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🎙️WEB3 | +C.O.C ft Richard|LDA aka JCryptoRider | sponsor MONTAGE TOKEN
Recorded: March 22, 2025 Duration: 2:15:01Space Recording
Short Summary
The discussion highlights the launch of the Community of Communities Web3 project, strategic partnerships by Lunar Digital Assets, fundraising efforts through Bit Angels, and emerging trends in privacy and AI. Innovations in blockchain privacy and AI are emphasized, with grants allocated for AI development. The privacy sector is anticipated to contribute to future market growth.
Full Transcription
Revolution founder, Pape the Way, Leagues and Water, Miss Evie Spaces, mental health like clean water.
Tuesdays, roll round lines get soothing corner, a sanctuary found in digital armor.
Community of communities, we rise, ex-spaces buzzer truth, they disguise, Friday, Saturday's voice is amplified.
Together we're strong, Unities are died.
Thy revolution, words like heavy artillery, bacon sandwich, co-host, feed mental artillery.
Late in the week, eggs marks our territory, stories unfolds shaking our narrative, no allegory.
Community of communities, we rise, eggs faces us in truth, they disguised, Friday Saturday's voices amplified.
Together we're strong, unity's our guy.
Thy revolution words like heavy artillery, baking sandwich, co-host feeding mental artillery.
Late in the week X marks our territory, stories unfolds,
shaping our narrative, no allegory.
Community of communities, we rise.
X spaces buzz and truth ain't the skies
Friday Saturday's voices amplify
Together we're strong
Unity's our guy
Fridays live with discussion
Minds intertwine Saturdays replay
Thoughts age like fine wine
From dark to dawn follow the growth line
In your spaces
Innovations the shine
Mental health and spotlight
No need for stage
Communities torchbearers keeping it pipe
This easy suit and toes
Healing and Night Light
With our collective strength
Future ignites
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Community of Communities, a groundbreaking Web3 movement that celebrates the diverse tapestry of human creativity, innovation, and collaboration.
In a world characterized by unprecedented connectivity and decentralization, the community of communities stands as a testament to the power of collective ingenuity.
Together, we'll discover the limitless possibilities of the Web 3 movement and the remarkable individuals and communities who are shaping the future.
Stay tuned for a showcase of inspiration, collaboration, and boundless creativity as we dive deep into the heart of the community of communities.
Welcome aboard. I now bring you our host, Thy Revolution.
Good afternoon, happy Saturday, welcome to the community communities web free space.
Hope everybody is good. Thank you everyone joining. We appreciate you, legends.
Thank you for dropping down to the bottom right corner, smashing that purple pill, liking, comment, reposting, bookmarking.
We appreciate your legends very much.
Tonight, we're super excited and we're super grateful for all of you being here.
Hope everyone has had a great weekend so far.
Tonight, we are featuring the one and only J Crypto Rider, aka Richard.
First, of course, as we always do, we will introduce our co-hosts, our team, and then we will introduce our guest.
Thank you.
for this evening. So without further ado, I thank you all very much and we appreciate you
guys to being here. Well, I will introduce you to none other than the bacon sandwich. Bacon, hello, sir.
Happy Saturday. How are we?
Good afternoon, boys and girls. Yeah, oh man, today, oh jeez, what a day.
So, you know, I had issues on last Saturday with the knives and stuff, right?
So this week, I came in to find out that she'd been, like, beaten up in the street kind of thing.
Basically, a couple of yobboes decided to throw their bike at her.
And it broke a rib and she's got like a bruised pelvis and you know whatever.
So anyway, she somehow stupidly somehow managed to slice her finger on the slicer.
I don't know how much of her finger was still attached.
It was quite a chunk taken off.
But yeah, it was not too pretty, not too pretty.
So I dealt with that being, you know, the hero that I am.
She passed out, so put her in a recovery position.
She came round a little so later.
Got a mum to come and get her to take her to A&E to fix her finger.
But, oh, damn!
So, yeah, I had to work with two of us.
So, I mean, the clothes down took, like, extra long.
We were like we do for an extra half hour.
We did well, though.
We did crack on.
We got shit done.
But, yeah, we just couldn't quite get a pace going to make up for the missing person.
but i hope she's all right um yeah sounds sounds like a atramite situation but third player for coming
to the rest she couldn't look at it she couldn't look at she she was just uh squeezing her finger
saying she couldn't look at you know yeah it's still there she said um
And I was like, yeah, yeah, it's still there.
So I've got the first day here.
I tried to stay calm, but it's difficult because it's a stressful situation.
And obviously the other person is very stressed at this point.
So I tried my very, very best to keep us calm, as chill as I possibly good.
And yeah, yeah, crisis averted somewhat.
but yeah oh it's a nasty one it's gonna take a little while to come back from that i reckon they'll
have to stitch it on i don't i don't think there was uh enough contact there for them to be able to glue it
um so uh her her on her on her finger oh it's a nasty one as well but yeah
i tell you what she she took the pain like a trooper though when i put the dressing on
she yeah she took the pain like an absolute trooper and then obviously and then the adrenaline is
obviously kicking in uh or or wearing down shall i say and then you get the shakes and
Yeah, but she was alright.
She was right.
She dealt with it how most humans would do with such a...
That sounds terrible.
But hello boys and girls.
Welcome to the Saturday space while the Baker sandwich just completely takes over the space and complains about his day normally.
But...
But for those that don't know, I don't really get on with her.
Every single week, we have some kind of confrontation.
And this week, I didn't have to work with her because she'd have to go to a hospital and do those bits.
But yeah, I hope she's all right, man, because it didn't look really bad.
I don't know, it's hard to say.
There wasn't a lot of colour in the end of her finger.
That's what I'm going to say.
Sounds like a right event for evening, but fair play to you, mate, working six days in a row in IRL,
and then doing what we do every single night of the week, seven days a week without any day off.
So fair play to you, bro.
Yeah, paramedic, butcher, salesman, property manager.
That's a jack of all trades mastering on.
Yeah, that's it.
Well, most of some, but, uh, get it going.
Let's go.
We're not a nice one, bro.
We appreciate you, my friend.
And as always, thank you for always being here every single week.
You're an absolute legend.
We also have Z3 in the building.
I don't know if he's multitasking, but if you're able to say hello, Z.
Hello, sir.
Happy Saturday, everyone.
Happy Saturday, everyone.
Let's go.
We're all having a good day.
That's it.
I hope your day is going better than bacon's.
My day's going amazing.
A bit of Jules.
i know yeah poor job you bet on the jails they don't know down to be a that's proper sake that is
that sounds like it but uh yeah no nice one bacon nice one z we also have crypto to in the
building happy saturday tony how you doing brother hi i am doing good
Let's go. Welcome in everyone.
Let's go. He sounded like he was in the clouds, then. I am doing good. I liked it. Let's go.
Always working. You're definitely in the bath, aren't you? You're definitely in the bath, and that's all of that guy.
I am. I am in the bath. Yeah. Legend.
Legend. Still showing up while you're in the bath, doing anything, working five million and hours are there.
I want a clean space.
That's the one. We'd rather a clean Tony than a dirty one.
So fair play, bro.
But no, nice one, I appreciate you.
Thank you very much.
And without further ado, we have the none other than Richard, aka J. Crypto Rider.
It's been long overdue.
Happy Saturday, my friend.
How are you doing, sir?
Thank you for joining us.
Absolutely.
Thank you for inviting me.
Happy Saturday.
I'm doing amazing.
Um, yeah, just another beautiful day, uh, here on X and in the web through space.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Massive shout out to everyone in the audience as well.
We've got Bella down there.
Bella, we hope you are good.
We've got, um, star dogs in the building as well.
Thank you.
Casey imagination.
Hound four, which could be, um, Gunner or Audi boy, either or all three.
Okay.
Jenny in the building. We've also got Crypto Bitmag as well. Appreciate you guys as well.
But no, thank you. What a great night. So, you know, we're super excited to speak to you because
I know it's been a minute and you're a man that's been, you know, working for quite a long time
in Web 3. So, you know, we're super excited just to have a conversation with you, learn about
like who you are, what you do in the space and, you know, what you're looking to accomplish.
And just kind of your take on everything in general, really. So I don't know if you want to just
start off by giving an introduction for anyone who might not know who you are to whatever degree
you'd like to give that that would be awesome yeah thank you thank you absolutely so yeah my name is
richard uh or you know handle it used to be you know j crypto rider or rider uh but you know only
recently have i fully fully came out and docks
I run business development for lunar digital assets.
I'm the CDBD manager and lunar digital assets is the same venture studio that incubated Polygon originally.
I mean, before they even had a test net, you know, build quick swap, doge chain, you know, and working with a handful of clients like Squig Row from Silent Swap.
and like Matterfly Swiss Fortress.
I've been in the space for her.
Oh God, quite a bit of time before it was even cool.
I kind of got in professionally about 2018 and absolutely fell in love with it.
I had a buddy that kind of just told me, yeah, I think professionally,
I meant freelancing professionally, still on docs kind of in the background.
But yeah.
Anyways, so got, yeah, my buddy told me about crypto and I ended up falling in love with it and knowing that this was the new monetary system and this was the future.
So I, you know, ended up quitting what I was doing for a living and just kind of going full time, trading and then, you know, just really deep dive and found myself in a couple different things.
projects freelancing but yeah anyways i'm also an active member of bit angels which is the vc
network um that uh is founded by michael turpin and he is the same person that kind of
invented the icos before they were even icos he did world coin and in fact was one of the original
investors into aetherium in fact vitalik actually pitched
2-bit Angels Ethereum and asked Michael Turpin to, you know, speak about Bitcoin at his university.
So I'm an active member there and I help streamline a lot of the participants for our various events.
And yeah, so yeah, that's about the scope of the things that I do and involved with.
And I'm just super excited to be here.
I know that we've kind of known each other for, oh, God, I probably want to say about a year now with the community and communities.
And you guys have always just been a positive inspiration.
And love what you guys are doing in the space.
So yeah, super humbled and thankful that you guys invited me.
Yeah, when you've been active in the telegram, you know, dropping little nuggets here and there.
It's, yeah, and you're persistently around, which is, you know, it's great to see.
And it's nice to finally talk to you.
It's nice to finally speak to you.
So you're not up so much then, you know.
Yeah.
But yeah, it sounds like you found the technology like pretty early and you could see the potential in this in this hard money
You know sort of the the best money that we've ever seen you know sea shells to you know carved stones to coins to notes
You know transactional value is is a is a part of what makes us different from from the animals and
Although I've seen some animals make transactions and whatnot.
Normally for sex, but we won't talk about that.
It sounds like somebody has been reading the Bitcoin white paper.
I might have possibly met Satoshi, like just before he died.
Possibly, maybe, who knows.
But he told me about it, and then I kind of forgot about it for years, and then I came back to it and I was like, oh shit.
But like the way that he explained it to me was quite fascinating.
The way he spoke about it was not what I was expecting from a Bitcoin head.
But he, yeah, he could see the future of the technology.
He called a number of things.
One of the things that he called that we haven't seen yet,
so we'll see if this plays out,
is once the institution started coming in with things like ETFs
and tradable products for investment firms,
the bare market that would follow that would be long and painful.
Yeah.
So I think that's maybe yet to yet to be had and also the Bitcoin Wars is another one that he spoke about that we haven't seen yet
There's something called Bitcoin was but this is what he called Bitcoin was
So it's basically have one Bitcoin war and that was that was the
The Sigrid thing. Yeah, that was block wars. Yeah, that was there. That was that was different. I suppose yeah
But as he described, Bitcoin was, it was basically where, you know, companies like BlackRock and these big, you know, massive, massive things, go ahead and take over control of the network or at least attempt to take over control of the network.
And he believes that the decentralized nature and the fact that any old Tom Diccarry with a computer would be able to participate in the network, hopeful that...
they would never be able to do the 51% attack.
He also spoke about forking Bitcoin into,
into a,
like an official government version,
but again,
he believed that the original Bitcoin would persist as the,
as the main Bitcoin chain.
yeah,
a little bit of insight there for you.
Yeah,
I mean,
I've dabbled a little bit inside of,
the Bitcoin white paper and Bitcoin itself. In fact, I've met David Chom. He was actually close friends. He's actually a part of Bit Angels. And David Chom was cited in the Bitcoin white paper five times.
And was one of the mentors for Len Sassman who has a memorial on the Bitcoin blockchain.
Never met Len, but I have met David Chom, in fact, been spaces with him and met him in person.
I think I might have met Lenn Sassman, which is why I think that the person that I think might be Satoche might be Stoci is because I believe the other person that I met through him was Lens Sassman.
um so i think anyone who's close to lynn sassman has a potential of being satoshi i think um so uh yeah
yeah for sure i mean yeah i mean there's different there's definitely um there's a lot of speculation
on who and who it can be and um who knows you know the the actual fact or truth um i do know that um
You were speaking earlier about, you know, running the network.
And I do remember that, you know, Satoshi himself actually delayed releasing, you know, Bitcoin in allowing other miners to come out and start mining Bitcoin for the purpose of trying to keep it to where the network was still decentralized and everything that we've kind of been working towards.
You know, with that decentralization and trying to, you know, as we believe that Bitcoin is the money of enemies and friends and keeping it that way.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, crypto, when I found out about crypto and Bitcoin and, you know,
really starting getting involved and reading about it, not just trading it. It was just,
it was a click in my mind and I know I had a drop and, you know, it was the decision to make whether
to continue making the money that I was making and, you know, I was doing pretty quite well.
I mean, I was a finance insurance manager for an auto group. I was, you know,
making well over sex figures.
But this was something that I could impact and progress and look back at and
You know, say that I had a hand in progressing the world and, you know, making it a better place and, you know, a part of something like the internet era, which is kind of why I, you know, jumped so deep into it and have dedicated my entire life.
And this is now what I fully do full time.
I mean, I, you know, I have a full time job in crypto.
I mean, like I mentioned, I work with various companies.
And most of them, you know, we are quite boutique.
All of them are impact companies now.
You know, I've had, like many people,
I've gone through the freelance phase and, you know,
worked with a bunch of different companies and, you know,
had my rough times.
until I finally found something that was a lot more stable and had a, you know, a lot of people
that were well-rounded through this. So it's definitely been interesting and I don't plan on stopping,
you know, now or ever. And, yeah. How does Bit Angels work? Yeah, so this is, it's a really good question. And
I think I've even mentioned it once or twice inside of the group.
So, and here.
So Bit Angels basically how this works.
It's a, we host side events at almost every major conference.
And then we also host events at smaller conferences as well.
We're a global community network.
And so yeah, those side events, pretty much what happens is projects come.
that are looking to raise money.
So these are a bunch of VCs.
Like I mentioned, Michael Turpin, DNA, which is Brock Pierce,
and like Dan Moorhead, who's like Pantera,
some of the biggest VCs.
And so they apply and if they're accepted into the application, they have the opportunity to join the Pitch competition.
And at the event, they'll, you know, they'll get an opportunity to, you know, four to five minutes to present their project.
And sometimes we have judges at the events. So people, you know, we have a few judges that'll go in and they'll score.
And, you know, quite often, you know, a lot of projects walk out with like, you know, two million dollars raised right then and there, you know, from those networks.
So that's pretty much how it is.
There's no guarantee of money, but the opportunity is that you get to kind of network and meet a lot of top tier VCs and individuals in the space.
And it's a good time.
I personally, what I do is I typically help bring about a lot of the projects who are wanting to come pitch and raise.
And then I work one-on-one with the various chapter leaders because we have a chapter leader in every, you know, in different cities across the world from Bangkok, you know, to England, to Hong Kong from the U.S., from San Francisco to Vegas.
to Texas, to Denver, Canada as well.
I mean, they're everywhere.
Yeah, that's pretty much how it works in a nutshell,
but I work one-on-one with a lot of the chapter leaders
in helping choose which projects get to pitch.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
That must be some vetting process there.
Because obviously I imagine there's a lot of applications and a few, you know, sort of succeed to get to, you know, the live show of Britain's got talent, you know?
Yeah, I mean, there can be quite a few.
I want to say this most recent one in Denver, we had, oh, I don't know, somewhere near 60 different projects that applied.
And like we typically only pick like 10 or 12, you know.
So yeah, there is a vetting process that kind of goes through it.
And yeah, I definitely see in watch and learn a lot about the different projects looking
of what they're doing in the space, you know, reviewing their various white papers,
seeing their technology.
And you know, oftentimes you see a lot of the same things. Sometimes you see new things.
And it's really cool.
It's really interesting to see the different ideas that people come up with.
So...
How do you separate the wheat from the chaff? I mean, are you looking for things that are kind of innovative or are you looking for things that kind of have more of a tried and tested approach?
How do you or do you try and get like a bit of a balance of sort of like new ideas and innovations and sort of, you know, maybe reimagining of old tech, but you know, maybe with some sort of improvements.
Yeah, that's a really good question. I mean, it really depends on the event, right?
Typically the chapter leaders, they have an agenda, they have a narrative of what they want to go with and what they like, you know, what they like to see.
I mean, quite often I am looking for problem solvers, projects that are coming out here and solving problems.
You know, we do look for early stage things as well.
I mean, of course, we do like to find things that are battle tested and that are, you know,
maybe not inventing the wheel, but they're shaping the wheel and making it easier, faster,
lighter, stronger.
And that's always important as well.
You know, I think, I guess if I was going to pick right now, one of the biggest metas that I personally have been really interested in and finding has been the privacy and security meta.
I mean, we talk about the institutions and the governments, you know, wanting to or, you know, adopting blockchain and crypto and Web 3.
There's going to be a level of privacy and security that they're going to require in order to,
except the terms of having to go blockchain where everything is transparent.
I mean, not everything should be transparent, but a majority of the different things that a lot of the governments and these corporations institutions will require something of that sort.
And I'm not talking about mixers like tornado cash.
That's totally different.
But there are certain things that are privacy focused that are particularly going to be interested
and I think are going to really push.
So yeah, that's one of the things that I look for is like new metas.
You know, what metas are they going to be doing?
I mean, are these projects short-term, mid-term or long-term plays?
And I typically just score them at a point of what I believe is going to be a success.
So, yeah.
I mean, does sort of the leadership of a project play a part, you know, a major part in those decisions, in those discussions?
You mean like leadership from the team or like leadership?
Yeah, so leadership's of the team, you know, so if, you know, there may be a good product, but, you know, maybe you don't feel like the team.
I don't know.
You have reservations about maybe particular people.
I do my very best to not judge most people, but I do try to find as much information, whether it's like the GitHub's, whether it's looking at LinkedIn's, looking at X accounts.
kind of figuring out how long these people have been in the space.
And then also oftentimes, you know, people are referred.
You know, if it comes from a referral that is somebody who, you know,
has been in the space a long time and they believe that these projects are going to be, you know,
successful and deserve to be in front of the VCs, you know, that also plays a major role as well.
I mean, it's not just me making these decisions, although I do play a part in helping with a lot of
them, but they're, you know, Bit Angels is a, it's a big network. And oftentimes, you know,
a lot of people, like we work with word of mouth, a lot of the times, and people are like handpicked
and referred over, you know, and, you know,
It's kind of nice, you know, that I can't see everything.
So, I mean, I guess it's good to have these, you know, trusted voices that, you know, will feel through the BS, you know.
So we know a few people like that in our little corner of the internet.
Yeah, I like to think that I've been through enough BS.
In time, I've seen a lot of BS.
I've been in the space long enough that I can kind of,
I feel like I can kind of see the BS read between some of the lines.
I think I can identify, you know,
what is actually, you know, productive in progression
and rather than something that's a little more extractive,
and not really going to produce, you know, actual results.
You know, I think from a lot of it does take experience, you know.
I mean, I've been rug pulled so many times.
It doesn't mean that I can see them all, but for the most part, I can kind of identify or at least.
Yeah, you get the red flags, the vibes, the, you know, I've seen this somewhere before, you know.
Exactly.
But that comes with experience.
I mean, there's a lot of people that have been burned in the space, including myself.
I feel stupid.
I should have succumbed to something so stupid.
But yeah, just a lapse of concentration and lots of money lost, basically.
But yeah, man, it sounds like it's pretty tough to, you know, to
but i also think it's also really rewarding because you like you say you get to be at the forefront
of uh of these new things and these new ideas and and and how people are utilizing
you know emerging technologies um what's your what's your thoughts on ai in regards to cryptocurrency
and where they overlap where do you see uh the vc's being you know peaking interest in in
i in what areas do you think man a i is such a massive massive meta right now
I mean, it's huge.
I don't think AI is going to go away.
I think this is the beginning for AI personally.
I think a lot of VC's notices.
AI is not going anywhere.
Yeah.
I mean, I think in a lot of VCs see this and notice this.
I mean, in fact, I mean, and just for example, look at Polygon, right?
I mean, it's an entire blockchain ecosystem.
They have allocated to specific to various grant allocators.
So third party.
platforms like AI16Z, you know, CrossMint, you know, AngelHack as well, and a few others that are just specifically focused on AI agents.
I mean, I see so many AI agent ideas, you know, it can get overwhelming sometimes.
And I think it's great.
You know, AI is awesome.
It's going to definitely help automate things.
I use AI daily.
You know, whether it's grok, whether it's chat GPT, whether it's in my meeting notes with my firefly.
I mean, I think I was in a meeting the other day and we were kind of joking because we had more AI, you know, note takers in the call than we had actual human beings, which was kind of funny.
You know, we were just kind of joking about it.
But, you know, regardless, I mean, yeah, AI is, you know, it's definitely a hot topic.
There are a lot of VCs that are looking to get into AI.
And like I mentioned, I mean, there's an entire grant structure for AIs, you know, on Polygon.
Yeah, AI is not going anywhere.
I think we've kind of opened Pandora's box a little bit.
You know, I am sort of on the side of I do think that AI could be potentially dangerous.
I think it's also going to change how economies work.
I think AI is going to automate a lot of stuff.
And I think governments are going to have to find ways in order to generate revenue from this new AI revolution
in order to sustain losses in other areas of the economy.
AI is on an exponential curve, in my opinion, and seeing what people are out with heart of doing with AI with these deep thinking AIs that are like solving, you know, centuries long mathematical problems is, you know, it's quite,
impressive. I think the advances we're going to see in science and technology from this technology is immense because, you know, an AI doesn't have the, um, the restrictions that human brain does. Um, so I'm so excited. Um,
for what AI can do in those areas of like science and technologies and material sciences and stuff.
There's some AIs that have come up with some pretty cool theoretical materials,
and some of those have worked out and can be used for multiple different purposes.
Yeah, I mean, AI is definitely going to change the world.
It already has been.
And, you know, to be honest, I mean, I'm not an AI expert.
per se. I mean, I do utilize AI every single day.
And I do look at a lot of projects who are building an AI.
And oftentimes I've got to kind of ask somebody else what they think.
Just because there's such a flood of AI right now,
it's kind of hard to sometimes filter through all the different stuff,
you know, all the different types of AI agents that are being kind of deployed.
Which is kind of interesting.
I mean, you even got blockchains that are doing AI.
I mean, you've got sentient.
You've got another one like GPG protocol who are coming out with, with, you know, AI style of blockchains and ecosystems, which kind of can be a little scary sometimes.
Yeah.
You know, if, you know, at a certain, if it's not done correctly or programmed, you know, I guess, I don't know, we can go into like Rokos Basilicus. I don't know if you guys know what that is, but that's kind of like the fear of.
or the actual belief that, you know, AI one day will become like a super god and will start actually targeting people and punishing them, you know, if they had been, you know, mean to the AI or talk bad about AI.
And, like, you know, they just do it to, like, you know, keep out punishment.
It's kind of like that movie, I don't remember if you remember, but it's, oh, God, Demolition Man, you know?
Like, it just, like, the AI, the camera sees you doing something, and it just tells you, like, you've been fine for swearing, you know, but.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's definitely a lot that, I mean, we've heard a lot from even Elon Musk's warning people about AI and what the potentials can be.
Sure.
There's a lot.
There's a lot.
Blockchain facilitates some of this thing as well, because if these AIs have the ability to transact,
um...
you know to achieve certain goals i mean that's that's kind of scary in itself and that's how we
end up with that you know dystopian thing you're talking about with the you know the all overbearing
i control um yeah i just don't get enslaved by the thing that we created that's that's what i
hope for yeah i mean we're we're human beings i think we're still resilient i mean regardless um
You know, I mean, there's definitely a lot.
I mean, we've all seen Terminator, right?
Skynet.
You know, but still, I mean, who knows?
You know, there's even the thought that, you know, AI will give us what we want.
You know, it wants to give us a sky net because it wants us to overcome.
And, you know, people want that kind of, you know, part of.
His who knows you know like it can be just so crazy to think of all these different things that
like him saying now yeah
Life imitating art.
And I was also talking about something quite deep the other day where I was saying that
if you you can kind of think something into existence, where if you can foresee something, that now becomes a potential reality.
It does no guarantees it will happen.
But you can manifest ideas.
Yeah.
I believe that manifested ideas has the potential to allow that to happen because you've created that potential future by thinking it into existence.
Yeah, it's getting quite deep.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, so I'm sure, I'm sure Rev, if you can, will probably want to jump in and say a few bits.
I think he's probably dealing with the chaos in his household.
Yeah.
We'll be jumping on a cold before the space.
Yeah, that's always a case.
Always the case.
I'm just loving this conversation about AI and like his capabilities.
And it is interesting because it's one of those things where we'll never really know how it's already been utilized.
For example, you know...
It's been used for years already to build algorithms, like on TikTok, for example, you know, all of that's AI and a super brain, if you will.
And I'm glad that you kind of brought that up because that is really interesting because there are a lot of people in the field that are trying to kind of
build a super brain that they can kind of control because once you've got a self-thinking engine,
if you will, it can kind of do its own thing. But to try and harness that must be quite a task.
But, you know, although none of us are AI specialists, it is interesting to see how it is going to be
integrated into the digital world, but, you know, more so the blockchain space as well.
I mean, some would even argue that right now AI has like completely taken over the trading market, like the day-to-day trading.
I mean, it's kind of almost ruined, you know, day traders or meme coins even.
Like, it's been kind of rough.
If any of you kind of, you know, seen some of this, you've got all these AI agents that are doing trades, you know, sniper bots and stuff like that.
And some of them are AI sniper bots that just do it for you, you know.
And I mean, it can just, it'll ruin a token even and a launch.
And then those who aren't utilizing these tools, these AI agent tools, are just getting destroyed and demolished.
You know, because they can't get in either early enough.
or they're just getting out traded because of the AI agent and its algorithm.
And all the other people who are utilizing these tools, I mean, it's just killing.
It's just kill. I mean, it's, it's rough sometimes, I think, which is kind of why I've gone away from, like, doing some of these, like, day-to-day trades.
And even, like, for the most part, some mean coins, not all, but a lot of them.
Because you got to be careful just watching some of the batches and some of these sniper bots coming out.
And if you don't have the right jump on it, you're just going to get wrecked.
So...
Yeah, I mean, we've seen like things that pump fun and stuff like that that really highlighted that issue of these of these bots that are.
Yeah, like you say, sniping and just leaving absolute wreckage and you're a disadvantage.
You're trying to you're trying to play the game and it's rigged against you.
You know, it's impossible.
Exactly.
But just to kind of pull it back to you and your journey a little bit, because, you know,
I was just listening to you earlier talking about how you kind of, you know, do your research
and that, you know, you've been in the space long enough to kind of recognize what,
what's good and what isn't and kind of like what's, you know, trustworthy or worthy of, you know,
deeper research and that kind of thing.
And that's kind of like why we kind of try and do this space like this with an hour to kind of
help people utilize it as educational material to give people the chance to really break down what they're building,
but also help the people who are building to kind of showcase it in a way where people can be inspired to research further
and dive into, like you, for example, if you talk about what you're doing Web 3, people can check it out.
If you have any questions, they can come up and speak to about it.
And I think you'll agree on, you know, it's not the tech that's failing people.
It's the people misusing the tech.
So it is kind of important to kind of see who's working on things behind the scenes and what it is that they're doing, what the track record is, what they're trying to accomplish.
You know, so we kind of really appreciate you taking the time out of your night, for example, to come and talk to us and help us learn more about you and help other people learn about the amazing things that you're doing because it is a tough industry to working.
Like you said earlier, you know, people get stung all the time and it isn't always necessarily through maliciousness.
Sometimes, you know, people just cease to keep working.
Sometimes things just don't work, you know, and sometimes people build ecosystems that kind of aren't sustainable.
So there's a lot of things at play and it's really difficult.
So, you know, I respect the fact that you've been in the industry so long and that, you know, you're now fully doxed and, you know, you're really making a way for yourself and it's really impressive.
Yeah, thank you.
And, you know, I try to give back wherever I can.
I mean, for the most part.
you know working for like lDA was something that you know took me a long time to do i think it took me
like five or six applications and like uh quite a bit of time took me over a year to to really get in
and um you know i even got offered like different positions before that with with different
ecosystems and blockchains which i won't mention any names but you know what's nice about it is
the actual versatility that it offers me
And now I'm able to give back where I can.
So I mean, I tend to try to offer, you know, a lot of the things that I have and am involved with with almost everybody because I want to continue seeing the space grow.
And I have met so many great people here.
And I just want to be able to share that.
So, I mean, you know, with Bit Angels, for example, I often, you know, offer, you know, those opportunities to various projects and people and
You know, even like if somebody is going to be participating and pitching at the competition,
I like to make sure that they're prepared and then they know, you know, how to pitch and, you know, to coach them properly.
It's not necessarily about myself.
It's about seeing people push forward and growing and succeeding.
You know, even with like the Polygon grant system as well, you know, I didn't mention, but, you know, I do,
I have been involved in some of the.
the grant process as far as reviewing applications, early stage ones.
And quite often, you know, projects will come to me.
Or they'll just, they'll, they'll have an issue where they've never even done a grant.
And that in itself is a challenge.
You know, I don't know if anybody here has ever done a grant.
Not even just Web 3, but just in general, grants have their own formulas or their own structures and formats
and the process on how to actually
Write one out properly so that those who are so-called are quote unquote subject matter experts or reviewers that work full-time in the grant process are looking for, right?
And then at the same time, you've got to understand what Polygon is kind of looking for or who the grant allocator is looking for.
And, you know, like I offer that projects who want to do that to let me know and I'll be more than happy to share with them any tips and recommendations.
You know, I'm never going to promise anybody anything, but, you know, I tend to try to give back to the community in any way, shape, or form.
And it's not even about the monetization, you know, it's sometimes it's, you know, I always get back in some other way.
And there's a lot of things, you know. I mean, even our show, the aggregated. I don't know if I've invited anybody here onto the show, but, you know, I'd love to get somebody, you know, you guys sharing this space with me. I'd love to get you onto our show. I mean, it's a pretty ex-famous show. It's fairly large. We've, you know, got quite a few people who are quite interesting on the show, some really big names.
Yeah.
And I'd like, you know, I'd feel, you know, love to share that space.
You know, I actually, I just took over a show not too long ago for Doge Chain, and it's called Memes and Dreams.
And I'd love to share that with you guys as well.
But, yeah, I mean, I've always, you know, met a lot of great people here in the space, and they've helped me, you know, grow into the position and get to where I am today.
So, yeah.
Because just like anybody else, I mean, or a lot of us, you know, I came from the trenches, you know.
I've been in there and, you know, kind of moved around from Memecoin to NFT projects and all sorts of different things and growing and building in various ways.
And so...
All that has kind of built and helped me grow into a professional point to where now I'm like fully doxed.
Like my name is literally put on a on our company website and you know, I'm there at events in person, shaking hands and meeting people.
And I have no problems with that.
Are you happy with your mugshot on the website though?
Do the mustache?
Because they always have a tendency to do the one where you're pulling like a slightly silly face.
No, no, no, I got lucky.
So I actually took that myself.
Had a, I have a photographer near me.
So I took it myself and I got to choose that one myself.
Nice, nice.
But yeah, no, I works at this firm as a car dealership as Aston Martin.
and my face had to go on the website.
Yeah, and they picked the worst one that they possibly.
It was still, it was still nice.
It was still, like, tasteful and stuff.
But there were two other photographs that were just way better.
And they were like, no, no, we go there's one.
I said, okay, whatever, you're the boss.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, that's kind of what happened with me.
I mean, I wasn't, like, full forward wanting to, you know, personally docs myself, you know, and,
You know, the CEO of the company, you know, of LDA pretty much said, he was like, hey, I think you would, depending on where you want to go and get, you know, if you, you know, you, you, you know, you docked yourself a little bit more. You present yourself a little bit differently. You know, we can we can kind of, you know, take this to the next level. Because I think, you know, Web 3, one of the things that a lot of us tend to kind of.
forget or even remember or just are comfortable with is just being, you know,
Web 3 that's still that rebel mindset where we're freelancing.
You know, there, we forget about there, there is a professional, like a super professional business.
side of it, you know, where you still have the, those older gentlemen who are wearing suits day to day and they're shaking hands and meeting, not just, you know, on calls.
And, you know, there's still these bigger companies that are being built and still traditional just in Web 3.
Right.
So, yeah, I mean, it's definitely quite interesting.
And that's kind of how now I'm at with even events.
I mean, I don't think you won't catch me without having a suit on anymore, which is kind of crazy.
So not too crazy just because in the past I used to, you know, wear lots of suits when I was working at, you know,
i was a finance insurance manager um but yeah just to think web 3 and web 3 in suit it's just
kind of funny uh just the other day somebody was laughing when i introduced myself and they're like
dude i can't i couldn't tell that you would be anything like that by your pfp and i just kind of
started laughing because you know i look at my pfp
And it's like, I guess I see what you're saying, but, you know, there's a lot of people out there that are like Van Neck and, you know, some of these other guys that are rocking PFPs and they're completely professional. I mean, even, yeah, so.
Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. There is that complete professional side to it. And that's kind of a side that, you know, we really appreciate. We are always trying to kind of showcase the,
you know the seriousness of the space because of the level of um
possibility that the tech brings if utilized correctly.
So, you know, when we come across ecosystems where, you know,
the founders are fully docks, they've got a track record,
it's attacked to a real world business,
it's providing utility or solving problems,
it's a real game changer when you can integrate all those things
into the, you know, the Web 2 world, but also the Web 3 world as well.
So, you know, we always appreciate when we come across
ecosystems like that that are really
showing that the value that the space can have.
Not that there's anything, you know, any less value in different sectors,
but there's a different segment to each part of the space that adds a different value
to the world if it's utilized and upheld in a way that kind of, you know,
positively impacts the space in the world, really.
Yeah, I mean, totally.
I mean, like I said, like through my journey, it's just been kind of funny.
You know, going through...
And now, you know, seeing the other side of things, it's like, oh, God, I got to remember there is this level of professionalism.
I mean, this is serious. It's not, you know, just because we're out here with these, like, fun little pictures doesn't mean that we aren't or can't be a, and have a standard of professionalism.
and class as well.
And I think a lot of people, you know, just to kind of go in that opposite direction, we
get some of that stigma.
And I think we've always been kind of like that underdog crypto stigma, you know,
crypto boys or crypto people, you know, traders.
you know, having some sort of like crazy flaunting or, you know, talking as if we have so much but have so little or, you know, just the different stigmas that come across the actual, the space about crypto and itself.
But, you know, we've always been that underdog.
And we're just now emerging as like this level of seriousness and people are taking us serious now.
I mean, we've got a Bitcoin strategic.
We've got all these other alt coins that are a part of the reserve, you know, becoming a part of the reserve as well.
You know, the ETF, you know, the governments themselves, you know, even the president of the United States stating that, you know, they're going to make the United States a crypto hub, right?
I mean, you've got Malay down, you know, in South America, Argentina, who's, you know, changed his entire country and government.
By utilizing Bitcoin and it's been such a positive feed for them and just seeing like how much this how serious it is.
But you know, people have like yet to really, really take it extremely serious other than these JPEGs on the blockchain and a bunch of us, you know,
just being ourselves because that's that's kind of like the space that we grew up or grew into and just kind of have been a part of uh so it's yeah it's it's quite interesting are there any events that are coming up in the not so distant future that you're looking at attending yeah i'll be at token 2049 Dubai uh
So, yeah, that'll be the most recent, the nearest one.
I opted out.
So right now they have that's going on is going to be the DC blockchain event, but I won't be there.
And then they've got, you know, Paris as well, Paris blockchain week.
And I decided not to attend this year.
But I'll be going to Dubai token 2049.
And then after that will be Bitcoin.
Bitcoin.
uh maybe toronto um but those are the most the most the most recent ones that i will be attending
for sure and in fact i'm coordinating for dubai token 2049 right now um with various people um so
That's really exciting actually.
And is there any attribute from events that you've attended
where you've kind of connected with people
that you've communicated with a long period of time?
Like for example, you know, most of the core team for the COC
have kind of met each other.
We've got one friend from the Netherlands who came over.
We live in different parts of the UK.
There's a few of us from Wales as well.
And there's an upcoming meetup for the CheerNet blockchain with Gene Hoffman on the 17th of April in London.
And I think four or five of us are going to be meeting up to attend that.
So we're really looking forward to that.
Yeah, I mean, I've met so many different people at events.
I mean, funny, funny one was, you know, one of the very first people, the very first event that I ever went to, you know, I see one of my buddies who, funny enough, you know, every time that I...
you know, in looking at a project of doing something with,
somehow he's like a part of.
And like, it was like I was one of the first people that I helped, you know,
make a first deal with on certain things.
So that's kind of interesting.
And he works for Block, which is like a really major thing.
But yeah, I mean, as far as like, you know, these events,
I, what's funny is that, you know,
I have to actually set my schedule up properly because of the amount of meetings and the various clients and individuals that we are, you know, attending and meeting with at these events.
And then also with like bidding angels coordinating and the amount of network is just massive that we're gaining, you know.
I mean, it's quite incredible.
And you meet some of the coolest people at these events.
And in fact, you know, the company, Lunar Digital Assets where we're all over the world.
You know, we've got our president is in Dubai.
You know, we've got people in the UK.
We've got, you know, our creative directors in Thailand, in fact.
So, yeah, I mean, I definitely get to meet a lot of people.
And typically, you know, we're always in contact.
I meet so many great people in the space, especially at some of the Bit Angels event.
Just because it draws a little bit of a different crowd versus some of the, you know, the different events that we tend to go to.
But it's always incredible.
And there's always something that, you know, we gain and,
Yeah, I mean, it's, I think I come back from every single event with like over 200 contacts.
And it takes me like a week just to even say hello to everybody.
How are you doing? Welcome back, you know.
It's just, and you know, you've got to kind of filter through that whole thing.
And sometimes it's funny.
You're like, I don't remember what we were talking about, but let's figure it out.
There was something here and that's why we connected.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's awesome. And it's great when you can you can do that because it kind of is, it feels like a real game changer when you get the privilege of meeting people and really connecting in a different way and helping showcase the level of seriousness that you have for the for the industry that we're in. You know, we really are. And, you know, all of us are trying to really represent the space right.
because we want to see it succeed
and the only way to do that is to
help play our part in making that possible
and I think networking is such a fundamental part of
why this space is so successful just due to the nature of, you know,
people trying to really stand by and support the things that they're believe in
because there's so much room in this space for everyone.
And there's so many different niches that people can tailor to.
It is amazing when these events happen and people come together from all walks of life
and all different corners of the world.
It's pretty remarkable, really.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, I've...
I mean, I've met, you know, I've met clients, you know, at these different events.
And, you know, it took a while, but, you know, we finally got the deals done.
I mean, you meet some incredible people from all over the world that are just, like, they're just gigamines, you know.
And like, you would never know, you know, sometimes.
So, yeah, it's a very humbling.
I think it's one of the greatest things in.
You know, just looking in the past of what I was previously doing, you know, sitting in an office, you know, 13 hours a day in the same town, you know.
And now it's like I've grown to be traveling all over the world all the time.
And it's not even, you know, not even just like even for events.
For the most part, yes.
But, you know, sometimes I'm just traveling because I can because I work from home.
And I'm close to an event.
And when that event happens, you know, all I got to do is either hop on a train or hop on a plane and like it's a short ride and I'm there, you know.
Yeah, that is pretty awesome.
And earlier you was mentioning that you do these spaces.
You know, we'd love to come along.
That would be an absolute honor to participate in that.
But just to touch on that, how are you finding that experience for hosting these spaces?
And, you know, when you're connecting with these guests,
is there any that you've kind of met at these events later down the line
or prior to featuring them on your show?
Yeah, I mean, so...
Like, so we've got a couple of different shows, right?
So I'm a co-producer of the aggregated, which is, you know, the ex-famous show that I was talking about.
You know, it does major numbers.
It gets incredible guests.
And quite often, you know, during, you know, these events, I meet a lot of these people.
And if we do like an event catch up or, you know, because those, you know, particular projects are involved in a certain category and topic that we're talking about, whether it's DPN RWA's.
In fact, RWA's, for example.
You know, there was like four or five projects that we met at Eat, Denver that we brought onto the show.
I mean, that's just one show that we do.
I mean, another show that I do as well.
And that's done on Fridays at like 8 a.m. PDT.
And then I help host the Doge Chain Space, which is Memes and Dreams.
And I met a few people from different, yeah, from different events and stuff like that who are meme coin degens that want to join.
And they've got some pretty cool thing that they built for meme coins.
And they joined the show as well.
You know, we also have a hand in the Bit Angel space, which we host every single Thursday.
I forget what time.
I don't know, like 1 p.m. PDT or something or two, something like that.
And a lot of the times on the Bit Angel spaces, we do have almost...
you know, a brand new person, brand new project because, you know, either A, they're going to be showcasing at the event or B, they showcase at the event and, you know, they've, they've now since they've pitched, they're part of our, you know, the Bit Angels family and network and,
are, you know, joining our spaces and, you know, being a part of our community.
And, you know, they're perhaps a part of a topic that we have that day.
So, but yeah, we do three different shows for the most part that are that are every single week.
And that's the aggregated, that's memes and dreams, and then the Bit Angels show as well.
And then we got a hand in a couple other stuff as well.
in the background, even though we don't, we don't tell everybody.
Yeah, no, that's awesome.
You know, and great work on, you know, being a part of so many amazing things in Web3,
because, you know, it is really difficult to...
to kind of build your life around but also to connect with people with I mean we talk about
it's more spaces about the time zones because you know we're all from all parts of the world
and it can be difficult because it's always daytime for someone so there's there's always a lot going on
it is literally 24-7 and you know I've never known an industry quite like it so there's never a dull moment
I love it. I love that. That's like my favorite part about this. 24-7, you know, unlike the stock market, stock market has a time. Crypto, the trades, we don't got a time. It waits for no one. It keeps going, spinning 24-7. You know, I sometimes have to be careful because...
I am so excited or thrilled about meeting or hopping on a call with somebody.
And oftentimes I will be on calls at 3 a.m.
And I've got to be awake at 8 a.m. for meetings and more calls as well.
But oftentimes what's crazy, it's like, you know, if you want to get shit done, sometimes
you have to.
Not everybody's life revolves around.
You know, my time zone
Or oftentimes, you know, you're in another time zone and, you know, you still got to keep working, you know, even though you're having fun at an event or, you know, you got to keep working so that the time doesn't stand still.
And, you know, the phone doesn't quit ringing, you know, the notifications for X keep coming in and the telegram keeps pinging.
So, yeah.
And, you know, you got to balance all the different clients and the different things that, you know, the teams and everybody needs and, you know, what the bosses need as well, you know.
So it's important to switch off though sometimes. I mean, do you get an opportunity to just switch off and do your thing?
I would have to say that I, for the most part.
Have not. I've been going, going, going, going, going.
I mean, I do switch off, like, sometimes on the weekends.
Oftentimes, like, not really, to be honest.
But I still think that because I still feel that it's young in the space, I've got a lot to do and a lot to prove and a lot to complete and make happen and build.
There's no time for just turning off.
I mean, I think, but maybe this is different for everybody unlike myself.
But for the most part, I'm pretty comfortable being a hermit inside of my room in my house.
and not having to socialize with people.
And web 3 and what I'm doing now gives me a social light.
I don't know, that's probably extremely unhealthy.
Yeah, I can't see what you mean.
You can use that leisure time to be kind of stealthily working whilst you're networking at an event sort of thing.
Yeah, I mean, and I count.
It doesn't really feel like work.
So, you know, we'll put that down as a social where a social rather than work.
Exactly.
Even though you're still working, I mean, it's like you're still technically working.
And sometimes you've got to remind yourself even in that social, but it's nice.
Yeah, I think the thing that Rev was touching on earlier was where we've met people and built relationships with people on the internet for long periods of time without ever meeting them.
And then finally getting the opportunity to meet these people.
I'd done it before with my Xbox buddies.
I had a whole group of friends down the South West.
It was like a 250 mile drive, so a fair distance from my house.
And yeah, went down there to go party with him and his friends that I'd also met through, you know, through Xbox.
And it was a surreal kind of experience where, you know, I got to meet someone in the flesh.
that I know really well, someone I've spoken to almost every day for like the last four years, for example.
And it's like we've never been apart. It's like we've always been around each other.
It's quite a strange sensation. I think, Mickey, you'd probably agree with that, where it just, it, it kind of feels like you've known each other forever, even though you've literally just met.
If you know what I mean, have you ever experienced that?
Okay, yeah.
Like that bit of awesome where you've known someone for ages and you know, you're good friends, but purely virtually.
You know, you might not even necessarily have seen each other than maybe photographs.
You know, no face times and stuff.
I like to make the joke that all my friends are bots, which is like terrible way to look at it and say it.
But I mean, it's so true.
I mean, we've been, I've had, I've had countless amount of people that I've just, you know, for years I've, you know, spoke with on spaces, hung out with in discords, you know, traded meme coins, traded alpha.
You know, worked with us alongside, you know, been on multiple calls and meetings and stuff like that.
And.
Yeah, I mean, and there's still plenty that I do that with.
I mean, in fact, you guys, I mean, I think we've known each other for, we've definitely been in the space, known each other for quite a bit of time.
And I don't think we've met in person quite yet.
I'm, I'm, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, you know, or, you know, or maybe something else, you know,
you know, Vegas or Hong Kong, maybe even, you know,
London Blockchain Week, which I kind of plan to go to.
So, I mean, there's a lot of events out there.
And then, you know, I think the funnier part is when you are, you're meeting people in person at these events and you don't know who they are, right?
You don't know their face.
And then you meet them at an event, right?
And they say who they are.
And then, like, you kind of, like, had this double take, like, oh, my God, like, we know each other.
Like, we have literally no.
We, that is, like, one of my good friends in the space, and, like, we didn't even realize it or even know.
It's kind of hilarious sometimes.
Yeah, exactly.
You're still in date to each other, and you had no idea, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Exactly.
I had a couple of moments like that, a few different events where I'd gotten to meet someone
and then be like, hey, hold a minute, I know you from somewhere.
And that was quite cool.
There was one event actually which was, it would all stick in my mind.
He's in Portugal and they were doing a music and art and sort of fashion-based kind of event.
And I got invited by the people that were putting on the production of the music stage,
one of which was my, actually two of the DJs, my friends, Tommy, Danvers and Sarah Main,
and she invited me to come out and go party.
So I was like, yeah, go ahead.
But anyway, one of the music artists that token tracks have brought with him was a guy that I'd known for quite a long time.
He used to come in, when I used to do a lot of lives on TikTok, he used to come into my lives and he would rap for me and my friends.
He was very talented, lyrically gifted, just, and a top top lad as well, like real decent dude as well.
And I said to him once when he, when he came through, and I said, oh, you know, you should speak to her contract because, you know, they can help you to monetise this, this, you know, this thing you're doing.
Yeah.
because it is difficult for independent artists out there to get heard and to be seen.
It is very, very difficult.
And yeah, so he did. I didn't know this, but he reached out to token tracks and then the next time I see him, he's, you know, flown across Europe to this event that I also happen to be at.
And the only reason that he's there is because I connected him with those guys and then he ended up utilising it and creating, you know, his own success to the point where he was invited to come out to Portugal and to come perform in front of people. So, um...
Yeah, I love I love live events. I want to do more of them, but London's dead dude that there's nothing going on in London
I mean there's a few events sort of here and there, but there's no like I don't know it just seems like everywhere else it all happens like Paris and and Madrid and and Vegas and all this sort of stuff
It don't happen in London. I know we got in London there is
Oh god, what's it called? There's London blockchain week and then Zeebu live right like
Oh, yeah, the Zibu guy. Yeah, I love him. He's cool.
Yeah, and that's in, I want to say October, which I really want to go to it.
I won't get to Go to Zibu Live, but I might be able to get to London Blockchain Week just because right at the same time, during Zeebu Live, they have L.A. Tech Week.
where they shut down the city of Santa Monica, which is crazy.
But I've been dying to go to London, and I just, I haven't yet.
And I've been trying to find a reason to go.
You need a good enough excuse.
That's what it is.
You need a good enough excuse to come down here.
Because for market research, you know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think the hard part is it's just that like,
I, you know, I'm in the U.S.
So, like, for me, travel easy is, like, Mexico, you know, like, I'm a big fan of Mexico.
And, like, Europe is great.
I mean, I've been a, I've been in Europe.
I mean, I've been to France.
I've been to Denmark.
I've been to Sweden.
I've been around there.
But still trying to get to the U.K.,
Um, and I just, I just probably need to find one of these months and just pull the trigger and go.
You know, I think it's, I think it's because there are no outstanding events in London.
Um, you know, the reason you never come here is because you never had a reason to that, because that you never had the phomo enough to be like, I have to be there for this.
Um, so yeah, I don't know, man.
London is, London is dowey for, for live events. Um, and it's, it's kind of annoying.
that it is so yeah we may we may do a seriously event we may well do a
seracy event you know and and sloths his base in the UK he'll come you know
I'm sure we can get Zee involved we can get all sorts of people involved it'd be great
gets it gets it gets get uh get zahl over here and you know get him to put on a
music stage and stuff they'd be brilliant they're great
Proper little CIC event, everyone gets to meet each other and that would be great.
But that's something for the future.
That's not something right now.
But we may seek your help in planning such events, you know,
knowing your track record of not just attending them, but yeah, having a role in creating the events,
if I'm right and assuming that.
I have so it's actually funny funny you bring that up.
So yeah, I mean, I have some experience with the offense.
Most of it has been coordinating, you know, helping with either with some of the getting the places, some of the catering, some of the sponsors and stuff like that.
I've helped with some of that for sure.
I mean, in fact, I've got somebody who asked me the other day about helping with a brand new event in the Balkans, which I really, really want to go to. It's actually called Crypto Balkans.
Um, 2025.
Unfortunately, it's like literally right after, um, the Bitcoin light coin summit in Las Vegas.
And like I, it would be so difficult.
It's such a challenge to actually be able to, uh, go to there because I'd have to fly from
Las Vegas.
to, you know, the Balkans or Albania, basically.
But yeah, I mean, I've, you know, and what's crazy is, you know, he does want, he wants my help in building the, and bringing on some people and stuff like that, which I've connected him to a couple of different people, which hopefully works.
But like the president of like Lieberland and like the prime minister of Albania, you know, are going to be there.
And it's like, man, I really want to go.
But, yeah, but yeah, I've got a little bit of little experience, not too much.
um with uh with some of these events i can't imagine you can get a direct flight from la to
albania right i i don't know man like you'd be surprised i think uh but i doubt it yeah i doubt it
i mean Madrid apparently is a decent stopover um that that could be that could be a a nice
stopover for you um
I'm already deciding that right after Bitcoin, I'm probably just going to go back down to Mexico.
Just because it's just going to be too much of a hassle.
I mean, some of the events are just such a drain.
And you've got to keep the balance, I think, is the hard part.
So many of these events that we go to.
There's a lot that goes on every single day.
You go there for a week and it's like, you know, a 13, 16 hour day.
You get like four hours of sleep maybe.
You know, and then you've got to do it all over again.
And then, you know, you got to do that for six days a week.
And then you've got all these people you got to catch up with.
And if you don't catch up with it, you know, you kind of miss some opportunities there.
So it's kind of hard with the balance.
You know, you got to, I think one of the things that people with these events, you know,
there's so many, but you got to make sure the business still runs, you know, and that's
kind of the hard part to really balance and keep doing.
So that's probably, probably won't be going this year.
Even though I'll be helping in the background, I'll probably end up just going to Mexico
to just focus and work and then catch up on everything from the Bitcoin Lightcoin Summit.
Just because they're typically, those Bitcoin events are just absolutely massive.
In fact, I, you know, funny enough, not that it's anything crazy or big, but, you know, I got an email the other day asking if I wanted to be an affiliate for, you know, the Bitcoin, Las Vegas and Hong Kong event.
And I'm like, yeah, of course.
So, which is kind of nice.
And I only did it because I want to get like Bitcoin magazine, those guys onto like some spaces and, you know, make that network connection.
So, you know, it's not even, it's not even about, you know, being a part of their affiliate program.
It's it's about being able to have that connection and network and then bring them on to a show, you know.
Yeah.
Yeah, that would be pretty amazing if you could pull that off,
which I've got no doubt that you could.
But it is, it is, you know, just looking at it from like a journey perspective
of all the things that you've accomplished, all the places you travel to, the people that you've met.
It is awesome that you can kind of really build yourself out in this manner.
As like, you know, sort of an entrepreneur, but also, you know, building out you and your brand and, you know,
and helping...
work with the things that you see the value in that could, you know,
really make a change in the industry and in the world.
It's pretty awesome that...
people have a chance to do this in this way and it's great that I know you were saying earlier about
you know being a bit of a hermit is a bit unhealthy and I kind of agree and disagree I kind of agree
if you know on you know you've got to get out on touch grass if you will and you know do the things
you need to do but also you know we're all different and sometimes that's the kind of environment
that you thrive in that you would feel you know
you know, the best for you and your purpose, because, you know, we believe that we all have a purpose to
accomplish things and be on a certain journey to do certain things. So, you know, when you find a place
that sees value in you and you see value in it, it kind of does really bring the best out of you
and helps you persevere through things you never thought you could ever accomplish.
Yeah, I mean, it's very true.
And, you know, at the same time, you know, I get to see and do so much and I learn that, like, there's so much more, you know, to kind of get involved with.
In fact, you know, I have a, I'm having a hand in helping out build the, you know, a new Bit Angels chapter.
And in, in Washington, D.C., you know, that's super cool.
It's super humbling, you know, to be a part of that.
And then also at the same time, you know, as we kind of keep progressing, I get to meet groups like DARA and even like GBA as well, right?
Like I don't, you know, I'm not sure what if you guys are familiar with who they are, but you know, GBA is like the government blockchain association.
But, you know, DARA is like digital asset regulation association.
which is something like, which is exactly the same thing that it's in like an SR,
SRA that, you know, helped or SRO that helped create like NASDAQ,
which is like the self-regulation organization.
So it's really neat, you know, as like kind of the journey kind of continues,
you know, and, you know, my goal for continuing the progress of these things that I get to
see my hands.
Right.
Kind of like almost touching, you know, these really higher level movements.
And who knows, you know, these things could, you know, be what's going to change and
break through and help provide a lot of clarification and, you know, a lot of self-regulation
to the crypto blockchain Web3 space.
you know, and that you can kind of, you know, maybe maybe one day look back and say, you know, I was a part of that and help that.
And at the same time, you got to remember to be humble, right?
Like, for myself, just because there's still so much to do, even though I've done, you know, quite a bit.
But now there's even more to do and to get done, you know.
Yeah.
Because I know you were asking originally, like, what my vision is and what my goals are in the space. And, you know, it is to help progress. It is to make a change. It is to impact. It is to, you know, give back to, you know, the community to help build a foundation for, you know, generations on in. And, you know,
You've got a, that's kind of why I, sometimes I, you know, work so much.
And if I'm at home, I can be a hermit and not worry and continue going.
Or just, you know, even traveling around, you know, I don't, either way, it's, I know that I'm pushing it forward and,
It's things like that that kind of keeps me even hungrier when I enter these newer spaces.
And I see the potential and the possibilities of having some sort of impact, whether it's through myself, whether it's by being a part of a conversation, a discussion, whether it's just sharing or, you know, helping somebody else, you know, push the narrative forward, you know.
Yeah, I mean, I kind of feel like you've got a certain amount of influence, you know, because of where you're positioned in this industry.
Because you can really, you've really got the opportunity to shine the light on, you know, the really cool shit.
And the novel and the innovative ideas, and I think it's great that you're in that position.
I think you're definitely the right dude for the job.
I think you found yourself in a good little niche.
And it sounds like you enjoy it.
It sounds like you genuinely enjoy what you're doing here.
Yeah, I mean, I love it.
I wouldn't trade it for the world.
You know, I look forward to almost every single day.
There are days that I wake up because, you know, at 8 a.m.
that I don't want to get up because I was up until 3 a.m.
But, you know, for the most part, I mean, like, I'm pretty happy to get up and do and continue pushing forward.
And, you know, and I will say this, you know, it's always nice to, you know, work with the people that I enjoy.
Right.
to be around and, you know, have the pleasure of working with, you know, I do work with some incredible individuals that have done, you know, a lot of impact and progression have helped also shape me and my direction, you know, in the space as well.
And so a lot of that just feeds me even more.
And, you know, like every single day, like, or, you know, every few months, what's funny is that, like, I'm like, this is my goal.
And I get to cross off a lot of goals just because, you know, the opportunity, this space has no ceilings, you know.
And, you know, you never know, you know, in some of these events or conferences, who you're standing next to.
And they can just be anywhere, you know.
So it's just, it's kind of cool.
It's definitely amazing.
And I plan to continue that push forward until it's over with, right, until there's nothing left.
So, yeah.
Yeah, so basically forever.
Forever.
Forever.
I mean, I hope that, I mean, we never know what the future brings.
I don't know what's around the corner, but I do know that this is, this is something that this is like the internet era, right?
Like, but this is the crypto era.
There's just so much to do and so much to push.
And, you know, even here on X and Twitter or X, you know, it's itself like, you know,
um there's so much growth we're so early you know with with a lot of the spaces and things like that
i mean you know your your your count here on x like it'll grow so much from from where we are um
i mean there's just so many things that that can be done in web three the space is just
god it's just in so many directions yeah you're so right with that and that's kind of like our
mindset as well you know i mean we've been here for
you know,
with this,
with this movement,
and,
you know,
really seeing people find the purpose
and find themselves
where they want to be.
And it's been such an amazing experience
and,
you know,
an absolute roller coaster in every direction,
of course,
which it is for everyone.
But it's great when you can kind of,
find like you were saying find the people that you resonate with that that you can enjoy
waking up to speak with and that's why these events are so awesome you know like we're having the
the pleasure of meeting a man in the audience right down there uh monkeys are um
at the cheer meetup in London and we'll be meeting Z3 as well,
which is someone we've been speaking to for that four years,
but we've never met him in person yet.
But we speak every single day.
So, you know,
we're super excited about that.
And it's great that there's,
you know,
these elements of,
of connectivity that you just can't experience anywhere else.
And when you're building in an industry like this,
and you're really trying to find your feet that you,
you connect with people in a different way so like like you were saying before about all your friends
being bots um obviously is a joke but you know referring to your friends on the internet
it's it's a different way of connecting with people because you know we don't care what we look like
what our banks that banks say we are in value of money it's just about who we want to become um
how we want to become it and and the things that matter most to us that kind of seem to be at the
forefront before the normal things that would be at the forefront in in
in real, you know, from person to person with body language and how people, you know, conduct
themselves. So it is a really unique and interesting way for people to connect, but it's great
to see the world utilising social media like this to kind of, you know, become who they wish
to be rather than trying to showcase something that they're not. So yeah, it's definitely a great
shift in socialization that, you know, we hope continues. Yeah, of course. Of course. I mean, I,
this has definitely been...
you know a place that that I've met so many great people and like I said I mean it brought me to the people that I work with now and it's it's a pleasure to work for them and you know to seeing where they're going and how they've already shaped the space and just to you know kind of basically get molded by what they've done what they've experienced what they've built um
and then share it with the people that I've come across in my journey is always amazing and great, you know.
Yeah, a million percent.
Couldn't agree more with that.
And, you know, and what an incredible way to kind of like wake up in the mornings and all there's so much.
that you occur about to kind of tap into on a daily basis.
And it does really change your perspective on life and what you think is possible.
And, you know, it helps you broaden your horizons, doesn't it,
knowing that there's so much out there and so many people,
so farly spread around the world that you can kind of connect with and enjoy.
But I just want to do a quick shout out to everyone that's listening in.
You know, we appreciate an absolute legend has just dropped in as well.
TT NFT down there.
He's an absolute legend that I was fortunate enough to meet through X, thanks to Z3.
We've got Monke Zoo in the building who we are absolutely looking forward to featuring next Friday,
where he will be accompanied with Gene Hoffman.
super excited about that because a few weeks later down the line from them we're
going to meet him in person so that's super exciting we've got the sloths down
there stone sloths an absolute legendary web 3 brand that are tapped into
IRL as well through the the vape juices and all the amazing things they're doing as
well we've got lizzie the great in the building as well aka lizzie the grateful
she's an absolute legend she is the queen of the hill
from Coral Connect as well
we've got Jenny down there
Ham 4
Frenzy
definitely in account to watch
for future building as well
so yeah
Hound 4 is well in the building
and still got
crypto bit mag down there as well
we've got Bob in the building
and we've got chuffed as well
so we do really appreciate everyone
for stopping by jumping in and listening
in you guys are awesome and
we appreciate the people that stop by every week
to listen into the legends that we get to connect with
Yeah, and I appreciate those that join in the beginning and listen to me rant about on my Saturday's been going.
I've really enjoyed tonight.
It's been really nice to get to know you a bit more because, you know, we've known each other for a bit.
You've been around for a while.
And yeah, really interesting to hear about your journey, you know, where you are, what you're doing, you know, what drives you.
These are the sort of spaces that we love doing.
These are all the sort of spaces.
Yeah, it's a pleasure to be here and, you know, always thankful for the invite.
And, yeah, I know we've definitely known each other for quite a bit of time and been in, you know, quite a few of these spaces together.
And it's always great, you know, and I look forward to hopefully, you know, running across, you know, you guys at one of these events.
You know, whether it's like predetermined or we just realize who each other is.
You know, one of those ways.
But yeah, you'll definitely see me at, you know, a lot of these events.
Some of them I've got a, you know, I can't go to all of them.
Sometimes I got to chill out.
But for the most part, I'll be at all the major events, you know, Dubai, Singapore,
Gosh, I don't know, Hong Kong, quite a few others as well.
I mean, and as I continue, I'll keep continuing going to a lot more of these events and stuff like that,
just because I've kind of, you know, kind of been in the process of becoming a digital nomad
and actually just, you know, moving around and all over the world just because I have the
opportunity and I can, you know, and...
Like you were mentioning earlier, it's kind of incredible to see so many different people and faces and knowing how big the world is.
And yeah, I mean, I've definitely grown a hunger to exploring.
And it's definitely been a pleasure.
And I think it's.
I think it's one of those things where I've actually, like I said, I've been in the process of fully moving,
which is kind of funny because right, you know, here in April, I'm actually going to start another pretty big trip and probably won't come back home for like a good six months, most likely.
I'll probably be out and about and, you know, for quite a bit of time, whether I'm spending time and
And, you know, in Mexico or Dubai are just different parts of Mexico and then, you know, all over the world as well, you know, whether it's Hong Kong, the Caribbean, who knows?
um what's what's what's your favorite places to visit because you've obviously visited quite few
uh other than mexico other than mexico yeah you were gonna yeah i mean i like i said
there's a few places in mexico i do love but man i love thailand Thailand Thailand is
incredible one of my you know when i go to these places it's not just about visiting it's
also like that thought of like could i live here could i move here um
And Thailand is definitely one of those as well.
I mean, I definitely love Denmark.
Denmark's beautiful.
It's amazing as well.
Super chill.
Not that big of a fan of Canada.
Hopefully nobody's from Canada here.
They hear me.
But, I mean, yeah, France is okay.
Um, not the biggest fan.
Forrest is lovely.
It's just a shame about the French.
Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't, it's, it's all right.
It's cool.
I like it.
I don't have anything against it.
Yeah, sure.
But yeah, like how you put that, not Mexico, because there's a couple places down there that I do enjoy.
I mean, it's just super chill and fun.
I mean, and it's cheap, you know.
I think that's like one of the biggest things that I even factor in that like most people probably, it doesn't even come across their mind when they're like, where do I love the most?
I'm like...
Well, I like the place where I can spend the least amount of money and have the most amount of fun and see the most amount of beautiful things.
And it's kind of like Thailand and Mexico.
But no, I mean, I plan on going to, like I said, Hong Kong this year.
That'll be really interesting and get to explore some of that northern, that, you know, that part of Asia for some time.
Yeah.
Yeah, my friend, my friends in Thailand at the moment.
He gets to do this thing, we had to cross the border,
go and have a car of tea and come back again.
So he can stay a little bit longer.
But he loves it out there.
It's great.
He's got a little business going.
So he's basically bought a bunch of clothing.
And he's got a lady friend who runs market stall.
So he's like stocking some of her market.
Yeah.
you know help her and help himself and he's uh he's loving it out there he just you don't want to come
back he's coming back uh what was it wednesday easter so yeah probably a few weeks time yeah about two
weeks time two three about three weeks time yeah i mean hotline is it's absolutely gorgeous it's beautiful i mean
it's it's definitely a a real big
Real big thing. And, you know, I've got a friend actually who he, his entire business model, well, not entire, but a big business. Yeah, pretty much his entire business model is surrounded on, you know, helping people. He does content, right, and helping people, you know, with information on how to get a visa to move to Thailand.
I mean, that's literally what he does.
You know, he makes content on Instagram and YouTube or whatever, Facebook.
And then he's got a couple other, he's got another business that kind of like helps with some of the underlying, you know, information and requirements to get, you know, various types of visas in Thailand.
And he's not even from Thailand.
He's not even, he's not even Thai.
So it's kind of funny.
Yeah, my friends just like, is his girl.
He's constantly like, dude, you need to come, dude.
Dude, you need to come.
Yeah, okay, I will eventually.
Dude.
All right.
I, I, I, listen, I,
I've got to say, if you haven't done it, you should definitely give it a try.
It's a long old journey for us in Europe, though.
It's a long old journey.
I'm in the US.
I totally get it.
It's not a, it's a 24-hour flight.
You know, I think minimum's 22 hours, and that's if you're lucky.
Yeah, it's not a short trip, but it's incredible when you're there.
The beaches are nice, the people are nice, the food is amazing, it's not expensive.
Yeah, it's like the biggest back-up.
It's basically what he keeps saying to me.
It's true, man. Like, I mean, that's like literally one of the biggest things that I count,
I count, is like, if I go to this country,
and I stay there for a month, am I going to be able to survive and live?
And how much am I going to be spending?
I mean, for example, if I go to France, I mean, I'm going to spend money.
France is not cheap.
If I go to Thailand, it's cheap.
Like, it's a third of the cost.
Go to Mexico, it's a little bit more expensive than Thailand, but still fairly inexpensive.
You know, they're quite cost effective and...
These are definitely things that I count for my trips.
Because it's not like I get to just go and be on vacation mode the whole time.
It's like I get a weekend maybe.
And for the most part, I'm working while I'm doing that.
I'm on the call, I'm on a phone, you know, or a show or something.
But Web 3 never sleeps. That's what they say.
But it is awesome that you've been able to kind of experience, you know,
so many different parts of the world.
you know and there's you know much more to explore and that's the exciting part about this space like
you were saying earlier that you know we're still super early and and you know we're still growing
in as individuals as collectives you know the technology is still advancing the world is still yet to
kind of utilize it and and learn about it and you know definitely exciting times ahead i think
2025 is going to be quite a monumental year for for a lot of the sectors of the web free space
And we're definitely here for it.
But I mean, I think we are coming close to an end to this space.
But I mean, before we do, I just wanted to know if there was, if there was anything else you wanted to kind of touch on, if there's, you know, anything that you're working on, I mean, I'd love to eventually get you back if you wouldn't mind to, you know, touch more on lunar assets.
And, you know, maybe if any of the team are able to come with you, that would be awesome.
So, you know, we could learn more about that.
And people who want to tune in could learn more about it too.
That would be amazing.
Yeah, absolutely. I'm sure, you know, there's a few people that I can get. I mean, I can, I could probably get the CEO to come join the space as well. And, you know, he's quite incredible of the things he does. I mean, he's, you know, whether it's, he's on the Polygon grants board. X.P. Kim, you know, he's a mentor for Tim Draper's Bitcoin Phi Accelerator. He's the LA chapter leader of Bit Angels and.
All sorts of different things.
I mean, he's even an advisor for, for CJN, which is Mario in the Fall, right?
Like, I mean, that's not something that, you know, everybody knows, but, you know, it's kind of...
it kind of shows the reach and, you know, where LDA kind of goes.
But yeah, I mean, as far as what I'm working on, I mean, I'm definitely working on a few different things.
Like I mentioned earlier, been kind of in the privacy meta and space.
And I, you know, came across, you know, this new project.
It's called Matterify and Swiss Fortress.
which is quite interesting.
And then also, you know, if you guys know who Shiptoshi and Silent Swap and Squid Grow,
you know, the Silent Swap is also, they're both in the privacy sector.
And I've been kind of just diving into, you know, obviously trying to find where the next meta is going to come,
whether it's the centralized science.
Yeah.
Do you worry about the legal future for stuff like this?
This is a good question.
So like...
For example, the current...
So Matterfly and Swiss Fortress, right?
This is kind of the legal part of it and how things work.
So Matterfi is a U.S.-based company out of Wyoming, right?
And so they are an infrastructure fintech company,
and what they do is they provide security and privacy to various wallets infrastructures
and even can provide for like certain blockchain infrastructure.
So the way that the type of...
privacy that they do and that they can kind of power is like this real cryptographic
technology between wallets. So where one wallet can transact with another wallet still on
blockchain, however you're unable to see, you know, you're able to see the transaction
and you get your crypto inside of your wallet, right? But what happens is
You don't get to see what's in the other person's wallet.
So, like, if you were to be doing and how it plays out in our view, in my view,
is these governments and corporations and companies are going to want this level of transparency,
whether it's for payroll, you know, whether or not they're paying out their employees.
You know, the employee doesn't need to see how much money is in your payroll wallet.
They just need to get their money, right?
Or just, you know, the various things.
that some of these individuals are going to want to have,
whether there are these major companies that are like,
well, we don't want everybody to see what's in this wallet,
but we want to be able to transact and send you,
you know, we still have the cross-border payments.
And so how that happens is they've implemented
the technology in Swiss Fortress,
which is a Swiss-based company.
So it's an AG out of Switzerland.
In fact, the even crazier part is Matterfly is even the technology is partnered with Brinks, Brinks vaults, and their hardware, you know, and all that is, you know,
basically partner with Brinks and they've done their due diligence to even be a part of it.
So it powered Swiss Fortress.
And Swiss Fortress basically what they do is they provide the actual, they're the actual wallet, not the technology, but they're the wallet.
And they have an E&S name.
So just like unstoppable wallets or unstoppable domains, you have your name, right?
So you can have, you know, the COC name.
on an unstoppable thing.
And so one of the reasons why a lot of people
don't necessarily use unstoppable anymore
and why we've seen a little bit of a decline from unstoppable
is because some people are just aren't as,
they're not as comfortable anymore with that level of transparency.
I mean, you know, if people can constantly see what you're
transacting with and they can watch your wallet, you can put a wallet watcher on,
You know, it can be a little frustrating.
And, you know, you start thinking about this in real life, right?
If everybody is extremely transparent like this, everybody can see your finances and you don't need to see your neighbor's finance.
You just don't.
You know, you don't need to have your kids going to school and everybody's seeing each other's wallet and knowing, you know, that kind of thing.
It kind of plays into like this real, it can get really interesting and,
can be a little scary as we kind of think about it.
You know, not everybody needs to know how much money he got, just not at all times.
But if you've got a name, right, the COC, E&S, what you can do is you can send money,
you know, send crypto to Richard, right?
One E&S to another and you can also now bypass
you know, that zero, you know, that zero X, a whole bunch of numbers, and the fishing scams.
So just like Bybit, what happened is the way they got hacked is because of all the fishing scams.
You know, these hackers aren't necessarily worried about, you know, the big funds.
They're looking at the three guys who have the wallet.
and are transacting, you know, with everything else.
So if they can, you know, provide a fishing scam,
they can accidentally send the money to the wrong wallet.
But if you have an ENS now,
Um, you know, you're never going to miss and mistake that name because it's always going to be the same ENS. It's always going to be COC. But now you still carry that level of, of privacy, you know, and can make that transaction. So there's a lot that kind of goes into it. Um, you know, it kind of gets deeper. It's still, it's still brand new. Um,
But, you know, we believe that, you know, the meta is going to eventually explode, especially, you know, as, you know, the new U.S. administration kind of starts coming out with, you know, all these all these implementations in trying to say, you know, trying to bring crypto to light and creating the U.S. as a.
crypto base, you know, a capital, as they've put it, right?
So, uh, I heard they drop the tornado cashed in.
Yeah, they did. They did. So this is way different than tornado. This isn't a mixer.
A mixer's like way different. It sends it into random wall.
It's still, it's still privacy, though. Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, but still like they're, the, the,
The tornado can be, it's still different, but there is a level of fear, and there's a reason why they haven't created the wallet as a U.S.-based company, right?
Like, just the infrastructure technology is U.S. base, but the actual wallet itself isn't U.S. base because of that fear, that fear of privacy and stuff like that.
But yeah, you're right.
It's still privacy for tornado cash.
But it's definitely a little bit different.
Just like silent flop isn't like tornado cache.
It's not a mixer.
It's T-E-E-E technology as well.
Because tornado cash just basically sends it to a random wallet and random wallets.
Yeah, but it's like an EVM solution for things like, you know,
Ethereum or Solana or whatever.
Yeah, but your privacy change, privacy chains and I used to do that same sort of thing.
But like you say, you know, you can't have your client knowing what your customers are paying.
You can't know have your customers know what your clients are paying.
You know, it's not good for business, you know?
How is business going to adopt this technology without that?
Exactly.
And that's kind of like, and even government, right?
Like, or whatever, you know, um,
Everybody's going to ask for some level of transparency.
And that's it.
I mean, and the thing is, is that we can, you know, you can, like, for example, like still on chain, right?
If you have, you know, the, if you can, if you can, you can still have to where people can watch like the, you know, the, the, the, the, the actual fund because it's on chain, right?
Like, you could still see the money on chain.
Yeah.
The idea is that you're able to transact and send money, and they don't need to know exactly who and where and what's getting what.
But it's still on chain.
It's still traceable to some degree, but it doesn't necessarily...
It's like a zero knowledge sort of thing.
Well, there is some zero knowledge technology to it.
So he's actually created something quite incredible, the guy who's done this.
He's a genius.
And it's backed by some really big names, like DNA, which is Brock Pierce, and then, you know, Bit Angels, Michael Turpin as well.
And then also, you know, us Lunar Digital assets at the same time.
And they've got some big things really coming along and, you know,
It's going to be exciting to see what they do.
Now, also, same thing with silent swap.
I mean, silent swap is in the privacy as well.
And, you know, privacy has always been something that Shiptoshi has been a big fan of.
And I don't know if you guys are familiar with silent swap, but that squid grow, you know, they started out as a mean coin.
And now it's this utility to where they've got, you know, this privacy swap because Shptoshi values privacy that much.
And like, you know, there's quite a few of these projects that are starting to pop up.
I mean, you've got shade protocol, you've got secret, but, you know, in the past, it's just been,
the meta hasn't been super exciting and hasn't been there. And also just really early because
a lot of people, they are, they're not willing to be martyrs for the space and end up in
lawsuits and potentially prison and jail because of the government, you know.
No one wants to be first and no one wants to be last.
Exactly, exactly. So, yeah, I mean, that's just like, just like tornado cash, man. They, they ended up in jail and that, that was, that was it. But that's what I'm looking at right now is the privacy side. I mean, I see it as a pretty big progression and big push forward that we'll see, we'll see coming soon and.
you know, hopefully with the, you know, with the adoption that's coming out of the U.S.,
and I think it's going to be crazy.
I mean, in May, you know, there's going to be more things that are going to be released
as far as what's going to happen with regulations and stuff like that as we kind of continue
forward.
And, yeah, I mean, it'll hopefully be there to...
I think it's going to be a part of the next bull run, to be honest, is the private sector.
Are you talking about the Bitcoin Reserve law that actually has to get passed, and it would be difficult for the next president to undo it?
Yeah, so, I mean, there's definitely, you know, we've got a lot of things kind of like that are potentially coming along, whether it's the Bitcoin Reserve.
You know, also, you know, how are we going to push and make crypto or make the U.S. right into this crypto industrial revolution?
I mean, there's going to be some level of regulation flexibility, whether it's deregulation of various crypto aspects in the U.S. to, in the name of, you know, progression of technology to allow the continued research and experimentation.
you know, to bring about, you know, the various innovations and technology.
Or is it in, are we going to see it in the light of, you know, no capital gains on US-based
crypto, right? So, or maybe even just any crypto, right? But if it's on US-based, I mean,
that's going to be quite interesting.
And you may see a flock of multiple projects and companies wanting to come here and start launching U.S.-based crypto products and projects.
And so we've yet to even experience that, I think, you know, we're still so early on in the crypto industry.
Right.
And there's just so much to build and bring out.
And I believe that privacy and security are going to be on the forefront of all these, you know, because there is a problem.
People keep getting hacked.
People keep getting fish.
People keep getting scammed.
And we need security and we need privacy.
Right.
And those are going to be parts that are going to help, you know, prevent all that.
We can educate people as much as possible, but just because we educate doesn't mean the technology is ready and doesn't have the actual, you know, disabled or enablers, you know, to help continue to prevent that.
I mean, metamask and wallet card are doing a great job right now with a lot of what they're doing, I think.
But.
yeah we love wallet guys we spent to a few of those guys a good bunch yeah and michael's a good friend of mine
yeah well because of legends yeah yeah exactly i don't know about you did you guys get your new metamath cards yet
uh no no in the uk um you can't get cards you can't get crypto cards um i used to have a coinbase one i had a plutus one
I had a crypto.com one.
None of them work anymore.
You can't apply for them in the UK.
They do not want you using crypto and visa in this country.
Good grief.
Well, you know, I think hopefully with, you know,
hopefully if we see as we continue to see different countries,
And organizations adopt it, you know.
I think, you know, El Salvador, Melaide did a great job down, down in, you know, El Salvador and Argentina.
You know, they've done a great job.
And then now that the U.S. is, you know, adopting it, hopefully, you know, that'll continue the race with China and, you know, on Hong Kong as well in Russia.
And, you know, we'll see other countries like the U.K. adopted.
And, I mean, we've seen now Dubai fully, you know, take it on.
They're tear completely.
They're a nice little gray zone as well.
So, yeah.
Yeah, I just got an absolute legend on the stage.
He has his hand up.
T, TNFT.
How we do, my friend?
Thank you for joining us and dive in there, sir.
No bad, bro.
I was just listening there for the crypto.com.
I still use my visa in the UK, bro.
I'm in Scotland, and I still use the crypto.com all the time.
I use it for quite a lot of stuff to be felt.
Yeah, my card stopped working.
The customer service was less and helpful,
so I was just kind of giving up on it.
I literally bought the Wayans a quad last week,
both a fucking outside play, to the UK,
WaymerCrupter.com visa team, man.
Mine's still fine.
Yeah, nice. That's good.
Well, at least it's working for someone.
It just ain't working for me.
But, you know, I appreciate that, mate.
Appreciate that.
Let's just get back on that so if I can press, press on trying to get a fix for that.
It's quality what he used it for as well.
Did he say you got a quad for the little one?
Yeah, bro.
It's just one for me to play a bit on it.
So you're a motohawk, a joke, like you, Joe call him.
Ah, yeah.
They love it.
It's fun.
Yeah, I bet they do.
I bet they do.
That's quality.
Great purchase.
But how are you doing anyway, bro?
Are you good?
Yeah, man.
I've just been doing stuff in real life, bro, for a bit.
Yeah, I feel you're doing that.
Web 3 will be coming a bit much.
Yeah.
Yeah, it definitely does that, my friend.
I think everyone's kind of felt the toll on that one.
It's been, I mean, 2024 was just,
I don't even know what that was, to be fair.
I wouldn't even, I'm not even smart enough to be able to kind of,
describe it with words but it was definitely eventful and I think 2025 hopefully is a nice
opportunity to kind of find the balance somewhere in the middle combination of iRL and web
three and then it will be manageable and sustainable hopefully so i hope things are going good for you
especially in i r as well broska yeah man everything's good to you broj you've been chowling with
the wee ones mostly been at them in the quad walking painting away and shit yeah
boring iRL stuff but uh at least you'll be able to have some fun with the quad maybe a little bit more fun than them but uh
definitely one of the perks of the job of course but no nice one bro should uh it's probably
bring to a close pretty soon we normally do this for two hours we've had uh one guest for two hours let's go
And we're absolutely breathed. I love it. But no, we appreciate you, Richard. You know what I mean? You've done a lot in the space. You've been very busy. You know, I travel in the world, connecting with people. You know, really doing a great job of, you know, showcasing the true value of what the space brings.
And same with you, TT, I've seen you doing a lot and, you know, absolutely ultra-driven, love the positivity and that, and that drive just to kind of persevere through one of the craziest industries to have ever been invented.
But it's amazing to see people still finding the way to show up and keep pushing forward and, you know, and, and, and,
and become what you know yourself to be.
So, you know, for a player to survive the longest burn market in human history,
you know, the Wild West and still come out the other side, strong.
as you know as hard hitting as it was for all of us really and in our irals in different ways it's
great that we're still going so uh but yeah we will we will sort of bring this round to a close but
we'll we'll we'll start with you if you want richard if you have any closure remarks you'd like to
add my friend no i just want to say thank you for for bringing me here i mean it's humbling to
uh you know to join the space and have the opportunity to share um and yeah i mean
Of course, I do pride myself on a lot of the things that I've been doing and progressing.
I mean, there's so much more to do.
But at the same time, you know, I couldn't do it without the amazing people here in the space
who are, you know, also helping, you know, me push forward and helping the progression of the
space and, you know, giving me the, you know, the feel that I need to keep on going.
And so it's nice to see the positive light and positive people in the space and, you know,
And it's always a pleasure.
And, you know, just like, and if anybody, like I mentioned earlier,
if you guys are wanting to get connected into the Bit Angels network, let me know.
Reach out to me, shoot me a DM.
You know, if you're trying to get a grant onto Polygon, reach out to me, shoot me a DM.
You know, if you just want to connect a network, you know, feel free.
Reach out to me, shoot me a DM.
I mean, I'm in Telegram all the time.
I'm in the COC Telegram.
as well. I mean, I tend to, I'll, I usually try to drop things, whether it's our events or space or something in there.
I try not about my best not to spam or anything, but if it's something that I feel it's good, I want to share it with everybody and give everybody the opportunity to be involved and join.
So, yeah, thank you.
That's what I appreciate is, you know, is you don't spam and you do share the stuff, the little nuggets.
You share the good stuff and we appreciate it.
We see it.
Yeah.
I try my best.
I know a lot of people that sometimes they can, they'll get chilly and they'll spend most
sorts of stuff and I do my best to just share the quality of things that we have.
And, you know, if I do share it in there, you know, it's in hopes that, you know, it finds
somebody that that's looking for that exact thing and then.
So, yeah.
Yeah, we do appreciate that. And that's it. That's kind of what we're trying to accomplish. It's that approach, you know, like we've known each other for quite a while and that, you know, that helps. And, you know, we already have a little context behind what you're trying to share and that if you're sharing it, it's something that we feel that you feel we would benefit from looking at. So, you know, we always appreciate that. And we're always trying to.
help people to, you know, take accountability for their own actions and, you know, do the due diligence.
And, you know, we're quite, we're quite lucky, you know, over the years, we've got a real good bunch of people that, you know, just want to kind of build together and add value to each other and help, you know, shine a good light on the space.
And, you know, you're one of those people too.
So we definitely appreciate that.
And, you know, thank you again for joining us tonight.
And as for your show, you know, we would love to come whenever the invitation is, you know, just let us know if there's anything we need to fill out in, in, in, you know,
in advance, you know, shoot you over to us.
And there's a few ecosystems that I think would definitely love to connect with you
in regards to grants over on Polygon, which we'll make those connections on the back end,
most definitely.
So, you know, we appreciate that as well, my friend, definitely.
Yeah, just, you know, they want to reach out to me or if you just want to make a group,
I'll be more than happy.
And of course, I can never promise or guarantee anything.
But I'll give you the information and recommendations that I can provide.
Yeah, no, thank you, bro.
We appreciate that.
And once again, you know, thank you for allocating two hours of your night on a Saturday
to come share your story with us and give us, you know, a deeper dive on you, what you're doing.
And, you know, the things that are coming up in the future.
You, as always, absolutely smashed it.
And it was a great conversation.
So, you know, thank you again.
But yeah, we will go around the room, we'll get some closing remarks, and we'll play out on a song.
I'll jump over to you, T.T. I know you only jumped up just to let us know that your card's still working, but we appreciate you joining nonetheless.
And it's great to see you, bro, honestly.
Absolutely love the content that create and the positivity and drive that you've always brought to Web Free.
It's a strength in its own.
Cheers, bro. I'm here I'm still listening, man.
I'm just trying to keep quiet because the few ones are just trying to go to sleep sometime
to hide in the kitchen and no wake them up at the same time.
Yeah, believe me, I know exactly what you're coming from
from every single perspective of that statement.
So for playing that, you know, thank you for even being willing to do that,
just to jump in and chat to us.
So nice one, T, T. We appreciate you, bro.
Thank you for the show of it, man.
Cheers.
Absolutely, my friend. Always welcome on our space anytime, my friend.
But Z3, have you got any closing remarks, you Welsh legend, not to throw in the deep end or anything.
I know you're always doing multiple things at once.
Hopefully it's soon to be sleeping because it is late, but we appreciate you, bro.
No, man. I was just busy on doing multiple of things for it.
So where's the case, bro, you're a legend.
Same thing, you know, showing up every single day,
helping the team on the back end, building the stuff that you're building.
You know, we appreciate you, my friend.
But again, you know, thank you for all the value that you add
and all the support that you provide because, you know,
99% of what you do is never seen.
And most people will probably never see it.
But, you know, we know it and we appreciate you, bro.
So as always, thank you very much for what you do as well, Z.
You're a legend.
Thanks, sir. I'll have one.
Not a problem, sir.
Tony, did you manage to have a nice relaxed bath?
And I don't know if you're able to speak now because, again, we're in the UK.
Everyone's found Missouri asleep.
But if you're able to say any closing remarks, you're more than welcome to.
But if not, we will close that with the bacon sandwich.
Yes, I had a lovely soak.
Thank you very much.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Yeah, love the space and, you know, love to hear them.
Richard's journey and, yeah, appreciate you coming on, Richard, legend.
Let's go.
Nice one, Tony.
But yeah, I know we appreciate it.
And, you know, staying with you, Tony.
Always working hard on the back end and supporting everything that's going on and connecting
and being a part of so many different things.
projects and communities and you know this network's been growing for over four years and you know
it's it's taken an army to keep moving forward through all the trials and tribulations but you know
this goes to everyone in the space listening as well you know lizard are grateful and the hill
t t how and you know jenny and and everyone else is listening and you guys do an amazing job
to keep adding the value that you add and it's very difficult aligned with iRL and work and
personal stuff as well so yeah
the bacon sandwich have you got any closing remarks uh yeah no great great space really enjoyed
tonight cheers for joining us richard uh it's uh really good chat um just to mention uh next week
we are doing a concert in the metaverse instead of doing our twitter space um in collaboration with zol from the zal
um uh clee jam will be playing for us and uh out of body will be there um doing music bits
and yeah we're going to put on a little stage in the metaverse that's been lent to us by uh salty sharks
um so we can yeah we can have a little party in the metaverse next week he's coming uh i've pinned
i've pinned the rsvp at the top uh it's like the second pin thing uh it's the um the luma link
But yeah, check it out.
RSVP boys and girls.
We're going to go party next week.
in the metaverse it's going to be it's going to be amazing we're super super hype for it it's going to be
the first one of many events that we're doing the metaverse and you know thanks to zahl and the
zal team for all the things that they do with web three music helping artists become their own label
and helping them with their branding and and all of the the difficult sides of being being and
becoming an artist in getting organized and you know building out their professionalism and
having this collaboration with them to put on a virtual event with, you know, two really, really well-established artists and producers with Atabotty and his wife and his team.
And Cleajan, who is absolutely smashing it on social media at the minute, he's got over a million followers just over on TikTok and 100 to thousands across.
YouTube and Instagram and all the other places as well because he's just very gifted.
He's been doing it a long time and we're super excited for it because this is the times
where we kind of love to bring people together to celebrate something in a really unique
way really so we're super excited about that.
And also that will be taking place on Saturday 9pm UK time 4pm EST.
I think the times have changed.
The time's up right.
We'll be starting at like half eight,
so that's like an hour and a half earlier that we'd normally go.
I think that's just to like get settled in.
Everyone can have a chit chat and stuff before we sort of,
before we kick off.
But it will be an hour earlier because Zal will set the time at four.
Eastern, which would normally be the right time, but because for some reason, someone please explain this to me, the Americans change their clock and then like three weeks later, we change our clock.
So in that period, people are turning up late for meetings or they're turning up an hour early for meetings.
And it just causes so much pandemonial.
Why can you not just have some kind of synchronized system where everyone changes the clocks at the same time or even better?
Don't change them at all.
Just leave them be.
The sun was here long before we were.
How are we to tell the sun to tell the time?
You know?
Wasn't it from a guy in Scotland who actually invented daylight savings time?
Yeah, probably.
It was probably some crazy scot.
What was he thinking?
Yeah, if that is the case, just leave it.
That's a war you won't win.
Just because it's darker up there, deal with it.
Yeah, if I've learned anything, you just don't mess with the Scottish.
They are warriors.
Absolutely loving for it as well.
But all jokes aside, it is funny how times are so messed up.
And it definitely doesn't do well for marketing, let's say.
But yeah, if the Scots did it, then so be it.
We'll just deal with it.
Yeah.
But yeah, so that's taking place on Saturday.
And those events are brilliant for networking.
Salty Sharks have got an amazing auditorium environment where they do a lot of their Web 3 gaming events
where people come and showcase the things that they're building and everyone has their own booth.
And they do a lot of networking and connecting.
It's brilliant for that.
So it's always great vibes.
So this is going to be similar, but with music.
So great vibes, great music.
And it'll be an amazing experience.
So that will be on Saturday.
So if anyone does want any more information, please reach out.
Like Bacon said, there is the Luma link at the top if you want to RSVP
because I think the environment can have 50 people before it will be duplicated.
So if you want to be in the first 50, I'd act soon because that's soon going to be filled up
and you'll be added into the next environment, which will be identical.
It will just have a different set of 50 people in there.
So, yeah, we're super excited about that.
And you'd have to watch it on a stream, on a big screen, in the auditorium.
That is the one.
Yeah.
Yeah, nice one, bacon. Appreciate that.
And then on Friday, same 9pm UK time.
We're featuring Tim Youngman, the founder of Monkey Zoo,
who also hosts education spaces for Chia.
And we have Gene Hoffman as well,
the CEO of ChiaNet and Chia Blockchain,
who those spaces are usually really big.
A lot of people come.
They're a great, huge community.
It's absolutely revolutionary what they're building over there.
Just because Jane is a legend.
James been around since it's the 90s building cool shit.
you know what I mean yes yeah yes and and you know him and the the core founder have
really built something absolutely magnificent and it's and it's ever evolving and ever
improving and you know if you don't know much about cheer or you don't know anything about
cheer definitely come and check it out listening jeanne's a great dude and you can come up on
the stage and ask questions if you have any as well so yeah we're really looking forward to
that as well so definitely an action-packed weekend next week but that being said
thank you very much everybody you have all been amazing thank you for listening and sharing out
the space and supporting and the big shout out to anyone that listens back to this space later on
as well and richard as again thank you so much for joining us and allocating your time and i really
hope we didn't wake up t t's children as well because
that wouldn't be pleasant for him.
So yeah, that being said, I will play us out on a song.
Thank you, everyone.
You've been amazing.
And we will catch you on Tuesday in our telegram for our mental health space
ran by Miss Evie, 9pm UK time if anyone wants to come and connect with us
or if anyone wants to speak about anything because we understand mental health is extremely important.
And we really do want to advocate for the well-being of people in the web through space.
or in any space, but obviously we're in Web 3,
so that's kind of where we point it.
So that being said, I will play us out.
Thank you very much, everyone.
You have been amazing,
and we will catch you, Legends, next time.
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