Web3 Exposed ๐Ÿงฝ๐ŸŽ™๏ธDONT MISS THE ULTIMATE CYCLE

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Mike check Mike check Scott. How did bad brothers beat you here?
How did bad brothers beat you Scott? He's trying to make a fucking point today. He trying to make a point
Said I'm being fucking food today. He said I wasn't shit the other day
Mike check welcome. Welcome to web 3 exposed 457 p.m. On the dot
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Was then founders done fuck their money up ladies and gentlemen, let me tell you
Listen up ladies and gentlemen
Listen up you may or may have not realized this but you have contributed
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2021 you have made contribute their fucking trip to Sandra pay
You donated the money for that. Do not be mad at anybody but yourself. I don't want to hear shit about shit anymore
It's your fault that you that there's shitty founders in web 3
It's all of our fault because we allow them
But guess what the new age is here the cycle is at the part where the working shit is getting fucking love and an appreciation
That it deserves that's the part of the cycle that we are in right now
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You got you got people's turn into a fucking deep end demon bro, he's deepening everywhere
Bro it's starting to get very very like gosh, man, whether you're on year one year two three four five for crypto
I'm gonna tell you right now. I'm gonna tell you right now things get old and good old really quick
You could literally see it. You have to really be paying attention as well, you know, don't get caught up
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We're gonna get into the conversation today. I'm in a good mood. Are you sure big boy?
Jay said we're about to knock off Twitch
What Scott don't throw me off. Let me let me address that in a second. Hold on. So this is the this is the problem
This is the problem
We'll get into the problem in a second the solution. However, the solution is right here now
Lots to talk about
Fuck I'm still high off of yesterday's polygon space to be honest
I've been doing research all fucking night. A lot of doors are opening a lot of things are moving around
There's so many niches in crypto. I'll lead with this where there's a lot of niches in crypto. There's there's there's gaming there's
Music there's so much and some stuff is more relevant than others. Some stuff
Shouldn't be as relevant, but that's not what you're hearing, you know here or there
But I will say
one of the
Best things you can do. This doesn't mean you have to be a trader or anything either
Is as an investor, right, you know, however big or small that may be for yourself
Find a niche that you resonate with right really well one of my biggest bad plays
Where when I dove into something that I actually understood don't get me wrong
I've made 50 X's off of shit that I don't understand not talking about like a meme coin
But like tech that I don't get but I just got tipped off early
But I will say some of the best best ROI plays were investing in things that not only I comprehended and understood
But I actually liked and enjoyed investing in right hence why Scott sounds like a maniac on this deep in mania
You know rant that he's on but for good reason right and in six months when you're like damn Scott was ranting about this
I should have did this or I saw that or I heard about that
Like it's gonna be more there's it's gonna be more relevant, right? So that's it
That's that's a little bit of alpha for the day, right fucking find the niche. Yeah, I mean coin your ass off
have fun sure have fun with your friends, but
Don't forget that the ultimate goal has always been the stack stack stack stack the big two the big three, right?
That's the ultimate right? Don't forget that. Don't forget that while you know
You're having fun and then also find the niche that you resonate with for some of you
It's defy for some of you, you know, it is this RWA depend mania that we're going through right now
You've been involved right? You've loved it. You're excited. You're happy that it's being talked about now, right?
So yeah fine find your niche within all this don't give out too many fucking people both friends and people
I don't know if on Instagram I go out in this happens
Like I swear I'll say five people meet me
Let's say three out of the five, you know are into crypto or heard about crypto, right?
They see my profile whatever it is
We get into that conversation and it's literally at least two of those people will say oh, yeah
I got into this so-and-so back in the day
But then this scam or this this and they just got turned off and then just left
So it's it's okay to to be like, alright, I'm off certain thing
You don't want to be invested in certain projects or be like that's fine
It's fine to just move forward and move on right like come on. We've all been there, right?
I used to I used to own some safe moon, right Scott used to own some safe moon, right?
We all made those those play
Plays but but but what I'm saying is don't run don't let that shit turn you off and then you just
Faded it forever. I read something today and it definitely hit me really hard
And I've been saying it all fucking day ever since but this is the last cycle that if you miss out on in crypto
You will never forgive yourself for the rest of your life
And then obviously no one here is gonna fade it because we're fucking on a Twitter space listening to crypto Twitter people
But our friends our family the people around that are dabbling
This is that opportunity of a lifetime. These combos are important. Yeah, let's have fun. Let's talk about all the airdrops
Let's talk about the meme coins. Let's talk about the shit coins
Let's talk about beanie coming back to cash grab your money in your wallet. That's fine. Let's talk about it
But also let's fucking make sure that we're invested in the things that matter in the things that whether it's with our money
With our time with our energy gross guys been putting on all these fucking new RWA depend companies at the wazoo
These motherfuckers got to 300 followers
Now they have hundreds
So just just do things because you enjoy them make your fucking money sure whatever
But I promise you you will miss the bigger picture the bigger bags
If if you don't follow your heart and actually at least lead with the shit that you enjoy
But without further ado, let's get this show
Whatever you want, let's get it Scott. What's the news of the day? Talk to me brother
Yo GM everybody, yeah, just a couple of things we just go through
And it's pretty crazy can shout out to Andrew Saunders came yesterday and gave some interop alpha again
And I don't know how many times like like I don't want people to lag on interop
Interop means interoperability things like working on and off chain between chains, you know, we talked about wormhole
Guys again, we talked about RWAs a long time ago, then it was the pin
Well before that was social fire right and
The other big bet from a lot of these VCs is interop right and Andrew gave a whole master class two
episodes now
Andrews came and fucking gave two master classes on on interop interop market and
Who he memory was his birthday yesterday. He literally told you this man
Doesn't ever say shit and he literally told you what he was farming. His number one farm is wormhole after we covered a peaks partnership
Peak the deep in L1 partnering with wormhole. So again, I don't
Don't like be here all the whole episode. Listen to Andrew and then don't go look up in anything in the interop market and
Data predicts on the global blockchain interop market is going to surpass
billion by 2032
Again, like Andrew said can we say wormhole and chain link? We saw chain links whole whoever and whoever it
Chailing hired to do all these little videos and content. Yo, dude, this shit is fucking pretty and it makes it very easily
Digestible for anyone who doesn't know how this shit works
So if you like you hear I was talking about CC IPS interop and you're like the fuck are they even talking about?
I didn't know any of this shit either watch some of these chain link videos, bro
like literally then go on chat GPT and be like explain CC IP to me like I'm five years old and
You'll know just as much as I know
So this is not like some smart people conversation shit something you can find out and literally an hour of doing some homework
Yo, the co-founder of Polygon Sandeep
He had a really cool interview. He identified two things basically
What what needs to happen is unlimited scalability and blockchain in a rock
So that's why I brought the interop again for web 3 is long-term success
He emphasizes the significance of the obviously the UI design and seamless interaction and enhancing the usability of a blockchain
What Andrew was cooking yesterday? He'd even know this this was gonna come out today
So man, I hope people took notes yesterday. I found out a little bit more about the D pin device
That's all racing the racing company's doing so it's gonna actually connect
Gamers to cars and send the token rewards to their game account and use them in game purchases staking and other digital assets
It can also be converted to other cryptos or fiat currency of the choice
And just to recover soul Motors Club already has an alpha version
It's being developed using solidity unreal 5 and it's the former need for speed developers on the team
And the soul connects most important goal is to contribute global carbon footprint reduction
By rewarding people for driving eco-friendly. So man didn't have this in the flywheel
I mean didn't have this in my bingo card at all
So it's pretty cool to see a lot of these companies like, you know, think of new ways to use this stuff
Yo, shout out to Jay from coin Telegraph
I know a lot of people hate web 3 marketing and web 3 marketing agencies
But yo Jay's started one up called four labs digital. It's gonna focus as a web 3 spin-off
popular press
relations firmware
He was the head growth officer. So he wanted to spin off and do his own thing
I think he did a great job at coin Telegraph when he's the CEO over there
So know a lot of people don't like marketing web 3, but unfortunately this marketing agencies run this world
So you're seeing VC funds throw big money at web 3 agencies
So just something to keep an eye on even though crypto Twitter is against web 3 agencies. Yo, wait a second
Does that mean we're supposed to launch any agencies? Oh
We're not gonna talk about that man, that's the same guy that's like 17 ambassador roles for marketplace roles
Beyond one marketplace and then you the advisor on the competitor to web 3 Twitter is crazy
But let's get back to the the plan in hand. Yo peak in the news again. They're dropping peak verify
It's a three-tier D pin data verification framework for cars machines robots and devices
It's a multi-tiered modular solution to basically make all these IOT devices information like
Fucking verified right because what good is all this shit talking to each other executing smart contracts if we can't verify
The fucking data. So the framework is gonna leverage cryptography machine learning and trusted oracles to verify all the device data
And then I'm thinking with them. I do we covered I do the other day
with with fetch AI with the AI agents
you mix this all together and
You got the molecule finding from the beginning of time that we covered three days ago. So another thing I had no fucking idea
blockchain was gonna start cracking science fucking data of
What happened in the beginning of fucking time?
So yeah again, like I had none of this shit in my bingo card, but it's really interesting and cooler cool to see
a couple other things
Binance I
Don't know what really happened with with with Skyark
I thought it did really well, but I guess they said they've misrepresented the investment
So I don't know if that just went all the shit
but not too much in the energy news side and
Yeah profits what you said earlier. I'll just ended at this. I love what you said about the RWA stuff and the deep in stuff
And I know we've been covering it. We covered on the space yesterday with polygon, but
again, mineral rights cargo and freight
debt instruments
maritime assets
Historical documents and manuscripts we can go on and on has nothing to do with fucking crypto Twitter get the fuck off this app
Let's get it
Well, that was well said
William looks like there's a lot going on in the market and before you get into it
Before you get into it. I want to know why grayscale news has now made the news
And I want to know and then I want to know what you think is important about grayscale and price
What's up, Will? Let's go. What's the fucking what's the market? Give me the market news will
Well, when you say why grayscale and grayscale and price what what in particular is the question?
I want to know why all of a sudden it's making the news
Oh, you're talking about grayscale selling because they're probably close to being done selling
It only makes sense to put fear in the market when you're in your close to done, right?
It only makes sense. It's actually hilarious. Like I I honest to god think they're about done selling and and
And then there's like all they're selling Bitcoin guys like oh
Man, oh man, look you can't you can't time it any better with these guys. You just you cannot time it any better
It's it's absolute insanity man. Like imagine trading off of mainstream media
Like you you lose you lose everything
Like I can't make it anymore
Look, I like I I just I'm I'm flabbergasted with this like it. Yes old-person word, but
It just it amazes me man
I'm like these these people are like literal clowns like lit like I would tell them to their face live
Like I don't know sit here. I'm on I'm recording. I'm recorded like somebody could send this to them
I would call them clowns like to their face. No bullshit like they they give the worst
The worst market outlooks at the worst possible times all the time
That you can never make this stuff up. It's so easy, but I'm ranting a little bit. I meant a little bit
But I will like the JP Morgan CEO, right
Investing in the back door bro, like
Come on you're involved in so many projects JP Morgan. Why are you lying?
Hey, I'll save in 20 million with onyx, bro. That's what fucking made me laugh will
Bro, like literally lying to people
We'll start playing that every day before we get into the market
Sell the bottom by the top
Never show your what's the saying never show your left hand what your right hand do
We're up a clown a little bit guys, but like I mean the timing is it's it's it's abysmal. It's it's ridiculous. I
Can't believe honestly that Jim Kramer is another one man. That's another clown in this space
Like he he gets it right sometimes gets it wrong other ones
Like he knows here right now, what would you tell him and don't cry I
Would tell him that he's a fucking like well, I probably wouldn't call him a clown
I won't lie. I would probably just tell him like did you know you're manipulating markets a hundred percent
I would tell him that for sure
And then that's exactly he knows how to get it right
He knows how to get it wrong and he'll call wrong calls on purpose and he'll call he'll call right calls on purpose, right?
He'll get you in a streak of manipulation and the thinking that he's gonna continue to call right calls
And then he'll start calling wrong one at the wrong one at the wrong one to get you in the in the wrong direction
Right. He's trying to confuse you. He's trying to throw off your equilibrium when it comes to markets
And and that this is why you can't follow people like Jim Kramer because he he's he's such an unpredictable character when it comes to
Markets, um, you know whether he feels like giving you the real information or whether he's trying to manipulate
You know the the information that's being given and I'm telling you this because I think there was a film
Or at least a news
News was it broadcast or whatever back in the day? I'm trying to think of like how long ago it was
It was pretty long time ago dudes pretty old
Where he basically described that the hedge fund that he used he would manipulate markets up
So that way he could get out of bad positions and this is what people with size do right?
They literally manipulate a market up to get people to buy in so so they can exit and and he he admitted this live on
You could probably find the clip somewhere
But it was the live broadcast. He literally admitted that he was doing that and like it's that's market manipulation
He should be in prison for that
But instead, you know, he's praised as some great hedge fund trader
No, that's a lot of them do that too, by the way, and he even said that he's like, I'm not the only one who does it
Fucking happy I was here in Miami these fucking self-proclaimed hedge fund manager motherfuckers
Hey, well, I want to ask you a question. Do you think?
Like they're just at the point where like not obviously the cool web three people right the people that aren't so savvy
Right, like uncle foo, you know, maybe grandma foo
Do you think at this point like after seeing JP Morgan do that?
the world economic forum with fucking
Ukraine's president really just telling their back during infrastructure deals
Do you think they just think we're just that dumb like like let's just put it right in front of their face because they're not
What are we gonna they're thinking are they gonna uprise?
Start a civil war. No, they're not so like I'm really surprised at the blatant just
Just throwing it in our face at this point dude where it's like, you know
Like I couldn't believe they're literally laughing about backdoor infrastructure deals. That's so illegal like with the
Before they even do them
And they were admitting it on the floor and I'm like and I mean I get it you get it
Everyone on this stage gets it right? Like I'm not this is not direct to anyone, you know
That that's been through this whole bear and bull
It's like, you know, like I said the people really don't understand like they're watching this not even knowing it's happening in front of their face
And it's almost like damn. They really think we're just a bunch of weenies or whatever. Sorry ladies
Bunch of nobody and we're not gonna do nothing about it. Like that's how I feel now like it's like we're just so
down low peasant
Status to them like they're admitting these backdoor infrastructure deals with their tax money
I'm like, this is crazy. It's got there on YouTube
There is there there is a madness
or a play to the madness that they create right and and that play is
To you know, there's a psychology side to things right? It's the average person doesn't know better
They just don't know better they don't they don't look into finances. They don't look to learn financing
They don't look to learn how to budget their bills or anything else
I just live live paycheck to paycheck and they don't know how to get out of their financial situation and that that's how they
Would like everybody to be
The other people that are trying to get out of situation and get better those people are trying to budget
They're trying to you know invest and stuff like that and and be able to get out of their situation in that way
And then you got other people who you know, like I guess I'm a little bit higher level when it comes to that but
Who can play the manipulation because you know, the manipulation is coming, right?
When you see certain bills start to pass and everything like that, you know, like it did like when everybody said Nvidia running was manipulation
it's like bro, did you not see the chips act that got passed in 2021 and that was
Activated in 2023 and you wonder why Nvidia's where it's at
Like people just like you look at what they're doing. Look at what they're doing
Don't know what they say. Look at what they're doing. Look at the laws
They're passing look what sectors will be affected by that and you could take advantage of their manipulation blatant manipulation, too
By the way, cuz uh, if you look at Nancy Pelosi's portfolio, it's full of pretty much every bill that got passed
But yeah, so
You know moving into like I guess the the obvious thing
People like to call it conspiracy bro, it's like it's right there. It's open
They have to they have to publish that shit. Like you can't they can't hide it. It's public. You can go look at it
But yeah, so, you know, I wonder what her a now while it's like
I'm sure she's got some crypto. I'm sure she's got some crypto going into Bitcoin ETF. Yeah for sure
But you know the biggest play is here is is that again?
You just you gotta not listen to the news on
You know investing you can listen to my like world events like if you want to know what's going on in the world
Sure, I'm not sure you're gonna get the real answer there either, but at least you'll know what's going on, right?
Just don't don't take their bias into account. They always take a bias whenever they create a news report now
It's never just journalism. It's it's positioning
But I would say like overall when it comes to markets like these markets mark bottoms and mark tops
You know at the most, you know ridiculous times your top was marked out at 48k
What was everybody in the news saying at 48k? Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye, right?
Your bottom was marked on 38 39. What was everybody saying at 38 39? We're going to low 30s, right?
And then what happened market reverse like it's literally an UNO card that a lot of people just aren't playing here
Yeah, but I would say like our strength on Bitcoin looks pretty strong again, I'm still watching 45
You got to watch for that resistance at 45 possible floor at 38
40, you know if we if we want to go back down and dip I'd like to see 40 cuz it'd be a higher low
That's that's a good structure. Right? You always look over structure when we talk structure. We're talking like stair steps, right?
You always want the stairs leading to the upside. You never want the stairs leading to the downside
So if you start getting lower lows now, you got the stairs leading to the downside
And if you're leading to the downside, which way do downside stairs go they go down, right?
So price should go down ideally if you start staring down
If stairs stair sideways or stair up you're looking to go up and what I mean by that is like high time for in dips
Where do they end do they end lower than the previous dip or do they end higher, right?
Your weekly is one of these stuff like that. Maybe even we can get into dailies, but you need a cluster of them
So in that aspect right now as of right now
We've kind of held the lows right so that's kind of the the more important part to keep in mind when you're looking at
These markets at the moment
And we want to we want to continue really honestly, like if you're an altcoins
You want to see this market trades sideways?
You don't want your brick because if Bitcoin takes attention again, your altcoins are gonna get just like really sluggish, right?
They're not gonna move
And then some of them will probably bleed if they've been exceedingly outpacing Bitcoin
As of right now Solana the network's popping guys like I don't know what to say
But I'm just look I'm over there like you could just flip liquidity really easily like last night. I think I got
Into a play. I pulled off literally a 10x in like an hour
And these are the kind of plays that are playing when there's a lot of liquidity over there running
Overall though I would say this and you got but that play was literally just a play
It wasn't like an investment or anything like that
Like but that's what you do as a trader whereas if you're investing not looking for stuff like that
You would never touch something like that if you're looking for investing and I always like that to tell people that because I feel like
A lot of people don't understand the difference between trading and investing
They're two totally different things you're investing in a company because of how they align with your thoughts and in your thoughts on their on
Their potential growth right on that. That's what you're betting on when you when you invest
But overall, you know something I'm looking at that's pretty big at least the sector
I put it up there in the in the nest and
And that's render man. Like I feel like a lot of people are fading this but cloud computing. I think that's gonna be really good
It's gonna be good for gaming. It's gonna be good for
Construction if you're doing like BIM 3d modeling anything like that's gonna be good for movies
It's gonna be really good for a lot of things. It's gonna allow a lot of freedom space. That would be a deep in
We don't we don't have to get in all that all right, we don't
But I did post an article there for people to read so they can understand
Kind of the aspect of cloud computing if you work in like any type of like software
You know, you know this stuff guys, you know this stuff
But if you don't work in software and you want to know how it works, I put the the media article up there
They're gonna actually be helping Solana expand
They partnered with Solana back in December. I don't know if anybody noticed that, you know, it was caught the quiet partnership that nobody talks about
But they're gonna help them expand and improve on the network. So that's that's pretty cool, man. I really like seeing
Projects collab and it gives more more authenticity
I think to the to the project itself, but I'm really big on render because rendering itself is a very GPU intensive process and
Not not just that it can also, you know
Take a lot of space for a lot of software that you have to use to render and everything else
So to be able to do it on cloud would be is it's absolutely insanity
Especially if it works out
Well again, I haven't really played with their render side of things as far as like this
This crypto, but I do want to try it out and I'll give you guys kind of my feedback on it and how it works
And everything like that. I'm gonna try and play with it. So I'll put some money in there and you know
Kind of jostled around see what I can get
Overall, you know, I I think like looking at these things and looking at the space
I think there will be a slight shift from this DJ to more real-world use case
So while people are DJ and you look at the chart I put it underneath there too in the same in that same post
Render is doing really well really really well. It's healthy moves
Side steps. Hold on a second William throw thumbs up or thumbs down
Do you think that bad brothers knows that render is a RW or deep end token?
Hey three people people is an advisor y'all just just so you know
Like because he's artists fucking rendering like what will's cooking right now my bad
No, I just wanted to bring this to people's attention
So like you guys asked for like real good projects and like what's out there and all this stuff
Well, I just presented you with one. It's uh, I think roughly around 1.7 the bill as far as market cap
I think most things in a space
L1s good projects want to sell for worth of a 5c a 50 bill evaluation probably 30 to 50
So it's not too bad on X's either
And you know if they can continue to do the things that they're doing they could definitely see a significantly less
Less of a drop in the bear market than a lot of these also see
So, you know again, it's just throwing out some some good info for you guys
What I think are solid projects that are not gonna rug you or rack you or anything like that
So just just some info for all of you
But yeah overall again 40 45 is kind of your cap right at the moment
And if you can get above 45 we can hit up in the high fit not not high 50s, but low 50s
Probably like 52 to 55
But we need to break that barrier first. So until that's broken just take it as resistance
If you start to see hesitation there, you know where it's coming back. That doesn't mean a I need to sell here at 45
It just means like if it comes back down to like 38 40 I can dial in a little more
But at least that's the way I would take it right so I'm buying supports not really selling resistances at the moment
I think I'm expecting some kind of big move from crypto in general
I just don't know when and timing that is almost impossible
So you could get out at the wrong time and the market absolutely just rips against you and doesn't come back
Not trying to drive fee or anything that I'm not one of those type of guys
But like you have to understand your your RR your risk to reward right now
Your risk to the reward is is it's upside right? It's upside
So if your risk to reward is upside you want to play before the upside if your risk to reward is to the downside
on high time frame
massive moves
Then you want to you want to kind of de-risk, right? That's where you'll start dialing out. You can do that above speculation levels
That again, that's those are typically above all-time highs. But yeah, that's that's that's all I really got
I don't want to ramble too much on markets
Hey will to cherry on top just for my love, you know, my numbers people out there. Uh
render as if I think was last week when I checked they have 1100 a
Quote-unquote
GPUs available per quarter for the rendering job. So I just expect that to keep growing and then I also expect
You know some of these ones that are I don't want to say any names because I have no horse in this fight
I mean in this race
The the gaming company is doing it right so interested to see
who can talk gamers into hitting the
shared GPU button
Yeah, I think whatever one of those companies ends up winning that that race. They're gonna cook. So
That's a few space is gonna it's gonna help
Developers too on gaming because it's gonna allow them to expand out of you know, their current computer
It'll actually allow them to do a lot more with whatever they're using unity, you know
Unreal Engine 5 whatever they're trying to use to create the game
It's it's gonna allow them more space to be able to do that and a lot of them to not burn up their own computers doing it
Hey will science to remember we just covered the fucking
Molecules from the beginning of times think about all the processes of figuring out crazy-ass math problems and crazy-ass science data
So yeah, like games is super dope
Obviously rendering things super dope but like I always like, you know out of the box shit
So I'm really excited to see like more of this
Finding out and it's a golem still around G and T cuz that was their thing back in 2017. Well, what was it?
Bad brothers, it's like cold golem. It was like the ticker with G and T. Oh
Gollum, I got into that
Big things. Hey, so do you guys think hey, bro, I'm so glad you brought this up bad brothers cuz they're back
This is crazy. Have you guys know?
Because a lot of people were upset and bad brothers was cooking on that right like like I said
This is my brother. We fucking know each other and shit
He like we talked about the ones that in
2017 or 2000, you know, like or the people that went in helium early, right like my but y'all know Apollo y'all know my
You know who I can find it
He's like man, I don't know fucking things bro. I fucking with those things over like, you know
I mean cuz he like like it was a wrong timing type thing and see bad brothers
I didn't even know go was around that
I mean, I knew they've been around but I didn't know there was around in 2017 and it's crazy
They're like starting to pop off right now. So I'm dude. See this is super interesting
I'm I'm wondering if a lot of these projects are gonna go because I think what Gomes a polygon now
so I think maybe you find like that new partner that new grant that new brother's sister that new that new synergy and
Then you know like helium with Solana, right the perfect example we covered yesterday
So maybe we'll start seeing these. Oh, I see bad brothers
You got to put me on to the older ones cuz I didn't know about any of these back then bro
I mean, you know, like it's like a lot of that is what got me really excited in 2017
Like, you know the meme for the tech like that's half of where it came from when it was like, you know
It's getting into that space
It was like I was really interested in all that all the deep end stuff
I've been all that tech and I think again like we discussed
I think it's really a timing thing where in 2017
Yeah, that all kind of fizzled out, but I think maybe you know
Now is definitely the time to get back into it and you know, really know this stuff because again
I've always been bullish on the future. It's been designed
It's just the tech wasn't there back then and it's just like, you know, it's a lot different space now. So
Bad brothers, you're gonna love this bro. So I did some digging for you. So there's actually
New companies like a ydo. I don't know how to say a do I do
But what they do is they take regular like the old regular devices
So anything that's IOT bad brother and they you don't have to get the new Bosch
XDk, you know to to talk to the blockchain or fucking use any it's like, you know
Almost like a wormhole type shit AI so it could work on work with
You know gear that's already out
So I think again what you just said like that wasn't out this shit just came out and I think AI is
Helping a lot too, especially with AI agents, you know, they're like little mini soldiers in
You know making decisions in these devices with information. It's bed
So I think like it's just a mix of everything AI wasn't around
People like, you know really didn't even know what the fuck D pin was at all now all of a sudden
It's the top VC, you know funded thing all like, you know in the last six months you see Solana foundation
Polygon aetherium there you just made the EIP
For the RWA token standard. Like I think it's just like this perfect like storm for all of this shit including machine
RWAs like it's like everyone's ready. I think maybe
Like a year or two, you know, cuz we're like that organic if you want to do like marketing shit
We're like that gorilla on the ground zero. We believe in it because we're already here first
But then this is gonna be so easy
You know you tell the motherfucker put this carrier one antenna up and now you you you are T-Mobile fucking tower
Like I don't even got to explain explain nothing else. Yo, you buy this shit
Yeah, they come here with T-Mobile you buy this antenna mom. It's like fucking a football, you know
I mean you put it on your fucking fence mom
You don't have to climb the ladder and now you're fucking T-Mobile 5g fucking. Yes, I got the
Top I got the receipts. This is hilarious. This was like this is like the first screenshot I have from the portfolio screenshot from 2017
So yeah, there we have G and T which was Gollum. We have sigh a coin which was actually my first all coin which
Which was like the what do you call which is deep in like these are all deep pin things FCT
I don't know what that one. They have went defunct, but that was like another one with like I think was around legal dots and stuff
So yeah, yeah, trust me, you know
Bro you and dark virus
Deep in a
Broken he gave up to early. Yeah, I'm still fucked up off the hive mapper. See y'all and let me let me this is why this
Let me spin something real quick. Okay, I'm gonna let you cook because I'm about to cook cook
Like this is what's funny about web 3
Solana Foundation event at NFT NYC last year. Yes. Hi mapper was around then
They presented and people were falling asleep in their fucking chairs. Y'all anyone that was there
It was the okay bear Solana Foundation backpack and yo backpack is the mad lads team
People were literally falling asleep in their fucking chairs not giving two fucks about high mapper
Mad lads backpack any of this shit that was being built, you know, cuz Solana wasn't really like what it did
You know back on its shit right now
all of a sudden Coinbase says they fucking listing honey and
Now the motherfuckers is five grand in Europe on eBay three grand in the States
And now the poor CEO of hive mapper, you got my boy all fired up
You know, he don't want y'all by buying them for this this much
But then you got to look at it the truck drivers doing it full-time, you know, they commented
They're like I'm getting two grand a week
You know, so really I can't really be the truck drivers like I bought another one
I don't really care
So it's just weird how web 3 doesn't care until it's fucking like listed on coinbase or like fucking
partnered with this person or part bringing this company from web 2 when dude high mapper dead as
Like it was like a big coming-out celebration at the Solana Foundation event in New York and people were literally
Smoking backwoods outside drinking coffee in the back falling asleep in their chairs
Me and John from you guys just trying to like be respectful and not get up and no one gave a fuck and I think
Someone can pull up the honey token price back then it was like Millicent's, you know what I mean?
But what's up with the boy Tarte man?
I was gonna say talking about what you're talking about one of my the hide mapper things
I don't do it, but my buddy G he spent we were friends. We were kids
He spent 12 years in the pen and then came out
I helped him get all types of shit that he couldn't normally get whatever he has a CDL. He drives, bro
It's in his fucking truck. He drives cross-country and he's like, you know, I hate he's like man
I'll make more this than I do on my own thing and like he he's he's not like a crip like crypto aficionado
But I promise you he knows how to run his spot because he texted me like three days ago was like
Yo, can I put one of these shits in these other people's trucks?
And I was like, do you even need their permission is the next question? Like I don't know man
I'm gonna say yes cuz I'm just you know
Like I don't want to demand and I'll be about his money for sure on that note on the high mapper thing
And I promise you like he knows just on I mean you spend 12 years in the pen bro
like it's hard to catch up on technology when you do it from like
21 to 33 like you really miss a big
technological ramp right, but I mean he's
He knows enough to cook on it like that
But I sound like on the rendering thing how they talk about how good it is for video and all that
Please please don't sleep on engineering. So something you guys don't know maybe don't know about rendering engines
But I have my computer runs two terabytes of RAM and six in video Quadro p6000 RTX is because I do quantitative
Analytics and I do computational fluid dynamics
And so like what I do is I I take render and they have render farms for it
They use the same exact shit for engineering
But you put a piece and like maybe more beneficial to use like I take f1 racing components
And then I say at this temperature with water
I'm gonna put this torsional yield on it this compressive load
Did you know these type of structural deformations and do deflection analysis?
You do it all at the same time, but that shit renders and the amount of money you could eat off
Engineers by running render farms and render networks for him, right you it because I promise you the company's like
Dissault systems and these other engineering firms the amount of money they want to charge you like for my uh
for for my
Computational through my CFD stuff. It's 80. It's 80 bands a year for software every year
That's just use it and they charge extra to run their render farms
I run it locally because I bootleg some code in there and I run it locally because I mean good for answers
I mean it's on them, but I can still get in there shit and do it fine, but whatever. It's fine
I guess we're recorded so myself, but you can run it locally, right?
But if you provided a service to that and you provided it towards specifically towards foreign
Engineers right because it's a lot more difficult to do it there
Like we sponsor at my company
We sponsor a lot of them in PhD programs like specifically at the University of Oklahoma
We sponsor the aerospace engineering division because it's really hard that hey Tarby before I say it before I say this
No, this is for you before I say if you think Tar's cap and go on his LinkedIn
Can you tell the to the space your background real quick? Oh, uh, ah, let's see in high school
I was president in the top 200 kids in the United States. I led the
National Youth Leadership Forum on Defense Intelligence and Diplomacy. I got 36 on my ACT in ninth grade
I got offered a full ride to Duke in seventh grade. I went to West Point
I don't I'm not really a fan of school. I
Am a polyglot. It takes me like two and a half months to learn a language
I've worked in almost 30 different countries
You can pull up
I mean you pull up my LinkedIn you can pull up anybody from the director of intelligence to the US Army to
There's a there's a gang of folk on there because you know
Like I tell you guys all the time that the better the people that are in your circle
The harder it is to get in and the harder it is to get out, but part
You mentioned a lot there and and I don't think many people understand the complexity of
Of rendering and the cost concept behind it. But if you look into this render project, bro, like
It's pennies on the dollar compared to what I've never even heard of it till today, bro
That's why I'm always you have to pull up man. You're in a tar. I'm gonna fuck you up
Engineering and compute
Projects on I think polygon has some PCAS them
I'll send you a view like they're already like what you're talking about
Like you need to go build the next one bro
Like they're literally handing money out like come build this shit over here. So bro, like this shit is is already in existence
Yeah, yeah, I'm about to have a banking project with the government of Kenya
Can you always cook in bro just like
The farming credits that was one of the first RWAs me and profits ever fucking it's so far forward
I went there first time I went there. I was like
Missionary truth because my grandma was a missionary growing up. That's what really sparked my interest for international travel, bro
I used to peel ever with my grandma. I didn't have a mom. So she was the homie bro. She was best friend
I gave her ass chicken pox for the second time in her 60s, you know, I mean, I'm not flexed my chicken pox
So strong you can get them twice. No big deal. It's whatever
Yeah, buddy
well, I mean Africa what do you call like there've been a lot of crypto companies that have used it as like a virtue signal but
From this aspect of a lot of that stuff over there is like not built up or very new
There's a lot easier ways to disrupt traditional systems than it is over here
Like the one I always use is like real estate
Like there's so many aligned incentives was in the US to not allow any disruption or changes in that industry a lot of laws
Around that but there are much easier ways to do that and you know developing countries. I don't even have the base infrastructure
Well, when you buy everything in cash
Going to other country we're gonna be for fucking arts. I hate it, bro
Every deep dude, they even admitted on the polygon space yesterday
Like now it was a big secret, but they're like if you want to start off successful and deep in an RWA
You can't launch it in America. I'm like, bro. What the fuck bro, like yeah, dude fucking
Shout-out Cody bro
Like Cody is one of the only ones who has like real regulatory shit going on and dude
It's fucking tough bro
Like and he's doing it by the book with the right people the people who did it in web two
It's still hard bro, and it's like you got other countries like Japan
Literally about to peg something to the fucking yen
But we can't even get a little a little just a little pass a little little 10-yarder
You know a little a little fly route could you get something? No, but bro like
I mean America became the richest country in the world because we had an open system where people could come here
Invest money develop new products and do all that now the idea of investing in America
It's like what compliance loopholes do I have to jump through this that in the third?
We're like that was not the case, you know for most of our history
That's it it's just the way to pass you they put up roadblocks to tax you I'll say this too
Next said that bullshit today all of a sudden they're going. Oh, well, there's one huge hurdle
Regulation. Oh, no shit van neck. You're coming for our JPEGs you fuckers
But no like why you just bring that up today, you know, I mean like like
Never I ain't gonna say too much
Well, I mean like I'll say this to you like cuz cuz I worked in Africa nice to train a bunch of people for slumber
Jay, they're like it you really it's it's pretty hard to grift because if they go to slide into it
Like they are going to read the white papers the green papers and the orange papers and the carbon copies of those
You know, I mean like they they that's why that's why they invent shit where they have to go over there and they're like
Oh, we better make war in this country and get rid of this shit because when you can't track the people's money
You can't track the shit they buy like and this is something for you guys to less than 30 percent of transactions in Africa
are traceable right because people are P2P and
so when you can't track all that stuff the the the springboard for innovation becomes
Exponential right and so that's where they come up with some shit. It's like oh, I take energy from the radio waves like that guy
Yeah, and then it's like aw damn. He accidentally made it to TV first
I guess you can't shoot him real quick
And then it's it's a lot harder to settle those issues out than they do
You know in America when somebody invents a car that runs off such and such and then all of a sudden
He accidentally shot himself in the head twice after he hung himself and shit, you know
Like it's just they they have a speed that can't be matched because they're they're not traceable folks
Hey good afternoon fam, how are y'all doing today?
Bro I saw your son depending bro
That's fucking tight
Look man, my son has always been one of the most like technological people in my life and
He's actually been putting me on ever since I had these conversations about depends with a man
And I hope you can hear the excitement in my voice brother
Like you just opened up a whole new world to our whole family everybody everybody in the household is deepening right now, bro
And we love it man, and it's weird like we're sitting on hexagons right where we live
So it's it's pretty amazing bro, but I actually had a question for you Scott and tart
I think this is right up your alley as well. So I'm gonna be very vulnerable right now you guys after I broke my back
Unfortunately, I do take a lot of
Medicines, you know just to get through my day and such and recently in the United States
We've been having a lot of shortages on medications and because of that
I'm not allowed to call certain pharmacies and ask if they have that medication
Because they're afraid of people robbing them now
Do you think deepens can actually solve that issue by alerting?
Let's say somebody like myself was active prescriptions and they can be alerted like hey
This pharmacy is out or this manufacturers out, but you can go to such-and-such pharmacies
So it alleviates them having to give that information to robbers
But we can still be able to get our medications without having to go through the hoops
I mean it would be like an API or if you had a crypto token it would be an RPC call if it's on a
D pin network, it would just be an RPC call to your address
And so if you all you would put in on your end is you put an action out that says I'm looking I mean lowkey
It's just like buying regular drugs
Like are you holding you basically put up an are you holding and then list what you're looking for?
And then when something becomes available at such-and-such it's kind of like how orca worked in best buy
But then it would actually be functional in real time, right?
So the second it got scanned in on their systems, they would just have a back end
I mean, I don't know if this thing exists
I'm just telling you how I would do it and I hate to run it back to regular drugs
But we got to be who we are in this world man. It's got to be man fish got to be fish, right?
So that's how I would do it. I would run a
System that ran off you could run QR codes and everything that it would be a real-time system
And you can run you could actually run the the information on chain, right?
If you really really wanted to and it would just it would insta pop whenever you needed it
And you could even you could even create the system to an extent that it would it would have a hierarchical structure for
Medical conditions right it could rate you as a consumer like based on necessity and it could fill from
Necessity down based on your ailments, right?
But I don't know how that would work like you would have to separate that legally you would have to separate the rating system
The actual supply and demand but it would just look and say oh you're a plus
You know or it could even the insurance company could manage that system and just put order of order of operations
Right, like it would be a go-between right a bridge in effect
Yeah, man tart you're cooking bro, that's exactly what I was thinking like deep in that would facilitate like a basically decentralized database
Or an app that stores with tarts and local pharmacies their contact details
Drug inventories and then that information would be on a dap
Maybe buy through a token like or some kind of blockage or some kind of you know gateway to get into there
But that's exactly
Decentralized identity. Yeah, I think that so what do you call the person like having your medical information and stuff being able to compare it
What he called pharmacy stocks and everything and that was another big you know
narrative back in the day that you know will definitely become back and I think was one in
2021 I mean the one I was looking into it had money back then in 2017 was civic and basically the idea was cuz I mean
I mentioned before like you give out all this information all these companies when they don't actually need it right when you go to
7-eleven to buy beer they just need to know your their aids
They don't need to scan your whole license
So basically a way to have your identity and all that information secure and being able to have these you know
Companies request that data but only the data they need and you allow it
In an encrypted secure way and then to the pharmacy example, then it'd be I mean it could even be anonymous in the sense
that it's just sending your medical data or
Retrieving that thing comparing it to your medical data and not even passing your name at all
low key bad brothers your insurance company would have the app and
Everything that you are and you're ranked at would be on your app. And so when you communicate to the pharmacy
It's literally through a zero knowledge proof and your token has specific assets
Like all your token would need to be is user one needs it, right?
And we've already approved user one because we did it at the insurance level and user one is an a plus
So put user one at this quarter level and you would literally just have a token like XB
9000 blah all this other BS nonsensical thing and that would be you and you would be tier a and that's all they need to know
Right, cuz I mean you can even hook your payment up to it if it goes through the entrance
Resolve it locally
Hey for the listeners guys
Like this is why like we are so bullish on this shit because this is literally like a breakout room
But like in the open, you know, we're fucking someone bring something up. Hey, we got this kind of problem
This is literally like the call a call me and profits will be on on zoom or rhino or chart
Oh ease up here to like this is literally like a breakout room in the open
And if you can see I know not everybody in the listeners can can talk but I know y'all that brains are
Spinning right so think about all this stuff
We're saying like in this little mini breakout room of about medical now take that to whatever sector you're working in
Like I said aeronautics fucking, you know finance
Whatever you do and then do the same thing have a little breakout room on on your Google Doc chat
GBT have everything fucking going and think of the problem that she up see all the smart people coming
Yeah, sorry, I'm gonna get the back to the hands my bad part
Now Scott, I'm pretty sure I was like subconsciously
Rejecting like not actually but like, you know, are the buoys and that type of thing from that
2017 PSD because like now I'm getting hyped up against from this conversation
And like I said, that was the stuff that really got me hyped up back then
But I think my brain was also going to me like no, no, don't get too hyped you remember that so I mean
Yeah, we love a bad brothers unlike for no reason like comment repos welcome
It's we're cooking that motivation is here. Let's let's gas up motivation real quick
Well, it's our pay profits they scored well
So I have a slightly different take on this example. So I think it is a real valid
real world use case on
Being able to get medications or specific drugs and whatnot
I'm gonna say that it is not a deep in problem
to be solved as in it is not a problem that is solved by deep in however, as
RDC thought was saying and it's exactly what I was thinking when the words are coming out of his mouth is
There is a great use case for other pieces of tech in
Web 3 or in the blockchain space one is going to be inventory management and verification of inventory on the blockchain
2 is going to be identity management because one of the biggest things in
particularly in the United States is around HIPAA compliance and
The preservation of people's identities and how that relates or is translated back to
medications medical history
Where they source their
drugs or medications in this case, so
Providing the use of like a zk proof in that instance makes it a lot easier for somebody to be able to
Prove who they are to get some
Medications they need without giving up their full identity, which is a great use case
What I do want to highlight though, is that it is important when we and exactly as Scott said
This is this is like a breakout room. This is like a brainstorm room. This is one of my favorite places to be
What is very important to think about is not how the tech can be jammed into a solution?
But rather the other way round what problems are there?
What problems are we trying to solve and then think of what solutions are there today that we can take off the shelf or?
What solutions can we bring together? So partner together, you know?
There's probably if you want to use web 3 lingo or jargon right now
You can use deepens and our WA and blockchain all together in the same sentence to solve some kind of solution
but it's also very important that
When you're going down the path of learning about the new narratives or learning about the new technologies
Not to think that that is the answer every single time to a problem
but rather to think of how can we solve this using the blockchain because I'm gonna
but maybe it's controversial to say so but the blockchain is not actually the answer to all of these problems and the blockchain is
not always the the
When we're talking to projects in fact similarly to and I cannot remember who this was it may have been RDC taught
It may have been bad. It was bad brother actually or will no, sorry was will a third time lucky
It was will who was talking about cloud computing?
And if anybody was around when and a few of us were around when cloud actually was born
So the public cloud per se the commercial great cloud
Most people were petrified of it. There was no way is never gonna put anything up in the cloud and we started evolving to this
concept of a hybrid model
Some stuff lives on-premise
Some stuff lives in the cloud and there's reason behind that because certain data certain
Products certain technology does not belong on the blockchain and certain things belong on the blockchain
That's what it's there for. So I just wanted to raise that because it is quite easy when we get excited about
Technologies and narratives and whatever else and I'm guilty of doing this myself
To start thinking well, here's the solution. It's got to be I'm just gonna use this example
It's got to be deep and deep and deep and but actually there are other components within the whole
Blockchain space that can actually that solve that problem in in the manner that will deliver the results
So we're after without having to shove a product down real quick
Just the kind of end of my end of my conversation just kind of add to your piece and I'll be quick is
You're you're a hundred percent, right?
In construction they use something called a bin 360 was the cloud service through Autodesk. It's very expensive very very expensive and
They only put up their models and to create they don't put
Related to the to the contract the money involved or anything like that like all that stays on personal servers
the actual
Structures I've been trying
What's up
Ruggling earlier you can you hear me now?
My bad, yeah, so the issue with cloud computing this has always been the issue is security
And that's that's why a lot of people were really bugging on it for a while
And I think that that's actually improved quite a bit
Yeah, one quick a real quick for for for RDC
Well shit, I thought there was a few RDC when I said there's a bunch of compute depends
There's fucking 33 and that's just listed on fucking deep in hub
So I'm sure there's like way more but there's if anyone wants to like quick look at their Twitter's
Look at their websites. Look at the white papers. If you go to deep in hub. I'll go to projects
You can hit subcategory for compute and I'm excited. I just seen a new category called manufacturing
So I'm gonna be quiet for a couple of minutes
But what's a rhino you go ahead and then yeah, go ahead and after rhinos finished, brother
so I was gonna share another piece if you really want to get creative just something I was thinking about is
You can actually use
RWA in a deepened manner
So for example in the way that RDC talk was just talking about earlier with rendering where you can run these render farms
You could also then fraction lies the ownership of those render farms, which actually becomes
Essentially an ownership piece. So it's like an NFT which in this instance would be the ownership of some
value producing asset, which is an RWA at the end of the day, and so you would
You could get a few people to actually own or support or fund those render farms
But they own a certain percentage of it and then can of course generate a return. It's the same as
fractionalizing a blockchain miner or or even a
validator
Tax incentives behind holding that as an asset and then allowing an entity in a foreign country to use it as a tax write-off
Not that I would ever do that
Fuck you up, I'ma fuck you up, Tarte, ready, ready, ready, and you do it in renewable energy
Yeah, I mean don't don't man. I could I watch somebody
I'll ask somebody say something about what they call flip.
Hey, like the Batcave? Off to the D-pin. Off to the D-pin, man
I'm gonna say there's a company that's already doing this and I'm advising for in the medical tech space and on the renewable side and
the blockchain side called Lumi
L-U-M-I and they will be accessible to the world later this year, but they already have a partnership with Starlink and
doing this in third-world countries where it's needed the most first and they're making
Basically, if you can transparently track
Pharmaceuticals from source
So basically watching them and every hand that they swap and every assembly line that they're on all the way to the end consumer
So your drugs aren't getting counterfeit or cut with malicious things that can essentially
result in you having a heart attack or a stroke or losing a loved one and
By having these accessible in shipping containers that are in these areas that are constantly connected
you're providing a
More reliable healthcare system that's accessible to minorities and marginalized communities globally
so it's what you guys are talking about is all on the way and you know big pharma doesn't like it, but fuck them and
It's exciting
I guess the only thing I don't really super in love with that is like the Starlink buzzword because if you look like the global
Communication cable construct which is cables across all the world accounts for 99% of all data transmission globally
So most people think like oh, I call somebody and it's wireless or sat phones or all that
But it's not though because I don't know I'm not gonna go into how I think that whole system functions
But I'll say that I have been in some jungles in Central and South America where the satellite phone didn't even work even though
The satellites in the air and then I might have got laughed at because I didn't understand that functionality
But 99% of the world's comms go
Go across water. Yeah, so I think that's something to consider
Yeah, and I mean these are being like we traveled the world to set up relationships with
manufacturers in these cities and testing connectivity and I also work for
Connectivity
Internet platform because connectivity demands by fans at venues for events are growing by 50% annually
And so in 50 plus live nation venues
they're getting away from your typical providers that essentially white label local internet and
We're creating a solution that allows for people to get preferential connectivity. So you don't miss the big game touchdown or
a game-winning basketball shot or
Livestream doesn't get jammed up at the concert that you're at, etc
Etc and you know right now on airplanes and in certain places you can pay for preferential access to
Internet like for five bucks or ten bucks. You can get connected for a certain period of time
That is a huge fucking revenue driver
Especially for athletes that can benefit from name and likeness
These days so at stadiums and conferences and festivals
This is also a technology that like I'm advising for and passing around and four to zero
Connectivity is costing the sports in entertainment rolled
Multi-millions and lost revenue. So yeah, we're looking at looking at all of it from all angles and shit, you know
Sand man, I see all the big brains man. We start talking about this
All the big a wild sand man appears what's going on big bro
Scott in the corner man
Yeah, Scott and profits and anybody in the room if you want to take advantage of the financial opportunity attached to that
By the way with the internet connectivity that's open for anybody to basically make pitches to high traffic
venues stadiums convention centers or
musicians that have large show
Attendees like the weekend for example had 80,000 attendees three days back-to-back in LA
So there's it's a good play there for people to make revenue if they're interested
That's what's up missed you guys man
This is uh, this is this is tan sand man, he just came back from Hawaii fresh
What's up
You would be proud bro. We fucking did some deep in spaces with polygon some RWA. Oh, you're missing out
Yeah, I know. I got a mess. I'm gonna get back to work. I know
For a week for a week and all you guys do is just start cooking without me. So thanks for that
Yeah, so there was like a lot of conversations that kind of cross threads here
I guess but like, you know identity management is a major vector which we've talked about like several times on this show
So I think that's really the tip of the spear for all of this including our WAs and deep ends
It starts with identity management
So, you know zk roll ups soulbound tokens, you know different web 5 techniques that you use through like different
You know other not not deep ends as you guys know them for decentralized physical infrastructure networks
but other depends for essentially application for giving and granting access for
Privacy data things like that healthcare records tax records those sorts of things
all of those things I think are going to be at the forefront of all this so
There's also I think a narrative here around edge compute and you know
just like using the internet and of course we we all have to go through a service provider today and
I think you know, I don't know if you guys are familiar with Laura or
Laura wan which is like kind of a long-range
Network that allows you to run on on mobile devices and like different nodes
I guess and I think those are gonna end up being
You know a big part of this as well in terms of like a decentralized network
So, yeah, I think there's all of these things. It's a little bit of everything. It's not just one thing
Yeah, there really is man like that's what fucks me up about this
Like this shit literally started with me and profits with sneakers and Pokemon cards basketball cards
We start fucking around ripping some shit open on the phone. They're like, oh shit
Well RWAs could be what Oh houses watches. That's cool
Then oh shit new collateral settlements and all this other shit. Oh chain link you could be the CCI P
then that led to
Machine RWAs which led to D pin so indeed web 3 is a fucking cool ass place, man
like I stand on this shit till till the day I die like I
Love being asked by these D pin companies on the call. Yo, you're from the music industry. What's fuck about you here?
Shit the blockchain man, like you don't gotta be like I said the other day
You just got to be the maestro
You just got to be the the conductor the director like look away Eric just said he's doing you know what I mean?
Like you fuck about the cook over there
It's just about putting people in the positions that they need to be in the goats that we're surrounded by too many goats
Not to put the goats on the pasture with you like that. You don't ever have a
Group of people that you can just be like yo, Eric could do this will could do this Drake
So I don't call my bad about that my bad, you know, you're right. Yeah, I'm got a
Real world asset company that you should look into is Gold T. M. G. O. L. T. E. U. M
They're tied to chain link and a Google partner and I'm advising for them too
but you got Andre on the stage who can talk about Lumi RX who is doing the medical tech thing that I just mentioned that's like
Literally like insane like I'm I'm yeah
I don't know what's better the shilling of that because I can't wait to get it
Or the fact that Eric hasn't been here and long enough to realize we've been talking about
What's up Andre how you been Sam what up? Oh, I'm so excited to hear you guys talking about this
And I saw NFTs at 700 million Mia will gave each other I didn't know my glasses on like will
But then I was it's like and then there was the Massari report
Then it was that like all the VCs all of a sudden were like quarter one
We're going for fucking deep in machine RWA RWA, and I'm just like, okay, bro. I follow money like
I'm not even seeing the metas crypto Twitter's talking about on any of these lists and here we are six months later
You know three months later on the deep in bro
So Dre bro, like you told us for a year over a year now that this is gonna happen my guy
You you want to know how good it is and like God is good
I'm gonna say that 100% because yes
I've been speaking about this in spaces with NFTs and everybody looking at me like I'm fucking nuts
I was like guys, this is a real use case
I'm gonna show you and because I'm the type of person when people say you can't do it
100% did it so I started building NFC to NFT technology. I started pairing products with NFC chips
I started pairing it or paying it to the blockchain
I'll be able to store medicine data on my own blockchain for hospitals
I already have hospitals that are signed up ready to go. We'll do clinical trials. I'll be able to do patient data everything
I'm fully HIPAA compliant. I've been building this out for the whole year saying guys pay attention
There's real use case to NFTs and storing information not only on the products themselves, but on the blockchain
And what we had to do was the world's not fully ready for web 3 yet
It's not fully ready for the blockchain yet. So I built it out so that we use normal servers, but they're fully
I mean, they're safe. I had the HIPAA compliant everything I built them on AWS
We store the data on the product itself just like an NFT
So it's like I I built a web 2 version of web 3 so that I can introduce them to the world
And that's what I did. I brought them on. I just sent them chips. I said try this out
Let me show you it can track the product. It can keep the information and it can
I allow people to be able to repurchase the item right on the product itself
so what I did is brought an easier use case to the medical world and
Then now look like like Sam was saying I can store medical data your medical data records on my app right now in a decentralized
Server I could do that now. It's here, right? So that's what I say is like this technology is a hundred percent coming
I just love what you said because our big thing lately is like I don't even like onboarding no more
You said it perfectly Dre and you weren't even here in those spaces. It's about fortifying
Like what's already there?
Get them in and then you break that legacy system, bro
But all this trying to do Sam and fuck me up man
Web 3 tech is never supposed to be the face and and hey, yo, I made the mistake
I put it like dough
This is a fucking hat face mask all right here in front of Scott and all these meetings with all this these web to
You know gamers influencers companies and fell flat on my ass
99% of these meetings now, you know me and profits bring this cool shit like Dre did back to the brands the web 3
Back-end like Sandman says you bring this back to fucking the airline companies
You bring it back to what he's doing with supply chain. You bring it back to renewable energy
Yeah, I told you all the other day. I studied garbage bring it back to fucking
Recycling, you know, I mean is everything is step-by-step you guys we don't all know how our iPhones work
You guys know the little bits and pieces and parts inside your iPhone. Do you know what towers it connects to?
Do you know it has its own frequency? No, we don't
So we what we need to do is introduce these companies web 3 in a way that it doesn't matter that they're using web
They were trying to be so loud with it. It's blockchain like who cares use the blockchain make it useful and
Rotate millions of dollars on it and show the use case of it
And now you have real proof of a working system rather than just saying oh we can purchase something with Bitcoin now
Cool. Let's make it actually usable every day
Look at that boy go
All right, I'll be getting into my mo you know how I do profits
I got my playful side, but when work come on here, whoo, let's go
Shout out to the class of 2021. Look at us. You know, hey, we're gonna change the world. We was
Now look at it no, hey even play bro, you're gonna laugh like today on the phone
You know with my advisor on this like bro, we don't even really cover like you don't mean no disrespect bro
like we just know it's going to see it's cool to see NFTs attached to
To all these RWAs and you're seeing like you I'm even bullish
on platforms like how
You know since we're not we haven't talked about NFTs like how
tensor right like they built the dope community with their marketplace and then you drop that motherfucker and it's like
$8,000 for whatever and I don't like looking
Yeah, think about you know, you can do this like you're seeing our WA companies do it now
Like it's just on the wall like and then when you see all that volume
Everything that Sandman be warned us about Dre be warned us is about it's like all right here
I'm not gonna be the one that stands on the hill. No, it's not gonna happen, bro. This is it's all gonna be all these other
Metas, I'm not doing that again, bro
So I'm just like yo if I have to measure noise pollution with y'all on silence. I oh I'm doing it
I'm doing it if I'm fucking sharing my demo car fucking data
You gotta cut you gotta place it and undercover like what I do I call our
Profiles that user profiles digital profiles. It's an NFT
I'm saving all the user information on the NFT and putting it on the blockchain and then that transfers along with that person
But I'm just telling them hey create your digital profile in my app make it simple
Don't confuse people with things. They don't need to know
Can I just say something real quick? This is a beautiful full circle moment class of 2021 for sure
Bro, Dre went out there. What is idea?
He did it he went out there and executed and
The commonality in web 3 is people lose sight of why they're doing stuff
He used to run spaces. He used to be in a whole group with people and and I think
Yeah, it was the only one that wasn't really like grifting you for real
Like anyway, that's the size of the point. The point is that's why I would hang out there. They were just having fun
They were doing some real real shit. Anyway, this is the point
He went out there separated himself from the people he needed to
people he needed to and executed and now he's
He's outside. He didn't have to launch a 10,000 PFP shitty ass project that meant nothing to get funding
He went out and did his shit his own way. Shout out to you. My friend. Let's go. Cheers to that
I did like to give you I started with NFT's off
My company just got evaluated at 60 million before I even sold a single tip
I closed my funding my round is done. Everything is complete and I was sitting there with spaces where everybody telling them
Hey, NFTs are cool. Let's learn about it. Look really actually learn about it. And that's where it made the difference
Wait, you actually you're building something substantial with longevity and sustainability
Asking for money the fuck wrong with you. Why would you what that's crazy
Are you sure there's not some Microsoft paint art that you would like to show on the space?
Look Ryan already came at y'all one time today
Ryan oh, what's up? Oh
That's also a lot of new profits
I actually wanted to say something that Ray just shared and I bet a bunch of people missed this because it was one
Of the biggest pieces of alpha that I think
a lot of people would have just
Not even heard and that is nothing about what he has built or what he is
Building or sharing or creating at any point did he have to use the word NFT?
does the customer have to even know about the NFT and the customer is both the hospital the
Pharmaceutical providers and the I guess the members the actual patients
He does not have to talk about blockchain. I can almost guarantee you
all he has to do is actually sell a solution and
This is the piece that people keep missing. It goes back to what I was saying about deep in prior
The piece that most people miss is that they keep trying to force these technology
Verbs and words and acronyms and whatever else down people's throats
And that is not how you get people to actually use it the way you get people to use it is to provide a solution
That just makes simple sense and it addresses a problem
Hey, right. Oh go my bad. I thought you're done. Go ahead
No, no, I was gonna say all you have to do is like any be this is this for the BD folk in the room
The single piece of advice that we ever need as BD people is be able to tell a story and that's all that
Gray is actually doing is telling a story to the pharmaceutical companies or to the hospitals
That hey, I can solve a major problem. The phone tell a story without a shitty ass our piece. Oh my god
Thank you. Keep going. Keep going. No, I just love it because one of the one of the
the easiest things to do is to say
Who what was it? I wolf of Wall Street. Tell me this pen right and everybody makes up. Oh, yeah
The feature says she has the look how beautiful it is. This is ceramic coated and it's got a gold tip and blah blah
That who gives a crap at the end of the day you all you have to do is provide a solution to a problem
And that's what you're doing. And I'm
pharmaceutical
Medical industry health care etc is near and dear to my heart and
What you are creating is of high value and the reason why?
You have been and I hope you will be successful is
Because you're focused on solving a problem and not focused on shoving some technology some down some other person's throat. So
Again, this is why we practice we practice
Kitching web 3
Without fucking saying anything like again remember what happened in Miami y'all at with the Lego shit, right?
I started piping the director
My neck oh, yeah, we're in blockchain and AI
AI agents, you don't give it to my fucking fucking loud-ass voice spiel and
All Sophie did was put her little fingernail out and go. What if you have one of these NFC chips on every box?
And she's like what what do you mean?
And then she scanned Sophie's nail and it just went to like Sophie's website or whatever or OD labs or something
I think it was whatever she had, you know as the call to action
Yo instantly drape the Lego lady was like wait. Oh wait
That's not an NFT like cuz that's all she knew and this is the director senior director of America's of Lego
That was that was that our basil right survive ran into Eric
So it was so crazy me and Sophie are like trying to talk to her with and then she literally shut me down, bro
She said, oh, that's really cool
But we don't really work in blockchain or AI telling me shut the fuck up
Soon as Sophie does that like at the end it just the whole thing changed. Here's my email
Can you write in a fucking paper to make it simpler for us to you know to understand and right there what you said right?
Oh, I said yo, it's time to only and you told me this too. So I'm gonna give rhino credit
He told me on phone call tell the story like what he just said now and then now I don't even say I'm a BD
No more I go they go what can you do?
I go you tell me the problem and I'm gonna tell you the tech and the network and the people to all bring it together
If that's not what you want, then this is not what I do. And just like when we were explaining
Walmart remember like my favorite thing
Take a jar of product or salad trace the ingredients back to the farm where they harvest it
We just explained how Walmart uses web 3 and the Oracle
Starbucks what was the one we said was Starbucks earned? Yeah has the reward system. Yes. I think I said
Dre I said they earn points with one-of-a-kind benefits
Like classes and a trip to the Costa Rica farm
Again, I didn't say a damn thing about anything, right?
Even Nike right? It's artifact. You can co-create the future brother. You can meet athletes
That's all I said
That's how you get the ones that tie themselves. Yep, right there. That's it
I didn't say so three examples Nike Starbucks Walmart and what Dre did the whole hospital business
You didn't bring the shit up and I've noticed now my deal flow is completely changed. It's fucking like
Bullshit and now I just explained yo, this is what I can do. This is I could do a D pin
What is the problem like rhino said? What's the problem first?
Let me bring this shit to your problem
You're about to tell everybody this too because this is with my favorite part the FDA just passed a new act
It's called the DSCSA
DSCSA you got anybody can go look this up right now drug supply and chain act
electronic tracking for
medicine becomes mandatory in the United States
2024 and guess who is the leading company that's been building that out for the last two years
But now I got something also for all your clients that you can give them
Every single medical company in the United States is gonna have
You know what they didn't ask for in that in that act
They didn't ask for provenance or immutability or NFTs or yeah census mechanisms or wallets or
Any of that stuff just so you know, yeah, they just wanted a solution to a problem
Hey Ray, Ray, meanwhile to Bank of America with 68 digital asset NFT patents, but you know, I mean
Just like you weren't here Dre we're talking about the JP Morgan shit do this
Only on one channel, bro
This will have a week on one channel me and will are literally texting laughing on one channel
He's going you know going off fucking cryptos this this that bitcoins this this and that and then literally
They had Farooq the CEO of
You know say now they saved the 20 million dollars with every settlement they did just you know barely half-assed and using the chain
literally within like
Hours bro fucking hours bro, like like literally hours man
Bank of America trained
300,000 people through the metaverse and now all of their training at scale is happening through digital spaces and
AI with multi-language learning
Everything being bilingual or multilingual to the top 200 languages can be done live and in real time simultaneously
So global information can be accessed. But the problem is American
Americans North America because our fucked-up economy and inflation and lack of leadership and money laundering and greed is
All of our money is bleeding out and it's not coming back
And if you think about Super Bowl weekend and all the money that's just about to get dumped into all of these casinos
Cuz the house always wins. Yes where that money is going to
Put anyways, I digress
Literally money printing is falling from the sky
Literally falling from the sky. I hope you guys are picking up all these put the demo in your car and let's go. That's
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Let's get right back to it. I'm taking those notebook is full Tyler. What's up, man?
Whenever that mic works
There we go, we got it. What's up profit stop Scott. What's up will now, dude
I just wanted to come up and give flowers. What's up? Same, man people
dude, Andre love it man, I've
Been waiting for somebody to actually give some real game on practical use of NFTs, dude, so
That's off to you. But man, that's exactly how to do it. Nobody nobody when the internet came out
Modern consumers weren't excited about the internet
They got excited when they realized it could save them time and save them waiting on a phone for 30 minutes when they wanted a service
Provided so dude, that's awesome. I'm excited for you profits. What's up, dude?
What's up, Scott? What's up? Well, I haven't talked to you guys in a minute, man
How you guys been Tyler? You just said alpha bro saving fucking the thing that we only have a finite amount of
Motherfucker father time, bro. Yeah, dude now, but you can't pay bro
Again with the JP Morgan because we just brought it up, bro. So what are they doing on just a settlement alone?
they're saving money and
Time bro, and that's all these fucking companies want that's all these sectors want
It's all Jre sectors wants all the I don't need to be from garbage to know that I don't need to be in renewable energy
To know that you don't do that. That's that's the fun thing
That's the fun thing is like you you like cuz it's interesting because like over the like the last 10 years
No, you're good I was just saying it's kind of funny that that you know
You guys saying don't miss the ultimate cycle, but it's true
Like you I know you guys have met met people like this
but like you talked to somebody and they say that they're like a wizard at all these things and
They got the confidence in the bravado and all that stuff and they get the job and it's like a month or month and a half
And they've done Jack all like dude. I'm telling you like this is this is where the makers are gonna get made
Yeah, no, this is where the makers get made because you know technology is kind of cycling or borderline resetting
you know Sandman may
Elucidate everybody more clearly than I can but dude every time that happens
It's like it's it's it's not about knowing all the things that you knew in the past because technology changes a lot of it
Not all of it, but a lot
you know, but it's it's it's understanding how to incorporate it in a in a practical and at times sexy way to
Consumers, you know, whereas like the web 3 space
You know primarily for NFTs are like ma'am. This is what sexy this is what everybody's jumping on and that's the only thing
That's all like. Oh my god, the floor went up
75% you know and it's just but there's no there's no practical use in in the sense of web 3 and there's definitely no
Practical use in the sense of web 2 and how it's you know does something beneficial genuinely beneficial for their consumer
It's it's more just hopium, you know, or you hold a dope NFT whatever but um, but man, I'm excited
Yeah, it's it's it's gonna be
Honoraries I
Can't be a ambassador and web 2 that's why I can't be a brat. That's why I know web 2 companies
Today I thought you already had enough I'm sorry
21 hey real quick though. I'll bet I pop into shout out to the daily alpha pop in there
I see sister kind of in there and they talking about deep. It's I was like, oh
They don't even realize we've adopted them
Yeah, shout out daily outfit. They was cooking bro
Like they was like they always awesome cook shit and it was dope
like I just randomly pulled up and I hear she kind of cooking on some deep in shit with a
With a espresso and fucking chief so like that was just dope
I'm like, it's just cool to like pull up somewhere and it wasn't even a defense space or nothing like that
Just motherfuckers cooking talking and chief bro. I didn't know that man chief. He knew man
He knew a bunch of alpha on tokens and cuz you know me. I'm not a token guy
I'm the I'm the device builder make shit happen guy
Don't sleep on the tokens though
The token is where you motherfuckers gonna get stupid rich
But I was shocked when he had posted the post that you had posted profit or the share with that big crypto dude
Who had all those market cap?
D a deep in an RWA token. So it's cool. That's why I enjoy this shit
I got to go to daily alpha and they were talking about some whole other shit that we never talked about really here about deep
In so it's just such a big area to cover like, you know
You could go to different spaces now and now they're talking about just like the BlackRock on do on do space
Like I'm still fucked up over there. I did not have all them people having Twitter spaces, bro
I was wrong. So like I'll admit it
Like I never thought they'd come do Twitter spaces and dunk on people like bro
Like I did not have that shit in my bigger car. So dude, let's go
Hey Scott
You were talking about the ultimate next cycle. I figured I just try to quantify this so I googled it
You guys could like fact-check me if you want
But guess how much the total market cap on average is on crypto right now the entire crypto industry
Like market cap. What do you mean? Yes, we could just look it up. It's like a lot. Yeah 1.7 trillion
Yep, guess how much just in the US alone companies spend on technology infrastructure
About 4.8 trillion
Okay, so you're talking about at least the 2x if not more
In terms of like aggregate annual spend just in the United States alone
Compared to the entire global cryptocurrency industry or market if you want to put it like that
So this absolutely is the next cycle and I think somebody was talking about this earlier
Where one of the biggest issues you have when you're dealing about like technology infrastructure and back-end changes like this
And as Scott mentioned blockchain fundamentally is a back-end technology is you're dealing with legacy
Infrastructure that people have spent a lot of money on and more importantly you're dealing with legacy egos
Right with people's decisions and opinions that made those, you know calls on putting together
You know that big AWS stack 15 years ago, right? That just is not as efficient as it is today
And so I think as time moves on those people will start to cycle out, right?
Certainly in a bear market companies are being forced to innovate differently
Right because they're either going out of business or they need to save money or they need to you know
Outpace their competitors and drive revenue differently and differentiate
And so I think we're really hitting this this apex if you will or this inflection point
Where and certainly what I've seen across the board from very large organizations is it's not just about blockchain
It's not just about AI and these companies are going through a a digital revolution, you know
Revolution of sorts, right where they're realizing that they really need to entirely
Gentrify their their architecture and I think blockchain is gonna have a conversation in this
I think AI is gonna have a conversation in it. It's all gonna come together in a nice symphony
But these are the things in my opinion that are actually going to drive like macro growth
More so than like what's the next coin or what the next NFT projects gonna be or anything like that
Hey, Sam, and if I can ask a question Scott profits if you don't mind
Yeah, no, of course, of course. Go ahead. Awesome. So I love your statement about
Legacy hardware legacy equipment, you know, it's this whole transformation taking place again
It literally feels like what we went through with
Cloud computing and whatever else
What I don't think a lot of people understand or realize is that majority of the blockchain?
Just runs in the cloud like all the other infrastructure does it just so happens to be the different software that runs on top of those
Cloud servers that provides the consensus mechanisms and provides the actual blockchain functionality
but at the end of the day, it's actually the same as
Salesforce runs their
Email servers and
Their data management servers and whatever else out of Google Cloud or Amazon cloud or Microsoft cloud or you know
Insert cloud name here. It's almost the same for blockchain. You can run a
Lot of those services out of the cloud not all of it, but a lot of it. So the transformation
Is there I think I think the bigger piece because you're you're you're not wrong at all
I think what the bigger piece is is how we actually
Address and utilize the data and the actual services that run on the blockchain, which is fundamentally different
Yeah, I agree, I mean most blockchain software is run on traditional cloud infrastructure
That's not like the case for all blockchain infrastructures
I actually think the future will go to edge compute. I was kind of talking about that earlier and
You know my like grand vision of like a perfect future would not have us having to go through centralized cloud servers
Because we'd be able to access essentially local nodes and and communicate through different networks kind of device to device
Without necessarily having to go through your centralized ISPs
because at the end of day, you're always gonna have to go through a Google owned or an AWS owned system and
You know while you're running a different software behind it
There are technologies out there that you don't have to write with either you're dealing with, you know
Private servers or own servers or you know, whether you're using some sort of leased server structure
to me, I think the real innovation is gonna come where you don't have to go through central cloud points and
You're gonna end up pushing out to you know edge compute environments and doing decentralized compute and decentralized storage
I'm not sure that we're entirely there yet. I know like as an example
I do a lot in content and media distribution and like digital rights management and use blockchain for all of that on the back end and
We don't host any of our media on Google or AWS servers at all. We build our websites on chain
And we don't do it because like we want to talk about blockchain
We do it because it's an 80% cost reduction for video content distribution versus
It's like I don't know if you've been introduced but I can give you a little coin
That's working its way into the deep in space. It's called file coin
And you can definitely do a lot of stuff. Yeah, I mean five points five points a client like
Yeah, I mean in file coin actually just rolled out a decentralized essentially their newer version of IPFS
That they will tell you you know is is more decentralized, etc. There's also our weave and a couple of others
But I think the point here is that like that's where everything is going at a very high level and file coin in fact
You know a lot of people don't know this but there's a company called seal storage dot
I know which operates about 60 to 70 percent of the entire file coin network and that's just a privately
You know owned company that you know invests in and operates different, you know server farms around the world
All right
Just they just have the hardware right and you can go and lease that space and then the same way file coin can
Right or any other company AWS and Google they lease that space from independent operators in the same way
Right. So I think the innovation again is gonna end up being more about where that space is
And I think as mobile devices continue to evolve that's where that space is really gonna migrate over to a salmon
I just wanted to say ask you could you know you you you worked in the industry for a minute invite to
Did you wait?
Like I always say bro, I don't be trying to from a musician
Yeah, I got a marketing degree, but I just draw shit and and and fucking make beats
Bro, like let's not put 40 in terms on shit. Tell stories. Uh-huh. Yeah
baby, tell stories baby
But what's really shocking to me like in a good way is all these
These companies these decentralized like everything we cover today. So all these D pins all these
GPU like all these computer services these cloud services. I
Didn't know it was going to be the biggest web two companies just buying that data right back
Like I'm shocked at like
I didn't know I'm thinking like oh it's gonna be someone else. No, it's like
It's like a ratio. It's like it's fucking Verizon
They're collecting it for them and now they don't have to do the work they could just go by
It's like third-party contract
I have a super crazy question because
Anybody who's ever had Comcast you see it's the worst rated company in North America and they're still allowed to maintain
Business, right
Specifically like it's FCC gated
Communication and so if somebody was like if we started setting up localized mesh nets where maybe
They're none of them are connected to the internet. And so maybe we start running repeaters
That's not shit
But running repeaters like that's OG why you didn't have a cell phone on an airplane
Because old cell phones had five watt repeaters in them where iPhones have half a watt maybe now
And so, you know old phone like the oldest bag phones are way better than anything that you have now
You will never lose a signal with a bag phone. You could call motherfuckers from
1947 with the bag phone the signal so good, but
Let I mean this might be a same-man question too, but do you think they would ever let
decentralized
Inter-intra however, you want to look at it decentralized nets happen. I feel like it's a no, but I don't know
I'm not gonna call the project specifically that it's actually achieved it, but I would say ICP was kind of like a test
Internet decentralized what does insane clown possibly have to do with the internet will
Yeah, I mean I guess might be in my comment on that is do I think they quote-unquote will let absolutely not
Do I think they quote-unquote have a choice? Absolutely not. And so at the end of the day, I think
It's really going to come down to like what the people use
right, and if there's a technology out there that is better quicker faster and cheaper and
More importantly a technology out there that actually allows people to monetize their own information
Right. So just as simple as yeah
I'm not this cell phone network because I get paid
Residuals for my personal information that I allow some Verizon company to buy data from right through a deep in access
And I get residuals on my PII. I think people will adopt that and I don't think that they quote-unquote have a choice
Right, so it's really going to come down to the democratization and the cost of 100% like that was my total thoughts like
monetization and in tokenization of
server farms by localized node holders, so you have like a bazillion internets that communicate with each other on
I mean you can do real-time
IP addresses now right and so when you're doing something like that as a provider
You can maintain constant uptime and you could avoid being you know kicked off by certain things that bust signals
And I mean obviously it's everything's gonna have its defenses back
Well a a tar and a lot of them too are going on like D pin only L ones, bro
That's why I'm hella bullish on these where somebody can just go drop a fucking
Product like you know
I mean like me and tar can just go drop some NFT shit on Pete or a fucking I like
You might not even get in on like the test network like with some of these
You know what I mean like they ain't fucking with you period so like that's why I like people keep going
Why are you so bullish on these like D pin L ones?
It's like because you can't go build no fucking I can't go yo
I have fucking you know like all of a sudden whatever new chain wants to copy what ordinals is doing
You know like go in script shit and try to be like the next bit like I don't like I don't like that
Let that shit be our ordinals. You know what I mean?
So I like why where you can't drop NFTs on that shit, bro
Like if you're not a dope ass project you won't even get out of their test net let alone make it to the main
L1 that only like that's why you got you see like I keep bringing
But comment for RDC and then I think rhino actually this was part of your question as well
This is why I think cloud infrastructure is going away
So if you look up at the top at the Megatron here or the jumbo trial
This is called the Kurzweil curve
I don't know if you guys know Ray Kurzweil, but you know
He's kind of a futurist like leader in AI one of the founders of the Singularity Institute out in, California
Which is essentially like an executive training kind of?
Organization I guess that focuses on AI and blockchain and emerging tech just as like a concept
They bring a lot of different like fortune 100 fortune 500 executives through that training, and I'm not I haven't been through it
I just follow it and love their content, but what you can see from this curve is
essentially a a
very predictable line in terms of the capabilities for your simple mobile device and its computational power and
If you look at like that out vector at the very top you can see that essentially within 20 to 30 years
the the capabilities of the mobile phone and the cost of
being able to have that kind of technology in the palm of our hand is going to be exponential and
I think we've said this on a space
You know a different week or whatever
But I think that the stat is we produce as much data in two days right now in
2023 2024 right as we did in a full 12 month cycle just a decade ago
So we were going through this data explosion of sorts right and it's why all the chip
Technologies are having to kind of keep up with it right and the cost of producing that has to maintain
Efficiency so that people can like actually have these very high powered iPhones or whatever in their devices
But my point is is that what I believe will happen is these nodes these quote-unquote server farms that we're talking about here
We'll actually just be our own cell phones
Right and everything's going to operate local
Really good example
If the FBI comes for anybody it's not me
Okay, I don't think that's a possible like I'm not just gonna. I'm just gonna call it like there's
Cloud cloud computing and cloud management is needed like you you have to have it for things like instructions
There's no way it'll fit on a phone
Absolutely zero. Well. I mean you have to understand the technology is different right?
I mean you have to understand that the way decentralized compute specifically works is
Hyper-efficient because it essentially does distributed in parallel compute
Which is way more efficient than traditional centralized computing capabilities, so as an example
When we we use blockchain for video content distribution on the internet right and we can do that
Exponentially better than a traditional video content distribution model
And we can do that because of the way the tech works where we take a video and we break it up into
You know billions of different pieces
Kind of like a PFP and we build that video real time through a smart contract when a user has rights to view it
right and so we take this massive file of data and
Almost like what you know if you're a Bitcoin maxi
Or I guess an ordinals maxi the way those recursions work
Where you kind of have everything sharded out into different pieces and that's why decentralized compute will stay lightweight
I think the bigger issue is going to be around encryption and
Is like the different encryption tech going to evolve, but we're talking two different things here same matter. I'm talking specifically like
I'll tell you in the engineering field like we have
An engineer is as far as you can get when it comes to fields, right?
it hasn't advanced enough to be able to crunch down the
The model types and the model sizes like it's just they're so big
like if you were to like create a wall or door or anything like that within
The Revit software like there's just no way to bring that down unless somebody comes out and out competes Autodesk
Which basically has a monopoly on the entire world when it comes to when it comes to construction and construction software
You know, I I hear you I just think that you might be surprised
when you realize how far the
Comp, you know, like the compute side of the centralized
Capabilities has really come and like it definitely will
Like a will I'm gonna put you I'm gonna put you on to something crazy
There's a guy I know that does a lot of work in blender with geometric nodes
And I watched him define a space the other day and draw some types of things that he wanted and just wrap through
Sliders on geometric nodes and it changed the sizes of everything to fit the space and he's like, you know
I could probably extrapolate this to create, you know buildings and things like that man
I'm really gonna put you on to that guy because what he was doing inside a software
That wasn't meant to because I don't like drawing that. I mean I like editing
Textures and things in blender like because it's physics based rendering is really good
No, it's perfect for engineering. I was actually talking with one of the guys over at quit here in Kansas City, which is well based
And it's perfect for those managing those large like CAD files and all that kind of but here's the thing there's a there's a
I guess I'll just try I'm trying to explain the best way I can but like there's a model and all that
Well, there's a difference between what a revit file has and what like an architect does, right?
So like a revit file includes like it's gonna include your loads. It's gonna include all the data that's associated to
To the building type like whether it be a beam or whether it be a door and everything else
Like it's gonna include the layering and everything that's involved
It's gonna include the textures like when you go to render it
There's gonna be a long render time because you you don't you don't just do buildings
Sometimes you do campuses you do you do airports like it's all one piece and when you do it
You how big would one of those files be like
Man I got some I got some designs that are just tools
They're tubes with the amount of loads I put on them. So it's like compression tension from zero to you know
450 degrees from like negative
80,000 to a hundred. Yeah, there's a lot of data
Just send me a draft just send me a like send me a test file and I'll show it to you
And if you want to see a cool example of this
We did a website for one of our clients
Um, it's called air bud and entertainments that dog that used to play basketball back in the day
uh-huh, and we built a website for them that was entirely on chain and we're hosting I think around 8 gigabytes worth of content on
That website in full 4k, which I can tell you is literally impossible to do on a traditional
I I did I'll give you an example one. I did the NASA
Their their their campus they have in California
We did a full scan which is which is it's difficult to explain
But basically we use drones to scan the outside of the building
recreate my life standing and then and then yeah light our scanning and then we do be okay is on the inside and then we
That's how we scan the interior and we take and we try and reconstruct the building based on what we can see
And a lot of it we have to assume and then trace out and so on and so forth and when you when you get all
That kind of put into the software
The the pixelation for the render is absolutely insane as far as how long it takes to
To get that took to play out so you can actually see what you're looking at
And then once you can start doing that you have to piecemeal like you you'd be at a hundred thousand pieces of a building
to slap it together
Here's the thing the the big load on storage and delivery of those files over the internet
Usually comes down to transcoding and encoding right like if we get really technical about it transcoding and encoding and the fact that you have
To maintain data on different pop servers like geographically for people to be able to render that a lot of times
You'll have to be able to download that to cache like on different, you know hardware devices or whatever so that it can render quickly
When you use decentralized content distribution, there is no transcoding and encoding
There is no do
And so that's all that in but it won't follow the design and that's
You would still have to author in your software
But what I'm saying is is that the storage and content distribution of that file
Can certainly operate more efficiently on a blockchain infrastructure like I would absolutely
It would create a better hierarchical structure for transmitting data
Because you know once you put artificial intelligence on the back end to watch how how the ins and outs go it'll start
restructuring
How it how it's pushed right and depending on what time?
Yeah, the AI agents will get to fucking work that's why I'm so bullish on AI agents and all the web 3
Any company fucking, you know using them and a lot of them obviously using them in deep in fucking but yo
Can I really stand real quick?
She kind of just pop in don't let these I know you just gotta jump in we go crazy
I'll bump jump in on them sis
But okay will then it can there be a bridge because if you guys are having these drones
Circulated building and it's taking the the infrastructure of the building
So what we're doing with one of our technologies is we can put NFC chips into every single window scene
Which can communicate back and forth with the drones per se because they can read off of the chips and it can actually give a more
Accurate way for you guys to do the design bar. It depends on the case
Just I'm not trying to cut you off. But like no go ahead
That's why I wanted to hear your brain in the scenario of like what what happened with NASA's
They hadn't kept up with their with their models or cut up with their their construction in general because they kind of operate as their own
Their own city governance is innocent
So they don't they're not required to go through the city and get plans approved and yada-yada
So a lot of the times they'll do a lot of hand drawings and just say slap it up and throw up like
You know electrical panels and everything else and the shit starts getting overloaded
then they got to go back to the drawing board and have somebody come on contract and
Kind of work out what they've done in the issues they've caused and then
Basically, they asked us to help them reconstruct
The entire the entire campus as far as in a 3d model and then they were gonna work off
Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah again, it all comes down to use case in a lot of these cases
These guys will not use the latest stuff. They'll use
Or do old it and then it's all screwed from there. Yeah
In one second thing like we're so far ahead of everybody else you guys are mild year e-tron's ahead of all of us
But still we're like, you know what I mean?
We're way using all tech Renzo's coming in and bouncing Wi-Fi from wall to wall and then just spatially mapping it from the inside
We're just pulling it off the web server. As long as they have Wi-Fi, I know you can do that
I've done that in the military
Tarte bro, they can take that data and map out who's in a fucking room with AI without even looking into the
Like imagine
Warfare now, bro. It can fuck it is
It's not guessing but it is guessing bouncing the Wi-Fi signals and showing where you are and fucking a building
Yosha kind of how's that cross-country trip coming?
What a cross-country trip
About your driving to Miami
Absolutely not
And I'm and I'm actually yeah looking trying to get my hotel for
If Denver got the flight last night, so I just did mine
Yeah, I mean like I have no idea what you guys are talking about
Like I it's just certainly above my head and I kind of don't want to know because that's not my area
That's what you guys are for
My only question, you know kind of look for the back and I kind of this is to you know
What are the hindrances, you know, like to this, you know as far as you know, getting a lot of this going
What are the
No, I mean it's straight up to me
It's the fact that there's been a lot of money already spent on existing infrastructure
so legacy infrastructure and more importantly, there's a lot of egos on the line and
And I think that really I mean, I'm telling you I talked to you know
Fortune 100 execs every single day about blockchain about AI and the number one
obstacle that I run into is
Consensus and the number one pushback generally speaking that I get is from tech teams
Exactly no, and it's because there's a combination of like pride of
Authorship or ownership if you will and what's our
Right or you know, it's there's so many solutions out there
These people are just being parted with different solutions
And so it's hard to really sift through and really find out like what is the right one?
So yeah, like what actually works what actually doesn't you know, cuz there's all these AI companies now
Oh AI marketing this and like everybody's falling into the AI trap right now
And then they're using that to put money into that and that's where everything
Go in the field. I work in I can give you the problem and I can give you the solution
The problem is the software and the solution is 100% and then 100% it can keep up with it
Then it could keep up with what you're talking about salmon
Well, it's the lack of lack of infrastructure support and training as well
Like if you looked at all the panels and keynotes and things at this year's like consumer electronics show they had
Zero zero representation and interest in sharing anything
That was forward-thinking and progressive outside of flying consumer
Flying fucking toasters and you know
It's entertainment but fixing infrastructure on that end
I mean, that's also massive amounts of money dropped into training as well as you know
Just templatizing your whole things for your whole corporation that's been around forever can adopt it
So I think it's just we're in this sad like stalemate so to speak and our capital government
Our capital isn't strong enough to actually like
Go forward and make decisions because of that lack of consensus and that's why
Internationally like where they're speeding light years ahead like we're just falling further and further behind
It's it's realistically our fault for this flip-floppy ass fucking regulation and more
that we've been dealing with that's also
Stigmatize this whole space and made it so difficult for anybody to do shit because all these VC firms are fucking casinos
And they're betting on every horse in the race hoping one of them wins
But those horses that they're betting on have their homies and homegirls working in them
So it's just like this giant fucking perpetual circuit circle jerk of finance and lack of innovation and we
Saw people gamble on the sparkly shiny shit. Well in the more infrastructure
They create the more traceability there would be and then the more often
It'd be easier for us to go
What the fuck did they do with that cuz like think about like if Congress can lose two trillion dollars
But you can't go two days with the negative bank account balance
like that should tell you that there's different sets of rules for different sets of folks and I could tell you I could tell you
oil and gas
We're not getting any higher and one of the major reasons is why is like one of the major waste products in a certain
Region in the United States is lithium as a matter of fact
There's so much lithium that you could be the number one lithium producer for cars in the world
If you pulled it from the wastewater
If they declared it in the wastewater before they put it back into the ground like overnight
It would take you an area the size of a Walmart and a Walmart parking lot to beat out an eighteen thousand square mile
Strip mine in the in the area you'd be doing it in you could grow grass around it cuz it all happens in the earth
Right. That's that's the type of stuff that a little infrastructure and I mean, this is when I first met profits
I wrote a paper on this and pitched it to Conoco in like 2021
Like I created a whole system of giving money back to countries where you extract oil and gas like
Tokenization of production and utilizing like it's a whole crazy thing and they're like
Here's here's what you know
Show gas station and all of their affiliates like there's an exclusive contract for New York lowering the carbon footprint right now
that's tied to solar and alternative energies and
Realistically most people it's so fucking difficult to even push any of this shit through for residential let alone commercial
because of the lack of
market share that we have over that like the land grab opportunities that exist today and
tomorrow are driven by people like us and unfortunately like we don't have those 40 50 60 year deep connections to
The decision makers on that side of the fence. So you have to literally
beat the game you have to literally beat the game and beat the system and then reintroduce it to the masses at scale in a way that
Introducing it to the world softly like giving it don't like you don't have to put it in front of everybody's face
Are you trying to put a condom on innovation, bro? What's up? Okay. Okay
Doctor world with what it needs
As it falls to its knees
At the end of the day there's always a problem
There's a solution, right?
And and we can all come up with solutions on how to how to solve things
The the issue is is anytime a company and i've seen this time and time again
I've worked with google and many other big ones
anytime a company starts to break out and starts to innovate and starts to
Uh push to create innovation for the industry
You'll see them instantly get absorbed by google or microsoft or somebody else and they'll just buy them out
It happens every single time and this is this is this is the problem. That's the problem
Again, i'm not trying to hate on google or anybody like that for you know doing that
But they don't know how to work the back end of what was created. They buy it up
They try and utilize it and then they bury it money. They don't know how to they don't know how to chance it
Sam man just said it though
Like he hit the nail on the head
Like when you go into these companies and you try to get these tech teams to change something bro
They're literally they're the absolute worst
They will they will stop something
If it makes the most sense in the world for the company the business the security
They don't care really honestly, like they're mostly just lazy
Like they've just been in roll for a long time and they're late southwest airlines i'm looking at you
I came up here to pump your bag scott because again the answer for this shit
And I don't know how this just keeps happening the answer for this shit is chain link because the messaging is compatible with blockchain
It's compatible with blockchain and trad the existing tradify infrastructure
No, no substitutes needed like you don't need to change your existing infrastructure with chain link because the message is compatible
If you look at chain links panel from korea blockchain week and listen to sergei's like hour-long chat
You'll anybody in this room will benefit from watching that I did a I did a panel with them and file coin in uh
in singapore as well during token 2049
then they allow then they announced their partnership with um
I forgot fuck fucking I forgot who it was. It was one of the fangs. But hey
No, it was a it was a bigger one
but at the end of the day like they're approaching it in the way that it should be and not approaching it in a
very tech jargon like
Ritualistic you must subscribe or you're a competitor manner and that's like one of the biggest issues with this space at large
it's the vocabulary and the the way that people communicate because most of these people realistically like
They're introverted or socially awkward and don't really have the best vocabulary to be the perfect mouthpiece for their brand
And so they bring in product managers and agencies to speak on behalf that can't speak to the technical side
So it's just a disconnect and detachment between consumer and on a b2b side as well
And it's it sucks to see over and over and over again
Hey real quick. What do we preface a sam and you wasn't even here either with the dre you weren't here. We preface the show
with interop
And how it's going to be a 2 billion fucking market
But people want to focus on the salana shit coins their own homies is jumping on them in the chat
Sorry, I digress but what i'm saying is like that's not fair. You're not letting me have fun. No, I
You're being very i'm so proud of profit, but this is another story
You lucky profit is on her business suit and tie shit now. You know me, but i'm just saying like
Yes, interop is not it's not sexy. It's not it's not shiny
Studying what eric said watching that video you're probably going. Oh, what the fuck is he talking about?
Just like these chain link videos whoever hired that fucking content guy for chain link, bro. I need bro
Can I hire you fam or he she whoever uh in between whatever you are like what entity whatever you are
You're the fucking goat because you're making it so easily and digestible like average said there's no weird shit
The fucking yo, we can move this on and off chain
Yo, this is proof of proof of reserve where we know you really got that shit in the background
Like it's this very simple things that these web2 enterprises can understand and go. Oh, yeah
We can use it, but it's not shiny and it's funny if you saw what's his name that posted that crypto list
What was the only thing that was on the elite list with bitcoin and eth?
So like again, man, like you got a partnership or fucking
Let's talk about vodafone real quick. They do the deal with microsoft 10-year deal, right the iot
AI shit, then they announced the chain link partnership and what are they already doing?
Depend it's like bro. It's like these days. They they tell us the messaging they tell but then I go nah, bro
I'm gonna throw a hundred i'm gonna throw a soul in this coin, bro
I think this is the one that's gonna give me like a hundred fans, bro
When you could just been throwing a hundred in link this whole time and will told you when it was like seven eighty
Seven dollars and eighty cents, you know, you could have been dumping in that a hundred bucks every time
But I don't want to digress again
We spoke about interoperability profit. I told you about me too
Hold on a second. Let me ask you a question
Andre there's a guy in the request right now. His name is sugar underscore daddy
Underscore d or
He's a white male
Throw me a thumbs up. If you think he has
Alpha a thumbs down if you think he has alpha andre talking to andre
All right. Thank you andre
He's actually he's actually got a boom in alpha group that he's the only one who can who can speak in it
And you can lose your money like 10 times faster by listening
Watch this guy. This guy probably was like the biggest gig of rain in the front when you guys just
One thing though because it's like yeah as somebody who runs like officially an innovation
I'm, sorry
I'm throwing too many emojis
Go ahead. I'm it
I'm like, oh fuck you don't want me to say that damn
Um, I spend a lot of time with big companies trying to talk about innovation. I do all these innovation workshops
We get in there. Everyone wants to talk about tech everyone wants to talk about all these like cool
Like advancements and what's going on and literally the first four hours that we talk about innovation. We talk about people
And we talk about humans
and at the end of the day
Humans don't like change most humans at least they just don't
Right. This is the reason why companies don't innovate because they don't like change. They have to be forced into it
At the end of the day
And so I think some of the answers are here
I'm gonna go even deeper because I read something today that hit hard and I think it resonates
Us as humans don't want to challenge. We don't want to we don't want to go think outside the box
Like I I and you know what it was it was an artist post
Somebody said yo, why do you guys keep customizing on air force ones and timberlands?
Let's make a new silhouette and I agree and it's the same shit. It leaves the same thing into business
It always starts with a human like think outside the box
It's okay be a little bit scared and I think it starts with a whole bunch of things
Sometimes they're not operating with their own money. They're scared to lose money
They're only in it for the money all types of shitty reasons, but I'll stop ranting. Go ahead dre
No, that's spot on. Uh, I just think that the human component of this is the easiest piece to overlook on all of it
It's the number one reason why this technology has not been adopted the way it should have could have would have been
Doesn't mean it won't be adopted because like I said, it is inevitable
And I don't think they can stop it, which is why I think ultimately it will get adopted
But I think it's going to come from the bottom up
And coming full circle that depends and identity management and these things we've been talking about
This is why i'm so fucking bullish on it because this is that thing
When you start changing the the paradigm of incentive and value creation
To to now the individual is the one that controls that stick
everything changes
Everything changes the most valuable resource on the planet is data
Okay, he or she who controls that data wins
I don't believe that these you know large organizations really have a choice
I think some of them are probably catching on to it quicker than others and of course like when they do catch on to it
There's cool tech like chain link and others like out there that help with this like scott's talking about
But it just comes down to the bozo sitting on the desk
And nine times out of ten that bozo does not want change right unless his people
Are demanding it unless his jobs on the line unless his customers are leaving etc, etc
And so, you know really that's why like, you know when you focus on okay, who controls the value creation here of that data
To me depends is really the answer to that combined with identity management
Because everything we do we were talking about these um, these windows that have sensors on them, right?
Uh a building, uh, you know someone who owned that building would say they could monetize that to
You know a weather company as an example, right and say, okay
Well, we're going to report all of the weather weather data and profits. Are you listening?
Hey, why are you just telling?
Are you listening? Hold on. Hold on that, right?
Now let me finish it first man before you tell everybody oh, is this your
Yeah, hold on i'm gonna get in trouble, but let me just have to shut the fuck up brother
Can we just make it back first?
But can we just I do I do tend to agree with what you're saying for sure
So and I think through crypto is how the innovation will change
I don't think it's through the companies themselves. I think google and everything else will fall back
Um while while their companies continue to expand through crypto. It just I like I worked over
Uh, I kind of thought out there. I worked pretty much as like kind of like a lead over the entire west coast data centers
um for google for a little while so
I've seen a lot of the high-end stuff there. Those guys are like
They're innovative to a degree, but
But not innovative to another degree, right?
Like they they they incorporate what they want to incorporate and they they ignore everything else
And it's just the type of mindset that a lot of these bigger companies they get they get
A lot of money and they think that they're big. They're the biggest brains in the industry
That's all it is at the end of the day. Um, I watched
Um a lot of companies fade things like 3d modeling and I told them like hey, this is the future
This is where you're going
Um, if you don't go here, you're gonna lose a lot of money and I watched a lot of companies fail
Because they didn't move that direction. I mean i've i've got
over 20 years in the industry, um doing what I do and that that's that's what i'm kind of throwing out there is just
I I completely agree with what you're saying completely agree with with the direction you're going because it's the same thing
I told them when I told them they're gonna move towards 3d and not 2d anymore
I'm like you're moving away from 2d you're moving to 3d and they're like no we're not they're like it's too costly
I'm like costly doesn't matter. I'm like this. This is just the direction we're heading as an industry. You can see it across the board
And it did the industry shifted really hard. A lot of those companies fell over because they didn't move with it
Um, and that's what I think you'll continue to see either these companies will conform or they'll or they'll die
And that that's all the only choice they'll have but I do see like, you know companies like tesla for instance, you know
Really innovative company. I think elan's taking it a really really good distance
But the original creators are always the people that you know
Those are the guys that can really run those things the best way
And unless they're involved like it's it's and which most of these companies don't do that. They'll usually grab the project scrap the people
How do you innovate something that you never created yourself that you never had a vision for?
That you you know, you don't have a hands-in on like you might be able to go back and read the code
But can you write it the same way the person that wrote it?
Hold yourself for a second. Mr. Dre. Dre
Eric it's been a while. I'm gonna ask you a question
And you're gonna give me a thumbs up or thumbs down
Now do you believe that there's any case of stockholm syndrome and web 3 eric throw a thumbs up
If you agree throw a thumbs down if you don't agree
Any just a little bit a lot
What do you think eric?
I need an answer. All right
Thank you for playing
Appreciate you
Okay back to you profit this afternoon. Is that the new thing that like
The uh the question of the day or you like it
Well, no, it's not a question. I'm experimenting
I thought I thought we were gonna
Honestly, eric hasn't been here in a fucking while and so yeah
Yeah, I mean he bonded in basil dude you fucking he brought me some cool ass shit man
I worked on symbolin's party during basil. I was on a coinbase panel at basil
I didn't see any y'all except for scott and uh
I don't we even worked on connie show got 15 people in none of them web 3
None of them. I don't need to know where any of y'all were at, you know, that's where I see. He had some web 2
You know, you know where I was you got it you got to do both
You gotta do the house. Uh, I was at the d house taking of course, you know, this is what i'm talking
I don't care
I don't care about the motherfucking regards. Why do you want to be surrounded by a bunch of dudes that talk on the internet?
They haven't even monetized on the d pins yet. They're they're slow. They're trying to monetize on d gaming fuck
Go to where the people are already at and build your shit
Don't try to build your shit on your new island of pangaea and wait till you have competitive
Fallen for the web 3 gaming narratives. It's so obvious. Nobody had a fucking plan. None of you ever had a fucking plan, bro
Go ahead and say web 3 gaming. Who said web 3 who was fucking who played up
Played a wing played by myself on web 3 company gaming six months ago. Now everybody's like web 3 gaming
Hey try like you can't can't front though like grand theft auto and ea sports and like
Decentral land roblox even uh roblox allowing people to finally create their own stores
is fucking mass
And I think people don't understand like, you know
You go back to world of warcraft and everquest like we've had dlc we've had in-game products and in-game coins and currencies
So any of y'all that were buying and selling shit all the way back then when we called it loot
that's the same thing you're seeing happening now and what's happening is
Nike is making a monopoly for your your closet in these customizable character things. They don't ready player me
Is doing the same thing ready player me is doing the same thing like they're fucking loud and it's in your face
And you have every opportunity to go on these fucking ai 3d
Generative uh generative uh clothing designers and you can fucking make bank in fucking months
I don't 16 and 15 year old kids that are pushing 20 30k a month making digital clothing
Which you might think is stupid until you find a manufacturer that does print on demand that can make your digital physical because
I don't want to I don't want to drop anymore more actually
I put alpha at the top. It's in that video, you know
There he is
That that I just saved all y'all a trip to fucking korea into this room with coin chain link, you know
Okay, but I want to ask a really quick question because that was why I was raising my hand because we have very smart people in
the room, okay
Moving forward, okay
We always talk about these things and a lot of times we go in circles and talk about the things that happen
We should have done etc, etc
Truly, I feel like we all need to talk about is the things that we all can do together to build the space like
In in the stead of saying and talking about like it's good to know what's going on
But how do we take all of your guys's ginormous smart brains and not like let's say swing our dicks of who knows more
But how can we come together and actually say you're good at this. You're really good at this
We got some fucking brilliant guys over here that can create the blockchains
We can build this system and actually create a company that can compete with a google or a tony or a drake
That's why bro. I know you I know you're so busy, but that's why we like
We we fucking we like we're like yo
Allows every sector to be involved no matter what you did
Or what you do not what you did what you do or what you did
Maybe you switch careers, but you still know a lot about supply chain like everybody can cook now
So that's why I told profits and we'll straight up. I was like yo
My impression is about the sink. Thank god. They don't give a fuck about that shit
I was like yo i'm finna just talk about rwa threads
Fucking and deep in threads and machine rwa and then mix it with you know
Wherever ai ages can are partnering with these companies, too
And I know it's just gonna you know sink but what happened now?
We got dark virus making a web 3 trucking
fucking crew like
You got airplane hobbyists coming to our twitter spaces that never bought an nfp in their life nor they
Do they give a fuck about ever buying one or or any of the other shit that we talk about?
So this is the first time i'm seeing without me on boardy
I fucking hate that word now
All people are just seeing is one common thing with you. Yeah, they they they go. Oh you
Think about the airplane hobbyists
They've been doing this for 50 years for free for fun because they like to see the airplanes in the sky
And flight radars is over there
Hey, here you go. Lockheed martin here
How many people crossed up linkedins in the chat this week to turn our twitter personas into professional?
Alliances, right like it may be coming. I know everybody just was like 20 of us that tied up this week
Look, I love it, bro. And now we made a dping group on linkedins like hey, add me to it. What are you doing?
But no, but this is what I really mean is that we need to come together to actually build stuff because like i'm not joking
I want to do shit to change health care if anybody in this space wants to do the same
Please reach out to me. I will show you the validity of all the everything
Prophets in scotts will vouch for me and say that my validity is fucking real. I build real companies
I'm a real-ass person
I will meet you in person
But I want to build with people who actually know how to do it and I can't change the space by myself
So I need you guys who i'm giving you a stage of 5000 people at an ftnyc. What do you mean?
Well, yeah, i'm gonna put you there's a guy named sean karen that buys and sells hospitals in areas
I know him personally because my brother before he uh, you know took his own way out of this world
Used to work for him and all he does is do rural critical care facilities
I'm just going to i'll i'll dm you his phone number
And then you do mine and i'll text introduce you and y'all can do what you do
But he's got big bags in california and all they do is hospital related shit
I'll put you in some hospitals in my state, too
If you want to have a couple friends that run hospitals, bro
All we got to do is is link up network wise say less man. I'll introduce you off the rim
That's what I'm saying. I don't give everybody knows. I don't give a shit, bro. I'm I'm in it
That's me
90 percent of us is not bro all these veterans here trust any of us, bro
Almost this whole stage and we all came at the same time
Every seat dude, it wasn't because like bro. I couldn't stand anything from the music this year
Yeah, like even with ee he did it way doper shit than i've done
But like it only goes so far you really got it
You really got man in any way I can help y'all it's all call me. Yeah, it is. Whatever it is
I got y'all got that's how it goes
I'm just i'm just saying I haven't stopped since
2020 with doing these events that are free entry free drinks free food to women per stage minimum and dope environments and major
metropolitan cities and redistributed
250 000 to the web 3 ecosystem and raise money for the ukrainian art institute and brought that same program
Into university of southern california twice and put people on stage like layla steinberg
To talk about blockchain who managed to proc her whole career and now tyler gozi of empire records
Who's adopting blockchain for all of fucking empire's distribution like the list goes on and on and on and on
The bottom line is you have to make this shit accessible. You got to make it diverse and inclusive. You got to literally
Feed it to people in little nuggets and tidbits so you don't overwhelm them and you can't have tickets to shit
That are 1500 dollars a pop expecting people to fly internationally
Where the cost of just being there is so fucking expensive
But the problem is nftla nftmyc all these other ones like it's so fucking
Like it's literally it's like a virtue signal at this point and rug radio and nft now and all these others
Are also just falling in line with complex and vice and billboard and pitchfork and all the others as well the whole kandana shit
so if anybody in here is actually interested in building live events that are educating onboarding and acclimating people into this space and in
Translation with different fucking languages feel free to fucking dm me because I have
Programming thoughts that i'm looking to fill in like those places that I just mentioned
Bro, we need you to do some more research before you start shilling again. Come on, bro. Go to the pin post
We out here onboarding on the on the all levels
Nah, you'd like to see you'd like to see you'd like to see you'd like to hear it
Witness y'all's growth. Honestly, like i've wouldn't i've witnessed you two
Grow for the past four years in these spaces specifically like i've witnessed everybody. Don't cry
Dre I don't know when you joined nfts tips on clubhouse. I'm sorry dog
No, i'm just playing but i've literally witnessed the growth of so many people that have been fly by night
And so many people that are still here and at the end of the day
It's a lot you feel like you're talking to yourself and talking to a brick wall and especially if it's not feeding you or
Serving you like there's no incentive for you to stick around
So it takes a lot of conviction and it showcases character and integrity and ethics and brand
To fucking sit here day in and day out
Fucking learning and sharing what you learn and trying to put people on you're extending the olive tree branches and helping
Cultivate community and culture which the space lacks regardless of how many sub communities we have
It really does lack the real question
Hold on sam, man. Looks like you don't put your glasses on. We got a hand up
You got to be a little bit more respectful of the hands bread. Go ahead. It survives
Gee sand man. Come on, bro
You know chilling chilling great space, you know
Whatever. I mean, yeah fucking eric's killing it bro. I mean shit like agree with everything
He said, you know, it's like if you've been out here long enough, you know, who's still here
You know and the longer you've been out here the smaller the circles are getting you know
And so it's like it's not at this point like, you know, the og's out here in the space like
We've been ready for the next bowl and all the shillers to come back and just be like, oh shit receipts
We got so many receipts over these years like let's go, you know
But like what sam man was saying to you like nobody wants to go first right like to bring it back like
Nobody wants to go first. It's uncomfortable, you know, nobody likes change, you know
But what people do love is convenience and so much that they'll pay extra just for convenience
You know, and so it's like if we can you know not to use the the word on boarding, right? But like if we can
Get people to adapt
Essentially behind the scenes while they just continue to do all the shit that they're doing, you know
I mean that's that's the real unlock and we're seeing it with deep in we're seeing it with like
Different apps and things like that. They'll just like go about and run your daily errands and in the background, you know mining and earning
You know pennies realistically, but like that shit adds up, you know
And it's like if you're running all of them, you know across multiple devices
I mean some people go hard in this deep in space, you know
they're running like multiple phones like in their car driving around mapping things and like
using multiple antennas on their house for air, you know air traffic data and like
You know, there's no reason why
You shouldn't just start to adapt it get familiar with it
You know because ultimately it's going to get to a point where like all you have to do is turn the switch on to allow it
You know and it'll be baked into any of your devices that are smart, you know
And like that's where I think the when we can find that level of convenience
Then there'll be that level to where people you know
Like i'm a huge believer of the two-click rule like if you can't get somebody to do your action in two clicks or less
Like it's it's bad design or it's not going to work, you know
And so as soon as we can get to a point where it's like, oh
One button and it's like oh i've automatically been generated a wallet that's somewhere. I don't know about it
I don't care about it because I just use a username and I because I hit that switch now i'm earning, you know
Whatever it is, you know, whether it's points whether it's passive crypto whether it's you know, whatever it is
You know that convenience of being able to hit one button and immediately being
Essentially like there's a value there for me
That's that's where we'll see the huge wave of you know
Everybody and their brother coming into the space because it'll be like oh, you mean all I got to do is on my new iphone
Just download this one app
Done say less, you know, and I mean we're not there yet
I don't think we'll get there with apple in the app store, especially as of lately and all their new rules and whatnot
But you know, I think that if we can get there
That's that's going to be the real unlock
Go ahead ray
I was gonna say we'll be able to create a more direct way at least for now bread because like yes, you're 100 right
That's not going to happen with apple. That's just not there. Especially with what?
Elon is trying to do with space x I mean with x the everything app, right?
They've actually already reached out to me talking about my app for the medical side of things
So think about that is they want to encumference everything into that app
So they want all of that information
Medical your your daily life all of that wants to go into what they're trying to build in one central place
But then even further i'll be able to like let's say nfc chips on every single item
In like let's say the next five to ten years
You have direct access to the customer right there off of your own product. That's even more power
Just saying the dmvs are already fucking taking this shit seriously as well all across nationwide all the dmvs
So just think about how many people are going to be interacting just by nature whether they want to or not
Because trackability for things is just easier. It's simplified automation dumb contracts manual smart contracts automated
So at the end of the day for validity for credibility
One of the biggest fuck-ups which was a greedy fuck-up
on meta side and on twitter side
Was allowing people to buy verification because that killed any form of credibility for anybody that actually earned it
so now everybody can be credible as long as they have a budget and that allows for susceptibility and
Like legitimacy. So what that also does is it simultaneously pushes credibility into blockchain?
Where as long as it's not your keys not your wallet as long as you have your shit
And you keep your shit soul bound and you keep your shit tight
That's the equivalent of your social security card and that's the direction things are going
Yeah, it's crazy in colorado
You can already like you have an app from the colorado state dmv that you can keep your license on and it's valid enough to
Where like you can show cops you can they scan it at a bar if you don't have your
Yeah, yeah, it's crazy and it's like yo 17 year old me trying to buy like like a 12 pack at the bodega
Fake like you know, like holy hell now it's just on my phone. It's crazy. We're getting there
But what uk is doing right now with their ledger system. They're already
Digitizing people like they're creating they have your license. They have your social secure or whatever. They're they use to track people
In there your your medical records will be all in this ledger that they're going to be giving to every single person
Now in the uk, so imagine once that gets here
So there'll be a system that has a ledger in which we can have our medicines our daily usage
Uh our clothes our our cars imagine
Okay tesla is your your nft is your wallet and you walk up to the car already, right?
You don't even have to access the card against the car
So now you just need the nft which is the title that you own that specific car
As long as you own a title to a tesla, maybe you could walk up to any tesla and just use that
I'm just saying it goes further guys. They go so far
I want to I want to add on top of that too
Um, yeah, estonia has been doing what you're talking about in the uk since 2012
Which is insane that like other countries are just like are just coming around to doing it
But yeah, I mean i'd love to see the uk doing that and more the western european countries doing that maybe you'll
See more us states because the federal government's going to take forever
That's like dids are going to be so important, you know
Definitely like do research and look into any of the teams and companies that are working solely on dids, you know, not digital
identities
But you decentralized identifying documents
Info on that absolutely homie i'll hit you in dms. Thank you bread. So, uh, you you get your eye scan with world coin yet
For that for that little free peso or two
Hell no, bro
No, but that that whole system is like predatory as fuck and going into third world countries and you know
That's that's just their growth strategy as they would like to package and brand it as they exploit
But the title transfers on chain is definitely coming soon as well
And that way you can see when a car has been previously repossessed or damaged or resurfaced etc
So it's all coming down the pipeline
It's just a matter of being ahead of it or being in the gray because you have the black the white and the gray
And typically in life you want to stay in the gray
So you can be in the know when things are moving and shaking so you don't get left behind
It's fascinating though
There's a big announcement coming or tornadoes on the way a tornado's on the way
Run duck for cover duck. Oh, i'm on mute fuck rdc go ahead
Land the plane rdc. Oh, he had me muted. It said muted by host. I couldn't talk
I want to throw one at you because like
Like, you know steppin's an app that collects your steps, right?
If you know that you live in a nice neighborhood
And you want to do something green that's a tax write-off they make these tiles that when you step on them
They generate electricity
What kind of crazy nonsense would it be if you line the walking path with those and people who had the app activated?
Could save money
On their electricity every day for when they walk in addition to whatever that did or trade the coin
Like that would be the easiest way
To that's a that's a green initiative. That means all of the dollars you spend on it are
Did you just hear it's hard? I want to make sure profits is listening. Hold on. Oh, she is listening
She's throwing emojis up. Look i'm just making sure i'm just saying like I don't like to exploit bullshit like uh
Green energy, you know, like I hate to do it. It hurts my hurts my oil and gas soul
But i'm just saying like if I was gonna do it
I would probably do an initiative like that in a really fancy neighborhoods walking trail so that they can flex on us
tours or impoverished folk, but I think really like it would do really well in a large city
Dwp is not
Allowing that shit
they don't even let fucking solar panels in certain districts and regions and zip codes because of the fact that it's a threat to the
pre-existing pipelines that have been there with them on
But if you want to make my if you want to make up right now, eric my my uh,
My fucking homeowners try to ask me what the fuck that was, bro. I was like, okay
I was like this network
You let this network big ass ugly ass
Billboards the laurel and all those billboards like they're illegal to put up in a lot of different places
But they generate so much money that you can pay the fine in citation and still have good profit
So people just say fuck it and if you want to beat the system with the stepping shoes get a fucking treadmill
Get a treadmill and have it
Put the uh, I'm getting freaked. Yeah, my tortoises, bro. They never stop walking in the summer, bro
They'll be measuring noise pollution all around the fields in the back, bro
Like you're telling me bro
You see the dodo bird that just goes for the water back and back and back and back and back and that just keeps hitting
The keyboard or whatever you put it in front of you do that for stepping shoes and you beat the game
Oh my god
Machi's on a different time zone. I never get to ask him
What do you think of deep pins machi? Are you invested? Are you are you buying rwa deep pin projects?
Are you bullish? Are you bearish?
Didn't even know what a deep in is just rwa heard of but no deep in
So no, I I don't have any in my bullish. Yeah, why not? We're taking like some some like traditional
Finance stuff and and uh sucking it into our world, right? I think it's good
That's that's the whole point right get get us more exit liquidity
What on board you have the ordinals you got
Jason fang man
Like tagging me calling me for lunch every day
You know, he's trying to get me in into the ordinal or into like yeah, let's get in deep
I told him sooner or later
I'll be waiting
I'm excited as fuck. Uh, I definitely want ape chain alpha. Are we did you guys close the proposal? What's going on with that?
I think we made some edits. I'm not sure if they're gonna
Accept those edits or whatnot. But um, I feel good going into it. It's like, um
I guess they they're lumping us with team optimism
We are pretty that's our leading choice
It's not been confirmed confirmed
But yeah right now it's like it looks like we're the team optimism one a team in optimism and
What's arbitrary?
That's the funny thing. I feel bad for arbitrant to be associated with horizon, but it is what it is
That's that's arbitrant's problem
Um polygon is alone. They don't have a team
I think there was a zk sink. They don't really have a team either. So
I don't know like I don't think
I will see I actually believe
I'm gonna go into it believing that our dial is gonna make the right decision and then
I'm gonna help them make the right decision by campaigning
Yeah, I feel good. I feel good going into it. Uh, we added like, um, I don't know people that know the fun, uh, the thundercore
chain from like
2018 or something
It was the first change
to do evm, um
The x ceo and cto, uh, he just joined the 18
Feels pretty good like one more dude. Actually that guy comes with the most experience out of
Everybody he was he's like the last person not to join the team, but he has the most experience
Running a chain tech and whatever overall of course thunder that thunder chain ain't doing well, right?
Who the fuck knows thunder chain today, but?
He ran a real chain like not not like a layer two or whatever. He actually uh,
Help build it and then um run it for a while. Yeah
Hey, uh marci, what you feeling about suey?
stop suey say
No, i'm kidding the this suey. Yeah the facebook with the new new programming code like those guys seem like
I don't want to call them real engineers, but just like battle tested fucking engineers that are like building infrastructure blockchain
So they got a good narrative
I don't know, but you know what like they know that I don't know if it's about the tech no more. I think look at uh
Look at and you need the tech that's just a given now
But it takes way more than just tech to make make that shit work
It takes you like you guys on spaces marketing branding
you know like
All I know is blast is gonna beat everybody up. It's gonna beat everybody up
Eight chain can contend if the a team runs it if not those guys those jumps again get rocked
Horizon labs, they got their own fucking blockchain right now. It's called the eon. It's their open network
I bet no one knows about it. Why because there's only three million tv on that motherfucker
So yeah, you have them run eight chain. They'll probably be three million tv again
Like it's not gonna work
I'd say swig is going to have a partnership with the company. That's like, um
Not wish.com but uh alibaba. There you go
When alibaba comes on chain, like I would pay attention to that
You know machi's like with the bd shit like it's like I used to always go oh the tech the tech
But now i'm like dude who's the on the marketing team?
Not even just who's the bd now?
I I try to figure out who is the bd handing off the shit to if he's not the right if you can't get it out
To people it don't matter
Yeah, because you know
Like there's like the main part of the team and then like, you know
You have the silo section off like I need to know who those like it can't just be the head honcho person
I need to know who the other people are
That that are getting it and that's like the the change on bullish on like like, uh
Like that's yeah, that's like how I look at shit now as much as I can obviously I can't like know everything
But I just try to be like, okay
Who can what kind of partnerships can they bring in but not only that once they come in?
Like who's gonna who's gonna make these things work and facilitate something actually actionable out of the partnership?
Not just like how we were talking about earlier people just tweeting about
Uh working somewhere and that the tweet is worth more than them working somewhere
We got bears
What up, how are you guys?
I'm great. I'm not that great because I don't have one of those rooms. But what's going on though?
I just wanted to I hadn't I hadn't really checked in on
Uh, sort of the ape coin ecosystem ever since our proposal. I was just wondering what's going on. Where's it headed?
What are you guys doing?
Like what's the headline for it?
I don't know who answers that maybe mochi because he's because he's because it's the mochi dao
It's the mochi dao mochi dao with the one eight coin
I went from uh, six point seven million eight coin down to one eight coin
Maybe you should resubmit your proposal back. Did you really did you really divest everything?
Yeah, yeah, I got one eight eight coin blockchain. Don't lie. When did you do that? Check them?
I saw horizon like vote one of their guys into uh, the ape coin council again and uh
And then polly got
Buying up an ape coin position so that they could get ready to vote on their ape chain. But um
Whatever's I was like, man, this is a good time to exit these motherfuckers bought I just dumped my ape coin on these guys
So I had no idea. So do you not really have like a take on it then or like any oh, yeah
Of course I do. Like I said before when I do this stuff
I'm not getting paid for it. I'm doing it because uh, it's my gang and i'm down to do the drive by
You know, I pull the trigger. I'm a trigger man for the for the dao
So i'm still gonna go into ape chain hard as hell
Now now it's even less so like that polygon seat the new polygon ceo took a shot at me saying
They didn't pay me. So I don't want to vote for the shitty proposal. I was like nah, man, your proposal is just shitty
But it's better now. It's better now before they wanted us to pay
3 million us a 3.6 million us to
to run our chain for us, but now
For the privilege of running our chain. They're paying us 3.6 million. So
I did I did okay job negotiating for the dao. I remember when he brought that up. I thought that yes
It's good that you guys ended up leveraging
The way you should and getting paid for it. Um, the last thing i'll say is machi
You said you would sweep wizards after you voted our project our proposal down when when machi wizard sweep
I had did go, you know, I I seriously did go take a look at the wizards
I am still shopping and i'm looking at him. I didn't say I was gonna sweep
I said i'm gonna look at because I like you and
The other other guy uh dota dota
Yeah, dota dota
So i'm kind of just kind of just josh i'm kind of just joshan
But you didn't say I said I said I put it out there and I just wished it to be so
That's it
I did take a look and I saw gordon goner pick one up. So, you know, it's
It's all good. You guys are you guys are goaded
Yeah, that was he dude. He's got such a fucking clean wizard. Oh beautiful
But you're a nerd you belong with us dog. You're a wizard homie. Come on
Yeah, I I did play dungeon dragons, man. I had a
Vorpal sword and everything
Love it. All right. Well, I just want to say what's up. Everybody profits. Thank you for just
Fucking grinding all the time every time I fucking go on to twitter, which is basically a thousand times a day
Half the time you're you're fucking on here. So thank you and I hope everybody's feeling better about about everything. I I feel like uh
I feel like things are looking up people and for all the people out there, you're just like kept on going man
Take a shot. It's almost time again
Absolutely. Almost time dude. It's been going up, man
It's about time for you to come in and be everybody's exit liquid. That's what it is coming up by the top
Come jump in man. Water's warm
You know be the top signal
We did uh, we did that ordinal man, we did the ordinal man did pretty well
We saw you did a ordinal man. All right bear snake. I don't feel bad for you guys, man
You'll have to blop some more hug ordo
You guys did an ordinal man bear snake how did yeah
Uh, it was good. We did uh, well like last february, I guess like a year ago because it's almost february
We minted 10 sub 1k ordinals
uh, which is my pfp right now and then we did like a sub collection of 666 and we did uh
An auction and they yeah the we gave 66 away to the community
For people like engaging, uh with it and then also so then 600 sold and and they all sold out at
Point two bit so it was a good. It was a good minute. All right. Nice
Yeah, I gotta inscribe my birthday on that motherfucker something man
I want to describe my name
It just reminds me of like the pyramids of the great wall of china and you just gotta like
You gotta scribe something onto that blockchain
Yep, I inscribe. I inscribe my view is there. We are on the chain. We're on bitcoin. What's up salmon?
Man my arm is getting swollen spark over here. That's all I gotta say. I don't want to hear any complaints man. What's up?
Uh, I forget what I was gonna ask
I think I was gonna ask motivation when he was gonna put profits on stage talking about all these fucking events
But I do have a question for I mean I got 40 slots for an official stage nftmyc and
And who's guess who sponsor and get oh shit, oh
You guys will be there I do have a question for machi though
So why is it an l2?
Like everybody you mentioned
And in my opinion l2s are just like ngmi, especially if you're gonna build your own blockchain
Why would you ever make it settle on something else?
So yeah, what's your comment on that?
that's like, uh
Pretty much. Everybody's at eth maxi in this
in this neck of the woods
You know, I mean at least for me too, right like, uh, the board ape is is uh
is minted on eth
and just kind of like
If the italic says this is the way they're expanding
Ethereum and the whole community is kind of like developing it and building these l2s out
Um, I I just feel like that's what we're here. I mean
Like how many of these like solo?
Uh, you know side chains or like evm compatible l1s ended up just becoming a layer layer, too
You know, they already fought that war and and they're done
Now one's like sweet with like a brand new narrative again. I mean you need a narrative, right?
You want to be an l1. You can't be like
You can you can like the devs on on on the a team can definitely build a layer one
One of them is from a layer one thundercore. I just talked about it and it's like
Well, if the thunder chain ate shit
Uh, you know, it's not gonna go much better this time around either
Uh, I think sweet if you like fuck the tech is super rough and
The engineers like have their own story like they're legit as fuck, you know, they're they're structural engineers. So they're
they're really good so
you know, I'm again, it's kind of they're gonna need profit sky and these guys come in and
Help show that chain or yeah, but they don't need they don't need any narrative
I mean they already have the narrative which is a chain, right?
I mean they've got yuga as the narrative
So I mean to me this should be you know a permission to l1 blockchain that is really owned and operated by
That's what i'm saying. I needed a plus team. I don't know who's advising y'all over there
But yeah, I would not do this as a public blockchain. I don't think you care about whether or not there's a
A tvl or any kind of usage on the blockchain like this is a yuga owned blockchain for yuga
You know based utilities and it should be built like custom for you know
The use cases that yuga wants whether that's gaming or merchandising or d-pen or you know
Mpc, whatever it is that they're trying to do with their with their roadmap
It should be custom built towards that. Um versus just trying to reconfigure some public blockchain
It should be an ecosystem
It should be an ecosystem specifically built for everybody that already has a made by a product and the future
Roadmap and game plan of what they're looking to do in terms of a marketplace
Like I bought board eight bud board a bakery board a brewery board a fucking
Car club bunch of bunch of different domains just like that
Because anybody that wants to go to market with a cpg
Like that's something that yuga should have done
They should have bought up all those domains and been like, yo you want to create a mushroom brand
You want to create a tea company you want to create ape fitness brand?
Like here's the resources and will advise and will invest and lead your seed and help you become successful because the more successful you are
The more successful we are and you can transact with ape coin for all of those products and services
But nobody over there
Gave me a chance when I was trying to offer that up. So fuck it. That's what I'm saying, man
They need a new a plus team over there, bro
I I offered so early on I offered way back when I was fucking hosting board ap out club rooms on clubhouse like
those fools do not like
unfortunately, a lot of the people over there have jumped ship and seats have changed and the interest has died and
I've never seen well, I can't say i've never seen but
In this space. It's just really unfortunate to see
Big projects have a lack of leadership and understanding of you know
How to build sustainable communities and ecosystems and you know, those people are everywhere you look at any
Pre-existing event producer that has a residency that's lasted five years or ten years or even a record label
That's scaled like boiler room is a perfect example with their partnership with dice or that buyout actually
Like anybody of that nature that understands like how to build the future of community and then using blockchain to
Tighten and strengthen the communication and the rewards and incentivization
Like those are the people that should be running business development partnerships and uh, you know
That cmo side of things too
Yeah, I mean it's interesting. I mean I I work with web 2 large web 2 brands on building blockchain solutions
Not one of them has ever wanted to build on an open blockchain network
Not one of them and I yeah, I think you would consider themselves comparable
I mean certainly they have the funding comparable to you know, several publicly traded companies
I think you already knows not to do stuff that they're not experts at and they're willing to partner with people that are
the other part of that is that
everybody has their idea what a what a
I guess like a
Chain would look like right like they're they're saying like asking. Oh, is this a game specific like game fight specific?
Is this nft specific chain? Like what is ape chain?
Well, first of all ape chain and you good, um are are pretty firewalled off or I mean, that's what
I guess you good would want just for the scc reasons or regulatory issues
um, but for me, I think uh, it was
talked about by gaga and gordon a little bit and
You know like the launch of it was like a other side type thing
It had a lot of other nft communities other than the byc ugo verse
So to me, it's like a nod like this is it's called ape chain fucking it's about apes
So the culture of apes like me aping in a d fire me aping in nfts like for me
It's it's like open like everybody's welcome to come in and fuck around in here
uh, it's not that serious as in like
You know when people try to pretend to be all buttoned up and
Like we're like trad five wall street on, you know, web three
Yeah, I don't know about that and then like
Um, it's open. So so it's open interpretation. I think anybody can come
Once the rules and and parameters of the chain is set up. So when it comes to that that's a whole nothing
There's no go-to market strategy for any of the other chains
If a team comes in most of those guys are part of the blast
Ecosystem of crew of people like these devs these young kids are all from the same cloth
So yes, you'd probably see like an ape chain point system to launch you're gonna get hype you're gonna get like
You know all devs can earn so that so yeah
You bring your made by apes over and it generates, you know transactions or it it gets tv or whatnot
It will get more ape chain token and it's the only proposal with the ape chain token
So the other guys are expecting to use ape coin to fund this thing or to incentivize people to use it or try it
I don't see it happening, man. It's ghost chain, man
Like like horizons eo eon network with 3 million tvl
I got fucking like 30 mil tvl on fucking like blast sitting there already
That's 10 x their fucking chain
And then like I look at horizons like community building or whatever like these people building community and I look at their
Their their twitter account with like a hundred followers. I'm like, all right
They need to just add profit scott on there
Then they they legitimate can say they're gonna build a community or have some kind of market. I take one look i'm like, oh
I'm like, that's your head of community. Good luck with all that like
No, it's not it's not that easy to build up a layer too
And you have competitors like blast. What are you gonna do against blast? What are you gonna do?
What do you think that's an issue though that they don't have like a defined objective for what the blockchain is they want to build?
That's probably the first thing you want to set out before you say you're going to build a blockchain is like what you need the blockchain
For even better even better than that. Can you guys even put on the basics?
So you're gonna need like a dex you're gonna need well
I don't know if you need a lending protocol, but it's it's what we have on the main net, right?
You're gonna need a lending protocol you get dax you need a stable coin
For some kind of transaction, you know
Or I guess you can just transact and eat which we all do
but if you want normies one day or you want to account extraction you want to
Bring in web 2 then you're gonna need stable coins where people are more used to transactions in the us dollar
most likely, right so
Those are those are just simple basics when I when I when I think about it, it's like, okay
So let's let's just talk about low hanging fruits one
And don't take them from granted either. You're gonna be them is you're gonna have to
Get animoca and yuga to launch their nft or their next project or asset or the next
Stage or next season onto this chain. So those are the two low hanging fruits
you gotta bang the bd and and and give them the white glove service to to help onboard them and
With with the ape chain
So at least there's a ape chain token that you can incentivize yuga and animoca to drop or help them
Get adoption for their game when they drop it on there, right?
Like oh you drop your project on here
You can earn a chain tokens along with whatever nft or competition or whatever, you know
Is it doogie dash or is it the next game later that you can play while earning a chain tokens plus?
You know whatever else they're offering in their competition or game
and and these are two low hanging fruits, but
Like if you look at the tvl blast it's at 1.3 billion
There's a reason because he says he's going to drop 50 of the tokens to to
The devs that brings all the devs the builders, right? So
A chain could also incentivize art, you know
And then the and our partner the optimism team already did like this optimism art our competition dropped
So artists went there to do nfts and then you know, the winners got optimism tokens
So there's a lot of things that could be done that would
You know real interest in real like
A community overall on a chain. Otherwise
It's it's going to be hard even with with the a team
You got you have you're competing with you know, a lot of people now
And again, you could also say that well
And then when I the worst thing I take I get from from people what I heard is like why do you even need an a chain?
I'm like, what do you mean? What what if we don't you don't need a chain?
You don't need any of these other chains
Like I don't even want to hear these other chains trying to step up and say oh, you know
They're better than a chain. It's like only time you say something like that to me. You better be blast
Okay, well you got 1.3 billion tvl there
Um, you got a lot of hype on the timeline
Fuck it looks pretty rough
Like everybody I talked to builders devs and people around me are like, okay
Let's let's either port their old apps over they're making new projects to go there or they they have new ideas
and a lot of the ideas that are not not old ones like like
table stakes is a native yielding chain and like
Arbitrum optimum has got to keep up if you if you have naked eth it's not capital efficient
You know, you're gonna get left behind like like basically they're diluting you out
like everybody
Using every app you're using or if you just move over to there, it's already steak eth
You're diluting the people that don't have steak that are just a naked
actually lsd's lst's have been
You know all the all the hot thing or and then fuck not just that damn reason
Please don't try to pay us
Don't play that 18 maki says go ahead will go ahead what you want will
Big brains are talking right now
I don't I know. I don't even know why i'm getting involved. Um, I I will say this
I get what you're saying machi, but like I would say like always look at the numbers
Uh, arbitrum running like number three on all chains right now
As far as volume like they're they're pushing hard hard hard volume like
Regardless to how people feel about it. So like I just want to throw that out there just just for context to the conversation
Well when we spoke of arbitrum, they were one of our top picks too
That they're not out of the 100 out of the equation until like I don't know we'll see right before launch we'll find out if like
Optimism is locked in locked in is is the the partner of the one we're good
But right now they're the leading choice and I don't think
I think tvl is important which arbitrum has that you know, no problem
Like I forgot what it was three billion or two billion. It's it's a billion or two more than
Optimal blast. I wouldn't sleep on 1.3 billion and they just they haven't even launched the chain yet
but the other one is like with optimism though, they have this like
I mean everybody not saying they're copying because you know, whoever came with strategy came with a strategy now
Let's see who can execute it. But the optimism super change story for arbitrum. They got the orbit story
Polygons like jumping third third in the bandwagon with their cdk. We got a chain development kit guys join it
But it's not as simple as just joining it like like they're all trying to you know, adopt the same ideas
But basically the optimism super chain everybody that joins this the super chain is actually contributing back to the optimism ecosystem fund
Which you know improves the tech keeps the temp going, you know sooner
They got to add zk to fraud proofs all the actually they have fraud proofs on a test net already
Optimism has base
And that's not an easy win like I heard the hater saying well
They bought them or whatever you want to say they got based though. So optimism got base
They they they got zora. Who else do they got? They got some other chains. I've been announced. I forgot who it was
And and if they win this like a chain bid they'll have a chain on optimism
So that's why everybody's going for us, right? Arbitrum everybody's polygon try to sneak in there like sneaky with like help from
From our former eight point council members or whatever and and think they were gonna ram their fucking their the aip through
They didn't know there was trouble
From a guy named machi came in and fucked that shit the enforcer eight point out
Come to hammer that shit and fucking like sent them something running but
they're back and um
The proposal is better. So i'm not gonna sleep on it completely but
We'll see because optimism
Uh is I don't know if they're sending on this number or what you know
Uh right now it's it's 10 million optimism coins. That's about 30 40 million us
So if we get that hammered into the aip, then, you know, I was doing work for the dal man
Well, if you get if you get the hammer
Just let us know ahead of time so we can get into it
If we get if we get the grant going like I feel real good about
Ape change chances of banging it with any other chain
Wait, i'm not catching up since I saw you actually. I haven't asked you
Um, what happened to the the museum aip? Is that still pending?
Uh, yeah, yeah
So remember I got tired of talking to those motherfuckers
So I hired a lawyer team to talk to them and lawyers to lawyers is like
I yeah, my bad guys
I you know, I I must have slowed that process down even more because I just threw another lawyer to talk to lawyer and
That's just probably taking forever because they're all they know they're respectfully they know that they're just fucking collecting a check and they're not
To be a lawyer billables billables
Yeah, you know
You know what i'm about to um
I maybe I need to go back and just you know, take back over the negotiations to finish off the
I I literally thought we're 90 percent of there and we're like 10 left and then I was like, you know what?
But these motherfuckers are just wearing me down. So I was like, you know, I got money. Why not hire a legal to
You know talk with them to finish the final stretch
And that was like three weeks ago or two weeks ago when I had to direct the lawyers
You need to tell them what to do and make sure that they're following what you tell them to do
Because if you don't they will talk to each other in circles
This says lawyer to what three so you're a lawyer
Yes, I am but I don't do that. I'm not I mean, I was a I was formerly a social worker
And so like I don't see the need to do that and I actually despise lawyers that do that
I don't work with the firm. I don't like law firms. I hate them because of billables, you know as
That's the primary goal is to stack that but I would say direct them
Tell them what to do. That's what you're paying. You're paying them to do a job. So direct them and say I want it by this time
check in or
Sorry, i'm a old man. I don't read like numeral English like alphabet
So like, you know, I I did play video games
But we still put the numerals at the end like machi big brother 14 15 or something
But not in the in the name. So check in or check
Shake in or check them
I love your I'll go with check them since that's like in the in the bible
One of noah's sons. I think it's oldest son
So we'll we'll do check them. All right, go ahead
So check the shaker like um, I hear your advice. Thank you. Um,
Trust me. I directed them. I told them give me that fucking money, bitch. That's what I directed
Tell those motherfuckers that like they're wasting their fucking time the whole douse time and just
Racking them those legal fees when we see the cost for the doubt this coming quarter
Uh help rack up those legal fees. Sorry guys
um that first fucking grant agreement I came across was total bullshit and um
Yeah, I directed them. All right
Sorry, it's taking three weeks after directing them. I don't I don't know
I think I just got to go and just sign that shit. Just just like capitulate I got
Yeah, but no, no, I'm not gonna capitulate. Um
We'll get a good grant agreement
You know the final one
Like like they kept trying to throw in something like oh all all the stuff in this agreement is confidential. I'm like, bitch
It's not confidential after I sign this shit. I'll give it to everybody uses a template for future
Grant agreements. It's like that way you guys don't need to spend money for legal to to get your grant agreement done
Just sign the same one. I signed
Yeah, so um
I'm working to improve the douse grant agreement system
You're gonna be teaching people a thing or two
Uh after that shit passes, well, it's already passed I guess but after everything is officially done and the money, you know, yeah
Let's see what happens to the douse
Man, well guys, it's been an amazing show. I love to sit here and talk to you guys all night. I really would
but it's time to attend
my dog and
um, not but
Thank you bachi. Thank you
Everybody else in the panel that's been here dropping off or dropping inside on what you're doing what you're building all in all
Um, I think the biggest thing I took away from today is there's narratives. There's metas
There's things that come and go but one thing that will forever
Ever stay in any industry is working products
tangibility and we are witnessing that right now with
Current things especially everything we discussed today. So don't miss the boat. Don't find yourself stuck
Circle jerking with shitty people on web3 and just in these chats whatever have fun d gen but also
You know have that secure long-term portfolio that you're always working on that you're always building
Um, also if you haven't already jump into the discord link in bio
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And um, you know stay jiggy. Um, also scott has a deep in rwh chat here on twitter
It is fucking cooking probably the best chat. I think i've been in on twitter
And all year, um, like in the last 12 months
So good in that if you're if you love the deep end conversation today, so you can be hip to that
But other than that it's been a great show scott will in glass words
In the words of larry from black rock tokenize everything
RWAs, baby. Good night
This is what the fuck good night ladies and gentlemen, thank you. Sorry, I forgot that