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Recorded: Sept. 4, 2025 Duration: 2:58:13Space Recording
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Well, it's not so easy now, though it never was back then.
We still can't seem to work this out, and you can still pretend.
These tattered walls and burning bridges quickly start to fall.
How long until there's nothing left at all?
I've been to California, man, I've seen them city lines. Been stranded in the desert,
scorching days and freezing nights. And I'll never understand why people try to walk so tall,
how long until there's nothing left at all. Don't you love what you got used to,
Don't you love what you got used to?
When we used to feel so free
Won't you wait while in silence, love?
Watch it fall
There's my new musical, I don't want to call it obsession, but God, I'm just really into Billy Strings, dude.
I started listening to him a couple weeks ago.
Well, I shouldn't say that.
A while ago, I was listening to Billy Strings.
And didn't really dive in too much.
I think I heard a couple songs and I was like, oh, those are cool, whatever.
I've always liked Bluegrass.
And man, I got watched, like, last week I was watching an interview with him or something.
And the guy's just an amazing player, dude.
Just one of the most dynamite new talents in music.
And I feel like I've just slept on him.
I don't know how.
And I'm looking, like, at his tour.
The guy's selling out arenas all over the world, dude. So, I don't know how. I'm looking at his tour. The guy's selling out arenas all over the world, dude.
So, I don't know. If you like
bluegrass, or even if you don't,
go check him out. He's a great guitarist,
great musician, period. And he's got a lot of
different styles. He grew up playing. He's kind of a virtuoso, kind of fun to listen to.
But, anyway, it's been a couple weeks.
I've been traveling again, probably a little more in the future here.
I actually drove like, oh man, maybe like 15 hours in the last few days.
15 hours in the last few days.
I've just been like a road warrior.
Went all the way down to Nashville.
Back up through
Louisville.
Louisville, as people
call it.
It sucks because I don't...
I feel bad because I'm just
mentally checked out of
Twitter
and the cryptoverse.
I don't know how to get back into it, you know?
So I bought some Powerball tickets and we're going to win Powerball tonight, as the title
indicates.
But Amelie, you can fill me in.
From what I understand, Litecoin is now at war with XRP in a childish, what do we call
this, battle on X that's like
meaningless. I find these things really weird.
As someone who formerly participated as a hater of Bitcoin
maximalists, and not even a hater, just
somebody who wanted to
set the record straight, I guess.
It's just impossible.
X is just such a strange forum because there's just no, I don't know.
There's no truth.
There is no truth.
We're in a post-truth world.
I guess that might be the best way to put it.
anybody can concoct their own truth.
Anybody can concoct their own truth.
And so it's just a matter of
who can get more people to believe their truth?
You know?
And this is the state of crypto.
When all else is equal, it's about convincing people.
It's like if we're all car salesmen
and every single car model had the exact same horsepower.
Now, that's not true with crypto in general.
They're not all the same.
But the fact is like, yeah, we're all like having a, what do they call that?
We're all having a measure, we're a pissing contest.
I'll put it as politely as I can.
And it's it's so kind of meaningless.
And I'm not sure why crypto has become such a non-cooperative space.
You know, I know you're a script maxi animal.
But yeah, I mean, what's what's the deal the deal here? Why are we like this? What's
going on? How you been? Animal might be having a hard time getting on speaking right now.
You're a speaker. He's got to unmute, brother. All right. Well, I guess I i'll until he figures that out i'll keep going um so there yeah i mean like
i said i've been busy i traveled through the south and every time i go down there i'm liking
it more and more one of the things i like about down there is that they've got like, you still got more space.
I think it's more spread out.
Yeah, hold on.
Yeah, now I hear you.
All right.
Sorry about that.
Yeah, man, if my situation worked out.
What were you just talking about?
I just said I missed the last 10 seconds or 30 seconds.
Well, I was talking a little bit about crypto
heard you were asking about the XRP LTC
feud that's going on
And buying I'm buying listeners I'm putting if I win Powerball you get $10,000
Yeah, you get $10,000. Nice. Yeah.
You put that towards advertising.
I told my daughter, I said, I bought some tickets.
I said, if we win, what are you going to do with your $10,000?
She's like, what?
Because it's like $1.5 billion right now.
Can you believe that shit?
Somebody could win.
It's like $1.4 billion.
Holy fucking shit man
those numbers
yeah that's crazy right
yeah that changes your life man
changes your life
I mean what do you
what do you even do
what would you do
because like you know if you win the lottery
back in the day you'd win the lottery it'd be like four million bucks ten million bucks and that's a lot of money but
it's not something where you can like i mean fuck billions of dollars you can do some or a billion
dollars you can do some crazy shit with a billion dollars it was actually you know joel asked joel uh valenzuela asked that question and
it's actually a really interesting exercise um because i was with some friends the other day
and i asked them the same question like what would you do if you had like it was a hypothetical 50
million you know 50 million dollars what would you do okay now 1.5 billion that's another league what would you do
like it'd be totally different i think but um because that 50 million we're talking about
okay it has to be sustainable so you put some in like one of those gic's right so you get like
your salary every year you're spending money whatever that you don't have to worry about
and the rest of money you, you could put towards what?
Opening, starting a business, getting a house for your parents
or whatever, getting yourself like a couple acres
or a couple hundred acres, you know, setting that up.
And then what, you know, what do you do once you've set up
what you're missing in your life right now?
You know what I would like to do?
I've been watching a little bit of the guy who does the finance show.
Shit.
Caleb Hammer.
Yeah.
I know the guy you're talking about.
He's got like those OnlyFans stars that show up or whatever.
Sometimes, sometimes.
And honestly, on a show or a lot of times pretty
despicable people i think i don't know why maybe if you find yourself in tons of debt you don't
even take any responsibility or try to fix it that's who ends up oh so that's the type of person
but uh no well what i realized watching that you you know, everybody, I think, I don't know, maybe you haven't, but most people have had credit card debt or that a lot of people have student loan debt or mortgage debt.
And there's so much money that goes to interest.
And that collectively, we're all giving such a large portion of our checks to fucking these companies, right? That just,
I don't want to call them leeches. They loaned us money, but you know, it's, it's a drain on
the general economy. And if there were a way to collectively pool money, I was trying to think
And I feel like there could be a path somewhere with crypto and verifiable, let's call it proof of contribution, right? That allows collectively us to help pay each other's debts off rapidly. Like if someone has $50,000 in credit card debt at 30% interest, they're,
about this and I feel like there could be a path somewhere with crypto and verifiable,
they're swimming, like they're literally drowning for the rest of their fucking lives.
And what a massive amount of interest is saved if that can just be boom, paid off. But the problem
is, and that leaves, right? How do you make, how do you keep that person around for the longterm and contributing? Because if you could, if we could collectively learn to just help each other out to pay debt off and it felt like, and maybe it feels more like a thousand chance that your massive student loan is going to get paid off, I'm not saying that could happen.
I feel like there's something there.
There's no way.
Dude, you're onto something because I saw something.
I think it was on X.
This guy was trying to sell his house for a million pounds in in the UK and he was unable to sell it for a million pounds
People kept low-balling him. So what he did is he sold raffle tickets
For two dollars each you saw that he sold he was selling raffle tickets for two dollars each
a million people bought him and
So he made two million right and he gave the house away for a dollar.
I think that might even be like some kind of a tax write-off situation,
or like it might be ways to dodge taxes a bit.
Probably not.
But yeah, so anyways, there's something there for sure.
Perhaps we're at a time with technology and digital cash where some kind of trading type of equity, distributed equity or distributed loan management system could work for people.
I'm not the guy to ask about it, though, that's for sure.
Well, yeah, I totally agree, man.
That consolidation system, right?
And the problem is you've got shitty people.
People who accumulate ungodly amounts of debt
generally have made a lot of bad financial decisions,
and they're going to be very unreliable
to actually follow up with anything they promise.
But how can we get to the point where maybe it's like,
yeah, debt consolidation without a profit motive,
where a business exists and says like, you know, we have to,
you have to have some maybe interest expenses to a loan because,
you know, literally it's, it's,
there is cost of, I don't know, not cost of the money, but just cost of administration, but maybe it's like two or three percent something like that
And if you had someone who was kind of an angel investor of sorts
Could they help make that happen and then you know obviously don't want to get taken advantage of you don't want to lose
No, that's like what would the consequences be for someone who defaults?
How would you enforce it?
Because if there aren't any consequences, people
are going to default.
And if it doesn't affect your credit
score, and if you don't go to prison,
it's not going to
work. There's got to be serious consequences.
Prison, perhaps.
You can't participate unless
you've... You can't be a beneficiary
unless you've uh unless you've contributed consistently over the course of a set amount
of time and you can only benefit you know it's got to be like two years you're paying every week
ten dollars a week for two years or something you show consistency and then if you have someone with like if you have enough money in a kitty of sorts
that money can accumulate you can earn interest as well right and can help offset some of these
maybe some of the bad issues you would have but But yeah, it's hard because you have to,
it just feels like how can we not make any progress towards it?
Because everybody who is interested in helping,
quote unquote, in this world,
is really just interested in how do I capitalize off of this?
And it's self-protection, self-preservation. I get it.
You're running a business. No, it's not
a charity. I understand that. And so it just is crazy to me when you see some of these people
in situations, you're like, oh my God, man, they're paying, you know, payday loans and shit.
And they're just rotating debt and they're paying 20, 30, 40. Sometimes like, you know,
payday loans can be like 200% interest. like fucking, Hey man, you would literally just want to give up. Right. And maybe, well, I mean that,
you know, and the whole debt thing,
the whole loan thing is sort of like credit cards.
They're a new concept, right?
They're like less than a hundred years old or maybe they're about a hundred
years old at this point.
Yeah. So, okay. the Diners Club, right?
Yeah.
Is that what I started with?
Yeah, so start with that.
I mean, home loans, I guess those existed beforehand.
But by and large, like, credit is kind of a new phenomenon.
And I would be cool with getting rid of it, you know?
I know, I know. with getting rid of it. You know, like, I know.
Like, you know, we shouldn't use it.
Well, both Trump and Kamala Harris were like,
have said we should cap credit interest card, credit card rates.
And of course, you know, free market people are like,
that's crazy because then some people won't get credit cards.
And it's like, is that really a bad thing?
Right.
If I got shut off from a credit card, that might be a good thing.
I might go, well, fuck, I just can't afford it then.
I just don't get to go on vacation.
I just don't get to do X, Y, or Z.
I got to go, you know what?
I'm going to have to sell my car.
I have no other fucking choice.
I'm going to have to move to a cheaper place.
We just keep... It's literally kicking the
can down the road and you're doing it...
It's one thing to do it as a country or one thing to
do it as a... You know, you're buying
a house. There's at least an asset there.
But when you're doing it for just buying
just shit. You know what I'm saying?
So, hey, have you heard
of Islamic banking?
So, I just checked with Gemini about countries that don't have credit systems.
And Islamic banking has something that I think sounds a lot like what you're talking about.
So let me just read it out loud here for you.
Several countries with large Muslim populations, such as Iran, Sudan, and Pakistan,
have national financial systems based on sharia law islamic finance prohibits interests and
instead uses profit and loss sharing arrangements leasing and sales based techniques this system
is growing and is available in many other countries with conventional banking systems
In many other countries with conventional banking systems.
So the whole leasing and sales or was it profit and loss sharing agreements.
That sounds interesting.
I'm not sure what that's about.
But it sounds like it's in line with what you were talking about.
Well, so, you know, I think in the Bible.
Oh, boy, we're going to get into the Bible.
Fucking Randall, bring it up. Usury, which can be interpreted today, usury is a legal term
meant to be like excessive interest. I believe in the Bible, it means like any interest at all.
I've heard, I've heard the thing about Jewish people. I don't know how true that they do not
charge interest. Again, I don't know, true that they do not charge you again i don't
know you know how much anti-jewish shit is out there so i don't know yeah that's not a field
that i fire but i heard that too what's the truth in that right so i don't know but still yeah you
you start to wonder like what's the what's the net gain you know where are we i guess this keeps coming back to this thing like where
the fuck are we going and and with a crazy part like you know as you know bitcoiners or crypto
light coiners it's like the whole idea is we want to upset the the monetary system this debt-based
monetary system the simplest way to do that is to stop taking on debt when you when you debt is
fiat money is only created. I shouldn't
say only created a large portion mostly created by people taking on personal debt. That's how
they make money. That's how they print money, quote unquote, out of thin air. And as you pay
debt off, you're actually shrinking the money supply. And so it would be a net benefit for everybody
if we could get people to pay their debt off.
And I mean, it's kind of sickening if you have a company.
But I also understand why the companies charge so much interest
because they're eating a lot of shit, right?
They know a lot of people aren't going to pay this shit off.
And so it's like, I'm not blaming them necessarily, but it's just so disheartening to watch somebody be,
you know, making 40 grand a year and they're like $75,000 in credit card debt or the equipment
and 30% interest. You're like, how would you ever feel like you're going to get out of that shit?
feel like you're gonna get out of that shit and then yeah I don't know it's uh I haven't like
I haven't been in the credit card debt for a little bit but like I remember back in the day
my early 20s was pretty stressful for sure um a lot of debt we we had to hunker down dude for like
it took us years of like all your cash like we would take each take 100 bucks
a month and that was it that was your spending money and it was just tackle it you know and it
sucks but you know if you the thing is along the way oh your car breaks down or you got to get
fucking new tires or something it's like there's a thousand fucking dollars. Like, you know, your tires are placed now. It's a thousand fucking dollars. 12,
you'll get four tires. If I'm only making, you know,
50 grand a year and I might have my take them. That's like, it's like half,
that's like a two week of my pay of my take home pay gone for just something.
I have no control over it. It's like basic transportation you know it's it's
fucked so yeah maybe I'm gonna be a month to use them right and that's the thing like how does it
work because I kind of use my car in a way to try to maximize the benefits I get from it right
like I get cash back I think like between four and five percent on certain things like gas groceries and restaurants um and my air miles or whatever are pretty generous when it comes to flights and
whatnot dude i had i was in a situation this week where i actually got to use one of the perks in
their credit card for the first time uh my flight was canceled for like nine hours
yeah so my girlfriend and i were stuck at the airport like we got there like at 8 a.m for a flight that's supposed to leave at nine and like the fuck they're like we get on the
plane they're like yeah there's something fucks with the plane a cargo door is not closing um
so we're gonna try to find you guys another plane so we got deplaned and walking around the airport
and like what the fuck are we gonna do here for like i don't know they said like it was gonna be
four hours what are we gonna do for the next four hours and luckily i have this credit card where i get
like access to lounges at airports um so i signed up the first time i use it i signed up to the
airport lounge thing with with visa and we got to hang out this nice lounge with like decent chairs
they're pretty comfortable you know my girlfriend took a nap which is
impossible if you've ever been in an airport for a while stuck in a terminal you know it's like
impossible to sleep on those chairs all right um they had free food fucking open bar bro where was
it like it was this was in the vancouver no i was i took our canada our Canada. And our flight was canceled.
So yeah, chilling this.
It was like a Lodge.
It was like a Visa, whatever, Lodge.
And it was my first time into one of those things, to be honest.
All those suckers on fucking Caleb Hammer's show,
they're paying for your fucking drinks.
That's what's going on.
I guess.
And they love these companies.
They love the people who actually have money and actually pay their fucking bills.
So they'll treat you like a king.
And you're like, these credit card companies aren't so bad.
No, I do think they're shit. I aren't so bad no i do think they're
shit i think they're predatory i think they're fucking vultures man i hate them with every ounce
of my being to be honest with you um i really do man when i first went to school like when i first
we have this thing called stage it's like college okay it's like your grade 12 really grade 12 and 13 we have
a separate it's like uh just above high school right on orientation day they take these kids
barely 17 years old you know take them around tour the tour the the campus and for lunch they
bring us a cafeteria but once you know it flanking the entrance of the cafeteria are all the major banks offering you know student rate credit cards like low interest rate credit cards for students
with like a five thousand dollar limit you know people i know at least like
two good friends that fucking never paid that shit back that had to declare bankruptcy when
they were like in their 20s because of this shit like i swear to god man like for sure these people are degenerates and it took them a while to get
their shit together but at the same time like how many kids fall into that trap they never teach us
about interest payments they never like you know yeah you could read the fine print but who's gonna
read that shit like yeah i've never read it before up until this recent credit card because i want to
like really maximize the perks i get out of it but up until this recent credit card because I want to really maximize the perks
I get out of it
up until then I was like okay
that much okay so
that's all I really cared about
I feel like a lot of people just don't
get it
they also have poor
impulse control
especially at that age
in that circumstance wouldn't it
make more sense that the credit card companies could fucking take from your paycheck like they
do child support wouldn't that make a lot more sense where you don't even ever fucking see it
right a lender sees it well he doesn't have enough every month to even pay me i can't take it out of
his account then i'm not even to bother lending to the guy.
Like, why the fuck is that not a thing?
It definitely feels like the system is trying to make it more difficult
for us to take on, like, to take our,
or to make our accounting or, like, a personal budget simpler.
Like, so in Europe, right, they've got,
they get paid on the first of the month.
Their rent goes through the first of the month, right?
It's very simple for them to make their budget up.
They can, it's, their budget's pretty much done for them.
Like they're budgeting their, you know, their mental math of their budget.
It's done pretty much automatically, at least for the major items.
Whereas here in Canada, I'm sure the States, we get paid every two weeks.
And it's not like a steady, it's not like, you know,
the first two weeks of the month. No, no. It's like 14 days from your last paycheck, right? It's every Thursday.
So trying to budget your shit is, is so complicated.
On top of it,
fucking credit cards take like seven days or something like five days
for like transactions to finalize right so your balance isn't even updated and this is a totally
digital system there's no reason there's like no fucking human intervention here i know my wife's
always like so why does it take seven days this one's due on the 13th and this one's due on the
22nd it's like what the fuck can't we just make it like the first the 10th or the first the 13th and this one's due on the 22nd it's like what the fuck can we just make it like the
first the 10th or the first the 11th the 20th yeah no you say you get paid on the 30th or like the
end of the last day of the month and your rank goes out in the first day of the month and your
car payment goes out the first day of the month that way you know what you're working with for
the rest of the month it's like it's not fucking rocket science and yet they make it
difficult they make it like so it's like this abstract concept that people just can't grasp
naturally you need to actually write it down on paper and do the work um when there's like a more
efficient and practical way of doing these things of getting staying paid, right? Like, like if you genuinely wanted to get paid as a credit card or a creditor,
you know,
you're like,
Hey,
I want to get paid,
but it's like,
they,
I don't know.
They'd rather have to do this dance.
Cause they know they can hit you with fees and all this bullshit,
you know,
and they,
yeah,
you know,
you're right.
It is funny. So there, there you
go. That would be, if I had a billion dollars, I would be like, I want to try to find a way that I
can make a more fair system for people. But yeah, some way they've got skin in the game. I mean,
a billion dollars isn't enough to compete with MasterCard, but you know, if you know if you if you build a better product that costs less you don't need to spend
any money on marketing you know word of mouth get it out for you and yeah i feel like i feel like
something has to change because we're just going to be drowning in fucking debt. And the only solution is going to be Trump just forcing
the Fed to dump interest rates, which just is going to exacerbate the fucking problem.
I know it's no, I know it's fun and low interest rates are good. Look at my job,
we'd be doing better if interest rates were low. People be buying more shit, more, you know,
more transactions, right, more shit moving around
the country. That's a good thing for everybody, but in the short term. And that's the thing
with debt. If you look at the countries that create debt more freely, which the United
States is the king of it, like our mortgages are lower rates. They're longer rates. We have the dollar as our backing, so we basically run the show.
It's ultimately, I don't know, is it good? That's the question.
It's opulent. It looks good. It feels good. It's nice to have new shit.
But in the long run, is this shit going to catch up with it?
Or are we in the process of watching it catch up with us?
You know?
Right.
Yeah.
And like,
I don't know,
this whole AI revolution happening at the same time,
it's,
it looks like we're coming to a head and something has to give.
Did you see that tweet that Elon made?
Rather his reply, he said something like,
oh, I got it up here, but he said,
there will be universal high income,
not merely basic income.
Everyone will have the best medical care,
home, food, transport, and everything else.
Sustainable abundance.
This is what he wrote in reply to someone who said when robots were
replaced working people how will those who become unemployed to stay in their lives
so this guy who's a billionaire has this idea that there's going to be
some kind of crazy fucking high income universal high income where is it going to come from i
don't know is it from the tariffs is it from like mass taxation of corporations like amazon and
walmart i don't know i don't like i don't get how he comes up with this stuff. He doesn't normally talk out of his ass, in my opinion.
And maybe he knows something we don't.
Or maybe he is talking out of his ass.
Maybe he's just, you know, he's high on ketamine
and doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
I will say something about him that I have,
I'm beginning to change my mind on is solar power. And I think he may feel
that if we have solar-powered transportation, driverless trucks, automated transportation all
over the place that's powered by the sun with that is abundant energy
that think of like yeah think of the abundance you have if you have free work
like all the robots are powered by solar everything's just powered by the sun
granted there's maintenance but the robots can do them robots can build themselves
Granted, there's maintenance, but the robots can do them.
Robots can build themselves.
Robots can mine the materials.
I mean, that's very futuristic, right?
But I think he does think way down the line sometimes.
And I do agree with you.
I don't think he does this as a bullshit sales pitch.
I think he has in his mind where this ends up.
I don't know.
I guess maybe he has bullshit.
Rand, you've had your hand up.
Go ahead, brother.
How you been?
Pretty good.
I love the space.
Been a minute since I've been here.
Okay, so two things.
The first thing,
it takes seven days for credit cards to make transactions. I think they do that seven days so they can earn the interest for seven days.
Lightcoin is lightning fast, but nobody makes interest.
You make your payments and it takes six or seven days to go through.
They're making interest on it. They're wheezing the juice.
I don't know if that's true.
I think what he's saying is they don't
post the transaction for seven days.
Is it in their bank account?
Well, it just doesn't appear in your balance.
Is it in their bank account?
Okay.
It's in someone else's bank account.
And I know for myself, I have
like 14 days grace before
interest starts getting charged yeah they give you i mean they give you a fucking
credit cards if you use them properly are actually fucking wonderful you know i pay no interest on
anything for up to 50 days sometimes right i buy 50? Okay. Well, whatever. And especially if you get the points.
If you get the points for using it,
that's like, Animal, you said you use the points.
Right. Yeah, the points
you pay, dude, I got like
about $1,000
last year in points.
Now, my credit card costs about
$300 per year.
But yeah, I got it at the end
with all the points, with all the way i use it it's like
a thousand bucks a thousand something so well the reason they do take this massive money and they
can earn it like you're saying the rand as they take it okay i can maybe they can borrow even
against your uh you know like a uh what do they call it? You're fucking,
God damn it.
When you sell something in your business and you have POs that the money is due to your business.
Oh fuck.
Why can't I think of the word for it?
Like a line of credit?
Well,
like if somebody owes you money,
like they cut a PO and you delivered the product and they're on like net 30 terms
that money's considered good it's considered that that money is in your bank essentially
like you can kind of i don't know you can borrow against it but you can
you can value a company against it how about that right so you could say right yeah it's part it's
part of your your equity right right sorry so i'm Right. So I'm sure I'm sure they use that as like, I've got cash coming in and therefore I can
whatever, leverage that in some way. The financial gymnastics that go on
is fucking wild as shit, right? These guys, if you have money, you can make money. You were
just talking about, you got a billion dollars, you put half a billion into a treasury fund. You're going to make an ungodly amount of money every year,
just sitting on your fucking ass. And that doesn't make any sense. That's the other part.
But it is, you know, you're doing something. Those people, people are using that money
as leverage. And I don't know, man, it's funny. Cause as you were talking earlier, this, uh,
leverage. And I don't know, man, it's funny because as you were talking earlier, this,
I'll let you, I'll let you restart Rand, but I was reading about in this Islamic financing,
it says money is not a, money has no intrinsic value. Utility, it is only a medium of exchange
and you should, money cannot be made from money. That being said, those countries have not advanced
to the level we have advanced, at least with material bullshit.
Are those countries in debt like we are either?
Probably not. But that's
where the question becomes. Where's the debt? Who's paying it?
Where's it come from?
You're borrowing from the future.
Somebody's going to pay it eventually.
It just feels like gymnastics, right?
Financial gymnastics.
Okay, that was your first point, Rand.
I'm sorry.
I jumped all over that.
That's okay.
Here's my second point.
And follow me because, you know, I follow the Bible.
So when Adam and Eve sinned, God cursed.
Well, they said to Adam, by the sweat of your brow, you're going to have to work.
The food's not going to be free anymore.
So you're going to have to work.
Well, then this is mankind.
This UBI is mankind's way of getting around the curse.
We're going to have you.
Everybody's going to get paid.
You don't have to work.
You don't have to pay for what you did wrong.
And it's just mankind's way of getting around having to work for your food.
That's just what I think.
Which is like a denial of God.
Dude, I had thought about, I was thinking about gold this week, this last week.
I think I made a post about it.
Literally nobody looks at my posts anymore.
Like I don't even know what the fuck.
I literally get no response. I saw it. I think I made a post about it. Literally nobody looks at my posts anymore. Like, I don't even know what the fuck. I literally get no response.
I saw it.
I think I liked it.
I said, let me see here.
Well, you like all my stuff, Chief.
That's why I let you in here.
Wow.
This is true.
I said, if the only intention of Bitcoin is to be held with a hope to become the base layer of money,
we just have an easier time converting back to gold.
Gold's distribution model and supply was created by God.
It's got great privacy, perfect fungibility, and censorship resistance.
Already widely recognized and adopted. And the thought I had was that here we're trying to reinvent the wheel.
God gave it to us. And I know it sounds, I'm not trying to be all biblical and shit. I'm not trying to say there's a
man in the sky that dropped God, but the, the randomness of the universe created gold that
works really, really, really fucking well for what people want Bitcoin to become. Like they want
Bitcoin to be this base layer
that nobody ever moves and it's like well we already have that why would i need to fucking
what what like we don't have we can't haven't figured out the security budget for the after
100 years we have no idea what that's going to look like we already know gold fucking works
gold increases by two percent a year, an annual 2% a year.
And that's what we mine and it builds up.
And that's good.
You go looking for it.
If nobody mines it, like if it becomes unprofitable to mine, because there's already a shit ton of it sitting somewhere, right?
There's ample amounts of gold.
What's the problem here?
And you have silver.
Like, I get it.
These are different forms of money, and we should have them and try and compete with them.
But if you're just going to put it in a fucking vault and let the financial wizards manipulate it,
you're fucking wasting your time.
We already had that shit.
And think how quickly shit would change.
If all Bitcoiners just dumped, if all crypto people just dumped it and said, fuck it, we're into digital.
We're into physical gold.
Shit might get real.
That's what's happening right now.
What's it called?
$4,000 today, Rand?
No, $36,000.
$36,000.
$36,000.
$40,000 or something like that.
Yeah, $36,000.
25 years ago.
I need to start stacking silver like Rand, man.
I don't have any silver.
I need to start stacking silver like ran man. I don't have any silver. I need to start stacking silver
Yes, you do
I mean I may I make I may
Sell some of the gold and stack some silver
Yeah, you should it's 86 to 1 per ounce and then you sell it for silver and then when silver gets back to 40 to 51
Trade half of back for gold.
You'll get more gold.
I just want to win the Powerball so I can go on TV and go, yeah, I think I'm going to buy $100 million for Litecoin.
Just convert the whole thing to Litecoin, bro.
You'll pump it.
Just let me know a couple of days before you start buying.
Yeah yeah yeah
I would fucking pass out
A billion fucking dollars
Holy shit
What's your tax on your state
On the lottery
I think most places
Here's what I've always heard
I don't know what the truth is
That you're pretty much gonna lose half
No matter what
For sure.
And if you take it,
what they usually do is they're like, if you want it all
right now, we're going to take half.
The Powerball website
tonight said of the $1.2
billion, you get $640
million if you take it all
right now.
That's robbery.
That's a robbery. Shit.
That's robbery, bro.
You're right. You shouldn't take it.
It's crazy.
It's the reason why crypto's dying, bro.
In my opinion, this is why crypto's dying.
I mean, obviously, Bitcoin's $100,000 and something thousand.
But everybody wants the government on crypto now.
And they're going to tax you on it.
The fuck happened to all of this? It was supposed to be permissioned as money.
Now we have to ask permission
to use the fucking thing.
Yeah. Well,
you don't have to.
Of course.
I agree.
What the fuck?
Where are you on the Powerball website? Hold on a second.
I've already got my ticket since I announced it.
It's not until like 11 o'clock tonight though, right?
No, it's in about 20 minutes.
Oh, shit.
Oh, it is?
I thought it was in an hour.
I thought it was like 11 p.m.
I thought it was 7.30 my time.
Oh, jeez.
Yeah, 11 p.m. East Coast.
Yeah, that's an hour and 20 minutes, dude.
Yeah, so did you ever say what you would do if you wanted?
I think it's an interesting exercise because, you know, half the time you can do a lot of stuff.
Cocaine strippers.
A lot of cocaine and a lot of strippers.
Okay, step one.
Okay, let me go through this. Definitely not giving money to charity they already have enough i have nothing step one
would be like giving people that are pretty dang close to me like really good friends
family a flat amount be like this is it don't ever fucking come talk to me again
you're gonna michael jackson it this is it like 10 mil yeah yeah like 10 mil that's it like
brother sister you know that's plenty for you to retire and just enjoy your fucking life
i don't want you to fucking come with your hand out. Would you give them cash or Litecoin or gold?
$10 million worth.
Would you put strings on it?
Like, I'm going to give you $10 million in Litecoin, and you figure it out.
No, that's up to them.
They can do whatever they want with it.
The biggest thing, I don't want people on my fucking back.
Howard Stern was funny.
I don't know if you ever listened to him.
He was always like, he never gave anybody a fucking dime.
He was like, the second I give somebody something,
everybody else would be like, what about me?
What about me?
And he goes, it's constant.
You got tons of money constantly asking me for shit.
I don't know.
I say that, but I don't know.
That's not my personality, though.
I would absolutely not. Family is one thing yeah for sure but good good friends i know my whole life would be getting 100 000 500 000 something like that right right bill you know
how much fucking money that is and that's the thing with A billion is different than 50 million.
Exactly.
That's what I mean. Yep.
Yep.
Yeah.
With a billion, then you can start to...
I don't know.
Let's say you put a half a billion in...
You're talking about buying some treasuries or some shit,
and you're like, okay, I'm making...
What would that be?
So you'd be making 25 million a year doing nothing.
$2 million a month for the rest of your life.
That's a lot of stripping.
You know, you could just open a strip club.
America needs to go back to that, bro.
America needs to start doing cocaine more, bro.
I'm dead serious.
I did see it. Yeah, I mean, I think you might be right cocaine more, bro. I'm dead serious. I did see it.
Yeah, I mean, I think you might be right about that, dude.
I think because crackheads are better than the Fentes that we have now.
Okay, cash value.
The crackheads were industrious.
At least these guys went out, and they would still get shit done.
The cash value is $634.
But a lot of times if you take it in payments, it's like way higher than that.
Like they're taking, like you might get $900 if you took it in payments.
Nah, that's, no.
You might get $750.
Maybe $800.
Yeah, but that's over 20 years and what's the last 20th year
going to get you a cup of coffee
you got to take it all now
and do your best with it
don't take the 20 year
payments
they're just going to print more
I do kind of agree with that
I think the math even proves out
your best just take it.
Bert, what do they say?
Yeah, what's the incentive of doing the payment thing?
You end up, I see this actually, I'll say an annuity.
Okay, so in an annuity, you would have 30 annual, I just found a website, 30 annual payments of $46 million a year.
So let's see.
Hold on a second.
Oh, shit.
So hold on.
Okay, this changes things.
You can take the annuity and you get $1.4 billion.
If you take the cash, you get $634.
But you still have to pay taxes on the cash.
So you get a tax rate of $152.
Plus an additional federal taxes of
82. So you only end up with
399.
So if you do the annuity,
30 million a year
after taxes for
30 years.
So what's 30 times 30? 900, right?
Isn't that crazy?
And you probably can use that as
leverage, right?
Yeah, so In one case,
you get $900 million over the course of 30 years
and the other one, you just get $400 million
today.
But they're betting that inflation
is going to increase that much.
Inflation is going to double because why would they do that?
Or that Powerball is going to
go out of business.
Well, they probably don't have
the cash. They're taking it and going to go out of business. Well, they probably don't have the cash.
They're taking it, putting it in and earning interest.
They're doing what you would do.
So I'm in Ohio.
This says at the end of it, this is actually great because the state tax.
After 30 payments, I'd get $839 plus whatever my local taxes are.
I'd get $839, plus whatever my local taxes are.
And if I did it all in, one time I end up with $379.
So the fucking government gets over a billion dollars in all these scenarios.
And these people want the government to be in crypto.
This is fucking stupid to me, bro.
People vote for Trump because they want crypto to go up, bro.
This is fucking ridiculous to me, bro. This is why I want to leave crypto me bro. People vote for Trump because they want crypto to go up bro. This is fucking ridiculous to me
bro. This is why I want
to leave crypto bro. Ever since they want
everybody wants the government to join
in. It's fucking ridiculous
bro. I
can't argue with you dude.
Why would we hook up
a freestanding currency outside
of the government? Hook it up
with the government.
Isn't that what Bitcoin and Bitcoin are just to stay out of government?
That's what maxis are doing, bro.
Maxis are like, oh, number go up, number go up.
We got a long way in order to actually see people's minds change
I guess
so far they've been right
that's the problem
the market tells them
they're right
they're making the right decisions
and when they use it
half of it is gone
so there you go there's the question do you want 400 million today animal
so now this 1.7 billions down to 400 million yeah okay now the math has to become this and we need
to do this yes that's still a lot of money dude do this math for me because I had to step away from my computer. It's actually like, let's say you take $350 million
and you earn
5% interest
a year for 30 years.
What do you end up with?
Do you end up
with more than the $900 million?
Got it, right?
It's probably
pretty close.
It's probably pretty close.
5% of $350 million? it's probably pretty close it's probably pretty close
five percent of 350 million that's 17 million well you gotta do it as a in perpetuity right hold on so 17 million yeah do it I know what you're talking
about so they get 300,000 a month today
and you invest it,
unless they just put in something
like a money market account or something,
you bought all federal treasuries,
which are like 5% right now.
Okay, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10,
14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20,
21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30.
If you did that and never touched it for 30 years, you'd end up with 1.5 billion.
Of which you'd have to pay a lot of taxes when you sold, right, Chief?
Okay, so hold on a second.
I see what you're saying.
They took all of it.
Yeah, it's...
They took all of it.
It's 525 million over 30 years at five percent what are you talking dude no it would so
if you take if you take that 350 million dollars i know but it would build on itself right so you'd
make five percent and then the next year it'd be a bigger okay so yeah it's got a compound so
yeah yeah i don't have i don't have excel on my phone here i. I just don't know how to do that. Fit 30 times.
But yeah, I hear what you're saying.
Right.
So at least, yeah.
I think it's such an ungodly amount of money regardless.
Like you guys are saying, your best bet is just to take it and just disappear, right?
disappear, right?
Don't tell anybody.
Don't tell anybody.
Although I do think that's one of the conditions
of these things is you have to go on TV
and present the check.
Right.
But then you just get some major plastic surgery.
There's some states where you can be anonymous.
Oh, this is Powerball, though.
Oh, that's right.
I think you're right. Dang. You know what? I'm starting to think
about it. Maybe I don't want to win.
Did you see the people standing on the heat
crossing state borders
from Nevada to California to get tickets?
Oh, they don't have it in Nevada?
You can't buy it in Nevada.
Oh, shit.
I don't even know where my ticket is.
I think I left it in my
other...
Yo, what are your numbers, bro?
Hold on a second.
Give me like 30 seconds.
Yeah, Nevada doesn't
do anything like scratchers or
lotto or anything because they want you to go to
their casinos.
Mm-hmm.
They got to keep the money.
That's fair.
That's fair.
They're in a unique position with Vegas and everything.
I can't give you my numbers because
if I win, I genuinely don't want to tell anybody
for at least a while. I don't want to die, dude.
You're not going to win. Come on.
What if?
Then, I don't know, I'm going to ask you for money.
Every time the lady at the gas station, I was on my way home. It was like two hours away.
I said, hey, if I win, I'll come back and give you $100,000.
Dude, you'd be dropping $10,000 like it was going out of style.
You'd be like, hey, buddy, here's $10,000.
I'll be dropping $10,000 like the ball's in the heat, bro.
Right?
Oh, by the way, who won at poker this weekend?
Last weekend, Durant took my money.
This weekend, I got my money back.
That's good.
That felt bad.
I couldn't play.
Out of commission, but...
Yeah, he did good.
Last week, it was a battle for the half light coin.
Like two hours.
That was a good game, though, right? It was never boring. It was never boring.
It was actually a good game.
I just got drunk and pulled out some bullshit
two times.
You guys played two nights
in a row, didn't you? Or did you play Friday,
Saturday?
It was about a week apart.
Yeah, it was a week apart.
I thought I saw that you guys were playing two days in a row.
Two nights in a row.
It doesn't say what time it comes on.
Who knows?
It has a countdown clock if you're on the website.
I'm not that worried about it.
Like Animal said, it's highly unlikely I won anyway.
I remember back in the day, there was a 60 Minutes about a group of people that went out.
This was like the Virginia Lottery.
It got really high.
And they'd had this plan in place that if it ever got over a certain amount,
they were going to go out and buy every single available number.
And I mean,
this is,
I'm talking like,
this is the nineties,
late nineties,
probably.
And they did it and they won.
And I think they ended up splitting it with like another person or
something.
So it kind of ruined their plan,
but it is possible,
but the power ball makes it the power ball,
you know,
having to have that power ball,
right.
Makes it. So the, so the numbers. The Powerball, you know, having to have that Powerball right makes it.
So the numbers are coming out in an hour and five minutes.
All right.
We got another hour and five minutes of being poor, guys.
So, Animal, I didn't hear anywhere in your plan where you give all of us $100,000.
Yeah, I'd probably give you guys a hundred thousand
Hey, if you come in coming and contribute I'll give everybody ten grand so
Yeah, but it would be on the condition that you have to buy like one with it
Jesus Christ, I just give you like one. Yes. I'll just yeah, I'll just give you like one
On the ground you leave me let me try to guess two of your numbers.
I bought five tickets.
I thought you only need one, but yeah, buying five is good.
How much are the tickets?
Two bucks.
That's it.
Holy shit.
Okay.
Like going to the horse.
Do you have a power bar number 23?
Nope.
Damn.
That's a power bar I would choose.
Why?
Because of Jordan?
Are you a Jordan guy?
I'm a Bulls fan. Of course.
Who else was number 23?
LeBron for a long time.
This would be a good American sports quiz show.
Christian McCaffrey from the Niners.
The most famous of each number.
The best player of every number in any sport.
You've got to cross sports.
Like the number one.
Who's the best number one in all of sports history?
I don't think there's...
I can't think in my head of any number one being retired.
Ooh.
That's unusual.
You'd think there'd be a basketball player for sure.
Or big.
Derek Rose was number one, right?
I think he'll be the first.
Yeah, I think Derek Rose was number one, right?
I thought he was.
I mean, I don't know.
I'm not an NBA guy.
I thought he was number five.
But I have literally no idea.
Yeah, if I say 33, who do you think of?
Derrick Rose is number one,
and I think he'll be the first one getting his jersey to retire with a number one.
Oh, here we go.
Who's the best athlete who wore number one?
Oh, up at the top, Oscar Robinson.
Robert.
Ah, that makes sense.
That's right.
You're right.
There's not that many.
Then it goes Warren Moon, Tracy McGrady, Ozzie Smith.
I didn't realize Ozzie Smith was number one.
The fuck?
You know what I'm talking about?
Ozzie Smith.
From the 70s?
Well, the 70s, 80s, early 90s.
The Cardinals?
Dude, he was a fucker.
He was great.
Derrick Rose, you're right. Good call. Penny Hardaway.
But not very many. I gotta say, not very many.
Cam Newton up there. Oh, this is a game we could play all night. This is the most entertaining
football. Yeah, he fucked up. He fucked up. He fucked up. Cam Newton fucked up a lot.
Just by not diving for that football.
Oh, no, I agree.
I wouldn't say he's a great.
He fucked up.
His whole tenure, he fucked it up just by not diving for the football.
And it's crazy just to think about it that way, huh?
What, in the Super Bowl?
Yeah, all he had to do was dive for the ball,
and everybody would be okay with him. But everybody had to do was dive for the ball. And everybody would be okay
with him. But everybody remembers him
for not diving for the ball. I don't remember that. I'm not remembering
the play.
Really? Not vividly.
Dude, it was funny. I came across
this...
I got to remember where this was.
Shit, where
was I? I was talking
to somebody. It was this girl and she was like
she said she was a Seahawks fan and I was like you know what's funny about the Seahawks is like
the I said that was the worst play call in the history of any sport ever you know and she goes
dude she went into this 25 minute rant about how bad the call was and everything that was going on.
And, you know, if you know football, you know what I'm talking about with fucking not running the ball with beast mode, right?
And it was just funny to me.
I didn't have to say the play.
I didn't have to say anything about it.
Everybody in there knew exactly what the fuck I was talking about.
It's just
such an iconic moment in football.
It's like, what the fuck
just happened?
That's how you know Tom Brady
was lucky, too.
He gets his extra
Super Bowl just because of that.
He was also unlucky.
I'm a Giants fan.
Giants got lucky as shit twice.
The David Tyree catch was unbelievable.
Even the Mario Manningham catch was unbelievable.
In the other...
On the second...
On that sideline catch?
On that sideline catch, correct.
He could have easily had
seven or eight Super Bowls, but
whatever. I'm going to go look this up
because I don't remember that. Who were they playing?
Who? Which place?
The Cam Newton thing.
The Broncos, right?
I don't remember that Super Bowl being close.
Actually, no.
Yeah, they were playing the Broncos,cos 100 the seahawks beat the
broncos and then the broncos went back again yeah yeah i don't know what this up maybe i'm crazy
that was the one that peyton i thought peyton manning won one with ease
no they they they got slaughtered by the Seahawks
Right, I know that
But I thought they won the one with
Yeah, they got slaughtered by the Seahawks
That was a blow
He beat the Bears
I see what you're saying
I guess
I do agree that's crazy
He didn't go after it
It's crazy, but it's crazy,
but it's not.
I mean,
they've done it.
I mean,
they have it the same thing where he got all tired at the end of the
Superbowl.
And you're like,
what are you doing?
Terrell.
Terrell Owens was playing with a broken leg.
There's no excuses.
Who was Terrell Owens.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But you know what I'm saying?
You know,
that one,
you were just like, what has happened? Why are they not rushing? These like, didn't even care But you know what I'm saying? You know that one. You were just like,
what has happened? Why are they not rushing?
They didn't even care. They were in the last
drive of the Super Bowl. I like talking about
this stuff because Animal's like, I don't watch football.
Yep. There's some
big moments. Yeah, I don't know what the fuck
you guys are talking about. Well, there's a Super Bowl.
But, you know, Speaking of injuries, bro,
do you guys have
any injuries? Do you get any fucking medical care
for this shit? I've been taking these
peptides. I will tell you something medically
that's been better for me lately.
Oh, go down.
I had this...
It's called
Shotsky rings. Was I telling you about this a few weeks ago where I get like my,
I can't eat.
Like if I eat something,
things get stuck in my esophagus.
Have I told you guys?
Ooh,
Are you going back into the closet?
Overuse of the gag reflex.
it's,
I don't know. I've had it for a long time i mean twice i've had where they put a balloon down your esophagus and stretch it out because it gets constricted and it's
a lot whoa whoa yeah no gag reflex they knock me out though you know i'm not i don't know what's
going on most of the time but but anyway, so it's like
this constriction in your esophagus and they don't really know completely why it happens.
It's a little bit of indigestion and I would get where it gets worse at certain times and
certain foods would trigger it worse than others.
And like, I started cutting out fried foods cause that seemed to be a trigger for it.
cutting out fried foods because that seemed to be a trigger for it.
And I'm like thinking it's, I think there's an allergy element to it.
But like, I don't know, six weeks ago, I stopped drinking pop.
I ran out, I was like, this is probably one of the problems.
Because what happens is air is coming up and food is going down and they meet in this constriction.
And literally, like, I tell you, like, there'sion. I tell you, there's times
where I'm like,
it's weird because you can breathe
but you have this big lump in your chest
of food. Like, shit.
And I had to just go throw up.
Just get it out of my esophagus.
It's just putting all this pressure.
getting rid of pop.
And when you say pop, do you mean the CO2?
Yeah, carbonated drink.
He means soda.
So, but I mean, sparkling water does the same thing?
I don't know.
I've drank pop my whole life.
And I stopped.
I was up, I was up, I was on vacation.
I ran out of pop.
And I was like, you know what?
I've been meaning to try and stop anyway.
So I just bought some powdered drinks, whatever, with some caffeine in them.
And, man, I'll tell you what.
I think that was it.
And I'm sitting here going, I've gone to the doctor.
I've had that procedure done twice.
Nobody's ever said, no doctor has ever said, you know what?
What do you eat?
Like, what kind of foods are you eating?
That's amazing. You should cut this this out you should cut that out let's let's try to figure out why this is happening or get rid of your reflux
or reduce i quit fried food and white refined sugar like 20 25 years ago because it gave me It was a pain fear. I haven't eaten my carbs since 2004.
And I cut out fried foods.
And I'll tell you what, it actually hasn't been that bad.
I thought it would be really tough, but I'm glad I'm done.
And I'm not saying I'm done forever, but I feel better.
And I realize I really don't need it. If I go somewhere and that, oh, I can get, hey, you're going to have a burger and fries are always the side, right?
I'll be like, can I just get a, you know, if it's just mashed potatoes or baked potatoes, something, green beans, broccoli, something.
And I'm like, I'm so.
So basically you fix your Schatzky throat without the help of your doctor.
Schatzky's rings.
What's that?
You fixed that. So you fixed it. And your doctor shotski's rings what's that you fixed that so you fixed it and your doctor's in health no my point is yeah i've had that procedure twice and they've never
just been like yeah they never even try to save you hey you know what's probably causing this
these are the foods you need to cut out why don't we try this first before this invade you know it's
not i mean it's not invasive.
Like they literally,
whatever they put you under gas,
they do it.
You're out.
You don't,
it's like,
you don't even notice it,
but it just seems very strange to me that they wouldn't say that.
Otherwise I would go in there.
I mean,
at that point I was ready to go do it again.
And I'm just like,
I got to figure something out.
I got to get some discipline and get rid of these. Every food that causes me a problem, I just got to go do it again. And I'm just like, I got to figure something out. I got to get some discipline and get rid of these.
Every food that causes me a problem,
I just got to stop eating it.
I can't do it anymore.
And that's it.
And fried foods really are.
They're just,
they're just,
they just don't feel,
you just feel like shit.
You get done eating them.
You're like,
I feel bad.
You know?
And I,
and I'm jealous of people
who can just eat anything they
want and have zero issues at all i just don't know how you guys do it but anyway yeah i don't know
there's my goal saying it wasn't a medical hack but it's kind of it's a cool story so congratulations
on your uh and yeah here's to a recovery that is sustainable.
Feeling better.
and it's had other benefits.
I've always felt like it happened because like,
I always knew it was my body telling me,
Hey man,
you got to change some shit.
You know,
your body doesn't do that.
If it's not trying to send a message to you,
you know what I'm saying?
Totally.
you got to listen to your body.
100%. So you want to hear what I, what I've saying? Totally. No, you got to listen to your body. 100%.
So you want to hear what I, what I've been experimenting with lately.
All right.
Sorry.
Do you know R. Kelly?
Nevermind.
My body.
Nevermind.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
So, uh, you know, I got stem cells in my shoulder, in my right shoulder.
And it's been about two or three years actually since my first
stem cell treatment and you know i'm hitting the gym actually i got these these weights these
kettlebells and i'm doing all kinds of presses and all this and my right shoulder's
feeling good man like it's strong it's getting stronger my right arm is looking good and feeling
amazing my left arm though the one i didn't get treated for
it's kind of holding me back like it feels like my tendons there are as well i didn't really notice it until my right arm got fixed you know what i mean so like my right arm is getting stronger
and my left arm i'm getting a lot of pain um as i'm as i'm exercising as the weeks go on it's
like the pain just keeps getting worse like i need to actually need to stop with my left arm my left
arm is right right now stopping me from progressing my right arm feels great i can keep doing it
and whenever i do push-ups i i lean on my right arm more because it doesn't hurt type of thing
whatever um so i was thinking this shit i gotta go back to mexico i
gotta get my left arm done now what the fuck is gonna cost me an arm and a leg um and then i found
out and i remember someone at the light coin summit was talking to me about this i'm not gonna
say who but if you're listening thank you um they were telling me that they tried this BPC-157. And this is a peptide,
research peptide, which is actually not FDA approved, right? But it's used, well,
research has been done on mice extensively, where they took like a mouse and they cut its achilles tendon and then they
injected it with this bpc 157 for like two months and within that two month time the
tendon actually regroup reconnected itself um which is pretty amazing right i don't know if you if you're you're familiar with how tendons and
ligaments regenerate or heal but it takes months and oftentimes when you get a tear a full tear
like that forget about it you need surgery right but like a partial tear or like a major tear it
takes months and it's never really the same you're always going to have like a major tear, it takes months. And it's never really the same.
You're always going to have like a clicking or something,
and it's going to be weakened,
and it's going to be susceptible to tearing again, right?
So this BPC-157, apparently it helps tendons grow back
and grow back stronger, right?
Tendons tendons?
So I'm never.
Right. And I'm thinking thinking back like my whole life i've kind of always had tendon issues
i don't know if it's because of what i ate or maybe you know i just did too many like
dumb things with my body when i was a kid um and didn't train progressively and kind of went too
hard and just didn't eat properly maybe
i don't know or give myself or maybe it's just genetics and like my tendons aren't as strong
as like someone else's right um that's why i just don't do things i'm like why exercise i'm only
gonna hurt myself exactly exactly seriously so it's like this vicious circle is like where you
gotta exercise okay let's you start exercising circle is like, well, you got to exercise.
Okay. Well, you start exercising and you start getting in shape.
Then you hurt yourself. You got to take two months off.
And then because you've been exercising,
you built up this huge appetite and just end up getting fat while you're
recovering. Cause you're super hungry all the time. It's like, so it's kind of,
it's kind of fucked up. So I've been taking this for about, I don't know.
I want to say three weeks. Really about two weeks.
Yeah, I started before.
And I have, I've been injecting it, right?
Like, they sell to, they sell the pills.
I've been taking the pills.
And they also sell you this, they sell this powdered shit that you have to put, you know, water solution.
You're too.
And you inject yourself like
you're too young to be having this happen to you
i'm i'm 40 man maybe 41 soon um yeah i know i know but so yeah you know i've been injecting it
straight into my shoulder um and i've been taking these pills and shit and this compound comes from some kind of enzyme in your gut they found in your
gut and apparently it's what your stomach uses to repair itself from all
the acid and stuff right in there so it helps your stomach basically regenerate
and colloquially amongst the bodybuilding community,
it's known as like the Wolverine peptide, right?
Like the regeneration peptide.
So I'm trying it, man.
Like, look, I've got like this sprained thumb.
It's feeling a little bit better.
My shoulder is feeling a little bit better.
I don't know if it's going to be as impressive a result as I got with stem cells,
but because I was really starting from fucking zero with my right shoulder.
My left shoulder is still pretty strong.
I saw my mobility.
It's just I feel a grinding and just whatever, whenever I push.
So I'll let you guys know it's got a whole bunch it's like when you take it in pill form it kind of what's it cost
fixed per month it's about well so I'm taking like a double dose because I'm
kind of a tall guy and I'm taking like more of a, well higher than what the recommended dosages, um,
taking like 500 milligrams orally and I'm injecting myself in the shoulder as
well. So I'm taking somewhere probably around 800 milligrams a day. Um,
and that's going to cost me about a hundred bucks a month.
Well,
that's not too bad.
it's not.
And you consider how much a stem cell injection costs,
right?
Like it's 2,500,
but that's the thing.
So with stem cells,
you get one shot and it stays you for a year.
It's kind of like the way I see it.
Stem cells are kind of like launching a new,
like denting a nuke in your shoulder, whereas this stuff, it's like lobbing hand grenades every day. You know, boom, boom,
boom. And if you stop, then obviously your
healing stops. But yes, like from what
they've said in studies, like looking at the healing rate of tendons and like the quality
of the cells when they've said in studies, like looking at the healing rate of tendons and like the quality of the
cells when they've healed,
it's better than if they were to heal naturally over time.
So they heal quicker and stronger.
So yeah,
that's,
that's something you guys have more clinics in the States.
I actually have to get some from the UK.
So I have to pay like duties and shit on all that but like um i don't know i'm it's look they there's a huge disclaimer on these bottles they say uh these are not for human consumption this is for
purely research purposes um but then like you know you go on youtube and you see people just
like seeing the praises of it and you hear people being like oh yeah you know, you go on YouTube and you see people just like seeing the praises
of it and you hear people being like, oh yeah, you know, my dog's got like hip issues.
And so I put it in his water.
You know, I put like half the dose that I take in my dog's water and my dog's walking
better now.
It's been a year doing it.
So like, it's kind of crazy.
BPC stands for body protective compound.
Um, yeah, I'm pretty stoked. BPC stands for body protective compound.
Yeah, I'm pretty stoked.
I'm like, this is one of these peptides that RFK included in one of his speeches.
He's up on it. So hopefully, we'll have some kind of reform with that along with stem cells
You know, oh boy
I'm still bullish on our sweet summer child
My sweet summer child
Yeah, they're just gonna get a bullish there's gonna give it all up. I'll give all the power
it all up. I don't give a fuck.
All the power and control.
Well, no, I'm buying these
things. I'm not waiting for the government to tell me it's okay
to do so. I just hope that
because there's a lot of fucking stiffs out there
that only do what the government tells them to do.
I just hope that the government will fucking
tell them to do what's right
instead of just fucking doing what's
right for the pharma
companies, right?
Obviously, dude, I'm taking shit.
I'm a fucking guinea pig.
You know what I mean?
I went to Mexico to get fucking...
I'm not that guy.
I think it's awesome.
I mean, your story, though, has honestly made me...
Like, I've always...
I don't know.
Themselves were a controversial, quote-unquote, topic back in Bush's term, maybe 2004 ish. And I didn't really ever do any research into him. But yeah, I mean, it's one of those things that, again, once you're like aware of the bullshit machine, you go, okay, I was probably duped here.
the bullshit machine you go okay i was probably duped here you start realizing the stories that
shouldn't have really been stories and what would be the harm and they're killing babies for this
research innocent children that's what happens on on jekyll island yeah i mean
yeah well it's funny i It became a religious thing.
That was the thing about it.
It was funny.
It was like, and I'm thinking, why would stem cells have been a religion?
If anything, it should have been the opposite.
Like, yeah, God provided you with everything you need, right?
This isn't some sort of.
It's a natural thing, yeah.
God created this.
Yeah, if he made you, he gave you all the tools to fix yourself.
Here it is.
And then somehow it's going against God to use something from your own body.
Because you could realistically create your own stem cells.
Or you could harvest them when you're young.
Oh, and dude, let me think of another story recently about uh the not the fetus the
shit placenta yes and people who do home births are like trying to tell people they
basically holding them up that's what they give them their placentas.
You know,
those things are,
you know,
when I was there the second time,
because I brought my mom and stuff,
they gave us some freebies,
right?
Because we made a pretty big order.
One of the freebies was a placental injection where they take some placenta,
they process it a bit. I don't know what the fuck
they do and this big ass syringe they inject it into your into your stomach well okay like
subcutaneous like on your tummy and um it's supposed to help like regulate your hormones
and like have some anti-inflammatory effects and all this shit. But, yeah, placenta's cool, bro.
Yeah, they were trying to basically, I think it was
they didn't want the whatever mom
to leave.
Like, they had to make some sort
of specific request in order to get your placenta
and they'll do everything they can to not let you take it.
Those sons of bitches.
There's some good stem cells in there, right?
Yeah, bro.
I heard of people making placenta burgers.
Well, and they sell them.
They think, no, they're worth, they're worth like 20 grand or something.
Of course, the patient, none of that.
Fucking asshole.
I mean, the amount of STEM cells you can get from that probably, like, yeah,
if you kept your placenta and your
umbilical cord when you were born and just use those stem cells man that lasts you a lifetime
just your own shit you know yeah imagine if you freeze them in cryo now whether you agree with
abortion or not but what if you gave if you did go get an abortion and you actually got paid to do it,
that would be,
now that would be creepy,
but I'm just saying.
Like these,
they're selling,
you know,
oh shit,
the other thing is the organ harvesting industry.
Oh man,
I read,
I was listening to Brett Weinstein.
He was talking about
how there's some debate about when you declare someone dead.
And that hospitals are incentivized to declare you dead as soon as they possibly can so they can harvest your organs.
Because there's an absolute time limit on the lifespan of an organ.
You know what I mean?
It was,
it was pretty morbid because it was just basically saying like,
there is no,
you know,
they used to put bells on fucking graves because there are people who die
graves because there are people who die quote unquote,
quote unquote,
but aren't truly dead.
And it's difficult enough to know when it's,
it's difficult to know when someone's dead,
essentially.
It was,
it was morbid as shit.
I mean,
he was going through it.
Like he's like the,
you know,
the idea that there are people out there that potentially could be
aware of when they're being
harvested in some way.
And you're like, holy shit, this is so sickening.
And there
basically is no way of knowing
when someone's dead, truly.
Interesting.
I mean, obviously there's a time factor,
but to know the exact time
of death is difficult.
There you go, man yeah that'll get you
that'll get you thinking even worse stuff boy this has been uplifting
as always we get into the best yeah you know well i look forward to just to keep up like when they
have uh they have in japan already but they have the ability to take menstrual fluid,
right?
Like when your girlfriend's on the rag,
like they can take that and extract some pretty decent stem cells from it.
so hopefully that becomes a thing in mainstream because it'd be great.
You know,
say like you have like the matriarch in your family,
she's got viable menstrual fluid, brings home an extra thousand, $2,000 a month, right?
Of course, the price like that supply will bring the price down to it.
So maybe $1,000 a month, you know, to offset some of the inequality of being a woman and everything, whatever.
Let's just say and at the same time provide like, you know life-saving
Treatment options to the rest of the population
Right, that'd be fucking dope
Yeah, yeah, well, you know, I um
Maybe like that's where you go. Maybe Elon knows something, right?
Yeah.
There's a lot they don't tell us.
That's for fucking sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You hear the stuff?
Like there's, there's a bunch of news, news agencies that were saying that Trump had died.
He wasn't seen for three days.
Really?
And he comes out and he's like, rumors of my death are largely untrue.
Yeah.
What is that?
It ran old enough to know
Will Rogers.
What did he say?
Wasn't it rumors of my
death there?
Oh, exaggerated.
Largely exaggerated.
Yeah.
Was that Will Rogers? I think, yeah. Something like that.
Was that real Rogers?
I think it was. You're right.
Something like that. The rumors of my days' eyes are greatly exaggerated.
Something like that.
That guy was probably
a genius man.
He's kind of an icon. a genius man.
He's kind of an icon.
Will Rogers,
what did he do?
He was just a satire.
Cowboy.
He was a cowboy originally.
Was he really?
I didn't know that.
Hmm. Social commentator, I didn't know that.
Social commentator.
A humorous social commentator.
Okay.
From Oklahoma.
Yeah, there you go.
He was in Judge Priest.
Fuck.
These are movies in the 1930s.
Pull up like his...
Can you pull up like famous sayings?
Yeah.
Well, Roger's quotes.
Witticisms.
Oh, I got into... I got into some AI comedy. I like conversing
with AI when I'm on the road.
When I'm
driving, I'll just put it on and like...
Oh, really really questions.
Google Gemini.
It's great.
Are you going to try to learn more about Aesop's fables and like where some of these statements were these like famous,
you know,
tortoise in the hair,
right?
Slow and steady wins the race.
That was 600 BC when he wrote that story.
So this thing,
the story persists tortoise in the hair boy who cried wolf to the shits three
or whatever,
2600 years ago.
Really?
In Greek,
in Greek horse in the hair.
Yeah.
Huh?
And these morals that you go, wow, man, that's so crazy.
Because I think I said this a few weeks ago.
I was trying to figure out.
We talked about row, row, row your boat.
And I was thinking about the phrase stop and smell the roses is something that people say.
And I'm like, what if these are just like these?
I don't know,
some sort of hidden code.
You know,
the row,
row,
row your boat one has haunted me,
man.
Like the end of it,
it's like life is about a dream.
What if it is right for right in the matrix was true.
You guys know where the song rain around the roses came from,
but that would be implanted in the Matrix to make you remember.
Yes.
And just to make you not take things so seriously.
It's like it's planting a fucking trail of breadcrumbs to wake you up.
And then just to put you back to sleep.
Do you guys know where that song Ringing Around the Rosie comes from?
Ashes, ashes, we all fall down?
No, where's that one from?
Was that the second world of war?
That was during the plague.
They would get this little red circle.
Ashes, ashes, we all ring around the pocket full of posies.
That means you're dead.
They bury you.
And Ring Around the Rosie, it was the plague.
We all fall down.
Thousands of years, huh?
Or hundreds of years.
I wouldn't touch that
with the 10-foot pole.
That means when somebody came by for food,
they would put a 10-foot pole out and put some
food and give it to the guy that
was diseased. So I wouldn't
touch that with the 10-foot pole.
Yeah.
You guys know where Mind Your Q's
and P's comes from? Mind your Q's and P's comes from?
Mind Your Q's and P's?
Mind your pints and quarts when you're drinking.
P's and Q's.
Mind your P's and Q's.
Don't get too hammered.
Oh, and along that line, do you know what wet your whistle means?
Back in the day, they used to have wooden... This is a children's show.
No, they put a whistle in the cup.
And so when it was empty, you just blew on it.
And the bartender came and filled it up.
So I wet my whistle.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah.
The one I asked about was...
Yeah, like, I used an example.
The stitch in time saves nine, right?
And that's kind of misleading because it sounds like one fluid sentence.
But it's actually like a stitch, comma, in time, comma, saves nine.
Meaning, if you do a little bit of work now, fix the problem before it gets too bad, right?
Or you save nine times as the problems if you just fix it today.
But these things have persisted through time and i think what happens when you
have kids animal is you you say these things and they're like what are you talking about like they
don't have any fucking clue and you have to explain it to them and you realize sometimes
in explaining some things you're like you know i don't even know exactly why we say that and you start thinking about it like what does that mean because it's got this no it's got a scent you know
it you know what it means but you don't you've never really analyzed the statement and it's
like you're looking at it for the first time really right with like yeah attentively. Yeah, I get that. It happens.
I don't have any kids, but I still...
Don't look at the gift horse in the mouth.
Sounds kind of obvious, but you're like,
what the fuck does that mean?
It means
maybe if somebody's giving you something,
don't critique it, maybe, right?
What about don't shit where you're eating?
Just be grateful.
Right.
Don't shit where you eat. Even about don't. Just be grateful. Right. Don't shit where you eat.
Even dogs know better.
Don't bring sand to the beach.
I feel like that's a more recent one.
I've never heard that before.
That's a more recent one.
That means, you know, don't bring your girlfriend to the strip club.
That means, you know, don't bring your girlfriend to the strip club.
That's so funny.
Oh, my God.
It's funny.
I'm not a strip club guy at all.
Honestly, I go there.
I mean, you know.
And I'm always like, the girls would come up like, hey, what's going on?
I'm like, honestly, don't waste your time.
I'm the wrong dude.
I'm just going to sit here and drink beer go talk to
somebody else you know and they're actually usually are pretty they actually i think appreciate that
they're like okay and they just walk away that's why the well i used to work at a titty bar it
wasn't a strip club but i think the titty bars are the best because you can drink and actually
talk instead of oh you're in the wrong state. The state of Ohio. Full nude with alcohol.
I mean, we get full nude here, but
since I worked at a teeter bar,
it never grabbed my attention
since I was already there.
Yep.
Dude, you should come to Montreal, man.
It's full contact over here.
That kind of weird.
It's full nude, and you can
touch them.
I have kind of an interesting strip's full nude and we got, we can, you can touch them. I have,
I have a kind of interesting,
strip club story if you want it.
Oh yeah.
Go for it.
I was in Chicago for a work thing and my boss,
my boss was only a few years older.
Maybe he always just like having a good time.
And we're like,
he was with his wife and we're like,
he's like,
let's go.
He had a limo and he's like,
let's go, let's go strip club or strip club. And we're like, he's like, let's go. He had a limo and he's like, let's go.
Let's go strip club or strip club.
And she was kind of a, like, she was fun.
She was just a fun girl.
She wasn't like into it or anything, but she was like along for the ride.
And we get there and this guy sat next to us.
And this was at a package.
I'm in packaging, right?
The big packaging thing.
And we said, he's sitting next to us and he's talking and he's from Jamaica.
We're like, oh, what are you here for?
He's like, oh, is it this packaging thing?
We're like, oh shit, us too.
You know, we start chatting.
And we're like, what do you do?
He goes, well, I'm the Jamaican bottle king.
And I'm like, okay.
He's like, I make all bottled water, anything that's bottled in in the baham basically
the caribbean we're making the bottles i was here looking at machines and stuff and he was a young
guy he was probably like 25 years old and he had shit tons of money and uh he was buying us bottles
of liquor and shit and uh he bought he basically like rented this VIP room.
It had three girls in there just for however long.
With all the alcohol we could drink.
Just because we sat next to him and talked to him for three minutes.
You know what I'm saying?
It was like a guy who was like... It was almost like one of those people that...
Like he's an ambassador's kid or something.
And just had stupid money and was just looking to spend it.
Keys to the kingdom.
Yeah, this is ridiculous.
That's fucking cool.
But that's probably the last time I went to a strip club.
That was probably 10 years ago.
I don't know.
They're just okay.
They're just not my thing at all.
No, they're fucking lame, actually.
You go in there and it's just
full of desperation.
Yeah, I find it fucking gross.
You know what isn't gross?
And actually kind of entertaining,
burlesque.
That's actually kind of cool.
That's a French thing.
It's actually right, but it's
trending, I think, everywhere.
Most major cities. There's one I want to go to that I haven't yet, but it was trending I think everywhere.
There's one I want to go to that I haven't yet, but it was like a Star Wars
burlesque.
It's got the girl with the blue girl
with the...
Yeah, with the tentacle head.
Yeah. Oh my God, that's my favorite.
You were hoping to see Jar Jar Binks,
weren't you
yeah well that
I'd like to Jar Jar
I'd like to Jar Jar her Binks
you know what I'm saying
for real
Jar Jar Binks
I'm not a Star Wars guy either
don't say Baby Yoda bro
just don't
but there's more of like a performance I guess and there's you know Don't say Baby Yoda, bro. Just don't.
It's more of like a performance,
I guess.
Whatever.
It's less... What's the word I'm looking for?
Cringe?
It's less slimy.
It's not like,
look at these girls.
Sometimes you go strip clubs,
you're like, what is going on
here, man? I gotta get the
fuck out of here.
My parents would
be ashamed of me.
That's what I'm telling you. You go to a
titty bar. Titty bar is better.
See? Yeah, no, you're probably right. You're probably right.
There's like fewer
seminal fluids running around and shit, right?
A hundred percent. Way less. Yeah, it's like a fewer, uh, seminal fluids running around and shit. A hundred percent.
Way less.
Yeah. It's like a Hooters.
Dude, we have this place.
We have this place in Montreal, uh, called cinema.
I move.
It's like cinema of love.
And they basically just show porn.
Right.
At this, at the cinema.
Right.
And it's not like a major street downtown it's like an
adult theater very popular an adult theater yeah and they've got private booths and stuff and shit
and like it's it's been getting really popular like a lot of kids are going there these days
and they'll rent a private booth and they'll just they'll fuck in the booth
and there's like people around watching them and shit you mean you don't mean kids i hope you shouldn't have used that did i say kids yeah you gotta be sorry oh my god well
because i'm thinking like i'm 40 so like you know 20 or 30 year olds and shit obviously older people
too it's not even like on the screen it's just people go watch people oh yeah well there's a lot
of that stuff there's sex no no people like you, you can get a VIP room,
right?
It's basically a love seat.
Right.
And there's like glass dividers between the VIP room.
So you can see the other people in the VIP rooms.
And,
you're watching this,
this porn together with the rest of people in the theater.
There's a bunch of dudes whacking off.
And there's couples, i don't know doing
whatever they want like upstairs like it's anyways so that that's a thing in montreal
i've yet to go and i don't think i ever will but uh you're good things you guys see the guy
they have caught whacking at the corn concert yeah the guy racking up the corn concert. Yeah, the guy racking up the corn concert.
Wasn't Pee Wee Herman
caught in one of those things or something?
And the only reason that...
The only reason Animal was there
was because he got 5% of points
back on his credit card.
That makes perfect sense.
Pee Wee Herman.
Actually, they have really cool t-shirts. And if ever you're in Montreal, you should pick one up. Pee Wee Herman actually they have really cool t-shirts
and if ever you're in
Montreal you should
pick one up
Pee Wee Herman
was caught
I don't
I know what
I just watched
that documentary
about him actually
what was he caught
doing I forget
I don't know
cinema right
yeah he was jerking
in a theater
in a movie
yeah
I think it was
Large Marge
sitting next to him
laughing laughing movie yeah i think it was large marge sitting next to him oh jesus i liked pee with herman man actually it was a really interesting documentary like he was
um i mean he just created that character dude it's kind of wild like that wasn't his
his regular personality was nothing like that. He was
comedic. He was funny as shit.
Because he had a lot of stuff even outside of Pee Wee Herman
after the fact that
was a hit.
One of those guys that everything he
touched went well
for him.
Obviously,
that was my era dude.
I was like 10 when Pee Wee Herman was famous.
Maybe I'm unusual in this crowd.
They definitely are not.
I think I've seen it too.
I used to like Pee Wee's Fun House.
Yeah.
The other guy I think I've changed my mind on is Michael Jackson.
I think I've completely changed on him.
I feel like Hollywood probably tried to ruin him.
Right, you know what I mean?
And he was a child.
I mean, he was definitely going through some shit.
Like, he definitely had, like, his childhood, arrested pretty early on.
Right.
Like,
cause he had all this pressure yet to perform.
So who knows?
Like he's probably,
probably has some issues,
had some issues.
And,
then the skin thing and the plastic surgery and all the money and
probably he had,
I think it was also distrustful of a lot of people.
Have you watched Dave
Chappelle's interview with Oprah
after he went and
went to Africa?
You know what I'm talking about?
It's really interesting.
You know Dave Chappelle, he had that
major TV contract, right?
They were going to pay him 50 mil
and he walked away
from it. And he said, what happened? He goes, they, they basically, he goes right after I was saying
no, and I didn't want to do it. I didn't want to make another season. He's like, cause I was burned
out. I didn't feel like I had any creativity left and I didn't want to make something bad.
And he goes, they really were on me about making it. He goes, they had, they sent me a
doctor who, uh, I'd never met before. And this guy tried to prescribe me on drugs. And they
started saying that I had, I was having a mental breakdown and he goes, they were trying to, you
know, it was trying to make me feel like I was going crazy essentially.
And he goes, I just had, I've just bugged out.
I knew I had to get out of there. And that's all that's going to happen.
He just got out. And then in the news, it's, Oh, Dave Chappelle lost his mind. Right. He went, he doesn't want $50 million. And, uh, he went insane.
And he went and he's like, it was just, you know, and,
and Kanye had the same shit. Like, they've shown some of these doctors.
There's a psychologist that will be assigned to you if you're not playing by the rules, right?
Not playing the game like you should, I guess, might be the best way to put it.
it as in right yeah you're told and um yeah i'm absolutely a believer that these people
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what you're told.
whoever they are exist yeah they got their cash for sure dave chappelle's a cash cow at 50 million
they wouldn't pay him 50 million dollars if he wasn't making him 500 million you know what i'm
saying and so when he said there are ways legally to get people right to do things, to be...
My girlfriend's looking. She's nodding.
She doesn't know what I'm talking about.
Ask me. She knows.
Well, yeah. Hey, come here.
To be declared mentally competent.
Look what happened to Britney Spears. She went fucking nuts
because they had her surrounded all that.
What's the thing
about, you're telling me about
and oh yeah in bc people can get fucking because we were just in bc so in bc people can get
fucking uh made to take anti-psychotic medication if yeah forced treatment they have forced treatment
in bc right if you've got a mental illness um they they can force you to take pills i'm not
sure what the consequences are did Did you ever look into that?
No? Okay.
But apparently there are consequences.
I'm not sure what it is.
Probably just hospitalization.
Well, force is force, right?
They can force you. They're tying you down.
They can inject. Yeah, they'll inject you with it, right?
So that's pretty fucked up.
I like that dude BC by the way
holy shit such a beautiful
place I would like to go but also has
yeah man definitely I would like to go
definitely if I have 500 million
I'm going to BC
alright that's the deal.
Everybody in here, if one of us wins the Powerball,
we're going to BC.
It's all expense paid, okay?
Am I the only one that bought a ticket?
Perfect.
I'm going to Mars.
I have a ticket.
We're 20 minutes away.
I just pulled the ticket out.
One of my numbers in one of them is
Oh, shit.
The Powerball? No, the Powerball
can't be 69.
My Powerballs are 12, 16,
25, and 7.
Do you have any of those?
Only the 7.
All right, let's hope.
No, I don't want to win with you.
Imagine we have to split it.
Dude, okay, let's take some odds on that.
What would be the odds that me and Chief both win
and we're the only two winners?
That'd be the longest odds in the history of anything that's ever happened.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
Four out of 15 of my Powerball numbers are 22.
You've only got one ticket?
I know I did 15 tickets, but four out of the 15 Powerball members are 22.
Really?
I'm looking for a 22.
22 was probably the best time I had in my 20s.
I had my 20s.
22 was the best year.
Okay, for real though, bro.
I think it was 22.
What do you think your physical reaction would be?
I would throw up immediately.
I know, but that might happen anyway from all the crowd.
I don't throw up the good shit.
I would probably do a lot of illegal stuff.
No, but I mean just in the moment.
That's why.
You think you would get like like would you be sweating and like
need to like go take a shit or
something like I feel like your body would
be convulsing like holy fuck
convulsing that's the word
you're right like what's
happening
it'd be hard to wrap
your head around it
I will go to a lot of places
where it says do not enter.
I'm going to make an angle to get
to... What's the
Alex Jones place? Where'd he go?
Where the elites
worship
Malak or something like that?
That's up in your neck of the woods, the Rand.
What's that place?
Jekyll Island, no?
No, not Jekyll Island. You're talking about where they woods, the Rand. What's that place? Jekyll Island, no? Yeah, no, not Jekyll Island.
You're talking about where they sacrifice owls or something.
Bohemian Grove.
Yeah, it's in, yeah.
Yeah, I'm going to Bohemian Grove.
I'm going to do some investigative reporting.
Bohemian Grove.
No, I would nuke that place if I had 500 mil.
It is amazing that somebody who gets rich doesn't,
I mean, Elon's been the craziest rich person we've ever had.
Am I right?
Maybe Howard Hughes, maybe.
But as far as just shaking shit up and willing to do and say anything and not play the game,
I don't know if anybody's been comparable to him.
Have they?
Did you see Elon's post last week of the Silver Surfer?
Like what? You know,
Elon mentions Doge and it pumps
and it drops. I don't want Elon
to mention silver. It'll
skyrocket then crash. I want Elon
to shut up. Don't even talk
about silver.
Just me. He'll only
be talking about silver when he wants
the price to drop because he needs it in his satellites
or something.
He needs it in his batteries or something.
Yeah.
Elon, he's the
king of the day.
Sorry, is he now... Oh, I see the
Cinema L'Amour.
Is he officially in good graces
with Trump or are they kind of officially broken up forever?
It's a show.
It's a game plan theory, and you don't know.
They'll be lovers again one day.
If I'm going to be honest about crypto,
I feel like, and why Litecoin feels this way too,
it could be a long dark era it's been a long park no I think it could be it could be much longer and much darker
until we start getting adoption meaning like people actually you know now we're
now we're at the point where like AI is going to start taking shit over
and it's going to start solving the problems that we didn't even know
we had
I'm afraid that it's never going to get a shot
you know what I mean
this is one of the things you might sit there and say that's why
gold is and again I'm not saying this is a
I've not bought any gold or anything
where you go gold
is of the real world
right
and that might give it an appeal that
is hard to match
physical cash might do the same thing
I wouldn't be surprised if physical cash
has a 5% premium in the next
10 to 15 years
we're all looking for adoption
everybody's looking for adoption but how do adoptions happen?
They're negotiating with the state.
They have this child.
The couple comes up and there's negotiation.
Then adoption happens all at once.
Adoption is going to happen to Litecoin.
And so all at once.
We need AI to adopt Litecoin.
We need those AI agents.
When they start taking our jobs and running their own businesses and shit,
starting their own businesses,
they need to be able to transact in Litecoin.
I think that's, yeah, that's the adoption we need.
It's programmatic, man.
This is, this is cryptocurrencies were currencies designed for machines first,
in a sense,
because it's their native language.
Ooh, there's an interesting mind experiment.
Will machines negotiate with each other?
Like, you go do this.
Not because it's the logical thing. maybe there are tasks that become very like
there is no obvious
right person
to do it, right robot to do it
they try to incentivize
each other to
I don't know
I would think it'd be like war games
when they make that machine play itself
I mean it's been a long since I've seen that movie I would think it'd be like war games, you know, when they make that machine play itself. Okay.
I mean, it's been a long time since I've seen that movie, but yeah.
Look at this.
Look at this brain experiment.
Will they actually work?
I mean, why wouldn't they?
They're intelligent beings.
Every being is designed to conserve energy and preserve itself over others
aren't they?
is that why I'm fat?
yeah you're conserving
you're ready for the apocalypse
apocalyptic
what would that be?
this is a picture of you
with your gut out
ready for the apocalypse
oh shit that's funny with your gut out ready for the apocalypse.
Oh, shit, that's funny.
Alright, so, okay, Chief,
I want to get back to sports for a second.
NFL starts this week.
Well, it starts this week. Tomorrow.
Well, who plays tomorrow?
I'm not even looking.
The Eagles and the Cowboys.
So you said you want to watch football, though, with me.
We can watch reruns, but because I don't think we can watch live games
because we're going to get bad and shit.
Well, that and I don't usually try to spend my Sunday afternoons.
Yeah, that's on me.
That's why we can watch, read ones and shit.
That'd be better.
Are the Cowboys going to be good this year?
I mean, they're eight and a half hundred dogs.
We're not going to be good
until Jerry Jones sells the team.
You're either at a casino
or you got an ice cream man outside.
Ice cream.
It's kind of nice.
We get that occasionally here.
Well, anyway.
Yeah, who are the Giants?
I'm not even paying attention, dude.
I need to get my act together.
I think the Giants are going to be respectable this year.
You know?
I think they're going to go
7-9. And Jackson Dart's going to go seven and nine.
And Jackson Dart's going to start the last
two games.
I think he's going to be like Eli's and start like last eight.
Oh shit.
Yeah.
They're going to start out like,
I don't know,
three and seven.
We'll have a promising finish.
They'll go four and two.
And I'll be like,
they're going to the super bowl.
Then you should hit the under. I think they're
estimated 8 wins.
Really?
That's actually
surprising to me.
Very surprising.
They don't have an offense.
Although somebody said their defense is really really good so maybe
anyway five games five and a half games damn dude do we ever talk about the light coin xrp
feud that's going on right now no do you want to talk about that yeah let's let's get into it so
what happened uh light coin who initiated i'm assuming the litecoin um yeah all right i think it started
with them calling uh xrp xr penis right keep that classy i think that might have been one of the
first jabs that they took at xrp and um xrp got like well the xrp army got really salty and said uh you know that you're a dino
coin you're dead coin blah blah charlie sold out hey guys i need uh you can keep talking but i gotta
check out for a second i'll help my daughter with a math problem i'll let you know if i
you're checking your powerball tickets aren't you huh you're just gonna check your problems okay i
thought it was 11. never mind okay no i'll let
you know so yeah this whole this whole xrp thing bro like it's they're just they're angry they
hate us because they hate us you know what i mean um i don't know whoever's into xrp
i feel like doesn't know enough about crypto to appreciate what makes
Litecoin and Bitcoin,
Litecoin and Bitcoin.
Right.
I mean,
anyone else here think that XRP shit?
I'll be honest with you.
Anything that has to do with banking,
I don't care.
They,
they,
they lost,
they lost the fight already.
If you thinking about banking and crypto, you lost the fight.
The same thing with crypto and politicians.
Anybody that mentions crypto and politicians, they lost the fight.
You're supposed to go away from government, but whatever.
I mean, and that's the thing.
It just seems so dumb.
They're like, yeah, XRP is going to replace Swift. Really? XRP is going to replace Swift. In what timeline are you living in? What kind of delusion have you been fed?
Now the banks, they collect fees, right?
For every intermediary that a SWIFT transaction goes through.
They'll have like three different types of banks
collecting fees off of your one transaction.
Why would they get rid of that?
You know?
And why would they make,
why would they give someone else the fees?
Like on top of it, like it just,
it seems impossible and it seems like, yeah, you're right.
Like why would you want to like enable the banking system it's not the point of crypto the crypt the point of crypto is to kill the banks right to get rid of the the middle man
and to make it peer-to-peer i just think it's ridiculous and man like who was johnny light coin posted something today
about there being like all like because the xrp army is like yeah we got more transactions than
likely but you look at the transactions and they're like for fractions of fractions of a penny
you know it's like 0.00061 of a penny like okay so you got like a billion transactions
who the fuck is making these transactions johnny's been killing those posts do you see his battle
with the xrp army he's he's slaying them he's doing a hell of a job man like yeah i've been
on vacation so kind of half away from from x and actually pretty much like away from my phone
but yeah he's been doing from what i have seen his videos have been great i hope they're getting
lots of views um because yeah he's pointing out the facts man he's pointing out some shit
that's just like yo if you're fucking if you're drinking this xrp kAid man, you should wake the fuck up. Like,
here's another beautiful thing.
Rather not.
This is kind of a fair thing for like when,
but Jim Cramer
tweeted that
XRP would hit $10.
There's no way XRP will hit $10.
Right?
if you believe in the whole
inverse Cramer thing, it means that XRP will hit $10. Right. So if you believe in the whole inverse Kramer thing,
it means that XRP will hit $10. I find it hard to believe, but you know what, it is possible.
Um, but it's crazy how much XRP these guys are liquidating, man. Like they're selling
millions and millions of XRP when it pumps, you know what I mean? And no one seems to give a shit.
At least not the media.
You know what I mean?
It's just people praising XRP.
Like, oh yeah, they're going to be doing this.
They're going to be doing that.
This bank's looking at that.
This investment firm's looking at this.
Like, okay, okay.
You got a fucking decentralized database?
No, it's a centralized database.
It runs on garbage and people shouldn't buy it.
People should revolt against it.
But you know what?
The people that I know in real life that love XRP,
we're just late to Bitcoin.
You know? And they're thinking, okay. that love xrp we're just late to bitcoin you know
and they're thinking okay this thing has a potential because bitcoin it's where i was you know it's for drug dealers but xrp is legit and uh that's why and they're like yeah you see
i told you all along this is this stuff is for criminals you gotta get something that's why and they're like yeah you see i told you all along this is this stuff is for criminals
you got to get something that's uh you know what the government says it's okay that my bank says
is cool you know something safe something you know based on on trust the trust i have for the system
this is trusted by the system and therefore i trust XRP. I don't trust anything.
I don't trust centralized anything.
Right on. Right on. Yeah. That's, I wish more people thought that way.
You're not religious. Are you?
Okay. I have a relationship relationship i don't do religion you have a relationship with your with with god or something right yeah jesus but as far as a
religion no none of it it's all stupid all of it exactly it's well at the end of the day it's fucking it becomes corrupt right
i don't know if it was one of you guys that told me this yeah because man is involved if man is
involved this will become corrupt you got to get rid of anything that man does with a religion
stop it yeah let me know if you heard this before, but I heard that
priests were not
allowed to marry in the Catholic faith
because the church didn't want
to give them
Because they wanted
to keep all the money
to the church.
Yep.
You're the guy that told me that.
That's fucked up, man.
That's okay
very good my young padawan okay see i'm learning um but that's that's fucked up bro and like yeah
look there's a lot of a lot of lessons to be learned in the bible for sure and i think um
Bible for sure. And I think, um, there's like a lot of these, all these lessons have to be passed
on somehow. And I think a book like the Bible or whatever religious texts that you might have,
I mean, is provides an immense value to humanity. Um, what's up, Jose?
to humanity.
What's up, Jose?
Hey, how's it going?
You had your hand up, so I saw it.
What's up, dude?
Yeah, yeah, I was going to ask.
So y'all were talking about the XRP LTC feud that's happening right now.
What's so bad about XRP
other than it being
centralized
to me that's it
that's the bad thing
that's it
the XRP foundation
or whatever they possess like
80% of
their tokens or whatever you call it
the Ripple foundation
owns 80% of the XRP or whatever the ripple foundation yeah the rip owns 80% of the
XRP or whatever the fuck oh and that's why they keep unlocking is that why yeah
they keep selling it when the price comes I think they've got like ties with
the median shit so you know they'll they'll fucking tell their media buddies
okay yeah pump it and when it hits hits a certain amount we'll give you a bunch of shit
and then they dump it and they're like keep pumping it keep pumping it
so is that the reason why the market cap is so high because only about 20 percent of the supply
is in circulation exactly yeah yeah you got it that's crazy you got it no it's bogus man it's super bogus it's been going on for
so many it's like what it almost as old as fucking is it as old as ethereum close to
and it's just like they haven't fucking done anything with it man like what the fuck is it
even doing it's like it's worse than cardano you know what i mean it's it's worth more it's just
like what have they built on it i haven't seen anything i i can't see any value to this fucking
thing all they've heard is a bunch of empty promises same fucking empty promises year after
year and just people fucking pumping it
on social media,
not knowing the first thing about crypto.
Right.
Yeah.
I feel like this is a signal that we're still at the very beginning of crypto
because XRP is still alive,
but I love that light coin.
That light coin account is fucking talking shit to it. what are they going to fucking do to light coin what like light coins
un-fucking-touchable light coins got fucking all this hash rate dude if anyone can do it the bitcoin
community could do it too but if anyone can do it and should do it it's fucking light coin um
it's because of the perfect example of what xrp wishes it was you know like a
decentralized currency that was you know had decent transaction speed that could serve the world
population um but yeah it isn't it isn't decentralized there's no use case for it
besides like what alleviating stress from the banking cartels.
Bullshit.
Like they're never going to go for this.
Never.
They're just if they if they do like listen to some investor fucking proposal or whatever, they do like tests and stuff like that.
I'm sure it's just because someone on the back end is fucking doing insider trading.
And that's it.
They're going to publish a report.
Be like, yeah, we're publishing a report soon. they're going to announce the publishing of the report they're
going to fill their bags up and they're going to publish reports saying it's
bullish they're going to dump on everyone and then nothing's going to happen
like once they make their bag they're just going to like forget about it
until the next cycle until people forget and then they just reset the scam
Until the next cycle, until people forget, and then they just reset the scam.
I don't like it.
I never liked it.
Sorry, aren't more people waking up to the difference between centralization and decentralization?
I think I saw a report the other day where there was close to like a trillion
dollars or something
in DeFi that was being
transacted.
So I'm wondering...
Hey, y'all.
That's interesting.
I got bad news, bro.
I didn't win the Powerball.
Oh, fuck.
Oh, man.
No trip to BC.
The Powerball was fine to BC. Powerball.
The actual Powerball.
What about you, Dorend?
Are you rich now?
You're having me the numbers if you got them.
Ready?
Eight.
Yeah.
Eight.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I take that back.
Hang on.
I got a new pin. That take that back. I apologize.
That was Powerball September 1st.
Google is two minutes behind.
It didn't give me the most recent one.
Let me click onto the website.
I might be rich.
How would I do that?
I'll tell you.
My daughter's a huge.
You got 22 of that?
Oh, the website's crashed.
The website won't come up.
I guess you're getting that money anytime soon.
Oh my gosh, it's funny. The website won't pull up.
That's how jam-packed it is right now.
All right, ready, go.
Eight?
That's from last week, I'm telling you.
Their Powerball site right now,
it says literally 429.608, too many requests.
There's too many people trying to...
Man, AI can't even give me Powerball numbers.
Can't you go to like a local news website or something?
They usually post them on there.
No, actually my daughter, I feel like a dummy.
My daughter brought me this.
Like, okay.
She brought me like, what is, it gave me like, here's a decimal and it's a repeating decimal
and you have to figure out what the fraction is.
And I was like, one of them, I knew it just because I knew it.
And the other one, I was like, I actually don't know how to figure this out.
So I had to go to Google to tell me.
They're still not up, man.
I think it crashed.
I think the internet, we broke the internet guys.
It's because of this show.
That's why so many people were checking the Powerball tickets.
I got it.
I got it.
I got it.
Dude,
rant Powerballs 22.
No way.
I got four chances.
Ready?
Well,
yeah,
ready to go.
First two numbers are three16 like john 316
nice this would be beautiful and it's got a 69 in it what if you won yeah all right ready 316
29 61 69 22 is the powerball god i hope you're a billionaire, dude. Give me a minute.
I'll let you know in about two months if I am.
You'll get a monster box of platinum eagles.
Oh, all right.
It's only 35,000, right?
A monster box of platinum eagles.
I don't even know.
I don't even know.
Damn, dude.
A monster box of gold eagles.
22 is the power number?
Are you kidding me? No.
Then you say you had five of them?
It is. I've got four of them.
What do you win? 20 bucks if you just
win that number?
I might break even.
It's not what I'm looking for.
I'm going to silence myself and go
check the numbers.
It's so perfect for you. How. All right. I'm going to silence myself and go check the numbers. Oh, dude.
It was so perfect for you.
How old are you?
Are you 61?
Oh, okay.
In two months.
It was 316.
And then there was a 61 and a 69.
I was like, holy shit.
What?
That's his age.
And then it's like birthday.
John 316.
Perfect.
All right.
Come back and tell us, man.
It crashed again.
I tried to reload, and it didn't work.
So I got lucky to get in there.
Oh, here.
I got it.
You want me to tell you?
I think if he doesn't come back, that means he won.
He had a heart attack.
He shat himself right in the floor.
That's probably...
I got 16.
All right.
Stop talking about me until I count.
You want me to read them again?
I think that's funny.
I wrote them down.
Remember, he said 22 earlier, man. That's funny.
I got four of those.
That's so funny.
Good for you, man.
I'm glad.
Like we were talking earlier, I didn't want to give all that money to the government.
Like, it is funny.
I have a question for you.
Is 22 a Power World number and a regular number?
No, no.
Okay, okay.
Well, read them again.
It's three.
Number three, as in three. Okay, okay. Well, read them again. It's three, number three, as in three.
16, 316.
As in John.
Yep, John 316.
How's that one go?
You want to recite that to me?
For God so loved even everybody.
He so loved the world.
Yep, everybody.
That he gave up his only begotten son that who are to believe in
him should not perish,
but have everlasting life.
I got that one down.
All right.
Three,
29 is next.
Three,
Yeah.
69. Yeah. And then the 22 is a big one. Yeah. 6169.
Yeah.
And then the 22 is the big one.
Yeah, 22 is the big one.
All right.
I got it.
There's a lot of...
Yeah.
All right.
I'll be back.
I got a bunch to check.
It'd be so perfect if the Rand was the fucking winner.
It'd be like Litecoin Summit. He shows up,
he's got gold teeth and shit.
Platinum teeth.
Platinum teeth.
Oh my god.
What must happen to people?
I would love that to be a reality show.
I fabricate gold teeth
at work, so let me know if you want some, okay?
Oh, that's right.
You're in that industry, right?
No, like, what an entertaining television show.
If you had a reality show to follow people who just won the lottery.
Wouldn't that be funny?
I don't think.
Yeah, imagine.
How they go from riches to being poor again?
Yeah, they used to do like on Oprah,
they would have a,
I don't know,
they would always profile some guy who won the lottery
and then three years later is living in a dumpster or something,
you know?
It's like gamblers don't stop being gamblers probably generally.
So most people who play a lot are your gamblers.
And so it's likely they're just going to lose it all.
I have a question.
Yeah.
I have a 22 in the first five.
And then the 22 is the Powerball.
You already asked this question.
Does that make a difference?
Nope.
Nope?
Okay.
As you were.
I don't know.
I don't work in the Lottery Commission.
I'm just making shit up.
AI says that around 30% goes broke of the lottery winners.
There's a myth.
There's a guy.
There's a myth that 70% go broke, but it says 30%.
There's a brother and sister kind a myth that 70% go broke, but it says 30%. There's a brother and
sister kind of grew up in my neighborhood and their uncle twice won the state lottery. That
was like $4 million, which first of all, you go, why are you playing the lottery? You already won
four mil. What are you thinking? Or that dude, there's a video of a guy. I think it's in Australia.
You guys had to have seen
this before where he wins a scratch off he wins like 200 grand in a scratch off oh and they record
him and he scratches off again yes yeah they're doing like oh just act like you're you know doing
it so that we can get the you know the content for the bureau news yeah and he's like, holy shit. Like, I won again.
They're like, no way.
It was great.
There are people that are certainly lucky.
I mean, if there's unlucky people, there's lucky people.
Right?
Ooh, okay, that's a good question.
Here you go.
What are your, over your lifetime?
What's the middle, regular?
Well, let's say you've,
you could be a,
whatever.
You could bet NFL your whole life and win.
Some people probably win 52,
53% of the time.
Actually,
there's probably guys that win 60% of the time.
Just be lucky,
literally lucky because it is a 50,
50 chance.
Yeah.
It's only 50,
So there, if every guy out there
that wins 55%
of the time, there's somebody
who's winning 45%
of the time.
And so we're all on one side of the equation
or the other, to some degree.
degree nobody's exactly 50 50 so overall do you think you're 50 50 and i was saying just gambling
Nobody's exactly 50-50.
just in life oh no yeah i'm pretty i mean i'm not rich or don't have anything but you're pretty
blessed yeah i'm pretty i'm pretty blessed yeah yeah i've always felt the same way yeah i think
most people probably feel like man there's a you might not be 50 50 but you're not like you're not 30 70 right yeah no
it may not be you might your life not be great but it ain't gone
to shit yeah you got both your feet and everything correct my dick still goes up so we're good well so what do i do i'm trying to figure out what to do with this channel by the way or this
whatever you want to call it you guys know i've been so busy i didn't even talk to cake wallet
they messaged me and i've just been like i'm saying respond to him because i'm just
busy or i'll be like hey i'm trying to figure shit out and i don't know what to do i really don't i mean i feel bad
even because we're just nobody's even tuning in anyway even if we're doing stuff and it's like
i kind of just like doing this for fun you know and i kind of this is kind of my intention just to
do this and do it for fun if people show up up, great. If they don't, so be it.
You know what I mean?
What do you guys think about that?
I'm with you, brother.
Once you start doing this shit for a job,
it starts getting dreadful.
So if you do it for fun,
you're always going to be excited.
Well, I mean, this is just chatting, right?
There's actually a guy I was... what's his name tx txmc you know I'm talking about I engage with him a little bit and he gets back to me he's got 90,000 followers I'm true I'm surprised he acknowledges me even right
and I messaged him just like hey it'd be cool if you ever came in. I'd want to have a talk. He talks crypto sometimes.
And,
I like his overall vision of it essentially.
And,
that's fun.
But like when,
like you said,
when it becomes where I feel like I have to find someone I want to talk to,
that sucks.
That's just like,
or not that I don't want to but it's like it's a chore
and if it comes about organically or i have a good engagement with somebody i'm like hey
why don't you come in spaces then that's fun right when you're just doing it just yeah you
feel obligated to do it and i and i mean we didn't have that many guests i didn't want to talk to
i'll be honest
no I agree but I'm not saying that I'm just saying that like the chore of getting the times together
and then feeling like do I want to put it on camera and you know if it was just hey come and
talk to spaces that's so much more fun to me then yeah I totally get that then i'm gonna yeah so the camera thing really i really don't like it
and i wish yeah you're a radio guy and what i had talked about before we were doing this
remember i was saying like i kind of just want to i don't even want to look at the i don't want to
look i don't mind you guys being on camera i don't mind being on camera but i don't like
seeing myself it's like it distracts me are you ugly i don't like seeing myself. It's like it distracts me. Are you ugly? I don't like seeing yourself either, bro.
Yeah, we've been meaning to tell you that.
No, so you know what I'm saying?
It's like I look at myself or I'm looking at you and I'm more conscious of your facial expressions where, yeah, I'd rather just kind of listen and talk. And I think when people can't see each other, also with this element, they're more likely
to say something, you know, they feel more comfortable, I guess, to just be themselves.
And that to me is more fun. So that's all, that's all. That's me checking in with Chief and Animal
after I changed everything and threw the audience away. You know, I could could go back but i don't know that it mattered i i've been
surprised how um you know i share with that market light coin group and i'm surprised nobody comes in
here even when i title it with something light coin because there's so little going on with
crypto at least with light coin and twitter spaces i'm just surprised they're not there's a ton going
on bro there's like fucking the light
coin computer bro they just released some shit you can build your own smart contracts on their
stuff i've been meaning to look well but they have twitter spaces they don't have twitter spaces
i'm still the only person that has anything to do with light coin here's the thing though, man.
Once the price pumps,
people will come.
People will come.
People don't fucking give a
shit because they think we're a bunch of
losers because the price is low.
And then when the price pumps, they'll be like,
oh wait, these guys were geniuses all along.
They're going to want
to be our friends.
It's that simple.
See, that's why I don't want to be light coins and fake friends.
Yeah, I was about to say the same thing.
I really don't care, bro, if people don't like me or not.
But here's the thing.
Right now, dude, right now, the people that are talking here,
we know they're the fucking real ones.
That is true.
When a $1,000 light coin comes in, we know who the the fucking real ones. That is true. When a thousand dollar Litecoin comes in,
we know who the fuck to talk to.
We'll be the ones
fucking being like, okay, this guy's cool.
You're a new face.
You sound like a scammer or whatever.
That's true.
In Bitcoin, that had to happen.
There had to be people going.
Spaces weren't really a thing.
That Litecoin has been over 100?
A couple of years, I think.
We've been over 100 for years?
No, we haven't.
I would say
for 21, 22, right?
Days or weeks.
It was never up there long.
May of 21. April to May of 21 we got up to like whatever 330 something 340 i think it stayed over 100
all the way through like uh the s the ftx crash which was like november of 23 or something.
I think I'm going to say a year and a half.
I bet you we stayed at least a year and a half,
maybe more like 20 months, 23 months. Who's got a chart?
Come on, go look at the chart.
I'm going to say from April of 21 through November of 23,
it stayed over $100.
Oh, no way. No, yeah way that'd be a year and a half
that'd be like 19 months
I think that's the answer
am I even close
nobody's looking
Jesus you guys are the worst audience
I'm already in bed bro
hold on god dang no you're right was I really I'm already in bed, bro. Hold on.
God dang.
No, you're right.
You're right.
You're right.
Was I really?
Yeah.
I went through it.
I went through it real quick.
Yeah.
You're right.
April 2021.
Are you serious?
I nailed it?
Yeah.
I don't know if that's the only time, but that's a time.
You said the longest. You're like, what's the longest it's been over? Yeah. So I don't know if that's the longest time, but that's a time. You said the longest.
You're like, what's the longest it's been over 100?
Yeah, so I don't know if that's the longest, but that is a time that it went that way.
How many months is that?
Let me see.
So if you look at it, if you go to January of 2021, all the way to January of 2022, it was still at over
100.
It was the FTX.
We didn't get the Luna crash
Hurt Litecoin
in May of whatever.
Remember that?
May 2022.
It didn't go under 100, I think.
The FTX crash
was the one that just crushed everything.
And that's, yeah.
I remember that.
I like how people get mad.
They're like, oh, this fucking guy, he went out and he sold.
Or whatever.
He was scamming.
And it wouldn't have crashed without all this paper Bitcoin.
It's like, well, yeah, but it also wouldn't have gone up with all the fake paper Bitcoin either.
You know what I'm saying?
That's the whole point.
It didn't exist, you know?
What a time was it, man?
That was a wild time.
I regret.
I kind of do regret not buying Bitcoin that time when it crashed.
Before COVID.
Or during COVID.
Oh, yeah, yeah, of course.
It hit 3K.
I remember having the button ready to press buy
and I didn't press buy.
How about Litecoin during that time frame?
Me too.
$25, $25.
Correct, yeah.
I was all glad.
I was like, I'm getting,
I'm like, Trump just bought me whatever, 100 Litecoin.
Remember he was giving out, I mean, this is after the fact,
they gave like $2,500 checks for
COVID era?
Yes, correct. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I had two kids, man.
It was, it was Luke, I think I made like, I think I made like 10 grand that year from the government.
What a system.
What a fucking ridiculous system.
Yeah, it's got to change, man.
I don't know how we get it to change.
But it's not like you're saying.
It ain't just playing nice with finance bros.
And I think if you're going to change anything,
things have got to get a lot worse before they're getting any better.
All right.
How about that?
I love the reaction.
Sorry.
I agree.
Actually, my daughter watched Hamilton this last weekend.
I watched it.
I don't know if you've ever seen it.
It's all right.
It's all right.
Whatever.
And I've always felt like it's ironic that they idolized the guy who
insisted on the National Bank, you know?
And then somebody had a post.
I don't know if you follow what I'm saying.
Alexander Hamilton, you know, was the guy who wanted the Fed, a national bank to exist,
a national currency and everything.
And he's the one that gets idolized in a Broadway play.
But who's the one?
There's a movie out, right, as well.
Yeah, not Zachary Taylor.
I'm going to forget Andrew Jackson. He's the guy that there's a movie out right as well. Yeah. Not Zachary Taylor. I'm a forget Andrew Jackson.
He's the guy that ended the national bank and he's more,
he's more demonized.
Like he's known for being an Indian killer basically.
Right.
so his legacy has nothing to do with the fact that he like created an
independent money system where these locals like States had their own currencies, you know, local local states had their own currencies.
Local localities had their own monies.
I don't know if you know this about the history
of the U.S., but
every little city, every town
had its own currency for a while.
For probably a five-year period.
And I'm sure it created
tons of fucking mayhem, but
you had a
wildly decentralized monetary system in the United States for created tons of fucking mayhem, but you know, you had a, uh,
a wildly decentralized monetary system in the United States for a period of time.
And it's never talked about,
but the guy who created the federal bank,
he's idolized.
Yeah.
It's a conspiracy. I haven't seen it, but, um, it's all right. It't seen it but um it's all right it's it seems like that
it's okay the timing is pretty appropriate with all this bitcoin stuff
one day they're gonna have a satoshi they're gonna have a satoshi broadway show bro or probably
like charlie lee broadway they're the one in the same, bro.
Maybe.
I wouldn't doubt it.
I think there will be a Satoshi reveal someday.
No way.
What if they prove it was
the FBI?
The CIA?
Yeah, whatever. What if it's Charlie Lee and, you know, the FBI? The CIA?
Yeah, whatever.
Yeah.
What if it's Charlie Lee and we all have selfies with him?
That'd be pretty cool.
But no, I think if it is like the CIA,
that's going to be redacted forever.
Even the JFK files just got, just got unsealed or whatever released.
And they still redacted
everything useful.
Right?
So, we're never
going to know. Do you know how the CIA...
Do you know this about the CIA?
Okay, what's
the most evil thing you could imagine
a CIA agent doing?
Sabotaging someone's life or something to get them to keep quiet about a certain subject.
I don't know.
Killing children or something, right?
Eating children, that'd be evil, right?
Something like that.
Eating.
Okay.
What about Agent Orange?
Was that a CIA op, and that was just the U.S. Army?
Yeah, that was a chemical used in, what, Vietnam or something like that?
Right.
It was a pesticide, right, that they used to kill the jungle?
No, the CIA ran like a satanic child sex cult.
What?
It was in Virginia.
Let me find out.
It was like a honeypot?
No, no.
They just participated.
Virginia, CIA.
What did I just say?
Satanic death cult?
Satanic sex cult?
Yeah.
You're going to find out something the finders okay I guess where that might not be at home the sound I want oh my Oh, man.
Yeah, it's called The Finders.
It's called The Finders. Hang on a second.
So you have to look up
CIA and The Finders.
Like, why don't you think that?
I mean, come on, they were mind-controlling people, right?
Like Ted Kaczynski and
Charles Manson, right?
If you say, I don't know.
You didn't know that? Ted Kaczynski,
Unabomber, he was part of the
MKUltra experiments?
Oh, he was, yeah, he was a sleeper.
I'm not
super familiar with that, to be honest.
But it makes sense.
I think there's a lot of people that are fucking MKUltrid.
But yeah, apparently there were some,
a group called The Finders
that would have satanic rituals,
child abuse, child pornography, and stuff.
And some CIA agents either created it or were maybe overzealous investigators.
Let's put it that way.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let me look that up.
I'm going to get some more information.
Let me see what I can find.
I've got to find, you know, you've got got to dig for you can't just listen to Wikipedia.
You're in bed listening to this?
This is creepy.
I'm about to pass out, bro.
Shan, get his account back?
What?
How did Shan get his account back?
Oh, yeah, that's right.
You said you want to interview Shan, huh?
Yeah, how did he get his account back? That's what I want to know.
Because the LTC community was going to give you views if you were to interview him.
Oh, that's true. Yeah, sorry. I don't know why. If people don't want to show up, they don't want to show up.
I think people will show up again.
I don't know when.
Maybe I got gotta go back
just to be underground.
I'm not doing a crypto.
I'm not tying myself to a coin anymore.
I just don't like it.
I'm done with it.
I feel like it feels like a shill,
so I don't want to be that shill.
But I could be underground again.
But I don't know if that would matter.
People just dropped off,
you know?
Yeah,
I think the whole,
Trump and Elon thing also really,
a lot of people left X.
Yeah.
if you are still here,
just a crypto.
Yeah.
People have spaces in general.
Yeah.
Well,
okay.
You know,
I'm not, I'm going to actually retract.
I'm looking at stuff and it's like,
there's kind of some conflicting things that the finders with CIA is quote
unquote, a conspiracy.
But for some reason I know that they were,
I know they were investigating it and I feel like I heard somewhere that there
were some CIA agents that were very actively involved.
Yeah, overzealous.
That might be the best use of the phrase.
So I'm not going to stick to that one.
But I wouldn't doubt, you know, that they've certainly set people up to be killed and, you know, willingly traffic people thinking they're doing it for the greater good kind of thing.
You know?
Nope.
Totally, dude.
I thought they were responsible for Chernobyl.
I heard there was a conspiracy theory.
Yeah, like when they sent some inspectors to check it out
and they did some sabotage,
and that's how Chernobyl fucking melted down.
No way.
I guess, you know, why wouldn't it, right?
Let me just check Google.
I know that they...
Okay, again, I say I know.
I watched something.
I want to say it was even PBS or something where you know the CIA was
monkeying with the Iranian
nuclear power
facilities so that they couldn't get nuclear power
you know what I'm talking about
like actively throttling their
or what would they call it
I would call it like
a soft sabotage of things just to prevent
them from getting
accomplishing anything. What do you mean? Like a computer virus? No, they would,
they were like live, I would say it like live, I don't want to say live streaming.
They were, you know, it was like, they were, uh, actively able to manipulate their, uh,
They were actively able to manipulate their reactors and even their sensors, might be the best way to say it.
So Iran's trying to develop nuclear energy in the CIA's and they're making the fans speed up, the fans slow down.
Sabotaging things within the environment or making it look like the core
temperature was going up when it wasn't or something like that right right right they
did they were all fucking gaslit from across yeah no well they they did have this like stux
stuxnet you remember that thing oh yes yes yes yes that sounds extreme that virus
right so that was that was like a cia u.s government type of shit because the only people Yes, yes, yes, yes. That sounds extreme. That virus, right?
So that was like a CIA, US government type of shit.
There's no million people capable of doing it.
So, yeah, Stuxnets was in there fucking with their shit.
How it got into a closed system, nobody knows.
So that means they had an agent in there
that had intimate knowledge of their network
and their infrastructure.
That's so fast, dude.
That was 15 years ago.
Yeah.
That seems like ancient history.
When you said that,
I was thinking that was like late 90s.
15 years, eh?
Holy shit.
That makes sense.
Well, that was the Obama era, wasn't it?
Okay, so today we are much further away from COVID beginning
than the bull run of 2017.
COVID was only two years and four months after the bull run of 2017.
And it's been five years since COVID.
Six years, five and a half years since COVID started.
So we're twice as far away from COVID than the bull run was from COVID.
In 2017.
Right?
Isn't that crazy?
That's wild.
I would have thought... 2017 seems like literally
forever ago.
Were you 30 in 2017?
Bitch, it ain't that long ago.
2009, dude.
Damn, I am old.
How old are you, Chief?
Oh, you're old too.
Fuck you.
That's what I said.
The fuck?
But you're still nine years younger than me.
I think the Rand won $100 billion.
Well, for sure he won $2 because he had the Powerball number.
He left.
He literally left the space.
I'm going to check my – oh, no, here he is.
How much do you win?
I had – well, if I won $2 for the Powerball number, I have $8.
There you go.
No way.
Okay, wait.
How much?
You get $2 for the Powerball. I thought it was more than that. No, you get $20. There you go. No way. Okay, wait. How much You get two bucks for the Powerball.
I thought it was more than that.
No, you get two bucks.
Let me verify.
Oh, if you match only the
Powerball number, you win
Oh, $4.
So you have $16.
Line it.
52% of my investable money. $4. So you have $16. Lying ass bitch, dude.
52% of my investable money.
There you go.
I lost 10. Put in 10, I lost 10.
I'll take it.
Are we going to the Bahamas?
Or what?
It's like we said, if we win Powerball,
you're funding a trip to Vancouver.
So you won Powerball as far as I'm concerned.
I want to throw some loonies at some strippers.
Yeah.
I'll drink even the Crown Royal since it's Canadian whiskey and all.
Actually, dude, Crown Royal men, they're fucking...
Oh, I know.
Doug Ford.
One of my best childhood friends.
His name is Doug Ford, by the way, which is pretty funny.
We always laugh about that. But, yeah,
he was, what were they doing? Porn out?
He was pouring one out for his homies.
Fucking
the whole bottle took him two minutes.
I can't believe
he's still in politics. Didn't he get caught?
Didn't he get caught on cocaine and
strippers and everything? That was his brother,
dude. That was his brother, dude.
That was his brother, Rob Ford.
He actually died of a heart attack.
Oh, damn.
That's funny, though.
Yeah, his brother was a real degenerate.
I loved it.
Politics is so fucking ridiculous.
Oh, no. The only right if the politician you believe in is doing it.
What?
They're only right if the politician you believe in
is doing it.
Yeah, I know.
It's like...
It is. It's crazy.
It's crazy.
But anyway, go ahead.
What happened in Canada?
They reported that
Crown Royal, which I thought was...
Yeah, Crown Royal said they were moving...
Yeah, because they were bottling a bunch of stuff.
They still...
I think they still got a bottling plant in a couple of provinces,
but their main one is moving south of the border.
And so Doug Ford is pretty upset about it.
And he's like, no more Crown Royal
here. We're drinking
Canadian Club.
He's like, these robots
are good tax-paying robot
citizens that are bottling
the liquid today. They're probably like
20 employees in that
bottling facility.
It's all robots, you know.
Yeah, probably.
Hey, listen, bud.
I gotta go. Yeah, I probably should too.
I probably should too.
But, alright, wait.
I'm not leaving yet, but good talking
to you, man. Take it easy.
Likewise. Have a good night, everyone.
Love you.
Yeah.
I feel like, I imagine imagine animals got like one of those
he's definitely
got a sleep mask right
and maybe like maybe a little nightcap
he really did in that picture
that I shared look like Groucho Marx
I need to get
on him about that
he's going to stop looking like Groucho Marx I don't to get on him about that.
He's going to stop looking like Groucho Marx.
I don't know how he's going to do that, though.
Did you see that, Chief?
You know what I'm talking about?
Do you know who Groucho Marx is?
Are you being serious?
Let me look it up.
You know the famous... Every mask you've ever seen in your life,
like the big nose and the glasses
and the mustache and the furry eyebrows?
That's a Groucho Marx mask.
Groucho?
You've never heard the name before?
Nope.
Look up Chico and Harpo Marx, too.
I mean, I don't love Groucho marks.
You'll know this, Rand.
I started watching, or my wife would watch MASH with her mom.
Her mom was a person.
Oh, yeah.
He definitely does look like that.
100%.
Damn, that's basically him
bro well so anyway so uh and matt i'm from toledo ohio mash you know toledo mud hens uh jamie farr
famous toledo thing but they were what they've watched mash and probably they've already watched
through the series a couple times like i just kind of hang out i don't watch it i'll be on my
phone or i'll be working or something.
So it's like out of background noise. But Alan Alda in MASH,
you know, what the fuck's his name? Hawkeye.
Is Groucho
Marx. I don't know if you know what I'm talking about.
Do you know what I'm talking about at all?
Yeah. His whole
fucking shtick is like ripped
off. It is embodying Groucho Marx.
It's like, whatever, 30 years later,
he takes the guy's routine and just basically becomes the guy.
I'm like, it's,
it's the sarcasm that just puts it right there, right?
Well, no, but I'm saying he, he stole the guy's delivery.
He stole everything about, I'm not going to say stole it.
I'm sure, I mean, I'm sure he acknowledges his influence
and all that stuff.
But I mean, I love comedy.
And so like, and I like Alan Alda.
I'm not trying to shit on that guy.
I'm just saying, you know,
he was such an embodiment of a different character.
I don't know, like, I like MASH.
It is a little tired to me.
It's like, it is that same kind of shticky humor, but whatever.
You know what to say.
Good artists create great artists.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, you know, you get it.
Well, and I was talking earlier before anybody came on.
I was talking about this dude, Billy Strings.
I don't know if you guys listen to,
I don't know what music y'all listen to,
but he's a bluegrass guitarist,
but he's become really famous.
Like last, I don't know, maybe six months ago,
I was driving up through Detroit
and I saw he sold out like the...
Hang on one second.
okay so he had uh sold out like the biggest arena in detroit two nights in a row and i'm like dude
i've heard this guy's name but i didn't really know you know how he had gotten so popular he's
like a you know bluegrass guitarist nobody listens to bluegrass and so um
i don't know i'd heard of him but i didn't really think much about him i heard a couple songs i was
like that's cool and then recently i don't know i was sitting out by the fire caught a couple songs
and i watched this interview with him i was like dude this guy's like a a virtuoso right like you
don't get that often in your life to just be faced with
someone who can do something that no one else
can really do.
Oh, I just went on this rant. I'm sorry.
I got distracted
by something. Why was I talking about
Billy Strings? What were we just talking about?
Chief.
Animal looking like that,
dude. Oh, Groucho Marx.
Groucho Marx. No, soo Marx I appreciate when somebody can do something
creative
and comedy is
influence like this guy was saying
that Billy Strings
the reason I wanted that rant is he was saying
how he had been influenced
and he kind of pulls from all these
resources so anybody creative
I don't know if you call it steals
or is inspired by,
it's a gray area, right?
Like, you know,
meet with you, Chief, you know?
You inspire me
to make jokes about you.
I don't know.
Well, anyway. I guess. No, I'm just joking. I don't know. I guess.
No, I'm just joking.
Alright, so the Cowboys are going to win how many games this year?
Seven.
And the Giants are going to win five, you're saying?
That's what Vega says.
Oh, I thought you said it was eight.
No, no, I was wrong.
It's five and a half. Ooh, I like you said it was eight. No, no, I was wrong. It's five and a half.
Ooh, I like that, actually.
Because they had, look, they had...
It's a good sweat.
Well, they had kind of a trash team.
It's an 18-game season, right?
18-week, 17-week.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, man, that feels like it that feels good
why do you have to put put 10 bucks man you put 10 bucks in the powerball
are you saying with the vig it's like nine right that's easy money yeah i'm like
it's like march and i look at my phone. I get a notification.
You have $9.
You have $19 in your...
Add it to your account.
I don't have an account, man. I don't want to get into
that, man.
You kind of do because you made an account when we play poker.
Well, no. Poker's different
to me. No, no. But the
account that you have on BetOnline, remember?
Okay. Yeah, yeah. V, no, but the account that you have on BetOnline, remember? Okay. Yeah, yeah.
Vaguely, yeah.
When I was in college,
man, I loved playing three-team
parlays.
That was like the... I don't know why.
That's the most alluring number.
You're like $10
to win $60?
Correct.
It's like the easiest one to do. I can get three games. Three seems so
believable. Um, so I don't know. I had a friend of mine in high school and, uh, I started setting
this thing up, which I would recommend to do. This might be, if you have a bunch of friends
from high school, I started doing this after college was the day before thanksgiving i figured people were going to be in town right they might be visiting
parents or whatever and uh why not get together every year just a reason to get together with
old high school friends and stuff and so i started kind of arranged this whatever day before
thanksgiving bar crawl ish thing and so we were hanging out her and her brother and they're taking me out to
like places that look chief, you know me, I tell you, I,
I'm the whitest guy you're going to meet me. Like I just, I look white.
I carry myself as a white guy. And, uh,
I'm just like, I don't belong here, but you know,
a lot of one place called Migos.
Bro, I was literally the only white person in my entire place.
But anyway, she was telling me, she's like, oh man, this DraftKings or whatever it was.
She lost like eight grand.
I'm like, man, fuck.
It's just painful. I never never played big i would just play
ten dollar twenty dollar bets but now that's painful to me that's why i don't i just don't
want to do it i play i pray i play pretty pretty big but i don't think i've lost eight grand well
i think it's just been over the course of the season or whatever you know okay you know what's one way i try to i guess balance
it is if i bet big and i win big i spend the money right away okay because then because if not i'm
gonna just bet it again no you're definitely better off to get something real right out of it
yeah so it happens whenever we hear about chief when buying a camera or something it's because he
won a good bet correct a hundred percent okay you're correct uh especially during football
you know i can actually see i'll tell you this i can see a logic where that actually
is a better thing wait one of the things i do badly i buy cheap too often you know
it's like you have to learn that lesson the hard way 20 times before you're
like,
I'm not buying cheap shit anymore.
And maybe by,
by forcing yourself to buy really quality things,
you actually have saved yourself money in the longterm by not buying the cheap
shit and having to throw it away two years later or not getting what you want
out of it. Tools especially.
Do not
skimp on tools or pants.
But don't skimp on them.
It ain't worth it.
No, you're right. Pants.
Pants is the other one.
And shoes.
The reason I have my projector, bro, is because of the Super Bowl from last year.
The reason I have one of my computers is because I hit an over-under.
Oh, that's funny.
Have you ever done one of those bets?
I only know of it because Artie Lang from Howard Stern used to talk about him.
They were called, they were like basically, let's say you bet the over-under. I only know of it because Artie Lang from Howard Stern used to talk about him.
They were called, they were like, basically, let's say you bet the over under,
and you bet $10 or something, and the over's $100, and you bet the over.
For every one that goes over, you win $10.
So if it's $101, you win $10.
If it's $110, you win $100.
But for every dollar it's under, if you lose, it's 101 you win 10 bucks if it's 110 you win 100 bucks but for every dollar it's under if you lose you it's the same thing you got to pay out a multiple of the bet do you know i'm talking about
have you heard of this bet that'd be say it again it's okay so let's say the over under on a football
game is 60 and you bet 10 on this i want to say it was called like a hurricane bet or something like that.
Oh, I see.
And if it goes over.
So if it's 66 and you bet $10 on the over, you get a hundred bucks.
You're getting a $10 for every point.
But if you lose, if it goes in the negative, you lose every.
And I'm sure the over has a limit.
It'd have to have a limit, of course.
I heard when they bet per run on baseball.
So $5 is a run.
So if the game's 9-5, you win 45.
Mine is the other 5-0.
So it's only whatever it is or whatever.
I heard that.
But that can get – in baseball, that can get real bad real quick. Yeah, I don't know.
I would have to
I just know he was talking about it and he had some
some bet
that he lost so badly.
Although, you know, I say that
no one would bet the under. Why would you bet the under?
I mean, if it's
a snow game, you should bet the under. Yeah, that's
true. That's true.
Yeah, I kind of would. It would be fun to have time to do that.
I think if I were retired, I would love to really get into a league,
whatever it is, baseball, basketball, NBA, football, or go,
and really go, okay, I'm going to do my freaking research
and based on the weather conditions
and whatever, the different players playing in the humidity
or the heat or the quarterback, right,
got a sore arm or whatever the fuck,
I'm going to make bets and be more than whatever,
60% successful.
Do you think that's possible?
No. You really don't think so?
60% is a lot. Well, but I'm saying like there are odds
makers that have their number
they're arriving at is
ultimately, no, but it's ultimately, they want to balance the
bets more than they want to predict the score.
You know what I'm saying?
No, you're right.
So they don't really, I mean, they're, they're, they're guessing at it because you'll see
some games will start out minus four and a half.
By game time, they're minus eight.
Right?
Like, the odds makers actually got that wrong.
Meaning they didn't get real close right out of the gate.
Right?
So, you as a savvy bettor, can you identify bad lines early?
Can you outsmart the odds makers, essentially, or outsmart the public?
Because how many times do you see a game that goes like...
Hold on.
Let's say you've got someone like Dallas, a big profile team.
They've won three games in a row.
The quarterback's been throwing 400 yards a game.
Everybody's like, oh, Dallas is on a roll.
They're 7-2.
No one remembers that they've been playing chumps for the last three weeks.
So they're on TV.
They got a good-looking quarterback, whatever.
And they're going to go play Jacksonville.
And nobody fucking knows Jacksonville. Nobody cares about Jacksonville. Oh, Jacksonville, whatever. And they're going to go play Jacksonville. And nobody fucking knows Jacksonville,
but cares about Jacksonville.
Oh, Jacksonville, yeah, they're
five and four, but no one
you know, but they lost their games on some
bullshit fumble, whatever, right?
So they're actually like, they are
the better team, but
the public is all
whipped up in this Dallas Cowboys frenzy.
They go ham on Dallas betting.
Right?
And you as a savvy bettor should go, okay, the public's always freaking wrong.
They're being manipulated.
I'm betting on the underdog here.
And I'm going heavy.
So if you're a good bettor, you probably have bets you make.
But then you have some that are like your whales.
You're like,
okay,
everything is stacked in this direction on this one.
And I'm over betting on games that I feel really,
really confident in.
So I do think people are out there who can make a living sports gambling.
I do too.
You just have to be, you just have to have the role for it.
Well, yeah.
You know what you were saying? That you're trying to bet against the...
It's like you're betting against the house early or you're betting against the public.
I think those are the two options.
The Seahawks game versus Denver, that was one of my first big bets.
And it was an easy bet, in my opinion. I knew that the Seahawks were going
to destroy Denver in the Super Bowl. And I put
$2,500. At the time, it was a really big chunk of my
money. And people were calling me dumb and stupid. And by the
first quarter, I knew I was going to win.
Yeah, because they saved you in the first play, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, I knew I was going to win.
And then everybody was just looking at me.
And then I was like – a lot of people were like, especially women,
like, how did you know?
How did you know?
I was like, I didn't know.
But, you know, it was the number one defense.
The lead to the boom was there.
Like, nobody was going to stop them.
You know, it was their time.
That's what I felt.
Defense wins championships.
They were so good
that year.
Hold on a second.
I think it was 50-8
if I remember was that final score.
They stomped them.
You didn't bet the money line.
You bet the spread. The points the spread yeah and and who's the favorite
again it was um
denver denver was the favorite correct so you had to feel really good
definitely let's find out watch it's 2017 2016 right
no no that was longer that That was like 2013, wasn't it?
Bro, I'm getting all confused.
I was talking to somebody.
Who the hell was I talking to?
Oh, because I was talking about that Seahawks play.
And this lady was, remember earlier when I was talking about mentioning the Seahawks play and that lady went on this rant
and she talked about it and she was like oh the
2013 season and I was like Marshawn
Lynch was 2013 I was thinking
yes 2014 you're right
I was thinking because I was sitting there going
wasn't Marshawn Lynch like
2003 like I was
a decade off on the Seahawks
like I was thinking
Russell Wilson was like 45 years old
i'm like is how is i was in there going how is russell wilson still playing and it's like he's
only 33 years old i was and then also the old panthers i bet i bet a big chunk of money on the
eagles and chiefs the first Super Bowl.
And there was like an even money line or even spread.
And I put another, I think it was like $1,800.
What was the first one?
Who won?
I forget.
The Chiefs.
Did they? Yeah.
The second one they lost.
I put $500 last year on the Chiefs and they fucking won.
Do you think they're over?
Do you think the Chiefs are over?
They got pretty embarrassed last year.
I think
their offense might struggle,
but with Mahomes,
you probably could still get to the AFC Championship.
Yeah, he... He's the next
it. He's the...
He has the it factor.
He reminds me a lot of Aaron
Rodgers.
Just with more championships?
Yeah.
Well, just his style of play.
And I do think that they had one Super Bowl.
I'm not remembering which one where I felt like they got away with one.
They shouldn't have won.
And, yeah, I just feel like he's had a very good team around him.
Kelsey's pretty...
He's tough to defend.
The one that
they beat the Niners, I think it was two years ago,
that's the one that shouldn't have won.
Yeah, yeah, right.
But the stupid-ass Niners
chose
to keep the ball in overtime.
And overtime in the Super Bowl, you want to receive the ball second, not first.
Right, to give yourself the option.
Yeah, to give yourself the option of going for it on fourth down or not.
Yeah, like knowing what you're up against, yeah.
Correct, yeah.
And they're stupid.
I wasn't shocked when I saw that.
Well, you know, sometimes these
coaches, they get like,
they're like, if we go in and score first,
pressure's on, they're gonna
fuck up. No, bro, they didn't
even talk about it.
I know, but maybe that was...
There's a documentary about it.
The coaches and the team didn't talk about it.
They hadn't pre-planned this scenario?
Correct.
No pre-planned.
Nothing.
Oh, no, no.
You're kidding.
I didn't know that.
Not kidding, bro.
Nothing.
So it was like a coach that was old school and went like old overtime rules, like pre-whatever, 2008.
Correct.
No, yeah.
And then if you see the videos you can hear them talking
that they don't know what to do oh my you're kidding me i'm not bro in 2023 that's like a
decade after everything changed right yeah can you imagine that actually shocks me
you own a business you have a business a football team worth billions of fucking dollars and there's not like some sort of
you haven't hired a military guy to like
play out all the scenarios
that's a fireball offense in my opinion
but hey they still coaching
the coach is still the coach
dude you're 100% right
that's a huge oversight
that's like you run a
that's like you run a city.
Let's call that city, quote-unquote, Flint, Michigan.
And you turn the water back on to go through old lead and pipes to poison your sins.
That's the same thing.
You could not have done it worse.
Yeah, it was better if you... Yeah, you couldn't have done it worse. Yeah, it was better if you...
Yeah, you couldn't have done it worse.
Luck didn't play with you, and you're just dumb at that point.
Yeah, that's surprising.
Shocking.
Well, you know.
Anyway, I actually got to go too, bro.
Yeah, sounds good.
I'm glad you guys come in every week.
We'll keep doing this. I'm telling you, you know, we'll good. I'm glad you guys come in every week. We'll keep doing this.
I'm telling you, you know, we'll see what happens.
We'll get people in here again.
I'm not worried about it.
That's fine.
I'm actually cool with it too.
Yeah, it's fun.
Just call, hang out, whatever.
All right, Jose and Chefe.
All right then, brother.
Peace.
Have a good night.
Take it easy guys
