I'm not gonna lie this is uh very disappointing
This is very disappointing.
You guys continue to disappoint the fuck out of me.
I almost can't believe it right now.
I literally, I wanna say I'm dreaming.
I wanna say I'm dreaming.
That's what I wanna believe.
I wanna believe that we're not that stupid.
I'm about to get started.
Like, comment, repost the room.
20th comment, activate some Ethereum
into one of your wallets.
Or even Solana, like, comment, repost to qualify.
This is so fucking nutty.
It's cool, it's cool, it's cool, it's cool, it's cool.
Now, now I believe why you guys said
the Kirito Undead's founder wronged already.
You guys gotta be fucking kidding me.
This art looks like fucking three other projects.
there has to be something special
that I don't know about it.
Are they minted on rare sats?
Like, I'm in a chat and somebody has a PFP
and I'm like, hey, not trying to be weird.
What's the difference between your PFP
And I don't know what's worse,
the sucking off on the timeline or what?
I see why Dolly didn't want to pull up to the space.
I asked him to come for the last week.
I wanna hear about the fucking hype.
You know where to go because everybody else
is gonna ask you hard and real fucking
or seriously easy questions and when you come here,
you're gonna get some real specific questions.
You guys are just sucking dick wild.
Like, I get it, the 20 soul is a nice bag.
Get the fuck out of here.
Shout out to Magic Eden, by the way.
Get in that train while you love to fucking see it.
Absolutely love to see it.
The dick sucking on the TL is crazy.
Yeah, your kid probably can't listen
to this part of the show right now
Like, the gym was great, great day.
Like, everything was lit.
I'm like, cool, cool, cool.
You know, undead, cool, cool, cool.
I haven't fought it at all.
I'm like giving it a chance.
Even though we know what's up,
it's like when that girl tells you,
oh, I've never done this before.
Or, yeah, I've only slept with three people,
but she's probably really slept with like 30.
This is, I try to give it a chance.
I try to give it a fucking chance.
And also, nothing wrong with sleeping with 30 people,
especially if you're like over 30.
But the point is, the point is,
you guys really, really fuck me up with this shit.
You guys built the, and it's one thing,
and the same thing with the Nifty Island shit.
We're gonna talk about that as well.
I'm always getting a bag.
Get your bags, my friends.
But if we're gonna just suck off
for the simple trade-off of money,
just take me back to 2021.
I thought we learned throughout the process.
Dude, some of these spaces I used to love listening to,
now that y'all dead ass on a contract
and y'all just going live because it's on the contract.
I used to be like, oh, I love tuning into so-and-so space.
You guys have mad people in the audience.
Y'all just drop the ball.
It's like running down the court, layup,
miss the layup with the back,
like even didn't even hit the backboard.
You guys are straight dropping the fucking ball, man.
For a little bit of money.
Very fucking short-sighted.
We got a lot to talk about, a lot to cover.
Mint of the day is the increments.
Shout out to Trevor with the Bitcoin Ordinals community.
They're minting on pizza sats.
Excited to see how that goes.
I'm about to push the fucking red button.
Look, the most decorated competition is decimated.
Your drive is designated.
Niggas got you to the spot.
Reason's for it's regulated.
We know how it escalated.
We're gonna celebrate it.
If I'm being honest, this morning, I woke up
and I was like, oh, this is how I feel
I was like, feeling this vibe.
I was like, yeah, this is fucking how I feel right now.
This is exactly how I feel when it comes to Web 3.
Like, if you guys know this song,
Like, Web 3, you got me feeling today's theater over here.
And then you got an article too.
Your heart is hard to carry after dark.
Web 3, your heart is absolutely hard to fucking.
I can't keep up with you guys.
20th comment, unlocks some Ethereum or Solana,
And the best part about that is,
it's not money or crypto that is from a multi-sig
It's from a wallet that earns their money.
So anyway, welcome to the show.
I appreciate you guys being here.
Appreciate the fucking support.
We're about to jump into it.
Scott already chewed out your favorite influencer
in our hella spaces today.
So he's not even that hot.
He's gonna come in super chilling.
He's fucking, he's excited to give the outfit of the day.
Wherever the fuck Will is.
We don't even know if his phone works.
We got a special guest pulling up.
Make sure to stay tuned for that.
Also get your notebooks out
so you guys can take some notes.
You don't have to fucking take notes to be honest.
Because the amount of things and conversations
like I learn every single day.
I'm learning every single day.
I'm learning something new.
But anyway, let's get into it.
Thank you guys for being here.
I promise I'm in a good fucking mood.
I just, the greatest thing about being anonymous,
by the way too, is you could get away with this shit.
Y'all can get away with this fuckery.
We wanna suck each other off in a circle joke space
of hundreds of people and act like we give a fuck
when we really don't give a fuck.
I'd rather spend time on quality content.
And all fucking, all of you in the community,
in the Weptoring Sports community specifically,
All of you will come out on top.
And there's all types of people here.
Pudgies, shout out to the pudgies.
Big shout out to the pudgies.
Big shout out to the pudgies.
I told him to come through.
He's definitely gonna stop by if he's free.
Motherfuckers were fainting him all year.
I said, bro, you need a towel, like pause.
What's the news of the day, Kings?
Oh, it's been an interesting day.
I just try to be in my little D-10 lane
But y'all Nifty Island motherfuckers
So yeah, any Nifty Island bullish people
that are not on the payroll, okay?
if you want to share your opinion today.
Yeah, so if you're bullish, not only personally,
but you have facts why it's going to succeed
and how it's going to bring web two gamers in,
come on up, I'm ready to cook.
I know motherfuckers don't like Gary
or half people love him, half people hate him.
But yo, Facebook going crazy for web three growth.
I don't know how else to tell you.
I don't know, told you about LinkedIn,
motherfuckers still didn't listen.
So again, stop sleeping and get the fuck off Twitter.
Twitter is the fucking dead ass
last fucking app for growth.
Especially for web three,
position yourself on every app.
Use Twitter as your voicing tool.
So let's get into the fucking interesting news.
We all saw Vanek tweet, right?
They're becoming an NFT Paris conference partner.
And they said they're coming for your JPEGs.
Thought that was fucking hilarious.
My son thinks it's hilarious.
Sorry, I don't mean to swear everybody.
So yeah, they're coming for your JPEGs.
Whether they're trolling or being serious,
thought it was pretty damn funny.
Yo, D-pin company, the digital infrastructure,
they raised $12 million in series A funding.
Again, I don't know how many times I can say D-pin
I don't know how many times I can say machine RWA in a day.
I don't, you guys keep going for these mean coins
while Crass 50X in front of your fucking face.
And we're gonna get into another fucking coin today too.
Yeah, Scott's talking about coins these days,
not shit coins, these RWA and D-pin coins.
Yo, Coinbase listed Solana's D-pin Hive Mapper.
Shout out Hive Mapper, congratulations.
Fucking bullish on all these mapping D-pins.
Casu, the RWA platform, secure $3 million
in seed funding round, led by Woodstock, Morningstar
And here is something very, very interesting.
I'm gonna try to pretend Will's taught me well, right?
So, the most anticipated RWA project of the year.
If you guys don't know, it was the company
that successfully tokenized the BlackRock ETF
in the fully compliant way.
They just launched at around 1 billion FDV
Circulating supply, of course, D-Y-O-R motherfuckers,
but since you guys like to ape into shit coins
with random founders, this is interesting.
Circulating supply is 14% with no unlocks for 12 months.
The circulating market cap is 140 million.
12% of the 14% is an ecosystem growth allocation
that the team will slowly spend over time.
So, the real liquid, the only liquid circulating supply
is 2% corresponding to the token sold on the coinless
sell almost two years ago at 55 cents.
And that was a $550 million valuation.
So again, D-Y-O-R, something to, you know,
you guys throw fucking ETH and 100 Soul at these weird things,
throw 100 Soul on some of these RWA liquidity pools.
Throw some fucking, you know, test this Ondo,
Congrats to Peak, let's keep it on D-Fin.
They just passed Binance and Algorand.
They're now fourth in all blockchains for D-Fin projects.
Shout out to the boys at Z-Bite.
Basically, it's to boost Web3 adoption across businesses.
They aim to accelerate adoption of Web3
by building API-first decentralized platform protocol
that will offer support for multiple layer one blockchains
connecting to Web2 systems and the ability
to use dApps with configurable gas fees.
Last thing, AI artists out there,
I know there's a lot of you, you know,
really testing the limits of AI art.
Coinbase is introducing something called Instament.
It's a feature on the marketplace
that's gonna allow users to create NFTs using AI.
So, you know, that's something to check out.
I haven't checked it out myself,
but yeah, kind of light in the news today.
Not the D-Fin news, this shit filled the fuck up.
But yeah, man, good to be here.
Yeah, I've been, you know,
me and province have not been fighting,
but like, yeah, motherfuckers pissed me off
Now I'm just like, love y'all.
No, I mean, it's just, I want innovation, man.
I wanna see shit break and work and try.
But if we don't be more cautious,
we're gonna run into the same thing from 2021.
And then you're gonna have people come into this space,
rush in and rush right out.
So I was on Pancake Space with like Inverse,
And some of those, you know,
a lot of those dudes are fucking pretty smart guys
You know, so I was just doing a lot more listening.
And as much as like they, you know,
they're calling it kind of phase two.
I'm sure Machi can speak on this.
A lot of people that that were successful,
you know, in the last run,
he's basically saying that this is like the phase two
of NFTs, but deep down inside,
he said in D5, motherfuckers kind of learned,
not learned the lesson, but got smarter.
But he's like, a lot of them don't think
that might happen to your problems.
I know you don't wanna hear that.
We all thought everyone was gonna get smarter,
but it's like the yellow brick roads
are all going to the same places.
And it seems like people still haven't learned,
but yeah, can't really yell on the soapbox
for too much longer, but I'm gonna let Will cook.
And of course he can't accept the co-host.
Now, giving me the opportunity to unmute
and then giving somebody else the opportunity
Thank you guys for being here.
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We go live every day, except Wednesday's 5 p.m. Eastern.
We talk everything web three, NFTs, crypto, relevance,
and not just fabricated circle jerks of shitty opinions
but some actual research actually doing it.
I mean, just look at the last few shows.
The fucking panel has been immaculate.
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but thank you as always for supporting guys.
Hey, real quick, I forgot to,
I'm not gonna let myself not get dunked on.
So yesterday, this is for all the listeners.
Yeah, I got drained yesterday.
Fucking, luckily it was a wallet.
Yeah, so luckily it was a wallet
I don't really fuck with.
My dumb ass, I'm so deep in fucking crazy.
I see get grass, the owner of get grass, right?
A lot of us like bullish on dude.
So some, the company like that get grass is under,
I guess their shit got hacked somehow.
And then they got ahold of the CEO of get grass
And he's like, yo, everybody,
your points are gonna switch to get grass tokens.
And you know, everybody in deep, like, you know,
same morning I give people web three
about fucking token this shit.
I don't even look bro, I'm so fucking excited.
I'm like, oh shit, I knew this was gonna happen bro.
We gonna get tokens off this internet shit.
I click it and luckily it was just a little bit of magic,
I got too excited yesterday, clicked some shit,
lost a couple of hundred bucks, but yo,
It could have been some fucking,
it could have been my whole, you know,
I keep a little too much and while it's like,
it could have been some detrimental shit
where I probably may skip the show today.
So yeah, man, be careful.
Even my ass just got got thinking that my fucking internet
get grass internet bandwidth is turning into some tokens.
And sure enough, after I click
and it said I wasn't eligible, of course,
I look at the comments and everyone's like,
All I had to do was take 10 fucking seconds,
look in the comments, not even going,
like I could have win the discord,
but I could have just fucking, just took a deep breath.
Like I always say, you'll always survive one minute later,
but no, I fucking did it afterwards.
And you know, that only cost me a couple of hundred bucks,
but great lesson learned.
Now it's like Scott, chill out with the D Pen,
fucking RWA shit, yo ass is gonna get got there too.
So yeah, I'm gonna be a little bit more calm now.
You know, just like I tell other people to do,
even when it's something that I'm very excited about.
So be careful y'all seeing a lot of grifters
like Evan coming out, asking if they could
Bro, you said his name again, did he sponsor,
did he pay you to say his name again?
No, I just want people to know when they see that motherfucker
go, all that's to do is kind of suck, bro.
Bro, I was with that motherfucker in Asia.
I was trying to ask him about this shit.
He said he don't even run his Twitter account,
but that's another discussion.
Anyway, guys, welcome to the show.
Scott, I'm super sorry that happened.
I did just farm that though and tweeted out
No, you know, I love dunking on myself.
I think it like helps people out the most.
He be smoking a lot of woods, but fuck.
This motherfucker in the woods.
I will say, too, it's that time, a lot of excitement.
And it could be for you, for whatever it is,
you're fascinated on the space, right?
Like, I'm not shocked that you were rushing to see something
because you're really fascinated with deep end right now,
But yeah, sorry that happened.
Hope you guys learned to take a little time.
Take it slow, like the first date.
Can you tell I'm excited?
My crush told me she's listening to my space today.
William, the show is live, and we're
depending on you to tell us where my short is going
because I shorted that fuck out of Bitcoin today.
I mean, we talked, all right?
We already talked, so you already know.
Yeah, I mean, we discussed it the other week.
We talked between $42 and $38.
Looks like the market went full stop here.
Doesn't want to completely come down yet,
but we could still bleed down lower.
Yeah, I mean, overall, you know, the market is where it is.
I'm seeing a lot of strength across the board on altcoins,
so I'm thinking this is a little bit of a shakeout
versus like any type of systematic drop
that people think is coming.
I always love it because people are always
talking about some kind of flush that's
going to occur directly from the high,
and we're just going to go into a secular bear market again.
It's like, you have no clue what you're talking about.
You know, you can look at price here
and see basically all previous consolidations.
Like, I hate to be that guy in the room,
but just like higher time frames, guys.
Like, just literally drop it up a little bit,
You could see where the consolidation zones have occurred,
and where price is basically hovering.
It's not difficult. You know,
if you're on the H4 or the H1 or the H6,
the HA, yeah, I understand.
You're basically looking at things from the rearview mirror
and not reading the part that things in the mirror
are closer than they appear.
I think overall, the market, like, you know,
everybody across the board as far as Twitter
are all talking about some kind of move
back down to like 10K, low 20s, so on and so forth.
They just don't understand structure whatsoever
So, you know, like you have to violate easily a 33K, 30K
to even remotely talk about low 20s, tens,
any of that stuff, or revisit a low.
Like, there's so many supports here.
I mean, even at the highest where we're at right now,
like, we haven't violated anything till you break 38K.
And then once you break 38K,
at some point there's potential
that you could end up going into like a deviation
which are two totally different things
for those of you who don't know,
deviations just like a move below the range,
but then a rip right back into it,
which is usually indicative of a fake out
that a lot of people end up getting caught in
on the short side and then end up getting liquidated
when it runs right back for the high again.
I would urge people to look at the range,
and this is where I was talking about previously
when I was talking to you guys,
and that range was between 25 and 30K.
We ran up, hit 30, came back, hit 25,
ran up, hit 32, right, formed a higher high,
Everybody thought it was going to 22,
and then what we do, we reach straight out of it, right?
And then when we were hitting in 38 range,
a lot of people were like, oh, 33K.
And I was like, yeah, 33K is the new 22K.
I'm like, go ahead and bid higher.
So, I mean, anticipation for a lot of people,
they just talk, they want your attention.
So they're gonna sit there and bear post
when things are bears, they're gonna bull post
but they're not gonna tell you actual directionality
so you can position correctly, right?
It's all about attention in this market and not a space.
This is why my growth is significantly less
than most other people's,
because I'm not about attention.
I'm about telling you guys where price is going
and to tell you to kind of like weed out the noise
I did play the nifty game though,
if it's okay if I like, I guess, speak on that a little bit.
Oh, you absolutely may speak on that.
Now, let me ask you a question before you go into it, sir.
Are you on the cap table?
I don't know who's getting paid
or who's not getting paid.
You have equity in the company.
I don't have anything in that company.
I don't even know who they were prior to Jonah.
Yeah, I didn't know who they were prior to Jonah.
I just, I'm in here looking at other people's stuff.
I like certain people in the space and,
oh, I actually like a lot of people in the space.
So I try to try out your guys' stuff
I don't feel it's fully fledged out.
Like I think there's still things that need to work on.
And I would say like the creation portion
It's hard to get a flat surface.
I'm just throwing out critiques, right?
Just throwing out critiques.
I did play the shooter portion on somebody else's island
because there's no in-house creating a whole like arena
That's just not going to happen.
I think they need something like that already pre-created.
The cost for some of the items is a little bit obscene.
And then in addition to that,
I did come in first place a couple rounds
Got my ass handed to me by a couple people
So like that portion was okay.
Like the rest of it though,
like there's so much that,
I hope it's still a work in progress, right?
Like, and that's not a shit on anything.
Like I'm not that type of guy.
Like I'm just, I think it can do stuff,
but like, I think there's so much more
That's all I really want to say on that.
I mean, you're pretty smart.
You got engineer background and stuff.
So I know you're a big brain.
Do you know anything about other side in that game?
Did you ever take a part of the demos or anything?
I didn't, but I'd like to.
No, I'll show you how to do it next month.
Maybe I'll lend you my ape to do it.
So from your standpoint, real quick,
from your just quick technical standpoint
and your experience real fast with using that,
why do you think something like this hasn't been created?
why do you think it hasn't caught hype yet?
Because it's basically trying to get you
There's nothing pre-created.
They're not going to create shit.
So like you have to ask some stuff.
I don't know, maybe they do.
Maybe they have plans for that.
Again, I'm not trying to shit on the game,
but like as of right now,
there's no content in my opinion.
Like if you want content, you have to create content
as in like create your stuff on your island
or go to somebody else's island,
which is not going to incentivize you
to go to somebody else's island.
if you look at it from an incentive standpoint,
it incentivizes everybody to stay on their own island
and try to attract people to their island,
which means that nobody's going to be on anybody's island.
At the end of the day, we're looking to make money.
I guess if you look at it from like an engineered standpoint,
it's smart, but it's not that smart, right?
I think that's kind of my comment on it.
Well, especially if there's like a total of 400 fucking players,
we're going to have like four people on each island, bro.
Scott, they had 800 people in their space.
Don't even, why are you trying to fuddy like that?
They're going to have more than 400 people playing, I'm sure.
Again, I'm not going to already-
I was able to fudge session earlier.
I had my fudge session earlier,
so I'm going to ask the audience again.
I have a couple of questions.
I have a couple of questions.
So what makes people play this past the token?
Why is there no volume on the guns or islands?
And why do, if I'm from web two,
why do I want to play with your IP from web three?
And how does it grab players from web two?
This is so much fudge, bro.
We'll get to that work, everybody.
5.30, welcome to the show.
We go live every day except Wednesday is 5 p.m. Eastern.
We have hash bastards here.
Quite honestly, the number one futter in web three.
You thought you had all types of people fudding.
No, no, no, no, this is the guy.
And if your project doesn't pass this guy,
you're not going to fucking make it.
So before we get into that,
before we get into these questions Scott just asked,
Liz, you had your hand up, you got the first take.
Go ahead, and then we'll get back to it.
BT, I was actually going to say as a non-gamer,
but obviously super involved in web three
and just trying to support.
I did try to log in before it gave me a hard time.
I still haven't successfully been able to play the game.
I'm just fighting them because I really wanted
But I can tell you that until today,
I still have successfully not been able to play.
Did you download it, Liz?
Like you had to download the pack.
It even says that like if the game client
doesn't automatically open install,
I did everything that I was supposed to do.
I still haven't been able to play it.
Yeah, I had some weird stuff kind of happen.
Like I had, I downloaded it and tried to log in like 10 times
and just completely close the browser out.
And then like, I don't know,
I don't remember what I did specifically to get it to work,
But figure that out, let me know so that I can play too
and let you guys know what I think of the game.
Yeah, I'll try and figure out what I did
to get that to work and I'll send that to you.
I did want to say one more thing
and then I'll leave it at that.
There was some hardcore lag on those servers
and I run like 2.5 gig internet.
So I shouldn't have any issues with lag.
And my computer's beef, trust me,
I spent probably about 10K and I built it myself.
So you can imagine how beef that is
if you build it yourself.
So yeah, I don't see why there was that much lag
So yeah, that's the other thing.
Hey, well, so my thing was, let me let the web2hunk,
you know, everyone knows, you know,
I managed Josh Petersdorf from Blizzard,
a lot of other cool people in the gaming space,
And they said, what the fuck are we doing?
Is this like that other side shit you had us play?
So it's funny how all these motherfuckers
funny other side web2persons thinks it's the same shit.
Like that, what are we doing is always the question.
What's the, who the fuck is this?
Where these IPs come from?
And I'm not saying it, it goes from web2,
but when I asked who's bullish on this,
everything they talked about is web3.
So how, again, what makes people play this past the token?
Why is there no volume on the stuff that was made already?
How does this grow players in web2
and make them fucking interested in anything to earth,
fill in the blank, blank to whatever earth?
well, let's say the Blizzard homies, right?
Why would they give a fuck about my penguin?
Or Prophet's mutant, or fucking shotgun, shotgun,
cause shotgun brought something up that was like,
you know, similar to this.
I said, shotgun, I love you little bro,
but I don't want to use your fucking being in a game.
And again, a lot of the younger players, right?
Like, like the people, my son's age, you know,
illness brought this up, you know, his doc,
the roadblocks gang, like they like to do all that shit.
They don't smoke woods all day.
They don't, they're not web3 all day having to, you know,
make the money and pay these house notes.
So yeah, like, and don't get me wrong.
Some of the older homies do like to do that.
Me as a parent, I need some,
I could just pause real quick, move,
get the hell out the way.
But that's me as an eighties baby gamer.
I don't like, I tried so hard to play for a,
like what's the one on switch?
Damn, I'm drawing a blank Animal Crossing.
And I played it for like, like hell of a time.
Then I said, bro, what the fuck are you doing?
Like, and not saying another game is more important,
but I was just like, bro, I'm done harvesting.
I'm done fucking, you know what I mean?
It was fun as shit, but go ahead Will.
Animal Crossing has way more mechanics than this game does.
I'm just gonna put it out there.
Like, there's a, again, I critique not to be an asshole,
not to shit on anybody's projects.
Like I'm just critiquing based off of what I saw.
Like I went in and played the game genuinely
I didn't do it at all to shit talk anything.
Like I know there's, and that's why I haven't commented
anything on Yuga, cause I haven't played their game.
I can't say anything if I haven't played it,
regardless of how it looks up front or not.
Maybe the mechanics are amazing and the visuals are crap.
And I'll take a game where the mechanics are amazing
and visuals are crap, although it's nice to have both.
Now the biggest thing, you know, overall that I saw is like,
you know, for somebody to make something really interesting
in there, in my opinion, you're gonna have to spend
a lot of money on your island to attract people to it.
And that will create like some kind of revolving revenue.
I think I get the model of what they're doing.
And I also think like when I looked on there
as far as assets, cause I logged in
from two different wallets.
I logged in from my wallet that has no assets
that I thought that it would use, which is, you know,
exactly the way I thought it was gonna go.
And then a wallet that I have a lot of assets on
that I try to hide from people more or less,
but I did, it's kind of like a ghost wallet,
but I logged in from that wallet
cause it does have assets that they do basically support.
And, you know, when you log in with the asset
that supports, you actually get benefits,
as if you log in with the one that doesn't,
And it's like how you're getting beta testers in round one.
Everybody should be rewarded,
not just the people with assets.
It sounds to me or it looks like to me,
like it's trying to attract people that are using
or have a lot of money versus trying to attract everybody
And you're gonna attract a bunch of whales,
but then there's gonna be nobody there, you know,
And then the whales are gonna get bored
because there's nobody to bully.
And because there's nobody to bully,
they're just gonna lead the game, you know?
And I say that in the nicest way I could say it,
like Diablo, for instance, right?
It had the free to plays and then it had the whales.
Well, because you had the free to plays,
the whales could run around and bully with their wallets.
You can't do that in this game,
in which case, why are you trying to attract them?
You should be trying to attract everybody
I guess that's kind of some, I think, thoughtful feedback.
If I'm wrong and somebody's in the audience
who knows what the model is,
please feel free to correct me.
But like, that's what I took from it.
Listen, welcome to the show if you're just getting here.
I'm not your favorite influencer.
I'm actually your least favorite person in web three
and you're not gonna admit it and it's fine.
And I know you're gonna fake like me and it's cool.
Totally fine, we could all hang out together.
You may not like everybody on this stage either.
Not just today, tomorrow, next week, yesterday.
I don't like a lot of you motherfuckers.
I go on stages I don't like,
just to get that thought off because it is what it is.
Y'all not gonna give a fuck.
I'm not gonna just stop going to spaces.
I'm just gonna stop hosting or get the fuck out of here.
But I will say a lot to dig in.
And yes, we fell for another hyped mint.
You got bullshit on the chain.
You got four M's raised, amazing.
What the fuck are you about to do with it?
He will promise a hyped event at NFT NYC
and then we'll say utility.
But what I do know, I'm gonna go to Cass
and then we're gonna continue
on this banger of a conversation.
We're gonna pass out some ETH
because you guys continue to support and I love it.
I didn't sell you anything.
I'm not asking you for shit.
I wanna ask each of you to send one ETH
for a new iPhone like Borovik did,
but I'm not gonna do that.
So, thank you for coming.
Hey, Prophet, remember when the dope dealer on Dave Chappelle?
Remember, Prophet, when Dave Chappelle's the dope dealer
That's what I always think about
when one of these founders gets to four million.
He's like, hey, I don't wanna ruin it for my 90s day.
If you've never looked up Dave Chappelle,
did Chappelle show him winning the lottery
as a crack dealer, as a dope dealer?
You will go, oh my God, bro.
This is everywhere, three founders.
He's like, wait, this is how I fucking feel.
Yeah, this is how I feel.
Hey, I will say, before I pass to Cass,
so you just talked spark to thought
and I'm gonna leave it like this.
Don't ask me questions, don't DM me.
Scott's probably gonna ask me a question
because he's gonna laugh, but it's true.
A lot of founders are off drugs now
and that's why a lot of their creativity
has been shocked and they're stagnant.
And I'll just leave it there.
I'm happy you guys are off drugs, though.
Finally another woman on the stage, thank you.
Oh my gosh, always cracking up at the one-liners.
Listen, I like this space for the honesty.
So first of all, like differentiating factor,
questions are not Fudders.
Good questions is not Fudd.
You deserve to listen to the answer
and teams should be allowed to have accountability
of the answers to good questions.
Totally different from Fudd.
And Fudd is not worthy if you haven't played the game.
So what Will is talking about is like,
look, I'm not commenting on things
I'm not involved in or playing.
That's important to know behind your favorite Fudder.
And also to see what bags they own,
that's another way to figure out your favorite Fudder.
They Fudd something that they have so much bags in
and then when it goes down, they buy low.
When it goes up, they sell high.
It was funny because VGF did this post that was like,
It was like, oh, NFTs are dead or it's so dead.
And then it went to we're so back.
And then it went to we're so dead.
It went to we're so back.
And I commented, I was like,
that is a marketers' favorite strategy.
Is like that type of volatility
is how they make their bags in between that spread.
And meanwhile, the builder is like,
I'm here, I'm still here, I'm still here.
And the marketers like, it's so dead, we're so back.
And they profit off of that.
So yeah, great points here.
On the beta tester topic,
a lot of people don't know beta testers
are data points for companies.
Like they highly use that to improve their product, right?
And so usually they'll do for gaming,
for other verticals, what have you,
you'll do an internal beta test
where you're testing out bugs as a company.
But then you'll open it up usually to like a small group,
And then they'll find more bugs
because that's a lot of volume.
But they'll also collect that data
as like hot points of which
they can see people want to do.
Hey, I hated this button or hey, it got jammed here.
Or like, yo, I love the fact that I could play to earn
or whatever people are gonna give you feedback.
That's data to the company, that's gold.
But for me, like, that's fine
as long as you are transparent that,
but transparent that you testing it
is what helps them build and fix things
and make more money off of your feedback.
So like, just understand these little background pieces
But time tells all too, because you know,
I don't mind if like teams make a ton of money
off of like hyping FOMO and beta testing,
but the time will tell me if they rugged
or if they're actually taking that feedback,
creating a better product and delivering.
So that's another thing I think Web3,
like everyone blinks and then their entitlement comes in.
Like, where's my perfectly done product?
And they don't realize it takes
a hell of a lot of time, money and skill to make games
and to make anything that's good.
And so like the last point that I'll say too
is I don't expect teams to be perfect.
I expect them to be transparent on the level they're on.
So if you're just starting and you're making a new game,
And then we can like decide as a consumer,
Do I wanna hold out, you know,
for you to improve and build?
Or are you saying you're making a AAA level game
but I haven't seen anything?
And off of that, I'm buying, you know, something
because you're like, this is gonna be amazing.
And now I bought it and now you just manipulated me
versus, hey, we're just getting started
or hey, we wanna do a stealth drop, but here's our team.
You know, so I think like the communication
is the part that lacks a lot in Web3
that makes people just completely gain bags and lose bags
because that communication is not transparent
where it needs to be transparent.
So yeah, that's my thoughts.
We definitely, we like thoughts
and we like Kanye's opinions
and we love people that don't search for podcasts.
I'm gonna give it to Will real quick.
We have the co-founder of Nifty Island actually joined us.
Appreciate you joining us.
Get, you know, just let you get comfy in your seat,
let it get warm and then I'll go right to you.
I'm pretty sure you're super busy.
And then I wanna go ahead and go to Charles, go ahead.
Yeah, no, I mean, definitely.
And if it's in its beta state, I don't think it's too bad.
It's just, please, for the love of God,
fix the editing of the land.
Like, and that's really wholeheartedly, you know, a comment.
Like that's not a bash at all.
Like I did, I 100%, I put in a couple hours in the game.
I just, I had to stop like developing my land on my island
because it was just difficult.
But outside of that, like the flat,
I don't know if there's a way to like flatten
I did like the ability to move the trees.
Ideally, it'd be good to pull four corners,
but you know, the three I get,
I get the reasoning behind that.
That's how a lot of game engines run.
Yeah, but overall, I would say it's very sandboxy.
I like the idea of island,
but I think like everybody in the island,
But yeah, I would be interested to see
or at least understand the, I guess,
the ultimate goal or idea of where this is going,
or if it's just going to remain these islands
that are just going to branch out,
or do they end up touching each other at some point
and create some kind of Pangea?
Like it would be cool to kind of know,
I guess the directionality of the project.
You don't have to lie either.
Was it my flooding title?
Is that what got you here?
oh, I didn't read the end of the title.
Honestly, I know that's kind of funny.
I like, someone would DM me.
I was like, oh, you should go into this space.
And I was like, all right, yeah, I'll do that.
And then I actually, I just saw web three exposed
and I was like, yep, cool.
And then I was like, there's a lot to expose.
And then I didn't read the end.
So actually now I'm seeing it.
Then what have I been spending all my time on?
But anyway, good to be here, good to be here.
Yeah, so yeah, I'm gonna talk about anything.
Honestly, we're just grinding on it.
I could talk about Will's question there.
Will, I'll just follow you and if you want to DM
and talk to me about the terraforming system
and what you like and don't like, we can get into it.
Let's get into it and see if we can fix it for you.
A lot of points, well, you have good points.
So hopefully it's a good feedback, as I was mentioning.
Yeah, I could talk about where it's gone.
Like kind of what we're trying to do with it over time?
And if you can't answer certain questions that I ask,
don't feel too hot seated
because I have some loaded questions for you.
But please go ahead and dive into what you guys plan.
Please, that'll be great.
I mean, I think I'm an open book.
I haven't been asked any questions yet
that have scared me too much.
So we'll see what yours are like.
But yeah, so in terms of where we're taking it,
really goal is to try to make a new type
of user-generated content game world.
So there's like Fortnite, Minecraft, Roblox.
We're trying to do something that feels really different
where anyone can make games
and anyone can make stuff that other people enjoy.
So when you look at Roblox or Fortnite Creative,
it's really a tiny number of people making stuff
and most people going and consuming it.
I think there's room to do something different
where every creator on Twitter, Twitch,
every NFT community all can build a space really easily.
And maybe we'll say we have a little work to do
on making it even easier, but it's relatively,
it's much easier relative to those other platforms right now
to just make a space that's fun to be in.
And then you can deploy games on it.
So there's gonna be a growing library of games
you can play on your island.
We have three main game genres right now.
You may see some cool like game offerings
with other brands and projects
offering token gated gaming experiences
on top of us in the future.
That's the kind of stuff I'm excited about.
I'm excited about in-game wagering on games of skill.
Kind of more financialized stuff,
which we all love here, right?
And yeah, so it's really, that's it.
It's open gaming platform.
All NFT projects can use it.
And yeah, we're trying to make it as fun as we can.
So unfortunately profits did not get the nifty check
like every other person spaces host currently.
Hey, no shade by the way, I love that.
You guys are doing your thing with the marketing.
That's how you're supposed to do it.
Cause I would love to give you more time,
but I just wanna get straight to the point
The marketing, the marketing play.
Let's just lay that hole on the table.
let's see how many people we can get to talk about it.
And that's it no matter the quality or whatever it is.
Cause everything you just said is respectfully,
I've heard you the last three and a half years
from many projects and nothing has come of it for real.
So yeah, that's what I wanna know.
The marketing plan, were you a part of it?
Let's see how many people can talk about it.
And then let's just launch whatever we have currently.
So what was the goal of the marketing plan?
So I definitely, I kind of made the marketing plan.
So definitely, definitely was involved in it.
Oh, so you're definitely the person to ask.
I mean, you know, you work on a game
cause we've been working on it for two and a half years.
And I'll guess I'll say too,
cause I totally get people have like skepticism
and there's lots of projects that have, you know,
messed up or done the wrong thing in the past
And I think like the approach we've taken
has been not doing any pre-sale of a token,
not selling tons of NFTs.
We never did a big like crazy mint or anything.
We just gave stuff out for free
and that's what we're doing now too.
So in the end, like the cool thing
about the way we're rolling this out
is if you for whatever reason are like Nifty Island
fabricated, you know, if you believe it is,
like you just get to play it for yourself.
And we're not asking to like, you know,
So we're really just like,
we're giving out stuff for free right now
to get people to play it.
And so that's the nice thing.
You can kind of verify for yourself,
but the marketing plan, yes.
So, you know, you make a game,
you spend two and a half years on it.
Scariest thing is what if no one tries it?
Hold on, hold on, slow down.
you sound like you're pacing.
Oh, sorry, I do, I paced.
You're good, I promise you we're good.
Don't worry, I can't do anything.
Yeah, you got a little dry mouth.
I will say this, hold on.
I will say this, you said two and a half years.
I don't want to glaze through that.
You said you've been working on this
for two and a half years.
So in the last two and a half years,
where were you hanging out and wept through?
Were you in the background?
Two and a half years, a lot of time.
Sorry, I've been gone pretty ham,
so I do, I'm a huge pacer.
Oh, no, I'm pacing now too.
I'm like, damn, is he getting nervous?
No, no, you're really not.
We're all good, we're all good.
No, no, no, that's just me.
So anyway, all right, what were we talking about?
No, so two years, two years.
Like what were you doing in the meantime?
Like two years, like that's a lot of time.
Yeah, so it's a huge lift,
trying to make like an open game world like this.
So if you think about making a game,
it's already a really high surface area product.
There's so many different ways a user can interact
with just even a pretty simple game.
And then when you have a game
where people can make their own content,
There's just tons and tons of work that goes into it.
So yeah, basically we've just been grinding on it,
you know, we've been building the game.
we've been working closely with a bunch of NFT projects
and their communities and saying,
hey, what do you actually want in a game?
Like what would a game look like
that you would actually play
and trying to make something that is really tailored
to the web three audience.
So yeah, basically just building the game.
So, and then we'll get to some of these hands.
They're going to be way sweeter than me.
I also have an eight, so I sound hangry.
In all due respect, right, you know,
founder to founder, right?
I'm a founder, I'm a creative founder.
No, but would you say that if you didn't, you know,
unleash the bag on all these creators
and all types of cartilage collabs that you have,
would you have the same amount of attention
for just the, cause let's be real,
games do really well when they're lit, right?
Marketing is important, don't get me wrong,
I'm big in marketing, that's what I love to do.
But if the game is dope as fuck and it's lit,
you don't really need to go crazy
with paying so many people to talk about it.
So I guess what I'm asking is if you didn't pay
so many people to talk about it in the last month,
would you say that it still would get the same attention?
So based off the game itself and what you created.
So so far I think people are really liking it,
but I will say on the like marketing, you know,
So we've gotten attention from a bunch of different sources
and some of them have been paid.
Like, let me think, we've been working with Pingu,
we did a little thing with some of the rug radio creators.
So there's a few we've worked with in that way.
but there's a lot of people where it's not the case.
So with all the NFT projects,
we don't pay them to talk about us.
They just are really excited to have-
I know that you didn't pay everybody,
but the ones that you did,
do you think that if you didn't give
those specific creators money to do what you,
you know, to do the little marketing for you,
that you would still get the same amount of attention on it
based off of what's been created,
I think we would still have a good deal of attention.
I bet it would be like a little less, right?
I hope that the spending money did something, right?
But yeah, so I think it'd be a little less,
but I do think the airdrops really viral in nature.
Like it encourages people to share.
So that was the, that's kind of the ace in our sleeve is,
you know, if we get, if we're like, hey, share a link,
like that works really well.
We've seen it a million times, right?
So yeah, I'd say a little less,
but we still have a good amount.
Oh man, how do I put my words into a question
that's not too rhetorical?
First of all, nothing, nothing in life is free.
So when you say, yeah, we didn't,
we're not charging you to play this game,
You are taking our data points and our minds.
I'm not saying this in a bad way.
I'm just making sure people understand
the translation of free here
and giving that feedback and getting that UGC,
that natural UGC besides the paid one, right?
People play it, they talk about it,
they share it, they repost it.
And so that gives a chance for you guys
to get visibility and to get, you know, money in,
to make profit off of it down the line
for all your different pieces of your roadmap of it.
And so I wouldn't say like,
I would just be careful, I guess,
around the word free when you incentivize it in a sentence.
But then my question is also,
if you worked on this for two and a half years,
why would you then ask the question,
hey, what do you guys actually wanna play?
If you were building it for years in the background,
to me, like it's more of a marketing type of thing
to be like, what do you wanna play?
I think some of those answers
have already been created, right?
Because it's like, it's not like you use this to fund
and now you're starting to build it
and now you're starting to make the game.
You've already made a lot of pieces of the game
and then people are gonna then, like I said,
I'm trying to differentiate the marketing side of,
what do you think is fun?
What do you think about this map, right?
And things that could be like, not clickbaity
because you really are asking those questions,
but for lack of a better term, clickbaity
for people to kind of jump in and actually participate.
So I think, yeah, that's kind of my thought process
why are you asking the question of what do you wanna do
if you've been building for so long in the background?
Yeah, so let me comment on it, I guess.
So I totally get the, you know, I get it.
The idea is we kind of started.
So when I said that, what do you wanna play?
We were asking people that through the whole
And as you build a product, you kind of start off
with like a decent answer to that question
where you're like, okay, I think people might like islands.
And then you're like, well, what do they wanna do on there?
And then you put it in front of people,
you learn a little bit more about kind of how that looks.
And over time, you arrive at something
that's like a very kind of clear answer to that question
of how do people wanna build islands?
What kind of games do they wanna play?
And so now we're at a point where we have
like decent answers to those questions.
And as the game rolls out, you're absolutely right.
And I would never say otherwise,
we are definitely trying to learn
about what people find fun for sure.
And so when I say the game's free,
I really just mean that some games
you have to pay like 60 bucks to play.
You know, you're like literally have to put your hand
For us, it just literally is that you can download it
So that's all I mean by that.
And we've been working on refining our answer
to what's fun for a web three audience over many years.
So it's not like we're just starting
to ask that question now.
We've been asking it since day one.
Hopefully that clarifies a little bit.
So I guess like follow up because it's not like you ask
all these questions to then altruistically
like create this free game for everyone
Like there has to be a way for you guys
to profit and sustain yourself.
So you can continue to build out this game,
build out any other games, right?
And so like for me, it's just the communication
between the consumer, the gamer and the product itself
because it's also a great catchy thing to be like
you don't even have to pay.
Some games are 60 bucks just to play.
We're giving you free access, right?
These are all incentives for people to come and play
and give feedback that sometimes you will use
and a lot of times you already know the answer to.
So it's part of marketing, more so a feedback loop, right?
So I guess that's just what I wanted to communicate clearly.
And then the last question is
as you are building this over time,
do you feel like what you're coming out with
is behind per se or similar to many other projects?
Cause as profits mentioned,
if you've been in this space for two, three, four years,
you hear a lot of the same things.
So like, did you feel like, man, I'm building this,
but I'm a little bit behind
or I have to kind of compete with these other similar games
or what is kind of your thought process
as you build with the space moving so fast
So that is always a tough thing
cause the space changes so much
and you want to make sure you're doing something
that actually will resonate for a long time.
So yeah, I think we kind of like focused
on a few specific things where I was kind of like,
okay, I really think this was,
we thought this in the bear market,
we thought it in the bull market.
NFT communities are really cool.
And these are going to be things
that'll be around for a long time.
So we built to try to say,
how can we make a game that makes it way more fun
to be in an NFT community,
where you can play as an avatar,
play games, win prizes, all that kind of stuff.
And when I looked out at other games,
I felt like most weren't doing this.
There are people who have tried,
there aren't too many places
where you can like play as your clone X
or play as your board A for your pudgy penguin
and compete for prizes and make stuff.
It felt like there are people trying to do it,
but I didn't see much that I really liked
So I was definitely worried
that someone would launch something
really awesome before us.
But right now I don't feel too worried about that.
And yeah, that's basically it.
Props, if I could jump in here real quick, I just...
Yeah, don't go easy on the guy either.
No, no, it's not even that.
I just want to kind of get like,
kind of tell you the vibe that I got from the game
versus go rough or go easy.
it kind of came off to me like Roblox mixed with Minecraft,
mixed with, I wouldn't really say Fortnite.
I would say more like a shooter.
I don't really know what shooter,
but it came across with a shooter.
The only thing I didn't like was the lag
because I would die sometimes
even though I'd be hiding behind the wall,
which didn't make any sense.
I would assume that's due to lag,
but yeah, I can see you guys have...
You guys have definitely worked on it, right?
You could see that if you play it.
You can definitely see you guys have worked on it.
The terraforming, I don't know if that's a thing, man.
Like, it's bam, it's bam, I'm just gonna be honest with you.
Williams, did this look like a two year game to you?
I'll set it, yeah, I mean like,
well, I don't know about where,
because I could probably go in and look at the assets
and see if they came from like Unity
or where they came from and so on and so forth,
but I didn't do all that.
so I just wanna be clear about that,
but I did look at it from the aspect
of I could see what they're trying to do.
They're trying to make it where you can do
And I get the whole bringing everybody's in FTs.
It's kind of like a meta-verse-y kind of type of play, right?
Like, and again, this is just what I was vibing from.
It's not saying that's what your guys' intentions
But I got all these different things in one
and there's just so many things colliding.
It's hard to figure out what you'd really wanna do.
Yeah, I mean, I would be, I'll tell you this, look,
I would be interested in seeing where this goes, right?
If you're interested in seeing where it goes,
and that's saying a lot for me.
That's saying a lot for me.
It doesn't mean I'm gonna play it every day.
I'm gonna play it beyond where I've already played it,
but I'm definitely gonna be watching and-
William, you're telling me every influencer on YouTuber
or YouTuber or gamer, Twitch streamer
that talks about a game, you're excited about it?
You told me you hate this game because of Jonah.
That's the only reason you knew about this game,
I didn't know shit about it before Jonah.
I'm not even gonna lie, bro.
I didn't come up here and say I did.
I didn't know anything about you guys before Jonah,
That marketing, those marketing dollars
I'm messing with you, I appreciate you.
Man, this is a tough crowd.
You guys want all the smoke today.
I'm actually bullish as fuck on what's happening here.
So the product development is a continuous thing.
It's not like a static thing.
you've been working on this for two years
and like, what have you been doing for two years?
I think that really just kind of demonstrates
on how real product development lifecycles work.
is that if you are building a good game or a good product,
you are always asking users what it is they want.
That's not like a static thing
that happened two years ago,
and then you stop, right?
So as far as I'm concerned,
or if you are dealing with a founder
that is not asking those questions continuously,
you got fucking problems, right?
So let's be really clear about that.
the gaming industry is dominated by data.
And so you have two options fundamentally.
You either pay for your shit,
or you let people like review your shit, right?
And so, I get a little bit perturbed
with this like woke kind of perspective on like,
oh, well, it's not really free
because you're asking for people's data.
Well, fuck yeah, we're asking for people's data.
How else do you think we're paying for this business, right?
So I think the data perspective
is really, really interesting.
You know, profits that that's like really
where I get really geeked.
And Charles, I think your name is, sorry.
Very curious in your perspective
that there's actually a really cool patent
or a set of patents at hand here
around the ability to essentially attribute data
and to be able to essentially drive different behaviors
or understand different behaviors.
And the reason that's important
is that it actually creates business.
It creates a business model outside of them
having to sell things to you
like a mint or a token or anything like that.
that are quite interested in those data sets,
And they're happily willing to pay for that.
Especially if you have integrity and attribution
You can prove that it's clean data
and you can prove because blockchain don't lie
that users are doing a certain thing, right?
And so I think it's very important
to have a good understanding
of what your revenue model is
when you're starting any company,
whether it's a game or otherwise.
And you fundamentally have two options.
You either charge people for it
or you charge somebody else for it, right?
But data at the end of the day
is the most valuable thing on the planet,
even more than gold, even more than Bitcoin.
Hot take, maybe, I don't know.
But data is what actually creates money.
So I think that's very important
that this whole business model
is structured around the data.
And then the last comment that I'll make
is really fundamentally that what I think is unique
is that it does allow for some personalization
and to be able to bring different communities in
and this, I think we'll call it
maybe like a metaverse-oriented environment.
And more importantly, to not require people
to essentially have to build their own assets
to ingest the fact that they're already native
in the game is really important, right?
Because it's gonna allow for better adoption.
I am not a paid influencer.
I'm actually not even a fucking influencer.
But yeah, I love bringing these influencers up on stage
and really asking them some tough questions, right?
Because I think the reality is that a lot of people
got opinions, but very few have actually shipped product,
And so you really have to understand
what is the business model here at the end of the day.
And I think just from my own perspective,
it seems like there's actually a pretty lucid understanding
of what that business model is.
And allowing people to personalize
and really draw an identity that is theirs from their PFPs
and bring that into game formats
is really valuable as far as I'm concerned.
So yeah, those are my general takes.
there's a lot of interesting things we can do
around monetization down the road.
One of the things I'm most excited about
is doing co-branded games with big NFT communities
where it's like imagine if there was a Pudgy Penguins game
and it was a fishing game
and there's some sort of wagering
or financialized thing around it.
And we did some cool offering around that.
That kind of stuff gets me really excited.
brands don't know how to talk to Web3.
It's actually really funny.
A lot of them will be like,
oh, we did an NFT, why didn't it work?
And so I think a lot of them are looking for people,
for partners where it's like,
we want to do something that will actually resonate.
Like what if we had a cool Adidas sword that's like an NFT?
I'm not saying that necessarily is the right idea,
I think there's a lot of fun stuff you can do there.
one thing I will say is we don't gather
personally identifying information.
It's email and wallet addresses, people connect.
So just, we'll throw that out there.
No, it's to track the behaviors at the end of the day, right?
And also like the monetization
doesn't necessarily have to mean that
you're selling data so that other brands
can come back and sell to this like micro audience
of whatever 5,000 people that are actually in Web3.
No, they're using this so that they can build models
so that they can go out and fish in a bigger pond, right?
Because we have a group of power users within Web3
that are more than happy clearly
to give their opinions on things.
And from a company standpoint,
that otherwise costs a lot of money
to go out and spend millions of dollars on company,
consumer research and such, right?
So it is a continuous process.
And most of the Web2 brands,
which obviously have a lot of experience
in dealing with Web3 and educating
and helping them understand the power of Web3 in context.
And at the end of the day,
what they wanna understand is how in the actual fuck
is there a group of people who will engage at 60%
when traditional marketing strategies
only gets you one to 10% conversion, right?
This is a group of power users
that have a very, very high affinity
for whatever it is they're doing.
And so what those brands wanna do
is they wanna build look alike models
and then they wanna go fishing in the bigger pond, right?
They wanna go say, hey, who looks like profits
that I could actually build a similar model around
to go out and drive my marketing strategy for
for better targeting or attribution or whatever that is.
So it's not necessarily like they wanna take
your information so they can just come
because frankly, like they're not gonna
like recover their costs on selling into a community
of even 10, 15,000 people.
They're gonna recover their costs
by getting 50 or 100 basis points of conversion
on a marketing campaign that touches 50 million people, right?
And the only way they can do that
is with better targeting models in AI.
So these are the data sets
that essentially train those models.
And at the end of the day,
like I mentioned earlier,
the data is the most valuable thing
in anything we're doing here in blockchain,
like make no mistake about it.
Like blockchain is not a front end product,
and the data is really what is driving the value here.
So if you're building a blockchain product in any sense,
make sure you have a good understanding
of what that data structure is.
And more importantly, how you're gonna monetize it
and appropriately disclose it to the users
so that they understand the data privacy
Everything, well like everything you said
just strengthens like the other pieces.
So maybe I didn't articulate it
in a way that kind of made sense to you
because like, as you mentioned, data is gold.
And so like collecting email addresses
and web3 wallets is super, super important
for finding like who actually has purchasing power.
If you look at consumer behavior,
that's how you dedicate your marketing, right?
And so you even mentioned yourself, Sandman,
like it's very expensive to have consumer research.
And this is why I say like when companies do things
like this and beta testing, it saves them a lot of money.
And so like, I want the consumer and the gamer and tester
to understand like the transparency
between that conversation.
I think it's fine to be a beta tester.
Like that helps the company,
but the gamer needs to understand
in what ways it helps the company.
And I think like Charles, you're a really great speaker.
Like you're really smooth in a sense where it's like,
you're like, well, you're gonna mention Pudgy Penguins.
Hey, you know, imagine Pudgy Penguins
has like a wagering aspect.
And the interesting thing is your game
So it's like, it's very smooth.
And I'm not saying this is like a good thing or a bad thing.
I'm just saying like the way certain people talk,
like there's a marketing aspect to it.
And you also said at the beginning,
yeah, you're the co-founder of Nifty Island,
but you also did the marketing.
So you're the right person
to ask these deep questions about marketing
because you formulated the marketing plan.
And I can hear it in the way you speak.
And like I said, it's not a good thing or a bad thing.
I hear how the subconscious pieces are working, but yeah.
And of course you're gonna be having testing all throughout
and it shouldn't be static,
when you find your target audience, right?
You ask, you do all the beta pieces, see what people like,
and then you can create and saying, okay,
more people, as you mentioned, Charles,
like it sounds like they really like the map piece.
It sounds like people are really enjoying
Like this should be an important piece.
And so that's when certain decisions are made
And that's the piece that's static.
But to leverage and continue to ask questions,
and I'm not saying you're doing this,
but to just make sure my point was clear before,
to leverage and ask questions
where you already have those pieces put together
It's using the experience of the gamers as a marketing.
How did you like our island?
Did you like this piece of the game?
But I just want gamers and users to understand
the difference between marketing
with the data that you've given them
because you're actually trying to build with that feedback.
He's a smooth operator, ladies and gentlemen.
If you're just tuning in,
we're having a great discussion actually.
Charles didn't have to pay one marketing dollar to me.
And you're getting this banger of a discussion.
But this is a good combo.
If you're just tuning in,
we're grilling the fuck out of Charles
and he's handling like a champ.
It's what we like to see.
Salami groped in this space.
Good conversations are great.
No, I just want to point out,
we keep on assuming how they're making money.
He hasn't actually come out and said it all how he's funded.
I feel like that's a conversation
that keeps getting drawn out
is that they're being funded through disinformation.
if you want to display that you can,
I'm not pressuring you to do so.
It's obviously your business,
well, I guess we'll find the limits of it
if you ask me something really personal.
I'm pretty much an open book
and I totally get where Cass is coming from.
And if you want to ask me questions,
In fact, people can feel free to DM too.
Hit me up and we'll chat more.
Check those DMs of yours, be honest.
These days, the past day has been pretty bad.
I do normally, but this has been a bad one.
This 24 hours, I'm like, over.
I was laying on the floor while listening
to that last one, I'm so tired.
So how are we gonna, how are we funded, et cetera?
So yeah, we raised a couple of years ago,
we raised 20 million to build the game.
And, you know, which sounds in some ways.
Wait, wait, wait, back the fuck up.
My boy said 20, two zero?
if you're in the crowd looking for funding,
those were simpler times, you know,
That's what I'm about to get into.
Because I know you feel like you won the lottery.
How do you feel now that you're going to market the game
You obviously raised at the best time, congratulations.
If you were gonna raise now
with the product you have now,
do you think you would have raised
the same way you raised two years ago?
Oh man, I mean, it was crazy back then.
Yeah, people were giving money out the wazoo
for just air at this point.
you think of the number of people who were raised then
and there's been nothing.
I mean, there are people who have raised
orders of magnitude more than us
and, or one order at least.
And they haven't shipped anything, right?
There's a lot of wild stuff out there.
People have raised far more than us
and not shipped the game at all.
So in some ways, 20 million is a lot.
In other ways, it's like games cost a ton of money to make.
So, you know, really relatively speaking,
it was actually a little crazy for us
to attempt this without more.
And so it has really been a ragtag group of people
like friends I've known from high school,
even middle school that worked on the game.
20 is a lot, but not in gaming world is what you're saying.
So we've done this on a pretty like shoestring budget,
to be honest, relative to what like many others would
Like shoestring or like sketch or shoestring?
I want to give us, I want to say we're like Adidas,
you know, I feel like, you know,
I'm going to give us that.
I'm going to say we're like Adidas.
But the, so basically now the games going out,
definitely thinking that obviously we need it to, you know,
be able to be sustainable.
And I'll tell you about the different ideas we've got there
and you guys can let me know
which ones you like or don't like.
One path I think could be really useful
is a sort of like Nifty Island premium,
where if you're like a brand or a really big creator
and you want like to be able to skip
manually, you want like 10 islands max size
and you want, you know, designated customer support.
There's some cool stuff we could do there
around offering something that feels really good.
And it would really allow us to be profitable,
I think pretty quickly, which would be great
if the game keeps growing.
And then other stuff, there's the UGC marketplace.
So that one, there'll be royalties on it
and fees on our side too.
I think about a 50-50 split creator and company.
And then the last thing is making cool games
that have new tokens tied to them like an NFT
where it's sort of like, boom, I bought this NFT.
Now I can play this new type of battle royale
on my island or whatever.
Maybe there's some wagering that's taxed too.
Those are kind of my top ideas for the business model.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking about.
So are you gonna go raise another round?
We don't need to quite yet,
but we've been having definitely some people have hit us up.
You know, just, this is how it goes.
You know, people kind of are like,
nah, when it's the bear market and you're building
and you're like, people are like,
I don't even know if that's a good idea.
And then, you know, when it pops off a little bit,
And so we've had some good people reaching out.
We're gonna see what happens, you know.
Part of me says we can, you know,
get this thing going without another round.
But at some point, could be good, could be good.
When you raised initially, well, rather,
when you had the idea to like, all right,
I wanna do a game and call it NFT Island,
was there other things that you saw that inspired you?
Did you see something and said, I wanna be better?
Like, that's what inspires me to create
when I see something or have a problem with something
or a gap, that's how I go about creating.
That's what I like to do.
So what I would love to know.
And if you got a few minutes, by the way,
I know you've been in for a minute
and I really appreciate that.
The whole crowd appreciates it.
But yeah, was there any inspiration?
Cause yeah, I just, I don't understand.
There's no game that's come out in two years.
Like NFT Island, Charles.
Right, right, right, right.
And I do think, I will say, you know,
they raised a lot more than us.
So I think they need some,
there's some tough questions to be asked there, you know.
Oh, shit, did I say that?
Hey, I played the game, sir.
It's good, it's good, it's good.
I'm just saying, you know,
we spent a lot less money than them so far.
Okay, so now I'm actually forgetting the question.
Wait, what was the question?
So like basically what inspired the raise
of the horror going into the game thing, you know?
Good, good, good, good, good.
He's delusional, let's take advantage of him.
Yeah, no, no, no, this is it.
Ask the tough questions now,
I won't be able to come up with something.
Okay, so yeah, what inspired it?
We actually started building well
before the other side was announced.
So we started when NFTs were just popping off
and my co-founder and I were like,
had been enjoying them, like trading some NFTs.
I'd bought a crypto punk and I thought it was really cool
and was kind of seeing how,
like there were all these deep,
cool communities forming around it.
And we just had this thought of like,
there has to be more to do with these
because right now it's kind of Twitter,
Discord and OpenSea and then it was Blur.
And then we thought there have to be other things
that you can bring these items into and do stuff with.
And so we thought games were a natural fit for that.
And then we basically hit the ground running
and that was more or less it.
In some weird way, I'm kind of inspired by like Uniswap
because it's this tool that gives all these ERC-20 tokens
like value, basically same with Coinbase and Binance.
And so on the gaming side,
I felt like gaming for web three should be more open.
It should be that all these NFT projects
don't need to build their own game.
They can use a game that exists
and eventually they can build their own stuff on top of it.
And it's a lot easier than making your own game from scratch.
So yeah, that was kind of the, that was the inspo.
That was, they also thought it'd be fun
and it has been kind of fun and also really difficult.
And it's awesome to meet you.
Call me whatever you want, Charles.
Let's do it, Prophets, let's do it.
No, but definitely appreciate you asking
or rather staying here, answering the questions.
Godspeed on your project and everything you're building.
Definitely looking forward to see it thrive.
I think from a marketing brain perspective,
this is my specialty, marketing and sales
has been my forte and background for like nine years.
Leading into web three, strategy, BD,
front end marketing, back end stuff.
I think this is one of the well thought out
marketing campaigns, even though it wasn't the most,
and this is not a this, by the way,
but it wasn't really creative.
You didn't do anything creative.
And a lot of founders should take notes.
He just knew what people with good platforms to go to
so they can be, because I'm gonna be real.
The only reason I ever paid attention
was because of like pingu space, for example.
Same way we all get exposed to stuff, right?
So good marketing dollars spent,
well spent there as well.
But no, from that aspect, fucking nailed it.
I love it, I love it, I love it.
And I'm just excited to see
how you continue to roll things out.
Feel free to DM or hit me up if you ever have any insight
We're mutuals, we're mutuals.
We're gonna take this, we're gonna keep talking.
This has been fun, Kuss, thank you for the questions.
Will, we're gonna fix the terraforming system.
Now I'm gonna go do that, we'll get it going.
Thanks for having me, and y'all have a great evening.
Absolutely, man, thank you so much.
What a fucking, wow, hash, you've been quiet as fuck.
I know it's been a long day.
A lot of people hate you, a lot of people are hating me
for having this space that you're here.
I will say though, I don't like a lot of people
At first, I didn't like you.
You group me up with a group of people and I get it.
I was around a shitty group of people.
And then you realize, all right, she's not that bad.
So whatever, it is what it is.
You've fought a lot of shit though.
You say a lot of wild shit.
First take on the crypto undeads
and did we get, once again, finesse into a hype mint?
Well, I mean, that's like,
asking if a bear shit's in the woods, of course it does.
I'm not really as concerned about the mint itself.
The funniest thing I've seen so far
is all the Nakamigos holders saying
that the art looks so similar to theirs.
But if you guys look up like a project called Poser's NFT,
you know, on OpenSea or fucking whatever
your favorite platform is, Marketplace is,
you'll see that Poser's NFT was minted
Nakamigos was on March 2023.
And if you look at the comparison between Poser's
and Nakamigos, it's a pixel by pixel ripoff.
And then if you compare, you know,
these crypto undeads from Solana,
which, you know, I wouldn't buy that shit anyway,
at least it looks like a different project,
but the comparison is not there
compared to what the fuck Nakamigos stole.
So also, profits, listen,
I asked Scott if it was okay to cuss up here
So if it's not, it's his fault.
No, you're good, go ahead.
Yeah, okay, so it's looking like, yeah,
but I mean, what the fuck isn't at this point?
My favorite example is DeGods.
I think that is the most overhyped project,
probably besides the Zuki.
And I'll even give a Zuki a little bit
of fucking benefit of the doubt
because they actually have done some things,
even though that, you know,
they're better at diluting their shit
than a fucking scientist is, you know,
putting shit in a test tube,
whatever the fuck they do in experiments.
they're probably the best case study possible
in what not to do with a project.
You can compliment their marketing
and say like, yeah, they, you know,
they played the game well
and they hyped well at the right time,
but I mean, I think if Cass,
I've never met Cass before,
but Cass definitely knows
what the fuck she's talking about.
I would love to hear what she thinks about DeGods
especially after the season three announcement
because I think like my favorite three
outside of everything that 4-H does profits, I'm sorry.
Nah, man, I'm not one of those cycle.
I love my mutant, my mutant is me.
I'm the most expensive thing
because it is mutant and I'm the mutant,
I know, and I was gonna say, you know,
I know you're excited for Dookie Dash two.
You were one of the goats.
You were one of the greats at Dookie Dash one.
You're gonna come back and hold your crown down, I know.
But yeah, my three favorite like NFT project fuck ups
of like, okay, you guys have no idea
what the fuck you're doing.
After beans, I'll take beans.
But Elementals, such a big fuck up.
That is such a Zagabond thing to do.
And then my favorite thing about that entire situation
was when, okay, you know what?
We're gonna listen to the community.
How much you guys vote on how we change the backgrounds?
DeGods, the entire project has been a fucking disaster.
As soon as they migrated from Seoul,
as soon as they go over to ETH,
and then their other sub collection goes to Polygon,
and then Solana starts absolutely fucking ripping face
while like ETH starts fucking, you know,
it's staying exactly the same.
And then you're like, wow,
if DeGods just stayed on Solana instead of bridging
all over the fucking every blockchain possible,
they'd probably be in better shape.
My favorite thing ever, by the way, was I was like,
okay, I know for a fact that Frank is gonna call this shit
He's gonna bring all of these fucking NFTs
back from ETH and Polygon back to fucking Solana.
And I swear to God, prophets, I swear to God,
I'll go back and I'll find the tweet.
hey, what if we wanna migrate our shit back to Solana?
He was like, yeah, we'll do that.
And I was like, oh shit, let's fucking go.
And then my third favorite NFT fuck up is Nakamigos.
They should have never done cloaks.
That was just so fucking stupid,
especially when they were like implying
that a video game was gonna be involved.
This is out there implying that Lava Labs
is like involved with this project,
out there implying that Ugo Labs
might be involved with this project.
And then after that, they, you know,
they make some fucking money, you know?
Let's get some more cash.
Then they're silent on Twitter for three months.
No tweets for three months.
All these stupid little holders are over there
You know Anon's your favorite holder.
All right, I'll say this about Anon, okay?
I respect somebody who was willing to come on to spaces
And here's the thing, you guys, okay?
I think, if anybody, you know, I'm, listen,
I'm like a delusion fucking detector, okay?
It's like a metal detector,
except I pick up on delusion.
And if you're selling me some fucking stupid shit,
I'm gonna say, hey, hey, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, okay.
If I were to take you out of your little,
sad little echo chamber right now, all right,
I've had to do this to a kid called Beast Holders 2
They've even gotten fucking railed by their own holders.
Their own holders had to admit that I was right
about all the fucking evidence I found
on the fucking blockchain months before
that they were buying out their own project
and they had to fucking burn one of their founders
But Nakamigos, that poor little guy, Anon,
was like, listen, they just, you know,
you were ragging on them,
they had been tweeting for three months
and then they came out this baller announcement
and it's crypto trading cards.
it's gonna be just a third fucking class.
First of all, there's a larval labs connection.
you just have to look at all the fucking evidence.
I was like, okay, flat earther, show me.
And then, all right, I swear to God,
they were like, it might be the video game.
And I was like, oh, then profit, profit.
This is my favorite quote, okay?
This is my favorite quote.
you do this probably better than anybody.
You set these little traps for people, you know?
You already know what the answer is
but you gotta walk them into it yourself.
You don't wanna say it, you want them to say it.
Nakamigos, their whole thing is like,
listen, we got this fucking crypto punks connection, all right?
The founders of crypto punks
might be the founders of Nakamigos.
Couldn't, you know, they said it wasn't,
but it could be, it could be.
what you have to understand is
there's a lot of similarities
and the art is really based on crypto punks
it's technically pixel perfect, you know?
And there's nothing out of place.
And there's only one flaw in the Nakamigos art
and it's the exact same flaw in the crypto punks,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
There's like all these stupid fucking connections.
It's like, okay, that's sweet, that's sweet, that's sweet.
So also you think that Nakamigos
is like gonna be the project that on boards
he's like, oh, absolutely.
It's gonna have a much better time
onboarding people to web three than crypto punks,
The biggest project of all time ever.
The one that Gary Vee, you know, pumped to Logan Paul
and FaZe Banks and create the fucking bull market.
It has historical significance actually.
Yeah, so they claim, you know,
it's gonna, it's gonna onboard much more people
Because they have traits like sports jerseys and scrubs.
And that will appeal to a broader audience, okay?
So all said and done like board apes, okay.
There's, you know, listen,
nobody has dethroned them yet.
Pudgy Pang was just trying.
I got respect for three projects after 2023.
Pudgy Pang was number one.
All right, they did some crazy shit.
I see a little dumb shit, okay.
Whatever, you were right.
All right, Doodles, I respect you, okay.
I'm not gonna wear those Crocs, but I respect you.
And then cool cats, sweet flow.
There are three projects.
By the way, Doodles is in Shibuya, okay.
Those three projects, you can tell
the founders know what they're doing, okay.
All right, that's, fuck, that's the proof, okay.
Anybody that is like, I like alien friends.
I like a kid called Beast.
When there are like actual options out here
where the founders are, you know who they are,
you know who the artists are.
You know what the fucking plan is.
There's real fucking utility.
Does anybody in here fucking follow David Horvat?
It's all the alpha you'll ever need.
You can read his fucking newsletter.
Don't fucking thumbs down me, Brit.
On Substack, he's got a great newsletter.
He's the creator of Ugly Dolls, you know.
And he, it's a character brand, right?
Which is what a lot of these NFT projects are trying to do.
And he's done it for 20 years.
His competitors are Hello Kitty and Pokemon, right?
Like he's in the plush game.
And he spits all this fucking free alpha all the time
about creating a character in an IP brand.
And he has all these fucking articles
that are fantastic about if I own Doodles,
you know, if I own this project,
I own this project where he's taking all of his knowledge
and applying it and saying,
this is the best way to run this fucking project.
Everybody in the fucking space
should be reading David Horvat.
And what David Horvat describes
that probably applies best to what Pudgy Penguins
has been able to achieve through their Walmart drops
is when he goes on play plan.
The play plan is what engages consumers beyond the purchase.
So in Pudgy penguins circumstance, right?
You purchase the physical item in Walmart,
then you can scan the physical item
and it brings you to an online experience
that is then further customizable.
That is a play plan that not only engages younger audiences
which is usually when, you know,
what these are applied to in sales and shit like that.
But this is what NFT projects need to be thinking about.
And this play plan, quote unquote,
that's what these dumb ass fucking NFTs mean by utility.
It's like shit that these NFTs can do.
It's tokens connected to physical items.
It's not that fucking hard.
None of this shit is that complicated.
I mean, it's fucking founders who've made way too much money
who are surrounded by a bunch of fucking yes men
who hired terrible fucking advisors
who have just fucking project hopped for three fucking years
telling every single project the exact same fucking thing.
No wonder everybody's in the exact same fucking spot
and 99% of fucking products fail.
It's because nobody does anything different.
And everybody wants to bitch at me for pointing it out.
Fuck you guys, suck my balls.
And I can't fucking mute you, but hold on.
A lot of people are like, I don't know,
like you got a problem, man.
Take it up with your mother.
Because especially if you don't even support the show ever,
I literally, I don't give a fuck
if anybody ever admits this.
I am the reason we embrace a diversity in web three.
Clip this shit up, make fun of it, whatever the fuck.
Because this is why, this is important.
Everybody gatekeeps their stage, whatever, I get it.
I gatekeep my stage from known grifters.
I will forever leave you in the request.
Unless your name is books,
you can request so I can grill you up here,
because I know you're never gonna do that.
But aside from that, no known grifter
will ever be allowed to come to this motherfucking stage.
If I know, like, come on, that's stupid.
Why would I let you chill here?
That's why they all hang out together.
It's like a little block, it's like a click.
All you guys can go and go,
where the fuck you can really go, for real,
Anyway, you got a problem with hash.
You got a problem with hash.
You don't got a problem with me.
You don't got a problem with Web3 Exposed?
Like I said, take this up with your mother,
go to Yelp.com backslash, kiss my ass.
Two, I do wanna hear from you.
You're my favorite person in Web3.
Yeah, keep throwing up that fucking heart emoji, bro.
You're one of the most pretentious
flooding motherfuckers there is.
I remember you even flooded Web3 Exposed.
You just thrive off that shit.
You're so fucking pretentious, bro.
And you just, you're a fair weather fan, bro.
You're a fair weather fan.
When shit does good, you fucking give it flowers.
When everything else is like doing bad
for the time being, you flood the fuck out of it, bro.
You're full of shit, bro.
Stop fucking being a fair weather fan, bro.
You're just fucking laughing up here.
I don't even know why the fuck she let you up.
You should have kept your ass in fucking requests,
but profits is a bill different than I am.
I'm a little bit more of a go fuck yourself energy.
So yeah, you ain't on shit, bro.
So stop acting all up like that.
Dude, I would love to have you on Good Morning.
By the way, profits, she got out of a bad situation
and she's on her own now.
Her co-host before her solo debut,
which she always should have been doing, right?
If you want to speak about nuance
and try to use profits as an example,
I'd never have said anything negative about profits.
What I said about Web3 Exposed was,
yeah, the other fucking hosts are pieces of shit.
Profits is a real M-effort.
I'm like you, M-effort, bitch.
Yeah, fair weather fan, bro.
I know you want to get responding.
You guys don't have to fake like each other
or fake respond, whatever.
Also, the Nakamigos are just down bad.
You guys keep fucking up.
The fuck is up with the fucking new collection
that you guys just dropped?
I know that's your clique.
I know I'm cool with air shit,
but who are you motherfuckers?
I like you motherfuckers.
Besides A-9, that motherfucker's not cool.
Something's wrong with that motherfucker.
Man, you know I miss you, too, man.
It's fireworks and this motherfucker.
I do got a few things to say.
I've been just hella busy
just doing a whole lot of shit in real life.
But I'm staying in tune with what's happening.
I think I said this a long time ago.
All these motherfuckers jumping into the shit coins,
When I hear nobody complain, I said it.
I said it here on the stage.
I said, y'all motherfuckers, go head first.
Jumping into these meme coins five months later.
Oh my God, I can't believe this people is rugged.
It's a fucking, it's called suckadick.com.
It's called, they be coming out with some names
that is like, you got to be kidding me, bro.
Like you can't be seriously believe
that this is something serious.
all the same scammers from E,
moved to Solana and is deploying coins
like it's 1995 and there's no condoms at a concert.
So then everybody want a motherfucker
I always say, you know, I speak my mind.
I got my personal reasons for it.
I'm very clear and I made it clear personally
and personally to everybody that's involved
that I was able to get in contact with.
Now, listen, people be like,
it just be bandwagoners, bro.
Like I keep hearing the fud
and then the community got to step in
and it's always fud, but oh my God,
if this project fall, everybody gonna fall
to when they see something else, a new shot.
Y'all motherfuckers, a lot of y'all motherfuckers
act like that little gremlin on Lord of the Ring.
I know y'all nerds, precious.
For every time they see a new shiny object,
They go dust up, they fucking knee pads
so they can go suck some dick
on whoever the fuck is shining.
Like for real, it's like motherfuckers
is just cheerleaders, fans.
Like they got fan behavior.
Like yo, if somebody do something incredible,
they either gonna hate, profit is yes.
I wanna agree with you on one thing.
When I first came into this space,
there was really no people with no diversity on the stages.
They can't say that you was the only one motherfucker
in here, that they had different people
from different backgrounds, different races,
different communities, whether you like the community
or not, you know, man, I can stand this motherfuckers.
But it'd be for personal reasons
because you don't like somebody in the community,
but you gave people a chance to speak
It's amazing what y'all doing.
Tired, I'm tired of people complaining on the timeline.
Y'all act like bitches, it's 2024, man.
It's 2020, it's a new year, man.
Ain't you tired of watching live fast in your vibe, man,
while you're sitting on your mama couch?
You know what I mean, ain't you tired?
I understand, go get you some pussy, man.
I know y'all nerds, it's 2024,
a lot of y'all motherfuckers still virgins,
a lot of y'all motherfuckers still talking shit.
It's always something, like in this space,
it's always something because people is so down bad.
If they see somebody do something positive,
they wanna talk shit, if they did something.
If they see somebody do something that they can't do,
oh, but I don't like this, like, yo, just relax.
We're here, we are all here together.
We are not all going to make it,
a lot of the people here still here,
there was building doing the bear,
there was here talking shit.
We was vibing, talking shit, moving around,
trying to figure it out, bored in the motherfucker.
There's some money in the market.
Please act your wage, for one, act your wage.
For two, do not allow the little bitty ass money
y'all getting on these mean coins,
give you some courage, and it's like liquor courage.
And don't let it bring you confidence.
You should have been confident since day one
if you was building something.
When you building something,
it doesn't fucking matter if you have money behind you,
that's the confidence from the project.
Shout out to the Pudgy Penguin, they doing a thing.
They doing a fucking thing.
It's okay, why they fucking, it's always like fuck,
they doing it, this motherfuckers are Walmart,
the apes, they doing a thing.
It's the communities doing a thing.
Like, it's going to be different aspects.
We need all these type of people, man.
But let's not do the same shit that we did last year, man.
Jumping into these echo chambers, again,
like bandwagon hate, like it's an echo chamber,
Like people leave because it's like,
that shit be so irritated.
But good fucking show profits, I appreciate you.
Scott, my motherfucking partner, Thumbs Up.
Will, I'm gonna be on your DM because I've been trading.
So I know y'all motherfuckers be, you know,
So you're trading stories on Instagram?
Oh, you're hilarious, by the way.
I love that you're learning too.
I love it, love it, love it.
And it's surprising, like for me,
it's normal people on Instagram,
and it's like, I got to learn.
People are like, bro, you're crazy.
I say, I have to learn my way.
That's the only way that's gonna,
like I learned, I've learned something,
I practiced it, then I start talking about it.
Then I start explaining what I learned
to somebody that don't know it,
and then that sticks with me.
Then I'm like, right now,
I'm just trying to find my way, finding, you know,
Like to me, it's fun to see, this is cool.
You know, I've been, I've been, I've been winning.
Yeah, I mean, if I get rekt, I get rekt, but-
I'm getting six on two pins, bro, driving around.
Six gonna have like, we're gonna get six,
That boy, six is gonna be the number one token holder
of all the, all the shit, bro.
Man, listen, I'm in every fucking community.
I got a ape, I got a deaf fella.
World of women, even though I don't feel
like they want me in the community,
I'm always gonna say that for real.
It's just very non-inclusive.
Shit, do those fucking goddamn Nike shit, man.
I'm in every fucking community.
Somebody drop a fucking NFT, I grab it.
It depends, do I see the value?
Yes, it is, whether I wanna vibe with the community,
whether I see something that in the future might come,
it's just here, that's just part of my journey.
So if everybody just focus on their journey
and start being some bitter,
like y'all some bitter butt faces,
that's what we call bitter butt faces.
Like your face look like ass, just talking shit.
Your lips is just like ass,
just running your motherfucking mouth.
Quit running your motherfucking mouth,
get you some motherfucking money,
be happy, enjoy fucking life,
go touch some grass, touch some ass.
Like, hey, do something, liquidate some ass.
Yes, I mean, ass it, you know what I'm talking about.
That ass, I really missed the sixth fucking rant.
Now I got a cap, now I got a cap.
Nice to hear from your brother, keep it up,
I'm about to see you in the motherfucking gym,
still putting the pictures on Instagram, you know what I mean?
Yeah, I see you in the sweat,
tripping down the motherfucking stomachs.
This is the problem with Instagram.
Your close friend for what?
Because you're gonna just tell everybody, that's what.
Ah, that's why I got it, I got it.
Subscribe, subscribe only, y'all get a subscribe,
subscribe only, y'all get a subscribe, that's stupid.
Yo, hold on, I was gonna say something.
Fuck, what was I gonna say?
First of all, Hash, this motherfucker said,
Macy aside, that's crazy as fuck, Macy aside is crazy.
Anyway, Hugh Hefner, I mean, sorry,
Jew Hefner, but you look like you changed your name.
I think you're trying to be more political.
I know you're on the outside.
Yo, the vibe is right, you know what I'm saying?
And I had to put the smooth operator type shit on.
But yo, I wanted to ask that motherfucker
that was up here for Nifty Island
cause for fucking two days,
I can't even play the fucking game.
I'm gonna go on my sixth rant right now
cause he got me motherfucking hyped
and I'm feeling 5% Busta Rhymes too.
What, hoo-ha, I got your all in motherfucking check.
But where the fuck is that dude, Charlie?
He like Charlie out in Vietnam,
hiding in the motherfucking jungle.
I ain't even got kids and they're fucking pissed.
Like what the fuck, Charlie?
Think I ain't, bring Charlie back on stage.
That motherfucker, he was like talking so fast.
I thought that motherfucker was like,
I don't know, running a 440
while he was trying to get his shit across.
and he just said it eight million times.
I bet you that motherfucker probably was standing
in front of a fucking mirror for 10 days,
trying to figure that shit out.
And then he's like, I got this shit.
And that's why he was out of breath.
With every fucking got better.
I wish you chimed in motherfucker.
I wanted to fucking chime in.
Nah, half an hour ain't lying, bruh.
Hey, it's happening before you come sometimes.
People come with their chest out on the show.
And all of a sudden you get a little bit of
jitter juice in your cup.
And all of a sudden you get that little white crust
And then all of a sudden you're saying
you talk like that all the time.
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
You are not going after these type of visuals right now.
Welcome to Web 3 Exposed.
We go live every day except Wednesdays 5 p.m. Eastern.
You're not walking with the best Twitter spaces host
you're ever gonna encounter.
You go to a lot of rooms and they suck.
We're here and we're thriving
and we're here to make you feel good.
Go to your mother or your girl for that.
Empress, nice to see you.
I know you've been here for a minute
And I'm not affiliated, but just so you know.
You Charlie's brought some?
Anyway, I just came up like hash and toot
got me fired off a little bit.
You know, like the fair weather thing
and six even a little bit.
You know, like people say don't talk your shit.
How about you talk your shit
but do it to people's faces and do it on the timeline
and don't do it in back channels.
I think that that would be a new meta for this.
That would be in a bunch of punk bitches.
But hash, we got to work on your approach bro
because you're always like five inches from the right
because you're trying to make your point valid
instead of just sticking to the actual facts.
Like if you stuck to the facts of the shit that you talk
then you would make a whole lot more sense.
Like what you just blew up with a kid called Beast
that partner literally did fuck shit up.
And all of that is like on the timeline.
You know what I'm saying?
I talked to Raspy during the entire thing.
I know all of the details.
He was not innocent because he was ignorant
and ignorance is no excuse of the law, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But you know what, this is the wild, wild rest bro.
You still get arrested if you break that law.
I understand that, but we're all growing
And here's my final note.
We're learning properly bro.
And then we go to the other,
I'm already getting DMs too.
It looks like I got any security.
I'm over here being Hefner security.
I need Twitter spaces security.
Bitcoin man, not BitBoy or Bitcoin man.
We'll hear from you in a second.
Cass would love to hear from you.
I was cracking up like all in the background.
I'm so glad we have the laughing emoji.
Like that's like the best feeling
is when we can use that emoji,
but good hot takes, but I agree too.
I think sometimes people are really smart and passionate,
but articulation is a problem area.
And so the PR part kind of falls apart
when you have great facts and great points.
So maybe we got to practice in the mirror fam
So yeah, I just wanted to say great spaces,
Sorry, first time meeting hash bastards.
I feel you on the play plan of pudgies.
I think though, what could have improved there
was to not have their community by all the plushies
that helps onboard the new people.
Great plan, get the plushie out there.
Great plan, have the piece to scan it
and take you to an experience,
but not if all your holders buy it.
So I think there could have been a little bit
better leadership on just that final point
because the idea was great.
Execution to get it to Walmart was great,
but execution of actually spreading out that IP.
Yeah, your holders bought everything.
So that's probably the piece I would say
they could have improved on.
So cool to have like the founder of Nifty Island up here.
Thanks Prophet for letting me grill with my questions.
Thanks Will for giving us your honest opinions
And yeah, I hope you guys remain respectful
or at least a good sense of humor
because I was laughing here too.
Yo, I'm not going to front.
And these are all the homies by the way
that I'm about to shit on.
But Nifty Island got a free AMA
and none of the people he's paid
has asked him remotely half of the amount of good questions.
But this is what we do about the new story.
If you do want to sponsor the show,
if you do want to take a part of a good cause,
hit us up, you know, we don't bite.
Hit us up, we love it, we love it.
We also like to talk about actual products.
So if you have a rug that you want to just think
that you're going to come.
No shot, kiss my ass, not that.
But if you got some good shit you're doing,
that's what I want to hear from.
That sounds, I felt mad cringy.
Like three years of spaces, that still feels weird to say.
But I mean, listen, quality is quality,
BC, what's the vibes, Mr. Beast?
I said the Bitcoin man, cause he's not Bitcoin boy.
BitBoy AKA Mr. Beast coming at y'all.
What's going on in this freaking space?
Y'all just wiling up, talking all that shit.
So I figure I'm going to talk some shit too.
99.9% of these NFT projects is straight trash,
garbage pure speculation.
Where's the goddamn utility, folks?
You know what I'm saying?
Like what, you're just buying like little JPEGs.
Like what the fuck, y'all?
Like if there's money to be made, I get it.
But like, you just make your money and then like,
try not to push it too hard on people.
Cause like, you know, once this stuff is fucking waste.
Yeah, that's all I want to say.
Keep, keep fucking crushing it.
I fucking, I want more spaces like this.
None of that fucking bullshit.
Oh, that's what we like to hear and see.
I'll let you know, there's some juggernauts
You're going to see more of, of, of good content.
We, we want to, we're bullish on good content.
I will save Twitter spaces.
If it means I'm doing it by my fucking doubt.
Yo, GM, this is a dope space.
I straight up like came in, you know,
cause represent and help the fam here.
You know, undead straight up hot take it's shit.
I have no reason, like really, like, are you kidding me?
You know, it's like, it's not even like,
it's not even great pixel art in my opinion, you know?
And I think that they would have done-
Girl, Mason in the crowd or he really,
yeah, Mason's in the crowd.
Genuine undeads are we, are we high?
Like why aren't those trading at, what the fuck?
Don't get me fucking robbed up again.
Again, you know, art's subjective, right?
So whatever, roast me or-
I don't care, fuck it, you know?
But like at the end of the day,
I just appreciate you putting on this space
and it's a hell of a space.
I, you know, resonate a lot with you
getting rid of your old co-hosts.
You know, I think that was a huge, huge step forward
and whatnot and yeah, dude, just here hanging,
supporting them and listen to some of these awesome hot takes.
Dude, I was, you know, I don't know you,
but you sound fair weather as fuck.
Totally, dude, a hundred percent, you got it.
Nah, I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding.
Dude, promise, okay, I'm just saying, all right?
Sounds pretty fair weather, right?
Also, okay, for the record,
if everybody just wants to read my fucking username,
it's Hash Bastard, not Hash Gentlemen.
And let me be honest, okay?
I would rather be impolite, all right,
than fucking rugged motherfuckers and grifting
and fucking cash grabbing, all right?
So I don't care about it,
I need to just fucking motherfucking-
I need to be more polite,
use your fucking rational inside voice
What the fuck do you think all these delusional ass
bag holding bitches are doing all the time life?
Aye, nah, you unblocked me
because you can't get enough of me.
You can't get enough of me, you sick fuck.
This idiot says 47 seconds ago,
to promote DeFi Apes through her show.
She likes to call me out for mine constantly.
Bro, you are the epitome of a piece of shit in web three.
we were arts academy, whatever the fuck you used to promote,
we were bullish on Tyler,
then you just went off the wall.
I don't know if you just stopped going to therapy,
I don't know if the money you got from Dakota
wasn't used properly and you got mad,
like you just went off the fucking hinges.
So you wanna talk tough on Twitter, fine.
When I see you again at another IRL event
and you run the fuck away like you did in Vegas
I promise you, I fucking promise you I will make you cry.
I will absolutely make you fucking cry.
Take that how the fuck you wanna take it.
God, you just two, three, four fucking years in this space,
people spend so much, suck a dick, suck a dick.
Seriously, nobody fucking likes you.
We tried, we really fucking tried.
Uranus, stick that shit in your ass,
stick your thumb in your ass, stop tweeting,
put the thumb somewhere else, six, go ahead.
Whenever the fucking button works, go ahead.
I gotta be the voice of reason.
I'm always wild in a motherfucker.
I did wanna say something,
let me see, somebody just came up here saying,
I understand that message get lost sometimes
or people articulate things a little bit different
or talk a little bit different,
but that's okay, this is just the app, it's fucking Twitter.
People can talk, like people need to relax.
This is not the corporate room at Microsoft.
That's for one, all right, for two.
Prophets, I think the problem is,
Aynan loves you, he in love with you.
When a man loves a woman, you do crazy things.
That's all I wanted to say.
I just feel like he infatuated with,
I remember when he used to come in the show early days
and he was cool, everybody was bullish on him.
I don't know what happened, I don't know what's going on.
My name Bennett, I ain't in it,
but it sounds to me like the kid at the playground,
they tripped the girl because he likes her.
Aye, I'm just saying, it might be that.
We might be looking into that.
Subscribe to Prophets channel, Aynan, go ahead, my bad.
Back to the studio, Prophets.
is that it doesn't work for people like me, Scott, Will,
anybody on this stage, probably this room.
First of all, a lot of y'all learned the word
gaslighting in web three, that's for one.
Number two, this gaslighting shit only works
for people that don't really know how to first read a chain.
Or number two, actually have been around to know
the ins and outs of certain individuals.
Like, I'm not the type to air out receipts or none of that.
I will never do that, I'm not a hoe.
I don't give a fuck how much of a bitch Aynan is
and how much of a, he deserves for me to air out shit.
He really deserves for me to air out everything
that I have, same with Scott.
But we won't ever do that, because we don't need to do that.
So when you say shit, like should we pull up
ether scans, like shut the fuck up.
Like go bitch at the Nakamikos for not pumping your bags
or whatever the fuck you're mad at.
You can't find a click in web three.
You can't find a fucking job in web three.
It's sad, we get it, you fucked up your bag.
Stop trying to bring everybody down with you.
Literally, and this is for anybody dealing
with little, little pieces of shit heathens like Aynan.
There's a lot of motherfuckers like that.
Nobody give a fuck about this account
until I hit 10,000, 15,000 followers.
2,000 followers, I was saying the same shit.
1,000 about, 3,000, 4,000, 10 likes, 20 likes, five likes,
Oh, I got 20,000, 30,000, whatever the fuck I got.
Now, I'm this, I'm that, I suck.
Cool, go suck your mother's titty.
Anyway, wow, such a good show.
It was just such a good show.
And I'm sorry guys, I definitely had a good day.
I'm about to eat, I'm a little hangry.
Everybody floods the shit out of me on the timeline.
Anyway, I'm looking at my fucking ninjas.
The fucking ninjas just minted.
This shit's in the mempool.
Where the fuck is my mint, Trevor?
Should I fuck that motherfucker too?
Yo, I don't get a single mint profit.
Nobody gives me any mints.
I don't get any whitelist, dude.
I'm not sucking enough pits out here.
Bro, is a sick fuck, bro.
And then by the way, nobody can cancel anybody.
You guys are sick in the fucking brain.
I know none of you were raised in households
where you probably didn't even realize
your own mother was racist and you say things
thinking it's okay, like I get it.
But like, bro, nobody could cancel you, bro.
Nobody could fuck, you cancel yourself.
I can't cancel you, Scott can't cancel you.
I don't give a fuck how big I get.
Nobody, that shit's bullshit.
That shit's, it's full gazzy.
It's a full gazzy, it's fake.
I think I might have to talk, you know.
I don't wanna see his core ass in my mental rage blocker.
Oh, green Jimmy the cricket suit,
wearing ass motherfucker.
Short colon, power haircut, having ass motherfucker.
Angela Davis, mustache, wearing ass motherfucker.
Richard Pryor, short cut fade,
having around the siren motherfucker.
Sammy Davis, award junior, afro haircut,
having ass motherfucker, yeah.
I think a lot of people didn't learn shit
from the last couple of years in the space.
They still falling for the hype.
Just like that, I totally agree.
And we're not even in the full, full bowl for real,
we're gonna probably hit like 35,000 Bitcoin again.
It's gonna be like a couple billions in liquidation.
It's gonna cry in the timeline, blah, blah, blah.
But like, dude, I totally agree.
We're going the same fucking route.
You started seeing everybody's,
the next one you gonna see is somebody promising.
I'm still waiting for last two years
that I've been in web three.
I got into a project earlier.
I'm not gonna say the name,
but I'm still waiting on this motherfuckers
to send me a picture of them feeding the giraffes in Africa.
Like, I'll be taking that shit personal.
Like, bro, if you ever throw an event,
I'm coming to flip tables, bro.
Like, what happened with the giraffes in Africa
that y'all was, you know, it was always a story
about something that people was gonna do.
Like, I'm like, bro, it's the same people.
Like, why y'all didn't learn?
Hype, shit, same shit with drugs,
with all these motherfuckers pumping.
Why is people still, I thought we was smarter.
It's a lot of smart, dumb people in here.
Like, very well educated.
Know they shit, but they dumb as hell
Like, they just falling for it.
Absolutely, I don't understand why.
We'll figure this out together.
I know for a fact that you guys, you know,
you guys are here and you're building some real shit.
I definitely appreciate that.
Guys, if you haven't already, get in the Discord.
Get in the Web3 exposed Discord.
Discord.gg slash Web3 exposed.
Get in the motherfucking Discord.
We'll be back live again tomorrow.
Tomorrow, we got a super, super banger guest as well.
Then I'll definitely want to pull up
MyFuckerOn and PumpyNFT company that he's a part of.
Just kidding, just fucking kidding.
Anyway, thank you for tuning in.
Thank you for liking, reposting, engaging.
Hold on, let me finish this shit.
I will say, too, we have a lot of shit coming up.
I've been teasing some stuff to some of you
on some private calls, NDAs.
You guys fucking sharing shit.
I will go after you with those NDAs.
But yo, you really want to stay close to the fire.
I don't want to hear that you didn't get the chance to be.
I'm not minting, rather, I'm not minting a PSP.
But something is absolutely coming.
And we need to double down.
We need to double down on the good shit in this space.
And that's what I'm doing.
I'm doubling down on all the good shit,
all the good resources, all the good people around me.
And we're building some fucking sick shit.
What do you want, Mr. Will?
No, I just wanted to say, if we launch an NFT project,
we can build some liquidity and maybe go out to the club or something.
Hey, baby, we have the crypto debt.
Hey, the crypto debt founder.
I want to reinvest my money into the community.
Oh, that's a very nice gesture.
Bro, two, what were you going to say?
I just looked at my wrist.
Fuck it, I'm crossing the line today.
The hay be so real, the love be fake.
Be bumping their gums and bumping my tape.
Go get out your feelings and get it you see.
I'm going to put you on my step.
They shit that you dishing.