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🎙️WEB3 | +C.O.C ft Pawpular 🐾
Recorded: July 26, 2025 Duration: 1:33:49Space Recording
Short Summary
The Community of Communities is set to launch a revolutionary Web3 platform focused on pet care, integrating a token launch that rewards users for walking their pets. With plans for partnerships, fundraising through subscriptions, and a commitment to animal welfare, the project aims to create a thriving ecosystem that supports both pets and their owners.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Revolution Founder
Pape the way, lead the martyr Miss Evie
Spaces, mental health like clean water Tuesdays, roll round minds
Get soothed and caught on A sanctuary found in digital armor
Community of communities, we rise X spaces buzzer, truth ain't disguised
Friday, Saturday Saturday's voices amplify
Together we're strong, unity's our pride
Thy revolution, words like heavy artillery
Bacon sandwich co-hosts feed mental artillery
Late in the week, X marks our territory
Stories unfold, shaping our narrative, no allegory
Community of communities, we rise
X spaces buzzin' truth ain't disguised.
Friday, Saturday, these voices amplified.
Together we're strong, unity's our guy.
Thy revolution, words like heavy artillery.
Bacon sandwich, co-hosts feeding mental artillery.
Late in the week, X-Mars our territory.
Stories unfold, shape in our narrative, no allegory.
Community of communities, we rise.
Big spaces buzzing, truth ain't the skies.
Friday, Saturdays, voices amplify.
Together we're strong, unity's our guy.
Fridays live with discussion, minds intertwine.
Saturdays replay, thoughts age like fine wine.
From dark to dawn, follow the growth line
In these spaces, innovation's the shrine
Mental health and spotlight, no need for stage fright
Communities, torchbearers, keeping it bright
Miss Evie, soothing tones, healing and nightlight
With our collective strength, the future's ignite.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Community of Communities, a groundbreaking Web3 movement that celebrates the diverse
tapestry of human creativity, innovation, and collaboration.
In a world characterized by unprecedented connectivity and decentralization, the Community
of Communities stands as a testament to the power of collective ingenuity.
Together, we'll discover the limitless possibilities of the Web3 movement and the
remarkable individuals and communities who are shaping the future. Stay tuned for a showcase
of inspiration, collaboration and boundless creativity as we dive deep into the heart
of the community of communities. Welcome aboard. I now bring you our host, Thy Revolution.
I now bring you our host, Thy Revolution.
Good afternoon. Happy Friday. Saturday, sorry.
Welcome to the community of communities web-free space.
Hope everybody's good.
Thank you everyone that is in the space already.
We appreciate you, Legends.
As always, it takes about five minutes for everyone to join,
but in the meantime, we can get everyone on stage that needs to be there.
We can run through the co-hosts, the co-team,
and then our amazing guests for this evening. So that being as always i'll just give a quick brief breakdown as to how we conduct
these spaces and we'll dive right in so usually we feature one to two guests giving each guest 60
minutes each to break down their ecosystem we do this in a conversational type style so that it's
a nice relaxed environment so that there's just good vibes we can talk learn showcase and help
people who are listening learn more and help people who are listening learn
more and help those that are building showcase the things that they're building so that being
said we thank you everyone that's jumped in for sharing out the space for sharing out the space
before the space even started as well you guys are awesome so we will go around the room now
get a quick hello from everybody and then we will introduce our guest for tonight so first and
foremost we have crypto tour in the building happy saturday
tony how we doing brother happy saturday rev i am doing fine looking forward to this space
welcoming everybody welcoming popular let's go let's go nice one tony appreciate you brother
glad you are having a good saturday so far we have Z3 in the building as well. How are we doing Z? Happy Saturday sir.
Happy Saturday everyone. Sorry about my cough there. It was a great space last night, I'm looking forward to this one. I know Paw Patrol's been around.
Paw Patrol, sorry, Popular has been around for ages. Sorry guys.
sorry guys let's go nice ones yeah no you you weren't wrong poor patrol have definitely been
around for a minute hopefully popular will be able to compete one day in the future that'd be
awesome but uh yeah nice ones they uh definitely had to uh shine a light on that because if it was
the other way around you'd do the same legend we also have the bacon sandwich in the building
happy saturday bacon how we doing bro poor patrol poor patrol z is in trouble
hello boys and girls um yeah we had really good fun last night uh hanging out with star dogs um
and i've been looking forward to popular um we've known popular for ages um we've known them since
they were a concept and an idea and we've kind of watched them grow over the years um also
participants in our collaboration book
project so i'm hoping we'll get an opportunity to speak about later on today what's up boys and
girls let's go on nice one bacon very well done there as well sir beautiful singing appreciate
you bro what a legend but uh yeah definitely super excited about that so uh look forward
to that as well so that being said further ado, we will introduce our guests for this evening.
We have Popular in the Building.
Happy Saturday, guys.
How are we?
Thank you for joining us.
Happy Saturday.
Thanks for having us.
Good to be here.
Has been a minute.
How's everyone doing?
Yeah, man.
Where you been?
I'm here you know yeah i i mean i've been around i've non-stop non-stop work it's been um building for so many years to be honest so it hasn't stopped
this web3 space is a bit hectic but um you know we're we keep pushing i hope everyone is doing well so what's interesting
about popular is um obviously i operate somewhat in web3 and rarely i'll come across people in the
real world that have exposure to to this web3 thing that i'm involved in um and popular was
one of the projects that um was a mutual interest between myself and someone else that I'd met recently.
I don't remember the guy's name. I just met him at the pub. We were just talking about crypto markets.
We kind of touched on NFTs and he said, oh, you know, are there any NFT projects that you like?
And I'm like, yeah, you know, I kind of interview a lot of them. So I'm kind of a fan of a whole bunch of them.
And then he started lifting off the NFfts and popular was one of those so it was quite nice to go yeah you know these guys
these these guys have um have been around for a bit and you know i've got a good understanding of
what you guys do and how you operate and um you guys just you know you keep on pushing big big
respect for you guys yeah thanks so much it hasn't been easy in Web3, but like I always say, we do this for the animals.
So it's important for us to keep going and to keep pushing.
So it's just, it's a mission, you know, to make a change, hopefully one day to make a bigger change.
We do make a change at the moment, but hopefully one day to make a bigger change.
So we have to keep going.
Like if it's Web3 alone, I'm not sure if we still be here in a way
just because it's a very tough space to be in.
Web2 is a lot easier for us to be in,
just to be honest.
But our tech already is in Web3,
but front end is good for Web2 and Web3.
So that's what keeps us going.
And then we have a product rolling out shortly
that would be mainly in Web2
and that would keep our platform growing
and bringing in more funds to
the platform so that's where we are today did you want me to speak a bit about what we do and go from
there you guys tell me what would you like me to do so there may be some people in the room um that
don't know who you are and what you do um so yeah if you could start by just giving us a quick insight of who you are, what you do, yeah, and we'll go from there.
Okay, awesome, awesome.
Well, my name is Pele. I am the founder of Popular. I've been with Popular since day one. I founded the company in 2013.
It was founded a little bit before that, but I was registered in 2013 as a Web2 platform myself, and I've been in the tech space for 20 over 20 years
I've been in crypto since 2011
Investing learning and all that stuff, you know, and yeah, so we started popular back in 2013
It was mainly a platform for on web to share information between pet parents including adoption lost pets and whatnot
We're based in
toronto canada uh we did have a huge uh not huge like a decent uh user based on web 2 close to 100
000 we did our first app was released in 2014 that was just all uh app the app was mainly to
share information meaning you know between pet parents let's say you use the service in your area
and uh you know i would like to use the same service for my pet.
I can ask you questions regarding that particular service so that that way I'll know more how was, for example, how was that groomer, how was a veterinarian.
And with that, I'll be more trusting because, you know, how most of our pets don't speak.
Sometimes you take your pet to a vet or you take your pet to a groomer and they mistreat your pet.
So with that, our platform was mainly to ask questions between pet pairs and all that stuff.
And as well, if you lose a pet, there's a notification that goes out in the app.
Just, you know, I'll send a picture.
I'll send all information about your pet.
Anyone in your area that has a popular app they will get the notification and then that
way maybe they can help you locate your pet and same with adoption as well so that's how we started
uh we did like i said we did have a great a decent uh web 2 base and we transitioned to this space
uh over five years now and we've been building it hasn't been easy with uh you know building
communities especially in the web 3 space uh most, especially in the Web3 space.
Mostly everyone in the Web3 space or NFT space is looking for a quick flip or casino money.
So it was hard to always build a community that supports you for a long time.
Like maybe a short period that would work, but for a longer time, it was just a bit hard.
But we're still pushing, we're still working working but we feel like we're more suited at
the moment and web 2 or maybe in the middle web 2.5 but our tech is always
gonna be web 3 blockchain and whatnot ready but if you're a web 2 person you
can use a platform and instead of cashing out your tokens that you earn
while you're walking and whatnot you can use them as point system to book a service to buy a product that way you don't need to know much
about nfts or web3 so that's where we're at today so i did i'm eating my dinner with you guys no
That was good, that was good.
Yeah, dude, you're so right.
You know, it's hard when the industry is about financial industry.
People are looking to, you know, buy something that's a benefit to make a profit.
I do think that there are a lot of hard-ended people that just want to invest in good people and good projects um i would say
maybe someone like graham rider for example yeah he's not about extracting value he's about
creating value and helping to you know share value ecosystems rather than you know trying to extract value directly.
Before we came to the chat here, we were talking
about Nike
and obviously their foray in Square 3
kind of
a bit shambles because they
launched into their market.
They're looking for value extraction which they
didn't achieve. Or maybe they did
achieve but they didn't quite
look.
And now the conditions have changed changed there's now gumblings that Nike might be making a bit of comeback but you know the only reason they're looking at making a comeback is because they see an
opportunity to extract value and we're about value creation and value sharing rather than
value extraction that makes sense.
Yeah, you're right.
Graham is like one of the few out there.
He's very supportive with us as well,
and he's one of the few that looks at the future.
A lot of people sometimes they don't look at that.
They just look, for example, what's going on?
How much am I going to make today or whatever?
I want to flip something and do all that stuff. That's basically it.
Hype is important.
We don't try to hype too much just because everything we do is organic
and we want to build the project for a long term.
We want to stay here for a very long period.
A lot of projects that do well
sometimes in minting, we started minting a couple
weeks ago and it's been a slow mint, slow process
just because it's mainly organic.
We've seen other projects that come in and mint quickly.
It could be like whatever the case is.
It could be like them buying it, washing, whatever it is.
But at the end of the day, it seems the liquidity is not there as much as where it was a couple of years back.
We're hoping one day it'll come back.
But like I said, we're not depending mainly on that.
We just want to do well in Web 2 and Web 3.
But mainly, we feel like Web 2 would always bring in funds, even in a bear market.
So it keeps us going and growing as a platform.
That way, we don't have to depend only on crypto being like, okay, we'll market, bear market, whatever.
We've got this market into it. He's got this market influence.
I'm good friends with him.
He's a big comedy band.
And basically he's an old school producer.
He's got all the big names, big boy bands,
girl bands, little clubs, little clubs,
little clubs, dance, many pop stuff.
He's very much a poppy guy.
But he's got a fantastic discography.
And he hates the fact that this industry has this kind of hype cycle, bear cycle,
because it's hard to have a sustainable model for these artists to utilise
lines if the goal posts are always moving um and it kind of breaks his heart that we we're kind of
if the goalposts are always moving.
just a passenger to to this to this this kind of four-year flow um where you know in a bear market
it's impossible to push out your products it's impossible to mint out but it's hard to mint out
teas and things like this but then in a bear market everyone's chewing off your your arm to to get
the next you know pfp call nft you know whatever it might be so i think those those those hype
times will come back i think we're kind of at the on the bottom of the curve right now and it's now
just starting to point up and i mean z z is much closer to the nft marketplaces than i am um you
know i i can say with things the little things
i have seen is that you know there are some big brands doing big things like pudgy penguins was
on pudgy penguins they're taking over they are everywhere and you know the the the price of
those nfts continues to increase um over time so i i do feel like the the hype will come back but then you know
it has it's a bit of a double-edged sword because yes okay yeah you might have the hype now but that
might not be here next month um and it's difficult to create sustainable business models particular
revenue models um from a market that has a four-year cycle you're kind of a passenger to. Do you know what I mean?
Yes, very,
very true. We've been here almost two cycles now and I've been
myself in so many different cycles
without popular but
as a business,
to sustain a business in Web3,
it's just very difficult, like you said.
The funding
sometimes is there, sometimes funding is not
there. I think we're probably at at least five years from today
where it would probably get better, maybe a little bit more than that.
I'm not sure.
But at the moment, we do so much, we try so much,
and it's hard to get traction.
Marketing is not there as well.
So, yeah, I mean, I'm sure most of you guys know,
but it's a bit frustrating just because we love the space.
But we want to onboard a lot of pet parents to this space as well.
But we feel like it's not ready.
It needs time.
But, hey, you know, we're early and we're hoping to be here when everything, you know, gets going eventually.
Well, we'll be here anyways, but we're hoping a lot of the projects that we love and we care about stay as well.
You know, we've lost a lot of people along the way.
And, you know, we're still here.
We're still pushing.
Glad you guys are still around as well, too.
Yeah, thank you.
I appreciate that.
And it is awesome that you guys are still building and pushing.
And it's amazing that you built something that supports animals um you know it's really important that we that we we do these things and we take care of animals um
and of course each other but i think it's it's awesome how you've constructed this application
that helps support that i was hoping if you wouldn't mind um kind of
giving a bit of a breakdown of your app and how it works and how people can utilize it and where
people can find it um that would be awesome if that is okay definitely of course of course thank
you awesome thank you all right uh so yeah what we do is we are a walk to earn platform at the
moment where uh you can walk and earn with or without your pets.
You earn more while you walk with your pets. It's a free app, so anyone can download it on Android and iOS.
We do have over 30,000 downloads so far, and we're pushing.
The way the app works is you do not need an NFT, so anyone can download it and use it without an NFT.
You download the app, you sign up, you add your pets, you walk during the day by yourself,
you can earn half of the rewards and whenever you're ready to go for a walk,
there's two walks that you've got to start daily.
You get notifications from the app as well, letting you know that you should go for a walk.
So there's two walks that you've got to start manually.
So you turn on the walk, it's 30 minutes minimum and a thousand steps away from your where you live so
you when you complete that you earn a certain amount of tokens you gotta wait two hours in
between and then you gotta start your next walk so there's two walks that you can start daily
two hour two hour wait in between and you complete your particular day if you if you reach 10 000
steps and you complete these two walks so whatever you whatever you want whatever steps earned in
these particular walks gets counted towards your end of day so that's how it works at the moment
in our next phase of the app that's coming up shortly that's where we have this new nft which
is called pop pop pets go which is ppg you'll be able to acquire these nfts
stake them to additional pets and when you go for a walk let's say myself i have four pets
i would actually be able to acquire let's say three nfts take them to my pets when i go for a walk
i can choose all four when i choose all four and when i complete these walks i earn
four times what i would earn without these nfts so that's how it would work and
then so on and so forth first walk second walk and then you go from there so that's uh with the power
of that nft that's coming up well we have it released but uh you know if you the app is not
ready yet we're just waiting on app approvals and they're all there'll be second phase of the app
where there's a lot more features that we built in that, you know, maybe I can speak about in a bit.
But yeah, so that's how the app works at the moment.
No need for NFT.
Anyone can download it.
If you don't have the app, you can download it from Android and iOS.
If you want a code, you can use code popular to earn some tokens while signing up.
If you don't have a code, you can still download the app and use it.
So are these tokens tradable?. So are these tokens tradable?
Sorry?
Are these tokens tradable?
Do they have like a monetary value?
Or are they used for exchange for things like discounts and things like this?
So at the moment, the token is not live yet.
We're waiting on a bit of regulations in Canada.
It's a bit tough.
So we're waiting on the U.S. regulations, which was supposed to be done by now,
but it hasn't.
With that, we release the token.
The token will have a value for sure,
like monetary value.
But at the same time,
if you download the app
and then you're a Web2 person
and you want to walk,
but you don't care for tokens
or you don't care to connect the wallet,
you'll be able to use these tokens
towards a service
because we have a service section
that's coming up where we onboard service providers to offer their services.
So anything you own on a platform, you can put that towards a product or whatever service
there is instead of cashing it out.
But if you're a Web3 person, you want to cash it out.
You can stack them right now.
now and then whenever the token is ready you can cash out on the decks and then go from there
And then whenever the token is ready, you can cash out on a DEX and then go from there.
so in regards to um inflationary tokens so like rewards tokens like this um have you put anything
in place to try and stop people from just just just tanking the chart and kind of extracting
the value from the token so you know at the moment, we have our tokenomics ready and everything,
but we haven't even thought about doing all that.
So we want to, like, we don't have, we don't, we know,
we know a lot about tokens and whatnot,
but we didn't have that much experience of how to do things.
But along the way, we have, you know,
we got some people on board that know a lot about that stuff.
So I think when the token is getting ready to be released, we'll probably put more things in place where, you know we got some people on board that know a lot about that stuff so i think when the token's getting ready to be released we'll probably put more things in place where you know uh people
can't you know sell whatever amount is or can't do this can't do that so yeah when we get to it
we'll probably that for sure we'll have something uh something definitely to uh to limit people from
just like what you said yes i mean there's a couple of tools you can use. One of them is incentivizing holding.
So things like staking for more tokens,
can you see that IP itself.
There's other ways like buy and burns can be quite useful.
So let's say if there's an exchange of tokens
for a service or product or discount code
or something like this,
then taking a portion of those to basically burn those tokens,
that can create a small positive influence on the price chart
by removing those tokens from circulation,
creating more scarcity within the model.
But there are a few tools available to you to try
and kind of balance the sell point, basically.
Yes, we're going to have staking in place as well
where you can stake your tokens.
Because we do have two tokens around popular.
One is a walk to earn,
where you will only earn that by walking.
You can't earn it any other way.
And there's another one, which is governor's token.
That's for the platform for, you know, for the business itself.
So the way the staking works is you would, whatever you would earn in walk to earn,
or you would take that and you stake it with that staking, you earn governor's token.
So we have that in place.
Plus other things, like you said, we were thinking already about, you know, when when people uh buy for example if you want to buy a service on popular let's say you
want to book a visit or whatever the case is we support other block we support like solana and
polygon but if you want to use popular's token they'll be cheaper for you to use popular's token
and then a fee that goes out of there uh would be burned eventually so we thought about all these
things but i think uh yeah we'll probably have to look into it a little bit more just to add more things just to make this
going but the platform is built in a way where there's a lot of ways for us to generate funds
to keep the platform going from ads from giveaways and whatnot we do we in in web 2 when we started
we did have what we used to do is like a company used to give us products to give away and we charge the company so we can generate some funds for the platform.
And then we give away things to our community.
It could be a physical product and whatnot.
But yeah, so there's money coming in from that.
There'll be money coming in from service providers signing up on the platform payment system.
There'll be eventually ads too.
And so many other features just to keep putting money on the
platform keep it going there's an opportunity there to use things like ad revenue to take a
percentage of that to buy up that rewards or or you know yes to buy up the reward token or the
token that has value um to and then to then destroy that um so there's almost like a like a taxation uh with the
revenue generation that that could be a good way to introduce a burn metric um into the ecosystem
by uh kind of having the burn um when there is an exchange of value is basically how how that would
work so whether that be advertising or other revenue generations having a percentage that
goes to buy the token and burn it could be um quite a useful a useful metric to try and um stabilize a chart yeah definitely definitely there's a lot we can
think about you know and our platform as well like i said there's a lot of ways that we bring in funds
to it from the from the physical product as well so i'll go through them in a bit but yeah there's
a lot of ways we because we looked at other uh a lot of walk-to-end platforms that did not last long so we want it to be a different
where you know we walk and earn we incentivize incentivize people with tokens but eventually
you get they get incentivized with nfts and these nfts are coupon based nfts from businesses
so with that we don't have to give as much tokens but the businesses benefit by advertising on a platform by providing a service and providing whatever you know coupon based
entities to our community it benefits them as a business where it brings people in the door and
it benefits our community by giving them something back and that way the tokens we won't have to give
as much token as we do now and so on and so forth. So a lot for us, a lot of work for us still coming,
but we're building and we keep building.
And our next milestone is to roll out our physical product.
That's the most important thing for us.
And we'll go from there.
So, I mean, I've seen other pay to move,
pay to walk, those kind of reward-based systems
just kind of collapse because the chart just
gets dumped to zero and any allocation of coins that was going to be used towards things
like marketing and other sort of drives, the monetary value isn't there for the project
to be able to then realise the roadmap essentially when the token is used in in that fashion and
to kind of sustain the ecosystem and I've seen if you know like you say this
there's been a few of them that have come and gone and I think it's because
there it's yeah there's not an incentive but there's um a lack of incentive not to sell the token so i i think
creating some good desire to hold on to that token things like buying burns could be very very helpful
because i want your project to succeed i don't want your project to to have a chart like these others
um where it just looks like absolute wreckage um so yeah there are ways there are ways that you can try and uh try and assist
with uh with that um so what's what's next for popular what's um what's kind of the next step
for you guys so our next big thing is we have a nft at the moment um a main thing uh it's a bit slow
like i said but we're still working but our main target is to
release our tracker because the way our tracker works is it's a subscription-based tracker meaning
is it's a satellite-based GPS tracker so where you can track your pets and that subscription
goes through us so when you receive the tracker it has a built-in
e-sim and whatnot everything is ready for you to go and when you activate it you don't need to
for example put a sim card or anything in it everything is done it goes through us and
the the subscription goes to us so whatever you pay let's say a hundred dollars a year for a
satellite-based subscription it goes to us we take a cut out of that to keep the platform going we're probably we're not going to make any money off
selling trackers because our pricing is low and uh you know by the time you get the tracker you
pay for marketing you pay for shipping there's no money there for us as a business to to to benefit
from actually selling trackers the money is money the money is only from the subscription it's fine
to do stuff like that um you know many of the biggest companies money the money is only from the subscription it's fine to do stuff like that
um you know many of the biggest companies in the world have operated from the fashion
um companies like amazon and you know and others um so you're definitely right to to take that
that approach to it for sure yes so yeah so that's that's how we're basing it on and we can
there's over a billion pet bears in the world, as it is right now.
U.S., Canada, we have over 80 million pet bears.
Out of $250 billion spent a year on pets, about 100, I believe about 150 comes from the U.S. and Canada.
So more than half is just here in North America.
And then there's a lot of money spent.
And then I have pets.
I don't care how much money I spend on them because I love them. So it's different times now where people spend a lot of money spent and then i have pets i don't care how much money i spend on
them because i love them so it's different times now where people spend a lot of money on their
pets and there's there's like i i spend on food alone about four thousand dollars a year on my
pets right and then i have cats mainly so so i don't care and and we do spend money so there's
a lot of money to be made there plus our platform is built not just for us to make money if if if if was only
a business for us uh we could be doing a lot better now because we did we get approached by
bc money all the time but but their mission is not our mission our mission is to make a change and
and and help as many pet parents and help as many pets as possible that's what we want to do so it's
not just about making money and exiting that's what every bc wants money how much you're making for us when you're going to exit we're not looking for
that right and that's why we're still pushing mainly organically ourselves it could be a good
thing it'd be a bad thing but that's what we want we don't want that we don't want this platform to
just be a business platform whatever we make uh yearly most of it will go towards donation
non-profits eventually a popular
sanctuary and whatnot so so that's what we're building the best way to do this
is through the subscription because it's necessary like I said there's so many
80 million pet parents here in North America alone US and Canada if we can
onboard 10 million pet parents in the next five years which is very doable it
could be more than that and then that would these pet parents in the next five years, which is very doable. It could be more than that.
And then with these pet parents, most of them can be onboarded to Web3. And then our platform
will grow. And there's a lot of funding coming into our platform. It could be through marketing.
It could be through ads, anything. We can create. We have so many ways to actually generate funds
to keep this platform going and not just keep it going, to
grow it and then give back to our community, mainly nonprofits, mainly pet parents and
whatnot. So yeah, there's a lot we can do. There's a lot we're building. And the best
approach at the moment is the tracker approach because the subscription and with SaaS as
well, there's a lot of funding too. So for us, it's like to launch our tracker to get
the first, let's say, thousand pet parents parents on board there'll be a lot of money coming in
after that and then and then we we can strategize it where the money that comes
in would be paid back in a certain way that way we're not like that we're not
we're not stuck with a VC that wants to sell the company and do this and do that
so there's a lot of ways that we're working on and we're working on funding as well from web 2 outside bc you know maybe banking and whatnot so we're
doing that as well just to roll out our trackers so with this current mint um what's the what's
the deal with the current entities it's been slow we started It's been slow. We started. It's been slow. Like I said,
we did so much work, to be honest.
We have big following. We have a lot
of communities around, but it seems like
a lot of projects that are doing well
just mainly
from other projects.
So for us, we're looking more
of to
onboard more people.
It seems like the money that goes around,
it's always the same money.
So we're looking for a different type of money.
Maybe it's a different strategy.
Maybe it doesn't work.
I'm not sure.
But we're not just depending on the Mint money.
We're going to roll it out.
I think we're going to keep the Mint going.
And if we end up rolling out the trackers,
we might stop the Mint, burn the rest.
And whoever has whoever
you know has if we sell 500 000 nfts whatever number is these number these nfts would be worth
a lot more eventually but at the moment is you know we're not depending mainly on the nfts it'll
be good to do it but if it's not happening we're still pushing on the web2 side because
we feel like it's a bit easier you know minting nft sometimes just a bit uh
hassling it's a i feel like it's a hassle for me just seems like we're gonna go after people get a
kiss anyway like i i hate to swear on space but kiss ass you know to like have people
mint do this do that so it's it's a tough space just being honest you know so uh for us i i feel like what to is the best way to for funding
i think it's the best way for onboarding as well um yeah because you know most most people aren't
here yet um so you know being where they at is really really useful uh you know be be where they
are so that you can grow the circle of influence, essentially.
Web 3 is final. There's only a certain amount of growth here because there's only a certain
amount of people. With Web 2, it's limitless.
Yeah, you're right. Web 2 is limitless. Most of us are on Web 2, anyways, especially the
space we're in with pets. We find mostly everyone is on Web 2., you know, especially where the space we're in with pets, you know, most of we find mostly everyone is in Web 2.
And our tech will always be Web 3.
And eventually in the future, like I said, five years down the road, we can only depend on Web 3.
That'll be great.
If not, then we still will be still be dapping in Web 2 and Web 3 at the same time.
And we feel like that's our best option at the moment for our type of business and we'll see
how things go what's uh what's the functionality behind some of these entities sorry what's some
of the utilities behind the nfc okay yeah so so the the nfc that's uh we rolled out in the moment that has a lot of great
utilities so the way nfc works like i said uh you can get the nfc a stake and walk extra pets and
let's say if you can't walk you cannot still stick the nfc on our platform you always earn a little
bit more by a walk and earn but if you can't walk you can still stake and earn plus um you uh let's say you have a pet
and you uh get a tracker the nft gets you a free subscription so you pick up a tracker
you pay for a year subscription this uh this nft gives you a free year subscription on top of it
that can be worth around a hundred dollars when that uh depends where you are in the world
plus what we're going to be doing too as well
is when we roll out our trackers
and we get to 10,000 trackers sold,
we're going to pay back whatever people,
so whatever you paid for that particular NFT,
we'll drop that money back for you.
That way the NFT will be free for you as a token,
you know, as a thank you for supporting us along the way.
So you'll get your funds back so
so yeah so you get a free subscription you get another nft with that as well which is a crying
elephant just by minting that ppg uh the crying elephant's already on polygon this is the second
phase on solana on polygon it just has probably around 15 value so so mostly your nfp would be
free just by by by getting that crying elephant, because
the price of the NFTs, I think is 0.12 Solana, which is around maybe $22 today, whatever
the number is, but it was around 20 when it's priced out.
So yeah, so, so you get, you get a free year subscription, you get another NFT, you can
stake and earn by walking, or if you don't want to walk, you can still stake and earn
without walking and
you got your money back so these are utilities around that particular nfc
thank you for that breakdown and explaining that um i was uh just thinking about asking earlier
about um so the token that's currently linked to the platform at the moment.
Is there any utility around that at the moment?
Or is that going to be attached to the official token when it's launched?
So the token at the moment is, you know, you just walk and earn.
There's no utilities to it.
But when it's live, with that token you can use to book
a service if you don't want to like say cash it out in the decks or whatnot uh we'll have
service providers on the platform you'll be able to book a service you'll be able to buy a product
or you'll be able to cash it out this is the utilities that comes with that particular nft
and uh we'll have the service event we started by wanting to have only pet service providers
but we've been getting approached by a lot of other businesses that they think you know it would help us too as well if we list
other businesses so it could be like a non-pet related business and we're thinking about it i
think in the future of those businesses sorry why not feature coca-cola you know yeah i mean like
if they offer something to our the purpose of that is to offer something back to
our community so if you're a business listed on popular in order for you to be shown on the map
you got to provide something by a coupon or whatever the number is percentage off or anything
so if if if for example if a hairdresser wants to be unpopular or like you said coca-cola and then
because we down the road we have million, 20 million people on platform.
And that's going to provide value to our community and to us. Why not?
As long as that's the main purpose is to give back to our community and to give back to popular where we can generate some funds and then donate as much as possible as a company.
So, yeah, that we're looking into that as well. But we're going to start with breast service providers and hopefully eventually in the future we'll roll it out to anyone else did you want me to go through some features that we have
on popular uh if you want like the business side yeah that'd be awesome please yeah thank you okay cool so we do have different features for
businesses as well so if you're a business if you're a pet service provider you can get listed
on popular by by going through a business nft which is nft as a service provider with that
you offer your services to our community so anyone on our platform can book a service using our token or other cryptocurrency that we support.
But for you as a business, what we offer you, we give you tools.
So for example, back in the day, I used to have a dog walking business.
I needed a software that would run me about $150 a month.
With Popular, we give you that for free, which is, we did have that on web too we're bridging it over
and we're making it better where you know you have a business um you get calendar booking system
you get uh you know invoicing you can do your own invoices uh send emails run your team so many so
many features take payments and whatnot just by being on popular and getting that nft the nft is
mainly to get you listed on
popular if you don't want to be shown on the map no problem you can get the nft and run your
business if you want the tools only you can do that if you want to be shown on the map you would
have to offer something to our to our community members that can be you know something for free
a coupon or a product whatever the case is and so that that would be through the business nft section
the cases so that that would be through the business nft section and as well we do have a
social impact section for non-profits so if you're a non-profit that you want to be listed on popular
you go through a manual process just to make sure you're actually a legitimate non-profit business
we give you a platform to accept donations uh in the form of nfts and cryptocurrency
with that there's no fees.
So we don't take anything from that.
So 100% of your donations go straight to them.
And as well, if you're a nonprofit,
we'll give you a platform.
Eventually, if you want to create NFTs
to generate more funds for your platform,
we'll give you a platform to do that as well.
Plus, we have an adoption section community-based adoption
so let's say you're you're you're trying to humane society you want to adopt adopt bets
you have 50 pests for adoption up for adoption and someone wants to adopt bets but they can't
afford it we have a community-based adoption so anyone on our platform can donate their tokens
can donate other cryptocurrency and they can donate donate their NFTs towards someone's adoption fee.
All by using our platform.
We take no money out of that.
100% go straight to the adoption fee.
And that way, with that, all adoptions will be recorded on the blockchain.
So eventually, in the future, what we're trying to build, we're trying to build a database where, you know, all pets that get adopted on Popular, they'll be, you know, you get listed there as, you know, as a pet parent.
And let's say you abandon your pet down the road.
And with Popular, everything will be on the blockchain.
Everything will be in our database.
We'll know eventually who abandoned their pets.
And let's say you go somewhere else
and you want to adopt a pet your name will be listed there you can't adopt any more pets just
that way you don't abandon them again or you don't harm any pets and same goes to anyone that harms
pets so we're trying to build database for the future it might take a long time but we're there
we're going to do that so that's another part of of popular as well and and we have a lot of small
features that we've built and that we have a lot of small features that
we've built and that we want to implement as you know assisting animal in need one of the
cool part of that is let's say anywhere in the world you see an animal in need
and all you have to do is just take a pic and and drop a pin so the app lets you drop a pin location
with that a notification goes out to,
let's say there's a nonprofit in the area,
there's someone that would like to help,
they'll get a notification, they'll come in,
you know, save the pet or do whatever they need
and maybe feed a pet or do all that stuff.
So that'll go through our platform.
So these are some of the key features that we have.
Plus we do have that tracker
that I will maybe speak about in a bit.
I will explain what the tracker does and
all that stuff yeah thank you that's that's really exciting for for people who are you know pet owners
and that you know go for walks every day if you know let's just say in a perfect world and future
if people are you know able to you know
generate a small amount of revenue for for taking the dogs for a walk and it could also um you know
support a healthier lifestyle as well um having people get out and walking um i think is is
obviously a good thing so it's awesome that there's a potential for people to you know generate
revenue to like you said utilize it for having a pet
tracker or different different products that you know help support the curve for their animal yeah
the cool thing about the tracker the way we built it is your pets can actually earn while they're
walking on their own so they don't have to walk with you so you still have to do two walks a day
but during the day
let's say your dog is walking your cat is walking they're earning while they're walking that's
another cool part of having a tracker and then the cool thing about the tracker with with all
the great features there um if you stake you can have a tracker you don't need an nft right you
can have a tracker you can walk and earn why not but by having an nft and
then having a tracker if you stick them together on top of getting that one year free subscription
now you're earning more in the form of nfts so with these the the way the app would work is
the gamify side comes in where it's sort of like a pokemon go you'll be walking a certain path every
day and there's a business that's close to where you walk
that's registered on popular let's say a groomer and the platform lets you know okay there's something
there's a coupon at the groomer just walk in and say hello so all you do is just walk maybe a couple
minutes away from your path and then say hello by by the time you get out of you get out of that
business you get airdropped a coupon from that particular business.
Coupon-based NFT, whatever the NFT is or whatever the coupon is.
It could be, for example, if you're a smart business, maybe you want to bring in more people to your doors.
It could be a free grooming visit.
It doesn't have to cost you upfront costs as a business.
So let's say when we used to market, let's say we had restaurants back in the day.
We had to spend a couple thousand dollars a month upfront.
With this, you spend nothing.
All you do is you're spending time.
Meaning, let's say you do a free grooming visit.
It's not costing you upfront money.
But let's say you're not busy a certain day.
People can come in and you spend your time by cutting pet's hair, for example,
for whatever the case is.
With that, that person comes back.
Maybe that person tells their friend and whatnot.
So that's by having a tracker, by having an NFT,
and they're staked together, you get these doors open for you.
Otherwise, you're only walking around with your pet
if you don't have a tracker on an NFT on the platform.
So yeah, so there's a lot to go through that we've thought about for the past 12 years um you know and uh we have a growing
business we uh we've we've been building and we have a passion and that's why we're still here
and that's why we're still growing and i i say this to a lot of nft you know nft investors you
know you gotta invest like graham mentions it too all the time.
It's like, you got to invest in a founder, you got to invest in a company.
We have a lot coming.
And we, you know, I'm passionate about this.
And I've been doing this for 12 years.
And I haven't made any money because money is not the most important thing for me.
And we need money.
Every company needs money.
I get that.
But to me, it's not the most important part.
To me, it's a mission.
You make a change, make a difference, and leave this world a better place than you know than when i'm when i'm here so yeah so invest in a in a in a company invest in a founder a company
that can grow in the next five years that your nfts can be no financial advice but these nfts
can be worth a lot of money because eventually when we roll out the tracker and we have a chance
of rolling that out in the next three to four months even without the support of the nft uh base we're going to burn the
rest so if you if you're if you own one of our 200 nfts think of where the nft can be down the road
and think of the nft where there's 10 million people on the platform just like small things to
tell people that you don't just uh you're not, you're not looking for the next three months, six months or a year.
You're looking at a company that, that passionate, passionate founder, big growing community.
We already have a working product.
There's a way where we can eventually onboard millions and millions of people on.
And then you'll be one of the owner of, let's say if we sell out all the NFTs, 3,500.
So there's a lot there to play and there's
a lot coming and you know support us along the way and at the end of this you'll be happy
and is there have you got a time frame on any of these things at the moment or is it just a case of these are things that have a trajectory for the future so so mainly for our tracker is
we're we're hoping we've already tested your tracker all ready to go we're
mainly working on a software side and then ordering a product so I'm not gonna
push it but I could say before the end of the year the product will be available
hoping three to four months but let's say in the next uh you know where we have we got august
september october november for five months okay let's say before the end of the year that product
will be available in regards of token we're just waiting on on mr trump so whenever that uh the
u.s regulations comes in uh we follow we're in canada we follow the same it's very strict here
i know you i think you guys are in
the UK. I know it's very strict there.
It's a lot stricter here. We can't even breathe.
We're hoping
that regulations happen
in the US. We can roll that
over automatically here.
Hopefully, three to four months as well, we'll
have that token available.
Exciting times ahead. yes and we're working hard towards that we work you know what I mean we've always been working hard
we put in a lot of time in the web to side and now now we're we're directing a
lot of marketing to the web to now instead of the web 3 which we tried to
do web 3 it seems like it's just a bit harder on the marketing side so our next marketing campaigns will go towards web 2. yeah no that's understandable
um it is quite a difficult space to to build in um and yeah i imagine it's you know there's much
less people to kind of target as well in in the web free space rather than the web two but you know i think this can this kind of product and service could tie into to both sides um but i think you know
i think web three is quite unique for that when it comes to building because you know usually as a
as a web two company people wouldn't see the the progress of the building side but in web three it's
kind of a more personal connection with the community of the building side but in web 3 it's kind of
a more personal connection with the community of people that see value in what it is that you're
building so it's a case of you know showcasing over time what it is that you're developing how
the progress is getting on um what you're able to accomplish um so it is quite a different kettle
of fish rather than building in the web 2 space but you know i think i think it's awesome that you're that you know people like yourself are building somewhere in the middle of web two and
web three and tapping into both sides because you know where the web three element can add a lot of
value and so that you know the web two side is kind of where everything is kind of come from and
kind of tied back into because you know it's much bigger it's it's where all the applications are especially on the software side and the social media side but you know i think it's it's awesome
that there's a lot of animal lovers out there and you know we all want to contribute and support
good things in the world and not everyone can always do that so you know if you're creating
an infrastructure that helps people be able to further support animals whilst you know taking care of themselves i think that's a pretty cool concept
yeah and even like i say the same thing even like if you're not an animal person but
you're an investor you know sometimes you gotta look at a company you know what they're doing
and what the industry is about, right?
So our industry is a huge industry outside the Web3 space.
Let's say the animal space is huge.
It's about $250 billion at the moment industry.
So there's a lot of money that goes in there.
So as an investor, you got to look, you know, let's say I'm picking up a popular NFT for $20, right?
Where would that be in the next five years it's like
picking up a tesla stock 10 15 years ago whatever the numbers and any other things that's how you
you have to look at it uh especially early on and then you know and that's how i would look at it if
i'm an investor i've invested a lot of a lot of like other uh projects and uh they haven't done well you know i just i'm i mainly
invested because of the founders that was friends with whatever but it didn't happen i understand
i understand the risk but sometimes you know as an investor i know a lot of them were looking for
quick stuff but as an investor let's say like gram gram looks at these things it's important to look
at these things if you want something if you want to if you know let's say you pick up 10 popular nfts down the road these entities could be worth a lot of money plus
utilities of them for example the crying elephant has governor's token attached to it
so you know that meaning you know down the road let's say uh when we airdrop when we release our
governor's token you're gonna get some of these tokens in your wallet and these tokens could be
worth a lot of money you never know because that we might have millions and millions of people on the platform and then that platform
is getting used and then you know that with that uh your your token will be worth a lot your nft
would be worth a lot so so yeah so that's uh that's that's what i want to mention to a lot of
nft investors that you know you got to look into these things if you're not if you're not looking
for a quick flip you always have to look at the company look at the founder and see what's in
place what's coming you know because this industry that we're in is a huge industry very very big
industry and there's a lot of money being invested in it as well so yeah so yeah and uh
the trackers propel your brand um i think once you've got lots of people using these trackers,
I think that's going to, I think the trackers is the way.
That's going to really get a lot of eyeballs onto your brand
and certainly help grow.
Definitely.
We've already been, while we have been approached by other,
you know, other projects projects even in web3 space
that are looking to maybe a white label our our trackers for for not pets for other things
skateboarders and other stuff so there's a lot there's a lot we can do in the future
but uh our our main target at the moment is to release the tracker to release our token
from now to the end of the year and then grow the platform from there
because by releasing a tracker the tracker we guarantee that there's money coming into our
platform on on yearly basis monthly basis uh with that with that funds we can you know uh push the
more push the development of the app push more marketing give back to our community and grow
from there so these are the most important thing for us.
And, you know, these trackers are, it's like, it's not just, they're well thought out.
You know, everything that we have put in the tracker, because we love animals.
We got community-based, you know, as well.
Because there's a lot of trackers out there, but when you lose a pet, you're on your own.
With popular, you lose a pet, you have a community behind you.
All the features on popular are different than other features not all of
them a lot of them are different than other features because we care about
animals mainly sorry what about pet wearable wearables like like health
monitors and stuff I mean I Very remarkable about to explode.
Yeah.
So I'll go a little bit about what the tracker does outside tracking your pets.
It monitors pet activity levels. It tracks your steps taken daily, active minute, calories meant like us humans, same thing.
What it does as well, it monitors your sleep.
So if you leave the tracker on while your pets are sleeping, it monitors that.
We have AI implemented.
So what the AI does is it looks at all these metrics.
And if there's any changes, it lets you know that there might be issues with your pet.
As a pet parent, maybe you should take a look at that.
Plus one thing we implemented as well, a temperature control.
You can't take temperature of pets because it's impossible.
Pets, some of them have thick purses, some of them have thin purses.
It's very hard to maintain properly.
What we have is temperature control.
We take temperature of the area where your pet is.
So let's say you leave your pet in a hot car.
The tracker tracks all that, sends you a notification, letting you know that your pet is in danger, shame if it's in a cold area and whatnot.
And then so many other features that we have each tracker has its own QR code let's say your tracker dies somebody
finds your pet they can scan the tracker with their camera and then they find out
who owns that particular pet there's another there's another way to speak to
your pet because we have a yeah you know if you lose your pet let's say ask cats
for example they disappear I can't find them. They don't speak.
They don't bark, whatever.
So it's hard to tell where they are.
I can actually speak from my phone to the tracker.
And then even if the cat does not reply back, I can hear my voice somewhere.
And then maybe I can go find my pet.
And there's other things as well that we have implemented there to, you know, support animals' health, support pet parents and go from there.
Quality, dude. I think if the area of the market is primed to its growth,
which you can establish yourself as a mainstay brand within that ecosystem,
I think that's where the growth fits with your brand.
Yeah, dude, I'm excited for you.
I think things have got a bit of a check of the routing numbers.
I think it's going to melt your brain a bit.
Thank you. numbers i think uh it's gonna melt your brain a bit yeah thank you we should help
yeah thank you thank you so much yeah thank you we're like we're like i always say it's
just a passion i do this because you know i love animals so much and i want to make a difference
not just for pets it's an animal thing like we want to we we do have a you know we want to support you know animal organization in the world that find
that fight poachers if you look at our first NFT that's what it represents and then our and we have
another NFT that comes out of that as well we're 100% of the funds will go towards uh not towards
supporting non-profit that find that fight poachers in Africa.
So there's a lot we're doing.
And the thing about Pet Parents too is we support organizations that want to help animals.
So for example, eventually when we were allowed to trackers
and then it's all marketed properly on the Web2 side,
when people see what we do is we give back.
So for example, you pick up a tracker.
A portion of your real subscription goes to a nonprofit.
You choose which nonprofit you would like, and then we donate it on your behalf. So when a lot of pet parents see things like that, we're popular, giving back,
popular, you know, care about our pest health.
You know, they have a sanctuary coming
up. So they would only want to support organizations like us because that's what I do myself. I look,
for example, if I want to buy something from a company that I'm paying a lot of money for,
I would look at the company first. I would see, okay, what's this company doing? Are they donating
to animals? Are they doing this? Are they doing that? and if they're doing it I would support them more if they're not then different story so for us we care
about that cause that's the most important thing for us it's not just
about the money you know it's mainly about the animals and then eventually
when when people find out more about us especially on the web 2 side that would
push us faster and further quickly.
And we can get to a point where we can save a million animal a year.
That's what we would like to do.
In the next five years, we would like to support a million animal a year.
And it could be a vet care.
It could be food.
It could be anything on top of us having our own sanctuary
and then caring for wildlife and caring for our pets as well.
So a lot to do, a lot to work on. We keep pushing. and then caring for wildlife and caring for our pets as well.
So a lot to do, a lot to work on. We keep pushing.
Organically, it's taken a bit longer than we would like,
but things are going faster at the moment on the Web2 end.
And hopefully by the end of 2025, you'll see a lot more from us.
And 2026 will be a great year for popular it sounds like it's going to be a
really good year for popular with the things that have been in development but it it is exciting to
to think about like what you can do with these concepts especially with you know this kind of
technology when you're implementing ai and those cool features um you know I've been in many
scenarios myself where um we've lost our dog that's ran away or you know I remember not too
long ago someone came to my house and said um my cat's collar is showing up on my phone has been
in your garden um it actually wasn't in my garden I think it was somewhere in the hedges behind
but I thought that it was pretty cool that um they had the ability to to find their animals
or just keep track of where they are you know if especially you know cats more so than dogs um
some people's cats are outside quite a lot and sometimes they don't come home as frequently as
so i imagine it would bring a lot of peace to to someone to to kind of see whereabouts their
their animals are so i think think that's a really cool thing
and a really cool concept to bring to fruition.
Yeah, definitely, that's for sure.
So how are you finding it in Web3 from the community standpoint?
By the sounds of it, you guys have been building for quite a long time,
and I imagine that these products and services
take a long time to come to fruition um how has the community been around having patience for these
things and um you know I imagine you guys are obviously also really proactive in the community
as well so I imagine being seen quite frequently and having people be able to communicate with you
would you know bring some comfort to that but I was just curious how the community are kind of
responding to to the development of your of your company so I mean it's hit and
miss sometimes with web 3 we've been we were always active so we have over 60
games a week in our discord. We answer tickets right away.
No ticket wait, wait more than a couple of hours for at least one reply.
I probably do at least 20 spaces a week.
So we've been active.
Our first mint was free.
So that's the cool thing about that is, okay, community minted are for free.
There's not much.
There's expectation, but it's not very much because you know if somebody complains uh it was a free mint
we could say you know we understand thank you for support and all that stuff but we're building
we're pushing we know uh every company needs funding we're trying to get funding outside
uh outside our community and and so on and so forth.
But, you know, our first mint was on Polygon.
Our second mint was on Solana just because Polygon has been slow
and the support there hasn't been as good as, you know, as it was a couple of years back.
So our mint recently is on Solana.
But I feel like we have over 1,100 holders,
but it seems the support wasn't there from the old holders.
Maybe because their ETH maxes maybe,
or they're not on Solana as much.
I'm not sure.
I can't say.
But yeah, our Solana Mint has not been as good as we thought it would be,
but it's pushing better.
Last week we probably got 100 Mint,
and this week is a little bit less, but we're pushing.
We thought it would be better because we did a lot of work.
We collabed with a lot of communities and whatnot.
But yeah, so you got some people that always asking questions
about which we reply properly but and
yeah and everybody I guess is a lot of people are waiting for the token to be
released these are mainly as a non animal people they're just what do you
call it with three people they're just walk and earn and whatnot yeah so it's
like I said it's hit a miss I'm not sure sometimes I feel like I know sometimes
I feel like I don't know like any any other founder in this space. So we work hard every day, seven days a week. We push, we try our best. But like at the end of the day, you know, we're waiting to release our product and we can give it back. We can give back more to our community. And with this mint coming up now, we want to give back to both the old minters and the new minters as well as much as we can.
And we're hoping that happens shortly.
That's the best I can do on my end.
Because I thought the mint would go a little bit better.
That way it makes ordering trackers faster and whatnot.
But I guess we had to go back to the Web2 side.
And we're hoping, like I said, before the end of the year,
we'll get the trackers rolling and whatnot.
And whoever stays with us, we'll get more benefits.
And a lot of people have left.
Not just popular.
In this space, people leave.
You know how it is.
Yeah.
No, absolutely. And it's so difficult and uh you know it's awesome that you're
you're really pushing through because you know we can you know obviously we don't know what it's
like from your perspective personally but we can appreciate the the complexities and the
difficulties of trying to push on and trying new things and you know seeing what works were and you know with the the you know the ethos behind what you're doing is to support animals it
you know it's awesome that you've kind of got that drive and you're you know you don't look at
thinking oh this isn't working so i'll just scrap it you know it sounds like a lifelong endeavor
for you guys so it's pretty awesome that you've kind of you know you're pivoting and trying to find the best angle to kind of approach this to build out your ecosystem
and I was kind of you know curious as to if there's if popular of being able to provide
any support to animal welfare in any way or if there is anything specific you want to target in
the future what what is it that you're aiming to try and accomplish first?
Because I imagine there's probably a lot of things.
So, yeah, we always support animal organizations.
What I try, everything comes in a way for myself.
We do support a lot of nonprofit organizations in third world countries.
So I live in Canada now, but I currently don't come from Canada.
I come from a third world countries. So I live in Canada now, but I currently don't come from Canada. I come from a third world country.
And I feel like the money goes further there because the funding that we provide is not as much as we would like to.
Because like I said, the business is not generating any funds.
So everything comes from me personally.
Yeah, we do a monthly basis work.
We purchase food for a certain nonprofit organization.
We support them with a bit of vet care. We do all these kind of things just to provide and support But I have some people in the area that check
regularly on them that we donate and whatnot. But that's what we're doing. But what we want to do is
mainly, hopefully when things roll out with the tracker and money coming in, we want to build our
own sanctuary in Canada and the US and the governments
here sometimes provide support by providing land. There's a lot of, for
example, empty places that is owned by government that if you want to open a
nonprofit or sanctuary and whatnot, the government will give it to you
rent-free in a way where you only have to pay maybe taxes and whatnot. So that would probably go along the way for someone like us.
So we're hoping, you know, 26, 27 to roll those out and help people.
Not just by giving them money because veterinary care is expensive.
And a lot of people have, you know, I know some people that end up putting their pets down just because they can't afford it.
And sometimes that procedure can be cheap, you know, maybe $500.
But some people cannot afford it.
And veterinarians here are, you know, and it's all about money.
It's all about business for them, right?
So most of them don't care about, you know, animal lives and whatnot.
So we're hoping to get to a point where we open sanctuaries we have veterinarians on on site and we can support more people that's the that's very
important for me to do that and then we'll go from there and we'll see what else we can do and
depends how much money coming in every year for the company and then we're hoping to support as
many other non-profits as possible plus a platform will have non-profits where
anyone can donate using a platform you can donate tokens you can donate nfts or anything you like
so that would be great as well yeah no thank you that was a great answer and you mentioned a couple
of things there that i thought was awesome um one that you know it wasn't just about you know look
see we donated there you go you wanted to make sure that it was going to the right place
and being used for the right reasons.
And so checking the legitimacy of donations, I thought that was pretty cool.
And as well, you touched on something that is, I think, really important.
I mean, I'm no expert in pricing and the costs of veterans around the world.
But what I do know is in the uk by the sounds of it's
the same in canada it's really expensive right across the board and it clearly feels like it is
just a bit of business and just about money which is a huge shame shame because to anyone that has
any animal of any kind it's a member of the family so you know it kind of feels like it's being leaned on that
because of that that people will just pay any price and will at least try to and unfortunately
like you said in some circumstances people can't and that is a shame and I imagine a lot of people
around the world are uneasy with the charitable side of things because of not knowing exactly
where the funds go or being happy with where
the funds do go.
So the fact that you're thinking of doing your own sanctuary and kind of, you know,
building into that avenue, I think that's pretty cool as well because I think that would
be awesome.
And at least that way you can provide the care that you wish to provide the way that
you think, you know, works and have a community of people that love animals kind of supporting
that as well. So, you know, that a an amazing vision that i could see as well
yeah definitely definitely you know there's you know this there's a lot we can do and there's a
lot we want to do we just have to uh you know the funding is important and then i think we we
realized that we gotta you know go different routes is important. And then I think we realized that we got to,
you know, go different routes at the moment. And which is a good thing, you know, which is a good
thing, because we know where we need to be, we know what we need to get. And we're hoping the
next five to six months, we'll make a big difference in our mission. And then we'll go
from there. And, you know know having a platform where we onboard
real non-profits you know that way we we want to make it uh we want to make it easy for anyone to
donate and want to make it more uh trustworthy you know like if you want to come to pop it you
know that you're donating to a certain non-profit you know they went through a betting system they
we what we do is uh go through a manual process.
You have to upload all the certifications, all the licenses, whatever the case is.
In every country is different.
And then that way you know your money is going to the right people.
That's very important.
And then we'll go from there.
And, yeah, so that's about all I got at the moment.
And thank you for having us. Always. I know I've been here a couple times, so that's about all I got at the moment. And thank you for having us always.
I know I've been here a couple of times, so thank you.
And it's great.
I can't wait for the book.
I'm excited for that as well.
So we're hoping to get that shortly.
Yeah, no, thank you.
We really do appreciate you coming and giving us an update on where you guys are at
and giving a breakdown to help us further understand
what it is that you're building and help people that might not have heard of you guys before as
well. So we appreciate your time and the fact that you're doing so many spaces every single week and
working really hard and building fair play and it is awesome and I imagine you're forever trying
to make sure that there's no burnout taking place. So, you know, I hope that that's something you're always factoring in
because it must be really difficult to keep driving forward.
And in these kind of areas, you know, it must be really tough
to take this approach of building these applications
and trying to find ways to generate the revenue
and obviously having to pivot all the time.
And, you know, sounds like a lot of hard work.
And, you know, if you guys, you know, came came into fruition in 2013 you've been around a very long time so you know
fair play for that as well yeah thank you it has been uh you know it gets like it gets to a time
where you know you feel like you're burnt out because it's a bit like our business is a bit
different than regular nft or project because we do have an app where it requires testing it requires you know marketing it requires uh you
know a building development uh ui ux so there's a lot of work involved on daily basis calls with
the team doing this doing that even on a on you know a part-time basis there's a lot of work
involved plus doing spaces plus answering tickets answering tickets, talking to the community.
So it's a lot of work.
I'm not going to say it's not.
But, you know, I love what I'm doing, and I love this.
And sometimes I feel like I need to take a break, which I do.
I have a great team behind me that supports us.
Animal lovers as well on the team, almost everybody, which is very important.
And important for the mission too, right?
So, yeah, so sometimes I feel like I'm burnt out.
I take a couple of days, not off, but I just stay away from Discord as much
and less spaces or no spaces.
And that helps.
And then the team takes over they can handle
discord if i have another person on the team that would do does spaces as well if i'm not around too
so that would help but yeah but i do like leading to the mint it was a lot of work after the mint
it was just a bit draining uh i do need some time off but you know i'm still here and i'm pushing as
much as possible just to get things done.
And like I said, from now till the end of the year, a lot's coming with us.
A lot's going on.
And then we're going to be...
2026 is going to be a great year, but the end of 2025 is going to be a great year as well.
So stick with us, support us, and the future is bright.
Yeah, that's awesome.
And yeah, well played.
And I'm glad that there's ways in which you can kind of take a break.
And, you know, it sounds like you've got a good team around you,
which is awesome because, you know, having a good team is a game changer.
And sometimes that is the case, you know,
when there's times in which you can't always be moving forward
as long as you're not going backwards, then, you know,
that's a win in itself so yeah we're definitely you know excited to see to see things come to fruition and
you know these new things come into your ecosystem and see how that plays out you know like we said
it's exciting we love to see and hear people building and you know we love it when people
tie in these good causes to you know you find ways in which to you know creatively
maximize the potential of the value that you create and i suppose that's you know one of the
most exciting elements to web3 is that you can create this value and then choose which way in
which it adds value to the world and the people that helped support it in the first place so
yeah definitely really excited to kind of see you guys keep moving forward and uh you know we
definitely appreciate you allocating some time for us tonight thank you for always having me and uh
thank you for the support and looking forward uh doing more things together plus i'm looking
forward for the book excited as well to see how things turn out yeah thank you yeah we're excited as well we're almost uh definitely really excited about it
your story is well good it's uh it really incorporates uh uh your mission some somewhat
i think you'll like it i think i'm excited you like it I'm excited
It's been a long journey with that, but I'm excited. Yeah, great thing great things take time
Not working is fantastic is one of our favorites
And then I'm sure some of the communities that were probably in the book are they still around or not probably not but that's part of the space so all good
most most of them are uh did
three four four projects that aren't around anymore okay cool
out of four okay that's good good night so that's good
yeah a lot of the buyers uh asking around some of the some of them aren't around because of like
bad contracts and things like this um and uh yeah some have just been neglected but yeah for the
most part they're all in there but it's a i kind of feel like it's a stamp it's a bit of a it's a
time stamp this is going to be the first book of many so you know this one
Is the first stamp, you know, and it's a stamp in time with all of these web free brands, you know coming together on this thing and
And in the future will be all sorts of other different brands as well
I'm hoping to get some more music artists involved in the second book. We didn't get any music artists
Directly as you tell a lie. No please't get any music artists um directly i should tell a lie no klesian
please as music artists um i suppose you could count zhal as well somewhat but it's not so much
music cards but yeah i want to i want to try and focus more of a light on music nfts um with the
second book because there's a lot of fantastic artists out there that are exclusively web free and i want to try and support that yeah that'll be cool that'll be cool i wanted to mention a couple things before we get
off if it's okay after absolutely i just wanted uh about the mint we do have a mint bounty going
on at the moment i posted a couple things on top where if you pick up three nfts
uh you would get an extra three mint and four elephants and then you get uh picked from a
bounty we got so many different nfts that you can pick from as a bounty some of these nfts are
worth like 0.2 so uh so yeah so you so you buy three you end up with nine that's uh one of the
one of the bounties that's going on at the
moment plus if you um you know we if you go to our page which i'll post it up if you want to
if you want to pre-order a tracker you can you can or pre-order a tracker that comes in with
two year subscription and so many other perks and nft as well and you're paying um less than 50
percent of what you would pay so that's there
as well you can pre-order that in advance so yeah that's what's going on that's what i want to
mention thanks for having us appreciate everyone's time as well and looking forward to you know coming
back again so yeah we touched on the book um i want to i want to tell people what we've been doing so for
those who don't know we invited web3 brands to join us uh in collaborating on a storybook
invited web3 brands to join us uh in collaborating on a storybook um where you know each project will
have a page of artwork and a page of story um and we've created loads of mini stories short stories
um using people's brands or characters or narratives or and things like this and we you
know we've spent a good amount of time with some of these
um some of these brands so with that you can like there's a lot of little sort of little
inside jokes and stuff um i've managed to drop a few little sort of uh funny little insiders in
there um but i'm really excited to to show everyone what what we've what we've put together um we're so close now it's um we're just waiting on just the
final just the final draft i guess it's probably where it's with a v3 i guess is what we're waiting
for um and then once we've got that we'll we'll be ready to rock and roll you can pre-order the
book at the minute actually and there is the option to pre-order the book at the minute, actually. There is the option to pre-order the book. We've had our advert in the crypto magazine.
So if you picked up the last copy of the crypto magazine,
there's a coming soon, a full-page advert for Community Communities book,
which was really cool.
I think you still get that in supermarkets, possibly, maybe.
But I think the next edition comes out real soon.
And, yeah, we're ready to rock and roll.
So I'm really excited, man, really excited. And your and your page is wicked like i say your story is really cool the artwork you provided is great
really really like that uh and the story we've put together is really cool i mean i'm half
tempted to read it to you read your bedtime story but uh i think rive might tell me off
yeah i'm excited i can't wait to see it
yeah thank you but uh yeah, definitely excited.
And, you know, we definitely give a big shout out as well to everyone in the space who's, you know,
who's building and trying to add value and, you know, providing utility and solutions and really celebrating creativity,
you know, like with what you're doing over at Popular with the with the app and gamifying um exercise and
in the well-being of animals um and and also with you know with the assets themselves with the nfts
and the artwork behind it you know the artwork is really good i absolutely love the the elephants i
think they're really well put together and it's it's awesome that so many of these elements kind
of come together to create the the the final vision if you will it's
just the painful part of reaching that vision is all the hard work that comes in from conception
to that point you know which i imagine you feel very much every single day as much as we love
what we do and we're super passionate you've still got to find a way to to bring that to fruition
uh you know in a way that it makes it successful and beneficial for for not just you and your team but
the community and the cause as well yeah it's uh you know it's hard to um in any business not just
web2 business any web3 business it's hard to keep going one while you're not like for example you
know as as founders we try a lot and sometimes you don't
see the results that you want to see so sometimes that's why a lot of people give up in the web 3
space i see a lot of friends that have given up along the way because they've tried they've tried
to try it and when it comes to minting and whatnot the support wasn't there and some of them just
leave which understandable so it's hard to do that. But for us, especially for myself, I'm passionate about animals.
That's the main important thing for me in doing this.
So the only way to do great work is to love what you do.
And that's the most important thing.
I love what I'm doing.
I love animals.
That's the most important thing.
I'm here for them.
I'm here for pet parents.
And we're going to make big change eventually in this world
before we leave it. And that's why we keep going and we keep pushing. So to any founder
out there, keep trying, keep pushing, you know, make sure whenever you start a project
to love what you're doing. That's the most important part. If you don't, at the end,
at the end it just does not work thank you
it just does not work. Thank you.
yeah no thank you very much and uh you know that's definitely a great insight there and uh
and very good advice so you know thank you for sharing that as well but uh yeah it's been it's
been a great conversation and as i said earlier you know it's been great to kind of learn more
about about what you guys are doing and the vision and you know it's important that
any founder doesn't lose sight of of what they're doing and and why they're doing it um and you know
it does get hard and things do take time as well i think everybody learns that that's building
something is that you know things do take time and we don't know what the future holds you know
we don't know how that's going to take effect
like you know what you guys are building and you know weighing on regulation where you live in the
world plays a part in that and there's so many things to factor in and some things you don't
know you're gonna you need to factor it in until you do so you know it's it's definitely an
interesting journey that a lot of learning takes place and you know I think a lot of experience comes from it as well so you know it's it's awesome to to kind of hear your journey
a little bit and your story and see how you and your team work together to you know to bring this
to fruition and you know maybe one day in the future once everything plays out the way you want
it to that they'll they'll be a great story to tell amongst your
community of how you brought that to fruition as well yeah definitely definitely definitely
maybe write a book about it yeah yeah but yeah it has been a long journey you know outside the
web3 side just from the web2 to web3 it it's been a long journey. And, you know, it's exciting at times, stressful at a lot of other times,
but I wouldn't want it any other way, I guess.
Yeah.
No, definitely.
Definitely.
What was I going to say?
I was going to say something then.
I see the vision. Yeah then I see the vision I yeah I see the vision I I see
the vision in your minds you've portrayed that really well tonight I can see your vision and
yeah but I wish you I wish you well man right behind you thank you so much appreciate that that and same same here from my side too yeah i mean if i can help with anything just just let me know even if it's just to bounce an idea
off ask a question anything uh just let me know 100 appreciate that and if you guys need anything
from us anytime we're here yeah thank you we appreciate that and uh yeah definitely means the world to hear that from
you guys as well sorry beckon was you going to say something there yeah i want to get trackers
for the team um i want to know what the entire community community team is doing call team at any
given time uh where they are um and this sort of thing so when they make excuses as to why they
don't turn up for a twitter space i want to be able to say well actually you know you were down the pub because your tracker told
me that you were down the pub so we definitely need a community community tracker um so we can
keep tabs on all the team members and their whereabouts to make sure they don't get themselves
into trouble um you know evie hasn't slept for 24 hours um so we should uh give evie a kick up kick up the back side and get her to go to bed
uh or uh it could be could be z he's gotten lost walking the dog uh
yeah bacon's only saying this because he lives on wheels so like you know it's gonna look real good
for him yeah i'll be proper vacation every day how about baking some 50 steps how's they manage that
i call it i call it the studio um so this is the studio it's a it's a mercedes sprinter
and it's where i currently live and it has everything that i need and it's cozy and it's
mine um but yeah now this you can't underestimate the power of being able to take you home with you.
I never have to pack whenever I go away.
I never leave something at home.
Like, let's say I randomly end up going for a beer with someone and they're like, oh, you're fancy to get my darts?
Yeah, let me just go home and get my darts so I can pop back home and grab my darts.
But yeah, don't underestimate the power of being able to take you home with you.
It's fantastic.
It's so useful. it's so useful it can't be can't be understated
There were many positives it's a having a studio
But anyway good good night boys and girls it's been a great space really enjoy featuring you and I can't wait to
Show the book to you. You will love it. Thank you so much.
We do have a giveaway.
I'll do a draw after this space and post it with the actual tweet,
which is a free PPG Mint.
Thank you guys for having us.
Appreciate you.
Appreciate what you're doing as well for the communities and everyone else.
And we look forward to coming back.
And like I said, if you guys ever need anything, just hit me up. You know where I am.
Thank you so much. Appreciate your time too.
Cheers for the giveaway.
There is one rule though. Trey's
not allowed to win it because Trey wins
everything. So he needs
to leave some for the rest of us.
I'm not joking. I'm joking.
Keep him in.
But I mean, you know, if he wins, I told you so, all right?
Yeah, yeah, thank you.
No, thank you, everyone.
But yeah, it's quite funny.
Many, many times, just Trier winning.
It's incredible.
And, you know, even back in the day when the
Twitter picker was a thing you know we've we've done them ourself and he's name would come up so
I'll redo it and I'll do it and there it is again I'm like what is going on here I had to just
completely factor him out it's quite funny but uh yeah no thank you so much and uh you know thank
you for for doing the giveaway for the space as well we appreciate that and shout out to whoever
wins but a massive thank you as well to everyone that's listened in.
There's some absolute legends in here.
There's some new people as well.
So to those of you who are new, thank you.
Shout out to Graham Ryder down there as well.
Great to see you, my friend,
and all the amazing things to do for the space.
We've got Miss Evie down there.
We've got Pele down there as well,
which I believe is you anyway.
But we've got Party Animals down there.
We've got Jennifer.
We've got Pets Emiere. And we've got joe as well and a shout out to the core team and to you as well for joining us
tonight so that being said we will call it a night but you know thank you again we will be back
next week um we've got some new people that we've never featured before um we're also featuring
gene hoffman as well the ceo the chain at blockchain
again so we're super excited about that and it should be another good space so just quickly is
gene hoffman on friday yes okay someone's filled out the form for the second part of friday correct
one of one of my guys so nice he's got a gaming thing and uh i met him a couple of weeks ago uh whose space was
it someone i hadn't connected with in ages i don't remember who it was now but anyway reconnected with
someone recently on onyx and uh on a on a twitter space and i heard him talking about his projects
and i was like dude we need to get you on we need to we need to speak to you we need to give you to give you a green let's go so yeah well yeah i'm glad it's coming
on um it's um drvn labo and base base buster it might be darvin darvin lab um it's just typed out
dead unusual so as always i'm probably butchering that from every angle so i apologize for that but
no that's awesome.
I'm glad they filled it out and definitely look forward to speaking with them.
Just don't tell them I butchered the name before we even spoke and we'll be fine.
Well, as always, our players are having some music.
But thank you very much, everyone.
You've been awesome, popular.
We wish you the most success in the world.
And we look forward to seeing that come to fruition.
And we will definitely be back the same time next week.
As always, we will be in our Telegram vc on tuesday with miss evie hosting our weekly mental health
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