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Before we get started, I'm not going to lie.
Let me tell you why I'm nervous.
I'm nervous because they're coming after all the people that have access to Bitcoin.
So I'm, I'm, you know, I'm freaking out.
Me and my, uh, $3,000 in crypto are freaking out.
Um, we're going to talk about Fed now.
We're going to talk about, uh, we're going to talk about a lot of stuff.
Books knows why I'm freaking out.
Uh, sir, sir, uh, non-fungible tokens is what I'm selling.
Uh, I don't have any money for a flight back home, uh, but I do have an NFT, a non-fungible token.
And as I was explaining, uh, if you're interested in purchasing it from me, it'll really help me get back to New York.
And if you don't get out of my face, I'm going to fuck you up.
Yo, please get back to New York because I'm flying to New York for him.
Uh, sir, please buy his fucking fungible token.
So yeah, we're going to talk about that real quick market analysis.
I won't go too deep, but, um, yo, uh,
we're definitely going to hit another rally again.
I think we're going to hit 30,000 Bitcoin very soon.
Um, probably right before, uh, what happens in May?
Something is happening in May.
I totally fucking just slipped my mind.
Something big is happening.
So I think like towards the end of this month, we'll see a rally.
I, I know books mentioned it before.
I still don't think we've bottomed.
A lot of fuckery to come, but also opportunity if you're a trader.
Um, books, how are you feeling?
Can you talk, uh, blink twice if you're in danger?
Uh, definitely in danger.
Um, I don't know if I'm going to make it.
Oh my God, Santo guys, pray for him, please.
Um, oh my God, say a prayer for books, bro.
I don't even want to talk to him.
Tao, I hope you're having a good day.
I know you can't wait to see me.
You can't wait to see me.
Prophets, if the, uh, the wind keeps going,
I'm probably not going to see anybody, but I might do like a hologram of books.
Bro, I'm going to beat your ass.
So, get your ass, get yourself together.
Yeah, I'm only going to meet you.
Get your fucking self together.
Uh, guys, do I sound good?
Obviously, my voice is messed up, but is the service good?
Nah, tea with lemon, honey, none of that works.
He said it's all a gimmick.
You got to put hella fucking honey in that motherfucker.
He said it's a gimmick, bro.
I ran out of, uh, regular honey.
I don't know if you guys know what that is.
And I feel like that didn't work either.
It works for something else, bro.
Something's wrong with him.
But anyway, NFTs, uh, first of all, listen, you Nakamigo motherfuckers, Nakamigos brought
I don't care what anybody got to say.
Nakamigos brought NFTs back.
Uh, why is Profits not here?
Books, you didn't invite her?
I just came back from LA.
She played a whole bunch of games.
She likes hanging out with those losers at NFTs events.
Listen, Alex, I know that was you who said that.
I got to get my bankroll up.
Yep, need to get a couple of rugs in there.
Anyway, no, but for real, seriously, when it comes to the market,
I think I was down there laughing at me.
They were talked about on this stage and they pumped, right,
just like everything else in this life, right, pumps on my stage,
but I don't get any money off of it, right?
No, seriously, they brought the market back.
I heard there's a Nakamigo party.
Books, I put you on the list.
I haven't seen an NFT project turn around and do a fucking party that quick.
Half of these projects haven't even done one party in a year.
Like, what the fuck is going on?
Anyway, so we're on the list.
We're going to drink all night for free.
That's just the power of saying your Twitter name.
Yeah, Brooke taught me that.
Right, just who the fuck do you not know who I am?
Honestly, fourth event down, she gets it now.
Like, she saw how we moved in Miami.
You saw how me and Six and everybody moved.
You're like, what the fuck?
So it's like it rubbed off on Brooke.
Now she's, like, with that same energy.
And she knows what time it is.
Yep, we're just walking in.
Buckets, what do you have to say right now?
First of all, Roberts, I'm the one who put you on the list for the Nakamigos party.
So I hope to see you there.
You and books with a plus one.
So just let me know if you all need anything.
If any more, I'm the plus one bucket.
Brooke's got a whole girlfriend.
But yeah, Brooke, put her too.
I'm going to beat you on it.
If you guys have any homies you want to roll through, just let me know.
Only Brooke, Profits, and books get the VIP.
Everyone knows all you commenters and GA.
But anyways, just wanted to pull up.
It's a Wednesday night, by the way.
This guy got his follow back for that.
Anyway, Tao, I know earlier you were talking about the Shanghai upgrade.
And I want to kind of go back into that conversation now that we stopped talking about NFTs.
Because, you know, nothing else is going on in NFTs.
I personally think the price is already priced in.
I don't think it's going to be some crazy fucking sell-off like everybody's praying for or hoping for.
I don't think books has done any analyzation.
So, I'm not going to ask him anything.
But anybody in the crowd that has any takes or wants to kind of mention or, you know, go into this, you may come up.
But Tao, since we talked about it three hours ago, have you learned anything, sir?
Basically, for those of you that don't know, Ethereum is having an upgrade to where now that any Ether you have to secure the network will pay your rewards in real time.
So, like, you'll get paid as the rewards get given to you instead of having to wait a period of time for you to get it with the pool.
They're going to be giving the rewards who are staked in pools and the validator.
So, if you had your own validator, you will get your rewards instantly.
If you're staked in a pool, then they're slowly going to roll those out.
They're not going to give them – you're not going to get them as quick as everyone else.
And that's pretty much it.
It's, like, going to be upgrading the Ethereum network.
I don't have the details of it.
I just know what's going to be – sorry, I'm a, you know, Kroger or whatever the fuck it is.
They're going to be pretty much giving everyone their ETH rewards for the staked amount and they're upgrading the network.
I don't have any details.
I don't know the technicals of this shit, so I'm the wrong person to ask.
Dude, you sound way smarter about this than you did two hours ago on your spaces, FYI.
Dude, I absorbed all the information.
Bullish on you, G. Bullish on Tao.
Tao is in his own category, guys.
If you're wondering who the best Twitter space hosts are in Web3, you're looking at him.
He's sitting up here with an aquamarine background.
Don't follow me because all your guys' stakes suck and I don't run Twitter spaces that often.
Nobody – I literally went to 20 fucking spaces yesterday asking everyone if they know what the update is, what the upgrade is, and if anyone – nobody.
Nobody is staking ETH because they have this shit.
Literally, look, even your dog is pissed off.
Nobody's fucking staking ETH because everyone is too busy putting that shit into NFTs.
I didn't – dude, it took me two fucking hours of space to get any value and to understand any of this shit when in reality it should have only took like 10 minutes.
NFTMFers are on some other shit.
Too much fucking – everyone's got degrees and everything when they never even went to school.
Bro, Book says it all the time, and I'll say it again.
Motherfuckers like to hear themselves talk for sure.
100% like to hear themselves talk.
You would think they started a podcast and monetized themselves talking.
Look, I'm just going to get the alpha, right?
He thinks because I'm hosting today the rules doesn't fucking apply.
If anything, the rule applies even more.
I can't even give you a straight face.
Melted, I want to hear from you first and then Saul.
I'm about to do the service, but I just wanted to come up and say,
Books, you're a fucking legend.
I won't say too much, but yeah, you are a fucking legend, my man.
Yo, Melted, I appreciate you, fam.
Just fucking throw a heart.
Books, don't respond to anyone today.
You sound so fucking hard.
Oh, I hope your girl beats the shit out of you.
Anyway, Ahmed, what's up, my G?
I haven't been up on here in a second.
I don't think it's going to be as, what's the word I'm looking for?
Like, fluctuate if as possible, like, with the pricing.
If I'm not mistaken, someone can correct me, but aren't they doing queues?
So even if people want to withdraw their money, aren't they joining up to queue up?
I'm not saying it's not going to heavily fluctuate based on that,
but I don't think it'll be as detrimental as we thought it was just because of that queue system.
But I'm curious to kind of hear somebody else speak up on that, too.
Oh, Ahmed, thanks for pulling up.
You were getting me worried.
Illa and then Bullish Trader.
Let's have some quick output.
Just like on some technical, like, if you guys want to know what's going on with the beacon chain,
you can go on the right-hand side of Etherscan.
There's a little Ethereum logo, right, right under the search bar.
You can get all the real-time updates on what's going on with the staking protocol.
Go to fucking Ethereum.org, nerds.
All the information's right there.
I'm not going to tell you how to do the research.
Well, if you nerds stay up till 2 in the morning waiting for this fucking upgrade to happen
to watch in real time, you need to get a fucking life.
I be following Tout all the way until he says I'm God.
He sounds like a fucking Gen Z motherfucker.
Or, yeah, Illa and then Bullish.
Yo, I had to jump up because, man, I've been feeling the same way and speaking on it for
the last week about these motherfuckers nowadays are just they just want to tout how smart
they are, but they don't understand shit about doing anything that actually moves culture
or making dope shit and tout.
Sorry for putting no pun intended, man.
Like, at one point in the space, I think that was part of, like, the I hate the word
griff, but maybe that was part of the new griff for a lot of people.
Like, yo, just come in here and just fucking put your fucking your degree to work and your
fucking your debate degree to work and all this shit or your programming language to
I understand motherfuckers are really smart.
Is that everybody's talking about the Shanghai upgrade and they don't know what the fuck
Nah, it's just period, books.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, in this space, in general, we always give the most props to the people.
That's like your marketing.
And it's like, yo, then what the fuck?
Yo, I hear that shit all the time.
And none of these motherfuckers do shit.
It's like, okay, you're super smart, but you're still, like, not doing shit because
you don't even know how to do cool shit.
Like, just because you're super smart don't mean you know how to move culture in any fucking
You know what I'm saying?
And that's what people always on, move towards faster than anything.
And I think that's why a lot of people don't jump into the space as fast as we wish they
would because they get met with, like, this fucking book talk, these bookworms.
And, you know what I mean?
I love, and trust me, no disrespect to anyone who's super smart in this space because that's
what, that's another reason I'm in this space is because I hate being the smartest person
So it's super, like, valuable to me to be in here.
But at the same time, I think we all need to learn from each other.
Just as much as I want to learn from the super smart people in the room, they should want
to learn from people like me who know how to create culture because together we actually
Otherwise, it's just like, oh, he's super smart, and nothing gets done.
Like, the super smart motherfuckers, when it's time to do dope shit, and people expect it because
they put a bunch of money into something, they're, like, stuck.
Like, oh, I can't figure it out.
Yeah, because you're not, you've filled your team up with a bunch of people like you and
nobody who knows how to actually move culture in any way.
Have to say that, but, yo, shout out to Prophets of Books.
Like, I love that you said that, Prophets, because, man, that shit has been bothering
I can't sound smart, don't worry.
Y'all motherfuckers are just so out of me.
Yo, Bucks, was you screaming too much last night?
Boy, you sound like you went to about 14 concerts and stayed up for two and a half days.
Oh, man, but, no, I have, you know, I think, I think you're right, Shanice.
It's definitely gonna, it's gonna, it's gonna, it's already priced in, right?
If ETH was gonna run, it would have been well over 2,000 at this point.
You know, like, when it ran on the speculation of that upgrade ETH had last year before it
dumped to, like, 8, fucking 80 or some shit.
But I think it's priced in, you're right.
I think if you just naturally go look at the chart, I mean, the chart's not even really
You know, it's just charts playing out the way it did last year in May or March or something.
I think it was, yeah, March last year.
I'm pretty sure if you guys can go look.
And then, or no, two years ago, I'm sorry.
And then it was, what, March and then April, May, June, it just fucking ran to, like, 3,800
Or 4,800, I think it was, or 4,400 before it went to 4,800.
But if you go check that pattern, right now, the way ETH has been trading over the last
week and a half, two, three weeks, is the same setup from two years ago before we rocketed.
Now, do I think we're gonna rock it?
I mean, crypto is getting more and more wanted by people, regardless of what you hear in the
People are starting to trust it more in the banking system now when the American dollar
ain't worth the shit anymore.
So, I think that is making it bullish, and I think it's beyond politics now.
Nobody gives a shit anymore what a politician says about crypto.
It's like, if they say something negative, crypto pumps, right?
I think we're finally getting away from that, like, the news can affect our bag heavily.
But, you know, check the chart, man.
Pattern looks dope from two years ago, and you never know, man.
This shit could have a ridiculous pump here going into summer.
I mean, you could even see the $3,000 range, like $3,200, $3,300.
But, the chart looks interesting.
And I'm definitely planning a first-take-profit cash route here soon, you know, because I've
been holding this shit since, like, $880.
But, yeah, I think it's...
I don't think anything's gonna happen in two days.
It's, what, less than two days now?
Tomorrow, the 12th at midnight or something like that is when it's supposed to...
It's supposed to upgrade, it's supposed to happen.
But, there's also the CPI announcement, Bullish Trader.
And, last year, when they announced the CPI, there was a pump right before it.
It's just that the only thing that's different this time is that there's this major ETH upgrade.
So, that's why I don't know if the past performance is indicative of future outcome.
Even last year, before CPI was announced, ETH was pumping, everything was pumping, and
then a few days after, it fucking tanked.
It went to, like, a stupid, ridiculous low.
It's just that this is kind of like a different game with all this ETH that's being unlocked,
Which is what I've been trying to fucking figure out, but I can't get any answers.
And I know Ahmed's gonna go nuts for this.
No, no, no, no, no, no, leave me alone.
Don't pick on me today, guys.
I was gonna say, I agree with you.
The difference is between now and then is, like, I think the fact that there's gonna be
a lot of liquidity sparse where people can play around with it.
That's the only, I guess, like, metric that you can't fully gauge just yet.
But I agree with the bullish, what he was saying, for the most part.
I think the fluctuation won't be anything, like, quote-unquote crazy, but it'll be interesting
to see how the Q system works, which is something that I asked about.
Like, I wonder how that's gonna fully work and, like, what time load is.
And then second to that, like, given the fact that a lot of people's liquidity is gonna have
access, like, and full control in their hands, what that's gonna look like from there.
Yeah, I just wanted to comment on what Illa was saying and then just touch on the market
First of all, Illa, 100%, you're so right.
I feel like that's why spaces come, because it just feels like, okay, who can make the
most base point possible, who can make the most individual, intellectual take, as they
possibly can, because that's where they can actually provide their value, rather than
taking those thoughts and those takes and actually actualizing it in any capacity.
It sometimes feels like a breeding ground for people who are just, like, sit at home and
think, rather than get off their ass and do.
So, I appreciate that sentiment.
Also, my thoughts on the market right now is I've been following the charts and, you know,
comparing it towards the dot-com bubble just in the way that the S&P, not the S&P, sorry,
the NASDAQ has been reacting back in 1999, 2000, and similar to the ETH charts now, and they
line up very, very similar.
The fluctuations, the highs to the lows, the swing highs, swing lows, and where the local
tops are, local bottoms, it just matches up perfectly.
And from what I'm seeing, the timeline of the bleeding downward kind of ended back in October
And I feel like there's a lot of correlation between the two charts.
And maybe we're seeing starting October of, you know, 2023, we'll see some form of reversal,
like a macro reversal rather than just a short-term pump.
But just something that I've been looking at if you want to analyze and compare the chart
to the NASDAQ back in the dot-com bubble, there's some pretty cool similarities there
Also, before we go to the next hand, you know, for those listening, take all this with a grain.
This is what people do, or this is what people have used to help them understand the market
I got my first crypto coin, my first Bitcoin in 2014.
My mindset on, first of all, investing, let alone crypto, has 1,000% changed since that
Not only that, different, you know, making different money, and I'm not struggling per
se like I was when I first bought my first coin.
But my point is, though, it's very normal for you to, like, change your mindset on how
Not saying turn, be like, just say no to crypto.
So, no, you know, I'm bullish on crypto forever.
I'm sure all of you are as well.
But just know that it's very normal for you to kind of change your mindset on how you think
about it and how you go about investing in it, because the market is so unpredictable.
Yes, all these indicators are just that, indicators, but they change very, very, like, fast.
It's Saul and then Ahmed.
So, I put up that chart in the comments.
It just shows, like, the amount of Ether that's consistently been staked.
It looks like Berkshire Hathaway's chart.
It's just directly up, which shows to me that, like, the real sound money in the space, meaning
the long-term money is kind of here to stay.
And it's, you know, grown from 2.5 million ETH to 18 million ETH in the matter of two years,
which is insane when you think about it, right?
And so, I think there's a confidence level of those investors that we haven't taken into
Like, they see the long-term vision.
And, Tal, I think the chart that you put up showing the people that are underwater, I
think that also leans into, like, those people that really have that position under 1,800.
A lot of those people are the initial investors as well, you know, the people that came in and
they have early ETH money, especially that first chunk under, you know, under 500 or whatever.
I think those people are going to stay.
They're there for the security of the network.
They believe in the network.
The network's made them into made men.
So, you know, I believe the banks are also coming in heavy on the staking positions.
I don't see people taking out long-term savings accounts and then just liquidating them the
minute they're able to, you know, usually, like, keep vesting that type of thing.
So, I think, like, it's a fear-based thought that, like, the Shanghai upgrade is going to
happen and people are just going to run away.
I really just don't see that happening.
And maybe in a micro, but on the macro, I think we're really straight.
And the one thing that's, I guess, a lot different in, like, all the previous years that we're
not taking into account is, obviously, with cryptocurrency as a whole, it's always been
a hedge about, you know, the U.S. dollar, Canadian dollar, whatever.
But in retrospect to what's occurred in the past probably quarter, more than ever, is
there a sentiment to start to, you know, look at other alternatives to the U.S. dollar,
knowing how much news and all these headlines have, like, interrupted and, like, heavily
affected, like, this industry as a whole?
I wouldn't be shocked that what happens on Wednesday is complete opposite to what happened
last year just simply for the fact of where the U.S. dollar sentiment is, where the power
sentiment is, where cryptocurrency is currently lying in the world, like, the world's vision
and whatnot, and also people looking to explore other avenues for store of value, however
that may look, whether it's ETH, BTC or whatever else, you know, whatever helps you sleep at
But my point is, is that that's, I think, something that's going to be also brought up
this week when the Feds do speak.
They're not doing the Fed talk, like, the regular one, but there will be federal representatives
speaking, and that's something to look out for this week as well to keep an eye out on.
Actually, I have a question for Mr. Bullish Trader, probably one of the only real traders on
this stage, let alone crypto Twitter, doesn't just post a chart, you know, to make himself
Do you see any, like, I'm sure I know the answer to this, are you already, like, putting
Are you interested in any, like, volatility?
Well, obviously you are, rather.
Are you expecting any volatility leading up to the event, or not really?
I mean, you know, like any good trader, I'm always fishing.
You know, I got some buys down by, like, the 200-day, and, you know, maybe a little above
it, a little under it, just in case, because if something like that were to happen, it would
be very fast down there, and it would be one of those crazy-looking fucking candles where
it dips down, and all the fishing lines get picked up, and it rockets back up, you know,
all the scared, you know, people at Paper Hand get out, and everybody else makes that money.
That's the worst I could see happening, so yeah, I am doing some fishing around that
200-day mark, but, you know, I have, like, half of my bags set between 2,800 and, like,
3,350, right, right now, just in case we do get some type of pump, just this year.
I'm not going to say during this thing, this event, but, like, you know, if you look at the
chart from 2020, you know, it's just the setup is just so nice right now, and if you play
the chart, not your heart, it could potentially work out the way the chart says, like, you
know, history doesn't always repeat itself in the market, but it tends to retrace, so
we'll see, but that's my, not financial advice, but that's what I'm doing, fishing around the
200-day, and then I got my first cash out is between 28 and 33.50.
I'm going to go ahead and send you my MT4 login.
You go ahead and place those trades, pal.
Yeah, the one thing I wanted to put in the discussion is no one talks about the liquid
staking coins, where you can stake your heat and still have, like, the liquid version of
it, like, all these other pools that they've done for, like, the last, like, month.
What the fuck kind of Ponzi shit is that?
You never heard about the liquid staking tokens?
I have, but please explain it for the crowd.
Basically, like, for the people that couldn't hold, you know, and just, like, lock up their
coin, you could just do it with these, like, you know, like, service providers and get
instant liquidity at, like, a small haircut of what your reward was.
So I feel like a lot of people that were, like, flighty money, like, they couldn't hold
They probably utilize these service providers.
So I think we pump, in my honest opinion.
I don't think a lot of Ethereum is going to hit the market like what people think.
So that means that if it drops to $700, this guy right here, Bakfi, ain't buying nothing.
Is that what you're saying?
Ain't buying nothing if it drops to $700 in each.
But that's why I'm curious to anybody here that actually knows, like, how the queue is
Like, are they capping it?
Like, what's the interval like?
It's going to be like the sneakers app drop.
I'm sure there's going to be some type of time in between just so it doesn't jam up the
There's time in between for exchanges and for pools.
Not for anyone who uses their own validator.
So if I have my own validator, I can withdraw the full amount instantly.
People who are in pools are going to be rolled out in phases.
But that's why I'm curious.
Like, what are those phases?
Like, what do they look like?
Because that is also, I literally try to look everywhere.
But even that in itself can help protect it against, for the most part, against this
And that's why I'm curious if they put that in place for that or for safety and, you know,
Yeah, that is a good question.
Dude, I'm bearish as fuck.
Everybody is saying that this shit is going to go up and it's going to run up.
I genuinely don't think so.
I think it either trends sideways for a while or the price is going to go down.
Like, majority of people that stake their ETH, the majority, not all, are under.
So, like, realistically, the people that lost money, either A, it's kind of weird that this
shit is pumping now because if the unlock is happening and the ETH is pumping, the people
who are under on their investment, who lost money on their investment will say, fuck it,
So, they're probably just going to keep it as is or an ETH.
I don't know if they'll restake.
I'm genuinely curious to see how it's going to play out.
Or they're going to sell to get out of their position while there's a pump.
I'm leaning on the more bearish side, especially because most people, no offense, I genuinely
am not saying this towards anyone.
I go the books route, do the opposite of what everyone is doing.
So, I just, I don't think anybody has a solid answer and no one's going to know until
I don't see a pump and I really don't see a dump.
I, you know, I just have my fishing line.
Are you fucking with me right now, pal?
You know, but you do have to have your fishing lines out there.
Like I said, if you play the chart and you look at the chart, I mean, the chart doesn't
It just pumped to the moon, right?
It still had washy trading and still went and tested supports and resistances and it
worked its way into that run.
But, you know, I think in my personal opinion, I don't think there's enough ETH staked to move
I mean, there's, there's just not, you know, there's, it's, so I don't think that withdrawal
system with the staking is going to really affect the market.
Um, you know, do I think it's going to pump to like 2,500, three grand?
Um, do I think it's going to dip down to, you know, 1300 again or something?
Like it could, it could rip down towards that 200 day mark.
I think it's like above now, 1400 or 1480, whatever it is, you know, but that is the
potential downside to it.
But I don't, with the way the chart is playing above the trend lines, the five, the 10, the
20s, um, very consistently and not, not getting brought under them, except for that last dip
to like 1380, whenever, um, it's been trending very, you know, upwards, sideways, and almost
in like this little, this, just this top and bottom.
If you put two chart lines on where it keeps getting resisted at, or it keeps, um, getting,
uh, um, bought at, you can kind of just see, it's just bouncing like tout said back and forth.
But, you know, I don't see any of it affecting much.
I mean, it's two days away y'all, if it was going to pump and crypto was going to pump, it
would have already been pumping because by the rumor, sell the news, everybody knows that
So like, I don't think anybody that has a massive amounts of ETH invested think this
is going to really be positive or negative, um, just because of, there's not enough liquidity
to move the market, even from unstaking to, to really affect it.
You know, ladies and gentlemen, we have.
A 300 plus filled spaces.
You know what that means?
45 comments, 300 people here, 45 of you support us.
I'm going to go ahead and address the elephant in the room.
Um, Illa, uh, I'm putting you on the spot.
Why the fuck are we spending $2,000 on sterling silver?
We're not going to spend a lot of time on that.
I know how you guys feel about Yuga, but I want to know, Illa, why are we doing that?
You see, you can't even answer that question.
I mean, I spent the money.
You got to look at like Tiffany's, right?
Tiffany's sells sterling silver for a lot of money.
All these brands have some kind of jewelry line.
I mean, it's more of a flex, I guess, for us as investors.
I'm looking at it as a milestone announcement, whatever you want to say.
We should be happy about it.
Is it something I'm going to buy?
Or something I like or would wear?
This is what a coda sounds like, by the way.
This is what a coda sounds like.
So listen, somebody said this in a tweet the other day.
And I just totally agree.
I totally forgot what tweet or who did it.
And then we can move on next subject.
Gucci just made $3 to $5 million, whatever it was that they would raise, was onboarding
basically new clients, because I'm pretty sure a couple of people that got that codependent
don't even have Gucci in their closet.
And then also a multimillion dollar company, Web 2 company at that, in fashion, decided
to link up with arguably the number one project in NFTs, and now there's a success behind
Now they go around and say, hey, I linked up with you, but we made $5 million.
Who the fuck else do you think is going to say, yo, I want to link up with you, and make
It's a door that just opened for other things.
So regardless of the $2,000 fucking necklace for steel or sterling silver, it doesn't matter.
It's definitely a good look.
Saul, I got some info for you guys on these withdrawals.
It's hashtag win on the site, too.
There's 400,000 withdrawals available in 3.5 days, and then it scales up 500,000, 4.3
days, 600,000, so on and so forth.
This information is pretty openly available, but I think this just rings true to what Bullish
was kind of saying, which is that ultimately, it's going to have very little effect, I think.
There's, I think, 7 plus percent of the Ethereum network staked, right?
So, like, worst case scenario, everybody ran for the hills, you'd see a sell-off like that.
But I don't see that happening at all.
So it's going to be a slow and steady seven-day thing.
Mmm, Saul with the alpha.
This guy might get a job.
You might just get hired.
You look like you are of use.
I want to get into Fed now.
Like I said, I'm scared, man.
The fucking co-owner of Cash App got stabbed to death, right?
We won't put the tinfoil hat.
We know what the fuck is going on.
But we won't put the fucking tinfoil hat on.
But Fed now, for those that don't know, I think a lot of people, I know I thought this,
thought this was, like, for, like, you know, your average person.
So this is a new system for they, so they can basically track every dollar.
They're trying to get rid of the physical dollar.
Obviously, it's going to take a long time, I think.
But this is going to start that process.
It's supposed to go live in July.
There's actually an interview with One United Bank you guys can check out online.
It's pretty well thought out.
And One United is a black-owned bank.
But aside from that, they made a lot of great points.
And if you think about it, you know, cash, like, we talked about this before on Spaces, too.
Cash money businesses are not reporting to the IRS, right?
They want all that money.
So this is going to help that process where they can track these, like, great people have maybe a taco stand.
They just take cash or whatever the case may be.
This is going to kind of fuck that up, in a sense.
So I'm not really bullish on this.
But, yeah, I don't know what you guys want to – if you guys learned about it, if you guys want to go into it,
we can go on to the next topic, too.
Don't you think – and it's just an open question for anybody.
Don't you think it's going to help, not that it needs help, but the use case behind crypto as a whole,
where people are going to start to explore those avenues prior?
And the 10 million times books up here has said, if you can, get into these tokens.
If you can, try and get your hands on these and get your keys to yourself.
Like, don't you think that this will open up doors for people to start exploring these alternatives themselves
rather than be, like, constrained to the one?
And it's an open question, by the way.
I mean, real quick, I think – yeah, yes.
But I'm pretty sure there's going to come with restrictions and rules, right?
Like, what if they say you can't even buy X amount unless you buy – you can't buy crypto unless you buy X amount?
Like, things of that nature where it's going to take out the average person.
But I'm obviously bullish on adoption.
I don't think – I think a lot of people think they're going to make their own coin.
I think they're just going to adopt USDC and ETH.
You know, I wouldn't really compare the two, FedNow and crypto.
So, I mean, FedNow is strictly for the cash of America, not, you know, the coin of the blockchain.
That's what I was about to ask, too.
Like, that's for strictly for them to track cash, right?
It's just within the federal banking system.
So, they're trying to track cash.
That's what they're trying to do.
So, it's directly correlated with cash.
And, you know, all it is – I mean, the FedNow, Jerome's been talking about this for the last 13 years.
You know, like, this wasn't, like, something they just brought on.
I mean, you can go read back through many years of them talking about this FedNow.
And, you know, now they're finally releasing it, I think, in my personal opinion, testing crypto without having to use crypto.
So, by making the FedNow and creating insta ways to transfer between bank accounts, whether it's a business to a personal or a personal to somebody else's personal, yada, yada, yada.
No three- to five-day waits.
If you send it Friday, you have to wait until it comes Monday.
You know, you send money on a Saturday from one bank to another.
So, you know, it's attacking the cash in the Federal Reserve system.
So, I wouldn't really try to compare yet.
I think it's their personal way of testing instant exchanges with our own dollar.
But I think this is a test that they're going to use with our money, of course, to see how it works out before maybe, you know, like we spoke on the last base, like, in the future, where there could potentially be a CBDC.
So, that's just my personal opinion on the situation.
Thank you for that take, Mr. Bullish.
Yeah, I'm wondering, same thing Ahmed was wondering, like, is this going to be bullish for crypto?
Is it going to be bullish for ETH, bullish for Bitcoin?
This whole, the way they're starting to maneuver?
I don't think FedNow is going to have any remote impact on the crypto, yeah, at all.
I mean, the only way it would make sense is, like, you know, you go, all right, so you go from your ledger to your exchange and then from your exchange to your bank.
Now, if you go from your bank with that, that's now cash, it's not crypto, it is now you've converted to cash, and then you use that to transfer, you know, I mean, there is a trace back to that money that's saying it did come from a crypto exchange, it was in your bank account, and it was used on the FedNow system.
So, I mean, I would say don't do that.
I would just say, you know, if you use FedNow, in my personal opinion, like, say you're getting a direct deposit from your job that's taxed, right, then, like, I would utilize FedNow, but I would not go put cash in a bank just to use the FedNow system.
You know, there's so many other ways to still get through that particular cash laundering system, and I don't think it has anything remotely to do with crypto.
I don't think it's going to affect crypto, I don't think it's going to do any, now, when CBDC comes out and crap like that, then, yeah, I feel like that will have an impact on how the crypto market is, but this ain't that.
This is literally transferring cash money between federal regulated banks instantly without having to wait three or five days anymore.
What's up, Graham? Go ahead.
Thanks for bringing me up.
I just, I'm going to give somebody in the audience a billion-dollar idea, and I'm just not smart enough to do it myself.
I'm not technologically sad, but all these stores have electronic POS, but POS is a point of sale.
So why can't we design or somebody develop a point of sale that businesses can use, right?
We have ENSs that can accept Bitcoin, Doge, Ethereum, five cryptocurrencies you can accept with an ENS.
So why can't we design a, sorry, I'm changing lanes on the motherfucking highway, sorry, I asked for, why can't we design somebody to come up with a POS system for these businesses to accept crypto that automatically, now, this is the problem, right?
People are worried about losing profit because crypto is volatile, right?
So you sell something for $15 in Ethereum, and then two hours later you go to convert it, and it's worth, you know, $8, right?
So business loses profit.
Why can't we have a system where we can exchange crypto for certain real-life services and goods through PMS, through a point of sale that automatically converts that money into a stable coin for those businesses?
That's a multi-billion-dollar idea.
If anybody in this room wants to connect, that has the technological savings to do that, I will sell that shit to the fucking moon.
We need to onboard the Web2 businesses and connect the whole thing.
Connect the whole thing, ENSs and everything.
Yo, Grim, it's already happening, bro.
They're already working on it.
I was just going to say, like, now Grim is already doing it.
Ladies and gentlemen, Volan.
Good to see all of this rain.
Can I flex you real quick?
First of all, Volan, he's a guest of the show.
He comes on all the time.
He's actually somebody that was grilled, and then fucking, he just took it like a champ.
Aside from that, just a great-ass guy, good friend, super smart, and my unofficial lawyer.
But this guy landed a fucking gig with MasterCard, the Web3 division.
Been dying to share that.
I know that was random, but just wanted to give you a shout.
Very, very, very, very well-deserved.
Fucking legend, right here.
That's really why I said what I said.
I can't say too much else due to, you know, a whole bunch of rules and regulations,
but it's being worked on on a global scale by several actors.
But, yeah, moving forward, you know, I'm definitely – yo, this is great.
He thought he had a million-dollar idea.
Listen, it's already being done, Grim.
It's still a million-dollar idea because there's multiple businesses, right?
One business isn't going to take over the whole world.
So, you know, just like there's McDonald's, Burger King, Sonic, Wendy's.
Like, you can have multiple companies that operate in that space.
So don't get discouraged if you want to venture into that space
because that one person is not going to take up the whole market share.
They're just going to be the first one to do it.
And the only – and that's fine.
Let them be first to do it because you're going to see where they don't execute, right?
Because this is the whole thing about starting a business.
You don't have to reinvent the wheel.
You just have to do it better than the last motherfucker that did it before you.
You can do the same thing to offer something, to offer better service.
Better customer service always wins out.
Better pizza, Papa John's.
That's a good fucking point.
But the biggest challenge is that when you try to implement a system like that
on a, you know, national, even, like, local state level.
I'm just saying the biggest hurdles that all these companies are running into
is the regulatory, you know, red tape that's associated with engaging with all these merchants,
with transferring payment data across networks, like, across borders.
That's the biggest challenge.
They just don't have the bags to compete, really, at the end of the day.
That's why existing solutions that already operate around the world, they're just going
to turn on these rails eventually.
And, you know, that's what's going to lead to that massive option you're talking about.
Everybody that knows me in this space knows I am passionate about this space.
I spend 15, 15 hours a day on Twitter engaging with everybody from the moment my eyes wake
up at 5.30 in the morning until they go to bed at 12.30, 1 o'clock.
So I want to know about it.
I want to support those people.
And I want to help onboard Web 2 businesses into Web 3 because that's, I think that's going
to save them because the government don't give a shit about us.
Everything in this country is designed to make us a slave.
The work schedule, the holiday schedule, the clock itself is designed to make us a slave.
Oh, we got Gigi up here, guys.
You know, she is literally, like, killing it these days.
Fuck your favorite spaces host.
She just took over the whole Twitter.
The whole crypto Twitter.
Gigi, are you ready for me this week?
Are you ready for this energy?
I better see you this time.
Books is out here on meals, not hosting spaces.
I need to grill him a little bit.
Finally see Profits here.
Profits, are you ready to party at Bing Bong?
I mean, now that I don't have to pay for those tickets, I'm definitely ready.
Books faded me last year.
Listen, we faded everybody.
Like, y'all got to stop with that shit.
Because if not, I'm about to arrest you.
I don't know what she's talking about.
Grim, your tweets, bro, were cracking us up, bro.
Like, we were dying the last 24 hours because of your tweets.
You know, this is the most fun I've had in a year in NFTs.
Like, everybody in the room.
The past year has been boring as shit.
This is the most fun we've had in a year.
This is the most fun I've been having in all the years.
Yeah, he's reluctantly agreeing.
He needs to just hang out with the gang.
He needs to dose of the gang.
Yeah, I just wanted to ask Bullish something.
Like, what do you think the Fed now?
Do you think this is a fucking Bullish trader AMA, bro?
He's going to fucking hit me up later.
Bullish, you don't have to answer.
$1,000 an hour at this point.
I think you want to hear this question, though.
Like, how does the Fed now affect the Forex market?
Because they're going to be doing large...
They ain't motherfuckers.
They ain't touching shit!
They ain't touching shit!
Dude, the Forex market is the largest trading market still in the world.
I mean, bigger than a regular stock market.
I'm making my $100 a day.
Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
And keeping the fucking Feds away.
They ain't touching shit.
This LMT feature, the banks will be able to send, like, large amounts of money at night.
Do you think that's going to have any effect on the Forex market?
Like, a bank is more volatile 24 hours a day?
Forex market is a $7 trillion market.
There's $7 trillion moving a day, so it's going to have to take a lot of bread.
Yeah, you know, and you don't have to trade USD to anything.
I mean, you can trade a yen to the euro, you know what I mean?
So, I don't think it's going to do anything.
All it's going to do is y'all are going to have to start paying more taxes than you thought you were
because they're going to be knowing every damn cash dollar you have and touching that bank.
Bullish is scraping up his pre-made meals.
I don't want to pay more taxes anymore.
Damn, yo, you just reminded me I should probably eat again.
I'm over here trying to fucking gain.
I'm literally doing that now.
Look, there's a whole bunch of clothes.
I'm on my bed that need to be folded and put in the suitcase.
So, that's what's happening.
That's why you guys are fucking me up.
Like, come on, keep this convo going.
I'm over here simulating you motherfuckers.
I said, when you flying up?
Um, I leave Wednesday morning.
I got to go to Orlando first.
Yeah, I'm going to be in there Thursday evening.
Bitch, Volin, you didn't tell me.
Well, tell me so I can put you on these lists.
That's the night of Bing Bong, Volin.
Yo, Props, aren't you in South Florida?
Yo, we're going to have to get up.
Are you trying to hang out?
You're going to have to come to my gym.
And then you're going to have to look like I train you at my gym.
You're going to have to get up.
I know you're not far from where I'm at.
I'm right on the other side of where you're at.
Hello from the other side.
I got a $6 million mansion in Delray Beach.
My family invented Unilever, bro.
You just got a follow back, pal.
Anyway, I want to hear about that.
Let's throw an event over there.
I hear you guys talking about exposing Web 3 and eating.
And then I hear in the same sentence somebody mentioned Wendy's in the same breath as McDonald's.
What the fuck kind of bullshit is that?
None of you guys motherfuckers got spicy chicken sandwiches or junior bacon cheeseburgers.
This is why nobody's allowed to come up on the fucking stage.
This is why I'm eating Chick-fil-A.
I had Chick-fil-A today, so go profits.
Okay, this guy needs to be taken down.
What are you saying in motion?
Yo, Chick-fil-A is so bomb.
I could eat like four of them fucking sandwiches and then literally have to go home and be in a food coma and go to sleep.
Don't lie, bullish trader.
You're just eating fucking grilled chicken, broccoli, and fucking potatoes.
Fucking goddammit sweet potatoes.
There's 300 people in here and they don't want to hear about this.
They want to get back to learning.
Jake, what were you going to say?
I was going to say that Ripple's actually bullish on the FedNow launching.
You're talking about the XRP people?
They helped them launch that shit.
What do you mean agree with it?
Sal, can you like talk about this, bro?
Well, I have to do some more digging, but I have heard this multiple times that Ripple was in consultation with the U.S. government on the FedNow.
They've been saying this for years.
They helped the clients with, like, simplifying the systems and processes for, like, making those faster transactions.
That's why they all got bullish on XRP is because of, like, them consulting with the government on a digital currency system.
But they did this with a lot of people, like Stellar Lumens was on that team.
I think there was, like, a list of high-profile cryptocurrency extraordinaires up there.
Like, this is exactly why I got to run the show.
Can't let you guys run the show.
So, guess what, everybody?
We're going to use the next, I don't know, 20 minutes to talk about why each and every single one of you have been grifted in this space.
And you don't talk about it.
You guys all have been grifted.
Some of you get grifted daily.
Some of you team up and group up with these people talking about what a rug is and the floor price and this and that.
We're genuinely fucking up NFTs.
So, let's have an open discussion as adults.
How are we going to save NFTs?
How are we going to do that?
How are we going to save?
How are we going to save NFTs?
I love how everyone is dropping off emojis.
I think that's a great topic, Profits.
What do you think about how can you save NFTs?
I mean, honestly, it's a good question.
But, like, do NFTs need saving or do we need better use cases?
I think there's a market for everyone.
I think some people like being grifted.
Like, I've been in a lot of spaces.
Speak for yourself, Gigi.
I don't, but I've been in so many spaces this last week talking about the whole Soulja Boy thing.
And there's so many supporters that don't care if he has scammed people.
Like, I think everyone has, like, a market out there.
So I'm excited to see new projects come in with strong proposals for NFTs and use cases.
But I think the normal person out there doesn't care because they're out here trading and flipping, don't care about the quality of the products, don't care about the utility being given.
It's a very small percentage that actually cares that your project has utility.
And I say this because I have one with utility and we have an educational platform.
But a lot of people in here are here for the speculative assets and to flip.
They genuinely most don't care.
Yeah, I mean, look, I have something I want to talk about, too.
This is going to lead into that.
We all, like, minted and bought all types of projects.
I mean, like, my wallet is fucking embarrassing.
I think about it all the time.
I sold a whole bunch of shoes for these NFTs that are worth nothing.
The point is, like, things have changed, right?
And we, like, we know that things have changed.
Nobody's talking about Jenkins of LA anymore.
I'll fucking tell you why.
I pinned it up to the top.
I want to know who's still bullish on this project, right?
We want to talk about everything Web3.
So, again, you know, there's a reason.
There's a reason why we once loved this project and then people don't love it anymore.
What the fuck is really going on?
Because at this point, like, I'm not joking anymore.
I want to drop an open edition.
Like, Tal, what's really going on?
Like, NFTs or with Jenkins?
Dude, Jenkins fucking released this art that literally nobody fucking reviewed and they
actually thought looked good.
And they came up on Spaces and Virtue Signal.
Like, I wish they would jump up on Spaces and talk about it.
Like, who on God's green earth thought that this art looked good?
Like, it looked so fucking ridiculous, bro.
Like, they didn't have any leaks or, like, release any of the art.
And, like, all this time, they say that they're...
Like, dude, how long does it take to redo art?
I've seen motherfuckers pump out projects within a week.
That was the dumbest shit ever.
Like, fucking ridiculous.
And they thought this shit actually looked good.
Like, I shilled this fucking shit and I'm down bad.
I dumped all that shit and wrote off all that shit with my taxes.
Oh, that's what you just used this for.
You just said all that because you just needed to justify why you bought that project.
No, I was bullish as fuck on Jenkins.
Even before, like, this whole art release, I liked what they were doing.
But then they just went and released this fucking dog shit art.
I don't know why they thought that actually looked good.
And the thing is, like, if they stuck with the art itself and kept it in the kind of concept that they released, fine.
But it looked like some avatar shit and they had, like, chef's hat on and Gucci puffer jackets and dresses, like, two, like, this.
The art just blew my mind and I was out of town when that shit happened.
And that shit, like, straight up looks like a rug to me.
Like, I guarantee you nobody read the fucking book.
This account, okay, this account, profits over wages, is very unbiased.
Even if I ever sound biased, I'm unbiased.
I try to have the most unbiased conversation.
Unless it's obvious that I just don't like something, then I'm going to make it known.
Who's bullish on Jenkins the Valet?
Valet Jones, one of the creators, says, appreciate you.
Excited to share what we've been cooking.
Confident they will cover the past.
I'm confident they will cover post the art debacle.
So, Tal, looks like nobody gives a fuck about what you just said.
These nine comments all indicate that they are bullish.
Which, um, mm, mm, mm, mm, very excited to see.
Hopefully, this doesn't pump the fucking floor, because I don't own any.
So, I hope this doesn't, this tweet does not pump the floor.
I can't, I don't got no juice like that.
So, we're giving this project a chance.
Um, meanwhile, you know, you got all types of, you know, I don't know, derivatives, Solana projects.
All types of shit that you guys and your friends promote.
And we don't talk about it.
Um, that book's giveaway at fucking DeFi 8.
And let that shit drop 2X.
Now you guys are talking.
Like, I'm, I'm genuinely confused.
Like, I really want to have the combo.
I'm in a good mood today.
So, yeah, yeah, I wasn't going to do it.
You know what I'm saying?
We got a couple of minutes.
I, I did it, like, like, books is, no, I wasn't going to bring this up either.
But, like, I don't give a fuck.
Yeah, I know how I feel about it.
The shit's, like, whatever.
I thought the art was semi-lit because I got a semi-rare one for free.
No, nobody wants to buy it.
But maybe I got to drop the price.
The point is, I want to know what the difference is, though.
Like, I want to know what is, like, the difference.
Like, what are we allowed to promote?
What are we allowed to shill?
What are we allowed to talk about?
Yo, motherfuckers are out here making fucking crazy money on every other derivative rug every
And we, we over here liking their tweets and their posts.
And retaining their shit.
I pinned the shit up top.
Like, bro, if anyone, like, seriously, if you think that art is good, tell me who you
are so I can unfollow your ass immediately.
Damn, bro, I'm going to have a nightmare.
These shits were mad scary to me.
Like, they look mad weird.
And they thought it fucking looked good.
That's so embarrassing, dude.
Defi Apes art is fucking sick.
Like, I don't care what anyone says.
I think the art is fucking cool.
Like, is it the most amazing, spectacular, one of a kind?
Compare this shit to Azerbala?
When I first heard, first of all, Defi Apes is not fucking unique.
But then I saw, like, a couple of them.
And I was like, wow, they're very, it's, like, very consistent.
Like, whoever the artist is, is obviously a real artist, is what I'm trying to say.
So, it's very consistent in the theme and the looks and the rarities.
So, you know, that's, that's, well, all that means is that's a sign of somebody taking
Like, it doesn't take that much, yo.
Hire a fucking real artist.
Like, this Azerbala shit, I don't know what the fuck is going on.
We should get Threadguy up here.
I think he's, like, the director of vibes or whatever that means.
He probably has a lot of answers for us.
I like Threadguy, but when he said the art is fucking insane.
I was going to put my fucking head through the wall.
He's really nice in person.
He don't really show no love on time, on the Twitter.
But in person, he's, I probably, you feel me?
But, like, I want to know.
But I don't want to, like, comment on like that, you know?
It seems like they're doing refund for the mint.
So, if they mint it, it seems like they're going to receive a refund on it.
Which, you know, at least is, like, the minimum they can do for those that minted.
They already changed the art.
I heard that we're going to change the art, but I've added on the top, he added a TLBR about what's next.
And it says refund for a CERBAL.
So, it seems like if you mint it, you will receive a 0.0 refund.
But you have to submit, like, a KYC claim and all that.
Yeah, I'm not submitting shit.
Let me give you another comparison with DeFi Apes.
They decided to refund the difference of the mint when they brought the mint price down.
And they didn't require a fucking KYC.
Think I'm going to send my shit to goddammit Jenkins of LA?
Yo, what in the sleep paralysis am I looking at, bro?
Yeah, the art card is strange.
Yo, that shit's not a joke, bro.
Yo, sleep paralysis is not a fucking joke.
That shit is scary as fuck.
Scrub Radio, Web3 Exposed, man.
Listen, I'm usually never speechless, but it's like, I was just on the phone call, right?
I get off the phone call, I go see my people, y'all.
Then the first thing that I see is this shit right here.
What the, whose man's is this?
And why he look like who did it, and you better not do it again.
Like, I really don't even know.
Like, yo, like, yo, who the fuck made this shit?
Yo, let me give you the backstory, because I genuinely don't think Six has even those context.
This is the worst part about it.
I think everybody forgot.
This project, respectfully, I don't know.
Don't take offense to this.
This is just the story, how it goes, in my mind.
For a long time, like, literally since I've been in fucking NFTs, this has been the most
hyped project I never dropped, right?
Oh, it's by some apes that support it.
Oh, we fucking supported it.
Let's, you know, whatever.
I think this was, like, four months ago now or something like that.
And everybody was like, all right, let's look at the rare.
Nobody was fucking with it, Six.
The ball has been dropped, right?
In my opinion, they had a spaces.
Yo, the thing is, they dropped the art.
Not even 45 minutes later that they had a spaces about, oh, we're going to listen to
the community, this and that.
And I was like, nah, this was marketing.
I remember now what project.
And just the thing, for those that know me, they know.
Yeah, I was like, you were around.
You were definitely around.
Especially, you know, eight projects.
But listen, somebody had to look at this and say, yo, this is not it.
That's why we need people around us that are going to tell us the truth, not what we
Especially when you're doing it.
Because that shit is horrible.
Like, we got to keep it 100.
What would you do if you run into them in the middle of the night?
I ain't even scared of shit.
I'll be like, what the fuck is that?
The alien's coming back to get him.
Bro, you said that somebody said that this shit.
Somebody told him that this is something wrong.
Somebody said that this is amazing.
That's who I want to fucking know.
That's the motherfucker I want to meet.
You have to go through a channel of people and no one just be like, hey, listen, y'all.
We can't do that right now.
Like, it's like that ugly girl.
They just dress like fucked up.
And then she come out the room.
They going out and be like, hey, girl, how I look fine.
Yeah, you look good, girl.
Like, you quit lying to that girl.
Just tell her to put something on, lose her.
Your role's rolling off the side.
The thing is not looking right.
First time on Web3 Exposed.
So, I got a story, actually.
So, we interviewed the founders of, we interviewed the founders of Jenkins.
And that's one of the questions that I really wanted to understand.
It's like, how did that happen?
Like, they have a, you know, they had like a 15-person team when this dropped.
And it was like, how does this get through so many people?
I'm like, there's no way that nobody on the team saw that and was like, yeah, guys, this ain't it.
So, here's what happened.
At least, like, from what I understand.
Because we talked about it, I think, over like 20 or so minutes.
And so, you have like the founders and you have like the core people that joined Jenkins early on in their building.
And then that summer, they raised a bunch of money from A16Z.
And when you do that, you're going to start hiring a bunch of people.
It was at the exact same time that they're working on this project that, and it was kind of like in a tight circle of just like the people that were there before the investment.
And so, it was like maybe three or four people working on it together, including the two founders.
And, you know, every now and then a photo would leak out.
But, like, think about it this way.
And let's say you're employee number 10, right?
You're the marketing person.
You're three months into it.
And the founders are, like, every now and then they show you an image.
Like, you're not going to be the guy, be like, yo, like, am I the only one that doesn't fuck with this art?
Like, you're kind of going to be like, well, I'm new at the organization.
They must know what they're doing.
So, I'm going to leave them to do that.
And, like, let's just see where it goes.
But you don't want to be the one that kind of says, yo, like, I think this is crap.
Because they're going to be like, yo, you just got here, like, three, four months ago.
And, you know, that's how, like, organizations work.
There's, like, a hierarchy like that.
And so, it was kind of just, like, this really fast hiring spree where, and the project was being worked on by a very select few people.
And they even admitted it.
And, like, kudos to them.
They were, like, the founders.
They said that, honestly, even if somebody on our team said this ain't it, they were so, like, locked into this design and going forward with it that they had blinders on.
They wouldn't have even, like, been open to that feedback.
So, I just wanted to share that because I saw the thread from Jenkins and I saw this happening.
I'm, like, oh, I have a story about that.
It's like if profits were called.
Not bad because it's, like, I'm, like, Paul.
It's, like, this is preposterous.
If profits or title books would have been, like, hey, fam, I got something to ask you, like, and we've been waiting.
Look, I'm going to give you a sneak peek.
After arguing because I fucking hate signing the NDA.
Because I hate to be, like, man, if I say I'm not going to tell anybody, I ain't going to tell nobody.
That's enough NDA for the world.
But, and then she sent me this.
She would have immediately, like, two seconds would have got a FaceTime with my face looking at her, like, bro, like, you dead ass.
I'd rather people to talk shit about you because you're taking longer than usual than just dropping just anything.
Like, it just looked like the little guy.
They're just standing with his hands on the hips and shit.
But it's, like, a half human, half reptile.
I don't know what was the vision behind it.
That would have been my face talking.
As a matter of fact, it's pinned to the top.
Literally, that would have been my look talking to profits on the phone.
Bro, bro, I don't get it, man.
Like, I straight up say this to my friends all the time.
I'm going to keep it 1,000 with you all the fucking time, even if it hurts your feeling because I expect the same fucking treatment in return.
Because I know that you have my best interest in mind.
I don't find that, I don't see that as a valid fucking excuse when they got fucking blinders on.
I don't give a fuck how big they are.
How big their blinders are.
This shit was not it, fam.
Not even fucking relatively close to being it.
And one person couldn't say anything.
Like, dude, it's shocking.
I would never let profits or books or six embarrass themselves like that, bro.
Like, I will never, I don't give a fuck if this shit goes to Valhalla.
I lost all trust in Jenkins because of this, bro.
I don't ever wish on the failure of anyone.
Like, I never will wish the downfall of anybody unless they're a real fucking piece of shit.
And Todd, if you start a business and then, you know, something happens and you're like, oh, we just had blinders on.
There's not blinders big enough for that shit, bro.
You need blinders to blot out the whole goddamn sun and you still would have seen that this was dog shit.
Ray Charles would have seen that shit look trash.
Yeah, this is the direct result of toxic positivity and, like, bad computer screens or something.
I definitely agree that even if they would have just showed sneak peeks to their community, they would have gotten some type of feedback.
It shouldn't have to wait till mint for people to see what they were buying.
If I'm not mistaken, sneak peeks were different, but I could be off.
I don't even, maybe they didn't drop any.
So the only reason I bring this up for the recording, this is going to be heard after or whatever, is because we have a problem supporting projects when they don't mint out fast or they're not done by some person that has 78 million followers or they're done by somebody you don't like in Web3 because they didn't follow you back fast enough, right?
Or some corny shit that we make up, right?
Like, what is the standard for real?
I'm going to be real with you guys.
You know, been in Web3 two years, been on Spaces 10 hours a fucking day for the last two fucking years pretty much.
And you know what I've learned?
I learned this the first six months.
I said, I can't even attach myself to any one project, right?
As you guys know, you know, strategy, marketing, advisory is my job in Web3.
That's what I do full time.
I got on meetings and I talk to people and I do social media shit.
I said, I can't even if not even being a founder, even being attached to a project.
Instantly, people are like, oh, success or not success.
Oh, this person has enough clout.
Bro, your favorite influencers have been advisors on projects, made it a whole thing, talked about it on the TL for six months with great fucking memes and bullshit.
Floor is fucking below, way below mint.
No one's ever talking about it again.
Everybody's in the group chat or talking about something else now.
And now they're advising other shit.
Like, this is genuinely happening all the time, right?
This is why I keep bringing this stuff up.
I mean, I'm always going to bring it up.
No one's going to fucking bring it up.
It's going to be an echo chamber of other shit that y'all want to talk about and dance around in other spaces.
I'm going to talk about what's on my chest.
Same with everybody else that pulls up here.
What is it going to take?
Is it going to take the bigger companies that are coming in and say, fuck us and do their own thing and make money with or without us?
Is that what it's going to take?
Like, they're going to just come in and build right in front of our face, but we're so busy hating on each other that we're missing out?
I don't know what it's going to take for real.
Wait, did they say they're refunding the mint funds?
I don't want to interrupt you, bro.
I'm genuinely curious, like, because that pisses me off a little bit more.
I'm not going to lie, because the price of ETH was a lot higher at the time.
So, they're going to fucking refund me my ETH when ETH was $4,000, but now you're giving me .08 ETH when ETH is half the price.
Like, that shit don't make up for it.
It's just fucking ridiculous from every single aspect.
Sometimes silence is the best.
I didn't mean to interrupt you.
Prophets knew what she was doing, bro.
She knows I feel some type of way about this shit, and I'm going to speak my fucking mind every time.
Somebody tagged it or brought it up again today, and I was like, nah, I want to talk about this.
And, yo, whoever's spending the 1097 to bought the spaces, just send me the ETH.
I'll do better use with the ETH, you fucking shithead.
Bro, spend this money on your wife.
This is what the fuck is wrong with this space, too.
You guys literally got your priorities all fucked up.
Spend this shit on your girlfriend or something.
I'm 93% sure I'm not going.
Six, I promise you, ain't missing shit.
She says that how she comes.
She says that how she comes.
I was already planning to come.
He was not planning on coming.
We can't change the subject.
Don't change the subject.
How about the ugly motherfucking thing?
We got to talk to Aitera, bro.
I just want to hear his things.
One, because we're talking about time wasting.
I had this happen yesterday, and today I thought it was hilarious.
I made a thread about it.
There's this guy that was impersonating me on Discord a few days ago, asking people, like
my friends for Ethan stuff.
Obviously, it wasn't me, right?
I'm like, yeah, easy scam.
He has a mutant PFP, and then he's like, yo, somebody's talking shit about you and other
Discords, and they're trying to get you banned because they're saying you're a scammer.
At that point, I'm like, no, I'm not a scammer.
They're like, that's ridiculous.
I'm like, Bored Ape and whatever, and I'm like, okay, all right, I got to figure out
And so he sends me a Discord link.
It looks like a real Discord.
There's 20,000 people in there, 3,000 online.
I try to verify, and the verification link of that Discord is a scam link that takes you
Vulcan is pre-mint's verification tool, but it's a fake Vulcan link.
You connect your wallet, and then if it has the NFTs that they're after, in my case, it
was my mutant, it'll prompt a transaction to steal that.
And I caught it, and I'm like, yeah, I know what you're doing here.
And I published a thread about it so people can learn about it, because it's been going
around in the past couple of days.
A lot of people have been commenting in that thread saying, yo, this same thing happened
to me a couple of days ago.
But I was just like, yo, just get a job.
You have your social engineering, this shit.
You can use that for good and make money and not be a piece of shit.
So I thought that was relevant.
And thank you for that information.
Atari, I've never seen you around.
You better not be out here scheming motherfuckers, okay?
You better not be the one.
Bitcoin almost just hit 30K, bro.
Travis, longs are printing.
Hey, hey, my beautiful people.
Dude, I just watched that candle, too.
David's going to take us out to eat.
And even if he says no, I got all his digits where to find him.
He is going to take us to eat.
Are you ready for New York?
Are you ready to see me again?
Definitely ready to see you.
Did you mint the Jenkins valet?
No, but I'm going to say it with my chest because you inspired me to say it with my chest.
But y'all need to stop talking about my mans.
I think they're so freaking cute.
Why y'all hating on my mans?
I see what type of man you like, Leslie.
You know, I always say to somebody for everybody.
I just came to shake it up.
You the one to give the ugly motherfuckers a shot.
It'd be like, you know what I mean?
No, she came to shake it up for sure.
Anyway, speaking of shaking it up, I'm shaking.
Listen, I'm over here shaking it up.
It's getting ready for New York.
We're shaking it up at these NFT NYC events.
I don't have any of the NFCs that I need to go to these events.
Profits, did you see that PayPal now partner up with MetaMask for transactions?
And I actually was trying to do it right now.
But my bank, unfortunately, does not allow it.
I think I owe them motherfuckers like two G's.
And they removed MoonPay.
I can't even put money or buy with MoonPay.
It's sending me to another stupid credit card.
Everybody in the crowd is laughing.
Nobody's bullish on that at all.
Honestly, MetaMask is fucking centralized as fuck.
Before we get into the next topic of the day, because, yeah, it's getting close to that
You guys are crazy as fuck.
What were you going to say?
I just wanted to talk that thread up top.
In a Discord that you trust, that you are in, there's the bots listed on the right side.
There's a thing where you can add a note.
So it go into a Discord that you are a member of, that you already used that bot, and put
in the note of that bot, real vote.
So that way, when you join an anonymous Discord, you can click on the right side on that bot,
and if that note carried over, it's the real friggin' thing.
If it didn't carry over, it's a drainer bot.
You know, I think, normally I don't do this, but I'm going to do this now.
It's easy, this Mr. Ifuno Woyono says, it's easy to sit around all day and let computers
But where's the fun in all that?
There's enough money between your fuck bags to enjoy the rest of your life.
But all you care about is this suck-dick Elon Musk shit.
I'm not sure if that guy's an up-and-coming artist or what, but we're going to go ahead
and get to the next topic.
First of all, ladies and gentlemen, if you haven't already, we really appreciate the
Like, comment, retweet the room.
We actually have a special guest on the stage.
It's going to be a fun little segment tonight.
They wanted that motherfucking Web3 Exposed stamp, and they got it.
They get some time to talk.
They get some time to fucking share what they got going on in Web3.
Personally, I like it because it's highlighting influencers and it's even giving influencers
an opportunity to be funded and kind of fuel their dreams and continue to do what they
You know, I'm not the biggest content creator, but definitely headed to be, and I just love
So when I heard about it, I said, yes, of course, you guys definitely can come through.
So disclaimer, yes, this is the last piece of the show, and it is sponsored by Everbloom.
Everbloom is here to talk about their platform, and I want to hear about it.
So Everbloom, welcome to the show.
Thank you for being here.
It's a pleasure to be here.
I'm enjoying the room, and it's wonderful to hear more about Soldier Boy's NFT drop, although
sorry to everybody who is holding.
This is not financial advice.
This motherfucker, Everbloom, they bought it.
You guys bought the Soldier Boy?
Yeah, so you already know.
It'll be, you know, the floor is yours.
Please tell me what Everbloom is.
I know what it is, but tell everybody what it is, what the goal is, and why you think it's
going to be successful in Web3.
Well, the main reason why many of us are here is because of Web3, right?
Web3 gives us our control over what we create.
The beautiful thing is there are so many people here on stage that have created their
own brands from their profile pictures, right?
The NFT is what makes that so special.
Well, there's a set of creators that are the OGs, the YouTubers who we grew up watching
that have now become superstars and have become super successful.
But the thing that was missing is in their success, we never got to have a piece of that.
We would go and subscribe.
We would go and share, but we'd never get a piece of that income they make when they
That seems to be the case.
We are the platform that allows you to invest in YouTubers.
Invest in YouTubers by a percentage share of their future revenues by buying an NFT.
And in return, you'll get revenues for, say, six months, one year, two years, three years.
Now, we've already done a drop before.
If anybody's ever watched Avery B, Avery B is a YouTuber who has about 700,000 subscribers
to YouTube channels, built everything on his own.
He pays for his own team.
But what we've done is provided money so that he can build his brand, increase the amount
of videos he's putting out, and therefore the income.
So if you're an investor in his YouTube channel, then there's a chance that you might get some
additional income over time.
So right now, we have three live drops on our platform.
We have one for Jay Palfrey, a travel YouTuber who's gone to 180 plus different, well, put
out 180 plus different videos, gone to all sorts of countries across the world, showing
what the media doesn't show you.
People have a chance to invest in his success.
And we also, as a company, Everbloom, we support these creators by helping them produce
We help them optimize their thumbnails.
We're recently onboarding Mr. Beast's retention strategy manager, Mario Juice, as an advisor
By the way, this is not a project.
We're funded by Dapper Labs, who if anybody's ever heard of, we're the OG investors in NBA
And we've got a few other big names on the team.
We're based in Amsterdam as well.
So if anybody's there, we'd love to see you as well.
Yeah, I remember Topshop.
I bought the top of Topshop.
I'm sure a lot of us bought the top of Topshop.
I pinned up somebody to the top.
You guys tweeted this last month.
Only 1% of the population is creating 91% of the content.
Yet in the creator economy, the market is open to all with no cost of entry, low competition,
and free access to skills.
This is your chance to take advantage of one of the biggest opportunities of your lifetime.
You want to kind of discuss that a little bit and why?
I know this is a kind of long-term play.
But what's going to change, right?
Why is Everbloom going to be successful compared to the next app that tries to come out and invest
Well, there's a few pieces to it.
We don't just let people invest in YouTubers on a platform.
Every YouTuber that's offered on a platform, we invest in more than anybody else.
So we've got skin in the game in every single drop more than anybody else.
This isn't us trying to shift off and try and make some cuts from whatever we sell.
The point is to make these YouTubers a success.
And the next MrBeast, if that were to come from Everbloom's platform, not only is it great
from a marketing stance, but every holder that supported that creator in the early stages
gets to share in its success.
And let's just run through some numbers here, right?
YouTube has 2.6 billion monthly active users.
That's one in three people in the world.
Name a platform that has that much engagement, probably besides Google, right?
If YouTube was a country, it would have 80% more population than China, which is the largest
country in the world right now, at present.
Another figure we could probably add is YouTube made $29 billion of revenue in 2022.
And around 55% of that goes to creators.
That's $17 billion US dollars.
And we've seen some creators from the space.
MrBeast, a big name right now, has become a billionaire.
Many value his businesses altogether and many billions.
Now, there are a lot of people that are following their footsteps, but not many YouTubers have
millions to spend on every YouTube video.
A lot of us, for example, when NFTs popped off back in 2021, a lot of creators were just drawing
There was no AI-generated collections or anything.
They had to work very, very hard.
And these were people in that middle class or even the low class.
I mean, the creative middle class on YouTube are one-person bands trying to create content
and build out essentially their business.
Your YouTube channel is your brand, your business, and how you make ends meet.
Now, the MrBeast of the world have created teams.
They have tens of editors, writers, all that kind of stuff, but ordinary people on YouTube
who have just started making money, the fast-growing YouTubers, don't have that advantage.
And we want to be able to provide that, but also get everybody here who's an avid collector,
who actually wants a utility NFT, not a Soulja Boy NFT, to have a piece of success from these
real-life business people, these YouTube creators.
All right, so give it to me straight.
Like, can I get rubbed or what's the...
So to protect that, once again, as not a project but an actual company, in the contract with
every creator, we have a revenue share agreement clause that basically means if any investor
isn't paid back within, say, a one-year contract period, a three-year contract period, the contract
will continue until every holder has been paid back.
So by providing this capital, you're not screwing over the YouTuber by locking them
They need this capital to grow anyways.
And some YouTubers, especially on our platform, maybe have not been able to continue their YouTube
channels without the funding.
We have a travel YouTuber that pays for their own trips and maybe doesn't make as much as
these big channels like Mark Wins, if anyone's heard of, or Drew Binsky, or Best Ever Food
Review, who make many millions a year.
But now, they could possibly be on that level.
So luckily, we've done our best to make sure that nobody gets rubbed.
But the risk is, there is only one risk.
If a YouTuber gets demonetized, there might be the case where they just don't produce any
content or they fall off.
But we handpick every creator because we invest in them.
We strategize our offers.
And then we offer them to the community once we've invested ourselves.
Yo, that Food Review show is so good, bro.
Yo, what you're doing is intense, dude.
That's actually, that's crazy.
Do you help these influencers monetize and all that stuff?
Like help them monetize in the best way for their content?
Right now, we've only ever worked with monetized, like currently monetized YouTubers.
But actually, Books and I were talking about this the other day, and Books made a really
Web3 is about entry for all.
And a lot of people aren't monetized right now.
What we've been doing in the recent past few days since I spoke with Books is we're reaching
out to Web3 creators who maybe aren't even monetized or are monetized and aren't making
And we want to try and offer them to their own communities, which, you know, is the whole
We shouldn't just be making money and not giving a piece back to our community.
So hopefully, we'll have some of that coming forward, too.
Yeah, that's why I was like, you know, hearing a new project, whatever, but then hearing the
whole like shebang about it, you know, investing in creators and not just any creators are very
picky on how they go about it.
I think that's pretty cool.
So just a question about like the revenue streams from the artists.
Like, so are they just are these contracts with them just on YouTube or are you are you
putting in other other platforms such as Twitch and Kick and these other things are like are
we just to expect revenue from the one platform?
So the majority of these similar platforms that provide funding to creators, they tend to lock
But that's not what we do right now.
It's only your AdSense related revenue.
So as a YouTuber, any revenue you create is what's factored into the offer we make to you,
you know, say 10% for $10,000 for a year or two years or three years or six months, whatever
And all those terms are made clear on our platform.
Everbloom, we have a platform.
You can check it out in the bio of our profile and it shows all the live drops we have right
We've got three live right now.
Two of them actually are almost sold out, which is pretty nice for the whitelist phase.
But what we want to do is slowly go into other platforms.
For example, Twitch is pretty hot right now, but there's a lot of people moving over to
So we're exploring Kick as well.
There's Substack or Paragraph, these other Web3 platforms that have come around that creators
So we're trying to find a way to start with YouTube right now, which we've done.
We've shown proof of concept and then hopefully expand to as many as we can.
And if you guys have any ideas or are seeing anything, DM us, hop on a call.
We love to chat with the community as well.
Hey, would you feel like there's any competitors or anyone out there that's doing anything similar
to what you're doing in this particular field, whether it's a Web2 company or anyone in Web3
So there's not any that are involving the community.
The whole point of us involving the community is that we want people to share in the success
I mean, there's a few companies, not to name them, but have provided financing for the
ownership of one video of a big creator.
So there was a company that bought one video from Mr. Beast in return for cash up front
to fund the next two, three videos.
It's kind of like a business approach.
There are also some that will give really tight terms.
But the whole point with us is we want to be transparent and held accountable.
And that's why we've involved the community.
So a lot of these businesses try not to involve the community because it's literally between
And if the creator misses something in the contract, well, no one will know.
But in our case, everyone can see the terms.
We're open to any discussion.
We have a Discord server, which we'll pin, by the way, because we're going to be giving
away $300 worth of NFTs because Web3 Exposed is the best show in the Web3 space that everybody
Books, profits, and Scott's not here.
But big love to Scott as well.
We'll be doing a giveaway shortly.
So if you guys don't mind, we might pin a tweet.
And if folks want to submit their wallets, we can go from there.
Web3 Exposed audience love money.
So if there's money involved, you know, pin it up there.
Yes, we do love money, money, money.
But I do have a question because I was looking at your site and it is very intriguing.
So say that I wanted to start a YouTube channel, but I don't have any content yet.
And I do see that you have a section where we're able to go pair up the YouTube account
and then you're able to calculate the funding or something like that based on algorithm and
personalized options from there.
Are you able to personalize or come up with something if somebody was to submit that form,
but with nothing on their channel, just the beginning?
And then the second question that I had, or I can ask you after you answer that.
I mean, I'll answer quickly the first question of, you know, do we take people really, really
in the early stage and maybe haven't made content?
Well, I guess one key driver for that is if you built an audience on another platform and
it's likely that you can transfer them over, then that's great too.
The problem is, though, if you're a really early stage creator, the deal structure would
be different between if you're a growing creator.
So, for example, if you're growing 50% the past six months to the previous six months
before that, then the deal that we offer you is much better.
And also, we don't take 50% of a YouTuber's income.
Other competitors in the space have done this.
For us, it's generally deals between 10% and 20%.
We're not trying to own you.
That's nothing at all that we would like to do.
The whole point of Everblue is being that creator accelerator.
We're a creator accelerator.
Think Y Combinator, what they do for startups.
They give them cash and they also give them support in any way they need.
We're not the shark tank where you get, you know, 50% taken of the company in return for
No, we give you a fair value.
Plus, we take a very small amount and we include the community.
All right, guys, real quick.
So, it's pinned up to the top.
Everbloom is doing a giveaway.
Anyway, all you got to do is follow the directions in the pinned post up top here at the space.
And they're going to give it away here in this space in the next, like, 20 minutes.
So, obviously, you got to be in here to win.
But, yeah, Leslie, I'm sorry.
But, the second question, you kind of answered it and it was in regards to the fees and then
say, you know, that you do have a YouTuber that does have a little bit more attraction
in YouTube, a bigger platform.
And the percentages, is that also based if they were to submit that form depending on
their algorithm, depending on what they're producing?
Does that kind of change based on the YouTuber and their platform size?
Yeah, because, I mean, we've had discussions with creators in the past that have had, you
know, one YouTube that maybe wasn't so big, but their TikTok was blown up and their TikTok
was extremely consistent.
So, you could see that they're a creator that can make a whole lot of content.
So, the deals sometimes differ, but we have a standard offer and then we discuss from then
depending on how much we want.
Because think of it this way.
We want to invest in the creator deals, but we don't invest in every single deal.
You know, so if there's a creator that comes on our platform, a YouTuber that we are offering
to the community, know that we have invested more than anybody else.
Generally, at least 50% of the whole deal is what we invest in ourselves.
So, the only way we make money is if the YouTuber blows up and becomes, you know, on par with
a large creator like MrBeast.
And can you please disregard my email because I submitted the form because I like to try
So, please, when you see that and you're like, what the F, they have no videos, no nothing,
Leslie, and also, if you happen to want to go down that field or anybody who's in the
audience who thinks that, you know, they've either started a YouTube channel or they work
with a company that wants to go in that space, whatever that may be, right, send us an
It doesn't matter how small you think you may be, the potential is always there.
So, if you want to go for it, message us.
Maybe we can see and work something out.
Yeah, I got one more question.
Just about, like, I was reading some of the job postings.
Are you guys launching in flow?
Yeah, so the way it works is we have one side you can hold the NFTs you buy on flow, which
But if people want to pay by ETH, any other crypto, they will hold their NFTs on a Polygon
network on, you know, a MetaMask or whatever that may be.
All right, I'm more bullish here now.
Books, I was telling you, flow's on the come up, bro.
You did good the whole show.
The whole show, you did good.
Big, big back-end bandit.
I actually joined this space because I knew Everbloom was going to be on stage.
I was going to say that I hosted them on my Twitter space on Saturday.
And it was an amazing conversation.
Like, I host a lot of guys.
Like, I've hosted, like, literally, like, on over 20 teams on my space.
But I just wanted to say, like, Everbloom is one of the guys that, like, I literally bought in after the space.
I was going to buy in to their drop before the space.
But, you know, I don't know.
Somewhere in between Ryan's convincing accent and the gigabrain play, like, all of it just worked together.
And, like, it was really, like, you know, it made so much sense.
I mean, we've all been here.
We've spent so much money, blown so much money on, like, you know, crazy crap NFTs and wasted so much money on stuff that doesn't go anywhere.
And you've got these guys who are building something.
And they're not just, like, saying, hey, you know, we're building an NFT.
Like, the NFT isn't the product, which is why I'm super bullish on them.
You know, they're investing in the creator economy.
They're investing in people who are actually valuable creators.
And they're using the NFTs as a model to fractionalize that, to help them build communities, to help bootstrap these creators.
And I strongly believe that, you know, the unicorns of tomorrow in blockchain technology are not going to be the guys who are, like, doing stuff like financial engineering or even, like, you know, PFPs.
They're still going to be there.
But I feel like the real winners are the guys who are going to be exploring fringe areas of blockchain technology, you know, thinking outside of the box, which is what Everbloom literally is doing.
So, for anyone who's here, like, I literally did not come up here to shill.
But I know I joined the space a little bit.
But I just wanted to say, you know, I bought into their drop.
And actually, you do get to see, you know, another thing that stood out to me was the fact that after you purchase one of their passes, you get to see an agreement.
It's a purchase agreement.
So, it's literally, like, a legal contract.
This is legally binding, right, which you never see in NFT projects.
Like, even the ones who say, hey, we give you IP and this and that.
Like, it is very rare to see projects that actually give you the documentation on purchase.
So, you actually get to see that.
So, that made me feel so much more confident in what they're building because they're doing everything, you know, they're doing everything strategically.
They're doing things that could create value.
And when you do the math, honestly, like, I looked at the revenue generated by some of these creators over the past six months.
And for the amount that you're going to be buying these passes, for the percentage of, you know, revenue that you're going to be getting, it's just a no-brainer.
So, like, you know, I spammed that buy button personally.
So, for anyone who's here, I feel like, you know, you definitely should check them out.
I'm not going to say buy, not financial advice, but definitely you should check these guys out.
I feel like they're going to be, like, doing pretty, pretty major things.
So, yeah, big shout-out to Ryan and everyone on the Everbloom team.
And you two, Profits, for, like, letting me up on your stage.
This is the first time I'm in your space.
And, you know, big, big vibes.
So, I appreciate you letting me speak.
This was a, it's Neo Hunters, but the PFP got changed.
So, this doesn't exist on-chain.
This is from Alex Becker's project, right?
It's still fire, you know.
I mean, I'm stuck with it now.
Like, if I change my piece, half the people on my timeline are not going to wreck.
They're used to seeing this bald samurai dude every time I tweet.
So, I'm stuck with him forever.
No, I ain't fucking with you.
I'm never going to come at you.
No, I appreciate the take.
And, you know, sharing your thoughts.
Um, Mr. Ryan, if there's anything else you wanted to add, the floor is yours, man.
Well, thanks, Big Back in Bandit.
For those who don't, uh, weren't in the room we were in, Big Back in Bandit hosts a weekly
We haven't paid Big Back in Bandit.
Just a friend in the community.
I was, uh, I think it was Sunday I was sitting in, or Saturday I was sitting in my garden
and just listening into your space.
And I thought it was really nice.
I appreciate you bringing us up as well, my friend.
So, I know what you're doing for the community.
And it's wonderful to see.
Man, I know, Ryan, I know we spoke about this last week.
Now, one thing that I'm bullish on is the exposure.
We're going to see a lot of Web2 brands come into this space, you being one of them, and
having, like, the reach you guys have through YouTubers and everything you do, and that brings
a lot of exposure to this space.
And we haven't, we haven't been receiving much exposure.
Like, Web3 hasn't been getting the exposure it was getting a year ago throughout this bear,
So, things like that I'm bullish on.
I can't wait to see what you guys do in the future.
Especially coming from you, one of the most respected voices in the space.
Books is one of the realest out here.
We're not just here for a promo.
And given how long they are to be having attention for that long and enjoying every
minute of it, I'm proud to be listening in.
And hey, just to add some pieces here, if anybody is trying to put a support ticket in the Discord,
it seems like the community is so large that our ticket system has stopped working.
So, what we'll do, if anyone's still listening now, in the general chat, just put in your
wallet address and we'll put you in for a chance to win the giveaway.
Big Backend Bandit, you mentioned that some of the creators that we have on our platform
I mean, one we have that I think is 96% sold out in the pre-sale.
He's done 186 videos, all on his own, only made $17,600 of revenue, right?
So, travel the world, pay out of his own pocket.
That's not enough to make a living, right?
But he's working extremely hard, being consistent.
And that's something we shouldn't forget.
And the comparable YouTubers on that kind of level, in the same niche, could be getting
10 times, 20 times, 30 times the income.
I mean, this guy walks around with the camera, with a GoPro, all by himself.
He edits all his own videos by himself.
And it's great to see that as a community, we've supported him.
There's another creator on our platform that's already sold out.
So, anyone here who's interested, unfortunately, that's run out to take part in.
If anybody's ever seen a Brickverse video, they've had, I think, 70 million views in
Brickverse has only released three videos.
They're Lego stop-motion animation videos.
And the beautiful thing about these is, you know, it's made by two people in a team.
They take months to make these videos.
They don't have, you know, a large team.
The people who started it are the same ones working on it today.
One of their videos made 20K last year.
It wasn't even released last year.
It was released a year before.
So, recurring revenue still exists.
There's a way to look at the YouTube videos that are released.
There's evergreen content.
Content that you'll look back four years later.
And still, there will be views on those pieces of content.
Or there's the ones that are only related to today, yesterday, the day before.
Maybe don't get as many views.
And I want to also run down, if anybody doesn't know how the platform works, because I think
If you haven't used it, you know, it's not me.
I run strategy at Everbloom, right?
But we have a team, you know, a team of 12 people right now, full-time, who work both
remote and from our office that go hard every single day.
You know, they work full-time, but not a single person works five days a week.
But they're required to work five days, not six or seven.
You know, look at it now.
It's midnight for me in the UK.
I love the mission so much that I wanted to come on here and share what we're doing
with Everbloom, with the community.
But books, I want to ask you, if there were, there's two parts to this question.
First is, if there are any web3 creators that you think here, or web3 YouTubers that you've
been watching, or anything that that may be, ones that you think we could possibly even
And then the second piece is, where do you think the next medium of creator will be beyond
YouTube, that you think someone like us, who have resources, we've got money we want
to put into play, especially in the community.
Where do you think we should be doing that?
I think books is losing service.
If he rugged, profits, if you're interested in taking...
The main piece I wanted to know is, what do you think is going to be the next medium for
web3 creators, that a company like us should support beyond YouTube?
Because we're looking to make our next big step, but we want to hear straight from one
of the biggest names in the community.
Where do you think is the next place to go?
I don't think it's so much about a next place to go.
You know, I have a whole thing that I've been thinking about.
Like, there's internet of things, IoT, that was super popular for the last few years.
I really feel like an internet of people in the future, especially with web3, and your
digital identity is going to be...
Let me repeat it if you guys didn't hear me.
Digital identity is going to be a big, big, big thing that we see this space kind of transition
Like, your digital identity is going to be a lot more important than your PFP is today.
So, I think digital identity is, like, the next, like, massive movement that we see in
the web3 space, in my opinion.
I think if you're talking about, like, investing or where to put money or backing people, I
think it's, you know, specifically creators within web3, not just YouTubers that are known
for whatever they're known for, but actually people in web3 that are creating content based
That's what I think is the next best thing to do, Everbloom.
Just want to say appreciate y'all for bringing me up.
I want to make it quick because I'm in the middle of a gym session.
But for Everbloom, I kind of wanted to just say you should definitely at least keep your
eyes out for Rumble just because I like to call them, like, a decentralized version of
YouTube likes to, you know, censor a lot of things, and Rumble's that next platform that's
going to allow for things to be uncensored and people to kind of just, you know, speak
So, just thought I'd give you that quick tip.
That's a good shout, actually.
We've seen a lot of big names who were big on YouTube that, unfortunately, had to move
platforms, go on to Rumble.
Steve Will Do It was a big name in the space.
And the same thing with streaming platforms like Twitch.
You've seen people like Aiden Ross, who've created their own communities, right, go from
Bro, Aiden got some crazy followers.
I want to get big, but I don't want crazy followers like that.
He got some wild fucking followers, FYI.
Hey, but I wonder how much that bag was from Kik.
I heard it was $150 million.
Bro, $100 million, bro, but $100 million to see your sister naked on the stream?
Hey, I'm hearing Andrew Tate is going to tick, which...
Whether you like him or not, it's going to be crazy.
The Sims of the world cannot wait.
I'm actually happy for this.
Some of you motherfuckers need some hair on your chest.
Hopefully, Andrew Tate teaches you that.
Yeah, I just wanted to chip in on the subject of, like, where I feel like...
Where you feel like the upside would be investing in Web3 creators.
I feel like Web3 brands definitely should invest in people who are creating valuable content.
Because they don't just create for, I'd say, the community.
Because they're, like, the eyes and gears for people who are coming into this space.
When I got into Web3, if I had a network of people, you know, that I have today.
You know, a growing network of people who create valuable content that helped me stay on top of, like...
Bro, today, I literally haven't been online today.
But I could literally, you know, scroll through my timelines, go through my list and just, like, get up to speed with everything that's, like, relevant that is happening in this space.
I can catch Alpha if I want to, you know.
And it helps me, you know, stay in step with the game.
And this is the value that creators actually bring to the space.
And you see that in the level of engagement that they get, right?
Like, people who actually follow them understand that these guys bring a lot of value.
And that's one thing that I see some brands, like...
Like, I know a lot of people talk about Azuki.
But they've actually been going really, really hard right now.
They just hired another guy, Alex.
This guy posts, like, crazy memes, bro.
Like, I've had notifications turned on for him for, like...
And I don't even have notifications turned on for a lot of people.
But I have notifications turned on for this guy.
I know it's off-brand for me because I don't, like, really deal with shit posts.
But his posts are so, like, they're crazy.
They're, like, so quality.
And I don't even know how he pulls up this stuff.
But it's crazy because he's consistent.
He knows what he's up to.
Like, he knows what he's doing.
And he delivers what people want.
And I feel like what they're doing is they're incentivizing these creators to keep on pushing out value.
And they're letting them know, like, they're creating a new meta, I could say, for projects in this space to say,
hey, you know, instead of, like, say, hiring people who are just going to, like, you know,
people with tainted brands who are just going to shill and post stuff out there and, you know,
let people, like, understand that you're investing in value.
I'll be taking over Azuki from here on out.
Yo, shithead, I'm going to fucking bill you for interrupting my fucking space.
And you're not even here.
Well, relay the fucking message then.
Anyway, I'm going to hop off soon, but I just wanted to toss a few numbers out there.
Now, YouTubers, 97.25% of YouTubers don't make enough from their, you know, their adsense revenue to live above the U.S. poverty line, right?
I found these stats when I was writing a thread on, you know, Web3 dApps that are empowering creators.
This is a thread I did, like, a couple of weeks ago.
And it was crazy because YouTube is a billion-dollar app.
And you find out that over, almost, like, over 95% of people on that app who are creating with channels don't make enough just from their ad revenues to, like, say, live above the poverty line.
And they actually have to, like, monetize their brands in different ways, you know, and take on other, like, types of brand engagements.
So it's crazy to see that lots of these platforms, you know, even in Web2, right, this problem exists where you have to, like, be really, really big before you can actually, like, get comfortable.
And there's lots of people, like, you know, like Ryan said, Jay Palfrey, who's been doing his thing for the longest time.
And he's just bootstrapping and he's creating quality content.
And we see lots of that in Web3 as well, like, people who are just going hard, right, like, and they're doing their thing and they're pushing out quality content, not like anyone is sponsoring them.
So I think it's definitely a good move to actually see, you know, find ways to support these people because, number one, you can see that they know what they're doing.
They're good at what they do.
So if you just, like, create a support system for them and you invest in them, then it's a win-win situation where, you know, you can actually, like, help them get to that point where, you know, you're supporting some new quality.
And obviously the results are there.
So I actually bought two Jay Palfrey passes because when I did the math, you know, I saw how much Jay's made in the last six months.
And I saw, you know, how much I would have to pay to get a certain percentage of his revenue from AdSense.
And I'm like, yo, this is a no-brainer.
So, I mean, you guys just go there, do your own research, right?
Do your own due diligence and check out the numbers yourselves.
If it checks out, go for it.
But I'm super, super bullish on whatever Bloom is doing.
And I'm super bullish on this face as well because, like, it's a good mix of buyers and value because, like, I've had, like, I've had, I've been shocked.
I've laughed, I've learned in the, like, 10, 15 minutes that I've been in this space.
So definitely a space that I would be looking forward to, like, tuning into.
This is my first time on this space and it's been amazing.
So thank you guys for hosting this.
Thank you for, you know, having me.
And, you know, just thank you for the vibes.
Oh, you're going to get every emotion in this space.
I'm so happy that you got the full experience.
Lego, were you going to say something?
I originally requested to speak.
I wanted to talk about something else.
But it's totally off topic, so I'm not going to be that asshole.
But Everbloom, I got a good idea for you.
I think somebody you should support are the NFT music artists.
We were talking about how crypto is down and people aren't talking about it as much.
And I think that they're going to be the ones that are going to have the most influence in onboarding people into Web3.
I was on Dre, the Noid space the other night with Showtime, the crypto punk guy.
And, you know, I was listening to some of those raps and some of those songs.
And, you know, you got iHold over on Cardano.
He's got a song, Twitter space and some other stuff.
And, you know, they're talking about ETH.
They're talking about ADA.
They're talking about specific NFT projects.
And, you know, people are going to hear these songs and they're going to be like, well, what's this?
What are they talking about?
And they're going to get into it.
They're going to get excited.
They're going to get educated about Web3.
And if you can promote those guys and you can bring their music, give them a forum.
And you could talk to them specifically because they could tell you, like, different platforms and whatnot.
But that would have, I think, I think they're going to be ones that are really going to be onboarding a lot of people in the future.
That's a really interesting suggestion.
There's a few in the space already right now.
You've got Royal, which was made by Blau, that's hitting off quite well.
So it might not be a new avenue to go in.
But I guess for us, we want to provide as much range to people who use the platform as possible.
And also, just a heads up, for anybody that wanted to take part in our giveaway, we're giving away $300 worth of NFT.
Everbloom, you're on mute.
Folks, because you fucking muted them with your big ass finger.
Dr. Elizabeth lady, and I clicked mute by accident.
So we had an issue with the support ticket in the Discord.
So if anyone's trying to enter the giveaway, just go into general chat in our Discord.
The prize is up for grabs.
One $200 gold NFT and a YouTuber called Kadabba, who makes these crime kind of documentary videos, has almost 300,000 subscribers.
There are some nice videos.
Maybe you've watched those videos in the past.
And there's two silver NFTs, which are worth, I believe, $50 a piece.
So we've got a $200 NFT up for grabs, which is revenue sharing what that creator makes for the next few years.
And then you have a $50 NFT, which is a slightly smaller revenue share.
If you go into the Discord in the pinned tweet and then go and put in your wallet address in general chat, you'll qualify.
And at the end, we'll choose three people and we'll announce them before we wrap up.
If you want to have a chance to win some free money, I mean, you just sat in spaces and you win free money.
Ila, I see you pulled back up.
Did you want to add to this or you just want to, you know?
You know, I was just up here farming.
But you're going to call me out.
I got to take a take, right?
I'm going to get one of these takes or whatever you guys call it in the Twitter sphere.
Yeah, I agree with Buddy was saying, like, there is going to be a lot of musicians that once they finally discover this space are going to be responsible for a ton of people joining the space, but mostly artists.
I don't know if it's going to get my, you know, the grandma in Nebraska.
She hears a song about Cardano and she's going to buy Ada.
I don't know about that, but I do know that the more artists that enter this space and get to actually take advantage of this incredible opportunity to actually flip the music industry on its head, like, that's the use case that people, we always talk about use cases, use cases, use cases.
That's when we truly onboard people because there's an actual use case that makes sense, you know what I mean, across the board.
And I think that music is definitely one of those things because people as many.
I've got to stop you in your tracks.
Did you just say the best use case for NFTs is music and art?
Have you not checked the market?
The number one utility is the floor fucking price.
And if it's not going up, I don't want any of it.
I don't care what type of music is on that.
I don't give a fuck what type of art is on that.
Unless the price goes up, there's no other utility.
Yeah, I mean, that's the thinking right now, you know, and that's like, that's the good and the bad of the space because it's very short-sighted.
And that's why we have things like pump and dumps.
And that's why there are terms like exit liquidity because that's the game that a lot of people are playing.
But once we move past this phase of greed and speculation, we have to land on actual use cases.
And music is going to be one of those things.
You know what I'm saying?
Because that is a broken system that this system fixes.
And no system should be in place or is actually going to get the recognition it should in mass adoption unless it replaces an existing broken system.
You know what I'm saying?
So I jumped into space because I come from a broken system.
I was one of the lucky ones who was able to achieve financial freedom through a broken system.
But when I saw this space, I'm like, holy shit, this is the answer.
This is the answer for all my brothers and sisters in shitty deals or my brothers and sisters who are so dope that they can use this as a platform and not have to sign a shitty deal.
So that's how I look at it.
You know what I'm saying?
The speculation and all that, that's why they say speculative bubbles.
And I hope this space isn't a bubble because it's much bigger than, like, if it's just a speculative bubble, then that means we fucked up.
Did you see what Kennedy Jr. said earlier?
Listen, I like what Illa said.
You know, Alex may or may not be a little bit obnoxious, even though he has a point.
But I'm going to say this.
I'm mad as fuck because Snoop Dogg took all my ApeCoin.
Snoop Dogg took all my ApeCoin.
I bought all his music NFTs on ApeCoin.
I don't want to talk about it.
I don't want to talk about that.
Anyway, go ahead, Bullish Trader.
Did y'all see what he was talking about?
Speculates and stuff like that.
Did you see what Kennedy Jr. said earlier today about crypto?
It was actually somebody important because apparently he's supposed to be running for
presidency, which I think would be like the first time that Kennedy's ran for president
I'm going to find this and I'm going to put it up in the post.
I thought it was pretty bullish.
What the fuck is going on?
Why is it that the COs always come up here?
Hella motherfucking entitled, bro.
Every fucking time, dude.
Speaking of entitlements, you see that lizard on stage?
Hey, we got the number one influencer on all blockchains in the motherfucking house.
Real quick, because we had such a great fucking space and I want to just continue it on with
Tell me, Alex, what's your whole take on music entities?
My take on music entities.