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WAX Wednesday | Morning Coffee w/ Tommy
Recorded: July 23, 2025 Duration: 1:08:24Space Recording
Short Summary
The latest discussions in the crypto community highlight significant growth within the Pixel Journey ecosystem, marked by a successful second anniversary celebration, impressive yield opportunities in NFT and DeFi farms, and strategic partnerships that enhance community engagement. Additionally, the integration of AI tools in app development is emerging as a key trend, promising to reshape the landscape for developers.
Full Transcription
Thank you. you oh
oh Sing it now. Hear the other white shade, though it's so mean. Crypto dreams are a slingy scene.
Marketplace magic is the real thing.
Wax is the crown and we all gotta sing.
Sing it now.
What up? Good morning. Good morning, everybody. Happy Wax Wednesday. Shout out, very shout out to the man, Maxie a little bit of music uh to get started hopefully it came through all right and it didn't sound too messed
up maybe next time i'll leave and make sure to unmute when i'm trying to talk here so good
morning everybody happy wax wednesday um i've not got any like specific, uh, specific, uh, specific, uh, theme for this week.
Um, we're going to listen to, uh, reach out to folks who are building a wax.
You want to maybe give an update or kind of just hang out.
Just want to have a cool chill vibe day today with all y'all.
Um, after this space, we'll be heading over to the end of Topia space for the wax news
and drops.
So shout out to everybody here.
Maxie, Byron, Johns, Derek, go peril. I see you walking in a minute. What's up? Good morning, everybody. the end of topia space for the wax news and drops so shout out everybody here maxi byron johns derek
go para as you walking in memet what's up good morning everybody
right um i think we're supposed um i think piga said that he'd be dropping by um to be hearing
some updates about pixel journey they just had their uh second year anniversary last week so very very cool. There's a few more people streaming
into the space and we'll just go ahead and get started in just a moment. If you do want to give
an update or something you've got going on, if you're building on WAX and you are an artist,
you're a new dev, you've got a game project going on, go ahead and request the mic and give us an
update. I'm happy to bring folks up and just kind of hang out and have some coffee i just poured mine so be looking to hear
from all y'all just a moment max if you want to come up do you want to share like what music or what inspired you to make that song you sent me today?
It was pretty good, I got to say.
And there's Pixel Journey as well.
Right on time.
So like I said, if you've been working on something lately, maybe you're thinking about a new idea.
You're a new dev.
I know I had a couple of new devs I've been talking to recently.
I'm thinking about coming over to Wax.
You want to share maybe what you've got working on and what you're working on this week.
Or you just want to chat.
Come on up.
As, of course, I just want to make sure I mention this up ahead in front of it.
Nothing shared by myself from our guests is financial advice.
We're not financial advisors.
We're here to connect and enjoy conversation, chatting with y'all. All right, so let me send an invite. I'll go ahead
and invite over to Pixel Journey, and we'll hear what's going on. What's up, Carly? How are you?
Good to see you
it's like it's like the X might be given it oh there we go journey is it working now yes hello gmgm and happy wax wednesday awesome awesome gmgm uh sounds like piga happy wax
wednesday how are you i'm great i'm continuing the the Pixel anniversary partying this week.
We had our second anniversary just last Friday.
So there's a lot of events and activities going on just about every day for the journey right now.
Yeah, absolutely. Do you want to share some of the...
Well, I want to ask if there's anything that you want to share most excited from the current celebration.
But later I want to ask if there's anything that you you want to share most excited from the current celebration but later i want to ask also or like about the overall journey but what um what are
you most excited right now about what's going on with the events and all you've got going on with
the journey i mean right now i'm mostly excited about the major boost that has been to both our nft farms and our d5 farms you can currently find up around or above
200 apr in a lot of our farms which is pretty pretty great more than more than twice as good
as it used to be we have also got a pretty cool nft reward incentive utilizing the nfc rewards
pretty cool NFT reward incentive utilizing the NFT rewards of TagovSwap, where we have a PXJ WPixel
pair. And for every 10 million PXJ that we get paired up in that pool, then we enable an additional
NFT reward per day. So we just went up today from two rewards per day to three rewards per day.
And then another 9 million PXJ or so staked, then we'll go further up to four NFTs per day.
And these NFTs are at worst pixel ingredients from our collection that have a value of about 20 to 25 wax each.
a value of about 20 to 25 wax each. So that's like almost 100% APR just in NFT rewards from that pair
that you don't usually see as the calculated APR on Tegoswap. Besides that, we also have a bouncy
block coming up Friday and we have maybe a few new templates, maybe an upcoming blend or two that would
be a pity to miss out on.
But if you're ready, if you already have your ingredients simmering and slowly staking for
you on our staking platform, then you might get quite excited at the end of the week or towards the end of the
weekend. That's great. You know, I do want to say one thing. I felt the strength of the
Pixel Journey community this morning when you tagged me in the GM post, and I woke up and I
thought something was broken with all of the notifications tagged me. Everybody is on there
through the GMs. People want to
shout out to you and your community. They're super
engaged and seems like super
active and tuned in to what
you guys have all got going on.
Yeah, thank you
so much. We keep building
on all the fronts, also on X, and
we indeed have
slowly been growing and connecting
with a ton of people there.
Also, a lot of people actually slowly having joined our Pixel Journey community on X
without perhaps even ever have joined our Discord or even knowing about Wax yet.
So we are slowly cultivating and growing an audience from within the Web3 space,
from a lot of different chains out there that we hope to someday get a little bit more onboarded
within our journey and all the mechanics that we also have running on WAX.
But for now, it's just like slowly, consistently keeping them slowly fed with new information and the
activities of the journey along the way and then hopefully someday it will be
enough to get them to make the jump and make that journey begin as well.
Let me ask you, you mentioned you have a lot of people who are just finding the
journey straight up on Twitter and not finding the Discord yet or even jumping on Wax.
Are you able to capture them and are they able to also participate and be part of the community?
Do you feel like there's any maybe like a separation from those on Twitter versus those in the Discord?
I think maybe you kind of alluded to that.
I think maybe you kind of alluded to that.
Yeah, I mean, there's definitely a lot more, like,
WAC-savvy people on our Discord,
whereas on our X community, it's a little bit of the wider Web3 community,
and it's not necessarily there to, I mean,
keep in touch with the Journey community.
It's just more keeping in touch with the project,
or maybe they're hoping to get an a drop someday or i don't know maybe they just want to like
stay in touch with the project until someday the pixel journey might start getting more active on
a chain near nearer them but i mean while we have the opportunity and we are in the whole GM-GM cults and all that, then we might as well use that to hopefully try to introduce them a little bit to some of the mechanics and the opportunities that we also have on Wax. that should be interesting no matter what chain you're on. And maybe something like that could just be enough
to get them to throw a little bit of liquidity
into our Wex and Journey ecosystem
and tap into some of that.
Yeah, solid stuff.
I see it looks like Frye's showing off one of the Pixel.
I think that is one of the Pixel crafting materials
in replies down there.
What's up, Frye? Happy Wax Wednesday. that is one of the pixel um crafting materials in uh replies down there sub fried happy wax wednesday
um piga let me ask you hold on i lost my spot um okay so i was gonna ask you like i asked you what
you're excited for right now now i will i want to ask also like you've been um leading the journey
for two years now that's a big that's a big milestone. Like so many projects
we've seen over the years, they're either a flash in the pan or they're like, like, you know, a slow
burn or they just disappear one day, right? Those are the ones we all hate. But what, what is it
about the journey that you have? What is like the most, sorry, I'm mixing my questions. First, let
me ask you this first for the, so far with the, with the journey, sorry, I'm mixing my questions. First, let me ask you this first.
So far with the journey, what has been the highlight?
If you could pick one or two things that really stood out
that you really remember as like a memorable moment
from your journey these past two years.
Oh, that's been a lot of things.
We have achieved quite a few, I would say remarkable things,
even though a lot of people. We have achieved quite a few, I would say remarkable things, even though
a lot of people around the Wax space might not entirely have realized or noticed at all. But, for example, we had our pixel PFP sale of 10,000 pixel PFPs sell out in just over a month. I think
it was like five weeks. So that pretty amazing i mean we we were just
about aiming for about a month so that was perfect neither too quickly or too slow just about anybody
who was around the ecosystem at least had the opportunity to grab a pixel or five or ten and
and yeah the the price development or the development or the processing of these pixels' later journeys have also been a great success.
Here about just over a year later, from them all mending out and stuff, we have burned or recycled over 21% of them again.
So that's over 2100, actually I think over 2150 pixels that have been forever destroyed.
And for every pixel PFP that you destroy, you get a pixel ingredient pack.
And these pixel ingredient packs then give you some primary pixel ingredients
that you can start developing and infusing with some PXJ
to increase their tiers and their rarity and their staking power.
And then all these ingredients can be staked for, well, right now over 150% APR.
So you're basically more or less secure to get or regain all the PXJ that you spend on upgrading these ingredients
within two or three years of keeping them staked.
But in the meanwhile, there might be some opportunities
where you can also use these pixel ingredients to create following graphs.
So we are going to continue sort of tying our whole
or keeping our journey entirely uh tight together and having having like a highly
deflationary economy even though it seems like pxj has inflated like from basically nothing to
to half a billion tokens out there right now then that that happened like over a couple of years and
over the coming years then the inflation per year will
will of course be infinitely less and and the amount of pixel pfps and red pixel is only
declining for every recycle that happens almost every day so so it's pretty going pretty great
in those ends now another great thing i am also proud of is that the Pixel
Journey bonded the first and only WexFund meme, even on the original $50,000 bonding
target curve. I mean, that's also a cool achievement.
Yeah, that was a big deal. That was before it was down adjusted for more, I don't know,
reasonable collections. You guys hit that. And I think it's the only one too, am I correct? That's what you just said, right?
Yeah, it is the only meme that has ever bonded, but we're also the first.
So that's like a historic meme now. I'm pretty happy about that, even though it's not way up there on the market caps anymore then it it has
been worked into our journey and and gotten its own unique role within the pixel journey
we we paired up over 10 percent of the total supply of king with like 80 million pXJ or something like that, which was at the time over, I think,
150,000 wax worth of tokens that we paired up
and then burned away and burned liquidity positions.
So these paired up liquidity positions
are now collecting fees from every trade
or price differences or upcharge that
happens across most of our journey economy, meaning that every BXJ that is traded or king
or rap pixel even, then there's some upcharge that will earn some liquidity earnings from the volume to these renowned positions,
and as nobody can claim them, then they're essentially getting burned,
slowly adding to the deflationary aspects of our journey. This pair of King and Wax, for example,
pair of King and Wex, for example, which has, I think, over 120,000 Wex paired up.
That one was from the bonding contract of List.WexBund, and that one has already burned over 2,100 Waxway this year as well.
So even though we are a relatively small project, so to speak,
or there's not been the biggest Wax or Pixel bulrush yet,
then we are definitely adding and doing our part in the ecosystem
on a lot of different aspects.
I don't want to come back to you were the first bonded meme token on Wacktell Fund.
That was a big deal.
And I think everyone remembers how many people were at the time were vying for that first title.
That's really a hats off to you.
hats off to you. It's definitely a feather in the cap and definitely something should be remembered.
It's definitely a feather in the cap and definitely something should be remembered.
I was going to ask, like, obviously, usually when I ask, it was like, oh, what's next?
You're right. But you did mention that you're, you're, you're, you're dripping, you got that
faucet dripping the information out to everybody. So maybe instead of asking you what's next, let me
ask you, where is the best place for people who are interested or excited about the journey to find the latest updates?
I assume it's Discord, but what do you think?
Yeah, definitely Discord. I mean, Discord is really where you get into the pixel trenches, so to speak.
Discord is where all the decisions
happen, the
whole entirely, well
more or less the whole journey
is designed hand in hand with
the community as well. So whenever
we have some bigger
ideas or decisions or
choices to make, then
oftentimes we'll bring them up
in the community and some
discussion channel or
on the WexRox channel or, the wax rocks channel or i mean that's a
lot of different places there and depending on where the topic fits in then we usually try to
get some feedback from the community along the way so definitely if you want to hear about the latest
even if you want to hear about the ideas before they become the news,
then Discord is the way to go.
And yeah, we are always most welcoming of anybody there.
We also have like an AI bud, Discord bud, that we have trained with,
or we have loaded him up with all the Journey information and a lot of information about
Wax as well.
So anybody with any
questions can, at any
point, always just head over
to our Discord,
JourneyPixel
bot, and then ask him
anything. And he will always respond
to you quite quickly, and if
he doesn't then somebody
else got the answers that's that's solid i want to i've been kicking around the idea of something
similar um with a wax discourse because i know i like to give robert a break but um i haven't gotten
around to doing it yet i'll say that was do you find that was something that was um really difficult
i don't know like what is like your level of like coding or like working with the eyes? It's
something how like how we do rate it? How easy is it set up like a discord bot for your community?
Or what was your experience setting up just your community is probably a better question I should
ask to you. Thank you. I would say that part is extremely easy.'s called community one and it basically offers you the whole
ai agent package just like a plug and play thing where you you basically drag and drop a text file
over there that you have filled up with all and any information that the bot might need and then the platform basically handles the rest. I do have a little bit more experience with
AI. I'm like a software and design engineer and I'm along with a few things and I have actually
had like university courses in AI almost 10 years ago now.
So I know a little bit about it.
But I wouldn't say it's worth to make your own bot from scratch.
There are so many options, so many tools and kits out there that you can just tap into. And this bot I'm using, for example, is even free.
We are not paying anything for this tier of AI support on our Discord now,
which is amazing compared to many of the other options out there.
But I've tried a few, and this one this far has been the one I've liked a lot the most.
I would advise anybody to check it out.
Solid.
All right, if you're looking for an AI Discord bot, that's easy to drag and drop,
DM Pega.
I won't have him show this other bot here, but reach out to Pega.
I know I'll probably be asking you about it, Pega, after this.
I had something else I wanted to ask.
Yeah.
When you, let me take it all the way back, right?
So this two year anniversary was last Friday.
When, are you able to like kind of share a little bit
or a little insight to like, what were you thinking?
What were your plans?
What were you like, or your feelings maybe?
Like when you were first setting out
to launch the journey two years ago,
what were your expectations?
What did you want to accomplish?
Would you like to share a little bit
of that with the audience today?
Yeah, I mean, the initial vision for the journey was just to create
a friendly community that had these shared interests in exploring and learning about all the different projects, tools, and opportunities of all of Webtree. And then, I mean, have some common goals or shared mission there to accomplish.
And that was, among other things, onboarding and creating many of these onboarding materials
that, at least in my opinion, have often been like a little bit of a lack,
not only on WAX, but anywhere in crypto, really.
I mean, things move so quickly that things usually end up
not getting updated quickly enough, at least.
I mean, it runs out of date, and that doesn't really help anybody.
and that doesn't really help anybody.
So we tried to make this journey
just like rather an educational-focused one
instead of a financially incentivized one.
So the gains or the most important gains of the journey
might not always be the APR, at least in dollar value,
but it is also the lessons and the experiences you have along the way.
There's a lot of people along the journey that barely knew what a liquidity pool was a couple of years ago.
And now they're experts. People didn't know what a meme was or what a wax fund was or what our wax is.
was or what a wax fun was or what our wax is.
And we are trying to basically incorporate
all the different features and opportunities
that we see some great value in
so that people can try them out.
We can promote them to users outside of the wax space.
And yeah, we get to distribute some some of our pxga and nfts with the
different options along the way so yeah that's uh that's like the the initial vision or or idea
of a head and journey then of course i myself being an avid photographer, likes collecting pixels out there in the wild,
and I would like to have some way to gamify the distribution of these
photographies, or other people's art even. It could also be others.
could also be others but um so for that i've also tried to prepare and design the journey as a as a
tool to do that and uh yeah we're going to get into more of that this uh coming year we have a
lot of collectibles coming out that will be a lot of blends a lot of crafting and a lot of staking, but I hope that somebody will be
up for it all.
Aside from
these upcoming collectibles,
we also have a couple
of minigames planned
at least.
Those will also be quite exciting and there will
be some small opportunities
to use these ownerships
or these collectibles
that we accumulate along the way.
And the community is of course always most welcome to help contribute and share their feedback and ideas towards all of that.
Solid.
With that outlook of finding a shared group of people,
and also as it's kind of evolved educationally,
was there anything that,
from while you've been doing this journey,
was there anything that you did not expect that happened?
That you weren't thinking of at all and it kind of hit you out of left field and was like a really positive good advancement for the journey?
Is there anything like that?
Was there anything that happened you weren't expecting that was negative or what was the result?
Oh, that's a good question.
If I got to be honest, we have never been lucky.
All the OGs know it.
The journey has had a lot of setbacks.
And I almost don't want to get started on all of that.
But, I mean, back just...
Maybe a positive one, then, if you don't want to get started on all of it.
I don't want to kick down and drag through the mud, of course.
I don't want to do that.
I'm not actually sure.
I'm positively surprised about the development in, for example, our Pixel PFPs.
I mean, our Pixel PFPs, they started out minting for 35 WECs, which was about $2.
And now the flow of them is around or above 220 WECs, which is almost $5.5. So, I mean,
one could say that one upside of Wx having gone down in value per wex
since our minting of the pixels
has been that the pixels themselves
actually managed to not only maintain their wex or their dollar value,
but more than double it.
And now we have our pixel PFPs
to organizable via rwex.com or the dot io and that means you can use your nfts
in defy and the the rep pixel i mean it's it's relatively fresh there's not that many
on on wax yet that has played around with this organization of nfts but it's
pretty neat in my opinion and uh already now we we have over a hundred thousand wax
of uh liquidity or tbl for our pixel pfps meaning that there's always instant liquidity available out there, no matter if you're buying or selling Pixel PFPs,
to be able to buy or unload quite a few of them
without changing the price too much.
So that's pretty amazing.
I'm very happy about the success of RepPixel this far.
And how, I far. It almost solves
the only problem of NFTs
which used to be
there not being enough liquidity or
there not being entirely liquid.
So that's very
exciting to me.
Then generally
just the journeys
ahead. I'm looking
forward to hopefully we could see some more hype
than bullish markets.
We might even see, well, the summer is quickly getting on,
but I'm still hoping for a little bit of a pixel summer.
So we keep branding and we keep journeying on.
And yeah, there's a lot of exciting things to come.
Solid stuff.
I wanted to, you mentioned Arwax, and that's, for those who are not, and correct me if I'm wrong,
Arwax is a platform set up by NFT Hive Guild, I believe, that allows you to take NFTs and tokenize them into fungible tokens, correct?
Yes. Yeah. nfts and tokenize them into fungible tokens correct yes yeah um so how like would you describe was it um a difficult setup um when you're setting it up was it um was it hard to figure out because
i know that when the first launch i believe um there was a bunch of alien world uh nfts were used
um as when i played with it for a little bit but I didn't really dig into it too much more than that
because I'm not an avid Alien Worlds player, so I didn't really dig into it too much.
So would you mind sharing a little bit of what it was like setting it up?
Was it difficult? Was it hard? What did you like? What did you maybe not like?
If you don't mind, Higa.
Well, yeah, you're right. It is from from NFT Hive, and that is generally how it works.
I think one of the first doubts, well, I had this whole idea that I wanted to let Pixel PFPs become so recognizable,
and we would have this rapid Pixel long before our wax was even announced or started development, possibly.
long before our wax was even announced or started development possibly.
So I think we already had this idea that every pixel PFP should be worth one wrapped pixel token.
And certain traits such as our pixel pets or wax rock traits
would multiply the value of that pixel PFP by some amount.
So just going by that initial design, that is pretty simple.
And I mean, it is not that complicated to learn the RWAG platform with.
Then I just set that up with the appropriate weights for the different trades.
And yeah, it was a little bit scary at the first, like right at pushing the transaction as anything on chain usually is.
You don't always know if you have left any possible typos or, I mean, you never know with being the first time trying something new.
But it all went entirely smoothly.
And yeah, I would recommend anybody to check it out.
It is a great tool and a great utility for any NFT collection, I would say.
and a great utility for any NFT collection, I would say.
But it does have perhaps some risks or some considerations
that needs to be making sure that you are careful about.
Because otherwise, if you give one asset too much weight,
then you might suddenly have one asset being redeemable for a hundred tokens
where another one might not be so that yeah that takes a little bit of capital work
i think um for someone who is maybe just focused on making nfts maybe they don't want to add a token i think
it's like maybe helpful and an easy way to add it on but like you just said you have that caveat
you have to think about even though like you have to really think about all like if you're going to
have um what is it the traits the different traits of the pfps if they'd be worth maybe more or less
and setting it all up correctly is uh definitely can be daunting for sure
yeah thank you for the insight yeah no problem i i would say if you try it out then maybe consider
doing it like we do that and just focus on organizing a single series or a single template
to begin with then you can always expand from there but if you try to if you have like i know some collections
out in the ecosystem might have thousands of different templates and if you already have that
many templates and you try to like rwex to organize your whole collection i would imagine that there
could be like a risk of some mistakes or possible errors to be made.
So, yeah, everybody should be careful trying new things.
Yeah, there's going to be, you should get your basic, you know, your due diligence, right?
You do your little bit of basic due diligence for you to start.
That's solid. Thank you for the insight, Piger. I appreciate that.
Let me also welcome to the stage Zeke on Christia.
Ezekiel,
you had your hand up first. Do you have a question for Piger? Do you want to have
something to share? And then we'll go to Christaya. Ezekiel, you got the floor.
Good day, good day.
Pardon, I was listening.
Yeah, I'm ZQ.
Can you hear me, yeah?
I was listening on the space, yeah.
Yeah, we can hear you.
Yo, pardon, I was...
I set a reminder and, you know, I said i need to come up here uh yeah i'm
contribute to the space here anything was blockchain i mean you know even though i came
late i said i got to come up as long as that was blockchain yeah that's literally why i'm here and
i'm literally enjoying the space yeah so uh put this to you guys. Literally, I don't have much questions for now.
So, that's all I have to say for now.
Yeah, I'm stable.
I'm a believer of course.
Yeah, thank you, guys.
Thanks for coming and saying, hey, what's up, Zika?
It's good to see you.
Okay.
Buenos días, Cristaya.
Hey, what's up?
What's up, guys?
Happy Once Wednesday.
Do you hear me?
Yeah, I hear you sound great.
Thanks for joining.
Hey, Piga.
It's like, how are you, Tommy?
Welcome, everyone.
So, yeah, so a chill space with Tommy.
Nice.
So I just wanted to share with you guys um and we've been working with my team and mostly marcus he's now um into telegram i power stuff and we make um virtual assistant
and everyone can test in a new virtual assistant that we made it is on telegram so if you want to go and you can check
here on ads sayuria waifu she's really cute you can go to the s profile and then you can jump
into telegram it's a ipower virtual assistant that we made available 24 7 you can chat with her and it's really cool i ask her every day
and i'm a sagittarian so i asked her to tell me what my autosco is gonna be today and she responds
me and tell me what is gonna be my day and all that so you can talk to her you can also ask her to make
image for you and that's it just talk to her you if you can help us to test her it will be cool
feedback is welcome and if you have any questions join our discord do me on keeper studios and from 3d carrender al-gil and just wanted to share that
it's something really cool because every day is now everyone is making something new every day
and if you help us testing it will be nice i i'll show you if you have a wife if you have a girlfriend tell her
it's a bot she's not real it's your testing you're helping because
yeah she can be really like like really like oh my love how are you
i i did try it out a little bit it is a little bit um i did feel a little bit
embarrassed i guess maybe because i'm talking it's just silly like this and it was the thoughts of
hearts and stuff um thank you kistar so much for coming and sharing what is um we heard pika talk
about setting up like a bot um for Discord and there's so many different options
and AI plugins that are available.
What has been the experience?
I know you mentioned that Marcus has been working on it
and coding it.
What have you kind of seen and learned
as far as having been able to work like this with AI
where you're making like your own AI kind of companion?
What has been your experience?
Well, it's really interesting and I can tell you that the sky is the limit right now.
So if you had an idea, you're sure can make that possible, even of your own.
So really, the sky's the limit.
And that is also like a curse because it's like you want to be
so productive like i had this idea and this idea can be real and this idea is also good and also
can be real and you are in the middle between all this idea and you might get confused and don't know where to start.
I think that's most of the devs that right now that are working with this AI, bots, and whatever.
And I think this is one of the problems
that they are facing right now.
Like there is so many options,
so many stuff that you can do
and you want to be 100% productive every day.
And sometimes you need to relax a bit.
And trying to focus on one thing.
That's real big.
Focusing on one thing is definitely,
I think is important.
That's always been something I've tried to do
with teams that I've led is pick one main thing and become perfectly expert at it
and make it your best thing. Yeah, I think AI is
definitely the future, but it's not like
it's going to take our jobs. Of course, it's not going to take our jobs.
It's going to give you more tools to make other jobs
to be more productive.
If you already are like a product person, you're going to be 10 times more productive with this.
But definitely, if you are not a product person, you need to make sure to be one right now because time is clocking.
I know exactly. I know exactly. You know,
I think Williams said something similar and don't quote me because I'm just
going off the top of my head of something I saw on Twitter.
You were saying exactly what you said.
There is going to be everyone when something new and there's like a,
I'm going to screw up the quote
so i'm just tell you now i apologize but when you have a new technology that like is groundbreaking
like um uh maybe a mobile mobile internet or even just the internet itself worldwide web um
television radio there's a lot of things all we can see right now is what are we going to lose
we're going to lose this
we're going to lose jobs like no one's no one's going to want art no one's going to like this
anymore but then we can't or it's harder maybe because we're designed to look out for things
that threaten us it's harder for us to imagine all of the good things and all of the new things
that we have no we can't even fathom what these new things are going to be right for all we know ai becomes super mainstream takes over the world and we all had get a job taking
care of ai somehow who knows i like i don't know i don't know it could be like fallout you had a
ai assistant in your house and it's the housekeeper it needs everything and your focus and and being really productive for the i don't know
your country for the humanity i'm kind of a little right now but we don't know
no i think i think it's hard to tell right none of us are prophets here so
it's it's definitely difficult to say for sure i think it's exciting though it's definitely difficult to say for sure. I think it's exciting, though. It's definitely a fun part.
Like, you are in this role.
Just enjoy the role.
Enjoy.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, thank you so much, Christaya.
We had a couple more speakers hop on.
Let me say welcome. let me hold on sorry
hold on hold on let me say what up though to break man what up though sorry just i talked over you
go ahead i'm sorry i'm sorry i just want to say that i'm sure breakman is here because he's gonna
talk about all the stuff that he's gonna make yes yes Yes, yes, yes. Breakman and then Hansenmar. What up, though,
Breakman? What up, though?
How's it going, everybody?
How goes it?
Going all right so far, Breakman. Thanks for coming.
Yeah, man. We're all here on
Twitch. We're listening in. Yeah, shouts.
We do our weekly
spaces as well, so we're going to start
in 15 minutes, me and Christia here.
So anybody's also
welcome to jump on there same for every wednesday yeah man this ai stuff so without jumping into a
giant story but 14 years ago or so i had an idea for an app it was called consumer break that's
actually when the name and the logo came into fruition back in 2011.
Holy moly.
And I spent a long time, a long, long, long time and lots and lots of money to try to develop this app because I'm not a coder.
I'm not a developer.
I'm just an idea guy and a design guy.
guy and a design guy. And I went through a plethora of struggles and bad times trying to find
developers and working with them and all this and that without going into the story. And here a few
weeks ago, I'm playing around with this AI called the Base44 and it specializes in apps. And I made
not only that same app that I've just talked about but also like 10 other apps
all in one day for $20 uh it absolutely blew my mind away so I just uh I'm in la la land making
apps now at the moment I'm not because I'm I'm super focused on anftopia coming up which I'll
talk about in a second.
That's three weeks out.
Let's go.
But man, here in a month or two, I think I'm going to have a lot of fun just making AI apps
and playing around with them on stream too, like building them with the viewers and playing
games.
And that's just so fun.
Actually, when I was a kid, i would kind of fantasize about that like
i would want to make games and i would want to just type on the computer what i wanted to do
and just start playing and then here two weeks ago it kind of was like that for the first time
ever and for me it was like what the crap it's like i'm typing what i want i started i starting
to play it and then i just type what the bugs are, what feature changes I want.
It instantly just makes those changes and I keep going and thinking about the past 14 years and what that would take.
Like this prompt that I did here that did it in an instant used to take like $5,000 in three weeks and still not be satisfied with it because that's how dev can be.
and still not be satisfied with it because that's how dev can be so it's just it's crazy times and
as far as creative people go i mean this is just it opens the door of course not just coding it's
lots of lots of things and yeah i think there will be a lot of jobs that like teams that we've
talked about this but like teams of 10 might turn into teams of one plus AI.
But there will also be other jobs that open and and the people that are now playing with it are the ones that might turn into that one with AI.
So just kind of think that's what I'm thinking about, because I also have a job, too, and which also would be replaced by ai eventually it's
drafting so it's like i'm also thinking about this but uh i think it opens up the door people
that were not that are creative and they couldn't do things like me like coding or also artists
people that couldn't are not artistic and don't do music. Now suddenly they can, at least at some level, create stuff.
I'm kind of in love with it, but I also understand that it's like a gray line, too, on different fronts.
So you just got to take it as it comes.
I think it's a heck of an awesome tool.
So anyway, I'm super stoked about what's coming, and I look forward to making more apps later this year.
But until then, y'all, NF-Topia is coming in three weeks.
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Yeah. Sorry. I failed. That was dead on arrival. Breakman.
I have one question for you. Um,
you mentioned building all these things with AI and for someone,
my immediate thought when you said, when you were talking about it was,
well, if I just wait a few more years,
I can just tell the AI the game I want and it'll build it for me with nothing.
So let me ask you this. Is it, do you sometimes, does the feeling of what you looked and looking
at what you can do with AI now, does it discourage you at all? Or does it encourage you?
I mean, it encourages, like I just said, like it took me, I have a crazy, crazy, long, tragic story just to get an app launched.
And here two weeks ago, I was able to just start playing and make it.
So in my world, this is insane.
I wish I had it 10 years ago.
Everything would have been different.
But yeah, also, I mean, years from now, it's also going to be different. So what we do right now is also going to be different from years from now, even like months, even at the end of the year, this year.
I think it'll be even easier to make apps or games the way you want.
Now, I'm kind of using a specialized AI right now.
It's called Base 4.4 four and it's specialized for apps.
And it's also all housed inside the base four,
four.
They host,
they do everything.
They do all the hosting and lots of like everything they handle it.
So that does create some limitation depending on what you're making.
And then the,
I mean,
I think it'll just get easier as it goes,
but it's because I also tried to do some
AI code work with like Grok and and pasting code back and forth and stuff that was a lot harder so
but I think it'll all get way easier and yeah it's pretty much it's especially with this base
4.4.1 it's very similar to how I envisioned as a kid just like typing what I want it makes it
it's not perfect the first time but then it's like then I just keep prompting, just like typing what I want. It makes it, it's not perfect the first time,
but then it's like, then I just keep prompting it. I tell it what, uh, what the bugs are that
I found and what I want to change. And it just changes it. And I don't even look at the code at
all. Um, and you know, for years, I, I kind of hit myself for not learning code. Granted,
you can't do everything.
Goes back to what Christia said earlier. We need to relax and focus on one thing. Are you kidding?
You kidding me? I don't think I've ever heard of doing that. But like for years, I learned how to do other things, marketing.
And here I am. I'm a streamer. I make make design I make all this stuff that I do I never learned how to code actually develop and that was a huge setback for me for years and years trying
to get a developer to do that and and yeah and then now it's like that that barrier seems to be
going away and that not only for coding that could be many things so i think uh
i think that's a good a good net overall especially when you've been through like
hardships like i have and um and have to go through all that all that spending time and
money and stuff so yeah um i guess the future's. We don't know what the future looks like, but I think it's a net good.
I think everybody that's not plugged in is going to have a harder time, unless they have a blue collar job.
There's a lot of jobs that won't be affected.
I think blue collar jobs that require a manual.
Granted, there's also automation of robots is also a factor too. But people that are
using computers and stuff and they're not digging into the AI, they're the ones that are going to
be a little bit left behind. I think in a year or two years, three years, we're going to want to do
what we can to learn and use the tool. Like I'm not just for coding, uh, app vibe coding, but I'm
using the tools for lots of things. I'm having it write things. I'm having it brainstorm with me.
It's creating outlines. It's do lots and lots of things that I'm using AI to just kind of speed run,
uh, my day to day. Uh, now 10 years ago i used to put even more
of a lot even more time and effort into into things it's like these days uh i just don't
have it quite in me i needed a little more rest than i did 10 years ago but it's like by using
the ai it speed runs things for like in that like for example writing things like an overview our business plan of just
things like that suddenly I can have that now instantly I can just type what I want write a
business plan boom the whole thing is there and that used to take like months to even do so or
like anything emails like I'll go into the into grok and I'll just type bullets of what I want
like I want to I want I want to write this, you know, this formal thing.
These are the information I want in it.
Boom.
And then it does the entire thing.
So it's like it just skips all of that writing time.
That's another just example of how to use it.
So exciting times overall, I think.
Solid stuff, Breakman.
Thank you so much.
And I don't want to cut into your space,
so I'm going to cut you off right there.
Make sure you're tuning in to the NF Tophia.
It's going to be kicking off in about five minutes.
I want to give Handstand Marv and Pantheon
about five minutes each as well,
and then we'll wrap up this space
and we'll join you at yours.
Breakman, thank you so much for joining.
Thanks for the insight, too.
I appreciate you
handstand marv the rampage
what's up bro you can call me rampage all day makes me feel strong you know
It makes me feel strong, you know.
Say again?
It makes me feel so strong to say that.
What's going on?
How are you?
I'm all right, man.
As you can hear, I'm having a laugh here.
Fairly long day, to be honest, you know.
I work construction, so to be fair, honest you know i work construction so it's uh that to be fair the the ai
topic is actually interesting because there's nothing it can take away from a business i do
anything i did was was restaurants when i when i was young i did like a uh cooking apprenticeship
i did servicing i mean like front of front of house if you want to call it that
way, I've done delivery, all kind of shit jobs to be fair and sometime someday I just came across
a carpentry and I thought oh this is a cool job to be honest you know. It's noisy. I don't really like treading on a small space, you know.
So, like, doing in the workshop isn't my thing.
So now what I do is a lot of fitting, like windows.
I do guardrails and go do some welding, stuff like that.
AI can't teach you that.
There's nothing it can take away from something as you just
need to experience it.
In coding, maybe it'll evolve as of today.
You see C++, which is the wax type of coding for contracts.
My mate's been telling me, yeah, you can prompt the thing to kind
of take a bit of a load off from you, but you can't rely on it.
It's actually pretty crappy on that end.
The front end dev is going to tell you, ah, I can save so much time for it.
It's going to do a whole frame of of uh of my ui and and then he he's just going to
have to just make sure everything's good and then rework a few things but in some cases yeah uh ai
is going to be a good thing for sure it's interesting to to you know um learn the learn
the tool and learn the skills around the tool and it's going to be helpful for a bunch of people.
I can appreciate that.
But I've tested AIs for a few years.
I mean, like for the few five years back and for a few years then,
I thought there were funny chat bots most of the time, really, to be honest.
And, yeah, they can learn stuff and go on internet and start finding
things, but they've got no good memory. To be fair, I'm not a fan of AI. I don't appreciate
it much as myself. It doesn't bring anything to me. It used to be fun because you were
discovering a new toy, basically. But yeah, I can appreciate the
conversation is an interesting topic. But initially I asked for speaker because Pigga
was talking and honestly it's been a moment for now so I kind of lost track of why I wanted
to say whatever. But I do know indeed they've been a very discovery,
like journey, journeying on, you know,
just seeing what's there.
And Pigo seems to have been on blockchain for a while.
So yeah, the dude knows a few things
and he's just sharing with people.
I think that's pretty nice to be honest.
And yeah, you know, like generally speaking's just uh just for a chill uh yeah what's going on
with uh what's the latest update from defy mining if you want to if you want to share i don't want
to twist your arm if you have something you want to share talk about it on Consumer Breaks.
Okay, yeah.
So, honestly, I'm not going to go through it once and then go again.
It's boring for me, as most people, unless you really, truly enjoy everything on chain and just go, I like the chain.
And I just like like i don't know
most people just yeah it isn't the thing and and i don't feel like saying it twice so yeah
well i'll talk about it then there's uh a few people here most of them will be there so you
know what if you want if you want to have a chat we'll have a chat there yeah yeah i'll be in that
we'll be in the space too yeah i don't want to i't wanna I don't wanna take break man's thunder's that make sense that's it
yeah let's go let's go I'll see you there perfect as long as you want hey I
just want to add that's a good point from from handstand Marv you know I'm
talking good on that the AI this is all from a prototyping perspective, somebody that doesn't do code.
So I just feel like it's, it's really awesome and fun to make stuff that I
couldn't make before, but as far as like an established product and a business,
that's something that's going to scale and do.
Yeah.
I mean, I agree the AI, at least at this stage, it's not going to cut it.
You, you will have problems that AI cannot fix,
and you will want some developers that know what they're doing,
especially when we're doing blockchain that can't be reversed and that kind of thing.
I'm really looking at it from a perspective of I'm playing around, I'm prototyping.
There's no real harm if it breaks, that kind of thing.
And so it's just kind of a spectrum to all of that
to consider yeah yeah i remember last time we spoke uh we were speaking about that i was like
yeah i'm not a fan of ai and he said yeah but i'm building this thing and look it's done my card game
and whatnot and and i find that really cool you know as you said it it's a bit of a toy you know
you're toying with something and it might actually grow into something bigger, just
as people who've got things they just enjoy doing and they just become so good at it or
lucky for some reason and it just sprouts into something bigger.
It can change life, and it can change your life not financially or stuff like that, just as in you discover something that you're really passionate about,
and that's just pretty cool, for sure.
As you said about games, being able to just say,
I want a game like this, not a game like this one, and blah, blah, blah.
And you get that result.
That's really awesome, for sure.
Great insights, gentlemen. Thank you. that result that's really awesome for sure great insights gentlemen thank you
all right uh let me yeah go ahead mark
i said let's set let's uh let's pantheon speak and then we can hop on to the
next space awesome yeah pantheon go ahead and uh
the mic is yours welcome all right guys welcome to the world let's go i'll keep it brief uh i know
everybody's excited to get over into breakman's face but thanks tommy for for sharing the coffee
with us this morning shout out to uh piga and the Pixel Journey doing amazing things on wax.
I want to reiterate what Chris Daya and Breakman said.
If you haven't registered for NFTopia,
definitely go do that.
It's going to be a blast.
I'm getting really excited for it this year.
There's a lot of fun things cooking
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Why not? So just do it.
As far as Pantheon specifically, we did a fun, we're doing right now, fun giveaway on our Twitter.
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Free to enter.
Just take a shot, shoot your shot.
And then we're also wrapping up our beta test for the in-game WaxP reward system.
We were playing some games yesterday or the day before.
I can't quite remember.
I'm really excited about how that's shaping up.
Very, very excited to take it live to mainnet.
But for anybody that is familiar with WAX and Testnet,
wants to come over to the Discord and play the game in a risk-free environment,
right, it's on Testnet, everything is very similar to how it'll be
when we launch with real assets and real Wax.
But it's been fun just getting feedback from the community,
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So I'm really excited to keep building and thanks for the time.
Yeah, if you have any questions, just hit us up on Twitter or Discord.
Thank you so much, Pantheon.
You guys have great giveaways
and you always have fun in the replies, too.
Shout out to Pantheon.
Try to keep it interesting.
You know, it's fun.
Thanks, Pantheon.
Especially when you give me weird units
of measurement to do math, too.
I've always got another one, thanks so much all right everybody it's really sorry for me don't want
to cut you off but hey patheon just remember one thing you owe me a reward i don't know what it is
but you owe me a reward do do it did i owe you Did I lose a bet to you that I forgot about?
I'm just talking with you, man.
I don't remember.
Oh, okay.
It was about knowing how to count up to 31 or whatnot.
I don't know what it was, and I was just teasing you.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
I mean, you could have convinced me.
If I owe you something, just let me know what it is and I'll send it over.
Thank you so much. Thank you everybody who came and joined today. That's our time. I
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breakman everybody thank you so much it's's really a pleasure to hear you share.
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