.
So like to me, that is,
that process and workflow
is what we want to be going towards rather than, okay, from your X space, go into wavewards.com on your phantom wallet and then go and do it that way.
So I don't know.
To me, like that makes sense.
I'm an automation guy.
I'm like very pro workflows and distributed systems.
So like that makes sense to me why we should be going towards that and that
is something that the more time you spend on that yeah you might not be spending time promoting it
on x but that unlock that you get of the frictionless like flywheel is so much to me that
it's worth the not promoting on x and again that's the last thing i'll say on it you know or again i'll
let you go your way i'll go my mini app dev way.
You know, eventually I'll get to Wave Wars because, like,
if you're not going to spend time, energy, and effort on going over to
Farcaster other than just posting,
I don't see a reason for me to spend time making the Farcaster mini app
right now, whereas I could get better at making mini apps
and other kinds of mini apps.
So it's like this kind of like you know catch 22 of like oh
building on right on that right now we shouldn't be all right so this is my my only that these are
my caveats to what you said number one there's a big gap missing on Farcaster being the place to hold the battles.
So, yeah, you can do all the transactions easily.
But it's like people still have to either go to Twitch or the X-Space.
They still have to go somewhere else to see the battle.
You know what I'm saying?
So, like, to even know what's going on, to even hear the music, blah, blah, blah.
Like, they're missing.
And that's really the most crucial point of the whole thing, being there for the battle.
Yeah, we can post a link.
Yeah, they can click buttons on Farcaster.
Nope.
But are they β
We can put the live stream.
We could live stream right to Farcaster.
People could be chatting right under the live stream.
How?
But is it like how?
That's the last question. I mean they'd have to have a farcaster account just
like they'd have to have an x account it's just like we would have to push our place towards
farcaster instead of twitter spaces and again to me that's a good thing because we'll also
increase our audio quality so but we still have to be on stream correct
like it is it would have to be like a live stream correct
hello yeah man i gotta go like that okay like i i just feel like this has been a
a circular repeating conversation where i've said, I'm going to build on Farcast. And you said that doesn't make sense.
And like, I, again, believe you would spend on that would make sense.
But like, again, you know, you're you're your own person.
That's why we do this the way we do it.
It's like, you know, I can give as much advice as I want.
But like, in the end of the day, you know, you're going to go the path that you think is best.
you know you're gonna go the the path that you think is best so yeah let's rock it out i will
So, yeah, let's rock it out.
continue to show then prove you incorrect i believe in this uh in this conversation but like
yeah i don't i don't think there's if we're if we're as an organization not going to agree
to spend energy on farcaster like it doesn't make sense for for one person too so that's the other
side like it's like i've been
pushing this like angle for the last three months of like pushing pushing pushing farcaster us us
to move over there but you just like haven't budged so like now it's that point where it's
like okay now i shouldn't be doing that either that's cool bro like honestly just like you said
i should do what i feel like is right you should do what you feel like is right and at the end of
the day if you feel like building on podcasters don't go ahead and what you said like is right. You should do what you feel like is right. And at the end of the day, if you feel like building on podcasters, go ahead. And what you said earlier is,
yo, you're going to prove me wrong. That's the energy I like to hear, bro. Because you said
you were going to cook up a mini app and get the flywheel started that you're talking about.
And if you can show me that, bro, if you can prove that that shit is better than X,
I will gladly switch over, bro. But I'm a database, science based guy. So as far as
me and my energy, I'm going to be like, yo,
this is where
it seems logical for me to put my energy.
But if that's what it feels like
for you, bro, I would love to see it.
Trust me, I would be your biggest fan,
bro. So yeah, bro.
If that's, really,
I would just love to see it. But
the idea of me switching strategies, if I don't fully see the vision you're seeing, it doesn't I won't even give the same amount of love and energy to it.
You know what I'm saying? But if you have that, bro, use it, bro. Use it, please.
Because I'm using all the love and energy I have on X, bro.
I even know even though, you know, I know y'all see me posting. I'm in spaces. I'm going hard, bro, because I love it, bro.
And I see the blame, bro.
I see the path.
So, yeah, bro.
At the end of the day, it's about what you're mostly inclined towards.
And, like, don't get me wrong.
I do think Farcaster is dope.
It's just I don't feel inclined towards it right now.
But Prism, bro, I see you came up to the stage, man.
Super dev in the building, bro.
What's up, dog?
Happy Friday.
Happy, what is it, flower, flower Friday?
Laurel Friday.
Yo, yo, yo, get some flowers.
Hurricane, always holding the space.
Oh, my gosh.
You know, let's get Zhal some flowers for a challenging hurricane you
know i like that you know you don't want to have just all the headwinds you got to get some you
know get you don't want to have complete smooth sailing you got to have a little bit of rough
turbulence and no worries no worries bro they standard over here bro maybe let me have it
the standard operating procedure in any hurricane is to get into the bunker and get ready, get prepared.
You got to get ready for something shaking.
Sorry if that triggers anybody.
But yes, I haven't been personally in a hurricane, but I've seen it.
Oh, my gosh.
Oh, my God.
Those things are crazy.
So, yeah, don't worry about it. You know, I think there, I think there's some, I see, you know,
like been watching and research. I think you have to research as everybody has to do, you know,
don't go jump into something right away. You've got to, you got to do some, especially with a
tech shift, right? I've been doing some research with Third Web, like what are they doing with
Farkaster? How are they, you know, cause they're, they're, you know, supporting many apps, right?
So they're like the infrastructure provider, right? So we got to kind of look at what they're doing. We don't have, I mean, we're small, independent devs that we don't have the capacity, we don't have the manpower, people power to really handle like major tech, technical shifts very easily, right? Like, so we need, we need the tools, we need the help and support. So yeah, I think we're going to see some of that. I think I'm chatting with them and they had some
templates and stuff, so we'll see. But obviously that's if you're using third web. And then the,
I think there's also, you know, you can do it from scratch and you can follow the guides. They have
a ton of guides too. And I you know with with farcaster protocol being
supported with um uh the coinbase wallet in the mini apps being you know i mean i got the beta
and i actually saw farcaster show up on the on the coinbase uh app or the base app whatever
oh you have the base app yeah yeah you can ask me i i got it. And yeah, it says Farcaster right there. So definitely Farcaster is coming to the base app. And so that's a lot of eyeballs. So just, I don't know if it will work with Solana as much. I haven't, I'm still kind of getting, I'm still getting my feet wet with it.
eat wet with it. I couldn't figure out a few things. So I was still asking some questions,
but yeah, I think, you know, be curious and don't stay, you know, stay curious, my friends,
stay curious. Don't, don't get stuck because things change all the time. And especially in
this world, you're always on your toes, tippy toes. But yeah, you got to keep delivering,
keep shipping. And yeah, you're going to, you're going to make it. You know, don't worry about the,
there's going to be about a thousand things
that come at you.
Make sure you just keep good notes.
Good, you know, keep a journal.
Keep your thoughts, you know, write it down.
I think that's something we don't do enough of.
We don't write it down or journal it,
put it in a notepad, something,
just to get it out of your head
because otherwise it'll float in there and you'll wake up in the middle of the night and be like, oh just to get it out of your head. Because otherwise it'll float in
there and you'll wake up in the middle of the night and be like, oh my God, oh yeah, that thing.
Yeah, just write it down. Keep a good GitHub issue list or something, just something to get
it out of your head. So that's all I got to say. Happy Friday and stay curious, my friends.
That's my new tagline, I guess. I don't know. Yo, shout out to my G Prism, bro. Shout out to M3, bro.
This guy's also building crazy tech dog. And, you know,
I actually want to ask you, man, now that you brought this up, number one,
how's the base happen? Then number two, as far as building
M3, like, what do you consider is your main distribution
engine and how you go about thinking about that and et cetera, et cetera. That's
technically what we've been talking about all day.
Yeah, so M3 is a
music, I guess we can call it aggregator, music NFT aggregator. It brings
all your music into one place under one application.
Now it's web applications right now,
which is mobile friendly.
And then we've added the Alexa integration.
So you can literally just yell out your favorite music NFT
and she'll play it.
And that's dope.
So yeah, just the ability to kind of just be your own DJ
and listen to your music nfts
uh and we're currently in beta for that so and we we've supported like all the debate like five
evm chains some layer like layer one and layer two um and then for the base app it's um yeah i
think it's it's amazing like what we can do with that. If we have Farcaster,
I think how you maybe collect music NFTs,
I think it's the combination of commerce and blockchain and social,
that whole combination.
I think that's where there's a lot of power.
So how you can quickly...
I thought we could do that with embeddings inside of
x but those didn't work they don't work so well I mean they do work you can get embeddings to work
but they're a little tricky on x so making it a bit easier to do on the on these other platforms
are helpful I think to get kind of show the X platform, like, hey,
this is where we really want commerce, social commerce to go. And we're going to see like this,
you know, the wallet account connection. I think other social networks in other countries actually
do this. Like, so I think now we're just seeing it, you know, on the blockchain, which is great.
you know, on the blockchain, which is, which is great. So I don't know. Anyway. But this,
this is just my positive outlook on it. Don't, this is not financial advice as always. And,
you know, just, you know, do research, stay in tune. These spaces are great to listen and
hear people's perspectives. I love the, I love the headwinds into the hurricane.
That was pretty fun to listen to. I got my popcorn.
Yo, yo.
Damn, thanks for the financial advice, Prism.
Love you.
Yo, shout out to Bubbo.
Yeah, Bubbo, I got you on Co-host next time, bro.
But, yeah.
Wait, Co-host?
I didn't say nothing about that.
You're good.
But, no, no no just because just because
you you be giving us a good shit bro but uh either way man shit i'm giving shit now that's what you
think it is all right hurricane enough said out to listeners fuck you just kidding love you
love you so much and uh who gets who gets the other special shout out before i leave it's prism it's gotta be prism
right i just need to tap in with prism the fuck is he doing i feel like if everybody in the world
were able to like poof for like a minute and become prism for like one minute and then poof
back into themselves we would have an entirely different world like future minute and then poof back into themselves, we would have an entirely different world,
like future ready and just complete utopia.
So I'm going to tap in with you a little bit into your page
and just what the fuck you're dealing.
So love you and love everyone else, of course, and myself.
I'll talk to you fucking whenever and now, I guess, you know,
time to construct me.
Shout out my G-Bombonious, the great, bro.
Always coming through all some great shit, bro.
Yeah, hope you drive safe and all of that, man.
But there is some people we got to say what's up to in the space.
We got a legit solo breezy and my G-Thai revolution came through, man.
Let's say what's up to our people, man.
Yo, it's been hot in the space today, man. Let's say what's up to our people, man. Yo, we've been, it's been hot in the space today,
bro. Y'all see that little
flame thing next to the 11 people that joined
this space, bro? It's been hot
in this motherfucker. But let's say what's up to
Legit, bro. How you feeling, dog?
I know it's been a minute, but as you can see, you know,
we was talking. What's up, bro?
What's up, Hurricane?
We out here with Wave Wars, wars man I've just been listening and you know
you're the awesome for real for real happy Friday to your shout out to everybody on stage and
listening you know I just you you know you invited me up on stage you can see no you know so shout
out to you guys hope you all are doing well
how are you doing hurricane yeah it's been a while i've just been busy man it's been a busy week
um a bunch of stuff i don't know but hopefully the weekend is a lot easier you know just you
know chill a bit but um regardless you know we stay grinding every season so shout out to you hurricane
shout out to you man too legit to quit in the building bro always good to see you man and love
appreciate all the love on the tl bro like you and mad showing love so big big big big big shout
to you good to see you in the space and finally hear your voice, man. So yeah, shout out to Legit, bro. Definitely peep him, man.
Great energy all around.
Let's say what's good to RG.
Solo breezy, taking it easy.
What up, dawg?
Give me one moment.
I've got to step right in the side.
I'm getting traffic where I'm out.
I'm outside in real life, people.
One second.
No, he's in traffic traffic i hope you don't
walk in traffic bro but yo yo stay safe man stay safe die revolution head of the coc and tiktok
at this point what's up let's go big love to you my friend how's it going happy friday
to you my friend how's it going happy friday happy friday bro we bobby man how you feeling man
god damn
yeah i'm good thank you bro sorry i jumped in so late i've had a super busy day today
uh say that like i don't have a busy day every day but no it's good to see you guys smashing it
as always uh good to see you legends um i was just laughing um mumbo was uh absolutely legendary and
uh appreciated the uh the financial advice from uh prism as well i'll definitely be acting on
that immediately i'm just kidding i'm just kidding i'm just kidding uh no it was uh
you guys are awesome.
It just makes my day to see so many legends collaborating, working, building, showing up.
You know, that level of discipline that people have for their everyday life added into Web3.
How can you not eventually thrive?
So, yeah.
No, I appreciate you guys.
And thank you for letting me jump up as well, Hoverkane.
I appreciate that, Broska.
Easily, bro. Like, you can literally jump up anytime bro as long as you got legs feel free to jump up bro but yeah shout out to my g thigh dog shout shout out to everything he's
doing with the coc man absolutely incredible bro bringing people together peep his spaces bro
always interviewing fire ass people dog and peep his
tiktoks bro super positive bro like if you feeling down throughout the day you see one of his tiktoks
i swear to god you're gonna feel better bro but yeah shout out to my g thigh man but uh yeah uh
we should be closing the space soon but i i do want to remind everyone like just as mumbo said
we just uh we just pinned uh something to the top. Wait, where'd it go?
What have we done? Okay, yes, yes, yes. I actually pinned it twice. Golly, I pinned it and Zal pinned
it. But we pinned the link to the OG magnet. And essentially what it is, is like collectible
letting us know who the OGs are. But essentially all it is, is you adding to our email list.
That's really what's happening. So if you are on our
email list, we'll be able to tell you wherever we go in and stuff, you know, because of course,
we plan to expand as always and continue to expand and continue to do dope ass stuff.
And we just want to let the people that care know. So if you want to be sure and, you know,
just in case Elon shuts us down or some shit or close our ex or some crazy shit happens,
you know what I'm saying?
We always can talk to our people.
And that's how, you know, we'll be able to talk to them because can't nobody take your email list.
So, yeah, that's why we got that up there, along with other stuff that we plan to do with it.
But, yeah, definitely, definitely got to let folks know about that.
And then also we got a battle coming this Sunday.
This Sunday, first ever live traded beat battle in human history with the web 3
legends bro one versus creme beats bro so hype for this one bro like these dudes have been
and web 3 music for so long have innovated in so many ways dropped so many dope ass projects
and now you know i'm saying they're the first ever beat battle to ever exist in human history
unless you know they got some you know wave wars in japan that's going on that we have no idea about
or something but uh for all i know bro it's the first ever live traded beat battle in human history
so we definitely finna get it lit bro i used to watch beat battles i used to binge them shits bro
like for hours bro and now you know we hosting the first ever live trading one,
man. Life can really get beautiful, bro. Life can really get beautiful. Always follow your dreams.
It's always going to turn out even better than you can imagine. So never stop, bro. Never stop.
But yeah, that's a whole nother tangent that we get into on a whole nother day. I'm so glad. Thank
you for everyone coming in and giving your points. I love, I love so many of the critiques, you know,
about how we plan on growing wave wars and the distribution strategy, whether we should use X,
Sparcast, or whatever. The fact that people just even care, bro, to come and like, like talk like
this, bro, that, that means the world, bro. That means everything or more and really put a fire on
my ass to like really just go as hard as i can to
build bro when i'm when i'm telling you bro i'd be awake at the wee hours of the night making
threads making posts making flyers making everything i could possibly make anything that
possibly comes to my mind to to grow what we got going down here wait for us because i really think
it's going to bring a lot of attention a lot of energy to the web3 music space a lot technology that we're building out here, and just a lot of the dope artists and creators that's out
here. So yeah, that's the plan. We're going to keep moving and doing everything we can do.
Check the pinned tweets up top, posted a fire-ass thread as well, a fire-ass picture, bro. Yo,
we going crazy. We going crazy. Shout out to my GZAC, bro. Hope we get to meet soon. Definitely,
definitely would love to talk to you about how to talk to quote unquote normies.
We still working on that.
You feel me?
But yeah, that should be lit as well.
Shout out to my G, Sean, the king of avalanche.
You feel me?
He's going crazy over there, man.
But yeah, space closing in the next 10 seconds.
Feel free to say whatever you need to say.
Space closing in 10. We back Monday. Actually, need to say. Space closing in 10.
We back Monday.
Actually, we back Sunday.
Sunday for the battle.
Krem versus one in the pinned tweets up above.
And then we're going to be back here in this space, as in the vibe says, on Monday.
And we can talk again and see what's going down.
See how we can improve and keep growing, yo.
But, yeah, space closing in the next 10 seconds.
Feel free to say whatever you need to say.
Space closing in 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3.
Shut up, wave wars. 1, 2 out, Wave Wars.
One, two.
Let's go.
Two.
Damn, my computer didn't do it.
Oh, man, that would have been epic.
All right, hold on.
I got to switch accounts.
