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Web3 Gaming is taking OVER by GKOI 🎮🕹️
Recorded: Aug. 26, 2025 Duration: 1:27:39Space Recording
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you You don't really know why, but you wanna justify When there's no one at all, no really contact
And if you went to life, like it's on contract
That's bad you can stay away, motherfucker
It's just one of those days
It's all about who he said, she said bullshit
I think you better quit, that shit swear
You don't even know what a bad bitch
It's all about of those days, it's all about it, he said, she said bullshit, I think you better quit, like shit, split it, but you can even win a bad lip, it's all about it, he said, she said bullshit, I think you better quit, drop that shit, so come get it.
I feel like shit.
My suggestion is to keep your distance.
Right now, one day trust.
We've all felt like shit.
And been treated like shit.
I hear the marvelous mothers.
Don't wanna step up.
I hope you know you can change the song. I'm just gonna swallow some of those. So you don't want to step up. I hope you don't like a chainsaw.
I'll ask you to let us roll.
If my day keeps going this way or this way,
it burns up every night.
Like a chainsaw.
I'll ask you to let us roll.
If my day keeps going this way or this way,
it burns up every night.
Like a chainsaw.
I'll ask you to let us roll. If making someone that's what I'm gonna smoke, like your fucking face tonight, give me some advice, give me some advice, just give me some grace
I got your fucking place
I hope you know that you're so warm
I'm taking some more
I'm fucking taking some more
So come and get it
If I'm fucking he said he said I'm gonna do shit
I think you better quit, let your shit slip But if you're a nigga with a bad breath All right.
What up?
What up?
Good morning, everyone.
Jashaka, I'm trying to send you a co-host request.
So if you want to accept that, that'd be nice.
Yeah, thank you.
Yeah, got it.
Let's go.
All right.
Squiddy, what's up, my guy?
I'm glad you're here.
Good morning.
How's everything going?
GM, GM, man.
Excited to chop it up.
Thanks for having me.
And, dude, call me a special guest.
Means today's my special day.
Wouldn't want it any other way, man.
Excited to chat, some gaming, whatever you want, man.
Get to turn my hosting hat off, put my guest hat on,
and we'll see where it takes us, man. It should be a fun hang. Yeah, definitely. And then I'm glad Jashaka's here because he knows all the ins and outs of the
game. He's actually the game developer, the founder. He wears a lot of hats since we're
talking about hats. So I'm glad he's here. So Jashaka meets Squiddy, introducing you guys.
But yeah, Squiddy's really into games games very in the ape ecosystem with ape chain
And everything so man, I appreciate him being here. He is our special guest, but yeah just Shaka good morning. How you doing?
Doing good actually just got off a ape space a grateful show and they're talking about
It's a grateful show, and they're talking about Ape Fest in Vegas.
So it was pretty cool.
Actually, while they were talking, I was able to connect the other side
and go check out what they're building there.
It's sick, yo.
It's, like, epic.
It's huge.
So cool.
Just here working, cooking, preparing for the live stream tomorrow.
And, yeah, good day.
I was in that space too.
Grateful's my guy.
He's my favorite space host out there.
That's my guy, man.
I love his show.
Puts on a great show.
That's right.
Yeah, I recognize your picture.
I was like, oh, I was just on the space with you earlier.
Although I didn't really get to say much.
Sometimes I'll just sit in grateful spaces while I'm in a meeting.
Yeah, but listen, they got lots of alpha for sure.
Oh, yeah.
All right, well, if you make it co-host, I can bring it over.
I co-hosted you. You want to co-host G-Coy again too? Yeah, co-host I can bring it over I co-hosted you human I co-host G Koi again
too yeah you already co-host but G quest and a coast request so you could
accept it yeah nice all right cool all right well yeah we just want to talk a
little bit about the G-Coy game and everything
we're doing. We're going to have some more speakers up and we want to check in with you,
Squiddy. I want to see what you're up to, what you're doing and any alpha you guys heard on the
Ape Chain. I know we're doing a big stream tomorrow. So yeah, we're just checking in,
man. It's going to be a chill space. We're doing a giveaway too. So I'll put that up at the top.
It's going to be a chill space.
We're doing a giveaway too, so I'll put that up at the top.
It's a new community that I'm not too privy with,
but it looks like it's really taken off on Solana,
so I'll put that up at the top.
Let's say how to Stu as well too.
Stu was on the space last week.
Stu, what's up?
How you doing?
Good morning. Yo, good morning. Good morning, guys. Good morning, everyone. Let's to Stu as well, too. Stu was on the space last week. Stu, what's up? How you doing? Good morning.
Yo, good morning.
Good morning, guys.
Good morning, everyone.
Let's tune in as well.
What's today?
Tuesday?
Tuesday.
We're not even halfway through the week, man.
It feels like it's been a grind.
But you know what?
The grind is good.
Yes, the grind is good.
I just put that giveaway up at the top.
So let's go.
But, yeah, Stu, how's it going, man? What games are you playing? What's going on? What's the latest with Web3 Gaming with you? Are you working on anything? I know you're heavily involved with Abstract.
Now, today's XP day for abstract people.
So that's always a really good time to, you know, it's a good day to celebrate,
see where the gains are, get rewarded for just being a part of the community
and just, you know, sticking out for the long term.
So it's always good to see vibes are always high on Tuesday.
But yeah, dude, people have been playing games on there and, you know,
buying NFTs, buying meme coins, you know, saying, you know,
why they like all these communities
that are starting to pop up and it seems like uh we're getting a lot of organic growth and a lot of
just like solid foundation for a lot of these projects and almost like a sort of universal
guideline on how to be successful in the long term rather just than a short term, you know, little pump and dump or a short term little like, OK, let's let's have everyone look at us and be interested and then have no real game plan after, you know, after release or after a new product is put on the market or something like that.
So it's really good. It's growing well, and I'm excited to be a part of it.
Love it.
Hell yeah.
Well, I did want to give intro to Squiddy,
and since he is our special guest,
just a little bit about your gaming background
and how you got on here and crypto Twitter
and, yeah, whatever info you want to update us on.
But I just want to know what you're working on now, too, as well.
So, but yeah, man, the stage is yours, man. I just want to know what you're working on now too as well. So, but yeah,
man,
the stage is yours,
man.
I just want to,
I want to get checked in with you,
bro.
Appreciate it,
man.
Bro,
you call,
I'll come with brother.
It's been,
it's been a while.
It's been fun to,
you know,
see you keep doing your thing in the space.
Always love seeing on the timeline.
Appreciate the recent support.
My name's Squiddy.
They, they call me the community maestro. just a community guy through and through right um fell in love with
the scene or when it calls to you know call it ct back in the day this little thing called nba top
shot was coming about had my interest as a sports fan.
And yeah, was immediately hooked, being able to collect, love collecting cards, collecting moments was very fun.
And I just I saw where the space was going. I was like, this is a perfect industry for me to kind of be working in.
I'm doing what I do just as a community builder. It's something've been doing my whole life i never thought about doing it professionally so got involved ended up you know just got involved with the community became one of the community managers for mba top shot
and that led me to the gaming space i was picked up by a game studio called jam, mobile game studio based in California. The CEO is the former CEO of MySpace.
And they pivoted to gaming.
One of the larger mobile studios there.
We're building a game called Champions Ascension.
That's where we had connected because, dude, it just made sense.
You're a fighter, right?
And it was a fighting game, RIP Champions.
And, yeah, that kind of got that, you know, right place, right time,
and know the right people, build the right relationships.
And, yeah, all of a sudden we're pretty plugged in, right?
Got some great relationships all across the Web3 gaming space.
You know, people will call me an insider.
I joined another company called Superfine with my buddy Caldy. If anyone's played 2048, it's a, you know, a game you find on your phone and the numbers would double up and you would try and get to the king of mobile gaming UA. So I was able to, you know, I was the
VP of culture there with him, was able to get clients such as, you know, we got mythical games
and we got Yuga helped with the Dookie Dash launch. And speaking of mythical games, that's
where I'm at full time now, help doing things in the community side, the marketing side,
Help doing things on the community side, the marketing side, the Twitter side, right?
Just me, I do me, I chill.
It's pretty cool to be involved in three games right now.
Again, we've got Pudgy Party, which is launching at the Friday.
Pudgy Party is launching Friday, which is pretty exciting.
We just relaunched NFL Rivals for year three.
It's a totally different game mode.
You know, it's a big football guy. Pretty cool. And then FIFA Rivals. We're in the third program.
We got a BVB program going on right now. I'm loving FIFA Rivals. Probably what I'm playing
most of right now because it's just I love the gameplay and I'm just a total beast at it. Not
going to front. Scoring a ton of goals, upper nineties,
all over the place. And they're just quick games too.
They're perfect little toilet games waiting for, you know, microwave games.
Cause again, if you win, if you're up there, 92nd games,
if you go up to nothing, the game's over, which is pretty sweet.
And so, yeah, man, it's a, it's been pretty cool.
So a lot going on on the professional level.
Obviously, I'm deeply involved in the Yacht Club.
I have the longest running Web3 gaming show in the world.
We're on episode 1,988,942 or something of the like.
I'm no math major.
Where we get projects big and small come through to the space,
talk about their project, good vibes, get a lot of Ape Chain stuff.
Since Ape Chain came out about a year ago, because, you know,
just look at my profile picture, it's been the same for some time.
And I'm also launching my own PFP collection, which I'm really excited about.
It's called The Fisters.
I'll have to pin up a post there, but, yeah, very pumped about that. The Fisters are,
you know, they're punkish, they're chill. They're not going to, you know, not complaining in any
discords, right? They're just out there grinding, doing their thing. And I'm basically putting out
this project as a, it's a love letter to the space from me, yours squiddy so whether it mints out right away or it takes six months to
mint out that's not the point doesn't matter um it's gonna be a fun process there i'm giving away
a ton you're on the fist list there keith because i've known you for some time i've appreciated you
being in on the journey there and what you do for your community so giving a ton away gonna sell a
bunch from uh you know one of my favorite artists was able to collaborate with him on that so
that's coming out on the personal side and i see some homies down there again i'm a host so i can't
help myself what's up exotu i see you we got madman down there viegas i see you down there
uh we're gonna start getting some apes over to
this G-Coy here. I'm excited to hear what you got going on, man. That's a little bit
trying to keep it as short as I can when it comes to the overall journey in this space.
I'm just me, man. I value relationships. I value time spent. I just try and build some cool things with cool IP.
I go back to my original history as a gamer, right?
The first time I ever paid real money for a digital asset was in Madden.
I bought a pack, right, for five bucks.
Bought a pack.
Whatever I got in there is cool, but I didn't own that, right?
That was owned by EA.
The fact that I get to play an NFL game
right now with NFL rivals, get to buy a pack, and if I can mint an NFT, and if it's something good
that other people desire, I can go right to the marketplace and I can sell it. I can go buy certain
players that I want, and I'll have to risk getting violated in the terms of service, right? So my
kind of history as a gamer, and we haven't even talked about Pokemon,
but I'm sure that'll come up.
It's perfect, man.
Again, there was one studio I wanted to be a part of.
I see what they're building,
and I see the long-term vision.
That was mythical,
and it's got a great bunch of people here.
Thrilled that they're letting me be a part of it.
And just really, really exciting times.
Again, basically going through two full game launches in a span of a week.
And I'm exhausted.
Yo, I love that intro.
That was perfect.
Exactly what I wanted to hear.
Not too long, not too short.
It was okay?
No, it's perfect.
It was a perfect one.
Jashako, what do you have to say do you have any any comments or questions no he's he's out of here he's already
rugged to shocker you're rugged already i already scared him away that's fine yeah it's okay i i
loved it i thought it was great and what we've been building like more of gamers. We're trying
to get like connected with more gamers and more games and just the alpha with everything. Cause
we're building a game with G-Koi, which is Shaka. So that that's kind of the, one of the big reasons
I wanted you to have you on today. I knew you were really tapped in with gaming. So this is
like a perfect, perfect segue for you. You know what i mean but yeah man i want to help
you i i love that you have the fisters coming out and the things that you're doing and i want to get
tapped in with your gaming spaces i know i was on yesterday and just trying to support you man and
this is something that i i've been passionate about but it's like there wasn't that that in
and now that i have this in with gcoy to get more into gaming and kind of integrate with everyone and I do believe in web3 gaming and I think gaming in general let's just we won't even
have to say web3 gaming but gaming in general is going to do really well this next couple years
and uh yeah I think we're on like a big precipice of something big so I'm happy you're here and I
think we got Jashaka back so I wanted to see if he had any comments or questions.
Yeah, sorry about that.
Sometimes when I go outside with my phone, it just acts just rugs on me completely, even though I have signal.
So I was going to say amazing journey, man.
Amazing journey.
You've been in it from the get-go with Top Shots, man.
I mean, that's awesome.
And what you're doing with gaming is so cool, especially for us,
because we're trying to figure it out and path the way.
I mean, learn the path, right?
So, I mean, I can tell you what we're building.
It's a Street Fighter-style game.
I put something up in the Jumbotron.
It should be there, right?
So you can take a look at... this is an old build of the game um so we're building it in unreal 5 so it's pretty high quality we
should be able to get all the cool stuff um as a part of what we're building but it's going to be
a complete fight fight as your nft so the the main press the main vision is that you bring your nft
and he can fight and then we have um leagues we have tournaments and you basically win g coins um
if you fight in tournaments um and g coins are like a stable coin so it should appeal to web 2
and web 3 people but the pretty cool thing about the game is it runs in the front end in the web browser.
So unlike what Yuga's building with Pixel Streaming, it's super expensive for indie projects and so on to do something like this.
But running in the web browser means we can basically give anyone an arena, no barrier to entry. You just sign up,
connect your wallet, bring in your PFP and fight and win. So we're using this technology called
WebGPU. It's pretty cutting edge stuff, but it allows us to basically put full high quality
Unreal 5 graphics hosted in the browser with no hosting costs.
And we want to sign up as many projects as possible,
give their own arenas.
So if you can have a Bored Apes Arena,
Apes Can Fight Apes, Izuki Arena, Izuki Can Fight Izuki.
And then we'll hold kind of the cross arena tournaments,
the larger tournaments. And we have a kind of the cross arena tournaments, the larger tournaments.
And we have a season one and a season two, so we're going to grow it by seasons.
And that's kind of what we're building, you know.
Heck yeah, man.
Congratulations.
For one, first and foremost, just getting this launched and being a vision and committing to it and moving forward with it
that's hard enough in general that 95 of the people don't even get around to doing it is a
very tough industry it's a tough space man but I love the idea I know we've had some people kind of
try and go about this love the ability for communities to represent themselves
people love to fight I'm wishing you the best of luck, man.
It sounds amazing.
It sounds like you guys are really passionate about it,
and I'm wishing you all the best.
Yeah, we've been building for probably three years now,
so two years on the back end,
and then we started socials in December
and had to go figure all that out because, you know, social is actually just about as hard as building a game is, you know, getting seen, getting recognized, getting the hookups.
Battle of mindshare, baby.
It's a mindshare.
It's a mindshare world.
We're all just living in it.
Yep, it's hard.
But we're getting there and we got first builds of the game.
We started a live stream to start to connect with gamers and KOs in the space
because we kind of started out more building the lore and the vision.
So we had a big artist following.
We have a big artist following.
We bought a project called RAID.
So we kind of gave the artists a great home, so they'll continue to support us.
And the cool thing is we have access to amazing art as well to put in arenas, you know.
So if someone wants an arena, we have access to tons of artists who can dress it up, who can make it look cool.
And it's a big part of what we want to do is share this technology, right?
I mean, if you go to most discords,
they got terrible experiences for their community, you know?
But if we can give you AAA fighting experience
for your community integrated into your discord,
then that should be like, you know, next level, right?
So we want to share what we're doing what we got and if people want
to build their own stuff we can also share the process of how to build with web gpu and how to
put something in the front end so you don't have those costs or you don't have to be tied to a
platform a big opportunity there is people you know in discord giving people more things to do
there people you know in this giving people more things to do in those discords there i like your
headset yeah man that's that's that really is the alpha right if we can give everybody their own
arena for their own community um they do their own giveaways prizes and yeah i mean also our token
being a stable coin means we're not trying to sell somebody something.
You know, what we've seen with most gaming tokens and Web2 gamers is, you know, you have a project and you earn this token and by the time you're ready to crash it out, it tanks, right?
And so a lot of people feel cheated.
So doing Gcoin as a stablecoin, it means that, you know you win 10 bucks it's 10 bucks whether you cash
it out or not you can use it you can cash it out later so we already have that running in our
website um we have social quests on the website we're updating them this week um but you can win
g coins already and we are already we have swaps for an eme coin, ape coin and abstract running.
So it means anything you do with us,
you can cash it out and take it with you.
And that's also the idea behind the,
we want to drop some NFTs as well in January when we launch our full game.
And they're going to be PFPs,
but they'll also come with the 3D avatars.
And we hope that we can do a deal with Yugo where you can 3D avatars, and we hope that, you know, we can do, like, a deal with Yugo,
where you can take our avatars into other side,
because they'll be fighter avatars.
They're going to be very cool.
And let me see what else.
We got approved by Azuki to do 3D Azukis for the game.
So that means we'll have 3D apes, 3D mutants, 3D Azukis,
and going to start reaching out to communities now to
get everybody you know either their own arena or get their assets in the game as well so it's a ton
of work but um we love it we love it it's dope ton of work indeed man you know rome wasn't built in
a day the foundation is key um but no it's cool man you know we love to see just
as an ape speaking right i'd love to see as many people you know recognizing the cool stuff that's
being built on ape chain um a lot of really awesome communities that want to do a lot of
cool things so um but again there's just you know like ape fest in october like you guys you should
get out there for sure i don't know if you were if you know, like Ape Fest in October. You guys, you should get out there for sure.
I don't know if you were, you know, you were thinking about it, but that's the place to connect.
You know, you want to build on Ape Chain?
You want to take, you know, you want to go in?
Got to build these relationships, right?
Go out and meet in person.
We're going on Ape Chain about Ape Fest number four.
And this will be the one year anniversary of the chain being launched.
So, like, definitely recommend if it's easy to get to Vegas. and this will be the one-year anniversary of the chain being launched um so like
definitely recommend if it's easy to get to vegas i know i don't know keith you're still a cali dude
um i live here in vegas i got my ticket i'm ready i'm going i only come to vegas i'm in the vegas
chat i'm already ready uh fuck yeah dude it's gonna be so much fun it's just like you can't put
i i can't even explain it right just being around all these builders and all these people who love JPEGs just as much as you do and who've been through it, right? It's just like, it's just so cool. It's just so cool. What's up, StuDog?
cool what's up stew dog hey uh quick question okay uh because i'm in california as well i don't know
the dates of eight fest i'd love to kind of learn a little bit more when that is because i don't
mind making that trip as well um obviously we all seem to have similar interests when it comes to
being in the space which is cool um but yeah i i never mind making that trip because i'm i'm
literally one state over like like you, Squiddy.
Oh, yeah.
So I'm actually East Coast.
I'm actually East Coast.
I'm not Cali.
Damn.
I've been a Miami boy for the last few years with a year in Vietnam in between.
But that's neither here nor there.
You can't beat it, right?
Eight Fest, you tell me to go to Hong Kong, I'll go to Hong Kong.
You tell me to go to Lisbon last year, all right, we'll be in Lisbon.
We'll build in Lisbon.
We'll do the Creator House in Lisbon.
I emceed almost 10 events at the Creator House that we did before
with a bunch of different creators.
Again, you put a microphone in my hands and then fun things can happen.
Yeah, I noticed, Squiddy.
I've noticed.
Yeah, guys, we have to say hi to Doug.
He'll tear us down.
I've been waiting for eight years to speak on his Twitter space.
I finally have.
And I've been badgering Doug through text, telling him that he's bad.
He's begged me to come on his space for years.
I finally do.
And I just am here.
Okay, here's Doug.
Good morning, Doug.
This is Doug Hype, everyone.
He's a big deal.
Go ahead and give him a follow.
But, Doug, how's it going?
Are you going to Ape Fest?
I'm not going to Ape Fest.
I'm just here to give everyone hugs and kisses and more hugs and kisses.
Hi, Squiddy.
We haven't talked in a long time.
I hope you're doing well.
I'm glad that you're working with Mythical Games. I still fifa rivals and stuff nice man i'm glad i hope you're
doing well i hope you're doing well yeah i'm doing super well it's just in vegas for rare evo which
was super awesome vegas is so much fun um i did not win the rare evo uh classic poker tournament
which i'm very sad about but are you guys going to be doing any like
poker tournaments or any like crazy biggest sell events at ape fest so there's going to be one
giant event which is the ape fest thing it's friday the 24th there is a poker tournament
uh they made like you know crypto jeweler they did like a special one-of-one world series bracelet
type thing along with taking the cash so there's gonna do like a anyone can enter tournament ends when it's the last eight
standing so there's one big poker tournament and then just you know i i'm coining the term whatever
happens vegas will end up on the timeline it ain't gonna be me though listen as a vegas veteran
you know we we we appreciate the we appreciate the the laws of the land out there
in vegas but it's funny how it's happening there it's actually a perfect place to do so but you
know with an nft that thrives on content and everything yeah expect to see a lot of content
from the place from the place where it's supposed to stay i've been to ape events before it's always
a nice time i know how the apes move and stuff.
I know what you guys will be up to.
You guys will be like going to all the clubs and stuff and like, you know, throwing down hard.
I'm sure Keith can keep up, though.
I'm going to be at home with my puppy, though.
He needs a lot of attention.
We go to the dog park like eight hours a day and hike mountains together.
So, like, you know what I mean?
I just make money and passively in crypto while I just touch grass all day but i'll i'm sure i'll be back in vegas soon
well done that's your key that keith that's your key to talk about vegas and what the hell you've
been up to because i haven't seen you yeah i was at rare evo i saw everyone but you i got a k-low bell i was just gonna say i'm like
doug i feel like you missed keith literally i was trying to text you where are you even adam
charles no you didn't text me back i can fucking take a screenshot you're lying right now okay but
also keith how do you miss doug he's like the tallest guy in crypto with a big furry jacket
in las vegas it's because we were never in crypto with a big furry jacket in Las Vegas.
It's because we were never in the same place at the same time.
For some reason, the unit, me and Keith are like bestest buddies.
Keith is so awesome.
And I'm the whole time I'm there going like, where is Keith?
And then I would run into Paisan or whoever, or J Chains when he's wasted and all this stuff.
And the whole time I'm just like, you guys are just so lame and boring and wasted.
I need to find Keith. And then, you know, that's just, it's like I'm finding are just so lame and boring and wasted. I need to find Keith.
And then, you know, that's just, it's like finding a leprechaun.
It's just hard to do.
Damn.
Damn.
Well, I was there.
I saw some people.
I said, what up?
I did my rounds.
I didn't make it to the actual, the awards because I didn't even know I was supposed to go.
I was helping host the
awards okay and i could have just told them to give you one i would have been like just give
keith an award they did best bro who's the best bro to just bro with they gave me an award the
best k will fighter of the year and i wasn't even there no one told me i won till the next day that's
right you actually did one award like outright like that's amazing i did not win an award outright. That's amazing. I did not win an award. I was nominated, but I stole someone else's award.
The Wolves Dow won Best Gaming KOL, and I just went up and stole the award,
and now I'm holding it.
I have it in my cake safe.
Wait, who won the Best Gaming KOL?
It was the Wolves Dow.
It was the whole Dow.
But I guess specifically it's Peyton because he runs the Wolves Dow.
So they're like, Doug, come up and accept the award for the Wolves Dow.
Because it's a long story.
I was supposed to help co-host the event and all this stuff.
But it was a cool event.
It was up in the old, what is it?
Whatever art experience thing.
Anyways, it was a beautiful, wonderful place.
Catering all this stuff.
The word show was awesome. If you watch it back on whatever the stream is you'll see me accepting
the word for best gaming kol and giving a shout to the wolf style because they've had some really
amazing events they show out at gdc every year and do some like really big awesome things um and
going to those type of events where you're going to have very high quality networking, man, it actually led me like GDC WolfDAO events to be able to like meet a lot of people to
connect to RareEvo and get them a bunch of more people coming in like virtuals and a
bunch of different like AVAX people that I hadn't met before in person and really cool
stuff.
So everyone really has benefited greatly from the WolfDAO events.
It's just really high quality stuff because they're very focused and goal-oriented with building the gaming space and really making high-quality connections.
So they totally deserve it, which means I want it.
So I stole the belt.
I literally can see it right now.
It's across the room from me.
I did a lot of photo shoots with the belt.
I mean, if Peyton was there, he could have just gotten it himself.
But, you know, he's a busy guy.
So now I get to troll them, do photo shoots, eat cake off of the belt.
I'll just, like, put cake on the belt and eat it off the belt.
Probably sleep with it, all those things.
It's a lot of fun.
But Adam Charles did do a great job of putting on a great event.
And I think next year it will be even better.
And I'm guessing it might be at rare evo again but yeah shout out to to west and rain and all the guys from rare evo
they put on a great conference um great side events too it's really high quality stuff i love
that stuff and um i also i did and i also i felt some of that vibe hanging out at some of the ape
events before too i really like high quality networking where you don't feel like you have to run around
to 8 million side events.
You can just concentrate on a few events a day
and really get to know people better
and just feel more like you're doing what you wanna do.
Like you're in a place you wanna be with.
Like I wanna be at the craps table
with the little sappies throwing down
and just hanging out and smoking cigars.
You know what I mean?
Like it feels more like a retreat with my friends than it does like you know some business thing yeah you're right amen
uh doug since we got you on here we got you going what's your what's your favorite game right now
in web 3 what's your favorite non-web 3 game and then what's your favorite web 3 game
so i when it comes to like just just what my favorite Web3 game is,
just to play for fun, I would probably say it's off the grid.
I do play it very often, almost every day.
It's just a really fun shooter.
I like the mobility where you can run around fast
and fly around with your jetpacks and stuff.
When I play other first-person shooters now,
they all feel so sluggish because they don't have that mobility.
So that's kind of a really fun innovation that they've done.
I got into football.fun, which is, like, the old soccer, like, fantasy football style thing where you can buy shares of players.
I know a lot of people last week got crazy gains off that.
I think, who was it?
think who was it like og from um from games.gg uh i think he flipped two grand into like 10 grand
Like, OG from Games.gg.
or something in like two days it was just crazy so like they blend speculation with actual like
football and like you know premier league and all the different leagues in europe and stuff which
is fun for me to learn about and everything and just be part of something that like connects
people around the world um and i do still play FIFA rivals on my phone.
I think I'm like diamond or whatever the,
I think I'm diamond level on that.
So cause I probably won like 200 games or something.
So I play that still.
And I'm also just trying games out all the time.
And just trying them out.
Like I just played wilder world.
They're super early alpha,
which was kind of fun.
Cause I just want to be able to try and sample everything and try to help out like i just played wilder world they're super um early alpha which was kind of fun um because i
just want to be able to try and sample everything and try to help people learn help people learn
about what games are out there um pirate nation where they they flipped over to um abstract um
and they had it's more of like a gamble five thing but it's like really actually a pretty fun kind of
like almost card game style um thing um you know there's just a lot of like these smaller,
like fun, quick little games popping up in Web3 Gaming.
But there's a lot of big games like Star Atlas
has got a big thing happening now
and they're actually launching their own chain,
which is huge.
So like, you know,
it's not just about the individual game itself.
It's also about all the other things around it,
like launching your own L1 and doing airdrops and all that stuff. People are in Web3 because they want incentive. They want something
to be excited about other than just the game itself, which involves crypto and everything.
And we're all kind of learning together and growing to what kind of works and what people
are into. Of course, not financial advice or anything, but that seems to be where the direction goes because Web3 people are here
because they do kind of like speculation.
That's kind of what draws them to the Web3 arena.
Yeah, I can agree with that.
That's true.
Need a little incentivization.
I get it.
But we haven't even said I to Melina.
Melina's on the team with us.
She's the only reason I'm here, Keith, is because she's so nice to me.
Good.
I'm glad you came because of her.
I love Doug.
Yeah, Doug and I go way back.
Hey, Keith.
What's up?
I'm happy to be here.
I'm sorry I ran a little late.
It was ruggedy-doo here on my end. No, happy'm happy to be here. I'm sorry I ran a little late. It was a ruggedy do here on my end.
No, happy to have Squiddy here. I heard you guys yesterday. I'm excited to...
Yeah, Squiddy's our special guest, so everyone give him a follow right now.
Everyone needs to give him a follow. First off, you're not following Squiddy, like what the hell
are you doing? No, it's so interesting to hear his story and how he came about.
And, you know, like even, you know, the way we are building out the game here at G-Coy,
it's so fun to remember these moments.
And I always, you know, like I try to write these things down with dates because I think
in the next like two, three years, we're going to forget like these hardships that, you know, Jashaka was talking about, okay, we're building and we're building
out the community and we're doing this and, and everything Squiddy was talking about. And I just,
you know, just want to remind everyone in the audience. Um, it's really all about the journey,
right? Like it's really all about this journey that we're on. And so, yeah, just, uh, I'm just
happy to be here. Happy to be, uh, you know, you know, obviously repping here, our our team, but also just gaming in general.
Like Doug is such a good, funny creator when it comes to gaming and creating content when it comes to games.
So I just love having him here.
I'm still thinking he does.
He keeps on saying, like, come hang out with us. And
I'm like, I'm like, I can't because like, I'm, I feel insecure. You're always like, I'm gaming.
You're like, look, you're like, I'm busy. I'm actually busy. I'm busy. I'm old. I am busy,
but also deep down, like, um, Melina, you're one of the few people around that just has so much
charisma that it's just like deafening. You know what I mean? I'm like, well, how am I,
how am I going to like hang out in the same space as Molina
and then be able to handle my own self?
You know what I mean?
And then you have KO kid who's like the nicest guy ever.
So like my whole, my whole gimmick is that I'm super nice and charismatic.
And now I'm like, oh, what do now?
How am I going to handle these guys?
Like, I don't even know what to do with my hands.
This guy.
I love him.
You're funny, dude.
No, your hands, you can hand wherever you want to.
It might be funny, Keith, but it is true.
You know what I mean?
Like, if you think about people you actually really want to be friends with that, like, say Web3 didn't exist.
Say you're on Mars or something, right?
And you're just like hey man i only got 20
minutes a day to hang out with my friends who are you gonna hang out with you know what i mean
like keith and melina are by far two people you would want to have on your list you'd be like yeah
dude i want to hang out with them they are so fun and just cool people to be around like you guys
both do so many different things and i love content creators that just make me fucking laugh and make me feel good.
When I'm at Karate Combat and Keith's just there with his big-ass fucking shitting grin,
and he looks like he could either hug you or just throw you across the pit,
like, that's just so much fun, right?
And Melina, when you're interviewing people and you just have that big smile and charisma on you,
even when you're doing stuff when you're doing, like, the reality show thing, I was like, you're way too talented.
You know what I mean?
So like, it's just cool and fun to be around that.
And I miss it when I'm not here on Spaces with you guys.
You know what I mean?
And also everyone else here.
I mean, Squiddy, Anon, Jack down there, you know, Walt Diz.
Like there are so many friends and cool people here.
Even Phoenix Crypto. And like, you know,alt diz like there are so many friends and cool people here even even phoenix crypto and like you know and that's for real like we love this space because of the people here and
the fun excitement we have my and this is the reason i have like problems with my serotonin
levels you know what i mean because you guys just pop it off too hard
i can risen the hell out of the whole crowd here.
Everyone's going to have to wipe off their face right now.
We're getting rizzed on.
All right, I'll take it though, Doug.
I'll take it from you especially.
But let's say Hanan.
I almost said Hanan.
Hanan to Anan.
Let's say hi to Anan.
Wow, I think I just had a seizure.
Hey, at least you said Anan and not Anan like half the space still does. But that's a problem for another day.
So appreciate you having me up.
Doug is so, like, has so much energy and enthusiasm and just, like, passion for what he does here every day.
When I first met him, I thought he was a plant.
thought he was a plant straight up you did straight up it was an industry plant
You did.
Straight off the thought that he was an industry plant.
and like we had some differences because of it because i'm like dude like what the fuck
you doing here like he literally texted me and he's like are you a plant and i was like what
he's like oh yeah people and i like basically grew up together i'm like oh like clearly this
dude is like in on it or something if you don't notice his pfp right now you see the little pixels there
with his uh his pink robe um that's you know his derivative on a knock amigo and like that's where
we met was through knock amigos and then keith like keith's just been showing up like if there's
anyone that shows up more than me for nfts it's keith like every day you know he's just just in his in his groove just running spaces
you know bringing the community together shows up at the event super just like genuine humble
nice guy easy to talk to like easy to approach which you know he's a fucking mma fighter so i
wasn't necessarily expecting that and then uh i also see Squiddy up here uh we don't get to
connect as much since like I'm not as active or you know not an active like board ape anymore but
like when our paths cross like it's always something of value right like it's always
something that like you know that he's talking about it or promoting it or, you know, sharing it because he genuinely believes in it,
not just because he's trying to, like, make a bag off of his community.
So, no, a lot of great people up here.
As far as the Web3 gaming conversation, it got a lot of momentum before meme coins took off.
I know that, like, when I was starting to explore the trenches of solana and like maybe even
before pump fun was uh was introduced i had friends like in cyber kongs and they were like yo
you don't have any beam you don't have any imx you don't have any like of these you know these
alts that are all about gaming and i was like uh no i'm not aware really of any of that.
And then, unfortunately, right, like Solana kind of stole the show and a lot of like artificial noise being pumped in as if you were like at a football stadium and the crowd wasn't loud enough. So they get the crowd, you know, like like fueled and motivated but it's all being like
pumped in artificially and i think that we're at the tail end of that um especially since the token
and just kind of i i don't want to say pumps like completely fumbled but i'm not you know i'm not
like invested in it or you know uh i'm not looking at that moving forward right like i think that gaming
is getting ready to kind of have its coming out party again it sort of coincides with nfts maybe
it's even a little before nfts um there's some you know hybrid kind of like conversation to have
there um but i do think that we're so overdue for a catalyst. We are so overdue for something that like breaks through the mold, the noise and like actually is able to attract a new group of people.
lot of people that came in with uh you know the rose tinted sunglasses and they had uh before they
had dollar signs in their eyes they they just were like very open to you know exploration discovery
meeting new people sharing like interests and i feel like we lost a lot of that um and and right
the space is very noisy there's a lot of distractions there's a lot of that. And, and right, the space is very noisy. There's a lot of distractions.
There's a lot of inequalities with, you know, the algorithm engagement and what you are like
constantly being kind of bombarded with. And like, you know, you have to, you kind of have to search
it out and, and like go out of your way to find those little niches, those little pockets of like
those that are still believe in something,
right. That are still authentic, you know, like in pursuit of, of, you know,
developing something or, or, you know,
standing behind a community that, you know, is,
is excited about something like gaming. And so I'm,
I'm happy that like a lot of it is sort of, you know, kind of like unraveling and sort of like figuring, you know, it's figuring itself out.
It's going through this, call it, you know, maturation evolution process like we saw with NFTs last cycle and how they're being approached differently this cycle, right?
NFTs last cycle and how they're being approached differently this cycle, right?
That the same is going to happen as far as quote unquote meme coins, the trenches, a
lot of consolidation, a lot of, you know, kind of back to the drawing board.
And while that's happening, it encourages, it allows for, you know, other things to be
that much more at the center of attention, is where i think gaming and nfts
are are likely to be that thing and that there's going to be a few standout projects or games that
really kind of like accelerate that um willingness to to want to direct our attention there right
um so i don't know much about gcoy specifically probably the first time that i'm
hearing about it but um you know i played a lot of tekken uh when i was younger i thought that was
a cool type of you know game and it's not like my usual like aesthetic but what like i'm definitely
more into sports games and stuff like that um but i think that like what this space and, and Doug mentioned it with, uh, on the
grid, off the grid, I always forget which it is that you need to kind of like obfuscate
and, and disguise the whole, like, Oh my God, it's a crypto game.
Nobody cares that it's a crypto game.
Like they need to be slapped across the face with the rewards and the incentives organically, naturally, and have that kind of aha moment. You can't force them
into it and be like, yo, you're going to make money off this. It's a crypto game. No, you have
to deliver a gaming experience that they can relate to, that it's already a familiar type of,
you know, process concept to them, game game style whatever um and so i think that
again uh there's going to definitely be those that have a better grasp on that that like don't
lead with crypto let the rails kind of like you know be be be in, but don't have to be emphasized.
And as far as, like, my own personal, I know Doug was saying, like, his favorite games and stuff.
I am.
I'm an Ethereum maxi, but I'm also a Nock Amigos maxi at this point,
where they introduced that second collection.
It's called Cloaks.
The metadata is incredible as far as the the detail the sophistication you know different
power levels agility wisdom uh strength and then you have like amulets different weapons we don't
know could this stuff be detachable and like its own sort of uh assets like for each one of these
items that'd be amazing um but you know we've also been waiting
almost two years uh since they even introduced uh this this collection it'll be two years next
at the end of next month and so um you know there i get it gaming development takes a long time
um it takes a lot of money to money to do something that's sustainable and
that's going to move the needle, so to speak. And I'm hopeful. I'm really hopeful. I think that
there might be a pretty powerful machine behind the curtain. And I wouldn't be surprised if that
is one of the standouts that can uh either partner with a web to uh type
of you know already familiar uh company because that's one strategy right if you're not going
completely indie independent you know to the market um but i do think that like when it comes
to ownership and we see it with CS go and we saw it with,
you know,
Fortnite skins a little bit,
there already is starting to be that feeling out process of people being
more open-minded to NFTs as a,
as a gaming asset.
And I think if we don't call them NFTs,
like we might get a lot further with people just because there's such a
stigma,
such,
you know
negative kind of like stereotype against nfts um but yeah i'm kind of rambling i just want to share
kind of like how skins skins weren't called nfts but those were like the first kind of nfts in
games that kind of like you know came over to nfts full nft. Definitely. The last thing I'll say...
They're digital assets.
Sorry, go ahead.
Real quick, last thing I'll say.
On my bed, Squiddy.
The last thing I'll say is that
we need someone who actually knows
how to introduce a sync.
If you are going to have a token for your game,
you can't approach it like a meme coin.
And I feel uh there's a
lot of teams that for one reason or another either they're ignorant they're um they're uh
um malicious or they like just straight up have not grasped that concept and they don't have you
know the right kind of like advisors or whatever but this is the biggest problem that i
see is that you want to create rewards you want people to have motivation to interact with your
ecosystem with your game well if if you're too um in how do i say this? It's delicate. It really is.
It's such a fragile kind of like process of how do you introduce a token that's not just going to get traded into the ground because the majority of the people that were able to be early to it don't actually care about your game.
Yeah.
So what about just making a stable coin that's connected
yes yes yes yes and i think that so you are kind of like speaking my language like you're reading
my mind as far as specifically why i'm so invested in knock amigos is i feel part of why they may
have waited so long and why they called the original collection you know unique crypto
investors which was something that was like taboo, right? Like we never wanted to use the word investment
or investor with NFTs previously. I think they have actually been kind of falling in line with
the Genius Act and the digital clarity and like that there is a plan for, uh, I, obviously I can't
confirm it. Um, so like NFA, but I think that that is a really for uh i obviously i can't confirm it um so like nfa but i think that that is a
really smart way of approaching things is a stable coin and being able to slow drip something let
people mine something based off their gameplay their performance you can you can make it a lot
more uh versatile where you can have leaderboards but you can also have like similar to a punk six,
five to nine with the memes, right.
Have a, he has total days held.
And the longer that you are say, quote unquote,
staking something, the more rewards you are going to accrue,
the further your character or whatever is going to evolve and develop.
And like, that is the future of, you know the crypto gaming sector in my opinion
yeah that's perfect just go ahead yes i was gonna say you know when when we decided to
to kind of pivot the project into gaming so first of all my my background is I'm a 3D software developer.
I've been a 3D software developer for maybe 15 years.
I have an open source project called Jashaka, and I love gaming.
So when the project started to mature and we built the lore and we said, yo, we can
actually bring something cool to the space if we turn this into a game, but a game using technology where anyone can access it.
So that was the first thing for us, right?
This would have to run in the browser.
It would have to be using technology that anybody could run their own arena,
not streaming at streaming costs for the other way of doing this is like,
you know, a thousand bucks a day.
For us, there's no cost.
Anybody can access it, zero barrier to entry.
But also like a real game, right?
G coins as a stable coin.
We figured this is why Web2 people and, you know, I know a lot of Web2 gamers
and they don't like crypto because of the fact that they win rewards that go to zero.
So we said, first of all, you know accessible make it you know also kick ass so like
you know our game is not um low low quality it's full unreal 5 6 you know triple a quality um and
that's what we're striving for that's all right also but then also something that anyone can play
and we said you know what we could do an morpg but those things are so hard to play right you get
lost people shoot in your back you know you take spend a half your time spinning around you don't
know where you're going but street fighter um and tech and this style of gameplay is something
anyone can play right i mean you can get good at it but you can also just be lucky and if you have
a bad player you hit the keys long enough you're're going to win, right? So this was kind of what motivated us to create a game that's easy to play,
that can have amazing graphics, right?
And people go, wow, this is AAA.
And that's not trying to build up a meme coin in the back.
But I'd love to ask you, why do you think Web2 people don't like Web3, Web2 gamers?
Do you think it's just the whole scammy side of it, the meme coins?
Or, you know, is it my last company was a crypto trading platform and we spent so much time fighting against the bad karma that banks used to spread, you know?
And I figure that most of the big gaming um ecosystems they don't want
things to be nfts right i mean think of how much money fortnite makes selling dance moves and
outfits and costumes and if you could take it with you they would lose so much money so i figure
there's also you know a lot of um a lot of work done to discredit web3 gaming to make gamers not want to do it
um so just curious these are inevitable the future is inevitable inevitable but big games they think
about how much money they would have hemorrhage if you could take your character from fortnite
into gta right they would lose hundreds of millions of dollars so i don't think they want it
you know and big companies you know they lobby they they do things you know to encourage gamers
not to support it but i'm i'm wondering if you if there's any other alpha and why web 2 gamers
don't like web 3. no you nailed it um so squiddy knows this about me, Doug, Maka. They know that I'm brutally honest.
I'm hypercritical of this space, and I don't give compliments easily.
Yeah, but I don't give compliments easily, right?
I really like your philosophy on just how you want to approach tokenization of this game.
I think a stablecoin is highly underrated.
I think it's more fair.
I think it is more built towards sustainability, longevity,
and, you know, kind of an evolving product, you know,
underlying to support it.
But to answer your question,
it really is that unless you, like,
hardcore gatekeep to, like, you you know beta testers or something or um you know like you have uh and even an nft doesn't work it really because maybe a soulbound
um because people are a little bit more emotionally attached on why they would actually
invest in a soulbound knowing they can't trade it and sell out of it.
They're really expecting value beyond just being a part of that community with the soulbound.
But as far as there's really like it plagues this entire industry and it's greed.
And it's greed. It's greed and a disconnect, if you will, or a division when it comes to incentives and motivations.
The one thing that I think a lot of people are naive about, like when they go to build something here,
is just assuming that others are going to have good intentions and that they're not going to try to find an edge,
find a loophole, find any way that they can take advantage of the hard work of that, you know,
that team and, and, you know, their community that is, you know, quote unquote, like pumping
the bags of the people that just don't, don't give a shit. Right. and so you have to find ethical ways to you know kind of like
um incentivize and reward those that you are pretty confident are are serious about
the development of the whole project but you also you really do. Like gatekeeping, I know it's controversial.
Gatekeeping is one of the most significant like variables in this entire industry.
I don't care if you're a coin.
I don't care if you're a introducing, then you're going to get
that much further as far as like knowing what the true floor is, what the bottom is, and maybe it's
even higher than your expectations, but it should never be significantly lower than your expectations,
right? And I think that's where a lot of people go
sideways and eventually that it just you know there's too much cell pressure for them to even
demonstrate value um and it's frustrating because you got a lot of people here that like
they're trying to build authentically they're trying to build for the future generations that are going to come on chain, but they're at the mercy of a lot of jaded people that are really just looking, you know, to take advantage of others' hard work and grift and, you know, quite frankly, like, just take advantage of um you know just people that have good
intentions so it's something that i've thought about a lot i have like on the content creator
side i'm sitting on blueprints because that's my lane is marketing and content of like where
where i think i could add the most value and introduce some mechanics and and strategies as to how can
we uplift and empower the right people but quite frankly gatekeep the fuck out of the people that
are not deserving 100 dude 100 yeah plus you see so many projects um just trying to chill a meme coin right it kind of
gets overpowering you know so but the gatekeepers you know like in the matrix they hold all the
keys right they do hold the keys they do hold the market share and gaming is a huge market
it's hard to break in um which is why we wanted to start also with
nft arena we said look everybody said you got to go after web 2 you got if you're not doing web 2
web 2 is what you need to be building for so we figured you know let's build a foundation that
web 2 is going to say hey wow this actually is pretty cool because i can actually take my earnings
with me i can take my assets with me um but deliver something to the web3 community right you know i think it was spotify
spotify started you know when spotify started they tried because i was involved in a music project
um doing something similar to spotify and you know spotify said we can't afford to license
music for the whole world so
we'll just do it for Sweden and we'll own Sweden and we'll make sure everybody in Sweden has access
to music and then we'll grow the business so we figure you know this is what we want to do as
well the NFT arena is kind of like season one of our game you know you come you bring your NFT you
can fight as your NFT you know bring your ape into the game fight as your NFT, you know, bring your ape into the game, fight as your ape.
And, you know, give back as much as we can to the Web3 communities, give them arenas, let them earn, you know, NFTs from tournaments.
You know, we give up we're going to give a large percentage of any revenue we get from selling in game assets or, you know, game passes.
Those will go into fight to win and fight to earn.
So we want to make sure that the more money that flows in,
it flows back out to the communities that support us.
So our strategy is fight to earn, fight to win.
Fight to earn basically means you can earn your G coin, stable coins.
We need to set the definitive price of a G coin and then cash it out. So we just added support for we have support right now. Let me see for what's that big gaming coin when I'm pulling a blank here. We have support for anemic coin. We have support for ape coin and we just added support for.
We have support for Apecoin and we just added support for Arbitrum because a lot of gamers are in Arbitrum.
So that means you can swap your Gcoins at stablecoin rates to ARB if you're in the Arbitrum ecosystem.
So that's fight to earn and then fight to win is tournament.
So we want to give back NFTs. So if we have an Az is tournament so we want to give back nfts so if
we have an azuki tournament we want to give away an og azuki if we have an ape chain tournament
we're going to give away a mutant or you know give give big world prizes to people not little things
um support us and and we support you that's kind of our strategy sorry my dog's dripping on
support you that's kind of our strategy sorry my dog's dripping on
no it's all good and then i just want to remind everyone we do have that giveaway up at the top
so make sure you're following everyone that's mentioned in the tweet i repinned to the top
so this is a new it's called is it cody house this is my first time hearing about this project and
i'm supposed to be so into nfts but jishaka he definitely he's
definitely really in the trenches with nfts he's finding some cool stuff that i've never even heard
of that is trending that is doing well so jishaka do you know about this collection a little bit
before we do this giveaway we're working with the magic eden team um because we're looking at using
their launch pad and um the guys in Magic Eden said,
hey, this is a cool new project. It's a cool team. It's a young team. They're very exciting.
So I, you know, experimenting with Magic Eden's launchpad. I went, I signed up, I bought a few.
And their Discord is amazing. Their community is so fun. They're the kind of community that I would love to build in our Discord moving ahead.
And I'd love to give those guys an arena so that their characters can fight.
But just being in the trenches, looking at what's happening,
looking at what's coming down the pipeline and supporting other communities.
They have AI bots, but really cool ai bot inside their
community that's kind of like the the founder character and he keeps saying really good ai
bot with a good personality it's an amazing personality if you're in their discord and you
say anything like it's kind of like the founders but he pops up and goes and says weird and crazy
shit it's not like some boring but i mean it's so cool. I just love what those guys are doing.
But we do actually have another giveaway as well.
We're giving away.
I'll post it up through G-Coy.
It's a other deed.
So that giveaway, it runs until Friday.
Let me post it up, hit it up,
because other deeds are quite expensive right now.
And if you have an other deed it gives you
some premium access to other side and what the apes are building let me just try and find it
and i'll stick it up so that's kind of the second giveaway but yeah those guys they're just like
pure art and pure coolness that's why i said yo let's let's give them some exposure. Also, I think they minted. They did their expose the collection the day before the markets went to hell.
So they definitely need some love.
Here, I just posted up the other deed as well.
So you can check that out as well.
So we got two giveaways going.
But yeah, the codies are cool and you know i think
true to what you guys are saying web3 is about community it's about building cool community
right it's about getting people who will believe in the future of what you're doing it's not about
shilling meme coins and trying to get rich or you know selling a collection and rugging it
um i think it's really about building future and
future comes through community from what i'm learning
i think one thing i'm uh observing is um there were projects last cycle that were like either
were like either tied to already like a well-known gaming company brand like web2 thing or um they
promised right that they were going to build the next greatest game uh and they would fundraise off but there was really no um i don't know there was no sort of thought as to why should people
actually trust you right like why should people actually believe that you're going to follow
through and build the game once you've already secured everyone's money um and then there would
be i'm watching it literally play out right now with a project
that's been around for multiple years. I'm not going to say which I don't need to like,
you know, throw shade, but it's very frustrating that the way the marketing is approached is
it's a lot of wait and see. It's a lot of gaslighting. It's a lot of, you know, um,
It's a lot of, you know, like just cultish type of drink the Kool-Aid, you know, how do I say it?
Like, I don't know.
You kind of get the point.
What I'm getting at is that it's great when people actually demonstrate something that gets people excited, right?
And gives them a reason to actually have some faith that there's,
there's going to be execution that they,
they are capable of following through and delivering on their promises.
And so it becomes this, like, I'm actually seeing,
like I'm analyzing the space in real time, right?
Like from week to week.
And I'm noticing that someone just bought something.
If you,
I love that noise.
If you under promise too much,
people are just going to kind of tune you out and assume that it's nothing of
value,
nothing of significant interest and they'll be distracted by other things.
But then if you, and quite frankly, then you deliver and no one's around to hear it or to see it, and it's really frustrating, right?
The opposite end of that spectrum, of course, is you promise way too much, have no, like, quote-unquote beta demo, anything that shows you really are on that path.
And then you turn into something like the project that I'm thinking,
or the one I'll actually say, because it's a meme at this point, NBA top shot,
NBA top shot, uh, saturates their ecosystem and then says, no, no, no,
we're going to, we, we got a game coming.
We got a mobile game coming that
it's going to, it's going to change everything. All of this is going to make sense. We promise.
Trust me, bro. Fast forward to 2025. This was 2021, by the way, right? They're quote unquote,
not out of beta. They've pivoted, you know, five different times and they've lost, they've lost the trust of a lot of people that put a lot of money into it because I just, you have to have some sort of awareness that your community is not a guarantee.
Your community is only as valuable to you as long as like they're still paying attention and actually showing interest
and so you always need to kind of have a gauge on like are you are you being um convincing are are
you being uh um uh uh what's the word or consistent yeah are you being consistent as far as just like showing that
like yeah we're we're still taking this as seriously as you are and i see a lot of teams
that are like no no we got to build in silence like we're not ready and then they they sort of
just you know fall to the wayside and and people get bored. And I'm seeing that, you know, especially as the years go by,
I'm seeing that happen with a lot of projects that they made a lot of promises.
It's taking a lot longer than anticipated to get anywhere significant.
And people are just sort of tuning it out and, you know,
like looking for what's next from other things,
not even from, you know, being patient to wait for that thing.
So I think the takeaway is that this space
is full of a million distractions.
It is hard to stand out
and that you really have to be cognizant of that,
that you are competing at all times
in very unconventional, unorthodox ways for the attention of this space where that's not like that's not how companies are traditionally built.
you know a hundred other games when they're going to mark when they're like not uh i'm sorry when
they're when they're still building right when they're still trying to secure investors or secure
whatever funding or or you know uh marketing um you know partnerships and things like that
it's not as like cutthroat as it is here and i think a lot of people when they start are just not prepared for
that how cutthroat it really is yeah it's true the competition is insane you know but i think
that's also happening in the real world manufacturing anything you put up online
it gets duped it gets copied um yeah it's definitely not the easy. You want to pick this giveaway, or do you guys want to pick it?
I was going to play a song and pick it.
Yeah.
Let's ask Melina to pick it.
All right, Melina, you pick it.
Good thing I didn't tell.
I had a guy already ready I was going to pick, but good thing I didn't tell him.
I'm not going to say his name.
I'm just here picking up my Nakamigo cloak.
What?
Let's go. I love that.
Dude, I need to get one, too. I need a support.
I put notis on for him because I fucking love this thesis so much.
It got me a little pumped up. I was like,
let's go. So I was like,
shit, I got to tap back in, put noties on
for him. All notifications.
I'll say this.
Find you. It's going to sound
really egotistical, but it's okay.
I'm doing it in jest.
Find you and Anon for your community. Seriously.
So many people think I'm the founder of Knock Amigos, that I am, you know, being paid by the team, that I'm an insider, that I'm pulling the strings.
And I'm like, no, I just actually believe in something so intensely as a difference maker, like as, you know, a game changer in this space that i will go down with that ship um i've
you know full disclaimer it's all on chain i've invested over a million dollars into this uh
project at this point and uh i think there's gonna come a point soon where it makes a lot
more sense than it does now that's the dedication you know i'm dedicated 100 dude my open source software i wrote that
shit for like 12 years of writing open source software and that's a totally different labor
of just building software trying to get people to install it download it get it on linux distributions
and the only reward is people using it.
You know, most open source, it's not about money, it's about passion.
So putting that passion into this, you know, I love what we're doing.
I love the arenas, I love the technology.
I spent half my time in Unreal.
I animate apes for apes for free because I love it, you know, and that's the passion I think
that will help. Didn't make millions off of G-Shocker, but I got three million downloads,
so I feel like I did make a difference. I did help the whole VR industry move,
so, you know, if I can bring that over here to gaming. And, you know, I really strongly believe that gaming in the browser is going to change,
not just our industry, but gaming as a whole.
Because gaming in the browser is goodbye to wall gardens.
It's goodbye to platforms, right?
If you can play a game in the browser, then you don't need to be behind PlayStation's gated community.
You don't need to be behind any gated community
right it just opens up the gaming to everyone you know so that's what we're doing
there's something to be said for like the machiavellis of the world too right like people
that yeah people have been talking about the other side now for over three years.
And a lot of them have since, you know, quote unquote, moved on and they're in the trenches or they're doing this, they're doing that.
And Machiavelli, you know, every week or multiple times a week is showing up to, you know, bring people together to talk about the other side and the future of the other side and doing activations in the other side. And have I ever, I don't have a desktop right now. So my
laptop would probably get fried if I tried to go on the other side. But like, so I haven't
personally been in there. I've watched the videos and stuff. And like, do I, i quote unquote get it right this second no um however that's the whole point
right is that the people that are going to come out on top primarily unless you get really fucking
lucky are the ones that have conviction when it's not the popular thing and so me with knock amigos
machiavelli with you know uh board apes other side, like, we're not the popular trend or the popular play or trade right now. But, you know, I think I can speak for him that like, we've both been in the trenches, we've both made, you know, some profits there and, you know, like, been willing to kind of follow the liquidity, so to speak, like Like it's just a natural beast within this space that if things are very
scarce and very kind of depleted elsewhere, then yeah, you have to pivot,
you have to adapt and you have to find other ways to, you know,
stay afloat and survive and make money.
Especially if this like is a full-time type of thing for you.
And so, yeah, anytime I would make money in the trenches,
people would be shocked that like,
I would not be then putting even more size
into some of these quote-unquote runners
or, you know, like, you know, blue chip memes.
And I'm like, no,'m i'm gonna take it back into
ethereum nfts where i i think they'll still be around in you know three years five years and
i don't have to worry about is it going to zero next month or next week right um and again do i do I look do I look uh like the the winner or you know do I look like you know some like
guru expert right this second probably not definitely missed out on some things definitely
paper-handed you know some things round-tripped some things and continued to um transition or
or transfer it all back to you you know, my conviction plays.
But if I'm right, just like if Machiavelli is right, you know, we won't even have to
say, ha ha, I told you so.
The whole space knows that this is what we pride ourselves on already right and so if it if and when it comes to fruition it the the the the
the narrative you know the the energy is is going to happen a lot more naturally a lot more um
it's just going to have a lot more kind of uh just call it meaning right it's going to have a lot more
meaning to us because like we we didn't get lucky.
We fucking believed in something
and saw it through when it wasn't
what everyone was talking about.
And now it is what everyone is talking about.
And I think that's going to happen for both of us
for different reasons.
And just because like, at the end of the day,
people will ultimately support the best tech.
Like if someone actually innovates in this space, sorry,
last thing I'll say, if someone actually innovates in this space
and shows some originality and shows something that really is cutting edge
and next level, it is going to be one of those occurrences
that catches the space by storm.
And next thing you know, everyone wants a piece of it totally and i gotta say machiavelli he's a machine yo um he on board i
sold like all my other deeds i sold my quota to get my my board ape and then i said i'm just gonna
chill with that and he onboarded me back into other deeds today on this space.
I signed up for OtherSide, got in there, started playing around, changed my avatar.
So, yeah, man, that passion, it goes a long way to making people believe as well.
I mean, it's amazing, that passion.
All right, four-minute warning.
We've got to get off here in four minutes because I've got to go work out again.
All right.
We have a four minute warning.
Try and get that other deed.
Hey, okay. I have a quick question.
Because what you guys have been saying has been awesome.
We've talked about, obviously, a little bit of gatekeeping and then also bringing to the masses for a lot of game specifics. Now, I kind of want to, I have a question. At what point do we feel that,
like, can we feel that projects would grow too fast to where then it's almost like, not,
not organic or inorganic, but to where it's like project scale too fast to where they almost get burnt out so quick
do you think that is something that
Some of these projects need to also take into consideration when building a community when building a you know a
Collection or like something like that
Think you can never grow too fast, but you can yeah Yeah, I was like, it's kind of like you can never get rich too quick.
You can lose focus. You can go launch a cryptocurrency and then, you know, you're no longer an NFT collection.
No, you're all about your crypto.
Or you can take your community and say, we're going to change everything to AI now.
And, you know, we don't want humans anymore or you know you see that happen even with
platforms I think like um like Meta's their social media thing for Instagram I mean it's like
but they're growing at like 200 million people but they're all bots and they even said we're
going to create all these AI bots so now you can talk to bots and we're going to put them all on
threads so you know you can go on threads and meet 100 million bots right so I think you can you can never grow too
fast but you can lose vision that would be my opinion yeah I agree it's kind of like well they
do say a lot of bad things about people winning the lottery but I feel like at this point in my
life if I won 50 million dollars I feel like I would be cool.
I would invest smartly.
I wouldn't go crazy.
I've already been through my crazy days.
So I guess if you give it to the right person, they could do well.
I would give everybody in my town a red Corvette and party.
I'd throw a 96-hour binger and invite every single person i knew and be like yo we're not stopping
i would actually really do something really egotistical but i don't really want to say it
i'm not gonna mention it we're already gonna go over on the space today but machiavelli i appreciate
you here our special guest today guys was squiddy so everyone give him a follow really appreciate
him coming by and yeah no this was a great space.
We got a lot of alpha and I feel
like it balanced me out because
sometimes you really need to be honest
with yourself about a lot of different things. So it gave us a lot
to think about. So I think we should
actually re-listen to Space Me and Rishaka
again and go over some things. But
no, it was a lot of alpha for sure. But
I do want to give away this giveaway.
So Melina, are you going to pick it?
Do you want to play a song?
I sent you the guy.
I don't check my DMs when I'm on spaces, girl.
Well, I texted it to you.
But I can share.
Yeah, tell me.
I hope he's still in here.
He's not in here.
He's done.
I don't see him,
and I'm kind of rugging.
No, don't do this to me.
I think the person left.
This is what happened.
Oh, boy.
I don't know what to say about this.
I don't know either,
because he was there.
All right.
Well, I guess we'll make an exception because I just don't give a fuck.
And I got to go work out.
And I don't want to take another 10 minutes to find somebody else.
I would say totally give it to Anon for all that.
That's what I was going to say.
And ask him to post it up.
You know he won't sell it.
Yeah, he won't sell it. He'll keep it.
And he can check out that Cody community
because they are
lit. They are so cool.
That's just my two cents, yo.
Well, that's done, man.
Let's go. Let's do it.
Congrats.
What do you have to say for yourself?
This is your moment where you can give thanks?
Oh, yeah, no.
I'm definitely appreciative.
Not what I was expecting today or why I came in here.
I really do just enjoy talking about Web3.
I've been passionate about it ever since I discovered it at the start of 21.
I want to be a voice that is a little bit more relatable.
I have a large following, but I don't, I haven't forgotten what it was like, you know, my first day or when I had like under 200 followers.
And so I think that it kind of lends its hand to being a little bit more, um, a little bit more, I don't know what the
right word would be, right?
Like I can, I can play the influencer role and interact with all of them and understand
what they're thinking, but I can also like come hang out with like real people, right?
And be able to kind of get a feel for that vibe in that community as well.
kind of get a feel for that vibe in that community as well and i think that it's um it's a special
kind of you know role to play to kind of toe that line um because there's unfortunate
inequalities that just naturally exist here that we can't ignore but the more i can like educate
and and kind of make others aware that like it's even a variable and something
that they should be mindful of. I,
I think it gets us all further ahead. Right.
And it should hopefully kind of empower the right people to kind of take that
next sort of that next step, that next leap of faith.
And that's what we need. Yeah.
We need people who aren't drinking the Kool-Aid
who can help us.
A lot of so many project founders
are drinking the Kool-Aid so badly.
We need people who will tell us,
yo, that's not the way to do it.
Anyway, awesome space, Keith, as always.
Gaming is taking over. Let's go. No, thank you, Keith. As always, gaming is taking over.
Let's go.
No, thank you, Tshaka.
You had a lot of good information that you gave out today
and a lot of clarification.
It was perfect.
So, yeah, let's go.
All right.
I'm going to play this, and then I'm ending this.
I need to get to my workout.
Appreciate it.
Always working out, Keith.
Remember the space is in an hour and a half
for Squid Grow for the silent swap.
Love Squid Grow. I'll be there. No, no, no. No, no, no.
You got me running, going out of my life.
You got me thinking about how it's in my time.
Going out.
No, no, no, no, no.
I'm so good.
That's it. Thank you.
