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Web3 Exposed 🌶️🎙️ [STREAM] $300+ Giveaway
Recorded: May 20, 2025 Duration: 2:02:21Space Recording
Short Summary
In a dynamic discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored upcoming events, partnerships, and trends shaping the industry. Highlights included a major Vegas event aimed at fostering collaboration, exciting token giveaways, and a bullish sentiment surrounding Bitcoin's potential growth. The conversation emphasized the importance of authenticity and community engagement in driving sustainable growth within the crypto space.
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Yo soy Amar, te abrazaste cuando está caída
Soy la llamada mansión
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If you don't fear, my love me, I don't care
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Come on, I didn't tell me, only you don't feel my pain
I can't believe in me, we're gonna take these men's away Oh y y
y Yo, yo, yeah.
Video stream is live.
Will is such a fucking boomer.
I'm so sick of it, bro.
Oh, my God.
Come on, bro.
Come on, Will. Come on, Will.
Oh, Will, Will, fucking Will.
Always something. Oh, Will, Will, fucking Will!
Always something!
Oh, yeah, yeah!
Life is all about you. And not at all about you. Oh Excuse me. um so so
I can be here, I'll make this a little bit of fun.
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I can be here, I'll make this a little bit of fun.
Whoa! I can be here, I'll make this location. I am mine.
So I travel back in time.
I have everything I want.
My imagination is mine.
But mine is not enough.
Because I am not my mind.
I can see it all and never get to see I'm coming blind.
I can be it all, but all identity is intertwined.
The moon is only bright when it reflects my blue shadow.
Woo!
Look at Will!
Until Twitter's not broken anymore,
I have to manually add the RPC and the stream key every day.
It's very annoying.
I'm pissed.
Huh?
Mine is pissed.
Did you do anything special?
Lucky you.
Every time I try to do it, it doesn't work.
So, it's all good. It's all good. It's life. Well, we'll have to figure that out there. no lucky you every time I try to do it it doesn't work so
it's all good
it's all good
it's life
well we'll have to figure that out
after
it's a heavy inconvenience
no it's cool
it's like a
I'm new to it now
but yeah
exactly
I'm about to clip go live
here we go
here we go
where are my glasses? I'm a good girl. I'm a good girl. I'm a good girl.
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I'm a good girl. I'm a good girl. All right, guys, if you want to tune into the video stream,
go ahead and point your attention to the top of the spaces,
and you will be able to watch the amazing video stream
that gives me technical difficulties.
But it's all right because it's there.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Two more seconds.
No, 20 more seconds and we'll start.
It's not the human race.
It's just the human race.
There's nothing left to chase.
We do not run this place.
But both medicines and poisons and fire taste.
So I started taking thousands of somebody. And if you have it, then come and you're back. Come and you're me, take me shake it to be Max. If you do please, then have your place to be Max.
Please just do it and let me shake it to be Max.
Take it to be Max.
Take it to be Max.
Take it to be Max.
Please just do it and let me shake it to be Max. Can you see the stream, Will?
Yes.
Yes, I can see the stream.
All right.
I don't see it.
It's all right. I'm see it. All right. I don't see it. It's all right.
I'm going to just add again.
You're live right now.
For sure?
Is it working?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm in your stream right now.
Okay.
Maybe it's just because I'm on the other phone.
Let me check this device.
Something's jacked on your end, but yeah, you're left.
Okay, cool.
Hey, it's good to know.
What if I wasn't wearing any trousers or something?
That'd be crazy.
Luckily, I'm wearing trousers.
All right, we're live.
Welcome to the stream.
Welcome to the show.
Web3 Exposed is officially live.
Happy Tuesday.
I hope your day is going well.
7 o'clock on the dot. I'm in my drop top cruising the streets.
Yeah, so a lot of discussion
on the timeline.
I think
yo, you know, you know, baby. The best show on the internet. I don't make the rules. Ask your mother why that is. I don't know why. She agrees. I agree. That's all that matters. All right, let's get it. in Vegas next week. We have an event thrown by yours truly
with some other friends.
29th, 8 o'clock p.m.
Pacific time in Vegas.
Right on the Strip.
Make sure you RSVP to the event.
I'll post a link below so you can do so.
Melina's going to be there.
A ton of friends are going to be there.
Will may even be there.
He's antisocial.
No, he's not antisocial. He's just a homebody. But he's going to be there.
We have so many fun things in store. You already know we're going to be giving away collectibles on behalf of BZ.
Speaking of, today we have another giveaway.
All you have to do is like, comment, repost the stream and drop your BZ wallet address.
Very simple.
If you made your BZ account,
it takes two seconds.
And yeah, let's jump into it.
Looks like the combos
that we've been having the last few days,
really the last fucking six months,
but last few days,
people are starting to care.
And in my opinion,
I think you motherfuckers are bored
because you're sidelined for Bitcoin. You have no Bitcoin. You're watching Bitcoin go to 150, 200 K.
You have no Bitcoin. So we're resorting to talk about, uh, content
and influencers and pumps. Um, but yeah, so we're going to jump into the charts before will does that we're gonna tease you
motherfuckers first all right we're gonna tease you motherfuckers first uh we do have some special
guests pulling up today talking about other things going on in the web3 crypto eco uh i think it's
important to diversify a bit um you know will I jumped into some spaces in the last week, different spaces, different people.
Just to fucking, can I give away BTC?
Do you think I'm dumb?
Do you think I'm dumb?
No, I'm just kidding.
No, I don't want to give away Bitcoin.
I don't want to do that.
I appreciate you, though.
Buy Bitcoin.
Buy some of your own Bitcoin.
Maybe we do a big bitcoin giveaway one of these
days but anyway the point is um i have i have been popping into some spaces and and you know
i i can't lie it's feeling like 2021 again in a good and a bad way the good way because i see
new energy i see new builds i see new people i see new content creators i see new energy. I see new builds. I see new people. I see new content creators. I see new hosts.
And I'm bullish on that forever. I think that's awesome, especially if they're still pure.
Profits, what's a pure host? I'll tell you what a pure host is. A pure host is somebody who doesn't
allow grifting pieces of shit on their stage, number one. Number two, they are people that are genuinely here because they enjoy it.
They're having fun.
And unfortunately, there is a lot of people that have came in and got washed out.
I'm going to be honest.
I almost got washed out two years ago.
You're dealing with the wrong people, energy with the wrong people.
You're talking to people that you think have your best interests at heart on a day-to-day,
but in reality, they don't. they don't care to see you win they they just are just happy they get to use you and your clout some of the biggest scammers and grifters in this space
making millions because they got close to great people like will like me uh and other people and
and you know this is life whatever this is not me bitching or complaining.
This is just a nature of-
People don't even know about me, Propos.
They don't know that I was involved with some weird kind of stuff on the back end.
And this has your story to tell.
I'm never going to tell your story for you either.
And I know you don't care.
I'm just, you know, teasing. point of saying all that is this is the only fucking place where that energy and that attitude
is unfortunately celebrated and to be frank uh you could fly under the fucking radar and keep
winning and keep making money um if you're gonna last long are you gonna be able to go out to IRL
events there were some people at IRL events even in Dubai that told other people to make sure they didn't tell them that I that tell me that they were
there I don't know I'm not nobody I don't give a fuck I see you outside just
don't try anything stupid but I generally don't give a fuck I'm probably gonna
not even look at you but the funny is that my point of all this is this is
the only world and industry where
this is allowed and this is good and bad why is it bad because it's gonna attract more bad actors
why is it good because it's gonna attract more people and if i'm being real the best thing a
grifter does a best thing a scammer does if anything aside from teach you who not to be around
is onboard new people because they're great
fucking salesmen they're really good at selling bullshit and what happens those people come in
and if if for the most part some of them trickle into other ecos and better eco come on we all got
on board into some dumb shit at one point and then we realized oh let me go over here let me
if you didn't just come in from years ago right if you came years ago different if you came in the last
two three four five years you probably came through a fucking rug project a side chain that's not even
alive anymore and you're like oh shit woke up smell the coffee you know you got bitcoin now
you're on some you're doing some real shit so i am excited for this reset i'm going to keep talking about this ultimate reset
bitcoin is going to be three four five hundred thousand dollars before we know it not necessarily
this year obviously but before we know it and i'm telling you now if you're involved if you're
participating right now this is the absolute moment in your life to make sure you don't drop the ball like you did when bitcoin
was three four five hundred dollars a thousand dollars five thousand dollars twenty thousand
dollars this is your new twenty thousand dollar opportunity this is your new five thousand dollar
opportunity i genuinely believe that and not only in a price point but in a in a in a in a
in a opportunity of positioning yourself properly not just in bitcoin but in
really really really good projects fucking sui is cooking sui is giving me somebody just said this
and i totally agree sui is giving me early flow vibes you guys are playing with top shy you guys
are playing with all those dabs didn't even fucking know you're operating on a blockchain
called flow now flow ultimate fucking war chest literally don't see them running out of money anytime soon if anything they're probably
going to outlive a ton of these new shitty chains you guys keep giving energy to that's a whole other
fucking conversation um but welcome to the show thank you guys for being here i'm shanice this
is will let's get this show in the world will Will, how's your day? How are you feeling? What's those charts looking like?
I'm good, man.
Diet's good. Everything's good.
Getting a little bit of feedback.
I got a trainer today, bro.
I got a trainer. She worked my legs.
Oh, yeah?
Fucking insane, bro. Insane.
I'm cutting right now.
I'm down from 270 to the 250. Damn.
That's nice.
That's a cut. That's a
fucking cut. Good shit. Congrats.
W's in the chat for my
guy here. That's lit. That's amazing.
That's a lot of
weight, man. Trying to jog
it off.
Getting a little bit of feedback from your phone.
I'll turn it off right now. I got you.
Alright, cool. Yeah yeah so a lot of you probably don't know i'm not gonna tell my backstory because i don't really care like look i'm appreciative of every opportunity i've gotten
in the smith and when i say opportunity i don't mean monetarily right just opportunity to hang
out with cool people do cool things meet people meet people, stuff like that. But like when you talk ghostwriters,
I was a ghostwriter for some of these bigger accounts on the trading side.
Profits knows.
Profits knows.
But a lot of people don't know that.
I was just a small account, you know, feeding information to bigger accounts
and helping their trading groups and everything else so a lot
of people don't aren't aware of that and i just kind of came out and just started you know doing
this thing and then profits well actually really kind of profits pushed me towards it plus you know
the other stuff too with bb but um yeah i mean like i i like being here in the space i like
talking to people about trading discussing charts and stuff like that too. So price wise, I think it's pretty interesting.
I think I was looking at Ansem's chart today too,
because he always puts out some interesting stuff.
He has this coming out of 99.
I think that's close to my target.
Like I'm looking, like I said before, 95, 96 maybe.
I think we'll dip into that range.
But I do think we're going to get a pullback probably like next month,
something like that, maybe a month after.
And then he thinks we'll be at 133 by July.
That would be interesting.
That would be interesting if we get to 133 by July.
It means we're likely not going to have much more upside.
And I would honestly think we're not going to top the top of this channel
either on this next drive.
So, you know, mid-100s is kind of my target pricing right now.
That's where I'd be looking to kind of fully clip out of crypto as a whole.
Not saying that, like, I'm not staying in crypto or anything like that,
but, I mean, I clip out the cash every cycle just to make sure I can catch the next move. not not saying that like i'm not staying in crypto or anything like that but i mean i clip
out the cash every cycle just to make sure i can catch the next move so i think like if we get up
to like 150 148 maybe like 160 somewhere in those range it depends on how fast it moves
starts to slow down a bit i'll i'll stay in the or i'll get out sooner but you just got to kind
of watch the momentum day by day.
But these candles are looking pretty good.
They're looking pretty good.
I like that.
We have a double,
a double green candle after a double red.
We've recovered the price.
We've got 11 days,
one hour to close up here.
We close up here,
11 days in one hour,
you know,
downsides not going to be too crazy.
They say like 96,
95, somewhere's in that range
relatively you'll probably see price pull back for the next month and then we'll see some kind
of shoot up um and i think like on this next move the drive is not going to be massive but i think
it's going to really incentivize people to be interested in bitcoin because like if people see
150 000 bitcoin and they realize oh shit i could have bought that at 15K, you are going to, I think, see, you know, the normies start to be like, damn, it's going to keep going, right?
Because that's the whole mindset of asset accumulation, just like a lot of people with
Tesla. A lot of people got involved with Tesla, you know, in 2021 at the peak, thinking that it
was going to keep going and they've been stuck in a four-year lull to the side you know down into the right and then up into up into the right but basically the all-time
highs for basically a solid four years no profit really so a lot of people get trapped like that
and i think that this will drive in adoption it will drive in more people to be interested in
crypto but at the same time i think uh i think it's
gonna be a little bit tricky as far as like where this goes but pullback wise you know i i think
what we'll likely do is maybe test somewhere around what we can see right here maybe somewhere
around like 70k 80k for the bear market low that's where i think your bear market's gonna land us
somewhere's relatively in that range uh really close to all-time high maybe we dip into it a
little bit right just like last cycle um 2021 spare um where we basically ran out in 2022
bottomed out we did run into previous highs so there's always a possibility that we could do
that too i'm gonna kind of watch the pattern the 2022 bottom was pretty easy to tell but i don't know that every cycle is going
to be like that that's that's kind of the issue so i'll have to watch this and really evaluate it
to try and catch a low um somewhere's in bitcoin but i think like anything pushing into like 70 80
k is is a really good deal and i think that's where your bear market low is gonna land by the time this is done which really says a lot right it says a lot as far as how far
we've come and how far you know this thing probably will go and uh you know likely we'll see 280 k to
350 k next cycle is my thoughts but that's just kind of where i'm at mentally right now with things
overall so you know as far as price action goes looking for us to kind of stay relatively high up
here all coins aren't really going to do a lot right now they're going to just kind of hang out
as we know solana been side has been sideways for a year and three months now which is absolutely
fucking wild but i do, I do think profits,
all right, and I'm very bullish
on Sui. You guys know that I love
Sui. Big Sui, baby! Big
Sui, baby!
Yeah, I got in for real
cheap when everybody's like, well, you're buying that
trash, not vaporware.
I was like, okay. We'll see how that works out.
You know,
48 cents to $5.
But yeah, anyways, though, the point is, with all this being said,
I do think that the pump fund thing is starting to heat up profits.
That thing that got posted earlier today, did you see that?
Yep, yep.
I was going to go into that.
That giveaway?
Before we go into that, what makes this different than any other shitty campaign
giving away money?
I think it'll be like the middle
or somewhere towards the end
when they give that away.
The end of this whole drive
to create and push influencers
to come there.
The thing that people always miss in this
market, this is the one thing that everybody misses, is you see something new. You know you're
early. It's just like every other. I'll just call it for what it is. Just think of it as a Ponzi.
You see something new, you're early, and you think that it's going to happen forever
right momentum only lasts for so long and then after that momentum is gone you you have to kind
of shift your gears and shift that liquidity out and i think like this whole meta that pump fund
is creating it is going to drive liquidity it's going to drive less rugging it's
going to do a lot of things in that space but at the same time it will get oversaturated at a
certain point when it gets oversaturated then you have to shift you have to you have to move away
from that meta that meta is going to go away but i think so far i've been on point with this pump
fund thing i've been on freaking point with it and And here's the thing. I was the biggest shit talker of pump fund.
It really was.
But like,
I know when I see a product and I know when I see something early and I
really try to capitalize on stuff when I see it early.
And then I try to get out while everybody else is still screaming.
It's going higher.
Fair enough.
Sorry.
I'm making a,
I was making a post here.
Um, wait, you said you're calling for 99 000 bitcoin like 90s mid 90s by when this summer it'll be it'll be like next month's pullback
it's not going to be this month this month's going to probably stay relatively elevated like this
but you always got to think about most candles you're going to see a wick on the bottom
right the problem with this current candle that we have right now is there's a big imbalance here
because there's really no wick here right at the low so you're either going to see this thing
come down to like the 90s and then pull back up or you're going to see it pull down lower
somewhere around like 88 which i was talking about the other day and then pull back up or you're gonna see it pull down lower somewhere around
like 88 which i was talking about the other day and then pull back up one one of those two
it's just hard to tell which one of those levels it's gonna slam to
so the selling may go away haters it's selling june motherfucker yeah yeah right now it is it is
selling but what what what i told so somebody asked me on a post today i said so you think
people should wait until end of year i was like you could theoretically if you're looking for
the big pump in the market i was like for for altcoins like q4 going into q4 not end of q4 um and i said like if you didn't want to die
i was like i would tell most people who don't know how to trade just dca until then and then
you'll be fine and then when you see that big pump coming just take some money off the table
at least your initial so i'm shorting june 1st then
uh here's the tricky part 2022 the collapses didn't start happening until you took you one
damn that's next year
yeah it kind of smacks everybody in the face and it confuses them i know people hate hearing
cycle theory but it like until it stops happening why are we even fighting it right you know it's
inevitability that's all it is like you just you just have to understand like until cycles stop
happening we can't be calling for cycles to stop happening like you have to actually physically see that stop happening first before you can like
this is it this is the time otherwise you're literally just guessing
so i'm looking at these news here i don't want to talk about pump phone right away i know you're
fucking itching to talk about it but i want to wait a second i want to wait a second i'm just i'm bullish on the theory not not really yeah i don't think
it's going to be a long-term play i think it's going to be something that plays out and gets
saturated and then goes away got you um so did you see the Genius Act situation go like yesterday?
The vote was going to vote now officially.
Did you see that?
Did you pay attention to that?
I did not.
You don't care about our stable coins?
I absolutely don't give two shits about stable coins.
Hell yeah.
It's a stable coin.
What's it going to do? Stay stable?
I mean, crypto
friendly for our ecosystem.
We want that.
I don't want CBDCs.
Why?
Because that's government monitoring your money at that point.
They've been monitoring Will
They know where you are right now
Not to the degree that they can do with CBDCs
It's a totally different ballgame
I am bullish
On the senate being bullish on crypto
Be bullish on crypto
Just don't make a stable coin for the for the for the government
that's all i'm saying so bitcoin's flirting with the all-time high number here like a thousand
off um is there any 109 is the high so what so is it 2000 off yeah 2000 right now what is the
indicator of luna decided to gracefully answer the stream
you see what happens when you know barb you get to gracefully answer the stream um
is there any type of like correlation with the fact that it hasn't touched it is it is it is
it psychology is it the market makers manipulating anything you're you're always going to see
resistance when meeting a previous ultimate you're always going to see resistance when meeting a previous all-time high.
You're always going to see resistance.
If it slams through it, great.
We broke through it.
That's time to look at it.
We're going to likely send higher.
If it doesn't slam through it and continues to resist,
eventually that resistance will put enough pressure on it to pull it back.
The issue I'm having right now is the RSI.
I don't think the RSI is very friendly right now
because we're getting really close to a high here on the weekly.
We're not too far off it.
We're right now at like 67.
And our high, if we keep pushing up here, is around 73.
So you don't have much room to really push price higher
and not meet that ceiling
that we've hit now twice
and rejected on
so far in this market on the weekly.
Will, let me ask you a random question.
Do you know what this is?
I saw somebody
else with it, but I don't know what that is.
Have you got one for your daughter yet?
She hasn't asked you for one yet?
No. He's like, I ain't getting her shit.'ll get her one i'm gonna bring her one to vegas these are little boo-boos so this one is a yoga pose but uh the actual the actual keychain
dolls uh that are like a hot commodity sold out everywhere you can actually win one in the claw. So, little alpha there.
Go ahead and get you a BZ account.
I'm giving away three
claw plays today.
Three claw plays today.
So, like, comment, repost, drop your
BZ address below to qualify.
Let's continue on.
We do have some special guests
before we continue on.
Go ahead, Will, go ahead.
Are those new Beanie Babies?
Hey!
Hey!
Hey!
Yo, it's funny.
When China comes in and says, swap it like it's hot.
Let's make something pop.
I think they grow a billion dollars already from this shit in the last year, six months,
whatever it's been selling.
My mom asked me about this shit six, seven months ago.
And I'm like, huh?
And I was like, I just overlooked it.
And then a month, two months later,
my reseller friends, I'm like, fuck, fuck.
I knew it.
And then it was going to pop off.
So yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, new Beanie Babies.
I recommend everybody watch this on Netflix and I'm not saying go binge shit. I watch Netflix like, you know,
maybe once a week, twice a week, but I was watching this segment on why we shop and consumerism and
all this AI shit, all these AI videos kind of showing like how much landfill we're gonna get
at once we continue to consume all the shit they're selling us it's just pretty wild and
then i'm over here collecting shit like i'm a fucking hoarder i don't know it's it's wild
it's wild we do have uh go ahead oh no i was just gonna say the other part to the chart here too
real quick and then oh yeah no please get to i guess so you can see here volume right here too volume like this is think
of this is like interactions right like trading volume essentially like your trading volume peak
was really at the low of bitcoin and we've been slowly losing trading volume as we've been creeping
higher too that's that's just more indication that we are
you know relatively not right at the moment but we will be hitting the top more than likely um
as we kind of bottom out here and then start spiking once we start dropping again as you see
right here volume really picks up once you start to drop so once we start heading towards the bear
market you'll start to see really heavy spiking in the chart.
But yeah, volume's been kind of meh for a while now.
It's been drawing more and more down.
But I think we'll get a lot of excitement
somewhere near the low of volume.
And then lights out.
Lights out!
Real quick, FYI, if this is not obvious for you motherfuckers especially when you shill
me this shit in my dms tell me you don't have a marketing budget don't come to my fucking spaces
and shill it under my spaces don't do that that's the quickest way for me to hide that shit
if it's solid i like it whatever maybe but don't think you're fucking slick. I'm sick of y'all.
I'm sick of y'all.
Only NGB can do shit like that.
And maybe Zell right here.
This guy from Matrica Labs.
Speaking of which, my boy Spen in the house.
The boy came through to Miami.
Did a fucking massive event for one of the founders on Ape Chain, Mr. Rita.
It was an absolute delight to have a chance to hang out with him and the team and all the apes over here.
Some flew in. It was immaculate, bro.
Appreciate you. So excited to got to chop it up with you.
I hope you made it back slayfully.
Thank you for pulling up today.
Super excited to hear any updates on Ape Chain, if any.
This is not sponsored. This is
me wanting to know what the fuck is going on with other ecosystems because I think, I'm not gonna
lie, I don't think it's talked about enough as to what else other things go on, right? So my boy
Spen, what's going on? Talk to me. How's it going? GMGM, thanks for having me up, Profits. What's up,
Will? Hope y'all doing well um and yeah
appreciate the love around the event man you know powered by a chain spotlight that's what we're
looking to do here you know roll out these rewards for people that you know show up every day
participate and you know provide to our community and our ecosystem so that's just the tip of the
iceberg um miami was a blast you know uh we, we're working on the recap to build some FOMO.
I know you also came out to the charter at the, you know, to kick off the week and
followed it up with the showing, stopping by the community event. And then also held your
after party at the collector's club. So really appreciate you, you know, creating that space
and having our community out there goes a long way. As for things, Ape Chain, man, we are cooking,
we are cooking. Like I said,
continue rolling out rewards for our builders. We also announced that for anybody that has 20K
in Ape Holdings, they can submit to be basically invited to a Monaco race experience this following
weekend. We don't want to spill too much alpha there, but that announcement is coming, you
know, very, very soon on those invitees.
And I mean, if you thought Miami was a movie, I mean, shit, Monaco on the yachts, it's going
to be, that's going to be a trilogy or whatever the hell.
So that's going to be fun.
Stay tuned for that.
And yeah, you know, we have some fun partners also rolling out on Ape Chain.
So before I, you know, start rolling into those, did you guys have any questions?
I know I'm just chatting now.
I actually, yeah, I think I have a good question for everybody.
What was the point of Ape Coin, Ape Chain launching Spotlight?
For those that may not know, and then also what was the, I guess, marketing strategy behind it as
well, if any. Yeah, I think, you know, the main goal of it is to be a chain main reward program
for our holders. So, you know, one, you know, to incentivize more activity on certain platforms
that we want to, you know, each, each round of spotlight is going to be, you know, it's going to
have a different feel. It's going to be directed people to do different things. And, you know, each round of Spotlight is going to be, you know, it's going to have a different feel.
It's going to be directing people to do different things.
And, you know, this previous one was riding off the hype of our NFT ecosystem and all of our amazing founders and communities.
And this next one is going to be, you know, revamped.
It's going to be different.
It's going to be a shorter season.
It might be a little toned down, but the actions that people will be doing are going to be, you know, a bit different than this previous one. So it's going to be, you know, finding different ways and different platforms or
products to kind of drive users to that we'd like to on Ape Chain. So overall, I mean, you can just
think of a DLTR as Ape Chain's reward program and one of the best reward programs in Web3.
I think also, you know, to touch on that, like we're building in public,
right? Like the first season was what it was. And this next season, I think, you know, we'll have it
in a better place and have, you know, something exciting and, you know, engaging for our community.
Good luck. Great answer.
The marketing was to build FOMO, you know, hey, if you aren't participating in Ape Chain Spotlight,
you know, if you didn't see what happened last season, I think we came over here to one of your spaces and gave out a mutant, gave out a, you know, a crazy NFT package.
So, you know, I think that's the marketing there is, you know, try to build Fama and show people this is the place they want to be.
You need to get fucking Will a mutant, bro.
I'm sick of his damn youth.
Throws his youth around.
Man, insane, bro. And fucking insane. His damn youth. Throws his youth around. Man.
Insane, bro.
And fucking sane.
What's it called?
So, Spen, you know, I know you know me, bro.
Don't start, Will.
Don't disrespect the apes like that.
They're here hanging out with us right now.
Don't do that.
We'll do that shit later.
No, but spend, um,
would love to maybe get some, I know there's been a huge change, positive change with the way ApeCoin and ApeChain are going about building. I think, um, it's funny cause when people try to
talk in other spaces about things they don't know about our eco um i'm like bro are you
not paying attention but i'm not gonna lie get it not everybody is not everybody is so do you mind
kind of going into the the shift in uh how like there's been more now leadership like you got this
ape chain hub new twitter page fucking killing it i think it was a great idea. So can you kind of go into like the pivot in a sense of like really strengthening the specific side of ApeCoin and ApeChain
aside from the Apes and Yuga?
Yeah, that's great. No, that's definitely a great point. You know, I think one of the
big goals with this restructuring that we're seeing with, you know, Cam kind of taking
over as, you know, head of Ape and Juan and, you know, what BAM doing, what they do is, you know, turning
what was the community ran thing into, you know, a sustainable company, sustainable,
you know, business, something that will, you know, be able to, you know, have further impacts and
support builders for many years to come. And it feels like, you know, with the moves we're making
internally, we're headed in that right direction. And I think, you know, Ape Chain Hub is one of
those. Ape Chain Hub is supposed to be the place for all builders on Ape Chain, you know, somewhere
that you should tune in. If you're, you know, looking to build, if you're just a collector,
if you're participating in Ape Chain, we wanted a single place for people to, you know, resonate
with and keep notifications on and use it as a way to, one, spread, you know,
important information, two, highlight, you know, some of the amazing partners, products, and
builders on our ecosystem, and then three, you know, this is a narrative with Ape Chain, but reward
our active participants, reward the people that are paying attention, reward the people that,
you know, support the eco, and, you know, through the Ape Chain Hub, we've been able to do that with
whether it's, you know, hopping on spaces with the official account or whether it's, you know, support the eco and, you know, through the Ape Chain Hub, we've been able to do that with whether it's, you know, hopping on spaces with the official account or whether it's,
you know, showing some love, some quote tweets here and there, or whether it's, you know,
straight up giveaways like think agents and putting people into those conversations to
build with those agents or, you know, getting other deeds and looking to put them in the,
you know, right position to build for other side and, you know, X, Y, Z. So I think, you know,
all in all, we're headed in the right direction. You is a mission, but we have the right people on board, I think, to get the job
done. And yeah, I think outside of that, the future is bright bright and blue so if you aren't
tapped into ape chain reach out to us let us know if you have any questions you know if you're
looking to build we're only a ping away hop in our telegram hop in our discord hop in our dms
and yeah excited i was talking to me my batch. Good job picking up the mic. That's what I was going to say. I was like, Will, heard me over here on the video stream, but not in the space.
Actually, let me ask this question because somebody just asked.
And then I'm going to go to Will if he has anything for you.
So somebody said, Ape Chain Spotlight Season 1 seemed to reward the builders in Ape Chain.
Curious who will be rewarded Season 2.
Feeling less motivated to engage as much as I did season
one Diablo Diablito I'll say this if you're feeling less motivated maybe drink some water
that's my advice um lol just kidding no but spend anything to that uh to what that gentleman just
said yeah no I mean that's there you know uh spotlight like I mentioned earlier wasn't a
flawless season right so I think one thing that we'll look to do a lot better is clear our communications up.
So people will, while, you know, right now we aren't letting much out, as we get closer to the spotlight, you know, next season going live,
we'll be clear and set expectations of what people can expect before we roll out, you know, the experience and see like, hey,
is this something I really want to participate in?
How hard do I want to go?
Or what are my chances before, you know, fully aping in?
And we'll look to do a way better job of like setting the tone
and laying the land for people before they start aping in with their funds
or, you know, their time and their efforts.
So apologies that you feel that way, man.
You know, we feel you, we hear you.
And, you know, I'm really hopeful for this next round, you know, being a breath of fresh air in that regard.
Will, you got anything for my guy here?
Fuck me.
I have to keep on muting.
I need to hop on the broadcast.
How do I get?
What's the link?
Low key, low key. Amp, you're not allowed up there, motherfucker. I don't know who nudging you. I need to hop on the broadcast. How do I get? What's the link? Low key, low key.
Amp, you're not allowed up here, motherfucker.
I don't know who you think you are.
You're not allowed up here.
Clean up that following.
I'm just fucking around.
You can come.
Spend, if you want to come, I'll send you the link request.
I'll send you the link.
Go ahead.
Will, you got anything for him?
What, as far as A-Chain and participation?
Or no, just I don't know if you had a question for him
You don't gotta be a snazzy
You don't gotta be snazzy
You should tell the people why you don't have a
That's what you should tell the people
Why, because I didn't buy one?
Yeah
But I got this you
Ah but I got this you ah yo you're invaded right now bro
you're invaded right now
it's over for you right now Will
I need to do calls
who wants to be my
I'm kidding
oh shit
oh man I still that's the guy that's the guy my u here i gotta whatever maybe we start you
with a fucking g's then we'll ease your ass in there look what we're founderless right now
right yeah you're no you're an orphan brother you're an orphan it's okay i'm i'm part of the
cto now all right i'm part of the cto we're all part of the same crew now. All right? I'm part of the CTO.
We're all part of the same crew.
We're CTOing together.
We're going to run our bags up.
Yeah.
This is going to happen. Fucking amazing, Will.
Fucking amazing.
If you're just tuning in, we go live every single day right here on X Spaces and the stream, 630 Eastern.
Thank you guys for tuning in.
If you haven't already, make sure you shoot a follow to everybody on the stage except
Amp.
And we're going to continue on.
I'm just fucking around.
What's up, Amp?
You never pulled up before.
How you doing?
Appreciate you.
What's cooking?
Yo, wait, wait, wait.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
I bless y'all to get the first samples of my stuff and you you calling me out like yo
What is this man? Yeah, you were supposed to be there. What kind of Mickey?
Listen listen listen hold on
Friend listen listen bro, you need to understand I really have something with
Understand I really have something with
We're flying bro. Like it really like people don't understand how bad you ever seen the a team
You ever seen the a team bro?
That's why you're gonna have to do it to in order for me to be somewhere bro
Because it's not happening like for me to pay for a flight the flight called spirit and shit bro
It's not happening it's not happening
but listen i just came show love what was popping did you guys enjoy it did you guys try it like
you know put me on uh that's that that was just a sneak peek that i did for for for rita um
what you know what we putting together and hopefully by NFT NYC is official.
It's already done.
Like everything is good to go.
Not talk to me.
No, it definitely tastes good.
It was funny for like 10 minutes.
This other guy that was there.
I'm so mad.
I forgot his name.
He's your boy.
Um, he's from New York too.
I was like calling him amp for like 10 minutes.
Cause I'm thinking it's him.
Cause y'all sounded like he's like, no, no, no, I's not here i was like ah you're not in that's why you didn't
give me a bad look i was about to say you're being nice to me amp would have been giving me
shit right now no but wow how you gonna how you gonna say that it had a good lemony taste um i
was drinking my drink and i was like hold on let me clear my palate and then clear my palate you
feel me and then i had a sip uh but no bro it, it's good shit. Anything with Ape IP, bro,
I'm bullish on. And even more, my G, like turn that shit into a fucking sustainable business
for real, bro. Like that's what I want to see. I don't want to see, and this is not you,
but a lot of people, I don't want to fucking see no more apes on no bogus ass weed packs.
I don't want to see that shit anymore. I on no bogus ass weed packs i don't want to see
that shit anymore i want to see some real fucking utility i'm cooking something right now with my
ape as well um i that's just that's my take that's my fucking the bodega the fucking nba
we love that shit but that shit's not gonna fucking save you bro you need a fucking sustainable
business you need a good product motherfuckers need to like that shit that gets cracked
and that's the only way it's gonna fucking work okay you can't save you we try to save you but Sustainable business you need a good product motherfuckers in the light that shit that gets cracked
And that's the only way it's gonna fucking work. Okay, you can't save you
We were trying to save you but they can't save you Okay, they can't fucking save you just throwing that fucking out there for whoever needed to hear no but but check it
Check it because everybody did the beer thing, right?
But we went for the for the NBA for the for the liquor, right? Like bro
We could this is dropship like I could ship this shit to your crib like I just want to make sure that it's good stuff
You know the margarita is popping like everybody's loving that one in the martini
So those those are the first two that we're gonna launch
for especially for nft NYC, but I'm
I'm excited right. I'm excited because we're the first probably
liquor in a can like that
You saw you did that that uh, Benny well did do the demo for you guys or what?
Like you know the whole process the whole process I'm talking about
Okay, okay, okay, okay friend you don't even Okay. Okay. Shran, you don't even drink, bro.
How are you even commenting?
You don't even drink, Mickey Mouse.
I drink.
And I did try that.
What do you do?
What do you do?
MGB.
A coin.
What do you do, baby?
Ape came to the top.
We ate.
Everybody doing it.
Oh, yeah.
Shout out to Profit.
Shout out to the queen, man.
Blessings. Much love who's big. We done to the queen, man. Blessings.
Much love, who's big.
We done took over Profitspace, made it 8 coin, made it 8 chain, DTs.
Literally fucking leave.
Man, we took over Miami, too.
Speaking of, hold on.
Hold on, hold on.
You guys know what we do every day.
We give money away every day.
Like, comment, repost the space.
And drop it like it's hot baby shake that ass let's go
oh my god yo much love much love to the ape ecosystem much love to the apes um man man we
can say a lot we can say a lot i'll say this obviously i'm
gonna sound biased but it is what it is there's so many things and i'm not just saying this it
just i i see it there's just so many things that i think gets glorified in our space it gets it
gets emphasized it gets you know oh shit look at that but then the originator gets overlooked
the apes have been literally yuga the team has been literally shipping out on things that are
greater part of our ecosystem bitches and complains for 24 7 perfect example i said this to spend
ape fest this year one day all the haters, it's only one day, they're going broke.
No, you fuck. How about they want to fund side events
for their community instead and then let everybody else pop. Whereas
you motherfuckers that throw fucking conferences and shit trying to do three, four days
so niggas don't do a side event. So just stuff like that that I think
is so overlooked and yeah
people be like oh she's she's fucking she's just a fucking oh she's a maxi shut up no i'm not i'm
not i'm not i literally i just i just call it how i see it and then yuka hears me when i'm also mad
and they do dumb shit too and they also appreciate when i'm like, yo, check this out or yo, check the, yeah, come on.
So the point is I just, I'm bullish as fuck. I appreciate spend. I appreciate people on the team that are trying to keep the culture alive. And this is a fucking 10 year, 20 year plan. You know,
your favorite IP, your favorite Walmart toy, whatever, whatever, like whatever's out there. Like most of this shit
is just not going to last. It's just, it is what it is. It's just not going to last. Um, and there's
definitely more than Pudgy Penguins IP in fucking Walmart. I'm just saying like that. I'm not
shooting at my Pudgies. I fucking love my Pudgies. Um, but yeah, I, I, you know, just, just wanted to
throw that out there. I appreciate you coming through, Span. You guys can chill as long as you want. We're going to continue on. Will is so fucking fixated on this pump fund
announcement. I think he's about to get funded. Will, you're about to get funded by pump fund.
We launched in a corner. What are we doing? What are we doing? Talk to me. Did he log up?
Oh, no. He's here. here well you're on mute on spaces
you can stay off mute though if you want
I can
because it does some weird feedback
okay okay go ahead
alright alright I fixed it
we're good I was talking to you guys but like
mentally you know telepathically
through the
screen unless you are on the live stream then you heard me but like mentally, you know, telepathically through the screen,
unless you guys are on the live stream and you heard me.
But yes, I mean, look, I already told you, look,
the pump fun thing is simply an opportunity of a Ponzi that will play out until saturation.
And then once the saturation happens, it's no longer going to have value.
Just like the trenches that everybody swears has so much value, right?
There's very little value in the trenches right now.
Very few things move.
And that's what saturation does.
When you oversaturate a space, I mean, look at L1s, L2s.
A lot of them are struggling because of oversaturation.
I mean, I could point out multiple instances of different reasons why there's a lot of issues right now in the space.
Too many roads and bridges and buildings and not enough people to fill them all.
You got a lot of vacancy, a lot of vacancy in the space.
A lot of vacancy in the space.
Now, granted, if that vacancy gets filled in some of these areas that have a lot of vacancy, that means that you're in really early.
But if the vacancy never gets filled and these buildings never see a tenant, then a lot of these things are going to go to business in this space.
And so for me, I just look at the pump fund thing
as an opportunity until saturation.
When saturation sits in,
there's no longer an opportunity anymore for people.
I don't know if that's the ideal answer
people were looking for, but that's my thoughts on it.
You're muted again.
Yeah, yeah, thank you zell go ahead
yeah uh i mean i kind of have maybe like a similar opinion but a little bit different
i think um like what they're doing is they're laying like a foundation down for like the next
wave of how crypto will be adopted um like i i feel like everyone in crypto is kind of like early
to trends and if you saw like the how the whole streaming era kind of developed, like most of my younger
friends, like they don't watch YouTube, they don't watch Netflix, they don't watch TV shows,
they watch streams, right?
You have people watching your stream right now.
So I think like this is Pump.Fun taking a shot at like, allowing people to express their
creative freedom and like kind of tokenize that
aspect but i think ultimately like you know i the thing i have the biggest issue with on the whole
pumped up on live streams is you have to launch a token like you go live all the time i do my own
live streams i'm not dropping a token like so this product is kind of shunning a whole sector of the creators out because it just doesn't make sense for us to release tokens.
But I think the switch that will be flipped is going to be allowing creators to identify and live stream on behalf of memes they identify with.
I think crypto has been around long enough for most people, whether they're big or small creators to like know what a meme coin is.
Like, even my mom knows what a meme coin is. Right.
And most people have now been exposed to a streamer on some level, whether they've seen a clip on Instagram, like they've seen a TikTok.
Someone showed them someone walking around Miami with like their, you know, camera out.
So I think there is going to be this crypto crossover of streaming
and i think it will happen on a platform like pump.fun or bonk fun but i think it's ultimately
going to come when they you know remove the need to actually have a coin behind you like i think
that whole like tokenizing creators thing is low-key a scam but like the underlying like
effect of it is going to be pretty big and it's going to be like you know kind of
intersecting the crypto and the live streaming worlds it's gonna branch off into something else
they like this this is an experiment for them to see how how well they can drive volume through it
from in my opinion and then once they kind of feel that out then they'll kind of you know switch or
pivot depending on how well it does and you know saturation sets in, that's when the pivot will take place.
And I think that then they'll open up to all creators,
but who will take the lion's share of the platform?
It'll be the people that did launch the coins,
the people that did create those.
They'll pretty much be the dominators on that platform.
So it almost disincentivizes anybody
from even coming over there,
even when they do pivot, to be honest with you.
Yeah, but I feel like that kind of like doesn't really fulfill the whole live streaming aspect
like how are you going to get new streamers involved if there's like a large portion of
people that know dropping token equals bad like i mean we have a couple successful you know cases
now like gainzy has been doing well but it's you know he's not necessarily the most recognizable
brand outside of crypto or isn't necessarily known for his live streams so it's like how do we get
like non-native crypto people streaming like on these platforms without having them drop a token
well yeah that's that's the issue i think i think it solves one issue through revenue share, right?
How they're doing the 50% to creators and 50% to themselves,
which is allowing them to share the line,
share the profit on volume to the creator
to keep the creator from actually wanting to rug the coin.
So that's one thing that they've solved with this, in my opinion.
But you've created a whole slew of other issues now too
because now you're going to try and force people into doing something that they likely don't want
to do and a lot of people don't want to launch a coin i know that a lot of people would be like
yeah i would yeah of course the the 100 you know person account who's got rugged multiple times
would because you feel like you'll be vindicated if you can rug other people but at the end of the
day in most cases you know the bigger
accounts aren't going to do that they're not going to go over there and launch a coin a lot of them
are just going to stay put and like oh i guess i can't participate because you've basically gate
kept me through this token that you're forcing us to launch i mean you can be early to it like i said
you can invest in some of these people that you know are not going to be serial ruggers,
I think, and make a bag off of it.
But you've also got to be kind of cautious
at the same time and understand
this meta will only last until saturation.
Yeah, I agree.
I just think like, you know,
I'm just not understanding
why they don't let creators
champion a coin like i could imagine an entire army of legitimate streamers and web2 creators
you know wanting to make money off having pangu or bonk be the coin behind their stream right and
if you're all for sharing like revenue and having splits like that i think it would make a lot more sense like
championing a real coin imagine one person launches right like let's say gainsy for instance who did
launch um let's say he launches and then he brings on 10 20 shillers that he knows are like day and
night killer shillers and they get like two percent of his revenue for you know being streamers that
stream with his stream and then you've created a like a streaming group at that point that streams
just that one coin and creates that you know that those eyes around that coin um through different
things that they might do i think like there there is a branch to where this can work to where like
streamer revenue can be made and then in
addition to that you know that can branch out to other people who are helping you essentially make
more money um it's almost like paying the people below you and and so on and so forth and that gives
them eyeballs too because then they they can get more money from other other people they do really
well right if they're successful at it.
And I think if they really kind of look at this from like a well-rounded position,
they could really make something of it, right?
But at the same time, it's kind of a difficult spot for people
who might want to participate as being an individual person on the platform
because you're required to launch that coin. Real quick a lot of real quick since the inception of jesus sandals i never allow any
account to sit up here especially if they didn't sponsor that motherfucking space i don't give a
fuck who you are i'm sorry come on a personal and you can give all
the takes you want. I'm sorry. I'm not
thread guy and all your favorite KOLs.
I love you. Go ahead, Will.
Continue.
No, I'm
just saying, like, I have some ideas how
they can make it better, but, like, I don't think
they're going to go that route. I think this is an experiment
for them that they're just trying out.
And, you know, if it plays out, it plays out. If it plays out if it doesn't it doesn't likely i think again it won't
end up really again just blast gold perfect example pac-man perfect example of just you know
you can create a hype train but then saturation sets in and there's nothing left to really hype
anymore what do you think about the fact that we are no longer in the social media era we are in the interest media era. How do you feel about that will
I think I think
I don't know. I don't know if I like the interest. I think we're in a poverty era. I thought about this the other day
We're in the interest media
Oh my god all right all right hold on second question for the
crowd everybody why is it that more founders are pivoting to gamble five why is that because
they're poor too well at least they they can't afford the oil chains on the Ferrari, but that's poor for them. So they're looking to get more money.
Why do we think that we can find ultimate product market fit in this space without having some sort of gambling attached?
Can anybody name me any successful projects that are not fully funded that have taken off?
I genuinely want to know.
I really do. Zell, what were you going to say yeah i was actually going to agree with you on this one there there's really not many uh you
know most projects like after they've exhausted their initial mint uh funds like they'll go on
to do either secondary collections uh derivatives uh chase grants
on other chains drop a token or ultimately go the gamble route and i was actually gonna you know
kind of bring that up like it's very difficult uh without outside funding to actually make something
work and i think that's ultimately like where they kind of end up is like fuck like we have
to drop something people can like gamble on
or else we might fail.
Rather than, you know, going through the hard journey
of like trying something for a long time
and having it not stick.
And then ultimately either sticking it through
or having that fail.
Like not a lot of founders like in Web3
really want to go the distance.
They want to like go to the distance
through like the initial marathon
of like launching your project, building up the community and doing that stuff but they don't
want to do like the secondary effect which is like okay everyone in my community is mad because it
didn't go right and i need to like kind of pull this together and i've lost out on the mint funds
like you know all that money's exhausted like not many people will continue going past that point
and i think that's why we see so many like people ultimately like drop like a coin or a gambling product or something that's kind of like crypto fun more so than like a useful product in the space.
You want to know why I think they go that route?
I think they go that route because they raise so much money at one time.
They've never had that much money for a lot of these founders.
And they don't know how to manage that money properly.
And so they run out of funds quicker than they thought.
And they have to pivot and find a new reason to create interest in a new product.
Because their old product isn't selling.
Because they never had a plan beyond the launch of that
product of what they were going to do with it and that was a little in depth but that's just my
thought no that's the realest shit ever we said bro 2021 i remember watching people that
they literally admitted on the timeline you can just tell when people are super euphoric and
they're sad they're like happy because they just made all this money.
And I promise you, when that money is in your wallet that you were goaling for,
you had a goal for, there is a different energy that you have as a human
when that shit actually hits your wallet and you see it available
and you're like, you like what road map you're like what
road map why the fuck are we going out that literally like delete your notepad everything
you wrote down on it like well where's that notepad i had listen i hate to keep listen
i think he's done left web three so it doesn't even matter. He ain't catching strays.
How the fuck do you raise $20, $30 million from three different projects and then you're like, ah, fuck it, I'm giving up?
How do you do that?
How do we do that?
But then Yuga gets fudged to death still to this day.
I don't know.
I'm crazy.
I'm crazy.
You know what the crazy part
is if you got 20 30 million dollars you just put that in the bonds you can create enough revenue
to where you wouldn't really have to spend that and you could use it to keep your company afloat
and going like i i just i don't understand a lot of people in the space like and i i know bonds is
like the most you know in some people's eyes the most dumbest way to put money but it's like when you when you create a
certain amount of you know wealth then you have to do something smart with it and the smart thing
is to try and create something that gives you dividends and those dividends are basically how
you would make your money i mean you can even put it in apple right and get dividends or nike
and get dividends i think like any of those how do you tell your money. I mean, you could even put it in Apple, right, and get dividends, or Nike and get dividends. I think, like, any
of those places would be smarter. How do you tell your community you're about
to take the money off change and put it in dividends?
tell them, hey, this is what I'm doing
with the money, because otherwise I'm going to spend
it on Lamborghinis, Coke, and a lot of
chicks at parties
because I'm going to slowly drain
it off, or I'm going to do it this way, and you'll be
able to see that it's in a bond market. How many G-wagons
do you think Frank DeGon's old?
We don't
have to talk about those. He had two.
And a nice crib.
And a nice crib.
And a nice crib. No, listen.
I know a lot of
devs.
Here in Miami, a lot
of Solana devs here these live these motherfuckers like
living here in miami and they like coffee uh they like coffee with milk uh mr mr rugger dev
do not shill me anything but if you would like to add to the conversation you may go ahead
thank you thank you gm i don't do sh, so you don't have to worry about that.
I only answer questions.
So my take on your question about why do people resort to building gambling products, right?
Because personal opinion, because 90% of the money they earn before they tend towards that is from people gambling anyway.
before they tend towards that is from people gambling anyway it's just under the veil of
buying nfts minting them and they're gambling on a on a quick flip to make a lot of money
so why not just make it obvious like people obviously want to gamble that's where most
of the money is spent in web3 um and so people build gambling products because you know then
it's really obvious like hey you can here's here's your chance here's
your percentages here's what you could potentially make um without having to figure it out you know
here's a bet this is the percentage if you get the answer right uh that's what you're going to
make and if not you then you lose your money and that's what every that's what 90 90 if not more
people are used to in web 3 anyway how many how many How many of the population is in Web3?
Why is that relevant?
I'm just
wondering if you know the statistics
of how much of the population is in Web3.
Who knows that?
Who knows?
I bring it up
because...
They're all fake.
Like they're all massively inflated.
So yeah,
a hundred percent.
The number of wallets on chains,
it's probably like 5% of that.
Yeah. I would say the people that are here gambling,
a lot of them are probably gamblers in real life and,
or became gamblers through this space.
And so that's the portion of the population of the world that is gamblers that doesn't speak for i don't think it's gamblers i think it's
normal people they just tend towards gambling they just you think you think everybody in the
world has the mindset to gamble they're not saying to themselves hey i'm gonna buy this thing because
i'm a gambler because i've got an addiction with paying money for the chance of making more.
It's just I think for most people, it's human nature that they're attracted by the chance of making money from small.
Why are they not buying lottery tickets?
Hold on.
Will, Will, Will, hold on.
Will, Will, Will, hold on.
I think you both are saying the same thing.
The thing is, Will, you're very technical, which I get.
An actual gambler, whether good or bad, bad normally the new people,
like he just said, they're attracted to the opportunity,
not realizing that to gamble then turn into gamblers, a.k.a. addicts, right?
When you smoke crack for the first time, you're like,
nah, it's just crack, bro.
Fuck it, it's just crack. I'm not going to get addicted. That gonna get addicted that's what i was gonna say preface and then but hold on
oh my god we have this richard character up here appreciate you following directions coming on
your personal you get so many brownie points with me uh richard please take it away we'd love to hear
what you have to say go ahead yo. Yo, thanks for having me up.
Yeah, I just wanted to piggyback on what Will was saying about the whole live streaming thing.
I invented the live streaming watch to earn token on Solana.
I was the first one to do it ever.
What year was this, brother?
What year was this, brother?
What year was this?
This was March 2024.
This is March 2024.
Got you.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, and I pretty much inspired Alon and the Pump.fomp protocol to be made to start streaming
on Pump.
So it's like I've had a weird arc in this space when it comes to like a lot of opinions
So like a lot of opinions and a lot of things.
and a lot of things.
And I learned a lot along the way too.
And I learned a lot along the way too.
But when it comes to live streaming and having a tokenized live stream,
like you're not wrong, but you're not right.
It's kind of like a lot of gray area stuff of what you're talking about,
where like a live streamer doesn't necessarily need to have a token to be successful.
But it is definitely a massive tool to have in your belt to be able to grow your
live stream and, and for discoverability,
because like when you have a watch to earn a model to where you actually,
um, reward your viewers for, for engagement and watching,
it actually incentivizes them, uh,
to make you more popular because they own you as a streamer. Right.
Whereas like say, you know,
it's like, it's equivalent of like buying stock in Kim Kardashian before the sex tape, right?
But like, all her followers, and the reason why she posts, and the reason why she makes so much
money, the reason why these people have stream deals and such, is because of the followers. It's
because of the people watching, right?
But do they get a cut of Aiden Roth's paycheck? No. All they do is they're shoving money at these fuckers and they're not getting anything in return. So imagine if you have a model where
every subscription, all the ad revenue and every stream deal actually gets shared amongst not only
the person that's doing the creating, who would ideally own the massive part of the supply because they benefit the most from owning the most, but it's also distributed through all the people that own you as a streamer, as a tokenized streamer.
it actually stops the Ponzi as a token
because all that ad revenue goes back into the token, right?
And it benefits the people that make you popular
and the reason why you make money to begin with.
So it's kind of like,
it creates a mass acceleration
once you hit critical mass.
Yeah, I think it incentivizes,
you know, the creator not to rug.
I do think that that's the case
i i don't know about advertisement going back into the token though um but why not
it's a perfect model that's that's not but that's not part of the model no no it's part of mine
and buying the token no but i'm saying though as as a as a respectable morally ethical dev
right you you your token has to stop the Ponzi.
You're just a Ponzi forever, right?
So you pretty much create a business model that has revenue, right?
And the revenue model then now turns back.
I guess my question is, is PumpFun going to start advertising?
i guess my question is is pump fun going to start advertising no they don't need to because because
because when you when i go live i go live on pump plus like 14 other platforms simultaneously right
and all the subscriptions and all the and all the ad revenue from all those and all the viewerships
and all those those create revenue and as the viewership increases and and as it starts to
accelerate your ad revenue from all those platforms tiktok youtube you name it starts to accelerate your ad revenue from all those platforms tiktok
youtube you name it starts to accelerate as well and it takes a while for this to happen doesn't
happen overnight right of course it'd be bet it'd be awesome if you already had like 10 000
subscribers on a youtube channel right but like it's it's it's more of an accelerator to for growth
to be tokenized if you do it right right? Because most people are so fucking greedy
That's a problem. Like all we hear
There's so much greed in this space that people really do they're doing it just for the money
But imagine someone who's already an entertainer someone who already entertains or someone who like give me an example
For like a kaisenat how would this effectively work for him?
Well, the thing is though
He doesn't really need it because he's already went into the stratosphere and he always makes so much money.
He doesn't really need it for growth.
So, Art, let's back up for a second.
You're saying this model works for people that need more engagement?
Yeah, it works for people that want to use it as a tool for growth.
Because streaming, dude, oh, my God, you want to get humbled?
Start streaming and and
you'll stream to nobody for a long time let's back up and go web two for a second this is
everything doesn't need to be an nft what's the difference between this and then the shitty
instagram seller that has 500 000 followers selling me an e-com course uh promising me all these things i'm paying him
three four grand just like the other five thousand people did now he's flooded to death in all his
comments still living his life relevant as fuck but in reality he rugged us all for a shitty course
well but of course there's going to be the bad and the good right but if someone knows how to
actually like run a legitimate or like run my
thing is how do i keep my holders happy without without the coin pumping i'd rather just sell a
fucking product and you just give me my money and i give you the product well the thing is though
you're not really selling anything to anybody you're more so giving people the opportunity
to benefit from the ad revenue that you that you that you garner from all the different platforms that entertain you.
I mean, but time is money,
so you are selling something you're selling your time.
Well, I'm saying you have the option
to buy a portion of the potential success
and then bet on that,
or you can just watch and be entertained to begin with.
Why would it be successful?
That's my indicator.
Like, what's the roadmap to success?
It's because every new follower
and every new engagement and every
new subscription uh actually grows you grows your account actually gives you more ad revenue right
on pump fun no no on all the on all streaming platforms they pay out like a motherfucker yeah
but i i i know we're talking okay so i i just want to circle back because
yeah we're just we're just gonna circle back here okay we're gonna circle back a little bit
he's sponsored by circle clearly we we keep on talking about all these other platforms
what does that have to do with pump fun i'm talking about pump fun specifically
not all the other platforms well here's the deal pump fun because because unable to tokenize
yourself and like the most non-frictionless manner is to launch yourself as a streamer on pump and
and then you become and then you become platform agnostic after that like you don't need just to
own you can stream like the way i stream on pump is i go live on all my platforms right like all
14 of them at the same time and then when i go live on pump i share my
kick uh stream directly to pumps you know live streaming protocol right so it gets a high quality
feed from my obs it's meant for kick and twitch and youtube yada yada so it looks really good
too it's not just some fucking stupid camera uh from your imac you know what i mean it's actually
well produced good microphones lighting you name it you know what i mean it's actually well produced good microphones lighting you name
it you know what I mean so it's like so pump fun is just literally it's it's one of the pieces of
puzzles that actually fits beautifully into a streamer's in his streamers like full business
model because now you can actually reward your your the people that that watch with a portion
and supply of your token therefore incentivize it and then
make you more make you more popular because if they tell their friend and their friend buys in
therefore there's another watcher another viewer another holder because there's my philosophy is
get a million holders at a dollar a piece not a thousand holders at a thousand dollars a piece
right that you want to be decentralized but but you know someone like kai sanat or aiden i'm a high ticket gal yeah
i'm saying like okay but okay for instance like like some about 24 yeah but but here's the deal
like you you can choose to bet on the success of that person's potential however large or small
you want right and the bigger you bet the the the more you're going to potentially uh profit from it
but the reason why these live streams uh go up and go down and price so fast because they're
actually priced exactly where the market says it should be and some of them are some of them are
pretty low you know what i mean but that's because the stream isn't that popular yet yeah if you had
a like look at ufd ufd is a live streaming meme token it went to 400 million
dollars right don't get it started on ufd yeah yeah so so ufd is a great example of what the
power of live streaming a tokenized live stream can be right they all were raw raw raw making it
more popular getting into more whatever happened to that life kid that was live for hours i cooked
on his little side coins. Whatever happened with that?
Which one?
The fucking dude.
He was live for 200 hours.
Live kid or some shit.
Oh, no.
Well, like I was live for 52 hours straight at launch.
And then there's one that was like sitting on a toilet.
There's one.
There's a bunch of them.
I'll send them to you.
I guess you're right.
There's a few at this time.
But, yo, I appreciate your take today and the energy. I can tell you're actually passionate about it. I'll give them to you. I guess you're right. There's a few at this time. But, yo, I appreciate your take today and the energy.
I can tell you're actually passionate about it.
I'll give you that.
I appreciate passion any time, any day of the week.
Rugger, give me a second.
Zell, and then we'll go to Rugger.
Go ahead, Zell.
Yeah, I mean, I kind of just want to chime in.
I feel like the whole live streaming token thing is very similar to how
Masters royalties work for music
except there's like an underlying asset actually there right you're gonna get paid out every month
from your distribution company per how much revenue your song made and that's why there's
an efficient market for companies purchasing the masters royalties for artists that's why you'll
see people like justin bieber be able to sell their catalog for hundreds of millions of dollars because there's an actual revenue stream
attached to that and although masters royalties go from 100 shares right you can have one percent or
you can have 100 of the song and tokens are essentially the same thing you're just breaking
that down with more zeros right you can have a trillion tokens which could be broken down into
percentages from one to a hundred.
It's just there's a inverse correlation there.
Like with the master's royalty to a song where there's like liquid markets, the song's actually producing some sort of revenue.
There's something underneath the token or underneath like that royalty that produces revenue for whoever owns it.
Whereas with the token that's
not really as established so like if you're just live streaming and you own like 10 of
a token from some live streamer you're not actually you know you're not guaranteed anything
from that live streamer success so i think like the market's just not matured enough
to be kind of operating the way you're describing in that case right i mean well it's new like that
the the wheels and the gears of this are so fucking new like dude it's barely a year old
you know what i mean like give it a couple years right yeah but like music royalties aren't even
on chain like you know we that that's been talked about for years producers and uh artists have been
saying how like it makes so much more sense for's royalties to be minted on chain as either a token or an NFT.
So it could have a liquid market trading underneath it and you could actually see the revenue.
And that royal shit dropped two years ago.
I fumbled into it for what?
For what?
For nothing.
I'm not bullish on music NFTs.
I'm sorry. Well, no, I'm not bullish on music NFTs. I'm sorry.
Well, no, but I mean, I'm not shilling a music NFT.
I mean, just like there are for each song that's out, if it's getting millions of streams a month, you are entitled to that revenue from the distribution company, right?
Based on how much percentage of the song you own.
So the idea was to mint that stuff on chain, right?
So the idea was to make that stuff on chain. Right.
And that never worked out. So I'm just saying like,
And that never worked out.
since that didn't really work out and that's the most applicable example we
have, I just think the owning a percentage of like a streamer's token doesn't
really make as much sense.
But no, but dude, but here's the deal.
You can't watch a song over and over.
You can't get continuous entertainment from,
from one track and a royalty. Right.
The difference here is, is that,
is that you pretty essentially have it. You're essentially tokenizing a tv channel right and then and then
all the ad revenue from the tv channel therefore goes back into the token but but why why pay to
watch when you can just watch and not buy the token no no no they're not paying to watch the
the the creator like the dev like myself is paying is is actually rewarding the viewers for
engaging and watching it's flipped okay but where's the money coming from from the token supply that i
hold okay but where's the money coming from that the liquidity pool is made up from bank account
yeah no no you're saying you're saying your portion of the money, you're circulating back into the token.
Yeah, because not only do you get subscriptions,
so therefore what you call the supply keeps going up.
Yeah, I mean...
The revenue goes back to the viewers in a really weird way.
I can see that in a perfect world.
Yeah, it's all fucked up.
Yeah, it's almost yeah it's it's
it's like it's almost like a ponzi where you just you get the money from from the volume you put
you put some of the money back in they buy the token their token price goes up they sell down
on a token and you just risk and repeat price never goes anywhere because you got constant
sellers where you're giving away the tokens but then it's like you have to set up what the multi
stigmas you know what i mean you gotta set you gotta you can set
all that shit up on automation because like dude some like one time this dude came in and dropped
100 subs right at six bucks a piece and then boom it's like dude some people do 100 subs per stream
and they're not even that big but could you imagine a,000 of buy pressure on a market cap every single day?
Who's going to stream for free rather than – why even participate in it? I guess at the end of the day.
People participate in streams all the time even without a token.
Like, dude, as far as a meme coin goes, what's the number one problem with most meme coins?
goes, what's the number
one problem with most meme coins?
They're static JPEGs.
value is absolutely dog shit because they're not
retaining anybody without any value.
And what makes a meme coin go up?
Content, content, content.
Not only front-end content, forward-facing
content like streaming in real time, and there's
also the plethora of back-end content
that comes from all those clicks.
I agree on that, but I don't
think streaming on PumpFun
is going to be incentivizing if you, the creator,
are sitting there daily going on PumpFun.
Even if you're streaming, why would you stream to a platform
that you're not getting paid from?
No, no, because PumpFun is just one of literally 67 other platforms you can stream to. It's literally just one more outlet because if you're a smart streamer, you push one button and you're broadcasting to every single. There's really no eyes on PumpFun as far as viewers.
I mean, I even watched
Ganji stream. I think he topped that around like 400.
He can do way more than that.
Yeah, but dude, that's way more than if
streamers started out on Twitch with zero.
And the discoverability
on Twitch is dog shit.
The only reason though is because somebody
thinks they're going to make money.
You're okay with that, basically Basically you're okay with that energy.
Cause cause I feel like there's a disconnect as somebody that's built communities and,
and like, uh, I guess relevance or any type of following literally on all the most relevant
platforms for the last 10 years, Facebook, everything. It, the number one reason people stay here or stay following is because
they feel some sort of trust so I feel like once that's broken like isn't it like constant
recycling of just new people and speculation or am I missing well there dude there's a shit ton
of churn when it comes to streaming right but but it's also but it's arguably the best way to
actually retain entertainment and retain viewers.
Because there's people, there's thousands if not hundreds of people on the very low, the mid-tier streamers that are doing really quite well as far as ad revenue and subs go per day.
But, like, they're doing it and they're not benefiting shit from a token at all.
They're just doing it just to do it.
Like, it's, like, the reason why you go live on Instagram, right, and it serves it to every single one of your followers like a little bloop up top you know
because every platform every platform is fucking live here's here's the thing people aren't
streaming the platform just to get new eyes they're typically streaming the platforms to
eventually get monetized and get paid by advertising then hell yeah that's and that's the dream right that's the atypical so so so now you take it one step further and tokenize that shit
making a new make into a business i mean you know we can we can we can try look i think i think this
thing will play out for a while here's here's the thing which i think there's a plan for a while but i don't think that this is the this is the new thing right i i think that it is a a new thing i think it will play out
for a while until max saturation and then it will move on the people on pump fun i don't know how
often you've been on pump up but the people on pump fun have no interest in watching streams they have interest in making money that's i agree
with that but but it is the fastest way you can you can you can uh reach your your target market
as a tokenized streamer right because it's like it's like what better way to go straight to the
jugular of people that are already trading and i agree the viewership on pump is pretty dog
shit when it comes to streaming.
But dude, if you think about it, Pump is barely a year old.
And if they're pushing this shit,
and they just announced what, like,
a grant program for streamers,
which I applied for.
Yeah, I saw that too.
Yeah, so I was like...
DJ, brother, hope you get it.
Yeah, I was like, fuck, man.
Like, dude, give me a couple of G's, bro.
Because, dude, like, I DJ for a living.
How dope would that be if you're on Pump, and put it out and someone's streaming with a lesso?
If they can catch some big fish with a grant, I think they'll do okay.
Yeah, fuck yeah.
But, dude, all these things.
Bro, this is AOL 1.0.
This is AOL 1996 before e-commerce hit.
You know what I mean?
Like, we're still in its infancy, bro.
That's a fucking comparison.
Can I hire you to sell for me? way this i just i love this guy but for real though dude we're we're in
the dot-com bus phase we're in like the 1997 98 dot-com bus phase where everybody puts the word
dot-com at the fucking end of everything and think they're a fucking tech company right
and then the pets and then the pets.com, they fucking collapse. And there's
thousands of other tech companies that are trading on the NASDAQ just fucking collapse.
And guess who, guess who fucking rises from the dust? The people that build through the bear,
that are actually trustworthy, that actually, that actually stick around and mean something
and do shit and become something, right right and those people are going to fucking are
going to absorb all that attention eventually because everybody else is going to eat shit
wait let me let me ask you a question real quick where are you from richard
um manhattan beach los angeles i love that i love that um are you a fan of gary v
um yeah i've i've listened to a lot of his shit and yeah there's definitely
that video of him saying oh my god we can go directly to fucking they can click the advertising
yeah like the penguin with a penis in his eye it's my favorite video of all time
um yeah i was just wondering if you heard of it we'll continue on with the hands i appreciate you
what's up rugger and then we'll go to Blake.
Yo, what's up? I mean, Richard, I love what you were saying.
I was just kind of going to simplify it, you know,
especially with like kind of Will's objections. Like people already throw money at streamers and they already throw money at
PumpFun.
A lot more people probably throw money at streamers than they do at PumpFun.
But, you know, to separate, so it's kind a no-brainer to combine the two and multiply those audiences
um as richard was saying but like if we just take one if you just take take the people who
throw money at streamers um if you turn around to them and say all of a sudden the money that
you're throwing at me you're not just throwing it at me and i'm keeping it and i'm putting it back into my stream but you you're putting it into something like you said you kind
of you you own something like whatever money you were going to throw at me anyway and it's just
gone from your wallet you're exchanging all you're doing is exchanging that for something else
that could potentially be have more value in the future and then and that's and then you've got
the eyes from a platform like pump fun
where people are just throwing money at tokens anyway like they don't care if it's a streamer
or not if they see number go up they're going to jump in um but then but then as richard said again
you then pretend you then some of those people are the same people that throw money at streamers
um just for the fun i have a question what about about the shout out to the deployers out there that really run those
runners up? How do they feel?
Are they excited
to go show their face and go
stream or are they just deploying in
the cut while you bozo stream?
No, they're fucking pussies. They're hiding behind
fucking PFPs all the fucking day.
But they take off the 10M at least!
Yeah, but here's the deal, dude. The reason
why I turned on the fucking camera
is because everybody hides behind TGs,
PFPs, and everything because there's no trust and transparency
in this space. I cooked and clapped
transparency, and that's why no one likes to
go live because they don't have
reputations to uphold. They can just fucking
rug the fuck out of everybody because they don't have a face to the name.
It actually solves a trust issue
on top of it.
I mean, there's a lot
of people in this space that go live.
I've even seen ruggers go live regularly.
No, no, for sure.
But I'm saying, like, the people that, I mean, everybody misses.
But I know there's a good group of people that won't do that shit,
but they'll just continue to deploy.
Blaze, what's up?
You got your hand up.
Appreciate you pulling up, my fellow suey brother.
What it do?
What it do?
Just one second.
Hold on. My bad. My bad, Blaze.
Sorry, Blaze. Sorry, man. Sorry.
I just wanted to point out real fast.
I watched a guy on PumpFun yesterday
streaming from three different coins.
And he was on all of them.
That's some different shit.
Go ahead, Blaze.
I just wanted to say that.
No, it was good uh no i kind of wanted to circle back like we'll be saying um on so y'all was talking about uh like projects
starting like gambling or you know gamble fire type stuff yeah like founders pivoting to gamble
fire type shit yeah yeah so i know like I know like one of the most sustainable businesses,
and I'm not, I don't have no numbers in front of me or whatever,
but just off of being alive for a while,
is vices and, you know, fucking services,
essential services and whatnot.
Most importantly, vices too, like, you know, like liquor stores.
I mean, Vegas is built off vices and whatnot um so what do you guys think and like this is a question for everybody what do you guys think
about communities that started without funding with uh cheap mints and you know was built off
of just straight community how you know how nfts kind of started you know
i think clay knows they're doing a good job of that and keeping it clean and keeping it not weird
i also think sugar town is doing a great job of that i'm not sure any other examples at the top
of my brain at the moment but that's what i think i think there is very, very small amount, and I think it's unfortunate because it's a dying breed in a way, but that proves who is fit to put their fucking sleeves up when it's time, and then other people that, in reality, they probably weren't moving with their heart to begin with.
I mean, not to sound cliche and corny, but yeah.
When there's a fucking will, there's a way.
No pun intended.
So Clayno started without funding?
And I thought they were like VC funded and shit.
So I don't know the backstory.
I'm saying.
Go ahead, Zell.
Go ahead.
Yeah, they actually all quit their jobs from like professional level design and animation
studios.
And they put that together.
And they actually launched in the depths of the Salon of Bear Market. from professional-level design and animation studios, and they put that together.
And they actually launched in the depths of the Solana bear market.
They didn't pivot or go to any other chains at the time.
So I actually got to say a lot of respect for their team.
They pulled it up from their bootstraps, and they really got it done.
They built a real community, and now they're expanding to other chains,
which I think is really cool.
Yeah, and we don't have to go deep.
I'm just trying to spit out, because there's a few. And if you got some Blaze, please share them.
But I feel like that is just so low.
I don't know.
Goons, another good community.
I don't think they're VC-backed at all.
They're still shipping.
Those founders live, breathe, eat what they do.
But yeah, I feel like that's a very low number in this space.
Because, I mean, let's be real most people that came in and launched uh they didn't really have a vision
anyway i think i think they just saw 2021 and they just saw numbers and money and opportunity
i i mean my my whole thing is with this whole this whole meta is i i think it a start. I don't think it's an end goal.
And I think they're going to have to build on it if they want it to be successful.
I don't think they can stop here.
And if they don't move further than that, I don't see it going much further than saturation.
Now, if they start pivoting and adjusting this and adding some different nuances to, you know, the way that they're setting this up or even add advertising,
which would be massive. Right. And then just been like, okay,
or even offer some of their portion,
even more of their portion to go towards liquidity pools and just to push
volume through. Right. So volume that comes in so much of that code goes back
into the token. Like that's,
it shouldn't be on the creator to be the one to have to do that it
should be on the platform to be the one to incentivize those
things and the platform should be the one trying to set that up
not the creator. Creators should get paid for their time.
Platforms themselves are offering a platform. But
ultimately, they're the business. They're the ones who
have to create the structure for the business not the creator.
Go ahead. they're the ones who have to create the structure for the business not the creator yeah I just wanted to say I think I'm you know going off what you just said will like if there is a platform to like take a bunch of you
know big swings at this I think it's pumped up on like in terms of just
overall revenue and Treasury like they really could invest in the infrastructure here so i mean i think
it like to judge the platform like on what it did so far um in the live streaming endeavors would be
a little bit unfair i i think they do have the war chest available to them to really um
you know take a big swing at this see where it goes and i think it'll ultimately come down to
like if they're serious about the whole live streaming like tokenizing creators element or
This is just like the next kind of pivot to keep like volume up on the platform
Dude, they need to do an airdrop, bro
We're all gonna be fucking rich from all the shit as we trade bro. Like just airdrop us all now
Bro they airdrop. I won't talk shit no more
Dude, like I
Airdrop so that's that's what we need to focus on I won't talk shit no more. Dude, like I'm getting out of 150 tokens a day. Yo, Kato, Kato's smoking with airdrops.
So that's what we need to focus on.
That's what we need to focus on, in my opinion, as a collective here.
Rucker, back to you, brother.
You got it.
Go ahead.
Oh, yeah.
I was just going to say I know of a particular project that started with nothing funded from their own pockets with mostly a freeman that is still building over the last six months
and has done nearly a half a million dollars in volume on Ape Chain.
But I might be biased, so do your own research.
See? There you go.
You said on Ape Chain, too. Not Utes.
You would ruin the moment.
Hey, Sui got a lot of shit cooking, too, over there.
Uh-huh.
I know. I need to spend time over there. Jesus Christ.
I need to look over there.
Will, that's a problem.
Hey, hold on. Let's do this real quick.
Will, did you buy the NFT I sent you
yesterday at 2 p.m. Eastern? No.
I don't remember.
The floor was 15 Sui.
Guess what the floor is today, brother. Guess what the floor is today, brother.
Guess what the floor is today.
We went to 40.
We went to 40.
I know we retraced it.
I'll buy a 40.
Send it to me.
I bought it rare.
That means my shit up even more, bro.
Let's get it.
Let me go sell it.
Yeah, that shit crazy.
It's funny, though, because motherfuckers like Will, like, and I'm not going on you, Will.
This is funny.
Like, people that was in with Testnet, they totally skipped over the NFT part because they made their money already.
Will doesn't like staking.
Will doesn't like extra shit.
Will doesn't like derivatives.
He just buys the crack pure.
That's how Will is.
That's the kind of motherfucker Will is.
Look, I've watched too many people get stuck in Celsius.
I watched too many people get stuck in all this bullshit, FTX collapse.
I'm just like, you know what?
I'm just going to buy the chain, and that's it.
And then if it pops off, I got lots of chain token to play around.
Just like with, like, Solana and ETH, right?
When they popped off, you had a lot of token to play around with if you bought solana and then you were basically running the space there you go
yeah i mean blaze any other projects we should focus on uh no i don't want to will hates um
lending and lsts probably so i'm not going to talk about Sui Lend
Or any of those things
No no actually
I did stake with Scallop
I liked the yield it wasn't too bad
Alright just saying
I have done some work
Over there
Nothing crazy but I've done some work
Over there
That's hard
Yeah that project That project Nothing crazy, but I've done some work over there. That's hard.
Yeah, that project that Profits was talking about that she sent you yesterday, they are going to have a lot of allocations for different airdrops.
So I would just keep my eye out for that.
Hold on.
I don't know.
It's a hot take probably.
It's a D-Gen take as well.
I feel like my whole crypto career, the most hardest thing,
and it's not even that it's hard, it's time consuming.
The most time consuming thing is once you learn, oh shit, I could farm here,
I could put some money here and, you know, make some airdrops, right?
Like I remember the Uniswap airdrop, that was like one of the first biggest,
craziest airdrops, I think, for our space.
But if you think about it with cool stuff like this, Remember the Uniswap airdrop, that was like one of the first biggest, craziest airdrops, I think, for our space.
But if you think about it with cool stuff like this, and Solana did this too, Bitcoin as well, Puppets. I remember they got tons of stuff that was hot at the time or anybody that just had an ordinal.
Bro, we got literally a $6,000 asset.
The fucking, those little rocks, the fucking whatever the fuck Leo was giving away.
The fucking those little rocks, the fucking whatever the fuck Leo was giving away.
Like, come on.
Like, anyway, I think NFTs is like the easiest brain dead way to just farm other shit.
Granted, you got to know what the fuck to buy.
And that's why I said this yesterday.
After four years here, if there's anything you got from this space, I hope it's a group chat that gives you some fucking information that's good and not some pvp shit right a collective a group of friends a group
of people right anything um but yeah that's my little hot brain dead take about nfts in today's
market no hell yeah like fuck the fnf groups i mean if that's what you want to do do that but it's definitely
more sustainable to get you know actual alpha where you can park your money and kind of sit
and forget it right and be a part of a community that's actually giving you more value than just
trade this ticker i got this ticker like bro everybody's not great at that
yeah that's what i tell people too but here's the thing blaze like
suey a lot of people like they so nobody here's the one thing i know i know about in this space
and this is something i've talked to you about profits before too is that nobody wants to be
early everybody wants to be where everybody else is it's like you're going to a campground right
there's a bunch of people camping you you don't look at the spot where everybody's not at right you're like oh there's a clear spot
over there i can get that whole space myself you're like well there's like 20 20 tents over
there let me try and like fit my tit in between all these other tents right here and see if i can
get a spot and then you're going to be absolutely miserable trying to follow everybody like you got
you got to look for opportunities sometimes where everybody
else is not is right now some of these chains seem like ghost towns but they're actually
opportunities waiting to happen they're not ghost towns at all and they only seem like ghost towns
because there's no gambling going on over there right it's good it's like okay nobody's over there
smoking crack and throwing you know dice over in the corner so i don't want to go over there i want
to stay i want to stay over here where they're smoking crack and throwing dice over in the corner, so I don't want to go over there. I want to stay over here where they're smoking crack and throwing dice in the corner.
That's how most of the space is right now.
Even if you don't smoke crack, I just want to be there.
I want to be part of the party.
Yo, real quick.
8.37 p.m. Eastern.
Happy fucking Tuesday.
Shout out to Topher Sensei.
You won a free claw giveaway.
Let's get it.
DMing you right now.
You better have sent that BZ address.
Bongi.
What the fuck?
Bongi, my guy.
Wow. Next winner. Shout out out to you those are the two
winners so far we got one more winner i'm gonna call it in like 10 minutes will's trying to leave
i'm not letting him leave because now i like streaming now i like streaming i'm not fucking Fucking leave me. Oh, you're fucked, Will.
You're fucked.
So, Will, on a scale from one to ten, how bullish on conferences are you?
And don't lie.
I already know what you're going to say, but don't lie to the people.
I fucking hate conferences.
So, like a one?
Like lower than that.
I absolutely hate
conferences. Like I've been to some conferences
where they have good food. I still hate
them. So I'm going to give three
positive reasons why I think conferences
are good. And then I want
to hear your response
to that. I've dealt with a lot of conferences.
Fair enough. I know you're going to say that next.'ve dealt with a lot of conferences. Fair enough.
I know you're going to say that next.
You feel like you're retired.
So I have as well, from MLMers selling me snake oil to e-commerce, self-development,
everything under the sun.
I've walked on fire with Tony Robbins.
Everything.
Spent $12,000 to walk on fire with Tony Robbins.
What do you think happened next? We'll talk about it on another segment. I'm going to have to charge you guys $1,000 for that one. But the point is, I think you get to learn. I think you get to hear IRL from, I'm not talking about builders that are launching a 10,000 shitty corny nft i'm talking about like people from real uh you know major vc firms and institutions and i per i i personally like bitcoin for that style of like kind of like almost like the
corporate side i think of crypto even in a way so like that's why i think they're good but you're
just saying you're just over them there's no new information that you can get from them that's
what you're saying no no no no i i. There's no new information that you can get from them. That's what you're saying.
No, no, no, no, no. I think there's good insider information I can get at conferences.
Fair enough.
I think there's definitely that.
But, like, I think, and here's the thing.
I went to the Bitcoin conference over there in Florida last year.
Brother, brother, you were with BitBoy, though.
Look, we were just hanging out.
LOL, LOL, I'm fucking though LOL I'm fucking around
In the pit house
But no
But listen
I went to the Bitcoin conference
And there was all these different things there
Nothing I haven't seen
Because I deal with tech everyday
Tech is not anything new to me
So a lot of stuff they talk about
In crypto is not anything new to me. A lot of the stuff they talk about. You're not impressed.
In crypto
is not anything that hasn't already been
created at some point in Web 2.
The one
thing that did interest me, and it's
going to be a really hot take,
was the Pepe art.
That I was interested in. The rest
of it, I didn't give two shits about any
of it. I liked the Pepe art when I was there in. The rest of it, I didn't give two shits about any of it.
I liked the Pepe art when I was there at the Bitcoin conference.
Everything else is kind of like trying to sell me a product.
It's almost like, A, we know that there's vinegar at every store and every shelf,
but this is a special type of vinegar that I made.
And that's what people are trying to sell you at these conferences it's like what you're doing is nothing special and it's not as good as most of the things that are
basically the same thing as what you're doing i agree a lot of redundant shit and and you got to
learn how to stick and move uh zell go ahead brother yeah i just want to chime in on the
events thing i'm happy you brought this up actually i've been going to events for the past like four or five years now it's been crucial in like building
matrica i just have an issue nowadays with conferences i don't know what happened i go to
side events i go to the main conference nobody's wearing their company shirts nobody wants to
network nobody wants to actually forge relationships or kind of build partnerships i
remember my first two three years or my first two years especially like some of the relationships i
made at these conferences like really helped matrica grow and now it's like you know some
of the people i'm connecting with at events like they don't even want to talk like i come up to
someone say hey how are you like what are you working on like how's your night going they're
kind of just like who the fuck is this guy? Like, what's your Twitter? Yep.
So I just want to throw that out there. Like, I do think that something has shifted in the community that shows up to events.
Maybe it's like the certain really hungry builders got to that point in their fundraising
to where it's like the founders themselves aren't coming out and it's their BD reps and
their BD reps don't really care as much.
But there has been kind of a change in tone
across like solana bitcoin east and like the conference goers that i've distinctly noticed
what's that i here's the thing i think to his point though you are 100 on point like i've been
to some of these conferences and like you get some of these people that are like influencers and they'll walk around and act like they don't know who you are and then you got you know these
these like literally tons and tons of companies at these conferences none of them want to want
to talk to each other they don't want to interact there's a there's like a cardboard wall between
them and they act like it's like some kind of like prison or cage i've learned that i'm actually better off not trying to meet those people and then there's always like a full circle moment of
their they feel oh my god i yeah that i see why you're charging me full price now like you get
it you know what i mean like it just it just happens like that so i think those are actually
those are blessing in disguises although i it is cringy. Well, I agree. It's fucking cringy.
Yeah, I met a couple people I like at these conferences,
but it's few and far in between.
I will say that.
There's a lot of people just come in there just to try and flex what they have
or try to flex who they are.
Or, you know, they feel like that that's the reason they're there
or to try and pretend like they're the best product on the floor.
It's like that's not how real companies operate.
It's just not.
I've worked in, you know, the Web2 world for a long time.
I've been to tons of conferences.
I've been speakers at conferences.
I've taught I've listened to speakers at conferences.
A lot of them being, you know, some of them knowing what they're talking about.
A lot of them not and pretending they do.
And it's it's so I don't know.
I feel like it's exhausting sometimes mentally.
No, I there's a there's like a routine, you know, set routine.
I'm always looking for meeting people one on one that may just be in the area.
And then that's like the biggest thing, because like that's there's no better time to do
that and then also um like any specific events that i think are important like for example i was
going to sui events for months and it's funny the last one i went to was was so fucking packed
compared to the one i went to literally four months before that. So that's what I like to notice, too.
So those are my, like, IRL indicators as to what's hot.
Like, after those events recently, dude, everybody remembers from the spaces.
I'm like, yo, this, oh, my God, that is lit.
NFT Paris, same thing.
Like, yeah, it's, there's a big give and take, and I think it's important to like have a balance no matter what it is and depending on what your role is in the space um tripling down on that IRL is big right
you know you do direct you know business development then you shouldn't be making a
goal to like reach and meet people and like share things and like get to the point of like
what a 20 minute call to two, three,
20 minute calls can do. You can knock all that out literally in one meeting.
Yeah. Go ahead. The point, the point of conferences for those who may or may not have been
to a lot of professional conferences in your life, it's, it's literally to expand and talk to people,
create connections and, you know and potentially expand your arsenal of people
that you know and people you can reach out to in different sectors if you ever need.
Most companies, they're very good about being friendly with other companies and so on and
so forth because they may be an arm for another company or they may help another company and
so on and so forth.
But these crypto events, man, it just like nobody nobody communicates with anybody it's absolutely
wild it's everybody's standoffish a lot of the time but uh yeah i mean hopefully they can clean
it up i don't know i will say it hasn't always been like that i just kind of noticed a trend
recently of conferences having like just like a maybe
more so a different crowd like people not really as engaged or they're kind of like oh i'm here
because i have to be sort of vibe and it like i'm not saying like events are bearish like i've been
a big fan of them for years i just have noticed like a change in attitude of a lot of people that
attend maybe it's fatigue because like you know i i know for like our our solana builders and our east builders this is like your
you know third time going to the to the same conference year over year you're seeing the
same people like it could just be that but um i just want to see if anyone else kind of noticed
the vibe shift at some of the events i i'm not gonna lie i was there i'm gonna give you some
alpha brother if you if
you'd allow me if you feel like you see the same people then i would argue that you're not spending
the best time wisely in those places where you can probably go and be going to some good side
events maybe maybe i'm wrong because i i mean i if i if i see the same people it's because i'm
purposely trying to see them, my friend, right?
A friend or something that like also likes to go to conferences or whatever it is.
But I see, I always see new people, different people and make it like a thing to do so.
Like even like have a notebook or some sort of like count of like, okay, I want to be exhausted at the end of the day from
all the meeting I was doing. Granted, there's a way to be effective. I'm not talking about small
talk, but you're building something, you need something, you're looking for something,
you have a goal, whatever it may be, and get straight to know, I think Melina was one of the people I spoke to
recently. She was in Dubai with me and a few others. And like, when you see the effectiveness
of like, the DM is live. It's like, imagine you get to go through all your DMs and everybody's
right there in your face and they're responding right there. You get to know right away. Like,
that's how I really take it. By the way, I pinned up tomorrow's space.
Make sure you set a reminder because we love the X algorithm.
We got Kevin, the former D-Labs CEO, pulling up.
We're going to have a great conversation.
Will has amazing constructive corporate questions for him.
I have some amazing questions for him.
I'm very excited.
It's going to be really good.
And I'm not going to lie.
It's long overdue.
And he said I could ask whatever I want.
So I'm excited.
So make sure you guys pull up.
Maybe we wear a youth tomorrow.
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people some people were asking questions that were late. Bearish in June.
Bullish right now, bearish in June.
That's it.
That's the meta.
Not crazy, though.
Not crazy bearish.
It's going to be a drawdown.
You're going to get a nice little sweep, take advantage of it, and then run it up.
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