WEB3 CONTENT CREATORS | The Rly Good Web3 Show

Recorded: May 4, 2023 Duration: 3:18:25
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Welcome. This is the Really Good Web 3 Show with me, Dancing Eddie, your host for tonight,
paired with Ruto, who will be here shortly. This is the Daily Alpha umbrella space. The Daily
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forward to having a fun conversation tonight. Give me a few minutes if you're listening in on
the recording. I'm going to play some tunes and send some invites out. So give me a few minutes.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Like a hippie booming with constellations. Can you read my fortune?
With darkness in your eyes until the morning. With the arms open.
Cause I can keep falling. Through colitis, nothing skies. You said trip, think a dip.
Follow all the yellow bricks
Take the tap, I can hear
Like it's 1966
As you've seen
Do some dreams
Had to taste like gasoline
You're a servant of the chemical
Oh, here we go again
It's that stupid hippie dance
Oh, here we go again
It's that stupid hippie dance
My hippie's booming
With cancellations
Can you read my fortune?
The darkness in your eyes
Until the morning
With the arms open
Cause I can't keep falling
Through colitis
Up the skies
You said trip and live
I don't know the yellow bricks
Take the tap, I can hear
Like it's 1966
As you've seen
Do some dreams
Had to taste like gasoline
You're a servant
To get me cold
All right, all right, all right
How we doing?
How we feeling?
Good morning, good evening, good afternoon
What is up, everybody?
This is the Really Good Web 3 show
I am your co-host for tonight
Paired with another
Well, the other co-host
Ruto, how are you
How are you living
This wonderful Wednesday evening?
I'm living
I'm living, man
I felt like a long day
I don't know why, man
Maybe it's because I was productive
But you know what?
That's a good thing
But feeling good
Okay, all right
Sick, sick
And actually, you know what?
While we're doing it
Might as well say hello
To our first speaker of the night
What's going on, English?
How are you treating tonight?
Everything's good, man
GM, what's going on, fellas?
I think more GN
Because we're getting
Into the evening hours
For us USA folks
But generally
You have a good dinner?
You feeling good?
Having a good time?
Yeah, I don't know
I've been on this fitness routine
And I kind of eat the same thing
Just to kind of make it simpler
So that's kind of
What I've been doing
Eating-wise
So it's the same thing
What's that?
Is it effective?
I think so
Pretty well
I mean, I've done it pretty
I don't do the keto
But it is somewhat
Restricted in carbs
Or whatever
But just getting, you know
The macros in
And, you know
Hitting the weights heavy
And doing some
Some hand intervals
So I usually do CrossFit
Is kind of my jam
But I've been
Focusing on strength
Compound movements
And stuff like that
Okay, damn
Alright, sick
I got told off
At the gym today
Because I do sprints
I do sprints on the turf
I only ever do it
When there's
An empty lane
Like I don't
I don't just randomly
Do sprints
And I'm just like
Dipping and dodging
Between people
I do it when there's
An empty lane
And I got told off
The person was like
Someone was complaining
So you're gonna have to stop
Who the hell was complaining?
What the fuck?
That's why I don't really like
Like typical gyms
Like with air conditioning
Inside and like mirrors
It's just not my jam
Like, you know
I usually go for a run
Before and it's a warehouse
Style with CrossFit
So I go like
Just run around the neighborhood
Whether that's like sprints
Or, you know
Just a 5k or whatever
Before I go work out
So like I do that
Build up a sweat
It's like kind of
That's so CrossFit
Of you, English?
Did you take a 5k
Before you work out?
Yeah, absolutely
Dude, savage, bro
I mean, so like
I don't do it
At like 5k pace
And sometimes
It'll be like
Five minute intervals
With, you know
Like a minute in between
Or whatever
Just to kind of warm up
But I was actually
I did it pretty crazy
Last summer
Or actually not
It was two summers ago
It was before NFTs
Working on
I sometimes do like
And then go work out
Dude, have you
It was way too much
Eddie, have you
I don't know about you
But it's funny
Because there's so many people
I've spoken to
That were like
Yeah, I was in like
The greatest shape of my life
Then I got into NFTs
And it's the same thing
For me, bro
I was like
Training for a boxing fight
Trained for like
Four months straight
Got shredded up
And then I found NFTs
And then it was just
Downhill from there
Dude, you know
It's hilarious
I had a Doc's picture
Cardinal's one of the homies
My co-host
And you know
He saw an early picture
Of me when I first
Got into the space
And maybe like
The picture was taken
Like three months
Before like
I got into like
So I met him
And then April
My other co-host
Hadn't ever saw me
She's like
Are you going to go
To NFT NYC
And I'm like
Yeah, I'm thinking about it
She's like
Doc's time
And I was like
Oh, you've never
Seen my face
She's like
And I was like
Alright, here's a picture
And Cardinal's like
That's a fucking
Different picture
Than I first saw
And I was like
Yeah, 15 pounds heavier
More gray hair
Dude, I ran my first
Well, not my first
I ran a 5k this weekend
Do you guys still have hair?
Eventually, maybe not, Jonah
But I ran a 5k this weekend
It was in the pouring rain
Which sucked
But I got through it
In 26 minutes
And like 10 seconds
Or something like that
I think that was my time
Which, not bad
But my legs were not happy
They were pretty upset
After that
I was surprised
Mark Zuckerberg
He did like
I saw it on like
My newsfeed or whatever
Like under 20
Under 20 minutes
And apparently
He hadn't run in a while
I was like
Dude, good for you, dude
Zuckerberg fast
What's it with these tech guys?
These tech nerds
That just get super rich
And then they're like
They have like
Their dark horse comeback
Bezos getting jacked
And now Zuckerberg
Becoming a super runner
That's crazy
Dude, well the thing
Bezos is on
Bezos is on
That test treatment, bro
He's on for sure
Which is good, dude
He's on that
He's on the
Trend hard
Eat clean diet
Dude, he has
More tests
He has more tests
Now than he has
In his entire life
It's a beautiful thing
Let's keep things rolling
How about you?
How's your
How's your Monday
How's your Wednesday
Treating you?
All so long
Have to make decisions
And keep working
Short and sweet
Love to see it
Alright, well
Let's dive into things
To start things off
If you don't mind
On the bottom right
You see that purple button
If you could give this space
A like and a retweet
That would help us out
Um, and if you want
To leave a comment
Give us your
Here, let's see
What should we
What should we ask tonight?
I think a good
I think a good comment
To ask about tonight
Is generally
Like where
Where do you see
The market going
Right now?
Um, do you
Do you think
Up or down?
Because we're in
An interesting place
Um, I actually
Don't know exactly
What happened
With the rates today
To be quite
To be quite honest
I don't know
I did not have the time
To keep up with that
But I heard
Um, we had
Some, you know
Basis point hikes
Um, and we're
We're told that
To expect them
To keep going forward
So that's one thing
We also saw
We're starting to see
The effects
Of the blur loans
Which I've got
Plenty of thoughts on
Um, and we also
Had some other things
Interestingly tonight
Today we had
We had SWE launch
Which we've been
Talking about SWE
For a hot minute
I bought some
Do not call it SWE
What is it?
I'm pretty sure
Is it SWE?
No, it's SWE
Bro, it cannot be SWE
Bro, there's no way
It's S-U-I
How would it not be SWE?
It's definitely SWE, bro
Bro, I refuse to believe it
If people start calling it SWE
Like widespread
That would be actually insane
Bro, that's what it's called, man
Dude, I've never heard
Anyone affirm that
You're the first person
You're the first person I've heard
Call it SWE
OG, it's cause you hang out
With a bunch of people
Who can't read
And can't speak straight, dude
That's why
OG, I've been on SWE
Eight months
This is not my first rodeo
With this puppy
Dude, there's no way
Bro, get a SWE representative
Get a SWE representative
I would love a SWE rep
That would be very awesome
I don't see it happening tonight
But that would be great
I'd be down
Yo, should I
Should I text
The founder of Fuddies
And get him in here
And have him explain to us
How the fuck
No, get Rain in here
I'm down to make this
A little bit of a pre-fuddy space
Those things are freaking hilarious
Did you see the
Did you see the trailer today?
I posted about them
Yeah, dude
I did too, man
I'm texting them
Alright, alright
Cool, cool, cool
In the meantime
Let's say hi to some of these
Hands on stage
How's it going, dude?
What's up, Eddie?
And what's up, Rudo?
And I think it's TDA
It's my first time
As a speaker
I've been listening for a while
With the macro environment
Yeah, I want to discuss that a little bit
I honestly don't pay attention that much
Because I'm really busy
But there's a good person
His name's Danny
That I listen to
And he provides really good feedback
And quick snippets
Of Jerome Powell
And stuff like that
But I thought it was
Pretty interesting
I think it was a 25 base
Like, increase
And, like, I think
His words was
Like, he's thinking about
Like, as of right now
It's like a wait-and-see approach
I think overall
Like, in the market right now
Like, it's like a bear market
But I think
It'll probably
Like, be around
Like, here for a while
And then hopefully
Things end up
Coming better in the future
Only time will tell
Only time will tell
Absolutely
I, to be honest
I would love to comment
But I just
Personally
I just do not know enough
And I don't want to be
The one trying to tell you
Where the market's gonna go
Up or down
When I just
I just don't know
Like, that's not
That's not my skill set
And I'm not gonna pretend
That it is
Like a lot of people might
What about you?
What do you think?
What's up, Prancy and Eddie?
Uh, what's good, y'all?
Uh, how y'all day's been?
Excellent, vibing
Generally, vibing
It's been very busy today
Um, and some stuff
I gotta catch up on
But generally
You know, that's what the fuck
We love to hear
I didn't hear how your day was
So I'm kind of upset
Are you gonna disclose that?
Or is that confidential?
No, it was good, man
It was a busy day
It seems like it's been a long one
But fun, man
It was a good day
It was beautiful out
Awesome, awesome
What are you guys excited for
In crypto this week?
Well, I'll tell you this
So, I'm looking at
This might be frustrating to some
Because I know that this has been
On the minds of many
I have my Azuki loan
And my Azuki loan
I'm diving headlong
Into this thing
I'm very interested
In how this plays out
And how these loans
Play out here
With, um, with Blur
My Azuki loan
As it stands right now
Is not looking hot
Uh, it's not
It's not looking super hot
It's looking
Are you a lender?
I'm a lender
I'm a lender
Because I wanted to learn
Like, purely
Because I just wanted to learn
I expected to lose
I just don't want to lose
But it's not looking great
So, as it stands right now
Uh, I have
A 15.4 ETH loan
Outstanding
On, on Azuki
I've called it
I called it about
Eight hours ago
It's, you know
It's traveling and up
They're doing the auction
Uh, and no one's gonna bite
Like, no one's gonna bite
On this thing
So, I'm likely gonna get
Like, the person's gonna get liquidated
I'm gonna take their Azuki
Which, thankfully
It's a slightly above floor Azuki
But it's not above floor enough
That, you know
It's, it's not above floor enough
That people are gonna consider it
Anything but floor
So, I'm likely gonna end up
With an Azuki
That I paid essentially
15.4 ETH for
Isn't so bad
But, at the same time
I think Azuki's probably
Tending, trending towards
Like, the 14s right now
So, I'm a little concerned
About that
I'll likely have this thing
In the next
I wanna say
24 hours or so
I'll have the Suzuki on hand
Wait, Eddie
Here's an idea
People pay
The royalties
Or pay a yearly subscription
For Azuki to make money
Every six months
The NFT they own
Goes into an option pool
That would be brutal
That would
So that way
So that way
All the actual paying
All the actual paying Azuki's
Can go and snipe Grails
If they want
Most of the people
Who have Grails
Might not be paying
The monthly
Or the yearly subscription
Bro, I'll tell you this right now
Having Grails
This incredibly
Illiquid market
Sucks dude
It's not the wave
Like you really
Only can have Grails
In the Azuki market
They're the only ones
That have fair
In their market
But it's just
It's drying up
That it's drying up
Because I facilitated
For the Azuki's
The other day
That I negotiated
Fell quite a bit
Along the way
There was definitely
Some interest
In liquidating
It's not looking
Too amazing
To that end
What we're seeing
Is we're seeing
The very first
The cascading
Liquidations
Off the blur loans
It's literally
Just starting today
Fairly expected
Just generally
Very interesting
We're gonna be
We're gonna see
Where this goes
Based off of
Where I see
These loans at
Based off of
Where I see
These bids at
I'm thinking
In the next
To be honest
But that's
Where I'm at
Let's welcome
The new hand
Up to the stage
What's going on
Treating you man
Motherfucking shit
What's fucking
I'm doing well dude
Like it's 1am
I'm in bed right now
Just about
When I was falling asleep
I get a DM
I get a DM
From this beautiful
Right here
And I was like
I gotta support the boys
I gotta come up on the show
You guys have
Incredible discussions
On a daily basis
So I had to pull up
And see what you guys
Talking about
Always a pleasure
To see you Shiv
We're basically
Talking about
Everyone calls you
A fake Izuki
Well maybe not so
Fake any longer
With the way that
These prices are trending
Izuki's trending
A great day
A great day for me
Is you know
With a tremendous
Man of slander
Against my fake Izuki
These days
I thrive off it
Give me the tension
Of my fake Izuki
My fake Izuki
Gives me the perks
Of an actual Izuki
These days
This is the way
I'll be rolling
Suck it bozos
That's what's up
Funny fact bro
You're the reason
Why I look
I was looking at
The Automa
The other day
Don't buy one
I don't advocate
For Automa
At a tall bro
Now deadass
I need to say this
I'm growing
Okay respectfully
I'm growing
I'm climbing the ladder
And people see the PFP
And like you know
I want to be part of
This ecosystem
That Shiv is a part of
With this Automa
Don't get me wrong
I'm very grateful
Towards Automa
But I don't advocate
I've had like
A couple people
DM me saying
I'm buying into Automa
Don't buy into this
Collection
Because of me
You should not buy it
Because of me
You shouldn't
Always do your own
Research and shit
I just have this
PFP right now
But I'm in the midst
Of changing it
Just know that
I'm in the midst
Of changing it
I mean I've known
About them for a while
But I was looking
At the floor
And I was like
The artwork's
Just super sick
Like I don't expect
Anything out of it
I just think the artwork
Is super clean
High detail
And they just look dope
I'm a little
Dude the artwork
The art fucks
Dude like big time
Like you see mine
It's clean as fuck
It's so clean
People have mistaken it
For a Zuki
Like you know
That's how I roll
Dude you're gonna get
A bean aren't you
I can just sense it
Okay I'll give you alpha
I'll give you alpha
I'll give you alpha
I do need to get a bean
I do need to get a bean
I do need to get a bean
Don't get me wrong
I'll be chickened out
I wanna get a bean
Like I really like
But PFP wise
I have something else
But I'll roll that out
In given time
I want a whole thread
The whole package deal
I'm doing spaces
Doing threads
I'm doing like
Interviews
I'm doing everything
Bro I've been seeing it
I see Flurry
Doing them
Obviously Jonah
Hits some threads
OG with the content
We're seeing our boy
A's doing memes
I've noticed
Has anyone else seen
Just non-stop
Banger threads
From people
TL these days
I fucking love it bro
But back in the day
It was just GMs
All over the place
Which is great
But now we're getting
Like actually people
Trying to grow their
Their following
And fucking write threads
And make content
And I'm just
Dude the Blur team
Liked retweeted
And commented on my tweet today
And it didn't pop off
And I was like
Blur is interested in my team
How are you guys
How is the community
I was just
I was trying to do a service
And it only did okay
Which whatever
Engagement's down today
I'm gonna blame it on engagement
I'm not gonna blame it
On the quality of my tweets
Engagement is
Holy shit dude
Eddie came in VC
Spoke about engagement
And I'm like
Maybe the tweet
Did not bang
Maybe the tweet
Just did not bang
We've been there for
Some people like to
Claim shadow ban
And shit like that
I made a tweet
And I'm like
Eddie was right
Engagement has been down
Down today
I wanna hear it
I went through your
I went through your tweets
Homie gets like
On every tweet bro
I don't wanna hear that
Your engagement
Is absolute fire
And if you're talking
Was it in the
Citadel discord
Cause I was hanging
With Arcanic
And a couple
Of the boys
We went through
A phase dude
Call me brother
From now on
Eddie's known
As brother
We need to
Realign our goal
And purpose
Within this space
People have been
Too focused up
On a lot of
Materialistic things
So much shit
Happening in this space
So much drama
We need to come back
Really align ourselves
With our mission
And our goal
So you know
From now on
Call me brother Shiv
With everything else
I'm on a clear mission
I'm on a mission
Eddie knows this mission
That's why it's called
Brother Eddie
And I'll tell you this
You know who needs this
Jonah definitely needs
To become a brother
He is off the path
You are off the path
You need to join
The brotherhood
Where is this path
What righteousness
You are off
Whatever that path
I have been sinning
For a long time
I'm literally
I'm literally like
Half Jewish
Most of the world
Does not like me
I have to tell you
It's just what it is
I've accepted that faith
By the way
I'm not doing
Just Twitter content
You guys gotta be
Thinking bigger than Twitter
I do fucking
LinkedIn threads bro
We're gonna
No you don't
I would like to
Do you really
Let's do this
Let's do this
Let's pause for a second
Here's what we're gonna
Talk about tonight
At least for the
For the time being
Let's talk a little bit
About content
I know I normally don't
But it seems like
We've got some
Incredible creators
Between Flurry
And of course
Who's leading
The content creator
Revolution
Now that's
That's why
I'm gonna start
Kuro's heart
Which scared me
A little bit
But that post
Was a little bit
Terrifying
What do you think
About the creator
Revolution
You've been
Posting about it
I pop beans
Sex school
But you ever
Took some profits
I counted more money
Once I started
Talking less
And started doing more
Doing more
To the door
With all the invites
To perform
I could do a tour
They tried to turn me down
I told them
Turn me up
I don't play around
You better check the score
Is that it
This is my
Mediast to
And my commitment
To unite the
And artifact
Communities
To create a revolution
By any means
Kurozone's burner
I think that's it
Every one of these
Accounts is a burner
I will fucking
Sell this shit
When it gets to
25,000 followers
I will sell this shit
And start from zero
I'm not that fucking guy
I'm tired of everyone
Always talking about
This especially
Goes out to you
Stop writing about
Making content
And make some
God damn content
I do it every fucking day
I put out a render
Every fucking day
And I don't know anything
I'm waiting for this
I'm waiting for this
Sony ZV1 in the mail
Give me a fucking second
But he has a fucking phone
That he's sitting here on
Not making any content
This is crazy to me
I hear you
I hear you
I'll get a handle
Bro listen man
Hold on hold on hold on
This shit is not gonna
Wait for anyone
Don't hold on me
I'm not that guy
I'm a bean bro
I wouldn't hold on
Look at the conviction
In my fucking eyes
I'm a bean bro
Don't ever fucking
Play with me bro
I'm not a gold bean yet
But I'm getting a gold bean
With the same eyes soon
So you better stop
Fucking playing
Whoa are you serious
But like yo
You need to be more serious
About this content shit
People are like
Oh why are you making
AI content
Because AI is fucking cool
That's why people
Make AI content
You don't have to be
Laser focused on
Dying ecosystem
And the only reason
It's dying
Is cause your content sucks
I walked into
A deez nuts joke
On purpose today
To get fucking
My homeboy
To take a screenshot
Saying I'm a clone
With a bean on
I'm a bean baby
The wildest
Let's go Kuro
I'm fucking
I was bullish
On that entire
Thing that you just said
I only understood
Half of it
But I'm fucking
Bullish on it
I understood
A lot of it
Kuro actually
Has been doing it
Like if you actually
Watch his account
He has been
Creating stuff
Even if it's just
Like simple
It's remarkable
How little effort
It actually takes
To create something
Like he's got his
He's got his models
They're in a rig
Or they're
They're rigged
I don't know
Where they're at
Probably like
Blunder or something
And he's just
Go check your
DMs right now
And then live react
Don't mute
Don't mute
Just go check your
DMs for me
Sent you a photo
Oh this is sick
That's so cool
Bro and I know
And I make content
Every fucking
God damn day
That's sick
Every fucking
God damn day
I make content
And I know nothing
What is everyone
Else's excuse
Don't want me
Influenced people
Because I'm going to
Tell them to sell
All their NFTs
And take profits
And you're all
Going to be broke
Because I cashed out
Last year in November
I'm not that fucking guy
I think you're right
You know what we need to do
We're going to toss this
To OG in just a second
You know Ruto
What you and I need to do
We need to figure out
How to get this thing
Restreamed
We have to figure out
How to get this thing
Can probably go
Hire somebody
Stop telling yourself
You're going to
Figure it out yourself
You're not going to
Fucking figure it out
You need to
Fucking hire somebody
I fucking hired somebody
To teach me how to
Animate my bean
I got the booty
Dancing bean baby
Bro I'm outside baby
I'm fucking outside
Greater than
Clonex Kuro
Did you hear that
Rattle in his voice
He's getting deep with this
OG did you hear it
Oh I fucking heard it
I'm not going to lie
Kuro is him
Kuro is him
You're spitting a lot of
Fucking facts right now
Before I get into
This content shit
It's rough to be a
Grail out here
It's rough to own
A Grail NFT
Especially
I mean unless
You're an Izuki
But didn't the
Fucking D-Gods
Just sell for
129 thousand dollars
Yeah and what content
Did they make with that
D-God that they bought
For 129 thousand dollars
Kuro god damn it
They don't have a
God damn product out
They have nothing
Get a bean
Get a fucking bean
Get a clone
Get a bean
Put them together
Make content man
Holy actual fuck
Kuro's him
I want to hear
I want to hear from
Someone who
These two people
Make some fire content
And I want to say
What's up to them
We got Demon
And Flurry up here
I want to give
The mic over to Flurry
He was up here first
I want to go over to Demon
Flurry my brother in Christ
How are you man
We're doing good
Thank you Kuro
For the inspiring words
I really want to be now
Like my content
Is fucking mid
Like I made like
A shooey video
In the gym today
It's probably gonna run
For like 10k plus views
I did that shit
In like 5 minutes
That video was filmed
On my fucking
It was mid
That doesn't make it mid
No but like
What I'm saying is
Like OG's over here
Like oh I need
Like a Sony ZV1
To like film my content
Dude just take
All right Flurry
You know what
Fuck off bro
I'm gonna drop a video
Tomorrow Flurry
And then you're gonna see
Let's see it bro
Let's see it
Let's see it
I've been yelling at you
On FaceTime for a month
About this now
But yeah anyone
Who's listening
OG included
Just start filming shit
Or just start making
Dumbass videos
And people will like
Them no matter what
As long as you
Put yourself out there
You can have your
Bean fucking shaking
Like whatever it is
And like people
Will like it
That's all content is
My content's like
Mid I just post
That's what hits
Yeah we're going
Straight to demon
That's what hits
And enough from me
Mr. Golden Bean
I know you heard Kiro
I know you heard Kiro
Talking about the fact
That he's looking
To pick up a golden bean
One with lightning eyes
How does that make
You feel demon
What's on your mind
Mr. The golden bean
Finally I get the mic
The golden fucking bean
Damn right Eddie
You know I'm not just
But yeah I just wanted
To respond to Shiv
You know I feel you Shiv
I know you're coming from
Where like yeah
Don't buy my PFP
Where Shiv was saying that
No buy my PFP
Buy a golden bean
That that's you know
That's a good decision
Like Kiro said
You know it's something
That really does help you
In terms of content
In terms of connections
And a whole bunch
Of other shit
And it's just the honest truth
And that's why you will see
Like even if you get
A regular bean
Like these people
Are fucking loud
Every single one of them
And there's a reason for that
It's just that
The community
The people
And the vibe
That you get
Is really really different
And you know
I can personally
Test to that
So it's been great
I bought some Riz
Made some money on that
That was fucking insane
I've been trying to
Find someone
Who would want to trade
For a golden bean
Or for a couple beans
So I'm like
Trying to get
A hold of a bean
Myself dude
Yeah don't worry
Riz that shit
For fucking
It will sell within
Like 72 hours
And buy a goddamn
Golden bean
Nah I had it
I have a listed for five
It hasn't moved in
Which is fine
It's like I was
Mentioning earlier bro
It's just tough to move
Rare kind of shit
You do have the
Chloe glasses
And the crown
Yeah and it doesn't mean
Doesn't mean I'm
Bearish on Utes bro
I'm just trying to
I've been wanting a bean
And like I could always
Get another Ute bro
It's not a big deal
People forget
If you sell something
You could always buy
Another one bro
It's not a big deal
Well let's keep things rolling
I want to hear
Bro it's gonna sell
And you're gonna be sad again
You don't have a crown
And then you're gonna
Go around tweeting
Who got a crown
He's a big boy
He's a big boy
He'll be okay
What about you man
Yeah what up
Yeah I mean
We live in an era
Literally makes
Content creation
It just opens
To using these tools
To our disposal
If you're not using it
You're sleeping on
A lot of great ways
Push your content
And make it better
Whether it's
You still record
In real life content
There's literally an AI tool
That will cut up
Your video for you
And every little cutscene
And add it
Maybe you have to
Make some adjustments
But it can save you
So many countless hours
It's not even funny
So if you're sleeping
On using AI
And different AI tools
For content creation
Or even to generate content
You're really messing up
It's just started
You see how quick
This stuff moves
It's not even funny
And the other one is like
Don't be like
Me learn from
Your shadow bans
Because every time
I start crushing it
With content
I get shadow banned again
So I have a way
Better strategy now
Where I think
I can easily hit
2 million impressions
Every month
And that's the other thing too
Like stop siloing yourself
To just web 3
Like please branch out
There's a lot of
Different niche categories
You can do web 3
And sneaker heads
Or whatever
But just branch out
A little bit
Because impressions matter
It's not all
Just about web 3
Web 3 is the web
Just remember that
Web 3 is the web
Added capabilities
That we can use it for
So use that
To your disposal
And you know
Connect with other people
Where you find a niche
That you're passionate about
2 million impressions
From you Habibi
I want to know your strategy
I mean for anyone
That doesn't know
What Habibi's been doing
He basically goes on
Mid Journey
And asks Mid Journey
For a different type of shoe
And posts it
And it's working
So when Flurry was like
Hey my content's mid
Just because you don't put
A crazy amount of effort in
Does not make your content mid
It just means that
You've just like
You've created something
And some things will hit
Sometimes from what I've
From what I've noticed
Sometimes it's just like
And timing
Vastly more
Than it is about
Say quality
Like it's about
Catching it
And catching the ride
Obviously you want to put
Quality into everything
Like you might catch
Someone's attention at first
But if you want to keep it
You have to deliver
Actual quality
And something worth
Listening to
And something worth
And something worth
If it's a thread
But if you want to
Catch their attention
It's not always about
Making sure it's perfect
Or making sure it's like
High level quality
It could just be
Good enough
And with the rate of
How fast you have to
Get a lot of the stuff out
Just pump it out
If it's good
I wanted to add to that
A little bit
Before using any AI tools
I tested a bunch of
Strategies out
On different content creation
And like yes
Some of it was mid
And that's okay
And I learned from it
And just continue to adapt
And at night
Especially
We test different strategies out
With a different market
Completely than the market
I usually tweet to
Just to see how
Different tweets would work
If your content's mid
AI won't help you
Because then you're just mid
So you know
Learn, adapt
And see what sticks
And what works
And at the same time
Have fun with it
If you're not having fun
It's not going to be sustainable
And you're going to burn out
And you're going to
Not want to tweet anymore
Or do whatever it is
That you're doing
So make it
Interesting
Like all together
Like you can't just
Have fun and do nothing
Build while having fun
And making a difference
That's how I'm trying to do this
I need to take a page
Out of Jonah's book
Mentioned Runway ML
And I checked into it
And it looks
Very, very interesting
I just haven't really
Gotten a chance
To mess around with it
In part because
The first time I tried
To mess around with it
It just didn't work for me
So I just kind of
Put it to the side
But I have to step back in
Because I definitely
What I want to do
Is I want to take
Videos of me dancing
And put like
Or something
And you could
Definitely do that
I saw someone
Hantau did it on his
YouTube channel
He was talking
That's not Runway ML though
That's rigging
You need to go
Yeah but you don't
Have to rig it
You can have a group
There's a group
Called Holograph
Or Hologram
Hologram Labs
Yeah they'll do it
And they're really nice
They'll have it
All rigged up
And then you download
A software
And then it overlays
Or Streamlabs
Is what it's called
Well that's
Definitely different
Though than what
I want to do
Which I can get
Into that later
But right now
I'd rather get
Into some of these
Hands like
Ash how's it
Going dude
Yo all good
I was just gonna
If I get a bean
Will I get
The same attitude
Cause I'm in man
I think a thousand
Five hundred
Would worth it
Other than that
Like I don't know
Man I'm not like
A content creator
But I do write
Some tweets
To share some
Knowledge that I
Come across
Or like from
Experience and
But I feel like
What's that
I said that's
Whether you're
Writing threads
Making videos
Having pictures
Yeah I guess so
I think like
When it comes to
Like knowing
Your audience
I don't think
Like that type of
Let's say content
Is that much
NFT crypto
You're probably
Gonna get more
Engagement by
Posting something
Or you know
Some shit coin
Or something
That you just
And you know
Whoever's trying
And interact
And retweet
All that shit
You can have
Like I mean
If you're doing
It just for
Engagement
There's way
Easier ways
To go about
Delivering
Some value
Better off
On linkedin
Or something
Different ways
Of packaging
You're saying
You're saying
Like you know
Quote unquote
Doesn't convert
Well on twitter
I get your
But I think
The reality
Is more so
The packaging
Like you can
Package some
Really insightful
And and very
Interesting stuff
Into content
Forms that are
Much more palatable
Or much more
Acceptable by the
Wide audience
Such that they
Actually perform
Well on twitter
And actually perform
Well on their
Specific niches
I mean we have
Easy in the
Not asking him
To come up
If he wants to
But the guy
Some of the
Highest quality
Content in
Terms of like
Actual informative
And while also
Being very
Interesting
And it performs
Well and it
Doesn't perform
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It performs
Instagram reels
Platforms as
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I'm subscribed
To easy on
YouTube and
I see this
Motherfucker's
Videos every
Day and he's
Killing it
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In part because
I follow like
I think I'm
Subscribed to
The parallel
Channels but
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Shorts like
Shorts feeds
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It's just a
Nice reminder
Always fun
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That's like
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most people like whenever someone like dms me i always say like okay like here's a tutorial to go
watch you're gonna want to quit like 15 minutes into this because the ui of like final cut and
like premiere and da vinci are so so daunting that it's so easy to be like this is something i'll
never understand but like you just have to understand like the software is there for like
you to make use of and you don't need to use 100 of it all you need to learn is like the 15 to make
a really decent video and then once you master that like you can start like adding in the other
parts and it comes really easily like i don't think editing videos is that hard to be honest
with you and there's so much content in web 3 to make videos about it's almost like there's way too
much that i can like handle everything myself so like i think there's a lot of room for people to
just come in and like absolutely start killing the video game man can i just bring like a recruiter
perspective real quick like just like a framework like how like and i'm not trying to make simple
of what you do because what you do is is awesome but just the framework of basically what he just
said is you can build a skill and make money or you can build a skill that makes money with
consistency effort and time like that's the that's the magic pill like that's the shortcut to the
shortcut that everybody wants it's just like patience and belief and confidence and then boom four months
later we're all like holy shit i just wanted to mention how like simple he broke that down
i i am just actually amazed by four months because i i've spent quite a lot of time video editing myself
on premiere and i know that it's like what you said when you're like i just sit down and just don't
stop until it's done i've had moments like that for sure with premiere because like i like it i'm just
not like as in love with it as maybe some others are but i've had moments like that and it's like oh my
god uh i think the quality that i just output in one day is vastly different than what i used to put
out and just because i actually tried um so yeah i four months dude though that's that's next level
props to you it's absurd tally you're killing it man yeah no i appreciate it and yeah like that's the
thing was like i've like watched like i've been a youtube maxi um since like day one of youtube like i
used to love like equals three and like live lava live like i don't even know if anyone in this space
knows about them but like i love like the early early content creators on that platform like
before there was any like premiere pro or like quick cuts or memes like i've just like grown up on
youtube so like i think that is honestly like the biggest thing i have going for me is like
i have like a list of creators in my notes that like it's like 150 plus that i just always like i i
watch a video and i take like five notes of like oh i really like how they did this i really like how
they added this sound effect i really like how they added this effect and i like scroll through
that all the time and i pick like five and i'm like okay i'm gonna put these five in my next video
and i just learn how to do them like i again like i don't think like video editing is like the craziest
thing in the world um and i also think that like if i can learn in four months i guarantee someone else
could learn it at the same exact level in two just because i'm kind of slow at some things but
yeah i think uh video has a bright future in web 3 for sure so your your skill set is like see dude
not not so much sit in front of a sit in front of a lesson 13 chapters in and then go recreate it's
see a little bit see how you can recreate it do it see a little bit like it's it's study and execution
study and execution yeah youtube is so incredible man you can learn so many valuable skill sets i did
it to teach myself how to code i did it to learn about how to build out like e-commerce stores like
i've done it to like learn about real estate like anything and everything under the sun bro like
i used to be copy pasting youtube videos on my myspace page in like oh six bro so i've i've been a huge
youtube maxi myself man there's nothing you can't do you know what it each uh you know what it didn't
teach 13 14 year old eddie didn't teach 13 14 year old eddie anything about women anyway i want to
hear next from the hands uh let's let's keep things rolling double what's on your mind
um yeah i had two points to make but you just threw me for a loop right there uh yeah uh so okay yeah
yeah so i wanted to touch on what og said because it's something i'm dealing with right now so he's
like you wake up and you got the early morning show and then just you just kind of find yourself
every increment of the day you're just like on every show i don't know how i got to this point
but like it just pulls me in i'm just i keep telling myself okay don't don't listen to spaces
just go do something else and next thing i know i listen then somebody has a bad take and i gotta
jump up there and next thing i know i'm on every show throughout the whole day and i'm like you know
it's getting it's getting a little overwhelming but what i was going to say is like i think it's like
you could spend three hours on it on a thing and it feels like everyone's talking about the same
thing but i feel like we we don't really get that much content out right it's even if you're on every
space throughout the day everyone's talking about it but you never really get you know that much time
to put your your point across right so maybe you go to the next one maybe i'll get i think we need to
work on some of the formatting of like some like po show was pretty good like um rug radio like how they
set up their formatting just to get the information out quicker i think more spaces need to kind of
like um work on the formatting as well and how to get the content out but i really do feel like
to me twitter spaces isn't like the content itself i feel like it's almost like uh like an all hands
meeting for like the nft echo chamber right we're all in here and we're all discussing the topics like
it's like we're all discussing everything that's going on and from there is where you get content to go
out to the world and bring it to the rest of the world like tally would maybe listen to spaces and
maybe he's not talking but he'll hear he'll he'll hear a bad take from digital for example
or from jonah and he'll be like those guys don't know what they're talking about let me make a video
and uh and even gogo maybe sometimes gogo has bad takes and we'll clip her terrible take and then
we'll make a video about that right so you know that's how i'm waiting i'm waiting double i'm waiting for
that all right all right i mean but i don't make the videos but maybe i'll talk to tally
recruiting my bestie to make a bad take video of me whoa that would be pretty that would be some
solid content so we can make that happen uh but you get you get my point um i just see i'm just
trying to get fidget to jump in and say something so we can clip it but yeah that was my point that
that was my two points i gave him i gave him a break in the airtime and he didn't do it i
it's oh my god now i'm blanking oh yes i loved i actually loved it for once amazing take double
on the point of these spaces feel like an nft all hands meeting like that's one way to categorize
this right because we'll we'll come together we'll talk um and it's oftentimes it's the same faces like
there's i love all you guys but man it's it's just all the same ones every single time and it's
like it's also like it's also like the arm the armchair quarterback idea right like oh yeah oh yeah
frank and all the dude i'll tell him everything i'll tell him i'll tell him who to fire and who to hire
like i'll tell him every nook and cranny of his business uh but i've not run one you know yeah but
but people in in frank's team do that right like if they have a meeting and they discuss like the
strategy right and he has a butcher on his team that'll probably tell him hey i don't think this
is a good idea you know you're brainstorming ideas i feel like that's what we're kind of doing
together even though we're not in the same company but that's sort of how i approach it so i don't
really take it as like yeah yeah i mean i don't really like if i'm fun like we call it fun right i
don't see it as fun i just feel it's like constructive criticism in like a fun way and sometimes
we're like rude to each other but that's like part of the entertainment like it's all combined
together it's not just like a boring like boardroom we're like oh you raise your hand oh i think this
you know we're doing it in a fun way and some people get upset but that's part of the drama and
everybody loves drama because that makes it fun right and as long as we don't take it personally
which obviously people will but like you learn to get that thick skin and then eventually it's going
to help build the it's going to help build out like the the industry in itself because it's creative
right it's a creative market someone said where this shit coin with jpeg's totally bad take like
it's a lot more than that it's art you know it's like business there's art behind it it's it's a
non-fungible token i mean there's so many bad takes no no i'm not gonna i'm not gonna agree that
that's a bad take that's definitely the correct take how is that correct take eddie well just check
blurt let's keep things wrong so why is it fungible and non-fungible right now why would
it be fungible and non-fungible if they were the same thing let's not dive i mean that makes no sense
well it might not make sense to you but it makes sense to me how i want to do different things
that's like saying hold up anyway
the code the hosting towers are strong i'm gonna keep things rolling i'm happy to discuss that
uh for sure double and i will defend that point but not right now there are other hands that i do
want to get to uh more on top now death i'm gonna start with you we're gonna roll you and then
what's going on good to see you one of my favorite race car sap seals of all time what's going on i was
like race car i'm not getting it then i realized checkered flag yeah i got no i got it now exactly
uh but yeah thanks for having me eddie love you homie as always uh tally i appreciate you being
humble about um the video editing experience um as somebody like i've been editing videos since i was
like 13 12 or 13 like i learned in like middle school and same same background you know have watched
youtube and everything from the very beginning um i've had a successful channel and stuff and
content creation like platform uh in the past and it's it editing is easy um like like tally said
like the ui is the the first thing you see uh and it's cumbersome but once you get past that
the editing part's easy the execution part is what's hard when you start to realize there's different
things formats that can grab people's attention keep them watching throughout the video um that's
why there's been tons of like philosophies and stuff that people come up with like tell people
to subscribe within the first 30 seconds or uh show a preview from later within the video that will
get the hook so people will watch until that point at the very least to have a higher retention rate
um also i agree with the take that uh you know i don't believe there's a niche too small as long as
there's a large enough audience for it i've learned that throughout my time uh doing youtube and stuff
like that as well is you know the larger ecosystem now like generally like a person that would do like
let's plays where they record themselves playing games um it's kind of it would be hard to enter that
market um just because there's so many people so many people to watch but what a lot of creators
have done um they found the niche within the the market they wanted to find an audience in
they've done tutorials for like games that they're passionate about and then they've transitioned
that into them playing so they've kind of levied themselves in an audience or i've known people
like even like micro niches for like uh like etsy sales and stuff like you wouldn't imagine you know
how many people have dogs but some people really just love their breed of dog so somebody could make
a hundred thousand dollars making you know signs or t-shirts for just pitbulls so nfts are the same with
that i don't believe anybody that would say like nfts are too small to not have success on youtube
would you see the same turnout or the same audience um or like the same reception as some of like these
more hotter topics or like that has a bigger interest no but you'll find a dedicated like demographic
that's interested in that content so as the the ecosystem or the you know the web uh web three
sphere evolves um you'll be like the onboarding like you'll be the the the algorithm that's being
pushed to these people because it's like yeah this guy's like the authority of web three video editing
he's doing content creation specific towards this so as new people get interested or search these topics
you'll be at the top of the results you'll be in the recommended feed um and that's what i think
especially web three creators should be practicing right now especially with like future um features that
elon's going to roll out with twitter like i'm very very bullish on the idea of twitter rolling
out video content i just think they need like a dedicated space a drawer or a tab where you can see
video only content where you're not seeing tweets and i think elon even tweeted that and tally you might
have uh probably had that same inquiry i think elon tweeted that recently that that's going to be a thing
um which is major um but for anybody out there it's not like being an artist so like it doesn't
take that long to just get the idea or like the the basic toolkit to start making videos and the more
you do it the more you practice you can start to engage to see what people like and like especially
in the youtube space they've always said like your first thousand videos are like you um you that's you
creating that's your learning process it's you're getting your editing style you find out what works and
it doesn't work and so in a bear market like this perfect time to start just even if it's a shitty
edit just start practicing build that muscle memory up find out what people like um um and what people
you know what gets more views and stuff and then build upon that you know uh you'll build up your own
repertoire so i just want to encourage people to get into content creation um it just takes a little
bit of effort up front but then the rewards are numerous uh down the road so uh if you're interested
try it and watch youtube on it try it now that's that's like the hardest part is just getting
people to try and why uh with og who was on stage earlier why it's so much about just like just make
the video even if you don't have the camera the camera i have a beautiful camera sitting maybe you
know like two two feet away from me not two feet like six feet away from me i was trying to say two yards
um and it's not being used right now probably should be being used right now but it's not like
the camera itself is not going to be what determines the quality of your content it's just an upgrade
it the base level you know output is of your own volition fidgel what's going on dude how's your
wednesday treating you it's been a it's been an interesting one um but i can't talk publicly about
it yet but i will um to the um oh i will i'll sing like a fucking canary um i love you fidgel
thanks dude uh i'll bring two acronyms real quick um and i think this is gonna this correlates back to
uh the conversation about kind of like the repetitive nature of crypto twitter and content and
and absorption and actually goes back to tally's uh reference to youtube and and instead of being
fed content absorbing content right there's a difference uh one is one is what is given to you
and you use metrics like how many people are in there who's in there um am i gonna get followers
there's a whole bunch of things right and then there's just the informational portion which is
what tally was referring to right you can go to youtube you can get anything the fuck you like
literally you said real estate i learned real estate from just talking to my friends and been
like yo i like how do i what does a cap rate mean what does noi mean what does goi mean what is
and and learned on the fly i i have two acronyms and i think it kind of sums this up it's gas and msn
i love msnbc actually i don't really love msnbc but um nobody loves gas um i'll use the msn first and
i think this will kind of uh tricate and create a hierarchy within with which um you guys are
not you guys everybody in this space has an unavoidable lens right so there's uh msn so there's
not going to make it which is n ngmi there is uh smn i some gonna some gonna make it sgmn some gonna
make it whatever the fuck it is and then there's mgn whatever the fuck it is mgn i uh many gonna make
it and it correlates to uh uh e roosevelt's statement of this goes back to gas small minds speak of people
average minds speak of events great minds speak of ideas so what you're seeing is and you can actually
watch this happen in in in real time you're watching different influencers different hosts
talk about small mind shit people right and here's the problem you all talked about we got 20 there was
2500 people in that space i'm sure a lot of people thought i was funding bitcoin baddies i was actually
just talking some truth right um and i wasn't talking about people i was talking about ideas
i didn't even talk about the event i i wasn't asking about whether the the coder uh told you x y i was
just talking about ideas the idea of if you launch a token whether you had that intent or not is
semi-irrelevant as to the actions that were taken accordingly what what we're seeing is and what we're
being what we're i don't actually go to these spaces so but most of the people are being take
swindled by is the idea of people at at the course level right that was a people conversation
most of most of a lot of other people that that are trying to corner are talking about people for
their own people event right those are small minds we then talk about events right so a lot of people
talked about ryan carson they talked about this person beanie but that is the the rut the
core the current of why most people are ngmi not gonna make it it's because they're focused on
the insular the small the small mind right and then we have we have mid-tier we have people talk
about events we have people talk about and we can identify who those those hosts are and i think you
can if you put the pieces together kind of understand it the people who are talking about ideas
don't run into that that that quandary that conundrum that you you've been referring to
there is no repetitive conversation throughout a day if the conversations are about are about ideas
and they're talking about what is the technology what is the community organization what is the product
what is the product market fit what is the realistic uh expectations of being able to provide
a product or a solution within the ecosystems both web 2 web 3 web 2.5 and otherwise and i think that's
what people get lost in they get lost in the entertainment of the first two and the some that are going to
make it in level two are usually the ones peddling the information you know digital i think i think the
hardest part about that is what you so when you when you talk about like let's say let's you know let's
split it into three different minds right like small mid and and big brain right sure um small brain
will hit more people because even the big brains are all even the smartest people do like a little bit
of drama right like here and there um and last night you hit everyone like that was probably about
just about everyone who was going to go on a twitter space last night went to that one so that's like
roughly 2500 people and then you then you i guess level up you talk about events and you you're reaching a
smaller niche because it's not going to interest everyone um because it's it's you know i guess a little
bit higher level right and that's when you're talking about events now when you talk about ideas i agree
with you i agree with you that there's basically an indefinite amount of ideas to talk about because
they're ideas and if the ideas stopped happening we'd have more like we'd have concerns that are
greater than you know the human race at that point uh so we have the ideas indefinitely but the problem
is part of what makes the conversations interesting uh is being able to bounce them between as many people
as possible or at least other well-informed or you know interesting and intelligent people
part of the problem at least with spaces specifically in their current state is if you
can't if you can't find the tie-in that makes the space interesting enough for enough masses to join
such that it catches the attention or just general interest of i guess you would say the high level
individuals so that they can come into your space and chat it becomes like a snowball if you can't if you
can't get enough of like the mid-level conversation and even low level conversation going such that you
funnel that attention that general attention in to the top where you can actually get idea-based
conversation going because you've brought in um you funneled in enough high level speakers and high
level conversationalists whatever you get the problem like do you do you get what i'm getting at
it's it's it's a melting snowball effect
and and i agree but i will i will stand by the idea that at the end so why so i'll actually use
homeboy's statement earlier right he said uh i've already by the time leap comes on the conversations
have been regurgitated 15 times right then why do people show up for leap space
i believe that it is an attempt to have higher level conversations whether whether it results in
that on on a consistent regular basis i i obviously it there there's a struggle as you just said between
attention right the attention audience which is people which is short-term children and high level
conceptual but people still stay in leap space for it's a fact people do stay in leap space for a long
time at high numbers and i believe that at the at the end of the day the the churn of people and events
does want ideas the fact the problem is and i think this i think this is a curb that's happening
is that ideas haven't panned out and i think we're gonna we're dealing right now with with a
a short-term pop in shit coins and that goes back to basically not going to make it in terms of who has
uh information asymmetry but i do believe that on mass that we are trending towards ideas and those that
will succeed in the long run and people shit on um on thread and stuff for doing that stuff but that
that is the long run ai is a tool ai based and built off a blockchain is an idea so i i think those win
i do i agree i mean oh i was about to say roads you have a point but i didn't mean to do that i was
like oh shit it's about to go down i was ready i was ready can you just disagree for the sake of
interesting no i'm kidding there's literally nothing there's literally nothing to disagree
what i just said it's it's how do you create cyclical evolution in a yeah a technological uh
space is understanding that the people drag you down the ideas drag you up
preaching to the choir let's keep things rolling go go i'm gonna start go go and then tally so go go
what's on your mind did you finish potting those plants yes although it turns out i'm going to need
to go further pot shopping pottery shopping what i don't know um my higher my higher intellect is not
engaged for this for these verbs and nouns sorry um no i i okay i scratch whatever i was going to say
earlier i'm just gonna uh dovetail off of what fidgetal was saying i do believe that the more
consistent long-term audiences will stay around to discuss ideas and processes and um creative intention
and just you know thoughts uh the philosophy of technology what we're here to do why why we stay
not just like the people we want to gossip about or the day's latest drama yes that will catch our
attention for about five minutes but the next day it's on to something else entirely it's not why
why we came to this space and that kind of gossip and drama is in every industry is in our day-to-day
lives it's not anything different um than what we're used to in any other corner of what we do
um on twitter off twitter on blockchain off chain um so i it's just it's just kind of a side effect of
being humans so we're going to find a way to talk about these things um it shouldn't be our main focus
for making content right or um having something to discuss it is it is i do think a
um an unfortunate side effect of having not enough innovation in um a slightly downturn market
right now um so anyone's failures are everyone else's entertainment which is sad it's just it's
it's a sad aspect of who we are as a civilization um especially in western society i think um so
that tends to happen like for example yesterday i was i was very busy i was out and about all day i
wasn't even going to get on a twitter space and yet i joined that one just because i knew who she was
from before she even became popular and i was like what is happening i'm so confused oh wow and then it was a
train wreck and sometimes you just rubberneck at things you shouldn't and i was guilty of that too
um so um like in terms of what i i've done as far as um you know holding conversations about ideas
is something i want to pick up again um i kind of derailed it in favor of something else that was about
ideas which was my podcast but i every week without fail every friday i hosted a space that was purely
for art music and poetry and conversations around everybody's uh contributions whether they were
posting them and and putting them on chain or whether they were just works in progress
and i think i mean a lot of people have been reaching out to me saying why aren't you doing
that anymore and um you know in with relation to what physical was saying that was all always an
outlet for like a nicely sized community of people to just talk about their process some people would
would actually find buyers in the space but that was kind of irrelevant it was more about just
sharing what you were going through that week and and your output your creative output for that and um
even if it wasn't like a space of a thousand people i think those types of conversations um tend to
have a more long-lasting effect in people's minds and hearts um as far as like what it can do for you
creatively and and and inspirationally to keep going in an industry where you are like passionately
committed to doing something that relates to your talents so um if anyone else is struggling with
something like that if you put it down and you're thinking should i pick it back up again i would say
do it because i think i'm i'm gonna do the same thing you call me right as i bit into a piece of ice
cream um but sorry but say bit into a piece of ice um it's like a frozen yogurt with
oh are you over there chewing ice cream bro that's be careful at it i knew you were a psychopath
of all things to make me a psychopath definitely not this um but i will say
you know to to kind of further develop the point about like people versus events and whatnot
um especially gogo you outlined it kind of nail on the head where coins get rugged basically every day
right so it wasn't like the event itself was novel it wasn't like this was a brand new thing like oh my
god how could someone steal money in crypto like that's definitely not new what was new was that
it was the first time that we basically obviously saw this person bitcoin baddies that
a lot of people were aware of um and very willing to dogpile on you know given the opportunity
because i guess her character people events ideas exactly exactly so and but i'm all i'm saying
digital is that was less event and more people exactly like you said earlier because again it
wasn't novel like the event itself was not novel but it was novel to see it from her and that's what
like brought a lot of people in but we've got a lot of hands here let's keep things rolling i'm
gonna go tally and then i'm gonna welcome hanta onto stage so tally what do you think yeah i think uh
kind of going back to what gogo was saying and what digital was saying um about like the spaces and
kind of what og touched on with you know people are kind of burnt out by the by leap space i think
that uh an important thing that a lot of people kind of forget too is like sometimes it's not
the flavor of the sauce it's like who made the sauce and i think a lot of people show up for personal
brands like i um i showed the thread guy space because i like thread guy i don't really know a lot
of the time especially when fidgetals on stage what the conversation is and i'm learning a lot but like
there's 10 spaces that i could be in that are probably talking about the same thing but i show
up to thread guys because it's thread guy hosting the space so i think personal brand at the end of
the day is like what wins the most and i think a lot of people feel the same way about leap like leap
does a very very good job at hosting spaces he does a very good space flow i think um i just think like
personal brand and like it's just irreplaceable at the end of the day like you just can't replicate
someone's personality in the way that they host the space um and that's why i think a lot of people will
still continually show up to the same topics just because again like what fidgetals said
about the ideas is is very very true but i think the personal brand added on to that um is kind of
like the the secret sauce if you will that's the same thing with like streaming and games tally you
nailed it people show up for the personality uh it's like why would i watch tim the tatman play
world of warcraft if uh you know dr disrespects on you know people have a taste in the personality and
that's exactly what they've capitalized on man i love t1 though what's his name tyler uh tyler one
oh my god oh i like that's my favorite he's like my doppelganger t1's fucking wild he's so funny
i love just watching him break shit more than anything hantau you're about to become my favorite twitter
twitch personality with that sappy same yeah what's going on dude yo
what's up eddie what's up rudo love y'all um yeah i actually don't stream at all so thanks for
saying that i'm your favorite twitch streamer uh really watch my content and know who i am eddie
thank you i said about to be about um yeah so here's my opinion okay um all the people in web3
that's currently making content is going to face severe burnout because we're still not at the end
of the cycle and for them to survive and really benefit from the next bull cycle or whatever that
gets them the views it's going to be really really difficult um because of how long it's going to take
and my other main issue with the majority of gaming creators is that they try to give advice when they
actually haven't worked in gaming and haven't worked in like user acquisition managing top creators and
they're in this little bubble don't talk about that oh no this is directly subtweeting jonah so
i hope you're offended jonah the level of offense is quite high yeah good good i should have said
double by the way i'm sorry um double doesn't make content he's just a larper apparently because we're
all here larping on a twitter space but uh back to my point um being is like a lot of creators in the
space don't actually have any experience and when they talk with other people and other brands
other creators they keep giving really bad advice it's like toxic positivity it's so true
hold on dive into that i'm curious like explain a bit more
um they just give shitty advice more subtweets honto they want you to roast me further honto do it
they need to win no no i'm thinking of what else to subtweet no no just then all right jonah respond to
it like what oh i don't know i actually don't think he's talking about he could be me
no this is definitely not a jonah category yeah he's not give toxically positive no honto and i
play apex all the time he like we roast each other where he's i'm in on it yeah i know it's not about
you jonah but respond just if it was about you okay well yeah i mean i i can't not agree with him uh
you know i i we talked to a lot of the same agencies because honto actually worked in gaming
and a lot of the agencies in web 2 really laugh at most of the creators in web 3 because most of
the biggest gaming creators in web 3 are not even like the biggest within a niche of a niche
in web 2 gaming and so you know content i talked a lot about how do we grow our content businesses
because i mean him and i both make content but we actually have businesses that's about other creators
right how to help monetize their stuff and the reality is um you need web 3 gaming content creators
for initial monetization and um deep content when it comes to like technical content but you cannot
use web 3 gaming content creators to actually sell the final product and and most of the um web 3 gaming
content creators they all get the same deal but they but they share their own they share the same
impressions so it's kind of like incest engagement because like i could go do a deal with one gaming
content creator web 3 and they'll maybe get i don't know 50 000 impressions on a post and then their
friend will go do it but they're sharing the same impressions like they're sharing the same backwater
it's kind of like it's kind of like when you drink a whole bottle of coke and you save like the last bit
of backwash for someone it's not it's not a meaningful amount of drink don't don't share that with me i don't
want it it's kind of like the way i think about it that's such a gross way of saying it but it's so
true my face right now yeah so um when you were talking about tyler one like my friend owns the
agency that works with him exclusively called proxy and when i was talking with him in new york he
essentially said like he doesn't believe web 3 gaming will be um close to where he can jump in until
like 12 to 18 months essentially and the shrapnel guys also work very closely with loaded the agency
that locked in the mixer contracts for ninja shroud and all those other people so when all these web 2
people like they know what's happening in web 3 they're up to date but they're not jumping in because
they don't see enough of a benefit so when they do all these people making content is gonna be
pretty much washed out but there is good news so so like loaded in particular because ponta and i know
the same person at loaded and when i was talking to him i know for a fact that like games like shrapnel
shrapnel actually is able to do this parallel is able to do this but most of the web 3 games
they'll offer exorbitant contracts to get a web 2 creator but the web 2 creators are still not taking
them so they have to go spend that money anyway so if you're a subpar gaming content creator you'll
probably make money for the next six months but the minute they start taking those contracts because
so now so for example one of my sponsors is stardust you got six months double yeah you got six months
double uh double time on it wait for what don't worry about it so um like the reason why web 2 games
haven't come here yet is for one very specific reason and it's it's um legal risk like extensive
legal risk uh no web 2 game publisher or game studio wants to manage any of the money because anytime you
you move assets into usd or any real currency or even a crypto you need something in web 2 also web
3 but they're not doing it but you need something in web 2 called the money transmitter license which
effectively is a a type of license that does give you some banking abilities there are startups in web
3 gaming stardust is one of them there are a few others the stardust is the one that backs our company
content and they go to each state and go through the money transmitter license um process i think
they have a license in almost 40 states now but if you're gonna make a a game work with real trading
assets you need a license in almost all the states and then you need a custodial wallet that will manage
it and and that's been the biggest problem but once that's solved which is basically web 2.5 gaming
it's not really web 3 but it's what it's going to be uh then those content creators may start taking
those contracts because all those big creators they make real money like serious money millions of
dollars a year they hire the best lawyers the best accountants the best managers um the agents take a
lot of money off of them and and they will not let them take those contracts um because every creator
has a has a staff of like 20 people around them that live off of them so it's every creator is a
business and it's a very risky business decision to take those contracts also i want to say i just
want to double on uh jonah's point this doesn't just apply to gaming creators as well like some of these
uh you know your favorite jerry springer web 3 host um they will get washed out when teams from web 2 or
content creators outside of the gaming sphere want to take over i've talked about this multiple times
not only in spaces but i've tweeted about it too like a lot of these guys putting real estate in
these guys just because they're here right now everybody talks about mass adoption but when they
come with a wave and an audience that's supporting them and then they learn the technology and they're
making better content and they're more personable and like they don't have like like the shitty reputation
that they've garnered like across this time and like have rubbed people the wrong way it's just
going to make that web 3 audience give them new eyeballs for a new creator there's going to be a
lot of um uh i guess a lot of team switching in that regard you know you could find a new creator that
has just appeared in web 3 you know six months 12 months from now uh and you'll give up on somebody
that you know has been rubbing you the wrong way for the past three months that's been here longer uh
so this happens with gamers do what be real with me uh just real real be real with me for a second
rudo and i we're gonna get washed out you think i haven't spent a lot of time with rudo um uh you're
very personable and you got like a a nerdy charm to you eddie so i can see new people being interested
in you um but i'm talking more of like the drama farmers uh you know specifically probably because
they're gonna go to rumble yeah and i can't wait for those people to rot because like they're not
producing anything of value anyway uh so those types of people i'm excited to see starve but uh
eddie i think you can carve out your own space there is one way to not get washed out well let's say
well gaming specifically like we know the way but this is for all of you like you need to not think like
a content creator first of all being being a content creator unless you're in the top one
percent doesn't even make a lot of money it's actually a fucking terrible job like like people
have this illusion that it's great to be like a content creator it's great if you're at the top
but it's it's pretty terrible if you're in the middle to like if you can bridge it if you can leverage
it into other opportunities it's great right so that's what i'm saying so like like eddie you can
have a ton of skill in a specific sector make content here on spaces and then when the real
creators i'm not saying you're not real one but i'm saying like the millions of used people right
when they come you can go work with them they'll do contracts with you because you know how to
navigate the space and they you know if you make millions of dollars a month on your content you're
like if you're at that level you will pay six-figure contracts to make sure you're doing everything by
the book if you have that skill and you still make content you can i mean i i categorize myself as like
a corporate type influencer my content particularly is not designed for mass market it's designed to go
get contracts with the creators that actually do have the retail market and i think that's what most
people here have to do because the honest truth and this is me included to a degree uh most people
here do not have what it takes to be a mass market influencer they just don't have the personality
or they don't have the skill set or they don't have the attractiveness they don't have and that's
not to say that they're ugly but they don't fit the mold of what of what people want and and that's okay
you don't have to be the you don't have to be the celebrity to be good or successful you can still
get paid this is what a lot of content creators in my sphere as well did is they became video editors and
some of them are the top editors from some of the best creators because they know how the algorithm
works they know how to do the hook they know how to keep people's interest but they just weren't that
personality for other people so jona's not discouraging you like you're just not going to be that guy
but you can be that guy for the guy so you can be the video editor you can be the web three kind of
escort um or like entourage to let them know like this is how you navigate these are the do's and don'ts
uh and there's a lot of value in that as well but you can become a big content creator doing that
because what happens is if you have again every all the best content is is grouped right that's
why the nifty alpha is performing very well and they get their hundred million impressions a month on
twitter is they're very good at grouping if you validate their needs in this space and you're making
content and you're making content that does meet their circle you can in a word uh tailgate uh that that
that level of influence and then leap into being a uh a niche creator in the mass market or being a
mass creator if your personality matches their group like logan and i always does that all the time
i always mention to people when it comes to content creating and and it could be anything right all forms
podcasts youtube tick tock uh twitter whatever twitch whatever it is like uh and exactly what you
mentioned jonah like a lot of people may not be cut out for it and if you're interested in it like
give it a shot but i think you'll find out pretty quickly like whether or not it's something you
actually enjoy doing because for the vast majority of the time you're not going to monetize any of
that either right it's going to take a very long time you have to build up the skill sets whether it
be editing or having presence um if you're doing video especially like i i have youtube i have a youtube
channel i have a tick tock i have like i have every all social platforms essentially minus like twitch
and i found out pretty quickly after a couple months of doing it that you know what that type
of content like isn't really for me and like some would say that i've i'm good on video i'm good at
speaking publicly i have a good i've heard i have a good face i don't know what that means but uh
it just wasn't for me so i think for those who want to give it a shot if you're interested in it
do it but you know don't go into it thinking okay my my main goal of doing this is i just
want to make like a bunch of money because there's very slim chance that you will there's a chance that
you could but it's just like the top one percent of like these content creators have either a been
doing it for years or first market mover or they're just incredibly incredibly talented and
just like had that it factor in a specific niche for example so also jonah i've got one last question
before i throw things to double um jonah do you think thread guy is attractive enough
i think thread guy is one of the few people who actually can survive the wave and has nothing to
do with his attractiveness it's that he's actually entertaining i agree most people on twitter spaces
are not entertaining and he's got first of all he's got the one thing that most of us don't have which
is he's got youth he's at an age where he can spend the next few years uh taking that risk
um he's got he does have the look he has the influencer look that for that gen z does appeal to
and um he's loud and everyone in gen z loves people who are loud for whatever reason
i think it has to do with the add because you can't like for real for real you can't yeah like
you can't snap out of your add until someone screams at you and i think that's why it works
dude i've noticed that too watching a bunch of like young youtubers you know because i've been on
youtube forever and seeing like you know these 16 to like 22 year old youtubers and i i was watching
some of my girlfriend and she was like she's like why are they all like screaming at us and i was like
i i don't know man but it's it's provocative it gets people going they love this but i don't know
i don't know i i do believe there's a possibility that if he keeps doing it in nft only content that he
will throttle his ability to make it mass market just because the the content format does not match
his personality he should be like in the logan paul crowd and like doing experience content like
he should be like going to a boxing match in vegas and then go to a party and filming all that and
like doing crazy shit i don't think that his personality matches the content type which is
well uh stupid trading and or sophisticated trading because i just don't think his personality matches
to that because the the people who trade are people who have money and people who have money
are likely not young and they likely don't like yelling anymore jim kramer like the well no no there's
there are some like that like a gen z jim kramer is probably like alex becker but he doesn't act like
alex becker he doesn't act like him so like i i think thread really needs to grow outside of twitter
keep doing the twitter stuff but he's got to go to events he's got to like have a crew with him he's
got to go to parties and and like he should be interviewing people on the strip he should be
interviewing people at like events he can still do some nft stuff but i think talking about nft trading is
in my opinion and it doesn't matter what i think because it's his life i don't think and
it talking about nft trading and meme coins is going to make him big i think he's got to switch
it up he he definitely resonates with like the phase audience i i can see him having like if he
has a strong team of people around him he could have like the web 3 content house type deal like
he has a lot of potential what they're trying to do that's what they're trying to do let's keep
things rolling i want to go to double and then vegan um so double the two of them and compton
is trying to make a content house i love them both but for fuck's sake what are you talking about
it'd be a great content house if he accidentally turned it into like a gang
dude i think compton's the most interesting part of the story
that's hilarious all right i i i get it i would love to keep going on that and i would love to do a
deep dive in compton uh but first double and then vegan by the way you won't believe this bullet
no they're moving guys guys guys guys guys their hands have been up for so long i have to get to
them double yeah i'm being very patient today so um i kind of disagree with most of what you guys
were saying um and here's why okay go figure uh hentau said i'm larping okay i think most web 3 games
are larping uh because most of them have failed and will fail in web 2 games right so they're coming
over here a they never made a game before and they added this as the road map in their nft project or
no you've never made a game before uh i've made plenty of games my friend that's what i do anyway
you know he made dookie dash before dookie dash was released i mean let's not talk about me it's
not about me okay this is about was it was it single was it single dash uh uh you want to you
want to talk poopy dash we'll talk we'll talk about it but you're a little seriously if you want to
i'm making a point i'm making a point i make games for a living that's what i do so here's what i gotta
say um most web 3 games are just web 2 games larping as web 3 right because a like i said before
either they never made a game before and they just jumped to it into it like pixelmon for example
they raise money and they're like their dream was to make a game but they never done it before
they got themselves into making games or they've made tons of games in web 2 but they all fail no
publisher picked them up they tried to launch them they failed and they said oh look at this space i can
go raise money or i can add tack on web 3 on top of this game that's already made and now i'll call
it a web 3 game but that's not really a web 3 game right i think this is a new category right and
to start to think that like when this blows up that web 2 people are just going to be able to jump
in here and take over and wash everyone out that has built the category from the ground up i think
that's not i think that's kind of dishonest or just not true in my opinion double here's a baby
playing fortnite i think they can figure out web 3 opinion no no no no no no no that's that's that's
crazy because you don't like i said a million times you really don't understand what web 3 is i don't
think if you're saying stuff like that because everything you guys are talking about has already
been done right it's like we're gonna make uh music it's like it's a good example it's like music okay
uh parties uh clubhouses uh whatever cartoons like those are just like david said those are
businesses that have been around forever like there's ways that you approach those businesses
in a traditional way you have to do it no matter what whether you raise the money the capital through
nfts right or in a web 3 fashion if you're not really integrated with web 3 and with the web 3
community you're just doing the traditional business and you're going to find yourself competing with
everyone else who's been doing that same business you want to go into the music business you're going
to have to right if you started as an nft it doesn't matter for you to push that you still have to go
through all the distribution channels the regular ones if not you're going to use the web 3 distribution
channels where there's nobody's there right so you're never going to get big until you go into the real
market you see what i'm saying so this is like a new category we're building here it's a new thing
and it's it's really started with art and art never really had a voice right and and art is a
creative medium right and you guys are all talking like corporate stuff like art and i don't think
you guys have you guys have been into didn't go to school to be creative you didn't i don't know how
many of you have but not everybody has gone to art school and studied all the arts did you go to art
school fine art yes i did fine arts drama right acting dance music those are all the arts when you go to
art school the first thing you learn in art school is how to get critiqued and how to critique other
artists and that's how you get hold on double can you dance i got out yes sir yes i can dance dance
i'm telling you i'm telling you i'm telling you i have experience i'm just trying to explain a simple
point is what i'm saying is like web 3 is a new category so we can't keep saying that oh web 2 is
going to come in and save the day or web 2 they're going to come no they're waiting for us to build this
out before they come in that's what i'm trying to say so anyone who's building right now just like
the cliche says like if you're building in the bear market you're you're being the content creator you're
the you're the influencer you're the one that's going to thrive when this when this actually grows
over time organically like those are the people that are going to be building in this because that's
the category if the category fails that's another story but if it does succeed the people that are here
now are going to succeed with it it's going to be harder for web 2 companies traditional
companies to come in and just take over your spot when you've already you know you have first to
market advantage but double if the first thing you learned in in art school is to critique other
artists i mean to me it seems like everyone here in web 3 has their phds in in art i mean they're
the biggest in the world web 3 is don't you agree web 3 started off primarily with through art
not my what the are you talking about started with crypto sorry nfts i'm talking about we're talking
about nfts not web 3 nfts yeah my view is that crypto people used used art as an attempt to gentrify
the blockchain via nfts well i mean after crypto right once nfts became i'm just talking about nfts
nfts started justin it's been a good year it's so nice to see you coming around to the conversations we
were having a year that's like picture don't stop saying everything i tweet about is something
that you said three years literally what we talked about a year ago that's we haven't had these
conversations before oh you just don't forget it it's the same conversation though people events
ideas i tweet now and fidgetle's just like you're welcome you finally caught up to me that like this is
the mode of interaction between me and fidgetle today it's been a year it's been a year of me saying
the shit that you're like now tweeting like it's like it's mind-blowing new new concepts are you
this this is how i feel about solana and ethereum so solana had the whole royalties discussion maybe
six months like they they they were like oh royalties are going to go to zero and then they
went to zero and everyone complained about it and then kind of accepted it and then they moved on
and then three months later if people were like what's going to happen to royalties and
and we're now seeing it with loans like loans took over solana for the longest time hontown knows
this he's been doing some he's been losing money left and right on loans with clay and sores and uh
and that that and that came
are you coughing on your fucking food again is there i think you died no that was my that was my
phone it decided to start playing hometown girl um because
but let's let's we've derailed let's uh your phone was not going to take you clowning on hand
tell like that yeah it was not yes double one question what is a web 3 game to you because the
only novel system here has been on chain games and they have a myriad of problems currently
it's not about having problems that's why when you yeah when you have problems that's why you
you solve them that's what you go into business for right but do you think that's what it is or
just i'm saying what is the problem you're solving with no no no wait double back up because
so much of what is wrong with what people do in web 3 is create problems that shouldn't have been
there in in the first place and make a business out of solving that problem so yeah but you agree we
have a problem i'm gonna say pause right there but do you agree that that we have that do you agree
that crypto solves a problem in general crypto and blockchain solve a lot of problems but creating
web 3 games that that are problematic um well let's go to the fundamentals go back to the
fundamentals okay no no no you're not gonna trip me up in this right now no no no because so much of
what nft businesses are founded upon are they're predicated upon saying look here's a problem we
just invented let's create five more businesses okay to solve this see this is part of the problem with
three is that we can't simplify it down to the basic she's just described layer two we just like
keep going on tangents about all this other stuff but let's just break it down to the core like the
the most basic thing blockchain solved what problem right finance right peer-to-peer
uh cash bitcoin i thought it was art no i'm talking about blockchain blockchain i'm talking about blockchain
itself was created bitcoin created blockchain right oh to solve a problem with money right yes or no
yes right yes we agree money security a few different things it was less about money more
of a libertarian thing but yeah no it's about cutting out the middle man it's about peer-to-peer digital
cash no it's a few a few different things keep no it's double the problem is the gaming don't
start this is so disassociation because we can't remember finance if we can't agree on the fundamental
how are we gonna agree on like the complicated stuff i'm so yeah so i'm disagreeing with you you
can't disagree with that that's the truth the double that it was double double do you do you
understand all right i was gonna step in dude i had to step in daddy ruto had to step in pull the
kids apart and get this rated okay all right listen up man we're gonna go we're gonna go one by one
started sounding like i had the goddamn national geographic fucking show on right now it was just
chaos in here all right so let's get to some hands all right um i don't know who's speaking
i don't know who's speaking but you can't you can't speak anymore we're going to hands now
all right yeah okay let's keep things rolling vegan what's on your mind i can't let this slide
i'm pretty sure double just called satoshi nagamoto satogi nakami just throw it up
okay all right before anyone else responds to that i had to pull the trigger we are going to begin next
got it good begin
and drop the ball oh my god yeah yeah not letting me keep rolling me yeah okay so i'm gonna i don't
know what conversation everyone's talking about it is pure gibberish so i'm going to take it back to
what we were talking about before we were talking about content we were talking about kind of like
the spaces arc that's happening and i'm definitely a like a in and out spaces user i just sit on my
computer i'm working doing stuff and then i'll pop on a space i can't like work and be on spaces and
participate though if like the work's hard i have to like i can scroll twitter and do it
you know and so i pop in all the time and i check on oh is it a good convo oh i'll rearrange work
i'll do dumb emails right now instead of coding you know because this is a fun space and uh there's a
couple things i noticed when i just like do not care about spaces that happen and one is they become
super insular of like the host just talking to each other so if you're not there every day i hop in
and it was just eddie and ruto saying ruto you're stupid eddie you're broke ruto you're poor
and it's like dude i i'm trying to come in here and get some offers like that and those are some
of them like the majority of the space is often so there's that problem there's a bunch that literally
are making content about content which we're doing now so that's another problem i have i'm like oh
what's going on with the nft game and they're just like god damn it no one's listened to us talk
about nfts and i'm like bro i'm i'm here to get some alpha here so that meta content about content
and uh the last is like i think this happens often is like people get in these groups they get
excited and after a while every space turns into a fucking monologue which i'm doing now and it's
just all of a sudden 30 minute rant the 30 minute rant it's not a combo and i see a lot of spaces like
go that way and die so i come from twitch all you know from friends are all twitch streamers we're
coders we're like a little bit of a weird category but then you know whatever i have gamer friends too
and one thing that in twitch that's super common i think we don't see as much except around like
what we're buying is metas there's always like okay twitch here's the new meta it's two people
streams okay here's the new meta one person who knows a bunch and one person who knows nothing
they're gonna do it together okay here's the new meta one person gonna be blindfolded and you know
just new types of ways of doing the content like just new show formats but like it's forcing them
making a little more strict and then one pops off it's a trend for a minute school for six months
someone makes a new one i feel like right now everyone's just like hoping to find the next best
community like oh pepe's hot cool i'm part of the pepe group well i'll show pepe and it's like
no one thinks of like cool here's a new short show format we're doing i mean something we'll try
that's it rant over thanks it's interesting that you mentioned um that people are making content
about content i love that you mentioned that because it's actually it's actually very true
and it's funny enough because those oftentimes literally doing it right now yeah like literally
but it's it's funny because that's what that's what gets someone speaking yeah what'd you say yeah
justin hop down hop down i'm gonna hop down and come up right yeah oh damn um i forgot what i was
gonna say anyways let's go over to hanto go ahead so i just bought a token called glizzy and no no no why
yeah um i think i'm gonna make some content about all the coins i got rugged on i think that would
actually do pretty well you can use that as a tax loss harvest like a write-off like make a youtube
video about it i bought all these coins uh so you don't have to well you see i would have to pay taxes
to actually write them off no hunt out hunt out shit coin tier list tier lists go hard on youtube
everyone loves a good that's true
they do pretty well on good like everyone no twitter tier lists do really well on twitter as
well everyone likes to to rank the the communities and they're like our communities a tier
yeah i think i wanted to bring something up too i think it's honestly a shame too because there's
there's there's a lot of really actually cool shit that's being done in the web 3 space or
blockchain space as a whole altogether and the only things that you really see on the timeline
are whatever the vast majority of people are talking about and very rarely is it something that's like
interesting or innovative or creative it's just like it's again it's like that echo chamber of like
what is getting the most engagement at that current time so that's what people are talking about
or making content around because ultimately if you're making content your goal is to generate
engagement from it and that is kind of a zero-sum game in my opinion like some of the coolest most
innovative shit is like the most under the radar shit that a lot of people just quite frankly don't
talk about like the fact that there's so much cool shit happening with like brc20 tokens and like
some of the stuff going on with ordinals and and like it's doing all-time highs with a lot of the
the cool shit that's happening i haven't seen a single space about anyone talking about that
besides maybe like trevor bitcoin and like zk shark that hit touches on it every once in a while that
stuff is fantastic and no one talks about what's happening with ordinals it's massive i know and
it's a shame man and like even because a lot of people look for alpha like on twitter for like
blockchain and web3 stuff and i try to go to like different places to try to find information that a lot
of other people who aren't stuck in this echo chamber are talking about so i'll pull up you know
reddit threads or i'll pull up stuff on linkedin or uh whatever it may be go sit the the youtube
search bar and try to find like cool like new small channels that are talking about interesting
things with blockchain um but the problem is is that if you try talking about it no one's going to
engage with what you're talking about because a they don't know what you're talking about and then b
it's not what everyone else is talking about so like the zero-sum game of like content creation
and like the engagement farming around topics that to me are fucking useless and like a waste of value
and like time um that's kind of the issue that we're seeing right now especially specifically to
nft twitter it's it's honestly it's the night is actually we're just just finished up a space like
about a half hour ago about the brc20s and there was actually a decent audience in there it's definitely
like a lot of like you know bitcoin maxi people but um though yeah because brc20s are pumping right
like they no one was in there when they were pumping and i and i'll i'll say this like the the thing
that's interesting for me or at least the the best spaces are the one at least for me are the ones
where it's like there's something topical so for example in the last two days been blend or blur lending
right you take that topical point and you convert it into let's say the financialization of nfts and
what that means to a greater extent right so like that's more of an idea concept and of course you
you can always bounce between and you could title the space something about blend or blur lending right
so that's like that's your grabbing point but then you can also spread the space into more of an idea
centric you know conversation and that's kind of how i like to run spaces there's also a reason why
like when you guys are hot in a conversation and deep in talking about something i won't come off
mute i'll just let one of you guys pick up because i just like i mean at least me personally i just like
listening to people talk and having actual conversations flow that's just let me ask you guys
a question and this is going to sound like it has a negative connotation but that's not my intent
um so if the if the adage that you know if you're not being sold a product you are the product do you
think that applies here so that like the non-hosts whether audience listeners and and and speakers
effectively are the product of uh twitter spaces yeah i mean yeah think about it this way dude i mean likes
retweets comments followers that's all a form of like social currency at this point right so you have to
think about it that way um so i actually agree with that kind of take and whether it's kind of like
it could feel like a pessimistic type of like way to look at it but um and the reality of it is like
that kind of is essentially what it is so you know justin i i spoke with jonah about this in dms
um there are a couple people that actually have recognized that they are like when they're not
hosting or co-hosting they are essentially the product um i mean there's a couple people that
transcend that i guess you would say but there's a couple people that have recognized that and i'll
use frank as the example frank if you are host of a space or co-host of a space and you see frank in the
audience frank brings listeners whenever he comes on stage but as a host or as like as someone that's
hosted frank you know that if you don't center the conversation directly around him as a speaker
or bring him up to co-host or whatever it's like he's not going to be there so if you as a host want
to have listeners in your in your audience and you want to bring frank up for listeners you better make
the conversation around him and that's just like how it works so yes justin to be honest with you i'll
agree like if you're off oftentimes if you're not a co-host or a host especially on stages where they
like there are some hosts that they'll just bounce between them and the co-host and that's almost
exclusively it you are a stage prop and i often like i've left stages like that because it just gets
frustrating so wait wait you're saying when frank comes on stage then now the host is the customer
yeah actually the customer of frank no no 100 like if frank comes if frank comes into one of these
rooms if i want to keep him in the room i have to at least mention him or at least get like him in
the conversation or he's gone that's how it works um but let's keep things rolling i want to welcome
a new hand on stage actually click i haven't heard i'm gonna go click in bando because we have had
click for a while we haven't got to oh my god i was gonna have a freak out dude um no i just uh i like
this conversation even though it is like the content about content like it's kind of inane but like it's
i think it's important to have you know like vibe check types of things um um the uh but the
content around content has always like been king like i don't know i used to check out the like
live stream fails subreddit i don't know if anyone's ever been on there but it's it's always it's it's like
30 percent like incredible gaming clips or whatever but like the other rest of it is always just like
drama farming and and it's just yeah i don't know but uh the other the other thing i want to say
quickly is that if you're gonna make content whatever it is i think you'll have the best success if you
do it because you enjoy doing it first and foremost because like it's you know it's hard to get people to
like check your shit out if it's anything off like the beaten path you know it's it can feel like
pulling teeth sometimes and you know if that's going to be frustrating to you then you know just
need to like analyze why you're doing what you're doing um because like i personally make content because
i enjoy doing it and it brings me satisfaction and you know i try to share it and whatever but like it's
it's i'd be doing it even if i didn't have like any sort of audience uh so i don't know that's food for
some delicious food for thought you got thoughts no i was gonna say that i love i think the especially
the content creators that really that really make it it's those who do it um just for the sake of like
doing it right they make content or create threads or videos or whatever it is because
they genuinely either a enjoy doing it or by either making the content themselves they learn
far more about it also so like in order if you're going to start creating content whether it be video
form or uh or like static form and like you know threads or tweets or whatever it is um you have to
do a lot of research that goes into that and so like i know people who literally write like to do
threads like alex is building right he was just up here recently and i remember talking to him one
time and he's like i love doing it because in the process i learn a shit ton about what it is that
i'm writing a thread about and so and he just loves the process of it so and if you can tell like his
tweets do really well um and i think those who like succeed are the ones who like genuinely just
love the process of doing it then also one last point to uh make sure your content exists outside of
twitter make sure it exists outside of twitter spaces uh you know how many good moments have
just been you know lost to the depths of like twitter recordings that never get looked at again like
there's it takes work but like you you want to decentralize your content to you guys like we gotta
don't keep it all siloed within twitter because twitter can go away and you know good to have a
backup somewhere that i do that i personally need to do a better job of though i will admit um i've
been just watching this baby play fortnite that jonah pinned to the top of the screen and this is
incredible i cannot believe this baby is actually passable and it's a baby what the hell that's
actually so crazy i gotta dip out wow um peace click hi click see you homie that's also concerning
that the next generation is how to play games before they they're out of diapers dude i don't know you
know that's gotta be a video on replay right that's not the baby actually okay you know what go go we've
just been made the customers go goes right go goes so right we just got made the customers of that
video it is probably a youtube clip eddie no no no no no i i get it and it might be a youtube clip
but i've been watching the fingers and the fingers are actually tracking like whenever the gun is being
pulled i'm seeing the trigger being pulled like i i'm not i'm not convinced that it's a youtube clip
i need to watch it vando on your mind welcome to the stage yo what's up eddie rudo everyone um i was
just raised my hand because the last two speakers um before clicks were actually speaking about
someone shilled a shit coin and rudo was talking about you know nothing really interesting going
on in the space right now it doesn't get attention and um eddie i know i'd spoken to you earlier about
it but i just came from the space where something was interesting and got me excited um and i know
jonah's in here so i'll show it it's a game called reaper's game it's like a shit coin but it has like
a game mechanic have you heard of this jonah yeah reaper's gambit i'm sorry so apparently it launched
nine days ago but and i've been shit coining here and there got a bag of pepe but been down on most
everything else and looking for something else interesting because we know nfts are
fucking dead right now or nothing interesting is going on and i came across this one today
dropped nine days ago i actually saw this artist before figure 31 and he created this like simple
on-chain game slash performance art where you have to transfer whatever tokens you buy you have to
transfer them to a new wallet after nine days or they become locked and you could transfer it to a
new wallet a fresh wallet a friend's wallet but you can't transfer it to a wallet that already had those
tokens so the token becomes deflationary and he said in the space today he's gonna like do some art
that goes along with it but um i thought it went with the current meta but someone's actually making
something fucking interesting instead of like trying to drop something off a stupid name um
like i don't know if it lasts forever but um i thought that was cool and i'm on the lookout
for people and just you know introducing different tokenomics that haven't been done before especially
from artists um in this space so one of the shots shot that out see he gets it jonah he
gets what a web 3 game but a real web 3 game is no come on john sounds like you see how he didn't
hear about it right because he's he's just did you hear about it dude i didn't hear about it i'm in
this space every day so so well i'm saying all right sorry i didn't mean all right i didn't mean to
take a jab at you jonah i know i'm just i appreciate you bro so here here's some on-chain games that i
care about okay go ahead go yeah shattered eon shattered eon's actually an interesting on-chain
game made by a real game developer uh you have crypto raiders which is made by one of the people
on nifty alpha they actually created a circular economy and used 100 of the funds to create a
several hundred thousand dollar prize pool and he used was one of the first on-chain games to use ai
for all the assets so he used mid-journey and several other ai tools cyber stadium not crypto
whatever cyber stadium this is second game you know but you know which one i'm talking about
and then there was like another one i just got i don't i have to look at that one but there's
only been like three or four but most of these look like dungeon dungeons and dragons role play
games they're not um dexterity based they're they're finance games i mean you also had the
sheep's wolves one which is okay but i didn't care for that one right but it's not it's not about the
graphics it's not about no it's not right now it's about the underlying tokenomics that's what
these won't be mass market these are not yeah but right but right we're still building out
the tokenomics that's how these are these all idle games uh they're idle in a way yeah but you
you basically strategize with real money so it's a form it's a it's a mix of gambling with idle and
and using smart contracts as like the game moves yeah right now i mean look there's room for
both what you double and jonah are speaking about like you know on chambers this is the most rudimentary
and i don't even know if it's a game as much performance art you only have to do
set and send your tokens once every nine days that's it i just thought it was something cool
with the shit coin meta so you you just you just play hot potato with exactly hot potato yeah yeah
it's dj that's a cool game hot potato was always a great game yeah we're all we're all playing it
man uh in nfts so it's true yeah we're all playing it i haven't wait guys wait bando you described this
game double you said this is a real game to me it just sounds like these game developers basically went
from manipulating audiences to getting the audience to participate in the manipulation like they should
just call it stockholm syndrome like no so justin what he what double is missing is he he he's picking
experimentation for the sake of experimenting so uh cyber stadium is uh i mean it is gambling in a way
but there's rng based uh you have to like based on how you craft your player there's a lot of factors
to it it's more of an idle rpg where the moves are made on a contract basis and a money basis and
there's right but that's the point because it's not just that it's an rpg right that's the game mechanic
or the rules of the game it's not just about that right that you because you could just make any
game like that it it has to have some layer of blockchain or tokenomics or something
integrated into the game for in my opinion to be a real weapon but all all these but three games
are doing that wild cards doing that shrapnel's right wild card is a good one yeah but shrapnel
doing a token snapshot like they did it today like dead drop not really yet right dead drop what are you
talking about dead drop all right uh let's get back to the topic on hand um this i don't think we're
talking about what three gaming right now um let's get back to the topic here bando you were
mentioning that i think the original comment was that oh well you know rudo you mentioned that there's
not like that many cool things happening and then you you spoke about like that game for instance
right i think that's let's let's circle back to the original uh topic at hand which is um
actually you know what gogo i know you had your hand raised and i know you were in the middle of
everything so i want to hear um from you unless bando you had a rebuttal yeah yeah i i was just
gonna say i i probably shouldn't even have used the word game because that sends everyone into a
seizure and every twitter space um every it's a trick it's the number one trigger word it seems to
be in a lot of twitter spaces so i would say yeah more more performance art something interesting
that has cool tokenomics let's let's leave it at that uh reaper's gambit if anyone wants to check it out
i'm not on the team i'm not compensated but i always leap into interesting things in this space
that's that are different it's always this stuff that again and i mentioned this prior that it's
to me some of the most entertaining stuff is the ones that no one's really talking about that often
and it's really it really is a shame that a lot of the cool stuff that's being built kind of goes
unnoticed um obviously that's a testament to how strong their their marketing strategy is and it's a
shame that like a lot of these really smart people don't have like that forward-facing personality
to like for instance come up on twitter spaces and like be a big personality or write tweets that are
engaging for example and then like whatever it is that they're building goes completely like under
the radar um and like it it sucks exactly and that's the case with this guy he's he's literally
an artist he's made successful generative art in this space um already and i'm already blanking on
his name although i said it but yeah figure 31 yes figure 31 thank you he doesn't even have there's
no website or anything for this game some guy just like made a dashboard for it but it's all
on and he just put it out sorry not a fucking game this thing it's a it is a meme token an alt token
not a meme token an alt token with a mechanic that you have to interact with in order to continue
like reaping it because there you go it's a pretty slot machine yeah yeah um on that note like for
people that like you know contribute cool things to the space but don't get a lot of traction and you
don't end up hearing about it until later like i i was actually one of the things i was going to say
earlier um because that was touched on even before bando came up to the stage um putting notifications on
for like interesting quirky people actually um for me has benefited me a lot um i don't always put
notifications on for like the typical people that you know like oh they have the biggest spaces i better
have i mean i do have a couple of those on but for some people that just put out cool
shit and definitely not mine uh eddie um well i mean i'm sorry um but um like for you were saying
like man i never i never know when they're talking about ordinals anywhere like honestly just turn
notice on for trevor like or udi because they'll always be talking about that and the latest
and greatest developments on bitcoin no matter what so if if you want to be tuned into that before
it's hip and cool to be talking about it like today it was okay to be talking about brc20s on thread guy
space but yesterday people were getting booed off the stage for it you know uh i mean just just to have
notifications on for certain people and you'll you'll be up to speed well also i i didn't want to
interrupt earlier um but the whole thing for certain people like wanting to make the space about
certain figures who are really important like turning all of the spaces attention like for
example frank like that's not how many times am i going to say like in this sentence i'm sorry
that's not exactly true um uh half the time you'll scare people off like that frank especially because
uh he will want to sit there and chill and just see what's going on if you call attention to people
like him um right away that kind of like ruins his vibe to sit there and just see what's going on
unless it's a particular space where go go go go he's he's got all he's got alts let's let's let's let's
let's be straight i can't even hear what he's he's got he's got alt accounts he's coming in on his own account
yes true that's fair too i have a couple of results yeah and look go go i think i i think
what uh me and eddie something that we're trying to do as well like for instance if i'm interested
in talking about brc 20 tokens or whatever and you know like trevor and udi speak about it i mean
they both follow me and eddie as well so like something that we're trying to do rather than
trying to find this information we want to go straight to the source so like i'm thinking about
even just dming trevor and udi and zk shark like in a group chat because you know they they follow
eddie i mean they follow both of us so it's like we can just reach out to them and say like hey
um i think this is a topic that not that many people are either aware of or talking about at
this very moment like let's get you on a space and it all ties back into getting some value not for
not only for ourselves but for everyone tuning in too so i mean at the end of the day like we want to
make sure that we set ourselves apart from the kind of normal twitter spaces because there are
some really good ones but we want to make sure that the type of shit that we're talking about
is actually not just like we're not just farting out of our mouths yeah we're just like really farting
out of our mouths and talking about nothing burgers um like and wasting time bro like people understand
we're up here for hours like a night now monday through thursday and i'll be damned if i'm up here
talking about nonsense and bullshit when my time is valuable to me so like the it's important for me
to make sure if we're gonna be hosting for space these spaces for hours that we're talking about
something engaging fruitful and like informative and actually like intellectually fucking engaging to
me so that's important and that's why i love having people up like you go go and jonah and vigil
double justin hantau bandau i mean bando like death like this is all i love having you guys up here
because for me it makes me feel like i'm not wasting my time up here that's true i hadn't
thought about it from that perspective because we all do follow each other like like we were talking
about in that circle and i just haven't hosted in a while to be someone to be like hey can i get you
and come in my space for something but yeah like notifications on for for people you don't think
about normally is something that has helped me a lot so but with that i need to take a little break you
guys it's been a wonderful space uh have a great evening enjoy um and here's how we're gonna run
things for the rest of the space i'm gonna say hi to a new speaker dr pp gotta love it we're gonna
say hi to dr pp and then we're gonna go say hello to double so dr pp with and then of course justin to
round up the space i haven't seen dr pp in a while how you doing brother what's going on how you guys
doing i'm living large i'm living in los angeles ready for this good weather to fucking tap in i'm
feeling real hot working on a game we got a game release coming up feeling really spicy i don't
even want to talk about it how are you guys doing you guys trying to set yourselves apart from everybody
i like it i like it a lot of edge talk out here i dig it your pfp has similar energy individuals pfp
it has kind of actually a little bit a little bit we got the same energy appreciate appreciate
yeah yo for those of you who don't know dr pp man former animator for netflix disney nickelodeon amazon
um traditionally a very funny guy also uh dr pp i'm not joking man it's been literally it has to
have been months and months if not over a year since i've seen you up on twitter spaces man so
what's new man you moved to la is that what i'm hearing well you know i've been living in la for
quite some time but over the last few months i've just been uh going pretty heads down i think like
you know the bear market kind of impacts different people in different ways right but uh you know i
got hit by ftx pretty hard and that was just like you know it's like an existential moment right where
you're just like do i pursue what i've been working on for like the last year and a half or do i dip and
go back to you know my traditional sort of like uh you know the traditional industry that i'm a part of
but like uh now with all the signals that are out and there's all these studios that are dropping like
flies nobody's like nobody's got any work in the animation industry and uh you know i love what
i do and uh so i just went heads down for the last few months and been cranking pretty hard um i'm
really excited so like yeah i feel like uh coming back up here and just seeing everybody like back in
spaces again and the excitement on the timeline is back it's uh it feels really good uh albeit with all
all this uh banking uncertainty of course but uh yeah
no we love that man and i think this is that should be like not a lesson for those listening in
but just realizing how important it is sometimes to take a step back and kind of get your feet um
you know underneath you again and figure out what's going to be the next step like you don't have to
constantly be go go go grind grind grind like i know everyone says that all the time that's part of
like the you know the u.s culture for example but i love that you did that man and you're feeling
hopefully you're feeling a lot more you know up to the challenge and you're feeling better and
recharged and you're ready to go man well thanks man you know i will say what helped the most is
probably getting that bankruptcy proceedings email from ftx and seeing my you know my little number
that was like locked in the account and it's like okay there's a little bit of an edge here maybe i
can uh maybe i can get a little bit out of that you know uh maybe pennies on the dollar or maybe the full
thing because supposedly sam has found about seven billion dollars stashed away somewhere in the
canons maybe we'll see but yeah in his couch yeah he found it in his couch yeah we love that yeah
exactly yeah i i want to find six million dollars oh shit i i forgot about all this all this money
god damn oh damn yeah look i forgot about my money too this is crazy oh i'm back on twitter this is
awesome this feels great well look man we're glad you're you're back up here and um come around
come around more yeah yeah if you have anything more you want to add to the anything else you
ever want to add to the discussion man i think someone with your experience um uh with a lot of
things you've done in the past as well like there's a lot of topics you probably have a ton of uh
expertise on that we'd love to have you on here sometime so appreciate you coming up brother yeah for
sure man yeah i love the space this is fantastic thank you guys appreciate it good to see you dr pp
let's keep things rolling i'm gonna go double than justin so double what's on your mind yeah i just
wanted to say like i feel like artists and creative people need to learn have needed to learn more you
know about finance and business than traditional times and it's happening now and that's what i really
love about this space right uh the artists have the because most of the time artists rely on these
big companies to make the decisions tell them what to produce and they have to produce the same thing
because that's what the audience wants the broader right that's what they advertise so you're forced to
create things and you just do the art as a production means of production and as a job and you kind
of just hate the art you're doing and you're always doing the art you love on the side and you can never
get ahead with that and in this space you can create things and sell it to people that like your
stuff in a small niche and it's okay right and you can make even a lot more money than you could in one
of these jobs so i think that's one piece of this puzzle that like really attracted me here and i think
i hope we don't lose that right hoping that all these companies come in to try to bring it to the masses
when they don't really need to that's my only point so make content around like that notion or
maybe add that to part of the content it's like hey check out these artists they're able you know
it's not like you know the most cute thing that everyone in the world is going to love it's not
the next disney but hey it has a perspective as a point of view it's saying something has meaning
it goes beyond like it makes you think deeper than just like the next you know marvel movie or
whatever so so that's that's what i just want to say like let's make some content around that
fact okay w w take by double w take yeah mic drop i've got no i've got nothing to add
actually i do have something to add i will say i do i do think like a lot of artists are quickly
learning yeah right i think a lot of artists are quickly learning and this is both good but also
potentially like you know uh rough waters for a lot of artists that this space is heavily
financialized and heavy like business business heavy and business centric and there's not very
many guide rails or helping hands along the way or at least not many super accessible ones and with
that in mind like with that in mind like i think that's why you hear so much frustration from some of
the artists in the space uh because i i don't know i think i think that's why at least what i've noticed
double you got a thought on that yeah i just want to like add like um the music industry as a good
example right because i know we think about artists like fine art but you see this happening
with more artists like learning the business more now with youtube and all the information available
to this generation like all the the older artists from the past have all got like crappy deals right
they lost their publishing they don't own anymore they're broke now artists are like understanding
the business and i think that that's the biggest piece of like um web3 to me it's like
it is about finance but it's it's not just gambling right it's understanding
you know how to deal with your finances what all these terms mean in terms of like you know the
financial structures and uh you know just how how to deal with your own finances and also running
businesses and things like that like you're learning all that uh firsthand without going to school
whatever you can learn these things on youtube right there's so many entrepreneurs now with like the
the rise of gary v right um there's a lot so more people are understanding of how to do these things
and gives you opportunity so like music artists i just want to say real quick you see it kind of
shifting where they're understanding now the business they know how to not to just sign their publishing
away uh because they can distribute distribute just distribute their art or music on their own through
youtube and creating content right they have but they have to do it themselves right so a lot of
people take the easy way out and say okay the record company will do it for me all i have to do
is make the music i don't have to put the hard work in like you know deal with the community uh launch
the website launch the smart contract like you have to put in all that work and only you know not
everyone is built to do that and we're going to see those people emerge like the franks of the world
the lucas of the world and all the other great founders that are here you know they're going to shine
and i think they're going to outpace you know the traditional uh entrepreneurs and and uh
influencers or whatever um in this category because they're putting the work in now so
well let's keep things going because at some point i do need to get some sleep some z's but justin
justin what's up yes it's actually somewhat related to double's first um comment which was
look we're we're kind of in a field here where there are storyteller they're supposed to be
storytelling brands right like you know these uh collections that should have strong lore um
primary cast of characters that you know most of us are wearing as pfps and if they if there are really
strong stories being told about um through a lot of these collections i actually think um the spaces
would be much more stimulating like if you can just imagine you know if there were space discussion
um or let's say there were black mirror episodes every single night and there was a spaces discussion
the next morning about those episodes like those would be probably some of the most vibrant
conversations because of how stimulating the content is in black mirror not just about like
plot summaries but like oh like how can this uh potentially apply to the real world etc and so
i'm i just am reminded by um i know storytelling and and you know is is subjective but um as some of
you know i i think uh some of the best storytellers um that that merge collections with kind of uh general
takes on what's happening within web3 uh are the truth labs team right uh you've probably heard me
say before yeah the goblin town right well not and now they've outdone themselves recently right so the goblin
town launch in my view is one of the most creative go-to-market strategies i've ever seen put aside
web3 i think it was just brilliant they took the meta of what's happening in web3 everyone down bad
end up working at mcdonald's well you know something came out more recently and i'm like this seems like
the goblin town team sure enough truth labs um um announced that it is them if you haven't seen big
ink it's amazing like they're the big ink is like this participatory um collection where it's um uh
they're hiring quote hiring everyone who's down bad in web3 and they're presenting themselves as like
the big box kind of like store with all the cheesy like this is how great it is to work at big ink etc
and when you go through the quote application process which effectively is to get a mint spot on
their platform um you connect your wallet and it is potentially a cringeworthy moment because you get
to see how down bad you are over the past year and they have a leaderboard of the top of the top people
meaning the people who are down the worst and they also obviously they sometimes like for people who are
quite like large influencers they'll completely put a line to them saying they're disqualified from the
mint list so you'll see it like you'll recognize a lot of the names at the top of that leaderboard
it's just so creative and i i just think that that team has done such an exceptional job of
telling a story about what we're all kind of going through in this very like caricature like way um
while building uh like collections for people to participate in i i like if you i don't know eddie if
you want me to pin it for people i don't want to like pretend like i'm shilling but i just like love
what they do yeah you can pin it okay anyways yeah i'll go go on and i'll pin it to the top
yeah no pin it because i thought it was actually really cool as well um and we'll we'll see how
that one pans out but it's definitely one to keep an eye on like truth labs they do some cool stuff
they just don't i don't know if they do the best job following through but at least in terms of their
creativity excellent like top tier stuff and and by the way one other thing i just want to mention
in my view really effective storytelling often comes down to like specificity right it's like
how specific are are you describing a scene etc and that's why like i sometimes get frustrated with
like these you know quite abstract hype cycles that you know um are the quote like stories that some of
the brands are telling so look at the attention to detail of this big inc account the only accounts
they're following are like the large companies they're they're following microsoft they're following
amazon it's like they're they're playing the entire role all the way through to the finish line
it's just i don't know it's so good
well i i'm very interested in what they've got to do and that's actually to malpha dr pp and double
let's do 20 to 30 seconds each each okay so pp yeah start us off yeah sure i was just gonna say i
agree with uh both of you guys if anyone in the room is actually interested in like launching a collection
what i would try to recommend is that like you know really pay attention to the storytelling side like
what uh justin was justin was going after because like what we're seeing is like this this natural
progression where we started off in this like really kind of open ether where like art wasn't
really like clinging onto the timeline and now things are growing at this rapid fast pace where
like if you guys like can really tap into that it's fantastic and like like frequency wise i think it's
really important for everyone to understand that like when it comes to art like a lot of the high
quality stuff takes a lot of time to develop so you might want to like spend a few months developing
that content or try to create art that is able to hit at a high frequency level um high frequency
lower quality but more impact if that makes any sense but in any case like uh i could go on but
yeah i i think this is like the right direction and hopefully everything just gets much better from
here absolutely we're gonna go to double for 30 seconds and then shekinah i did bring you up
it is last minute but for you i'll lose a minute of sleep so double what's on your mind i'll be real
quick because i just want to point out i saw a really cool piece of content from pasta on the
pudgy penguins i don't know if you guys talked about that but um i've criticized it before but i really
like this so they did an unboxing of the pudgy penguin uh dolls or toys and then in at the end inside
there's a card where you uh scan the card for nft so it's like education inside the toy right i really
like how they did that and then when you scan it it opens the app and then like you get a whale hat
or a hat for your character and you see the little 3d penguin on the app and then you could change like
the little uh traits that you collect and you collect them through the toys so like i really
like that approach because i i was critical at first but they were just making you know trying to hide
the nft in the background and and uh to their customers but now he's he's actually doing the call
to action right where he's he's getting eyeballs on it through through traditional uh content but
with the product through the product they're educating the customer on like what this nft stuff
is so check that out if you haven't seen it it's a really good yeah can you pin that that's i i love
that yeah i'll let me hear it all right okay and she kind of round us out yeah no mine yeah i just
kind of saw the the title and so wanted to ask did you guys discuss any of the web3 content creators
kind of um i don't developing developing their brand and kind of uh doing like vtubings which you find
a lot in asian countries could you explain vtubing for uh those who maybe aren't aware lord i don't
even know how to explain it it's essentially um like real like actual people um they kind of present
themselves as like a 3d or like a i don't say a cartoon character but like a 3d type character
and you never see who they are but they make content on i don't want to say youtube but um
i would say japanese or asian um like yeah streaming platforms and they're very very well known it's to
the point where some of them like i mean i'm sure you've seen you've seen the virtual bands like
dude bro the when i first heard about this they're like actual they call them like idols right so
there are actual like virtual reality or like ar or like holographic idols in like some of these
asian countries that have tens of millions of fans and they're basically now at this point they
they basically produce content in-house it's it's insane so did you see that new k-pop one
yes dude so there's like a whole band bro i want i could do a whole twitter space talking about this
shit because i i don't think like i don't think people are aware of like just how insane that is
it's basically like a company taking like an ip uh character brand and then making it like an actual
entity that has like a personality and like all this crazy shit that people follow and throw money
at and they have they come out with lines of clothes toys whatever and it's not even a real person it's
it's so crazy to me sorry i just went on a tangent because it's like one of the it's one of the coolest
and like black craziest like black mirror shit you'll ever like hear if you if you haven't dove into it
i urge everyone to go online go on google right now and just google that and you'll you'll be
set for like another two i'm glad you mentioned that because that's one of the things that i have
come to like want to see out of projects in this space is because innately you could you could get
that whole package but being associated with the brand so like especially like clone x kid called beast
like i i want to see wobb do some sort of rig honthouse done this uh slightly but to me it's you
get the ip rights you get a brand and a community behind it that other people already relate to and
that uh has some backing behind it without having an audience so immediately you have some people that
may be interested because of the community that you're in but the merchandising opportunities
um the uh anonymity like being able to remain behind there without having to actually reveal
yourself or you know you could just be your honest self because you're not worried about you know
physical appearances whatever um you know give your your nft a personality of its own you know a lot
of people play characters on spaces and stuff too uh great way to do that would be through the
the artwork that you own the rights to um so i'd really love to see more projects uh take a really big
look at that um actually since i've been a seal i've hounded wobb about 3d modeling um or like
getting a 2d rig set up and i've even like i'm in the process of animating my seal where it can work
in a rigged situation um for for that that means alone uh you know i've done like content creation like
the whole face thing doesn't bother me but i i realized for a lot of people um there's a lot of
funny creative individuals that could really strive or really uh gain from uh just having
their nft animated um so i really have come to expect that that'll be a big big play in the future
and it's a it's a market web 3 could do um because it's it's massive hey hey check out hologram
this project hologram i think yep if you have a that's exactly penguin i think you could download
them they do seals too and aids yep i'm aware of hologram they typically do like full projects
for that so like the seals essentially would have to pay to have every seal done but then also in i'm
not being critical of hologram but there is i've seen a couple things like adobe animate i might be
able to like recreate better because i could uh like make the asset myself like the the fins and stuff
it seems like it's a mesh between like a 3d like a um three-dimensional plane but they take the 2d
image so like i've seen some like uh kind of weird resolution like stretchy things that happen like when
it moves on the z-axis or closest to the camera like to the left like there's some like kind of like
noise or tearing uh but if like somebody actually hand drew each of the like the body parts like the
head the asset the neck the mouth uh it would it would be able to be implemented slightly better
but they're doing some really cool stuff too so that's not like you know like um you know speaking
from experience sorry hold on i i dr pp i do not mean to cut you off but um i am fairly tired and i
don't know how long how much longer i could do this so i do want to get through shekinah i want to say
hello to nooch and then maybe a quick hello to phrase and we gotta go so like guys just so you
know this the show starts at eight o'clock eastern uh not eleven o'clock eastern so you don't have to
show up at eleven you could show up at eight eddie well well eddie nooch is putting the kids down
around that time so if you could just slide the whole show out an hour or two everyone in
nucci enterprise would really appreciate that it could be a little more a little more considerate
of us parents on the west coast and a little you know that'd be nice nice nice to see here
it's funny because me and eddie have moves let's go ahead eddie no no go for it i was just saying
that me and eddie have moved up to time like i think when we first started running it it started
at six and then like a two weeks later we're like all right we're doing seven now and then literally
two weeks later we're like all right we'll do eight now and so we're like all right i think
eight might be the sweet spot but i genuinely i believe maybe nine might be a sweet spot but
i don't know dude i don't know if we're gonna change it again to be honest i i don't know guys i
mean to live up to the promise of the title of this space like shekinah brought in a subject matter
that's stimulating i think you gotta let it play out and no no justin shekinah what's on your mind
well the last thing i wanted to say was i mean i didn't hear what justin said but someone
what he said about storytelling i think that's really important and i would say for me i mean
i don't have the time to do like the whole v-tubing thing but i would completely pay someone
to do it for my clone and me kind of just develop the story and so maybe i'll start looking on trying
to find where you find those people that would do that um and and yeah because i i think that is the
next level of content creation in web three it has to be because it doesn't make sense if it's not
um if you want to hire hologram i can probably connect them with you
i'm i'm very well aware of who they are um through some clients so thanks
okay and what about nucci and phrase you guys got quick thoughts
a bit of a dissertation planned but i was just gonna say i don't know we were talking about that
like virtual people thing and i was thinking that's a lot like and i joined this really late but isn't
that exactly what angel baby is for fluff world are you guys familiar with that or am i way way off
i see double laughing at me laughing in my face now oh facing me let me just i'll just narrate doubles
emojis for the entire space all right yeah there's a thing called angel baby and it's in fluff world and
i think that's what it is anyways i see my time eddie thanks for having the space buddy
and rudos of course you said that you put your kids to bed at 8 p.m eastern five five p.m
pacific is when you put them to bed that's bizarre uh you should you should i mean even that it
shouldn't take any longer than like 45 minutes to an hour um do better do better and show up earlier
loser phrase what about you real quick um you know what i had no idea i was coming in so late so
i'm gonna i'll yield my time i'll yield my time and we'll i'll join you guys manana or another day
hey you made everyone feel guilty for coming in late no i'm so sorry i'm here eddie it won't
happen again what a guilt guy hey hey wait wait wait wait guys i'm gonna i'm gonna say something
one more thing phrase if you're in this oh i know phrase is doing drop next week so you guys should
follow him and he's awesome and the art is sick it's x copy derivative shit it's insane go follow
phrase he rules support artists he has actually like checkout phrase okay i paused for a moment so
that everyone would actually let that sit um all right with that one guys uh and on that bombshell
and the words of jeremy clarkson we're gonna wrap this puppy up this has been
really good web three show ruto got any thoughts no i just want to say thank you guys so much for
tuning in i know i i literally say this every single night but i really truly mean it um you
guys just showing up and adding to the conversation or even just listening in that showing that sort of
support for me and eddie like it really means a lot to us um and eddie you got anything else before
the the end of the night mantra yes because death is waving his hand at me aggressively you got
something particularly pertinent mr you had to it was before you went to bed eddie who says wrap this
puppy up like even if you give a trial anyway um enough of that garbage i don't know what that was
about uh but it was it was trash oh my god no hanta has his hand up should we go to on ruto
no nope there's not dude screw hands out there's too many hands now we're fighting you gotta do this
we're out we're out we're we're we're fun in this one um sorry guys have a good night we'll talk to you
soon uh ruto did you get you gave it right you gave the mantra no i didn't do the mantra yet but guys
keep in mind that keep in mind tune into the daily outfit tomorrow with espresso and uh chief 10 45 a.m eastern
um if you're interested to hear all the cool shit that's happening uh maybe some possible plays
in the market we have ours monday through thursday 8 p.m eastern with that said guys the mantra is
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love you have a great night have a good night and come tomorrow at 8 p.m not 11 don't wrap your puppies